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Speaker 1: on The Buck Sexton Show. This is the bus Sexton Show,

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Speaker 1: great guy. No, Welcome to the Buck Sexton Show, coming

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Buck sexon show he boils a brother chields. Ye, brother,

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Speaker 1: the universal basic income would serve the purpose of pay.

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Speaker 1: But that's not really even accurate because if everyone's getting paid,

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Speaker 1: you're not getting paid for being in the home. You're

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Speaker 1: just getting paid for breathing exactly. And frankly, I'm at

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Speaker 1: fifty two years old, I have figured out. How did

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Speaker 1: you think nf I stopped thinking now and being a

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Speaker 1: productive human being. I am still light years ahead of

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Speaker 1: his crappy a little behind managing to come close to

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Speaker 1: my baby finger. I gotta tell you, Jody, it sounds

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Speaker 1: like you are not joining the Yang Gang anytime soon. No,

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Speaker 1: not not part of the yangeg all right, Jody Schiel,

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Speaker 1: thank you for calling it from Utah. He's not, dude,

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Speaker 1: not on team Yangyo. Producer Mike, you have to vote

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Speaker 1: for a Democrat based on what we've seen so far.

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Speaker 1: Have to no, you know, no opt out, no pass

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Speaker 1: who you vote for? Uh, Delaney, it's easy, Delaney, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there were Producer Mark, Producer Mark, you are you are

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Speaker 1: locked in. You cannot escape. We will hold you down

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Speaker 1: until you vote for a Democrat. Who is it? I'm

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Speaker 1: just gonna make you angry, and said Bill de Blasio.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, someone's gonna get a code red. I'm

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Speaker 1: not ordering the code red right now. I'm just saying

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Speaker 1: if someone gets a code read, maybe they deserved it.

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Speaker 1: Producer Mike so Yeah, de Blasi. One thing I liked

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Speaker 1: about the Blasio is that everyone kind of joins it.

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Speaker 1: Even Democrats join in the Deblasio. Hey, They're like, well,

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Speaker 1: this guy's a total cloud. Why is he running that?

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Speaker 1: My favorite question about Bill de Blasio is how did

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Speaker 1: he become Mayor of New York Because people really are

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Speaker 1: befuddled in a way that it is. You get into

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Speaker 1: Anthony Weiner and the you know, the Wiener photos and

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Speaker 1: all that stuff, and that's how you that's how you

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Speaker 1: figure it out. But it's a wild time. Oh we

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Speaker 1: were talking about crazy and there was a whole bunch

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Speaker 1: of this stuff, for example, and I knew this was

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Speaker 1: gonna happen. Here we are in year three of the

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Speaker 1: Trump presidency, and I don't think there's a human being

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Speaker 1: out there. I don't think you could find one who

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Speaker 1: would say that if the economy were really bad, Trump

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Speaker 1: would not be blamed for that economy, right, we all

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Speaker 1: know that. And if you said, well, Trump inherited a week,

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Speaker 1: you know, systemic weaknesses in the economy from Obama for

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Speaker 1: his over spending and lack of blah blah, you know

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Speaker 1: that would you'd be laughed out of the room. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 1: the economy is doing very well by all metrics, and

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Speaker 1: there was even an important piece in the Wall Street Journal,

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Speaker 1: I think it was yesterday talking about how wages, which

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Speaker 1: have been stagnant for a long time, wages have actually

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Speaker 1: gone up for working people. That's in real terms. You know,

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Speaker 1: Americans have gotten a raise, working people have gotten not

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Speaker 1: just not just the tax cut, this is real economic

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Speaker 1: growth in and wages measuring that. So that doesn't nearly

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Speaker 1: get enough attention. But here we are now being told that, oh,

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Speaker 1: that the really good economy. You can't you can't thank

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Speaker 1: Trump for that. That's here's Julian Castro making a case

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Speaker 1: that I knew somebody would make, but I didn't think that. Well, no,

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Speaker 1: I knew they'd do this, but it's hard to believe

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Speaker 1: even when you're expecting it, that it's it's the Barack

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Speaker 1: Obama economy. Folks, play clip one there are a lot

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Speaker 1: of Americans right now that are hurting. The idea that

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Speaker 1: America is doing just fine is wrong. Not only that

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Speaker 1: this president always likes to take credit like he did this.

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Speaker 1: We've now had about one hundred and five straight months

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Speaker 1: of positive job growth, the longest streak in American history.

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Speaker 1: Over eighty months of that was due to President Barack Obama.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Barack Obama. Thank you Barack Obama. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's a really fun exercise when Democrats say this stuff.

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Speaker 1: You say, what did Barack Obama do? The stimulus? No

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Speaker 1: one thinks the stimulus really did any of this, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean, no one really believes that the stimulus saved

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Speaker 1: the economy, do they. That's different from the bank bailout.

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Speaker 1: That's a different thing. They often get conflated together. Well,

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Speaker 1: what did what did Barack Obama do? Emergency measures things

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Speaker 1: like extending will they increase food stamps by I forget

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Speaker 1: how I think it was. I don't want to say,

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Speaker 1: maybe six or seven million people under Obama's time. They

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Speaker 1: extended unemployment insurance. There were some things they did that

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Speaker 1: were emergency measures. Measures as yours speak English, Buck, you're

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Speaker 1: a radio host. But if you ask a liberal. They'll

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Speaker 1: explain to you why this would still be Obama's economy.

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Speaker 1: And then you say, you ask them, if it were

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Speaker 1: a bad economy, would it still be Obama's economy. They never,

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Speaker 1: It's like you've short circuit of the system. They never

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Speaker 1: really can give you a real answer. Oh wait, wait,

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Speaker 1: since we talked about de Blasio before and what a

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Speaker 1: loon he is and how utterly and completely unlikable. Look,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna be de Blasio is about to be my

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Speaker 1: mayor again. Within the next thirty days, Deblasio will be

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Speaker 1: the mayor of the city I live in, which is

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Speaker 1: a hard thing to fathom. But here was de Blasio

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Speaker 1: last I mean, he just I guess he figures he's

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Speaker 1: got no chance of being president really, so why not

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Speaker 1: just give speeches that shore up his social justice warrior credentials.

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Speaker 1: He's got the unions in his pocket that he needs

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Speaker 1: in New York, He's got the the political machinery of

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Speaker 1: New York City backing him, So he's I guess he

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Speaker 1: thinks he can get away with being crazy in at

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Speaker 1: some level He's right. So here's the kind of stuff

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Speaker 1: that Bill de Blasier furmly Zekaiser Varnvillehelm Barnville Halm was

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Speaker 1: his name. Yeah, you remember guten Tag. Here he is

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Speaker 1: play four. We can make change in this country. I

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Speaker 1: know from personal experience it can be done. When I

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Speaker 1: became the mayor of the nation's largest city, I set

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Speaker 1: us on a path of bold change. They said it

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Speaker 1: couldn't be done. But we gave precaide every child for free.

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Speaker 1: We got rid of stop in frisk and we lowered crime.

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Speaker 1: We raise the minimum wage of fifteen dollars an hour. Yes,

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Speaker 1: it can be done. When I'm president, we will even

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Speaker 1: up the score, and we will tax the hell out

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Speaker 1: of the wealthy to make this a fairer country and

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Speaker 1: to make sure it's a country that puts working people first. That,

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Speaker 1: my friends, is the unvarnished, pure class warfare at the

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Speaker 1: heart of the Democratic Party's message. We will tax the

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Speaker 1: hell out of the wealthy. Who's the wealthy, by the way,

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Speaker 1: but put that aside for a moment. We're going to

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Speaker 1: tax the hell out of Americans so that other people

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Speaker 1: who are leftists, who are Democrats supporters and voters, will

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Speaker 1: feel better about their situation. That's making it a fairer country.

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Speaker 1: This was a sentiment that Obama himself expressed at one point,

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Speaker 1: even if it was going to hurt the economy, you

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Speaker 1: got to raise taxes because it's the right thing to do,

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Speaker 1: even out the score. Push somebody down a little bit,

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Speaker 1: don't worry about pushing somebody else up. Don't worry about

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Speaker 1: lifting everybody up. Push somebody else down. Who's got a

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Speaker 1: too big it's gone a little things have gone a

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Speaker 1: little too well for them. This is a dangerous political sentiment.

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Speaker 1: It creates a tremendous well. It really feeds off of

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Speaker 1: a tremendous resentment and creates more resentment. And this is

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Speaker 1: not just a Blasio's approach. This is now a mainstream

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Speaker 1: feeling in the Democratic Party. Despite all the billionaires, the

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Speaker 1: Hollywood celebrities, the super rich lawyers, the super rich Wall

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Speaker 1: Street guys who are Democrats, there's tons of them right

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Speaker 1: there's you look at the biggest wealthiest names in the country,

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Speaker 1: most of them are Democrats. The ones that come to mind.

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Speaker 1: You look at the the Bloombergs and the Gates and

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Speaker 1: the go down Steve I was gonna say, Steve Jobs,

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Speaker 1: pardon me m, Amazon founder Bezos, Bezos, thank you. Look

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Speaker 1: at all these big number. They're all they're all they're

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Speaker 1: all Libs. But the millionaires and the billionaires, they're all Republicans,

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Speaker 1: according to burn I, And this is just a this

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Speaker 1: is a delusion. This is a story that liberals tell

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Speaker 1: themselves at night as as a bedtime story, that all

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Speaker 1: the bad rich people are Republicans somehow. Meanwhile, who who

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Speaker 1: delivered Trump his electoral victory. It was predominantly white working

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Speaker 1: class voters who had voted for Obama before. And just

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Speaker 1: we're like, this isn't a good deal for us right

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Speaker 1: now at this Democratic part, We're gonna do something else.

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Speaker 1: We've got so much more. I've got to get into

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Speaker 1: the immigration stuff, because you know that's very top of

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Speaker 1: mine for me. We've just begun to scratch the surface

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Speaker 1: of the crazy here, and then I've got some other

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Speaker 1: stories to get to. The are not just debate related.

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Speaker 1: The doj is saying that they will not prosecute Komey.

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Speaker 1: That's up today. And then also a story that I

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Speaker 1: want to walk you through on whether police shootings are

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Speaker 1: in fact racist or not. We'll get to that. Stay

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Speaker 1: with me. The important number and Vice President Biden's remarks

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Speaker 1: us now is that the United States is only fifteen

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Speaker 1: percent of global emissions. We like to act as if

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Speaker 1: we're one hundred percent. But the truth is, even if

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Speaker 1: we were to curb our emissions dramatically, garth is still

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Speaker 1: going to get warmer, and we can see it around

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Speaker 1: us this summer. The last four years have been the

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Speaker 1: four warmest years in recorded history. This is going to

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Speaker 1: be a tough truth. But we are too late. We

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Speaker 1: are ten years too late. We need to do everything

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Speaker 1: we can to start moving to climate in the right direction,

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Speaker 1: but we also need to start moving our people to

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Speaker 1: hire ground. And the best way to do that is

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Speaker 1: to put economic resources into your hands so you can

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Speaker 1: protect yourself and your families. What the heck is Yang

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Speaker 1: talking about here? That is quite a quite a movie pulls.

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Speaker 1: He goes from it's too late and we're only a portionate.

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Speaker 1: So he's right about some things. He's Yang is smart

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Speaker 1: enough to understand that no matter what we do, India, China,

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Speaker 1: other developing other major developing economies, you know, Mexico, Brazil,

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Speaker 1: big countries all over the world, they're not going to

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Speaker 1: curb their emissions no matter what they tell us. They're

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Speaker 1: not going to put artificial constraints on their growth in

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Speaker 1: their economy. There's no way Chinese, please, you can care less.

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Speaker 1: I was in Beijing a few months ago. Let me

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Speaker 1: tell you they've got no problem with smog over there,

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Speaker 1: lots of that getting pumped out of the smokestacks. So

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Speaker 1: even if we listen to the Democrats, it's it's all

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Speaker 1: for naught. But then he goes to the problem is

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Speaker 1: he understands that truth and then he thinks that you

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Speaker 1: start moving the higher ground. Like I've told you this before,

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Speaker 1: I will change my tune on climate change the moment

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Speaker 1: that somebody will sell me their beach front. I'm here

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Speaker 1: in Los Angeles, I'm taking I'll take any offers. Or rather, well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I guess it'll be an offer. Somebody wants to sell

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Speaker 1: me their beachfront Malibu property at at a fraction of

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Speaker 1: the current market rate. I don't mean like, you know,

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Speaker 1: a ten percent marked down, I mean like fifty I

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Speaker 1: still couldn't afford it, but I'd cobble together the money

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Speaker 1: from from investors, because if you sold it to me

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Speaker 1: at fifty percent discount, you're crazy because the cs are

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Speaker 1: not rising that much. This is not happening, folks, It's

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Speaker 1: not happening. Yang understands that the people that are claiming

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Speaker 1: we're gonna have some glorious war against climate change, they don't.

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Speaker 1: Even even if we did, if we accept the world

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Speaker 1: as they view it, even if we did exactly what

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Speaker 1: they want us to do, it would not matter using

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Speaker 1: their own numbers, logic and the parameters they've set up.

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Speaker 1: This is how nonsensical the climate change catastrophists are. It

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Speaker 1: won't make any difference. And yet here I am telling

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Speaker 1: you this. Am I worried at all? No, I am

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Speaker 1: not worried. It's all going to be fine. Mister Yang

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Speaker 1: over here is trying to tell the Yang gang to

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Speaker 1: go to higher ground. I do not think it is

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Speaker 1: time to sell your home and head to the top

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Speaker 1: of the rockies yet, folks, I think, although that might

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Speaker 1: be kind of a nice view, I think we're all

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Speaker 1: going to be just fine. Criminal justice, big criminal justice

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Speaker 1: exchange that I want to get to with the Tulsi

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Speaker 1: Gabbert and Kamala Harris. Did Tulsi kind of knock Kamala

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Speaker 1: off the runner up establishment post last night? We'll get

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Speaker 1: to that criminal justice flash last night on the Democrat

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Speaker 1: debate stage. Very interesting stuff. So just by way a

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Speaker 1: quick review. You remember, Kamala Harris seemed to show that

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Speaker 1: the Biden candidacy was not inevitable because she took Biden

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Speaker 1: down quite a bit with her I think unfair attacks

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Speaker 1: on him for his position on bussing. But we've dealt

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Speaker 1: with that already. On the show last night, there was

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Speaker 1: a sense that there would be a showdown between Kamala

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Speaker 1: and Biden again. But it turns out the real showdown. Well,

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Speaker 1: everybody was trying to pile on Biden, but didn't. Really,

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Speaker 1: they didn't. They weren't successful. Biden had a good night, folks.

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Speaker 1: I'm just being honest. He had a good night. That

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Speaker 1: doesn't mean that he's out of the woods, but he

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Speaker 1: definitely held his turf. But Kamala and Tulsi tangled quite

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Speaker 1: a bit. Here is Tulsie Gabbard who this was one

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Speaker 1: of the most memorable. Look this is Democrat on democrat fighting, folks.

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Speaker 1: What could be more entertaining. Here's Tulsi letting it be

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Speaker 1: known that she does not agree with Kamala's previous approach

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Speaker 1: as a state attorney in California. Play nine. Peter Harris

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Speaker 1: says she's proud of her record as a prosecutor in

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Speaker 1: cocuter president, but I'm deeply concerned about this record. There

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Speaker 1: are too many examples to site. But she put over

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Speaker 1: fifteen hundred people in jail for marijuana violations and then

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Speaker 1: laughed about it when she was asked if she ever

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Speaker 1: smoked marijuana, de block evidence that would have freed an

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Speaker 1: innocent man from death row until the courts forced her

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Speaker 1: to do so. She kept people in prison beyond their

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Speaker 1: sentences to use them as cheap labor for the state

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Speaker 1: of California, And she fought to keep fail system in

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Speaker 1: place that impacts poor people in the worst kind of way.

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Speaker 1: When you were in a position to make a difference

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Speaker 1: and an impact in these people's lives, you did not.

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Speaker 1: And worse yet, in the case of those who were

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Speaker 1: on death row, innocent people, you actually blocked evidence from

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Speaker 1: being revealed that would have freed them until you were

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Speaker 1: forced to do so. There is no excuse for that.

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Speaker 1: And the people who suffered under your reign as prosecutor, oh,

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Speaker 1: you owe them an apology. There is no excuse for that.

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Speaker 1: Is that all true or all of those things that

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Speaker 1: Tulsie Gabbard said about Kamala Harris true. I think we

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Speaker 1: should know. I can tell you this Kamala from my

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Speaker 1: sources in the Lib media, of which I have quite

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Speaker 1: a few, she's the favorite. Now, we discussed how Jeff Zucker,

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Speaker 1: who's giving orders to all the other commissars over at

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Speaker 1: CNN on a regular basis. We discussed how Zucker had

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Speaker 1: already come forward and presented Kamala as important for the

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Speaker 1: entire country. So we know that there is an establishment

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Speaker 1: desire to elevate Kamala, establishment liberal desire in the media

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Speaker 1: and on the coast for sure. And if Biden falters,

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Speaker 1: Kamala is supposed to take the spot, I mean, you know,

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Speaker 1: Booker would like to be. But nah, I don't see it.

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Speaker 1: I don't. I just don't think Booker's I don't think

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Speaker 1: he's got it. First of all, he complained last night.

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Speaker 1: The two funniest complaints from last night of all were

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Speaker 1: Corey Booker saying that this debate was pitting Democrats against

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Speaker 1: each other. Yeah, dude, it's a debate among Democrats. Good call,

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Speaker 1: Corey Booker. And then also a few different we don't

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Speaker 1: I don't think we have a montage of it, had

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Speaker 1: any but there are a few different times when Democrats

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Speaker 1: who felt like they were a little corner, Well, it's

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Speaker 1: a Republican talking point. Stop with the Republican talking points. Uh, well,

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Speaker 1: shouldn't you If it is a Republican talking point, shouldn't

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Speaker 1: you have the answer for it, because you're gonna face

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Speaker 1: a Republican eventually. That shouldn't be a get out of

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Speaker 1: jail free card. Oh, it's a Republican talking point. But

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Speaker 1: you certainly heard a lot of that anyway. So Tulsi

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Speaker 1: went after Kamala Harris and the est ablishment today. From

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Speaker 1: what I understand, the liberal establishment is very upset about this.

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Speaker 1: I've even seen something I'm trying to track some of

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Speaker 1: this down, some some scuttle butt on Twitter about people saying, Okay,

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Speaker 1: they're saying crazy stuff. They're going after Tulsea on the

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Speaker 1: whole Assad thing. Basically they're trying to the liberal establishment

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Speaker 1: does not like Tulsi Gabbert, which makes me like her

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Speaker 1: a little bit more. That and I like the way

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Speaker 1: she says Hawaii. I can't even really say it the

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Speaker 1: way she's said Hawaii. You know, Hawaii. She says a

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Speaker 1: little differently, like a like a native Hawaiian. I'm gonna stop,

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Speaker 1: stop talking about all the great stuff about Tulsea Gabbert.

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Speaker 1: So she went after Kamala Harris, and then Kamala got

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Speaker 1: an opportunity to try to explain what had happened to

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Speaker 1: her because she got I think she got kind of

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Speaker 1: blindsided by the whole thing. She wasn't she didn't seem

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Speaker 1: ready for it at all, and she didn't refute it.

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Speaker 1: Those are serious charges, folks. Suppressed evidence of a person

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Speaker 1: on death row. That's not a little thing. Send people

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Speaker 1: to prison for marijuana when you're so if it's smokemurwana

729
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Speaker 1: think it's kind of funny. And who cares? Used labor

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Speaker 1: for the benefit of the state for people in prison,

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Speaker 1: and kept them in prison longer to use that labor.

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Speaker 1: I mean, these are those are real deal charges. That's

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Speaker 1: not oh, you know you said this in a campaign

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Speaker 1: ad fifteen years ago. That's a like who cares. For

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Speaker 1: the most part, these are real decisions that are being

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Speaker 1: called out that she made when she had she had

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Speaker 1: power in the state of California. Here's how she tried

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Speaker 1: to explain herself. Play clip ten. And this is going

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Speaker 1: to sound immodest, but I'm obviously a top tier candidate,

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Speaker 1: and so I did expect that I would be on

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Speaker 1: the stage and take hits tonight, because there are a

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Speaker 1: lot of people that are trying to make the stage

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Speaker 1: for the next debate. For a lot of them, it's

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Speaker 1: Stewart die Well. Yeah, and especially when people are at

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Speaker 1: zero one percent or whatever she might be at. And

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Speaker 1: so I did expect that I might take hits tonight,

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Speaker 1: and yet didn't explain that away, didn't didn't manage to

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Speaker 1: tell us all that she had an answer ready for

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Speaker 1: all these different charges. I mean, I think I think

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Speaker 1: we need answers on that stuff, or at least people

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Speaker 1: that are going to be voting in democratic primaries don't.

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Speaker 1: Don't they deserve an answer. So so she, you know,

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Speaker 1: has the media in her corner. And this is what

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Speaker 1: I meant by pay very close attention to who the

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Speaker 1: journals won on their side, pay very close attention to

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Speaker 1: who the journals are supporting, because even among Democrats, they

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Speaker 1: have they have favorites among their children, so to speak.

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Speaker 1: Democrat journals are picking different members of this of this

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Speaker 1: race that they really want to see get all the

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Speaker 1: way through. And so you need you need to remember

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Speaker 1: that as they're giving you all this coverage but then

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Speaker 1: you had Tulsi backstage. May this because she she gets

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Speaker 1: attacked by them for this, uh, for the meeting she

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Speaker 1: had with what was it again with a sad some

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Speaker 1: years ago. Do we I don't think we have that clip?

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Speaker 1: Darn it? Oh no, yes, on MSNBC, they went after her.

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Speaker 1: This is what they tend to do. The only thing

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Speaker 1: that you ever get to asked about by the mainstream

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Speaker 1: press is Assad in Syria and this was no different.

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you. They don't they She's not part of

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Speaker 1: their crew. The elite media doesn't like Tulsi play sixteen.

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Speaker 1: So when sitting down with someone like Bashar al Assad

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Speaker 1: in Syria, do you confront him directly and say, why

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Speaker 1: do you order chemical attacks on your own people? Why

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Speaker 1: do you cause the killings of over half a million

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Speaker 1: people in your country? Look, you know, I want to

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Speaker 1: break this down to it's really I want to break

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Speaker 1: this down. So we're talking about here today because you're

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Speaker 1: talking about a meeting that took place what three years ago? Well,

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Speaker 1: every time I come back, no, every time I come

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Speaker 1: back here on MSNBC, you guys talk to me about

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Speaker 1: these issues. It sounds like these are talking points that

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Speaker 1: Kamala Harris and her camps because she's refusing to address

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Speaker 1: the questions. Of course, every anchor has a different perspective

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Speaker 1: and different questions to ask. Asking for three years. This

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Speaker 1: is where the propaganda comes in. Calling out propaganda on MSNBC. Man,

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Speaker 1: I like it. I like this, like I like when

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Speaker 1: my old friend and former colleague Crystal Ball called out

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Speaker 1: MSNBC's Rachel Mattaw for all the false promises on Russia.

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Speaker 1: Always give credit, words due, Always encourage those who are right,

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Speaker 1: even if you think they're usually off on certain things.

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Speaker 1: When they're right, they're right. And Tulsi going out for MSNMES.

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Speaker 1: This is fun, folks. This is where we get to

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Speaker 1: enjoy this Democrat friendly fire that's going on here quite

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Speaker 1: a bit. And this was the best. This was the

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Speaker 1: best stuff from last night. I think we didn't even

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Speaker 1: get through half of I have so much more of

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Speaker 1: the crazy to talk to you about, but we could

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Speaker 1: spend all night doing that. You had someone like for example, Kirston.

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Speaker 1: Kirsten Gillibrand is among my least favorite of all these

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Speaker 1: Democrat candidates. I just think she's she's such a phony

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Speaker 1: that she doesn't even really hide the phoniness like she's

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Speaker 1: it's as though she figures, I'm a super phony who cares.

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Speaker 1: Let's just see where I can take this thing. There's

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Speaker 1: there's no shame about it whatsoever. She'll change whatever positions

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Speaker 1: she has to change, say whatever she has to say.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they asked about equal pay last night, and

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Speaker 1: there's so many things that that came up in this debate,

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Speaker 1: like what equal pay. As the Democrats talk about, it

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Speaker 1: is a lie. It's a lie. It's a lie. It's

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Speaker 1: been disproven a million times. It does not exist. Men

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Speaker 1: and women make different choices when you actually control for hours, work,

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Speaker 1: choices made risk in profession. All this this is otherwise,

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Speaker 1: This is such basic economics. If you could pay somebody

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Speaker 1: for the same work and get a thirty percent discount,

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Speaker 1: most businesses their biggest expense is payroll. That's true for

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Speaker 1: most businesses that payroll's their biggest single expense. If you

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Speaker 1: could save thirty percent and a lot of margins, and

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Speaker 1: businesses are you know, three, four or five percent in

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Speaker 1: terms of profit margin. If you could save thirty percent

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Speaker 1: in your workforce, who wouldn't only hire women? It's that straightforward.

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Speaker 1: If this was what they say it is, which is

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Speaker 1: they just pay women less because they pay them less

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Speaker 1: for no reason other than sexism. Anybody with a brain

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Speaker 1: would just say, why I'm I'm gonna have an entirely

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Speaker 1: female workforce, like at the exact same work product for

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Speaker 1: the exact same jobs and pay them seventy cents on

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Speaker 1: the dollar. By the way, this is what they actually

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Speaker 1: do with illegal aliens, which is they pay them less

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Speaker 1: than than whatever the prevailing wajord be because they're often

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Speaker 1: paying them off the books, not paying payroll taxes on them,

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Speaker 1: not paying you know, this was more of an issue

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Speaker 1: in the nineties, but it still goes on now, paying

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Speaker 1: them in cash. So there was that going on here.

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Speaker 1: Oh wait before, I just want a few more of

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Speaker 1: the crazy stuff and then we'll get into this work.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, Christian Jewila Brand jel Brand, here's the kind

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Speaker 1: of stuff that she brings to the discussion. Play eleven.

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Speaker 1: You are a co sponsor of the Green New Deal,

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Speaker 1: which includes the guarantee of a job with medical leave,

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Speaker 1: paid vacations, and retirement security for everyone in America. Explain

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Speaker 1: how that's realistic. So the first thing that I'm going

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Speaker 1: to do when I'm president is I'm going to clorox

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Speaker 1: the Oval Office. The second thing I'm going to do

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Speaker 1: is I will re engage on global climate change, re

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Speaker 1: engage on globe. I mean, look the chlorox line that

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Speaker 1: was prepared, and she was getting ready to give that

848
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:32,719
Speaker 1: for sure. But this is a woman who if you

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Speaker 1: do a quick Google search, you'll find photos of her

850
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:38,440
Speaker 1: arm in arm with Bill Clinton, photos of her arm

851
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:41,840
Speaker 1: in arm with Harvey Weinstein, anybody that she has to

852
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:44,960
Speaker 1: kiss up to on her way up the ranks of power,

853
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 1: She's willing to do that. And she's the one who

854
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:51,239
Speaker 1: threw al Franken under the bus, which I think is

855
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 1: so interesting that now they're trying to rehabilitate Franken's image,

856
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:58,800
Speaker 1: which is not going to happen, but they're trying. And

857
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:01,960
Speaker 1: you see that Kirsten Jillibrand was the one that gave him.

858
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:03,319
Speaker 1: She was the one that really gave him the push

859
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:08,319
Speaker 1: that sent him over. And then on the Okay, so

860
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 1: there's more. I'll do a little hold off on the crazy.

861
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 1: There's a very important study that I want to talk

862
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 1: to you about on because law enforcements a big That

863
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:20,200
Speaker 1: was the thing from last night that really upset me.

864
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 1: The most the trashing of law enforcement, the undermining of cops,

865
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:27,880
Speaker 1: especially given some of the things we've seen. Really interesting

866
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:31,400
Speaker 1: study just published. Heather McDonald has written about it over

867
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:34,000
Speaker 1: National Review. And the longest short of it is that

868
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 1: we've been told all this stuff about police shooting unarmed

869
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:42,960
Speaker 1: black men, and the narrative that does happen, It happens

870
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 1: very infrequently. It is overwhelmingly not a function of racism

871
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 1: or racial animists based on all the factors. You can

872
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:55,640
Speaker 1: look at the numbers. We will walk you through the

873
00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:58,400
Speaker 1: latest study on this when we come back. Stay with me.

874
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:00,479
Speaker 1: Why are you the best candidate to hear the racial

875
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:03,000
Speaker 1: divide that exists in this country today, which has been

876
00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:06,880
Speaker 1: stoked by the president's racist rhetoric. First of all, the

877
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 1: president's racist rhetoric should be enough browns for everybody in

878
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:13,440
Speaker 1: this country to vote them out how office. First of all,

879
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:16,879
Speaker 1: the president is a racist, and that was just one

880
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:19,400
Speaker 1: more example of it. We can no longer allow a

881
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:22,080
Speaker 1: white nationalist to be in the White House. Are you

882
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 1: suggesting that Republicans in Congress around the country are enabling racism? Absolutely,

883
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:32,239
Speaker 1: they're enabling all of the wrongdoing that this president has

884
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:38,680
Speaker 1: brought with them, from inaction on Russian interference to naked racism.

885
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:42,759
Speaker 1: Racism they say it so much, they accuse so many

886
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:47,480
Speaker 1: people of it. They love to say it about this president. Meanwhile,

887
00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:52,439
Speaker 1: the president has an agenda that is explicitly in many

888
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:57,640
Speaker 1: ways directed at helping minority communities. There's the first Step Back,

889
00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:05,480
Speaker 1: which disproportionately helps African American and Latino incarcerated individuals. There's

890
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:08,279
Speaker 1: just the economic growth and the focus on trying to

891
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:11,319
Speaker 1: help people who are wage earners. But let's put all

892
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:14,840
Speaker 1: that aside for a second. There is a a clear

893
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 1: thread of anti police ism that the Democratic Party has

894
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:24,640
Speaker 1: embraced once again. And it's the worst kind of pandering

895
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 1: because it's deeply harmful. It erodes the trust that is

896
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:32,840
Speaker 1: needed between communities that are plagued by violence and their police,

897
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:37,160
Speaker 1: particularly local police. You'll notice, James Comey, the FBI liberals

898
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 1: have been pretending for a while. Now they love the FBI.

899
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:44,560
Speaker 1: They love the intelligence community. I was in the intelligence

900
00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:46,920
Speaker 1: community when they hated us because of Iraq and WMD.

901
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:49,240
Speaker 1: Now they love the intelligence community. How how could Trump

902
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:53,520
Speaker 1: ever not trust his intelligence community? Well, gee, I could

903
00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:55,200
Speaker 1: think of about one hundred reasons off the top of

904
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:59,359
Speaker 1: my head. But local police, local law enforcement have been

905
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:03,360
Speaker 1: targeted by Democrats stretching back in the Obama administration, and

906
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:06,279
Speaker 1: it's one of the more shameful chapters of Obama's time

907
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:10,240
Speaker 1: as president, the way that he and his administration often

908
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:16,640
Speaker 1: spoke of, dealt with, and treated law enforcement. The Black

909
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:22,280
Speaker 1: Lives Matter movement was based on lies. Michael Brown's shooting,

910
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:25,279
Speaker 1: the FBI investor, the Department of Justice investigation of it.

911
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:27,799
Speaker 1: It didn't matter that it was all lies. Hands up,

912
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:31,439
Speaker 1: don't shoot was a lie. They didn't care, didn't change

913
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:35,799
Speaker 1: the araf didn't change the storyline. Well, now we have

914
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:43,160
Speaker 1: once again crime and police community relations getting more attention.

915
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:46,839
Speaker 1: I mentioned to you all that I was in Baltimore

916
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:51,120
Speaker 1: yesterday and there's no way around it. Baltimore is in

917
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:55,480
Speaker 1: some places a very very depressing, very unsafe and scary place,

918
00:51:55,880 --> 00:52:01,600
Speaker 1: and it should not be what it is also, am I.

919
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:03,239
Speaker 1: I just want to make sure this is correct before

920
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:05,399
Speaker 1: I tell you. I saw linked I saw something today

921
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:11,600
Speaker 1: that said that here we go. CBS Baltimore Representative Elijah

922
00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:17,879
Speaker 1: cummings Baltimore home was burglarized. Wow, you cannot make this up.

923
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:21,520
Speaker 1: Baltimore police are investigating after the home of Representative Elijah

924
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:25,800
Speaker 1: Cummings is broken into early Saturday morning. Burglary occurred around

925
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:31,840
Speaker 1: burglary occurred around three forty am at his Baltimore home. Wow.

926
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Speaker 1: Donald Trump responded to tweeting about the Representative Elijah Cummings

927
00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:38,600
Speaker 1: has been a brutal bully, shouting and screaming at the

928
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:40,440
Speaker 1: great men and women of Borda Patrol about conditions at

929
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 1: the southern border, when actually his Baltimore district is far

930
00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:48,080
Speaker 1: worse and more dangerous. His district is considered the worst

931
00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:53,600
Speaker 1: in the USA. Wow. So Cummings just got his house,

932
00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:57,200
Speaker 1: just got burglarized. That's I'm sorry. But given the conversation

933
00:52:57,320 --> 00:53:00,400
Speaker 1: about focusing on districts that have high crime rates and

934
00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:05,520
Speaker 1: what has Elijah Cummings really done for his district, and

935
00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:08,000
Speaker 1: those are those you can't make this stuff up, folks.

936
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:11,279
Speaker 1: You just got burglarized on Saturday. But there's more of

937
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:14,560
Speaker 1: a conversation now than there's been a while about police

938
00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:17,120
Speaker 1: and policing as well, because, as I've mentioned to you

939
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:21,719
Speaker 1: last night, Democrats i think really debased themselves. I mean

940
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:24,320
Speaker 1: the way that they speak about law enforcement and people

941
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:29,279
Speaker 1: like Beto and Buddha judge and these just these smug

942
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:33,440
Speaker 1: elitist liberals who love through the whole. Oh, police are

943
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:35,480
Speaker 1: so terrible. Look at what they do and all these

944
00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:39,760
Speaker 1: racist shootings. And you know, you know that if somebody

945
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:44,719
Speaker 1: trapes across Beto's very large front yard, I'm sure he'd,

946
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:46,520
Speaker 1: you know, he'd be very quick to call the cops. Right.

947
00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:49,240
Speaker 1: I mean, these guys, there's such phonies on this issue,

948
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:52,520
Speaker 1: and it's so unfair what they say, and there's real consequences.

949
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:56,040
Speaker 1: I mentioned this study to you about police involved shootings

950
00:53:56,040 --> 00:54:00,160
Speaker 1: and whether or not by the data, they're racist. You're

951
00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:02,880
Speaker 1: gonna want to hear this. I'll give you the numbers

952
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:04,480
Speaker 1: when we come back. The team. Just want to give

953
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:06,520
Speaker 1: you a heads up. Welcome back to the Buck Section show.

954
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 1: Ovic Roy is gonna be joining us in just a

955
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:11,480
Speaker 1: little bit here. We're gonna do a deep dive on

956
00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:14,399
Speaker 1: all the healthcare stuff from last night. So I don't

957
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:16,920
Speaker 1: think that we've I know, I've been focusing on some

958
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:18,880
Speaker 1: other things, but all the healthcare stuff from last night,

959
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:20,840
Speaker 1: we'll do a deep dive in the third hour. I

960
00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:22,480
Speaker 1: wanted Ovic to join on that because I think he

961
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:24,600
Speaker 1: always does a very good job He's very fair minded

962
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:27,759
Speaker 1: in his approach too. He's not just like it's all socialism.

963
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:31,040
Speaker 1: So if you really want to know what's going on

964
00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:33,759
Speaker 1: with that, if you want to be smarter on the

965
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:38,719
Speaker 1: healthcare debate than any of your friends, which I'm sure

966
00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:40,200
Speaker 1: you already are because you listen to this show, but

967
00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:43,560
Speaker 1: nonetheless stay around for the third hour we'll be getting

968
00:54:43,560 --> 00:54:45,960
Speaker 1: into that. I just thought this was a really powerful

969
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:48,279
Speaker 1: piece because it did. It did upset me last night,

970
00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:54,320
Speaker 1: the anti cop stuff and the Democrats just shameless pandering

971
00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:56,600
Speaker 1: acting like police of the problem when you know, we

972
00:54:56,920 --> 00:55:00,320
Speaker 1: owe our police a debt of gratitude as a side

973
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:06,120
Speaker 1: for being as professional and decent and courageous as they are.

974
00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:11,239
Speaker 1: But Heather McDonald, who's great, pulled this piece together. There

975
00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:14,080
Speaker 1: is no epidemic of racist police shootings. Let me give

976
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:17,080
Speaker 1: you some of what she writes your National Review. The

977
00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:20,560
Speaker 1: Democratic presidential candidates have revived the anti police rhetoric of

978
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Speaker 1: the Obama years. Joe Biden's Criminal Justice Plan promises that

979
00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:28,880
Speaker 1: after his policing reforms, black mothers and fathers will no

980
00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:31,680
Speaker 1: longer have to fear when their children walk the streets

981
00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:35,959
Speaker 1: of America. The threat allegedly coming from cops, not gangbangers.

982
00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:39,879
Speaker 1: President Barack Obama likewise claimed during the memorial for five

983
00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:42,760
Speaker 1: dollars police officers killed by a Black Lives Matter inspired

984
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:46,719
Speaker 1: assassin in July twenty sixteen that black parents were right

985
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:48,480
Speaker 1: to fear that their child could be killed by a

986
00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:52,200
Speaker 1: police officer whenever he walks out the door. South Bend

987
00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:55,040
Speaker 1: mayor Pete Buddha Judge has said that police shootings of

988
00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:59,160
Speaker 1: black men won't be solved until we move policing out

989
00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:04,040
Speaker 1: from the shadow of systemic racism. Beto Aurora claims that

990
00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:08,080
Speaker 1: the police shoot blacks solely based on the color of

991
00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:12,640
Speaker 1: their skin. So yes, there's a tremendous amount of really

992
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:17,640
Speaker 1: vicious anti police the cops are racist rhetoric. Well, there's

993
00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:19,640
Speaker 1: a new study published in the Proceedings of the National

994
00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:22,759
Speaker 1: Academy of Sciences looking at this. Here are some of

995
00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:27,880
Speaker 1: the key findings contained in this study. Twenty fifteen Justice

996
00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:32,800
Speaker 1: Department study that its sites found that black officers were

997
00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:36,799
Speaker 1: sixty seven percent more likely than white officers to mistakenly

998
00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:41,480
Speaker 1: shoot an unarmed black suspect. Hispanic officers were one hundred

999
00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:44,480
Speaker 1: and forty five percent more likely than white officers to

1000
00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:51,360
Speaker 1: mistakenly shoot an unarmed black suspect. So looking at nine

1001
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:54,800
Speaker 1: hundred and seventeen officer involved fatal shootings, folks, there aren't

1002
00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:57,239
Speaker 1: that many, you know's, that's pretty much all them, I

1003
00:56:57,280 --> 00:57:02,440
Speaker 1: think stretching back from twenty fifteen, you only have a

1004
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:05,560
Speaker 1: couple one hundred a year, one hundred to one hundred

1005
00:57:05,560 --> 00:57:07,480
Speaker 1: and fifty a year, I believe around around that level.

1006
00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:11,000
Speaker 1: Very interesting things from the study as well. Remember all

1007
00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:14,080
Speaker 1: the stuff you're hearing about black lives matter, and you know,

1008
00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:17,160
Speaker 1: I can't breathe, Derek Garner, hands up, don't shoot, all

1009
00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:22,040
Speaker 1: this rhetoric, all this storyline. You're told, how many people

1010
00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:26,480
Speaker 1: would know that fifty five percent of the people shot

1011
00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:29,680
Speaker 1: by fatally by law enforcement or white. So a majority

1012
00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:31,680
Speaker 1: of the people killed by cops are white. Start with that,

1013
00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:40,320
Speaker 1: twenty seven percent or black, nineteen percent were Hispanic. Between

1014
00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:43,840
Speaker 1: ninety and ninety five percent of the civilians shot since

1015
00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:49,040
Speaker 1: twenty fifteen were either attacking a police officer or attacking

1016
00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:55,240
Speaker 1: another citizen, so they were these were straight up defensive maneuvers,

1017
00:57:55,240 --> 00:57:58,240
Speaker 1: either defending law enforcement personally or defending somebody who was

1018
00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:03,000
Speaker 1: under assault from a person. So the number of shootings

1019
00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:05,680
Speaker 1: in which an officer kills somebody who's unarmed because they

1020
00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:07,760
Speaker 1: think that there's a cell phone, or they think it's

1021
00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:09,520
Speaker 1: a gum when it's really a cell phone. That's very

1022
00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:18,480
Speaker 1: rare statistically. There's more. In the twenty fifteen study, the

1023
00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:22,240
Speaker 1: white victims of fatal police shootings included a fifty year

1024
00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:25,600
Speaker 1: old suspect in a domestic assault in Tuscaloosa, Alabama, who

1025
00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:28,520
Speaker 1: ran at the officer with a spoon, a twenty eight

1026
00:58:28,600 --> 00:58:30,880
Speaker 1: year old driver in Des Moines, Iowa, who exited his

1027
00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:33,440
Speaker 1: car and walked quickly toward an officer after a car chase,

1028
00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:36,120
Speaker 1: and a twenty one year old suspect in a grocery

1029
00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:39,040
Speaker 1: store robbery in Akron, Ohio, who had escaped on a

1030
00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:41,320
Speaker 1: bike and who did not remove his waistband went order

1031
00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:44,920
Speaker 1: to do so, Heather Rights. Had any of these victims

1032
00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:47,840
Speaker 1: been black, the median activists would probably have jumped on

1033
00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:49,440
Speaker 1: their stories and out of their names the roster of

1034
00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:51,840
Speaker 1: victims of police racism. But because they are white, they

1035
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Speaker 1: are unknown. This entire Black Lives Matter movement of how cops,

1036
00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:02,200
Speaker 1: white cops are shooting black men. It's an epidemic. It's racist,

1037
00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:05,560
Speaker 1: it's happening, that's happening far too frequently all across the country,

1038
00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:09,400
Speaker 1: systemic race. It's just a lie, folks. The numbers don't

1039
00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:12,520
Speaker 1: bear it out. The reality of police officers across the

1040
00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:15,360
Speaker 1: country working their communities doesn't bear it out. It's just

1041
00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:18,720
Speaker 1: been a lie the whole thing. Neighborhoods have been burned

1042
00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:22,919
Speaker 1: down because of this lie. Barack Obama played a role

1043
00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:27,840
Speaker 1: in fanning these flames as president, and now you have

1044
00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:30,840
Speaker 1: Democrat candidates on that stage last night doing exactly the

1045
00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:35,960
Speaker 1: same thing, pandering and throwing law enforcement under the bus

1046
00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:39,200
Speaker 1: to do so. It's a disgrace. But there's so much

1047
00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:41,240
Speaker 1: from last night. The problem I had, and I knew

1048
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:42,960
Speaker 1: this would be the case, the problem I had coming

1049
00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:45,200
Speaker 1: onto the show today was there was so much crazy.

1050
00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:49,920
Speaker 1: They said so many things that were just I mean,

1051
00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:54,080
Speaker 1: indefensibly either dishonest or stupid or both that I knew

1052
00:59:54,080 --> 00:59:56,479
Speaker 1: we wouldn't even have full time to go through it all.

1053
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Speaker 1: And they had Castro talking about decriminalizing the decriminalizing border crossings.

1054
01:00:05,560 --> 01:00:08,320
Speaker 1: What do they think that's gonna do. You can come

1055
01:00:08,360 --> 01:00:11,240
Speaker 1: into the country and it's a civil it's a civil offense.

1056
01:00:11,280 --> 01:00:13,720
Speaker 1: Now these people have no money, folks. So so does

1057
01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:17,120
Speaker 1: anyone really think that they're coming across the border they're

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Speaker 1: gonna write some huge check as a No, of course not.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be a civil offense, which means that maybe

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Speaker 1: they'll be a fine attachment, which means that a judge,

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Speaker 1: an immigration judge, will wave it and say, these people

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Speaker 1: are fleeing poverty and they have no money, and even

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Speaker 1: though a lot of them have paid thousands and thousands

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Speaker 1: of dollars to coyotes, to cartel smuggling organizations, they're not

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Speaker 1: gonna They're not gonna be held to account. This is

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Speaker 1: open borders straight up. Castro called it a right wing

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Speaker 1: talking point. This is this is where we're heading. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's there's so much from last night that I would

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Speaker 1: I mean, we could, we could even talk about Joe Biden.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's supposed to be the moderate here and

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Speaker 1: he talked I'm sorry. This might have been the angle

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Speaker 1: craziest thing from last night. They want to get rid

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Speaker 1: of fossil fuels. They want to eliminate fossil fuel usage.

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is so outlandish To really do this

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Speaker 1: would bring our economy to a screeching halt. Okay, this

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Speaker 1: is absolutely nuts. And just for example, Joe Biden is

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Speaker 1: supposed to be the model you're talking about how they

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Speaker 1: want to he wants to eliminate coal playclip seven. Thank you,

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Speaker 1: mister Rice. President. Just to clarify, would there be any

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Speaker 1: place for fossil fuels, including coal and fracking in a

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Speaker 1: Biden administration, No, would, We would work it out. We

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Speaker 1: would make sure it's eliminated, and no more subsidies for

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Speaker 1: either one of those, either any fossil fuel, any fossil fuel,

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Speaker 1: not just call any fossil fuel. We're going to eliminate

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Speaker 1: it under his presidency. This is the sort of thing

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Speaker 1: that you could only say if you think you're speaking

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Speaker 1: to a room full of more runs or you don't

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Speaker 1: know anything. The economy could not function period without fossil

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Speaker 1: fuels right now, full stop, never mind, I mean, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna do this to ourselves. Why the rest of the

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Speaker 1: world's not gonna stop using fossil fuels. Look at the

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Speaker 1: percentage of how much we get that's that's truly renewable

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Speaker 1: energy for a current needs. You're gonna try to transition

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Speaker 1: out of this. This is this is MAO great leap

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01:02:29,400 --> 01:02:35,360
Speaker 1: forward level folly. This is completely bonkers. You know, Mao

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Speaker 1: had an idea, Yeah, we're gonna industrialize, and you know what,

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Speaker 1: they did manage to industrialize, But they also managed to

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Speaker 1: start forty to sixty million people to death. But they

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Speaker 1: did manage to industrialize shutting off fossil fuels. By the way,

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Speaker 1: here's Joe Biden in twenty twelve on fossil fuels play eight. Look,

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Speaker 1: it's all of the above for us. We desperately need coal,

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Speaker 1: and we needed to get cleaner and cleaner. We desperately

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01:03:01,920 --> 01:03:07,560
Speaker 1: need all the source of energy. We desperately need fossil fuels,

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Speaker 1: or we need to eliminate them somehow. Over the span

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Speaker 1: of seven years, we've gone from we desperately need fossil

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Speaker 1: fuels to oh my gosh, we gotta get rid of

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Speaker 1: all of them right away. These are unserious people making

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01:03:20,520 --> 01:03:25,720
Speaker 1: unserious points to an audience and a voting block that

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01:03:25,880 --> 01:03:29,400
Speaker 1: really just needs to read a book, and not a

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01:03:29,440 --> 01:03:31,520
Speaker 1: Harry Potter book, like read a book that will teach

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Speaker 1: them things. I guess we'll I got some deep state

1112
01:03:37,480 --> 01:03:38,840
Speaker 1: news I want to get to with you as well.

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Speaker 1: And then there's the voting machine stuff. The Democrats are

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Speaker 1: calling him Moscow Mitch still because he doesn't want to

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Speaker 1: spend eight hundred million dollars on voting as if that's

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Speaker 1: gonna I guess, so much more show to do. Gosh,

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Speaker 1: the show is flying by today. I guess when I'm

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01:03:51,400 --> 01:03:56,320
Speaker 1: in La the weather here rejuvenates me. We'll be right back.

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Speaker 1: So if there was an abuse of the FISA process,

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Speaker 1: if there was a misleading of the court by the

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Speaker 1: FBI director, that is a monumental crime, and I would

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01:04:07,160 --> 01:04:10,080
Speaker 1: focus on that. If that's what happened. The whole idea

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Speaker 1: that you can take something that is marked secret, no foreign,

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Speaker 1: and they just decide on your own to take that

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Speaker 1: out of a skiff, so out of a controlled area,

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Speaker 1: not handled properly, and take to someone's house or a

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Speaker 1: university or wherever these memos went to. You just can't

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Speaker 1: do that. If you purposely take a document, it is

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Speaker 1: one thing if you accidentally walked out with it, But

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Speaker 1: to walk out with something that is clearly marked secret,

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01:04:34,800 --> 01:04:37,360
Speaker 1: no foreign, I don't see. I mean, there's been people

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Speaker 1: who have been busted for way less than that, I

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Speaker 1: will tell you for sure. I mean, you know, rank

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Speaker 1: and file military intelligence people would never get away with

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01:04:46,280 --> 01:04:51,840
Speaker 1: what mister Komy so far as getting away with story

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01:04:51,880 --> 01:04:55,040
Speaker 1: out today, the Department of Justice will not prosecute James

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Speaker 1: Coomy or leaking memos after the I ferrel, folks. One

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01:05:03,920 --> 01:05:06,080
Speaker 1: of my jobs I think here is as somebody who

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01:05:06,160 --> 01:05:10,439
Speaker 1: is familiar with the the flabby folds of the federal bureaucracy,

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01:05:10,840 --> 01:05:14,840
Speaker 1: is to tell you, don't expect there to be real accountability.

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01:05:15,000 --> 01:05:19,080
Speaker 1: Don't expect there to be a cavalry of truth and

1142
01:05:19,160 --> 01:05:22,560
Speaker 1: justice to arrive just in the nick of time to

1143
01:05:22,720 --> 01:05:27,880
Speaker 1: hold these deep state operatives accountable for the abuse of

1144
01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:34,200
Speaker 1: power for their partisan games. Nope, probably not going to happen.

1145
01:05:36,240 --> 01:05:39,640
Speaker 1: James Comey has shown us all who he is. And

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01:05:40,640 --> 01:05:43,080
Speaker 1: it's a reminder never to listen to the media when

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01:05:43,120 --> 01:05:46,720
Speaker 1: they tell you that somebody who works for the government

1148
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Speaker 1: is just on the up and up, couldn't be more trustworthy.

1149
01:05:49,960 --> 01:05:53,000
Speaker 1: Anybody who has any questions about this person shouldn't be trusted.

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Speaker 1: Shouldn't have trusted James Comy. Mothery saying that he is

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Speaker 1: not going to be prosecutive, even though he removed memo

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Speaker 1: and then leaked them, and the memos were later on

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01:06:03,240 --> 01:06:07,360
Speaker 1: marked confidential. They're destroying the whole classification process. Here by

1154
01:06:07,360 --> 01:06:11,800
Speaker 1: bailing out these very senior, elite government officials, they're destroying it.

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01:06:11,800 --> 01:06:15,640
Speaker 1: I mean, it's basically a joke now, because all you

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01:06:15,680 --> 01:06:17,560
Speaker 1: have to do is make sure there's no markings on

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Speaker 1: whatever you're taking, and then it doesn't matter anymore. It's

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Speaker 1: not about the information, Right, Hillary, it wasn't mark classified,

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01:06:23,240 --> 01:06:27,080
Speaker 1: so she got off. Comey, it wasn't mark classified, but

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Speaker 1: it was classified, but he gets off. Comey's story here

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01:06:30,480 --> 01:06:32,800
Speaker 1: is that private discussions that he had in the Oval

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Speaker 1: office as the FBI director about FBI business with the

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Speaker 1: President of United States is not classified. That's an unserious position.

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Speaker 1: Of course it's classified. I used to work with classified

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Speaker 1: information all the time. I would have always assumed that

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Speaker 1: those discussions would have been considered classified. But nope, they're

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01:06:53,960 --> 01:06:56,520
Speaker 1: gonna let come off without any prosecution. The really tough

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Speaker 1: one is going to be, how do they let McCabe

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Speaker 1: off with that prosecution? You know what I'm telling you, right,

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Speaker 1: I think they were going to remember McCabe was acting

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Speaker 1: FBI director, allied numerous times under oath the Inspector General,

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Speaker 1: and they're gonna say that they're exercising prosecutorial discretion, blah

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01:07:11,480 --> 01:07:15,400
Speaker 1: blah blah. Similar cases when they viewed them, seem like

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01:07:15,440 --> 01:07:19,080
Speaker 1: maybe and they're just gonna this is the justice, small et, folks.

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Speaker 1: If the people in charge of administering justice don't really

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01:07:22,440 --> 01:07:25,080
Speaker 1: care about justice, nothing else matters. They can always find

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Speaker 1: a way to let somebody go. They can always find

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Speaker 1: an excuse to not bring charges, to not prosecute. So

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Speaker 1: Comey's gonna skate. He's gonna skate. I think I think

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Speaker 1: McCabe's gonna skate too. And what we're gonna find out

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01:07:42,440 --> 01:07:44,320
Speaker 1: is that there were omissions, and they were they were

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01:07:44,400 --> 01:07:49,320
Speaker 1: clear falsehoods that were given to the FISA court to

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01:07:49,360 --> 01:07:51,400
Speaker 1: get all this surveillance stuff going. And then also there

1184
01:07:51,400 --> 01:07:54,240
Speaker 1: were lies to the public about when the Papadopolis investigation

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Speaker 1: really began and who was involved in it. I've told

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Speaker 1: people back in twenty twelve that right after Obamba was elected,

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01:08:03,320 --> 01:08:05,520
Speaker 1: I said, you can forget about any any real justice

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01:08:05,560 --> 01:08:08,360
Speaker 1: for what happened in Benghazi, at least in terms of

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01:08:08,400 --> 01:08:16,240
Speaker 1: accountability for the people that left our men behind. I'm

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Speaker 1: telling you right now that the Inspector General report Hordes

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Speaker 1: and all this, and I know no one say I

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01:08:19,760 --> 01:08:22,479
Speaker 1: should be saying, oh that a deep state accountabilities coming

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01:08:22,520 --> 01:08:24,680
Speaker 1: for the deep state, or it's gonna happen. And you know,

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Speaker 1: we've got a newness auto, we've got an inspector general,

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01:08:27,200 --> 01:08:30,080
Speaker 1: we've got all these A lot of other radio hosts

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Speaker 1: can do that. I'm here to tell you that we

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01:08:32,120 --> 01:08:35,080
Speaker 1: will find out more information that I hope will affect

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Speaker 1: some people's perceptions and the electorate in time for next

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Speaker 1: falls reelection, hopefully re election of Trump. But I do

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Speaker 1: not believe that the the corridors of power will hold

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01:08:48,120 --> 01:08:50,880
Speaker 1: their own responsible in any meaningful way. I really don't.

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Speaker 1: I wish I could say otherwise. Comy's gonna skate, mcabe's

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01:08:54,240 --> 01:08:57,720
Speaker 1: gonna skate, Brennan's gonna skate. None of them. None of

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01:08:57,720 --> 01:08:59,880
Speaker 1: them will face any charges for anything that they did.

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Speaker 1: And in the case of McKay, that's just flat. That's

1206
01:09:03,040 --> 01:09:05,759
Speaker 1: like Bill Clinton lying under oath and people just saying, yeah, whatever,

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01:09:07,120 --> 01:09:10,519
Speaker 1: broke the law. But as we see with immigration too,

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01:09:10,840 --> 01:09:12,639
Speaker 1: and all the law, all the laws that are told

1209
01:09:12,680 --> 01:09:15,080
Speaker 1: that the southern border by people coming into the country,

1210
01:09:15,160 --> 01:09:17,960
Speaker 1: all the laws that are broken, Democrats think the law

1211
01:09:18,120 --> 01:09:20,120
Speaker 1: is just a suggestion. They're willing to put it aside

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01:09:20,120 --> 01:09:23,920
Speaker 1: whenever it suits their fancy. One more thing here that

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01:09:24,160 --> 01:09:26,280
Speaker 1: we've got to Ovikna join in a few minutes to

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Speaker 1: talk about all the healthcare stuff from last night. I

1215
01:09:29,200 --> 01:09:32,040
Speaker 1: really wanted to pack that into one part of the show.

1216
01:09:34,160 --> 01:09:37,640
Speaker 1: But just this Moscow Mitch stuff is such a disgrace.

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Speaker 1: Here's what's really going on, folks. The Democrats tried to

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Speaker 1: try to dram through using unanimous consent procedure, which is

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01:09:46,760 --> 01:09:48,519
Speaker 1: supposed to be for like, hey, can we take a

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01:09:48,560 --> 01:09:50,920
Speaker 1: bathroom break today at two o'clock? Okay, everyone, the Senate's

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Speaker 1: cool with that. Unanimous consent is like naming of a

1222
01:09:54,120 --> 01:09:56,920
Speaker 1: post office. It's not stuff that is ever real. They

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01:09:56,920 --> 01:10:02,599
Speaker 1: tried to ram through an eight hundred million dollar, eight

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Speaker 1: hundred million dollars package on election security, and they're claiming

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Speaker 1: that because Mitch McConnell won't let them just do this

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Speaker 1: by unanimous consent without having any normal Senate procedure, that

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Speaker 1: he's Moscow Mitch and he's doing Moscow's bidding. These people

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01:10:17,200 --> 01:10:25,400
Speaker 1: are shameless, and the residence that this has within the media,

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01:10:25,520 --> 01:10:28,000
Speaker 1: the magnifying effect that the media is giving this is

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Speaker 1: just despicable. But remember anything Russia related they want to

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01:10:31,479 --> 01:10:35,040
Speaker 1: talk about. They want to make anything Russia a headline

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01:10:35,040 --> 01:10:37,040
Speaker 1: they want to put in the new cycle because ultimately

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Speaker 1: they're still obsessed with this idea that Russia gave Trump

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01:10:41,160 --> 01:10:43,479
Speaker 1: the last election. And I've been telling you this. They're

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01:10:43,520 --> 01:10:46,880
Speaker 1: going to claim if Trump wins that Russia helped him again.

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Speaker 1: Why why wouldn't they They think they're calling Mitch McConnell,

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01:10:51,640 --> 01:10:55,360
Speaker 1: Mitch McConnell from Kentucky. They're calling him Moscow Mitch. These

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01:10:55,400 --> 01:10:59,400
Speaker 1: people are lunatics. So this election security thing has nothing

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01:10:59,439 --> 01:11:04,720
Speaker 1: to do with election security. It's just all a media

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01:11:05,120 --> 01:11:08,919
Speaker 1: narrative that's being pushed by the Democrats and it's all garbage.

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01:11:08,960 --> 01:11:12,000
Speaker 1: But let's talk healthcare, folks, single most important issue according

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Speaker 1: to the polls. Where are the Democrats on that? Ovic Roy,

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01:11:15,200 --> 01:11:17,160
Speaker 1: the expert, You're gonna join us at the moment. Not

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01:11:17,320 --> 01:11:19,920
Speaker 1: a privilege. I believe that I will fight for that.

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Speaker 1: Tens of millions of people who lose their health insurance

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Speaker 1: every single year when they change jobs, when their employer

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01:11:27,760 --> 01:11:32,080
Speaker 1: changes that insurance. If you want stability in the healthcare system,

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01:11:32,120 --> 01:11:34,479
Speaker 1: if you want a system which gives you freedom of

1249
01:11:34,560 --> 01:11:38,439
Speaker 1: choice with regard to doctor or hospital, which is a

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01:11:38,520 --> 01:11:42,479
Speaker 1: system which will not bankrupt you. The answer is to

1251
01:11:42,479 --> 01:11:45,640
Speaker 1: get rid of the profiteering of the drug companies and

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01:11:45,680 --> 01:11:49,280
Speaker 1: the insurance companies are most to Medicare. Language All right, teams,

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Speaker 1: So we have a healthcare expert friend of the show

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01:11:52,960 --> 01:11:56,280
Speaker 1: joining us. Now, the one and only Ovic roy is

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01:11:56,320 --> 01:11:59,519
Speaker 1: in the house, or technically on the line. He is

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01:11:59,600 --> 01:12:02,599
Speaker 1: from Well. He's the president of the Foundation for Research

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01:12:02,760 --> 01:12:06,519
Speaker 1: on Equal Opportunity. He knows healthcare backwards and forwards. Mister

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Speaker 1: olc Royd, good to have you back, sir, Hey Buck,

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Speaker 1: how's it going. That's good man. So let's let's just

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01:12:11,720 --> 01:12:15,519
Speaker 1: get to this. What is this Who has the single

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01:12:16,080 --> 01:12:19,479
Speaker 1: craziest plan of the Democrats of these last two debates

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01:12:19,520 --> 01:12:23,880
Speaker 1: this week? Whose plan is that is the most fatally flawed?

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Speaker 1: Or is that even a distinction that's possible to make? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it is a distinction you can make. And the champ

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Speaker 1: has to be burning. I mean, Bernie's plan is totally insane,

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Speaker 1: totally unworkable, would be complete chaos for the healthcare system.

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Speaker 1: Why tell me why, I really want because Libs freak out,

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Speaker 1: they say, oh Sweden does it. Why is Bernie's plan

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Speaker 1: a disaster? Well, it all comes down to the fact

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Speaker 1: that what there are a lot of things wrong with

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Speaker 1: the US healthcare system, a lot of things we need

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Speaker 1: to improve. Healthcare is too expensive, all that. But what

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Speaker 1: Bernie's plan would do is basically make it last e

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Speaker 1: private health insurance. So there's about, depending on how you counted,

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Speaker 1: one hundred and eighty million Americans with private health insurance

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Speaker 1: of about total of three hundred and thirty people who

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Speaker 1: live here. So you basically take all of their health

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Speaker 1: insurance and make it illegal and replace it with something

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Speaker 1: that Bernie promises is better. Now, you know, whether whatever

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Speaker 1: you think of Bernie's ability to make promises like that,

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Speaker 1: the fact is you're asking one hundred eighty million Americans

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Speaker 1: to take a pretty huge risk with their healthcare. And

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Speaker 1: that is and that's aside from the fact that the

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Speaker 1: plan would cost thirty two trillion with a t trillion

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Speaker 1: dollars over ten years. Now, just to put that in context,

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Speaker 1: buck Obamacare, which which some people talked about as the

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Speaker 1: government take over the healthcare system, Obamacare only increased federal

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Speaker 1: spending by two trillion dollars over ten years. Bernie's plan

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Speaker 1: increases federal spending by thirty two trillion dollars over ten years.

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Speaker 1: So that tells you the scale a Bernie's Plan is

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Speaker 1: fifteen times or sixteen times bigger than Obamacare and its

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Speaker 1: ambition and its reach to effectively abolish the role of

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Speaker 1: the private sector and health insurre Now he says that

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Speaker 1: there will be a savings of I think it was

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Speaker 1: five hundred billion dollars just from the the elimination of

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Speaker 1: health insurance companies and their big, fat, bloated profits. What

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Speaker 1: can you tell us about that? Well, the truth of

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Speaker 1: you know, the the insurance companies, because my personal experience

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Speaker 1: is that where you get really where you get really

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Speaker 1: dinged badly in healthcare is hospitals and sometimes in medicine pharmaceuticals.

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Speaker 1: But obviously people have bad stories about their health insurers

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Speaker 1: in the past. How much can you actually say from

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01:14:45,840 --> 01:14:48,280
Speaker 1: doing that and how bad are the big, bad profit

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Speaker 1: seeking health insurers in this whole process. Well, Gerald Ford

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01:14:52,680 --> 01:14:55,719
Speaker 1: once said, you know, if you think healthcare is expensive,

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Speaker 1: now wait until it's free. I mean, the way the

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Speaker 1: way to think about Bernie's Plan, it's kind of like

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Speaker 1: me at an open bar versus a cash bar. If

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Speaker 1: I'm at a cash bar and I'm paying for every

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Speaker 1: drink I order. You know, I'm gonna be I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: be mindful of what I'm paying. You know, i might

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Speaker 1: order the bud light instead of a single Malts Catch

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Speaker 1: or whatever. And I'm certainly not gonna have five drinks

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Speaker 1: unless I'm really depressed or something. But an open bar,

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Speaker 1: you know, all bets are off. I can do whatever, right,

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Speaker 1: And that's Bernie's healthcare plan. Bernie's healthcare plans, the thirty

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Speaker 1: two trillion dollar open bar where you can consume not

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Speaker 1: only the healthcare that you might actually genuinely need, but

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Speaker 1: a lot of things you might not. But because you're

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Speaker 1: not paying for it, you're like, what the hell? Why not?

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Speaker 1: You know it's free, and not only that, the hospitals

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Speaker 1: and the drug companies and everyone else. Bay Well, now

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Speaker 1: that the tax payer is paying for all this, let's

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Speaker 1: raise our prices because the actual patient doesn't care what

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Speaker 1: it costs because it's free to him. So if we

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Speaker 1: pay if we charge the patient twenty thousand bucks instead

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Speaker 1: of two hundred bucks for the same service, he's not

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Speaker 1: going to care. He's not paying for it. The taxpayers

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Speaker 1: are paying for it. And that's how you get to

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Speaker 1: a system that's completely unaffordable. Now, there are ways to

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Speaker 1: tackle that problem. You could have price controls, you could

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Speaker 1: ration access to expensive care, you could do a lot

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Speaker 1: of things from in a government run system to try

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Speaker 1: to counter that open bar mentality. But Bernie's plan doesn't

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Speaker 1: do that. Bernie's plan is simply everything should be free

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Speaker 1: to the patient, and we'll talk about how to control

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Speaker 1: costs later. And so it's much just it's much more.

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Speaker 1: There's much greater largess from the government in Bernie's plan

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Speaker 1: than even there is in Medicare. He keeps saying Medicare

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Speaker 1: for all, But Medicare has call sharing. Medicare is states

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Speaker 1: kicking and money. Individuals have to pay parts if it

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Speaker 1: doesn't cover everything. So what Bernie's talking about is even

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Speaker 1: a level beyond Medicare. Yeah, I mean, this is one

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Speaker 1: of the real dishonesties in the Bernie plan. It's not

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Speaker 1: actually Medicare. What you know, he uses Medicare for all

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Speaker 1: because he knows that Medicare is popular and that people

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Speaker 1: understand what Medicare is. But Bernie's plan is not Medicare.

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Speaker 1: As you said, Medicare has premiums, Medicare has copaid, Medicare

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Speaker 1: has deductibles, Medicare has private health insurance. More than a

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Speaker 1: third of the people on Medicare have private health plans.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, the number of people with traditional

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Speaker 1: single payer Medicare is actually declining, while the number of

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Speaker 1: people with private Medicare private health insurance Medicare is exploding

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Speaker 1: because the private plans are doing a better job of

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Speaker 1: delivering the Medicare benefit in a cost effective way. So

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Speaker 1: Bernie's plan wouldn't just abolish employer based coverage or other

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Speaker 1: forms of private insurance. It would also abolish the private

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Speaker 1: insurance that is the increasingly the most popular part of

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Speaker 1: Medicare itself. So, you know, so there's all sorts of

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Speaker 1: problems with Bernie's plan. But you know, I don't want

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Speaker 1: to get too fixated on Bernie's plan in this sense,

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Speaker 1: but for the time that we have, because there's a

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Speaker 1: kind of a secret a trick going on here, which

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Speaker 1: is now the public option. The public option which was

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Speaker 1: too radical for Obamacare. You couldn't get sixty Democrats in

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Speaker 1: the Senate to support the public option because it was

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Speaker 1: two left wing. Now the moderate Democrats, the responsible, prudent,

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Speaker 1: pragmatic Democrats, are the one supporting a public option, and

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Speaker 1: so all the fire, all the incoming is being drawn

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Speaker 1: by the Bernie plan, and that's making a lot of

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Speaker 1: these more these other plans that are more incremental in

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Speaker 1: advanceding government control healthcare system seem reasonable by comparison. And

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Speaker 1: by the way, well, what is the difference forever were

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Speaker 1: listening between between the Medicare for all plan and having

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Speaker 1: a public option? Yeah, great question. So a public option

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Speaker 1: basically says that there's going to be a Medicare like

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Speaker 1: option for people with private insurance. Now, so let's say

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Speaker 1: you can get insurance from your employer today. The value

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Speaker 1: of that insurance is deducted from your paycheck before you

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Speaker 1: get it pre tax Medicare. If it's a Medicare like plan,

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Speaker 1: could be structured so that it's cheaper to you and

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Speaker 1: to the government than your employer based coverage. The idea

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Speaker 1: would be there would be an option. You could have

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Speaker 1: an optional government run healthcare plan, but you wouldn't be

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Speaker 1: forced to choose it. You could keep your private health

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Speaker 1: insurance if you want, but there would be a government

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Speaker 1: run plan that would effectively compete with your private health insurance.

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Speaker 1: Whether in the individual market where you buy insurance on

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Speaker 1: your own or the employer based market. So that's something

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Speaker 1: that is more pragmatic, is not insane in the in

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Speaker 1: the way that Bernie's plan is. It theoretically could uh,

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Speaker 1: you know work in the sense of it wouldn't be

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Speaker 1: dramatically disruptive to the existing system, but it would represent

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Speaker 1: an incremental increase in the role of government control of

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Speaker 1: the health insurance system. Now would would employers be tempted

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Speaker 1: then to say, well, we're not going to give our

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Speaker 1: employees health insurance and just go get yourself the public option, folks?

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Speaker 1: So might be some might be particularly I think smaller

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Speaker 1: businesses or startups or you know, entrepreneurial companies that don't

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Speaker 1: want to take on that responsibility. I think the big

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Speaker 1: fortune five hundred type companies will still offer an employer

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Speaker 1: based coverage because they see it as a retention tool

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01:20:21,240 --> 01:20:23,800
Speaker 1: and they've got the money floating around in their in

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Speaker 1: their income statements to be able to do that. But

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of smaller companies would say, you

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Speaker 1: know what, health insurance is too expensive, it's too volatile

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Speaker 1: as an expense for us. Let's just let the government

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Speaker 1: do it. And that's what I mean when I say

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Speaker 1: it's incremental, less disruptive, more gradual. But the end result

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Speaker 1: is more people on government run health insurance. And let

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Speaker 1: me ask you, I mean, is that the you know,

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Speaker 1: Kamala Harris kind of has this ten year transition plan

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Speaker 1: that she sounds like she's one foot in, one foot

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Speaker 1: out of medicare for all. You know, are there any

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Speaker 1: Democrats that are in that top tier or five, you

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Speaker 1: know for put aside, actually some of the same ones,

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Speaker 1: like Delaney and some of the others that can do maths.

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Speaker 1: Are any of the top five or six contenders coming

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Speaker 1: up with plans that worry you because they sound really

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Speaker 1: are they sound realistic enough that they could actually sell

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Speaker 1: this to the public and make it happen. Joe Biden, So,

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden is basically that's his plan. His plan is

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Speaker 1: build on the Affordable Care Act Obamacare, introduce a public option,

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Speaker 1: but otherwise be modestly, you know, don't don't be super disruptive,

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Speaker 1: only only make incremental changes. And that's what I mean

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Speaker 1: when I say, like all the you know, you watch

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Speaker 1: Fox News every day, it's all about socialism, it's all

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01:21:42,120 --> 01:21:45,080
Speaker 1: about single parent it's all about Bernie and Look, Bernie's

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01:21:45,120 --> 01:21:48,000
Speaker 1: plan is totally crazy. So I understand that it kind

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Speaker 1: of triggers us to talk about Bernie's plan. But at

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Speaker 1: the end of the day, if all we're doing is

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Speaker 1: complaining about bernie Care and we're ignoring the smarter and

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01:21:58,800 --> 01:22:02,799
Speaker 1: more prudent Democrats that are talking about gradually expanding government

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Speaker 1: control of the health insurance system, we're making a strategic mistake.

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Speaker 1: Roy he is the president of the Foundation for Research

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Speaker 1: on Equal Opportunity. OVI, can you stick around for a second. Okay,

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Speaker 1: all right, guys, we're back here with Ovic Roy. He's

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Speaker 1: the president for Research on Equal at the Foundation for

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Speaker 1: Research on Equal Opportunity. All right, so you're just almost

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Speaker 1: before and I wanted to get a little deeper into

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Speaker 1: this that you have Joe Biden who's got this incremental

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01:22:29,960 --> 01:22:32,960
Speaker 1: plan with that that institutes a public option, it builds

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01:22:33,000 --> 01:22:36,200
Speaker 1: on Obamacare. I mean, just one thing for context here,

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Speaker 1: isn't Obamacare really just a shell of what the law

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Speaker 1: was supposed to be the first time around? I mean,

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Speaker 1: weren't they initially gonna affect the overall healthcare market, but

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Speaker 1: then they just kind of went down to the individual market.

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Speaker 1: I mean, before we get to the Biden and the

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Speaker 1: public option. How much of Obamacare has even really been enacted, Well,

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Speaker 1: I mean, honestly most of it. There's some key changes, right,

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Speaker 1: So the repeal of the individual mandate is an important change,

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Speaker 1: and there's some other tweaks here and there. But the

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Speaker 1: fact is, you know, it's a two thousand page bill,

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Speaker 1: nineteen hundred and ninety of those pages they're still the

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Speaker 1: log lands. So most of Obamacare is still is still

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01:23:15,880 --> 01:23:19,519
Speaker 1: active and still out there. It's just a lot of

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01:23:19,720 --> 01:23:22,040
Speaker 1: a lot of wonky stuff that maybe doesn't get as

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01:23:22,120 --> 01:23:25,280
Speaker 1: much coverage in the mainstream media. And so it really

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Speaker 1: did mostly affect the individual market, right mostly mostly, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean they're also remember that the so basically the

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Speaker 1: way Obamacare works, it affects the individual market to your point,

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Speaker 1: people who buy health and charts on their own, who

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Speaker 1: don't get it from their employer. It also massively expands

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Speaker 1: and medicaid, so that really affects state budgets in particular,

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Speaker 1: biggest states are having to take on these massive liabilities

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Speaker 1: of expanding their medicaid programs. It increased taxes by one

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Speaker 1: point two trillion dollars. All those tax increases pretty much

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Speaker 1: are all the books. So there's a lot of stuff

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Speaker 1: in Obamacare. And it also did apply some regulations, new

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Speaker 1: regulations to the employer based markets that weren't there before.

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Speaker 1: So it did affect pretty much everybody in one way

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Speaker 1: or another. But you're right that the most dramatic change,

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Speaker 1: excuse me, changes work to people who bought insurance by

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Speaker 1: insurance on the run. And those changes are by and

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01:24:17,880 --> 01:24:20,800
Speaker 1: large style in the books, except for the repeal of

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01:24:20,800 --> 01:24:26,000
Speaker 1: the individual mandate. So Joe Biden is the leading Canada.

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Speaker 1: Now if the Democrats by all the polls, a lot

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01:24:27,800 --> 01:24:29,280
Speaker 1: of people say that he's just going to have to

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01:24:29,280 --> 01:24:31,000
Speaker 1: just ride this out and he'll be the front runner,

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01:24:31,040 --> 01:24:33,879
Speaker 1: he'll be the nominee. If he did become the president

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01:24:33,920 --> 01:24:35,880
Speaker 1: and the public option, let's just say that Congress was

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Speaker 1: able to do this, became Democrat majority, etc. If the

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Speaker 1: public option becomes a law of the land, how does

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Speaker 1: the public option go bad? Well, they're actually, you know,

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01:24:46,560 --> 01:24:50,599
Speaker 1: there's an optimistic case and a pessimistic case for how

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01:24:50,600 --> 01:24:53,960
Speaker 1: the public option would work. We've talked about the pessimistic case,

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01:24:54,040 --> 01:25:00,280
Speaker 1: which is that the public option would gradually increase its

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01:25:00,320 --> 01:25:05,400
Speaker 1: market share because it involves price controls and other regulations

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01:25:05,400 --> 01:25:09,160
Speaker 1: that stack the deck in its favor. There's an optimistic case, though,

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01:25:09,640 --> 01:25:12,160
Speaker 1: and that is to point to what I just described

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01:25:12,280 --> 01:25:15,760
Speaker 1: in the last segment about Medicare advantage. In the Medicare program,

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Speaker 1: if you're over sixty five today, you have a choice

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01:25:18,680 --> 01:25:22,639
Speaker 1: between the traditional Medicare program, which is a single payer,

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01:25:22,760 --> 01:25:25,439
Speaker 1: government run program, you could call it a public option

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01:25:25,520 --> 01:25:30,320
Speaker 1: even and the private health insurance plan that you can

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01:25:30,360 --> 01:25:34,200
Speaker 1: buy through Medicare advantage. And over time, the Medicare advantage plans,

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01:25:34,200 --> 01:25:38,559
Speaker 1: the private plans have successfully competed against the public option

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01:25:38,600 --> 01:25:41,960
Speaker 1: in Medicare and are basically gaining a market share every day.

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01:25:42,520 --> 01:25:46,040
Speaker 1: So it's possible that even if there's a public option

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01:25:46,400 --> 01:25:49,920
Speaker 1: in the rest of the health insurance market, that the

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01:25:50,040 --> 01:25:54,760
Speaker 1: private plans adapt to that and actually do a better

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01:25:54,840 --> 01:25:57,680
Speaker 1: job of competing against the price. So there is a

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01:25:57,680 --> 01:25:59,880
Speaker 1: case you made that the public option might actually not

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01:26:00,120 --> 01:26:02,720
Speaker 1: be a disaster, is what you're telling me. Yeah, I

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01:26:02,760 --> 01:26:05,920
Speaker 1: am no, I mean, it's not necessarily a disaster, but

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01:26:06,080 --> 01:26:09,040
Speaker 1: it definitely is an expansion of the role of government

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01:26:09,080 --> 01:26:12,160
Speaker 1: in the private health insurance market. Well more for you,

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01:26:12,320 --> 01:26:14,400
Speaker 1: vic Why you know, when you come up against a

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01:26:14,400 --> 01:26:17,960
Speaker 1: lot of very committed liberals. People on the left, though,

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01:26:18,000 --> 01:26:20,439
Speaker 1: they'll just say to you, you know, every other you know,

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01:26:20,520 --> 01:26:22,519
Speaker 1: this is actually a Bernie Sanders line. Every other developed

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01:26:22,520 --> 01:26:25,040
Speaker 1: country the world has figured this out and we haven't.

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01:26:25,640 --> 01:26:27,719
Speaker 1: What is your answer that, I mean, why why can't

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01:26:27,760 --> 01:26:32,120
Speaker 1: we be Sweden when it comes to healthcare? Well, broadly speaking,

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01:26:32,200 --> 01:26:34,640
Speaker 1: I agree with Bernie Sanders on that we are the

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01:26:34,680 --> 01:26:37,960
Speaker 1: wealthiest country in the world. We actually spend more on

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01:26:38,160 --> 01:26:41,720
Speaker 1: government healthcare in America for capita than most of those

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01:26:41,720 --> 01:26:45,559
Speaker 1: other countries, including Sweden, and we don't have everyone with

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01:26:45,600 --> 01:26:49,840
Speaker 1: health insurance. And that's because for seventy five years, decisions

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01:26:49,880 --> 01:26:53,800
Speaker 1: that in particular Congress has made that have driven the

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01:26:53,920 --> 01:26:57,920
Speaker 1: cost of healthcare out of control, have made it impossible

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01:26:58,000 --> 01:27:00,760
Speaker 1: for any from tens of millions of Americans are ford

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01:27:00,800 --> 01:27:03,800
Speaker 1: health insurance. So this is a problem is that, you know,

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01:27:04,120 --> 01:27:07,559
Speaker 1: it's not We don't have a free market, capitalist healthcare

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01:27:07,560 --> 01:27:10,280
Speaker 1: system today. This is where Bernie is wrong. Bernie's argument

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01:27:10,320 --> 01:27:13,160
Speaker 1: is that the reason that thirty million people are uninsured

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01:27:13,200 --> 01:27:16,479
Speaker 1: in Americas because of capitalists. No, the reason why thirty

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01:27:16,479 --> 01:27:19,040
Speaker 1: million people are uninsured in America and why eighty million

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01:27:19,120 --> 01:27:22,600
Speaker 1: more struggled afford their health insurance premiums every month is

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01:27:22,640 --> 01:27:26,479
Speaker 1: not because of capitalism. It's because of federal intervention in

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01:27:26,560 --> 01:27:30,800
Speaker 1: health insurance market that have distored them so beyond recognition

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01:27:31,040 --> 01:27:33,559
Speaker 1: that nobody can that so many people can't afford their

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01:27:33,560 --> 01:27:36,040
Speaker 1: health insurance, so we need to reform that. I think

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01:27:36,040 --> 01:27:40,000
Speaker 1: conservatives make a mistake when they say, you know, the

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01:27:40,160 --> 01:27:43,839
Speaker 1: current system is a free market, and we're against everybody

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01:27:43,880 --> 01:27:47,240
Speaker 1: having health insurance, because that's obviously social. No, there are

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01:27:47,280 --> 01:27:50,559
Speaker 1: countries out there. Switzerland is an example. Singapore is another

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01:27:50,920 --> 01:27:54,640
Speaker 1: that have more market oriented systems than the US has,

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01:27:54,760 --> 01:27:57,919
Speaker 1: and they cover everybody because health insurance in those countries

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01:27:58,000 --> 01:28:01,360
Speaker 1: is cheaper because they didn't us up their health insurance markets.

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01:28:01,360 --> 01:28:05,000
Speaker 1: The way, we have a look at that, so we

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01:28:05,040 --> 01:28:06,920
Speaker 1: can we can be sweetens what you're telling it. We'd

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01:28:06,920 --> 01:28:10,400
Speaker 1: have to pay much higher taxes. No, actually, actually there

1544
01:28:10,479 --> 01:28:12,320
Speaker 1: is a way, And you know my thing tank, the

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01:28:12,400 --> 01:28:15,519
Speaker 1: Foundation for Research on Equal Opportunity, we've put out a

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01:28:15,560 --> 01:28:19,360
Speaker 1: plan called Affordable Healthcare for Every Generation. You can find

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01:28:19,360 --> 01:28:22,000
Speaker 1: it on our website which is freeopt dot org, Free

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01:28:22,560 --> 01:28:27,320
Speaker 1: opp dot org. That outline exactly actually in a lot

1549
01:28:27,360 --> 01:28:29,920
Speaker 1: of detail, not just an outline, but in deep detail

1550
01:28:30,479 --> 01:28:33,000
Speaker 1: how you could take the gammission of the healthcare system

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01:28:33,040 --> 01:28:35,559
Speaker 1: we have and reform it in a way in which

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01:28:35,680 --> 01:28:39,600
Speaker 1: is entirely about private health insurance and private choice is

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01:28:39,640 --> 01:28:44,040
Speaker 1: an individual choice and market. But where everybody in America

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01:28:44,080 --> 01:28:46,639
Speaker 1: could afford a health insurance plan and have health insurance

1555
01:28:46,760 --> 01:28:50,440
Speaker 1: and no one would risk going bankrupt because of medical bills,

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01:28:50,600 --> 01:28:53,040
Speaker 1: you can do that. So this is this is the

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01:28:53,120 --> 01:28:57,320
Speaker 1: key thing. Republicans and conservatives should not concede to the

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01:28:57,439 --> 01:29:01,320
Speaker 1: left that the only way to achieve universal health insurance

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01:29:01,760 --> 01:29:03,360
Speaker 1: is to have a government brunt us. And we would

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01:29:03,360 --> 01:29:05,320
Speaker 1: never say that about cell phone. We'd never say you

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01:29:05,360 --> 01:29:07,240
Speaker 1: have to have a government plan for every American to

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01:29:07,280 --> 01:29:09,680
Speaker 1: have a smart phone. We would never say you need

1563
01:29:09,760 --> 01:29:11,839
Speaker 1: there needs to be a government plan so every American

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01:29:11,880 --> 01:29:14,400
Speaker 1: that can have a laptop. So why is it that

1565
01:29:14,439 --> 01:29:16,880
Speaker 1: we've accepted the arguments the only way for every American

1566
01:29:16,920 --> 01:29:21,320
Speaker 1: and health insurance is through government. Capitalism, free markets, innovation.

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01:29:21,760 --> 01:29:25,040
Speaker 1: Those are the things that make healthcare less expensive, just

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01:29:25,080 --> 01:29:28,680
Speaker 1: the way they make everything else in our lives less expensive. Oh,

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01:29:28,760 --> 01:29:31,800
Speaker 1: vic Roy, everybody, the guy knows the healthcare stuff, as

1570
01:29:31,840 --> 01:29:34,360
Speaker 1: you've probably figured out by now, he's the president at

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01:29:34,400 --> 01:29:38,639
Speaker 1: the Foundation for Research on Equal Opportunity free op dot org.

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Speaker 1: Oh Vic. Great to have you all, my friend, Thanks

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01:29:40,640 --> 01:29:44,839
Speaker 1: for sharing your expertise. Thanks Bud. Team. Millennials are supposed

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01:29:44,840 --> 01:29:47,080
Speaker 1: to be a bunch of commies in the making. We

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01:29:47,120 --> 01:29:49,320
Speaker 1: always hear about how the millennials, of which I am

1576
01:29:49,360 --> 01:29:52,120
Speaker 1: a gray beard, as you know, But the younger millennials,

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01:29:52,120 --> 01:29:55,960
Speaker 1: the young whipper snapper millennials, they love socialism. Well, not

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01:29:56,040 --> 01:29:58,559
Speaker 1: all of them. That's the good news. We have Morgan

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01:29:58,880 --> 01:30:02,200
Speaker 1: Zeggers joining us now. She's the founder and CEO of

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01:30:02,520 --> 01:30:06,000
Speaker 1: Young Americans Against Socialism. More than great to have you on.

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01:30:07,000 --> 01:30:08,760
Speaker 1: Thank you for having me about. I'm glad to be here.

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01:30:09,120 --> 01:30:11,080
Speaker 1: All right, So tell me what first off, what was

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01:30:11,080 --> 01:30:13,280
Speaker 1: your reaction to the debates As a young person that's

1584
01:30:13,280 --> 01:30:15,120
Speaker 1: going to be saddled with the crazy debts that these

1585
01:30:15,160 --> 01:30:17,760
Speaker 1: libs want to run up, what do you think? Yeah,

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01:30:17,760 --> 01:30:21,839
Speaker 1: as an American, definitely disappointed. As somebody who pays attention

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01:30:21,840 --> 01:30:24,280
Speaker 1: to politics, definitely not shocked at all. I mean, that's

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01:30:24,320 --> 01:30:26,720
Speaker 1: the same whether they've been using forever, promising a lot

1589
01:30:26,720 --> 01:30:30,120
Speaker 1: of free stuff sounds really great, and it's definitely misleading

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01:30:30,120 --> 01:30:32,640
Speaker 1: this country and the youth into thinking that socialism is

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01:30:32,640 --> 01:30:34,960
Speaker 1: a good idea. Wow, and tell me a bit about

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01:30:34,960 --> 01:30:37,920
Speaker 1: your organization, Young Americans Against Socialism. How long you guys

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01:30:37,920 --> 01:30:40,280
Speaker 1: been around? What are you doing kids? So we actually

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01:30:40,360 --> 01:30:43,240
Speaker 1: launched this month Young Americans Against Socialism, and I'm very

1595
01:30:43,240 --> 01:30:45,960
Speaker 1: proud of it. For me, I'm very frustrated by the

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01:30:46,000 --> 01:30:48,880
Speaker 1: fact that a majority of my generation, young Americans should

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01:30:48,920 --> 01:30:52,719
Speaker 1: now choose socialism over capitalism. I think it's a complete nonsense.

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01:30:53,040 --> 01:30:55,120
Speaker 1: And so what I also know about millennials is that

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01:30:55,320 --> 01:30:58,000
Speaker 1: ninety percent of them has social media accain. So I'm

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01:30:58,000 --> 01:31:01,160
Speaker 1: going to change the way young Americans think. We are

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01:31:01,200 --> 01:31:03,640
Speaker 1: doing this. It's a movement. We have been traveling the

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01:31:03,720 --> 01:31:07,240
Speaker 1: country interviewing people who have escaped from socialism. People. We

1603
01:31:07,280 --> 01:31:10,400
Speaker 1: have somebody who windsurfed from Cuba to the Florida Key,

1604
01:31:10,479 --> 01:31:13,360
Speaker 1: the Press, the ocean ninety miles just to escape seat

1605
01:31:13,400 --> 01:31:16,839
Speaker 1: hell that socialism is. And we're putting those powerful stories

1606
01:31:16,840 --> 01:31:20,080
Speaker 1: on short two minutes viral videos and they are going

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01:31:20,120 --> 01:31:23,000
Speaker 1: to spread like wildfire and social media and completely change

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01:31:23,080 --> 01:31:25,800
Speaker 1: when my generation thinks about this ideology and NAT is

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01:31:25,800 --> 01:31:29,040
Speaker 1: going to save the future of this country. Have you

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01:31:29,080 --> 01:31:30,720
Speaker 1: had any success in trying to give in some of

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01:31:30,720 --> 01:31:35,240
Speaker 1: your millennial peers to give up the hammer and sickle. Unfortunately,

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01:31:35,320 --> 01:31:37,800
Speaker 1: it's very, very tough, and so I would love to say,

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01:31:37,840 --> 01:31:39,360
Speaker 1: you know, I'm going to deal a Swiss guest flow

1614
01:31:39,400 --> 01:31:42,080
Speaker 1: to socialism, but unfortunately it's it's going to be a

1615
01:31:42,160 --> 01:31:44,360
Speaker 1: long haul. It's going to be a fundamental change that

1616
01:31:44,360 --> 01:31:45,880
Speaker 1: we're going to have to work on, changing the hearts

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01:31:45,880 --> 01:31:48,640
Speaker 1: and mind. It's what inspired me. Actually. I went to

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01:31:48,680 --> 01:31:52,559
Speaker 1: American University in Washington, DC, and the last year that

1619
01:31:52,600 --> 01:31:54,479
Speaker 1: I lived down there, I moved into a house off

1620
01:31:54,479 --> 01:31:56,360
Speaker 1: campus and some of the girls I hadn't met yet.

1621
01:31:56,360 --> 01:31:58,760
Speaker 1: So I went around and I introduced myself to some

1622
01:31:58,840 --> 01:32:01,880
Speaker 1: of the girls and into the fun draws room and

1623
01:32:01,960 --> 01:32:04,800
Speaker 1: I looked on the wall and I'm like, this so weird.

1624
01:32:05,800 --> 01:32:10,080
Speaker 1: It looks like Fidel Castro. Oh looks like now Zay Dong,

1625
01:32:11,120 --> 01:32:13,680
Speaker 1: Karl Marks, Oh my god. And I'm looking and I'm

1626
01:32:13,680 --> 01:32:16,519
Speaker 1: looking and I'm seek so and Lennon on her goal

1627
01:32:16,960 --> 01:32:19,960
Speaker 1: and I go, uh, what's that? And she looked to

1628
01:32:20,040 --> 01:32:25,599
Speaker 1: me and she goes, oh, I'm the communition. Oh yeah. Uh.

1629
01:32:25,920 --> 01:32:29,280
Speaker 1: And so that right there, I learned so much. I'm

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01:32:29,320 --> 01:32:32,120
Speaker 1: really thankful for that experience because I learned that my

1631
01:32:32,160 --> 01:32:34,960
Speaker 1: communist roommate, as insane as I thought her ideas were,

1632
01:32:35,600 --> 01:32:37,200
Speaker 1: she ended up being one of the kindest friends I

1633
01:32:37,280 --> 01:32:39,920
Speaker 1: ever had. And that's the lesson about my generation. Like

1634
01:32:40,000 --> 01:32:42,639
Speaker 1: a lot of people in my generation, my roommate loved

1635
01:32:42,880 --> 01:32:46,559
Speaker 1: her friends, her family, her community, and her country. The

1636
01:32:46,680 --> 01:32:49,240
Speaker 1: only problem is that she truly, deep down in her heart,

1637
01:32:49,600 --> 01:32:53,840
Speaker 1: believed about socialism and communism and ideas rooted in Marxism.

1638
01:32:54,080 --> 01:32:57,240
Speaker 1: They're going to change the situation that many Americans are

1639
01:32:57,240 --> 01:32:59,080
Speaker 1: facing and making. I hope you have a lot of

1640
01:32:59,200 --> 01:33:03,240
Speaker 1: success with yourgization changing people's minds about that. Morgan Zagger's Everybody,

1641
01:33:03,320 --> 01:33:07,200
Speaker 1: founder and CEO of Young Americans Against Socialism. Follow her

1642
01:33:07,240 --> 01:33:10,880
Speaker 1: on Twitter. Morgan, thank you so much. Having a day.

1643
01:33:11,200 --> 01:33:14,040
Speaker 1: Ain't no party like a Team Buck party, because a

1644
01:33:14,160 --> 01:33:23,719
Speaker 1: Team Buck party, don't stop. Yeah, we got buck turned

1645
01:33:23,760 --> 01:33:40,240
Speaker 1: up to eleven. It's time for roll call. Indeed, it

1646
01:33:40,439 --> 01:33:44,479
Speaker 1: is roll call time, everybody here. I am about to

1647
01:33:44,479 --> 01:33:48,040
Speaker 1: do the roll call in Los Angeles, no less very

1648
01:33:48,080 --> 01:33:51,639
Speaker 1: exciting or exciting stuff out here in La La Land

1649
01:33:52,439 --> 01:33:56,559
Speaker 1: in preparation for the Bill Mars Show tomorrow. I can

1650
01:33:56,720 --> 01:34:01,280
Speaker 1: tell you that it is going to be feisty, so

1651
01:34:01,680 --> 01:34:05,040
Speaker 1: that that is definitely the case with that show. I think, yeah,

1652
01:34:05,040 --> 01:34:06,840
Speaker 1: it should be really good looking forward to it, so

1653
01:34:06,920 --> 01:34:09,840
Speaker 1: please do. I like having the team backing me up,

1654
01:34:10,320 --> 01:34:13,040
Speaker 1: even if I can't see you while we're doing it.

1655
01:34:14,760 --> 01:34:20,360
Speaker 1: Facebook dot Com slash buck Sexton. Here we go, let's

1656
01:34:20,360 --> 01:34:23,760
Speaker 1: get to it, Brian. Last week you mentioned nicknames for

1657
01:34:24,000 --> 01:34:28,559
Speaker 1: Mark and Mike, but you referenced Snrdley as a nickname.

1658
01:34:28,760 --> 01:34:32,479
Speaker 1: I believe it is both Snrdley and he played in

1659
01:34:32,960 --> 01:34:37,920
Speaker 1: the NFL. Well, you may know something that I don't know,

1660
01:34:38,040 --> 01:34:40,760
Speaker 1: but I know mister Snurdley personally and I know his

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01:34:40,840 --> 01:34:45,400
Speaker 1: real name, so I don't know. I think I don't

1662
01:34:45,400 --> 01:34:47,080
Speaker 1: want to give away any trade secrets though. I'm not

1663
01:34:47,120 --> 01:34:50,519
Speaker 1: really sure what's going on here, but I'm gonna leave

1664
01:34:50,520 --> 01:34:52,280
Speaker 1: it there. I can tell you this, mister Snardley is

1665
01:34:52,280 --> 01:34:56,679
Speaker 1: a great man. He's a great, great patriot. Has given

1666
01:34:56,680 --> 01:34:59,880
Speaker 1: me fantastic advice on radio how to do radio in

1667
01:34:59,920 --> 01:35:05,000
Speaker 1: the past, and uh, it's really really solid, dude, Sean. Right,

1668
01:35:05,600 --> 01:35:09,840
Speaker 1: where did the billions of federal dollars go? Sean? I

1669
01:35:09,840 --> 01:35:11,800
Speaker 1: I don't know which billions you're talking about, but the

1670
01:35:11,840 --> 01:35:15,639
Speaker 1: government spends a lot of our money, and so yeah,

1671
01:35:16,320 --> 01:35:18,880
Speaker 1: could be any number of things. That's I think that's

1672
01:35:18,880 --> 01:35:24,400
Speaker 1: fair to say. Let's see Russell Rights. I've seen talents

1673
01:35:24,400 --> 01:35:27,880
Speaker 1: on The Walking Dead that then that looked better than

1674
01:35:28,080 --> 01:35:31,360
Speaker 1: your shot of Baltimore. So you know, I showed you

1675
01:35:31,400 --> 01:35:34,280
Speaker 1: this stuff from Baltimore yesterday on Instagram, and those of

1676
01:35:34,280 --> 01:35:36,720
Speaker 1: you listening team, I need you all to follow me

1677
01:35:36,760 --> 01:35:38,680
Speaker 1: on Instagram, okay, because I'm using it more and more.

1678
01:35:38,680 --> 01:35:41,080
Speaker 1: I'm trying to be one of the cool kids that

1679
01:35:41,120 --> 01:35:45,479
Speaker 1: knows the Instagram and can use it to communicate with

1680
01:35:45,520 --> 01:35:48,599
Speaker 1: all of you. So it's just Buck sex that on Instagram.

1681
01:35:48,640 --> 01:35:51,000
Speaker 1: They don't be one, the one and only, although there

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01:35:51,000 --> 01:35:53,000
Speaker 1: are other Buck Sextons running around, believe it or not.

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01:35:53,600 --> 01:35:55,760
Speaker 1: But so here's here's the truth about Baltimore. I've I

1684
01:35:55,800 --> 01:35:58,920
Speaker 1: spent a lot of time there, um, at least for me.

1685
01:35:58,960 --> 01:36:02,640
Speaker 1: I mean I spend a day a week in Baltimore

1686
01:36:02,840 --> 01:36:08,040
Speaker 1: for the better part of six months, maybe getting getting

1687
01:36:08,080 --> 01:36:10,240
Speaker 1: close to a year all in, at least at least

1688
01:36:10,240 --> 01:36:12,080
Speaker 1: for about six months. I'd say I was there once

1689
01:36:12,120 --> 01:36:15,479
Speaker 1: a week, all day. And it's not a very big city,

1690
01:36:15,560 --> 01:36:17,920
Speaker 1: so you spend enough time there. And I've been there

1691
01:36:17,920 --> 01:36:20,960
Speaker 1: for other events and things than just doing work. But

1692
01:36:21,040 --> 01:36:22,479
Speaker 1: you spend enough time there you get a pretty good

1693
01:36:22,479 --> 01:36:24,600
Speaker 1: feel for it. There are and I will tell you

1694
01:36:24,640 --> 01:36:28,000
Speaker 1: this and all, honestly, there are some beautiful parts of Baltimore.

1695
01:36:28,520 --> 01:36:30,840
Speaker 1: The Harbor is very nice. It's a little touristy and

1696
01:36:31,120 --> 01:36:35,400
Speaker 1: built up. The harbor is very nice. But the gosh,

1697
01:36:35,439 --> 01:36:37,479
Speaker 1: I'm actually forgetting the name of the of the area now,

1698
01:36:37,479 --> 01:36:39,519
Speaker 1: but there's one area that's very close to the train

1699
01:36:39,560 --> 01:36:44,519
Speaker 1: station that has these beautiful buildings and it's really architecturally interesting.

1700
01:36:44,880 --> 01:36:47,880
Speaker 1: The problem of Baltimore is you walk five minutes and

1701
01:36:47,960 --> 01:36:51,679
Speaker 1: I mean five minutes in the wrong direction in many

1702
01:36:51,760 --> 01:36:53,559
Speaker 1: parts of town, including nice ones, and you're in a

1703
01:36:53,680 --> 01:36:55,519
Speaker 1: very bad part of town. And when you have a

1704
01:36:55,560 --> 01:36:59,800
Speaker 1: city of that size and you have that kind of

1705
01:36:59,800 --> 01:37:04,840
Speaker 1: poverty and violence condensed into a relatively small area, what

1706
01:37:04,920 --> 01:37:07,360
Speaker 1: it really means is that there's no part of the

1707
01:37:07,360 --> 01:37:12,000
Speaker 1: city that ever feels particularly safe. Bad things happen in

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01:37:12,000 --> 01:37:17,160
Speaker 1: Baltimore all over Baltimore because the drug dealers, gang bangers,

1709
01:37:17,200 --> 01:37:20,840
Speaker 1: the people that are tearing at community apart. They don't

1710
01:37:20,880 --> 01:37:23,240
Speaker 1: just stay on the one corner where they're selling drugs.

1711
01:37:23,240 --> 01:37:25,639
Speaker 1: They obviously move around the city. It's not a very

1712
01:37:25,640 --> 01:37:29,400
Speaker 1: big city, and so you feel less safe in neighborhoods

1713
01:37:29,400 --> 01:37:31,280
Speaker 1: in Baltimore than you would, I think in other cities,

1714
01:37:31,280 --> 01:37:35,120
Speaker 1: where it's just more spread out and the separation between

1715
01:37:35,120 --> 01:37:37,639
Speaker 1: a good area and a bad area is a little

1716
01:37:37,640 --> 01:37:41,120
Speaker 1: bit more pronounced. In Baltimore, you're on a block where

1717
01:37:41,160 --> 01:37:43,840
Speaker 1: there are nice houses that people are clearly taken care

1718
01:37:43,880 --> 01:37:46,600
Speaker 1: of and take pride in. You walk two blocks and

1719
01:37:46,680 --> 01:37:49,439
Speaker 1: it is all vacance and people selling drugs in broad

1720
01:37:49,520 --> 01:37:52,840
Speaker 1: daylight on the street, which is what I saw. What's

1721
01:37:52,880 --> 01:37:54,360
Speaker 1: so interesting to me is that there were so many

1722
01:37:54,400 --> 01:37:57,760
Speaker 1: people in Baltimore who were longtime residents. I actually had

1723
01:37:57,800 --> 01:38:00,880
Speaker 1: dinner with someone who and as wife, we're both born

1724
01:38:00,920 --> 01:38:03,760
Speaker 1: and raised in Baltimore, and so they've lived there for

1725
01:38:04,240 --> 01:38:08,320
Speaker 1: going on fifty years, and they said, it's been a mess.

1726
01:38:09,040 --> 01:38:11,360
Speaker 1: It's just been a mess forever. There's never been good

1727
01:38:11,360 --> 01:38:14,160
Speaker 1: government in Baltimore. It's never worked the way it should

1728
01:38:14,680 --> 01:38:18,080
Speaker 1: as a as a city. And it's a shame because

1729
01:38:18,080 --> 01:38:20,400
Speaker 1: there's a lot of good stuff there. And I know

1730
01:38:20,439 --> 01:38:22,439
Speaker 1: that right now you're people are just breaking this down

1731
01:38:22,479 --> 01:38:26,479
Speaker 1: into the binary, but it's on the water. It was

1732
01:38:26,520 --> 01:38:29,240
Speaker 1: a very active Port. There's some very beautiful old buildings there.

1733
01:38:29,640 --> 01:38:31,160
Speaker 1: Tell you this, if you're willing to deal with the

1734
01:38:31,200 --> 01:38:35,040
Speaker 1: high crime and the the dysfunction of the city, you

1735
01:38:35,080 --> 01:38:37,760
Speaker 1: can buy up some really nice property in Baltimore for

1736
01:38:37,800 --> 01:38:40,800
Speaker 1: not a lot of money, unlike in DC, where I

1737
01:38:40,840 --> 01:38:42,840
Speaker 1: mean it's better than New York. But all right, I'm

1738
01:38:42,880 --> 01:38:45,840
Speaker 1: getting off the getting off the rails a little bit there.

1739
01:38:45,920 --> 01:38:48,200
Speaker 1: But yeah, I was in Baltimore yesterday. It was very interesting.

1740
01:38:49,479 --> 01:38:53,880
Speaker 1: Mark asks, who books your show guests? That's that's producer Mike.

1741
01:38:54,800 --> 01:38:57,960
Speaker 1: Producer Mike is the He is the alpha and the

1742
01:38:58,000 --> 01:39:01,400
Speaker 1: omega of show guests as as guests are concerned. So

1743
01:39:01,439 --> 01:39:03,680
Speaker 1: you just got to get in touch with producer producer Mike,

1744
01:39:03,760 --> 01:39:07,479
Speaker 1: and he determines which guests live and which guests don't

1745
01:39:08,400 --> 01:39:12,360
Speaker 1: on air, so to speak. Let's see what we have here.

1746
01:39:12,720 --> 01:39:16,840
Speaker 1: Jeff whoa buck. My name is Jeff. I'm a truck

1747
01:39:16,920 --> 01:39:18,439
Speaker 1: driver listening to the podcast, so I know him a

1748
01:39:18,520 --> 01:39:21,160
Speaker 1: day late. I'm also an Air Force veteran. You were

1749
01:39:21,160 --> 01:39:23,599
Speaker 1: talking about concealed carry and how it changes the equation.

1750
01:39:24,160 --> 01:39:26,160
Speaker 1: I was talking about brother down at Alabama, about the

1751
01:39:26,160 --> 01:39:29,320
Speaker 1: shooting in Gilroy. He said, yeah, that happened here. As

1752
01:39:29,320 --> 01:39:31,800
Speaker 1: soon as that guy started firing his weapon, half the

1753
01:39:31,800 --> 01:39:34,120
Speaker 1: people at that place would have drawn down on him.

1754
01:39:34,640 --> 01:39:36,600
Speaker 1: You look, as there's not a lot of mass shootings

1755
01:39:37,000 --> 01:39:39,240
Speaker 1: in Alabama and George in the Deep South. They all

1756
01:39:39,280 --> 01:39:41,360
Speaker 1: have concealed carry. It's not hard to get one down here.

1757
01:39:41,600 --> 01:39:43,519
Speaker 1: A little bit of a background check, two weeks you

1758
01:39:43,560 --> 01:39:48,439
Speaker 1: have your concealed carry license. Keep up the fight shields high, Jeff,

1759
01:39:48,479 --> 01:39:52,840
Speaker 1: Thanks so much, Mannett. Look, the best evidence of this

1760
01:39:52,880 --> 01:39:55,760
Speaker 1: that I can point to is all compiled in John

1761
01:39:55,880 --> 01:39:58,240
Speaker 1: Lotts and John John something of a friend. I know

1762
01:39:58,320 --> 01:40:01,920
Speaker 1: John from his work More Guns Less Crime, and it's

1763
01:40:01,920 --> 01:40:04,200
Speaker 1: a very straight it's a very straightforward proposition. It can

1764
01:40:04,400 --> 01:40:06,880
Speaker 1: entirely makes sense. Put yourself in the shoes of being

1765
01:40:06,920 --> 01:40:09,800
Speaker 1: a criminal. Who do you want to target? People that

1766
01:40:09,800 --> 01:40:12,679
Speaker 1: can fight back or people that are helpless? What areas

1767
01:40:12,680 --> 01:40:14,960
Speaker 1: do you want to go? This is why the mass

1768
01:40:15,000 --> 01:40:17,400
Speaker 1: shooting so often happen in gun free zones, as we know,

1769
01:40:17,880 --> 01:40:19,280
Speaker 1: because if you want to do a mass shooting, you

1770
01:40:19,320 --> 01:40:22,200
Speaker 1: want to go somewhere where you're gonna not come up

1771
01:40:22,240 --> 01:40:25,920
Speaker 1: against any unexpected resistance from a good guy or gal

1772
01:40:26,000 --> 01:40:29,720
Speaker 1: with a firearm. There's very clear correlations here we can

1773
01:40:29,800 --> 01:40:31,800
Speaker 1: all understand why it happens the way that it does.

1774
01:40:32,320 --> 01:40:36,000
Speaker 1: And on concealed carry, you know, just think about that process.

1775
01:40:36,080 --> 01:40:39,400
Speaker 1: For a robbery on the street, a carjacking, home invasion,

1776
01:40:40,000 --> 01:40:41,880
Speaker 1: somebody has a handgun that they know how to use.

1777
01:40:42,920 --> 01:40:44,960
Speaker 1: That really makes it a whole lot less fun to

1778
01:40:45,000 --> 01:40:47,040
Speaker 1: be a carjacker or be a home invader, doesn't it.

1779
01:40:47,720 --> 01:40:51,000
Speaker 1: And if you don't know if someone has one or not,

1780
01:40:51,720 --> 01:40:54,920
Speaker 1: that then at least makes you perhaps think twice about

1781
01:40:55,000 --> 01:40:59,200
Speaker 1: what you're illegal plans may be. And that's how it

1782
01:40:59,240 --> 01:41:00,840
Speaker 1: breaks down. And also so you got to think about

1783
01:41:00,920 --> 01:41:03,200
Speaker 1: this way. We may not have a media that likes

1784
01:41:03,240 --> 01:41:05,720
Speaker 1: to cover it. When there's a bad guy who tries

1785
01:41:05,760 --> 01:41:07,800
Speaker 1: to break in the front door and gets you know,

1786
01:41:07,880 --> 01:41:10,240
Speaker 1: lit up by a law abiding civilian who's got a

1787
01:41:10,640 --> 01:41:13,640
Speaker 1: you know, a sag or a glock or whatever. The

1788
01:41:13,680 --> 01:41:17,280
Speaker 1: bad guys here about that, the word gets around. So

1789
01:41:18,000 --> 01:41:19,559
Speaker 1: look and this is what the evidence says. I know,

1790
01:41:19,560 --> 01:41:22,040
Speaker 1: people say, oh, everyone thinks they're John Wayne, and no,

1791
01:41:22,160 --> 01:41:24,760
Speaker 1: it's not that. It's just you know, put yourself in

1792
01:41:24,800 --> 01:41:27,960
Speaker 1: the just do scenario analysis in your own head. It's

1793
01:41:28,000 --> 01:41:29,559
Speaker 1: one of the most important ways I think that you

1794
01:41:29,600 --> 01:41:33,200
Speaker 1: can understand a lot of different policy policy disputes, but

1795
01:41:33,320 --> 01:41:36,559
Speaker 1: especially in self defense situations. Put yourself in the shoes

1796
01:41:36,560 --> 01:41:38,320
Speaker 1: of the bad guys, and then put yourself in your shoes.

1797
01:41:39,840 --> 01:41:43,240
Speaker 1: Let's see what's next on the roll called Sandy, we

1798
01:41:43,280 --> 01:41:45,439
Speaker 1: need to explain the word socialism. For if they control

1799
01:41:45,479 --> 01:41:49,360
Speaker 1: all your money, healthcare, tax is, housing, etc. The more

1800
01:41:49,360 --> 01:41:51,559
Speaker 1: control they have of your life. Well, Sandy, that's why

1801
01:41:51,600 --> 01:41:53,640
Speaker 1: I'm writing a book on socialism, and I'm hoping you

1802
01:41:53,640 --> 01:41:55,360
Speaker 1: will all buy and you'll enjoy reading. It will be

1803
01:41:55,400 --> 01:41:57,519
Speaker 1: out by the either the end of this year or

1804
01:41:57,560 --> 01:42:00,400
Speaker 1: early next year. I think it will be a fun

1805
01:42:00,439 --> 01:42:02,360
Speaker 1: read for you. It's just kind of doing a whole

1806
01:42:02,720 --> 01:42:06,800
Speaker 1: soup to nuts American socialism. That's the that's the plan.

1807
01:42:06,880 --> 01:42:11,320
Speaker 1: I'm already h I would like to say I'm having

1808
01:42:11,360 --> 01:42:13,559
Speaker 1: I'm I'm deep in the middle of the draft right now.

1809
01:42:13,600 --> 01:42:15,559
Speaker 1: So I've got a couple of months here to get

1810
01:42:15,600 --> 01:42:17,360
Speaker 1: a final draft in and I'm gonna do some edits.

1811
01:42:17,360 --> 01:42:19,920
Speaker 1: But it's happening. It is happening, And yes, I will

1812
01:42:19,920 --> 01:42:23,200
Speaker 1: explain socialism in that, and I try to explain socialism

1813
01:42:23,240 --> 01:42:27,800
Speaker 1: in this as well. Um Martha writes, what is that

1814
01:42:28,000 --> 01:42:31,800
Speaker 1: way cool introductory music to your Freedom Huts segment. I

1815
01:42:31,880 --> 01:42:35,320
Speaker 1: must know it, wonderful show Buck my fave. Well, Martha,

1816
01:42:35,360 --> 01:42:39,640
Speaker 1: you have great taste in radio shows. And as for

1817
01:42:41,160 --> 01:42:43,000
Speaker 1: producer Mark, do you have any idea like which one

1818
01:42:43,040 --> 01:42:44,920
Speaker 1: she likes? I don't know which one we're talking about here,

1819
01:42:45,000 --> 01:42:46,960
Speaker 1: I don't know. We play a lot of music and

1820
01:42:47,080 --> 01:42:48,920
Speaker 1: we play at you know, I mean, DJ Mark is

1821
01:42:48,960 --> 01:42:53,439
Speaker 1: spinning all kinds of the hippest, hottest tracks. Yo. Um,

1822
01:42:54,720 --> 01:42:57,160
Speaker 1: have you actually do DJ? We've had, We've had, We've

1823
01:42:57,160 --> 01:42:59,120
Speaker 1: had producers in the past who were DJs on the side.

1824
01:42:59,120 --> 01:43:00,960
Speaker 1: Are you also a Are you really just like an

1825
01:43:00,960 --> 01:43:04,040
Speaker 1: audio guy? I'm just like love audio. You're an audio guy.

1826
01:43:04,080 --> 01:43:06,360
Speaker 1: You love audio? You don't You're not spinning mad beats

1827
01:43:06,360 --> 01:43:09,639
Speaker 1: on the weekends sometimes, but not as a traditional DJ.

1828
01:43:10,400 --> 01:43:14,200
Speaker 1: Oh okay, nice you karaoke guy, Mark? No, you don't

1829
01:43:14,240 --> 01:43:19,280
Speaker 1: want me singing stand by your man. We could definitely

1830
01:43:19,280 --> 01:43:22,120
Speaker 1: do some bad Buck karaoke in the Freedom Hut at

1831
01:43:22,120 --> 01:43:23,679
Speaker 1: some point, but then everybody would turn off the station.

1832
01:43:23,800 --> 01:43:26,200
Speaker 1: That would be very sad, so we won't. We won't

1833
01:43:26,200 --> 01:43:28,280
Speaker 1: do that. That was stuck in my head, by the way,

1834
01:43:28,360 --> 01:43:30,240
Speaker 1: because in some of your thinking, why would you start

1835
01:43:30,280 --> 01:43:34,240
Speaker 1: singing that? It is in the movie Golden Eye, which

1836
01:43:34,280 --> 01:43:37,040
Speaker 1: I love mostly because of the Nintendo sixty four video

1837
01:43:37,120 --> 01:43:39,600
Speaker 1: game based on it that I played endless hours of

1838
01:43:39,680 --> 01:43:43,000
Speaker 1: with my brothers growing up, and producer Mark you love

1839
01:43:43,000 --> 01:43:45,320
Speaker 1: Golden I come on, of course, Yeah, it's like it

1840
01:43:45,360 --> 01:43:46,920
Speaker 1: was at the time. It was the greatest video game,

1841
01:43:46,960 --> 01:43:49,840
Speaker 1: in my opinion, video game playing experience, probably of all time.

1842
01:43:50,200 --> 01:43:56,479
Speaker 1: And the Russian mobster guy whose name I can't remember

1843
01:43:56,520 --> 01:44:01,559
Speaker 1: now has a mistress who is singing karaoke terribly and

1844
01:44:01,560 --> 01:44:05,040
Speaker 1: she's singing stand by your Man, and it is actually

1845
01:44:05,200 --> 01:44:07,760
Speaker 1: Mini Driver for those of you that really are into

1846
01:44:07,840 --> 01:44:12,519
Speaker 1: nineties movies, early early Mini Driver before she became a

1847
01:44:13,320 --> 01:44:17,200
Speaker 1: surprising starlet in Hollywood. I don't know how that really happened,

1848
01:44:17,200 --> 01:44:19,879
Speaker 1: but I mean she was in Goodwill hunting and anyway,

1849
01:44:20,840 --> 01:44:23,040
Speaker 1: we got a little more roll call here. Hey everybody,

1850
01:44:23,120 --> 01:44:25,240
Speaker 1: right now, please before you forget, set your DVR for

1851
01:44:25,320 --> 01:44:27,879
Speaker 1: Bill Marsha Damar or watch it live ten o'clock Eastern

1852
01:44:28,000 --> 01:44:32,320
Speaker 1: on HBO. I need the team pulling for me because

1853
01:44:32,439 --> 01:44:34,920
Speaker 1: it is I'm going Look, it's liberal ground. You're going

1854
01:44:34,920 --> 01:44:37,040
Speaker 1: into liberal territory. There's no question about it, and I

1855
01:44:37,080 --> 01:44:41,080
Speaker 1: haven't had that real opportunity in a while. I used

1856
01:44:41,080 --> 01:44:42,519
Speaker 1: to it all the time at CNN, But this is

1857
01:44:42,560 --> 01:44:44,400
Speaker 1: gonna be a little different because it's a live audience,

1858
01:44:44,520 --> 01:44:49,160
Speaker 1: which changes the game up a little bit. Terry writes, Hey, Buck,

1859
01:44:49,200 --> 01:44:51,080
Speaker 1: I was just listening to your show when you covered bussing.

1860
01:44:51,600 --> 01:44:54,880
Speaker 1: My family is from the Charlestown neighborhood of Boston. One

1861
01:44:54,960 --> 01:44:57,599
Speaker 1: issue that never got mentioned was in Boston, certain areas

1862
01:44:57,600 --> 01:45:01,519
Speaker 1: had the vocational school. Charlestown was the electrical school. So

1863
01:45:01,560 --> 01:45:04,680
Speaker 1: if my cousin from Charlestown wanted to become an electrician,

1864
01:45:04,680 --> 01:45:06,759
Speaker 1: he stood a very good chance of being denied attending

1865
01:45:07,040 --> 01:45:10,640
Speaker 1: since he lived in Charlestown. So the bussing denied not

1866
01:45:10,680 --> 01:45:13,960
Speaker 1: only a quality education, but a potential career opportunity. There

1867
01:45:14,000 --> 01:45:16,320
Speaker 1: was a decent movie about bussing in Charlestown and Roxbury

1868
01:45:16,400 --> 01:45:19,320
Speaker 1: called The Common Ground. It showed how well to do,

1869
01:45:19,720 --> 01:45:23,200
Speaker 1: how well to do? Liberals pitted poor whites against poor blacks.

1870
01:45:23,240 --> 01:45:25,559
Speaker 1: Your show is the only one where the other side,

1871
01:45:25,600 --> 01:45:29,559
Speaker 1: poor whites showed that they were victims of this. Two

1872
01:45:29,600 --> 01:45:31,840
Speaker 1: shields high Terry, Well, thank you, Terry, And that's I

1873
01:45:31,920 --> 01:45:34,479
Speaker 1: knew that it was more complicated than liberals were. A

1874
01:45:34,520 --> 01:45:36,840
Speaker 1: lot of times, I'll tell you this, a lot of times,

1875
01:45:36,920 --> 01:45:43,000
Speaker 1: my research and my political philosophy is guided at some

1876
01:45:43,160 --> 01:45:45,240
Speaker 1: level by I know that what they're telling us is

1877
01:45:45,280 --> 01:45:48,519
Speaker 1: not true. And that's really the first step in my process.

1878
01:45:48,560 --> 01:45:51,679
Speaker 1: I know that the official narrative is not it's either

1879
01:45:51,880 --> 01:45:54,920
Speaker 1: a lie or it's only part of the story. And

1880
01:45:55,120 --> 01:45:58,240
Speaker 1: with Bussing, it just seemed so obvious to me that, Okay,

1881
01:45:58,280 --> 01:46:01,080
Speaker 1: here's something that's very complicated that went on for a

1882
01:46:01,200 --> 01:46:03,560
Speaker 1: very long time, and the moment you try to question it,

1883
01:46:03,640 --> 01:46:06,519
Speaker 1: they say racist. Well, that's always a tip off because

1884
01:46:07,479 --> 01:46:09,559
Speaker 1: there's just no way that that was the only reason

1885
01:46:09,600 --> 01:46:11,960
Speaker 1: that the racism was the only reason be like concerns

1886
01:46:11,960 --> 01:46:13,839
Speaker 1: about it. And that's why I went through the reality

1887
01:46:13,880 --> 01:46:16,160
Speaker 1: of Bussing with you on the show. There was good

1888
01:46:16,200 --> 01:46:19,640
Speaker 1: and there was bad from it. All right, team tomorrow

1889
01:46:19,840 --> 01:46:21,800
Speaker 1: because I have to do Bill Maher, I am going

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Speaker 1: to be off. So we're going to have the Godfather

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Speaker 1: Mike Opelka, who was one of my first guests back

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Speaker 1: when I first started the Saturday show. So we all

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Speaker 1: we all have some love because Godfather was there in

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Speaker 1: the very beginning, so he'll do a great job and

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Speaker 1: on the show. So listen to Godfather, and then as

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Speaker 1: soon as you've done listening to the show, you can

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Speaker 1: turn on HBO and I'll be on at ten o'clock

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Speaker 1: Eastern real time with Bill maher team. Now more than ever,

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Speaker 1: she'll tie