1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:04,760 Speaker 1: First Date follow Up powered by the Advocates Injury Attorneys 2 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:08,080 Speaker 1: online at advocuslaw dot com. Maya is on the phone 3 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:10,240 Speaker 1: today for a first date follow up, and she's getting 4 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:12,719 Speaker 1: ghosted by a guy named Aaron. So in a second 5 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:14,240 Speaker 1: we're going to call him and see fields house, why 6 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:16,279 Speaker 1: is ghostinger? And maybe get her another date if she 7 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 1: still wants one. But first, Maya, how long has it 8 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:19,959 Speaker 1: been since you heard from Aaron? 9 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 2: It's been a month. 10 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:25,600 Speaker 1: Oh, I know, a long time. Why do you want 11 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 1: to get a hold of him if it's been a 12 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 1: whole month? 13 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 2: Well, I just really it felt like we had a 14 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:34,839 Speaker 2: really good connection. You know. The conversation was really effortless, 15 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:36,519 Speaker 2: and we had a lot in common, and he just 16 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 2: felt really special. And you know, it's kind of hard 17 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 2: to find that some nowadays, you know, and like's hard 18 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:44,159 Speaker 2: to meet people and it's hard to really feel that 19 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:48,159 Speaker 2: genuine connection. So I thought it was special and I 20 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 2: wish she's thinking about him. 21 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 1: Have you tried to reach out to him in this time? 22 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 2: I have. I reached out to him three times, but 23 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 2: I haven't heard to you. 24 00:00:57,520 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 1: What do you say when you reach out? 25 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 2: Well, first time, it was like, oh, I had a 26 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 2: great time, it was it was really great getting to 27 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 2: know you, like to see you again. And then the 28 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 2: second time it was pretty much the same, like oh, 29 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 2: just you know, just reach out again, you know, just 30 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 2: seeing how you're doing. And then the third time I 31 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 2: was kind of concerned for his well being because I 32 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:18,679 Speaker 2: was like, well, maybe something happened to him, you. 33 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:22,320 Speaker 3: Know, and I was thing, it's okay, but I still haven't. 34 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 4: Heard anything, and why don't you tell us about the date? 35 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:29,119 Speaker 1: How did all of that go? 36 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:33,040 Speaker 2: It was great. We had this really cool jazz bar. 37 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 2: It was a really romantic atmosphere, and we both were 38 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 2: both really into music, so you know, we were listening 39 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 2: to music and talking about the music, and then we 40 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 2: just really clicked. We shoul had a huge dreams. We 41 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 2: had this really nice little boost, so it was really 42 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 2: easy to talk and that's about our work of traveling 43 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 2: and our where we want to go, like what kind 44 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 2: of places we want to go to, and we talked 45 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 2: about uh, you know, our pets and our passions and 46 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 2: it was really just great. 47 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:08,959 Speaker 3: And he was really funny. He was making the laugh 48 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:11,839 Speaker 3: and it just kind of felt like we'd known each 49 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:12,919 Speaker 3: other for years, you. 50 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 2: Know, and we did, uh, we did share a kids 51 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 2: at the end of the night. 52 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 3: It's asy to you, but I was it was going 53 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 3: so well so you know. 54 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 1: You sound so giddy right now just reliving it. 55 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:30,119 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I think I could just really felt for him, 56 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 5: you know, and then and it was a really good kiss. 57 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:38,919 Speaker 1: Do you know like he felt too. 58 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 3: I think so. 59 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:44,919 Speaker 2: I mean, I I think he I think he did, 60 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:47,639 Speaker 2: you know, could be in his eyes and and and 61 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 2: he and he said, you know, I had a really 62 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 2: great time and I'd like to see you again and 63 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:56,520 Speaker 2: just and just really know just the way that uh, 64 00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:59,359 Speaker 2: the kiss, well, you know it was you know, it 65 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:03,080 Speaker 2: started out he had tentative and then got you know, 66 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:06,519 Speaker 2: we got kind of into it and and and it 67 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 2: just felt so you know, so so natural. You just 68 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 2: kind of figure out the angles and everything, and. 69 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 1: It just why do you think you're getting ghosted? 70 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 2: Well, okay, this is embarrassing, but you know, he was really. 71 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 6: Funny, and he was you know, you know, I'm just 72 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 6: like taking jokes the whole night and cracking me up. 73 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 6: I love a guy with some of humor, you know, 74 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:30,359 Speaker 6: And he made this one really funny joke and I 75 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 6: laughed so hard, like some smack came out of myself. 76 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 2: I don't know if you saw it. I he was 77 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 2: kind of looking away, but it's kind of It was 78 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 2: dark in the clubs, so maybe he didn't see it 79 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 2: and I walked into us real quick. But uh, maybe 80 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:46,839 Speaker 2: he did. 81 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 3: Maybe he was like, oh, like sorts. 82 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 1: A little embarrassing. I mean, I wouldn't go somebody for that, 83 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 1: you know. I just take it as a compliment that 84 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 1: I made them laugh so hard that they couldn't control 85 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 1: their snot Oh that's so cute. All right, Well, we'll 86 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 1: see if we can figure it out. We'll play a 87 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 1: song come back, and then call him and see if 88 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 1: he'll tell us why he is ghosting you and maybe 89 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 1: get you another date. Okay, oh, thank you, I appreciate it. 90 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:20,480 Speaker 1: Pla us on come back and get your first day 91 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:29,839 Speaker 1: follow up the next Right in the middle of today's 92 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:31,919 Speaker 1: first date follow up, if you're just joining us, Maya 93 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 1: is on the phone and she's getting ghosted by a 94 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 1: dude named Aaron. So we're about to call him and 95 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 1: see if he'll tell us why is ghosting her and 96 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:39,839 Speaker 1: maybe get her another date. But first, Maya, why don't 97 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 1: you refresh everybody's memory about your date with Erin. 98 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, well it. 99 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 2: Was really great. We met up at this really nice 100 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:50,279 Speaker 2: jazz bar. We heard some great music, we had a booth, 101 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 2: was a really nice intimate date, and we had a 102 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 2: nice conversation and he was really funny, and we really 103 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 2: hit it off, being a lot in common, and you 104 00:04:58,200 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 2: didn't have a really nice kids at the end of 105 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 2: the day. And I'll love to see him again. And 106 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 2: I even texted him the shoot time and I just 107 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:07,159 Speaker 2: never heard anything back. And it's been about a month. 108 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:09,839 Speaker 1: Okay, you ready for us to call him? 109 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, a little nervous then already. 110 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 1: And you think the reason you're getting ghosted is because 111 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 1: you blew us, not rocket. I'm saying that. She just 112 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 1: said a little came out with big different All Right, 113 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 1: here we go. I'm gonna dolla this one number. Hello, Hi, 114 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 1: I speak to Aaron. Please. 115 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:38,839 Speaker 2: This is Aaron. 116 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 1: Aaron, Hey man, how are you? My name is Jewbell. 117 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 1: I'm calling from a radio show. It's called the Jebel Show. Hi, Aeron, 118 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 1: I'm Nina. Also on the show. Hey, I'm Victoria. How 119 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:49,279 Speaker 1: many people live this three? 120 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:51,040 Speaker 3: Okay? 121 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:52,839 Speaker 1: Okay, and it's a radio show. I don't know if 122 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:56,159 Speaker 1: you heard that part. I did okay's have you ever 123 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 1: listened to the show before? 124 00:05:58,080 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 3: Uh? 125 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 2: Sometimes on my way to work? 126 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:02,679 Speaker 1: Okay, cool? Have you ever heard of first date follow 127 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:03,159 Speaker 1: up before? 128 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 2: Yeah? 129 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:09,159 Speaker 1: I guess Okay, that's good. Well, guess what erin? 130 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 2: I'm on it. 131 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 1: You are now the star of one. 132 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 3: Okay. 133 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 1: Do you have any idea who would email us about you? 134 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 7: I might have an idea. 135 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 1: I don't really date many people. Okay, who do you 136 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 1: think it is? 137 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 7: Probably Maya? 138 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:31,480 Speaker 1: Guess what erin? You're absolutely correct. My emailed us and 139 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 1: told us about your date, and she wants to know 140 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 1: why your ghost would you tell us? 141 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 7: I'm sure it's kind of crazy timing. So I have 142 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:46,480 Speaker 7: real bad anxiety and I'm kind of working through it 143 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 7: with my therapist, and we actually in my last session 144 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 7: just talked about Maya, And you know, I feel bad 145 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 7: for not reaching out and possibly hurting her feelings. But I, 146 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 7: you know, I try to, I find myself figure up 147 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 7: the phone to call her or you know, respond to 148 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:05,160 Speaker 7: her text messages, but I just. 149 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 3: I just can't. 150 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 4: Okay, So your therapist is helping you with that, Like, 151 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 4: do you think that you're going to reach out to her? 152 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 2: Like? 153 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 1: Was that part of the plan? 154 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 2: That was it. 155 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 7: I just haven't been able to you know, forsh that 156 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 7: call button. 157 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 1: Oh, they just can't call her. 158 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just I don't know what to say. 159 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 7: And now it's been about a month and it. 160 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 1: Just makes things a little worse. 161 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 7: And now I'm on the radio. 162 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 4: Maybe it's good timing though, because maybe this will put 163 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:39,680 Speaker 4: you in a position to not have to worry about 164 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 4: what to say because she wants to know why you're 165 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 4: not calling. 166 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 1: I guess that helps anxiety or what. 167 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 2: Yeah? 168 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 7: Yeah, I have fear of rejection, I guess is what. 169 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:52,559 Speaker 2: My therapists said. 170 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 3: Okay, Like I said, I. 171 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 1: Don't really date much, so when I do date Aaron, 172 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 1: have you ever heard of the term cognitive behavior therapy? 173 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 1: Uh no, okay, cool, Well I'm going to tell you 174 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 1: what it is. So Cognitive behavioral therapy is when if 175 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 1: you have like a fear of something, they put you 176 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 1: in that situation so that you can see that it 177 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 1: goes well and then you can start to relieve that fear. 178 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 1: So like if you're scared of jumping into water, does 179 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 1: take you and jumping into water and you'll be okay, 180 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 1: and then you'll be like, Okay, it's not that scary. 181 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 2: That sounds terrifying. 182 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 1: And the reason that I bring that up to explain 183 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:33,839 Speaker 1: that to you is Maya's actually on the phone listening 184 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 1: and wants to talk to you. 185 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 8: So okay, hey, good to hear your sorry. 186 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:55,439 Speaker 2: I have, you know, well hearing your reason it, I mean, 187 00:08:56,880 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 2: it makes sense, and it doesn't make me relieve because 188 00:08:59,280 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 2: I thought. 189 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 3: That you just lost interests and or you. 190 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 2: Just didn't want to see me, or I'm theres to myself. 191 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:10,200 Speaker 3: No, but it's more of the opposite. 192 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 7: Yeah, I have you know, I care about you, or 193 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 7: I have strong feelings and I'm not sure how to 194 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 7: go through it. 195 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 2: Well, well, I care about you too, and I understand, 196 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 2: but just you know, it did really hurt my feelings 197 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 2: when I never heard anything from you, and then, I know, 198 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 2: anxiety very hard to work through, you know. I sometimes 199 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:43,559 Speaker 2: I think it can be an excuse, you know, not 200 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 2: to tell your true feelings. 201 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. 202 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 4: I just. 203 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 7: I don't want to hurt anybody's feelings or my own. 204 00:09:55,880 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 3: U So I just yeah, So so is it an you? 205 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 7: I mean no, No, I really liked you. I really 206 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 7: like you, and I'd like to, you know, hang out. 207 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 3: But it's it's tough. Oh, I understand, and I don't 208 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:15,680 Speaker 3: want to do too and be awkward. 209 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:19,839 Speaker 2: I didn't think you were awkward at all when we 210 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 2: had our date. I thought it was great and the 211 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 2: conversation was great, and you were really charming and funny 212 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 2: and and i'd like to see you again. And I'm 213 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 2: willing to work with you, you know, and the understanding. 214 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 3: Just seeing how much I was sweating. 215 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:37,839 Speaker 1: To go out with Mia again. We'll pay for it. Yeah, absolutely, 216 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 1: you look at that. That's exciting. You got a second date, Maya, 217 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 1: and we here to Aaron's fear of rejection. Isn't that amazing? 218 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 3: Maybe I should pay you guys. 219 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 2: Dole's first Date follow up