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Speaker 1: Okay. Kathy Wakhiole is great. I liked her.

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Speaker 2: She was a good example of a housewife, like a Jacqueline,

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Speaker 2: where she got a little dirty and she got a

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Speaker 2: little bit into the mess, but not too much. Like

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Speaker 2: she could have been a friend. Maybe she started as

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Speaker 2: a friend or she was I don't even know, but

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Speaker 2: she could have been a friend. But like she was

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Speaker 2: entertaining and very likable. And I liked her husband. And

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Speaker 2: I think I liked her kids. I mean they were younger,

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Speaker 2: but I liked her vibe. I liked her husband. I

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Speaker 2: liked her kids.

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Speaker 1: I liked her inclusion.

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Speaker 2: I liked her I just I just liked her. I

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Speaker 2: don't know if she was part of Sprinkle Cookies. I

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Speaker 2: think she might have been, but like I liked her. So.

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Speaker 1: Kavi Wakhiole has a.

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Speaker 2: Restaurant called Pizza Love. It's still there. That's entirely massive,

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Speaker 2: that's a huge success. It's twenty twenty three, open in

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Speaker 2: twenty seventeen. I don't know the numbers they're doing, but

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Speaker 2: just to have a business that's working and functioning and

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Speaker 2: still happening, it might bring her personal joy. It's probably

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Speaker 2: a place her family can come and it's it's a

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Speaker 2: restaurants not shuddered, and we just survived the pandemic. So

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Speaker 2: to me, let's give that an a. No matter what

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Speaker 2: it is. If they make fifty dollars a year, it's

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Speaker 2: still an a to me, that's an a. It's I

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Speaker 2: don't know that I would have a restaurant that would

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Speaker 2: still be open after that many years. So six years

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Speaker 2: a restaurant ding Delicious Little Dessert to Keep Life Real,

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Speaker 2: sweet cookbook she did. Twenty fourteen, she published a book

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Speaker 2: she's known as a dessert expert, that did not make

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Speaker 2: a lot of money because books don't, but it supports

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Speaker 2: her in the space of cooking and entertaining and food

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Speaker 2: and not everything is about making money, and not everything

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Speaker 2: is about profit.

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Speaker 1: It's about supporting the rest of what we do.

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Speaker 2: And I doubt she made money on it, and I

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Speaker 2: doubt it was a New York Times seller, But that

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Speaker 2: doesn't matter because a cookbook is a nice thing as.

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Speaker 1: Part of an overall brand.

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Speaker 2: And she has a restaurant, so now she has some

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Speaker 2: credibility if she has desserts at her restaurant.

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Speaker 1: Which I'm going to assume she does. I just like it.

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Speaker 2: It's well rounded, she has kids, she's probably an empty

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Speaker 2: nester now. I just I'm finding that to be also successful. Okay,

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Speaker 2: mini Cannoli packs. She sells Connoli packs on goldbelly dot

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Speaker 2: com and the packs include twenty four mini canoli shells

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Speaker 2: and one bag of pastry cream, So that means they're separate.

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Speaker 2: So the canol shells are crispy and the cream is separate.

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Speaker 2: That also feels like a win. I don't know that

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Speaker 2: she's making millions of dollars. That also doesn't matter. It

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Speaker 2: sounds like a nice small business. It sounds like they

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Speaker 2: have a balance in life and in business.

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Speaker 1: I like it.

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Speaker 2: The Canoli packs on gold Belly are supported by the

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Speaker 2: Dessert cookbook. Even if she gave it out to people

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Speaker 2: like as credibility or had it in a restaurant, these

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Speaker 2: things all pair very nicely. Anything that Kathy Wachille should

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Speaker 2: do should be surrounding this food. She could go into beverage.

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Speaker 2: I think she tried, We're gonna get into that. But like,

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Speaker 2: this is nice, this is like hardy, this is home,

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Speaker 2: this is this is sweet, this is Italian, this is

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Speaker 2: very approachable, this is very mom.

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Speaker 1: I like it.

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Speaker 2: This is on brand for who I think she is.

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Speaker 2: She's supportive, she'd always like you my posts. I comment back,

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Speaker 2: I like her. I like this picasso. So those three

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Speaker 2: I'm giving her an A and a. I'm giving her

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Speaker 2: an A on her little on I say little, not belittling,

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Speaker 2: like give. I'm giving her an a on her small

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Speaker 2: food business. This is the biggest surprise I've had yet

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Speaker 2: at Housewives University, because when I heard we're gonna do

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Speaker 2: Kathy wi Chilly, I thought to myself, I don't I

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Speaker 2: like her. I don't want to give her a bad grade,

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Speaker 2: like she's in my class, and I want to give

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Speaker 2: her a chance for extra credit points. So far, Kathy

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Speaker 2: Wikilly in what I'm defining as a business that she

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Speaker 2: probably set out to be. Listen, I'm sure she'd love

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Speaker 2: to be a billionaire. Many people would love to have

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Speaker 2: their own plane. Doesn't matter. This is a small successful business.

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Speaker 2: I'm giving this an I knew Kathy Wakuille quote unquote

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Speaker 2: for the show. You need to be always pushing story.

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Speaker 2: You need to have something on the show. You're on TV.

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Speaker 2: You want to make it meaningful, you want to make

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Speaker 2: it relevant. It makes sense that she wants to get

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Speaker 2: into the cocktail business thanks to me, who invented the

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Speaker 2: skinny margarita and made it cool for celebrities to market

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Speaker 2: products and made every housewives. Every housewife copy me. I

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Speaker 2: don't like copycats. I don't blame Kathy Achille one bit

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Speaker 2: because I like her and I don't care. I don't care,

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Speaker 2: So she did the red velvet Cosmo. Many things to

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Speaker 2: grade here. First of all, a Cosmopolitan is niche and

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Speaker 2: ready to drink. It's not a margarita. It's not as popular.

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Speaker 2: It's not as popular as wine. She didn't do a

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Speaker 2: lot of data research. A Cosmopolitan is like an extracute

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Speaker 2: little flavor to have on the side. It's like you're

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Speaker 2: gonna have white chocolate, macadamia nuts cookies. That's not gonna

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Speaker 2: be your hero cookie. That's that's a that's a side cookie,

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Speaker 2: pistachio chocolate chip cookie. It's gonna be great, it'll be

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Speaker 2: a fan favorite and if it goes viral, maybe, but

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Speaker 2: it's not your mainstay hero cookie. It's something that is

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Speaker 2: just like on the side. So a Cosmopolitan to start with,

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Speaker 2: is a supporting role flavor in any scenario. It's a

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Speaker 2: supporting role flavor in cocktails, Ready to drink cocktails, which

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Speaker 2: I created. This market is supporting role in the cocktail industry.

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Speaker 2: So now you've got a supporting roll ready to drink cocktail.

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Speaker 2: You've got a supporting role flavor with Cosmopolitan. Now you've

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Speaker 2: made it even more niche. Now it's a red velvet Cosmopolitan.

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Speaker 2: So it's a niche, niche, niche product. It's confusing. Now

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Speaker 2: it's marketed is like it's like a dessert drink. It

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Speaker 2: makes sense because she has a dessert line, but it's

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Speaker 2: just so niche that it should be something that was

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Speaker 2: just sold on gold belly, which you can't probably with

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Speaker 2: alcohol or in her restaurant. It should just be like

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Speaker 2: a marketing supportive role member. You can't buy it and

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Speaker 2: stores are online because it's just it's not a It

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Speaker 2: won't support. There's not gonna be enough distribution. You can't

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Speaker 2: move this. You're not gonna make money on this. Liquor

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Speaker 2: is intense and competitive, and I'm giving her we're starting

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Speaker 2: off with an F, but she's gonna earn grades back.

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Speaker 2: She gets starts with an F because it's just so

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Speaker 2: niche and not marketable because it's red velvet and it

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Speaker 2: supports her original dessert business. We're going to a D.

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Speaker 2: The combination of red velvet and Cosmopolitan is not good.

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Speaker 2: It's just because I like her. She's getting a D

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Speaker 2: plus C minus, like a dplus C minus for this.

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Speaker 1: So she had an A and a an A and

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Speaker 1: a C plus.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how to I don't know how to

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Speaker 2: combine those grades, but will say an A C plus

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Speaker 2: equals no, A C minus. She's an A N A

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Speaker 2: C minus equals on. I didn't go to Harvard. I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna fail the university. But it's probably like a B

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Speaker 2: minus ish, and then you have an A and a

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Speaker 2: B minus ish.

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Speaker 1: Let's just make it like.

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Speaker 2: A B and then the B all right, so she's

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Speaker 2: still Let's just say she's getting like a B because

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Speaker 2: of this red vealve, this red velvet Cosmo is dragging

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Speaker 2: her her average down. Goddess Eye jewelry launch Deceummer can

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Speaker 2: no longer find online. Portion of the sales went to

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Speaker 2: the National Brain Tumor Society, and the children's were all

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Speaker 2: right brain Tumor Awareness. So gold Goddess I, Julie, I

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Speaker 2: don't understand the connection. It's like an outlier in her

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Speaker 2: overall brand. She's connected it she launched it in twenty eleven.

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Speaker 2: She connected it to charity. I don't love that move.

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Speaker 2: I like charity's charity and shopping is shopping, because I

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Speaker 2: just you're gonna get yourself into trouble. You're gonna be like, oh,

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Speaker 2: we're gonna charge you one hundred something dollars for this jewelry,

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Speaker 2: but X percent and then is it enough?

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Speaker 1: Percent?

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Speaker 2: Is it meaningful? Is it fifty percent? Is it twenty

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Speaker 2: five percent? Is it thirty percent? People have these shopping

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Speaker 2: parties and then a portion goes to the charity. I'm

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Speaker 2: very church and state. I like charity to be charity

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Speaker 2: and making money to be making money. It's a big

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Speaker 2: thing for me. People always want me to come to

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Speaker 2: things that I would normally get paid for, but they'll donate.

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Speaker 1: To my charity.

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Speaker 2: I could donate to my own charity. I could donate

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Speaker 2: to another charity. I like to be paid and I

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Speaker 2: like to donate, and I like them to be separate.

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Speaker 2: So I don't love this goddess Ie jewelry. I don't

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Speaker 2: understand the name. I don't understand the brand. It doesn't

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Speaker 2: connect to the things that she succeeded at. If it

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Speaker 2: was like red velvet jewelry. I don't you know what

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Speaker 2: I mean. I don't know if it if it was rude,

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Speaker 2: I don't know. It's just the jewelry line is not

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Speaker 2: connecting to her main business, and the charity, which is

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Speaker 2: a beautiful charity, is not connecting to the jewelry, and

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Speaker 2: it doesn't feel authentic. So overall, I'm gonna give Kathy

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Speaker 2: Achille a B minus at Housewives University. I'm giving her

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Speaker 2: a C minus for red velvet because it's connected to

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Speaker 2: her main business, so she stayed adjacent. She tried to

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Speaker 2: stay close to food and beverage, which I respect, so

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Speaker 2: AAA and C minus, so let's just call it a

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Speaker 2: C to make it even AAA and C. Yeah, I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna give Kathy w kill Like a B slash B

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Speaker 2: minus at housews University, which is a great grade. It's

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Speaker 2: ironically one of the top grades we've given out at

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Speaker 2: Housewes University.

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Speaker 1: Who would have thought