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Speaker 1: Bold reverence and occasionally randomed. The Sunday hang with Playin'

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Speaker 1: Buck podcast starts now.

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Speaker 2: We are joined now by Isabelle Brown. One of the

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Speaker 2: conversations we've been having this week since Sunday, when there

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Speaker 2: was a major gender divide revealed in the eighteen to

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Speaker 2: double digits for Trump. If only men were voting, Trump

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Speaker 2: would have a Ronald Reagan Walter Mondale style landslide. But

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Speaker 2: Kamala has got a double digit lead among women according

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Speaker 2: to the data. And let me say this, many of

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Speaker 2: you out there who are women feel compelled to email

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Speaker 2: me and say I'm a woman and I'm voting for

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump.

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: I understand that many women are voting for Donald Trump.

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Speaker 2: When I say that women are voting for Kamala Harris,

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Speaker 2: it is the collective group of women, not you individually.

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Speaker 2: But I do appreciate the emails letting me know that

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Speaker 2: is I bet voting for Donald Trump. She is Isabelle Brown.

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Speaker 2: She has got a book out about how gen Z

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Speaker 2: can save the world. Isabelle gen Z, thank you for

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Speaker 2: joining us eighteen to twenty nine year olds. Men in

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Speaker 2: that group are voting for Trump by twelve points. Pretty extraordinary.

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Speaker 2: You're right in your book about how gen Z can

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Speaker 3: And thanks for coming on.

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Speaker 4: Well, thanks so much for having me. It's such a

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Speaker 4: paying attention to future demographics, not just politically, but even

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Speaker 4: on a relationship basis. I read a study the other

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Speaker 4: current projections. So this transcends even who sits in the

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Speaker 4: learn how to communicate and live together moving forward. Young

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Speaker 4: that's happening because there's been an attack on masculinity for

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Speaker 4: You were made this way for a reason, and that

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Speaker 4: But it has to have that pendulum swing happen first

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Speaker 3: It's interesting you mentioned young men.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if I've told this story on the air,

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, And I couldn't have said it better myself than

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Speaker 4: And I touch on this quite substantially in my book

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Speaker 2: You mentioned something important, and I might be an old

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Speaker 2: Okay, So I had my and I when I say

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Speaker 2: Yep, congratulations Isabelle Brown with us newlywed. So and I

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Speaker 3: Even though we're in a union.

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Speaker 2: really I'm curious for you. I know, the quarter life

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Speaker 4: It, absolutely, And I love how you phrased that as

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Speaker 2: last question for you Isabelle. We get a lot of

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Speaker 4: Thank you so much for having me Isabelle Brown.

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Speaker 5: a renewed lease on life. So it's like, you let

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Speaker 5: me have that.

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Speaker 2: Guys, you went to hill You went to Hillsdale College,

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Speaker 2: which is a big advertise a on this program. I'm curious,

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Speaker 2: what's your fan And I saw you when you made

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Speaker 2: the announcement. I think you were in the Detroit Tiger's shirt,

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Speaker 2: which is probably the I think I tweeted the biggest

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Speaker 2: win that somebody in the Detroit Tiger's shirt has had

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Speaker 2: for a long time. What was Hillsdale like for you

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Speaker 2: and what's the family reaction like in Michigan to the

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Speaker 2: idea of you being a mom?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, hills Hill was a great experience for me. I

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Speaker 5: mean I had a full tuition scholarship there, which is

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Speaker 5: a major reason why I went. But I had I

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Speaker 5: think I'm a better writer because of Hillsdale because I

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Speaker 5: had the actual attention from professors who saw me as

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Speaker 5: a human being out as a number. I had to

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Speaker 5: sit down and work with them, and you know, even

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Speaker 5: having to take a constitution class, Like, I'm shocked how

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Speaker 5: little people know about the Constitution. Yeah, as the average person.

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Speaker 5: But and my family's thrilled. So this is my dad,

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Speaker 5: this is the first grand kid. So everybody's very, very excited,

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Speaker 5: and I'm I am very excited.

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Speaker 2: So you are willing to change your mind as data

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Speaker 2: is presented to you. I think we have that in common.

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Speaker 2: I had Nate Silver on earlier, and Nate Silver is

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Speaker 2: a data and analytics guy. What do you think the

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Speaker 2: world would look like if more people were willing to

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Speaker 2: change their opinions based on data? How much better would

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Speaker 2: it be. Would it be like, what do you think

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Speaker 2: the world would look like? Because Nate said he thinks

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Speaker 2: about five percent of the population, maybe ten percent, is

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Speaker 2: actually willing to re examine their prior opinions based on

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Speaker 2: new data. How many people do you think are and

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Speaker 2: what would the world look like if more were willing

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Speaker 2: to do it.

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Speaker 5: I think most people don't even want to expose themselves

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Speaker 5: to data that they might make them rethink things. I

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Speaker 5: think the world will be a lot better. But there

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Speaker 5: would also need to be something else that was required,

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Speaker 5: which would be for you to be allowed to change

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Speaker 5: your mind, because I think these days people kind of

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Speaker 5: put you in a box and you kind of stay there,

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Speaker 5: or if you make a single mistake, then that mistake

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Speaker 5: defines you. You're not allowed to kind of grow and change.

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Speaker 5: We've got people getting in trouble for things they said

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Speaker 5: when they were teenagers, and they're getting trouble for it

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Speaker 5: like ten fifteen years later. I mean, I don't know

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Speaker 5: about you. When I was a teenager, I was an idiot.

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Speaker 5: I think we all were right. So I think that

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Speaker 5: that would be something that would be required as well,

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Speaker 5: because I think a lot of people aren't motivated to

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Speaker 5: want to change their minds, because if they do, it

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Speaker 5: doesn't even matter anyway.

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Speaker 2: The book is I used to like you until how

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Speaker 2: binary thinking divides this. Kat Temp, You're on Gutfeld pretty

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Speaker 2: much every night A ton Yes. What do you think

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Speaker 2: people would be surprised about to know about the Gutfeld Show,

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Speaker 2: which now is the most watched late night television show,

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Speaker 2: more than Kimmel, more than I can't even keep up

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Speaker 2: with all of them, more than Jimmy Fallon, more than

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Speaker 2: whoever the late night guys are on a Stephen Colbert,

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Speaker 2: what do you think people will be surprised about the show?

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Speaker 2: What has surprised you about doing daily television on a

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Speaker 2: successful show like that?

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Speaker 5: I mean, I just I would say, probably just how

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Speaker 5: it kind of relaxed and comfortable is and how much

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Speaker 5: we all really do get along. I think I don't

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Speaker 5: know if that would surprise people or not, but I

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Speaker 5: really feel so comfortable on the show to express whatever

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Speaker 5: it is I want to say, and even if it's

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Speaker 5: obviously different sometimes from what Greg thinks. I think I'm

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Speaker 5: really really lucky to have that. I think there's a

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Speaker 5: lot of people in media who do work places or

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Speaker 5: have you know in environments where they feel like they

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Speaker 5: can't say what they really think, or they're even outright

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Speaker 5: told hey, I know you might think this, but you

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Speaker 5: can't say it. I've never been told that once. I

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Speaker 5: know some people think that I have a script or writers,

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Speaker 5: which I also don't have. So it's really I think.

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Speaker 2: That's important too, because I do Fox News and I've

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Speaker 2: done gutfel with you in done Fox News over time.

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Speaker 2: Nobody obviously, I think people understand tells me anything I

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Speaker 2: can or can't say on radio.

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Speaker 3: They never have.

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Speaker 2: But I've never experienced anybody at Fox News telling me, hey,

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Speaker 2: you can't say this, And I think that's super important.

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Speaker 2: I think it comes through on your show. But you

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Speaker 2: said you've been at Fox News for nine years. I

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Speaker 2: imagine that freedom has been there for you throughout.

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Speaker 5: Two it has. I've never wanted to say something but

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Speaker 5: then told that I can't say it from Fox. So

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Speaker 5: I think that that is very something. I'm very, very,

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Speaker 5: very very I don't take that for granted at all.

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Speaker 3: Kat, you're a best selling author.

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Speaker 2: Congratulations on the upcoming baby in February. Thanks for making

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Speaker 2: the time with us today. Encourage people to go check

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Speaker 2: out the brand new book. I used to like you

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Speaker 2: until have fun on the tour.

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Speaker 5: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: She's kat Temp best selling author Gutfeld. You'll see her

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Speaker 2: probably later tonight, certainly in the days and weeks ahead.

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Speaker 2: And producer Ali says it's a fabulous book and you

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Speaker 2: should go read it, and she says it's going to

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Speaker 2: be really well received by many of you.

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Speaker 3: So there you go.

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Speaker 1: Sundays with Clay and Buck.

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Speaker 2: Join now by my friend Riley Gaines, who is down

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Speaker 2: in Atlanta speaking. We'll get into what she is speaking about.

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Speaker 2: But Riley, yesterday I was talking about how Trump needs

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Speaker 2: to do better with young female voters. I don't know

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Speaker 2: if you saw the graphic that I shared where eighteen

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Speaker 2: to twenty nine year old men are going to vote

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Speaker 2: for Trump by double digits, but eighteen to twenty nine

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Speaker 2: year old women are right now, potentially by a margin

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Speaker 2: of nearly thirty eight percent, going to vote for Kamalin.

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Speaker 2: And I said, Okay, who is the best people out

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Speaker 2: there that could speak to this audience? And we got

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Speaker 2: multiple calls saying, I love Riley Gaines. She's doing a

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Speaker 2: really good job. She should be used more. And I

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Speaker 2: know you spoke at the Trump RFK Junior rally out

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Speaker 2: in Arizona. But I said, we got to get Riley

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Speaker 2: on to talk. So congratulations on the impact you're already having.

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Speaker 2: But what can we do to make young women see

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Speaker 2: how fundamentally dishonest A lot of what Kamala is selling.

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Speaker 7: Is well, gosh, first of all, it's a joy to

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Speaker 7: be on with you, Klay, So thank you very much.

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Speaker 7: And yeah, this is coming off the hills. You mentioned

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Speaker 7: being fundamentally dishonest. I mean, this is coming off the

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Speaker 7: hill the heels of today. Just today we're seeing Kamala

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Speaker 7: Harris now pledging millions, hundreds of millions of dollars to

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Speaker 7: building up the wall, the blurder to which she called

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Speaker 7: Unamerican under President Trump. And so look what we need

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Speaker 7: to see from from the conservative side, from from Trump's surgus,

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Speaker 7: what we need to see being pushed out to win

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Speaker 7: over younger women, who, of course tend to be more empathetic,

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Speaker 7: they tend to be more emotionally driven, they tend to

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Speaker 7: be more apologetic. Trump spends a lot of his time

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Speaker 7: talking about foreign policy, which which is certainly an advantage

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Speaker 7: over the Biden Harris. Kamala Harris especially that administration, but

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Speaker 7: it's not doing a whole lot. I believe to win

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Speaker 7: over women, he needs to talk about how children are

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Speaker 7: being impacted by progressive policies, whether that's with education, whether

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Speaker 7: that's the gender ideology movement, whether that's putting men in

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Speaker 7: women's locker rooms, what have you. Again, that's an appeal

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Speaker 7: to mom's the suburban woman. You don't mess with her kids.

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Speaker 7: Nothing scarier than a mad mama bear. We need to

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Speaker 7: invoke that. That's what we need to see. I've been

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Speaker 7: super enthusiastic to see Donald Trump going on He just

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Speaker 7: went on Sean Ryan's show. That interview was awesome. He's

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Speaker 7: been on Coe Vaughn, he just did Aiden Ross. I

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Speaker 7: think largely in part Baron Trump has been a big

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Speaker 7: proponent of getting him on these streaming networks, these podcasts

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Speaker 7: he's on TikTok now, all really wonderful things to getting

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Speaker 7: in front of younger voters, more specifically, I think young women.

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Speaker 2: So this is interesting because you live in Nashville where

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Speaker 2: I am, and you went to an SEC school at Kentucky.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes I think we take calls and people say, like,

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Speaker 2: we had a caller the other day he said, Hey,

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Speaker 2: I'm in Alabama. Most of the people that I see

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Speaker 2: young or voting Trump. That can be true in red states.

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Speaker 2: What happens though, when you're out traveling. You were just

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Speaker 2: out in Arizona. It's a toss up state. Certainly, there

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Speaker 2: are a lot of people out there that are probably

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Speaker 2: open to the arguments you make.

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Speaker 3: What would you tell because we've.

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Speaker 2: Got a lot of people out there listening their moms

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Speaker 2: and their grandmas, and maybe they're voting for Trump, but

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Speaker 2: they're trying to think about how to talk to their

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Speaker 2: teenage daughters, to their early twenty something daughters. That's people

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Speaker 2: in your wheelhouse. What would you tell those moms and

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Speaker 2: grandma's listening to us right now? How do they have

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Speaker 2: a conversation with their daughter who maybe is almost totally focused.

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Speaker 2: And I know you see this a lot too on

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Speaker 2: the abortion issue, to the exclusion of almost everything else

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Speaker 2: when it comes to how they vote. How would you

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Speaker 2: tell them to approach and have a conversation with their

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Speaker 2: daughters and their granddaughters.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: No, we saw this again at the DNC. Virtually every

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Speaker 7: single speaker, even speakers were it didn't make sense. You

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Speaker 7: had Andy Basher up there, he spent almost his entire

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Speaker 7: time talking about abortion and health care freedom and reproductive rights,

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Speaker 7: which doesn't make much sense to me. He could have

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Speaker 7: talked about a plethora of other things, like education, whatever.

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Speaker 7: Besides the point what, I think I've spent a lot

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Speaker 7: of time trying to really understand the other side, understand

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Speaker 7: what's effective talking to people my age again, more specifically

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Speaker 7: young women, what works and so what I think again

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Speaker 7: I've seen in toss up states. You're right, living in Nashville,

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Speaker 7: going to an SEC school. I think people are also

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Speaker 7: becoming more bold and plainly saying, look, I'm supporting President Trump. Yeah,

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Speaker 7: but I think what we need to see what Again,

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Speaker 7: I've seen the effective is the simple statement, how can

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Speaker 7: you defend what you cannot define? The Democrats they claim

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Speaker 7: to be the party of and for women, Yet they

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Speaker 7: can't even define what a woman is, So how in

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Speaker 7: the world can you claim to defend it? I think

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Speaker 7: that's an effective way of getting the point across. They

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Speaker 7: don't really stand with you. Again, they speak of healthcare freedom,

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Speaker 7: where was that in twenty twenty? No, the Democratic Party,

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Speaker 7: they were the tyrants who fired healthcare workers, They fired

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Speaker 7: school teachers, active duty military members. If they didn't conform

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Speaker 7: to their autocratic mandates, reminding people of that. You know

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Speaker 7: the other side. They speak of compassion, they speak of empathy,

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Speaker 7: they speak of inclusion. Well, is it inclusive to ask

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Speaker 7: young girls to smile and step aside and allow men

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Speaker 7: onto their podiums? And is it compassionate to ask young

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Speaker 7: girls to go into a locker room and undress next

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Speaker 7: to fully grown, fully intact, six foot four men. No,

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Speaker 7: that's not what compassion is. And so almost flipping it

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Speaker 7: back on them using their language again, admittedly what the

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Speaker 7: left does, well, I think we can take a page

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Speaker 7: from their playbook on this.

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Speaker 2: You competed against Leah Thomas, a as you said, six

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Speaker 2: foot four man.

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Speaker 3: You're also married.

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Speaker 2: I think your fabulous husband, Louis is about six foot

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Speaker 2: four and a male swimmer from the University of Kentucky.

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Speaker 2: But in Pennsylvania this is really important because the race

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Speaker 2: may well come down to Pennsylvania. So I want you

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Speaker 2: Pennsylvanians listening really close to this. But certainly it applies everywhere.

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Speaker 2: University of Pennsylvania allowed Leah Thomas to flip and go

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Speaker 2: from the men's swim team to the women swim too

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Speaker 2: and win an NCAA Championship. The Governor of Pennsylvania, Josh Shapiro,

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Speaker 2: endorsed this and said it should be completely acceptable in

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Speaker 2: the state of Pennsylvanian. Now, I know there's a lot

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Speaker 2: of Pennsylvanians out there listening to this, but for people

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Speaker 2: who have not experienced your exact story, it directly connects

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Speaker 2: with probably the biggest battleground in this entire country right now,

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Speaker 2: where the University of Pennsylvania is and where Democrats have

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Speaker 2: endorsed what happened to you.

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Speaker 7: Absolutely, yeah, we've seen Governor Shapiro. He's posted on ex

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Speaker 7: social media many times saying trans women are women. I'm

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Speaker 7: fully behind this and what he is saying he is behind.

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Speaker 7: Let me be very clear, is sexual harassment. To be

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Speaker 7: totally frank with you, and I correctly label it as

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Speaker 7: sexual harassment because we did not give our consent to

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Speaker 7: be in that locker room. No one asked for our

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Speaker 7: consent to be fully unclosed, exploited, and violated while in

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Speaker 7: man was simultaneously undressing himself in front of us. I mean,

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Speaker 7: think about that. Not to mention, of course, the unfair

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Speaker 7: competition side of it, which anyone with any amount of

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Speaker 7: brain activity at least any amount of sanity would be

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Speaker 7: able to see. I mean, the unfairness in that allowing

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Speaker 7: a mediocre nonetheless a Division one swimmer, a Division one

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Speaker 7: mail swimmer, but mediocre in his rightful category, to switch

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Speaker 7: over to the women's team after three years of competing

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Speaker 7: on the men's team, to then dominate. Anyone would see

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Speaker 7: the problem with that. Not to mention upen if we're

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Speaker 7: going to be talking about youpen and the policies that

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Speaker 7: they're pushing there. We saw what they did, I mean

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Speaker 7: just about a year ago on October seventh, all all

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Speaker 7: the protests we saw with what's going on in the

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Speaker 7: Middle East, how the university responded there really really insane stuff.

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Speaker 7: It's almost as if, speaking I guess about the protests,

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Speaker 7: we saw this Frankenstein scenario where these universities have created

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Speaker 7: these monsters, and the monsters were turning around and destroying

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Speaker 7: the very thing that created it.

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Speaker 2: We're talking to Riley Gaines, you're down in Georgia right now.

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Speaker 2: I want you to tell us what you're doing there.

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Speaker 2: Certainly I encourage you guys to go follow Riley on

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Speaker 2: social media and listen to her show. She does an

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Speaker 2: OutKick show among many other things. But Riley, tell us

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Speaker 2: what you're doing in Georgia, But also have you been

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Speaker 2: thanks to what I think is your courage and your bravery,

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Speaker 2: have you been seeing as you're now traveling the country,

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Speaker 2: more and more people, both women and men, being willing

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Speaker 2: to stand up and call out how ridiculous it is

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Speaker 2: to allow men to compete in women's sports. Are you

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Speaker 2: seeing that tide personally in your day to day experience

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Speaker 2: as you've been fighting this battle begin to change To answer.

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Speaker 7: The latter first, absolutely, people they're seeing again the severity,

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Speaker 7: the trajectory of where we're going. Because for so long

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Speaker 7: we thought to ourselves, this is absurd, it won't really happen,

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Speaker 7: it's just a one off. This is a solution in

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Speaker 7: search of a problem. Now people are seeing firsthand, we

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Speaker 7: thought the olymp male boxers who previously failed sex eligibility requirements,

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Speaker 7: who were able to get into a ring the highest

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Speaker 7: athletic stage of the Olympics, with the intent of knocking

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Speaker 7: women unconscious, punching them in the face, and they were

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Speaker 7: awarded gold medals. People see that this is absurd. Now

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Speaker 7: to answer why we're in Georgia myself and about almost

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Speaker 7: twenty other female athletes. We signed onto a lawsuit suing

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Speaker 7: the into DOAA and the University of Georgia school systems

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Speaker 7: that national championships happened at Georgia Tech, and so we

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Speaker 7: were invited today to testify before a Georgia Senate committee.

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Speaker 7: The president of Georgia Tech was also invited to testify.

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Speaker 7: He at one point was complying until he realized that

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Speaker 7: we would be there, and he subsequently denied to be

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Speaker 7: there to testify. And so I had a testimony prepared

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Speaker 7: today to read, highlighting what we went through again then

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Speaker 7: awareness the lack of room, the silencing that we face.

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Speaker 7: But instead, after realizing he wasn't going to be there,

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Speaker 7: I decided to write him a letter and read him

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Speaker 7: my letter during my time to testify, which I believe

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Speaker 7: is very powerful, It's very compelling. I ask him the

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Speaker 7: simple questions everyone wants to know. Why didn't you protect us?

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Speaker 7: And what are you hiding now?

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Speaker 4: Why won't you show up?

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Speaker 7: Why won't you show your face? Do you have daughters?

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Speaker 7: How in the world can you sit back as a

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Speaker 7: powerful educated man? I mean, he's been awarded honors by

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Speaker 7: the World Economic Forum, he sits on many governing bodies

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Speaker 7: and boards. He's a smart man, and you really mean

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Speaker 7: to tell me you're okay with what you allowed to

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Speaker 7: happen on your campus. I don't think so, and you'll

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Speaker 7: answer for it. And so that's where we are now.

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Speaker 7: We actually just concluded the hearing went very well. We're

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Speaker 7: asking for additional documents internal conversations between the n s

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Speaker 7: A and Georgia Tech leading up to this national championship.

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Speaker 7: Not a lawyer, but I certainly leave that will be

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Speaker 7: victorious in the suit.

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Speaker 2: Riley, courage is contagious and you're providing a lot of

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Speaker 2: courage and as a result, I think you're changing a

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Speaker 2: lot hearts and minds every single day. Keep up the fight.

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Speaker 2: If people want to follow you, where can they follow you?

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Speaker 7: Well, first you can check me out at alkid dot com.

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Speaker 7: I've got a show is called the Games for Girls Podcast.

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Speaker 7: Check that out and then you can follow me on

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Speaker 7: x That is Riley Underscore, gains Underscore and a new

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Speaker 7: best selling author of the book Something Against the Current.

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Speaker 2: Congratulations on all the things. Tell your husband, I said, Hi,

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Speaker 2: keep rolling, keep fighting the good fight.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for taking the time with us today.

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Speaker 7: You got it.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Clay Sunday Draw with Clay and Buck.

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Speaker 2: Joining us now is a woman who makes a living

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Speaker 2: answering real questions all over the media landscape.

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Speaker 3: She is new mom.

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Speaker 2: Caroline Levitt been on the show with us for many

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Speaker 2: years now, Caroline, appreciate you coming on with us. How

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Speaker 2: wild is the campaign season for you? What's happening Labor Day?

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Speaker 3: Weekend?

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Speaker 2: Hey?

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Speaker 8: What's going on? Play? It is absolutely wild, especially being

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Speaker 8: a new mom, no doubt about it. And now we're

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Speaker 8: about to be in the post Labor Day sprint, so

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Speaker 8: it's going to get even crazier. Last week, the American

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Speaker 8: people saw President Trump barnstorming the country. He was in

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Speaker 8: I think seven states in the matter of five days.

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Speaker 8: And that's what they can expect moving forward. The President

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Speaker 8: works harder than anyone I know, and we're going to

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Speaker 8: be all over the country, criss crossing all the battleground

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Speaker 8: states bringing his message and contrasting his record of success

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Speaker 8: with Kamala's record of failures and weakness. We're very excited

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Speaker 8: about the big debate on September tenth. We have finally

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Speaker 8: agreed to terms with the Harris campaign. They tried to

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Speaker 8: backtrack a little bit on us. They wanted Kamla to

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Speaker 8: bring in notes. I think they are getting worried because

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Speaker 8: they know she's incapable of speaking without a teleprompter nearby.

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Speaker 8: But we hope that she'll show up on the tenth.

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Speaker 8: President Trump will be there no matter what, and we're

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Speaker 8: excited about it.

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Speaker 2: Okay, tell us about that debate on September tenth. My

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Speaker 2: understanding is it's going to be in Philadelphia. There will

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Speaker 2: be no audience present, they will be standing, The mics

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Speaker 2: will be muted when you know the other candidate is

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Speaker 2: not speaking. In other words, the candidate who is speaking

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Speaker 2: can speak, but the other one cannot, and then no notes.

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Speaker 2: Am I right about all those details?

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Speaker 8: You are correct about all of those details. It is

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Speaker 8: the exact same rules and ground game that we had

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Speaker 8: in the CNN debate with Joe Biden, and our campaign

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Speaker 8: and the Harris campaign agreed to those terms to keep

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Speaker 8: it the same and then, frankly, it worked out quite

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Speaker 8: well for us.

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Speaker 5: Didn't it.

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Speaker 8: It knocked Joe Biden out of the race. I mean,

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Speaker 8: the reason we have Kamala Harris today is because President

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Speaker 8: Trump dominated him in that debate so much so it

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Speaker 8: really exposed his cognitive decline. However, the Terrris campaign again

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Speaker 8: they tried to backtrack in the past week. They wanted

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Speaker 8: her to bring in notes. They blamed it on the mics.

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Speaker 5: That wasn't it.

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Speaker 8: They're realizing as they prep Kamlo the debate that she

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Speaker 8: is ill equipped of explaining policy.

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Speaker 5: She doesn't know where she stands.

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Speaker 8: They're trying to make her look like a moderate when

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Speaker 8: she is not. She is truly a radical liberal. They're

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Speaker 8: having a hard time with it, but nevertheless we came

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Speaker 8: to an agreement. It is sat in Stone and September

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Speaker 8: tenth is the big night.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Kamala is doing an interview tonight with CNN. I

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Speaker 2: don't know exactly what time they're taping, but it's with

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Speaker 2: Dana Bash, who was one of the moderators of the

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Speaker 2: June twenty seventh debate alongside of Jake Tapper. If I

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Speaker 2: remember correctly, when Trump, your boss knocked out Joe Biden

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Speaker 2: legitimately knocked him out of politics, what do you expect

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Speaker 2: the interview to look like for Dana Bash? And Walls

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Speaker 2: and Harris Part one, Part two. You are the campaign spokesperson.

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Speaker 2: I would bet that the Trump team doesn't tell you, Hey,

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Speaker 2: you need to take a boy with you when you

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Speaker 2: do an interview as a woman. Do you see Kamala

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Speaker 2: Harris needing to bring a man with her for an

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Speaker 2: interview when she's claiming that she wants to be commander

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Speaker 2: in chief as a pretty significant sign of weakness.

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Speaker 8: I absolutely do, and frankly, I think it sends a

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Speaker 8: horrible message to women and girls across the country who

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Speaker 8: are watching her campaign and seeing her run as the

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Speaker 8: the first hopeful female president of the United States, and

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Speaker 8: she can't even sit down for an interview by herself.

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Speaker 8: I think it's actually quite sad and sets a horrible example.

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Speaker 8: But the CNN interview is set to pre tape nevertheless,

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Speaker 8: in about an hour from now, and look, Clay, I've

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Speaker 8: aired my grievances with Dana Bash and Jake Tapper before.

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Speaker 8: I think in the debate with President Trump and Joe Biden,

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Speaker 8: they actually proved to be quite fair, and I hope

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Speaker 8: that Dana Bash will be fair and tough against Kamala

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Speaker 8: Harris in the same way she was against Senator jd

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Speaker 8: Vance last week when he sat down with her for

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Speaker 8: more than an hour long interview and answered tough questions

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Speaker 8: about issues and policy and things that he has said

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Speaker 8: in the past. She needs to question Kamala Harris about

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Speaker 8: the things she has said in the past, like does

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Speaker 8: she still support her ban on tracking? Does she still

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Speaker 8: support the decriminalization of illegal immigration? Does she still support

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Speaker 8: eliminating task bill for violent criminals? And why did she

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Speaker 8: and Tim Walls allow violent rioters to burn down in

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Speaker 8: this in businesses and homes in the summer of twenty

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Speaker 8: twenty and Kamala went on to buil those people out

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Speaker 8: of jail. So, look, there are a lot of questions

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Speaker 8: that need to be asked and answered of Kamala Harris tonight.

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Speaker 8: It is CNN's responsibility to do so. We hope that

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Speaker 8: they will and we will have to see what happens.

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Speaker 2: Do you think that there will be a second debate

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Speaker 2: between Trump and Kamala Harris? We know she was afraid

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Speaker 2: and unwilling to do. I think it was September fourth

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Speaker 2: on Fox News, President Trump suggested Martha McCollum and Brett

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Speaker 2: Bayer as moderators. I think that would have been very fair.

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Speaker 2: I think both of them do great work. This is

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Speaker 2: me personally. I've been on both their shows. I think

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Speaker 2: they have very fair shows. They certainly. Even I think

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Speaker 2: President Trump wasn't happy with Brett Bahyer for one interview

874
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Speaker 2: because he thought he was too tough or didn't like

875
00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 2: some of the questions. But Trump was willing to go

876
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 2: and do the Fox News debate. Do you think Kamala

877
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:09,359
Speaker 2: will try to do only one? Do you think there

878
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:10,359
Speaker 2: will be a second one?

879
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 8: Well, we certainly want there to be more than one.

880
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:17,880
Speaker 8: I can tell you that President Trump has committed to

881
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:21,440
Speaker 8: three debates with Kamala Harris. She's of course, only committed

882
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 8: to the ABC debate, but he committed to one with NBC,

883
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 8: which is arguably the most biased network of all, and

884
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 8: he committed to one with Fox News, which Kamala of

885
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Speaker 8: course rejected those invitations.

886
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Speaker 5: I don't know.

887
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Speaker 8: You'll have to ask the Harris campaign if they ever

888
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 8: come on your show.

889
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 3: Clay, I think the trust me.

890
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:43,759
Speaker 8: I wouldn't hold your brother, but I don't think that.

891
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:48,120
Speaker 8: I think they are waiting to see how Kamala performs

892
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 8: and then they will make a decision on whether or

893
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Speaker 8: not she shows up for another debate. But we'd like

894
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Speaker 8: to do as many as possible.

895
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Speaker 2: When you I think that, by the way, is one

896
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 2: hundred percent right for what they're going to do. They're

897
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Speaker 2: going to wait and see how it goes and decide

898
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 2: whether they're willing to sit for NBC. The President has

899
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Speaker 2: been doing interviews all over the place with everyone, including

900
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Speaker 2: and I've been impressed by this, and I think for

901
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Speaker 2: our audience, you might be able to explain it very

902
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:20,239
Speaker 2: well because you're young, and there's so many voters out

903
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:23,280
Speaker 2: there that are young that find their information from YouTube

904
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Speaker 2: or from social media influencer. So, for instance, I think

905
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Speaker 2: it's aiden Ross super popular on social media. Same thing

906
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Speaker 2: with THEO Vaughn. The President Trump did big sit down

907
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:37,319
Speaker 2: interviews with both of those guys, for instance, what's the

908
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 2: impact there and what's the strategy.

909
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Speaker 5: Well, President Trump has always sat down with the legacy

910
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 5: media first of all, right, the CNN, NBC's, ABC's of

911
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:51,799
Speaker 5: the world. He has never been afraid to go into

912
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Speaker 5: these hostile environments and.

913
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Speaker 8: He continues to do that. He also engages in local

914
00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 8: media interviews all the time. These don't really even get

915
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 8: picked up.

916
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Speaker 5: Or noticed in the press or on X if you will,

917
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 5: but every time we go to a state, President Trump

918
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:10,479
Speaker 5: makes a point to speak with the local reporter within

919
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 5: that media market in that state and then another part

920
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Speaker 5: of his earned media strategy is sitting down with these

921
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Speaker 5: alternative earned media venues.

922
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Speaker 8: If you will, like the doing the live stream on

923
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:29,279
Speaker 8: x with Elon Musk, which had a massive following.

924
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Speaker 5: Massive listenership.

925
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Speaker 8: There was I believe more than a billion impressions on

926
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Speaker 8: that live stream. A couple days later, the Aiden Ross

927
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Speaker 8: interview received millions of hits. He recently sat down for

928
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 8: a really engaging conversation with CEO Vaughan on his podcast,

929
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 8: which is currently number one on Spotify. And so these

930
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 8: opportunities are purposeful, and they give President Trump in an

931
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 8: opportunity to speak to different demographics that don't.

932
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Speaker 5: Watch traditional earned media.

933
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Speaker 8: That he can speak directly to young people, talk to

934
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Speaker 8: them about his policies, and really share his vision for

935
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Speaker 8: the country. And it's been wildly successful, and you know,

936
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Speaker 8: we're getting a good bang for our buck, so to

937
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Speaker 8: speak with these interviews, and the President really enjoys doing them.

938
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Speaker 8: He is such a conversationalist, he's so wise, he's a

939
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:24,800
Speaker 8: great storyteller, and he has a real command of the issues.

940
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:27,920
Speaker 8: So he's able to really sit down with all hosts

941
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Speaker 8: of personalities and talk about any issue under the sun

942
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Speaker 8: and it's always an engaging and lively conversation. And that's

943
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Speaker 8: just something that Kamala Harris is truly incapable of doing.

944
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 8: She has proven that time and time again. Every time

945
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 8: she's without a script or talking points from her advisors,

946
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 8: she makes a fool of herself because she doesn't have

947
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 8: conviction in what she believes. I don't think she's very smart.

948
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Speaker 5: To be honest with you, and she lacks credibility on

949
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:56,960
Speaker 5: many of the issues that matter.

950
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Speaker 2: We're talking to Caroline Levett, Trump campaigns spokesperson. You are

951
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Speaker 2: a member of gen Z If I'm not mistaken, that

952
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:07,880
Speaker 2: is people who are roughly eighteen to twenty nine year olds. Okay,

953
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:09,239
Speaker 2: so this is a question for you that I was

954
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 2: talking about earlier this week. We got a lot of

955
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Speaker 2: people out there listening, daughters, granddaughters that are Kamala supporters.

956
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:18,920
Speaker 2: There's a New York Times story that the biggest gap

957
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:23,560
Speaker 2: in age range support on gender issues is actually eighteen

958
00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 2: to twenty nine year olds. Boys eighteen to twenty nine. Men,

959
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 2: however you want to classify it, are voting for Trump

960
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:32,800
Speaker 2: by plus twelve. I believe women were voting for Kamala

961
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 2: by plus thirty eight, according to again, this was the

962
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:37,879
Speaker 2: Sunday New York Times. I read this in why.

963
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Speaker 3: Do you think that is?

964
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 8: Well?

965
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Speaker 5: I am gen Z.

966
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Speaker 8: In fact, my birth my twenty seventh birthday, was this

967
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Speaker 8: past week. I'm still waiting on my cake from u Clay.

968
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:50,920
Speaker 2: I'm k Haavy birthday. Yeah, it's on the way right now.

969
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 2: You know, I just got a FedEx notice. They managed

970
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 2: to lose it, so it'll be there soon.

971
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Speaker 7: I'm sure.

972
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Speaker 8: Will I thank you in advance for that. No, look,

973
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:05,720
Speaker 8: actually answer your question. I do think there is a gap,

974
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 8: a gender gap that exists, especially amongst young people in

975
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:14,239
Speaker 8: this country with men versus women. In fact, young men

976
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 8: Generation Z boys are the most conservative demographic that we've

977
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 8: seen in decades in terms of young people, like they

978
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:26,600
Speaker 8: identify as more conservative than we've seen from this age

979
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:30,480
Speaker 8: group since the sixties. I actually read that and recently

980
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 8: sow it in a poll. Well, you look at women,

981
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:34,799
Speaker 8: it's a little bit different. I think it has a

982
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:37,359
Speaker 8: lot to do with the culture that we live in, unfortunately,

983
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:41,280
Speaker 8: a lot to do with media, and frankly, every institution

984
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 8: in this country is controlled by leftists. I mean, the

985
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:46,040
Speaker 8: public school system badly has gone down.

986
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:46,399
Speaker 5: The drain.

987
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:49,399
Speaker 8: You look at the teachers, unions, and educators and many

988
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 8: big schools, especially in big cities, they are leftists primarily.

989
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:56,680
Speaker 8: You look at, of course, the higher education system totally

990
00:48:57,480 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 8: controlled by leftists. So by the time many of these

991
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:03,880
Speaker 8: young people are on their college campus, they're already left leaning,

992
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:07,200
Speaker 8: and then they are being indoctrinated further. I think the

993
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:10,319
Speaker 8: Democrat Party, unfortunately, and we're fighting this every day, has

994
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:12,840
Speaker 8: done a good job of indoctrinating young women into the

995
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:15,880
Speaker 8: you know, my body, my choice mantra movement, and we

996
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:18,840
Speaker 8: have to change hearts and minds with young women across

997
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:22,520
Speaker 8: the country. I think, though, as we've always seen throughout history,

998
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:25,239
Speaker 8: as these young people get older, as they you know,

999
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:28,759
Speaker 8: graduate from college with thousands of dollars of debt on

1000
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:31,480
Speaker 8: their backs, they enter the workforce, they are going to

1001
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 8: become conservative again. We always see that happen. I think

1002
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 8: we'll continue to see it because you understand the way

1003
00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:39,360
Speaker 8: the world works. You understand that the government is not

1004
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:42,400
Speaker 8: your friend. It's actually a big part of the problem.

1005
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:44,880
Speaker 8: You want more money in your pocket, you want to

1006
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 8: be tax less, and you just kind of come back

1007
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:50,920
Speaker 8: to reality, to be honest. But we are seeing President

1008
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:53,920
Speaker 8: Trump pick up historic games with young people overall, and

1009
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:57,600
Speaker 8: especially with young men, and you know, he's certainly reaching

1010
00:49:57,600 --> 00:50:00,160
Speaker 8: out to them with doing some of these podcasts he's

1011
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:03,840
Speaker 8: been sitting on, you know, going to UFC fights, and

1012
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:06,560
Speaker 8: he's a dude's dude, and I think he resonates with

1013
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:08,440
Speaker 8: a lot of young men in this country who feel like,

1014
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:11,200
Speaker 8: you know, the Democrat Party and the Hollywood elite that

1015
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:15,080
Speaker 8: control our institutions just don't really speak for them anymore.

1016
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:18,080
Speaker 2: You just had a twenty seventh birthday, and I'm so

1017
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:19,960
Speaker 2: glad that my birthday cake is going to get to

1018
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:22,920
Speaker 2: you in time for even a belated birthday. But have

1019
00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:26,239
Speaker 2: you dealt with the fact Last question for you, Caroline,

1020
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:29,640
Speaker 2: you grew up in the New England Patriots were really good.

1021
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:33,000
Speaker 2: Are you prepared for an era when the New England

1022
00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:35,120
Speaker 2: Patriots might be the worst team.

1023
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 3: In the NFL?

1024
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:40,400
Speaker 8: I have to say, as I'm in my late twenties,

1025
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 8: I have never known a Patriots team that sucks, and

1026
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:49,120
Speaker 8: it sucks to suck. The last couple of seasons have

1027
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:52,560
Speaker 8: been tough to watch. My husband tells me we're in

1028
00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:55,520
Speaker 8: a rebuilding era right now. I hope that he's right.

1029
00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:58,880
Speaker 8: I hope someday my son will get to know the dynasty,

1030
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:01,480
Speaker 8: the Patriots dynasty that I did. I had more Super

1031
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:03,640
Speaker 8: Bowl parties by the time I was like ten years

1032
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 8: old than anyone experiences in their life. So I'm hopeful.

1033
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 8: I believe in Patriots Nation, and you know what, being

1034
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:13,400
Speaker 8: a New England sports fan, it's just it's been a

1035
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:16,000
Speaker 8: great ride. A lot of like I said, super Bowl parties,

1036
00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:17,759
Speaker 8: a lot of championships, a lot of fun.

1037
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:21,680
Speaker 2: Caroline Levitt, she's killing it for President Trump. She just

1038
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:24,839
Speaker 2: celebrated her twenty seventh birthday. The only thing going bad

1039
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 2: for is the Patriots are no longer a good football team.

1040
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 3: Caroline.

1041
00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:30,720
Speaker 2: We will talk to you again soon. Tell your husband

1042
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:32,960
Speaker 2: that he better be right about the rebuild or there's

1043
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:34,960
Speaker 2: gonna be a lot of angry Patriots fans out there.

1044
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 5: I will.

1045
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:38,759
Speaker 8: Indeed, he's a long time past fan.

1046
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:41,640
Speaker 5: I think he has it covered. Thank you, Say thank.

1047
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:42,279
Speaker 3: You, Caroline.

1048
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:45,000
Speaker 1: Sunday hang with Clay and Buck.

1049
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:50,279
Speaker 2: I actually really have been impressed of late with Britney Mahomes.

1050
00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 2: Some of you will know Brittany Mahomes because she is

1051
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:58,960
Speaker 2: married to Patrick Mahomes. She has been liking Trump Instagram messages,

1052
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:04,640
Speaker 2: getting rich for it, and unlike almost everybody else, actually saying,

1053
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:07,439
Speaker 2: you know what, I don't care about any of you

1054
00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:10,719
Speaker 2: and what you're saying. I had the team pull this

1055
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:13,360
Speaker 2: because I think it's good life advice in general.

1056
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:14,400
Speaker 1: Let's play it.

1057
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:16,880
Speaker 6: I think the main thing that you know, he always

1058
00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:20,000
Speaker 6: told me is like, stop caring about what people think,

1059
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:22,880
Speaker 6: especially the people that don't even know you. And so

1060
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:25,320
Speaker 6: I think social media used to get to me a lot,

1061
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:28,480
Speaker 6: and now it's just like, honestly, I don't give up

1062
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:31,440
Speaker 6: if he's what people have to say about me anymore.

1063
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:33,160
Speaker 6: And I think he's helped me get to that point

1064
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:34,879
Speaker 6: to where you know, I'm strong and who I am.

1065
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:37,759
Speaker 6: I'm confident in who I am. I'm confident in mine

1066
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:41,120
Speaker 6: and his relationship, and I'm confident in our life. So

1067
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:43,440
Speaker 6: why does you know what other people say have to

1068
00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:44,080
Speaker 6: matter at all?

1069
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:47,200
Speaker 3: Amen? I think that's great advice.

1070
00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:50,520
Speaker 2: Rolling into the weekend, she's owned, she's going to vote

1071
00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:53,080
Speaker 2: for Trump, and she's not going to be concerned about

1072
00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:56,279
Speaker 2: what other people say about you about her. And I

1073
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:58,520
Speaker 2: think this is really good advice for everybody, because in

1074
00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 2: a social media era, everybody in some way can be

1075
00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 2: ripped by people that they don't know. The best advice

1076
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:10,720
Speaker 2: I could ever give anyone is don't take a criticism

1077
00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:15,719
Speaker 2: from anyone you wouldn't take advice from. It's the best

1078
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:18,319
Speaker 2: advice I ever got. I think it's really useful for

1079
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:20,319
Speaker 2: all the kids out there. So as we finish up

1080
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:22,480
Speaker 2: this week and head into the labor a weekend, think

1081
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 2: about that. For your kids and grandkids. They live in

1082
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:29,719
Speaker 2: a social media universe where strangers are giving their opinions

1083
00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:35,560
Speaker 2: to them all the time. Don't take criticism from anyone

1084
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:40,240
Speaker 2: you wouldn't take advice from. It's the best possible advice,

1085
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:44,719
Speaker 2: I think, especially for young people, teenagers, twenty somethings that

1086
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:48,560
Speaker 2: are living primarily on the Internet where strangers react to

1087
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:52,919
Speaker 2: them all the time. Don't allow them to dictate what

1088
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:56,759
Speaker 2: you think about yourself. Don't give them that power. It's

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Speaker 2: a really important lesson. It used to just be for

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Speaker 2: people out there who worked in me, but now that

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Speaker 2: everybody is a public figure, I think it matters so

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Speaker 2: much more.

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Speaker 1: Sundays with Clay and Buck