1 00:00:01,560 --> 00:00:04,320 Speaker 1: It's the best of two pros and a couple Joe 2 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 1: with Labar Aarings, Rady Winn and Jonas Knox on Box Radio. 3 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:18,759 Speaker 2: Now, you mentioned Ole Miss earlier. So there is a 4 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:23,120 Speaker 2: story that we discussed about the ultimatum that was put 5 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:27,160 Speaker 2: out there. Reportedly, there was this ultimatum they told Lane Kiffin, 6 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 2: did old miss Brass, Hey, you got to the egg bowl, 7 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:32,159 Speaker 2: make a decision. We want to know whether or not 8 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 2: you're going to be here, whether or not you're going 9 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:36,879 Speaker 2: to take some job elsewhere. So Lane Kiffin was on 10 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:40,239 Speaker 2: the Pat McAfee show yesterday starring AJ Hawk, and he 11 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:44,559 Speaker 2: addressed the rumors that there was an ultimatum put on 12 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 2: him by Ole Miss. 13 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 3: That's absolutely not true. There's been no ultimating anything like 14 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 3: that at all. And so I don't know where that 15 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 3: came from. Like a lot of stuff that comes out there. 16 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 3: Like I said, man, we're having a blast. I love 17 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 3: it here. 18 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 4: So yes, hold on, hold on, Yeah, we cut that short. 19 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 4: He had the running back Lacy in the room with him. 20 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:08,320 Speaker 4: He 'ks like a running backs fight here with me. 21 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 4: He calls me, He's like, come on over. He calls 22 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:12,479 Speaker 4: him over into the shot and they're like both sitting 23 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 4: there kind of talking and hang out. He must have 24 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:16,040 Speaker 4: been just meeting with him, so it was kind of 25 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 4: a wild scenario, just you know what exactly he had 26 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 4: going on at that. 27 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 5: Point in time of the day. 28 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:23,960 Speaker 4: But he's he feels like a very open and honest 29 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 4: guy about what's happening. 30 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 2: And now ESPN reported that their athletic director, Keith Carter, 31 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:32,399 Speaker 2: has asked for a decision by this upcoming weekend, so 32 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 2: not the Egg Bowl weekend, which would be the following weekend, 33 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 2: but this upcoming weekend. So it feels like there's mixed 34 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 2: messages that have come out to where he's saying there 35 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 2: was no ultimatum, but ESPN's reporting there has been an ultimatum, 36 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 2: and it seems like they're looking for answers here as 37 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 2: quick as possible. 38 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 4: So, well, it's not like that came out of nowhere, right. 39 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 4: Did somebody just like want to make up a rumor 40 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 4: that there is an ultimatum given or a timeline given? 41 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 5: Is that how? I mean? It's not how it really works. 42 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 5: People don't make up stuff. 43 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 2: You heard it from somewhere, and by the way, I 44 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 2: don't there's not a knock on old miss I can 45 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 2: understand their thought, like, hey man, we want to know 46 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 2: whether or not you're you're here for the long term 47 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 2: or not. I just look at it and I go, well, 48 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 2: this kind of sucks for the players there because they're 49 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:21,640 Speaker 2: in contention to maybe win a national championship. They're in 50 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:24,079 Speaker 2: the college football playoff as it stands right now, they've 51 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 2: got a game left in the regular season, they're in 52 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 2: their bye week, and instead you know, resting up and 53 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 2: getting ready for you know, the finale and to go 54 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 2: on and do big things, they've got to wonder whether 55 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 2: or not their coach is going to be around by 56 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 2: this weekend. 57 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:42,079 Speaker 6: Well think about it this way too. You know, all 58 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:46,919 Speaker 6: these other coaches that were in demand, what happened they 59 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 6: were given extensions? 60 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 7: Like maybe maybe my man. 61 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:57,519 Speaker 6: Laying Kiffin is sitting there like hey man, like yeah, 62 00:02:57,520 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 6: I acted like y'all. 63 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 7: Want to know what I'm gonna do. I'm under track. 64 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 4: Well, I think I think there's one in place, but 65 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 4: that wouldn't be announced until he makes a decision if 66 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 4: he's staying or not. 67 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 5: If he stays, he'll he'll Yeah. 68 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 4: I think what's interesting about this because there might be 69 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 4: a job or two that comes open there's some people 70 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:23,519 Speaker 4: speculating Florida State. 71 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 5: When they come open at the end of the season. Uh, 72 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 5: that would add to that list. 73 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 4: To me, it's about is Elaine potentially being patient because 74 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 4: he's looking at the NFL. You know, people tend to 75 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 4: forget he he did have a short stint he did 76 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 4: with with the Raiders a time ago. It was extremely short. 77 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 4: He made it through one season and four games I 78 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 4: think the next before it was fired. And you do 79 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 4: have some some jobs open that I think, whether it's Tennessee, 80 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 4: whether it's the New York Giants, that there might be 81 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 4: some teams that are interested in and maybe giving him 82 00:03:57,160 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 4: another shot. He's had a lot of head coaching experiance 83 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 4: between the Raiders back into what two thousand and seven, 84 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 4: two thousand and eight that you know Tennessee granted only 85 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 4: for a year USC Florida Atlantic Old Miss. 86 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 5: I mean, he's a. 87 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 4: Different guy and maybe there's an opportunity or someone some 88 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:17,280 Speaker 4: people are talking to him, they're you know, telling him 89 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 4: about what he thinks. You know, maybe there's an opportunity 90 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 4: to be patient and wait for some of these NFL jobs. 91 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:27,479 Speaker 4: And he's able to do that by continually to be patient. 92 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 4: Let the season play itself out, you know, to your point, 93 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:32,159 Speaker 4: he's got a chance to play for the College f 94 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:34,280 Speaker 4: Wall playoffs. They're almost assuredly going to be end they 95 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 4: play Mississippi State next week in the eight Bowl, and 96 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:39,480 Speaker 4: even if they don't make the SEC championship game, which 97 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 4: it doesn't appear they're going to, they would still get 98 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 4: in with their current resume. So they are going to 99 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 4: be a playoff team. They're gonna have a chance to 100 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 4: play for a national championship. There's no reason to maybe 101 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 4: rush this outside of if you're Old Miss, because they've 102 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 4: got to potentially go find a new head coach, and 103 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 4: that might have been something that didn't dawn on them, 104 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 4: you know, coming into the season, and now it's drastically changed. 105 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 4: But I do wonder how or if the NFL angle 106 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:10,280 Speaker 4: on things is playing any role whatsoever, and him waiting, 107 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 4: and this isn't just about him his family and him 108 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 4: deciding between LSU Florida and Old Miss. This is more 109 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 4: really about him potentially looking at trying to get to 110 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 4: the next level. Maybe he's a coach that saying I 111 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:24,159 Speaker 4: don't want to have to deal with the nil stuff anymore, 112 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 4: and all that I'd rather just go to the pros. 113 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:30,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, and his former quarterbacks sitting up there in New 114 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 2: York looking for a head coach this offseason. 115 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:32,920 Speaker 5: So there you go. 116 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:35,360 Speaker 6: I would old miss really do if they if they 117 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 6: self imposed, uh you know, a due date for him 118 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 6: to make a decision. 119 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 7: What are you going to do? 120 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 2: They can fire him, what are you going to do? 121 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 7: Like, I'm not ready to make a decision yet. 122 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 2: You're fired, okay, you know. 123 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 7: What I mean? Yeah, I don't see I don't see 124 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 7: playing out that way. 125 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:57,719 Speaker 4: So even then, it's it's like it's like, you know, 126 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 4: you it's one of those threat that you know there's 127 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 4: there's nothing behind it, right. I mean it's almost like 128 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:05,599 Speaker 4: when you're a parent and you've got kids and you 129 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 4: like you threaten your kid and the kid looks at you, 130 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 4: well yeah, but they're like they're not. It doesn't work 131 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 4: anymore because the problem is they know they're in a 132 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 4: certain place where like you can't really discipline them if 133 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:18,720 Speaker 4: you want to, and they know it, so like they 134 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:20,839 Speaker 4: kind of look at you and and Jones is going 135 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:22,920 Speaker 4: to get there at some point. I don't know that 136 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 4: your son's there quite yet. Your kids will get to 137 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:29,480 Speaker 4: an age where they become very aware of the safe 138 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:31,720 Speaker 4: zones of where they can be, where they can be disciplined, 139 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 4: and where they can't. 140 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:33,920 Speaker 5: I mean, var tell. 141 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:37,279 Speaker 6: Them, oh, man, look my three two ones used to 142 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:43,480 Speaker 6: be three two. Wouldn't even make it the one. Then 143 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 6: they get a little older, then it's like three. 144 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 7: Two. Then they get a little older, then it's like three. 145 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 2: Three two. I said, too, one and a half. 146 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 6: I said, I said too, you get the one. And 147 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 6: they were still coming now today with the last one 148 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 6: at ten years old. It's it's it's really just like 149 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 6: if if my voice inflection isn't like for real, for real, 150 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 6: like for some strange reason, his voice sounds like he 151 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 6: is really really upset, then you know she doesn't. It doesn't. 152 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 6: It doesn't work. That's the point. At some point, you know, 153 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 6: the whole then you get you better get over here 154 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 6: type type talk that it doesn't work, it doesn't work, 155 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 6: so ultimatums. Now it just seems like that's that's empty 156 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 6: calories for old miss right now, you know, because they're 157 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 6: they're sitting there like three. 158 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 7: Three. 159 00:07:57,200 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 4: By the way, I also feel like it's it's for 160 00:07:59,880 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 4: like relationships that aren't gonna last, like if old missus 161 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 4: Gamie Lane Kiff an ultimatum now, and they don't think 162 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 4: that this is going to come up in the future. 163 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 7: It's a great point. 164 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 4: That's just like if you hear a couple, you know, 165 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 4: you're talking to him, They're like, oh, yeah, he gave 166 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 4: me an ultimatum, It's like, yes, probably gonna work out. 167 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 5: Like, well, let's be real. It's just that whole. 168 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 6: Point, Like, can't guys just jump on top of extensions now, 169 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 6: like if they really wanted to. There's a coach that 170 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:32,199 Speaker 6: a school really wanted an extension. I mean, are you 171 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 6: are you legally off the off the table for how long? 172 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:39,319 Speaker 6: Like is there an extending amount of time or is 173 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 6: it come back? There's always going to be a buyout, right. 174 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:45,959 Speaker 4: Yeah, well correct, But if you look at the James 175 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:50,440 Speaker 4: Franklin situation, James Franklin had to actively be searching for 176 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:55,839 Speaker 4: another job and then technically not get it if he 177 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 4: was going to get the full payout from Penn State. 178 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 4: So that's why the settlement only end up nine million 179 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 4: because of what he was offered. Is now the head 180 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:06,680 Speaker 4: coach of Virginia Tech. So if you craft like Pat 181 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 4: crafted the contract, right, you can mitigate some of what 182 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:14,959 Speaker 4: you're gonna be, you know, putting out there now if 183 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 4: you're someone like Louis. 184 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 7: The contract though I think that might have been Sandy Barrow. 185 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 5: Might have been before him or someone. But either way, 186 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 5: oh get credit for it. 187 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 7: Now. 188 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 4: If you look at Louisiana a different story. You know, 189 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 4: Brian Kelly's coming for all fifty four million, every single dollar, 190 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 4: and I'm not sure if he's gonna get hired or not. 191 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 4: I think I think, I do think Brian Kelly is 192 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 4: a good coach. I know it did not work out 193 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 4: at LSU, and maybe he had a ceiling both at 194 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 4: LSU and Notre Dame. But I do think he's proven 195 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 4: he can coach at smaller schools and be able to 196 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 4: get the most out of it. But maybe he doesn't 197 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:52,560 Speaker 4: want to anymore, at least it sounds like it from 198 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 4: some of the reports of what was What do you. 199 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 7: Mean him and his family is donet winning? 200 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean a lot of things going on there, 201 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 4: but a lot of fine wine and golfing going on. 202 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and 203 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 1: a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington and 204 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:15,719 Speaker 1: Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern three am Pacific 205 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. 206 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 8: Hey, we're Cavino and Rich Fox Sports Radio every day 207 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 8: five to seven pm Eastern. 208 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:25,319 Speaker 2: But here's the thing. 209 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 8: We never have enough time to get to everything we 210 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 8: want to get to. 211 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:30,840 Speaker 9: And that's why we have a brand new podcast called 212 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 9: over Promised. 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Listen to over 232 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 9: Promised with Cavino and Rich on the iHeartRadio app, Apple 233 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 9: Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. 234 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 2: The Aaron Rodgers situation is this, they don't know whether 235 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 2: or not he's going to be able to play this 236 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 2: weekend against the team he's part owner of the Bears. Uh, 237 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:37,320 Speaker 2: He's got a fracture in his left wrist. Mike Tomlin 238 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:41,319 Speaker 2: calls it a functional thing. You know, it's about seeing 239 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:43,679 Speaker 2: how functional he can be with it. But there's going 240 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 2: to be no surgery. They're probably going to try and 241 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 2: brace it up and we will see. They should know 242 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:51,319 Speaker 2: sometime later this week whether or not he's going to 243 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 2: give it, give it a go this Sunday. 244 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:56,199 Speaker 7: But this week, I mean it is Wednesday. 245 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:59,440 Speaker 6: Yeah, Like if you don't generally, if you don't know 246 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:04,200 Speaker 6: by today, like by today's end, you gotta I mean, 247 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 6: you got to make sure you're preparing the person that's 248 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:11,959 Speaker 6: going to play. You know, I would assume that they 249 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:15,680 Speaker 6: got to figure out what that assumption is most likely, 250 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:21,719 Speaker 6: Like today Thursday. You super late. You're super late. If 251 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 6: he's a late scratch. You know, if you come to 252 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 6: the conclusion on Friday that hell, if you come to 253 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:33,080 Speaker 6: the conclusion on Sunday that he isn't going to play, 254 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 6: you had better have been preparing. Whoever the backup is 255 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 6: going to be to play the game. 256 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 2: Well yeah, I mean they probably do know, but they're 257 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 2: not gonna publicly state anything. They're going to try and 258 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 2: keep the Bears guessing, which you know. 259 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:53,320 Speaker 7: I mean, the Bears all of a sudden are a 260 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:56,080 Speaker 7: team that you have to be concerned about. 261 00:12:56,600 --> 00:13:04,439 Speaker 2: That's crazy, don't think so A lot of Look, I mean, 262 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 2: what happened to. 263 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:08,439 Speaker 5: Minnisod this is your reverse psychology. 264 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 2: It's not reverse psychology. 265 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 5: It is. 266 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:14,679 Speaker 2: If you watch the games like a lot of these 267 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 2: results should have gone the other way. I mean, give 268 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:19,319 Speaker 2: them credit. The old Bears teams would have figured out 269 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 2: way to lose these games. But they're figuring out ways 270 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 2: to win uh close games somehow someway, and they're sitting 271 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 2: atop the division. But I can't imagine what the schedule 272 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:30,680 Speaker 2: coming up, this is going to continue on. 273 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 6: Nonetheless, even what you're reasoning, it does seem to be 274 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:38,439 Speaker 6: a team that you should be concerned with. I mean, 275 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:40,960 Speaker 6: just as what it is, Jonah, So take it and 276 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:42,960 Speaker 6: enjoy it while you have it. You know, he knows 277 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 6: how long it'll last. 278 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 2: Well, we talked about this that if you were going 279 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:49,080 Speaker 2: to try and buy him some time and rest him 280 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:51,560 Speaker 2: with this injury, this would be the game that would 281 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:52,320 Speaker 2: make the most. 282 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 7: Sense because all of a sudden. 283 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 2: Well, no, because it's it's an NFC opponent, it's not 284 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 2: going to factor into afe seating or standings or tiebreakers. 285 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 2: Why not just save him for a week and get 286 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 2: him back the following week and then you've had a 287 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:11,320 Speaker 2: division game after that, you know, in two weeks like 288 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 2: that seems like it would make more sense as opposed 289 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 2: to rush him out there, and God forbid, something further happens, 290 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 2: and then you're gonna have to go with Mason Rudolph 291 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 2: in a couple of AFC games, which could be factoring 292 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 2: big to the playoff seating. 293 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 7: And they got a. 294 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 6: Rough stretch after I mean, you could consider the Beers 295 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 6: a rough stretch now considering how they're playing. They got 296 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 6: the Bills and they have the Ravens. The Dolphins have 297 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 6: been feisty, They have been fighting. They don't have the 298 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 6: easiest of schedule, you know, in terms of the rest 299 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 6: of the way. But I could see where you would say, Okay, 300 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 6: we got the Bills and then we definitely have a 301 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 6: tilt with the Ravens and that could be a very 302 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 6: very you know, obviously a lot riding on that game. 303 00:14:57,600 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 7: So but you know, I don't know. He has owned the. 304 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 6: Bears, he has been largely in part adorable quarterback. I 305 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 6: think there's so much riding on this for him. If 306 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 6: he can go, he's going to go. I don't see 307 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 6: him being rested just because of the risk. I think 308 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 6: we'll know if he can do it or if he 309 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 6: can't do it, it'll most likely probably be reported on 310 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 6: more so today. If not, then again they better be 311 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 6: preparing who's going to you know, play in his place, 312 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 6: and then concentrate on making sure they get him healthy 313 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 6: for that those next two games. 314 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's interesting. 315 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 4: I would consider in Rogers durable too, right, all the 316 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 4: stuff he's played through there there have been no seasons though, 317 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:52,280 Speaker 4: I mean the Jets obviously, the torn Achilles. You know, 318 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 4: he missed some times back in like twenty seventeen, he 319 00:15:56,760 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 4: missed a big chunk of that season before that, Yeah, 320 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 4: there's been spots where like he's missed a good chunk 321 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 4: of time for some injuries. I don't think this is that. 322 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 4: But look, this one will come down to a few things. 323 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 4: Every single player when they have an injury that doesn't 324 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 4: need immediate surgery, like there might be something he's needed 325 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 4: down the road, but in this case, it's just about 326 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 4: the healing process of the bones. You know, there's a 327 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 4: couple of things. It's pain tolerance and you know, can 328 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 4: you make it worse? Like are you willing to play 329 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 4: with an injury that could potentially get worse depending on 330 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 4: what you do to it? And you've got to make 331 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 4: that decision of you know, how do you want to 332 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 4: handle the pain? 333 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 5: All right? 334 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 4: As LeVar has pointed out, there is a nectar of 335 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 4: the gods, is there not LeVar? So there's ways of 336 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 4: getting yourself out of that pain, but maybe it's not 337 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 4: great for your body. And the other thing is like, 338 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 4: are you okay with a potential chance of making something 339 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 4: worse and not knowing what the long term IMPACT's going 340 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:10,119 Speaker 4: to be on your health and wellness? You know, that's 341 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:13,879 Speaker 4: those are things that like I think most players in 342 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:16,359 Speaker 4: the moment they usually sign up for it. Shoot me up, 343 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:18,880 Speaker 4: let me go play. I'll deal with the consequences later. 344 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:22,680 Speaker 4: But you know, being someone after the fact, you kind 345 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 4: of go all right, you know, maybe he's old enough 346 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 4: now too, at forty two years old, you know, years 347 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 4: of age where he understands, you know what this means 348 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:35,719 Speaker 4: long term for him, based on how his body feels 349 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 4: now from all the where and tear it's taken in 350 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 4: the early parts of his career some of those other 351 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 4: years I mentioned, So all those things are taken into consideration. 352 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 4: But I do think if you're Pittsburgh, it's really about 353 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 4: you win in the division, So forget conference games and 354 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:53,359 Speaker 4: all that, just win your division, man, And that's I 355 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 4: would think the amount of time they'd want him to 356 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 4: stay out to be able to heal a little bit. 357 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:01,679 Speaker 2: How often do they test for weed during the regular 358 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 2: season in. 359 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 4: The NFL, Well, they don't unless you're in the program. 360 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:12,440 Speaker 4: So typically for street drugs or something like weed, there's 361 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 4: two tests. There's a window in the spring and there 362 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:17,439 Speaker 4: was a window around training camp and once you have 363 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:21,119 Speaker 4: your annual test, which, by the way, the threshold for 364 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 4: that has been increased to the point where it'd be 365 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:30,639 Speaker 4: really you know, it might be tough for some guys 366 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 4: even to test positive. But I digress. You take that 367 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:37,240 Speaker 4: test at some point, and by the way, if you 368 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 4: don't get it in the spring, you know what's coming 369 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 4: in training camp. So for guys who are habitual smokers 370 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:46,120 Speaker 4: like that, when they get popped, it's the dumbest thing 371 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:49,439 Speaker 4: in the world because they're essentially saying, well, they know 372 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:52,359 Speaker 4: what's coming, and like, I can't sacrifice for three weeks 373 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:55,959 Speaker 4: not doing it to get through my test, so then 374 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 4: I can the rest of the season. Like I always 375 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 4: would look at players who got pop for that and 376 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 4: thought to myself, I don't know if I can throw 377 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 4: them the ball. I don't know if I can trust them, 378 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 4: because if they can't make this sort of decision, that's 379 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 4: going to impact another eleven months of their life. Like 380 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 4: I don't it just they're not a very smart player. 381 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:19,399 Speaker 4: But that's roughly the the protocol for the testing on it. 382 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 2: So here's why I ask Aaron Rodgers is a guy 383 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:28,119 Speaker 2: who likes alternative methods to dealing with pain. Okay, well, 384 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:31,600 Speaker 2: I mean he's the same guy. He doesn't He doesn't 385 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 2: use air pod pro or the the AirPods because he 386 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 2: doesn't like he feels like the five G or whatever 387 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:40,920 Speaker 2: you know is bad for your brain. 388 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:43,879 Speaker 5: It's the bluetooth. That's nothing to do with five G. 389 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 2: Well like the air pods he likes the ones. 390 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:48,159 Speaker 5: Yes, it does nothing to do with five G. 391 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:52,360 Speaker 4: I has to deal with the bluetooth technology and the 392 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 4: the radio frequencies, all that stuff. 393 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 2: Whatever it is. He's got beliefs. I'm wondering gesis if 394 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:02,719 Speaker 2: he looks at it and goes, If he looks at 395 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 2: it and goes, you know what, I don't want to 396 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:06,639 Speaker 2: take the tour at all. You know, I'm not interested 397 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 2: in the Nectar of the Gods. 398 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 7: I'm gonna deal hypocritical, Okay. 399 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 6: Hypocritical because he has used, he has used you know, 400 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 6: forms of you know stuff. 401 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 2: But he's learned. Maybe he does. Maybe he doesn't want 402 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 2: to deal with the aftermath. And so I'm just wondering, 403 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 2: is there enough only. 404 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 7: After aftermath from the Nectar of the Gods? 405 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 6: Is you could use another one when you come down 406 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 6: off of it like that? 407 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:42,960 Speaker 2: This is why I ask you, guys are poteads, So 408 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:45,600 Speaker 2: how would you smoke? Recommend? 409 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 7: Never never? 410 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:52,160 Speaker 6: I never popped. I never popped when I smoked like before. 411 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 6: I know, I mean, it's it's always been my business. 412 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:57,400 Speaker 6: But if you know me, you know I'm a rosta man. 413 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:04,639 Speaker 6: I don't you know, but I never how I conduct myself, 414 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 6: how I handle things, you know, it is certainly I don't. 415 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 7: I don't have to have it. 416 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 6: So what I will say that like if it's in 417 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:17,680 Speaker 6: the if you got something that's an addiction, then then 418 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 6: you got to pay attention to it. But if you 419 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:22,239 Speaker 6: have something that is a part, is no different than 420 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:24,119 Speaker 6: if I were to sit down and smoke a cigar, 421 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:25,440 Speaker 6: you know what I mean. 422 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 2: So well, I guess what I'm trying to ask, and 423 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:29,919 Speaker 2: I'll ask it in the way that Brady would ask it. 424 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 2: In the words of Brady Quinn. Oh god, how much 425 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:35,199 Speaker 2: hippie lettuce would you put on that salad? If you 426 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 2: were Aaron Rodgers getting ready for this game. 427 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:40,920 Speaker 5: I would never use such a dorky phrase like. 428 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:42,400 Speaker 7: That, hippie hippie lettuce. 429 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:46,199 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean you used to call it the green wolf, remember, 430 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:47,440 Speaker 4: like that was actually fun. 431 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:50,440 Speaker 7: That sounds pretty good. 432 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 5: Hit way better, Yeah, hit way better. 433 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:55,880 Speaker 7: It's corny. That's the old old school term. 434 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:58,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, so maybe it's not. Maybe it's not the Nectar 435 00:21:58,119 --> 00:21:58,720 Speaker 2: of the Gods. 436 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:01,880 Speaker 6: You know he's it's not going to be the same. 437 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:06,119 Speaker 6: One thing I will tell you is it's not the same. 438 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 6: The Nectar of the Gods is from the gods for 439 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:15,200 Speaker 6: a reason. You're not going to supplement that with something else. 440 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 6: Believe you me. If he plays, there's a very very 441 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 6: strong possibility that that Nectar of the Gods played a 442 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 6: part in why he's going to play this weekend. 443 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:30,920 Speaker 7: That just is what it is, and there's nothing wrong 444 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 7: with that. 445 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 2: So would you play if you were the Steelers looking 446 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 2: at the schedule, would you play? Because the Ravens have 447 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:42,680 Speaker 2: the Jets, so that's a win for Baltimore, so it's 448 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:45,720 Speaker 2: going to get real close. And then after the Bears, 449 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 2: you've got Buffalo, You've got Baltimore. It feels like the 450 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 2: one in a couple of weeks is really going to 451 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:55,960 Speaker 2: factor in big to what the division looks like. But 452 00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 2: if you are the Steelers, would you put him out 453 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 2: there risky injury? Knowing listen, this could turn into a 454 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 2: bigger issue and we've got bigger games coming up after 455 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 2: this one that would mean more. 456 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:09,960 Speaker 7: If he can play, he should play. 457 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:13,480 Speaker 6: If it's if he's in, Like, if he's in some 458 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 6: type of condition where like Q said, he can make 459 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:21,720 Speaker 6: it worse, then you don't play them. But if he 460 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:27,880 Speaker 6: can play, then if it's not as serious as as 461 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 6: it may seem to be, then you ask him if 462 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 6: he can go. Like you, you know, he's he's a 463 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:37,959 Speaker 6: super vet, so he's been around long enough where the 464 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 6: respect factor of asking him how does he feel can 465 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 6: he go? Being based off of what his pain tolerance 466 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:49,879 Speaker 6: level would be would be the bigger question here. So 467 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 6: if but if he can go and he's willing to go, 468 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:54,360 Speaker 6: which I would. 469 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 7: Believe he's poised to go. 470 00:23:56,600 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 6: Start defiicient finish, go coast to coast on this season, 471 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:04,640 Speaker 6: they just got a big win against the divisional opponent, 472 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:08,920 Speaker 6: and that was off of the heels of a disappointing 473 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 6: showing against the. 474 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:12,200 Speaker 7: Chargers. 475 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:18,920 Speaker 6: So I would say he's again he's so close to 476 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 6: putting himself in a position to have legitimized why he 477 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:27,320 Speaker 6: has continued to play. It didn't play out that way 478 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:30,440 Speaker 6: in New York. I think that made it even more 479 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:33,920 Speaker 6: of a deal, and I think he's aware of that. 480 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 6: So I think he's in it to win it. I 481 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:39,479 Speaker 6: don't think he sits out if he can play, that 482 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:42,359 Speaker 6: just furthers the storyline of what we'll say about him 483 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:44,680 Speaker 6: when he's done playing the game that he pushed through 484 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 6: you know, times like these, even as an old hit. 485 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, but do you think that's really going to be 486 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 2: a storyline after it's done, Like, hey man, he sat 487 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 2: up there. 488 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:58,399 Speaker 6: When you're as gifted as as Aaron Rodgers is everything 489 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 6: that happens in and certain parts of your career are 490 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:05,359 Speaker 6: going to be highlighted, So you might as well just 491 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:07,920 Speaker 6: keep putting on you know, putting good things on your 492 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 6: resume as you go, Like, yeah, of course they'll talk 493 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 6: about that. 494 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:12,880 Speaker 7: He'll be one of the most talked. 495 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 6: About quarterbacks once he's done playing, hitting up to his 496 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:18,000 Speaker 6: candidacy into the Hall of Fame. 497 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 7: Yeah, of course you do. Why not. That's what a 498 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:22,400 Speaker 7: legacy is, your memories, you. 499 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 6: Know, the things you left behind. He pushed through, he persevered. 500 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:29,879 Speaker 6: You know, he made it work in Pittsburgh. It's just 501 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,919 Speaker 6: supposed to be a one year experiment coming off of 502 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 6: a very disappointing showing in New York. So he can 503 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 6: right a lot of wrongs by doing, you know, little 504 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:43,119 Speaker 6: things like going out there with a jacked up wrist 505 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 6: and playing and playing well, you know that's what I 506 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:48,199 Speaker 6: would assume. 507 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:53,159 Speaker 2: Well, we'll see what happens, but we'll keep you posting 508 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 2: if the Steelers dropping it. 509 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:57,200 Speaker 6: Why you're so dismissive because they playing the beer? Yeah, 510 00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 6: I just I think you want him to miss the 511 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 6: game to have more of a chance to win. 512 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 7: Is that what it is now? But the underlying reason 513 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:04,880 Speaker 7: for all it. 514 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:07,199 Speaker 2: Is because I'll be honest, man, like, I mean, you 515 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 2: didn't attack the man. 516 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:10,720 Speaker 7: You made it seem like I haven't attacked anything. 517 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:13,240 Speaker 6: You didn't made him seem like he's a weed hit Like, 518 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 6: what what were you? What you got going on? 519 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 2: I was featured in his Netflix documentary. You were so like, 520 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:22,439 Speaker 2: there's no attacking going on here, all right? And you 521 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 2: would know that as a Netflix star yourself, like you 522 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:27,200 Speaker 2: would know that, you know this is how this stuff works. 523 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:30,679 Speaker 2: I mean even Dean Blandino was watching Selling Sunset. 524 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,880 Speaker 7: You know, Q is that not ten dollars? 525 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:36,720 Speaker 4: Ten dollars for you can't find him for everything he says. 526 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 4: I mean, the guy is, you know, try to do 527 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 4: a radio show. 528 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:43,480 Speaker 6: I am caning my heir to the passive aggressive if 529 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:46,920 Speaker 6: of what he does that was ten dollars. But I mean, 530 00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:48,880 Speaker 6: like you said, you could call it. You could call 531 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 6: a penalty every place, so. 532 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:53,920 Speaker 5: Exactly, so I'm gonna let this one. I'm what the slide. 533 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:58,320 Speaker 4: He's in a bit of a you know, frisky mood today. 534 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:02,920 Speaker 7: That was give it's host player whatever. By the way, 535 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:04,360 Speaker 7: you got a good judge. 536 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:05,280 Speaker 5: Today, bruh. 537 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 4: By the way, they I just don't want to hear 538 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:09,880 Speaker 4: him bitch anymore about the fine system. I mean, that's 539 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:13,399 Speaker 4: how cheap Jonas is that he can't pay a thirty 540 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:15,639 Speaker 4: five dollars fine that literally just goes to a dinner 541 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:16,480 Speaker 4: we're all having together. 542 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:17,479 Speaker 7: That's crazy, bro. 543 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:19,680 Speaker 2: I'd rather just do it with the goodness of my heart, 544 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:21,200 Speaker 2: like I don't need to be fined. 545 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 5: Well, you won't do that because you're too damn cheap. 546 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 2: Well no, but because here's here's the three then. 547 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:25,439 Speaker 5: Think about it. 548 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:28,119 Speaker 4: By the way, think about this way all right, Not 549 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:30,359 Speaker 4: to kick a guy when he's down, but the dinner 550 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:32,919 Speaker 4: will be exponentially cheaper because Lee's not there drinking. 551 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 2: Oh geez, I'm just saying. 552 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:38,720 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and 553 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 1: a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn LeVar Errington and 554 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:46,160 Speaker 1: Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern three am Pacific. 555 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:49,440 Speaker 2: There are some good. 556 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 1: Things that happen, and there's some bad and then there's 557 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 1: some downright ugly things. It's time for good, bad and. 558 00:27:58,200 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 7: Ugly all right? 559 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:02,159 Speaker 2: Justin Cooper, who's out? What this week? All right? Brady? 560 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:04,200 Speaker 2: This week we're starting off with you with the good. 561 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, you know it was good last night. 562 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:09,119 Speaker 2: Maction. 563 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:13,240 Speaker 4: That's right, baby, Although Ohio University did not cover that 564 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:17,800 Speaker 4: rather large spread versus UMass, who is making their way 565 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:22,640 Speaker 4: towards a completely defeated winless season. The Bobcats won forty 566 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 4: two to fourteen last night. But how about Akron and 567 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:26,679 Speaker 4: Bowling Green? 568 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:27,920 Speaker 2: I watch that all right? 569 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 5: Yeah you did? You know why? 570 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:32,679 Speaker 4: Because you want to see Ben Finley and Drew Pine 571 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:37,720 Speaker 4: score off two six year quarterbacks. Seven schools between the 572 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 4: two of them. Finley started his career at NC State, 573 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 4: then went to cal now Akron. Drew Pine was remembered 574 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:50,040 Speaker 4: for his time at Notre Dame, made his way to Missoo, 575 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:52,240 Speaker 4: Arizona State, now Bowling Green. 576 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:54,560 Speaker 5: Akron got the best of them. 577 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:57,360 Speaker 4: Eddie George's Boying Green was laying I think two and 578 00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:00,360 Speaker 4: a half and Akron pulled out the three point five victory. 579 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:04,040 Speaker 4: So a lot of good maction last night. That's what 580 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 4: was good. In the word of sports. 581 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 2: Jonas, what you got for the bad? The bad is 582 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 2: looking ahead to this Sunday, and ladies and gentlemen, I 583 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:15,880 Speaker 2: present to you the Browns and the Raiders from Las Vegas, 584 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 2: a combined four and sixteen record between both awful teams 585 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:23,960 Speaker 2: and bad franchises. So for anybody that's got a ticket 586 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:26,200 Speaker 2: or anybody that's out in Vegas, why don't you just 587 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:29,160 Speaker 2: skip that whole thing altogether, stay in Mandalay Bay and 588 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 2: gamble your ass off because it's better than what you're 589 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:34,200 Speaker 2: going to watch this Sunday. Well, that leaves LaVar with 590 00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 2: the ugly. 591 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:39,480 Speaker 6: I'm feeling like I want to go with Steven A 592 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 6: not being on the NBA show. I don't know, I 593 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:46,760 Speaker 6: haven't seen the details of it all yet, but I 594 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 6: just feel like, if he's not on the ESPN NBA show, 595 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 6: will they still show him walking into the arena? 596 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 7: And for that, I feel like that's ugly. 597 00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 2: Man. That's a great point. 598 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 6: Yeah, I'll miss that. 599 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:02,360 Speaker 2: I didn't even know he's not on. 600 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:05,640 Speaker 6: Really, Yeah, it's like a new look NBA show and 601 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:08,240 Speaker 6: he's he's noticeably absent and. 602 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:09,200 Speaker 2: He's out He's not there. 603 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:11,160 Speaker 7: Yeah, he's out there. 604 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:13,040 Speaker 2: You go not watching that one either? 605 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:15,040 Speaker 7: Oh wow, Well there you go. 606 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:18,440 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 607 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio 608 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 1: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to 609 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:29,520 Speaker 1: listen live time to find out. 610 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:31,040 Speaker 7: What's left sounds incredible. 611 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:34,200 Speaker 1: Here's the left. 612 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:35,720 Speaker 2: Over there, Lali Ray, what we got? 613 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:39,280 Speaker 10: Oh, we got a fridge full of yumminis today controversial 614 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 10: yummanis if I let's say, uh, I don't know if 615 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,360 Speaker 10: you guys watched the game in Madrid over the weekend. 616 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:47,959 Speaker 10: The National Anthem outfit, though, is causing a crisis. 617 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 2: Yes. Uh. 618 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:52,800 Speaker 10: The singer wore a black mini dress with a deep neckline, 619 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 10: thy high stockings, garters which are the things that connect 620 00:30:56,520 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 10: your dress to your stockings, stilettos, and all black. 621 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:03,600 Speaker 2: She is receiving heavy backlash. 622 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 7: From NFL faner dress or is it like your like 623 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 7: you know, I. 624 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:09,240 Speaker 2: Thought you were describing Marilyn Manson. 625 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:14,360 Speaker 10: Yeah, it's it's a lot and she's people are comparing 626 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:16,920 Speaker 10: her outfit to a hooker and a cabaret dancer. 627 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:20,200 Speaker 2: What's that? 628 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 6: That's kind of the representation, right, I mean that's what's 629 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:27,800 Speaker 6: in can't get the sad when you want to be upset, 630 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:31,320 Speaker 6: you chose her, she got chose. 631 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 5: I mean, is this the worst thing someone's worn? 632 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:39,480 Speaker 4: I understand, but you're also in a different country, like 633 00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:42,720 Speaker 4: why are we taking a game to another country and 634 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:46,920 Speaker 4: then gonna question that performs a problem with our patriot, 635 00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:48,720 Speaker 4: Like now you have a problem, then we maybe shouldn't 636 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:50,480 Speaker 4: have a game in Madrid. 637 00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:56,720 Speaker 5: Right now? 638 00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:00,880 Speaker 7: They sing for that. 639 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,200 Speaker 5: I tell you that if you if you. 640 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:06,480 Speaker 4: Have on an Amsterdam why's the singer comes from the 641 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:08,280 Speaker 4: red light district? You know, like, well you kind of 642 00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:09,840 Speaker 4: invited that possibility. 643 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:13,479 Speaker 10: She is a US performer, so born and raised here 644 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:14,360 Speaker 10: in the United States. 645 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,680 Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, but she's trying to like integrate with the culture. 646 00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:19,600 Speaker 10: And honestly, okay, yeah, So when I went to Guatemala 647 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:22,400 Speaker 10: and I was watching their morning news, those girls are 648 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:25,920 Speaker 10: a little scandalous. Yeah, they have like short crop tops 649 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:28,280 Speaker 10: and mini skirts and he's I'm like, let me get 650 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:29,840 Speaker 10: into that news segment. 651 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:32,200 Speaker 7: National anthem. 652 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:36,680 Speaker 6: You're not singing one of your your singles. I mean 653 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:39,640 Speaker 6: you have a little respect for yourself and our country 654 00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:41,920 Speaker 6: and your representation of our country. 655 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:42,880 Speaker 7: Got darn it? 656 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:48,520 Speaker 6: Who dressed you to sing the national anthem? 657 00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:48,640 Speaker 7: Like? 658 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:50,960 Speaker 6: Whos like you put this on? You're like, I'm going 659 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 6: to crutch this today? 660 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:53,560 Speaker 5: What else we we got? 661 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:59,080 Speaker 10: Well, you know, the holidays are approaching. Thanksgiving is just 662 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,880 Speaker 10: next week, and La rams I saw this special story 663 00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:05,680 Speaker 10: they're kicking off their holiday giving campaign. It involves players 664 00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 10: and staffs doing toy drives and collecting food donations youth 665 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:12,360 Speaker 10: football clinics, and this is a great time. 666 00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 5: I don't care. 667 00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:19,280 Speaker 10: Wait, but these finds mean that I'm officially invited to 668 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:21,239 Speaker 10: San Francisco, right, because that means I get to go 669 00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:24,120 Speaker 10: to the dinner. Oh, I'm so excited. Okay, let's do it. 670 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:29,000 Speaker 10: I'll start packing my bags now, I'm already ready. 671 00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 2: I think it sounds like a guy thing. 672 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:32,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, thank you. 673 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:37,880 Speaker 2: I'm one of the guys. But no, I'm close. 674 00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:39,440 Speaker 5: Enough, not even close. 675 00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 2: Painted beard on. You won't even know. 676 00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:45,000 Speaker 7: They did a movie like that. One of the guys