WEBVTT - July 24, 1969 / Red Planet or Bust!

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<v Speaker 1>Nine Days in July is a production of I Heart

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<v Speaker 1>Radio and Trade Traft Studios in association with High five Content.

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<v Speaker 1>Just half an hour after the Saturn five bearing Apollo

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<v Speaker 1>eleven lifted off from Cape Kennedy, Vice President Spirou Agnew

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<v Speaker 1>sat down with Walter Cronkite, anchorman for the CBS Evening News.

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<v Speaker 1>After a brief discussion about the launch, Cronkite said the following,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's a nature of the American and the

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<v Speaker 1>people on the space program, particularly to constantly look beyond

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<v Speaker 1>where we are. This is the nature of the man

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<v Speaker 1>who wants to go to the Moon. However, Cronkite reminded

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<v Speaker 1>the Vice President that he had recently said, I think

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<v Speaker 1>the United States should undertake a very ambitious new project

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<v Speaker 1>in space. I think we should attempt interplanetary exploration in

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<v Speaker 1>a man's sense. At the time Agnew sat down with

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<v Speaker 1>America's most beloved newsman, Apollo eleven had just reached dorbent,

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<v Speaker 1>it would be four more days before it reached the Moon,

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<v Speaker 1>and no one knew if the first lunar mission would

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<v Speaker 1>even be successful. Despite that context, the Vice President of

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<v Speaker 1>the United States felt that American needed to articulate a

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<v Speaker 1>broad objective for the future. It's very easy to forego

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<v Speaker 1>the optimistic, long range approach to these things because you

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<v Speaker 1>can always find a hundred reasons not to do it

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<v Speaker 1>or why it may fail. But with the way science

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<v Speaker 1>has advanced in the past fifty years, I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>we'd be out of line and saying, for example, we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to put a man on Mars by the end

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<v Speaker 1>of this century. And when it came to Mars, Agnew's

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<v Speaker 1>objective was clear, and I think we should do it

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<v Speaker 1>by the end of the century. In nineteen sixty nine,

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<v Speaker 1>the year nine seemed a long way off. As of

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<v Speaker 1>the time of this recording was already two decades ago,

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<v Speaker 1>and we are still decades from landing on Mars. If ever, so,

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<v Speaker 1>what happened, Why did everything just stop? Where did we

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<v Speaker 1>go wrong? And is there any hope for humanity's space

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<v Speaker 1>faring future. About five hours before their planned splashed down,

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<v Speaker 1>the crew of Apollo eleven wake and prepare for landing.

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<v Speaker 1>Like excited kids waiting to open presents on Christmas morning.

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<v Speaker 1>They are up even before Houston attempts to rouse them.

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<v Speaker 1>Apollo eleven Good morning. To muse them all, Roger, we

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<v Speaker 1>saw you're up to turn around, and we're you're probably

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<v Speaker 1>leading your breakfast there about the maroon bugle, all of

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<v Speaker 1>fanning by here to give you the morning news. To

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<v Speaker 1>hear it. It's the last day of the news, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Apollo eleven remains the prime story with the world awaiting

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<v Speaker 1>your landing today at about the eleven am used in

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<v Speaker 1>time President Nixon that surprised your wise with a phone

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<v Speaker 1>call from San Francisco just before reboarded a plane to

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<v Speaker 1>fly out to meet you. President Nixon is flying out

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<v Speaker 1>to the aircraft carry you're assigned to retrieve the crew

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<v Speaker 1>once they splashed down in the Pacific Ocean. Eric Canada

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<v Speaker 1>says it has accepted twenty three hundred reservations for flights

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<v Speaker 1>to the Moon and the past five days, it might

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<v Speaker 1>be noted that more than one has been made by

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<v Speaker 1>men for their mothers in law. The fun stuff out

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<v Speaker 1>of the way, now it's time to get down to business.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember that last night before they went to sleep, mission

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<v Speaker 1>control informed the crew that a sudden storm had moved

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<v Speaker 1>into their landing zone. The night before the caps that

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<v Speaker 1>was forced to land in the Pacific Ocean. There n

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<v Speaker 1>from Hawaii, there were thunder storms, and so Mass had

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<v Speaker 1>decided to change to splashdown location just that night before,

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<v Speaker 1>two hundred fifty miles closer to Samoa, so the ship

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<v Speaker 1>had to steam all not loan to get down. That's

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<v Speaker 1>John Wolfram. John was a Navy seal who had already

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<v Speaker 1>done one tour in Vietnam and was about to embark

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<v Speaker 1>on another. But first he was chosen to be part

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<v Speaker 1>of A. Paulo Levin's recovery team. I was the youngest.

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<v Speaker 1>I am the team at the town. We'll have lots

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<v Speaker 1>more from John, the first person to greet the crew

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<v Speaker 1>of Apollo eleven upon their return. In just a minute.

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<v Speaker 1>The weather forecast in the landing area right now is

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<v Speaker 1>two thousands entered high added ten miles when about zero

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<v Speaker 1>eight zero at eighteen knots uh. You'll have about three

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<v Speaker 1>to second foot ways and it looks like they'll be

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<v Speaker 1>landing about ten minutes before sunrise over okay, Cluck shows

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<v Speaker 1>where five and a half hours away from entry interface

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<v Speaker 1>point at which Apollo living winner of the RK's atmosphere.

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<v Speaker 1>It really gets bigger up there, follow eleven. There the

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<v Speaker 1>hornet is on the station, just far enough off the

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<v Speaker 1>target point to keep from getting hit a recovery one

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<v Speaker 1>are the coppers. They're they're on station. However, as John

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<v Speaker 1>wolf From said, the Navy had to race full speed

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<v Speaker 1>ahead to the new landing area in order to get

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<v Speaker 1>on station on time. The ship assigned to recover the

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<v Speaker 1>capsule and crew is the USS Hornet, an Essex class

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<v Speaker 1>aircraft carrier that saw action up and down the Pacific

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<v Speaker 1>during World War Two. And I guess we're expanding by

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<v Speaker 1>for you to whip into the entry attitude. Okay, we

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<v Speaker 1>just been thanking a couple of lass manufacturers. Roger might

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<v Speaker 1>hid that may never come in there. Jim Lovell told

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<v Speaker 1>buzzing the crew to make sure they come in B

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<v Speaker 1>E F. That means blunt and forward. That's the heat

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<v Speaker 1>shield side astor not humor. I can see the moon

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<v Speaker 1>flight and by the window, and it looked at what

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<v Speaker 1>I considered to be a correct sign. I follow control

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<v Speaker 1>at one fifty minutes Follow eleven systems now eleven thousand,

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<v Speaker 1>four hundred sixty three nautical miles, approaching at the velocity

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<v Speaker 1>of seventeen thousand three hut per second. We were just

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<v Speaker 1>under an our away from the scheduled command module of

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<v Speaker 1>service Michul separation. If you had fallen into a coma

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<v Speaker 1>just after the first Moon landing in nineteen sixty nine

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<v Speaker 1>and awoke in two thousand and nineteen, you could be

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<v Speaker 1>forgiven for assuming the mission sparked a long and robust

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<v Speaker 1>era of interstellar exploration At DASA, The truth is, enthusiasm

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<v Speaker 1>for the Moon mission started to wane almost immediately. Though

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<v Speaker 1>we returned to the Moon five more times, it would

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<v Speaker 1>have been six if Apollo thirteen hadn't been forced to abort.

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<v Speaker 1>Deploying ever more sophisticated experiments and gaining greater scientific insights,

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<v Speaker 1>Apollo's budget was soon slashed, and the entire project was

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<v Speaker 1>halted just three years after Neil and Buzz first set

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<v Speaker 1>foot on the Moon. While some assumed that the Moon

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<v Speaker 1>was just the beginning of America's exploration of space, others,

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<v Speaker 1>like those in control of the Federal Purse, felt that

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<v Speaker 1>we'd beat the Soviets and won the space race. Why

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<v Speaker 1>did we need to keep going back, Andy Aldren, It

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<v Speaker 1>was kind of inevitable. We got into race, we won

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<v Speaker 1>the race, and so after the race, you've kind of

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<v Speaker 1>warmed down a little bit, and then you go look

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<v Speaker 1>for the next race. And it wasn't one. What happened

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<v Speaker 1>after Apollo was kind of the normalization of space. There

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<v Speaker 1>were a few significant last gasps. Rather than let its

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<v Speaker 1>left over rockets go to waste, the US built a

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<v Speaker 1>space station under the third stage of a Saturn five.

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<v Speaker 1>Between nineteen seventy three and seventy four. Sky Lab was

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<v Speaker 1>occupied for about twenty four weeks, demonstrating that humans can

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<v Speaker 1>live and work in space for long periods of time,

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<v Speaker 1>what more leisure. It was not uncommon for the men

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<v Speaker 1>of sky Lab who indulge themselves in the fluidity of

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<v Speaker 1>movement in zero G. And in July of ninety exactly

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<v Speaker 1>six years after Neil, Buzz and Michael went to the Moon,

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<v Speaker 1>a command module docked in Earth orbit with a Russian

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<v Speaker 1>Soyu spacecraft and three US astronauts and two Soviet cosmonauts

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<v Speaker 1>visited each other's spacecraft. With the final goodbye. The astronauts

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<v Speaker 1>of Apollo and the cosmonauts US ended their historic meeting

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<v Speaker 1>in space, and that was it. After decades of intense rivalry,

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<v Speaker 1>the space race was officially over and Apollo was grounded.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't just the Apollo spacecraft coming down, it was

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<v Speaker 1>the curtain the last Apollo mission once he beat the Soviets,

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<v Speaker 1>who care Space historian Amy Shearer title Nixon okayed a

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<v Speaker 1>space shuttle program, but hecated as the Shuttle to nowhere.

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<v Speaker 1>It was just a vehicle that could go up. It

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't go very far. It couldn't land anywhere but on

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<v Speaker 1>a runway. So we ended up in like NASCAR and space.

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<v Speaker 1>We ended up just kind of like running labs. While

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<v Speaker 1>I was alive for the sky Lab and Apollo Soyus missions,

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<v Speaker 1>I was too young to remember them. I grew up

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<v Speaker 1>with a Space Shuttle. I remember seeing the prototype Enterprise

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<v Speaker 1>during its international tour in nineteen three, which, as a

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<v Speaker 1>colossal Star Trek fan even then, delighted me to no end.

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<v Speaker 1>As an adult, I was lucky enough to witness three

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<v Speaker 1>Space shut launches and a landing. I loved that ship.

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<v Speaker 1>But while the space shuttles did great things, including launching

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<v Speaker 1>the Hubble Space Telescope, which gave us an unparalleled look

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<v Speaker 1>at our galactic home, and lift off of the Space

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<v Speaker 1>Shuttle Discovery with the Hubble Space Telescope our window on

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<v Speaker 1>the universe, and building the International Space Station, ensuring we've

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<v Speaker 1>had humans living and working in space continuously for more

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<v Speaker 1>than two decades. Tonight, I am directing Nasha to develop

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<v Speaker 1>a permanently manned space station, and to do it within

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<v Speaker 1>a decade. The Space Shuttle was an indisputable technological step backwards.

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<v Speaker 1>We went from a spacecraft capable of deep space flight

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<v Speaker 1>to one that couldn't even leave lower th orbit. It

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<v Speaker 1>was a perfect landing as the Atlantis touched down after

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<v Speaker 1>a thirteen day mission delivering supplies to the International Space Station,

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<v Speaker 1>a final voyage that brings the Shuttle programming to an end.

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<v Speaker 1>And when the last Space Shuttle touched down on July

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<v Speaker 1>twenty one, two thousand and eleven, America no longer had

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<v Speaker 1>the technology to get to space. To get to and

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<v Speaker 1>from the International Space Station, it had to begin buying

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<v Speaker 1>seats on Russian spacecraft. Spacecraft distance eight thousand, ninety will

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<v Speaker 1>bring autical miles a lot of the nineteen thousand, five

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<v Speaker 1>twelve second back in ninety nine. Apollo eleven is nearly home.

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<v Speaker 1>Rescue and the aircraft are reported on the station and

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<v Speaker 1>Horner helicopters containing with swimmers are reported. Airborne weather still

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<v Speaker 1>holding real fun the recovery area, and I signed going

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<v Speaker 1>down on Steal darkn as you heard earlier, the crew

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<v Speaker 1>will splash down just before sunrise. As they draw nearer

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<v Speaker 1>to the Earth, they find themselves shrouded in the darkness

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<v Speaker 1>of the Earth's night side. They are now traveling down

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<v Speaker 1>the barrel of a forty mile wide entry corridor. In

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<v Speaker 1>the command module, Michael swears he can feel the gravity

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<v Speaker 1>of his planet pulling him home. The men swallow anti

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<v Speaker 1>nausea pills. Assuming everything goes according to plan, they will

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<v Speaker 1>soon be bobbing in seas with three to six foot waves.

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<v Speaker 1>The men have gone over their entry checklists numerous times already.

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<v Speaker 1>They have too much time on their hands, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>beginning to create some anxiety. And we're about ten minutes

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<v Speaker 1>away from the scheduled separations time. Now it's time to

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<v Speaker 1>lose the service module, the largest portion of their spacecraft,

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<v Speaker 1>containing most of their power, fuel and rocket engine. They

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<v Speaker 1>can't enter the atmosphere if it's still attached. We see

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<v Speaker 1>you getting ready for sent Everything wants to find to

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<v Speaker 1>find down here, we're awaiting confirmation of separation. When Apollo

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<v Speaker 1>eleven launched, it weighs six million pounds. The only thing

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<v Speaker 1>left of the once massive Saturn five is the eleven

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<v Speaker 1>thousand pound triangular shaped station wagon sized command module. Once detached,

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<v Speaker 1>thrusters on the service module fire to push it far

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<v Speaker 1>from the crew. They don't want it burning up anywhere

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<v Speaker 1>near them. Away confirmed separation. Now from on my ground

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<v Speaker 1>reading telemetry, we can confirm separation. And also was mindul

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<v Speaker 1>taking good carabous? You want to take you to a

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<v Speaker 1>camp in Houston. I used to look at mighty fine

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<v Speaker 1>here your player for landing. I appreciate every d gears

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<v Speaker 1>down a lock more astronaut humor. We got the modulet

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<v Speaker 1>going by a little high coming across now right to left. Buzzes.

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<v Speaker 1>Words that you just heard were actually classified for years.

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<v Speaker 1>The thrusters that were supposed to move the service module

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<v Speaker 1>away didn't work properly. The crew is about to begin

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<v Speaker 1>their re entry and the service module is diving into

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<v Speaker 1>the atmosphere right beside them. Hello, I'm gonna lined up

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<v Speaker 1>right down the mid a little bit. Entry corridors now

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<v Speaker 1>thirty five thousand, five seventy eight ft per second. We're

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<v Speaker 1>a minute in forty five seconds from entry. Blackout will

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<v Speaker 1>begin eighteens second after once the ship strikes the atmosphere

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<v Speaker 1>and becomes wreathed in plasma calms with mission control will

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<v Speaker 1>be impossible. They will be coming down in the blind

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<v Speaker 1>over the hill. You're looking mind to find that we're

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<v Speaker 1>an entry time black guys. Very shortly, there's a black

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<v Speaker 1>guy at am Houston time, four thousand feet above Australia, Columbia,

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<v Speaker 1>hits the atmosphere and more than thirty six thousand ft

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<v Speaker 1>per second, or ten times faster than a rifle bullet.

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<v Speaker 1>We had to be able to use the atmosphere to

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<v Speaker 1>slow us all the way down, uh until we got

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<v Speaker 1>into a velocity that will allow us to put up

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<v Speaker 1>the parish. That was Apollo eight and Apollo thirteen astronaut

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<v Speaker 1>Jim Level. Tracy Caldwald Dyson is a current NASA astronaut.

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<v Speaker 1>She went to space twice, once on the Space Shuttle

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<v Speaker 1>and the second time to live aboard the International Space Station.

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<v Speaker 1>To get home from that trip, she had to take

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<v Speaker 1>a ride in a Russian soy Use capsule and you

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<v Speaker 1>see the the atmosphere that you're about to go through,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you fire this one burn. It's a long burn,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's directed precisely to put you at the right

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<v Speaker 1>angle and at the right spot to pass through the atmosphere.

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<v Speaker 1>If Michael didn't calculate the precise right angle, the command

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<v Speaker 1>module will be vaporized too shallow, and it will bounce

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<v Speaker 1>off the atmosphere and be flung into space. The blackness

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<v Speaker 1>the guys were talking about earlier is now gone. Out

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<v Speaker 1>their tiny windows. The astronauts now begin to see ravenous

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<v Speaker 1>flames as ionized gases created by the heat re entry

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<v Speaker 1>begin enveloping the ship. Calms are gone for the next

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<v Speaker 1>four minutes. No one on Earth will know what's going

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<v Speaker 1>on inside apollow eleven, or indeed whether they successfully made

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<v Speaker 1>it through the atmosphere or disintegrated on re entry. Where

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<v Speaker 1>three minutes since entry blackout shoot in about three minutes

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<v Speaker 1>fifty three seconds after entry, or about eleven minutes lay

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<v Speaker 1>back in mission control, Evans at Capcom optimistically attempts to

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<v Speaker 1>raise the ship. There is no answer. Inside Columbia, the

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<v Speaker 1>astronauts can no longer see the service module. They are

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<v Speaker 1>enveloped in incandescent protoplasm. If you could see them right now,

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<v Speaker 1>they appear as a blazing comment. The astronauts are falling

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<v Speaker 1>through a tunnel of colors orange, yellow, blue, even lavender,

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<v Speaker 1>which finally gives way to pure white. Michael feels as

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<v Speaker 1>if he's sitting inside of an enormous light bulb. Jim Level.

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<v Speaker 1>We could, of course look out the windows and see

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<v Speaker 1>the hate shield material. Flaky's all as the flames going

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<v Speaker 1>passed us. You never go through grade school thinking you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to be in the middle of a fireball, but

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<v Speaker 1>that's exactly what happens as you go through the atmosphere.

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<v Speaker 1>Your spacecraft is a blating and designed to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>Pieces of embers as your window, and you can smell

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<v Speaker 1>the charring, so you can feel the g forces building.

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<v Speaker 1>What they can't see is that the service module is

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<v Speaker 1>being torn into fiery pieces. If any of the dying

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<v Speaker 1>vessels fragments collide with the command module, it will almost

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<v Speaker 1>certainly kill everyone aboard. Right, we tried going to the

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<v Speaker 1>Moon again. Inspired by all that that has come before,

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<v Speaker 1>and guided by clear objectives, today we set a new

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<v Speaker 1>course for America's space program. We will give NASA new

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<v Speaker 1>focus and vision for future exploration. We will build new

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<v Speaker 1>ships to carry man forward into the universe, to gain

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<v Speaker 1>a new foothold on the Moon, and to prepare for

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<v Speaker 1>new journeys to the worlds beyond our own on January

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<v Speaker 1>two and four, President H. W. Bush said, we will

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<v Speaker 1>undertake extended human missions to the Moon as early as

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<v Speaker 1>with the goal of living and working there for increasingly

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<v Speaker 1>extended periods of time. We even tested one of the

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<v Speaker 1>rockets that was going to get us there, the Cognition

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<v Speaker 1>lift off of Harry's one X festing concepts for the

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<v Speaker 1>future of new rocket design. On top of the arias

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<v Speaker 1>was going to be a new command module named Oriyan,

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<v Speaker 1>and blueprints were being drafted for a new lunar module

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<v Speaker 1>dubbed Altaire. However, when the Obama administration took over, they

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<v Speaker 1>found the program over budget and behind schedule, and they

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<v Speaker 1>shut it down. Yes, pursuing this new strategy will require

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<v Speaker 1>that we revise the old strategy. In part. This is

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<v Speaker 1>because the old strategy, including the constellation program, was not

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<v Speaker 1>fulfilling its promise in many ways, and in the organization

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<v Speaker 1>like NASA, where lead times for developing technology are so long,

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<v Speaker 1>if you suddenly change the general objective of things every

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<v Speaker 1>four years, it has a huge impact. We have to

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<v Speaker 1>stop pushing the reset button every time there's a change

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<v Speaker 1>of power. In Washington, they've been pushing the reset button

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<v Speaker 1>on NASA again. And again and again, and it's been

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<v Speaker 1>really harmful to the progress of the program. To keep

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<v Speaker 1>moving the goal post the entire football stadium. That's destructive.

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<v Speaker 1>That was NASA chief historian Bill Berry and Apollo historian

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<v Speaker 1>Andrew Chaken. Under Obama, NASA proposed a new mission landing

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<v Speaker 1>humans on an asteroid, but that too soon withered on

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<v Speaker 1>the vine, and all the while American astronauts kept getting

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<v Speaker 1>two and from space on Russian equipment. Then in two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand and seventeen, nearly a decade after Constellation was shelved,

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<v Speaker 1>NASA announced the Artemis program. Fifty years ago, we went

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<v Speaker 1>to the Moon. We called it Apollo. Well many people

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<v Speaker 1>don't know is that Apollo had a twin. She was

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<v Speaker 1>a woman named Artemis, the goddess of the Moon. As

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<v Speaker 1>Tracy calledwell Dyson. She represents our next era of exploration

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<v Speaker 1>in space. Artemis encompasses how we're going to get to

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<v Speaker 1>the Moon and what we're gonna do when we get there.

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<v Speaker 1>NASA's goal is landing the first woman in man on

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<v Speaker 1>the Moon. By just four years from now, we are

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<v Speaker 1>returning to the Moon as a new generation of explorers,

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<v Speaker 1>this time to stay. Artemists is intended to be the

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<v Speaker 1>first step in setting up a long term human presence

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<v Speaker 1>on the Moon and perhaps even creating a lunar economy.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is all to explore the surface of the

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<v Speaker 1>Moon and utilize the resources there. We found an ideal

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<v Speaker 1>fuel in the soul when materials on the Moon for

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<v Speaker 1>fusion power production. It's called helium three. Apollo seventeen moonwalker

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<v Speaker 1>and geologist Harrison Schmidt Iste imp that fuse with itself

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<v Speaker 1>produces absolutely no radio activity. It creates energetic particles that

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<v Speaker 1>can be converted to electricity at much higher efficiencies than

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<v Speaker 1>any other kind of power systems. Artemis is the most

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<v Speaker 1>ambitious thing NASA has done since Apollo. It is nearly

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<v Speaker 1>done building the SLS, a new rocket even larger and

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<v Speaker 1>more powerful than the Saturn five. NASA is building the

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<v Speaker 1>Space Launch System, comprising of a cargo hold and exploration

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<v Speaker 1>upper stage, a massive course stage, and two extended solid

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<v Speaker 1>rocket boosters. Altogether, this is the world's most powerful rocket

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<v Speaker 1>and it exceeds the legendary Saturn five of the Apollo

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<v Speaker 1>era in numerous ways. The fl F is Space Launch System,

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<v Speaker 1>and it is the greatest rocket we've ever built. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>it will be more powerful than the Saturn five. The

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<v Speaker 1>Ryan Capsule is the spacecraft that is going to return

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<v Speaker 1>humans to the Moon and destinations beyond. Just as the

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<v Speaker 1>Command Module is the only part of the Saturn five

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<v Speaker 1>to survive the trip, so two is the Orion Capsule

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<v Speaker 1>the only thing to survive Constellation. This is their deep

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<v Speaker 1>space human rated spacecraft called Orion. The crew module. We're

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<v Speaker 1>up to four astronauts will live and work throughout the flight,

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<v Speaker 1>and while the original Command Module could hold only three people,

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<v Speaker 1>the Orion Capsule has seating for four. Other than the

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<v Speaker 1>new lemb which will discuss in just a moment, NASA

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<v Speaker 1>has added something to the Apollo architecture, the Gateway. Building

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<v Speaker 1>on the lessons learned from the International Space Station, the

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<v Speaker 1>key to sustainable lunar missions is establishing an orbiting lunar

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<v Speaker 1>outpost that we call Gateway, a small space station. The

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<v Speaker 1>Gateway will be placed in orbit around the Moon and

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<v Speaker 1>provide the astronauts living quarters and their research lab. The

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<v Speaker 1>Apollo missions were inspired by a space race. Artemis is

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<v Speaker 1>also a global partnership. We're not a race, We're a partnership.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to explore the Moon for purposes that benefit

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<v Speaker 1>mankind to learn more about it and use it as

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<v Speaker 1>a platform to then go further. I'm profoundly grateful that

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<v Speaker 1>we are setting our sights on the Moon again after

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<v Speaker 1>so much time when the Moon seemed to be sideline. However,

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<v Speaker 1>Chicken is skeptical, and I just am not convinced that

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<v Speaker 1>we can, even with the most talented people that we

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<v Speaker 1>have at NASA and elsewhere. It's asking a lot to

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<v Speaker 1>do it in just five years. But I'm glad we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about it. I want to see it happen. I

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<v Speaker 1>just don't want to see us do it without the

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<v Speaker 1>same care and the same diligence, because if we don't

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<v Speaker 1>do those things, we're gonna pay the price that they

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<v Speaker 1>paid an Apollo with accidents and perhaps even fatal accidents.

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<v Speaker 1>And he's not the only one. Space historian Amy Sharer

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<v Speaker 1>title feels the same way. Yeah, I feel like we're

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<v Speaker 1>in that compleateding where we have to manage expectations with

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<v Speaker 1>the reality of how hard space it. That's fine, because

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<v Speaker 1>space is hard, but you know, let's let's be realistic

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<v Speaker 1>and say we're going to do this, and we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to do it in the time that it needs to take.

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<v Speaker 1>For her part, Tracy Caldwell Dyson, who's in line to

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<v Speaker 1>be the first woman on the moon, thinks NASA is

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<v Speaker 1>doing just that. We know things take time, and they

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<v Speaker 1>take time because human lives are at stake. Everything in

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<v Speaker 1>space takes longer. And then in this day and age

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<v Speaker 1>where everything is so instant, we have to take time

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<v Speaker 1>or else we're not gonna get there smartly, and then

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<v Speaker 1>we could end up parting somebody in the process. One

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<v Speaker 1>of the ways NASA is hoping to alleviate time and

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<v Speaker 1>stress is by allowing commercial interests to take over human

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<v Speaker 1>and cargo flights to the I s s. That way

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<v Speaker 1>they can focus on bigger things. There are a group

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<v Speaker 1>of billionaires Elon Musk, Jeff Bezos, Richard Branson, and some

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<v Speaker 1>others who are leading sort of the growth of a

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<v Speaker 1>commercial private space industry that has been over the last

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<v Speaker 1>decade or so slowly eroding the government's long held but

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<v Speaker 1>not lee on space. That's Chris Davenport. I'm a reporter

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<v Speaker 1>at the Washington Post, where I write about space and

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<v Speaker 1>um also the author of a book called The Space

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<v Speaker 1>barns Well. NASA and other global governments have dominated space

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<v Speaker 1>exploration given its expense and risk. Private entrepreneurs Chris is

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<v Speaker 1>aptly named space Barns are beginning to move in on

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<v Speaker 1>their domain, bringing with them new technologies and innovative manufacturing

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<v Speaker 1>processes that drive costs down and get the job done faster.

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<v Speaker 1>First and foremost elon Musk SpaceX. I mean, they are

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<v Speaker 1>the ones who sort of broke down the barriers from

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<v Speaker 1>the very beginning and said we are going to enter

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<v Speaker 1>this market and try to disrupt the space launch market.

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<v Speaker 1>And they've been successful in doing that, and they've gotten

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<v Speaker 1>multiple contracts from NASA to the tune of billions of

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<v Speaker 1>dollars to fly first cargo and supplies to the International

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<v Speaker 1>Space Station, which they've been doing now for a number

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<v Speaker 1>of years. And SpaceX along with Boeing have contracts to

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<v Speaker 1>fly people to the International Space Station. And then you

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<v Speaker 1>have Blue Origin, which was founded by Jeff Bezos. Bezos,

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<v Speaker 1>who owns Amazon, is the richest man in the world.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of people don't even realize that Jeff Bezos

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<v Speaker 1>has a space company, but he does, and they're building

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<v Speaker 1>a whole suite of vehicles. In fact, Blue Origin will

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<v Speaker 1>be the lead company designing and building the new lunar

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<v Speaker 1>module for the artist project. Let me show you something.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Blue Moon. We've been working on this lander

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<v Speaker 1>for three years. This is an incredible vehicle and it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to the Moon. And you're seeing NASA initially being

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<v Speaker 1>I think reluctant, are wary of that, and now more

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<v Speaker 1>and more starting to embrace that, saying if we are

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<v Speaker 1>going to go back to the Moon or on to Mars,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna need these companies. One of the biggest things

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<v Speaker 1>companies like SpaceX and Blue Origin are doing is rebooting

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<v Speaker 1>how we make rockets. Since they were first invented, rockets

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<v Speaker 1>have been a one and done piece of equipment. And

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<v Speaker 1>Ellen looked at that, and Jeff Bezos looked at that

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<v Speaker 1>and said, you know, we're never going to lower the

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<v Speaker 1>cost of space. We keep throwing away the most expensive

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<v Speaker 1>part of the hardware. Imagine if after flying from Los

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<v Speaker 1>Angeles to New York, United Airlines threw away the seven

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<v Speaker 1>thirty seven that brought you there. That's essentially what we're

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<v Speaker 1>doing in space right now. So they are working on

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<v Speaker 1>building rockets that deliver their payloads to orbit and then

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<v Speaker 1>fly back down to Earth and land on land or

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<v Speaker 1>land on a ship at sea. During the Cold War,

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<v Speaker 1>space exploration was driven by intense political and ideological rivalries.

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<v Speaker 1>Today space has become ego driven. Davenport once asked Elon

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<v Speaker 1>Musk about his rivalry with Bezos, and Musk told him

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<v Speaker 1>if I had a button that I could press and

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<v Speaker 1>make Jeff Bezos Blue Origin go away, I would not

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<v Speaker 1>press that button. And I think that's because he understands

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<v Speaker 1>how important it is to have competition and to be

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<v Speaker 1>driven by rivals. Competition is the best rocket fuel. But

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<v Speaker 1>Elon Musk is not satisfied with merely shuttling cargo and

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<v Speaker 1>people to the International Space Station. He and NASA have

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<v Speaker 1>their eyes set much higher. The reason for creating SpaceX

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<v Speaker 1>was to accelerate humanity becoming a space bearing civilization to

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<v Speaker 1>a point where we could potentially become a multiplanet species.

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<v Speaker 1>All of Humanity's eggs are in one basket, and should

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<v Speaker 1>something happen to the Earth, you know, like if an

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<v Speaker 1>asteroid would hit the Earth, we're toast. We're going the

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<v Speaker 1>way of the dinosaur. And his goal was to sort

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<v Speaker 1>of have a backup um, the way you would back

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<v Speaker 1>up your hard drive, but for humanity, and that's Mars,

0:27:44.640 --> 0:27:47.920
<v Speaker 1>to make it a place where humanity could go and

0:27:48.000 --> 0:27:51.879
<v Speaker 1>to extend the light of consciousness well into the future

0:27:51.880 --> 0:28:03.560
<v Speaker 1>and sort of as an insurance plan. Eleven th Back

0:28:03.600 --> 0:28:07.160
<v Speaker 1>in mission control, Ron Evans is still trying to raise Neil,

0:28:07.200 --> 0:28:10.880
<v Speaker 1>buzzing Michael in the command module. If Columbia survived re entry,

0:28:11.200 --> 0:28:20.480
<v Speaker 1>they should have regained contact again by now, even through

0:28:20.720 --> 0:28:24.920
<v Speaker 1>ray standing by. Be nice to get that confirmation and

0:28:25.000 --> 0:28:29.040
<v Speaker 1>minutes gone by now since they scheduling opening to the mains.

0:28:29.520 --> 0:28:33.080
<v Speaker 1>On the USS Hornet spotters scan the sky with binoculars.

0:28:34.160 --> 0:28:37.560
<v Speaker 1>Give us the word. We're getting nothing from a mission

0:28:37.600 --> 0:28:44.240
<v Speaker 1>control or from the spaceship, reports Sonic Colon. One of

0:28:44.280 --> 0:28:47.160
<v Speaker 1>the sailors cries out he thinks he sees something falling

0:28:47.200 --> 0:28:51.360
<v Speaker 1>through the clouds aboard his helicopter. Rescue swimmer John Wolfer

0:28:51.600 --> 0:28:53.920
<v Speaker 1>sees it too. We looked up from the helicopter. You

0:28:53.960 --> 0:28:58.680
<v Speaker 1>can see the capsule burning back to the atmosphere. A

0:28:58.720 --> 0:29:02.520
<v Speaker 1>momentary eventual of high attack has now disappeared behind cloud

0:29:02.600 --> 0:29:05.880
<v Speaker 1>and FLO elevens and standing by for your desty reading

0:29:05.920 --> 0:29:10.800
<v Speaker 1>over FULO eleven east and your destry reading plays over

0:29:14.600 --> 0:29:25.239
<v Speaker 1>at that was new They've made it dog they are,

0:29:25.880 --> 0:29:30.800
<v Speaker 1>and they're obviously all right shoots have deployed eleven cos

0:29:31.000 --> 0:29:35.920
<v Speaker 1>right on. Well, you take that to Some of the

0:29:36.200 --> 0:29:40.000
<v Speaker 1>more sensational moments are when the parachutes open up and

0:29:40.160 --> 0:29:41.880
<v Speaker 1>it feels like it brings the whole copsle to a

0:29:42.120 --> 0:29:46.800
<v Speaker 1>slam stop, and then it spins, and then it sways

0:29:46.880 --> 0:29:49.160
<v Speaker 1>back and forth, and the whole time you're just hoping

0:29:49.240 --> 0:29:52.080
<v Speaker 1>that you keep your cookies and should be on main shoots.

0:29:52.880 --> 0:29:55.080
<v Speaker 1>It is like one of the craziest ride you've ever

0:29:55.160 --> 0:29:58.040
<v Speaker 1>had in your life. Eight minutes after first hitting the atmosphere,

0:29:58.400 --> 0:30:01.280
<v Speaker 1>the command modules slowed enough for three large red and

0:30:01.320 --> 0:30:04.520
<v Speaker 1>white parachutes to open. They had to deploy at just

0:30:04.760 --> 0:30:07.520
<v Speaker 1>the right time. If they opened too late, the capsule

0:30:07.560 --> 0:30:10.440
<v Speaker 1>would hit the water too violently too early, and they'd

0:30:10.520 --> 0:30:13.680
<v Speaker 1>likely drift off course far from rescue. For the crew

0:30:13.760 --> 0:30:16.680
<v Speaker 1>of Apollo eleven, the view outside their windows went from

0:30:16.680 --> 0:30:19.520
<v Speaker 1>the inky blackness of space to the nucleus of a

0:30:19.600 --> 0:30:22.880
<v Speaker 1>fireball and is now the dazzling azure blue of the

0:30:22.960 --> 0:30:28.360
<v Speaker 1>earth sky. We're cast four minutes and with that, mission

0:30:28.400 --> 0:30:32.760
<v Speaker 1>control's work is done. With the shoots deployed, tactical operational

0:30:32.840 --> 0:30:36.080
<v Speaker 1>command transfers from mission control to the U S s Hornet,

0:30:46.000 --> 0:30:55.800
<v Speaker 1>I have an Eric, I have a three part flashed down.

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<v Speaker 1>They're back from the Moon. As for not time strong

0:31:03.520 --> 0:31:07.680
<v Speaker 1>Aldrin and Collins landing in the Pacific Ocean southwest of Hay,

0:31:08.120 --> 0:31:11.240
<v Speaker 1>Apollo eleven splashes down eight hundred and twenty five nautical

0:31:11.320 --> 0:31:15.120
<v Speaker 1>miles southwest of Honolulu, about thirteen nautical miles from the

0:31:15.160 --> 0:31:19.400
<v Speaker 1>recovery show inside the capsule, Mike Collins is astonished at

0:31:19.440 --> 0:31:23.040
<v Speaker 1>how blue the ocean looks Imagine after nine days of

0:31:23.160 --> 0:31:26.240
<v Speaker 1>monochrome black and then gray and then black again, what

0:31:26.480 --> 0:31:29.560
<v Speaker 1>dropping into a violet ocean must look like their eyes.

0:31:30.360 --> 0:31:34.800
<v Speaker 1>Jim Lovell splash down for me was very exhilarated. I

0:31:34.880 --> 0:31:38.600
<v Speaker 1>could feel the bobby of the ocean and the spacecraft,

0:31:39.120 --> 0:31:44.560
<v Speaker 1>and suddenly I realized that, my gosh a home. Everything

0:31:44.680 --> 0:31:48.880
<v Speaker 1>worked out now if the Navy would be very careful

0:31:49.080 --> 0:31:52.040
<v Speaker 1>and not to let the spacecraft sake on us, but

0:31:52.200 --> 0:31:55.760
<v Speaker 1>we were safe. In Houston. Buzzes son Andy is watching

0:31:55.800 --> 0:31:58.120
<v Speaker 1>the news on splash down day. We had a lot

0:31:58.160 --> 0:32:01.240
<v Speaker 1>of people over at the house, and hind everyone that

0:32:01.520 --> 0:32:04.800
<v Speaker 1>was associated with my dad or mom seemed to show up.

0:32:05.080 --> 0:32:07.160
<v Speaker 1>Andy wishes he was aboard the U. S. S. Hornet,

0:32:07.520 --> 0:32:09.080
<v Speaker 1>not so much because he wants to be among the

0:32:09.160 --> 0:32:12.080
<v Speaker 1>first to greet his dad, but rather because he's eleven

0:32:12.160 --> 0:32:15.440
<v Speaker 1>years old and aircraft carriers are cool. There was sort

0:32:15.480 --> 0:32:18.280
<v Speaker 1>of a collective sigh of relief when it was all done.

0:32:18.640 --> 0:32:21.960
<v Speaker 1>His mother, Joan, can finally relax. Her husband and his

0:32:22.040 --> 0:32:25.880
<v Speaker 1>two shipmates survived the greatest feat humans ever attempted, and

0:32:25.960 --> 0:32:28.760
<v Speaker 1>would soon be on their way home as conquering heroes.

0:32:29.600 --> 0:32:32.440
<v Speaker 1>At this moment in time, Joan has no idea of

0:32:32.520 --> 0:32:35.640
<v Speaker 1>the challenges and heartaches to come, but if she had,

0:32:36.160 --> 0:32:38.240
<v Speaker 1>she would surely have taken some strength in the fact

0:32:38.560 --> 0:32:41.440
<v Speaker 1>that she had just faced the most profoundly difficult nine

0:32:41.560 --> 0:32:43.600
<v Speaker 1>days of her life and come out on the other

0:32:43.720 --> 0:32:48.120
<v Speaker 1>side a hero to her children. My mother was incredibly

0:32:48.200 --> 0:32:51.960
<v Speaker 1>effective at not letting us know what happened. I didn't

0:32:52.000 --> 0:32:55.520
<v Speaker 1>sense her anxiety at all. It just reflects the incredible

0:32:55.520 --> 0:32:58.960
<v Speaker 1>strength that my mom showed throughout this whole process. After

0:32:59.080 --> 0:33:02.360
<v Speaker 1>the splashdown, Janet Armstrong stood on her front yard and

0:33:02.440 --> 0:33:05.280
<v Speaker 1>in front of the gathered press, thanked everyone in America

0:33:05.560 --> 0:33:08.760
<v Speaker 1>for their thoughts and prayers. The entire experience, she said,

0:33:09.200 --> 0:33:40.680
<v Speaker 1>was quite simply out of this world and when the

0:33:40.880 --> 0:33:44.520
<v Speaker 1>capsule hit the ocean water. I think mars Alden was

0:33:44.520 --> 0:33:47.400
<v Speaker 1>supposed to flip a lever the jets in those parachutes,

0:33:47.520 --> 0:33:49.680
<v Speaker 1>but his hand got knocked up to lever because of

0:33:49.760 --> 0:33:53.520
<v Speaker 1>the jolt, and the wind carried the capsule upset. Now,

0:33:54.200 --> 0:33:55.720
<v Speaker 1>the last thing you want to be attached to in

0:33:55.760 --> 0:33:58.720
<v Speaker 1>the water is a parachute. One of two things is

0:33:58.760 --> 0:34:01.400
<v Speaker 1>going to happen. I the parachute will fill with water

0:34:01.480 --> 0:34:03.760
<v Speaker 1>and drag you wonder, or it will catch the wind

0:34:03.840 --> 0:34:06.960
<v Speaker 1>like a sail and begin dragging you away. As soon

0:34:07.000 --> 0:34:09.520
<v Speaker 1>as Columbia hit the water, Buzz was supposed to trip

0:34:09.560 --> 0:34:12.640
<v Speaker 1>a circuit breaker, jettisoning the shoots and allowing Michael to

0:34:12.719 --> 0:34:16.719
<v Speaker 1>deploy inflatable balloons to keep the capsule upright, but the

0:34:16.760 --> 0:34:19.160
<v Speaker 1>impact was so violent that his hand was knocked off

0:34:19.160 --> 0:34:20.920
<v Speaker 1>the switch, and by the time he was able to

0:34:21.000 --> 0:34:23.960
<v Speaker 1>find it again, the gum drop was already inverted, with

0:34:24.120 --> 0:34:27.240
<v Speaker 1>each of the men hanging upside down in their seats. Earlier,

0:34:27.480 --> 0:34:30.480
<v Speaker 1>Michael Bett Neil a beer that they'd stay upright. He

0:34:30.640 --> 0:34:33.920
<v Speaker 1>just lost that bed. They flipped some splitches I think

0:34:34.000 --> 0:34:37.160
<v Speaker 1>Mark Collins did that would inflate these blooms. And they

0:34:37.239 --> 0:34:40.560
<v Speaker 1>took the whole a minister that capsule the upright. As

0:34:40.640 --> 0:34:43.759
<v Speaker 1>they hang upside down with the balloons inflating, Michael thinks,

0:34:43.800 --> 0:34:47.160
<v Speaker 1>how wrongly oriented everything looks back in a world with

0:34:47.239 --> 0:34:49.920
<v Speaker 1>gravity for the first time in nine days, tops and

0:34:50.000 --> 0:34:59.400
<v Speaker 1>bottoms are real things again. Got in position and I'm standing.

0:34:59.440 --> 0:35:04.080
<v Speaker 1>Then they go, and as I'm looking down at that capsule,

0:35:04.360 --> 0:35:06.799
<v Speaker 1>I realized the world was watching, so I didn't want

0:35:06.840 --> 0:35:13.240
<v Speaker 1>to make any mistakes. John Wolfram jumps from the hovering

0:35:13.280 --> 0:35:16.800
<v Speaker 1>helicopter and swims over to Columbia. It's lower half charred

0:35:16.880 --> 0:35:19.920
<v Speaker 1>and blackened from re entering. The capsule is still warnder

0:35:20.000 --> 0:35:23.480
<v Speaker 1>to touch. John attaches a sea anchor, basically a large

0:35:23.560 --> 0:35:26.200
<v Speaker 1>cloth bucket designed to fill with water and keep the

0:35:26.280 --> 0:35:32.400
<v Speaker 1>vessel more or less where it is that I was

0:35:32.440 --> 0:35:34.840
<v Speaker 1>supposed to get a thumbs up in the astronauts. I

0:35:34.960 --> 0:35:38.480
<v Speaker 1>saw them grinning back at me. I relayed that to

0:35:38.640 --> 0:35:41.400
<v Speaker 1>the National helicopter that was circund above and let him

0:35:41.400 --> 0:35:53.240
<v Speaker 1>mold the Okay, right, we're going. There's two more frogmen.

0:35:53.440 --> 0:35:56.960
<v Speaker 1>They jumped in and together we put this floatation bladder

0:35:57.120 --> 0:36:02.840
<v Speaker 1>around the capsule, and then after that was completed, they

0:36:02.960 --> 0:36:05.960
<v Speaker 1>dropped down a wrapped if we implanted in and then

0:36:06.000 --> 0:36:08.200
<v Speaker 1>we got trashed right in front of the hatch store

0:36:08.200 --> 0:36:13.880
<v Speaker 1>where the ash nuts would come out. Next come the

0:36:13.960 --> 0:36:18.160
<v Speaker 1>bigs biological isolation garments. Do you swimmer with? The biological

0:36:18.239 --> 0:36:21.319
<v Speaker 1>isolation garments is in the next to the space crap.

0:36:22.160 --> 0:36:25.720
<v Speaker 1>That's Lieutenant Clancy Handelberg of Chippewa falls within a const

0:36:26.680 --> 0:36:29.120
<v Speaker 1>NASA is concerned that the astronauts may have brought something

0:36:29.239 --> 0:36:32.000
<v Speaker 1>harmful back with them from the Moon. Because of this,

0:36:32.440 --> 0:36:35.520
<v Speaker 1>the rescue divers are all wearing protective gear, and they

0:36:35.600 --> 0:36:37.480
<v Speaker 1>brought biggs for the Apollo eleven crew to put on

0:36:37.560 --> 0:36:40.480
<v Speaker 1>as well. The fear of alien pathogens is in the

0:36:40.560 --> 0:36:44.640
<v Speaker 1>forefront of everyone's minds. Nine is the same year that

0:36:44.719 --> 0:36:48.160
<v Speaker 1>Michael Crichton's The Andromeda Strain came out about the deadly

0:36:48.239 --> 0:36:52.440
<v Speaker 1>outbreak of an extraterrestrial micro organism. Neil opens the command

0:36:52.520 --> 0:36:55.600
<v Speaker 1>module hatch so twenty five year old Lieutenant Haddleberg can

0:36:55.719 --> 0:36:59.040
<v Speaker 1>hand them their suits. If there are moonbugs, they were

0:36:59.080 --> 0:37:02.160
<v Speaker 1>just released into our atmosphere and ocean, so much for

0:37:02.239 --> 0:37:07.640
<v Speaker 1>that plan is now transferring to the crew. Haddleberg reseals

0:37:07.680 --> 0:37:11.840
<v Speaker 1>the hatch inside Columbia Neil, Buzz and Michael stand unsteadily.

0:37:12.400 --> 0:37:14.799
<v Speaker 1>After a week and a half in space, Earth normal

0:37:14.840 --> 0:37:19.240
<v Speaker 1>gravity feels well aliens. The men swallow several more anti

0:37:19.320 --> 0:37:22.120
<v Speaker 1>nausea meds. The last thing they want to do is

0:37:22.200 --> 0:37:25.880
<v Speaker 1>throw up inside their biohazard suits. A big sama now

0:37:26.040 --> 0:37:29.319
<v Speaker 1>spraying the hatch area and the top deck and around

0:37:29.360 --> 0:37:33.200
<v Speaker 1>the hatch. Command modger with it, even in stamina. While

0:37:33.239 --> 0:37:36.520
<v Speaker 1>the crew changes, Lieutenant Haddleberg uses a large brush to

0:37:36.680 --> 0:37:40.320
<v Speaker 1>scrub the exterior of Columbia with a sudsy decontaminant, just

0:37:40.480 --> 0:37:46.759
<v Speaker 1>in case it's covered in spacebugs. First, after they downed them,

0:37:46.840 --> 0:37:50.640
<v Speaker 1>they came out into the raft, Haddelberg washed them all down.

0:37:51.040 --> 0:37:54.520
<v Speaker 1>Once all the astronauts are decontaminated, they climb aboard the raft.

0:37:55.280 --> 0:37:58.080
<v Speaker 1>They are splashed by waves, and even though they're covered

0:37:58.120 --> 0:38:00.680
<v Speaker 1>head to toe, they can feel the fresh and cold.

0:38:01.239 --> 0:38:03.520
<v Speaker 1>Michael wants nothing more than to rip off his suit,

0:38:03.880 --> 0:38:06.920
<v Speaker 1>splash cold water all over his face, and inhale the

0:38:07.040 --> 0:38:10.320
<v Speaker 1>fresh sea air. They are burning up inside those suits.

0:38:11.360 --> 0:38:17.640
<v Speaker 1>Hold on recovery is one by one. Neil, Buzz and

0:38:17.719 --> 0:38:24.480
<v Speaker 1>Michael are lifted into a hovering helicopter. As the helicopter

0:38:24.560 --> 0:38:26.839
<v Speaker 1>with the Apollo eleven crew begins making its way back

0:38:26.920 --> 0:38:28.800
<v Speaker 1>to the Hornet. John Wolfrem and the rest of the

0:38:28.880 --> 0:38:32.120
<v Speaker 1>Navy seals decided to grab a little memento of the occasion.

0:38:32.480 --> 0:38:34.759
<v Speaker 1>When no one was looking. We stripped off huns with

0:38:34.840 --> 0:38:38.680
<v Speaker 1>that gold coil that was burned off from coming back

0:38:39.320 --> 0:38:43.120
<v Speaker 1>through the atmosphere and put it down our website for souvenirs.

0:38:43.480 --> 0:38:45.719
<v Speaker 1>We knew that once the castle got out board the

0:38:45.840 --> 0:38:50.880
<v Speaker 1>usas Hornet Marine super Garden, so we got our souvenirs first.

0:38:51.320 --> 0:38:55.680
<v Speaker 1>Aboard the helicopter, Michael and Buzz stand precariously on unsteady legs.

0:38:56.040 --> 0:38:58.560
<v Speaker 1>Now that gravity is once again a factor, their body

0:38:58.600 --> 0:39:00.920
<v Speaker 1>fluids are moving in very different ways than they have

0:39:01.120 --> 0:39:04.560
<v Speaker 1>for the past week and a half. When the helicopter

0:39:04.680 --> 0:39:07.600
<v Speaker 1>touches down on the Hornet, the flight elevator descends to

0:39:07.680 --> 0:39:09.880
<v Speaker 1>the hangar deck, where the men are escorted to a

0:39:09.960 --> 0:39:14.160
<v Speaker 1>mobile quarantine chamber, a modified airstream trailer. Their face plates

0:39:14.200 --> 0:39:16.560
<v Speaker 1>are so fogg up they can hardly see anything, but

0:39:16.640 --> 0:39:19.480
<v Speaker 1>they can hear a band playing. They will remain in

0:39:19.560 --> 0:39:22.480
<v Speaker 1>this trailer until they reach the Lunar Receiving Laboratory in

0:39:22.560 --> 0:39:25.359
<v Speaker 1>Houston three days from now at which point they will

0:39:25.360 --> 0:39:28.239
<v Speaker 1>be transferred to a larger quarantine facility for the next

0:39:28.400 --> 0:39:33.200
<v Speaker 1>three weeks. Back in Houston, flight controllers begin lighting cigars

0:39:33.320 --> 0:39:37.320
<v Speaker 1>and waving small American flags above them. All glowing on

0:39:37.400 --> 0:39:40.280
<v Speaker 1>the main display screen are the words John F. Kennedy

0:39:40.360 --> 0:39:43.719
<v Speaker 1>uttered the Congress nearly ten years earlier. I believe that

0:39:43.880 --> 0:39:48.200
<v Speaker 1>this nation should commit itself to achieving the goal before

0:39:48.320 --> 0:39:51.080
<v Speaker 1>this decade is out of landing a man on the

0:39:51.160 --> 0:39:54.719
<v Speaker 1>Moon and returning him safely to the Earth. And so

0:39:55.000 --> 0:39:58.759
<v Speaker 1>this nation has locked inside the trailer with Neil, Buzz

0:39:58.800 --> 0:40:02.360
<v Speaker 1>and Michael are two NASA representatives, including a flight surgeon,

0:40:02.640 --> 0:40:05.120
<v Speaker 1>who gives each of the men a quick physical. Next,

0:40:05.239 --> 0:40:08.160
<v Speaker 1>they enjoy a quick but much needed shower while they

0:40:08.200 --> 0:40:10.880
<v Speaker 1>wait for the celebration outside to begin. The men are

0:40:10.880 --> 0:40:14.600
<v Speaker 1>shown several videos covering their landing and moonwalk. Buzz said

0:40:14.640 --> 0:40:18.120
<v Speaker 1>that they were sitting there watching these tapes and it

0:40:18.239 --> 0:40:22.600
<v Speaker 1>suddenly dawned on him that he and Neil and Mike

0:40:23.120 --> 0:40:27.640
<v Speaker 1>were removed from that. He turned to Neil and he said, Neil,

0:40:28.160 --> 0:40:30.800
<v Speaker 1>we missed the whole thing. The mood on the USS

0:40:30.880 --> 0:40:34.600
<v Speaker 1>hornet is jubilant. The mobile quarantine trailer is surrounded by

0:40:34.680 --> 0:40:38.440
<v Speaker 1>euphoric sailors and NASA personnel from the midst of the melee.

0:40:38.840 --> 0:40:42.120
<v Speaker 1>President Richard Nixon appears and greets the astronauts through a

0:40:42.239 --> 0:40:45.680
<v Speaker 1>large window. This is the greatest week and the history

0:40:45.719 --> 0:40:48.680
<v Speaker 1>of the world since the creation, because as a result

0:40:48.719 --> 0:40:51.960
<v Speaker 1>of what happened in this week, the world is bigger infinitely,

0:40:52.480 --> 0:40:55.319
<v Speaker 1>as a result of what you've done, the world has

0:40:55.320 --> 0:40:58.520
<v Speaker 1>never been closer together before. And we just thank you

0:40:58.680 --> 0:41:00.920
<v Speaker 1>for that, and I own I hope that all of

0:41:01.080 --> 0:41:04.120
<v Speaker 1>us in government, all of us in America, that as

0:41:04.160 --> 0:41:06.359
<v Speaker 1>a result of what you've done, we could do our

0:41:06.480 --> 0:41:09.000
<v Speaker 1>job a little better. We can reach for the stars,

0:41:09.120 --> 0:41:11.400
<v Speaker 1>just as you have raised so far from the stars.

0:41:11.800 --> 0:41:14.200
<v Speaker 1>The astronauts will later be treated to a state dinner

0:41:14.520 --> 0:41:17.600
<v Speaker 1>and Michael will finally get that Martini he's been craving.

0:41:20.520 --> 0:41:23.800
<v Speaker 1>In our first episode, I mentioned that humankind has always

0:41:23.880 --> 0:41:27.719
<v Speaker 1>been driven by an innate desire to explore. There are

0:41:28.560 --> 0:41:32.520
<v Speaker 1>times in human history when people have struck out beyond

0:41:33.000 --> 0:41:36.000
<v Speaker 1>the known universe, has gone over the next hill into

0:41:36.040 --> 0:41:38.800
<v Speaker 1>the next valley, got on a boat and cross the ocean.

0:41:39.400 --> 0:41:41.799
<v Speaker 1>And the Apollo program was one of those times when

0:41:41.960 --> 0:41:46.080
<v Speaker 1>people really and truly were exploring and pushing the boundaries

0:41:46.120 --> 0:41:49.600
<v Speaker 1>of human understanding and investigating new places that no one

0:41:49.680 --> 0:41:53.560
<v Speaker 1>had ever seen before. Once client, the unexplored hill on

0:41:53.600 --> 0:41:57.960
<v Speaker 1>the horizon now becomes familiar territory. But that's the thing

0:41:58.000 --> 0:42:02.120
<v Speaker 1>about exploration, isn't it. There's always another mountain, there's always

0:42:02.160 --> 0:42:05.520
<v Speaker 1>another horizon calling to us. Going to the Moon is

0:42:05.760 --> 0:42:08.960
<v Speaker 1>super important, but the ultimate goal is to go to Mars.

0:42:09.520 --> 0:42:13.960
<v Speaker 1>I think Mars is the next logical destination. I think

0:42:14.000 --> 0:42:16.400
<v Speaker 1>the Moon is absolutely in the critical path to get

0:42:16.480 --> 0:42:20.680
<v Speaker 1>to Mars. The next real advance of space flight is

0:42:20.760 --> 0:42:23.360
<v Speaker 1>to go back to the Moon. And then used the

0:42:23.560 --> 0:42:27.480
<v Speaker 1>architecture of going to the Moon and expanded to go

0:42:27.600 --> 0:42:32.319
<v Speaker 1>to Mars. And I'm positive that man, one day we'll

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<v Speaker 1>go to Bars. Why because it's there. Robert Zubran was

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<v Speaker 1>five years old when spot Nick flew, and while to

0:42:39.880 --> 0:42:42.919
<v Speaker 1>the adults it may have been terrifying, to me as

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<v Speaker 1>a small kid, it was exhilarating. It meant that these

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<v Speaker 1>stories that I was already reading about this space faring

0:42:49.960 --> 0:42:53.920
<v Speaker 1>future science fiction, we're going to be true, and I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to be part of it. Robert is an aerospace engineer,

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<v Speaker 1>the president of the Mars Society and the author of

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<v Speaker 1>the The case for Mars. I was seventeen when we

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<v Speaker 1>landed on the Moon. And if anybody had told me

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<v Speaker 1>then that I'd be sixty seven and we wouldn't be

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<v Speaker 1>on the Moon, and in fact on Mars, I would

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<v Speaker 1>have thought they were crazy. Apollo was the last to

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<v Speaker 1>rob the people that won World War Two and a

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<v Speaker 1>political class that could work together to accomplish great ends,

0:43:20.000 --> 0:43:23.280
<v Speaker 1>whether it was World War Two, the Interstate Highway system,

0:43:23.800 --> 0:43:28.120
<v Speaker 1>the development in nuclear energy, or Apollo. What great accomplishments

0:43:28.160 --> 0:43:32.799
<v Speaker 1>has the US government achieved since three Without a goal,

0:43:32.880 --> 0:43:35.759
<v Speaker 1>you don't achieve anything, and the human spaceflight program has

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<v Speaker 1>been drifting for almost fifty years. Apollo inspired Americans, showing

0:43:43.440 --> 0:43:46.520
<v Speaker 1>them that they were capable of doing great things. It

0:43:46.680 --> 0:43:50.160
<v Speaker 1>motivated tens of thousands of people to go into engineering,

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<v Speaker 1>and was the bedrock on which our modern computerized and

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<v Speaker 1>technological world is based. But for Zubrin, we are living

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<v Speaker 1>off of Apollo's favors. Just days after Apollo eleven returned

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<v Speaker 1>to Earth, Verni von Braun, the architect of the Saturn five,

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<v Speaker 1>began drawing up plans for a Mars mission for Robert

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<v Speaker 1>and many in the space industry. We should have listened

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<v Speaker 1>to von Braun. We never should have abandoned the Moon,

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<v Speaker 1>but rather used it as an outward bound school where

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<v Speaker 1>we could learn to live off planet, honing our skills

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<v Speaker 1>for our next trek into the unknown Mars. For Zubrin,

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<v Speaker 1>there are three reasons to go to Mars. For the science,

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<v Speaker 1>for the challenge, and for the future the science. There's

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<v Speaker 1>profound science to be discovered by going to Mars. Mars

0:44:39.280 --> 0:44:41.640
<v Speaker 1>was once a warm and wet planet. The early Mars

0:44:41.719 --> 0:44:43.839
<v Speaker 1>was very similar to the early Earth. I mean, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>convinced that there was once life on Mars and there

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<v Speaker 1>probably still is. Second is the challenge. I believe that

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<v Speaker 1>civilizations are like individuals. We grow when we challenge ourselves,

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<v Speaker 1>we stagnate when we do not. And then finally, there's

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<v Speaker 1>the future. If we do what we can do in

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<v Speaker 1>our time, which has established that first human foothold on Mars,

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<v Speaker 1>then you know, five years from now there will be

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<v Speaker 1>new branches of human civilization. And we're talking about new nations,

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<v Speaker 1>new cultures, new languages, new literatures, new traditions, new contributions

0:45:17.680 --> 0:45:22.000
<v Speaker 1>to technology and invention and social thought, new heroes, new

0:45:22.080 --> 0:45:24.560
<v Speaker 1>tales of great deeds that will be used to inspire

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<v Speaker 1>people that will go further. And if you have it

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<v Speaker 1>in your power to create something brand and wonderful, then

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<v Speaker 1>you should. Robert believes this so strongly that he thinks

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<v Speaker 1>NASA should skip the Moon and divert all of its

0:45:37.680 --> 0:45:41.000
<v Speaker 1>energies to Mars. We're not going to fully inspire the

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<v Speaker 1>next generation of youth by replicating a feat done by

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<v Speaker 1>their grandparents generation. We're going to inspire them by going

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<v Speaker 1>to a new world to do what has been done before,

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<v Speaker 1>to see what hasn't been seen before, to discover what

0:45:55.440 --> 0:45:58.399
<v Speaker 1>was never known before. That's why we're gonna to Mars,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's why this fool inspire of the next generation.

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<v Speaker 1>And yet I hear some of you asking what about

0:46:03.640 --> 0:46:06.440
<v Speaker 1>our problems back here on Earth. As we discussed on

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<v Speaker 1>the outside of this podcast, the America of nineteen sixty

0:46:09.760 --> 0:46:13.160
<v Speaker 1>nine bears an uncomfortable resemblance to the America of two

0:46:13.239 --> 0:46:18.080
<v Speaker 1>thousand and nineteen. For every York Pennsylvania, there's a Ferguson Missouri.

0:46:18.800 --> 0:46:23.520
<v Speaker 1>For every Vietnam, there's Afghanistan. For every Cold War, there's

0:46:23.600 --> 0:46:26.719
<v Speaker 1>Russian meddling in our elections. For every looming impeachment of

0:46:26.800 --> 0:46:30.239
<v Speaker 1>Richard Nixon, there's a looming impeachment of Donald Trump. For

0:46:30.320 --> 0:46:33.480
<v Speaker 1>every protest in favor of civil liberties, voting rights, and

0:46:33.560 --> 0:46:38.440
<v Speaker 1>equal pay, there's well, you know, and now we're setting

0:46:38.480 --> 0:46:41.720
<v Speaker 1>our sights on the moon and beyond. Are we fools

0:46:41.800 --> 0:46:45.480
<v Speaker 1>to try this again? The criticisms leveled by civil rights

0:46:45.600 --> 0:46:48.240
<v Speaker 1>leaders who protested all of the money spent on Apollo

0:46:48.480 --> 0:46:51.759
<v Speaker 1>at the expense of the nation's most vulnerable remain both

0:46:51.920 --> 0:46:56.800
<v Speaker 1>valid and omnipresent. Today, fifty years on, not much appears

0:46:56.880 --> 0:47:00.520
<v Speaker 1>to have changed. And yet I'm reminded of the words

0:47:00.560 --> 0:47:03.680
<v Speaker 1>of NASA's Bill Dunford, who said, why should we worry

0:47:03.719 --> 0:47:06.440
<v Speaker 1>about what's going on outside the cave? We have so

0:47:06.520 --> 0:47:09.760
<v Speaker 1>many problems here inside the cave. Why should we waste

0:47:09.800 --> 0:47:12.759
<v Speaker 1>time trying to figure out agriculture. We have so much

0:47:12.800 --> 0:47:15.560
<v Speaker 1>work to do hunting and gathering. Why should we spend

0:47:15.640 --> 0:47:18.480
<v Speaker 1>so much effort messing about in boats? We have so

0:47:18.640 --> 0:47:21.759
<v Speaker 1>many issues right here on land. Why should we fiddle

0:47:21.840 --> 0:47:25.080
<v Speaker 1>with those computers. There's so much calculating that still needs

0:47:25.120 --> 0:47:28.760
<v Speaker 1>to be done with these pencils. Why should we explore space?

0:47:29.719 --> 0:47:33.440
<v Speaker 1>We have so many problems right here on Earth? It's

0:47:33.480 --> 0:47:37.640
<v Speaker 1>all about how we prioritize our future. After all, NASA's

0:47:37.960 --> 0:47:41.120
<v Speaker 1>entire fifty year budget is roughly equal to what this

0:47:41.239 --> 0:47:46.080
<v Speaker 1>country spends on its military in just one year. Historically,

0:47:46.440 --> 0:47:51.640
<v Speaker 1>NASA's grandest steps have stimulated our economy, supercharged our innovation,

0:47:52.120 --> 0:47:57.759
<v Speaker 1>created astonishing spinoff technologies, broadened our science, inspired new generations

0:47:57.840 --> 0:48:00.839
<v Speaker 1>with new opportunities, and remind at us to look up

0:48:00.880 --> 0:48:04.400
<v Speaker 1>from our domestic squabbles and take in the cosmic perspective.

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<v Speaker 1>Asking if space exploration is a sensible use of our

0:48:08.040 --> 0:48:11.880
<v Speaker 1>money is a reasonable and rational question, but it cannot

0:48:11.920 --> 0:48:16.080
<v Speaker 1>be the only question. We must also ask what everything

0:48:16.120 --> 0:48:19.440
<v Speaker 1>we've learned and everything we've derived been possible without it?

0:48:20.360 --> 0:48:25.240
<v Speaker 1>Would our revolutions in computing and communications, in medicine and transportation,

0:48:25.680 --> 0:48:30.839
<v Speaker 1>in astrophysics and planetary sciences come about without Apollo? Would

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<v Speaker 1>we understand our own planet, including the peril it's in

0:48:33.960 --> 0:48:36.759
<v Speaker 1>right now because of our thoughtlessness, if we had not

0:48:37.000 --> 0:48:41.560
<v Speaker 1>dared to step off world. Beyond the political victories and

0:48:41.640 --> 0:48:46.320
<v Speaker 1>the scientific insights, the Space program gave a mangled America hope,

0:48:46.880 --> 0:48:51.200
<v Speaker 1>hope that a better future is within reach. Throughout our history,

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<v Speaker 1>from the Mayflower to the modern refugee crisis. Humans have

0:48:55.160 --> 0:48:58.400
<v Speaker 1>left the safe or the familiar to undertake a bold

0:48:58.480 --> 0:49:01.759
<v Speaker 1>mission to a new world old, and we can do

0:49:01.880 --> 0:49:07.080
<v Speaker 1>it again. Before Explorer George Mallory departed to scale matt Everest,

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<v Speaker 1>he was asked why he was undertaking such a difficult

0:49:10.440 --> 0:49:14.839
<v Speaker 1>and perilous quest, because it is there. He answered, well,

0:49:14.920 --> 0:49:18.200
<v Speaker 1>space is there, and we're going to climb it, and

0:49:18.320 --> 0:49:21.360
<v Speaker 1>the moon and the planet Sada and new hopes for

0:49:21.480 --> 0:49:25.080
<v Speaker 1>knowledge and peace of THEA. And therefore, as we set sail,

0:49:26.160 --> 0:49:30.200
<v Speaker 1>we asked God's blessing on the most hazardous and dangerous

0:49:30.760 --> 0:49:38.160
<v Speaker 1>and greatest adventure on which man has ever invoked. During

0:49:38.160 --> 0:49:40.600
<v Speaker 1>the cruise voyage back to the United States, aboard the

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<v Speaker 1>U S. S. Hornet, Michael excused himself and left his colleagues.

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<v Speaker 1>The Columbia had been connected to the mobile quarantine facility

0:49:48.160 --> 0:49:51.120
<v Speaker 1>by an air tight tunnel, and Michael claimed aboard alone,

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<v Speaker 1>taking it all in one last time. The Apollo eleven

0:49:55.160 --> 0:49:59.520
<v Speaker 1>mission lasted one and nine hours, eighteen minutes and thirty

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<v Speaker 1>five and in that time the ship traveled nearly one

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<v Speaker 1>million miles. Michael pulled a pen from his pocket and,

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<v Speaker 1>in an act understood by anyone who has ever wanted

0:50:10.520 --> 0:50:13.399
<v Speaker 1>to ensure that they are remembered for something they did

0:50:13.640 --> 0:50:17.040
<v Speaker 1>or saw, scribbled the following graffiti on one of the

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<v Speaker 1>command modules Equipment Bay Panels Apollo eleven alias Columbia, the

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<v Speaker 1>best ship to come down the line. God bless her

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<v Speaker 1>Michael Collins, Command Module Pilot. That note and the vessel

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<v Speaker 1>it adorns now rest in the lobby of the Smithsonian's

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<v Speaker 1>Air and Space Museum in Washington, d C. A tangible

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<v Speaker 1>testament to nine extraordinary days in July. This podcast is

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<v Speaker 1>a production of I Heart Radio and Trade Traft Studios,

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<v Speaker 1>executive producers Astroea and Scott Bernstein, in association with High

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<v Speaker 1>Five Content and executive brucer Andrew Jacobs. This spectacular series

0:51:01.760 --> 0:51:05.759
<v Speaker 1>was his brilliant idea, amazing research and prorection assistance by

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<v Speaker 1>associate producers Brian Schasso and Natalie Robomed. Our incredible editor

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<v Speaker 1>is Bill Lance. Original music by Henry ben Wa, Licensing

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<v Speaker 1>rights and clearances by Deborah Correa. Special thanks also to

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<v Speaker 1>consultant Gina Delvac Studio space generously provided by Gabby and

0:51:24.440 --> 0:51:27.960
<v Speaker 1>Helen Phibbs, the experts who contributed to this final episode

0:51:28.280 --> 0:51:32.719
<v Speaker 1>where Andy Aldred Navy seal John Wolfram, journalist Chris Davenport,

0:51:33.000 --> 0:51:36.680
<v Speaker 1>author of the Space Barons, NASA Chief historian Bill Berry,

0:51:37.200 --> 0:51:39.719
<v Speaker 1>Andrew Chaikin, the author of A Man on the Moon,

0:51:40.239 --> 0:51:43.200
<v Speaker 1>Robert Zubrin, the author of The Case for Space and

0:51:43.480 --> 0:51:47.040
<v Speaker 1>The Case for Mars. Space historian Amy Shearer title the

0:51:47.160 --> 0:51:51.000
<v Speaker 1>author of Fighting for Space out later this month, Apollo thirteens,

0:51:51.040 --> 0:51:55.160
<v Speaker 1>Jim Lovell, Apollo seventeens, Harris and Schmidt, and current NASA

0:51:55.200 --> 0:51:59.480
<v Speaker 1>astronaut Tracy Calledwell Dyson. In addition to the works just mentioned,

0:51:59.760 --> 0:52:03.800
<v Speaker 1>the following books were essential in shaping this series. Carrying

0:52:03.840 --> 0:52:08.440
<v Speaker 1>the Fire by Michael Collins, Magnificent Desolation by Buzz Aldren,

0:52:08.920 --> 0:52:12.480
<v Speaker 1>Failure Is Not An Option by Gene Krantz, First Man

0:52:12.760 --> 0:52:15.640
<v Speaker 1>by James Hansen, and Two Sides of the Move by

0:52:15.680 --> 0:52:19.600
<v Speaker 1>Alexei Leonov and David Scott. This podcast would have been

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<v Speaker 1>impossible without the profound assistance of so many people at NASA,

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<v Speaker 1>people like Bert Ulrich, Sandra Johnson, Brandy Dean, Gregory Wiseman,

0:52:29.680 --> 0:52:33.960
<v Speaker 1>and Stephanie Sherrolds. NASA's Apollo eleven Flight Journal, compiled by

0:52:34.080 --> 0:52:39.320
<v Speaker 1>David Woods, Ken mctaggard and Frank O'Brien was absolutely indispensable,

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<v Speaker 1>and of course, the incredible technological wizardry of consulting producer

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<v Speaker 1>Ben Feist, who is responsible for organizing and cleaning the

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<v Speaker 1>eleven thousand hours of mission audio you heard selections from

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<v Speaker 1>in this podcast. Lastly, I want to acknowledge I Heart's

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