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Speaker 2: Here queen go one hand to catch it a touchdown?

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Speaker 4: Oh baby, how's that fail?

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Speaker 1: Here's Craiggriolu, Paul Calvic, and three time pro bowler Kyle Vandenbosch.

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Speaker 3: So outside of a four to five week window endo

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Speaker 3: June early July, the NFL has a stranglehold on the

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Speaker 3: calendar and that will is made perfectly clear this week

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Speaker 3: the NFL Annual League Meeting taking place in Orlando. A

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Speaker 3: lot of news and dare I say, Kyle that we

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Speaker 3: have to give credit to our co host over here,

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Speaker 3: Paul Calvic, because not so much the rule changes and

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Speaker 3: what the commissioner had to say, but the buzz that

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Speaker 3: is surrounding the Arizona Cardinals around that fourth overall pick,

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Speaker 3: and dare I say that maybe quarterback go one, two,

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Speaker 3: three and four?

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Speaker 4: All Right, I'm gonna stop short of ever given Paully

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Speaker 3: I teed that up for you.

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Speaker 4: Okay, he's usually grasping at straws, and every once in

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Speaker 4: a while he gets.

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Speaker 2: Like Kyle once again, let there be a fourth QB

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Speaker 2: as long as the Cardinals don't draft that QB. Attention,

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Speaker 2: Mike Tannanball, We'll get to that momentarily.

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Speaker 4: What is going on? Silly season right now? Now? But yeah,

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Speaker 4: this look, they're sitting in a great position, and I

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Speaker 4: know a lot of talk has already happened, a lot

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Speaker 4: more talk about what could possibly happen is is down

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Speaker 4: the road, possibly daily with all the mock drafts coming out,

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Speaker 4: But sitting in a great position. I mean, we had

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Speaker 4: hoped it would go one, two, three, just so we

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Speaker 4: could get Marvin Harrison junior. But now you know, there's

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Speaker 4: a lot of talk of so many teams looking to

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Speaker 4: pat knowing we potentially have a generational type talent sitting

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Speaker 4: there for us at number four, or we can just

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Speaker 4: take whatever offers come our way, knowing that we aren't

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Speaker 4: motivated to move right. You know what I love? You know,

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Speaker 4: mantiasa Fort there's a lot of talk. Well, even if

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Speaker 4: we take Marvin Harrison Junior, the Arizona Cardinals aren't just

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Speaker 4: one player away. But if you look at what a

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Speaker 4: generational type receiver can do for a team, I think

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Speaker 4: back to twenty twenty when the Cincinnati Bengals won four games.

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Speaker 4: Joe Burrow was hurt. They were talking that they had

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Speaker 4: And what did they do. They took Jamar Cha at

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Speaker 4: next year. And obviously they made other additions and Joe

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Speaker 4: Burrow's health was a big factor that they got into

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Speaker 4: the super Bowl that next year. But that's what a

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Speaker 4: Somebody that's gonna draw double teams, somebody that can catch

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Speaker 4: the ball in traffic. That's what they can do for

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Speaker 4: your team. So in no way are even if we're

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Speaker 4: not looking to move, teams know that, and they're gonna

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Speaker 4: have to sweeten the pot. And it's not just looking

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Speaker 4: It's you've got to make me move off of this pick.

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Speaker 4: We are certainly happy staying at four and taking Marvin

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Speaker 4: Harrison Junior, but you better offer the house if you

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Speaker 3: And I don't think there's just gonna be one offer, Paul.

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Speaker 3: I think there's going to be multiple offers teams looking

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Speaker 4: Off of that spot.

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Speaker 2: That's why when Sean Payton brought it up at these

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Speaker 2: Monty talking about Sean. So that's curious because you know

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Speaker 2: the Broncos aren't letting George Peyton run the show anymore.

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Speaker 2: The two time Seahawks team MVP George Payton, who has

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Speaker 2: Epic and historic in every way. But if I'm maniasin

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Speaker 2: So yes, Craig, there's plenty of competition, you would think.

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Speaker 3: The big topic conversation on Monday during the AFC Breakfast

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Speaker 3: with head coaches the Broncos head coach Sean Payton what

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Speaker 3: we've been talking about here his thoughts on Manti Asin

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Speaker 3: for courtesy Andrew Mason of Denver Sports dot Com.

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Speaker 4: I think it's realistic.

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Speaker 5: What's hard to predict, though, is like what's on the

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Speaker 5: at Arizona, right, It's hard to predict what that cost is.

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Speaker 5: And yet I certainly wouldn't say it's unrealistic.

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Speaker 3: Now, how realistic for the Broncos to move up from

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Speaker 3: where they are at number twelve. I think that's the conversation.

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Speaker 3: But it is good to be Manti Austin for it

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Speaker 3: because you can sit there and feel the offers. And Paul,

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Speaker 3: we saw what Mani was able to do a year

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Speaker 3: Do we see a repeat in some way this year

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Speaker 3: that wide receiver room is considerably lacking a number one, but.

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Speaker 2: It's the deepest position in the draft. And again I

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Speaker 2: come back to we don't know how much Manias and

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Speaker 2: for It truly values the receiver position itself. Does he

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Speaker 2: There are plenty of mock drafts that have that. So

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Speaker 2: that's one question. And then number two, I'm just struck

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Speaker 2: by Sean Payton saying that it's realistic. Why would he

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Speaker 2: been conversations and discussions. So for all the you know,

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Speaker 2: misinformation that's thrown out there. When Maniasiford tells the media

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Speaker 2: last week, there's a big open sign above our name

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Speaker 2: at number four. Yeah, that's legit. And I'm guessing between

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Speaker 2: the combine and ever other conversations, enough inquiries have been made,

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Speaker 2: enough groundwork has been laid that other teams say, yep,

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Speaker 3: And it sounds like it's going to take all the way.

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Speaker 3: When the Cardinals are on the clock those full ten

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Speaker 6: Be a big neon sign that says open, and we'll

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Speaker 6: I don't think. I don't like it blank and that

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Speaker 6: kind of messes with my eyes. But yeah, we're we're

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Speaker 6: always going to be listening. We'll always have the conversation,

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Speaker 6: whether it's at four or anywhere we're picking, but we're

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Speaker 6: always going to have the conversation. And if it makes sense,

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Speaker 6: and it if it's attractive to building our team, it's

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Speaker 6: something that we'll certainly consider no matter where we're at

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Speaker 2: There's only one thing, one thing only that could derail

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Speaker 2: all this is if the rest of the teams cool

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Speaker 2: off on Drake May. There's a Bucky Brooks three point

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Speaker 2: zero mock draft that came out today that as Drake

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Speaker 2: May plummeting to number eleven, Minnesota getting the quarterback they

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Speaker 2: So what happens if, indeed JJ McCarthy let there be

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Speaker 3: The opposite of that, though, is Drake May, Jade and

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Speaker 3: Daniels later this week have their Pro day. So just

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Speaker 3: by the new cycle alone Kyle, all of a sudden,

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Speaker 3: those two are gonna have their stock elevant. And then

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Speaker 3: we'll see how the rest of the league considers that

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Speaker 3: based off of the intel that these experts are, these

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Speaker 3: a mock draft. But that's something that I think we're

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Speaker 3: gonna have this discussion, and it's part of the draft

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Speaker 4: Yeah, to your point, very few players, quarterbacks in particular,

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Speaker 4: they're gonna be picked based on their pro day performance.

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Speaker 4: I mean that is set up for success. I mean,

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Speaker 4: at this moment, Jayden Daniels, Drake May, they're practicing, they're

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Speaker 4: they're they're set up for success. And everybody's always wowed

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Speaker 4: based on your accuracy. All of those things are nice.

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Speaker 4: None of them really show, you know, how they play

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Speaker 4: all all be already be done. So you know, if

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Speaker 4: scouting departments, if gms are changing their draft boards based

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Speaker 4: because all the information, at least all the fieldwork information

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Speaker 4: you think you need them to do, all of that

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Speaker 4: should already be finished.

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Speaker 7: You know.

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Speaker 4: Potentially based on interviews and how a guy is wired

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Speaker 4: adjust how you view a guy and whether you're going

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Speaker 4: to take him. But I don't think pro days do

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Speaker 2: And that's a valid point because if you search back,

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Speaker 2: correct me if I'm wrong, and I know you guys will.

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Speaker 2: Of all the QBS and all the pro days, all

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Speaker 2: the years, there was only one one quarterback who flopped

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Speaker 2: his pro day, Teddy Bridgewater, if you remember, that was

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Speaker 2: not good. It was not good, and it cost him.

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Speaker 2: He fell to the Vikings late first round where he's

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Speaker 2: projected be mid first round. But he's the only guy

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Speaker 2: McCarthy being number four. Maybe we're underestimating things. I think

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Speaker 2: what went under the radar from the league meetings yesterday,

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Speaker 2: Tom Pelo Sero said an NFL Network quote. When I've

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Speaker 2: Adam Peters well, the GM of the commanders, the most

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Speaker 2: to calm end. Quote Tom Pellisero, and we are less

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Speaker 3: Also very popular speaking of the NFL Annual League Meeting,

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Speaker 8: Go to the other side of the picture. This one

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Speaker 4: Over here, Damn jj JO This blew me away.

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Speaker 8: Biceps like crazy, also sockless. John Cannon is definitely first

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Speaker 4: So I'm onto you and I respect this about your game.

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Speaker 4: This is a pre photo pump. You cannot tell me

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Speaker 8: He got out and he did the close scripts. He

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Speaker 4: I do it before every segment.

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Speaker 8: I don't blame you at all, but that is definitely

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Speaker 8: We like to credit Salah and McDermott for how jack

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Speaker 4: We talk well all the time.

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Speaker 8: Four wins last year, but they had great wins and

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Speaker 8: imagine the odds if when the coaches photo came out

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Speaker 4: What that's your Cinderella in March.

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Speaker 8: That is your maddest The biceps are crazy.

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Speaker 4: I love him Gannon, who knew.

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Speaker 3: Very well done by Good Morning Football is Kyle Brandt. Now?

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Speaker 4: Was well done. I mean I was exhausted watching him

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Speaker 4: But yeah, look here, Jonathan Gannon's downplaying it. You know,

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Speaker 4: the pre photo pump is like fight club. You don't

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Speaker 4: You have pre photo pumps, you have pre video pumps.

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Speaker 4: You have pre game pumps where guys are doing dips

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Speaker 2: Come on, now, true or false? He doesn't work his arms.

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Speaker 4: Come on.

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Speaker 2: That's because if that's true, that life is truly not fair.

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Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying. I think that's all he's been

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Speaker 3: Cardinals radio network. Look at this paws on the ground,

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Speaker 1: Can I have a touchdown with Nichols?

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Speaker 4: The Raiders pick it up and rumble in the end zone.

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Speaker 3: Balal Nichols just grabbed it from right on the turf.

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Speaker 1: Snap back to pass pressure again off the edge. Battery

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Speaker 4: Have the Raiders defense has that.

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Speaker 3: Safety's He's six foot three, three hundred and thirteen pounds

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Speaker 3: red seat report, Craig Rayolupaul Calvic, and Kyle Vanenbosch and

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Speaker 3: focusing specifically on Balal Nichols. You just look at the size, Paul,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you need to be that size to register a squish. Okay,

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Speaker 2: that's the new analytic that we propose a squish. Three

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Speaker 4: So this became task number one. I know there is

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the Ryle liability, the durability of Nickels started every

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Speaker 9: That's a mindset, point blank period. If you could run

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Speaker 9: When they check the film, I hope they see a

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Speaker 3: And if you stop the run, consistently stop the run, Kyle,

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Speaker 4: and you talked about Blow Nichols and how big he is.

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Speaker 4: I think that's important because look, the NFL is a

436
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Speaker 4: numbers game. Offensive coordinators are looking at numbers. How many

437
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Speaker 4: guys do you have in the box? And if you

438
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Speaker 4: are constantly committing extra players in the box to stop

439
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Speaker 4: the run, you're gonna be in trouble. I mean, look

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Speaker 4: at a team in our division like the San Francisco

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Speaker 4: forty nine ers playing a team like them, You've got

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Speaker 4: to use as many resources as possible to try to

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Speaker 4: account for their weapons. You're gonna have to double team

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Speaker 4: players at times, so you can't commit to adding extra

445
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Speaker 4: players to the box. So sometimes you're gonna have to

446
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Speaker 4: stop the run with the light box with three defensive linemen,

447
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Speaker 4: and so you need big strong guys to eat up

448
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Speaker 4: those blocks to make sure you're not getting pushed off

449
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Speaker 4: the line of scrimmage, not even you know you're probably

450
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Speaker 4: with the light box. You're not gonna get tackles for

451
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Speaker 4: a loss. You're not gonna necessarily always stone them at

452
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Speaker 4: the line of scrimmage. But if you can hold up

453
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Speaker 4: with big, strong, physical players on that front and hold

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Speaker 4: the runs to one or two yards, then you're in

455
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Speaker 4: a good position because you do need to have resources

456
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Speaker 4: on the back end to account for all of the

457
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Speaker 4: receiving weapons or you know, tight ends or running backs

458
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Speaker 4: out of the backfield in the in the passing game.

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Speaker 4: So I think, you know, coaches can scheme up ways

460
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Speaker 4: to stop the run, but it's much better if you

461
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Speaker 4: can just do it with you know, lining up head

462
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Speaker 4: up and taking them on man to man. And that's

463
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Speaker 4: what I love hearing him say, you know, it's an attitude,

464
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Speaker 4: and to a large degree it is. It's a lot

465
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Speaker 4: of technique, but it's a lot of refusing to get

466
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Speaker 4: knocked off the ball, refusing to get moved even when

467
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Speaker 4: you're double team and holding up your job, then then

468
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Speaker 4: you can, you know, limit the runs and stop the

469
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Speaker 4: run with the light box and use the guys on

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Speaker 4: the back end to take care of everything else.

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Speaker 2: And by the way, speaking of the division, think of

472
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Speaker 2: the running backs in the division. The first team All

473
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Speaker 2: Pro running back this year was Christian McCaffrey. The second

474
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Speaker 2: team All Pro running back this year was Kyron Williams.

475
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Speaker 2: I think Kyle crunched the numbers seven yards of carrying

476
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Speaker 2: two games against the Cardinals. Kenneth Walker the third Seattle's

477
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Speaker 2: featured back. Do you think Mike McDonald coming from Baltimore

478
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Speaker 2: is gonna run Kenneth Walker, who, by the way, in

479
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Speaker 2: four games against the Cardinals is run for one O nine,

480
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Speaker 2: one oh five, ninety seven and seventy eight yards.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you got to be able to win the division.

482
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Speaker 3: Cardinals did not have a single win within the NFC

483
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Speaker 3: West a year ago. And it begins with stopping the run.

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Speaker 3: And you talk about the size Blall Nichols sixty three

485
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Speaker 3: three thirteen, Justin Jones six three three oh nine, Kyro's

486
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Speaker 3: Tonga six four three thirty eight. Yeah, a lot of

487
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Speaker 3: size that the Cardinals added again, in earlier this morning

488
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Speaker 3: in Orlando. What drew him to Nichols and Jones.

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Speaker 10: Versatility, violence, explosiveness, and then really well rounded games run

490
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Speaker 10: and pass game. They can both rush, they can both

491
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Speaker 10: play the run in multiple modes of run defense. I

492
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Speaker 10: think obviously availability. They're both pretty durable, which you never

493
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Speaker 10: know how that's going to go, but they've proven that

494
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Speaker 10: they can play. You know, a lot of snaps, just

495
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Speaker 10: the skill set of the guy, the makeup of the players.

496
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Speaker 10: You know, he did a lot of homework on those

497
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Speaker 10: guys to bring him in our building and glowing reviews

498
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Speaker 10: about the character and who they are, those guys.

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Speaker 3: And then you add or resign LJ. Collier, who was

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Speaker 3: not durable last season but showed enough Paul least in

501
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Speaker 3: the offseason, training camp, preseason and to say, okay, yeah

502
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Speaker 3: it didn't work, but for what one game? But hey,

503
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Speaker 3: we want you now. He's not as big as far

504
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Speaker 3: as a three hundred pounder, but maybe a little bit

505
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Speaker 3: more on the the edge as opposed to an interior

506
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Speaker 3: defensive linebook.

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Speaker 2: He was taken the end of the first round by

508
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Speaker 2: Seattle years ago for a reason. He's still in his prime.

509
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Speaker 2: He didn't like to fit in Seattle with a defensive scheme.

510
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Speaker 2: Things just didn't work for him there. And you're right,

511
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Speaker 2: he really flashed in training camp. He started week one

512
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Speaker 2: as a starter, didn't make it through week one, but

513
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Speaker 2: he was productive until that biceps injury. So he comes

514
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Speaker 2: back on a very team friendly deal. Let's see what

515
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Speaker 2: he can do. Add him to the rotation based on

516
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Speaker 2: what he said last year. He's very motivated to prove

517
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Speaker 2: himself in this league, something he was never able to

518
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Speaker 2: do in Seattle. And to your point, if you can

519
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Speaker 2: get these teams into third and long, third obvious passing situation,

520
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Speaker 2: second and obvious passing situations, which didn't happen often enough

521
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Speaker 2: last year because of the lack of run defense, we

522
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Speaker 2: saw Nick Ross and Jonathan Gannon dial up some crazy,

523
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Speaker 2: unconventional defensive fronts. Even Matthew Stafford cited that last year,

524
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Speaker 2: like what are the Cardinals doing on third and obvious?

525
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Speaker 2: You got four guys walking around, Nobody has their hand

526
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Speaker 2: in the dirt, So that's intriguing. I think the code proven.

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Speaker 2: If you can get him in those third and passing situations,

528
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Speaker 2: look out.

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Speaker 3: And I don't know if the Cardinals are quite done

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Speaker 3: on the defensive line. According to reports, they met last

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Speaker 3: week with Jonah Williams, the former Rams defensive end who

532
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Speaker 3: signed with the Vikings. They also reportedly met with Chargers

533
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Speaker 3: defensive lineman Austin Johnson, who signed with the Bills. There

534
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Speaker 3: might be some more movement in that d line room

535
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Speaker 3: still to have, maybe even in the draft, if not

536
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Speaker 3: dot com. Darren Urban. He is in Orlando. He was

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Speaker 3: in attendance when Jonathan Gannon met the media very early

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Speaker 3: this morning. Arizona Time. The latest from Orlando and some

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Speaker 3: of the new rules and regulations straight ahead here on

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Speaker 3: the Arizona Cardinals work.

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Speaker 10: After review, it is an incomplete pad.

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Speaker 3: So Gannet one for one, saved his best and only

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Speaker 3: for last.

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Speaker 2: First time you used the red flag and it worked out.

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Speaker 4: Huh yeah, one for one.

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Speaker 2: It had been twenty years since the head coach had

552
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Speaker 2: gone entire season, so I know they reminded you of

553
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Speaker 2: that recently.

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Speaker 10: I put myself behind the team there because I really

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Speaker 10: didn't want to throw it.

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Speaker 3: I'll say this, if Gannon decides to throw it this

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Speaker 3: upcoming season and is successful, he will earn himself a

558
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Speaker 3: third challenge one of the new rules regulations. If you

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Speaker 3: will approve by owners at the annual league meeting that yeah,

560
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Speaker 3: you get a third challenge as long as one of

561
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Speaker 3: your first two previous challenges is successful. As we say,

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Speaker 3: welcome back, it is the Cardinals Red Seat Report Craig

563
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Speaker 3: Raylupaul KELVC and Covanbosch. And as promised, we tracked down

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Speaker 3: Darren Urban, who I believe is on his way back

565
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Speaker 3: to Arizona spending some time with the elite, the owners,

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Speaker 3: the coaches in Orlando at the annual league meeting. Darren,

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Speaker 3: how you doing nobbing?

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Speaker 7: I'm not quite on my way back. I'm sitting in

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Speaker 7: an airport. I mean me, on your way back would

570
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Speaker 7: actually be on an airplane moving, but I am not

571
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Speaker 7: quite to that.

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Speaker 3: Well, you did get in a car or a vehicle

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Speaker 3: from the hotel to the airport, so you're kind of

574
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Speaker 3: on your way.

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Speaker 7: I'm in a holding.

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Speaker 2: Pattern, all right, So look, if you run into JG

577
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Speaker 2: again in the airport perhaps and you might have his

578
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Speaker 2: own separate private transportation. Do us all a favor because

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Speaker 2: I know he told you earlier today there will be

580
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Speaker 2: a joint practice against an AFC team, and he said

581
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Speaker 2: a good AFC team. So I would just like to

582
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Speaker 2: put in kind of a self serving request that it's

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Speaker 2: not against Miami, Jacksonville or Houston. Okay, we don't need

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Speaker 2: that sort of humidity, Darren.

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Speaker 7: That's right. Are you are you? Are you training that

586
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Speaker 7: in for the possibility of having a Wednesday Christmas Day game?

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Speaker 4: That's right?

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00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 2: Oh boy, you're right, Christmas Day doubleheader, even though it's

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Speaker 2: on a Wednesday.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if I like that. I'm not sure

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Speaker 3: the NBA would like it either. But speaking of Jonathan

592
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Speaker 3: Gannon his thirty minutes sit down with the media, I think, Darren,

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Speaker 3: the big news item was the joint practice, or the

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Speaker 3: announcement of a joint practice for a second straight year

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Speaker 3: since Gannon has been the head coach. Anything else, though,

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Speaker 3: stand out as far as what Gannon had to tell

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Speaker 3: you and everyone else, I mean.

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Speaker 7: Not necessarily stand out. I wouldn't say. I mean, he

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Speaker 7: hit a couple of highlights. I mean, I did notice,

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Speaker 7: and I know you're a big fan of all the

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Speaker 7: Kyler Murray questions that continue to come towards Jonathan Gannon.

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Speaker 7: But I think, and he said this before, I think

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Speaker 7: the idea that his excitement to get Kyler Murray for

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Speaker 7: an offseason is palpable at this point. And obviously Kyler

605
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Speaker 7: wasn't able to do that last offseason because of the injury.

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Speaker 7: And you truly get the belief that they think he

607
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Speaker 7: can make a big jump just by having that kind

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Speaker 7: of time on task with Drew pettsing and working with

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Speaker 7: this offense. So that was something that jumped out at me.

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Speaker 7: And then you know, a couple other guys that you know,

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Speaker 7: he sounded very optimistic about. Now, again, you take it

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Speaker 7: with a grain of salt, and Jonathan Gannon's not the

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Speaker 7: kind of guy who's gonna throw a guy under the bus.

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Speaker 7: But the way he talked about Greg Dorch and the

615
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Speaker 7: way he talked about David Collins makes me believe that

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Speaker 7: those guys are going to get every opportunity to prove

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Speaker 7: that they can be solid contributors to this team.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought that Zavin Collins question and answer was interesting.

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Speaker 2: We're all trying to figure out his future. And the

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Speaker 2: one thing Gannon said that I thought was significant, he said,

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Speaker 2: you know what, you just can't overthink things. And Kyle,

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Speaker 2: I mean when you watched Davin Collins play last year,

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Speaker 2: and as someone who played the position at a very

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Speaker 2: high level, do you think because East made it sound like,

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Speaker 2: you know what, Zavin this year just needs to unleash it,

626
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Speaker 2: think less, be athletic more.

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Speaker 4: Would you agree with that. Yeah, it's a lot like

628
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Speaker 4: like a rookie sophomore season, your second second year in

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Speaker 4: the NFL. I mean, you typically take a pretty big leap,

630
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Speaker 4: at least a lot of players do. And it's the

631
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Speaker 4: same thing when you move to a completely different position.

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Speaker 4: It calls for a completely different mindset, a completely different

633
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Speaker 4: skill set, and it takes time to hone your craft.

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Speaker 4: You know, I think he did come around and was

635
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Speaker 4: playing well late in the season, and I think another

636
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Speaker 4: full offseason to work his craft to you know, work

637
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Speaker 4: on his pass rush to develop you know, what is

638
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 4: my go to move and then you know, come up

639
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:33,480
Speaker 4: with one or two counters off of that. But you know,

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Speaker 4: he's definitely a student of the game. He's gonna figure

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Speaker 4: out what he does best, what what offensive tackles are

642
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Speaker 4: vulnerable to, and and be able to bring that into

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Speaker 4: year two. I just think, you know, a full year

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Speaker 4: of experience coming off the edge, it'll definitely help him.

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Speaker 4: I think you'll you'll see some drastic improvements in year two.

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Speaker 3: Darren, you brought up Greg Dortsch and league wide, the

647
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Speaker 3: news of the day is this hybrid kickoff rule and

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Speaker 3: I wonder what that means because Scanning kind of hinted

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Speaker 3: it when it was asked about the specialists and the

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Speaker 3: resigning of Blake Gillikin, And now all of a sudden

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Speaker 3: you add DJ Dallas. Does Greg dorg seymore work on offense?

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Speaker 3: And was the reason you got DJ Dallas is because

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Speaker 3: you are expecting this rule change as far as kickoffs

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Speaker 3: were concerned.

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Speaker 7: I think the Dallas thing, the DJ Dallas thing, could

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Speaker 7: be part of that. But you know, I don't know

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Speaker 7: if that means in terms of returns. You know, I

658
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Speaker 7: think there's some questions out there as we listen to

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Speaker 7: the press conference today talking about the kickoff changes, how

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Speaker 7: much might that impact what kind of players are playing

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Speaker 7: on the kickoff return and the kickoff coverage seams? I mean,

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Speaker 7: all of a sudden, you've got all these guys that

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Speaker 7: are lined up five yards away from each other and

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Speaker 7: can't move right away. I mean, are you gonna look

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Speaker 7: for different body types? Are you gonna look for different

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Speaker 7: kinds of speed guys? I mean, it may be a

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Speaker 7: little bit different than it once was when you're trying

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Speaker 7: to get guys to sprint seventy yards down seat to

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Speaker 7: make a tackle.

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Speaker 2: Darren Urban at the league meetings coming from Orlando back

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Speaker 2: to the A Z from the outside looking in there,

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Speaker 2: and there seemed to be a lot of buzz about

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Speaker 2: a JJ McCarthy. Where's it going? Tom Pelasero even said

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Speaker 2: that he did an anonymous poll of other executives and

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Speaker 2: they think, or at least the most popular answer is

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Speaker 2: JJ McCarthy now going number two to Washington. And then,

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Speaker 2: of course, if he is the fourth QB, there's the

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Speaker 2: team picking number four and maybe the pivot point of

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Speaker 2: the draft. And we heard what Sean Payton had to say,

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Speaker 2: So just in general, what was the buzz about the

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Speaker 2: Cardinals at four and whether there might be four quarterbacks

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Speaker 2: and then hence a Cardinals trade.

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Speaker 7: Well, I'm just going to tell you, Paul that I

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Speaker 7: feel very I felt very well prepared with all of it,

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Speaker 7: since you've been talking about JJ McCarthy up there all

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Speaker 7: these weeks.

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Speaker 4: There you go.

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Speaker 7: But I you know what, I think there's a lot

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Speaker 7: of unknown and I thought Monty awesome for when I

690
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Speaker 7: got a brief chance to talk to him yesterday. I

691
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Speaker 7: thought hit it on the head, which is when it

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Speaker 7: comes to the Cardinals. Their their involvement in this conversation

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Speaker 7: is basically tangential because they're the number four team, But

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Speaker 7: it has everything to do with the three teams in

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Speaker 7: front of them and that what they might do. And

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Speaker 7: I think there's a lot to be said about that.

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Speaker 7: I think it's less about whether the Cardinals are hunting

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Speaker 7: to make a trade or not make a trade. But

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Speaker 7: you know exactly what is gonna happen. I think it's

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Speaker 7: pretty clear Kayleb Williams is gonna go one to the Bears.

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Speaker 7: So then what does happen? Does Do the Commanders go

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Speaker 7: with McCarthy, Do they go with Drake May, do they

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Speaker 7: go with Jayden Daniels. Heck, they even let it out

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Speaker 7: there that maybe they trade the pick. I don't think

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Speaker 7: that'll happen. The Patriots a little bit more in question.

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Speaker 7: I think Robert Kraft wants to get a quarterback, but

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Speaker 7: is the right guy there at three? And I just

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Speaker 7: think there's there's so much there that it's a very

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Speaker 7: sexy topic. But as we've talked about before, like the

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Speaker 7: chances are incredibly high that at least one or two

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Speaker 7: of these guys, and who knows, maybe three of them

712
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Speaker 7: out of these four guys, I'll bust. So you know,

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Speaker 7: there's a certain buyer beam layer when it comes to this.

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Speaker 7: If I'm a team, I want to be very convicted

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Speaker 7: on whoever I take, whoever's there, and if that person's

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Speaker 7: not there, maybe I do think about moving moving out.

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Speaker 3: If you missed any of Darren's work this week in

718
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Speaker 3: Orlando got Azycardinals dot com, including his latest article five

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Speaker 3: takeaways from Jonathan Gannon's meet and greet with the media

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Speaker 3: this morning, Darren, appreciate it. Safe travels and we'll see

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Speaker 3: us soon.

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Speaker 7: See in the office tomorrow. Guys.

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Speaker 2: All right, thanks Darren, good job with the question about

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Speaker 2: the workout and Jonathan Ganning, which, by the way, if

725
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Speaker 2: he does not work arms, I'm done, I give up.

726
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Speaker 2: I'm never going to the gym again.

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Speaker 4: It's just not fair.

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Speaker 3: Appreciate it, Darren, Hey, real quick before we head to

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Speaker 3: a break, Kyle, the one league rule that I think

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Speaker 3: has caused a lot of attention, especially amongst your fellow defenders,

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Speaker 3: is the banning of the hip drop tackle, or specifically

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Speaker 3: the swivel hip drop tackle. And we've seen moves banned

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Speaker 3: before or relegated out of the game. Players adjust, but

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Speaker 3: this one seemed to have a lot more noise behind it,

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Speaker 3: at least on social media.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a lot of complaints.

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Speaker 7: You know.

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Speaker 4: Look, it is difficult as a defender to tackle the

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Speaker 4: right way. However, there is a way, and the hip drop,

740
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Speaker 4: to me is just an extension of the horse collar tackle.

741
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Speaker 4: When you grab a piece of either shoulder pads or

742
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Speaker 4: the other person's body and you just unweight yourself and

743
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Speaker 4: drop to the ground. That's when the potential for injury happens.

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Speaker 4: And I read an athletic article they went back in

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Speaker 4: last year. If this rule was in place, it could

746
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Speaker 4: have been called potentially two hundred and thirty times. That's

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Speaker 4: about once per game, which is not a large amount

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Speaker 4: of penalties. But of those two thirty fifteen of those

749
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Speaker 4: hip drop quote unquote hip drop tackles, fifteen of them

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Speaker 4: led to injuries, which is a high injury rate. You're

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Speaker 4: looking at about you know, six and a half percent

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Speaker 4: of the hip drop tackles led to an injury. So

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Speaker 4: I think it's valid. I think it's warranted. The tackle

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Speaker 4: and the technique itself. It's not as it comes when

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Speaker 4: you're either chasing a player from the side or from

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Speaker 4: behind and you just grab and unweight yourself to get

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Speaker 4: them on the ground. But you know, if you run

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Speaker 4: through them, if you wrap the knees, wrap the ankles,

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Speaker 4: there's plenty of ways to get that player on the ground,

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Speaker 4: and in my opinion, better ways. So I don't think

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Speaker 4: it's a big deal. I think the complaints aren't necessarily

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Speaker 4: you know, hitting the right spot. You know, they're it's

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Speaker 4: it's not making the game softer in any way. If anything,

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Speaker 4: the hip drop tackle is kind of a soft way

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Speaker 4: of tackling because instead of running through the player and

766
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Speaker 4: wrapping them up, you're just grabbing and yanking them to

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Speaker 4: the ground. So I think it's it's it's a good

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Speaker 4: rule change, and it will add you know, potentially hopefully,

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Speaker 4: you know, it'll keep more players on the roster late

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Speaker 4: in the season.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't mark the demise of full speed, full contact football.

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Speaker 2: Come on, let's not lose our mind. To Kyle's point,

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Speaker 2: it happens maybe once a game. Yes, it'll be flagged

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Speaker 2: up by the referees in the preseason. It'll be a

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Speaker 2: point emphasis. It might drive some people nuts. But there's

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Speaker 2: still full speed tackling, there's still blocking, it's still full contact.

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Speaker 2: So no, there's no need there or anything in and

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Speaker 2: about putting flags on the players.

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Speaker 3: Some other new things. For twenty twenty four, the trade

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Speaker 3: deadline has been moved to the Tuesday after Week nine,

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Speaker 3: so a week or two later than most recently this

782
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:23,360
Speaker 3: past season. Practice squad quarterbacks can be elevated to the

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Speaker 3: active roster as a team's emergency third quarterback, and teams

784
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Speaker 3: can designate a maximum of two players per return when

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Speaker 3: they are placed on IR on the final roster cutdown day.

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Speaker 3: John Gains in this case might have been eligible to

787
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Speaker 3: return in season. This is the Arizona Cardinals radio network.

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Speaker 6: We're intentional about the players that we add. It's not

789
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Speaker 6: a case where we're just going out and signing players

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Speaker 6: and picking them out of a hat. I mean the

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Speaker 6: players that we are selecting for us, whether it's to

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Speaker 6: the draft or free agency, or are guys that we

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Speaker 6: feel have a good fit in what we're going to

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Speaker 6: ask them to do. There's plenty of players, whether it's

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Speaker 6: this draft cycle or a free agency that they're good players,

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Speaker 6: but they maybe their skill set lends itself to a

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Speaker 6: different scheme. And that's fine, that's going to happen every year.

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Speaker 6: But the guys that we ultimately add to this roster

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Speaker 6: are guys that we believe can do what we ask

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Speaker 6: them to do in our scheme. That's an important part

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Speaker 6: of any person that we add to this program.

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Speaker 3: The word GM money Austin for used when addressing reporters

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Speaker 3: last week, adding new players being intentional. Do they fit

804
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Speaker 3: the scheme? Do they fit the locker room? Do they

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Speaker 3: fit what we do here with the Arizona Cardinals in

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty four, and some of those big names just

807
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:43,880
Speaker 3: might not fit or they team might not be ready

808
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:46,799
Speaker 3: for a big name that might have been available on

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Speaker 3: the free agent market, we say welcome back here on

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Speaker 3: the Cardinals Red Seer Report craigoriolupaulk Alvc, and ky Vnabosh.

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Speaker 3: If you missed it, we had Darren Urban Live for

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00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 3: Orlando from the Annual League meeting in our previous segment,

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Speaker 3: appreciate Darren joining us here on this two. We did

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Speaker 3: see a lot of trends, I think, Kyle, as far

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Speaker 3: as the players that giam Monti Austin Ford added this offseason. One,

816
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Speaker 3: if you're a receiver, you got to be taller than

817
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Speaker 3: six foot tall. And if you are a new player,

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Speaker 3: that durability is priority number one. You do mean no

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Speaker 3: good if you're not available on game day. And we

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Speaker 3: saw every single new player added in free agency played

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Speaker 3: at least fourteen games last season. Your best ability is availability,

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Speaker 3: and I think that is outside of talent. Yeah, you

823
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Speaker 3: got to be able to play the game, but can

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Speaker 3: you play the game each and every week?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's been big, particularly with the last two seasons

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Speaker 4: we've had here. You know, you combine the last two

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Speaker 4: seasons for the Arizona Cardinals, I don't know that any

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Speaker 4: team has had more players miss games because of injuries,

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Speaker 4: more players put in ir more misstarts. You know, we

830
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Speaker 4: thought it was bad two years ago, and then some

831
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Speaker 4: of the same things happened this past year, and so

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Speaker 4: you know, it's it's tough. You can't always predict injuries.

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00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 4: You can't forecast when they're gonna come or how they're

834
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:07,759
Speaker 4: gonna come, and sometimes it's just a matter of luck.

835
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Speaker 4: But it's huge, I mean to to you know, we

836
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Speaker 4: talked about this before, but to sign a guy mid

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Speaker 4: season and expect him to come in understand your system,

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Speaker 4: understand your techniques, understand the checks, and for him to

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Speaker 4: go out there on a Sunday and be effective it's

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00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:28,239
Speaker 4: extremely difficult, extremely difficult for the coaching staff, for the

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Speaker 4: player himself, and and really, you know, late in a season,

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Speaker 4: when you're trying to make a push, when you're trying

843
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 4: to get into the playoffs and you're playing with new guys,

844
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Speaker 4: it's it's it doesn't work. And so what you do

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Speaker 4: is you you look for guys that you can count on,

846
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Speaker 4: and sometimes you do, and that I don't believe that's

847
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:50,239
Speaker 4: the case with our free agent signs, but sometimes you

848
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 4: do sacrifice a little bit in the talent category for

849
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:56,840
Speaker 4: the availability and accountability category, because you just need to

850
00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 4: know that I could count on this guy on Sundays,

851
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Speaker 4: I know what I have and I could build my

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00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 4: game plan around that. Whereas you're you know, with guys

853
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 4: in and out of the lineup are guys who have

854
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 4: inconsistent effort. You're just it's always a guessing game. You

855
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:12,240
Speaker 4: don't know which guy's going to show up on Sundays

856
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:13,919
Speaker 4: or if he's going to show up at all. It's

857
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 4: hard to predict.

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Speaker 3: But you're looking for a track record, and the players

859
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Speaker 3: added and free agency have a track record. What's even

860
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 3: harder to predict, it's what's going to happen in the

861
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Speaker 3: upcoming draft. We are less than a month away. Cardinals

862
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:30,879
Speaker 3: with eleven draft picks, six in the first ninety two

863
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 3: in the first round. The number one pick is the

864
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Speaker 3: fourth overall pick, though Manti Austin Ford last week telling reporters, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: there is interest in that fourth overall pick.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 6: I'd say those phone calls are starting to pick up

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Speaker 6: a little bit, you know. I would say they'll probably

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Speaker 6: continue when we go down to Florida for the owners meetings.

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Speaker 6: I would imagine some of those conversations will continue to

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Speaker 6: pick up, you know, But honestly, they probably will not

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Speaker 6: get real serious until we get right up until the

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Speaker 6: week of the draft.

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Speaker 3: More to last year, to be a fly on the wall,

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Speaker 3: Paul in Orlando, for some of those conversations that Monty

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Speaker 3: Austin Fort may or may not have had this past week,

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Speaker 3: or I should say Sunday into Tuesday morning, because as

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Speaker 3: we discussed already, there is certainly a buzz around that

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Speaker 3: fourth overall pick.

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Speaker 2: It's the pivot point in the draft right now. The

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Speaker 2: top three teams are going quarterback, and if they don't,

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Speaker 2: they're trading to a team who's coming up for a quarterback.

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Speaker 2: So what will the Cardinals do at number four? Will

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Speaker 2: they take the generational receiver? By all accounts, although you

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Speaker 2: guys know, I'm not nearly as on board a unanisimally

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Speaker 2: as a complete slam dunk that Marvin Harrison Junior is

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Speaker 2: that much better than Romadonday and or Malik Neighbors. Do

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Speaker 2: the Cardinals even value receiver that much to go number four?

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Speaker 2: Will they trade out? Will they trade down? Will some

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Speaker 2: team make them an offer they can't refuse that that

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Speaker 2: tends to be my opinion, And then you just get

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Speaker 2: the silly season. And the only reason I bring this

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Speaker 2: up is because Mike Tannenbaum earlier today, a guy who

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Speaker 2: ran an NFL warm point zero zero zero one percent

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Speaker 2: of the world has run an NFL warroom and for

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Speaker 2: him to advance out there, that the Cardinals should draft

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Speaker 2: JJ McCarthy at number four, then trade Kyler Murray plus

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Speaker 2: a third round pick to Minnesota for eleven. Then take

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Speaker 2: Quinny and Mitchell the corner at eleven, and then take

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Speaker 2: the receiver Ladd McConkie at twenty seven. So now you

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Speaker 2: have JJ McCarthy and Ladd McConkie instead of Kyler and

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Speaker 2: Marvin Harrison junior. That's a no komprendo. But that's where

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Speaker 2: we are at this point.

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Speaker 3: And stress the word silly, Kyle, when we talk about scenarios.

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Speaker 4: Like that, it's absolutely silly.

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Speaker 7: You know.

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Speaker 4: Look, there's some talk about what if we traded away

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Speaker 4: and Marvin Harrison becomes a generational talent like we think

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Speaker 4: he will be. Look, this is why you hire a

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Speaker 4: competent GM with competent people. They've got their system in place,

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Speaker 4: they know what they're looking for, and you just got

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Speaker 4: to you just got to trust them. You know, it's

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Speaker 4: taking him a full year to get the people he

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Speaker 4: wants around him to make the right decision to go

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Speaker 4: through this type of process. But if the trade is made,

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Speaker 4: it will be done based on their evaluations and their

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Speaker 4: analytics and it will be the right decision.

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Speaker 3: A month away, A lot to discuss until then. This

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Speaker 3: is the Arizona Cardinals Radio Network.

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Speaker 3: Boot a Baker with the sacked strip the ball where

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Speaker 3: he's gonna score touchdown?

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