Speaker 1: Welcome to Worst Year Ever, A production of I Heart
Speaker 1: Radio Together everything, So don't don't don't. Oh, I did
Speaker 1: my part today. What else is going on? I don't know.
Speaker 1: I've done all of my work for the week. Oh good, good,
Speaker 1: good job. What are you gonna do with your time now?
Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe fish? What kind of fish? Um?
Speaker 1: I don't know, Like, uh, whatever's whatever's in the creek.
Speaker 1: I'll just throw needles in the creek until I get
Speaker 1: a trash. Yeah. So you fish by tossing needles like
Speaker 1: like shooting them kind of like like like just throwing
Speaker 1: pile handfuls of them, just handfuls of needles into a
Speaker 1: creek until I get a fish. Okay, it's like a
Speaker 1: trap kind of like you put it down and then
Speaker 1: hope they swim into the needle. Yeah, they swim into
Speaker 1: the needles. Like how we used to fish, Yeah, like
Speaker 1: the old times. Yes, you say, like the ancient ancients. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the old days they used to fish with needles. That's
Speaker 1: how it works. Yeah, basic anthropology here. Well, it's so
Speaker 1: nice that before we've even started recording, you're done with
Speaker 1: your work for the week. That's so nice for you. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I'm done. All right, Well, you guys have a good recording.
Speaker 1: Wait oh wait, wait, wait oh? How was your weekend?
Speaker 1: Can I fish too? It was? How was my weekend?
Speaker 1: What did I do? I don't even know? You can
Speaker 1: do a party at my house? I did go to
Speaker 1: a party of your house? Right? How much time is
Speaker 1: meaningless to? Yeah? Yeah? How's your weekend? Did you go
Speaker 1: to a party at your house? I did? I threw
Speaker 1: a party at my house. It's tiring. It's fun. It
Speaker 1: was tiring parties, am I right? Anyway, Sophie, you how
Speaker 1: was your weekend? This is fun? This is what people
Speaker 1: tune in for. Right. I got my flu shot and
Speaker 1: then I got a fever, and mom hurt, But I
Speaker 1: got my flu shot. She gives me fever. Thanks, fever, fever,
Speaker 1: when you touched me fever, when you hold me tight ve.
Speaker 1: My goal is to pety sing songs on most episodes.
Speaker 1: Remember when this was a news podcast barely. I've been
Speaker 1: thinking about that. I've been thinking about the evolution of
Speaker 1: this show a lot. There's a lot the devolution, that's
Speaker 1: the right term, because now there's a lot of crossover
Speaker 1: between what we're doing in all the various other projects.
Speaker 1: But it's such a nice podcast. Too many pod podcast
Speaker 1: But like, I like this group of people, you know,
Speaker 1: and so it's fun. I like talking about the news
Speaker 1: with you guys. But it is interesting to be like,
Speaker 1: what are we gonna talk about this week? How do
Speaker 1: we space ou out other other shows? Who has the
Speaker 1: time when we all show up and we're like, hey,
Speaker 1: it's friends that we get to talk to you about chaos? Um,
Speaker 1: But it was I was messaging with Robert at some point.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Time is funny like that, um, and
Speaker 1: recalling that the original mandate for the show was to
Speaker 1: unpack the election and to travel around and talk to people,
Speaker 1: and now I mostly talk to you from I am
Speaker 1: hopeful that we can start to branch out and do
Speaker 1: some projects here like that. Maybe one day you guys
Speaker 1: want to talk quickly about the giant tungsten cube. Um,
Speaker 1: you go more than anything. So I got no plans.
Speaker 1: In the crypto world, oh, a minor tungsten shortage, at
Speaker 1: least within one or two companies, has been caused because,
Speaker 1: for reasons of basically just a meme, crypto bros have
Speaker 1: been buying tungsten cubes. Tungsten is an extremely dense metal
Speaker 1: you make like army piercing amm o out of it.
Speaker 1: For one thing, because like a little bit of tungsten,
Speaker 1: like a four inch tungsten tungsten cube, it's like forty pounds.
Speaker 1: It's just like a weird dense metal. Some people have
Speaker 1: been buying cubes just because they think it's neat, and
Speaker 1: it became kind of a crypto meme, and so this company,
Speaker 1: Midwest Tungsten, decided to capitalize on it by making the
Speaker 1: biggest tungsten cube they possibly could, which was like, I want,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to look at the it's it's uh fourteen
Speaker 1: inches UM around and it weighs almost two thousand pounds UM,
Speaker 1: and they wanted there. They're selling it, but because it's
Speaker 1: would be a nightmare to actually move anywhere, they're not
Speaker 1: really selling it. They're selling it as an n f
Speaker 1: T UM starting at two grand. It will probably go
Speaker 1: for much for millions UM. But you don't actually own
Speaker 1: the cube. But if you buy the cube as an
Speaker 1: n F t you can come see it once a
Speaker 1: year at their off time share. Yeah. Well, no, only
Speaker 1: one person gets to see it once a year, and
Speaker 1: if you later sell it, if that person is already
Speaker 1: visited and touched the cube earlier that year. You can't
Speaker 1: do it for a whole other year. Don't understand. I'm
Speaker 1: going to be honest, and I'm sure a lot of
Speaker 1: people will lose respect for me. I don't understand it.
Speaker 1: It don't understand. I don't I don't understand bitcoin mining.
Speaker 1: I don't understand. Okay, So here's what you need to understand.
Speaker 1: If you man in illegal drugs, or if you made
Speaker 1: it and you just want to avoid taxes on it,
Speaker 1: if you've committed a bunch of crimes and you need
Speaker 1: a way to like kind of wash and scrub your
Speaker 1: laundry your money the way you would like your laundry,
Speaker 1: you can use crypto to do that. And that's that's why.
Speaker 1: That's what all of these like Giant Crypto Transaction are
Speaker 1: a somebody trying to launder money. Um, it's it's it's
Speaker 1: all a big fucking sketchy grift propped up by a
Speaker 1: handful of true believers and a bunch of more people
Speaker 1: who recognize that pretending to be true believers is a
Speaker 1: great way to keep a pretty good money laundering scheme going.
Speaker 1: Um So that's all I need to understand. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: not nothing else matters. Um. We did a two parter
Speaker 1: about it that will come out that everyone's going to
Speaker 1: find as frustrating as I found researching it. But it's
Speaker 1: it's just dumb and it's it's stupid. Um uh yep
Speaker 1: on Bastards or shows on Bastards. I read a Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's just all dumb. But the fucking yeah, it's
Speaker 1: sucking cube. It's just like it's the fucking cube. Yeah, good,
Speaker 1: good for you guys. Like that's what you want to do.
Speaker 1: And that's what because like money is stupid and fake.
Speaker 1: It is it always is, like currency is fiat currency.
Speaker 1: That's why I like the fucking pressure metal. People are
Speaker 1: just like, Okay, well what's gold worth? Really? What's gold worth?
Speaker 1: Like making a space suit? Then gold's worth nothing like exactly,
Speaker 1: so like so like whatever whatever there and this kind
Speaker 1: of like points to that. So in a way, I'm like,
Speaker 1: good for you guys, You're you're illustrating how stupid money is. Um.
Speaker 1: But maybe the cube isn't worth it. Yeah, maybe the
Speaker 1: cube isn't worth it. Maybe the fucking terrible ape drawings
Speaker 1: aren't worth it. Maybe the the the automatically generated lion
Speaker 1: pictures aren't worth hundreds of thousands or millions of dollars.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's all very dumb, but at the same time,
Speaker 1: if people will pay for something, that's what it's worth,
Speaker 1: because that's how capitalism works, which is why Tim Pool
Speaker 1: owns a big house so and Hassan owns a big
Speaker 1: house too. It's it's whatever, it's how, it's the entire
Speaker 1: it's the system we live under. The two genders Hassan
Speaker 1: and the reality is that in ft are really really dumb,
Speaker 1: but also when you really think about it, not inherently
Speaker 1: dumber than in the rest of currency. It's it's a sideshow. Yeah,
Speaker 1: David read David Graber's debt the first five thousand years, Um,
Speaker 1: I have to. Yeah, you'll like it's actually written, it's
Speaker 1: it's it will clear up an enormous amount of important
Speaker 1: questions you have about the way that currency works. And
Speaker 1: it's also very well written because David Graber was a genius. Um,
Speaker 1: I'm either getting less smart smart or I'm just so
Speaker 1: oversaturated that it's hard to sit down and read things.
Speaker 1: But that's the recommendation, and I'll do it. You have
Speaker 1: to force yourself to rece myself to do everything. Robert,
Speaker 1: so do I. Sophie will tell you the only thing
Speaker 1: human condition. Yeah, the human condition. I thought, being an adult,
Speaker 1: it would be better than this, just the problem with
Speaker 1: the only difference. When I was a kid, there was
Speaker 1: somebody else making me do stuff, and so it was
Speaker 1: easier than it. Now I gotta go read a goddamn
Speaker 1: book because I used to have so much fucking ability
Speaker 1: to focus on books. And yeah, now I have to
Speaker 1: read like three at a time in order to read one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's really hard. It's a d h D is what
Speaker 1: it probably is. Yeah, but my a d h D
Speaker 1: medicine doesn't seem to help. It just makes me ready
Speaker 1: to go garden instead. It makes me really ready to
Speaker 1: focus on anything other than the thing I have to do.
Speaker 1: Gardening is vastly better anyway. We've we've drifted from and
Speaker 1: I blame myself. Tokyo. We've drifted. We've Tokyo drifted away
Speaker 1: from the the cube, the cube, the cube. We've we've
Speaker 1: cube stopped gleaning the cube, romancing the cube, romancing the
Speaker 1: square stone, romancing the cube. Once a year, Yeah, once
Speaker 1: a year. In a supervised visit, only one trending on
Speaker 1: Twitter at the fucking cube. Yeah, i'd better be I mean,
Speaker 1: actually one trending. Yeah, we'll talk. I guess we should
Speaker 1: talk about that. Now, go ahead about I know you
Speaker 1: you want to do this only in theory. We talked
Speaker 1: about it last week and again we're a culture show.
Speaker 1: Now we only we talk about movies. Can we talk
Speaker 1: about succession later? Because I'm finally yes, we may? Um?
Speaker 1: Is he? Well, so, I guess my question is is
Speaker 1: Timpole trending because of his additional thread on squid Game
Speaker 1: or is it about his tweets about Dune yesterday. It's
Speaker 1: a good question. Let's both are silly. It's probably both. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Timpoles just a very funny little character. Um, and sometimes
Speaker 1: is he doing a character? Is he? Oh? Here? It is? Okay.
Speaker 1: It's surprising that people who think a show about people
Speaker 1: being forced into equality stand in food lines where they
Speaker 1: are underfed and used as fodder for the elites does
Speaker 1: not represent communism in any way. If squid Game was
Speaker 1: about capitalism, then rich people would start off disadvantage and
Speaker 1: not equal to the other players advantaged. Whatever. The rich
Speaker 1: people aren't aren't playing in the squid Game, are there?
Speaker 1: Here's the thing. Here's the thing, And I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: spoil anything. Um, I don't know who's hurt. Who's watched
Speaker 1: it all, not watched it all. You don't watch I
Speaker 1: have to catch up on Succession. That's fine. I can't
Speaker 1: watch squid Game before I can watch Dude. That's fine.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna spoil anything. Um. The statement if Squid
Speaker 1: Game was about capitalism and rich people would start off
Speaker 1: advantage and not equal to the the other players. First of all,
Speaker 1: Tim finished the show to finish the fucking show. Watched
Speaker 1: to the end of the fucking show. Tim. Second of all,
Speaker 1: they're all in debt. That's the plot to the show.
Speaker 1: They're all in massive debt. So there are that's the
Speaker 1: plot of the show. They're all they're all in massive debt,
Speaker 1: and they're and they have to play the squid Game.
Speaker 1: So so what's your point, Tim? But um, and this
Speaker 1: is not I just some players would have inherited advantages
Speaker 1: toward winning the money. First of all, Tim, they kind
Speaker 1: of do. Second of all, there are games in the
Speaker 1: squid Game that is set up like a race, and
Speaker 1: there are some people in the front that start, and
Speaker 1: there's some people in the back and it's presented as
Speaker 1: being an equal game, even though you can literally look
Speaker 1: and it's not. Physically you can see that it's not
Speaker 1: equal because they're not all starting at the same time.
Speaker 1: It's just very silly. Um and he closes this threat
Speaker 1: out by saying, there are critiques of capitalism if you
Speaker 1: try hard enough. And again, first of all, there's an
Speaker 1: episode I'm I'm trying Katie close your ears. The second episode.
Speaker 1: The second episode spoilers. The second episode they leave the
Speaker 1: squid games. They're like, oh wow, the squid games are dangerous. Well,
Speaker 1: we're all gonna die, so they leave, and then the
Speaker 1: second episode is them going back to the capitalist world.
Speaker 1: They're all in debt, they're all miserable, everyone around them
Speaker 1: is going to die. The episode is called Hell, and
Speaker 1: they go back to the games for the rest of
Speaker 1: the show. Yeah you can, you can, you can put
Speaker 1: your yes, you can put your headphones back on. It's
Speaker 1: just so silly to pretend like, if you try hard enough,
Speaker 1: they're critiques. No, they are very specific critiques of it.
Speaker 1: You can misinterpret it all you want, but you can't
Speaker 1: claim that that. You have to try very hard to
Speaker 1: get to that critique. Even Ben Shapiro today did a
Speaker 1: whole video reviewing squid Game, and he's like, it's about
Speaker 1: how communism is good, and like, I mean kind of
Speaker 1: like not but they specifically attack North Korea in it too. Yeah, no, yes,
Speaker 1: And and also like by critiquing like all the problems
Speaker 1: with capitalism, you're not inherently saying like communism is good,
Speaker 1: Like that's not how it works. Um. So Like even
Speaker 1: then he's it's like not a very good review, but
Speaker 1: he at least says it's a good show. It's politics
Speaker 1: are bad. He gives it a seven out of ten
Speaker 1: for watchability and a one out of ten for politics.
Speaker 1: So like, at the bare minimum, you have to be
Speaker 1: able to recognize what the show is. Um. And it's
Speaker 1: just very silly. It doesn't matter. None of this matters.
Speaker 1: I don't know why I care so much. Um, it's
Speaker 1: just like dislike disingenuous grifters. It's kind of thing. I
Speaker 1: don't know if disingenuous or not, like part of it.
Speaker 1: Just like, do you think is this how you think?
Speaker 1: I think is how you absorb media? He does? I
Speaker 1: think that. I think it's his tribalism. Of here's another
Speaker 1: thing that I can say us versus them, here's another
Speaker 1: way that I can like just argue against you. I
Speaker 1: I do think that this is um purposeful ignorance. I
Speaker 1: don't know, I won I guess so, like because even
Speaker 1: like with Done, he's like, I didn't like it was
Speaker 1: boring and slow, and I fell asleep a bunch and
Speaker 1: didn't even finish it and it's bad, and like, even
Speaker 1: that is so silly to me. First of all, it's
Speaker 1: not a slow movie. I don't understand that critique. It's
Speaker 1: like it's pretty uh engaging the entire time. But it's
Speaker 1: the kind of thing where he can't come up with like, oh,
Speaker 1: it's like it's woke, so I'm gonna talk about it.
Speaker 1: So he has to fall back on like I didn't
Speaker 1: watch it was boring, um, which you totally could because
Speaker 1: it is woke, like from the sixties, like sixties woke ism.
Speaker 1: But like they're very clear themes that he's talking about. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, the overall theme of the of the books
Speaker 1: is that number one, colonialism inherently destroys everything, not just
Speaker 1: the colonized, but the colonizers. That heroes are a trap
Speaker 1: uh and inherently uh. Just the concept is inherently destructive
Speaker 1: and that given enough time, the oppressed will become the oppressors. Uh,
Speaker 1: there's a lot going on in Dune. All of it
Speaker 1: is in fact very woke because Frank Herbert ate his
Speaker 1: body weight in psychedelic mushrooms while wandering the Oregon Dunes
Speaker 1: every month. Uh that's what That's what the other parts
Speaker 1: of the bookers are about, Like, um, big mushrooms fan
Speaker 1: is a huge mushrooms fan, spice um. And it's just yeah,
Speaker 1: it's very silly, like because you could watch that movie
Speaker 1: and go the s j w's got to Dune. We
Speaker 1: would be inaccurate because it's always been Dune. But like
Speaker 1: it's just like if you can't. I've even seen people
Speaker 1: like oh it's boring, Like they cast they cast as
Speaker 1: black woman as his character's not and then like they
Speaker 1: reply back to their uh their threaded like I saw
Speaker 1: it as a really good is faithful and like beautiful
Speaker 1: stuff and she did a great job. Like yeah, you
Speaker 1: just want to get mad, like they the book where
Speaker 1: the first special Boy hero counts how many people he's
Speaker 1: murdered in multiples of Hitler and then kills himself and
Speaker 1: his son becomes a giant worm. Like, it's just I
Speaker 1: haven't participated in much of this because I took my
Speaker 1: headphones off for a while and never quite caught up.
Speaker 1: I think this is a perfect time for some products
Speaker 1: and services in the other things that we've definitely figured
Speaker 1: out already together. Everything area are and we are not
Speaker 1: talking about movies or TV anymore, right or all about
Speaker 1: that time Alec Baldwin killed that lady. Yeah, this is
Speaker 1: we really should have led with this um segment, but
Speaker 1: it's actually so it's awful. It's hard to lead from
Speaker 1: jokes straight into this story. But yeah, the headline is
Speaker 1: that Alec Baldwin accidentally shot and killed their DP. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the the you know that meme where it's like the
Speaker 1: galaxy brains, the brains going bigger, Like the tiniest brain
Speaker 1: version of this is Alec Baldwin killed somebody, and then
Speaker 1: the medium one is actually the armor on set killed somebody,
Speaker 1: and then the biggest galaxy brain is actually Alec Baldwin
Speaker 1: helped to kill somebody because he was the producer on
Speaker 1: a movie that deliberately cut corners leading to this person's death.
Speaker 1: In the series of yeah, there's there's a lot to
Speaker 1: go over here, there's the rights reaction, there's what's happening,
Speaker 1: what happened on set. There is what happened on set
Speaker 1: against the backdrop of the IoTs negotiations. Um, it's a
Speaker 1: lot and it's been hard. You know, I I Cody
Speaker 1: and I both know a lot of people in the
Speaker 1: entertainment industry. You guys do too, You've lived here, but
Speaker 1: this has just really hit everybody pretty hard. So as
Speaker 1: most people probably are aware or maybe aren't of the
Speaker 1: little details. Um. This set was a somewhat low budget set,
Speaker 1: I guess comparatively speaking, but not really, but they mean
Speaker 1: still tons of money. Um, but they were rushing to
Speaker 1: get production done, especially in case IoTs did strike. Uh.
Speaker 1: They're halfway through this shoot. There had been multiple multiple
Speaker 1: instances of gun of safety concerns, three misfires I think
Speaker 1: three missfires with this one gun in the week prior. Um.
Speaker 1: Uh even outside of that, they the crew had been
Speaker 1: promised accommodations near set, but instead, once they arrived, they
Speaker 1: were told that they would be housed fifty miles away.
Speaker 1: So they are driving back and forth fifty miles every
Speaker 1: day to set and schedule and safety concerns and the
Speaker 1: morning of the accident. I don't know have the number
Speaker 1: in front of me, but the majority of the crew,
Speaker 1: camera crew walked off, walked off set UM as well
Speaker 1: as yes, the armorers, the people that the props masters
Speaker 1: had left UM. And so instead of meeting the demands
Speaker 1: of their crew or you know, being responsible, they brought
Speaker 1: in local non union props masters and an armorer. And
Speaker 1: I feel very bad for this young armor and I
Speaker 1: don't feel very bad. I have to see the I
Speaker 1: I'm sure this is a horrifying moment for these people
Speaker 1: that were these non careers and she's young and you know,
Speaker 1: been brought in for this opportunity, and they're being rushed
Speaker 1: as well. Like I, Ultimately, the responsibility does lie with production,
Speaker 1: and it lies with the a D. The a D
Speaker 1: who apparently had been fired from other sets for the
Speaker 1: same thing, like actually on another set of his and
Speaker 1: he has been known as the guy that comes in
Speaker 1: when the real a D leaves, when people leave because
Speaker 1: of it. He's willing to come in and do what
Speaker 1: it takes. And the a D, if you guys don't know,
Speaker 1: is the assistant director. And it's not about directing UM
Speaker 1: the action on camera. It's basically running the set. Your
Speaker 1: a D is the person running the safety. Every a
Speaker 1: D I've worked with is militant about safety, and they
Speaker 1: run the whole cruise. So the buck does stop there.
Speaker 1: But even more than that, the buck stops at the producers,
Speaker 1: I e. Alec Baldwin, who hired this person and made
Speaker 1: that choice. And I'm I am so fucking furious, And yes,
Speaker 1: I feel terrible for him, because my god, you have
Speaker 1: to live with that for the rest of your life.
Speaker 1: But also, yeah, you have to live with this for
Speaker 1: the rest of your life. Yeah, I mean it's it's
Speaker 1: there's so much that went horribly wrong that shouldn't have
Speaker 1: back in our cracked days. I interviewed somebody who was
Speaker 1: like one of the most well known armorers in uh
Speaker 1: in Hollywood. Like he's he's worked with Keanu Reeves, he's
Speaker 1: worked with like Tom Cruise, like he's one of he
Speaker 1: not not just like provides Union armors, but also provides weapons.
Speaker 1: And when you have those people who are like the
Speaker 1: proper iotsy armors, it's been decades since a fatal incident
Speaker 1: with a firearm as a result of like a Union armor.
Speaker 1: Um God, I think like maybe a D sometimes the
Speaker 1: eighties is the last one I remember hearing about. And
Speaker 1: it's because they have all of these different redundancies. Like,
Speaker 1: for one thing, when you're doing a scene like this,
Speaker 1: Number one, the barrel of the of the of the
Speaker 1: functional firearm is never supposed to be pointed at a person.
Speaker 1: Even in scenes when it looks like that's happening, you
Speaker 1: have like the you have it canted to some way,
Speaker 1: especially since like they're pointing at a camera right, which
Speaker 1: is a dangerous set. But number one, you make sure
Speaker 1: the barrel is not pointed directly at a person. That's
Speaker 1: an armorer's job. And number two, even if the barrel
Speaker 1: isn't supposed to be pointed directly at a person, you
Speaker 1: have a sheet of bulletproof plexiglass in between the camera
Speaker 1: and the gun. Um there's a bunch of ships that's
Speaker 1: supposed Like for one thing, the way the transfer of
Speaker 1: the gun was done, the a D just picked it
Speaker 1: up and said cold weapon and handed it to Baldwin.
Speaker 1: Number one, the a D is never, ever, ever, fucking
Speaker 1: ever supposed to put a gun, a functional firearm in
Speaker 1: the hands of an actor. That is the job of
Speaker 1: the armor And when the armorers does it, he is
Speaker 1: supposed to open the cylinder or drop the magazine, whichever
Speaker 1: kind of weapon it is, and show you down the barrel.
Speaker 1: The actor is supposed to look down the barrel and see, Okay,
Speaker 1: there is nothing in this gun. This is not a
Speaker 1: loaded firearm, in order to know that it's a cold weapon.
Speaker 1: Another like, the most fucked up thing about this is
Speaker 1: that it is now coming out so one. For one thing,
Speaker 1: there are some situations in which you might use a
Speaker 1: live round like a functional bullet as opposed to a
Speaker 1: blank UM, and a blank is pretty close to a
Speaker 1: live round, it just doesn't have like a full bullet
Speaker 1: on the end. Um. There are some situations in which
Speaker 1: you would fire a live round from a gun UM
Speaker 1: on a movie set, but you would never keep the
Speaker 1: blanks and the live functional bullets in the same place.
Speaker 1: They were kept in the same place next to each
Speaker 1: other in the case of this. And what's come out
Speaker 1: now is that members of the crew were going out
Speaker 1: and shooting actual ammunition out of these guns off hours
Speaker 1: and that's how Yeah, that's the thing that's coming out.
Speaker 1: And I don't know, it hasn't been hard confirmed, but
Speaker 1: there's been a couple of articles on it. Because the
Speaker 1: live bullet was in the gun. It went through a
Speaker 1: person in another person. That's what's so confused, because people
Speaker 1: say it's a live ammunition, or then it's a blank,
Speaker 1: but it's still live. Here's one thing I need to say, though,
Speaker 1: Go ahead, Robert, clarify one of the things it can't have.
Speaker 1: Because obviously a blank can kill. People have died from blanks.
Speaker 1: It has happened before. A blank can absolutely kill someone,
Speaker 1: but not this bullet killed someone and hit another person,
Speaker 1: went through them. A blank will never do that. A
Speaker 1: blank is not going to pierce another person's body and
Speaker 1: go into a separate person. Yeah, this was an actual
Speaker 1: Here's the thing. The gosh, there's so much there's so
Speaker 1: many things. You do not need to have a firing
Speaker 1: gun on set at all at this point, we don't.
Speaker 1: You don't. There are arguments about like, oh, you want
Speaker 1: that flash, you want this, all of that for the majority,
Speaker 1: And I've been watching all the seeing all these posts
Speaker 1: from cinema pographers. It's almost impossible to capture that on camera.
Speaker 1: They always try, and they almost always do it in
Speaker 1: post anyway. Um, the training, the fact that it actually
Speaker 1: spooks most actors out and it's much easier. They want
Speaker 1: to talk about the noise and the reaction. You can
Speaker 1: bang something together and it gives that jolt to get
Speaker 1: an authentic performance. It's it's it doesn't make sense. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we are any capacity popular movies, the most popular movies
Speaker 1: in the they're all cd I, Marvel movies. So you
Speaker 1: do a fake gun. I hope that that's not the
Speaker 1: only lesson that's learned, though it seems like no, I know.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like I see a lot of like
Speaker 1: just do the special effects special effects, Like, yeah, there
Speaker 1: are other aspects of like the safety of workers on
Speaker 1: these sets that need to like what I already said
Speaker 1: about how they left because of the safety conditions in
Speaker 1: general set. One of my issues people being like we
Speaker 1: should just never have actual guns on set is that, well,
Speaker 1: that's kind of like saying we should destroy the career
Speaker 1: of all of the iatsy armors who never made a
Speaker 1: mistake and who in hundreds of movies were perfectly safe
Speaker 1: because that's what they trained to do. Because a crew
Speaker 1: hired someone who never should have been in armor and
Speaker 1: wasn't with AATSI like, we should destroy this entire career field, um,
Speaker 1: because like which I like, I would say I wouldn't,
Speaker 1: But that's you would still have a need for these
Speaker 1: skilled people. Um, because there's other types of weapons that
Speaker 1: are used on set. We're talking specifically about guns that
Speaker 1: would still need to have a professional handling them, but
Speaker 1: do not need to actively be fired. That's it. Like
Speaker 1: you're not c G eyeing a whole gun in you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like, but like the fact that
Speaker 1: there's firing happening shouldn't be happening, do you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. I mean, that's my perspective. It's been done.
Speaker 1: Like I guess my issue would be like this, The
Speaker 1: issue here isn't that, Uh, The issue here is that
Speaker 1: like things that should never have been done if they
Speaker 1: followed the industry standard, were why somebody died here. Absolutely
Speaker 1: absolutely people are missing the bigger picture point of what
Speaker 1: this is about. Yeah, there's been a bunch of fucking
Speaker 1: Westerns filmed with old timey guns where you don't have
Speaker 1: as many of the options for like sim munitions and
Speaker 1: stuff with these antique guns. And it's fine because they
Speaker 1: don't do the variety the huge variety of things that
Speaker 1: would horribly awry in this I don't know It's one
Speaker 1: of those things where like, um, I just I'm I'm
Speaker 1: comprehensively frustrated at every aspect of this because the thing
Speaker 1: that got people killed was that decades of best practices
Speaker 1: were ignored. Like the people whose jobs are going to
Speaker 1: be eliminated by this switch, which if you, I don't know, fine,
Speaker 1: maybe that's the way it always was going to evolve.
Speaker 1: But the people whose jobs are going to be eliminated
Speaker 1: are the people who spent years developing a series of
Speaker 1: best practices to make this not possible when they are involved,
Speaker 1: And I I do agree with both of you guys
Speaker 1: about this, and I agree completely that the energy in
Speaker 1: the outrage is being misspent and again we're missing the
Speaker 1: actual point of Again again again this is said against
Speaker 1: the backdrop of the Ions negotiations, which is all about
Speaker 1: this exact thing. I would want to look into, um
Speaker 1: what removing firing web firing gun. I think it's certainly
Speaker 1: what actually mean, but I mean, I mean, I would
Speaker 1: like to look into what that would mean, um in
Speaker 1: terms of armorers and how that affects their jobs, because
Speaker 1: my gut would be that there is still other jobs,
Speaker 1: like they would still have a job, you know, it's
Speaker 1: just changing slightly. However, if I'm wrong, I might I mean,
Speaker 1: I could be wrong, you know. Um to me, the
Speaker 1: that's but yeah, I agree with you guys. Um. Should
Speaker 1: we also talk about how the right is reacting to this?
Speaker 1: Oh God, how's the rights and guns? Guns don't kill people.
Speaker 1: Alec Baldwin with a gun kills people. Yeah, that's okay, gross,
Speaker 1: but also yeah, but you're missing again, missing the point.
Speaker 1: You're not understanding the way. It's not the fact that
Speaker 1: he held the gun. It's the choices he made. It's
Speaker 1: the union busting that kills people. It's it's removing the
Speaker 1: trained professionals who actually know how to function with the
Speaker 1: And you could even like they're like the actual fucking
Speaker 1: if you wanted to take an actual right wing tact
Speaker 1: on this, that wasn't like completely batshit stupid and wrong.
Speaker 1: It could be like, well, this is partly what happens
Speaker 1: when you have a bunch of people who rail against
Speaker 1: firearms but don't functionally understand them. Because if Alec Baldwin
Speaker 1: um had any understanding of guns, he would have known
Speaker 1: instinctively number one, you always check to make sure the
Speaker 1: gun is loaded. And number two, even if you know
Speaker 1: what's unloaded, you treat it like a loaded gun, which
Speaker 1: means not pointing the barrel at a human being. That's
Speaker 1: the actual like if you're if you want to take
Speaker 1: the reasonable gun culture approach, it's that if he had
Speaker 1: been raised with firearms and understood them in any kind
Speaker 1: of functional capacity, this also wouldn't have happened because you
Speaker 1: don't point a gun at a person and pull the trigger,
Speaker 1: because there's no such thing as an unloaded gun. Like that,
Speaker 1: that that's the actual reasonable thing you could take about
Speaker 1: it as as opposed to what they're what they're doing, well,
Speaker 1: yeah he's the Trump he's the Trump impression guy. So yeah,
Speaker 1: they're just trying to get their little dunks in. Yeah,
Speaker 1: every everything about this is just comprehensively heartbreaking, especially since
Speaker 1: this is like everything turning into a goddamn culture war issue.
Speaker 1: While a woman who had two children is dead and
Speaker 1: they're not going to get to see their mom anymore,
Speaker 1: and she's not going to get to live the remainder
Speaker 1: of her what probably would have been a long life
Speaker 1: for for what amounts to a stupid cost cutting decision
Speaker 1: and a series of careless actions. Bio completely a whole
Speaker 1: lot of people, A tremendous number of people had to
Speaker 1: be careless for this to happen. Um, it's just it sucks,
Speaker 1: really bad. I just now started to feel bad, you know.
Speaker 1: Um No, I didn't just now start to feel bad,
Speaker 1: but thinking about her camera crew who walked off that day,
Speaker 1: and she'd been really torn because she'd been advocating and
Speaker 1: fighting for them and really fighting for the safety conditions
Speaker 1: on set. But it was she was the deep p
Speaker 1: you know, cinematographer and this was her first DP, like
Speaker 1: so she needed to stick around and see this project through.
Speaker 1: But she was in a bad And so then I
Speaker 1: just thought about all the people that left and how
Speaker 1: they must feel that the day they walk out this happened.
Speaker 1: And not that this is in any way their fault.
Speaker 1: They're doing the thing they need to do, you know,
Speaker 1: they were in fact trying to stop this from happen,
Speaker 1: stop this from happening. Yeah, it's everything is terrible. And
Speaker 1: also everything about this is terrible. Yeah, and I don't
Speaker 1: and again and it's so just like everything literally everything,
Speaker 1: the government, climate change, COVID, all of it. You see
Speaker 1: the writing on the wall as to what the problems are,
Speaker 1: and you also see how the people in charge spin
Speaker 1: it or take the wrong point, purposefully obfuskating things so
Speaker 1: that they can continue on, continue on, and things don't change.
Speaker 1: Like will this change the negotiations? I don't know. Will
Speaker 1: this affect anything in the long run? I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean in terms of the actual set conditions that
Speaker 1: need to be fixed. Um, does that make sense? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm rambling. All right, let's take an ad break, right,
Speaker 1: breather everything, So don't don't yeah, baby, yeah, suck on that.
Speaker 1: I don't know why I told people to suck on that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean they can. That was weird, right,
Speaker 1: I shouldn't cut it out? No, no, no, no, keep
Speaker 1: it in. Um, not necessary contact weird just like maybe
Speaker 1: not necessary, maybe unnecessary, a little aggressive, not necessarily necessary,
Speaker 1: not necessarily Now what you guys got what you want
Speaker 1: to talk about? Um? I don't know. Uh. Facebook killing everyone?
Speaker 1: The website? Yeah, the website, the website that is committed
Speaker 1: to destroying the world. Um, that one. Is it because
Speaker 1: they want to or because they have to? Because it's
Speaker 1: because destroying the world increases engagement on their platform? Okay,
Speaker 1: so this does and that's the only way they make money.
Speaker 1: Now Yeah, so the world has to go because they're
Speaker 1: pivoting to kids. Yeah, they are interested. Kids are interested
Speaker 1: in perhaps fire bombing the Facebook offices. Um, which where
Speaker 1: that to happen? I don't encourage it, but where that
Speaker 1: to happen? These days? I think it would be funny.
Speaker 1: Um where that to happen? Um? Yeah? I like, what
Speaker 1: how are we doing on that? Is that incitement to
Speaker 1: that cross the line? Where are we ignoring? You? What
Speaker 1: what just just said? Are we bleeping that entire thing?
Speaker 1: Or are we believing that? Did that go too far?
Speaker 1: All I'm gonna say is if things were just Mark
Speaker 1: Zuckerberg would be taken into custody by an international group
Speaker 1: of shall we say, a vengeance squad. He would be
Speaker 1: tried in the Hague right where right where um you
Speaker 1: know Herman Garring was tried, uh, And then he would
Speaker 1: be hung where Herman Garring would have been hung if
Speaker 1: Garring hadn't snuck opiates into an an overdosed in order
Speaker 1: to avoid um. Anyway, Mark Zuckerberg should be legally executed
Speaker 1: by the international community is what I think actually, along
Speaker 1: with Cheryl Sandberg and most of the most of the
Speaker 1: people who have been running Facebook for the last decade
Speaker 1: or yeah, sure, give him a bunch of opiates. Yeah, whatever,
Speaker 1: I don't care how it goes. One of the fun facts.
Speaker 1: So basically, a bunch of shipload of stuff came out
Speaker 1: recently about Facebook, perhaps too much, all at once. I
Speaker 1: want to throw that out. All the kind of stuff
Speaker 1: came out on on Monday, all this stuff, I mean,
Speaker 1: and it's so much to sift through that it's almost
Speaker 1: like people aren't touching it, you know. Anyway, go ahead, Roberts.
Speaker 1: A lot of journalists are going, but it's going to
Speaker 1: be like the general public. Yeah, there's so much. UM.
Speaker 1: One of the things that came out that's most immediately
Speaker 1: relevant is that in April of two thou and twenty UM,
Speaker 1: like the early days of the pandemic, Facebook internal Facebook
Speaker 1: employees started looking at the spread of coronavirus related misinformation
Speaker 1: UM and they found out that if they if they
Speaker 1: limited serial resharers because serial resharers, people who reshare a
Speaker 1: lot of content, tended to be resharing mostly misinformation. So
Speaker 1: Facebook internal employees were like, hey, what if we uh
Speaker 1: limited people from boosting content UM that like our news
Speaker 1: feed predicts kind of falls into this category because that
Speaker 1: stuff tends to be misinformation, and their early tests showed
Speaker 1: that if they had done this, it would reduce the
Speaker 1: sharing of coronavirus misinformation by thirty eight percent, and Mark
Speaker 1: Zuckerberg said no. Um. The exact quote was from Anna Stepanov,
Speaker 1: who's director UM, who's a director at Facebook, who was
Speaker 1: supposed to who was like speaking for Zuckerberg. She said,
Speaker 1: Mark doesn't think we could go abroad. We wouldn't launch
Speaker 1: if there was a material trade off with m s I,
Speaker 1: which is like there um uh engagement statistic, so that
Speaker 1: that's like one of a billion different examples. But like
Speaker 1: they knew that, oh hey we could do this one
Speaker 1: thing that would reduce coronavirus misinformation by but it's going
Speaker 1: to reduce our profitability, so we will not take that step. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's the it's like with Twitter, how they're like, yeah,
Speaker 1: we could get rid of some Nazis, but it also
Speaker 1: get rid of some Republican politicians, so we can't. But
Speaker 1: at least Twitter put like caveats, you know, or Twitter
Speaker 1: also does like if you're going to retweet and you
Speaker 1: haven't clicked the link, if you're just knee jerk resharing,
Speaker 1: they say you haven't read the article yet, could you
Speaker 1: do that? That's another thing that what's the something whistleblower's
Speaker 1: name Dayana Facebook? She mentioned that specifically, like like that's
Speaker 1: been talked about. Um, yeah, so much going through you
Speaker 1: pointed out, Um a few things that feel true to
Speaker 1: me and are true. So much of this, I mean,
Speaker 1: not just COVID, but just the disinformation in general is
Speaker 1: because Facebook, in their quote unquote attempt to seem like nonpartisan.
Speaker 1: They've actively been I mean Mark Zuckerberg has actively been
Speaker 1: taking meetings, you know, with different members of the Republican Party.
Speaker 1: He routinely courts them, and you know, it's all part
Speaker 1: of this. It's all part of that positioning and their
Speaker 1: choices that they make. But yes, money is that the
Speaker 1: thing is the be all end all here and that's
Speaker 1: where they make their money because I know they're focusing
Speaker 1: on they're gonna you know, Facebook for kids, but the
Speaker 1: youths don't go on Facebook. It's for the olds get
Speaker 1: grabbed with racist ship that they can reach is like there, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: we're retooling to with the quote that he said, retooling
Speaker 1: to make serving young adults the north star rather than
Speaker 1: optimizing for older people and like, so you're just gonna
Speaker 1: like poison kids more instead of poison adults. Like that's
Speaker 1: the goal, right, Like we already know that, Like Instagram
Speaker 1: is destroying like young girls and uh like all all
Speaker 1: the things that like these apps are doing by their
Speaker 1: albums them and feeding. It's like if you're so, if
Speaker 1: you're optimizing for young people instead of older people, then
Speaker 1: you're just getting them earlier. You're fucking them up earlier
Speaker 1: instead of doing it to boomers. So maybe that's not good.
Speaker 1: I mean, all of it's not good. Also, it's not
Speaker 1: even about um banning topics or removing the topics from Facebook.
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean that's all, but it's also from
Speaker 1: their yes, actively promoting those things, and they know that
Speaker 1: it increases their bottom line. They know, I will go
Speaker 1: even further, Katie, they are actively promoting toxic, untrue, and
Speaker 1: violent content because doing so damages the brains of their
Speaker 1: users in a way that keeps those users on and
Speaker 1: engaged to the website. And so damaging the brains of
Speaker 1: their users permanently is profitable to Facebook. So they made
Speaker 1: a a distinct, uh documented choice to cause brain damage
Speaker 1: to millions of people in order to abuse their profitability.
Speaker 1: We're talking about it through the lens of how this
Speaker 1: affects us here in America, but also to be unpacked
Speaker 1: and sifted through with all of this is internationally. The
Speaker 1: influence in other countries is even ethnic cleansings in India
Speaker 1: and myan mark just as a start, uh in Ethiopia,
Speaker 1: um in in Egypt. H Yeah, pro government propaganda another place,
Speaker 1: you know, like anyway, it's truly the destruction of the world. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's a really good Ryan Brodrick article on his sub stack.
Speaker 1: I think, well, is this a substack or not? And
Speaker 1: his blood garbage day um. Yeah. And and Broderick is
Speaker 1: someone who's kind of reported in some of the same
Speaker 1: like we we're both some of the only like English
Speaker 1: language writers have written about fucking degola chan, which was
Speaker 1: like Brazil's eight chan kind of equivalent. It's like a
Speaker 1: mass shooter fan site. He wrote like a short little
Speaker 1: thing about the Facebook papers, um, which you can also find,
Speaker 1: by the way, if you're interested in kind of learning
Speaker 1: how to start looking into the Facebook papers protocol you
Speaker 1: go to protocol. If you just type protocol Facebook Papers
Speaker 1: into Google, it'll bring you to protocols. They've got like
Speaker 1: an aggregation thing that's aggregating all of the articles so
Speaker 1: far written about the Facebook papers. It makes it easy
Speaker 1: to kind of see what's actually happening here. Um. But
Speaker 1: Ryan Broderick wrote a short little article about this that
Speaker 1: I think gets at how everyone who's been I've been
Speaker 1: reporting around the edge of this issue, like a bunch
Speaker 1: of people like Ben Collins, like Brandy's a Drawsney, like
Speaker 1: like there's about a million of us. Well, there's at
Speaker 1: least a few dozen of us who have been like
Speaker 1: writing around the edges of these stories and trying to
Speaker 1: like prod at this stuff for a while. And Broderick
Speaker 1: gets that, I think how we're all feeling and about
Speaker 1: how everyone should feel about this, about the Facebook papers
Speaker 1: leak quote. I'll be honest, I'm not sure what to
Speaker 1: do with all this. I'm not sure what more we
Speaker 1: need to know before something is done, nor am I
Speaker 1: even sure anything can be done now after almost a
Speaker 1: decade of writing about it and talking about it, I
Speaker 1: honestly feel number the whole thing. It's why I don't
Speaker 1: write a lot about Facebook and garbage day. There are
Speaker 1: simply other parts of the Internet that need attention. Just
Speaker 1: think about how different things would be if an entire
Speaker 1: generation of reporters and technologists weren't forced to be unpaid
Speaker 1: janitors for a bloated tech monopoly. My hope is that
Speaker 1: the sheer scale of these leaks isn't too much for
Speaker 1: the average reader or Paul Petician to wrap their heads around.
Speaker 1: But they haven't affected the company's stock price. But this
Speaker 1: much is clear. Facebook knew all along. Their own employees
Speaker 1: were desperately trying to get anyone inside the company to
Speaker 1: listen as their products radicalized their own friends and family members,
Speaker 1: and as they were breaking the world. They had an
Speaker 1: army of spokespeople publicly and privately gas lighting and intimidating
Speaker 1: reporters and researchers who were trying to ring the alarm bell.
Speaker 1: They knew all along, and they simply did not give
Speaker 1: a ship. Yeah I don't know. Um yeah, they still don't. Uh.
Speaker 1: Zuck said, Yeah, what we're seeing is a coordinated efforts
Speaker 1: selectively use leaked documents to paint a false picture of
Speaker 1: our company. Um did the are the documents false? Yeah? Mark?
Speaker 1: Is everything in here saying such blatant pr bullshit corporate spin?
Speaker 1: And I could say that with confidence because I'm almost
Speaker 1: caught up on succession good good again, and I understand
Speaker 1: how this works, you know, I'm seeing it happen anyway, Katie,
Speaker 1: love that for you, Thank you. I had to contribute something.
Speaker 1: I've talked plenty of this episode. I've talked, I've had
Speaker 1: thoughts that we want to end the episode. We're talking
Speaker 1: about the written house thing or now yeah, just sucks
Speaker 1: as the um Yeah, the judge is um saying that
Speaker 1: they can't refer to as victims as victims, terrorists, terrorists, arsonists.
Speaker 1: I thought that Republicans hated activist judges. Yeah, it's it's
Speaker 1: fun because the argument, which isn't a completely fallacious argument,
Speaker 1: is that, Okay, if you call them victims, then you
Speaker 1: are convicting someone while they're in trial on trial, which okay,
Speaker 1: but then you're if you can call them arsonists, which
Speaker 1: none of them are convicted of arson, none of these
Speaker 1: the people he killed or convicted arson, then you are
Speaker 1: convicting someone else. Even yes, if you were just saying
Speaker 1: the people that he shot, and if that was the
Speaker 1: only way you allowed anyone to refer to them, I
Speaker 1: think that would be fine. That's that's at least yes, No,
Speaker 1: one's arguing that he shot these people. That's accurate, and
Speaker 1: you're not You're not convicting anyone by saying the people
Speaker 1: that he shot because he objectively shot them. Um. I would,
Speaker 1: I would. I would say, Okay, well that's someone being fair.
Speaker 1: But this is obviously like clearly not that this is
Speaker 1: clearly an activist to call them terrorists instead like the
Speaker 1: it's like the opposite of what he's trying to avoid
Speaker 1: and also even more intense. Yeah, I'd like to read
Speaker 1: this tweet from Ben she In, the Kenosha County judge
Speaker 1: in the Kyle Rittenhouse case. Bruce Schroeder has been serving
Speaker 1: since nine four. He keeps getting re elected to six
Speaker 1: year terms, running unopposed. He's one of those six hundred
Speaker 1: judge elections on your ballot where you're like, who is this?
Speaker 1: Does this matter? It does? Um? Yeah, I think that's
Speaker 1: a very good point and little reminder this man has
Speaker 1: been has run, he's been serving since four and his
Speaker 1: rant unopposed. Yeah, I know, it's great. Yeah, that said,
Speaker 1: often the choices between one judge and another judge, both
Speaker 1: of whom are the kind of people who want to
Speaker 1: be judges. Yeah, And how can you know, it's just
Speaker 1: how can you know? I don't know. I would like
Speaker 1: to see Mark Zuckerberg, Cheryl Sandberg and most of the
Speaker 1: Facebook executives from the last decade or so arrested by
Speaker 1: an international um tribunal and uh and and executed in
Speaker 1: the eg. I think that would be rad I think
Speaker 1: that would be judging the verdict, but the trial. You know,
Speaker 1: we will get all of the kids on board with
Speaker 1: your company. If you were hung in the Hague, the
Speaker 1: kids think that's pot they think that's one d gecks
Speaker 1: of cool. Yeah, yeah, the Mark real chugy, Yeah, very chuggy.
Speaker 1: If you were to not be hung in the Hague,
Speaker 1: I think we did it. That is that? Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: that's the episode. That's how we're ending this ship. Oh good,
Speaker 1: I love based. Yeah, baste ending. I'm like desperately trying
Speaker 1: to think of some slang to throw at you, but
Speaker 1: I mean I think it. You know, there is another
Speaker 1: thing that's just happened recently on the TikTok's that's pretty funny. Um.
Speaker 1: The random fucking targeting matrix that is TikTok memes has
Speaker 1: landed on the Mountain Goats song No Children, which if
Speaker 1: you've ever been in a divorce that nearly killed both parties?
Speaker 1: Is a pretty good song about a divorce that nearly
Speaker 1: kills both people involved. UM, and now the kids are
Speaker 1: into it. Yeah, they've landed on an incredibly dark anthem
Speaker 1: about being like a divorce that cripples you emotionally for
Speaker 1: the rest of your life American metaphor for kids. That's cool.
Speaker 1: Listen to the rest of their catalogs, really good music,
Speaker 1: yeah stuff. Yeah, The Mountain Goats have a lot of bangers.
Speaker 1: Not just about one song that's fine, but just like expands,
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, go for the rest of the Goats.
Speaker 1: They got a song about D and D in there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: great bard. Yeah, TikTok's doing that and also like making
Speaker 1: young girls to like think that they have to rest. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's lots of stuff that's less good, but I do
Speaker 1: like that. When someone went to I think it was
Speaker 1: Vice went to the Mountain Goats, you know, the main
Speaker 1: guy who was at some point it's been the only
Speaker 1: guy in the Mountain Goats. UM went to him for comment.
Speaker 1: He was like, yeah, I'm not getting on TikTok, absolutely not.
Speaker 1: I'm doing I'm taking no actions as a like all
Speaker 1: these their song goes viral on TikTok and they suddenly
Speaker 1: like fucking um Fleetwood Mac gets a TikTok and he's
Speaker 1: just like, no, I am I'm doing that. I am
Speaker 1: fifty four goddamn years old. I'm not getting on TikTok now.
Speaker 1: I'm just going to continue doing the thing that Yeah, alright, guys,
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