1 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 1: And a happy Thursday to you when yours. He's Andrew Gribble, 2 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 1: I'm Jason Gibbs, and we welcome you to the debut 3 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 1: of the b P, a podcast otherwise known as the 4 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:24,239 Speaker 1: best podcast available. It's the first of eleven episodes as 5 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:26,159 Speaker 1: we count you down and get you ready for the 6 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 1: two thousand nine NFL Draft coming up. On today's episode, 7 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 1: NFL Networks Charles Davis joins us to preview the NFL combine. 8 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:36,519 Speaker 1: We play a little factor fiction with the Z that 9 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 1: stands for Zigura, and we take a look at the 10 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 1: latest mock drafts and so much more. But first off, Gribbs, 11 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 1: it's officially draft season, and it feels a little strange 12 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 1: here in Bourria because well, we don't have the top 13 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 1: pick in this year's draft and we have our quarterback. Yeah, 14 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 1: you know, this is uh an interesting time to introduce 15 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:58,279 Speaker 1: a draft podcast because in years past, you know, this 16 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 1: was especially last year. You're talking about the Browns entering 17 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 1: the draft at the number one pick, the number four pick, 18 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:06,959 Speaker 1: and and all sorts of ammunition and and assets in 19 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 1: those first couple of rounds, and it really did kind 20 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 1: of set set this team up for great success in 21 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 1: the following years. Now, you know, the Browns are right 22 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:18,479 Speaker 1: in the middle at number seventeen with with this year's draft, 23 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 1: and as as low as this team has been in 24 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 1: the draft pre trades, they've drafted lower than seventeen after 25 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 1: a series of trades, unfortunate trades typically that have brought 26 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 1: them down to that level, but as low as they've 27 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:34,919 Speaker 1: been in years going into a draft, but you also 28 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 1: do have a decent amount of picks with ten picks, uh, 29 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 1: the most notable extra pick being that Patriots third rounder, 30 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:44,759 Speaker 1: which happens to be near the end of the third 31 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 1: round now. But having that kind of artillery, it might 32 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 1: not be ten picks by the time we get to 33 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 1: the draft. I think John Dorsey can make some some 34 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 1: moves here to potentially add more talent to this team. 35 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 1: But a year you go into a draft of ten picks, 36 00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 1: that's a draft you should be excited about, especially when 37 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 1: you have the general manager with the track record that 38 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 1: John Dorsey has. It is definitely exciting. It will be 39 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 1: a little different Browns fans are used to, I think 40 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 1: going to bed before we will actually pick this year, 41 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 1: unless we trade up or whatever the case might be. 42 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 1: But you know, It's still one of those opportunities where 43 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 1: you take a look and it's your opportunity to draft 44 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 1: the player, get them for four or five years, develop 45 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 1: them into what you want them to be, and hopefully 46 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 1: you're taking that next step and making a run at 47 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 1: the playoffs. Here, lets is very different in the regard 48 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:37,799 Speaker 1: that not only are you drafting lower and the quality 49 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:39,920 Speaker 1: of players going to go down, but you look at 50 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 1: the last two drafts, you essentially controlled who you were 51 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 1: getting in that first round each of the last two 52 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 1: years because uh, two thousand seventeen obviously had the first pick, 53 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 1: you got the best player you wanted, Myles Garrett. Last 54 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:54,640 Speaker 1: year you had the first pick, you got Baker Mayfield. 55 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:57,679 Speaker 1: On top of that, you had the fourth pick you 56 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 1: and you used it on a player that going into 57 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 1: the draft you're probably sure was not going to be 58 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 1: taken before you draft at number four and Denzel Ward, 59 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 1: I mean you had a he had a good feeling 60 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:10,080 Speaker 1: he was going to be around there. But now at 61 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 1: number seventeen, in a draft that is light on quarterback talent, uh, 62 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 1: and a lot of teams ahead of you with very 63 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 1: similar needs, I think we're gonna be watching the activities 64 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 1: of other teams, maybe more so than we have in 65 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 1: years past, because because ultimately you can you can have 66 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 1: your board, but you can ultimately miss out on the 67 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:30,359 Speaker 1: guy you really wanted something because the team in front 68 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 1: of you took him. They like to call it best 69 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 1: player available. We like to call it the best podcast available. 70 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 1: But those words best player available may never ring more 71 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 1: true than this year in the draft of the Brons. Yeah, 72 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 1: unless it's a quarterback. I mean, that's the one position 73 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 1: you can officially eliminate in the first round for this team. 74 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 1: I do think, I do, I do think a quarterback 75 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 1: will be taken by the end of this draft. It's 76 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 1: just not gonna happen in the first round. And but 77 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 1: but you should keep an eye on the quarterbacks for 78 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 1: this reason, and that is the more teams that go 79 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 1: after quarterbacks, the more teams that trade up for quarterbacks, 80 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 1: like you saw last year with four quarterbacks going and 81 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 1: before number seventeen and another one going later in the draft. 82 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 1: The more quarterbacks that go ahead of seventeen, the better 83 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 1: quality of player that the Browns are gonna get at 84 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 1: number seventeen, because odds are those quarterbacks are not as 85 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:21,839 Speaker 1: talented of overall players as some of these guys that 86 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 1: are gonna slip down to number seventeen, like just reference 87 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 1: and you look at Todd mcshay's mock draft last week. 88 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 1: He puts a guy like Christian Wilkins to the Browns 89 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:32,919 Speaker 1: at seventeen, but he says in his kind of bullet points, 90 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 1: this guy is a top ten to twelve player in 91 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 1: this year's draft. I mean that's a result of teams 92 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 1: drafting quarterbacks because they need quarterbacks, not because they're the 93 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 1: best player available. Yeah, no question about it. And we'll 94 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 1: get into some of those mock drafts coming up a 95 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 1: little bit later on a lot of quarterback talk. Indeed, 96 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 1: let's get started first and foremost with the latest news 97 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 1: this week when it comes to the two thousand and 98 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 1: nineteen NFL Draft, and the very first story concerns a 99 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 1: guy that to some people were mocking to the Browns 100 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 1: in those famous mock drafts that we will get to. 101 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:09,160 Speaker 1: Former Mississippi State defensive lineman Jeffrey Simmons, a projected first 102 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:12,040 Speaker 1: round pick in the NFL Draft, suffered a knee injury 103 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 1: during a training exercise that we believe now is a 104 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:18,600 Speaker 1: torn a c L. Simmons rated as the number twelve 105 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 1: overall draft prospect in the latest Big Board from ESPN's 106 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 1: mel Kiper. Here's a guy that had a lot of sizzle, 107 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 1: wasn't allowed to go to the Combine, had a lot 108 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:31,919 Speaker 1: of news around him, and now who knows what happens 109 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 1: here with his stock. Yeah, I mean, it's probably too 110 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 1: early to say this, but you would think that this 111 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 1: knocks him out of the first round. I think that's 112 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 1: a safe bet. Maybe because he wasn't gonna be a 113 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:45,479 Speaker 1: guaranteed top ten pick to begin with, the attack on 114 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 1: the high school issue that was gonna maybe uh give 115 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:51,279 Speaker 1: some teams some reluctancy at the same time, and also 116 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 1: the timing of this injury. It essentially wipes out the 117 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 1: two thousand nineteen season for this player. Maybe you get him, 118 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:00,719 Speaker 1: maybe you put him on that I R designator Attorne, 119 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:03,159 Speaker 1: you get him back for the last six five games, 120 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:04,719 Speaker 1: but even then you might just want to hold off 121 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 1: and put him on ice for the remainder of the season. 122 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 1: I went back and looked up a player who this 123 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 1: maybe had a similar circumstance, and this happened a couple 124 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 1: of years ago in the draft. Uh. I know, the 125 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 1: easy one would be Jalen Smith. But that guy was 126 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 1: a top five player period, with no other issues, no 127 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:24,599 Speaker 1: off field She's a great guy. I'm not saying Jefferys 128 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 1: Simmons isn't a great guy, but had no character concerns. 129 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 1: The guy that says this reminded me of was Sydney Jones, 130 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 1: the defensive back from Washington projected consistently in the mid 131 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 1: first round going into the draft. He tears his achilles 132 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:40,359 Speaker 1: at his pro day, which is a more serious injury 133 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 1: than an a c L, especially for the cornerback position, 134 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 1: but he still went fort in the draft, which would 135 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:49,839 Speaker 1: be higher than where the Browns are picking at in 136 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:54,040 Speaker 1: the second round. So that to me seems like the 137 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 1: ballpark for Jeffrey Simmons. If this is just a standard 138 00:06:57,800 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 1: a c L there because he is a super talented 139 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 1: there at a very important position for a lot of 140 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 1: teams where there really you really don't there's more teams 141 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:08,040 Speaker 1: that need players like Jeffrey Simmons, and there are teams 142 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 1: that need quarterbacks right now. He is a very talented 143 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 1: player who fits in all types of schemes and would 144 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 1: help anyone. So I would expect a second round if 145 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 1: all this kind of holds true and there's no other 146 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 1: further developments. Lanzerline, friend of show from the NFL Network, 147 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 1: has reportedly talked to about four or five front office 148 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 1: people that said, for sure, he's falling out of the 149 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 1: first round, but probably not falling out of the second round. 150 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 1: So that would lend credence to go in fort three 151 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 1: or somewhere somewhere in that mid to upper second round. 152 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 1: But if you're the Browns, can you really afford to 153 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 1: take a guy that isn't going to play for a 154 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 1: whole year. Yeah, I mean that's where that's when you 155 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 1: look at teams like if he were someone that fell 156 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 1: into the third round. That's especially for the Browns. When 157 00:07:57,320 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 1: you have multiple picks in that in that round, then 158 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 1: you you then I see using a pick on that 159 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 1: kind of guy the team I look out for when 160 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 1: it comes to Simmons. And this would actually go against 161 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 1: what I just said about the second round. As I 162 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 1: look at the Raiders, I mean they've got three first 163 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 1: round picks, the last two are at the bottom of 164 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 1: that first round because they made trades with teams that 165 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 1: turned out to be really good, and so they are 166 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 1: in obviously a big rebuilt. They don't necessarily think they're 167 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 1: gonna probably compete for much in two thousand nineteen. I mean, 168 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 1: maybe they use one of those late first round picks 169 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:33,079 Speaker 1: or their early second round pick, which they obviously have 170 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 1: as well, so that they're they're another team that you 171 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 1: could see. It's you gotta look at these teams of picks, 172 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:41,959 Speaker 1: not necessarily to burn, but they're kind of these gravy 173 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:44,320 Speaker 1: picks that these teams have acquired and you're not really 174 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 1: relying on them to contribute right away. Tough luck there 175 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 1: for Jeffrey Simmons. We wish him well and hopefully a 176 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:52,840 Speaker 1: quick recovery. You never want to see a kid before 177 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:58,439 Speaker 1: realizing his dreams have the ultimate injury that sidelines in 178 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 1: and you know, hopefully it doesn't to toward the young 179 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:04,559 Speaker 1: man's career. The other news of the week, Kyler Murray 180 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 1: is indeed going to play football instead of baseball. Um, 181 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 1: this is where things get real interesting when it comes 182 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 1: to mocking up the draft here right now and where 183 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 1: he may or may not go. I mean, a lot 184 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 1: of teams all of a sudden now he's considered a 185 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:23,959 Speaker 1: top ten pick, and a lot of mock drafts, and 186 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:28,080 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I don't know if I buy that. I 187 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 1: think is he got a first round talent. Yeah, I 188 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 1: think he's probably a first round talent because teams need quarterbacks. 189 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 1: But I don't know about a top ten. But I 190 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:40,560 Speaker 1: sure looks in the early going here that if he 191 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 1: can nail his Pro Day, there's gonna be a lot 192 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:45,440 Speaker 1: of buzz for this guy in the top ten. Yeah, 193 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:47,320 Speaker 1: And I think when it pertains the Browns, I mean, 194 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 1: I think a lot of us are probably skeptical of 195 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:51,439 Speaker 1: of Kyler Murray, and I think that a lot of 196 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:53,840 Speaker 1: us shutter when he's compared to Baker Mayfield because Baker 197 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 1: Mayfields are guy, and we don't think anyone's as good 198 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:58,680 Speaker 1: as as Baker Mayfield. And I think that we we 199 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:02,239 Speaker 1: don't want to say that Kyler just showed that Oklahoma's 200 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 1: a system because clearly Baker's already proven in the NFL. 201 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 1: It's it takes more than just playing for Oklahoma to 202 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 1: make it work in the NFL. So, but Brown's fans 203 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:10,840 Speaker 1: should be rooting for this guy to go top fifteen, 204 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 1: top ten again, takes some take, brings a better player 205 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 1: down to you, and I think that I'm of the 206 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:19,679 Speaker 1: opinion that he would not have made this decision if 207 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 1: he didn't have good intel that he was going to 208 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 1: go in the top round, because the difference between first 209 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 1: round money and second round money is huge in the 210 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 1: slotted system, and he was he's if he's going in 211 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 1: that first round, that first half the first round, that 212 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 1: a limit that validates his decision. He's getting more guaranteed 213 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 1: money than he would have gotten playing baseball, and that 214 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:41,199 Speaker 1: that kind of moves forward. There still is no guarantee 215 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 1: that he follows through and plays football after he's drafted. 216 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 1: He could do this a second time and not go 217 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 1: to the team. I think the A's are holding out hope. 218 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 1: And the one way that that happens I would think 219 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 1: is if he falls out of the first round. That 220 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:54,839 Speaker 1: then it becomes a risk. You're a team in the 221 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 1: second round. Are you really gonna pick this guy and 222 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 1: and not be sure if he's going to play for you. 223 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 1: It's something that will be considered. But I've got to 224 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 1: believe if he's making his decision right now, that he's 225 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 1: all in and thinking he's going to be a top ten, Yeah, 226 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 1: it will be very interesting and we'll get to some 227 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 1: of the mock drafts a little bit later on here 228 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 1: in the podcast. The other bit of news, it's a 229 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 1: it's a little bit of news, but still it's great 230 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 1: fans gonna have more access to the NFL Combine. ABC 231 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 1: set to air two hours of the NFL Combine, which 232 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:25,080 Speaker 1: comes up in less than two weeks from now. The 233 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:29,199 Speaker 1: ABC coverage expected to include quarterback and wide receiver workouts. 234 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 1: The coverage team set to include Trey Wingo, mel Hyper Jr. 235 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:37,079 Speaker 1: Among other familiar faces from ESPN. Just more ways that 236 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:40,720 Speaker 1: people and fans can consume the NFL product and get 237 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:42,959 Speaker 1: a glimpse of the NFL Combine. Yeah, I do think 238 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 1: they're a year late on this, though last year's quarterback 239 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:47,600 Speaker 1: class would have drawn a lot more eyeballs than this. 240 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:50,439 Speaker 1: I mean, this is again Kyler Murray, that's their one 241 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 1: guy that's probably gonna drive ratings. But are people tuning 242 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 1: in for Daniel Jones and Drew lock with the same 243 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:58,439 Speaker 1: way they would have for Baker Mayfield and Sam Donalds. 244 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 1: I mean, it's just a totally different year. But again, 245 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 1: I mean that's that's what shows this This used to 246 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 1: be a niche event, and that's as of like six 247 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 1: years ago. I mean it's ever since I started covering 248 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 1: the Combine, which I believe my first year was two 249 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 1: thousand and thirteen, when I was still covering Alabama, it 250 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:18,200 Speaker 1: was so much smaller than it is even now what 251 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 1: we're going into. They changed rooms. It used to be 252 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 1: in the in the concourse of of of Lucasoil. Now 253 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:25,959 Speaker 1: it's just now it's in the convention center that keep 254 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:28,839 Speaker 1: us away from from the stadium because it was too small. 255 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 1: You couldn't handle the media crush that was happening. And 256 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:35,560 Speaker 1: I think going you know a little inside this. But 257 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 1: for people like us, especially now that we're going into 258 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 1: this guessing as much as we have in years, I mean, 259 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:43,200 Speaker 1: we we can ignore the quarterbacks, which is something we 260 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 1: couldn't say the last couple of years, and we can 261 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:47,200 Speaker 1: ignore these guys who are locks to go in the 262 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 1: top ten. The most important part of this is this 263 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 1: really outside of the unscheduled press conferences that seemed to 264 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:56,319 Speaker 1: pop up here every now and then, this is usually 265 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:58,560 Speaker 1: the first year hear from these coaches and gms since 266 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, and that's that those are the days 267 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 1: that draw that generate the biggest amount of news, I mean, 268 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 1: and it's almost it's a funny thing. You go to 269 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 1: the combine to focus on the draft, and almost all 270 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:10,959 Speaker 1: people are talking about it the draft is free agency, 271 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 1: and I think that that's where a lot of these 272 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 1: meetings happened off the books with between representatives and teams 273 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 1: or teams start to get a feel of who they 274 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:23,199 Speaker 1: should even set up meetings with. I mean, this is 275 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 1: an important week for the league and it's on the field, 276 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:28,319 Speaker 1: it's all about the draft, but behind the scenes in India, 277 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 1: I think it's all about free agency. All right. So 278 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 1: that's the latest news surrounding the NFL Draft. Right now, 279 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:36,440 Speaker 1: it's time for our Expert of the Week interview. This 280 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 1: week on the inaugural edition of the program, we're proud 281 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:42,080 Speaker 1: to welcome in Charles Davis from the NFL Network and 282 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 1: Fox Sports to the podcast. You can catch Charles on 283 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 1: NFL Networks coverage of the NFL Combine Friday, March one 284 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 1: through Monday, March the fourth. Charles, appreciate the time today 285 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 1: and it's another year and getting ready for another big draft, 286 00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:00,559 Speaker 1: and yeah, I know it's early. One of the big 287 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 1: storylines you're looking at as we approach here the scouting 288 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 1: Combine and the NFL Draft. Yeah, it's it. It is early. 289 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 1: But at the same time, you guys know as well 290 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:16,319 Speaker 1: as anyone does the draft ever really truly sleep right. 291 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 1: No matter what's going on during the season, we end 292 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 1: up somehow, in a lot of ways relating things back 293 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 1: to what can happen in the draft, how this guy's 294 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 1: how this team's draft changed its fortune. I mean, you 295 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 1: guys are a great example of that. To think about 296 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 1: the last few drafts you've had and the number of 297 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 1: terrific players that have come out of it and helped 298 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 1: reshaped appreshape the nature of this team. And we're attended, 299 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 1: and I think all you know, fans of all franchises 300 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 1: always looked to the draft first to say, Okay, this 301 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 1: is where our team can make its most improvement or 302 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 1: this or we can we can draft this guy. Our 303 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 1: hope goes goes out, you know, goes through the roof. 304 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 1: And that's kind of how the whole thing works, especially 305 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 1: when teams are struggling to in the season than the 306 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 1: whole deal. So in a nutshell, as we began this 307 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 1: draft process, we were talking about big people, weren't we 308 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 1: Offensive defensive lineman, especially defensive lineman at the top of 309 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 1: the draft, and you guys, remember drafted Miles Garrett number one. Well, 310 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 1: could it be another Bosa this time Nick Bosa. Could 311 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 1: he be the number one overall pick out of Ohio State. 312 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 1: There's a good chance that that can happen. But in 313 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 1: the last twenty four to thirty six hours, I think 314 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 1: the draft got one of those boosts that you're always 315 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 1: looking for because no matter how we cut it, no 316 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 1: matter how many times to about how many other great 317 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 1: players there are, it always comes back to quarterbacks, doesn't it. 318 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 1: And when Kyler Murray said he was all in for 319 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 1: the NFL, that really jolted things in a big way 320 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 1: where I think people stood up and said, Okay, where's 321 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 1: this kid gonna go? And that's our entry because last 322 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 1: year was all about the quarterbacks. How many quarterbacks go 323 00:15:57,360 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 1: in the first round, who would go first off the board, 324 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 1: how man would play right away? This year, quarterbacks are 325 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 1: always a story, but they weren't the same that the 326 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 1: sizzle wasn't even close until Murray declared that he was 327 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 1: going all in for football. So to me, that change 328 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 1: things in a big way. Charles, it's early with with 329 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray in the process, but I imagine he would 330 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 1: have made this decision unless he didn't think he was 331 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 1: going to go in the in the first round. You 332 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 1: do you think there's a good chance he goes in 333 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 1: the top half of the first round, which would then 334 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 1: affect the Browns and dropping another talented player their way. Yeah, 335 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 1: I think you're right, and I think you raised an 336 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 1: excellent point. I do think he'll go in the top 337 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 1: half in the first round. I do think that he 338 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 1: decided to go in this direction not just because he 339 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 1: loves football, but exactly what you said. He believes he'll 340 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 1: be one of those those early line quarterbacks picked. He's 341 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 1: gonna go in the hopera. As you know, with well 342 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 1: Drew lock Out of Missouri when we started the season 343 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 1: may have been the guy that that most people were 344 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 1: saying with the top rated guy. As the season unfolded, 345 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 1: I think Dwayne Haskins from Ohio State became a huge 346 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 1: part of this process. And of course, as Kyler Murray 347 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:04,440 Speaker 1: went on and won the Heisman Trophy, that led to 348 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:07,200 Speaker 1: the next thing. And let's just be frank about it, 349 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 1: five to ten years ago, would we still be talking 350 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 1: about Kyler Murray as being in the top half of 351 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 1: this draft. Probably not right because of size well, Russell Wilson, Baker, Mayfield, 352 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 1: Drew Brees, Fran Tarkington before them, Eddie le Baron before them. 353 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 1: They have now proven and a lot of people if 354 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 1: we go back into revisionist history or a book back 355 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 1: in history, we just go, well, we probably blew it 356 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 1: without giving Doug Sluti a full shot. Okay, So now 357 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 1: here's where we Here's where we are. Those guys have 358 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:42,160 Speaker 1: proven conclusively that sizes and everything in terms of height 359 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 1: that you can play at different sizes in this league. 360 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 1: And Kyler Murray come at the same system that Baker 361 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 1: came out of. I've followed up with the Heisman Trophy 362 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:55,440 Speaker 1: like Baker one, you know, with with every other requisitibility 363 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 1: that you have. I think now it's cleared the way 364 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 1: for GMS to pick a guy of Kyler murray stature 365 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 1: and not worry that if it doesn't work out, that's 366 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 1: why you lose your job, because you know, a lot 367 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 1: of people pick out of fear as much as they 368 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 1: pick out of optimism. You know what I mean, They go, 369 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 1: oh God, what pick can I make that if it 370 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 1: doesn't work they will roast me the least four right 371 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 1: as opposed to going which guy is gonna help my 372 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 1: team win the most bunch of games, you know, and 373 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 1: that's what we get. And now these other guys have 374 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 1: cleared the way I think GMS can pick a Kyler 375 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 1: Murray without the same fear as oh my god, you 376 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 1: picked the smallest quarterback in the history of the league. 377 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 1: Now they go, you know, you might have picked the 378 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 1: top guy, And that's a whole different mindset, Charles. I'll 379 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 1: shift the focus to kind of the Browns and players 380 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:46,399 Speaker 1: that have been pointed their direction. And a guy that 381 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:48,720 Speaker 1: made a lot of noise this week was DK Metcalfine 382 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:50,959 Speaker 1: of Old miss and then the picture that leaked of him. 383 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:53,199 Speaker 1: When you look at that picture, I mean, it's obviously 384 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:55,440 Speaker 1: impressive what he's done to his body. But does that 385 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:58,399 Speaker 1: worry you at all about how big he's gotten. It 386 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 1: really doesn't. And you know, because I've seen these guys 387 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 1: with these physiques before. I would be worried if he 388 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:11,119 Speaker 1: showed up at the combine and ran four seven. But 389 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:14,400 Speaker 1: that physique, if he shows up the combine and he's 390 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 1: running what we expect him to run, I don't worry 391 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 1: about that part at all. The only question you you have, 392 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 1: and it's A natural question is what did he do 393 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 1: to get that big right? I mean, let's just be 394 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 1: you know, you put it on the table because you 395 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 1: know it's gonna be discussed behind closed doors. You know 396 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 1: they're going to ask. But I'm not. I don't come 397 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 1: from the idea that I view a lot of suspicion. 398 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 1: I look at the guy who's spent a lot of 399 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 1: time in the weight room and getting himselves right. He 400 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 1: has not gotten overly big. I don't think I'll remember 401 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:50,440 Speaker 1: David Boston all right. You remember the year he had 402 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 1: and then the next year he came back and he 403 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 1: looked like he should be rushing off the edge, and 404 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 1: he was never the same guy. Remember Kelly Washington at 405 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:03,720 Speaker 1: a Tennessee another guy with a monster physique and never 406 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:06,400 Speaker 1: played to that level because I think he got overly big. 407 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 1: I saw Metcalf this past summer, and he was already 408 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 1: a big guy. He looks cut up and chiseled, not 409 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:17,240 Speaker 1: swollen and bloated. And that's what I like about what 410 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:19,119 Speaker 1: I see for him. So I don't worry about that 411 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:22,159 Speaker 1: until I see a stopwatches says hey four seven to 412 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 1: whoa whoa, whoa, whoa whoa? Now we got some questions 413 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:29,440 Speaker 1: to but that Stopwatch has anything in the four or 414 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:35,119 Speaker 1: five range. Look out, folks, Charles offensive line, defensive line 415 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:41,119 Speaker 1: obviously two big, big positions. Who were some guys outside 416 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 1: of the bosses that are going to be gone in 417 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:46,200 Speaker 1: the you know, the first couple of guys that really 418 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 1: could be there at seventeen for the Browns when they 419 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 1: pick on opening night. Well, you want to start old 420 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 1: line or D line? Which which ways? Old line real quick, 421 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 1: my goal line real quick, I would say. You know, 422 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 1: if you love talking about the interior, I thought pretty 423 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:06,680 Speaker 1: dog good at the Senior Bowl, and it's gonna be picked, 424 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 1: your pick how you want to go about it, because 425 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 1: I really thought that the kid out of NC State 426 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 1: Brad Berry, really good player, much more of a mover 427 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 1: type of an offensive center, if you know what I'm saying, 428 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 1: like that zone zone blocking guy, but Elton Jenkins from 429 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:25,880 Speaker 1: Misissippi State, he moves people. That's a lot of man, now, 430 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 1: okay pounds. I thought inside, there's a kid out of 431 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:33,359 Speaker 1: Boston College I caught mine named Chris Lindstrom, offensive guard. 432 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 1: I saw him line up in the backfield as a 433 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:37,639 Speaker 1: lead fullback a couple of years ago. In the pin 434 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:40,639 Speaker 1: Strike Bowl, so you know, not only can he move people, 435 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:43,160 Speaker 1: but he can move himself. And then you start talking 436 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:46,440 Speaker 1: about these Wisconsin offensive lineman always right, you're always talking 437 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 1: about Wisconsin, Michael dieter Ben, you know Bo both Benshul, 438 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 1: you know, guys of that nature. But you're going to 439 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 1: see a number of other players. Cody Ford from Oklahoma, 440 00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:58,239 Speaker 1: is he a guard? Is he at tackle? Which way 441 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 1: is he going to go? Eric mcco away from Texas 442 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 1: A and m center guard? And that maybe someone you know, 443 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:07,440 Speaker 1: a kid named Michael Jordan's no, not the guy in 444 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 1: the Nike, not the guy jumping over people and offense, 445 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 1: the center guard. So you've got a lot of different 446 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 1: ways to go with this draft. But those are some 447 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 1: the guys that caught my eye. And then when you 448 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 1: get to the tackles, you know, is it Jonah Williams 449 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 1: who some people think might be dropping a little bit 450 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 1: out of Alabama? Greg Little was a lot of people 451 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 1: thought he'd be the first go off the board out 452 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 1: of Mississippi. Many thought he didn't have the year he 453 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 1: needed to have last year. But you're talking about a 454 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:33,680 Speaker 1: kid who made a move with Andre Dillard from Washington State. 455 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 1: There left tackle. It's not a mawler, not a guy 456 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 1: gonna put you on your back very often, but he 457 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 1: positions you, runs you past the quarterback and keeps your 458 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:43,399 Speaker 1: quarterback and getting hit And isn't that the name of 459 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 1: the game in the NFL right now? And a guy 460 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:48,400 Speaker 1: that I absolutely love is Dalton Riisner from Kansas State. 461 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 1: Played tackle, played some interior wise at k State. He 462 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:55,440 Speaker 1: might be a candidate like they did with Cody Whitehead, 463 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:58,200 Speaker 1: the LP white Hair who's with the Bears now to 464 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 1: be an All American tackle and Kyle Edge and moved 465 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:02,919 Speaker 1: back inside when he gets to the NFL. White here 466 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 1: is playing center for the Bears, which is a great 467 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:07,440 Speaker 1: spot for him rising from play center and some people 468 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 1: see him as a guard. Give me two guys defensively 469 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:12,359 Speaker 1: that could be there at seventeen for the Browns on 470 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 1: the defensive line. Well, it's seventeen, you know. I think 471 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:19,199 Speaker 1: a lot of people were wondering about where Jeffrey Simmons 472 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 1: was going to go from Mississippi State. Now we've had 473 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 1: the report about the knee injury. A lot of people 474 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:26,720 Speaker 1: had him as a top ten guy. He might still 475 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:29,399 Speaker 1: be sitting there and if you have the flavor to 476 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:33,879 Speaker 1: be able to say, you know something, seventeen isn't too 477 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:36,119 Speaker 1: early for a guy coming off a knee surgery, and 478 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 1: my reward might be really big later. That could be 479 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 1: that could be a spot for him, because I think 480 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 1: he's a top ten type of a player. I know 481 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 1: there's been some talk about off field stuff, but when 482 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 1: you watch him, we've talked about Montes sweat is running 483 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 1: made the defensive end. This kid's a better player to 484 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:55,679 Speaker 1: may So coming off the a c L. A lot 485 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 1: of people automatically are thinking, well, he's gonna go second round, 486 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 1: third round, what have you? Look? You sit there at 487 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:03,359 Speaker 1: seven team with a good, good team around him. That 488 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 1: might be a guy that you might want to take, 489 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:06,719 Speaker 1: go ahead and take a run at while you got 490 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:09,160 Speaker 1: an opportunity. And if you talk about guys coming off 491 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:11,879 Speaker 1: the edge, if you talk about sevent team, this polite 492 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 1: kid out of Florida, he's really starting to catch people's eyes. Charles, 493 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 1: appreciate the time, man, and we look forward to seeing 494 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:20,359 Speaker 1: you and Indie and seeing you on the NFL Network 495 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:24,640 Speaker 1: and the NFL Network's draft coverage and combine coverage. My friend, 496 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:27,120 Speaker 1: all the best to you, the same to you guys 497 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:28,639 Speaker 1: and look forward to seeing you in the real in 498 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 1: the near future. Okay, special thanks to Charles Davis from 499 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 1: the NFL Network and Fox. A great guy, guy knows 500 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:38,680 Speaker 1: his stuff. Looking forward to seeing him have a little 501 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 1: bit bigger role in the draft coverage on NFL Network. 502 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:44,959 Speaker 1: As we approached the NFL Draft, especially with Mike Mayock 503 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 1: moving on to UH become the GM and Daniel Jeremiah 504 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:51,520 Speaker 1: moving up, it looks like Charles Davis that next guy 505 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 1: up UH for the NFL Network. Never short changes you 506 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:57,359 Speaker 1: on content though. The guy put a quarter in him 507 00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:59,639 Speaker 1: and he can go. If we could have filled multiple 508 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:02,680 Speaker 1: podcast us with with him, I would agree one and 509 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:05,920 Speaker 1: ten percent. You can follow Charles on Twitter at c 510 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:09,880 Speaker 1: f D twenty two. We appreciate his time today from 511 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 1: one star to another. We now welcome in the Z 512 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 1: that starts with Zagura, as in Nathan Ziagura from the 513 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Daily to help us out with a little 514 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:22,640 Speaker 1: game we like to play called fact or Fiction. Good afternoon, sir, 515 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 1: Good afternoon. Great to be with you guys on the 516 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:29,399 Speaker 1: best podcast available. B p A. I'm excited. Let's go, 517 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 1: all right, let's go with a little fact or fiction, 518 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:37,359 Speaker 1: fact or fiction factor fiction number one. Defensive tackle should 519 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:40,359 Speaker 1: be the browns Number one priority in this year's draft. 520 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:43,359 Speaker 1: Mr Gribble, I'll go with fact on this one because 521 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:45,399 Speaker 1: I think it's it's not only a position where you 522 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 1: can really get better. I just think it's also a 523 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 1: position in the draft that is absolutely loaded with talented 524 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,680 Speaker 1: players who can make an immediate impact, and it is 525 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 1: the future of the National Football League. Bringing pass rush 526 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:01,120 Speaker 1: up the middle is what really disrupts these quick moving offenses. 527 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 1: So that is a big old fact for me. I'm 528 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:05,920 Speaker 1: gonna say fiction, and it's not so much with the 529 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 1: subject matter but the wording of the question. Should I'm 530 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 1: not going to tell John Dorsey what he should or 531 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:14,160 Speaker 1: should not be doing in the draft. That being said, 532 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 1: I do think defensive tackle or inside linebacker perhaps because 533 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 1: it's a very talented linebacker class as well, probably are 534 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 1: the positions that would be at the top of John 535 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:27,120 Speaker 1: Dorsey's board. So I'm gonna say fiction just because I'm 536 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:29,200 Speaker 1: not gonna tell the man doors who's on a heat 537 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 1: or what to do. But defensive tackle is deep in 538 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:34,440 Speaker 1: this draft class where the Browns pick at seventeen, I 539 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:36,480 Speaker 1: think You'll have a good opportunity to either a great 540 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:40,360 Speaker 1: tackle or a linebacker, and I would expect the defense 541 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:42,880 Speaker 1: will be the focus. You're right, I am not one 542 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 1: to uh not do it, Mr Dorsey what he should. 543 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 1: That doesn't make great content though we just said every 544 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 1: answer to every question is going to be Oh, let's 545 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 1: just trust in Dorsey. We have to throw around some 546 00:26:55,600 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 1: opinions in here. Let's go next. Number two, The Browns 547 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 1: should draft an offensive tackle in the first three rounds. Yes, 548 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 1: I'm saying the brown should. Well this one. I can 549 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:10,879 Speaker 1: say this one. I can say fiction regardless of the 550 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:14,720 Speaker 1: of the verbiage here. Again, this is predicated on the 551 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:17,920 Speaker 1: Browns resigning Greg Robinson. I believe if you resign Greg Robinson, 552 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:20,399 Speaker 1: you've got Desmond Harrison here. You probably can add a 553 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 1: veteran if you like to swing tackle in free agency, 554 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 1: or add one in rounds four or five, six or seven. 555 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:28,920 Speaker 1: We've seen a lot of good teams draft lineman later 556 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:31,920 Speaker 1: on as developmental guys. I don't think the Browns, after 557 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:34,960 Speaker 1: drafting an offensive lineman last year in the second round 558 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 1: with the first pick of the second round who didn't 559 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 1: see the field, need to use a valuable resource again 560 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 1: at a position where you don't expect them to see 561 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:44,240 Speaker 1: the field right away. I think there are other glaring needs. 562 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 1: But again my answer being fiction is predicated upon the 563 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 1: fact that the Browns resign Greg Robinson. Yeah, I'm gonna 564 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:53,119 Speaker 1: go fiction on this as well, because not because I 565 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 1: don't necessarily agree with the whole line of thinking about that. 566 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:57,960 Speaker 1: You're you're you're in decent shape with with what you 567 00:27:58,040 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 1: bring back. Even with Greg Robins, I still think it's 568 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 1: room to get better depth wise, and I would advocate 569 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 1: drafting a left tackle in those first three rounds if 570 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:08,400 Speaker 1: that player is the best player available on your board. 571 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:10,720 Speaker 1: I just don't think that's gonna happen because I think 572 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 1: when the Browns are on the clocket with pick, that's 573 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:17,160 Speaker 1: the only part in the draft where you're gonna maybe 574 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:20,680 Speaker 1: get your guaranteed starter when it's a left tackle. Otherwise 575 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 1: they're they're probably got some work to do. I just 576 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 1: don't think there's gonna be a guy there at number 577 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:27,160 Speaker 1: seventeen that you can pick and trust that they win 578 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 1: that left tackle job. And then after the second and 579 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 1: third round, I just think you can better use your 580 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:34,200 Speaker 1: picks elsewhere to get more immediate impact players on a 581 00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:36,120 Speaker 1: team that wants to be in the playoffs in two 582 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:38,320 Speaker 1: thousand nineteen. Now you mentioned it. We talked about it 583 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 1: on Brown's Daily. Nathan though. Just the way the Patriots 584 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,960 Speaker 1: to build up their offensive line, I mean undrafted guys, 585 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 1: Guys in the fourth and fifth round and Day three guys, 586 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:50,240 Speaker 1: And I think that's really when you have the quarterback 587 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:52,240 Speaker 1: who gets the ball out. Because if everybody's saying that 588 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 1: Greg Robinson was the weak link on the line, and 589 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:56,640 Speaker 1: that's some of the stuff that you'll read online, the 590 00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:58,800 Speaker 1: Browns gave up the fewest number of quarterback hits in 591 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 1: the league over the last eight by like twenty two. 592 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 1: I think the Colts were second at twenty nine. The 593 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 1: Rounds were at seven. So if you're telling me that 594 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 1: Greg Robinson isn't that good, that says to me, we 595 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 1: can put in another person who's not that good and 596 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:14,960 Speaker 1: be just fine on the offensive line. Now, if Greg 597 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 1: Robinson actually is good, then we keep him, et cetera. 598 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 1: But I know the good folks over at Pro Football 599 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 1: Focus did a research study on the left tackle position, 600 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:25,880 Speaker 1: and here's kind of what they said in terms of 601 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 1: how much it means to victories at that position, and 602 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:32,640 Speaker 1: basically the gist is it's an important position. Having an 603 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:35,720 Speaker 1: elite left tackle is not necessary. An elite left tackle 604 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:37,680 Speaker 1: maybe gives you an a half a win a year 605 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 1: compared to an average guy who gives you about a 606 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:41,760 Speaker 1: quarter of a win a year. You don't want to 607 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:43,480 Speaker 1: have a bottom of the league left tackle that can 608 00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 1: lose you a game of year. But we're talking about 609 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 1: very miniscule differences here, and I think that the resources 610 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:51,920 Speaker 1: in the way the NFL games evolving are best spent 611 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 1: on people who touched the football repeatedly. I agree. Next, 612 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:02,160 Speaker 1: the rounds are better off getting a wide receiver through 613 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:06,320 Speaker 1: free agency or a trade rather than the draft. Mr Gribble, 614 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:10,240 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with fact on this one. In terms 615 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:12,400 Speaker 1: of if you want someone that's gonna make an immediate 616 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:16,480 Speaker 1: impact for this season, odds are it's gonna come through 617 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:20,120 Speaker 1: free agency because these wide receivers they take a long 618 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 1: time to develop with what with the way the game 619 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 1: has changed from the college level to the NFL. And 620 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 1: I know we talk about the college game is morphing 621 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,960 Speaker 1: more into the NFL, but I think route concepts and 622 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:33,680 Speaker 1: kind of the technicalities of what wide receivers are asked 623 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 1: to do is become a big leap. I mean, we've 624 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:37,560 Speaker 1: seen it across the LEA. These first round picks are 625 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 1: not having it easy. I do think you should do both, though, 626 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:44,080 Speaker 1: I think that this team should probably resign Breshad Pairman, 627 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:46,800 Speaker 1: add another veteran and then go after some of these 628 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 1: guys and maybe the third fourth round, develop them and 629 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 1: let them learn and grow behind some some true veterans 630 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,720 Speaker 1: on this team. I think it depends what you want. 631 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:56,560 Speaker 1: Like when you're saying are you betting off getting a 632 00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 1: wide receiver, there really aren't any wide receiver ones. It 633 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:01,880 Speaker 1: seems like maybe in this draft maybe DK Metcalf. But 634 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:04,760 Speaker 1: this team you have Callaway who could really become I 635 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 1: think a very special one A or number two. You've 636 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 1: got Landry who fills that role, can play inside outside 637 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:11,440 Speaker 1: for you. But what you don't have is that big, 638 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:15,160 Speaker 1: prototypical superstar one. Now, maybe Brashad Pereman picks up where 639 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:16,680 Speaker 1: he left off and can do that for you, But 640 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:20,200 Speaker 1: I'm talking about getting a surefire stud number one receiver. 641 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:22,480 Speaker 1: The problem is there aren't any of those available in 642 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:24,520 Speaker 1: free agency this year. Your best free agent receivers are 643 00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:29,040 Speaker 1: probably Golden Tate. Um, you've got Devin Funchius, but who 644 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:31,960 Speaker 1: if if they're letting him leave Carolina a place where 645 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:33,840 Speaker 1: they need receivers, they just use a first round pick 646 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:36,080 Speaker 1: on receiver d J. Moore. You know he's probably not 647 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:38,200 Speaker 1: the answer. John Brown doesn't have the size that you're 648 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:40,480 Speaker 1: looking for. There isn't that guy. Tyrell Williams, I think 649 00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:43,520 Speaker 1: is an interesting name, but again would be more of 650 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 1: a role player. If you want to try to get 651 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:48,520 Speaker 1: a star in here at wide receiver, it's going to 652 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:51,000 Speaker 1: have to be via a trade. That's really I think 653 00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 1: the only option to add a star receiver to this 654 00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:56,880 Speaker 1: roster headed into the two thousand nineteen season. Now, who's available, 655 00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,360 Speaker 1: I don't know, but we've seen teams start to trade 656 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:01,440 Speaker 1: a little bit more like it's the NBA here, So 657 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:03,600 Speaker 1: maybe the Browns can make a move. And I mean, 658 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:04,960 Speaker 1: I don't know if he's available or not, but I 659 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:12,480 Speaker 1: wouldn't mind seeing Mike Evans come here. You gotta aim high. 660 00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:15,680 Speaker 1: Let's go. You have the resources and you have the 661 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 1: capital to pull off something like. You have the money 662 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:19,680 Speaker 1: and one thing at one point I want to make 663 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 1: on this is if you ever were gonna go This 664 00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:24,960 Speaker 1: is the time to get a high priced guy, because 665 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,200 Speaker 1: if you bring somebody in high price, it's really a 666 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 1: two year deal. You're not paying Baker, you're not paying Miles, 667 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:33,160 Speaker 1: You're not paying Denzel Award. Miles will have to pay 668 00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,080 Speaker 1: probably in two years, but you have the fifth year option, 669 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,600 Speaker 1: so maybe it's three years. This is your window to 670 00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:39,840 Speaker 1: spend money, and then when those guys come off the books, 671 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,520 Speaker 1: you pay your guys and have to kind of complement 672 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:44,240 Speaker 1: the team around him. But the way that the Rams 673 00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:46,280 Speaker 1: got so good so quickly is they took advantage of 674 00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:49,160 Speaker 1: the fact that you still had Golf on his rookie deal, 675 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:50,960 Speaker 1: and even though he's the number one pick, it's still 676 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,560 Speaker 1: below market value for a player of his of his caliber, 677 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:55,960 Speaker 1: and then you're able to sign Robert would sign Brandon Cook, 678 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,440 Speaker 1: signing Dominicansu, a keep to leave trade for Marcus Peters, 679 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:00,680 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, they got really good in 680 00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:02,560 Speaker 1: a hurry. And I think for the Browns that's the 681 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:04,600 Speaker 1: model that they're going to have to follow or want 682 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:06,520 Speaker 1: to follow in the next few years. So if you're 683 00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:08,479 Speaker 1: gonna make an aggressive trade or make an aggressive move, 684 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:09,800 Speaker 1: now is the time to do it. Yeah, and this 685 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:11,480 Speaker 1: is the time that you gotta do some fact finding. 686 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:13,200 Speaker 1: You gotta see, you gotta find the guys that not 687 00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:15,560 Speaker 1: only are really good and deserve that money, but are 688 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:18,200 Speaker 1: gonna play just as well, if not better when they 689 00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:20,440 Speaker 1: get that money. Because that that that is a game 690 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:22,120 Speaker 1: changer with a lot of these players in the NFL. 691 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,160 Speaker 1: And I honestly don't blame some of these guys that 692 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:27,440 Speaker 1: think it's natural, but you you can't just throw that 693 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:28,840 Speaker 1: money at a player and be like, all right, I 694 00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 1: think we're gonna be better. You gotta get the right player. 695 00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:32,640 Speaker 1: And I think that's what John Dorsey did so well 696 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,680 Speaker 1: this past offseason. You've got guys that were still hitting 697 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:37,960 Speaker 1: their prime rather than guys that were past their prime. 698 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:44,920 Speaker 1: Next facts, if you were NFL prospect Kitlin Saunders, you 699 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,640 Speaker 1: would have stayed at the Senior Bowl instead of joining 700 00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:50,640 Speaker 1: your fiance for the birth of your first child. Now 701 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:54,080 Speaker 1: you're both you're both parents. This this happened. Yeah, I'm 702 00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:57,800 Speaker 1: going he stayed at the Senior Bowl rather than going 703 00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,200 Speaker 1: to meet his fiance in Chicago for the Buds their 704 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:03,960 Speaker 1: first child. What's his what's his kind of projection to eat? 705 00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:08,400 Speaker 1: Know what he will be at the NFL combine. So okay, uh, 706 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:11,880 Speaker 1: I mean I would be with my fiance for the 707 00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:14,040 Speaker 1: birth of my first child. I think that I don't 708 00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:16,359 Speaker 1: think that anybody would look down upon that. I would 709 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:18,400 Speaker 1: understand that. I understand the rationale of him saying I 710 00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:20,120 Speaker 1: need to stay because that way I can provide the 711 00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:22,399 Speaker 1: best life of this child. But the child being born 712 00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:25,840 Speaker 1: is a pretty special thing, and I think you want 713 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:28,040 Speaker 1: to be there. I'm going with a big fiction on 714 00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:30,640 Speaker 1: this one side. You've got to be where your child 715 00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:35,160 Speaker 1: is being born. I will add this though. The Senior 716 00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:37,320 Speaker 1: Bowl is one thing because there's guys who don't go 717 00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:40,080 Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl by choice and it doesn't work against 718 00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:44,719 Speaker 1: them in the draft process. If this was the combine, yeah, 719 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:47,000 Speaker 1: you have to start thinking about it. And that's where 720 00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:51,240 Speaker 1: it applies to the better life for your family argument. 721 00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:54,920 Speaker 1: But you do everything in your power to go be 722 00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:57,680 Speaker 1: with you, be with your fiance, to to see the 723 00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:00,239 Speaker 1: perfect your child, because that's gonna your child's gonna be 724 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:02,279 Speaker 1: with you forever. This NFL thing is just a small 725 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:05,839 Speaker 1: part of your life. Yes, agreed? All right? Spoken from 726 00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:10,319 Speaker 1: two fathers and I have step daughters, so all good. 727 00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:17,360 Speaker 1: This is all on YouTube next fact fiction, Dwayne Haskins 728 00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:20,480 Speaker 1: is the best player coming out of Ohio State in 729 00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:25,080 Speaker 1: this year's class. The girl, you're making an ugly face fiction, 730 00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:27,600 Speaker 1: because I would imagine Nick bos Is gonna be the 731 00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:29,120 Speaker 1: number one pick in the draft, and I would say 732 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:30,719 Speaker 1: that he would be the best player coming out of 733 00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:33,520 Speaker 1: Ohio State in this year's draft class in terms of 734 00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:37,520 Speaker 1: making an impact. Nick Bosa, I don't I have not 735 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:39,440 Speaker 1: seen and I could be wrong, but I have not 736 00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:43,080 Speaker 1: seen anyone that has Dwayne Haskins listed as a better 737 00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:45,960 Speaker 1: prospect than Nick Bosa this year. And I think Nick 738 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:48,920 Speaker 1: Moos is gonna end up going number one overall, don't you. 739 00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:52,080 Speaker 1: I mean it's working at a more important position. But 740 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:54,719 Speaker 1: this says best player, I think Nick bos is the 741 00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:57,799 Speaker 1: best player I will I agree with Nathan that Nick 742 00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:01,080 Speaker 1: Bose is the best player. I think that Dwyne Haskins 743 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:05,839 Speaker 1: is going to be the more important player in their career, 744 00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:08,160 Speaker 1: and I think it's the he will have the most 745 00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:13,440 Speaker 1: impact on whichever franchise commits to him, because someone is 746 00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:15,680 Speaker 1: going to trade up to get him. Whatever GM does, 747 00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:18,239 Speaker 1: that is putting their job on the line based on 748 00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:20,839 Speaker 1: Dwayne Haskins. If you're the Cardinals and your draft Nick 749 00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:22,279 Speaker 1: bos and he doesn't try to be all that good. 750 00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:23,920 Speaker 1: It's not really held against you as much as a 751 00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:26,439 Speaker 1: guy that is putting his steak in Dwayne Haskins. Whether 752 00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:28,479 Speaker 1: it be the Giants who are moving on who would 753 00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:31,000 Speaker 1: be moving on from Eli Manning or the Jaguars who 754 00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:32,800 Speaker 1: think they should be in the playoffs this year, I 755 00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:36,879 Speaker 1: think that Dwayne Haskins is the more impactful, important Ohis 756 00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:38,839 Speaker 1: State player in the draft this year. If they both 757 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,840 Speaker 1: reached their potential, Dwayne Haskins will have a bigger impact 758 00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:43,520 Speaker 1: on this franchise. I agree with that because of the 759 00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:49,560 Speaker 1: position he plays. Yep, Okay, you know I understood. And 760 00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:51,160 Speaker 1: when I was putting it together, I said, you know, 761 00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:53,960 Speaker 1: I get the boss is gonna be number one? But 762 00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:59,000 Speaker 1: is Haskins more valuable a pick than Bossa coming out 763 00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:02,399 Speaker 1: in this year's draft. He's he's a franchise changer because 764 00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:04,680 Speaker 1: he's your he's your quarterback, and odds are he's gonna 765 00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:06,560 Speaker 1: be the first quarterback taking the draft. And like I 766 00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:09,640 Speaker 1: mentioned earlier, odds are, whatever team gets him probably is 767 00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:14,520 Speaker 1: going to be trading up to get him next. Kyler 768 00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:18,040 Speaker 1: Murray will be a top ten pick in this year's draft. 769 00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:23,080 Speaker 1: Nathan fact quarterbacks rule. It's all about quarterbacks. If somebody 770 00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:24,680 Speaker 1: falls in love with them, you go up there and 771 00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:28,120 Speaker 1: you get him. I'm going with fiction on this one 772 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:32,560 Speaker 1: for a couple of reasons. Kyler Murray is not Baker Mayfield, 773 00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:36,880 Speaker 1: but he and it's and it's more. It's it's to me, 774 00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:41,560 Speaker 1: it's more than just the throwing. It's the size. I 775 00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:44,920 Speaker 1: think that this guy is legitimately much smaller than Baker Mayfield, 776 00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,920 Speaker 1: who we viewed. We viewed Baker Mayfield as being one 777 00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:49,759 Speaker 1: of the smaller quarterbacks in the entire league. This guy 778 00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:53,120 Speaker 1: is a level smaller than Baker Mayfield. That's the first 779 00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:56,839 Speaker 1: thing too. I just think that this draft this year 780 00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:00,400 Speaker 1: is so different in terms of the amount of teams 781 00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:02,640 Speaker 1: that feel like they need to go get a first 782 00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:05,040 Speaker 1: round quarterback. There aren't many, and even the ones that 783 00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:08,080 Speaker 1: were like lumping in there and thinking they need to 784 00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:10,040 Speaker 1: get a quarterback in the first round might not do it. 785 00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:12,640 Speaker 1: Like I think the Miami Dolphins probably gonna move on 786 00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:15,600 Speaker 1: from Ryan's Tannehill, but they are looking at like a 787 00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:18,920 Speaker 1: Brown's two thousand sixteen type rebuild where they might be 788 00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:20,719 Speaker 1: waiting for next year to get to the quarterback. So 789 00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:23,120 Speaker 1: I think that I just don't think the market is 790 00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:25,880 Speaker 1: ripe enough there. And I think that both Dwayne Haskins 791 00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:29,439 Speaker 1: and maybe if you pick between Drew Lock and Daniel Jones, 792 00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:31,320 Speaker 1: one of those guys might go ahead of Kyler Murray. 793 00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:33,440 Speaker 1: I just think the more they talk to this guy, 794 00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:35,840 Speaker 1: the more they examine how he really is going to 795 00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:38,600 Speaker 1: fit in these NFL offenses, as opposed to just being 796 00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:40,640 Speaker 1: the next big thing from college that they think is 797 00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:43,200 Speaker 1: gonna work. I just don't see it happening alright. Final 798 00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:48,520 Speaker 1: one facts, The opening night draft coverage by ABC's College 799 00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:51,239 Speaker 1: Game Day crew will be more popular than both the 800 00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:56,200 Speaker 1: ESPN and NFL network broadcasts. Now ABC it's a new deal. 801 00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:59,920 Speaker 1: Now ABC is gonna show Thursday and Friday and then 802 00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:04,640 Speaker 1: simulcast Saturday, and ABC will be using the ESPN College 803 00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:08,040 Speaker 1: Game Day talent to host the Draft. I'm gonna go 804 00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:12,239 Speaker 1: with fiction. I'm going to fiction fantastic because I think 805 00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:15,840 Speaker 1: that clearly College James Day niche group. Not niche, but 806 00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:18,400 Speaker 1: like college football fans love College Game Day. It's an 807 00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:22,480 Speaker 1: incredibly popular show, incredibly successful year after year. It's very good. 808 00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:25,080 Speaker 1: But on Draft Night, I want to hear from the 809 00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:27,879 Speaker 1: guy the draft experts, and I know that those guys 810 00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:30,080 Speaker 1: know those players as college players, but I want to 811 00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:32,799 Speaker 1: hear from the guys who know how these guys will 812 00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:36,120 Speaker 1: fit in the NFL. And that's Maybe that won't translate, 813 00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:39,680 Speaker 1: maybe because ABC is the bigger reach, but I just 814 00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:42,080 Speaker 1: think the the NFL fans are still gonna want to 815 00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:45,320 Speaker 1: hear from ESPN and NFL Network. So the reason I 816 00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:47,600 Speaker 1: had that look on my face is because I didn't 817 00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:50,080 Speaker 1: even know this is happening, first of all. So I 818 00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:53,000 Speaker 1: consider myself to be fairly aware of things around the draft. 819 00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:54,680 Speaker 1: Stuff I didn't know about it. I'm gonna guess that 820 00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:56,640 Speaker 1: they're probably other people that didn't know this was happening. 821 00:39:57,000 --> 00:40:00,160 Speaker 1: And you're trained at this point either say I like 822 00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:02,120 Speaker 1: the ESPN guys like Keiper and ma or I want 823 00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:04,240 Speaker 1: to watch the NFL guys with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky 824 00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:07,200 Speaker 1: Brooks and and Charles Davis. It will be interesting with 825 00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:10,960 Speaker 1: no uh, with the fact that NFL Network doesn't at 826 00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:15,160 Speaker 1: mayok general man, I mean, Jeremiah is really good, but 827 00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:17,600 Speaker 1: he's ready, he's ready to step up. He's ready to 828 00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:20,680 Speaker 1: step in one of those guys. I mean right at 829 00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:23,840 Speaker 1: the very top he was. I think that it's just 830 00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,120 Speaker 1: it's been years, I means trained behavior, and now you're 831 00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:29,960 Speaker 1: asking people to switch Upunto your point, it's not about 832 00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:31,960 Speaker 1: what they were in college as much as it is 833 00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:34,040 Speaker 1: how they translate to the National Football League and what 834 00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:35,759 Speaker 1: it means for your team that they got this guy 835 00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:38,680 Speaker 1: and how he fits. So yeah, I don't believe it 836 00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:40,160 Speaker 1: will be more popular. It could be, though. I mean, 837 00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:43,040 Speaker 1: maybe the course is gonna put on some cool get 838 00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:45,160 Speaker 1: ups and people are gonna love it. Listen, Listen. I'm 839 00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:48,920 Speaker 1: a traditionalist with my annual programming. If I'm watching the 840 00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:51,839 Speaker 1: draft coverage, give me mel Kiper Jr. It's not it's 841 00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:53,640 Speaker 1: my one time year. He needs to be there. It's 842 00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:56,239 Speaker 1: like when it's like back in a few years ago 843 00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:58,520 Speaker 1: New Year's Eve, you're watching Dick Clark. You're not going 844 00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:00,440 Speaker 1: to these other channels. You're going to Dick Arcs, Rock 845 00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:04,719 Speaker 1: and Eve. You're watching the main face the drafts right 846 00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:07,880 Speaker 1: now because you're going You're going to the face of it. 847 00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:10,279 Speaker 1: And as mel Kiper, he has earned that distinction like 848 00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:12,920 Speaker 1: great hair, and you can't argue with that. I just 849 00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:17,279 Speaker 1: think asking something it's not broken. I don't feel like 850 00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:19,520 Speaker 1: the draft coverage has been broken. So there's I realize 851 00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:21,160 Speaker 1: you want to innovate and try to cash in on this, 852 00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:23,279 Speaker 1: but I don't know. And then the other thing is 853 00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:25,759 Speaker 1: the truth. You know, this draft is gonna be so 854 00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:29,480 Speaker 1: much different for us, as Brown's fans and Brown's employees 855 00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:31,320 Speaker 1: than anything we've ever been a part of. It's like 856 00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:34,479 Speaker 1: we don't even have to get tuned in until nine 857 00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:37,040 Speaker 1: thirty or ten o'clock when we actually make a pick. 858 00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:39,440 Speaker 1: You know, it's like, how many more channels can we 859 00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:44,200 Speaker 1: get the draft done? Like we have the HDTV angle drafts, 860 00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:48,320 Speaker 1: Like it's too much. Let's let's the The NFL network 861 00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:51,920 Speaker 1: is solid by having it on two networks, But clamoring 862 00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:54,320 Speaker 1: for this, like who was the audience that was? Like, 863 00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:58,080 Speaker 1: I don't know, aren't ABC and ESPN competing against each 864 00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:01,439 Speaker 1: other and their own together? But in there we're gonna sell. 865 00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:03,920 Speaker 1: We get all that advertising money. So it's just us 866 00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:06,360 Speaker 1: trying to let go to on one against Yeah, but 867 00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:12,280 Speaker 1: you're selling against your I don't know, you're programming against 868 00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:16,080 Speaker 1: your own people. You're selling against your own I'm not 869 00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:18,080 Speaker 1: really sure if that makes all the sense in the world. 870 00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:20,879 Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, yeah, I don't know who 871 00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:22,520 Speaker 1: was Like, Man, I gotta have that. I got it. 872 00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:25,680 Speaker 1: This is what I need, Sigura. A pleasure, What a treat, 873 00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:30,200 Speaker 1: What a treat? Indeed, all right, let's get into a 874 00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:32,839 Speaker 1: little mock draft action here. We're gonna go through these. 875 00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:35,040 Speaker 1: We'll we'll pick out some fun ones every week, we'll 876 00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:38,399 Speaker 1: pick out some wild ones, and we'll go through them 877 00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:40,960 Speaker 1: right now and and just kind of get your thoughts, 878 00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:43,719 Speaker 1: GRIBs on this stuff. We'll start with R. J. White 879 00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:47,120 Speaker 1: from CBS Sports. The interesting thing with all of these 880 00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:50,800 Speaker 1: now that we're starting to see is now that Kyler 881 00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:54,160 Speaker 1: Murray has decided he's in play, we're starting to see 882 00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:57,279 Speaker 1: a lot of three quarterbacks, four quarterbacks off the board, 883 00:42:57,320 --> 00:42:59,600 Speaker 1: which is great news if you're the Cleveland Browns picking 884 00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:02,520 Speaker 1: it and team. But I see a lot more offensive 885 00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:06,320 Speaker 1: lineman and defensive backs being selected here or mocked to 886 00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:08,640 Speaker 1: the Browns. Yeah, and I think it might be a 887 00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:11,120 Speaker 1: result of one we're gonna I think where he can 888 00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:13,680 Speaker 1: see even more now that Jeffrey Simmons is probably gonna 889 00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:16,120 Speaker 1: get pulled out of being projected to the Browns. But 890 00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:18,400 Speaker 1: I think it's it's falling in line with kind of 891 00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:20,560 Speaker 1: the strength of the draft, and I think that's where 892 00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:22,560 Speaker 1: the Browns are in the position there they're looking there. 893 00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:25,759 Speaker 1: It's it's there's a couple of positions that are just 894 00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:27,840 Speaker 1: not getting projected to the Browns. But outside of that, 895 00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:30,279 Speaker 1: it really does look like all these guys are going 896 00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:32,640 Speaker 1: with best player available, and I think that's where it 897 00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:34,719 Speaker 1: just seems to be falling in line here. R J. 898 00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:38,960 Speaker 1: White from CBS Sports has offensive tackle Andre Dillard from 899 00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:42,960 Speaker 1: Washington State, I believe a Senior Bowl participation. Yeah, and 900 00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:45,680 Speaker 1: he he's a guy that Daniel Jeremiah especially is really 901 00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:48,040 Speaker 1: high on. Uh he calls him. And I think that 902 00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:50,520 Speaker 1: it's a consensus view that this guy is the best 903 00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:54,120 Speaker 1: past protecting left tackle in the draft. And I think 904 00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:58,640 Speaker 1: what's gonna be his area to work on majorly is 905 00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:01,279 Speaker 1: in the running game. And I think that that's with 906 00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:03,439 Speaker 1: the way the NFL is going, I mean, that's where 907 00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:06,279 Speaker 1: this guy's stock rises up pretty high. I think that 908 00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:09,600 Speaker 1: in the past, teams were maybe a little more reluctant 909 00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:11,480 Speaker 1: with that Washington State offense because it was such a 910 00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:13,840 Speaker 1: big change to go to the NFL. Now there's a 911 00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:17,480 Speaker 1: lot more offenses looking like Washington States, and so I 912 00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:20,720 Speaker 1: think that he's fitting in to kind of the modern NFL. 913 00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:23,400 Speaker 1: And in this mock drafting and others I've seen, it 914 00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:26,239 Speaker 1: looks like there could be a run on tackles in 915 00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:29,360 Speaker 1: kind of that middle of the draft of the Browns 916 00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:32,400 Speaker 1: are because you look at the Redskins, Panthers, Browns, Vikings, 917 00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:34,759 Speaker 1: all those teams could probably use a guy like that, 918 00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:39,200 Speaker 1: no question. Ryan Wilson from CBS Sports has Greedy Williams 919 00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:41,880 Speaker 1: the first time I've seen that one pop up defensive 920 00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:43,840 Speaker 1: back from L s U. Yeah, he's considered one of 921 00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:45,840 Speaker 1: the more talented defensive backs. And I think in the 922 00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:48,920 Speaker 1: early installment of these mocks, this this was something that 923 00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:51,759 Speaker 1: was going top five, and I think that it's gonna 924 00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:54,040 Speaker 1: be I think with some of these cornerbacks that they've 925 00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:56,120 Speaker 1: they've been all over the place, I think it's gonna 926 00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:57,719 Speaker 1: be a matter of preference. But I mean, this is 927 00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:01,040 Speaker 1: a this is a guy that's super athletic, fits the 928 00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:02,960 Speaker 1: mold of what you want in a cornerback, and it's 929 00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:06,600 Speaker 1: the the L s U. The tradition that they have 930 00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:09,360 Speaker 1: of just consistently churning out these kind of guys. You 931 00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:12,440 Speaker 1: mentioned it with Williams, you know, being a being some 932 00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:15,279 Speaker 1: top five talk at one time. And it's early, this 933 00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:19,000 Speaker 1: is we're eleven weeks out from from draft day. Um, 934 00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:22,440 Speaker 1: but I take a look at at Greedy Williams and 935 00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:26,840 Speaker 1: some of these guys falling, and obviously quarterback is a 936 00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:28,600 Speaker 1: position of need for a number of teams, and that's 937 00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:31,640 Speaker 1: why we're talking about three quarterbacks and four quarterbacks maybe 938 00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:34,680 Speaker 1: off the board. But you know, it's an offensive line draft. 939 00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:37,600 Speaker 1: It's a defensive line draft too, And and you just 940 00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:40,959 Speaker 1: wonder how many teams are are gonna just go best 941 00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:45,240 Speaker 1: available or there have a specific need going into this draft, 942 00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:48,120 Speaker 1: and they're willing to overlook maybe a guy who's ranked 943 00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:50,960 Speaker 1: much higher because they have a need at that at 944 00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:53,560 Speaker 1: a specific position. Yeah, And and it's it's interesting because 945 00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:56,279 Speaker 1: you know, most teams don't draft dvs at number four 946 00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:58,279 Speaker 1: like the Browns did last year. This is the more 947 00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:02,160 Speaker 1: this is, the more normal you see corners going. And 948 00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:05,120 Speaker 1: I think it's I think one of these guys could slip, 949 00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:07,080 Speaker 1: and I think that the Browns would not hesitate. I 950 00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:09,839 Speaker 1: think that that is a position even though the team 951 00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:13,719 Speaker 1: has done so much work to fix that defensive backfield. 952 00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:16,480 Speaker 1: You bring in a dude defensive coordinator, he's got a 953 00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:19,600 Speaker 1: big experience with with defensive backs. You wonder how much 954 00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:23,000 Speaker 1: his input, his his feelings will matter when it comes 955 00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:25,319 Speaker 1: to these picks, guys that he might like and really 956 00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:27,879 Speaker 1: thinks can fit in his system. And if you get 957 00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:32,200 Speaker 1: another top corner to put alongside Denzel Award, you're in 958 00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:35,200 Speaker 1: really good shape. I totally agree. You cannot have enough 959 00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:38,000 Speaker 1: defensive backs. Yeah, I mean you saw it. I mean 960 00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:40,400 Speaker 1: Terrence Mitchell that was having a great season and then 961 00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:42,759 Speaker 1: it just went away and he didn't even have a 962 00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:47,360 Speaker 1: normal defensive back injury. I mean, these guys usually have hamstrings, ankles, 963 00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:50,839 Speaker 1: Denzel concussions happen a lot with these guys. He didn't 964 00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:53,320 Speaker 1: even have a traditional injury. I think outside of that injury, 965 00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:55,440 Speaker 1: I thought the Browns are main kind of healthy at 966 00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:58,160 Speaker 1: that position, relatively compared to a lot of our teams. 967 00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:00,399 Speaker 1: Where I remember back in two thousand fifth team when 968 00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:03,040 Speaker 1: the Browns went up to Pittsburgh with maybe the worst 969 00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:06,239 Speaker 1: cast of defensive backs that they could have possibly had 970 00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:09,800 Speaker 1: out there and gave up five yards plus a hundred 971 00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:12,480 Speaker 1: more past interference charts. I mean it can get one 972 00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:15,759 Speaker 1: injury can just ruin your entire game plan. What are 973 00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:19,000 Speaker 1: your guys telling you about Jonah Williams offensive linement from Alabama? 974 00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:22,200 Speaker 1: Maurice Jones Drew has him coming to the Cleveland Broke. Yeah, 975 00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:24,640 Speaker 1: I mean he's He's another one that was early on 976 00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:29,279 Speaker 1: projected a lot higher. And I think the the polarizing 977 00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:33,080 Speaker 1: aspect of Jonah Williams is that there are some people 978 00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:35,000 Speaker 1: out there that don't think he can play left tackle 979 00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:37,600 Speaker 1: in the NFL and that would be better suited as 980 00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:41,000 Speaker 1: an interior lineman. Uh. I don't know if I fall 981 00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:43,680 Speaker 1: in that line thinking I think he's really good. This 982 00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:47,200 Speaker 1: more makes me think, what what is the future of 983 00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:51,640 Speaker 1: these mock drafts gonna look like? When? If when we 984 00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:54,720 Speaker 1: think and if it happens that the Browns resigned Gregor Robinson, 985 00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:57,439 Speaker 1: So does all of a sudden that take offensive tackle 986 00:47:57,440 --> 00:47:59,400 Speaker 1: away from the Browns? Because I don't know if it 987 00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:01,440 Speaker 1: affects it one way or the other. I think if 988 00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:04,600 Speaker 1: if clearly the best player available as a tackle, you 989 00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:07,759 Speaker 1: go and get it. Because Austin Corbett is clearly not 990 00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:09,680 Speaker 1: going to be your left tackle moving forward. He's he's 991 00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:12,000 Speaker 1: he's lined up to be an interior alignement for this 992 00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:14,480 Speaker 1: team in the future. Greg Robinson had a really good 993 00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:17,480 Speaker 1: season last year worthy of an extension. But do you 994 00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:20,800 Speaker 1: tie tie everything into him being your left tackle and 995 00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:23,920 Speaker 1: maybe Desmond Harrison emerging as well? Do you is that? 996 00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:25,719 Speaker 1: Are you good with that? Or do you do you 997 00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:28,719 Speaker 1: add another piece to ship? Yeah, so's it's it's something 998 00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:31,120 Speaker 1: that will I am. I imagine that the reaction in 999 00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:33,719 Speaker 1: these mock drafts will need to take tackle away from 1000 00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:35,960 Speaker 1: Brown's if they resigned Greg Robinson, But I don't know 1001 00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:38,879 Speaker 1: if that's necessarily the case. All Right, Gribbs, Episode one 1002 00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:42,719 Speaker 1: of eleven is officially in the books. Next week we 1003 00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:46,160 Speaker 1: will bring you our our Combined preview and then two 1004 00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:49,719 Speaker 1: weeks from now, uh, it'll be our NFL Combined show 1005 00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:52,839 Speaker 1: from Indianapolis. Will do the podcast from Indianapolis and uh, 1006 00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:55,160 Speaker 1: hoping for some big names to join us there, and 1007 00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:57,959 Speaker 1: you know, hopefully next week we'll give you a little 1008 00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:01,480 Speaker 1: insider perspective of what the thought processes from this building 1009 00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:03,920 Speaker 1: going into the draft. Yeah, it's the combine is so 1010 00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:06,760 Speaker 1: much more than what you see on TV, and we'll 1011 00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:08,520 Speaker 1: try to provide some inset on on what goes on. 1012 00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:11,920 Speaker 1: We want to thank Charles Davis from the NFL Network 1013 00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:15,080 Speaker 1: and Fox. We want to thank Nathan Ziggura for my 1014 00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:18,200 Speaker 1: co host Andrew Gribble. I'm Jason Gibbs. Thanks for listening 1015 00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:20,120 Speaker 1: to the best podcast available