WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Split Decision? 0:00:05.000 --> 0:00:07.520 The following Here's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:07.560 --> 0:00:19.279 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Let's go. Are you 0:00:19.320 --> 0:00:23.440 ready for a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely? 0:00:23.560 --> 0:00:27.760 Ready for a break? Yeah? And so much for that. 0:00:28.000 --> 0:00:33.120 It's time for the Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:33.920 --> 0:00:39.440 with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. 0:00:40.200 --> 0:00:43.760 It is Friday, December eleventh, twenty twenty, Season sixteen, episode 0:00:43.840 --> 0:00:45.960 number seventy eight. Welcome to the latest edition of The 0:00:46.000 --> 0:00:48.400 Break Clock from the s WBC Mortgage Studios at the 0:00:48.440 --> 0:00:52.800 Star U Cowboys Break presented by Geico, and We've got 0:00:52.800 --> 0:00:54.280 a lot to talk about today. We're gonna get you 0:00:54.320 --> 0:00:57.640 guys ready for Cowboys Versus Bingles. That happens this Sunday. 0:00:57.680 --> 0:01:01.480 It is a noon kickoff and it'll be an interesting 0:01:01.640 --> 0:01:04.720 It'll be an interesting game for the Cowboys, just to 0:01:04.720 --> 0:01:06.759 see how they respond to this. And we'll talk about 0:01:06.800 --> 0:01:08.720 it a little later in the show. Going from a 0:01:08.720 --> 0:01:11.319 Tuesday night road game to a Sunday noon road game, 0:01:11.440 --> 0:01:13.280 it's really a short turnaround. We'll talk about that a 0:01:13.280 --> 0:01:15.000 little bit later in the show. But we got to 0:01:15.000 --> 0:01:16.760 start first with some injuries. We got a lot of 0:01:16.800 --> 0:01:19.560 stuff to talk about in injuries. Let's start first with 0:01:19.600 --> 0:01:23.720 the secondary. What do we know at this point about 0:01:23.760 --> 0:01:27.360 Anthony Brown and Donovan Wilson, two guys that have been 0:01:27.400 --> 0:01:30.080 on the injury report. We've been kind of monitoring them 0:01:30.080 --> 0:01:32.600 this week. What do we know at this point about 0:01:32.640 --> 0:01:37.440 maybe their status going into Sunday's game. Dave that it 0:01:37.520 --> 0:01:41.000 doesn't seem great, particularly with Donovan Wilson. You know, he 0:01:41.040 --> 0:01:45.080 hasn't practiced. Mike McCarthy said, if he does anything today, 0:01:45.120 --> 0:01:47.040 it's probably not going to be a whole lot. You 0:01:47.040 --> 0:01:50.280 think about the fact that this is a very abbreviated week, 0:01:50.400 --> 0:01:53.360 you know, Mike even he mentioned like this is it's 0:01:53.400 --> 0:01:56.960 an unprecedented short week because you just don't see very 0:01:56.960 --> 0:02:00.280 many Tuesday games with Sunday period and then with a 0:02:00.320 --> 0:02:03.680 Sunday turnaround. So it just doesn't seem overly optimistic that 0:02:03.720 --> 0:02:07.000 those two guys are going to be available, particularly Donovan. 0:02:07.120 --> 0:02:10.040 We'll see with Anthony Brown, but I would I just 0:02:10.160 --> 0:02:13.040 probably lean know on both of them at this point. Yesterday, 0:02:13.040 --> 0:02:17.520 the Cowboys add Cheetobewoozier to their reserve COVID list. What 0:02:17.600 --> 0:02:20.240 do we know about that? Because when you when you 0:02:20.280 --> 0:02:22.600 first at when we was first added, my first thought was, 0:02:23.240 --> 0:02:26.120 if you were a person that was just maybe exposed, 0:02:26.120 --> 0:02:29.560 that's five days. If you actually have COVID that's longer. 0:02:29.919 --> 0:02:31.880 So it didn't seem like it was a possibility. But 0:02:31.919 --> 0:02:35.200 Mike McCarthy seemed a little noncommittal on what the status was. 0:02:35.240 --> 0:02:37.040 What did you guys and what do you guys know 0:02:37.120 --> 0:02:39.800 at this point about what's gonna happen with this little 0:02:39.880 --> 0:02:44.320 non committal about the count, about the COVID nineteen stuff. Yeah, yeah, 0:02:44.400 --> 0:02:48.040 that's what the Cowboys have been this year. Yeah, I 0:02:48.080 --> 0:02:51.200 can give you the cowboys official statement on Cheeto? What 0:02:51.400 --> 0:02:55.320 is it? Quiet? That was? That was what they said 0:02:55.320 --> 0:03:00.600 about Cheeto yesterday. Um, it's frustrating because there's different levels 0:03:00.600 --> 0:03:02.799 of this, you know what I mean. If somebody were 0:03:02.840 --> 0:03:05.000 to say, hey, so and so's in the hospital, you 0:03:05.000 --> 0:03:07.960 your next question is for what I mean? And you 0:03:07.960 --> 0:03:09.760 don't know, you don't know if this is this is 0:03:09.840 --> 0:03:11.639 gonna be a couple of days. I mean, so I 0:03:11.800 --> 0:03:16.679 again and maybe Jerry Stephen McCarthy everybody talks today, having 0:03:16.760 --> 0:03:18.079 got a chance to listen to all that, I don't 0:03:18.360 --> 0:03:20.840 has anybody said, why did Jarry I don't think Jerry 0:03:20.840 --> 0:03:25.240 said that what Cheeto's status is on that So he's 0:03:25.240 --> 0:03:27.359 not playing this game, but you know, does he come 0:03:27.400 --> 0:03:30.200 back next week? I don't know. I mean that that's 0:03:30.280 --> 0:03:32.320 this is the frustrating part of it, is your top 0:03:32.360 --> 0:03:35.280 cornerback is out and you don't really know the status 0:03:35.280 --> 0:03:40.040 of for how long. Yeah, I'm not trying to throw 0:03:40.120 --> 0:03:42.680 shade on Yeah, I'm not trying to throw shade on 0:03:42.720 --> 0:03:44.960 any of my fellow reporters because I guess, you know, 0:03:45.080 --> 0:03:46.920 I could have asked the question too, but I was 0:03:47.320 --> 0:03:50.160 a little surprised. You know, Mike's press conference went for 0:03:50.320 --> 0:03:53.520 fifteen or twenty minutes and nobody asked about Cheeto until 0:03:53.560 --> 0:03:56.280 we were like seven or eight minutes in. I was like, 0:03:57.040 --> 0:03:59.960 that's not the leading topic. That arguably the best cornerback 0:04:00.080 --> 0:04:02.080 on the team is out on the COVID list, And yeah, 0:04:02.080 --> 0:04:06.000 and you know, the Cowboys might not be the worst 0:04:06.040 --> 0:04:08.640 team when it comes to communicating what's going on with 0:04:08.680 --> 0:04:12.360 COVID related stuff, but they definitely don't enjoy getting out 0:04:12.360 --> 0:04:15.760 in front of it, that's for sure. So you're just 0:04:15.920 --> 0:04:18.400 left to kind of piece together the details for yourself. 0:04:18.520 --> 0:04:21.520 So he's not going to be available Sunday, So have 0:04:21.600 --> 0:04:24.320 fun with that considering that Anthony Brown is also hurt. 0:04:25.839 --> 0:04:28.400 Other than that, it's hard to really say, so walk 0:04:28.480 --> 0:04:31.160 me through what happens at this point from the standpoint 0:04:31.160 --> 0:04:34.480 of on field. If you don't have Cheeto and you 0:04:34.520 --> 0:04:38.080 don't have Digs and sounds like there's a good possibility 0:04:38.080 --> 0:04:40.680 you might not have Brown, Like, who's left? What do 0:04:40.720 --> 0:04:43.360 you have that you can roll out there? Especially thinking 0:04:43.400 --> 0:04:45.200 about the fact that they run a lot of nickel. 0:04:45.279 --> 0:04:49.960 What do they do at this point? You know, I'm 0:04:50.000 --> 0:04:53.920 a little confused on the whole Anthony Anthony Brown situation 0:04:54.080 --> 0:04:57.000 because I feel like usually we have a better idea 0:04:57.480 --> 0:05:01.080 as far as timeline and when guys are supposed to 0:05:01.080 --> 0:05:04.120 come back. But I feel like Anthony Brown, we've been 0:05:04.200 --> 0:05:06.640 expected him to come back for like three weeks now 0:05:06.800 --> 0:05:09.240 or so. It's like every week we think he might 0:05:09.360 --> 0:05:11.560 play in this game, and that he doesn't, and then 0:05:11.560 --> 0:05:14.400 he goes back into another week. And I know that 0:05:14.400 --> 0:05:17.520 that again, Mike McCarthy, he doesn't like talking very much 0:05:17.600 --> 0:05:20.920 about like really getting into details as far as injuries 0:05:20.960 --> 0:05:24.719 and all that. But do you guys, And I guess Nick, 0:05:24.920 --> 0:05:27.400 maybe you because you're closer to the team. Have you 0:05:27.520 --> 0:05:30.839 heard anything else as far as what's really going on 0:05:30.920 --> 0:05:36.080 with his situation? No, I really haven't, because it's not 0:05:36.160 --> 0:05:40.040 like it's impossible to have the same injury, you know, 0:05:40.640 --> 0:05:43.880 later on. I mean, Frank Romo had two broken collar 0:05:43.920 --> 0:05:45.840 bones in one year. I mean, it happened, and they 0:05:45.960 --> 0:05:49.279 probably related. So I would just imagine that this rib 0:05:49.320 --> 0:05:52.479 injury is related to the one he had earlier, or 0:05:52.640 --> 0:05:55.400 you know, maybe not you know, quite yield all the 0:05:55.440 --> 0:05:58.120 way whatever. So but no, I don't know. I don't 0:05:58.120 --> 0:06:01.160 know specifically if he's going to practice or nine. I mean, 0:06:01.160 --> 0:06:04.200 I know it's that doesn't seem like an injury that 0:06:04.200 --> 0:06:06.760 would be easy to run, you know, it wouldn't be 0:06:06.760 --> 0:06:10.080 easy to breathe, breath and all that kind of stuff. Um, 0:06:10.160 --> 0:06:13.200 this has just been this has just been twenty twenty 0:06:13.240 --> 0:06:16.359 in a nutshell. It's just it's not one injury to 0:06:16.440 --> 0:06:19.680 the position. It's two or three or four. And you know, 0:06:19.800 --> 0:06:25.640 I offensive tackle, cornerback, and quarterback. It's just been one 0:06:25.680 --> 0:06:28.240 thing after another for that and and this is the 0:06:28.279 --> 0:06:31.440 worst year to have it happen because you can't go 0:06:31.560 --> 0:06:34.719 get players like you normally would, and the pool of 0:06:34.720 --> 0:06:37.839 players is a lot less than it is normally, and 0:06:38.000 --> 0:06:40.159 you just can't go get them. And so it's just 0:06:40.320 --> 0:06:42.520 it's really been tough. You're getting these guys off the 0:06:42.520 --> 0:06:45.360 practice squad that are playing in NFL games that if 0:06:45.400 --> 0:06:48.839 it wasn't for this situation, they would not be in 0:06:48.880 --> 0:06:52.160 the NFL, they'd be in the XFL probably, and then 0:06:52.320 --> 0:06:54.000 and they're having to play for you in a game 0:06:54.040 --> 0:06:56.400 that matters. So, Dave, what do they do right now 0:06:56.600 --> 0:07:00.480 with these three guys potentially out what do they bodies? 0:07:00.560 --> 0:07:02.760 Just give me bodies names that you can actually throw 0:07:02.760 --> 0:07:04.680 out there to play this game. That's what they have 0:07:04.720 --> 0:07:07.919 as bodies. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like, have you 0:07:08.000 --> 0:07:11.760 ever I'm sure you've seen it. Have you seen Jurassic 0:07:11.800 --> 0:07:13.800 Park or do you have a good remember remember a 0:07:13.920 --> 0:07:16.920 memory of Jurassic Park. No, I've never seen anything. I've 0:07:16.960 --> 0:07:22.160 never seen them. No real Now, all right, well you're ruined. 0:07:22.200 --> 0:07:29.760 You ruined my jokes. People. Hey, Jurassic Park came out 0:07:29.800 --> 0:07:32.520 in like nineteen ninety three, so I ain't trying to 0:07:32.560 --> 0:07:34.720 hear that. I ain't busy in college. I didn't have 0:07:34.760 --> 0:07:36.760 time to see you. I worked at a movie and 0:07:37.200 --> 0:07:39.240 I was too cool to see the biggest movie in 0:07:39.280 --> 0:07:42.040 the world. Dave, go ahead and make your analogy, because 0:07:42.120 --> 0:07:45.320 most people will probably not get it. It's not an analogy. 0:07:45.520 --> 0:07:48.320 Everybody's got four or five movies that they should see 0:07:48.560 --> 0:07:54.000 they haven't. Who chuses one for me? Godfather? Brave Heart? No, 0:07:54.080 --> 0:07:57.160 I haven't I seen Brave part takes six hours. No thanks? 0:07:57.800 --> 0:07:59.400 You think I could get through Brave Heart? I can't 0:07:59.400 --> 0:08:01.520 get through this show a right messing up? Good boy? Point, 0:08:01.640 --> 0:08:05.600 good boy, Dave, finish your point. I didn't. I didn't 0:08:05.640 --> 0:08:08.480 mean to turn this into a movie podcast. But there's 0:08:08.480 --> 0:08:11.440 a part in Jurassic Park where Samuel L. Jackson says, 0:08:11.480 --> 0:08:13.680 hold onto your butts. And that's what I think about 0:08:13.800 --> 0:08:16.280 when I think about what they're gonna have to play 0:08:16.280 --> 0:08:20.600 at cornerback. Um, I mean, y'all are the ones that 0:08:20.640 --> 0:08:23.160 took it off the rails. Certainly y'all are the ones 0:08:23.200 --> 0:08:24.920 that took it off the rails. If y'all had just 0:08:25.000 --> 0:08:28.160 seen one of the biggest movies ever day, what do 0:08:28.200 --> 0:08:29.960 you think about? What do they need to do at 0:08:29.960 --> 0:08:37.600 the cornerback position? What would you do that's good? I mean, 0:08:37.640 --> 0:08:41.360 you got you got Deonta, you got Deontay Burton, you 0:08:41.440 --> 0:08:45.160 got you obviously got Jordan Lewis, you got Richard Robinson, 0:08:45.280 --> 0:08:48.520 go Tigers, and uh, and then you could probably sign 0:08:48.640 --> 0:08:52.560 Savean Smith back to the active roster, although I feel 0:08:52.559 --> 0:08:54.760 like he's done that so many times at this point 0:08:54.760 --> 0:08:56.400 in the season that you would that would probably have 0:08:56.440 --> 0:08:58.640 to be a permanent change, Like I don't. I don't 0:08:58.640 --> 0:09:00.840 think they can elevate him and move him back anymore. 0:09:01.040 --> 0:09:07.080 So it's sorry, but my next question is about that 0:09:07.120 --> 0:09:09.720 I would do a permanent move because I'd ask you this. 0:09:09.880 --> 0:09:12.040 I'll just be the host for a second. S it's 0:09:12.120 --> 0:09:15.120 Cheetauzia going to play another game for the Dallas Cowboys. 0:09:16.960 --> 0:09:20.559 Why not? I would, yes, So it's I think it's 0:09:20.559 --> 0:09:23.439 a fair question. You do, Okay, your answer is yes. 0:09:23.520 --> 0:09:27.560 I think it's a fair question too, because well, we 0:09:27.760 --> 0:09:30.640 I mean, how yeah, I don't know. How can you 0:09:30.679 --> 0:09:33.880 answer that? Like we don't know the severity of his situation? 0:09:34.720 --> 0:09:37.920 Excuse me, guys, what if they make it into the playoffs? 0:09:39.480 --> 0:09:43.280 You're you're gonna need him to Oh you really see Amber? 0:09:43.320 --> 0:09:48.360 Can you see my face? I twenty twenties a crazy year. 0:09:48.440 --> 0:09:51.960 You just never know, You just never know. I mean, 0:09:52.160 --> 0:09:55.760 I would lean toward thinking that he will. I lean 0:09:55.800 --> 0:09:58.920 toward thinking that he will, because even if he has COVID, 0:09:58.960 --> 0:10:00.840 he could still be back at the end of the year. 0:10:00.960 --> 0:10:03.679 And he's the guy that said all the way back 0:10:03.679 --> 0:10:06.040 in August that it's a contract year or so he 0:10:06.120 --> 0:10:09.560 needs tape. He desperately needs tape. Man, I feel bad 0:10:09.600 --> 0:10:14.760 for Cheeto because I mean, whether injuries, whether COVID, Okay, 0:10:14.960 --> 0:10:17.080 yeah he does. I mean, yeah, he needs to prove 0:10:17.120 --> 0:10:20.000 to somebody that he's worth a contract. You're right, You're 0:10:20.040 --> 0:10:23.480 absolutely right. Does he think that way? He should? But 0:10:23.720 --> 0:10:26.760 did he though honestly he should well did he did? 0:10:26.800 --> 0:10:29.600 He come back on a decent time with the hamstrain injury. 0:10:29.720 --> 0:10:32.640 But here's the deal. I don't think it's fair for 0:10:32.760 --> 0:10:35.200 us to say that he could have come back soon. 0:10:35.320 --> 0:10:37.800 Only he knows that, and only the athletic trainers know that. Like, 0:10:38.080 --> 0:10:40.080 that's not something. Now, maybe you've talked to people that 0:10:40.120 --> 0:10:41.960 have that have said things that make you think that, 0:10:42.040 --> 0:10:43.680 but I haven't talked to you about it. I can't 0:10:43.679 --> 0:10:45.599 say that he should have been back earlier than he was. 0:10:45.679 --> 0:10:47.640 And I know, I know you don't rush players back 0:10:47.679 --> 0:10:50.280 from injury. I mean you you you don't rush them back. 0:10:50.440 --> 0:10:53.920 But I just think that um yeah, there was there was. 0:10:53.960 --> 0:10:55.760 I think there were some questions there. There were some 0:10:55.840 --> 0:10:58.959 questions about him getting back, getting help. That's why I 0:10:59.000 --> 0:11:00.800 wonder about this. I wonder if he's gonna be if 0:11:00.800 --> 0:11:03.360 he's good. Well, again, we don't know the severity of 0:11:03.640 --> 0:11:06.560 what the COVID nineteen situation is. I will say this though, 0:11:06.720 --> 0:11:09.280 Let's assume for a second that he has COVID. Right, 0:11:09.679 --> 0:11:11.920 I don't think it's the same thing as my hamstring 0:11:11.960 --> 0:11:16.319 still hurts. You're either still like you still got COVID 0:11:16.440 --> 0:11:18.599 or you don't, right Like, I don't think it's a 0:11:19.080 --> 0:11:21.000 I can still say I got COVID when I really 0:11:21.040 --> 0:11:23.200 don't because I don't really want to go play. I don't. 0:11:23.240 --> 0:11:25.240 I don't know if it works like that. Could could 0:11:25.240 --> 0:11:28.760 you could? Anybody could? I'm not talking about football payers 0:11:28.800 --> 0:11:31.440 I'm talking about anybody. Well, there's a test that says yeah, 0:11:31.480 --> 0:11:33.400 but if you say, man, my third hurts, I've been 0:11:33.400 --> 0:11:35.120 coughing a lot, and they'll probably tell you to come in, 0:11:35.200 --> 0:11:37.480 don't come in. Good point. So I'm just I'm not 0:11:37.480 --> 0:11:39.320 saying he's gonna do all that. I just don't think 0:11:39.320 --> 0:11:41.840 he's gonna play again. I'll be surprised if he plays. 0:11:42.280 --> 0:11:43.840 I just don't. I don't think so. I think he's 0:11:43.960 --> 0:11:45.520 I think they'll be back. I think he will play, 0:11:45.880 --> 0:11:48.480 and I think he'll play some more this year. And 0:11:48.600 --> 0:11:51.120 quite frankly, I agree with Dave. He needs to play 0:11:51.280 --> 0:11:54.400 because if he wants to play in the NFL next year. 0:11:54.880 --> 0:11:56.920 And not to say honestly, I don't know that he's 0:11:56.960 --> 0:11:59.480 gonna do a ton in two games. They'll say, let's 0:11:59.520 --> 0:12:01.280 assume worst case scenario and he's back to play the 0:12:01.280 --> 0:12:02.719 final games. I don't know if he's gonna enough in 0:12:02.720 --> 0:12:05.280 two games that's gonna change the whole dynamic of whether 0:12:05.280 --> 0:12:07.800 somebody's willing to give him a big contract or not. Right, 0:12:08.000 --> 0:12:11.320 that story's already written. But I do think it could help, 0:12:11.480 --> 0:12:14.040 right if he could come back and have good performances. 0:12:14.080 --> 0:12:17.360 And I do think it could help in his free agency. 0:12:18.160 --> 0:12:22.880 Don Jalen Rager and the Eagles, you know, hey, you know, 0:12:23.000 --> 0:12:25.240 you never know. I mean, I just think, I honestly 0:12:25.280 --> 0:12:27.040 think that that this is a situation where he needs 0:12:27.080 --> 0:12:29.160 to play. He needs to play, all right, real quick. 0:12:29.200 --> 0:12:30.839 Before we go to our first break, I did want 0:12:30.840 --> 0:12:32.960 to get some updates on a couple other people. Zeke 0:12:33.000 --> 0:12:36.599 Elliott was limited with an industry injury to his hamstring. 0:12:36.640 --> 0:12:39.240 I think it is a calf and then we had 0:12:39.240 --> 0:12:43.000 Alda Smith who was limited and Tyler beat returned to practice. 0:12:43.040 --> 0:12:45.120 Obviously not going to play this week, but catch me 0:12:45.240 --> 0:12:48.200 up on those guys, particularly Zeke and whether he's going 0:12:48.240 --> 0:12:50.920 to be available this weekend. Sounds like he wants to play, 0:12:50.920 --> 0:12:53.319 and it sounds like he's going to play that this 0:12:53.360 --> 0:12:55.959 is just something that they're they're trying to manage. We'll 0:12:56.000 --> 0:13:00.000 see what happens on Sunday, but I'm guessing that would 0:13:00.280 --> 0:13:03.200 you know, we'll see about Saturday because I would imagine 0:13:03.240 --> 0:13:05.880 if he's not gonna play, we'll see one of those. 0:13:06.200 --> 0:13:11.400 We'll see the TCU running back that's a rookie, say, 0:13:11.400 --> 0:13:16.440 whoa something, Shay, whoa what's his last Alana Lua? Good 0:13:16.480 --> 0:13:19.440 Ala Lua, good job, Dave. They will bring him up. 0:13:20.360 --> 0:13:23.120 That's my guy. So why you've never met him before, 0:13:23.120 --> 0:13:27.240 but that's your go Yeah. I mean, anytime you have 0:13:27.280 --> 0:13:30.520 a six three, two hundred and forty pound fullback running 0:13:30.520 --> 0:13:32.960 back who can go to the house from fifty yards out, 0:13:33.000 --> 0:13:34.680 I just you know, it's fun. 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Tell us the greatest strength, 0:16:34.400 --> 0:16:40.640 the greatest weakness of the Cincinnati Bengals defense was strength 0:16:40.880 --> 0:16:44.560 her willingness to do unconventional things in terms of bring 0:16:44.560 --> 0:16:47.280 pressure from all over. It's a team that doesn't have 0:16:47.320 --> 0:16:50.960 a lot of a level talent all around. Their best 0:16:50.960 --> 0:16:54.160 players have been okay when it comes to the production. 0:16:54.480 --> 0:16:56.960 But up front, you're talking about Sam Hubbard, if you're 0:16:56.960 --> 0:16:59.560 talking about Carl Lawson, you're talking about those guys kind 0:16:59.560 --> 0:17:01.600 of getting it done. In the back end, Jesse Bates 0:17:02.000 --> 0:17:05.120 is a safe two as three interceptions, and then it's 0:17:05.119 --> 0:17:07.520 just kind of a hodgepodge in a collection of guys. 0:17:08.320 --> 0:17:10.879 To their credit, they do play hard. They have played 0:17:11.240 --> 0:17:14.080 better in recent weeks. The last three opponents they failed 0:17:14.080 --> 0:17:16.840 to twenty points of fewer. And so it's a team 0:17:16.880 --> 0:17:20.920 that is dangerous because of their willingness to bring pressure 0:17:20.920 --> 0:17:23.320 from all over their line up and bring zero pressures 0:17:23.320 --> 0:17:26.200 in those things. And they play hard and that always 0:17:26.200 --> 0:17:29.800 to give you a chance. Bucky, I would like to 0:17:29.840 --> 0:17:33.040 know more about the D line and what they got 0:17:33.080 --> 0:17:35.560 going on there. I think that we did see a 0:17:35.600 --> 0:17:38.480 good game from the Cowboys old line last week, and 0:17:38.720 --> 0:17:42.000 I'm just really curious what that's gonna look like and 0:17:42.040 --> 0:17:44.560 what they currently have there as far as like the 0:17:44.600 --> 0:17:48.560 ability to create some pressure and get to the quarterback. Well, 0:17:48.600 --> 0:17:50.520 they had a few sacs in the National Football League. 0:17:50.520 --> 0:17:52.320 They only have thirteen sacks in twelve games, so you're 0:17:52.320 --> 0:17:55.480 talking about one a little over one a game. They 0:17:55.520 --> 0:17:58.200 haven't really been able to generate pressure, and so because 0:17:58.240 --> 0:18:01.199 of that they've had to add extra rushers into the blitz. 0:18:01.600 --> 0:18:04.280 We talk about a get right game and those things 0:18:04.320 --> 0:18:06.879 like this is one where you should have an opportunity 0:18:06.920 --> 0:18:09.359 to get right because there's not a five star talent 0:18:09.680 --> 0:18:13.560 on the other side that can um completely disrupt and 0:18:13.640 --> 0:18:17.080 destroy the game as a one man breaking crew. Buck 0:18:17.119 --> 0:18:20.520 you eat when you said Lawson, Hubbard and Bates and 0:18:20.560 --> 0:18:23.360 then there's some other dis guys that that one kind 0:18:23.359 --> 0:18:26.359 of catch me by surprise because I had never heard Honestly, 0:18:26.359 --> 0:18:29.920 I never heard of any of those three players. Likes play. 0:18:30.720 --> 0:18:33.800 Did you play for the forty nine ers? Now, I 0:18:33.920 --> 0:18:36.800 think though, no, no, no, no, I haven't never heard 0:18:36.880 --> 0:18:43.240 any and I'm okay with that. I'm okay. So but yeah, Carl, Carl, 0:18:43.480 --> 0:18:46.040 who's Carl Auston? Tell me more about him, that's my question. 0:18:46.720 --> 0:18:50.119 Carl Auston, Yeah, Carl, Yeah. Carl Lauson coming out of 0:18:50.119 --> 0:18:53.119 Auburn was a guy that was a highly decorated recruit 0:18:53.760 --> 0:18:57.200 um that look they drafted. He's been a hard working player. 0:18:57.320 --> 0:18:59.600 He's a guy who certainly has some snap off the ball. 0:19:00.200 --> 0:19:01.959 He has strong hands, he has the ability to get 0:19:02.000 --> 0:19:03.800 to the quarterback. He has four and a half sacks. 0:19:04.480 --> 0:19:08.040 Sam Hubbard played at Ohio State. Here's someone I really 0:19:08.080 --> 0:19:10.560 liked in the draft process. I thought he's very, very versatile, 0:19:11.320 --> 0:19:14.440 he has length, he has athleticism. For whatever reason in 0:19:14.520 --> 0:19:16.960 this scheme, he hasn't been able to get it done. 0:19:17.000 --> 0:19:20.480 He's had more productive years early in his career. Jesse Bates, 0:19:21.119 --> 0:19:26.399 safety from Wake Forest, is instinctive and aware. He was 0:19:26.440 --> 0:19:29.719 a really good player in college. But you know, sometimes, man, 0:19:29.800 --> 0:19:31.280 we played for a losing team. It's a bit of 0:19:31.320 --> 0:19:33.719 a black hole. And I think some of those players, 0:19:33.760 --> 0:19:35.879 even Vonville who has come over as a free agent, 0:19:36.440 --> 0:19:39.240 they just kind of get swallowed up and just all 0:19:39.320 --> 0:19:41.440 of the losing and you don't see them necessarily play 0:19:41.440 --> 0:19:43.240 at a high level or to the level that you 0:19:43.359 --> 0:19:45.640 thought they would play at when you evaluated them coming 0:19:45.680 --> 0:19:50.200 out of college. I will I'll say this, Buck, I mean, 0:19:50.320 --> 0:19:53.639 I'm I loved Jesse Bates when you know when he 0:19:53.800 --> 0:19:56.280 was a draft prospect on the Draft show coming out 0:19:56.320 --> 0:20:00.879 of Wake Forest, and it's seen. I've barely watched the 0:20:00.960 --> 0:20:04.000 Bengals this year obviously they're a bad team. Joe Burrows 0:20:04.040 --> 0:20:07.800 not playing anymore, but you know he's he's he's gonna 0:20:07.840 --> 0:20:10.280 finish with more than one hundred tackles, He's got three interceptions. 0:20:10.320 --> 0:20:11.920 It seems like he's got a decent shot at the 0:20:11.960 --> 0:20:15.359 Pro Bowl. I mean, are those are those numbers hollow 0:20:15.480 --> 0:20:17.760 or is he actually having a pretty good season. I mean, 0:20:17.840 --> 0:20:20.360 what type of safety has he been for them this year? 0:20:20.359 --> 0:20:22.920 Because statistically it looks like he's having a bit of 0:20:22.960 --> 0:20:26.440 a breakthrough. Yeah. I mean this is a combination. The 0:20:26.560 --> 0:20:29.399 defense hasn't played well, so he has been forced to 0:20:29.480 --> 0:20:31.200 make a lot of tackles, but he has may plays 0:20:31.280 --> 0:20:32.880 on the ball, and that was this thing when he's 0:20:32.920 --> 0:20:36.480 coming out of way far it's very instinctive, really good 0:20:36.520 --> 0:20:40.360 awareness and anticipation, and I think those things that played out. 0:20:40.600 --> 0:20:42.960 He's now playing alongside Von Bill. Von Bill, there's a 0:20:42.960 --> 0:20:44.840 guy who played at New Orleans for a long time, 0:20:44.880 --> 0:20:48.640 played a big program. Ohio State has some physicality and toughness, 0:20:48.720 --> 0:20:52.320 and so their safeties can certainly come down and be factors. 0:20:52.720 --> 0:20:56.400