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Okay, early news today Buck was that Joe 32 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 1: Biden has decided that it's time to fix the Supreme Court. 33 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:33,119 Speaker 1: Oh boy, Now this is weird to use a Democrat 34 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 1: word that they're trying to own. But it's very strange, 35 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:40,680 Speaker 1: and I think calls into point of contention how odd 36 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:45,040 Speaker 1: it is to have a sitting president who is eligible 37 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 1: to run for. 38 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 3: Reelection not running for reelection. 39 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 1: So Biden is just sitting there and he's got five 40 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 1: months ish theoretically left in his term. Basically nothing's going 41 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 1: to get done because he has no political power, he 42 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 1: has no ability to move anything really through Congress, and 43 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 1: he's decided that he's going to try and remedy the 44 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 1: Supreme Court. And it's odd that you would have a 45 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 1: guy who spends fifty years in elected office suddenly decide, 46 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 1: for instance, that Supreme Court justices should only have eighteen 47 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:17,920 Speaker 1: year terms. 48 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:18,920 Speaker 3: He wants there to be. 49 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:23,639 Speaker 1: An amendment to overrule the presidential immunity decision, which I 50 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:26,080 Speaker 1: actually thought was a good decision that has come down 51 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 1: so far from the Supreme Court. It's a pretty radical 52 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 1: proposition that he's endorsed. But it's strange to me, and 53 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 1: I'm curious if it felt the same to you, because 54 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 1: this was my initial thought. If somebody wants to go 55 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 1: after changing the Supreme Court, it should be Kamala Harris, 56 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:45,920 Speaker 1: because she's the person who's actually running for election, and 57 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 1: in theory, if people agree with her on that, then 58 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 1: she could have the ability to try and implement this policy. 59 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:55,919 Speaker 1: But to have Biden arguing it feels awkward and doesn't 60 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 1: make a lot of sense to me. 61 00:02:56,960 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 2: Well, we know that it gets the Democrat basics. 62 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:03,400 Speaker 3: I did, because one of the. 63 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 2: Problems for their get Trump efforts, for example, has been 64 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:10,359 Speaker 2: that the Supreme Court can weigh in and put an 65 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:14,679 Speaker 2: end to the lawlessness. Lawlessness done in the name of law, 66 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 2: which is what the entire campaign against Donald Trump using 67 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 2: prosecutor's offices, including an illegitimate special counsel a not really 68 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 2: duly appointed special counsel in this case, Jack Smith. But 69 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 2: it's also a reminder of a constant truth with Democrats, 70 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 2: which is that an institution that they control in partisan 71 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 2: ways is inviolate, sacred, enduring, and demands and deserves all 72 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 2: of our respect. An institution of any kind, particularly government, though, 73 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 2: that they cannot rely on to give them the desired 74 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 2: partisan outcome needs reform, corrupt needs work, look at the 75 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 2: Ethics Code. This is all just a function of they 76 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 2: know that even if Kamala were to win in this election, 77 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 2: you are likely to have a right of majority Supreme 78 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 2: Court through her term and perhaps for several terms after that. 79 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 2: And they're very bitter about that. And it's also, of 80 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:23,839 Speaker 2: course Trump's most enduring legacy in a sense. They've talked 81 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:27,040 Speaker 2: about court packing. They've taught this has only happened really 82 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:31,159 Speaker 2: in the era of they no longer have a Supreme 83 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 2: Court as a pseudo super legislature for them. 84 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 3: That's all this is. 85 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 1: And isn't it interesting though, that suddenly, when he's resigning 86 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 1: effectively after fifty years, he suddenly comes out in favor 87 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 1: of term limits for Supreme Court justices, but not term 88 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 1: limits for politicians. If I had to choose, and I 89 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:56,040 Speaker 1: bet most of you would agree. I think that lifetime 90 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 1: tenure makes a lot of sense for many judges out 91 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:02,720 Speaker 1: there because in the it keeps them from being bound 92 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 1: by the electoral process, which is in theory what you want, right, 93 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 1: But I would like to have term limits for many 94 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:15,479 Speaker 1: different congressional leaders out there, like, hey, do you really 95 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 1: need more than twelve or eighteen years in the Senate 96 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:21,839 Speaker 1: if you're doing actually really good work. Now I understand 97 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:23,839 Speaker 1: the argument that you're at least at the beck and 98 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:26,920 Speaker 1: call of the voter. The voter can remove you at 99 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:29,600 Speaker 1: some point in time. So Biden had to get elected 100 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:32,280 Speaker 1: fifteen eighteen times, whatever the heck. He had to get 101 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 1: elected over his fifty year ten years. 102 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 2: This also forgets the whole reason why we have lifetime appointments. 103 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:41,040 Speaker 2: But by the way, Supreme Court justices and federal judges, 104 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 2: which is there supposed to be above, above and outside 105 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:49,039 Speaker 2: the political frame. And Biden, because he can't count on 106 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 2: and the Democrats can count on a Supreme court of 107 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 2: activists who make the law up as they go to suit. 108 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:58,479 Speaker 2: Democrat needs in the moment, which is one hundred percent 109 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 2: what was going on with the previous court makeup before 110 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 2: Trump got three picks. You know, you see this and 111 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:08,360 Speaker 2: you say to yourself, it couldn't be any more obvious. 112 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:11,479 Speaker 2: This is just blatant power politics. The Supreme Court isn't 113 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 2: supposed to be a popularity contest every few years or 114 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 2: a few terms or whatever it is. You know, a 115 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 2: Supreme Court justice spent eighteen years in active service. It's interesting. 116 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 2: I think this is also his effort to suggest that 117 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 2: he is part of solving the problem of people who 118 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 2: are too old and won't let it go. Now, you know, 119 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 2: he's flipping the script. Think about that, right, Well, we 120 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 2: can't have Supreme Court justices who are in their eighties. 121 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 2: Clay Joe Biden is leading that charge. Now, look at 122 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 2: how he's switched sides. 123 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I also think it is part and parcel 124 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 1: of unfortunately what's occurred, which is, if you really dislike 125 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 1: a Supreme Court ruling, Congress has the. 126 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 3: Ability to overrule the Supreme Court. 127 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:01,600 Speaker 1: Right, you just have to get a lot of people 128 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 1: by legislative authority by and large to do something. For instance, 129 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:08,720 Speaker 1: if you really hate the Dobbs decision, and you think 130 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 1: the Dobbs decision is the worst thing that's ever happened, 131 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 1: get sixty votes basically, and decide that you're going to 132 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 1: nationalize the abortion issue and take it on from the 133 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 1: political process and take it out of the Supreme Court's hands. 134 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 4: Right. 135 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 1: One of the things that I think a lot of 136 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 1: people have done a poor job of, although I think 137 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 1: a lot of the fear on abortion is down drastically 138 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 1: compared to twenty twenty two. But what the Supreme Court 139 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 1: actually did in Dabbs is the single most democratic thing 140 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 1: they could possibly have done. They gave every state the 141 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 1: right to decide what they think the law should be, 142 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 1: as opposed to nine justices parachuting in and saying what 143 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 1: the law is. 144 00:07:58,480 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 3: Isn't that a great thing? 145 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 5: Truly? 146 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 1: Are democracy defenders, which is what democrats try to claim 147 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 1: that they are. This is the best possible democratic ruling 148 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 1: that a Supreme Court could have ever given you, because 149 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 1: it throws back to the states a question of intense 150 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 1: interest and allows the national debate to take place and 151 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 1: democracy to flourish pro or con on what the law 152 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 1: of the land should be. And yet I think a 153 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 1: lot of people have missed that. I haven't heard Republicans 154 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 1: make that good of an argument. Now, Trump, to his credit, 155 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 1: has said, hey, it's now a state issue, we don't 156 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 1: need to focus on it very much. But I haven't 157 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:37,200 Speaker 1: heard very many people take the next step and say 158 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 1: in actually, if you want to be arguing that you're 159 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:45,679 Speaker 1: defenders of democracy, this is the amazing democratic process. Like 160 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 1: you can go out in any state in America and 161 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:50,560 Speaker 1: decide what you think the law is, advocate for it, 162 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 1: pass laws. It returned the power to the people from 163 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 1: the court. Far from being a usurpation of power from 164 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 1: the Supreme Court, exact opposite. It actually gave the entire 165 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 1: American public the opportunity to make a rational choice as 166 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:06,719 Speaker 1: to what they think the law should be. And I 167 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 1: think that's one reason abortion doesn't have the pop that 168 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 1: I think the Kabla Harrises of the world are hoping 169 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 1: that it will this election. 170 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:17,320 Speaker 2: So, you know, when you talk about having principle, principle 171 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:20,440 Speaker 2: would mean there is something that you recognize that is 172 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 2: in and of itself an important good or goal. And 173 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:28,560 Speaker 2: the problem with Democrats is they don't actually have principles, 174 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 2: They just have power pursuits. So I've mentioned it before, 175 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 2: but there's the great Frank Herbert quote from Children of 176 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 2: Dooon not as good as Doune. From what I understand, 177 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 2: when I am weaker than you, I ask for freedom 178 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 2: because that is according to your principles. When I am 179 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 2: stronger than you, I take away your freedom because that 180 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:49,320 Speaker 2: is according to my principles. That is how democrats operate, 181 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 2: with all institutions of government, with all the apparatus of 182 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:58,680 Speaker 2: power that they have access to. It's always if I'm 183 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 2: winning democrat, see is sacred, and if I'm getting my way, 184 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:06,440 Speaker 2: this institution is to be cherished. If I don't tear 185 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:09,680 Speaker 2: it down, it's bad because there is no adherence to 186 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 2: a principle. The principle being that even if you don't 187 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 2: like something, there's a reason why we have it chosen 188 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 2: this way because people will disagree, and there should be 189 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 2: some system in place that allows for people to have 190 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 2: a say, the people to have a say in their destiny. 191 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 2: They don't really buy they don't really believe it. Look 192 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:30,319 Speaker 2: at Venezuela. I was mentioning it before they all of 193 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 2: a sudden, the Maduro government in Venezuela is saying no 194 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 2: one is allowed to watch the ballot counting going on 195 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:39,840 Speaker 2: in all these different precincts there. 196 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 3: First of all, a lot of people. 197 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 2: Are saying, hmm, interesting, sounds like some stuff that I've 198 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 2: heard of before. Also very clear that when by the way, 199 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 2: I have no doubt that Maduro won the first election, 200 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 2: because you know, according to his principles, when he can win, great, 201 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 2: But I have plenty of reasona believe that he's cheating 202 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 2: in this election because it it's never about the principle. 203 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 2: It is about being in charge and having authority over others. 204 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:07,959 Speaker 2: And Democrats and Maduro are much closer than people want 205 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 2: to believe in the mainstream in this country. Unfortunately, the 206 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:14,200 Speaker 2: only thing stopping us from going full Venezuela is all 207 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 2: the Republicans were saying, stop being such lunatics. 208 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 1: And frankly, a lot of Venezuelan refugees who are now 209 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 1: citizens here and see better than most what can happen 210 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 1: when you actually vote socialists into power. Yeah, I mean, 211 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 1: look at I live in one of the most densely 212 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 1: populated communist refuge areas of the entire nation, which is 213 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 1: South Florida. Historically, clearly, the refugees from Cuba, including some 214 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 1: very mentor of mine. Some very good friends of mine, 215 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:43,359 Speaker 1: one of whom was actually. 216 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 2: At the Bay of Pigs, fought at the Bay of Pigs, 217 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 2: was captured there, and they understand the evil of communism. 218 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 2: Communism was sold as being a great thing in Cuba. 219 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:54,320 Speaker 2: Of course, as it always is, same thing has happened 220 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:57,199 Speaker 2: in Venezuela. Every newscaster in the country loves to talk 221 00:11:57,240 --> 00:11:59,959 Speaker 2: about the one stat we all know about Venezuela large 222 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:03,200 Speaker 2: proven oil reserves in the world. Although it's like heavy crude, 223 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 2: it's not you know, you have to refine it. They 224 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 2: can't even refine the oil they have. That's a whole 225 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 2: other thing. But the truth is that the socialism versus 226 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:16,079 Speaker 2: communism debate isn't worth the semantics. The same dynamics were 227 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 2: at play of envy and promises that would never be 228 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:22,560 Speaker 2: kept in Cuba that were at play in Venezuela. And 229 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:26,080 Speaker 2: now guess what, they're stuck with it because it just 230 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 2: goes back to the core point. It's not about principle 231 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 2: and clay with the Democrat and the Supreme Court. If 232 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:33,560 Speaker 2: they aren't getting their way, there is no principle that 233 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 2: the Supreme Court upholds that is worthwhile it's all about 234 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 2: the outcome, you see, You know what I mean? Now, 235 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 2: it's just and that's the way they always are. 236 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 1: But are you with me that it feels weird to 237 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:47,320 Speaker 1: have Biden trying to make this argument. If somebody wanted 238 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:48,959 Speaker 1: to make the argument, it feels like it should be 239 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:51,959 Speaker 1: Kamala Harris. I don't really know, because we haven't had 240 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:54,839 Speaker 1: a situation like this going all the way back to 241 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:58,679 Speaker 1: nineteen sixty eight where we've had somebody in the presidency 242 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 1: who was not termal limited out that is basically choosing 243 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:06,320 Speaker 1: like LBJ did in theory, choose, but they forced him out. 244 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 1: But like, what does Biden do the next five months? 245 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 2: I think it's prepping the ground for his base to 246 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 2: be very disappointed over Supreme Court decisions that may come 247 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 2: down on the law fair cases against Trump if it 248 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 2: goes there on, if there's election issues or disputes that happen, 249 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:26,560 Speaker 2: you know, if there's an election dispute that makes its 250 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 2: way up to the Supreme Court. This time, Democrats know 251 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 2: that they're not going to be able to count on 252 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 2: it as a rubber stamp for their side, so they 253 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 2: undermine it in advance as part of softening up the 254 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 2: opposition on the battlefield. 255 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 1: Look, I got a way for you to cut your 256 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 1: cell phone bill in half every single month. Verizon AT 257 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 1: and T T Mobile they all want you to believe 258 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 1: you need unlimited data so they can overcharge you. 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Who is going to be Kamala's VP. This 288 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 2: is getting a lot of attention now we know who 289 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 2: Trump's VP is. We start out in the first hour 290 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 2: discussing how suddenly there's all this attention on jd Vance 291 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 2: for being weird, and that's just particularly bizarre. So I 292 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 2: think he's one of the least weird individuals we've seen 293 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 2: in American politics at a high level in a long time. 294 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 2: And I think that the Harris campaign, more so than 295 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 2: the Trump campaign, is hoping that there's something that can 296 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 2: be done with a VP that will deliver a state. Right, 297 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 2: That's that's a big part of this as well. I 298 00:15:57,240 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 2: have to say, Clay, I think it is. I think 299 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 2: it is likely to be either the astronaut or governor 300 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 2: Governor Shapiro of Pennsylvania. Is there anyone else who you 301 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 2: think is really top of the list right now? Still 302 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 2: people have said Basher, you know that guy pretty well. 303 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 2: He's from a neighboring state. I don't think he has 304 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 2: the name recognition, and I think his name is kind 305 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 2: of hard to spell. And I know that sounds ridiculous, 306 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 2: but I feel like he doesn't bring enough to it. 307 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 2: I think, you know, an astronaut from Arizona people get 308 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 2: excited about, and the governor of Pennsylvania. That's just to 309 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 2: win Pennsylvania, that's all. 310 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 1: That is the thing that I think is fascinating about 311 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 1: the calculus is the clear choice should be Shapiro, the 312 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 1: Jewish Democrat governor from Pennsylvania, because there is almost no 313 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 1: map that allows Democrats to win the race without winning Pennsylvania. 314 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 1: Got to win a lot of states, but Pennsylvania basically 315 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 1: is a must have. The challenge is and I guarantee 316 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 1: you that they are doing the math on this. Does 317 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 1: Josh Shapiro, because he's Jewish, turn off much of the 318 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:08,119 Speaker 1: anti Semitic left wing base of the Democrat Party that 319 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:11,880 Speaker 1: is rooted to a certain degree in Michigan, another must 320 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 1: win state, and all Trump has to do is win 321 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 1: one of Michigan, Wisconsin, or Pennsylvania, just one of those states, 322 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 1: and he's going to be president of the United States. 323 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:25,880 Speaker 1: So how does Kamala balance that. It could be that 324 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:29,439 Speaker 1: Mark Kelly is the safe pick in quotation marks, but 325 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 1: I don't think he delivers Arizona, And so I think 326 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 1: she's going to end up with Josh Shapiro because his 327 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 1: state is so much more important. But right now they're 328 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:43,199 Speaker 1: trying to figure out whether she can do that given 329 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 1: the incredible anti semitism inside of the Democrat Party. Buck 330 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 1: isn't that a crazy flaw of the Democrats? Can you 331 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:54,919 Speaker 1: imagine if there were a Republican candidate who made total sense, 332 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:58,160 Speaker 1: but people wouldn't put him on the ticket because. 333 00:17:57,840 --> 00:18:00,159 Speaker 3: He was Jewish? It would be a huge story. 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Welcome 354 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:58,159 Speaker 1: back in Clay, Travis, watch Sexton Show. Appreciate all of 355 00:18:58,200 --> 00:18:59,640 Speaker 1: you hanging out with us. 356 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:00,920 Speaker 3: Buck. 357 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:03,680 Speaker 1: I want to mention this because I tweeted about it. 358 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 3: You know about it. We got at the house. 359 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 1: I just want you to hear it from me because 360 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 1: I don't want there's people who are writing about it now. 361 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 3: We got at the house on Saturday. 362 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:23,879 Speaker 1: A handwritten death threat delivered to the house Minneapolis postage Mark, 363 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 1: if any of you are able to help in any 364 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 1: way with that in the Minneapolis area, I think, I 365 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:35,880 Speaker 1: know we have a big audience there. I know that 366 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 1: there are going to be people doing an investigation into it. 367 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:42,480 Speaker 1: So if you're in that Minneapolis area and you see somebody, 368 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 1: I would love to catch this person. They threatened Buck, 369 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:49,119 Speaker 1: they threatened me, said they were going to kill us 370 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:52,359 Speaker 1: in ten days. A serious thing. Obviously coming to the house. 371 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 1: Kids not very excited, as you can well imagine to 372 00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 1: see police in the house conducting an investigation. The reason 373 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 1: why I bring it up is one, I hope they 374 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:09,919 Speaker 1: catch this guy. But two, I think for all of 375 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:14,200 Speaker 1: you out there, the next one hundred days are going 376 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 1: to be incredibly emotional. There will probably be a lot 377 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 1: of moments where you're very angry, maybe where you're very happy, 378 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:26,119 Speaker 1: but an emotional roller coaster. 379 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:30,120 Speaker 3: Be careful, be careful out there. 380 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 1: I saw this story Buck, I don't think we even 381 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:35,919 Speaker 1: hardly mentioned it up upstate Michigan. Did you see the 382 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 1: guy eighty year old guy is putting a Trump sign 383 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 1: out in his yard and a twenty year old roughly 384 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:48,400 Speaker 1: drove over him, and then the twenty year old ended 385 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 1: up killing himself. I don't think that most of you 386 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 1: think of the Upper Peninsula of Michigan as being the 387 00:20:55,680 --> 00:21:00,719 Speaker 1: kind of place where political passions run so wild that 388 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:03,360 Speaker 1: you would see an elderly man with a sign, whether 389 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 1: it's a Biden sign, a Harris sign, a Trump sign, 390 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:09,200 Speaker 1: whatever it is, and your thought would be, I got 391 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:12,439 Speaker 1: to run this guy over, and you saw what just 392 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:17,359 Speaker 1: happened to Trump. There is a lot I feel a 393 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:19,359 Speaker 1: lot of it is on the left. Let's be clear, 394 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 1: there is a lot of anger out there. There is 395 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 1: a lot of it feels to me boiling point violence 396 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:34,159 Speaker 1: level behavior. And I want every single one of you 397 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:39,399 Speaker 1: that listens to us to do your absolute best to 398 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:43,560 Speaker 1: pledge it that you are going to maintain control of 399 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 1: your faculties, because buck, in the wake of the Trump assassination, 400 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 1: I think many of you were as angry as I was, 401 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 1: as angry as you were. Emotion often doesn't lead to 402 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:57,960 Speaker 1: rational choices, and I just want all of you to 403 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 1: be careful because not only do we want everybody to 404 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:06,400 Speaker 1: be safe and not commit violent crimes, but also understand 405 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 1: that there is this undercurrent. People want to catch you, 406 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 1: People want there is I really believe this, They want 407 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:20,120 Speaker 1: to find Trump supporters who they believe are engaging in violence. 408 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 1: They want you to exist. Don't give them that opportunity. 409 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:25,399 Speaker 3: Be smarter. 410 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:29,760 Speaker 1: And whoever this idiot is, that's writing you know, death threats. 411 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:33,399 Speaker 1: Don't I mean, don't send dad threats to people on 412 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 1: social media. But there's something about a written letter that 413 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 1: is just creepy arriving at the house, like be cognizant 414 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 1: of just basic humanity. I had to tell my nine 415 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:50,159 Speaker 1: year old Buck when the police came a little bit 416 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 1: of a funny moment. He thought that the police were 417 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 1: there because I jaywalk a lot. 418 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:56,359 Speaker 4: You're not. 419 00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:58,120 Speaker 3: That's what I would have thought. 420 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:00,080 Speaker 2: It was my dad's speeding by the way. Yeah, your 421 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 2: dad likes to speed. I made occasionally is literally speed 422 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:05,440 Speaker 2: by the way. That is his middle name. 423 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 1: When uh, when the police officers when they walked into 424 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:13,919 Speaker 1: the house, my nine year old was there and fortunately 425 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:16,199 Speaker 1: we had not had to see police at the house, 426 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:18,680 Speaker 1: and I told him, Hey, you need to go upstairs. 427 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 1: Dad's got to talk to the police officer. And he 428 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 1: came back down later and I was like, hey, do 429 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 1: you know what was going on there? And he said 430 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:29,720 Speaker 1: I was the jaywalking because you're Zoomer. 431 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 3: Super cute of him. 432 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 1: But my wife is regularly on me because she thinks 433 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:36,920 Speaker 1: I'm sending the boys the wrong message. Like if there's 434 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 1: nobody on the street and we're halfway down a block, 435 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:42,200 Speaker 1: like I'll just cross over, and she always says, walk 436 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 1: down to the crosswalk. 437 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 3: You're sending bad messages. So that's so funny. 438 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 2: You're in New York, You're you're expected to not walk 439 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:48,880 Speaker 2: in the cross carus. 440 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 1: And like, my theory is I would rather go when 441 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 1: there's no cars than hope that somebody's going to stop, 442 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 1: especially in this text message era. But that's what he 443 00:23:57,600 --> 00:23:58,920 Speaker 1: thought was going on. But I had to buck. I 444 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:01,119 Speaker 1: had to sit him down and be like, hey, yes, 445 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 1: somebody decided to write a letter to the house and 446 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:05,640 Speaker 1: to say that they want to kill me and you, 447 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 1: by the way, you're a part of the death threat 448 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:13,960 Speaker 1: here in ten days, like and you know they was 449 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 1: upset in the letter. He said, we're upset basically we 450 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 1: missed Trump. He's clearly a crazy person, But I don't 451 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 1: there are a lot of people having to have this conversation, 452 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:23,159 Speaker 1: But to sit with your nine year old and explain 453 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:26,720 Speaker 1: that somebody wants to kill his dad because he doesn't 454 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 1: like what I say on the radio. 455 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 3: I mean, just in your mind. Think. 456 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:35,639 Speaker 1: I always like to say this, would a crazy person 457 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 1: do this? And if the answer is yes, don't do that. 458 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 1: And there are a lot of crazy people out there, 459 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:45,439 Speaker 1: and sometimes it takes that little moment of sanity to 460 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 1: just think, hey, is this something that a crazy person 461 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 1: would do. If the answer is yes, don't do it. 462 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:52,640 Speaker 1: But I feel and I said this to my wife 463 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:54,880 Speaker 1: right after we got it. I said, I'm disappointed, I'm 464 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 1: not surprised, and I think it's going to get so 465 00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 1: much worse for so many people over the next hundred days. 466 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:00,639 Speaker 3: So keep your wits about you. 467 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 2: Also, I would say, And first of all, my thoughts 468 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:06,720 Speaker 2: go to you and Laura. You know that's I don't 469 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:08,399 Speaker 2: I don't have kids yet, And I know that's your 470 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:11,359 Speaker 2: first concern always with with anything involved well that's your 471 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:13,680 Speaker 2: first concern period, but your first concern certainly as well 472 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 2: involving anything safety related. As for what you're saying about, 473 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:23,640 Speaker 2: don't get people don't get, you know, too passionate about 474 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 2: things in a way that they would make bad decisions. 475 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:28,440 Speaker 2: I mean, I've been I remember I was that I 476 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 2: went to an event in New York City. It was 477 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 2: actually a black tie event, and there were lunatics outside 478 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:34,399 Speaker 2: because people like me were going to be there, and 479 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 2: they were like spitting at us and shouting profanity and 480 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 2: everything else. And I just remember thinking at the time, 481 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:40,719 Speaker 2: and this is not new and we're not by the day. 482 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:42,679 Speaker 2: That's not an oh whate was me thing, like whatever, 483 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:45,120 Speaker 2: you know, fighting the communist is going to come with consequences. 484 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:48,920 Speaker 2: We fight intellectually, ideologically, we fight with words and ideas. 485 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:51,160 Speaker 2: But some of them actually want to well they don't 486 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 2: really want to fight. They want to like mob you 487 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 2: and shout at you. 488 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:56,960 Speaker 3: But there's. 489 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 2: I think going to be some very tough times ahead 490 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:05,119 Speaker 2: politically in the country as we get closer to the election. 491 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 2: And I'll just say this, I mean the other side, 492 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:12,720 Speaker 2: it doesn't matter if it's aberrant, meaning it doesn't matter 493 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 2: if if it's so rare. I mean, look at the riots. 494 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:20,639 Speaker 2: For example, they rioted for all of twenty twenty. What 495 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:22,520 Speaker 2: is the riot that we heard about for the next 496 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 2: two years? January sixth, that's it. And that was so 497 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:28,960 Speaker 2: you know, the right, some people on the right had 498 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:33,359 Speaker 2: finally had enough and they they crossed the line and 499 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 2: they broke some They broke some things, and they did 500 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:40,160 Speaker 2: some things that they shouldn't have done. The left did 501 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 2: this with the cheering of Kamala Harrison, the money for 502 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 2: them for all of twenty twenty and it doesn't matter 503 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:52,679 Speaker 2: that it's not fair. They made more. Here is an 504 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:57,720 Speaker 2: uncomfortable truth. The Democrats got more political mileage out of 505 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:01,679 Speaker 2: January sixth, and I'm sorry, but we saw it in 506 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 2: twenty twenty two in the elections. They got more political 507 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:12,199 Speaker 2: mileage than was taken by the Republicans for an entire 508 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 2: summer of rioty correct with billions of dollars of damage 509 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 2: done with you know, hundreds and hundreds of officers assaulted, 510 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 2: with people who were killed, I mean, just madness, and 511 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:31,200 Speaker 2: they did and explicitly threatening to burn down neighborhoods. I mean, 512 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 2: you know this because they were having the wood planking op. 513 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:36,120 Speaker 2: And then what they did for the election, I mean 514 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:40,160 Speaker 2: on the election, they we held an election under national duress. 515 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:42,359 Speaker 2: Because the Left were such a bunch of cry baby 516 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:47,199 Speaker 2: psychopaths all summer long, and because they have the media, 517 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:51,560 Speaker 2: and because the Democrats tend toward hysteria and mass delusion 518 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 2: in general, they were able to use January sixth, one 519 00:27:56,400 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 2: day one protest that got a bit rowdy, and use 520 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:05,440 Speaker 2: that for political gain in a way that really, unfortunately 521 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:08,480 Speaker 2: completely outdid all of what you saw from the twenty 522 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:12,360 Speaker 2: twenty riots of the Democrats, that of BLM. So there's 523 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:14,160 Speaker 2: the other, there's the I'm just saying there's a political 524 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 2: cost to it all too. So anytime anybody on the 525 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:19,399 Speaker 2: right does something, they will act like it is the norm. 526 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:21,280 Speaker 3: That's how they are, that's who they are. 527 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 2: I mean people people now all across the left will 528 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:25,399 Speaker 2: say the right are the ones we're violent. 529 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:27,399 Speaker 3: I'm like, what do you know? 530 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:29,359 Speaker 2: I go good on the list. I'm like, you guys, 531 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 2: you guys are unhappy about something. You want to burn 532 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 2: everything down. You want to you know you want to 533 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:35,439 Speaker 2: you want to pack the Supreme Court. You know you 534 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:37,879 Speaker 2: want to throw out our institutions. You want to punch 535 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:39,760 Speaker 2: police officers in the face and get away with it. 536 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,480 Speaker 2: They just let the people that were assaulting cops outside 537 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:46,480 Speaker 2: of Union station screaming anti Semitic nonsense. Do you know 538 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 2: they just dropped all the charges against them in DC. 539 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:49,160 Speaker 3: I know. 540 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 2: So, so someone has to explain this to me. You know, 541 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:55,360 Speaker 2: you shove a cop on January sixth. You are treated 542 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 2: like and I and really I mean this. You are 543 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 2: treated like somebody who who is a threat to the 544 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:06,680 Speaker 2: national security of the United States. In your incarceration conditions, 545 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 2: you are held in solitary. You are held for eighteen 546 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 2: months or more without trial. Judges say if you were 547 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:17,240 Speaker 2: released again, you might try another insurrection. We're talking about 548 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 2: middle aged folks who got a little too upset about 549 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 2: something and shoved their punched an officer. Nobody killed any cops, 550 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:26,320 Speaker 2: nobody tried to kill any cops. We all know what 551 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:30,240 Speaker 2: the actual footage shows. And then they show us cops 552 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 2: being manhandled, shoved and punched, and it's just like another 553 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 2: day another It's like a Tuesday for Democrats. 554 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:40,400 Speaker 1: And I think what they will do is riot in 555 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 1: Chicago for their convention. We'll see whether it happens. I 556 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:46,720 Speaker 1: think that there will be a lot of kids back 557 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:50,719 Speaker 1: intents in August and September over what's going on in Israel. 558 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 3: We'll see if I'm right. 559 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:55,120 Speaker 1: I think in November they'll put the plywood up again 560 00:29:55,720 --> 00:30:00,640 Speaker 1: and implicitly threaten if Trump wins, we're gonna riot. That 561 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:04,200 Speaker 1: is the threat that they're making, and to your point, 562 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 1: all of you out there need to consider this. They 563 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:11,720 Speaker 1: will because they have prosecuting power in many different places, 564 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:14,600 Speaker 1: and unlike a lot of Republicans, they use it. They 565 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:18,120 Speaker 1: will throw the full book of justice at you, while 566 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:21,240 Speaker 1: many around you may be engaging in far worse behavior 567 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 1: because of you. 568 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:24,120 Speaker 2: And I think we have to be reminded, first of all, 569 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:26,920 Speaker 2: even if we win, it's never done right. It's never 570 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 2: the work is never over the defense of this republic 571 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 2: and of our civilization, and of our values, and of 572 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:35,720 Speaker 2: this country, which, for all of its faults, is still 573 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 2: the greatest and most amazing political experiment in the history 574 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:45,720 Speaker 2: of humankind mankind. Sorry, we're the ones who have to 575 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:46,760 Speaker 2: hold it all together, Clay. 576 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:48,560 Speaker 3: Yes, you know, we can't freak out. 577 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:51,720 Speaker 2: We can't decide to throw up our hands in despair, 578 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:54,320 Speaker 2: and we can't decide to throw out our principles and 579 00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 2: dispense with virtue and the pursuit of trying to achieve 580 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 2: something in the moment that will be ephemeral no matter what, 581 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,520 Speaker 2: you know. So we have to always remember that we're 582 00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:08,960 Speaker 2: the ones that hold this whole thing together, and the 583 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:12,280 Speaker 2: people that shriek and scream and want socialism and communism 584 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:16,440 Speaker 2: and anarchy and Islamism and whatever go down the list. 585 00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:19,520 Speaker 2: They're lucky we're around because we're the ones who keep 586 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:21,600 Speaker 2: this whole thing going. We're the ones who keep it 587 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:24,160 Speaker 2: all together. Aydevinn't have to break it to them. We 588 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:25,080 Speaker 2: are the sanity. 589 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:27,240 Speaker 3: We are the ones. 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Go online to their website spelled 618 00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:50,640 Speaker 2: cchoq dot com, use my name Buck for a massive 619 00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:54,480 Speaker 2: discount on any subscription for life, or text chalk sorry, 620 00:32:54,520 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 2: text fifty chalk three thousand. That's five zero chalk three thousand, 621 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:03,480 Speaker 2: and say Clay and Buck sent me fifty chalk three thousand. 622 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:06,440 Speaker 2: Chucks US based customer service team is ready to talk 623 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 2: to you now. 624 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:12,960 Speaker 5: Saving America one thought at a time and Clay Travis 625 00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:17,000 Speaker 5: and Buck Sexton. Find them on the free iHeartRadio app 626 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,160 Speaker 5: or wherever you get your podcasts. 627 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:21,640 Speaker 2: Welcome back, in here to Clay and Buck. I really 628 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:22,240 Speaker 2: appreciate it. 629 00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:23,760 Speaker 3: Clay really appreciates it. 630 00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:26,440 Speaker 2: All the emails and calls and everything flooding in right 631 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:30,480 Speaker 2: now with your support after Clay told about the the 632 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:32,320 Speaker 2: the death threat. I mean, I'll be honest, because it 633 00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:35,000 Speaker 2: went to Clay and the mail, I think it's much more. 634 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:38,400 Speaker 2: You know, I'm like floating in the wind in Florida somewhere. 635 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:39,600 Speaker 3: So for Clay, it's. 636 00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:42,520 Speaker 1: Well, I think for you and me both, I'm not. Look, 637 00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:44,800 Speaker 1: we've gotten a lot of crazy stuff on social media 638 00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:48,040 Speaker 1: over the years. With what we say. People are not happy. 639 00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:50,280 Speaker 2: So yeah, I get death threats, but it's usually from 640 00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:53,080 Speaker 2: you know, a Twitter account that's like Communists two five, 641 00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:55,920 Speaker 2: Socialist five seven or something, and maybe maybe you. 642 00:33:55,880 --> 00:34:00,240 Speaker 1: Shouldn't do this, But like digital death threats or they 643 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:03,960 Speaker 1: just they don't land the same way as arriving at 644 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:06,320 Speaker 1: your home. I think maybe probably because the digital stuff 645 00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:08,879 Speaker 1: is directly targeted at me, and I just I don't 646 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:10,920 Speaker 1: have a lot of fear in my life, but to 647 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,920 Speaker 1: go to someone's home seems to me to be a 648 00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:17,400 Speaker 1: clear threat at the family as well, which is just 649 00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 1: beyond the pale to me. So I hope they catch 650 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:23,439 Speaker 1: this guy. But I really do think the story here 651 00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:27,960 Speaker 1: is this guy's not alone, especially in this election cycle. 652 00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:32,920 Speaker 1: Don't allow yourself to be in this kind of mindset. Well, look, 653 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:36,160 Speaker 1: I mean, but this is a whole level beyond too write. 654 00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:39,959 Speaker 1: This is someone who's mentally mentally ill probably I mean yeah, 655 00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:42,360 Speaker 1: to write a letter or handwritten letter to threaten people 656 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:44,400 Speaker 1: in the mail. I mean, he said he's gonna come 657 00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:48,880 Speaker 1: after me too. That's that's a level beyond. Kendra writes 658 00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:50,920 Speaker 1: in I'm praying for God to thwart the plans of 659 00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:51,640 Speaker 1: any evildoers. 660 00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:53,439 Speaker 2: Keep your head on a swivel. Guys, love you, Thank 661 00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:57,120 Speaker 2: you very much, Kendra. We appreciate that. Let's take we 662 00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:02,760 Speaker 2: have John in Saint Louis, Missouri. What's going on, John? 663 00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:06,600 Speaker 4: Okay, how you guys doing. I was kind of looking 664 00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:08,880 Speaker 4: at a different angle than I ever heard on this election. 665 00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:15,680 Speaker 4: And you know, Trump wins Georgia, Arizona, Nevada, and Biden 666 00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:20,040 Speaker 4: wins Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania. He winds up with two 667 00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:23,440 Speaker 4: hundred and seventy roads and wins. But there's one little 668 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:26,160 Speaker 4: electoral electoral road in Nebraska. 669 00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:27,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, put it. 670 00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:31,040 Speaker 4: I think they too. But if Trump goes to Nebraska. 671 00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:36,239 Speaker 4: Nobody's that's probably never been a presidential ever to Nebraska. 672 00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:37,920 Speaker 4: He goes out there and makes the case, you want 673 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:39,960 Speaker 4: to vote for a San Francisco Liberal, you want to 674 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:42,839 Speaker 4: vote for me, you can squeeze out that vote. I'm 675 00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:45,399 Speaker 4: not really familiar with the district, but. 676 00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:48,880 Speaker 3: Basically which we have. 677 00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:52,440 Speaker 2: We have kfab out there are fantastic Heritage Radio station, 678 00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:56,040 Speaker 2: but uh uh, you know, there's a lot. There's a 679 00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:57,920 Speaker 2: lot of Democrats in Omaha, is what I'm trying to 680 00:35:57,920 --> 00:35:58,279 Speaker 2: say on. 681 00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:02,240 Speaker 1: His crisier there that he laid out as an important one. 682 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:07,520 Speaker 1: It's not crazy to think that Democrats could lose Arizona, Nevada, 683 00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:08,240 Speaker 1: and Georgia. 684 00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:10,239 Speaker 3: Trump is favored in all three of those right now, 685 00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:11,160 Speaker 3: but if. 686 00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:17,160 Speaker 1: They win Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Michigan and Omaha, Biden would 687 00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:17,840 Speaker 1: win the election. 688 00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:21,279 Speaker 3: So Omaha. This is crazy to think about, Buck because if. 689 00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:23,640 Speaker 1: It's two sixty nine to sixty nine, it goes to 690 00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:27,520 Speaker 1: the House of Representatives and Republicans would win that race. 691 00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:32,319 Speaker 1: So Omaha, Nebraska could decide in that scenario. He just 692 00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:34,600 Speaker 1: laid out the next president of the United States. So 693 00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:38,240 Speaker 1: if you're listening to us in Omaha, that electoral vote. 694 00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:39,800 Speaker 3: It matters in a big way. 695 00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:45,320 Speaker 2: Known for football Cordon Stakes and Berkshire Hathaway and perhaps. 696 00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:48,840 Speaker 1: College World Series, but maybe also the election. What sport 697 00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:49,759 Speaker 1: baseball's play. 698 00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:50,799 Speaker 3: Yeah, that was just there.