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Speaker 1: You see Julian Edelman on Fox NFL Kickoff Sundays and

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Speaker 1: the Fall. He's got his podcast games with names that

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Speaker 1: he is joining us. So we haven't had you on

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Speaker 1: since Aaron Rodgers joined the Steeters. Aaron yesterday saying it's

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Speaker 1: probably it twenty years. I've done my thing. So first

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Speaker 1: of all, your take on Aaron joining a defensive culture that,

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Speaker 1: by the way, won ten games last year and was

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Speaker 1: fairly a mnemic post Thanksgiving on offense? How's he gonna do?

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Speaker 3: I think they're going to be a solid football team,

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Speaker 3: as they always are. I think they'll be a little

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Speaker 3: better than last year. Do I think they're gonna win

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Speaker 3: a Super Bowl? No? I love Mike Tomlin, I love

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Speaker 3: the culture, I love the defense. I like Arthur Smith.

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Speaker 3: But how fast can they get that machine going? Aaron

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Speaker 3: doesn't know his teammates at all yet, once again, he's

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Speaker 3: going into another year behind.

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Speaker 4: When he did that.

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Speaker 3: Last time they start, they didn't have a good first

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Speaker 3: eight weeks, that's right, you know, and then he turned

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Speaker 3: it on a then because he started learning his teammates.

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Speaker 3: So I like the move. It's the best thing for

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Speaker 3: the Steelers right now. And Aaron he's going to a

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Speaker 3: team that's not terrible. If he wants to continue his

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Speaker 3: football career, that's awesome.

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Speaker 4: He gets an opportunity to do it.

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Speaker 3: One of the pillars of the National Football League.

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Speaker 4: But do I think they're gonna win a Super Bowl?

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 4: I don't.

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Speaker 3: I think they'll be a little better. They're twenty ninth

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Speaker 4: Last year.

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Speaker 3: They didn't address it at all. They have the same

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Speaker 3: offensive line. They get rid of one of their running

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Speaker 3: backs that was pretty productive, but that kind of didn't

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Speaker 3: in did well. How are they going to use that

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Speaker 4: I don't think so.

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Speaker 1: You know, think about this with Aaron When did he

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Speaker 1: have his most success when he worked with the receivers

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Speaker 1: he knew Jordy Nelson, Greg Jennings. You know those two

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Speaker 1: took years. When the Packers' receivers got young. At the

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Speaker 1: funny like Tom Brady had to build trust Tom at

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Speaker 1: work after about twelve games in Tampa. But Chris god

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Speaker 4: It was also a COVID year.

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Speaker 3: Mind you, they didn't get to prepare the way they

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Speaker 3: the same sentence because I didn't know it was Tom.

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Speaker 4: Brady's last year.

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Speaker 3: When it was last year, he didn't want the distraction

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Speaker 3: I we know it's his last year.

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Speaker 4: And you know we've we've heard that before.

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Speaker 1: It's interesting, and I saw this with Eli Manning at

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I remember when I told my dad

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Speaker 4: You have to be able to you have to be

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you have to be on that edge of reckless

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Speaker 3: And the day where you have to think about going

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Speaker 3: So you know, when you get older, you don't want

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Speaker 3: it does take a toll, you know what.

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Speaker 4: I think it's going to be an exciting season.

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Speaker 3: I mean they're bringing one of the greatest quarterbacks of

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Speaker 3: see it. It's a great move. It's great for the league.

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Speaker 3: But do I think they're going to a super Bowl?

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Speaker 1: So? You know Mike Frabel very well, right right, He's

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Speaker 1: I have picked I pick a team every year to

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Speaker 1: So Mangenie told me last week that Mike Rabel's the

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Speaker 3: He's the rare case of being a tough guy that's

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Speaker 4: It's weird, you know. He he he can off for you.

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Speaker 3: With his presence, but he can also offer you with

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Speaker 3: like when Mangini said he could recall anything. He could recall,

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Speaker 3: Like we'd be at the Kentucky Derby and he'd pull

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Speaker 4: Bring it out.

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's what I think is so special about

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Speaker 3: I'm excited to see what they do in New England.

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Speaker 3: I got to go to their camp a couple of

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Speaker 1: What jumped out to you?

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Speaker 4: What jumped out to me? Drake made the question.

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Speaker 3: He asked me the hunger that he had, and I

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Speaker 1: So John was joking the other day Sean Payton took

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Speaker 1: John said, didn't feel very Bellicheckian. I remember when McVeigh

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Speaker 1: How does it land for you?

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Speaker 4: I think it's a cool opportunity.

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Speaker 3: Some of my favorite times as a Patriot is when

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Speaker 3: and then as a team we would go work in

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Speaker 4: Like those are unifying team. You go to the zoo,

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Speaker 3: Well, regardless you guys are, your family's there or whatever.

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Speaker 3: But you guys are all together and you're working together.

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Speaker 3: There's no you're not all going home. You're all going

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Speaker 4: That's great. I don't have a problem with that at all.

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Speaker 3: As long as the time that they used to get

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Speaker 4: That's a that's.

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Speaker 3: Evolution to like workplace people. You know that you got

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Speaker 3: thought that was a cool thing that McVeigh did. Uh,

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Speaker 3: or practice that they did was very productive with their time.

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Speaker 3: And that's that's the difference. You know, you look at

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Speaker 3: other teams that don't practice their guys. Cincinnati Bengals, Zach

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Speaker 3: Sean McVay, right right, Okay, not everyone's Bill Belichick.

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Speaker 3: Everyone's got their rhyme and reason of how they get

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Speaker 3: So I'm worried about my San Francisco forty nine ers.

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Speaker 4: What did they do?

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Speaker 3: What did the They hit on Pooka Aku on the

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Speaker 1: You know, John's a former scout. I think sometimes the

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Speaker 4: You got to build it through the draft, and.

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Speaker 1: You need cheap labor. At some point, you have to

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Speaker 1: You know, it's funny because McIntyre has been on this.

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Speaker 3: I think I had a fumble. Rob had a fumble.

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Speaker 4: Can we can we do that?

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Speaker 3: Like? We watched that game the whole rest of my

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Speaker 1: Dude, Peyton hillis playing that game.

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Speaker 4: They had the rocket.

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Speaker 3: You know what I remember about the Cleveland game, Bright

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Speaker 1: I'm like rain Man on the little windy. That's Cleveland.

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Speaker 4: It's Cleveland.

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Speaker 6: You go.

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Speaker 8: It was.

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Speaker 1: It was a not a good flight home.

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Speaker 3: Wasn't a good time anytime you played them again after that.

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Speaker 6: It's the hurt.

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Speaker 1: was sensational. But now we go to John Middle cop

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Speaker 1: with the news.

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Speaker 4: Turn on the news.

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Speaker 2: This is the Herdline News, curt In.

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Speaker 7: The NFL, Colin, were Kyler Murray, who we talked about earlier,

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Speaker 7: and the Cardinals were to look for their first winning

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Speaker 7: season since twenty twenty one after just missing out last

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Speaker 7: year at eight and nine. I had Arizona off Kyler

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Speaker 7: in our predictions earlier. Yeah, but Trey McBride has some

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Speaker 7: other ideas, saying that he believes that he and Kyler

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Speaker 7: can form the same partnership as Mahomes and Kelsey. I

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Speaker 7: don't know about that, Colin, What do you think?

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Speaker 1: Well, I think McBride's great, awesome player. I think he's

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Speaker 1: an awesome player. It's my buddy drafted him, Steve Kaime.

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Speaker 1: I think he's a tremendous player. I actually think from

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Speaker 1: Connor to McBride to Harrison to Kyler Murray, I think

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Speaker 1: their on lines Okay, I think offensively they're really interesting,

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Speaker 1: and I think this year they kind of went back

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Speaker 1: to defense in the draft. So I like their personnel,

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Speaker 1: Like I feel like they're a little like Seattle. They

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Speaker 1: could beat anybody in the league. Anybody in the league.

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Speaker 1: With Arizona Kyler's getting protection, they can beat anybody. I

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Speaker 1: just don't know if they can put together twelve wins.

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Speaker 1: Kyler gets banged up. Kyler can get you know, sometimes moody,

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Speaker 1: but their talent. There's eight or nine guys on this roster.

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Speaker 1: I think there's insational play. Well.

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Speaker 7: He deserves credit because he's clearly mature from what was

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Speaker 7: a couple of years ago. I know Jonathan Gannon living

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Speaker 7: in that area that they're higher on him as the guy,

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Speaker 7: the leader, But as a player, he can be frustrated because,

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Speaker 7: like you said, they can beat anyone.

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Speaker 2: In an individual game.

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Speaker 7: You could put Himunday Night Football against the Bills and

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Speaker 7: Kyler could outplay Josh no question. Then the next week

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Speaker 7: he could play the Jags and throw FO one hundred

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Speaker 7: and fifty yards and lose by twenty.

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Speaker 1: They are a maddening team.

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Speaker 7: So I do think he's fascinating coming into this year

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Speaker 7: because the talent it OSes off the screen and it

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Speaker 7: has since. I don't think he lost the game in

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Speaker 7: high school. I think he went forty five and zero

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Speaker 7: his three years in high school. So he's a twelfth

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Speaker 7: highest paid quarterback. The team has finished either last or

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Speaker 7: second to last, and five of the last six years.

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Speaker 7: So beside that one year with Kingsbury, remember and they

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Speaker 7: fell apart at the end of that season, it has

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Speaker 7: not gone well from a wins and losses standpoint. I

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Speaker 7: just this kind of feels a little make or break

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Speaker 7: just because he makes a lot of money and he

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Speaker 7: still would have value to pivot.

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Speaker 4: Plus the quarterback draft is good.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but this is not a franchise that is. I mean,

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Speaker 1: if you told me take the Packers and take Arizona,

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Speaker 1: take the best seven players, I mean, I'd say McBride

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Speaker 1: is arguably better than anybody on the Packers.

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Speaker 4: Arizona's got good players.

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Speaker 1: No, I mean, and they've got high end Marvin.

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Speaker 7: Harrison Junior is the guy everyone would take. They just

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Speaker 7: signed Sweat from the Eagles. I think they drafted in

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Speaker 7: the second round Will Johnson, remember he kind of fell

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Speaker 7: in the draft.

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Speaker 1: I mean, their roster's not bad, not bad at all.

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Speaker 1: The Baker, yeah, Boot is great.

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Speaker 7: So we'll stick with the NFL to Miami where Tua

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Speaker 7: he's entering in his sixth season and he'll look to

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Speaker 7: stay healthy enough. Right He just played in eleven games

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Speaker 7: last season. Prior to joining Miami in twenty twenty two,

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Speaker 7: the now retired to Ron Armstead played nine seasons with

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Speaker 7: New Orleans and had an up close look at Drew Brees.

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Speaker 7: In an interview on The Rich Eisen Show, Armstead talked

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Speaker 7: about the similarities between Tua and Breeze.

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Speaker 8: Anticipation, the accuracy, time and of throws, the ability to

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Speaker 8: knock a wing off a fly repeatedly. Those those guys

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Speaker 8: throw darts, they don't throw to areas. They are very precise.

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Speaker 8: That's an elite talent. It's elite, elite trait very few

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Speaker 8: people possess.

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Speaker 2: He's one of them, and Drew Brees another.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't disagree that he is his comp He's

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Speaker 1: a left handed Drew Brees. Now Breeze Again, it's unfair

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Speaker 1: because Breeze is an al timer. I've always liked I've

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Speaker 1: always liked to when he has stable protection and when

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Speaker 1: the weather's good, like he at home, I've always felt

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Speaker 1: different home and away with him. I always feel like

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Speaker 1: the elements. And I've said this about brock Purty. If

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Speaker 1: it gets cold and windy and wet, I don't think

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Speaker 1: about Purtty the same. That's exactly how I feel about Tua.

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Speaker 1: But if the conditions are moderate to good and he

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Speaker 1: has ample protection toa throws a great.

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Speaker 7: Ball, well we say the same about Jared Goff. But

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Speaker 7: Jared Goff got to play in LA and now in

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Speaker 7: Detroit in a dome. You know, Drew Brees got to

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Speaker 7: play in a dome. Tua while he plays in Miami.

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Speaker 7: They play the Bills r they play in the AFC,

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Speaker 7: and they make the playoffs.

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Speaker 4: They played the Chiefs.

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Speaker 7: It is a difficult proposition when you don't have a

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Speaker 7: great arm and you're in the AFC because of the

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Speaker 7: teams that you're going to have to play in the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: Also, and we have to be fair. They have not

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Speaker 1: done a good job in the old line and they're

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Speaker 1: not ready for Armstead to move off. You cross your fingers.

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Speaker 1: It's I think there are certain players. If you have

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Speaker 1: two as a quarterback, you have to have a good backup,

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Speaker 1: a stable backup. They've not been good at backup quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: And I also think you've got to have a top

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Speaker 1: seven to eight to nine offensive line. You've got to

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Speaker 1: protect to it. He is smaller, he doesn't have a

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Speaker 1: big arm. He needs the extra half second of protection.

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Speaker 7: I think we all respect the guy in his toughness.

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Speaker 7: I do think we have to be critical when he's

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Speaker 7: played better teams in big spots, he's kind of crumbled.

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Speaker 7: He has not played good football against the better competition

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Speaker 7: in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: And I think Mike McDaniel is clever. I think he's smart,

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Speaker 1: but sometimes I feel the organization lacks steak and has

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Speaker 1: a lot of sizzle.

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Speaker 7: We could argue that you're just not winning in Miami

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Speaker 7: given them modern day economics of football and how much

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Speaker 7: stuff's going on, how rich these guys are, it's kind

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Speaker 7: of been a disaster for a long time there. Yeah,

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Speaker 7: now to the WNBA, where your girl, Kayln Clark has

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Speaker 7: been having a tough last three games she has, including

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Speaker 7: last night where she was limited to a season low

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Speaker 7: six points went over six from three in the grand

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Speaker 7: scheme of things. It didn't matter though, with the Fever

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Speaker 7: winning the game and her teammate Lexi Hall believes there's

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Speaker 7: nothing to worry about amid Clark's shooting woes.

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Speaker 1: She'll be fine.

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Speaker 7: I don't think for a word we're not worried Bama.

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Speaker 1: She's a great shooter. This is a great player.

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Speaker 3: This happens to every team, Leverick player, every great player.

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Speaker 8: She'll be fine.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think we forget that. Steph Curry and especially

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Speaker 1: Clay Thompson. You know you hear about hitting slumps. Steph

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Speaker 1: Curry had shooting slumps. You were there, You're a Warriors guy.

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Speaker 7: Happens all the time. I mean Steph and Clay, who

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Speaker 7: are by far the greatest shooting backcourt in the history

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Speaker 7: of the league. You could watch him on an individual

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Speaker 7: game basis, especially Steph.

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Speaker 4: Little late in his career play later in his career.

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Speaker 2: You have bad weeks, a bad month.

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Speaker 1: Clay had bad series. There was an Oklahoma City series

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Speaker 1: years ago where he had like a great game.

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Speaker 2: Game six.

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Speaker 1: He was a hare season, save their season. But if

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Speaker 1: I recall he struggled in the series.

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Speaker 7: Listen, did Ted Williams get a base hit every time

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Speaker 7: he went up to that Tony Gwinn? Did Steph Curry

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Speaker 7: made every three point shot he's ever attempted?

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Speaker 4: Of course not.

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Speaker 7: I also think there is you know, she's coming off

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Speaker 7: an injury. The road home splits a little interesting this year.

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Speaker 7: I would not sell any Kayln clarkstock.

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Speaker 6: Moving forward, we agree.

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Speaker 2: John Middlecoff with the News, Well that's the news, and

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Speaker 2: thanks for stopping by the herd line.

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Speaker 1: So tonight is the NBA Draft. I don't We had

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Speaker 1: Reck Petito on for twenty minutes. He was tremendous. Today.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you're ever going to have a

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Speaker 1: great draft again, because it is such a projection draft.

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Speaker 1: So many of the players, whether international or domestic, there's

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Speaker 1: just a lot of young guys. It's not your guessing,

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Speaker 1: but there's a lot of projection. I don't feel that

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Speaker 1: in the NFL draft. I mean, quarterback is always going

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Speaker 1: to be hard. He needs the right coach and right

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Speaker 1: sports system. But in the NFL, you with on fifty

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Speaker 1: percent of your picks and you have three and four

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Speaker 1: years of tape. You know, in college, you may get

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Speaker 1: thirty games of tape for a kid that plays at Kentucky,

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Speaker 1: and he may only go against an NBA player in

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Speaker 1: six of those thirty games. That's all the tape you have.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's the interview, it's the combine in Chicago.

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Speaker 1: You know, you're just projecting. So I don't know if

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Speaker 1: this is a great draft. I think Cooper Flag is

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Speaker 1: as good and as exciting a domestic prospect as we've

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Speaker 1: had in a long time. Saint John's coach Rick Fatino

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Speaker 1: on Flag.

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Speaker 9: Well, he's physically ready. He's extremely athletic, he shoots the basketball,

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Speaker 9: he's a tough young man, and he's maybe one of

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Speaker 9: like three players that are ready to have an impact

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Speaker 9: right away for the Dallas Mavericks. He's got a good

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Speaker 9: inside game, good outside game. He drives with force, he

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Speaker 9: knows how to play the game.

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Speaker 2: He actually is young.

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Speaker 4: He skipped the year of high school, so.

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Speaker 9: It's he's ready for the NBA and I think he'll

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Speaker 9: be an impact basketball player right away.

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Speaker 1: I also think we have a comp on him that's

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Speaker 1: pretty accurate. It is Jason Tatum. They played in the

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Speaker 1: same you know, at Duke, so very rarely do you

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Speaker 1: get a comp and you're like, oh, yeah, that's an

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Speaker 1: obvious camp. I mean they both played at Duke, both

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Speaker 1: same Duke culture. Cooper Flag was younger, yet his numbers

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Speaker 1: were all a little better. He is absolutely a better

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Speaker 1: defensive player at this point, and he is absolutely a

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Speaker 1: more aggressive player now. Tatum much like Cooper Flagg Jason Tatum,

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Speaker 1: and they've entered a NBA with a very solid, well

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Speaker 1: run organization in Boston and had that iconic dunk as

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Speaker 1: a rookie over Lebron James. So in the very first year,

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Speaker 1: Jason Tatum, who went number three, I think that was

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Speaker 1: the Markel Fooles draft. Wasn't that the big bust? So,

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Speaker 1: I mean Tatum very early. We were all excited, and

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Speaker 1: I think that's what you'll feel. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: Dallas is well run. I think they were better run

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Speaker 1: with Mark Cuban, but the coach is good. You could

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Speaker 1: say what you want about Nico Harrison. They've drafted well.

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Speaker 1: They've got really good players. And I'll say it again,

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Speaker 1: you may not like the Luca trade if it was

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Speaker 1: a d and instead of Max Christie it was Austin Reeves.

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Speaker 1: I think you might feel different about that trade. And

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Speaker 1: one more first round pick, but they didn't get it.

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Speaker 1: But I know you all, you know all, you know,

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Speaker 1: how did they get Cooper Flagg? However, he's gonna be

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Speaker 1: really good, really fair.

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Speaker 4: I think he's gonna.

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Speaker 1: Look like Tatum as a rookie. You're gonna have some

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Speaker 1: iconic dunks and iconic moments and you're gonna be like, oh,

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Speaker 1: I can't wait till year two because you'll see some rawness.

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Speaker 1: I mean the NBA. One thing about the NBA that

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Speaker 1: you noticed in the playoffs, it is physical. Like like

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Speaker 1: Jay Billis said this the other day. I thought it

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Speaker 1: was a great point. In college, you talk about individual possessions.

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Speaker 1: In the NBA shot clock, the game is so fast

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Speaker 1: that you look up and you've had three or four possessions.

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Speaker 1: The NBA is just a faster league, and I think

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Speaker 1: that's why highlight Cooper Flagg. I think he plays fast.

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Speaker 1: I mean he's one of those guys he'll take two big,

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Speaker 1: long strides with the ball and he's at half court,

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Speaker 1: so he is not a plotting player. He is long,

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Speaker 1: he's athletic. He plays very fast. And that's the difference

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Speaker 1: between college and the pro. The pacing is insane at

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Speaker 1: the NBA level. I mean it's one of those things

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Speaker 1: where rarely do you see a coach in the NBA

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Speaker 1: like call a play, you trust your guard, you try

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Speaker 1: to catch him in a free throw break. But it's

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Speaker 1: just possession after possession after possession, and I just think

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Speaker 1: he's built for it.

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Speaker 7: I think if you're getting Jason Tatum, if you factor

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Speaker 7: in the economics, of the league. Would you take, you know,

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Speaker 7: trading Luca getting rid of that three hundred and fifty

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Speaker 7: million to start with a rookie contract, getting Jason Tatum

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Speaker 7: at eighteen years old. It might end up working out

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Speaker 7: for Nico Harrison. That's the best case though. I mean

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Speaker 7: that's a positive.

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Speaker 1: Much better defender, much better defender, and I would argue

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Speaker 1: a better athlete than Luca. Not the offensive prodigy. Lucas

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Speaker 1: one of the great me walked into the league. He

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Speaker 1: was an elite scorer. But in terms of a I

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Speaker 1: get right now, healthier player, better defender, better shape, and free.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you're not paying anything for you. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: I again that Dallas front line. He doesn't have to

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Speaker 1: protect the rim. He can get out in transition because

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Speaker 1: their front line in Dallas is outstanding. John Middlecoff, you

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Speaker 1: absolutely crushed. Loved having you.

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Speaker 6: I appreciate it. Cal see them all