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Speaker 1: Here we go, it's our two. How lucky are we

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Speaker 1: probably just happen to have another World Series games tonight

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Speaker 1: at the home of the greatest baseball team that's ever played.

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Speaker 1: You think our nuts on that just watching the Dodgers

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Speaker 1: will climb four scoreless innings. Who's wilf Klin. I don't we

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Speaker 1: know who he is?

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Speaker 2: Now?

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Speaker 1: It's just remarkable. Everybody's a little bleary eyed on our staff.

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Speaker 1: You think that game was hard to stay up for

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Speaker 1: in Los Angeles, Try the Midwest.

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Speaker 3: Hey, Colin Rowe, I'm just curious, where are you on

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Speaker 3: the whole intentional walk stuff.

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Speaker 4: I get it, it's strategy.

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Speaker 3: Blah blah blah, But I'm not gonna lie. You know,

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Speaker 3: we watched her. We kept the kids up for the

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Speaker 3: whole game last night. They were into it. Oh Tani's

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Speaker 3: going off having a historical game and then you walk

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Speaker 3: him every single time. That was just annoying.

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Speaker 4: You know, I want to see the best player bat.

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Speaker 3: I know, I get it, Baseball purists understand, but I'm

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Speaker 3: curious where you chime in on the intentional walks.

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Speaker 1: I Barry Bonds had a stretch when he was on

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Speaker 1: you know, cream or whatever, like you couldn't get him out,

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Speaker 1: and I think I don't love it either. I don't

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Speaker 1: think it's a dynamic. But you know what, the Dodgers

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Speaker 1: have so many bats around him. I would be more

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Speaker 1: annoyed with it if he was with the Angels and

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Speaker 1: you were doing it and nobody could drive him in.

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Speaker 1: But I don't think it affects the outcome.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: After last night, do you think Otani's gonna get any

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Speaker 3: balls to hit today.

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Speaker 1: Or they just gonna walk.

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Speaker 4: Him every time? That's not great for the product.

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Speaker 1: I don't yeah. I mean, like if you extrapolated out

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Speaker 1: to an entire season and nobody would pitch to O Tawny,

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Speaker 1: that would not be great. So you know, baseball has

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Speaker 1: done a good job of tweaking things. I mean, maybe

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Speaker 1: there's a new rule you can't intentionally walk anybody more

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Speaker 4: More than once.

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Speaker 3: I think that's a great idea. Can you propose that

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Speaker 3: next time we have Manfred and company on No.

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Speaker 1: I think it's I think, listen, baseball, more than any

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Speaker 1: sport in the last two years, has tweaked and all

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Speaker 1: of it's worked, and I don't think. I mean, listen,

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Speaker 1: you have exceptional players and you have to. I mean

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Speaker 1: there was a time in basketball that they were thinking

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Speaker 1: of outlawing the dunk because it was too easy for Wilt.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you you talk, you think, are there too

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Speaker 1: many three pointers in the NBA? You talk about these things,

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Speaker 1: you table it, you see if people like it. The

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Speaker 1: tush push. We're going back and forth on the tush push.

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Speaker 1: So I do think Otawni may be the player that

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Speaker 1: creates the you can't you could. And by the way,

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Speaker 1: there is strategy involved because you want the four, so

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Speaker 1: sometimes you don't want an open base. You want to

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Speaker 1: load it up. Ground Ball gets two. So yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: worth discussing at the winter meetings.

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Speaker 1: Right, Here we go the hierarchy on a Tuesday.

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Speaker 2: Heard hierarchy time. Now go the top ten NFL teams

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Speaker 2: according to College Number ten.

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Speaker 1: Well, the Buffalo Bills are five to zero. When James

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Speaker 1: Cook rushes for one hundred yards a rush for one

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Speaker 1: nineteen times. I don't think they're very good against the run.

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Speaker 1: Their pass defense is fine, but they're a very good team.

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Speaker 1: It's a long season. I like their on line, their

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Speaker 2: Number nine.

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Speaker 1: New England beat them all. Put in New England nine.

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Speaker 1: You know, New England is the only team since the

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Speaker 1: fifties first eight games they haven't allowed a running back

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Speaker 1: And let's just be totally frank here. Drake may looks

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Speaker 1: He may not be, but he's completing seventy five percent

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Speaker 1: they're a super Bowl team, but I have him at nine.

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Speaker 1: Broncos are a little inconsistent for me. I do think

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Speaker 1: Sean Payton is coaching bone Knicks. He wants him to

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Speaker 1: throw the ball down the field more and sometimes it

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Speaker 1: gets ugly. But here's the numbers you have to think of.

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Speaker 1: This team is allowed the fewest sacks in the NFL

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Speaker 1: the NFL that travels. Denver's not going anywhere. It's why

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Speaker 1: I think they're one of the few teams that matches

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Speaker 1: Bucks are all beat up. I put them at seven

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Speaker 1: mostly because they have a veteran quarterback in bo Nicks

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Speaker 1: as a kid. They're all beat up offensively, but they

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Speaker 1: are still one t plus yards down the field. Baker's

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Speaker 1: gained in four straight games, so there's a little fools

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Speaker 1: gold when they get into these winning streaks. They're not pretty.

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Speaker 1: They're all banged up, but I think we all acknowledge

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Speaker 1: at number seven fields about right. Number six the Rams.

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Speaker 1: They went and got a corner from Tennessee. I may

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Speaker 1: have them a little low, highest overall great and highest

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Speaker 1: graded offense in the NFL according to PFF. Now. They

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Speaker 1: have one of the last pocket quarterbacks, so if you

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Speaker 1: can get to Matt Stafford, that's the key. And their

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Speaker 1: O line is good. I don't think it's great. They

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Speaker 1: lead the NFL in big pass plays. Even when Puca

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Speaker 1: sometimes Stafford, if protection pro pass protection regresses that he

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Speaker 1: they're allowing an NFL low ten touchdowns through the season,

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Speaker 1: so it's just hard to get into the end zone

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Speaker 1: the Lions. Again, a pocket quarterback goff can be a

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Speaker 1: Lions have very very good rosters. I think the Lions

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Speaker 1: have better offensive personnel. The Rams have better defensive personnel.

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Speaker 1: For their five wins have come by double digits. They

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Speaker 1: and by the way, their schedule is pretty weak going

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Speaker 1: forward for the next month, so they'll keep.

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Speaker 2: Posting W's number four.

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Speaker 1: Green Bay Jordan Love, folks, I don't want to hear

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Speaker 1: that he's ascending. He's a star arm mobility talent, and

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Speaker 1: their defense allowed the fewest big plays this season. They're

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Speaker 1: just really well coached and really well run everywhere. They're

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Speaker 1: still have really clunky halves of offensive football. But we

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Speaker 1: got to get over the Jordan Love is rising and

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Speaker 1: Jordan Love is ascending. No not, he's top five to six, dude,

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Speaker 1: Jordan Love's great period and the.

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Speaker 2: Sentence number three.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what the heck to do with The

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Speaker 1: Colts only lost to the Rams and they outplayed them

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Speaker 1: at so far, and they've gotten better since then, maybe

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Speaker 1: by a touchdown. I mean, I think teams now are

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Speaker 1: quitting against them. They are so physically dominant. It's the

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Speaker 1: best offensive line along with Detroit I've seen. They're mashing people.

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Speaker 1: They're just dominating people. Pittman and Pears and Warren and

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Speaker 1: extension I don't know if they're the third best team,

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Speaker 1: but all the numbers tell you they're squashing people. It's

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Speaker 1: like physically they're just stepping on people. I'll put them

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Speaker 2: Number two.

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Speaker 1: Philadelphia has got more big game experience. AJ Brown didn't

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Speaker 1: play shocker, best performance of the year. I think Philadelphia

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Speaker 1: gets to not over Indy because they've got more guys

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Speaker 1: that have played in big games, and as we get

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Speaker 1: closer to Thanksgiving, that stuff matters. So they're six and zero.

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Speaker 1: When Saquon Barkley gets fifteen plus touches, I have a recommendation.

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Speaker 1: Give Saquon Barkley fifteen plus touches. Phillia two.

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Speaker 2: Number one.

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Speaker 1: I don't even think Kansas City played that great last night.

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Speaker 1: I thought it was a B minus C plus performance

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Speaker 1: and they still won by three touchdowns. I said this

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Speaker 1: a few weeks ago. They haven't had this kind of

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Speaker 1: offensive talent. Rashi Rice Clear number one, Worthy, clever, number two,

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Speaker 1: Juju perfect three, Travis Kelcey Gray excellent, tight end production,

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Speaker 1: O line still missing people, but again one of the

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Speaker 1: That stuff matters. On fourth down that stuff matters in

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Speaker 1: the red zone. I have Seattle at eleven, the Chargers

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Speaker 1: to do with the Colt. I don't see him in

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. Let's bringing Nick right, what does he makeup?

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Speaker 1: Then that's our hurt hierarchy. You know. It's like, the

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Speaker 1: data tells me they're as good as Kansas City. I know,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's why we're not run by AI robots. Column

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Speaker 5: That's why while maybe artificial intelligence is going to take

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Speaker 5: over every field, but not this one, because the data

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Speaker 5: can tell you whatever it wants to tell you. But

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Speaker 5: your eyes of watching the NFL for forty years is

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Speaker 5: just going to be like, am I really going to

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Speaker 5: say that Daniel Jones is gonna stare down Josh Allen

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Speaker 5: or Patrick Mahomes in an AFC for IT title game,

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Speaker 5: Divisional round game and win.

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Speaker 6: And the answer to.

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Speaker 5: That question is no, I'm not and I'm not doing this.

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Speaker 5: I'm not picking at you here at all. It feels

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Speaker 5: a lot like a lot like to me, the Vikings

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Speaker 5: last year prolific offense a better defense than this Colt seam.

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Speaker 5: They won fourteen games. But when Bush came to shove,

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Speaker 5: you asked yourself, or I asked myself, am I gonna

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Speaker 5: trust Sam Darnald through three rounds of the playoffs?

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Speaker 6: And that's in the NFC.

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Speaker 5: Where there aren't superhero quarterbacks waiting for you at every turn,

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Speaker 5: and I didn't trust them. And I think Donald is

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Speaker 5: better than Daniel Jones. Listen, Jonathan Taylor. If any running

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Speaker 5: actually think right now his MVP case is potentially stronger

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Speaker 5: than Saquan's. Last season, He's been excellent. Shane Steichen has

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Speaker 5: shown an ability. Hell, he has a winning record in games.

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Speaker 5: Anthony Richardson star he's an excellent coach. They have underrated weapons.

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Speaker 5: All that is true. They deserve to be respected.

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Speaker 6: But I right.

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Speaker 5: Now in the AFC, I think the Chiefs are better

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Speaker 5: and I think in a playoff game, I would pick

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Speaker 5: the Patriots before I picked them, because I believe superstar

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Speaker 5: It does help that you were able to give Otani

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Speaker 6: A career changing injury.

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Speaker 5: Is it so concerning that I would abandon the Caleb

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Speaker 5: College quarterback handicapping business because I have never seen two

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Speaker 6: I think you mentioned poker.

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Speaker 5: I think playing games of chance, playing cards is a

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Speaker 1: Yes to you.

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Speaker 5: You just flippantly giving your guy Herbert a pass for

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Speaker 1: First of all, shame on me for being a true romantic.

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Speaker 6: Good luck with that con.

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Speaker 1: I corrected it.

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Speaker 6: You got it wrong. That's a Colin Coward problem.

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Speaker 1: has the ball when Lebron and Lugarn playing, he's tremendous.

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Speaker 1: He is a prime prime player to move go get

437
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Speaker 1: like a nazarid Ish wing tough, physical defender because the

438
00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:40,680
Speaker 1: Lakers now are bad defensively and have too many guys

439
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Speaker 1: that need the ball? Am I nuts?

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Speaker 5: No, You're not nuts? And this is the real question

441
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Speaker 5: is are the Lakers trying to win this season or not?

442
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Speaker 5: If they are trying to win this and I'm not,

443
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Speaker 5: there's a no judgment zone on my end because till

444
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Speaker 5: we see how long Lebron actually is out for and

445
00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:08,439
Speaker 5: what Lebron looks like in year twenty three, soon to

446
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:11,359
Speaker 5: be age forty one, I think it'd be totally fair

447
00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:14,400
Speaker 5: for the Lakers to be conservative about.

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Speaker 6: Their chances this season.

449
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Speaker 5: But if you want to win this season, Austin Reeves

450
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Speaker 5: is duplicative because of Luca and Lebron and is your

451
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Speaker 5: number one asset to be able to go get a defender,

452
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Speaker 5: which the moment Lebron comes back, the Lakers are gonna

453
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Speaker 5: need the oldest player in the league to be one

454
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Speaker 5: of their two best wing defenders because other than Vanderbilt,

455
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Speaker 5: they got none on the roster. God love Marcus Smart,

456
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Speaker 5: but he's a twelve minute a guy at this point

457
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Speaker 5: in his career. However, if your feeling is and I

458
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Speaker 5: think this was Lebron's concern over the summer. If your

459
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Speaker 5: feeling is, ah, we got Luca resigned, this is a

460
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Speaker 5: transition year, well then you probably keep Austin because you

461
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Speaker 5: don't want Luca to be in a position a year

462
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Speaker 5: from now where he's your only initiator, your only ball handler.

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Speaker 6: So that's the question.

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Speaker 5: The question is how much do you value this season

465
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Speaker 5: versus flexibility moving forward?

466
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Speaker 6: I don't know the answer that.

467
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Speaker 5: I would think as long as I have Luka Doncic

468
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Speaker 5: and a guy who finished sixth in MVP voting last

469
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Speaker 5: year and Lebron, I'd try to go for it. And

470
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Speaker 5: in that context, Austin and credit to Austin for becoming

471
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Speaker 5: this level of player is redundant for a team that

472
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Speaker 5: needs a bunch of other things.

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Speaker 1: Yes, a rim protector, athleticism, off ball diameter defender.

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Speaker 5: I mean where the Lakers are built weird for twenty

475
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Speaker 5: twenty five. They're a team that can't really defend and

476
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Speaker 5: doesn't have great shooting. As great as Luca is, as

477
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Speaker 5: good as Lebron could be, that's not a recipe for

478
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Speaker 5: a deep playoff run.

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Speaker 1: All right, Nick Wright, excellent work. First things first, it's great.

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Speaker 1: See anybody say your hell yeah, listen sometimes. You know,

481
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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna apologize for being a romantic. I see

482
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Speaker 1: Justin Herbert with his friend and it touched me, and

483
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Speaker 1: so you know whatever.

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Speaker 3: Can you watch your language when you say it touched me?

485
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Speaker 3: By the way, have you looked her up on Instagrams?

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Speaker 4: Madison Beer.

487
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Speaker 1: She's a beautiful person.

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Speaker 3: She doesn't follow me, but she has forty million followers.

489
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Speaker 3: She has a huge deal. I'd never heard of her before,

490
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Speaker 3: like six months ago.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know a lot of these influencers are you know,

492
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Speaker 1: it's not back channels. It's just channels that we don't

493
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Speaker 1: we're not on right.

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Speaker 3: Justin Fields used to hang out with Cameron Dicker in

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Speaker 3: the South Bay. Now he's leveled up to a celebrity

496
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Speaker 3: and a front row of Dodgers and Lakers.

497
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Speaker 4: Hope it doesn't go to his head. That's your boy.

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Speaker 1: Herbert certainly is. And now I'm a big fan of

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Speaker 1: hers as well.

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Speaker 1: Sorry, I just took a little cs to after that

517
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:55,919
Speaker 1: Dodger game last night. We're all we're all a little sleepy.

518
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:58,359
Speaker 1: I got one producer got two and a half hours sleep,

519
00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:02,199
Speaker 1: one got four, and fields great about it. It was

520
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:05,960
Speaker 1: just wild. It's just crazy. I say this all the time.

521
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 1: We are so lucky. Obviously, I'm lucky to do what

522
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:12,000
Speaker 1: I do and very very grateful, very very humbled. But

523
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:14,200
Speaker 1: we're so lucky right now. You look at all these

524
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:18,200
Speaker 1: Dodger players, they're all like Otani and Betts and Freeman

525
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 1: and Yoshi and just the quality of the human being

526
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:25,880
Speaker 1: you get in American sports. And I've said this about

527
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:32,560
Speaker 1: the NFL, Josh Allen, Patrick Mahomes, justin Herbert Jordan love.

528
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 1: They're such nice kids. And I know I'm saying kids,

529
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:37,760
Speaker 1: but I have gray hair. But I'm watching that thing

530
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 1: last night, and I mean, the pressure on these athletes

531
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Speaker 1: that is just crazy. I mean, we all grow grew

532
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 1: up wanting to be like rock stars or athletes, at

533
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 1: least I did. Some guys wanted to be Fireman. I

534
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:55,640
Speaker 1: get that too, but it was like, you know, it

535
00:28:55,720 --> 00:29:00,600
Speaker 1: was superheroes, rock stars or athletes, and you're you're watching

536
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 1: what o'tani is doing and Freeman, and I am just

537
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:08,960
Speaker 1: amazed at how good sports is in twenty twenty five.

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00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 1: I'm amazed with it. I can't even wrap my brain

539
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:15,320
Speaker 1: around how good O'tawni is. I mean, Michael Jordan is

540
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 1: six for six. Otawni got on base nine times. That

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Speaker 1: would be a good series for an all star in

542
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Speaker 1: a six game series, an all star level player, said

543
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:31,600
Speaker 1: Vlad Guerrero. He got on base like nine times in

544
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 1: a five six game series. You'd be like, what was

545
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 1: the MVP of the series. Yeah, that's unbelievable. I mean, yeah,

546
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Speaker 1: Summer Walks I said seven years ago, he's Babe Ruth plus.

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Speaker 1: My bad, He's Babe Ruth plus plus plus. J McK

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Speaker 1: with the news.

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Speaker 2: No, no, hear on the news. This is the headline news.

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00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 3: All right, kind of, Let's start with the Chiefs win

551
00:29:57,960 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 3: on Monday night football.

552
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:00,240
Speaker 4: It was a snoozer.

553
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Speaker 3: They beat a Washington team playing their backup quarterback, Kansas

554
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:07,719
Speaker 3: City feasting on another bottom feeder. Congratulations, guys. Travis Kelsey

555
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 3: did have a good game, six catches for ninety nine yards,

556
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Speaker 3: did have a drop early that led to an interception

557
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:15,480
Speaker 3: right off his hands. Mahomes kind of muttered an F

558
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 3: bomb under his breath, you could see through the face mask.

559
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 3: Kelsey tied Priest Homes with his eighty third regular season touchdown,

560
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 3: good for most Enfranchise history. Here's Patrick Mahomes on Taylor

561
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Speaker 3: Swiss fiance.

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Speaker 2: He's just like the true Chief's chief.

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Speaker 9: I mean, he is the guy who's been here through

564
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:36,400
Speaker 9: the whole thing, been here with Coach Read the entire time,

565
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:39,560
Speaker 9: and he helped set the culture, you know, he helps

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Speaker 9: set the culture of what it means and to play

567
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 9: for Coach Reading, to play in Kansas City. And I

568
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:45,560
Speaker 9: was able to come in and have that guy to

569
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Speaker 9: rely on. And so he's bringing all the records now,

570
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:50,720
Speaker 9: and I mean he's all about the team. So I

571
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:52,360
Speaker 9: want to make sure he gets that. Hopefully we can

572
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Speaker 9: get another football for him later in the season when

573
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Speaker 9: he actually breaks the record.

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Speaker 1: Say what you want, but Rashi, Rice Worthy, Kelsey, Juju,

575
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 1: Hollywood Brown, that is a stable of guys that can

576
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Speaker 1: make plays.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, just do it against a good team and then

578
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Speaker 3: I'll be impressed. I mean, we didn't get excited when

579
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Speaker 3: the Bills smashed the Panthers and Andy Dalton, did we

580
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 3: We didn't go all apoplectic when Daniel Jones carved up

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Speaker 3: the Titans, Like, we don't do that. So I don't

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Speaker 3: know how well we should get all excited for the

583
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Speaker 3: Chiefs curb stomping a terrible Washington team with a backup quarterback,

584
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 3: Like Washington's not a playoff team.

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00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 1: No, they're not, They're not.

586
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Speaker 3: Yeah, so this Bills game is everything. Hey, beat the Bills.

587
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 3: I'll give you your props. Do you have an early

588
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 3: read on Chiefs Bills?

589
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Speaker 2: By the way?

590
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 1: Kansas City by ten?

591
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Speaker 3: Ooh, that's a hot take, wow, ten.

592
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 1: On the Yeah, this game is in Buffalo, and yeah

593
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 1: I saw New England go in and win at Buffalo.

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00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 1: Kansas City can't What.

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Speaker 3: Is this the transit of property? Because a plus B,

596
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 3: what's going on here? Cowherd sim it down. Now we

597
00:31:57,920 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 3: may have to go opposite on that one this week. No,

598
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Speaker 3: I don't have a pick for that game yet. Next up,

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00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,480
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it's the Cowboys. And this is kind of

600
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 3: an ugly story developing with Trayvon Diggs. Remember last year

601
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 3: he had that knee injury. Well, now he weirdly suffered

602
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 3: some kind of concussion at home. It's unclear what went down,

603
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Speaker 3: but now he's being placed on the ir Remember Trayvon

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Speaker 3: Digs a few years ago was like an awesome I

605
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Speaker 3: was like, Oh, this guy's a stud. It hasn't gone great,

606
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 3: but Michaeh. Parsons has now chimed in. Of course, Michael

607
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 3: Parson's a bit of a vendetta against Dallas for how

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Speaker 3: it ended. Michael Parson's saying Diggs is coming off a

609
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Speaker 3: catastrophic knee injury and they just didn't do him right,

610
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Speaker 3: the type of injury he had. They forced him out there,

611
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 3: he had no rep the organization let him down.

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Speaker 1: Well, I don't know the specifics in terms of, you know,

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Speaker 1: forcing him to practice and play, but I think there's

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Speaker 1: a possibility he won't be around with those two first

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Speaker 1: round picks. I think they're going to get an in

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Speaker 1: a corner.

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Speaker 3: So well, that's assuming your boy Jerry doesn't trade those

618
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Speaker 3: picks to try to get a player and make a move.

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Speaker 3: I know you scoffed at that earlier, but would you

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Speaker 3: put anything past this guy. I mean, he made a

621
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Speaker 3: terrible deal for Trey Lance.

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Speaker 1: He made a great deal for George Pickens. That was

623
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Speaker 1: a steal. That's one of the steals of the off seats,

624
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Speaker 1: and that.

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Speaker 4: Was a great move getting Pickings.

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Speaker 3: By the way, the Steelers should be ripped for giving

627
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Speaker 3: him up for nothing.

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Speaker 1: Well, he man. I think he's a better fit with

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Speaker 1: Dak than kind of a the quarterback situation they had.

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Speaker 1: I think Dak has a way of making players who

631
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Speaker 1: can be a bit temperamental more mature. Give Dak credit,

632
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Speaker 1: Like when you play with Dak, everybody kind of gets

633
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 1: in line with Dak. Number Zeke was a little wild

634
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 1: and then over the course of his career he's settled down.

635
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:50,120
Speaker 1: Dak has a way of you know, he's like Dak's

636
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Speaker 1: like the dad you don't want to disappoint. He's like

637
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Speaker 1: mature and his speeches and his ability to kind of

638
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Speaker 1: lower the temperature in the room. Dallas has a lot

639
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 1: to deal with, ownership down a lot of noise. Dak

640
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 1: has got that unique ability where he just brings the

641
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 1: temperature down. Jalen Hurts has this too. There's just a

642
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 1: maturity and ability. Take a deep breath, everybody, Let's bring

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Speaker 1: the noise down. And I think that's a credit to

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Speaker 1: Dak and Jalen Hurst.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I can't wait for Michaeh Parsons to do a victory

647
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:21,319
Speaker 3: lap after the Super Bowl and just shove it in

648
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:22,000
Speaker 3: Jerry's face.

649
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 4: Hey, you made a terrible deal. I know you just agree.

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Speaker 3: Anyways, final story, Colin, let's go to the Rams.

651
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 4: Touched on earlier.

652
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:29,920
Speaker 3: Tyler Shuck will be starting for the Saints. That's not

653
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:33,720
Speaker 3: great news. The Rams have big news. Puka Nakua is back,

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Speaker 3: Colin mcveig announced yesterday. Pookah is expected to return to

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Speaker 3: practice and they expect him to play on Sunday against

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Speaker 3: the Saints. Remember Puka missed that game he suffered the

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Speaker 3: ankle injury I'm pretty sure was the ankle in London,

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Speaker 3: and so the Rams should be fully formed.

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Speaker 4: Rested off a bye.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure you guys can't wait for the McVeigh numbers

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Speaker 3: off a bye.

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Speaker 1: McVeigh off a bye at home against the New Orleans team.

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Speaker 1: Tyler shuck to me, is not an NFL quarterback?

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Speaker 3: Oh really, Saints disagree they.

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Speaker 1: Drafted early. I mean if this game ended thirty three

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Speaker 1: to three, would you be shocked? No, no, my bank

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Speaker 1: account would be thrilled. If you have survivor, you got

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Speaker 1: to hammer the rams here right, this is a lot.

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Speaker 1: I mean, nothing's a lock. I mean, well, who do

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Speaker 1: they play? I mean off a lot of So that's

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Speaker 1: the only thing I don't love is that you could

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Speaker 1: see them taking a twenty four nothing lead at half

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Speaker 1: and shutting it, shutting the playbook down and just running

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Speaker 1: it out, winning, you know, twenty seven to seventeen. Running it.

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Speaker 1: That's what worries mean. It's fair, I mean because not

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Speaker 1: that the Niners don't know what they do, but I

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Speaker 1: could see McVay shutting it down at half and saying, listen,

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Speaker 1: you get one or two of easy year when you

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Speaker 1: don't have to play your defensive guy's sixty snaps and

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Speaker 1: you know, Jared Verse like twenty eight snaps, you're done.

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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 3: I don't know about twenty eight. But the final note is.

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Speaker 3: I watched that Buck Saints game closely. I told remember

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Speaker 3: last week I mentioned the Saints center McCoy, he's one of.

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Speaker 4: The best in the league.

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Speaker 3: He's out for the season, and I was like, oh,

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Speaker 3: vitaven Company. They're gonna wreck New Orleans. Couldn't run the football,

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Speaker 3: they were inept. Spencer Rattler was so now shook with

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Speaker 3: the backup center. And we know the Rams defensive line

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Speaker 3: is fairly nasty. I just don't see a path to

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Speaker 3: success for the Saints here. I love the Rams in

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Speaker 3: the spot.

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Speaker 1: J Mack with the news, Well.

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Speaker 2: That's the news, and thanks for stopping by The Herd.

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Speaker 1: Line news Derek Jeter stops by The Herd last hour

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Speaker 1: after another iconic Dodger game at the Great Dodger Stadium. Plus,

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Speaker 1: is the NFC playoff picture already? Sat thoughts next the Herd.

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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays

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Speaker 3: Start Saturday strong with the undefeated, top ranked Ohio State

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Speaker 3: Buckeyes as they faced off against rivals Penn State at

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Speaker 3: the Shoe. Starts at ten am Eastern with Big.

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Speaker 4: Noon Kickoff live from Columbus.

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Speaker 3: Then it's Penn State, Ohio State Big Noon Saturday only

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Speaker 3: on fox.

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Speaker 1: Man. There's a lot of good jobs open Florida, LSU,

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Speaker 1: Penn State. Those are three top ten jobs. I'm not

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Speaker 1: sure there's three great candidates. Lane Kiffin potentially, but he

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Speaker 1: may want to stay. You know, everybody thinks Americans are

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Speaker 1: more mobile. I saw reading something about six months ago

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Speaker 1: that most Americans don't want to move. They find a job,

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Speaker 1: they find a community, they want to be social, their

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Speaker 1: kids get into school. So I'm not sure if I mean,

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Speaker 1: if you can make blankety blank million dollars a year

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Speaker 1: at Old Miss and you kind of created, you know,

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Speaker 1: a great program, what's the extra two and a half

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Speaker 1: million going to mean at LSU? I don't know. It's

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Speaker 1: still the SEC and I don't know, Like Kurt Signetti,

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Speaker 1: why go to Penn State right now? Indiana would hammer

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Speaker 1: Penn State. It'd be one thing if, like Indiana new

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Speaker 1: going forward, our biggest boosters are not going to give

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Speaker 1: money anymore, or it was a regressing business. But if

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Speaker 1: you're in a business and the business is a snding like

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Speaker 1: Indiana football, why leave Ole Miss football? Why leave now?

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Speaker 1: If it's lifestyle and nothing against Oxford, Mississippi, but you

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Speaker 1: know a school in LA called in your you know

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Speaker 1: you love La. That's different. Or if you're like Brian

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Speaker 1: Kelly went Midwest to the South. If Brian Kelly got

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Speaker 1: offered the Penn State job, that may be a good

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Speaker 1: fit for him socially and football wise. But I want

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Speaker 1: to say this that, and we've said this a lot,

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Speaker 1: it doesn't take long for great to surface or even

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Speaker 1: very good. If you look at the playoff picture today,

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Speaker 1: we'll start with the NFC. I think this is what

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Speaker 1: it's going to look like. I think we've already determined.

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Speaker 6: Now.

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying the seeding is perfect. Green Bay one seed,

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Speaker 1: Phillia two, Tampa Bay three, Seattle for Detroit to five,

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Speaker 1: LAS six, San Francisco is seven. I think these are

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Speaker 1: the playoff teams. I think those are the teams I

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Speaker 1: picked for the playoffs. I'm not sure if I had

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Speaker 1: San Francisco, and I think I had them close that

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Speaker 1: feels like. I mean, the team that's right below that

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Speaker 1: is four and three Chicago, and I think Chicago will

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Speaker 1: make it interesting. But I think as long as San

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Speaker 1: Francisco can get somewhat healthy over the next six weeks.

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Speaker 1: I think the NFC playoff picture, that's what it's going

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Speaker 1: to look like. In the AFC, I don't buy Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 1: I think they will lose narrowly to Baltimore. I think

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Speaker 1: Baltimore is going to go on a heater with Lamar

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Speaker 1: Jackson and win five out of the next six, six

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Speaker 1: to the next seven. But I Indies one, New England two,

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Speaker 1: Denver three, Pittsburgh for Buffalo five, Chargers six, Kansas City seven.

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Speaker 1: This is mostly the teams we picked. I think Baltimore

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Speaker 1: and Houston i'd keep my eyes on. I just don't

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Speaker 1: buy Pittsburgh. I'm not blaming Aaron. I think they I

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Speaker 1: think Sunday night, when Green Bay faced the Steelers, it

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Speaker 1: felt like one franchise gets the current league in the

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Speaker 1: future and the other is really outdated. And the reason

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Speaker 1: I buy the Colts is because if you have a

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Speaker 1: great offensive line that will endure in December and January,

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Speaker 1: if you have great wide receivers Miami a few years

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Speaker 1: ago doesn't mean anything as the weather gets colder. I

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Speaker 1: look at line play now. I do think the Colts

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Speaker 1: could use another pass rusher, but I think they're old lines,

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Speaker 1: first or second in the league, and I think that endures.

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Speaker 1: Nick Wright does not believe in the Colts.

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Speaker 5: Am I really going to say that Daniel Jones is

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Speaker 5: going to stare down Josh Allen or Patrick Mahomes in

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Speaker 5: an AFC for IT title game, Divisional round game and win.

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Speaker 5: And the answer to that question is no, I'm not.

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Speaker 5: They deserve to be respected, But I right now in

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Speaker 5: the AFC, I think the Chiefs are better than them.

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Speaker 5: I believe the Bills are better than them, and I

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Speaker 5: think in a playoff game, I would.

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Speaker 6: Pick the Patriots. Before I picked them.

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Speaker 1: I would not. I would pick the Chiefs to beat

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Speaker 1: the Colts and right now nobody else. I think Jonathan

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Speaker 1: Taylor would run for one hundred and fifty yards on

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Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills. I think Bo Nicks would sit on

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Speaker 1: the sidelines and watch Jonathan Taylor in that offense dominate

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Speaker 1: time of possession. So I think Kansas City has built

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Speaker 1: to beat them. If if you have a great old line, hard,

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Speaker 1: it's the way to keep great quarterbacks on the sidelines.

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Speaker 1: Colts can do that. Our three, Derek Jeter on the

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Speaker 1: corner