Speaker 1: But you know, I guess, I guess this is just
Speaker 1: what do you call that public announcement to Hollywood. I'm
Speaker 1: sure they're listening to me. If you if you need
Speaker 1: a bitch, don't ask me to read for it. Just no,
Speaker 1: I can do it. No, I can deliver. Hi. My
Speaker 1: name is Angela Kinzie and I can bat right and
Speaker 1: left handed.
Speaker 2: You're a distrous that's right.
Speaker 1: So when you need your you know, weekend softball team.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're a writ ye me up. You're a switch hitter.
Speaker 1: I'm a switch hitter.
Speaker 2: I don't think that applies.
Speaker 1: I'm a switch hitter.
Speaker 3: Hello everyone, and welcome to another delightful episode of Off
Speaker 3: the Beat. You are listening to the malifluous, harmonious, the
Speaker 3: dulcet sounds of me, your host, Brian Baumgartner. Guys, I'm
Speaker 3: sorry to disappoint you. I couldn't get a guest for today,
Speaker 3: so I just asked my friend to join me. Her
Speaker 3: name is Angela. I know you probably don't know her.
Speaker 3: She's she's an actor. She's got blonde hair, small frame,
Speaker 3: played an accountant on the show about a paper company.
Speaker 3: And it doesn't matter. She's my friend and we're going
Speaker 3: to have a little chat. Oh oh, you know her. Well,
Speaker 3: if you know her, you're going to love this episode.
Speaker 3: In addition to some office talk, Angela and I are
Speaker 3: going to talk about her childhood in Indonesia, her comedy training,
Speaker 3: her cooking prowess, and of course, her award winning podcast
Speaker 3: Office Ladies, which she hosts with our other friend Jenna Fisher.
Speaker 3: You might not know her, She's all right, you probably
Speaker 3: know her. Without further ado, I am so excited to
Speaker 3: have on my next guest, which needs no introduction, Angela Kinsey.
Speaker 4: Bubble and Squeak. I love it, Bubble and Squeakna, Bubble
Speaker 4: and Squeak. I cook it everymore. Lift over from the
Speaker 4: night people, Happy New Year.
Speaker 2: What's happening, body, what's happening? How are you?
Speaker 1: I'm good? Oh my god, look at you? Green Bay.
Speaker 3: I got the green Bay shirt on today. I've got
Speaker 3: I've got the glasses on. I'm experimenting with glasses. Angela.
Speaker 1: What's the experimentation? Do you need them or not?
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 3: Wow, no, my my brain says, I don't my eyes.
Speaker 3: That's a crazy say I that I do that. It's
Speaker 3: very helpful.
Speaker 1: I remember going to the eye doctor when I was.
Speaker 1: I think I was like forty four, and and I
Speaker 1: was kind of squinting at things, and he goes, how
Speaker 1: old are you about? Like forty six? I was like,
Speaker 1: how dare you? He goes, it's time like clockwork.
Speaker 3: It's so crazy, that's what they say. It's like forty
Speaker 3: six is when it starts.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, I don't know. We'll see. I just got them. Well,
Speaker 3: we'll experiment, we'll try.
Speaker 2: I don't know. It seems unnecessary.
Speaker 3: I mean I'm seeing the office, lots of office ladies,
Speaker 3: things behind you.
Speaker 2: Are you at home? Are you in your studio?
Speaker 1: This is my closet.
Speaker 2: Your closet, I know, I see on the Instagram.
Speaker 1: And they set it up for me. So it's got
Speaker 1: this you know, the soundproofing stuff.
Speaker 3: Me too, see my sound proofing stuff of ownness.
Speaker 1: And then I you know me, Brian, I love a
Speaker 1: little chatchkey level. So if if people send me stuff,
Speaker 1: I hang it on the wall behind me. Basically, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: so send me something, I'll hang it on the wall.
Speaker 3: That's nice of you. You're so nice, Angela. That's what
Speaker 3: everyone says.
Speaker 1: Do they really?
Speaker 2: Yeah, they they do. Can I tell you?
Speaker 1: I am a real like I have really taken a
Speaker 1: turn on small talk. Oh, like a turn like down,
Speaker 1: like I'm not good at it anymore. We were just
Speaker 1: at the.
Speaker 2: Weather is beautiful today, isn't it?
Speaker 4: Is it?
Speaker 1: Are you no stopping it? I feel for your stupid
Speaker 1: small talk. I'm like, wait, is it? I like looked
Speaker 1: out the window.
Speaker 5: No.
Speaker 1: I was at my son's you know, winter concert the
Speaker 1: other night, and this parent was like, how's it going,
Speaker 1: and I, you know, when I blurted out, oh, our minivan,
Speaker 1: I guess something's up with the axle. This is a.
Speaker 2: Parent barely know.
Speaker 1: They looked at me like, why.
Speaker 2: Are you telling me about your mini me? I? I, well,
Speaker 2: you know what's so funny? Not forty five minutes ago.
Speaker 3: I just had a small talk exchange with someone who
Speaker 3: came to my house to do a little work, and
Speaker 3: it was out how to. I don't think he's a
Speaker 3: big fan, so I don't think he's going to hear this.
Speaker 3: You know, it was this, Hey, I heard I was
Speaker 3: coming to your house and you're my friend's favorite character.
Speaker 2: Thank you. I don't really watch television. Are you still
Speaker 2: shooting that show The Office? No?
Speaker 3: No, we no, we're done with that. Yeah, he told
Speaker 3: me about something about chili. Yeah, that was that was me.
Speaker 2: That was me. That was me. So what what are
Speaker 2: you working on now? I mean literally, it just kept
Speaker 2: going and going right in front of the thing.
Speaker 1: At any point in your day, you can have a
Speaker 1: full on interview by some students.
Speaker 2: Right it was. That's how the end.
Speaker 1: Of it usually makes you feel shitty about yourself.
Speaker 2: I know, yeah, that's how it ended.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, anyway, I don't watch television, but I think, oh,
Speaker 3: actually the last thing he said was but I think
Speaker 3: I saw you play poker once. Oh great, yea, yeah,
Speaker 3: that was that was probably me, probably me back in
Speaker 3: twenty twelve. Anyway, Well, here's the thing. Now, I'm good
Speaker 3: to ask you all these kinds of questions. So that's fun,
Speaker 3: really fun.
Speaker 1: It's so fun to interview someone you know and you
Speaker 1: know the answers.
Speaker 5: To well yeah, and so like like like me, I
Speaker 5: feel like everyone knows your story at least, even if
Speaker 5: they don't know you, they know your story.
Speaker 3: They probably saw you play poker once on television. But
Speaker 3: there are a few things my research team did or
Speaker 3: I actually did not fully know.
Speaker 1: They found some nooks and crannies.
Speaker 2: Well I don't even know how Nooki and cranny it is,
Speaker 2: you're gonna get nookied.
Speaker 3: No, there were a couple of things I didn't know.
Speaker 3: I mean, first off, you grew up in Jakarta.
Speaker 1: I did.
Speaker 3: That's a city in Indonesia. I've heard you speak Indonesian
Speaker 3: many times. Bahasa bahassa, Bahasa. Okay, yeah, you speak Bahasa.
Speaker 3: Have you heard this phrase third culture kid?
Speaker 1: Yes? I have.
Speaker 3: So, I mean for those of you who haven't, I'm
Speaker 3: glad you have because I hadn't. Actually what this refers
Speaker 3: to our people that they have this third culture right
Speaker 3: There's so you have your sort of home culture you're
Speaker 3: moved overseas, then you have the culture that you're living
Speaker 3: in there, and those two together kind of make this
Speaker 3: third culture. Does that resonate for you? Do you feel
Speaker 3: like that's how you grew up?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 1: For sure, for sure. You know, we had this young
Speaker 1: gal right in to office Ladies my podcast who was
Speaker 1: also a third culture kid, and you do you you know,
Speaker 1: you're sort of fish out of water everywhere, so you're
Speaker 1: not quite part of the culture where you grew up.
Speaker 1: And then when you go back to what would be
Speaker 1: your home culture, you're don't you don't quite fit in
Speaker 1: there either, And I think it's why a lot of
Speaker 1: kids that went to international schools wherever they are, they're
Speaker 1: all over right. They really bond with each other and
Speaker 1: they stay in touch. My school, Jakarta International School, is
Speaker 1: having their reunion at the end of this month. They
Speaker 1: picked different cities and it's going to be in Los
Speaker 1: Angeles this year. So I'm excited about that.
Speaker 2: Oh, going to go.
Speaker 1: I'm going to go.
Speaker 2: That's super cool.
Speaker 1: I'm super excited. My sister has been to many and
Speaker 1: you just you it's a it's like a club. You're
Speaker 1: not in until you're in it, you know, and then
Speaker 1: it's special to you to sort of connect with other people.
Speaker 1: And the other thing about growing up in another country too,
Speaker 1: when you move back to wherever it was you're from.
Speaker 1: At least for me when I was a kid, because
Speaker 1: I am one hundred years old, so this was the seventies,
Speaker 1: and I lived in Indonesia all through the seventies and
Speaker 1: into the early eighties, and in the mid eighties I
Speaker 1: moved back to the US. And you when you said
Speaker 1: goodbye to people, you just said goodbye. There was no internet,
Speaker 1: there was I'm not I'm going to text you. It
Speaker 1: was snail mail. It was like, oh okay, and then
Speaker 1: you would have a friend or two, like I had
Speaker 1: a friend Kate Livingston in Australia. Kate, Oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: if you hear this, please like, I would love to
Speaker 1: talk to you. We wrote for years and then my
Speaker 1: letters started coming back because I guess they had moved
Speaker 1: and I don't know how to find Kate.
Speaker 3: I don't know where she is Livingston. Reach out to Angela.
Speaker 3: She wants to hear from you.
Speaker 4: Kate.
Speaker 1: Sarah remember and Kate. They're from Australia and Kate, you
Speaker 1: would make front of your sister Sarah because she had freckles,
Speaker 1: and you'd be like, I fly, just shed all of
Speaker 1: you face. Sarah, do you remember?
Speaker 3: I don't remember, but hopefully she does. I would look,
Speaker 3: I want to make a connection. Well, I was going
Speaker 3: to ask you if so it seems like not. So
Speaker 3: there's no one that you're still in contact with. Oh yeah, lots,
Speaker 3: Oh they are, yeah, okay, Kate, not.
Speaker 1: Kate, but my friend Carnsa and I we text all
Speaker 1: the time and share pictures and I have a few
Speaker 1: friends that we used to do a yearly meet up.
Speaker 1: It's kind of harder now because everyone has kids and stuff.
Speaker 1: But it's, you know, such a fond, fond chapter of
Speaker 1: my life.
Speaker 2: Have you been back?
Speaker 1: I have been back in my twenties, but I haven't.
Speaker 1: But then, you know, then we got the office, and
Speaker 1: that was my whole thirties, Brian, my whole thirties.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 1: And you know what when people like see you out
Speaker 1: in the world now, I don't know how is for you,
Speaker 1: but they look at me and they're like, you're not thirty.
Speaker 1: I'm like new, I am met. It's shocking to them.
Speaker 2: It's I know that you don't still look the same.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 3: I yeah, I was, I was. I did not remember
Speaker 3: if you had been back. So it's been since you're
Speaker 3: not since your twenties.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you've been back.
Speaker 1: I want to go back again, but it's you know,
Speaker 1: it's just harder.
Speaker 3: Jakarta has somewhere around seven million people. Yeah, and you
Speaker 3: returned back to the United States and settle. I guess
Speaker 3: I don't know if I thought the word you settle
Speaker 3: in Archer City, Texas, where there's fifteen hundred.
Speaker 2: I think there's.
Speaker 1: Eighteen hundred now, Brian, I think I'm talking about at
Speaker 1: the time, I just drove through in the population sign
Speaker 1: said eighteen hundred and my mom said, oh, that's way off.
Speaker 1: So I don't know, I don't really know where it stands.
Speaker 2: There's more, thinks there's more.
Speaker 1: And there were a few raised eyebrows on the car
Speaker 1: that might not just might disagree. My dad was a
Speaker 1: drilling engineer, but he was from the small town in Texas.
Speaker 1: And when we were transferred back stateside, we were transferred
Speaker 1: to Dallas. Brian Dallas in the eighties was carezy. Wow,
Speaker 1: it was crazy. People were like my first day, my
Speaker 1: first day of school, there was a girl sitting next
Speaker 1: to me. Her name was Bobby Bobb. I this is
Speaker 1: in Dallas because we were there a year. We had
Speaker 1: like a transition year. My dad was before. My dad
Speaker 1: was like, let's get out of Dallas, let's go back
Speaker 1: to the farm. But Bobby had a patch on her eye,
Speaker 1: just one eye. And you know, I was trying to
Speaker 1: make a friend. I'm new and I said, oh, I said,
Speaker 1: do you have pink eye. I'm trying to think what's
Speaker 1: the patch about. And she goes, oh, I got eye
Speaker 1: on her tattoo, my alid and it's infected. And we
Speaker 1: were fourteen I was like, Dallas is like a whole other.
Speaker 3: Animal here, Bobby, if you're listening, reach out to Angela.
Speaker 3: She wants to connect. She wants to connect with you. Bobby,
Speaker 3: b bbe I.
Speaker 1: Bobby was very nice to me.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So, and I'm sure her eye is better.
Speaker 2: It's probably better. Now was this moving? Well?
Speaker 3: So you spend a year in Dallas and Dallas is
Speaker 3: a big city. It's not seven million, certainly not at
Speaker 3: the time, not even close. Talking about that third culture
Speaker 3: kid thing. Now you're back in this culture archer city
Speaker 3: so small? Was this difficult for you?
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. Well, let's let's start with Dallas. Because
Speaker 1: Dallas was my first entry back into the States and
Speaker 1: people didn't know what to do with me. They had
Speaker 1: no idea what box to put me in. I you know,
Speaker 1: a lot of them had never heard of Jakarta, and
Speaker 1: I was also.
Speaker 2: I hadn't either until I met you buy.
Speaker 1: You stop it. I'm like, you stop it. I was
Speaker 1: so Also coming back from my school in Indonesia to
Speaker 1: the US, I was ahead and four subjects, so I
Speaker 1: started my day. Dallas is very very you know, the
Speaker 1: school system is very big. So you have middle school,
Speaker 1: which is just like seventh and eighth grade or seventh,
Speaker 1: eighth and ninth and then you have a high school
Speaker 1: that's like ten, eleven, twelve, And where I was, it
Speaker 1: was a huge school district. So I went to the
Speaker 1: middle school for half the day. Then my mom picked
Speaker 1: me up at lunch. I ate lunch in the car
Speaker 1: with my mom as she drove across town to the
Speaker 1: high school. The high school with ten eleventh and twelfth graders,
Speaker 1: and I finished the day there. So I was never
Speaker 1: at the middle school for after school extracurriculars. I was
Speaker 1: never there for pep rally. I was never there for anything.
Speaker 1: And then at the high school and I wasn't I
Speaker 1: didn't eat lunch with anyone. Ate lunch with my mom
Speaker 1: in the car. That's awful, awful, awful. And now think
Speaker 1: about fourteen year old me. I think I weighed seventy pounds. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I looked I was just a bean pole. And
Speaker 1: also Indonesia, I didn't wear a lot of makeup. I
Speaker 1: didn't do my hair, and this was prime Texas, big hair,
Speaker 1: and I had straight hair, not a lot of makeup,
Speaker 1: you know. And my mom said that, and I remember this,
Speaker 1: I would cry all the way to school, and then
Speaker 1: my mom would drop me off and she would cry
Speaker 1: all the way drive back home. I know a way
Speaker 1: to take a third story to make everybody said it
Speaker 1: was a really, really difficult year. And sure at the
Speaker 1: high school, tenth and eleventh and twelfth graders, there were
Speaker 1: only three of us, three students that were not tenth,
Speaker 1: eleventh and twelfth. It was me and a young fella
Speaker 1: from Pakistan. And then there was a gal and I
Speaker 1: forget where she was from, but you know we were
Speaker 1: all third culture kids.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And you know who was the nicest to me
Speaker 1: at the school. And I never even smoked pot, Brian,
Speaker 1: I don't you know. I don't smoke marijuana. The stoner
Speaker 1: kids were the nicest. They were like they were like
Speaker 1: Jakarta man, sounds cool, can talk. They were the nicest.
Speaker 1: And I would, I would, that's who at the high school.
Speaker 1: That's who would like, chat me up. So shout out
Speaker 1: to nice stoner kids.
Speaker 2: Shout out just nice stoner kids.
Speaker 3: Shout out Pakistani kid, if you're there, please so nice.
Speaker 1: She was so nice to you, I would, yes. And
Speaker 1: then the gal, I didn't know because she was in
Speaker 1: a different program than I was in but I just
Speaker 1: knew of her. I knew there were three of us.
Speaker 1: And then the other thing was then we moved to
Speaker 1: Archer City, and I mean I went from a five
Speaker 1: a public school, you know, that's like the high school
Speaker 1: I was at, and Dallas looks like a community college
Speaker 1: to a to a high school. So I graduated with
Speaker 1: thirty four. Oh my goodness, that's yeah, and talk about
Speaker 1: they didn't know what to make of They were like,
Speaker 1: who is this lady coming in here? And I loved it.
Speaker 1: I ended up loving it. I hit that point where
Speaker 1: I was like, we had moved. I'd moved so many times.
Speaker 1: I was new to two schools in one year, you know,
Speaker 1: because I was new to the middle school and the
Speaker 1: high school. Right by the time I got to Archer City,
Speaker 1: I kind of have what the kids call the zero
Speaker 1: f's about everything, and I think I just went in
Speaker 1: there with that bravado and then it was a blast
Speaker 1: and I loved it.
Speaker 2: Oh that's awesome. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I also am told and I'm asking more in terms
Speaker 3: of you acclimating or getting to know other students. I mean,
Speaker 3: it sounds like Dallas was a disaster anyway, but that
Speaker 3: you didn't have a television, No, until you moved back
Speaker 3: to the States. Yeah, so again, like, well, it's I mean,
Speaker 3: it's still the same today. It may be about video games,
Speaker 3: or it may be about sports, or you know, still
Speaker 3: some entertainment, some of those cultural touchstones that just help you.
Speaker 2: Really. I mean, now you and I know, like there's.
Speaker 3: A whole group of people who are friends because of
Speaker 3: the office, that communicate in the office language, that talk
Speaker 3: about episodes, that quote episodes that you know that that's
Speaker 3: part of their cultural identity. You come back, you don't know,
Speaker 3: not just Sesame Street or mister Rogers, but you know
Speaker 3: shows by the time you're fourteen that your parents are
Speaker 3: watching The Cosby Show or you know, I don't I
Speaker 3: can't date you specifically at that moment. My brain's not
Speaker 3: that good, but I feel like that's what I was watching,
Speaker 3: you know, early on in the eighties. Maybe I'm wrong,
Speaker 3: but you know what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, was that
Speaker 3: difficult for you to sort of make that adjustment? And
Speaker 3: there must have been times when you just didn't know
Speaker 3: what the hell anybody was talking.
Speaker 1: About all the time. Yeah, all the time. I didn't
Speaker 1: know what people were talking about.
Speaker 3: I didn't know the first Bueller's day off. That would
Speaker 3: be one that would have been for me.
Speaker 1: Oh I saw it.
Speaker 2: I saw that.
Speaker 1: I saw that. I thought it was so good. I
Speaker 1: was so excited. I like kind of went on a binge,
Speaker 1: like I would just like watch everything. But I mean
Speaker 1: I didn't know what a soap opera was, and there
Speaker 1: were girls talking about soap operas and talking about, oh, Marlena,
Speaker 1: days of our lives there, and I'm like, who's Marlena?
Speaker 1: What's happening? Sounds like things aren't going so good for hook,
Speaker 1: you know. I'm like, oh, no, there's and John Black,
Speaker 1: he's back. What happened to him? So there was all
Speaker 1: these references I didn't understand for a long time. Still
Speaker 1: every once in a while, well because there's big chapters.
Speaker 1: I had never seen a Brady Bunch episode, never seen one,
Speaker 1: you know. And then also when I started doing improv,
Speaker 1: sometimes I would walk out into a scene and a
Speaker 1: pop cultural reference would come up and I would have
Speaker 1: no idea. Someone said to me, someone said something about
Speaker 1: the green hornet one time, and I was like, I'll
Speaker 1: have another, please like shaken nutstood, thank you very much,
Speaker 1: And everyone was like record scratch and they're like, who
Speaker 1: is this person?
Speaker 2: That's when you just start talking Indonesian. Yeah, that's just.
Speaker 1: Really I know, Mahsakali. It's like, I'm sorry, I didn't know.
Speaker 2: Did your parents speak Indonesian?
Speaker 1: By the way, my mom more than my dad. And
Speaker 1: then my older sister is still very fluent in it. Okay,
Speaker 1: she went back there and lived later in life. So
Speaker 1: and then my sisters and I just have a little
Speaker 1: shorthand where just enough so I speak it better than
Speaker 1: my other two sisters. And so because there's four of us,
Speaker 1: but we have enough of a shorthand that we can
Speaker 1: talk about someone at the mall, you know, like if
Speaker 1: there's a lady at the mall, we can say why
Speaker 1: to leeha. That's how my sisters speak it with a
Speaker 1: Southern accent. They love when I do this impression of them,
Speaker 1: just kidding. They don't, but yes, they put a lot
Speaker 1: of extra vowels.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 3: You and I I'm trying to remember when we have
Speaker 3: told this story, if we've told the story public.
Speaker 1: I have been trying to like brainstorms since you reached
Speaker 1: out and we're like, and you want to come on,
Speaker 1: I'm like, what is he going to bring up? What
Speaker 1: I've been trying to like think, well, I know a
Speaker 1: few I know a few stories.
Speaker 3: Well, we have to bring up the fact that you
Speaker 3: and I had met before we met on the set
Speaker 3: of the Office.
Speaker 1: This is bonkers. This is bonkers. This is how when
Speaker 1: life just like circles back on you. Do you remember
Speaker 1: the day we figured it out? We were on set, Yes,
Speaker 1: and you guys all know me and Brian and Oscar
Speaker 1: I would say, of the whole entire cast, are nook
Speaker 1: back there? I think we spent the most concentrated time together.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, because we were in the corner. We
Speaker 2: were in the corner and we could put baby in
Speaker 2: the corner.
Speaker 1: They put baby in the corner. They put the idiots
Speaker 1: in the corner.
Speaker 2: That's right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we were on set one day. How did it
Speaker 1: come up?
Speaker 3: I don't remember. I mean I think it came up.
Speaker 3: So guys, Uh, Angela went to Baylor.
Speaker 2: For some reason.
Speaker 1: No Sicken bears, Sick and bears.
Speaker 3: No reason. I went to SMU in the aforementioned Dallas,
Speaker 3: which was not the same by the time I got
Speaker 3: there that it was in the eighties. And we started
Speaker 3: talking and she knew some people.
Speaker 1: We started talking about spring breaks, isn't how it came outarted.
Speaker 1: I feel like we were like I said something about
Speaker 1: I am telling you, Brian, we were talking about spring
Speaker 1: break because we were about to go on hiatus, and
Speaker 1: I said something. We were talking about places we'd been,
Speaker 1: and I mentioned that I went to Acapuco in college,
Speaker 1: and you said, I went to talk about we went to.
Speaker 2: In college and ire around and then.
Speaker 1: You said, yeah with with like a bunch of guys
Speaker 1: from SMU. And I said, I met a bunch of
Speaker 1: guys from SMU And You're like, these guys were fight
Speaker 1: outs and I was like they were fight out.
Speaker 3: Yes, I mean, I don't even want to call it
Speaker 3: a relationship. You were hanging out for a brief period
Speaker 3: of time with someone that.
Speaker 1: A little spring break.
Speaker 3: Okay you. I wasn't going to go to any specifics.
Speaker 3: But while we're at it, what exactly happened? No, I'm kidding.
Speaker 1: Oh, it was very innocent, no real but we just
Speaker 1: hung out. We we sort of just like hung out
Speaker 1: for spring break.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And anyway, we found out this is insanity that
Speaker 3: Angela and I not only did we go to Senior
Speaker 3: Frogs together, we were in the same van cave.
Speaker 2: We were in the same car to go to some
Speaker 2: club on the hill. I don't know he has some wee.
Speaker 1: Okay, I met one of you, one of the one
Speaker 1: of your friends. I won't say his name, right, I'm
Speaker 1: still in touch with by the way, still friends.
Speaker 2: Reach out today, don't still friends, still friends.
Speaker 1: He's lovely because you know, Brian, I'm like, once you're
Speaker 1: in my life, you're in my life forever. So I
Speaker 1: hope that if you meet me anyway. So we met
Speaker 1: at the hotel, and then his group of friends I
Speaker 1: guess you weren't with them at that moment invited us
Speaker 1: to dinner to senior Frogs. Yeah, and we all went
Speaker 1: in this van to seen your frogs. You and I
Speaker 1: sat at a dinner table together, except it was like
Speaker 1: a table for like sixteen people.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was enormous and we weren't at.
Speaker 1: The same side table. But then we all piled into
Speaker 1: this van and went to some nightclub. Brian, it blew
Speaker 1: our mindset day because we literally were like, I went
Speaker 1: takapuco I was, I went to see your frogs. They
Speaker 1: were like, what is happening?
Speaker 3: I know, I mean the fact that is so, I mean,
Speaker 3: I don't know I wish there was some like specific
Speaker 3: memory that we could pull back.
Speaker 2: But anyway, we were, I mean, we were.
Speaker 1: In a van and akapugo together. That's pretty amazing. And
Speaker 1: when we discovered this over in the corner of accounting,
Speaker 1: we lost our minds and we got fussed at do
Speaker 1: you remember they were like they were like, hey, we're
Speaker 1: trying to film a TV show over here, Like John
Speaker 1: Krasinski was like, what the heck's going? And then you
Speaker 1: and I are.
Speaker 4: Like, we were in a van.
Speaker 2: We met ten years ago or whatever.
Speaker 3: I mean at that point it had been that long
Speaker 3: that long or longer before. Yeah, yeah, and had never
Speaker 3: run into each other that we know of. I mean,
Speaker 3: we could have been in a van in La too.
Speaker 3: But that is so crazy when so that's a long
Speaker 3: story to say you went to be a long story.
Speaker 1: That's a long story to say though, that we our
Speaker 1: lives keep criss crossing, which I think is.
Speaker 2: Fun that that is true.
Speaker 3: But when you were at Baylor, did you have the
Speaker 3: thought that what you're doing, that this is what you
Speaker 3: wanted to do with your life.
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: No, I wasn't doing what I thought i'd be doing.
Speaker 2: No, I know you were studying English.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was an English major, but I was a
Speaker 1: creative writing major, okay. And I always knew always that
Speaker 1: I wanted to write characters for my self, Okay, So
Speaker 1: that's what I wanted to do. And I my mom
Speaker 1: was very specific that she wanted me to go to
Speaker 1: a private religious college in the state of Texas. This
Speaker 1: is very specific because A.
Speaker 2: Qualifies.
Speaker 1: Okay, But so I am the youngest of four girls,
Speaker 1: and my three older sisters had all gone to college
Speaker 1: and dropped out and then gone back to school and
Speaker 1: got their degrees, and my mom had sort of seen
Speaker 1: how hard that was on them later in life. And
Speaker 1: so my mom was determined that I was not going
Speaker 1: to go to a big state school. I was not
Speaker 1: going to go to a party school. And so she
Speaker 1: like kind of gave me a list. Here's your list
Speaker 1: in Texas, lady, if you want us to help out
Speaker 1: with college. And then and and I went, and I
Speaker 1: toured Baylor. It is beautiful. The campus is beautiful. I
Speaker 1: had such a great time there. I loved him, Brian
Speaker 1: and Baylor is beautiful.
Speaker 2: It's beautiful where Baylor is beautiful.
Speaker 1: Hey, Chip and Joanna Gains are going to come after you.
Speaker 3: Chip, and Joanna come come join me. What was the
Speaker 3: moment for you where you said I'm all in?
Speaker 1: Well? I uh, well, Brian, here here's how it went.
Speaker 1: I graduated from Baylor. I got a job. I was
Speaker 1: offered a job at a publishing house, a little small
Speaker 1: independent publishing company there in Waco. And my dad was like, fantastic,
Speaker 1: and I was like, no, no, no, no, this is
Speaker 1: not I want to perform. And they're like, you want
Speaker 1: to what But of course they knew that. But that
Speaker 1: is not the degree I got. I didn't get a
Speaker 1: degree in drama and theater. So I sort of had
Speaker 1: always had this plan that I would go. I wanted
Speaker 1: to go to New York and I wanted to work
Speaker 1: on a late night talk show. I was obsessed with
Speaker 1: David Letterman. I used to record David Letterman ready for this,
Speaker 1: this is going to date me. I would watch David
Speaker 1: Letterman and I would get remember the tape recorders that
Speaker 1: were like long and flat, like a rectangle, and you
Speaker 1: would hit eject and put the tape line. I would
Speaker 1: hold that up and I would record his opening monologue
Speaker 1: in front of the TV. In front of the TV,
Speaker 1: and I would learn. I would like like practice his
Speaker 1: opening monologue and like study the beats of how he
Speaker 1: would tell it. I was obsessed, and so I graduate
Speaker 1: from Baylor. I don't take the job. I moved back
Speaker 1: in with my parents. O MG. My dad was like,
Speaker 1: what the heck is going home? We just payed for
Speaker 1: you this great education. And I wanted to intern in
Speaker 1: New York. So I had no connections. My family has
Speaker 1: no connections in entertainment. And so I found a phone number.
Speaker 2: Thank god.
Speaker 1: I don't even know how I got this phone number. Literally,
Speaker 1: I think I bought one of those books, you know,
Speaker 1: like a kind of like a Backstage West kind of book,
Speaker 1: and I found all the talk shows and stuff, and
Speaker 1: there there was like a one eight hundred number that
Speaker 1: you could call, like a phone number you could call
Speaker 1: for NBC Rockefeller Center in New York. So you call
Speaker 1: the number, you get the main switchboard, and this woman's like,
Speaker 1: how can I direct you? And I said, I'm calling
Speaker 1: about internships. She's like, great, let me transfer you. And
Speaker 1: then she transfers you and you get this automated message
Speaker 1: that's like leave your name and information, someone will call
Speaker 1: you back. So I called and I did this for
Speaker 1: a few weeks and I would just go to this
Speaker 1: thing and no one would call me back, and I
Speaker 1: was getting so fed up, and my parents were like,
Speaker 1: are you going to get a job? And I'm like,
Speaker 1: oh my god. So then one day I called and
Speaker 1: the woman answers, how may I direct you? And I said,
Speaker 1: I was just talking to a woman in internships and
Speaker 1: I got disconnected and she said, oh, do you mean
Speaker 1: Nancy And I said yes, yes, I mean Nancy really
Speaker 1: and then she was like, let me connect you connects me.
Speaker 1: This woman answers the phone, Hi, this is Nancy. I said, Hi,
Speaker 1: I'm calling about internships. She said how did you get
Speaker 1: this phone number? And I said I lied, I've been
Speaker 1: calling for weeks and I lied, and they transferred me
Speaker 1: to you, and she goes, okay, can you be here Monday?
Speaker 1: And this was like a Thursday. I said I sure can,
Speaker 1: and she was like, great, I have two internships available.
Speaker 1: One is in the news department and one is on
Speaker 1: a new talk show called Conan O'Brien that no one
Speaker 1: had heard of and no one was watching at the time.
Speaker 1: And I said, great, I'll be there. I hang up
Speaker 1: the phone and I'm like at the phone like in
Speaker 1: the kitchen you know with the.
Speaker 2: Longer city and now you have to be in New York.
Speaker 1: Yeah, on a Thursday, and I literally yell, Mom, I'm
Speaker 1: going to New York. I have to go to New York.
Speaker 1: She's like, what are you talking about? And then I
Speaker 1: told her this and she was like, no, she can't
Speaker 1: go to New York. I was like, Mom, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go sell my car. She's like what, and then she's like, Bill,
Speaker 1: get in here, and I was like, this is my dream.
Speaker 1: I was like, I cannot stay here. If I stay here,
Speaker 1: everything you love about me is going to wither. This
Speaker 1: is what I want to do. And so I sold
Speaker 1: my car. Brain my dad got me a car and
Speaker 1: he wanted to teach me responsibilities. He put it in
Speaker 1: my name and I had to pay for everything, you know,
Speaker 1: insurance and whatnot. This was like part of my thing.
Speaker 1: And I sold the car and I used that money
Speaker 1: to move to New York. And my dad one day
Speaker 1: was like, probably shouldn't have put that title in your name.
Speaker 1: But they definitely knew how serious I was. So I
Speaker 1: guess that's a long long answer to tell you. I
Speaker 1: knew I was all in.
Speaker 2: That's amazing.
Speaker 1: I knew I was. I mean when I graduated college,
Speaker 1: I think I was kind of, you know, in college,
Speaker 1: thinking like, yeah, that's what I want to do. Am
Speaker 1: I going to do it or not? And then then
Speaker 1: finally it was push come to shove, and I was like,
Speaker 1: if I'm going to do it, I have to do
Speaker 1: it now.
Speaker 3: I love I love that and you telling your parents
Speaker 3: what you love about me? Will die if I don't.
Speaker 1: I won't be who I am if I don't do this.
Speaker 3: One of the tidbits I did not know, so I've
Speaker 3: I've known forever you were an intern on Con O'Brien.
Speaker 3: I didn't realize that you specifically worked for Max Weinberg.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, again, do you have.
Speaker 2: A relationship with him? No? Currently? No, No, Okay, it
Speaker 2: didn't go so well.
Speaker 1: Well, I don't know. It was just an internship. It's
Speaker 1: just whatever.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: I mean he's he's particular, Okay, but he was totally fine.
Speaker 1: I once again, I stretched the truth a tiny bit, Brian, Okay, Okay,
Speaker 1: I applied.
Speaker 2: I got the in you told me what to s
Speaker 2: m U.
Speaker 1: I got the internship on Connin O'Brien, and I just
Speaker 1: was put into the general intern pool and there were
Speaker 1: writers interns, and the writer's interns got to be in
Speaker 1: the writer's room. There were interns. There was a music
Speaker 1: intern that got to be in the studio. Well, I
Speaker 1: wanted to be, to quote Hamilton, in the room where
Speaker 1: it happened. And the general intern pool was not it.
Speaker 1: You were just constantly going and getting people coffee or
Speaker 1: just running making copies for them, stuff like that. And
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, while I was interning a position
Speaker 1: for Max's intern, the music intern came available, and so
Speaker 1: I went to the executive producer, Jeff Ross, not the
Speaker 1: comedian you guts, this is a different person, different Jeff Ross,
Speaker 1: and I was like, Hey, can I apply for that
Speaker 1: music intern? I'm sure He's like what is this kid doing?
Speaker 1: Because like why, first of all, why is she coming
Speaker 1: into my office? Like I'm the executive producer. Shouldn't she
Speaker 1: go tell the people who run the intern program. And
Speaker 1: so I, you know, went to interview for it, and
Speaker 1: they were like, tell us, you know, what do you
Speaker 1: know about me music? Do youd let me? I was like, everything,
Speaker 1: love music, It's my life. And for anyone that knows
Speaker 1: me knows that I know three words to any song.
Speaker 1: I don't know the full song. I don't know who
Speaker 1: sang it, I don't know what album it's on, I
Speaker 1: don't know the musical instrument I know. I'm like, I'm
Speaker 1: the worst on a road trip. I'm the worst because
Speaker 1: I know five words to the song you like and
Speaker 1: I'm going to get them wrong. And somehow they were
Speaker 1: like okay. And then the first day they were like,
Speaker 1: we need you to go to sir. You know, Max
Speaker 1: wants his drumsticks and he wants this, and there's this,
Speaker 1: and there was a list of all of these instruments
Speaker 1: and things that I had never even heard of, and
Speaker 1: I had to go to this place called sir.
Speaker 2: What's that stand for.
Speaker 1: Studio instrument rentals?
Speaker 2: I think, oh, but I.
Speaker 1: Learned from one band that they didn't think it was
Speaker 1: the best one and they called it shit in road cases.
Speaker 2: It's what I learned.
Speaker 1: But anyway, all of a sudden, I'm getting on and
Speaker 1: I just went into the guy into the office of
Speaker 1: this place, and I had this list and I said, hey,
Speaker 1: I lied to get this internship. I don't know what
Speaker 1: this is.
Speaker 2: Can you help me?
Speaker 1: And it turns out when you're really honest, sometimes people
Speaker 1: are like, yeah, okay, okay.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Oh my gosh. That good for you though, That
Speaker 3: showed initiative. Yeah right, and it got you in the room.
Speaker 1: It got me in the room. And then I got
Speaker 1: to be there when everything was happening that I wanted
Speaker 1: to see, when Conan was practicing his monologue and when
Speaker 1: Andy Richter and him were doing stuff, and it just
Speaker 1: that's where I wanted to be. I wanted to be
Speaker 1: right there.
Speaker 2: I love that. I love that story.
Speaker 1: And and full circle moment. Years later, I got to
Speaker 1: be a guest on Conan O'Brien. That was my first
Speaker 1: real full life circle moment with the band with Max
Speaker 1: that I used to be their intern.
Speaker 2: Did you talk to him when you were there? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was like, hey, yeah, oh my gosh. I
Speaker 1: was so excited. And Jimmy Vavino, who was always so
Speaker 1: nice to me, and La Bamba the guy, the whole
Speaker 1: band was great. Then I got to be on David
Speaker 1: Letterman and I was like, I could not hold a
Speaker 1: thought in my head. I couldn't even reconcile the fact
Speaker 1: that this kid that would stand in front of this
Speaker 1: TV with her tape recorder and record this person I
Speaker 1: was now sitting on the sofa talking to him. I was, Oh,
Speaker 1: my gosh, full circle life moment.
Speaker 2: That's so cool.
Speaker 3: I love that, and that that was what you wanted
Speaker 3: to do, Yeah, to make it better.
Speaker 2: That's incredible. I love that.
Speaker 1: Thanks Bud.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you guys know.
Speaker 3: Angela Kinsey starred as Angela Martin in a television show
Speaker 3: called The Office for ten years, nine seasons.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Really, that's all I had to say about that.
Speaker 3: We've talked to Angela in the past. You could go
Speaker 3: back and hear everything she has to say about The Office.
Speaker 3: I don't really want to talk about that time except
Speaker 3: to ask you a question that I get asked a
Speaker 3: lot post Office. How difficult has it been for you
Speaker 3: to separate yourself from the role of Angela Martin? And
Speaker 3: and is that even important to you at all?
Speaker 1: You mean when I'm going out for other jobs.
Speaker 3: Yeah, for other projects, or just being perceived in terms
Speaker 3: of your work now.
Speaker 1: Well, I definitely had a series of jobs after The
Speaker 1: Office where people just wanted me to be like a
Speaker 1: slight different shade of Angela Martin, just kind of a
Speaker 1: bitchy person, right, And I did have a moment where
Speaker 1: I was like, hey, I have done that for a
Speaker 1: long time, and I'm ready to do something new. And
Speaker 1: I got to do a few really fun characters. I
Speaker 1: loved playing the mom and tall girl.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and tall girl too.
Speaker 1: And tall girl too, she's still tall. I played. That's
Speaker 1: my that's my tagline, my tagline, thank you, it's it was,
Speaker 1: you know. I got to be in all these great
Speaker 1: scenes with Steve's on and the young actors were so
Speaker 1: great too, and so I loved. I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: I can be kind of like a little bit of
Speaker 1: that ditsy, self absorbed mom of a certain age that
Speaker 1: loves her white wine. Just not that different maybe than
Speaker 1: who I am in real life. Closer low closer. So
Speaker 1: I had a good run at doing that too, and
Speaker 1: that was fun. But one of my favorite things recently
Speaker 1: was there was a show coming out and they reached
Speaker 1: out to me about a role and it was a
Speaker 1: producer that's done a lot Brian. You would know, said producer,
Speaker 1: and I've never worked with him before, but they said,
Speaker 1: we would like her to come in an audition for
Speaker 1: the role of this woman who's kind of uptight. She's
Speaker 1: personally she doesn't really have anything nice to say about anyone,
Speaker 1: you know, and I had this moment Brian where I said, no, no,
Speaker 1: here's the thing. I did that, and I did it
Speaker 1: really well for nine years. So if you want that,
Speaker 1: I can give that to you, no problem. So my
Speaker 1: audition is seasons one through nine.
Speaker 2: Of the Job fucking tape. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I was like, I was like, I want you to
Speaker 1: go to at the time Netflix and watch any episode
Speaker 1: of the Office and let me know if I got
Speaker 1: the job.
Speaker 2: Okay, thanks, yeah, good for you, Good for you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I said. I go any And then
Speaker 1: I told my I told my agent. I said, if
Speaker 1: anyone calls and asks me if I will come in
Speaker 1: and read for them to be the bitch, will you
Speaker 1: just forward them a link to the Office seasons one
Speaker 1: through nine. Yeah, thank you. Yeah, I'm done with that.
Speaker 1: And that's I think that's part of being in your fifties.
Speaker 1: There's some things you're just done with. Yeah, I'm done
Speaker 1: with you. I'm done with nonsense. I can play the bend.
Speaker 1: We know this, now do this.
Speaker 2: Yes, and and yeah. That's the thing.
Speaker 3: It's not ego. It's no, it's it's it's not like,
Speaker 3: oh I I Am not going to come and audition
Speaker 3: or read for you. But it's like the conversation that
Speaker 3: I have with with my representatives is basically like, dude,
Speaker 3: they know right now whether they want me or not,
Speaker 3: Like it's it's it's done. Like they don't have to
Speaker 3: hire me. They're they may be looking for a different
Speaker 3: color or a different whatever. But if it's if the
Speaker 3: role is in a specific window that that aligns with
Speaker 3: what I have done or you have done over many
Speaker 3: many years.
Speaker 2: Let's not waste each other's time.
Speaker 1: Let's not waste each other.
Speaker 2: Let's not waste each other's time.
Speaker 1: Exactly. That's what I'm saying. If it is something I've
Speaker 1: never done before, or you haven't seen, or I haven't
Speaker 1: done that particular character, I am so happy to come
Speaker 1: in an audition. I like to work on a scene.
Speaker 1: I like to go in. But you know, I guess,
Speaker 1: I guess this is just what do you call that
Speaker 1: public announcement to Hollywood? I'm sure they're listening to me.
Speaker 1: If you if you need a bitch, don't ask me
Speaker 1: to read for it. Just no, I can do it.
Speaker 1: No I can deliver.
Speaker 3: You mentioned tall girl. Is that your favorite role since
Speaker 3: the office You've had a lot hater's back off.
Speaker 1: Yes, I loved Wives. Oh my gosh, Wives so fun.
Speaker 3: Impress me. I mean, what, what what is your favorite
Speaker 3: or what? How about this? Here's a different What is
Speaker 3: the work that you're the most proud of that you
Speaker 3: have done since the Office?
Speaker 1: Well? You know, I feel like there's moments where you
Speaker 1: just get to really stretch yourself a little. And definitely
Speaker 1: in Hater's back off that character, there was a real
Speaker 1: sadness to her even though it was a comedy, and
Speaker 1: I loved sort of dipping into that and I loved
Speaker 1: I loved tall Girl. And I had this recurring character
Speaker 1: on Fresh Off the Boat that was really fun. But
Speaker 1: recently Pam Adlon reached out to me and said, Hey,
Speaker 1: it's the final season of Better Things and I have
Speaker 1: this little cameo and but I'm going to write you
Speaker 1: this great monologue and will you come do it? And
Speaker 1: I was like sure, And I just wanted I just
Speaker 1: love her and I just wanted to be part of
Speaker 1: her final season and she wrote this moment that I
Speaker 1: feel like. I had people reach out to me about
Speaker 1: this scene. Brian text me like my phone was blowing
Speaker 1: up because it was just so honest. It was this
Speaker 1: mom who is just talking about her son going off
Speaker 1: to college, and she gets a little tipsy, she drinks
Speaker 1: too much sake, and she just kind of has this
Speaker 1: heartfelt monologue and then gets in the car and is trashed.
Speaker 1: Just but it was so tender and then also funny.
Speaker 1: I got to do so many turns, you know, as
Speaker 1: an actor, when you get to do lots of turns,
Speaker 1: And it's one of my favorite things I've done since
Speaker 1: The Office.
Speaker 2: That's awesome. Yeah, I love that.
Speaker 1: Small, small moment I've had. I've had bigger roles in
Speaker 1: other things, but I think it was just one of
Speaker 1: those moments where I'm like, oh, I get to do
Speaker 1: a lot in this one moment, and it's all about me.
Speaker 1: It's you know, the character.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that.
Speaker 3: I saw on the old Gram.
Speaker 2: Uh you got well.
Speaker 3: By the way, Angela Kenzie and Jenna Fisher host a
Speaker 3: podcast one of the largest in all of the land,
Speaker 3: Office Ladies, and I saw on the Gram you are
Speaker 3: entering the final season of rewatching The Office season nine.
Speaker 2: The first thing I saw was New Guys.
Speaker 3: I saw the title and I was like, wait, they're
Speaker 3: doing New Guys.
Speaker 2: That's the last season nine? Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like that's the last that's the last one. I mean,
Speaker 3: it's been obviously an enormous success. How much fun has
Speaker 3: it been for you? Not just working with Jenna so
Speaker 3: closely for so long, and I know how close the
Speaker 3: two of you are, but how much fun has it
Speaker 3: been to connect with so many other people that we
Speaker 3: worked with, and to really, over the span of years
Speaker 3: relive the show.
Speaker 1: It is my favorite thing I've done in my entire career,
Speaker 1: my favorite thing. It eclipses everything, and I you know,
Speaker 1: the Office holds such a special place in my heart,
Speaker 1: right it is. It is my favorite on camera thing.
Speaker 1: You know, you say, what was your favorite role after
Speaker 1: the Office? It's it's it's hard to really have anything
Speaker 1: measure up to the Office. Nothing real, I mean, nothing
Speaker 1: ever really will for me. That was just so special.
Speaker 1: And until we do The Accountants the spinoff, of course, yeah, I.
Speaker 3: Mean when is that? When is that starting? Do we
Speaker 3: have a date yet to start it?
Speaker 1: This is a joke that I know, people that you
Speaker 1: know listen to Office Ladies know that me and Brian
Speaker 1: and Oscar used to regularly pitch that the spinoff would
Speaker 1: be called Los Contades and it would be on Telemundo.
Speaker 1: And and the tagline was oscar ahola ecaban so peacock.
Speaker 1: If you're listening, I would still do the Accountants because
Speaker 1: that would be so fun.
Speaker 2: Yeah, do we have a date yet?
Speaker 1: Though we don't have a date yet. We need to
Speaker 1: set that. We need to get that out in motion. Okay,
Speaker 1: But doing the podcast with Jenna, reconnecting with the cast
Speaker 1: and crew and also with the community of people that
Speaker 1: love The Office, it is just amazing. I'm so humbled
Speaker 1: by it that our show lives on the way it
Speaker 1: does that it brings people together and I love it.
Speaker 1: I love it so much, Brian. It's one of the
Speaker 1: things I'm most proud of.
Speaker 3: How does it feel knowing that you're starting the last
Speaker 3: season and at least in its current form, it will
Speaker 3: be done. You'll have to say goodbye that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So Office Ladies, Jenna and I have decided isn't
Speaker 1: going anywhere. We love doing this so much, so you know,
Speaker 1: when we're done with the rewatch, we do have an
Speaker 1: idea for a fun follow up cast, so a user teaser, teaser,
Speaker 1: a teaser. So we want to stay podcasting. We just
Speaker 1: love it, and I mean it's fine, Brian, isn't it
Speaker 1: You're so good at it. It's so fun.
Speaker 2: I love it. It's fine. It's my favorite part of
Speaker 2: the week.
Speaker 1: Yes, me too, Me too.
Speaker 3: This week because I'm about to do some traveling. I've
Speaker 3: done a lot this week, I'll be honest, but it
Speaker 3: is truly the time getting to talk with old friends
Speaker 3: like you, and I mean the fact that we've known
Speaker 3: each other for a long time.
Speaker 2: I'm not calling you old.
Speaker 1: It's okay.
Speaker 2: I'm fifty two and meeting and meeting new people.
Speaker 3: I mean, I I just yeah, I love it. I
Speaker 3: love it. I love it too.
Speaker 1: Brian Cranston just came in the studio with us, and
Speaker 1: I mean Brian, I hung on his every word. He
Speaker 1: literally is someone who could read the phone book like
Speaker 1: just the way he talks. And he ended up asking
Speaker 1: us questions and I was like, wait, Jen, I think
Speaker 1: you just interviewed us. It was just so interesting. But
Speaker 1: like you said, I was like, gosh, just to have
Speaker 1: you know, an hour and a half with Steve Correll
Speaker 1: or you know. Oh, we talked to Kelly Cantley, and
Speaker 1: I know you have to just the people. Kelly was
Speaker 1: the ad on the office, assistant director and just people
Speaker 1: were so dear to us and special and to be
Speaker 1: able to just sit and chat with them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a gift. Are you going to be sad though?
Speaker 3: When the rewatch is done?
Speaker 1: I will be.
Speaker 2: I will be.
Speaker 1: I've really loved rewatching the show. I hadn't seen the
Speaker 1: show all the way through since it aired. There are
Speaker 1: many episodes that we're watching, really and truly I haven't
Speaker 1: seen since that first week when it was on Remember
Speaker 1: Appointment television on Thursday nights on NBC. So I am
Speaker 1: going to be sad. But I told Jenna, I was like,
Speaker 1: maybe we'll just rewatch the whole thing again. That is
Speaker 1: not our spin off podcast, but that's.
Speaker 2: The way to keep it going.
Speaker 1: But I actually actually instead of like like toll Girl too,
Speaker 1: it's like office ladies, still watching, Watch still watching. But
Speaker 1: I told her, I'm serious. I think now that the podcast,
Speaker 1: like we've rewatched it all, I kind of want to
Speaker 1: just go back and rewatch it now for me, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Right, just as an audience.
Speaker 3: Now, I haven't asked you this either, are you? And
Speaker 3: now obviously you know for scheduling and all of that,
Speaker 3: you I'm sure there are times where you're maybe recording
Speaker 3: more than one in a week or you know you're
Speaker 3: you're ahead of obviously when it airs spoiler alert. That's
Speaker 3: how it works. Yes, what's your process like? Are you
Speaker 3: watching it weekly? Typically? Like one episode?
Speaker 1: Okay, here's here's my work week ready, okay, okay, So
Speaker 1: we record on Thursdays, right, and then my work week.
Speaker 1: Then it sort of starts again after Theday. So Thursday's
Speaker 1: like my Friday, guys, and then on Friday, what I
Speaker 1: do is I watch the next week's episode.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's what I'm asking.
Speaker 1: Okay, So I watch it first time on Friday. Then
Speaker 1: on Sunday, I watch all the bloopers any like bonus scenes,
Speaker 1: and I also have the shooting drafts, so then I
Speaker 1: will on Monday, I read the shooting draft and I
Speaker 1: look to see, like what stayed in what didn't. I'll
Speaker 1: look to see what kind of they call them the
Speaker 1: candy bag alts. We talk about this on Office Ladies.
Speaker 1: Those were all the like extra stuff we might read
Speaker 1: for a talking head, the monologues we would do. Then
Speaker 1: Jenna and I decide who do we want to reach
Speaker 1: out to. Okay, Brian directed it. I'm going to reach
Speaker 1: out to Brian because I have a few questions about
Speaker 1: this one scene, and then maybe she reaches out to
Speaker 1: a cast member. Then we look to see any articles
Speaker 1: written about the show at the time. I look through
Speaker 1: all my old emails to see if we were trading
Speaker 1: emails about something at the time. I look through old photos.
Speaker 1: We just we really dig deep into it and try
Speaker 1: to find all the layers about that episode. And then
Speaker 1: on Tuesday or Wednesday, I'll watch it again all the
Speaker 1: way through, because now I have all this information, so
Speaker 1: I'll watch it again to see if I missed anything,
Speaker 1: if there's any background catch, if there was a fan question,
Speaker 1: and then we record on Thursday. So typically I watch
Speaker 1: an episode of The Office three times, the same episode.
Speaker 2: So you watch it how it aired. I watch it
Speaker 2: how it.
Speaker 1: Aired with no information. I just watch it just to
Speaker 1: watch it, watch it, and then I watch it after
Speaker 1: looking at the shooting draft. Yeah, our bloopers are deleted
Speaker 1: scenes things like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's great, I mean that's that's that's going to
Speaker 3: be a lot that you're going to miss. Then yeah
Speaker 3: in a short few yeah week slash months.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, and then the other thing too that's interesting to
Speaker 1: me is that you know, I'll watch an episode that
Speaker 1: we prep three times, but a fan has seen the
Speaker 1: episode seventeen times. You know, everybody knows the show way
Speaker 1: better than we'll ever know it, Ryan, even with all
Speaker 1: of our like unturning, like different behind the scenes information. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but the actual episode, no one will ever know it
Speaker 1: better than the true Office fan.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so funny. He just reminded me.
Speaker 3: And I can't remember how many times it was, but
Speaker 3: I had the opportunity to interview Billie Eilish and I
Speaker 3: know you've talked to her and I whatever it was,
Speaker 3: I posted about it online like she's watched it fourteen times.
Speaker 3: It was fourteen or seventeen or something like that.
Speaker 1: It's like thirty something probably.
Speaker 2: And no, that was her. That was her number.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah.
Speaker 3: And in all of the comments, all it was was
Speaker 3: people making fun of her because she hadn't seen it enough.
Speaker 3: Oh my goss, god, oh my gosh.
Speaker 2: Guys, back off, guys, come wow.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because she knows it so well.
Speaker 2: She knows it very well. Yeah, she knows it very well.
Speaker 1: We did a like a quiz with her when she
Speaker 1: was on Office Ladies, and she just skunked me and Jenna.
Speaker 1: I mean, she skunked Jenna. I came in.
Speaker 2: Second, rame in second.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Rain would come significantly behind Jenna.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you that Rain is hilarious. Whenever we reach
Speaker 1: out to him about an episode, we're like, hey, Rain,
Speaker 1: this is an episode. You know Dwight had a really
Speaker 1: big story arc in. What do you think about this?
Speaker 1: You'd be like, Oh, yeah, I don't I don't know,
Speaker 1: I don't remember.
Speaker 2: I know, I know, I know, I know, I remember.
Speaker 3: I talked to him and it was like within six minutes,
Speaker 3: and I think he and I talked for almost two
Speaker 3: and a half hours. Within six minutes, I had all
Speaker 3: my pages, I had all this prep done, and my
Speaker 3: brain went only macro questions, no micro quet like, no,
Speaker 3: no specifics. Uh huh no, Yeah, it's yeah. Good for him.
Speaker 1: That was very Southern. That was kind of like, bless
Speaker 1: his heart.
Speaker 2: Bless is heard, good him, bless his heart.
Speaker 3: I have a new scoop to deliver to the world today.
Speaker 3: Unless someone wrote a press release today, Uh, you and
Speaker 3: your amazing husband Josh Snyder just sold.
Speaker 2: The cook book. Congratulations, thank you. What is it? What
Speaker 2: is it about?
Speaker 1: Okay, So we have been wanting to do a cookbook
Speaker 1: together for a long time. You know, I do that
Speaker 1: amazing baker. You know this. You've been on our YouTube
Speaker 1: series Begging with Josh Nan.
Speaker 2: Yes, both baking and cooking, just baking.
Speaker 1: Oh well, yeah, you're right.
Speaker 2: We did Cooke, didn't we We made chili once.
Speaker 1: We made chili once. Yeah. So Josh has a ton
Speaker 1: of recipes. He's a food blogger and he's awesome, and
Speaker 1: we have our family favorites and our kids' favorites, and
Speaker 1: we just really wanted to finally put all of our
Speaker 1: favorite recipes and cookbook that we can share. And I'm
Speaker 1: just so excited even just for our kids to have it.
Speaker 1: So it's gonna be recipes plus little stories, slice of
Speaker 1: life photos and stuff like that, and we're super super
Speaker 1: excited about it.
Speaker 3: It's basically like Josh and Ange's family favorites.
Speaker 1: Yes, family favorite. That is not the title. I can't
Speaker 1: release the title yet. Oh we're gonna have a big reveal.
Speaker 3: Okay, I understand that. But that's but that's amazing. I
Speaker 3: love that idea.
Speaker 1: Thank you. Well, you've done two cookbooks so.
Speaker 2: Well one I'm in the I'm in the middle of it.
Speaker 3: No, I mean it's yes, I have the barbecue cookbook
Speaker 3: that's coming out in a few months here, the Chili
Speaker 3: cook book.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's work. It's a lot to get
Speaker 2: it all together.
Speaker 1: You know. Right before I hopped on the podcast with you,
Speaker 1: we had a phone call with our publisher and she
Speaker 1: was going through the dates that we have to turn
Speaker 1: things in and this, and I I could see Josh
Speaker 1: doing that thing he does where when Like, for example,
Speaker 1: we were in Scotland and we asked directions and this
Speaker 1: guy talked for about ten minutes to us, and I
Speaker 1: could tell Josh didn't know a single word he said.
Speaker 1: He he gets this look in his eyes of like
Speaker 1: uh huh huh. And so I mean he's very excited
Speaker 1: about it. But like as we were listing things off,
Speaker 1: I could see he was like, oh this this is
Speaker 1: gonna okay and when when? And oh that's a lot okay.
Speaker 1: So it's a ton of work. As you know, Jenna
Speaker 1: and I's book, The Office BFFs. It took us three
Speaker 1: years and seven months to write that book. Now, if
Speaker 1: we did start writing it, we started writing it during
Speaker 1: the pandemic, to be fair, and all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: what I'm teaching, you know, fourth grade science. Are you
Speaker 1: kidding me? Like we're homeschooling? Like I get a list,
Speaker 1: I got it, I need a beaker and some string,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, what am I doing? And I also
Speaker 1: have to go write a book? Yeah, Brian, I should
Speaker 1: say that, just so you know. We did. We did
Speaker 1: tease it on the podcast on Office Ladies and that
Speaker 1: came out last week. So I don't you're not we
Speaker 1: don't care.
Speaker 2: Okay, listen if I say it's breaking news.
Speaker 1: It's breaking news, it's breaking news. Okay, that's fine. I
Speaker 1: just wanted you.
Speaker 2: To know it's okay. No, it's totally fine.
Speaker 3: I uh am so happy for your success. I'm so
Speaker 3: happy that you're happy. More than anything, I'm happy that
Speaker 3: you're happy and that you're enjoying it so much and
Speaker 3: you're giving such joy to so many people.
Speaker 2: I'm uh, I'm just frying. No, I'm just so happy
Speaker 2: for you.
Speaker 1: That makes that makes makes me. It's so sweet. I
Speaker 1: just love you so much, Brian. We we weathered a
Speaker 1: lot together over in that corner, and a lot of
Speaker 1: laugh Oh my gosh, a lot of life happens in
Speaker 1: nine years, and you were always there for me. You
Speaker 1: were always there for me. And I just I just
Speaker 1: adore you well.
Speaker 3: I love you too, and I so appreciate you coming
Speaker 3: on celebrating the Office Ladies beginning season.
Speaker 2: Nine, the final season. It is, as they call it,
Speaker 2: it's the final countdown.
Speaker 1: It's the final countdown.
Speaker 2: Good luck.
Speaker 3: I can't wait to hear where the show's gonna go.
Speaker 3: Yeah from there.
Speaker 1: We're very excited. We are super excited about it, and
Speaker 1: we so appreciate our Office Lady's family, and we we
Speaker 1: want to just keep doing it, keep doing it.
Speaker 3: Well, I'm I'm really glad you are, And good luck
Speaker 3: on the cookbook. If you need any if you need
Speaker 3: any to I mean basically, all I.
Speaker 2: Told you was it's not easy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I might need might be more guidance than that.
Speaker 2: Find all right, I'll give you here. Here's here. Here's
Speaker 2: my here's my biggest best piece of advice. This is
Speaker 2: writing for writing a cookbook. Okay, find someone early to
Speaker 2: do the forward.
Speaker 1: Oh that's so smart, Brian, I hadn't even thought about
Speaker 1: the forward.
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 1: Okay, good good.
Speaker 3: Find somebody early to do the forward. Okay, they'll appreciate it.
Speaker 3: And and yeah, because that's the one, because you're like
Speaker 3: they give you know, if somebody gives you a deadline,
Speaker 3: you have to do it. If somebody gives a theoretical
Speaker 3: deadline for a thing that isn't quite figured out yet.
Speaker 1: Oh oh yeah, that's good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well listen.
Speaker 1: I loved being on here chatting with you. I'll come
Speaker 1: back anytime because you're one of my favorite people on
Speaker 1: the whole planet. And you guys out there listening, be
Speaker 1: sure to write Peacock, give him a call, let him
Speaker 1: know you'd like to see the accountants los oscar Ahlai Caban.
Speaker 2: There you go. Angela Kenzie, thank you so much.
Speaker 1: Thank you, love you too.
Speaker 2: I'll talk to you soon, Okay.
Speaker 3: Angela, I love you. Thank you so much for taking
Speaker 3: some time with me today. Good luck finishing off the
Speaker 3: rewatch of the Office and listeners. If you want to
Speaker 3: hear us talk more, well, then you can go back
Speaker 3: listen to Angela's episode on this podcast specifically about the office,
Speaker 3: or you can go to Office Ladies listen to the
Speaker 3: episode I was Casual Friday and many more.
Speaker 2: Thanks for tuning in.
Speaker 3: I will see you again right here, not this week again,
Speaker 3: but next week, so make this one a good one.
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