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All right, I've known. 9 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 3: Jeff Schwartz for a minute, done a lot of stuff 10 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 3: on the gambling front with him here at Fox. 11 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 2: Let's bring in Jeff. 12 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 3: Schwartz, NFL veteran Fox Sports analysts. 13 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 2: Can we call him a college football guru? Do you 14 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 2: like guru? I just like tossing that around. It sounds cool. 15 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 4: I don't know if I'm with guru. 16 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 5: I'm good at it's specifically wagering on like West Coast teams. 17 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:48,200 Speaker 5: I'll get a couple of years now, so I don't 18 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 5: if that's a guru, but I do I'm good at 19 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:52,479 Speaker 5: one specific thing where it comes to gambling, which is 20 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 5: wager on on Cal and Oregon State the games. 21 00:00:57,040 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 4: No one's paying attention to. 22 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 3: My buddy Fu graduated from Cal, so they're going to 23 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 3: be awful this year. I guess they lost everybody. 24 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 5: Oh, I have their under I have their under buddy, 25 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 5: It's gonna be a rough year for the cal Bears. 26 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 3: The cal Bears berserkly will not be berserk All right, 27 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 3: let's get started, obviously, Texas Ohio State, Jeff, it is 28 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:16,679 Speaker 3: a big one. We're on opposite sides here. I think 29 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:19,399 Speaker 3: there's a slam dunk winner, but the line's going in 30 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 3: the opposite direction. I got it at two and a half. 31 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 3: I'm seeing two one and a half in some spots 32 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 3: here on a Monday morning. Where are you and Buckeyes 33 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:30,039 Speaker 3: versus Longhorns. 34 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:32,679 Speaker 5: So I think a couple of things that we don't 35 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:36,040 Speaker 5: do very well when covering this sport is talk about 36 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 5: quarterbacks basically starting for the first time. And there are 37 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 5: a lot of quarterbacks making their first starts in week 38 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:43,680 Speaker 5: one and week two and week three. Right as we 39 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 5: continue to go forth, and it has a new quarterback 40 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 5: Jason that that does matter a lot. Tackle onto that 41 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 5: new offensive coordinator, a new defensive coordinator, a new offensive 42 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 5: line coach, new running backs. They have one new wide 43 00:01:57,240 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 5: receiver right, new offensive lineman. So a lot of new 44 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 5: in week one, Jason, A lot of new look at 45 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 5: the defensive side of the ball, some new pass rushers, 46 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 5: some new linebackers. Now OHASA has the two best players 47 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:10,359 Speaker 5: maybe an old sport in Jeremih Smith and came up down, 48 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 5: so like they have that going for them. 49 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:13,800 Speaker 4: But there's a lot of new there. There's a little 50 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:14,920 Speaker 4: bit less new at Texas. 51 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 5: I know arch Maney has not played a ton of football, 52 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:19,800 Speaker 5: but he has played some football. Like he has played 53 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 5: in college football, he will not be intimidated by the 54 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 5: environment in Week one. Texas also has to replace some 55 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 5: players as well as every team, and some of those 56 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 5: are offensive linemen and wide receivers and still position guys 57 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 5: that are important goes on defense as well. I think 58 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 5: this is a very low scoring game. I think both 59 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 5: offenses are really going to struggle to move the ball 60 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:39,359 Speaker 5: at times in this game. But I give a little 61 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 5: bit to Texas of having a quarterback that has played, 62 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 5: has experienced a coach obviously start that's won a lot, 63 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 5: so is Ryan Day. Of course, like there's no real 64 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:49,919 Speaker 5: coaching mismatch here except the fact that Ohio State does 65 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 5: have new coordinators. That does matter in these games in 66 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:55,679 Speaker 5: big game Week one, so I lean ever slightly to 67 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 5: text I missed. 68 00:02:57,200 --> 00:03:00,240 Speaker 4: Obviously it's the best of the number now, like the 69 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 4: undermabe more than anything of this game. 70 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 2: Interesting. 71 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 3: So, speaking of new the Longhorns have four I believe 72 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 3: four new offensive linemen this year, which could be a 73 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 3: problem against Ohio State. That's a good point on the 74 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 3: newness for the Buckeyes. What about the home field advantage 75 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 3: do you think that plays a big factor? Obviously Fox 76 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 3: will be there, It's going to get a huge jumper. 77 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:19,919 Speaker 3: It's going to be a scene there. 78 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 4: What a weekend, by the way, what a great week 79 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:22,640 Speaker 4: on a ball. 80 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 5: I don't know if Ohio State has the home field 81 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 5: advantage that other places do. You know, it's very tough 82 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 5: to win there. I know people say, well they've lost 83 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:31,800 Speaker 5: only x amount of games in a number of years. Well, 84 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:34,639 Speaker 5: they're typically the better team as well. Very rarely do 85 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 5: teams come in there and are competitive with them because 86 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 5: they're just not good enough for the Oregon obviously won 87 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 5: a few years ago. Michigan's won there recently as well. 88 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 5: I mean, they don't have a lot of teams like 89 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 5: Texas that come in there. And Ohio State fans routinely 90 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 5: complain about these these early kickoffs and the environment for 91 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 5: early kickoffs firus obviously a later game when people might 92 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 5: have a couple more adult beverages and feel a little 93 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 5: bit more inclined to cheer. And I don't know if 94 00:03:57,480 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 5: if I don't know if the students are in quite 95 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 5: yet four game like this, so I don't know if 96 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 5: it's quite the same home field as other places. But 97 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 5: it's a road game. It's gonna be loud in the 98 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 5: Texas off to prepares. You mentioned new offensive lineman for 99 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 5: a hostile road environment. 100 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 3: So this is a tough question. I'm gonna be blunt. 101 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:16,479 Speaker 3: Do we know if arch Manning is good? We know 102 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 3: he has a five star last name, but is he 103 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 3: maybe a three star player? 104 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 2: Let's be real if you remove the last. 105 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:27,840 Speaker 3: Name, have we seen anything from march Manning unable to 106 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 3: beat out a seventh round pick in quinn Ewers, Like 107 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 3: I mean. 108 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:32,919 Speaker 2: I'm Steve Spurrier said it. 109 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 3: I'm not breaking new ground here, but yeah, do we 110 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 3: know if he's good? 111 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:39,359 Speaker 5: I don't think we know if he's good yet? And 112 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 5: that's okay. Soon one hundred passes of college football. There 113 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 5: are certainly people that evaluate quarterbacks. You Thinkey's very good, 114 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:49,719 Speaker 5: and they are the traits there that he has shown 115 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 5: at certain times that are. 116 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 4: High level traits. 117 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 5: And of course trades have to be something that we 118 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:59,160 Speaker 5: see happen often if you're showing that the plays now, 119 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:01,840 Speaker 5: but he has made throws, he's made big runs. They 120 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 5: put him into games and situations where you think to yourself, 121 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:07,480 Speaker 5: maybe I'm surprised he's in this, you know, in that spot, he's. 122 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:08,359 Speaker 4: Shown those abilities now. 123 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 5: Of course, it's different when teams have watched film on 124 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 5: you all year, when teams have seen you play four 125 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 5: or five six games, when you're on the road with 126 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:20,119 Speaker 5: new offensive linemen, the potentials all there, I think earlier 127 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 5: to say yes or no. But look if he did, 128 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 5: if he does come out on this draft, people already 129 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 5: walking him to beat the top of the travel. It's 130 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:28,720 Speaker 5: not the be all end all, but there's certainly a 131 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 5: lot of talent there he has to live up to. 132 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 5: And now when he gets to play on Saturday. 133 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 3: All right, I'm not bashing, but I'm just pointing out 134 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 3: some facts. So those highlights largely were against Utsa Colorado 135 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 3: State ULM mostly in backup duty. Okay, for whatever reason, 136 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 3: he barely played against Georgia three of six for nineteen 137 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:54,480 Speaker 3: yards in the regular season, did not play in the 138 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 3: SEC title game, did not play against Clemson, did not 139 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:00,919 Speaker 3: play against Ohio State, and I mean sorry, did not 140 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 3: throw a pass. He was on the field, but he 141 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:05,600 Speaker 3: didn't really play one carry. What is that about? If 142 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 3: he's so good, why didn't he play more? 143 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 5: Look, I think there used to be the thought process 144 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:17,039 Speaker 5: that you just wait on young guys to play. But 145 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 5: there's no rush for these guys to play. Texas had 146 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 5: a draftable quarterback right, a guy who was thought to 147 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 5: be obviously a little better than where he was drafted 148 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 5: ahead of him. And they're winning a lot of football games, 149 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 5: and so there's no need to rush arch Manning to 150 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 5: possibly lose quinn Ewers to the portal, I think, to 151 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:37,920 Speaker 5: one more portal time. So I think, look, I'm fine 152 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 5: with quarterbacks waiting. I mean, there's a lot of places 153 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 5: around the country that had quarterbacks wait that might end 154 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 5: up being better than the players that they're replacing at 155 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 5: some point. 156 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:47,600 Speaker 4: This feels like natural. 157 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:49,280 Speaker 5: Look, Texas made a playoff two years in a row, 158 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:52,720 Speaker 5: so like they're not doing it to spite basically winning 159 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:55,840 Speaker 5: that they had a winning quarterback. Announced architern to wait 160 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 5: announce its term to play. 161 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 3: All right, let's go to the Miami Notre Dame. I 162 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:04,040 Speaker 3: also loaded up on the Irish in this one. Wow, 163 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 3: kind of risky, I know, I think I got two 164 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 3: and a half. I just I know there's some questions 165 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 3: about the quarterback play. But I'm a huge Marcus Freeman fan. 166 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 3: I think he's, you know, one of the sharper coaches 167 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 3: in college football. 168 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 2: I liked them. 169 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 3: I'm not a believer in Carson beck. I drank the 170 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 3: kool aid last year before the season and then he 171 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 3: kind of I know he's enjoying the NIO money and 172 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 3: all the trappings of fame and the ladies in Miami. 173 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 2: But I mean, do you think Carson. 174 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 3: Beck is Are you back on the hey man, he's 175 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 3: an NFL quarterback or I need to see more? 176 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 5: Oh man, So this game is in Miami, right, I'm 177 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 5: right on that. I have that right sound neutral side game. 178 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 5: I am just allergic to taking like a quarterback making 179 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 5: his first start on the road in the top ten opponent. 180 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 5: I that is bold, buddy. I mean, Miami's pretty good 181 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 5: this season. The years of recruiting have finally come to fruition, 182 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 5: especially on the offensive defensive line for Mario. Obviously, what 183 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 5: Marcus Freeman did last year was fantastic. But I think 184 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 5: Miami at this stage right now, with their quarterback, with 185 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 5: their returning players and in this situation, is probably better 186 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 5: at the moment. 187 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 4: I think that maybe week ten, once Cars played. 188 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 5: A little bit more, we know a little bit more 189 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 5: about him and whether or not the offense functions quite 190 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 5: like it did last season. But that to me is 191 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 5: that's a bold that's a bold spot to be and 192 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 5: I'd rather have my money on Miami. I think the 193 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 5: under certainly played in this game as well, where it's 194 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 5: a physical game. It's a run the ball game. We 195 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:33,959 Speaker 5: know with with love and Mark Chris Ball wants to 196 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 5: do in Miami that that's certainly a part of the game. 197 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:40,200 Speaker 5: But I think I'm allergic to taking new quarterbacks on 198 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 5: the road against top ten teams a week one. 199 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, the game is in Miami, you are correct, it 200 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 3: should be a good one. And then you know, one 201 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 3: of the other bets I made this was Clemson to 202 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 3: go undefeated in the regular season. 203 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 2: I have been bashing Dabo here. 204 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 3: Dabbo whatever you however you want to say it here 205 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 3: on the show for several months, maybe even a year 206 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 3: now because he's been allergic to the portal. He kind 207 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:03,959 Speaker 3: of changed his tune a little bit. And Bruce Feldman 208 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 3: Fox get Fox's fine as has convinced me that they 209 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:09,839 Speaker 3: have a lot of NFL talent on that defense. So 210 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 3: I went Clempson to go undefeated regular season. I don't 211 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 3: think they wolin the National Championship. Your thoughts on the Tigers, Well. 212 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 5: My bear bets co host Chris Felika thinks we're crazy 213 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 5: for like. He comes in so much. Him and Bruce 214 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 5: would add it on the show. I love comes in 215 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:27,320 Speaker 5: as well. Jason. I mean, look, if you check the 216 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:30,079 Speaker 5: boxes for things that you want in teams, right, you 217 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 5: would say, veteran offense with a returning quarterback who has 218 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 5: high level NFL talent, check right, offensive line much improved 219 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:39,560 Speaker 5: this year. Check they returning productions by the way number 220 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:42,560 Speaker 5: one the country. And offense defensively right, a bunch of 221 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 5: defensive lineman go in the NFL. Check the box. Look, Dabbo, 222 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:48,320 Speaker 5: we all have laughed at him over the years for 223 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 5: not adopting sooner to the landscape of college football. Well 224 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 5: he did, Jason, He finally did. Okay, he adapted and 225 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:55,200 Speaker 5: the team is better for it. 226 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 4: Now. 227 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 5: Their schedule has set up very well. They have a 228 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 5: couple of tough games. I think Georgia check is a sneaky, 229 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 5: really good team in the a SEC. Their team have 230 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 5: over seven and a half wins. They played them ear 231 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:05,680 Speaker 5: in the season. They obviously play LSU. I think they 232 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 5: beat LSU and cover in Week one, and their schedule 233 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:10,680 Speaker 5: does it up pretty well for them. They have stumble 234 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 5: over the years though, They've been one of the teams 235 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 5: that you know can be upset, which does worry me 236 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:18,199 Speaker 5: for a perfect season. But if they were twelve and 237 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 5: oh to end the season number one, the country would 238 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 5: not surprise me whatsoever. 239 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 3: All right, let's do one NFL one or two NFL 240 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:25,560 Speaker 3: real quick. I see the Giants helmet behind you. 241 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:28,440 Speaker 2: A lot of excitement for the Gman. 242 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 3: I mean, listen, Jackson dart boy, what a dominant preseason. 243 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 3: I know Abdul Carter is wrecking everyone, which is understandable, 244 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:38,080 Speaker 3: But are you buying this hype about the Giants? 245 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:39,599 Speaker 2: Are they going to be? You know, a five and 246 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 2: a half win team that Vegas says they are. 247 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 5: Well, the numbers come down for Week one. I see 248 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 5: it's experienced by six now it was I think it 249 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 5: was seven or even seven and a half. 250 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:47,959 Speaker 4: Yeah, one point. 251 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:52,439 Speaker 5: No, I'm not I'm not a buyer in this. We 252 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 5: have to treat the preseason like it is. It's the preseason. 253 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:57,599 Speaker 5: There are things to take away from the preseason, and 254 00:10:57,600 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 5: there's certainly things I've taken me from the preseason. But 255 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 5: to change your mind on all win total over to 256 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:05,560 Speaker 5: me is kind of ludicrous. Under sure, like people go 257 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:07,439 Speaker 5: to some quarterback rooms right now, and I'm like, I'm 258 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:10,319 Speaker 5: out in those quarterback rooms. Dart's not gonna play for 259 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 5: at least the first month, I would imagine. So everything 260 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 5: that you saw about him being good is great, great start, 261 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:17,440 Speaker 5: don't get me wrong, great start. He's not gonna play. 262 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:20,320 Speaker 5: So if you're basing your idea on their success based 263 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:22,560 Speaker 5: off Jackson Dart, he's not going to see the field 264 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 5: for probably a month or longer. Their schedule, Jason is 265 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:29,439 Speaker 5: so difficult. It's Commanders, I believe it's Cowboys, then Chargers, 266 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:33,440 Speaker 5: Chief Saints, and then a combination of like Eagles, Broncos, Bears. 267 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 5: It's hallacious schedule. And so they might be better as 268 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 5: a team, and I really think they are better, Their 269 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 5: defense is going to be good, their offense line is healthier. 270 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:44,320 Speaker 5: Lake Davers hopefully is healthy. That's a big loss if 271 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 5: he can't be head of this season. Quarterbacks certainly better 272 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:49,199 Speaker 5: than the last season, but the schedule is so difficult 273 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:52,840 Speaker 5: it might not matter how better they are this season. 274 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 5: So I'm not buying the hype. I have them under 275 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:58,439 Speaker 5: five and a half wins. I would not be surprised 276 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:01,080 Speaker 5: if things went sideways early one. They went to dart 277 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:02,720 Speaker 5: and just sort of worked their way through a rookie 278 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 5: playing this season. 279 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:05,679 Speaker 3: All right, Final question, I see the Kansas City Chiefs 280 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 3: helmet behind you. I am public enemy number one in 281 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:13,200 Speaker 3: in and around the franchise. I'm curious do you believe 282 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 3: that they can they still have a runway to win 283 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 3: more Super Bowls year this year or get back to 284 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 3: a Super Bowl. 285 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:21,200 Speaker 5: Okay, so I told you taking away from the preseason, 286 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 5: you know, be careful doing it. 287 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Open three for the Chiefs. In the preseason, 288 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:25,560 Speaker 2: the notes say. 289 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:30,079 Speaker 5: There nineteen points in the fourth quarter last game. All 290 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 5: of you saw the first half. But if the Chiefs 291 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:35,200 Speaker 5: are going to run that style of offense, the style, 292 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 5: not the results of matter, but the style of offense 293 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 5: where they take chances down the field. They were running 294 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 5: plays they have not run in four or five years 295 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 5: in that game. If they get back to doing that, 296 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 5: which I think they feel comfortable with their offensive line 297 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:49,959 Speaker 5: and the skill guys be healthier this year, they'll lose 298 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 5: rights obviously for some point this year that if that 299 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 5: is what the offense is, watch out, like, just watch out, 300 00:12:57,400 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 5: because the defense don't have to be great, just have 301 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:00,440 Speaker 5: to be good. Go lose them the game. 302 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 4: Right. 303 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 5: If they return to this offense, which is taking shots 304 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 5: down the field using the running back out of the backfiel, 305 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:07,680 Speaker 5: which they did a lot with Smith in this game, 306 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 5: they're there, their rookie, They're going to be really good again, 307 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 5: and that windows is not going to close this year. 308 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 4: I think. 309 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:15,959 Speaker 5: Look, I think when Kelsey leaves eventually, Jason is what 310 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:17,960 Speaker 5: all pull back a little bit. I think the offense 311 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 5: is so reliant on what he does so well that 312 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 5: if he doesn't play, that changes what the Chiefs are. 313 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 5: But with Kelsey still there for one more season, I 314 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 5: think so super Bowl bus for Kansas. 315 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:29,720 Speaker 2: City, all right, super Bowl or bus? 316 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:33,840 Speaker 3: Jeff Schwartz, Yeah, good stuff as always, Buddy, Fox Sports 317 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 3: NFL analyst, gambling guru. 318 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 2: We'll we'll just do it out there. We'll take you 319 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 2: good luck to your ducks this season. 320 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 4: Jeff, Thank you, buddy. 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Let's go to 350 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 2: Rachel Nichols with the news. 351 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 4: No, no tarn on the news. 352 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 6: This is the herd Line news. 353 00:14:57,120 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 9: Well, Jason. 354 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 10: Last week the Ravens had a major injury scale at 355 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 10: practice Lamar Jackson. Someone inadvertently stepped on his foot. Lamar 356 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 10: then missed the remaining week of practice. There were reports 357 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 10: over the weekend the injury could be worse than the 358 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 10: team was letting on First, Lamar chime did on social 359 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 10: media with a little laughing crying emoji to that one. 360 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 10: But you know the real response from Lamar Jackson is 361 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 10: that Jason, he is on the field and practicing as 362 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 10: we speak. 363 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 9: With the Ravens. Do you worry about this injury? Is 364 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 9: it something to watch or are we done. 365 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 10: With this now? No? 366 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 3: I think we're probably done with it, but I do 367 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 3: want to go back to their loss to the Bills. 368 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 3: So Mark Andrews obviously had a rough game. Are we 369 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 3: a little more high on the Bills than the Ravens 370 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 3: simply because Mark Andrews dropped a couple passes than I 371 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 3: think Lamar fumbled in the first half? 372 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 10: Well, look, I mean, Lamar Jackson's a two time MVP, 373 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 10: but you've got to look at Josh Allen, who is 374 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 10: the most recent MVP. 375 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 9: And we always have. 376 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 10: A recency bias, right, I mean, look, we'll never know 377 00:15:56,760 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 10: what would have happened that, you know, dropping that pass 378 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:00,200 Speaker 10: would have tied the game. 379 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 9: It wouldn't have won them the game. We would have 380 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 9: tied the game and we would have to see where 381 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 9: they went from there. 382 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 2: Ravens had a. 383 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 9: Bunch of turnovers in that game, remember. 384 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 10: So I just think that the there's an accurate idea 385 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 10: of how we're coming into this season. I don't think 386 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 10: it's crazy biased on that one game. I think both 387 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 10: of those teams, the Bills and the Ravens, need to 388 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 10: prove they can get to the super Bowl. And you've 389 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 10: talked about the Chiefs not being as much of an 390 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 10: obstacles in the past. 391 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 9: We just heard you double down on them not making. 392 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 10: The playoffs, which is you know, ludicrous and saying over 393 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 10: on this side of the desk, but whatever, But it 394 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 10: really does feel like it's between one of those two 395 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 10: teams for that Super Bowl. 396 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 3: So do you have it Ravens, Bills, Chiefs and or 397 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 3: the Bengals in the mix? 398 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 2: Broncos? 399 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 4: What do we got? 400 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 10: I'm not putting the Bengals of Broncos is graduating into 401 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 10: making the Super Bowl this year. But you know you 402 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 10: go with that. No, no, no, certainly, No, you're not 403 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 10: there yet. No, all right, let's talk about the Patriots. 404 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 10: They are under going a big regime change after hiring 405 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 10: Mike Rabel this offseason. 406 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 9: Brabel has left his mark on the team. Do you see, Jason. 407 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 10: He's getting into the middle of practice fights. 408 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:09,680 Speaker 9: He's been taking part in reshaping. 409 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:13,440 Speaker 10: The froster and notably, last week, a report emerged indicating 410 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:16,240 Speaker 10: that receiver Jalen Polk would be out for the seat 411 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 10: for the year the entire season due to a shoulder injury. 412 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 9: Here is Mike Rabel's response, This is amazing, Like. 413 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 8: There was a report today that Jalen Pope will have 414 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:26,679 Speaker 8: have to have seasons shoulder surgery. 415 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 11: Can you add anything to that, No other than I'd 416 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 11: like to find out where some of these come from. 417 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:37,640 Speaker 11: You know, somebody's rats around here, so we'll figure that out. 418 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 9: Wow, that's after. 419 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 10: By the way, when the initial report came out, Rabel 420 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:47,680 Speaker 10: posted a meme on social media that was just Jack 421 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:51,960 Speaker 10: Nicholson from The Departed. So he has made his feelings 422 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 10: on this. You know, snitches get stitches sort of thing. 423 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 10: So it will deal with Polk is he We don't 424 00:17:57,480 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 10: know yet. I mean, it could be the report was accurate. 425 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:03,359 Speaker 10: We're still waiting to hear. But what's interesting is that 426 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 10: he is out for the season. Then Drake May would 427 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:10,200 Speaker 10: be the only player from last year's draft. 428 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 9: Left on the roster twenty twenty four draft. 429 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 3: Now now Listen Cowherd for years bagged on Belichick watching drafts. 430 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:16,360 Speaker 6: Yep. 431 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 2: Who was running the draft was not mill but somebody 432 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:22,960 Speaker 2: messed up that no uther. So the only guy Drake 433 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:25,199 Speaker 2: May who was like, well where did he go? Like 434 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 2: top twelve? Maybe I'm right there. That's not good. That's 435 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 2: not good. I mean a year later and almost all 436 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:34,640 Speaker 2: of them are not coming back. 437 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:35,960 Speaker 9: Yeah, that's not what you want. 438 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 2: You gotta gut the scouting department. Holy maybe that's why 439 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:41,720 Speaker 2: he was posting the Maybe. 440 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:44,640 Speaker 10: That was maybe he needs to worry less about the 441 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 10: leaks and more about scouting. 442 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 2: We'll say that's a great movie by They Departed. 443 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:52,639 Speaker 3: If it's ever on cable, even the sanitized version, it's watching. 444 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 9: It's fantastic. 445 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:55,880 Speaker 10: We got to go through a list of some time 446 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:57,359 Speaker 10: of your If it's on cable, I'll watch it. 447 00:18:57,640 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 9: Yeah, that's for later. 448 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 2: Enough for that body, kid, It's all that all right. 449 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:02,880 Speaker 10: The Vikings are going to hand the ball to JJ 450 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:05,960 Speaker 10: McCarthy this season. They made a move at the quarterback 451 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:09,159 Speaker 10: position those signing Carson Wentz and trading Sam Howell to 452 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 10: the Eagles over the weekend. With the Wentz edition, he 453 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 10: now joins his sixth team in his many seasons and 454 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:18,480 Speaker 10: will hope to help JJ in his first season of action. 455 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:21,920 Speaker 10: So does this tell you the Vikings have more confidence 456 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:24,200 Speaker 10: than McCarthy? Less confidence? And McCarthy, where are you on this? 457 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:24,680 Speaker 2: Yeah? 458 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 3: I was trying to figure this out why this move happened. 459 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 2: Maybe they like Sam Howell. He was in the. 460 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 3: Division, right, I think he was playing for Washington. Maybe 461 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:38,199 Speaker 3: he had a good showing, but this is like his 462 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:39,439 Speaker 3: third team in three years. 463 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:42,680 Speaker 2: Carson Wentz was on his sixth team in six years. 464 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 2: Remember when he was a thing. 465 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, I was at the game Eagles rams of the 466 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 3: Coliseum before so far was built for he was like 467 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:52,359 Speaker 3: an MVP candidate and then he like limps off the 468 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:55,359 Speaker 3: field and they were like, oh, he's got its ACL injury. 469 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:55,680 Speaker 9: Right. 470 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 2: He's never been the same guy since then. 471 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 3: For Carson Wentz, because he was it felt like he 472 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 3: was close to breaking through, right Yeah. 473 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 10: And look, he's reliable, He's not going to mess up 474 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:08,960 Speaker 10: a game for you. And I think that's why the 475 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 10: Vikings wanted him there. They are all in on JJ 476 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 10: McCarthy and I don't think you know, people are like, oh, 477 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 10: what does this mean about JJ? Or do they want 478 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:19,159 Speaker 10: Carson to compete? No, they want JJ to be their quarterback. 479 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 10: But let me give you a pretty interesting stat. Over 480 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:25,200 Speaker 10: the last ten years. How many teams, just percentage wise, 481 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 10: do you think have kept their starting quarterback for the 482 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 10: entire regular season every game in the regular. 483 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 2: Season in the last how many year? Ten names, ten years? 484 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 2: All about ten percent. Yeah, it's oh wow, but that 485 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 2: just but. 486 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:42,920 Speaker 10: That means sixty percent of the teams are going to 487 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 10: have to for at least a game or two, go 488 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 10: to a back, go to their backup, and Carson Wentz 489 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:49,720 Speaker 10: is a reliable backup for the Vikings. 490 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 9: That's what they're seeing. And obviously he's also an experienced 491 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 9: guy who can sort of talk to JJ off the field. 492 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:55,920 Speaker 3: So if you need him for a game or two, 493 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:57,680 Speaker 3: a spot start, you can trust him. 494 00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:01,200 Speaker 2: He's a veteran, he's been in the league for years ago. 495 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:04,920 Speaker 2: I don't hate it. Yeah, you like the Vikings is 496 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 2: here or No. 497 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:07,719 Speaker 10: I think they're going to be a fun team. I 498 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 10: like The Quarterback Switch. I thought that was a good movie. 499 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:12,440 Speaker 9: Yeah, and we'll see. I mean, I don't think they're 500 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:13,920 Speaker 9: winning Super Bowl. 501 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 2: But I got to make that leap to the super Bowl. Yes, correct. 502 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:19,400 Speaker 3: I was on them in the off season and then 503 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 3: I went on this rant about how good they're going 504 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 3: to be, and I heard from some people. 505 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:25,119 Speaker 2: And they were like, be careful, n Dave, all right, 506 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:27,960 Speaker 2: out let me downshift on that. Anyways, all right, Rachel 507 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:30,959 Speaker 2: with the news. Well that's the news, and thanks for 508 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 2: stopping by. 509 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:33,639 Speaker 6: The herd Line News. 510 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:37,159 Speaker 3: Coming up next, a reporter who covers the Browns asking 511 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:40,240 Speaker 3: all the tough questions is Shadure on thin ice as 512 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:42,640 Speaker 3: the team gets ready to make their cuts by four 513 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 3: pm tomorrow. 514 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:43,920 Speaker 2: That's next. 515 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:48,440 Speaker 6: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays 516 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 6: and noone Easter. There not a Empacific. 517 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:53,120 Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Herd. 518 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 3: Let's bust right into our next guest, Mary K. Cabot, 519 00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:58,680 Speaker 3: who's been covering. 520 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:03,399 Speaker 2: The Cleveland Browns or years. Unbelievable. She is one of 521 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:04,359 Speaker 2: the best in the business. 522 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:07,960 Speaker 3: Mary Kay asking the tough questions Cleveland dot Com and 523 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 3: the plane Dealer. Mary Kay, We're so happy to have 524 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 3: you on. Let's start with Saturday. How was that for you? 525 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:14,119 Speaker 2: Was that fun? 526 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 4: Well? 527 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 12: It was? 528 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 13: It was really something because I did not expect Shador 529 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:23,360 Speaker 13: to even play in that game. He had a strained 530 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 13: oblique muscle, and he practiced for a couple of days, 531 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 13: and leading up to him rejoining practice, I really thought 532 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 13: that he might sit out that game. So I was 533 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:35,440 Speaker 13: expecting it to be more of a Joe Flacco gets 534 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:37,880 Speaker 13: out there, gets a little work with the first team offense, 535 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 13: everybody goes home and we get ready for the opener. 536 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 13: But it turned into the Shador Sanders Night in so 537 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 13: many ways. And now here we are with all kinds 538 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:50,440 Speaker 13: of things to write about talk about in regards to Shador. 539 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:53,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's interesting you say that, So, I mean, now 540 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:55,199 Speaker 3: that I think about it, Shador didn't look like he 541 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 3: was ready to play in that one. Took five sacks, 542 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 3: kept running backwards and I know, no pro football focus, 543 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:02,919 Speaker 3: and everybody breaks down the time to throw, and he 544 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:05,920 Speaker 3: had five seconds to throw and Dylan Gabriel had two 545 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:09,879 Speaker 3: and Dylan Gabriel was great. I'm wondering, why do you 546 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 3: think Stefanski even played Shador if most people didn't expect 547 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:16,359 Speaker 3: him to show up in that given the oblique. 548 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:18,919 Speaker 13: Well, he passed the medical tests that he needed to 549 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 13: and Shador really really wanted to play. He's a very, 550 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 13: very tough young man. Remember he was sacked an FBS 551 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:30,119 Speaker 13: high ninety four times in his last two years of Colorado, 552 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:33,160 Speaker 13: and he just kept popping right up and playing again. 553 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,640 Speaker 13: So he's physically very very tough, and I think he's 554 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:39,159 Speaker 13: mentally tough too. Kevin Stefanski even noted that about him, 555 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:40,679 Speaker 13: that he wanted to get out there and show what 556 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:42,959 Speaker 13: he could do. Certainly, he wanted to build on his 557 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 13: excellent start against the Carolina Panthers. Unfortunately for everybody involved, 558 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:50,120 Speaker 13: he wasn't able to do that. But I don't think 559 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 13: too too much should be read into this. Of course, 560 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:55,159 Speaker 13: he was playing with the backup, backup, backup skis that 561 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:57,360 Speaker 13: are not going to be on this football team, and 562 00:23:57,480 --> 00:23:59,920 Speaker 13: he's just going to go out there and continue to dive. 563 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:02,439 Speaker 2: All right, let me ask. 564 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,440 Speaker 3: I floated the idea, Hey, the Raiders lost their backup quarterback, 565 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:07,720 Speaker 3: why wouldn't they trade for Shador? He did meet with 566 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:11,439 Speaker 3: them at the combine. Some people seem to think that 567 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:14,120 Speaker 3: maybe Shador gets cut. I can't see that. The GM's 568 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 3: talking about keeping four quarterbacks. Your thoughts on Shador making 569 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:21,160 Speaker 3: the roster, getting traded, all that fun stuff. 570 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 13: Well, I have no doubt in my mind whatsoever that 571 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:28,360 Speaker 13: Shador Sanders is going to make the Cleveland Browns roster. Yes, 572 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:31,120 Speaker 13: they are keeping four quarterbacks. I've been writing that for 573 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:36,720 Speaker 13: months actually, since this four way competition began. And basically 574 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 13: what's happening here is they have two really good young 575 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 13: quarterbacks that they're excited about and that they want to develop. 576 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:45,800 Speaker 13: As they look into next year's draft, they have two 577 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:48,440 Speaker 13: first round picks and they have to find out do 578 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 13: they have a potential franchise quarterback on their roster as 579 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 13: they head into that twenty six draft. 580 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 12: So they want to develop these guys. They want to 581 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:56,639 Speaker 12: see what they have. 582 00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:59,920 Speaker 13: And who knows, they could end up with Dylan Gabriel, 583 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 13: Shador Sanders, and then another rookie next year. So they 584 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:05,880 Speaker 13: like what they see in Shador, they like what they 585 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:08,159 Speaker 13: see in Dylan Gabriel, and they want to move forward 586 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:09,159 Speaker 13: with both of these guys. 587 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 3: So you covered the franchise for thirty years, so you 588 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:18,920 Speaker 3: were through the Belichick era, the Baker Mayfield era, the 589 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 3: what's Jesshaun want? 590 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:25,640 Speaker 2: I mean, you've seen them all. I'm just curious Stefanski. 591 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 2: Is he on thin ice here? 592 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 3: Given hey Man a lot of negative stories three and 593 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 3: fourteen when they were projected to win nine games by 594 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 3: Vegas last year? Is Stefanski in trouble if they don't 595 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:39,239 Speaker 3: get five or six or seven wins here? 596 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:42,240 Speaker 12: No, he's not on thin ice. And here's why. 597 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:46,160 Speaker 13: Because they know right now that they are in quarterback 598 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 13: finding mode. They're looking and searching for their franchise quarterback. 599 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:52,440 Speaker 13: The owner knows that they are trying to figure out 600 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 13: who that guy is. That's why you probably will see 601 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 13: Dylan Gabriel and Shador Sanders played down the stretch this season, 602 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:03,200 Speaker 13: and once again they know they might not have their 603 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:06,360 Speaker 13: quarterback of the future until next year. There's talk that 604 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:09,640 Speaker 13: maybe they'll go after Arch Manning. Who knows if they'll 605 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:11,639 Speaker 13: even come out. I'm sure the Browns will have a 606 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 13: nice large contingent at that Texas Ohio State game coming 607 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 13: up here on August thirtieth. So there is a lot 608 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:23,119 Speaker 13: to happen here in the quarterback space. And I just 609 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:26,200 Speaker 13: don't think that Kevin Stefanski is on. Then I said, all, well. 610 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 2: That's good to hear. What about Barry the GM. 611 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:32,440 Speaker 3: I know that you know, he hasn't been as acclaimed 612 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:36,200 Speaker 3: as Stefanski has, But do you think Barry's job is safe? 613 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:37,120 Speaker 2: Yeah? 614 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:37,680 Speaker 12: I think so. 615 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 13: Once again, I think that these guys are trying to 616 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 13: assemble a roster that can win as soon as possible 617 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:46,879 Speaker 13: while also having an eye towards the future, and that 618 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 13: future will include a franchise quarterback of some sort. 619 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 12: Is he on the roster right now? They don't know. 620 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 13: Maybe they have something in Dylan Gabriel, maybe they have 621 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:58,199 Speaker 13: something in Schado, or maybe they even have something in 622 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:01,440 Speaker 13: Kenny Pickett, who they really like a lot. But now 623 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 13: of course, as we know, they have the two first 624 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:07,160 Speaker 13: round picks next year. It's a rich quarterback class, and 625 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 13: if they don't find what they like out of this 626 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 13: year's class, then they will go into next year hoping 627 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:15,440 Speaker 13: to find their guys. So I think these guys are 628 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 13: very solid. I know the ownership really loves the alignment 629 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:21,720 Speaker 13: in the organization, and I think that it's not that 630 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 13: they have a haul pass this year, but they do 631 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:25,960 Speaker 13: have a little bit of time to get the quarterback 632 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 13: thing together. 633 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 2: Nice usage of hall pass. 634 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:32,160 Speaker 3: I do have to ask, though, you sound really positive 635 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:35,639 Speaker 3: and optimistic about the Browns. Yet the narrative if you 636 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 3: go online or listen to a podcast or radio or whatever, 637 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:42,880 Speaker 3: is the sky is falling. They remain an embarrassment dumpster 638 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:46,159 Speaker 3: fire because they don't have a quarterback, you know. And 639 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:49,200 Speaker 3: I just wonder it seems like there's a disconnect. You 640 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 3: seem positive, guys are not in trouble, but the narrative 641 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:55,080 Speaker 3: is very negative. 642 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 2: What do you think that's about. 643 00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 13: Well, first of all, when I say they're not in trouble, 644 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 13: it doesn't mean that I think that that they are 645 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:02,680 Speaker 13: going to go out and contend. 646 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:03,480 Speaker 12: For the Super Bowl this season. 647 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:06,400 Speaker 13: I think it means that they have a little bit 648 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 13: of time to figure out what they're doing here in 649 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 13: terms of their quarterback in the future. So I don't 650 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 13: know if they're going to even necessarily contend for the 651 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:18,240 Speaker 13: playoffs this season. I think it will all come down 652 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:20,720 Speaker 13: to if they get good quarterback play, and. 653 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:21,680 Speaker 12: That is the whole key. 654 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:24,000 Speaker 13: Joe Flacco is going to start the season, and what 655 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:27,479 Speaker 13: he has to do is hit those explosives plays, but 656 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:29,360 Speaker 13: stay away from the interceptions. 657 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:32,159 Speaker 12: Can he Pickett? He's coming back from a hamstring injury. 658 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 13: They really liked him a lot, and if he's ready 659 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:37,119 Speaker 13: to go sooner than later, then he will be back 660 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 13: in the conversation to be starting for this football team. 661 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 12: If Joe isn't getting the. 662 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 13: Job done and in the event that they need to 663 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 13: turn to someone else, I think they feel pretty good 664 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:51,240 Speaker 13: about Dylan Gabriel being able to go out there and function, 665 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:53,680 Speaker 13: But it comes down to quarterback play. 666 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 12: Can he manage the game? 667 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:57,680 Speaker 13: Can he find the open man, score some touchdowns, stay 668 00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 13: away from interceptions, not getting the turnover game like they 669 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 13: did last year. If they can do that, I think 670 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 13: they have enough pieces around the quarterback and on defense 671 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 13: where they can stay relevant for at least, you know, 672 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 13: maybe into November. 673 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:14,400 Speaker 2: Interesting. All right, we got about ninety seconds left. 674 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:17,480 Speaker 3: I'm curious, who do you think they could flip for 675 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 3: a higher draft pick? 676 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:20,840 Speaker 2: Can he pick it? Or Joe Flacco? 677 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,239 Speaker 3: Because it seems like, hey, if we could showcase one 678 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 3: of these somebody needs a quarterback, we could flip one 679 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 3: for all fourth. I don't know, but do you think 680 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 3: one has more value than the other? 681 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 4: Well? 682 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:33,960 Speaker 13: I would think at this point that a team might 683 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 13: be more interested in a Joe Flacco because he has 684 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 13: more experience and he's done it. But right now, I 685 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:42,720 Speaker 13: just don't really think they're thinking along those lines. They're 686 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:44,960 Speaker 13: not looking to trade one of these guys. And it 687 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:46,800 Speaker 13: almost seems like no matter what I say, or what 688 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:49,200 Speaker 13: I write, or what some other people say, or what 689 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:52,080 Speaker 13: even Andrew Barry says about keeping for nobody really wants 690 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 13: to believe that they're going to keep four quarterbacks. But 691 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 13: that is the plan. The only way that doesn't happen 692 00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 13: is if someone makes them an offer they absolutely can't refuse, 693 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 13: and that wouldn't happen unless a starter goes down. 694 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:04,600 Speaker 2: Got it, all right? 695 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:09,520 Speaker 3: Mary Kaycabot, Cleveland, Plaindealer, Cleveland, dot Com always asking the 696 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 3: tough questions. 697 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:12,959 Speaker 2: Thanks a lot, Mary Kay, and good luck this season. 698 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 12: Thanks a lot, thanks for having me all. 699 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 2: Right, good stuff from Mary Kay, Cabot Rachel. I like 700 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 2: her optimism. 701 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:23,840 Speaker 3: I mean it's totally she seems positive about everything with 702 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,520 Speaker 3: the Browns. And I'm not saying, you know, she's faking 703 00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 3: the funk or putting it on for TV, but like that, 704 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:31,760 Speaker 3: it doesn't The narrative that she's putting out from the 705 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:34,800 Speaker 3: Browns is totally different than the vibe of fans and pundits. 706 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 4: Right. 707 00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:37,240 Speaker 10: First of all, Mary Kay is a legend, so I 708 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:39,920 Speaker 10: trust for judgment on this. She's seen so many Browns 709 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 10: teams come and go. But I do think she's talking 710 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:46,120 Speaker 10: about specific areas of the team being more positive. She's 711 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 10: not talking about the overall outlook for the team being 712 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:49,480 Speaker 10: more positive. 713 00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:51,160 Speaker 9: She hit it right on the head. 714 00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 10: They're building, right, They're trying to build and rebuild this team, 715 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,640 Speaker 10: and there are positive spots within that rebuild. 716 00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:01,800 Speaker 9: Quarterback maybe one of maybe not. This team has gone. 717 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:04,360 Speaker 10: Through more starting quarterbacks than any other team in the 718 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:06,520 Speaker 10: league since they came back into the league in nineteen 719 00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:07,120 Speaker 10: ninety nine. 720 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:10,680 Speaker 3: That's pathetic and I'm a Jets fan, all right. Before 721 00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:14,000 Speaker 3: we go, two quick notes. So Matt Stafford full practice 722 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:17,480 Speaker 3: participant today. Rachel and I were right, He's fine and 723 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:20,840 Speaker 3: then not good. No sign of Micah Parsons during the 724 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:24,160 Speaker 3: open portion of practice to the media. That's from Todd Archie, 725 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:27,840 Speaker 3: who covers the Cowboys. So the Micah drama continues. Rachel 726 00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 3: and I were praying that this would get done tomorrow 727 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:31,400 Speaker 3: so we can move on to other. 728 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:34,440 Speaker 2: Topics, but the Cowboys mess continues. 729 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:36,800 Speaker 9: We'll never move on never, it's never happening. 730 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 2: All right, we'll see tomorrow