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Speaker 1: This is one Bill's Live presented by Calida Health.

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Speaker 2: All Right, how you be. We're out here live at

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Speaker 2: a scorcher of a day of training camp, day three

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Speaker 2: Chris Brown, Steve Tasser and joined right off the top

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Speaker 2: by Bill's reporter Mattila Studio audience. I have to say, Maddie,

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Speaker 2: it was a very toasty day today, and you brave

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Speaker 2: the elements in an all black ensemble.

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Speaker 3: I did you know that?

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Speaker 2: Is you're brave?

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Speaker 4: I do that so that people can't see how much

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Speaker 4: I sweat through my shirt. So that's why we're going

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Speaker 4: with black today. It's a safe bet, fair enough.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, so it was dangerous hot? A shirt change? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I changed, sir. Thanks for the camp good days and

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Speaker 1: special times people were here today. They they gave me

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Speaker 1: an extra shirt because my other one was like unbearable.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, ring it out turned into a dish rag.

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Speaker 1: Plus I like camp good days and special times.

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Speaker 2: Until there you go, there you go. Uh, we've got

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Speaker 2: to cover day three of camp and what happened out

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Speaker 2: on the field today. What uh what did you take

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Speaker 2: away Maddy from day three here? And then we'll kind

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Speaker 2: of get your synopsis on Yeah, the three days as

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Speaker 2: a whole.

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Speaker 4: Day three was a revolving door of who is playing

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Speaker 4: with what team? On defense, Oh my gosh, they were

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Speaker 4: rotating and rotating and rotating and rotating. It was hard

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Speaker 4: to even even think is first team, second team, third

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Speaker 4: team out there. There was a mix of first, second, third.

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Speaker 4: Sometimes when you looked on the field and it's the

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Speaker 4: perfect time to do something like this because you're trying

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Speaker 4: to find pairs, You're trying to find who goes with who.

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Speaker 4: There's position battles going on. You guys, you want guys

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Speaker 4: to play up a team to play against a first

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Speaker 4: team offense that Josh is obviously a part of, and

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Speaker 4: a wide receiver.

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Speaker 3: Like Stephan Diggs.

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Speaker 4: You want to see how twos and threes run with

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Speaker 4: some of the best or compete with some of the

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Speaker 4: best when you're talking about being on defense. So they

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Speaker 4: were rotating through everything on defense today. I think that

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Speaker 4: was the biggest thing that stood out to me. They

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Speaker 4: didn't run through too many team periods. We saw a

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Speaker 4: lot of that on the first two days. They wrapped

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Speaker 4: red zone a lot on that first day, did a

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Speaker 4: lot of team stuff yesterday, not as much today. So

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Speaker 4: there were some big plays for sure that we'll talk about.

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Speaker 4: But I think today what stood out to me was

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Speaker 4: just the defense trying to trying to start to figure

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Speaker 4: things out, you know, roster cuts. Yes, it's the end

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Speaker 4: of July, but that day is coming sooner and sooner

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Speaker 4: and sooner.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting too, and that may fall in one.

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Speaker 1: You paid more attention than I did because I didn't.

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Speaker 1: I was kind of looking at the up the first

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Speaker 1: couple of days of camp. And it's always true when

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Speaker 1: we talk about it, that the defense a little bit

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Speaker 1: ahead of the offense because all I have to do

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Speaker 1: is kind of react and everything has to be really

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Speaker 1: choreographed a little bit closer to perfection for the offense

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Speaker 1: to be noticeable. Today they were, and some of it

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Speaker 1: might have been that there were different combinations defensively that

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Speaker 1: allowed the offense to say, Okay, here we go, and

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Speaker 1: they made some plays out there that I thought in

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Speaker 1: a little bit more of a consistent way than they

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Speaker 1: had early in the first couple of days.

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Speaker 4: Other big takeaway Tyler bass money today. Yeah, Yeah, hit

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Speaker 4: a sixty.

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Speaker 2: Yarder and made it look easy because it probably would

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Speaker 2: have been good from sixty five or more. And you know,

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Speaker 2: I Steve who's seen a lot of special times in

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Speaker 2: his day, was like, well, his leg should be super

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Speaker 2: alive right now, stay three and come on, and it's

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Speaker 2: hot and it's humid, and the ball is expanded because

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Speaker 2: in the cold weather it's like kicking a rock.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, sixty yarder in a team thing is still pretty impressive.

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Speaker 2: Pretty good, pretty good. Yeah. I was sitting in the

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Speaker 1: That's why there's not another kicker in camp right there.

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Speaker 2: I was sitting in the stands at the time he

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Speaker 2: was kicking, just because I like sitting up there and

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Speaker 2: having that view. And I could hear the fans behind me.

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Speaker 2: They're like, Oh, he's gonna kick a fifty yarder. I

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Speaker 2: turn around and I look at him, and I go,

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Speaker 2: that's a sixty yarder. It's at midfield. You're not counting

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Speaker 2: the end zone. And you're like, they're like, oh, it's

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Speaker 2: a sixty yarder. And then he booted it and they're

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Speaker 2: like wow. They were like blown away. He's not a

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Speaker 2: big guy and he's just got so much juice in

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's got great leverage. His technique is awesome, and

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Speaker 1: I think, you know, Matt Smiley was the guy the

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Speaker 1: coordinator behind the mic today before practice early on, and

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Speaker 1: he was asked about why Tyler Bass is as good

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Speaker 1: as he is and he said it was because he

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Speaker 1: came in here with the right mind. He came into

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty, you know, so it was a weird year

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Speaker 1: and stuff. And I will say this, the good kickers

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Speaker 2: Those are the good kickers.

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Speaker 1: Everybody's got a leg and some physical ability, but the

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Speaker 1: guys who have from the neck up are the really

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Speaker 1: good kickers. And Tylers one of those guys.

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Speaker 5: He's had it.

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Speaker 1: He had it right away.

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Speaker 4: Matthew Smiley, their special teams coordinator, called him a veteran today.

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Speaker 4: And this is a guy who's entering his fourth season

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Speaker 4: in the NFL and he's kind of starting to be

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Speaker 4: looked at as a veteran. Kicker is an interesting position

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Speaker 4: because once you win the job, you're kind of on

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Speaker 4: your own. Yes, you have guys around you, you have

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Speaker 4: but you have to learn how to be mature right

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Speaker 4: away as a kicker, because it's you out there in

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Speaker 4: those big time moments. During games, and Tyler has proven

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Speaker 4: time and time again why he deserves to be in

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Speaker 4: that position on that stage, and he did it again

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Speaker 4: during practice today, going six for six.

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Speaker 2: When talking about consistency, Maddie through the first three days,

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Speaker 2: players who have delivered every single day thus far, the

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Speaker 2: two names that come to mind for me are probably

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Speaker 2: Stefon Diggs and Dalton Kincaid, at least in terms of

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Speaker 2: the passing game. Would you put anybody else in that

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Speaker 2: probably the top two.

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Speaker 4: I think those guys are definitely the top two. I

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Speaker 4: mean Stefan Diggs and Josh Allen. The throws and catches

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Speaker 4: that they have connected on already in three days of practice,

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Speaker 4: some of them have been very impressive. I mean Josh

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Speaker 4: threw Steph wide open today into a touchdown. There was

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Speaker 4: no chance for the defenders. He was in the perfect

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Speaker 4: he ran into the end zone. It's it's plays like

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Speaker 4: on the same page for quite some time. But Josh

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Speaker 4: had a throw yesterday to Dalton Kinkaid where he placed

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Speaker 4: it in a zone that defenders could not reach. He

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Speaker 4: threw it before Dalton Kincaid was there. Dalton ky Kaid

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Speaker 4: catch the pass and it was a connection. A throw

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Speaker 4: like that, I thought to myself, these two look like

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Speaker 4: they have played together before. And in an instance like

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Speaker 4: that where you're where you're placing a in a zone,

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Speaker 4: in a window where it's not easy to get to,

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Speaker 4: Dalton got right over there, made the grab and it

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Speaker 4: was like a fifty yard gain on that play.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I was watching one on ones today because

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Speaker 2: they had running backs against linebackers, tight ends and wide

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Speaker 2: old line D line over there doing pass rush stuff.

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Speaker 2: And when you really get a chance to watch the

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Speaker 2: terribly slanted in favor of the offense because they have

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Speaker 2: the whole field to work with against the defender, but

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Speaker 2: what you but what you can see with Kincaid is

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Speaker 2: how he can feel a defender in a man coverage situation.

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Speaker 2: He feels the guy even when he stems his route.

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Speaker 2: He can feel where the guy is, whether he's on

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Speaker 2: and he immediately has the counter move to that, and

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Speaker 2: that's what leads to his separation.

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Speaker 1: It makes it lookat eight instincts and that's not some guys.

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Speaker 1: You have to teach that stuff too. And some guys

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Speaker 1: just because of the way they were brought up in

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Speaker 1: the crossover sports that they played and where they play

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Speaker 1: hoops or hockey or soccer whatever, they have an idea

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Speaker 1: about spatial awareness and where guys are and they have

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Speaker 1: a knack for feeling it and reacting to it quicker

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Speaker 1: than guys who maybe even specialized in football their whole lives.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: It's just it makes a big difference for players coming

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Speaker 1: up and Kincaid, You're right, he seems experienced three days

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Speaker 4: Pro Dawson Knox is also connected on some nice balls

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Speaker 4: with Josh Allen. I mean today during eleven on eleven,

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Speaker 4: Josh fit it in a tight window through defenders and

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Speaker 4: Dawson was right there with the quick hands to make

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Speaker 4: the grabs. So he's had some plays that have stood

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Speaker 4: out too. It's been fun to watch him in the

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Speaker 4: red zone when they've repped red zones when they've repped

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Speaker 4: red zone on offense and things like that. But it's

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Speaker 4: been fun to watch Dawson and Dalton in there together

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Speaker 4: because you think about and you talk about the multiplicity

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Speaker 4: of this offense this year, and just watching them today

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Speaker 4: in some scenarios watching them on the field at the

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Speaker 4: same time, I was like, Oh my gosh, I cannot

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Speaker 4: wait to see this week one, week two, week three

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Speaker 4: because the things that they're gonna be doing and how

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Speaker 4: they're gonna be using these two guys is going to

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Speaker 4: be so fun.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think it'll give them a lot more

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Speaker 2: versatility for Ken Dorsey each and every week, and you know,

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Speaker 2: you they're gonna be on the field a lot together.

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Speaker 2: I think. I think that's what we're looking at here

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Speaker 2: going forward. Maybe not every week, but if the game

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Speaker 2: plans right.

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Speaker 1: The question is this, can they because you know they

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Speaker 1: can throw out of it, you know, out of two

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Speaker 1: tight ends with Diggs and Davis on the outside and

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Speaker 1: Cook in the backfield, are they gonna be you know,

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Speaker 1: loaded to be able to throw the football all over

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Speaker 1: the field and that means like spread it out or

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Speaker 1: pack it in. The question is are they going to

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Speaker 1: run into are they gonna run into defense? Is that

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Speaker 1: they cannot run the football against him out of that

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Speaker 1: They can throw it out of it, but can they

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Speaker 1: not run it out of it? So can a defense

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Speaker 1: feel like they match up in the passing game and

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Speaker 1: put guys like Taron Johnson like the Bills have Taron Johnson,

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Speaker 1: scrappy competitive guys who can defend the run out of

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Speaker 1: two tight end set. That's the question. You know, you

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Speaker 1: know they're going to be able to sling it out

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Speaker 1: of whatever personnel they have out there, but can they

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Speaker 1: you know, turn around hand it off and make hay

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Speaker 1: if a team starts to go light and match up

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Speaker 2: Game Mattie, See, Yeah, the rotation continues at middle linebacker.

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Speaker 2: We've seen two of the three candidates through the first

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Speaker 2: two days with the first team, and now we saw

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was Baile inspector today out there. And you

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Speaker 3: Here with the Bills.

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Speaker 4: So you're really looking at Tyrell Dodson, Torell Bernard, and

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Speaker 3: Didn't see too much out of him today.

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Speaker 4: It's it's also hard with linebackers because the pads.

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Speaker 1: Because you can't even get a tip off as to

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Speaker 4: And I like the way they're setting up this competition

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Speaker 4: I think Terrell Bernard was right there. If he was

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Speaker 2: Another under the radar position that is looking like it's

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Speaker 4: But I think we've seen some good and some bad.

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Speaker 2: Yes he does.

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Speaker 1: He's got a live arm. And when you're playing with

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Speaker 4: There's a learning curve for a player like Kyle Allen

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Speaker 4: one on one, but those are the plays that get

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Speaker 4: our fans excited during practice as well.

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Speaker 2: You covered the press conferences after practice today, Micah Hide,

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Speaker 2: Jordan Poyer. Correct, we'll hear from a little of them

442
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Speaker 2: when we have our next segment in the show here

443
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Speaker 2: and what they said to the media. But it sounds

444
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Speaker 2: as though, and you let us know since you were there,

445
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Speaker 2: that these guys are pretty pumped that their secondary is

446
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Speaker 2: back together like all the pieces. Because last year they

447
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Speaker 2: come to camp here with everybody healthy except Tredavius who

448
00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:37,400
Speaker 2: wasn't on the field yet coming back from the ACL

449
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Speaker 2: and then two or three days into camp, Jordan Poyer

450
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Speaker 2: messes up his elbow and that starts a domino effect

451
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Speaker 2: the rest of the season and Mike is out by

452
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Speaker 2: week two for the rest of the year. How excited

453
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Speaker 2: are they to have the band back together.

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Speaker 4: I think there's excitement from also Jordan Poyer being back.

455
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Speaker 4: I mean that was a big question mark and talking

456
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Speaker 4: to a guy like Micah Hyde last season out the

457
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Speaker 4: fact that, hey, we don't know what the future of

458
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Speaker 4: Jordan Poyer being a Buffalo Bill is. We're not sure

459
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Speaker 4: what's going to happen during free agency. There's a scenario

460
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Speaker 4: where he could no longer be a part of that team.

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Speaker 4: And having those conversations with Micah, you got the sense

462
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Speaker 4: that he was going to lose he could potentially lose

463
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Speaker 4: a brother. And knowing that that guy is back on

464
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Speaker 4: the team for this season, I think speaks volumes for

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Speaker 4: the two of them, the anchors of this defense, the

466
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Speaker 4: two safeties.

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Speaker 3: I think that sets a lot up for the entire defense.

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Speaker 4: Having a Tradevious White who's coming back with a bunch

469
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Speaker 4: of confidence now feeling like he's had a full offseason

470
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Speaker 4: to be healthy and wants to be the Trudevious White

471
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Speaker 4: of twenty nineteen where he had interception after interception. There's

472
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Speaker 4: something about that camaraderie. There's something about the chemistry. There's

473
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Speaker 4: something about being able to play alongside people who you

474
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Speaker 4: know and you understand. I think that brings the best

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Speaker 4: out of this defense. The best years that we've seen

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Speaker 4: out of this defense since I've been here over the

477
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Speaker 4: last four seasons. It's been because they really know and

478
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Speaker 4: understand each other. And because of that, they know how

479
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Speaker 4: somebody is going to react to a play without even

480
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Speaker 4: saying something. They know where Micah Hyde is going to

481
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Speaker 4: be in this scenario, this situation, Jordan Poyer doesn't even

482
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Speaker 4: have to say anything to Micah Hyde or vice versa.

483
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Speaker 4: So I think that's those things that this defense feels

484
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Speaker 4: like they're getting back and hopefully knock on wood here,

485
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Speaker 4: they can do that through the entire season because they

486
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Speaker 4: are going to be healthy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think you're right about the fact that

488
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Speaker 2: they understand the opportunity they were all given with Poyer

489
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Speaker 2: re signing here. The general consensus was Poyer's not coming back.

490
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Speaker 2: The only reason he is is because the market was

491
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Speaker 2: so flush. It was crazy starting free agent safeties. They

492
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Speaker 2: had eighteen starting safeties on the free agent market this offseason,

493
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Speaker 2: and that depressed Poyer's value where he didn't get the

494
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Speaker 2: money he thought he could get. And then because his

495
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Speaker 2: value came down, it put Buffalo in a position to

496
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Speaker 2: get him back and make a competitive offer, which wasn't anticipated.

497
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Speaker 2: So if you think about it, the initial core of

498
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Speaker 2: this secondary and this was a defense that was built

499
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Speaker 2: back to front when Sean McDermott got here in twenty seventeen.

500
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Speaker 2: The fact that they get one more season then they

501
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Speaker 2: probably all anticipated that they would have together to play

502
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Speaker 2: as a group. I don't think that's lost on them.

503
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Speaker 2: Number one and number two. I think they want to

504
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Speaker 2: make the most of it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, one more thing on that just they have one

506
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Speaker 4: more year that they know they will have together. I

507
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Speaker 4: feel like there is a sense of let's make the

508
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Speaker 4: most of it. There's some urgency behind them. And yes,

509
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Speaker 4: there's always been urgency, They've always been after the super Bowl,

510
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Speaker 4: but there's a consensus of we don't know how many

511
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Speaker 4: more years we're going to get together, so we need

512
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Speaker 4: to make the most of this year. We almost didn't

513
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Speaker 4: have a year with Jordan Poyer. We're getting him back.

514
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Speaker 4: The band is back together. Let's go do something because

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Speaker 4: we no we have this year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and there's no reason to think they can't. They

517
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Speaker 1: are really good and they've got great people up in

518
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Speaker 1: front of him.

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Speaker 2: If von Miller.

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Speaker 1: Comes back, as he will, and when he does, they've

521
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Speaker 1: got Leonard Floyd on the other side, Poonaford down inside

522
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Speaker 1: Daykon Jones, They've got Jordan Phillips on the rise, Ed

523
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Speaker 1: Oliver in the full. I mean, this is as good

524
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Speaker 1: a roster as the Bills could possibly have hoped to

525
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Speaker 1: have had at the end of last year. Coming back

526
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Speaker 1: and we'll see how it comes together. But you know, health,

527
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:39,800
Speaker 1: the bounce of the ball, the scheduling, snowstorms, all that

528
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Speaker 1: stuff have yet to be determined.

529
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Speaker 2: Maddie, thanks for checking in with us always. We'll keep

530
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Speaker 2: our eyes on Buffalo bills dot Com where they can

531
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Speaker 2: we can find some of your practice reports as you're

532
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Speaker 2: on the sidelines just about every day out here pads

533
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Speaker 2: on Sunday, first full padded practice over the weekend. Thanks

534
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Speaker 2: for I'm sure we'll catch up with you later on

535
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Speaker 2: in camp here on the show. But we take a

536
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Speaker 2: break now because when we come back, we'll be listening

537
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Speaker 2: to one Micah Hide who addressed the media with kids

538
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Speaker 2: in toe. Steve, we'll see what looks like a hallmark

539
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Speaker 2: card at a press conference when we come back here

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Speaker 2: on One Bill's Live, presented by co Lot of Health,

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Speaker 2: It's Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back to One Bill's Live.

542
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Speaker 2: Here at training Camp, day three in the books, the

543
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Speaker 2: hottest of the three by far.

544
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Speaker 5: It's toasty out.

545
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Speaker 2: Here at Saint John Fisher. But Steve and I press

546
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Speaker 2: forward and we do it with one Micah Hide addressing

547
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Speaker 2: the media after practice. That is two little ones with

548
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Speaker 2: him at the press conference. So anything is possible with

549
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Speaker 2: questions and answers. So here now is one Micah Hide.

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Speaker 6: Uh, I never felt better to be honest, just happy

551
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Speaker 6: you out here with the guys running around having fun.

552
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:03,119
Speaker 6: Eleven training camp and it's uh, it's a blessing man.

553
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Speaker 7: It's cool. It's cool to be.

554
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Speaker 2: Here obviously one of the biggest changes.

555
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Speaker 8: We talked about it a couple of weeks ago with Sean.

556
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Speaker 7: I mean, what's it been like?

557
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Speaker 9: Just do you see a different energy in him now?

558
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Speaker 9: Be so defensive?

559
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Speaker 6: I guess I've always been an energy in him. I

560
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 6: guess as the head coach put him popping in the

561
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Speaker 6: defensive meeting more.

562
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Speaker 7: Obviously, it's cool to see. You know, Sarn's always been aggressive.

563
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Speaker 7: You can see that. As a former wrestler.

564
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Speaker 6: Everybody knows that he has that wrestling mentality, and so

565
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Speaker 6: you know, when he's in the defense defensive meeting rooms

566
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Speaker 6: and he's talking to us, you could tell he wants

567
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Speaker 6: to be aggressive, and so it's it's cool to see.

568
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Speaker 6: Now we're trying to get an understanding of of how

569
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Speaker 6: he's calling stuff different.

570
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Speaker 10: Is that like as you go through on the field

571
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Speaker 10: actual execution, how many differences are there.

572
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Speaker 2: That you notice?

573
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Speaker 7: I don't.

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Speaker 6: I don't think there's many differences right now. Obviously, the

575
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Speaker 6: playbook is a playbook. We've we had this playbook for

576
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Speaker 6: for years since we've gotten here. But just what just

577
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Speaker 6: talk on it. Okay, but but uh, you know, just

578
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 6: the way Sean calls plays is just you know, you

579
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Speaker 6: gotta get you gotta get used to. So as of

580
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Speaker 6: right now, you know, not a huge difference, but you know,

581
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Speaker 6: sometimes situational football calls may be different from pass and

582
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Speaker 6: we're just trying to get a trying to get a

583
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Speaker 6: clue on on what we might be might be.

584
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Speaker 7: Doing you a sense of the aggressive distance approach. But

585
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Speaker 7: in terms of a learning curve, there.

586
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Speaker 2: Really is a bunch of one.

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Speaker 6: Now, you know, to be honest with you, guys, that

588
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:30,920
Speaker 6: we've been in this defense this whole time, and we've

589
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Speaker 6: made so many adjustments throughout the years within within each.

590
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Speaker 7: Call you want, you want to stand up that uh.

591
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Speaker 6: That you know, it's I've kind of gotten wrapped up

592
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Speaker 6: in all the all the other adjustments and so to me,

593
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Speaker 6: it's trying to get back to the basis of training

594
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Speaker 6: camp football and not you know, week eleven of less

595
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Speaker 6: game planning for a team you know, years ago. So, uh,

596
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Speaker 6: that's my biggest adjustment. But as far as the plays goes,

597
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Speaker 6: it's not much of a difference.

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Speaker 11: When you were going under the knife, couldn't and maybe

599
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Speaker 11: just thoughts about your career and where it might be.

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Speaker 11: Could you have envisioned this day right here with your

601
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Speaker 11: two kids here at your eleventh camp.

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Speaker 6: No, no, you know when it when it first happened,

603
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Speaker 6: and you know, my coach would be the first one

604
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Speaker 6: to tell you, my teammates the first one to tell you.

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Speaker 7: I didn't know what I didn't know what the outcome

606
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Speaker 7: was gonna be. I thought I was done. I think

607
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Speaker 7: I told you guys that before. So to be in

608
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Speaker 7: this situation.

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Speaker 6: Right now, and you know, having having my babies here,

610
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Speaker 6: having my wife here, you know, can't even put into

611
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Speaker 6: words how how amazing it is. I'm just I'm a

612
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 6: proud dad, I'm a proud husband, and I wouldn't change uh,

613
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Speaker 6: wouldn't change shoes to anybody in the worlds.

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Speaker 7: I love where I'm at in my life and couldn't

615
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Speaker 7: be better.

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Speaker 5: Pat's coming on in a couple of days. The content.

617
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Speaker 7: I can't wait. I can't wait.

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Speaker 6: I had a conversation with doctor Watkins a couple of

619
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Speaker 6: days ago, just the reassurance as to you know that

620
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Speaker 6: you're it's it's way better than what it was before.

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Speaker 7: And you guys gotta be honest. I got a big oldhead.

622
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Speaker 7: I gotta be honest.

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Speaker 6: In years past, it was a struggle man like like

624
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Speaker 6: getting it out of bed and just of just like

625
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Speaker 6: having you know, next soreness and all that type of stuff.

626
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Speaker 6: So I'm just happy that it's not gonna be as

627
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Speaker 6: as bad as what it was.

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Speaker 7: No trepidation or you're ready, I'm ready, Come on, come on,

629
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Speaker 7: how long you've been watching me play? I'm ready to go?

630
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Speaker 2: Man, Like you were ready?

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Speaker 10: Have you efenced the AFC chicks, you'd have been, so

632
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Speaker 10: I'm assuming you tested it at from a contact standpoint,

633
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Speaker 10: at a pretty high level, so there's no real threshold

634
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Speaker 10: for you to get over when the paths going on

635
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Speaker 10: exactly exactly.

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Speaker 6: I was ready, you know, months ago. It probably worked

637
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Speaker 6: out for the best. I had my full recovery and

638
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Speaker 6: was able to sit out a couple more months and

639
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Speaker 6: not have to be banging and wearing tear on my

640
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 6: body and all that. So it's fully healed, and I

641
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Speaker 6: have no doubt in my mind that when the pass

642
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Speaker 6: get on, I'll be ready to go and start hitting.

643
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Speaker 6: I'm not thinking about how's my next going to hold

644
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Speaker 6: up and all that type of stuff.

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Speaker 7: I'm cool can work together back into the RTN park.

646
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Speaker 7: So it's not like it's completely.

647
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Speaker 2: Blindsiding you or anything.

648
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Speaker 8: But is it a little bit surreal still to be

649
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Speaker 8: here with George again after not knowing that it was

650
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Speaker 8: ultimately going to out.

651
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Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, it's it's it's truly awesome to have

652
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Speaker 6: Poe come back. You know that throughout the whole his

653
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Speaker 6: whole contract situation, you know, he was lett me know

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Speaker 6: what was going on and you know, calling me up,

655
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Speaker 6: give me a whole details and stuff because we really

656
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Speaker 6: didn't know what was what was gonna be going on.

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Speaker 6: So you know, it's awesome to have po back. And

658
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 6: you know, we see the same things every single day

659
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 6: on the field off the field, so it's just it's

660
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 6: a blessing to have him back also because I know

661
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 6: I play my best game when he's healthy.

662
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 5: He said that he.

663
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 8: Understands he has more football behind him than in front

664
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 8: of him at this point in his career. You kind

665
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:47,480
Speaker 8: of saying too, where you are in your career, do

666
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:50,720
Speaker 8: you approach training him differently because of where you are?

667
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, young guys, the young guys probably think at times,

668
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 6: I'm like kind of psycho because.

669
00:31:56,760 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 7: It's just you just have you just have you just

670
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:00,960
Speaker 7: have more urgency.

671
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 6: You know, as you get older, you have more urgency

672
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:05,280
Speaker 6: because you understand that, you know, those those years have

673
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:08,240
Speaker 6: passed and you don't have times to just give away

674
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 6: games and give away playoff games and come up short.

675
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:12,959
Speaker 7: So it's just a lot more urgency.

676
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 6: Like I said, some of the young guys probably think like, Wow,

677
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 6: this dude's thirty two and he's still coming to work.

678
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 6: He's a little crazy in the head because he's just

679
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 6: you know, it's just go, go, go go. Because that's

680
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 6: just the mentality you got to have.

681
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 8: That you had something digs orployer, like knowing where you

682
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 8: guys are in your.

683
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 5: Conversation, like.

684
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 7: It's just known.

685
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 6: It's just non I think throughout the years listening to

686
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 6: guys like Kyle Williams speak, Lorenzo Alexander, which was here today,

687
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 6: some of the older guys that just kind of paved

688
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 6: the way for us and as this team and for

689
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,239
Speaker 6: this organization. You know, just listening to them talk, it's

690
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 6: kind of the same thing. It's just something you know,

691
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 6: and usually you know, throughout the throughout the season, towards

692
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 6: the end of the season, maybe one guy we'll we'll

693
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 6: say a few things. But I think the older guys

694
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 6: understand that it's got to get it got to get

695
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 6: it now, and there's not too many opportunity less.

696
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 7: Gosh discussed that type of person see him up.

697
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 11: He's aware of it, especially for this group of guys

698
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 11: who have been together for so long, knowing that time

699
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 11: is running short in some ways.

700
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 7: How much do you appreciate that from your quarterback? I

701
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 7: love Josh, I love I love him.

702
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 6: You know, everything that he brings to the table, brings

703
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 6: this organization. He's the perfect guy for this organization, for

704
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 6: this team. He's you know, he's a leader. He's a leader.

705
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 6: He uh just you know, wants to go out there

706
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 6: and compete every day.

707
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 2: All right. That's Micah Hyde addressing the media after practice today,

708
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 2: clearly ready to go, chomping at the bit to play

709
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:41,360
Speaker 2: real football again after missing almost the entire season last year.

710
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 2: Got that neck injury in Week two and did not

711
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 2: play the rest of the season, including playoffs, although as

712
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 2: you heard him remind everybody, he was medically cleared at

713
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 2: the Bills advanced to the AFC Title game, so they

714
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 2: beat the Bengals. He would have played next week. Yeah,

715
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 2: we knew that internally, but he revealed it after the

716
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 2: season was over to the rest of the media. So yeah,

717
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 2: it's I mean, we would have liked to have seen

718
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 2: that happen. What a lift that would have been for

719
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:08,879
Speaker 2: the defense the title game.

720
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:12,400
Speaker 1: You know that all less seasons would have been, should

721
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:14,840
Speaker 1: have been, could have been. Uh, And it's kind of

722
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:16,719
Speaker 1: a bummer to think back of it. And you know

723
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:18,759
Speaker 1: that's why you got got guys are still hurting from

724
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:22,880
Speaker 1: that season last year and one before that as well. Uh,

725
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:26,880
Speaker 1: they come back now and I think there is a

726
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 1: sense and you heard Mica talk about it of you know,

727
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 1: we we have a real shot at this thing, and

728
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 1: we got this. We got guys who have been there,

729
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:37,800
Speaker 1: who have and we've talked about this a lot with

730
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 1: Sean McDermott about who have learned hard lessons about, you know,

731
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:44,839
Speaker 1: game management, how to finish games, how to get guys

732
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,799
Speaker 1: ready for games, how to handle big games and big

733
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:50,399
Speaker 1: moments in the run up to them. It's a lot

734
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:53,400
Speaker 1: of lessons that this team has learned in the last

735
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 1: four or five years of going to the playoffs every

736
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:59,279
Speaker 1: year and you know, being disappointed at the end, and

737
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:00,759
Speaker 1: I've said it, you know on the show, we talk

738
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 1: about it. You know, you got to play well on

739
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 1: that day with your seasons on the line, you got

740
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 1: to play well in the playoffs in the NFL. If

741
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 1: you don't play well that day, it's over, no matter

742
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:10,759
Speaker 1: how good you are. So, you know, all of that

743
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 1: stuff is on the table for guys like Micah and

744
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 1: you know, Michaeh High, Jordan Poyer, you know, you know,

745
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 1: Matt Mulano, Tredavious White, all the guys, particularly on that

746
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 1: side of the ball, who've been through this. They're like, man,

747
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:28,360
Speaker 1: oh man, let's go, you know, let's let's make a difference.

748
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 1: Let's make it different this year. And they really feel

749
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 1: like you can feel it everywhere on how they handle

750
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 1: the press, how they handle anything. They know they're gonna

751
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:39,439
Speaker 1: have a shot at it again this year, and they're

752
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 1: working towards it.

753
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, And we had Josh you know, on the show

754
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:46,319
Speaker 2: yesterday telling us that, you know, the veteran message to

755
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 2: everybody on the roster is want it, work it, and

756
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 2: win it, you know, three w's. And I don't know,

757
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 2: there just seems to be I think they have a

758
00:35:54,160 --> 00:36:00,759
Speaker 2: healthy respect for Hey, these opportunities are not infinite. There's

759
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,880
Speaker 2: a finite number of opportunities. We're going to have to

760
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 2: win the whole kit and kaboodle and let's redouble our

761
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 2: efforts and maybe do a little bit extra or maybe

762
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:14,920
Speaker 2: tweak something just a little bit to make it better,

763
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 2: and that might be the difference that we need to

764
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 2: get over the hump by the time we get to

765
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 2: the postseason. So it's encouraging to hear that, for sure.

766
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:28,359
Speaker 2: But I think there's I think this secondary is excited

767
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,800
Speaker 2: for the first time in a long time just about

768
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 2: playing together again, because they really did not, at any

769
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:41,279
Speaker 2: point in time last season play together as a quartet.

770
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 2: And I guess I'm referring specifically to Jordavius tarn Johnson,

771
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:49,320
Speaker 2: Jordan Poyer, and Micah Hyde. Those four have been together

772
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:54,880
Speaker 2: pretty much since twenty eighteen. Granted, the other corner spot

773
00:36:54,920 --> 00:37:00,319
Speaker 2: has kind of rotated between four years, right and you know,

774
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:04,839
Speaker 2: before him, I'm not even gonna remember his name now.

775
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 2: We got him in a trade in the Sammy Watkins

776
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:12,279
Speaker 2: trade from the Rams. E J Gaines. J Gaines was

777
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:14,800
Speaker 2: another guy that was in the mix too, But aside

778
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 2: from that, it's been those guys and after it's like

779
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:21,399
Speaker 2: the whole you don't know what you got till it's

780
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:23,319
Speaker 2: gone kind of thing, and it was gone last year

781
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 2: and the defense suffered precipitously from it. So to have

782
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:31,759
Speaker 2: those guys all back in the fold now, I think

783
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 2: they recognize, like this could be the last time we're

784
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 2: all together on a field because Michael Hide's getting to

785
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 2: the end of his career, Jordan Poyer's getting to the

786
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 2: end of his I know, Poyers under contract for twenty

787
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:45,959
Speaker 2: twenty four. Height does not hides up after this year,

788
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:50,400
Speaker 2: so this group may not be together again beyond this season.

789
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 2: So this could be the last dance, so to speak.

790
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:55,359
Speaker 2: To quote Michael Jordan reference, and you're right.

791
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:57,720
Speaker 1: I mean, think about it Todayvius White and Von Miller

792
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 1: on the field together, on the team, playing in a

793
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 1: game for like three plays last year, literally three plays

794
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 1: at Detroit. Tredevi's comes on for one of his series,

795
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:12,319
Speaker 1: you know, he was like rotating series in then, and

796
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 1: Vaughn comes on for that series, gets hurt off. There

797
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:18,360
Speaker 1: they go, and you know, that's kind of the story

798
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:22,400
Speaker 1: of the season for those guys. You never know, I mean,

799
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 1: there's just we got a long way to go before

800
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:26,880
Speaker 1: they you know, kick it off against the Jets on

801
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 1: Monday night. So I think guys at this point are

802
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 1: appreciative of what they've been through. I think they want

803
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 1: to put the lessons they've learned to good use. I

804
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 1: think they appreciate the refurbishing of the roster around them,

805
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:45,840
Speaker 1: and I think they're looking across the way the guys

806
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:48,760
Speaker 1: like Ken Kaid, the guys you know, Gabe Davis, Steph Diggs,

807
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:54,400
Speaker 1: James Cook, the offensive line is is bigger and younger

808
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:57,799
Speaker 1: and more athletic. When they're thinking, man, oh man, let's go.

809
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 1: You know, I think these guys are as for the

810
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:01,279
Speaker 1: season as we are.

811
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 2: Let's take a quick spin around the NFL. We didn't

812
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:04,799
Speaker 2: get to do that at the top of the show

813
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:08,280
Speaker 2: because we had Maddy lab On with us around the NFL,

814
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 2: presented by Kalida Health, the official health care system of

815
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:15,360
Speaker 2: the Buffalo Bills. The big headline news, obviously late yesterday,

816
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:20,439
Speaker 2: was Joe Burrow's calf injury. Carted off the field. It's

817
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 2: only being listed as a calf strain. You know, if

818
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 2: they find out that he tore any part of the

819
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 2: calf muscle, it could be longer. But I'm gonna remind

820
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 2: everybody last year at this time, Joe Burrow was getting

821
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:37,440
Speaker 2: his appendix taken out. Missed the whole preseason and they

822
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:40,239
Speaker 2: were no worse for wear. Now this is a little

823
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:44,320
Speaker 2: bit different, I believe for this reason, Steve, and you

824
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:48,239
Speaker 2: tell me if I'm blowing smoke or not. The calf

825
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 2: strain that he suffered, and again we don't know the

826
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:53,840
Speaker 2: full details of the severity of the injury is on

827
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:57,759
Speaker 2: his right leg, and as a right handed thrower, that

828
00:39:57,920 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 2: is the foot he has to stick in the ground

829
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:01,839
Speaker 2: at the t top of his drop and drive off

830
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:05,319
Speaker 2: of to throw the football and put velocity on it.

831
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:11,360
Speaker 2: I wonder if that's going to lengthen the return time

832
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:13,960
Speaker 2: for him to be able to do what he needs

833
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 2: to do, because if you can't put mustard on the ball,

834
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 2: it's gonna get picked off with the way coverageese.

835
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:22,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know what'll happen too, is he'll get inaccurate,

836
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:24,439
Speaker 1: you know, because he won't be able to push off

837
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 1: the same way as mechanics will start.

838
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:27,840
Speaker 2: If he's cussle it a little bit more.

839
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:29,799
Speaker 1: He'll he'll try to do it with more arms, more

840
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:33,279
Speaker 1: torso he won't push off, he won't step into that,

841
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:35,239
Speaker 1: he won't step off his front you know, come over

842
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:39,880
Speaker 1: his front foot. Well enough, whatever it is, he's going

843
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 1: to adjust to it if he comes back too soon.

844
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:47,319
Speaker 1: But I would think if the Bengals aren't morons, then

845
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:49,240
Speaker 1: he's going to be one hundred percent before he starts

846
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:50,359
Speaker 1: doing anything right.

847
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 2: Free agent running back Dalvin Cook said it's a good

848
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 2: likelihood that he signs with the Jets. He knows there's

849
00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 2: money to be had there after Aaron Rodgers gave back

850
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 2: thirty four million dollars, so he knows, or at least

851
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:05,399
Speaker 2: he's hoping he can get a good contract from them,

852
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:08,400
Speaker 2: even if it's on a one year deal. And Breecee Hall,

853
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:11,440
Speaker 2: while he's coming back from an ACL injury, maybe babied

854
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:15,879
Speaker 2: a little bit, but in the end maybe he feels like, well,

855
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 2: I can at least be the Week one starter and

856
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 2: if I perform, I can stay on the field keep

857
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:22,399
Speaker 2: Breeze Hall off it. So we'll see what comes with that.

858
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 2: And then Dolphins cornerback Jalen Ramsey suffered a torn meniscus

859
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 2: in practice yesterday. He's gonna have knee surgery. He's gonna

860
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 2: miss at least six to eight weeks. Steve, this is

861
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 2: important for this reason. Eight weeks from Tuesday is Bill's Dolphins.

862
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 2: Eight weeks from Tuesday Bill's Dolphins. Jalen Ramsey, I am

863
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 2: going to predict is not gonna make that football game

864
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 2: because initial reports last night from NFL Networks Ian Rapaport

865
00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:00,960
Speaker 2: said he may not be back till December, and then

866
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:03,640
Speaker 2: it got cut back to six to eight at least

867
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:06,279
Speaker 2: six to eight weeks. I don't think he makes that game.

868
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 2: I think it made. They said it would depend on

869
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:13,239
Speaker 2: whether they can repair the meniscus or whether they have

870
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 2: to remove it. If they have to remove it, they said,

871
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 2: it's a longer rehab because you have to regrow the

872
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:22,280
Speaker 2: the connective tissue and that takes longer.

873
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 1: Yeah.

874
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's not good. Yeah no, So we'll they'll find

875
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 2: out when they get in there.

876
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 1: For his long term health. It's been my experience with

877
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:31,920
Speaker 1: my own knees. It's for his long term health. If

878
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:34,400
Speaker 1: they need to leave that meniscus in there and repaired

879
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 1: it with that, there's any way, shape or form they

880
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 1: can do that because later in life it's it's saved. Yeah,

881
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 1: it saves you years of torment. So that's yeah, it's big.

882
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 1: And of course, you know, I'm not trying to be

883
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:51,840
Speaker 1: cynical or flippant about another guy's health. You know most people,

884
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:53,759
Speaker 1: you know, how's he gonna How's he gonna play that?

885
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 1: I don't care when he's fifty, how's he gonna play

886
00:42:56,080 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 1: this year for the Dolphins. That's up to him. It

887
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:03,719
Speaker 1: should be left up to him. If he wants to

888
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 1: take his time, let him sew it up and repair it,

889
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:10,719
Speaker 1: come back when he wants, and it'll be it'll be

890
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 1: interesting to see the shape and the situation the team

891
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 1: is in when he is ready to come back, and

892
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 1: how eager he is to come back.

893
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 2: And help break time for us here when we come back.

894
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 2: More on the goings on here. On day three of

895
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:26,799
Speaker 2: training camp, we'll bring that stuff to you and we

896
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 2: have a jam packed hour number two. Ben Volan from

897
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:33,919
Speaker 2: the Boston Globe will join us, and we'll also have

898
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 2: one Tarn Johnson on the show. Stay tuned, all right,

899
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 2: Welcome back to One Bill's Live, Chris Brown, Steve Tasker

900
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 2: with you. Steve's laughing because he's finally seen the little

901
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 2: social media post. It was Brandon Bean's birthday yesterday, so

902
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:58,839
Speaker 2: they have John. They put up Josh to give him

903
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:02,799
Speaker 2: a birthday gift, and so he opens the box and

904
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 2: it's a bucket hat and he's kind of looking at

905
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:07,759
Speaker 2: it strangely, and Josh has to inform him it's it's

906
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:10,879
Speaker 2: beans on the on the hats like beans on it.

907
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:13,840
Speaker 1: And he goes, it's beans the way he says, it's beans.

908
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 2: To which Brandon responds, you're an idiot.

909
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 5: But I'm gonna say.

910
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:20,120
Speaker 1: This Steve the way he says, it's great.

911
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:23,840
Speaker 2: You know you're an idiot. What does it say about

912
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:27,480
Speaker 2: the relationship between the general manager and the quarterback that

913
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 2: Brandon can look him dead in the face and say,

914
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 2: you're an idiot? It is do you know what I mean? Yes,

915
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:33,960
Speaker 2: I think that speaks to the bond.

916
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:38,319
Speaker 1: It speaks there's a friendship there. And it's not just

917
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:43,920
Speaker 1: Brandon and Josh Allen and Josh Allen, Sean McDermott and

918
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 1: Sean McDermott and Brandon and everybody else, the coordinators and

919
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:51,719
Speaker 1: the players and Micah High, Jordan Poyer. There is a

920
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 1: level now, particularly now going into what is this year

921
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:57,480
Speaker 1: six or seven of Sean McDermott.

922
00:44:58,120 --> 00:44:59,200
Speaker 2: Uh, You're starting to.

923
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:04,359
Speaker 1: See like the growth of his culture become ingrained into

924
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 1: the people that have been here for that long, this

925
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 1: thing here, and I'm telling you, Josh didn't come up

926
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 1: with this idea of giving being a bucket hat with

927
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:15,919
Speaker 1: beans on it. And that even goes even deeper because

928
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:20,240
Speaker 1: are the social media crew here. It's James and Kevin,

929
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 1: Kevin and James, Kevin, James. We just they start coming

930
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:27,799
Speaker 1: up with this stuff and you know, old guys like me,

931
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 1: I'm like, you're doing what you know, like we just

932
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 1: learned to say, you know, do it. And Josh is

933
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:35,000
Speaker 1: all about it too. He says, yeah, you want me

934
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:38,880
Speaker 1: to do it? Yeah, sure, let's go great atmosphere. It

935
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:41,240
Speaker 1: shows up on the It shows up in small ways,

936
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 1: not just the fact that their general manager can tell

937
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 1: your quarterback he's an idiot to his face and laugh

938
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 1: about it. But it manifests itself in ways that are

939
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:53,759
Speaker 1: more tangible, particularly for a football team when they take

940
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 1: the field.

941
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 2: It's it's it's a healthy thing. It makes you feel

942
00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:02,759
Speaker 2: good about. Yeah, the inner workings of this club and

943
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 2: how they can work hand in hand and discussed any

944
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:07,920
Speaker 2: number of issues.

945
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 1: I've said it a ton. The culture that everybody talks

946
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:14,440
Speaker 1: about says, oh it's and we're you know, it sounds

947
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:16,439
Speaker 1: like that here that we're doing the same thing here

948
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:19,360
Speaker 1: about saying how everything's just great. You know, it's this Disneyland.

949
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:23,760
Speaker 1: It's not what it is is. It's a culture where

950
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:31,760
Speaker 1: they can Problems are going to come up in this season. Relationships, arguments, fights, disagreements,

951
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:36,880
Speaker 1: hard feelings, everything's going to come up. The culture is

952
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:42,759
Speaker 1: about handling it, not preventing it. It's about plowing through

953
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:47,040
Speaker 1: it together, not preventing the growth that comes on the

954
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:50,720
Speaker 1: other side of all that stuff. And that's I think

955
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:55,440
Speaker 1: a difference, albeit a subtle difference. It's a difference that

956
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:58,279
Speaker 1: I think goes a little unnoticed by people who just

957
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:00,920
Speaker 1: think it's they laugh at this social media stuff and

958
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:04,720
Speaker 1: all of that. This culture in the building. They're building

959
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 1: it to overcome all the problems that are gonna come

960
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:12,759
Speaker 1: that you can't prevent, and to this point it's been

961
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:15,239
Speaker 1: a masterful job by Sean McDermott, Brandon Bean.

962
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:20,799
Speaker 2: I'm thinking about camp through three days, Steve and I

963
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 2: know we touched on this with Maddie earlier in the hour.

964
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:29,759
Speaker 2: The Alan Diggs connection is the headline, Like, if you

965
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:32,920
Speaker 2: had to put a headline out for the first three

966
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:35,960
Speaker 2: days of camp, that's the headline. And it was capped

967
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 2: off today with a fifty two yard touchdown pass. And

968
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:45,279
Speaker 2: the best thing about that whole route. Diggs comes out

969
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 2: of the left side of the off the left side,

970
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:51,960
Speaker 2: and he runs up the field and he's not even

971
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 2: even with the defensive back in the linebacker who's carrying

972
00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:59,959
Speaker 2: him right he's behind him, shoots his hand up, I'm open,

973
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:02,879
Speaker 2: like I'm here throwing me the ball, and Josh saw

974
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:07,000
Speaker 2: it right away and it was perfect. The pass was perfect.

975
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:10,799
Speaker 2: Stefan Diggs did not break stride on the entire route,

976
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:13,239
Speaker 2: probably caught it at about somewhere between the ten and

977
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:15,799
Speaker 2: the five yard line and just cruised into the end

978
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 2: zone like it was nothing.

979
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 1: I think it very quickly, like let's say day three,

980
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 1: because precise playmaking. Because I think I think this is

981
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 1: one of those moments where I think it happened really

982
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 1: fast this year, and I'm thinking we're both in the

983
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:38,279
Speaker 1: same mindset. I wish now that they or I wish

984
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:41,080
Speaker 1: they had a joint practice with some other guys, or

985
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:44,439
Speaker 1: I wish they had a preseason game this weekend. They

986
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:49,239
Speaker 1: seemed to me, Oh, you know, further down the line

987
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 1: than we've seen him at this early. I mean, we're

988
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:52,719
Speaker 1: three days into this thing, and I'm like going Wow,

989
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 1: I want to see these guys play against somebody else.

990
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 1: They didn't put pads on yet, yeah, and I'm like going, wow,

991
00:48:57,600 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 1: they're you know, they're greased lightnings in some respects.

992
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 2: So break time for us here jam packed. Our number two,

993
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:09,800
Speaker 2: Ben Volan will be joining us from the Boston Globe.

994
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:12,280
Speaker 2: Get a look around the a FC East with him,

995
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:16,600
Speaker 2: and will also be joined by one Tarn Johnson salot

996
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:18,520
Speaker 2: corner for the Bills. We'll be here on set with

997
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:21,040
Speaker 2: us here at training camp at Saint John Fisher. Stay tuned.

998
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:04,880
Speaker 1: The he is One Bill's Live presented by Calllida, helped.

999
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:10,440
Speaker 2: Our number two here on a Friday at Bill's training

1000
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 2: camp Saint John Fisher, Day three in the books and

1001
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:17,960
Speaker 2: it's obl Friday Fan Mailbag Steve, So We'll be catching

1002
00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:21,880
Speaker 2: up with Tarren Johnson and Ben Vollin from the Boston

1003
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:24,360
Speaker 2: Globe in just a little bit, but in the meantime

1004
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:26,759
Speaker 2: we crack open the mail bag and answer some of

1005
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:31,400
Speaker 2: your questions. First one comes from Anthony, who asks thoughts

1006
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 2: on Dalton kin Kaid actually getting playing time during the season.

1007
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:36,520
Speaker 2: It seems like they're setting him up for a prominent role,

1008
00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:38,959
Speaker 2: but the coaching staff historically doesn't play rookies a lot.

1009
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:41,239
Speaker 2: How much does he have to show in the preseason

1010
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:43,719
Speaker 2: to have a solid role. I think he's got to

1011
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 2: keep doing what he's doing right now.

1012
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:49,560
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, And it's about, let's face it, it's about Sharon

1013
00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:54,319
Speaker 1: reps with Dalton Dawson Knox as well, and how he

1014
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:59,160
Speaker 1: fits and how he's different than Dawson. But if their

1015
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:03,880
Speaker 1: best five eligible receivers includes Dalton Kincaid and Dawson Knox,

1016
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:07,400
Speaker 1: that's who's gonna be on the field. If it doesn't,

1017
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:09,479
Speaker 1: it's the other whatever five they have that are gonna

1018
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:11,920
Speaker 1: be on the field. And it also means flexibility too,

1019
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:14,560
Speaker 1: because they can't just like they can't go with five

1020
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:17,440
Speaker 1: wides and not have any threat of the run at

1021
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:21,239
Speaker 1: least in most situations. So you know, there's a lot

1022
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:22,560
Speaker 1: in that question.

1023
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 2: I would be inclined to think he will be part

1024
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:27,320
Speaker 2: of it.

1025
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:29,280
Speaker 1: I think yes, he's gonna get reps.

1026
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:30,000
Speaker 2: Uh.

1027
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:33,960
Speaker 1: And even if it starts slow, from what we've seen

1028
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:40,000
Speaker 1: about his efficiency when he's targeted, the guy's going to

1029
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:40,799
Speaker 1: expand his.

1030
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:43,160
Speaker 2: Role as the season goes on. It's clear to me

1031
00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:46,880
Speaker 2: that they have a plan for him. That plan is

1032
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:49,600
Speaker 2: already being put into action here in the first days

1033
00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:53,200
Speaker 2: of camp. He has come through it with flying colors,

1034
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 2: and I think they're just going to keep keep putting

1035
00:51:56,680 --> 00:52:00,080
Speaker 2: more on his plate to see just how much he

1036
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:03,600
Speaker 2: can handle. And as long as he keeps excelling, which

1037
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:07,040
Speaker 2: he has done to this point, I think the odds

1038
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:11,080
Speaker 2: get shorter and shorter that he will be a prominent

1039
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:14,319
Speaker 2: part of this passing game as a rookie. Yeah.

1040
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:18,040
Speaker 1: Yes, I think he's got that kind of potential, no

1041
00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:20,719
Speaker 1: question about it. How fast it happens, I think is

1042
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:23,600
Speaker 1: a real question. Is he sure got to stay healthy.

1043
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:27,320
Speaker 1: He can't pop a calf muscle that kind of stuff,

1044
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:32,200
Speaker 1: twist an ankle, and as long as he's Here's the

1045
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:34,319
Speaker 1: thing that I think is catching everybody a little bit

1046
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:39,080
Speaker 1: off guard. Seen him take any kind of step backwards,

1047
00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:43,440
Speaker 1: No drop pass, no, no nothing, no fall down in

1048
00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:46,600
Speaker 1: a route, you know, all of that stuff. I mean,

1049
00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:49,400
Speaker 1: the guy just every play he makes looks like it

1050
00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:53,279
Speaker 1: was a play that could not have been run better

1051
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:53,719
Speaker 1: than it was.

1052
00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:56,480
Speaker 2: I may be out of bounds on this, and you

1053
00:52:56,520 --> 00:52:58,400
Speaker 2: can call me on it if you think I am.

1054
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:00,360
Speaker 2: But the one thing I noticed about the way he

1055
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:04,439
Speaker 2: catches the ball is how soft his hands are when

1056
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:07,359
Speaker 2: the ball hits his hands. I don't know what it is.

1057
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:11,520
Speaker 2: He just it just it looks easy, It looks effortless.

1058
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:14,239
Speaker 2: He never looks like he's fighting the football. Whether the

1059
00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:16,759
Speaker 2: ball is inside his body frame or out one hand,

1060
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:20,200
Speaker 2: two hands, it doesn't matter. And the last Bills player

1061
00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 2: that I remember seeing that from on a consistent basis

1062
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:27,959
Speaker 2: was Andre Reid. Andre had soft hands, and you didn't

1063
00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:30,840
Speaker 2: hear the ball all the time either hitting his hands,

1064
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:33,120
Speaker 2: even when Jim was throwing bullets at him.

1065
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:36,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's gonna be fun to watch the guy develop.

1066
00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:40,200
Speaker 1: It's gonna be fun. We were seeing it here right

1067
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:43,640
Speaker 1: in front of us, and I think the coaching stand now.

1068
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:45,960
Speaker 1: There could be things that he's done wrong that we'd

1069
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:49,440
Speaker 1: are privy to, like running the wrong route, mental error, whatever,

1070
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:51,360
Speaker 1: but we don't know what the play was called, what

1071
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:54,719
Speaker 1: his exact responsibilities are. But when he's been targeted, it's

1072
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:57,719
Speaker 1: been a completion and it's been a run after catch

1073
00:53:57,760 --> 00:53:58,799
Speaker 1: as well most of the time.

1074
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:03,200
Speaker 2: Nick on the mail Bag says, if Cook, Harris and

1075
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:05,680
Speaker 2: Murray are all on the fifty three man roster, do

1076
00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:08,279
Speaker 2: you expect them all to be active? On game day

1077
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:14,400
Speaker 2: or would one likely be inactive. That's a good question.

1078
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:17,120
Speaker 2: I would say one would probably be an act. The

1079
00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:19,640
Speaker 2: only reason I say that is going off past history,

1080
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:22,000
Speaker 2: it was very rare that they would have three running

1081
00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:25,000
Speaker 2: backs up on a game day. And Reggie Gilliam is

1082
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:28,080
Speaker 2: kind of the right the what do we call the

1083
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:30,920
Speaker 2: insurance plan there because he plays a prominent role on

1084
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:35,759
Speaker 2: special teams And if that's the catastrophic happens and two

1085
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:37,200
Speaker 2: of the guys that you have up on game day

1086
00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:39,000
Speaker 2: get hurt, Gilliam can get you.

1087
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:40,799
Speaker 1: Through the rest of the year, right And like in

1088
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:43,200
Speaker 1: the years past, it's been Taiwan Jones, who's not here.

1089
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:48,360
Speaker 1: So it depends on the structure of the return game.

1090
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:52,600
Speaker 1: If Deontae Hardy's handling it, then it's an extra wide

1091
00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:57,880
Speaker 1: receiver that who may have been who Hardy might be

1092
00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:00,640
Speaker 1: active anyway, and then to have him be able to

1093
00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:03,600
Speaker 1: return punts is a huge boost. It gives you a

1094
00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:07,640
Speaker 1: spot back. So if that happens, you're still looking for

1095
00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:11,600
Speaker 1: a kickoff returner and it could be Hardy. But if

1096
00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:14,800
Speaker 1: they do that, then Hardy's pretty much wiped off the

1097
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:19,520
Speaker 1: menu for offense because it's it's just heart too hard

1098
00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:22,600
Speaker 1: to do and it's too much on his plate. In

1099
00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:25,440
Speaker 1: my opinion. They may try it for a game or whatever,

1100
00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:27,319
Speaker 1: may be able to finish a game, but you don't

1101
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:29,080
Speaker 1: ever want a guy that's going to come in because

1102
00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:31,839
Speaker 1: if something happens to him, you got a bunch of

1103
00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:33,960
Speaker 1: things you got to fill in. Now you're really scrambling.

1104
00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:40,320
Speaker 1: So I could see a scenario where all three of

1105
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:42,360
Speaker 1: those guys are active, but I think that would I

1106
00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:44,040
Speaker 1: think you're right, Brownie. I think it'll be a week

1107
00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:45,920
Speaker 1: to week thing where one week they will be and

1108
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:48,440
Speaker 1: next week they may not be, depending on the structure

1109
00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:51,680
Speaker 1: of their special teams and how their return team is aligned.

1110
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:56,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, Barker, last one will take here. Christian Benford has

1111
00:55:56,239 --> 00:55:58,640
Speaker 2: been discussed throughout the offseason as a possible third option

1112
00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:00,640
Speaker 2: for the CB two role. It had been been mentioned

1113
00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:02,680
Speaker 2: that he could move to safety. Why is he not

1114
00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:04,560
Speaker 2: neck and neck with Elam at this point? I think

1115
00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:07,719
Speaker 2: the team views him higher than most this offseason. I

1116
00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:10,080
Speaker 2: think he is neck and neck with Elam right now.

1117
00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:14,520
Speaker 2: Those two guys are primarily running with the second team together.

1118
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:19,440
Speaker 2: Benford got rotated up for some first team reps yesterday.

1119
00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:23,920
Speaker 2: Not a lot but a handful. And then today Kyer

1120
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:27,120
Speaker 2: Elam was rotated up due in part to the fact

1121
00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:30,640
Speaker 2: that they scaled back Tradavius White's reps today, so he

1122
00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:35,319
Speaker 2: stepped in for him opposite Dame Jackson. So I think

1123
00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:38,560
Speaker 2: they are neck and neck. Coach mcdermoty told us in

1124
00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:41,000
Speaker 2: the spring that Benford is no longer going to work

1125
00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:43,239
Speaker 2: at safety, at least for now, and that's kind of

1126
00:56:43,239 --> 00:56:43,799
Speaker 2: where it's at.

1127
00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:46,720
Speaker 1: That's, you know, and that's a little bit significant news.

1128
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:50,440
Speaker 1: I think Taylor Rapp and his ability to play have

1129
00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:53,960
Speaker 1: eased those concerns or you know, the thought that they

1130
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:57,680
Speaker 1: may be it'll thin that in that spot. But no,

1131
00:56:57,800 --> 00:57:01,160
Speaker 1: I'm totally with you. Ben is part of the mix.

1132
00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:04,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's right in it.

1133
00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:05,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think the fact that they said now

1134
00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:09,680
Speaker 1: he's a corner rather than a safety tells even strengthens that.

1135
00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:12,520
Speaker 2: I mean, there's three guys in the CB two battle.

1136
00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:16,720
Speaker 2: It's Dane Jackson, Christian Benford, and Kyrie Elam, and no

1137
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:19,640
Speaker 2: one has separated themselves yet. Dan Jackson, as the veteran,

1138
00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:22,680
Speaker 2: has been given the vast majority of the starter reps.

1139
00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:24,760
Speaker 2: We'll see if that changes through the course of camp.

1140
00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:27,720
Speaker 2: Known are only three days in time for us. Now though,

1141
00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:30,640
Speaker 2: to turn to one Taron Johnson, who we had on

1142
00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:33,800
Speaker 2: set right off the practice field here today, let's turn

1143
00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:38,360
Speaker 2: to the Bills slot corner. All right, Aron Johnson, welcome

1144
00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:40,160
Speaker 2: to the show. Thanks for giving us some time here.

1145
00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:41,720
Speaker 2: I know training camp is a busy time for you

1146
00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:45,240
Speaker 2: getting ready for the season. Happy belated birthday. By the way,

1147
00:57:46,040 --> 00:57:47,360
Speaker 2: I want to ask you how old you are. You've

1148
00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:49,120
Speaker 2: been here for a little bit. Now, man, you've been

1149
00:57:49,160 --> 00:57:50,280
Speaker 2: here for a little bit, I.

1150
00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:52,400
Speaker 9: Can tell you how old I am. I'm twenty seven

1151
00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:52,800
Speaker 9: years old.

1152
00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:55,800
Speaker 2: Okay, so he's still a young buck in many many respects.

1153
00:57:56,800 --> 00:57:58,880
Speaker 2: It's just that you've been on the field almost from

1154
00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:01,480
Speaker 2: the jump since you got year. People look at you

1155
00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:04,080
Speaker 2: as a wily veteran. Do you feel like a wily veteran?

1156
00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:05,479
Speaker 5: I mean, you've you know this.

1157
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:08,080
Speaker 2: League, now, you know the opponents you face every year.

1158
00:58:08,120 --> 00:58:10,280
Speaker 2: You've got a working knowledge of probably probably a pretty

1159
00:58:10,280 --> 00:58:12,400
Speaker 2: thick book of notes at home, right, I mean you

1160
00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:14,640
Speaker 2: consider yourself a veteran for sure? Yeah?

1161
00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:16,600
Speaker 12: Sure. I mean I feel like I've had a ton

1162
00:58:16,600 --> 00:58:19,520
Speaker 12: of snaps, more than most people had in their seven

1163
00:58:19,560 --> 00:58:21,040
Speaker 12: year career or six year career.

1164
00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:23,080
Speaker 9: But yeah, I feel like a vet.

1165
00:58:24,120 --> 00:58:25,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, and this you should.

1166
00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:30,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is kind of what your next time go around,

1167
00:58:30,720 --> 00:58:32,600
Speaker 1: the merry go around. This is your training This training

1168
00:58:32,600 --> 00:58:34,920
Speaker 1: camp's gotta feel like just another day at the office,

1169
00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:36,400
Speaker 1: like you never left almost, right.

1170
00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:38,520
Speaker 12: I mean that's how it feels every year. I mean

1171
00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:40,960
Speaker 12: every time I come back to Rochester and then we

1172
00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:43,880
Speaker 12: have OTAs like the season is like an ongoing thing.

1173
00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:45,760
Speaker 9: It never feels over you know what I'm saying. It

1174
00:58:45,760 --> 00:58:46,960
Speaker 9: never feels over you.

1175
00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:49,520
Speaker 2: When we had you on the show here last year

1176
00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:53,200
Speaker 2: a training camp, you had just gotten engaged. I think,

1177
00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:56,560
Speaker 2: if I'm right, then you got married this offseason, so

1178
00:58:57,000 --> 00:58:59,760
Speaker 2: you know, big steps in life. You know, it's one

1179
00:58:59,800 --> 00:59:02,680
Speaker 2: thing to become a professional, but it's one thing to

1180
00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:05,160
Speaker 2: you know, start a family and that kind of thing.

1181
00:59:05,240 --> 00:59:07,680
Speaker 2: So congrats on that. How did everything go? Is it

1182
00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:08,160
Speaker 2: a nice day?

1183
00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:11,520
Speaker 12: You get good weather and yeah it was a little cloudy,

1184
00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:14,080
Speaker 12: but it was probably the best day of my life.

1185
00:59:14,200 --> 00:59:15,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I also was.

1186
00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:16,240
Speaker 5: It was great and.

1187
00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:18,760
Speaker 9: I had a lot of love there, so I loved it.

1188
00:59:18,920 --> 00:59:21,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, good for you. Question I want to ask you

1189
00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:25,560
Speaker 2: football related though, because I think over the last several

1190
00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:29,480
Speaker 2: years this has been predominantly a nickel defense. That is

1191
00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:32,160
Speaker 2: the base you're on the field ninety five percent of

1192
00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:36,480
Speaker 2: the time now. At the same time, that gives your

1193
00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:40,560
Speaker 2: opponents every week the ability to know Taron Johnson's going

1194
00:59:40,600 --> 00:59:43,120
Speaker 2: to be here ninety five percent of the time when

1195
00:59:43,120 --> 00:59:45,240
Speaker 2: we put our offense out on the field. Now, I'm

1196
00:59:45,240 --> 00:59:47,000
Speaker 2: not saying that puts you guys at a disadvantage. You

1197
00:59:47,040 --> 00:59:48,520
Speaker 2: guys are going to do what you do best, but

1198
00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:52,560
Speaker 2: I would like to think it forces you to try

1199
00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:56,400
Speaker 2: to prepare as best you and your defensive staff can

1200
00:59:57,440 --> 01:00:01,160
Speaker 2: for different trends that could be coming at you. Knowing

1201
01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:03,920
Speaker 2: you guys play, hey, this is what we do because

1202
01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:05,840
Speaker 2: we're damn good at it. But they're going to try to.

1203
01:00:06,120 --> 01:00:08,240
Speaker 5: Solve the Rubik's cube of the Bill's defense.

1204
01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:11,840
Speaker 2: How do you and your defensive coaches try to prepare

1205
01:00:11,920 --> 01:00:14,360
Speaker 2: for some of those trends? Like last year, for example,

1206
01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:17,200
Speaker 2: people started throwing guards at you to take you out

1207
01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:19,600
Speaker 2: of the run front because you're such a good run stopper.

1208
01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:21,720
Speaker 2: They tried to throw size at you. How do you

1209
01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:24,560
Speaker 2: prepare for some of those trends that could be coming

1210
01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:25,440
Speaker 2: your way this season?

1211
01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:29,720
Speaker 12: Really just watching film, watching the past film of how

1212
01:00:29,800 --> 01:00:31,600
Speaker 12: teams try to attack me and things like that, and

1213
01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:34,040
Speaker 12: coaches have done a lot of different things to try

1214
01:00:34,040 --> 01:00:37,120
Speaker 12: to put us in the best position, you know what

1215
01:00:37,120 --> 01:00:40,560
Speaker 12: I'm saying. So it's just a combination of those things

1216
01:00:40,600 --> 01:00:43,080
Speaker 12: and me just taking accountability and making sure that I'm

1217
01:00:43,080 --> 01:00:46,880
Speaker 12: continually getting better, continually studying film and continuing like trying

1218
01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:47,880
Speaker 12: to figure out my opponent.

1219
01:00:48,200 --> 01:00:50,160
Speaker 1: One of the things that happens when you guys do

1220
01:00:50,200 --> 01:00:52,240
Speaker 1: play so much of the same personnel on the field

1221
01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:57,120
Speaker 1: is you start to get you recognize where teams are going.

1222
01:00:56,840 --> 01:00:57,400
Speaker 2: To attack you.

1223
01:00:57,520 --> 01:01:00,320
Speaker 1: Like he said, you can see, you know the if

1224
01:01:00,360 --> 01:01:01,880
Speaker 1: it's a run game, they're going to send the guard

1225
01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:05,000
Speaker 1: out at you. And there's certain aspects of your defense

1226
01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:09,200
Speaker 1: where you just know that most teams, particularly teams in

1227
01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:11,360
Speaker 1: your own division and that kind of thing, you kind

1228
01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:13,480
Speaker 1: of know what they're thinking about your defense. Right to

1229
01:01:13,520 --> 01:01:16,640
Speaker 1: give us an idea of where you know what teams

1230
01:01:16,720 --> 01:01:18,880
Speaker 1: think about your defense, you can tell by watching film

1231
01:01:18,920 --> 01:01:21,040
Speaker 1: what they think of your defense. Where do they usually

1232
01:01:21,080 --> 01:01:22,000
Speaker 1: try and attack.

1233
01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:25,480
Speaker 12: You, maybe specifically in a run game where they try

1234
01:01:25,520 --> 01:01:27,480
Speaker 12: to get all the linebackers out of the box and

1235
01:01:27,800 --> 01:01:30,040
Speaker 12: have me basically be the middle linebacker.

1236
01:01:30,280 --> 01:01:30,880
Speaker 9: In the box.

1237
01:01:31,160 --> 01:01:34,120
Speaker 12: So really that just comes with me getting continue to

1238
01:01:34,120 --> 01:01:36,240
Speaker 12: getting better at my tackling. People gonna say I'm small

1239
01:01:36,320 --> 01:01:39,240
Speaker 12: or whatever, and that's okay. But I've been doing this

1240
01:01:39,240 --> 01:01:43,320
Speaker 12: for a couple of years now, so so it's just

1241
01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:44,840
Speaker 12: like it is what it is, and I just want

1242
01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:47,960
Speaker 12: to continue to get better at whatever position they're putting

1243
01:01:47,960 --> 01:01:48,240
Speaker 12: me in.

1244
01:01:48,480 --> 01:01:49,520
Speaker 9: I want to excel.

1245
01:01:49,280 --> 01:01:53,200
Speaker 2: At Coach McDermott is calling this defense now he's in

1246
01:01:53,240 --> 01:01:56,440
Speaker 2: your meeting room's probably more than maybe he was even before.

1247
01:01:58,680 --> 01:02:05,000
Speaker 2: How have you kind of taking his new responsibility as

1248
01:02:05,040 --> 01:02:07,480
Speaker 2: a player. Obviously he's got a lot on his plate

1249
01:02:07,520 --> 01:02:10,560
Speaker 2: as head coach and play caller now, but I'm curious

1250
01:02:10,560 --> 01:02:13,720
Speaker 2: from a player perspective, how do you guys absorb that

1251
01:02:13,800 --> 01:02:17,640
Speaker 2: different side of coach now that he's calling it? If

1252
01:02:17,640 --> 01:02:18,240
Speaker 2: that makes sense.

1253
01:02:18,280 --> 01:02:20,200
Speaker 12: Yeah, So, I mean he tells us when he's in

1254
01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:22,960
Speaker 12: the defensive room he's a decordinator. He's not the head coach,

1255
01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:25,400
Speaker 12: you know what I'm saying. So it's an open dialogue,

1256
01:02:25,480 --> 01:02:28,200
Speaker 12: you know. So he wants us to have our opinions

1257
01:02:28,200 --> 01:02:29,680
Speaker 12: and he wants to hear what we have to say too,

1258
01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:32,680
Speaker 12: especially the guys who've been here for a long period

1259
01:02:32,680 --> 01:02:35,480
Speaker 12: of time, you know, So just him. I feel like

1260
01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:38,200
Speaker 12: the way he coaches, like the details of it is

1261
01:02:38,440 --> 01:02:39,480
Speaker 12: going to help us tremendously.

1262
01:02:39,800 --> 01:02:42,440
Speaker 1: He is he is he running the meetings on the

1263
01:02:42,480 --> 01:02:44,920
Speaker 1: defensive side. Now, I'm sure other guys, you know, you

1264
01:02:44,920 --> 01:02:47,800
Speaker 1: get him. You know your position coaches and and you

1265
01:02:47,840 --> 01:02:50,640
Speaker 1: know line and plus you know the linebackers coach an

1266
01:02:50,680 --> 01:02:53,720
Speaker 1: you guys mix up your meetings on defense. Is Sean

1267
01:02:53,800 --> 01:02:55,440
Speaker 1: running and installing all the defenses?

1268
01:02:55,800 --> 01:02:58,720
Speaker 12: Yeah, when we're meeting together as a full defense, he's

1269
01:02:58,760 --> 01:03:01,280
Speaker 12: He's the guy up there, he's talking and we're just listening.

1270
01:03:01,440 --> 01:03:02,640
Speaker 1: That's different, isn't it.

1271
01:03:02,640 --> 01:03:04,720
Speaker 12: It is different. It is different, But I'm enjoying it,

1272
01:03:04,760 --> 01:03:05,920
Speaker 12: you know what I'm saying. I feel like he's a

1273
01:03:05,920 --> 01:03:08,720
Speaker 12: great coach and a great defensive coach, and I'm just

1274
01:03:08,760 --> 01:03:10,800
Speaker 12: excited to see what we do this year.

1275
01:03:11,200 --> 01:03:14,840
Speaker 2: Taylor Rapp is a guy that I think on twenty

1276
01:03:14,960 --> 01:03:17,320
Speaker 2: nine thirty other teams would be in your starting lineup.

1277
01:03:17,360 --> 01:03:19,080
Speaker 2: But you got two guys by the name of Jordan

1278
01:03:19,120 --> 01:03:21,280
Speaker 2: Porter and Micah Hyde and your secondary so it makes

1279
01:03:21,280 --> 01:03:24,440
Speaker 2: it a little difficult. But he seems to be one

1280
01:03:24,480 --> 01:03:29,160
Speaker 2: of those types of talents where coach McDermott says, he's

1281
01:03:30,080 --> 01:03:33,000
Speaker 2: so good we have to find ways to get him

1282
01:03:33,000 --> 01:03:35,080
Speaker 2: on the field to be part of the starting eleven

1283
01:03:35,520 --> 01:03:38,040
Speaker 2: at times, whether it's packages or whatever. I'm not looking

1284
01:03:38,080 --> 01:03:40,280
Speaker 2: to reveal any strategy here, but I guess what I'm

1285
01:03:40,320 --> 01:03:44,480
Speaker 2: asking you is how much can he change how your

1286
01:03:44,640 --> 01:03:48,080
Speaker 2: defense looks if coach McDermott decides to use him as

1287
01:03:48,520 --> 01:03:50,400
Speaker 2: a movable chess piece, if you will.

1288
01:03:50,440 --> 01:03:52,560
Speaker 9: I mean just his physicality alone.

1289
01:03:52,560 --> 01:03:55,280
Speaker 12: You know, he's a bigger dB so and as you

1290
01:03:55,280 --> 01:03:57,400
Speaker 12: can see with his rams film, like, he knows how

1291
01:03:57,400 --> 01:04:00,160
Speaker 12: to tackle and things like that. So just feel like

1292
01:04:00,200 --> 01:04:02,400
Speaker 12: you could put him really anywhere on the field and

1293
01:04:02,680 --> 01:04:04,440
Speaker 12: he's going to help us. He's such a smart player

1294
01:04:04,480 --> 01:04:06,440
Speaker 12: that he's going to know the different positions. He's going

1295
01:04:06,480 --> 01:04:08,320
Speaker 12: to know Nick, or he's gonna know safety, he's gonna

1296
01:04:08,360 --> 01:04:10,600
Speaker 12: know Din, you know what I'm saying. So just those

1297
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Speaker 12: different things, he's gonna help us a lot.

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Speaker 1: What has Sean told you guys about how things might

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Speaker 1: be different?

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Speaker 9: I mean, just I take it one day at a time.

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Speaker 12: I feel like he's mixing up the calls, just trying

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Speaker 12: to see what works best for us, and just trying

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Speaker 12: to see how we can.

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Speaker 9: Improve off of last year, and I feel like we're

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Speaker 9: doing that.

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Speaker 2: He has used this word a lot, and I remember

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Speaker 2: when he used it when you first got here, going

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Speaker 2: from twenty seventeen to twenty eighteen. I still remember the

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Speaker 2: press conference where he said, I was very happy with

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Speaker 2: what our defense did in their first year. He goes,

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Speaker 2: but I want to see a little more nasty from

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Speaker 2: my defense. The word he's using now is physical. He

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Speaker 2: wants a physical presence and identity with your deep not

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Speaker 2: to say you guys didn't play physical last year or

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Speaker 2: any year before that or the year before that. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: but it seems like that is an emphasis, like he

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01:05:02,120 --> 01:05:06,200
Speaker 2: wants he wants the opponent to know they played the

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Speaker 2: Bills defense when the game is over, like feel it,

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean? So are you sensing that

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Speaker 2: from him? Like there's an emphasis placed on that it's

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Speaker 2: a physical game. We all know, you guys got to

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Speaker 2: bring it every week. Yeah, you know, regardless, I mean,

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Speaker 2: it's football. But there seems to be an emphasis from

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Speaker 2: him on that. Are you guys getting that because he's

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Speaker 2: giving us that in the press conferences. I'm just curious

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Speaker 2: if that same message is being delivered to you guys

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Speaker 2: for sure.

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Speaker 12: For sure, especially like especially specifically with the DVS. You know,

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Speaker 12: he wants us tackling our corners.

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Speaker 9: Tackle.

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Speaker 12: You know what I'm saying, I'm gonna tackle and I'm

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Speaker 12: gonna hit you as hard as I can every time.

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Speaker 9: So it's like.

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Speaker 12: We just want to be as physical as we possibly can.

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Speaker 12: And that's my mindset coming into each and every game.

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Speaker 1: When you get into this training camp, you know, there's

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01:05:49,720 --> 01:05:51,360
Speaker 1: always kind of one day at a time, like you know,

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Speaker 1: you're just trying to put one foot in front of

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Speaker 1: particular on a day like today when it's you know,

1340
01:05:54,960 --> 01:05:56,960
Speaker 1: nine hundred degrees on the field and he's trying to

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Speaker 1: kind of endure through it. Yeah, when you know, what's

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01:05:59,480 --> 01:06:02,160
Speaker 1: the next plateau that you guys look for. Is it

1343
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Speaker 1: that first preseason game or is it just you know,

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Speaker 1: dinner tonight, dinner tonight.

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Speaker 9: We got an off day tomorrow, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 12: So that's going I'm just gonna enjoy that and enjoy

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Speaker 12: the rest of my night. Well after meetings, then enjoy

1348
01:06:14,120 --> 01:06:17,280
Speaker 12: the rest of my night, and then go home to

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Speaker 12: my wife and just show with her.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the middle linebacker position is something that's being contested

1351
01:06:23,600 --> 01:06:26,400
Speaker 2: and competed for right next to you in this defense.

1352
01:06:27,000 --> 01:06:30,120
Speaker 2: And you know, we've talked about different candidates that are

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Speaker 2: up for that job, and they're going to be battling

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Speaker 2: their way all through camping presumably part of the preseason

1355
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Speaker 2: as well. But the communication element for you, because I mean,

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Speaker 2: these guys are right next to you in your ear hole.

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Speaker 2: How how is it for you to kind of get

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Speaker 2: the input from maybe one guy one day and then

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Speaker 2: another guy the next day. I mean, it's not like

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Speaker 2: you don't know these guys. The Inspector's been here, Dodson's

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Speaker 2: been here, Bernard's been here, so they've all been here.

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Speaker 5: You've heard their voices out.

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Speaker 2: On the field. But how do you stay sharp and

1364
01:07:01,520 --> 01:07:03,920
Speaker 2: how do you kind of take in what they're giving

1365
01:07:03,960 --> 01:07:07,520
Speaker 2: you knowing it's a different voice maybe sometimes from one

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Speaker 2: day to the next.

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Speaker 12: I think Bobby's doing a hell of a job because

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Speaker 12: Bobby Babbage, because I can't even tell the difference. These

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Speaker 12: guys know their stuff, all three of them, you know

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Speaker 12: what I'm saying. They know what they're doing out there,

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Speaker 12: and you could tell they're studying their books, because I mean,

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Speaker 12: it's a lot for the middle linebacker, It really is,

1373
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Speaker 12: you're calling the checks. You really like the quarterback of

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Speaker 12: the defense. So it's just you could tell they're in

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Speaker 12: their books and they've been studying.

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Speaker 2: Do they And I'm curious about this because obviously the

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Speaker 2: coaches want to make the best decision for what's best

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Speaker 2: for the defense in terms of ultimately making the decision

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Speaker 2: as to who that starting middle linebacker is going to be,

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Speaker 2: And obviously they huddle up and discuss. Do they bounce

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Speaker 2: questions off players? Like, hey, how is this going? You

1382
01:07:52,760 --> 01:07:54,720
Speaker 2: know what I mean? Like, do they bounce those kinds

1383
01:07:54,720 --> 01:07:56,680
Speaker 2: of questions off players because you're you're the guys on

1384
01:07:56,680 --> 01:07:58,240
Speaker 2: the field. They got to play with that guy.

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Speaker 9: I feel you.

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Speaker 12: No, they don't ask me, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 12: They might ask Michael or Poe, you know, but they're

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01:08:07,160 --> 01:08:10,720
Speaker 12: not asking me, just like, uh, it's where out there?

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Speaker 12: I mean, I trust, I trust all through, you know

1390
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Speaker 12: what I'm saying. So because I know they know what

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Speaker 12: they're doing and they all through then play physical and

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Speaker 12: that's that's all we really need, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: So you know, so you mister Tremaine Edmonds isn't here

1394
01:08:21,400 --> 01:08:24,120
Speaker 1: first time? Probably did you running this defense without him

1395
01:08:24,120 --> 01:08:28,599
Speaker 1: the same draft class? Yeah, so give us an insight,

1396
01:08:28,720 --> 01:08:30,559
Speaker 1: is you know, certainly you wish the best for Tremaine.

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Speaker 1: I mean he says he's your bro, right, I mean

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Speaker 1: for sure, great dude and wishing all the best. What

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Speaker 1: has been the conversation about the collective attitude of the

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Speaker 1: guys going in the season without.

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Speaker 12: Him just stepping up, like, you know what I'm saying, Like,

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01:08:45,080 --> 01:08:47,479
Speaker 12: not only a middle linebacker steping out, I want all

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01:08:47,520 --> 01:08:49,040
Speaker 12: of us to step up, like I want to make

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Speaker 12: sure I'm improving this year.

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Speaker 9: As well, you know what I'm saying, And I feel

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Speaker 9: like everybody.

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Speaker 12: If everyone has that same mindset, then the sky is

1408
01:08:55,479 --> 01:08:57,559
Speaker 12: the limit and you get it to see a young

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Speaker 12: guy step up and become We don't even know what

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01:09:00,360 --> 01:09:02,280
Speaker 12: these three guys can even become yet because they ain't

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Speaker 12: even had that opportunity to get you know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 12: So I'm excited to see what they could do.

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Speaker 2: Fair enough, Tarren, thanks for the time as always, Good

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Speaker 2: luck the rest of training camp here, stay healthy please

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01:09:12,360 --> 01:09:15,720
Speaker 2: not only now but through the regular season. And uh man,

1416
01:09:15,840 --> 01:09:17,559
Speaker 2: just knock it right out of the park week one man,

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01:09:17,720 --> 01:09:22,040
Speaker 2: just jump on those Jets. Time jump on Tarren Johnson

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Speaker 2: joining us here on One Bill's Live. We will take

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Speaker 2: a break, but when we come back, we'll be joined

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Speaker 2: by Ben Volan from the Boston Globe, gonna spin us

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Speaker 2: around the AFC East when we return here on One

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Speaker 2: Bill's Live, presented by Cold of Health, this is Buffalo

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Speaker 2: Bills Radio. Welcome back to One Bill's Live here at

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01:09:47,880 --> 01:09:50,880
Speaker 2: training camp at Saint John Fisher, day number three, and

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01:09:51,120 --> 01:09:53,800
Speaker 2: please to be joined now by the man sitting between us,

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01:09:54,160 --> 01:09:58,120
Speaker 2: Ben Volin. Did I get that right? It's Volin? Volin,

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01:09:59,160 --> 01:10:01,760
Speaker 2: I got a mental blo. I am sorry, all right?

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01:10:02,280 --> 01:10:05,120
Speaker 2: Then Volan joining us. Boston Globe guests should come on

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01:10:05,160 --> 01:10:07,160
Speaker 2: more often so we get that right. Well, he's been

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Speaker 2: on before and I still can't get it right.

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Speaker 5: So that's on me.

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Speaker 2: So I apologize in advance. Thanks for giving us some

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01:10:12,280 --> 01:10:14,680
Speaker 2: time making the way through training camp here. And I

1434
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Speaker 2: know you've got your ear to the ground on the

1435
01:10:16,000 --> 01:10:18,599
Speaker 2: AFC East as well. But let's start with team number

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01:10:18,640 --> 01:10:22,800
Speaker 2: one with you, which is the Patriots. And I don't

1437
01:10:22,840 --> 01:10:24,640
Speaker 2: know what to I don't know what to make of

1438
01:10:24,640 --> 01:10:26,200
Speaker 2: that team. I know we've talked to you in the

1439
01:10:26,240 --> 01:10:28,559
Speaker 2: off season about you know, Bill O'Brien being back in

1440
01:10:28,600 --> 01:10:31,120
Speaker 2: the fold. So we're at least expecting the offense to

1441
01:10:31,160 --> 01:10:35,880
Speaker 2: be significantly improved in terms of functionality anyway. But in

1442
01:10:36,000 --> 01:10:37,720
Speaker 2: terms of talent, you know, they miss out on the

1443
01:10:37,760 --> 01:10:42,720
Speaker 2: DeAndre Hopkins ad DeVante Parker is a supreme talent. But

1444
01:10:42,760 --> 01:10:45,760
Speaker 2: we don't know is see it every week? Who who

1445
01:10:45,880 --> 01:10:48,840
Speaker 2: on this roster? You know, Kobe Myers is in Las Vegas. Now,

1446
01:10:49,280 --> 01:10:52,240
Speaker 2: how do you look at the offensive unit for them?

1447
01:10:52,280 --> 01:10:55,000
Speaker 2: Can you say on paper they're better than last year?

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Speaker 5: Yes, that's a good question.

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Speaker 13: Yes, I can say on paper that the Patriots I

1450
01:10:59,600 --> 01:11:02,200
Speaker 13: think are better on offense than they were last year.

1451
01:11:02,600 --> 01:11:04,800
Speaker 13: I like the addition of Juju smith Schuster. I think

1452
01:11:04,840 --> 01:11:06,719
Speaker 13: he's a better fit for what they want to do there.

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01:11:07,040 --> 01:11:10,240
Speaker 13: They're kind of casually comparing him to like a Julian

1454
01:11:10,320 --> 01:11:13,280
Speaker 13: Edelman type, like a more physical yards after the catch

1455
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Speaker 13: slot receiver.

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Speaker 2: Coach.

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Speaker 5: I don't think Kobe Myers was really that guy.

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Speaker 13: He was a very consistent and steady receiver, but was

1459
01:11:18,880 --> 01:11:22,559
Speaker 13: not very dynamic possession. Yeah, whereas I think Juju will

1460
01:11:23,000 --> 01:11:25,640
Speaker 13: definitely be a nice physical presence over the middle. I

1461
01:11:25,760 --> 01:11:28,000
Speaker 13: like the addition of MIKASICKI I think he could be

1462
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Speaker 13: a solid number two tight end. Here's how I think

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Speaker 13: of the and of course, as you mentioned Bill O'Brien,

1464
01:11:33,040 --> 01:11:36,640
Speaker 13: I mean just having a more respected offensive coach. I

1465
01:11:36,640 --> 01:11:38,720
Speaker 13: think you'll see more buying from the players. Last year,

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Speaker 13: I think that was an issue when you have Matt

1467
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Speaker 13: Patricia and Joe.

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Speaker 5: Judge running the offense. Here here's how I view the Patriots.

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Speaker 13: On paper, it looked decent, you know, especially if Mac

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Speaker 13: Jones can play.

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Speaker 5: Like he did his rookie year. There are some intriguing pieces.

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Speaker 5: DeVante Parker has had some big games.

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Speaker 13: Juju Ramandre Stevenson I think is a potential superstarlent. Yeah,

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01:12:00,040 --> 01:12:01,640
Speaker 13: asking for a lot to go right. They need a

1475
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Speaker 13: lot to go right. They need Mac Jones and that

1476
01:12:03,680 --> 01:12:06,559
Speaker 13: offense to click immediately with Bill O'Brien and for everyone

1477
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Speaker 13: to stay healthy and to kind of have career years.

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Speaker 5: And like, I would like them better if they went

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Speaker 5: out and.

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Speaker 13: Got Hopkins because I think they have a bunch of

1481
01:12:13,560 --> 01:12:15,280
Speaker 13: number two and three receivers. I don't know if they

1482
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Speaker 13: have that number one guy like the Bills have and

1483
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Speaker 13: a lot of teams have, so I think there's talent there.

1484
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Speaker 13: They're just asking for a lot of things to go right.

1485
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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're we're looking at an AFC East that's changed

1486
01:12:24,640 --> 01:12:26,200
Speaker 1: a lot in the last four or five years. I

1487
01:12:26,240 --> 01:12:29,600
Speaker 1: mean it's almost top turned upside down. And now the

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Speaker 1: Jets in Miami are now they are after the Bills

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Speaker 1: and they've closed that gap. What are the expectations for

1490
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Speaker 1: the Patriots and their fan base? What are they thinking

1491
01:12:39,520 --> 01:12:41,840
Speaker 1: about this year? Now the division has become so much

1492
01:12:41,840 --> 01:12:42,520
Speaker 1: more formidable.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, I've never seen a more pessimistic fan base as

1494
01:12:45,880 --> 01:12:48,599
Speaker 13: aylar as Patriots expectations. I think the fans, the ones

1495
01:12:48,640 --> 01:12:51,439
Speaker 13: who are realistic, they see it. I mean, the Bills

1496
01:12:51,600 --> 01:12:54,040
Speaker 13: have been dominant. The only game the Patriots have won

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Speaker 13: the last three years was in fifty mile an hour wins.

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01:12:57,240 --> 01:12:59,800
Speaker 13: The Dolphins have always given the Patriots problems, and now

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Speaker 13: they Vic Fangio with their defensive coordinator and a very

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Speaker 13: dynamic offense, a track team basically. And now the Jets

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Speaker 13: with Aaron Rodgers. I'm drinking the kool aid. I think

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Speaker 13: they're going to be fantastic. I think Rogers is going

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Speaker 13: to be the difference maker this year. So I think

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Speaker 13: the realistic Patriots fans are pessimistic that this is just

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Speaker 13: another season of a team that they'll be competitive. They'll

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Speaker 13: be in the eight to nine to ten win range,

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Speaker 13: I think, but doesn't look like they have the high

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Speaker 13: end talent. Doesn't look like they're realistically going to be

1509
01:13:27,080 --> 01:13:30,479
Speaker 13: competing for a super Bowl this year. The AFC is loaded,

1510
01:13:30,479 --> 01:13:32,960
Speaker 13: and the Patriots just look like kind of a middle

1511
01:13:32,960 --> 01:13:33,960
Speaker 13: of the pack team right now.

1512
01:13:34,280 --> 01:13:38,719
Speaker 2: Defensively for them, I know they're excited about Barmore being healthy.

1513
01:13:38,800 --> 01:13:41,599
Speaker 2: Now he's a I don't know, I don't I think

1514
01:13:41,600 --> 01:13:43,680
Speaker 2: he's still a very much under the radar player on

1515
01:13:43,720 --> 01:13:45,920
Speaker 2: the NFL landscape. That guy's got the potential to be

1516
01:13:45,960 --> 01:13:48,840
Speaker 2: a game record type, at least as far as I

1517
01:13:48,880 --> 01:13:51,360
Speaker 2: see it. You may disagree watching him up close and personal,

1518
01:13:52,680 --> 01:13:54,840
Speaker 2: but I just like him and the combination of him

1519
01:13:54,880 --> 01:13:59,280
Speaker 2: and Judon that forces an offensive line into making some

1520
01:13:59,360 --> 01:14:03,080
Speaker 2: business to suit. Who are we focusing on here? And

1521
01:14:03,160 --> 01:14:06,000
Speaker 2: I think is an underrated player on the other side

1522
01:14:06,520 --> 01:14:10,760
Speaker 2: opposite Judon? What do you think of the defense? I

1523
01:14:10,800 --> 01:14:13,960
Speaker 2: know people are excited about Gonzales on the back end,

1524
01:14:14,360 --> 01:14:16,240
Speaker 2: So where do you kind of come down on their

1525
01:14:16,280 --> 01:14:18,599
Speaker 2: defensive unit from last year to this year?

1526
01:14:18,840 --> 01:14:21,160
Speaker 5: Should I would expect it to be a very good defense.

1527
01:14:21,160 --> 01:14:23,240
Speaker 13: Again, that's been the backbone of their team the last

1528
01:14:23,280 --> 01:14:26,200
Speaker 13: several years, while they're retooling things on offense.

1529
01:14:26,840 --> 01:14:28,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, you mentioned Barmore.

1530
01:14:28,439 --> 01:14:30,680
Speaker 13: I think there are high expectations for him now going

1531
01:14:30,720 --> 01:14:33,600
Speaker 13: into his third year. Battle some injuries last year, was

1532
01:14:33,640 --> 01:14:35,960
Speaker 13: never really able to get into a consistent flow of

1533
01:14:35,960 --> 01:14:39,800
Speaker 13: the season. Between Barmore and Devon Gotschaw. They really like

1534
01:14:39,840 --> 01:14:43,400
Speaker 13: those two in the middle. Judon and especially is kind

1535
01:14:43,400 --> 01:14:44,880
Speaker 13: of cleaning up on a lot of one on one

1536
01:14:44,920 --> 01:14:48,599
Speaker 13: matchups on the outside. I really liked their front seven,

1537
01:14:48,760 --> 01:14:50,599
Speaker 13: and then Christian Gonzalez the first round pick.

1538
01:14:51,000 --> 01:14:53,759
Speaker 5: They needed a guy like that. They haven't had a big.

1539
01:14:53,600 --> 01:14:56,360
Speaker 13: Physical cornerback since they lost Stefan Gilmour a couple of

1540
01:14:56,400 --> 01:14:58,960
Speaker 13: years ago. They had all their cornerbacks were under six

1541
01:14:59,000 --> 01:15:01,040
Speaker 13: feet tolls. They had to go get a guy like

1542
01:15:01,080 --> 01:15:02,800
Speaker 13: that to be able to match up with some receivers.

1543
01:15:03,479 --> 01:15:05,960
Speaker 13: My one issue with the Patriots defense is that even

1544
01:15:06,200 --> 01:15:08,559
Speaker 13: the last couple of years, it's been a very good.

1545
01:15:08,360 --> 01:15:10,160
Speaker 5: Defense, but not an all time defense.

1546
01:15:10,160 --> 01:15:13,960
Speaker 13: The Bills have had little problem I think shredding the

1547
01:15:13,960 --> 01:15:16,519
Speaker 13: Patriots a few times, and the Patriots have kind of

1548
01:15:16,520 --> 01:15:19,559
Speaker 13: feasted on like the Sam Howels and Sam Allingers of

1549
01:15:19,600 --> 01:15:22,240
Speaker 13: the world. And then when they play the Josh Allens

1550
01:15:22,280 --> 01:15:24,960
Speaker 13: and even Tua, that's when the defense starts to look

1551
01:15:24,960 --> 01:15:27,160
Speaker 13: a little more average. And they lost Devin mccordy, and

1552
01:15:27,200 --> 01:15:28,880
Speaker 13: I think that's a big, big loss.

1553
01:15:28,920 --> 01:15:30,479
Speaker 5: He retired after thirteen years.

1554
01:15:31,560 --> 01:15:33,960
Speaker 13: Can't be overstated how important he was on the field

1555
01:15:34,240 --> 01:15:36,559
Speaker 13: really as a coach on the field, getting guys lined up,

1556
01:15:37,280 --> 01:15:39,800
Speaker 13: what the Titans in motion watch out for this.

1557
01:15:40,040 --> 01:15:41,559
Speaker 5: You can't replicate that stuff.

1558
01:15:41,840 --> 01:15:44,400
Speaker 13: And then they just they have a lot of talented safeties,

1559
01:15:44,400 --> 01:15:46,519
Speaker 13: but not many guys who have really played center field.

1560
01:15:46,520 --> 01:15:48,799
Speaker 13: They've got guys who have attacked the line of scrimmage.

1561
01:15:48,800 --> 01:15:51,559
Speaker 13: So how are they going to replace mccordy his play

1562
01:15:51,720 --> 01:15:53,760
Speaker 13: as the deep, you know, last line of defense, and

1563
01:15:53,800 --> 01:15:57,559
Speaker 13: then his leadership role and everything he does on the field.

1564
01:15:57,800 --> 01:15:59,200
Speaker 5: So that to me is gonna be a big loss

1565
01:15:59,200 --> 01:15:59,759
Speaker 5: for them.

1566
01:16:00,000 --> 01:16:02,120
Speaker 1: I got to ask you about this that I'm going

1567
01:16:02,200 --> 01:16:04,280
Speaker 1: to go back to the big picture of the division again.

1568
01:16:05,320 --> 01:16:10,000
Speaker 1: Vic Fangio, new coordinator in Miami. In New York, You've

1569
01:16:10,000 --> 01:16:12,840
Speaker 1: got Nate Hackett and Aaron Rodgers. Huge change on that

1570
01:16:12,880 --> 01:16:14,680
Speaker 1: side of the ball there in Buffalo. You've got the

1571
01:16:14,680 --> 01:16:18,479
Speaker 1: head coach now calling the defenses here and in New England,

1572
01:16:18,960 --> 01:16:21,000
Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien's back, and I don't want to talk about

1573
01:16:21,000 --> 01:16:22,679
Speaker 1: any of those. I want to ask about the defense

1574
01:16:22,720 --> 01:16:25,479
Speaker 1: in New England. Who's calling, who's running it, How that's

1575
01:16:25,520 --> 01:16:29,759
Speaker 1: gonna work because we hear we kind of get snips

1576
01:16:29,760 --> 01:16:31,880
Speaker 1: and snaps. How's the rhetoric coming out of that.

1577
01:16:31,840 --> 01:16:32,400
Speaker 2: Side of the ball.

1578
01:16:32,560 --> 01:16:35,400
Speaker 13: Yeah, everything with the Patriots has to be a big mystery, right.

1579
01:16:35,560 --> 01:16:37,960
Speaker 13: They're not big on titles there. For the last several

1580
01:16:38,040 --> 01:16:41,800
Speaker 13: years years, Steve Belichick, the coach's son, has really been

1581
01:16:41,840 --> 01:16:44,559
Speaker 13: the play caller and he works with the linebackers and

1582
01:16:44,640 --> 01:16:47,680
Speaker 13: he's pretty close to a level of defensive coordinator. Now,

1583
01:16:47,720 --> 01:16:50,400
Speaker 13: they also have Gerrod Mayo, who is someone they view

1584
01:16:50,600 --> 01:16:53,559
Speaker 13: very highly, was someone who is going to be getting

1585
01:16:53,600 --> 01:16:55,639
Speaker 13: interviews for head coaching jobs this year, and the Craft

1586
01:16:55,640 --> 01:16:57,960
Speaker 13: stepped in and gave him a new contract.

1587
01:16:57,520 --> 01:16:59,679
Speaker 5: In a pay raise and said we're keeping you around here.

1588
01:17:00,120 --> 01:17:02,640
Speaker 13: And I think they very much view Girod Mayo as

1589
01:17:02,680 --> 01:17:06,040
Speaker 13: a potential coach in waiting as the head coach, but

1590
01:17:06,280 --> 01:17:08,880
Speaker 13: they still allow Steve Belichick to call the defensive plays.

1591
01:17:08,960 --> 01:17:12,720
Speaker 13: Drod Mayo is still obviously heavily involved. There's definitely the

1592
01:17:12,760 --> 01:17:15,160
Speaker 13: potential for some awkwardness there, but I think they do

1593
01:17:15,280 --> 01:17:17,879
Speaker 13: a pretty good job of diffusing it. And then ultimately

1594
01:17:17,920 --> 01:17:20,439
Speaker 13: Big Papa Bill Belichick is the one really in charge.

1595
01:17:20,439 --> 01:17:23,360
Speaker 13: It's his defense and frankly, it's his offense. You've heard

1596
01:17:23,360 --> 01:17:25,920
Speaker 13: stories over the years, even when it was Charlie Weiss

1597
01:17:25,920 --> 01:17:28,200
Speaker 13: and Josh McDaniels, like Bill Belichick is still kind of

1598
01:17:28,240 --> 01:17:31,360
Speaker 13: making the decisions on offense. Hey, let's run a screen here,

1599
01:17:31,400 --> 01:17:33,760
Speaker 13: and let's make sure we set this up with play action.

1600
01:17:33,960 --> 01:17:38,519
Speaker 13: Like he's in charge, and it's definitely still Bill Belichick's defense,

1601
01:17:38,560 --> 01:17:40,560
Speaker 13: but his son is really the one who's kind of

1602
01:17:40,560 --> 01:17:41,880
Speaker 13: taken over the play calling in a lot of the

1603
01:17:41,960 --> 01:17:42,639
Speaker 13: leadership roles.

1604
01:17:42,720 --> 01:17:45,800
Speaker 2: Right looking at Miami, they suffer an injury yesterday, a

1605
01:17:45,800 --> 01:17:50,280
Speaker 2: big one in Jalen Ramsey, and we've seen differing reports

1606
01:17:50,360 --> 01:17:54,519
Speaker 2: on the prognosis timetable. You know, he's gonna miss regular

1607
01:17:54,600 --> 01:17:57,599
Speaker 2: season games. That seems to be the only guarantee. How

1608
01:17:57,680 --> 01:18:00,680
Speaker 2: many is the question. Whether he's coming back in November,

1609
01:18:00,760 --> 01:18:03,120
Speaker 2: whether he's coming back in December. But that is a

1610
01:18:03,240 --> 01:18:06,479
Speaker 2: huge loss for a secondary that while they have two

1611
01:18:06,520 --> 01:18:08,360
Speaker 2: nice safeties in the middle of the field. I won't

1612
01:18:08,360 --> 01:18:11,839
Speaker 2: debate that for a second. Xavian Howard battled through injury

1613
01:18:11,880 --> 01:18:14,680
Speaker 2: all last season. He's getting up there in years and

1614
01:18:14,760 --> 01:18:16,920
Speaker 2: now Ramsey is probably not going to be a part

1615
01:18:16,920 --> 01:18:20,000
Speaker 2: of the equation, and the guys behind them are far

1616
01:18:20,040 --> 01:18:22,919
Speaker 2: from proven names in this league. As far as cover players,

1617
01:18:23,200 --> 01:18:26,000
Speaker 2: I know Vic Fangio sometimes plays. They keep it all

1618
01:18:26,000 --> 01:18:28,880
Speaker 2: in front of his style, but that's a loss for

1619
01:18:28,920 --> 01:18:30,799
Speaker 2: them after making a pretty sizable investment.

1620
01:18:30,880 --> 01:18:32,760
Speaker 13: Yeah, they're gonna have to rely on that kind of

1621
01:18:32,840 --> 01:18:36,760
Speaker 13: zone coverage and having cornerbacks that are kind of interchangeable,

1622
01:18:36,800 --> 01:18:38,760
Speaker 13: and hey, just play deep and don't let anything get

1623
01:18:38,760 --> 01:18:41,320
Speaker 13: behind you. And man NFL training camp is so tough

1624
01:18:41,320 --> 01:18:43,599
Speaker 13: because it's such an exciting time of year and then

1625
01:18:43,640 --> 01:18:45,920
Speaker 13: all the news it's like, you know, Jalen Ramsey goes

1626
01:18:45,920 --> 01:18:47,960
Speaker 13: down and Joe Burrow pulls up with a calf injury,

1627
01:18:47,960 --> 01:18:50,320
Speaker 13: and it's like all bad news. Nothing good can happen

1628
01:18:50,520 --> 01:18:52,559
Speaker 13: in training game. You just hold your breath and hope

1629
01:18:52,560 --> 01:18:54,160
Speaker 13: your guys make it out healthies.

1630
01:18:54,160 --> 01:18:56,120
Speaker 5: But yeah, obviously a big loss.

1631
01:18:56,439 --> 01:19:00,000
Speaker 13: The vic Fango defense loves the big, physical press corner

1632
01:19:00,040 --> 01:19:02,160
Speaker 13: on the outside that can also bail out and play.

1633
01:19:01,960 --> 01:19:02,559
Speaker 5: The cover three.

1634
01:19:02,600 --> 01:19:05,360
Speaker 13: And you know, Ramsey's been a pretty durable player over

1635
01:19:05,400 --> 01:19:07,799
Speaker 13: I think he's played at least fifteen games and almost

1636
01:19:08,040 --> 01:19:09,240
Speaker 13: in all about one of his seasons.

1637
01:19:09,240 --> 01:19:11,559
Speaker 5: Then booms, second day camp, right, he goes down.

1638
01:19:11,600 --> 01:19:13,840
Speaker 13: So a tough loss for them, But Fanjio is such

1639
01:19:13,840 --> 01:19:16,000
Speaker 13: a good coach, and it's an injury that happened so

1640
01:19:16,120 --> 01:19:18,559
Speaker 13: early in training camp that they definitely have enough time

1641
01:19:18,600 --> 01:19:20,880
Speaker 13: to kind of figure out what their next step is

1642
01:19:20,920 --> 01:19:21,360
Speaker 13: gonna be.

1643
01:19:21,439 --> 01:19:24,040
Speaker 5: But the Dolphins are gonna be dangerous.

1644
01:19:23,680 --> 01:19:26,280
Speaker 13: With having an improved defense now, which I think we

1645
01:19:26,320 --> 01:19:30,040
Speaker 13: all expect that defense to be much better if Tua

1646
01:19:30,040 --> 01:19:30,719
Speaker 13: can stay healthy.

1647
01:19:30,760 --> 01:19:31,479
Speaker 2: That team.

1648
01:19:31,760 --> 01:19:33,400
Speaker 13: I think everyone's talking about the Bills and the Jets,

1649
01:19:33,400 --> 01:19:34,559
Speaker 13: but man, watch out for the Dolphins.

1650
01:19:34,680 --> 01:19:36,599
Speaker 1: Right, you said it the last one for me, I'm

1651
01:19:36,600 --> 01:19:38,920
Speaker 1: gonna ask you about the Jets. Aaron Rodgers comes in,

1652
01:19:39,000 --> 01:19:41,639
Speaker 1: plugs in, and the thought is they were so good

1653
01:19:41,680 --> 01:19:45,560
Speaker 1: around their young quarterback who was struggling last year that

1654
01:19:45,640 --> 01:19:48,000
Speaker 1: if you just plug a different guy in, the lights

1655
01:19:48,000 --> 01:19:50,000
Speaker 1: are gonna come on. And certainly to a certain state,

1656
01:19:50,000 --> 01:19:53,800
Speaker 1: you've got to expect that to happen. Will you said it?

1657
01:19:53,840 --> 01:19:55,599
Speaker 1: You're drinking the kool aid. You think the Jets are

1658
01:19:55,640 --> 01:19:58,479
Speaker 1: really gonna be good this year because Aaron Rodgers is

1659
01:19:58,720 --> 01:20:00,280
Speaker 1: just the elixir that's gonna.

1660
01:20:00,360 --> 01:20:03,599
Speaker 13: I really do think it. And and here's the stat that

1661
01:20:03,640 --> 01:20:06,400
Speaker 13: I love. Last year in the NFL, there were forty

1662
01:20:06,400 --> 01:20:09,280
Speaker 13: six quarterbacks that threw a hundred passes. The Jets three

1663
01:20:09,400 --> 01:20:13,519
Speaker 13: quarterbacks ranked forty third, forty fourth, and forty fifth in

1664
01:20:13,600 --> 01:20:16,200
Speaker 13: passer rating. The only Skyler Thompson on the Dolphins was

1665
01:20:16,200 --> 01:20:18,720
Speaker 13: a worse quarterback than the three guys the Jets put

1666
01:20:18,720 --> 01:20:21,439
Speaker 13: out there, and they still won seven games despite that

1667
01:20:21,520 --> 01:20:24,760
Speaker 13: horrible quarterback. Now they've Aaron Rodgers and they're bringing in

1668
01:20:24,800 --> 01:20:28,240
Speaker 13: his hand picked offensive coordinator, the guy they created the

1669
01:20:28,240 --> 01:20:31,000
Speaker 13: playbook together in twenty twenty, helped him win back to

1670
01:20:31,040 --> 01:20:34,400
Speaker 13: back MVPs. He's got a couple of receivers from Green Bay.

1671
01:20:35,160 --> 01:20:37,760
Speaker 13: I like the setup they have where Aaron Rodgers is

1672
01:20:37,760 --> 01:20:39,639
Speaker 13: the teacher. He's the one who already knows the offense

1673
01:20:39,680 --> 01:20:41,240
Speaker 13: and he just has to get the other guys up

1674
01:20:41,240 --> 01:20:43,280
Speaker 13: to speed, which frankly is what you're doing with an

1675
01:20:43,360 --> 01:20:46,320
Speaker 13: NFL team anyway, pretty much, you know, every year anyway,

1676
01:20:46,520 --> 01:20:48,920
Speaker 13: Whereas like when when Brady went to Tampa. He has

1677
01:20:48,920 --> 01:20:51,599
Speaker 13: to learn Byron Leftwich and Bruce Arians and new coaches

1678
01:20:51,640 --> 01:20:53,720
Speaker 13: that he's never met before. And they've got a kind

1679
01:20:53,760 --> 01:20:56,200
Speaker 13: of Rodgers already has that he's already three steps ahead.

1680
01:20:56,400 --> 01:20:59,800
Speaker 13: He's motivated, he's giving up millions of dollars and they

1681
01:21:00,160 --> 01:21:00,880
Speaker 13: just loaded with talent.

1682
01:21:00,920 --> 01:21:01,840
Speaker 5: I really like their defense.

1683
01:21:01,840 --> 01:21:02,479
Speaker 2: What do you make of that?

1684
01:21:02,560 --> 01:21:04,280
Speaker 1: The fact that he took the big pay cut and

1685
01:21:04,320 --> 01:21:07,080
Speaker 1: said listen and that, and he said it and you

1686
01:21:07,080 --> 01:21:08,439
Speaker 1: can kind of see it on the roll. It's two

1687
01:21:08,520 --> 01:21:11,200
Speaker 1: year window, let's go, and he wants to get one

1688
01:21:11,560 --> 01:21:14,080
Speaker 1: in those two years and gave him the Jet thirty

1689
01:21:14,080 --> 01:21:15,160
Speaker 1: five million dollars.

1690
01:21:14,920 --> 01:21:15,479
Speaker 2: To help do it.

1691
01:21:15,520 --> 01:21:17,680
Speaker 13: Crazy, and it wasn't like he's gonna get on the

1692
01:21:17,680 --> 01:21:19,840
Speaker 13: back end. He literally just gave up thirty five million. Now,

1693
01:21:19,840 --> 01:21:22,200
Speaker 13: he's made plenty in his career. He's not hurting for it,

1694
01:21:22,240 --> 01:21:25,240
Speaker 13: but that is a major. It just to me says

1695
01:21:25,240 --> 01:21:27,479
Speaker 13: how committed he is. You said a two year window.

1696
01:21:27,560 --> 01:21:29,600
Speaker 13: They have all these young guys on rookie contracts, so

1697
01:21:29,640 --> 01:21:31,559
Speaker 13: it's not like the team's gonna blow up if it

1698
01:21:31,560 --> 01:21:34,719
Speaker 13: doesn't work out this year. And you know, I'm probably

1699
01:21:34,840 --> 01:21:36,559
Speaker 13: drinking too much of the kool aid. There are gonna

1700
01:21:36,600 --> 01:21:39,360
Speaker 13: be some issues as everyone gets adjusted to each other,

1701
01:21:39,400 --> 01:21:41,519
Speaker 13: and it's you know, everything's hunky dory now, but what

1702
01:21:41,560 --> 01:21:44,280
Speaker 13: happens when they're two and three, you know, in October

1703
01:21:44,280 --> 01:21:46,400
Speaker 13: and it's not quite going so like, there are gonna

1704
01:21:46,400 --> 01:21:49,519
Speaker 13: be issues. But this is a team. I love their defense.

1705
01:21:49,600 --> 01:21:52,120
Speaker 13: I think it's a really fast, aggressive defense. And I mean,

1706
01:21:52,120 --> 01:21:55,200
Speaker 13: like Garrett Wilson eleven hundred yards last year with those quarterbacks,

1707
01:21:55,240 --> 01:21:58,040
Speaker 13: what's he gonna do with Rogers now? I just think,

1708
01:21:58,520 --> 01:22:00,320
Speaker 13: and that's a team that's been down for soul long.

1709
01:22:00,760 --> 01:22:03,240
Speaker 13: It's to me the AFC East is more exciting with

1710
01:22:03,280 --> 01:22:04,760
Speaker 13: the Jets being a relevant team again.

1711
01:22:05,040 --> 01:22:07,120
Speaker 2: And last note on that, the money he left on

1712
01:22:07,160 --> 01:22:09,280
Speaker 2: the table the Jets may turn around and use on

1713
01:22:09,360 --> 01:22:12,040
Speaker 2: Dalvin Cook. I know the Patriots are also in the

1714
01:22:12,080 --> 01:22:14,160
Speaker 2: mix for Cook, or at least they've kept in contact

1715
01:22:14,200 --> 01:22:18,000
Speaker 2: with him. That could be figured out by the end

1716
01:22:18,040 --> 01:22:21,320
Speaker 2: of the day today. But do you think anybody's got

1717
01:22:21,320 --> 01:22:24,200
Speaker 2: a lead time on that In terms of somebody being

1718
01:22:24,200 --> 01:22:25,200
Speaker 2: a nose ahead of the other.

1719
01:22:25,280 --> 01:22:27,680
Speaker 13: I believe Dalvin Cook came out this morning and said

1720
01:22:27,680 --> 01:22:29,519
Speaker 13: he's probably gonna sign with the Jets. Which to me

1721
01:22:29,560 --> 01:22:31,680
Speaker 13: always made a lot more sense. He'll be lucky if

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01:22:31,680 --> 01:22:33,640
Speaker 13: he can get some of that Aaron Rodgers that was

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01:22:33,720 --> 01:22:36,200
Speaker 13: left on the table. But I don't think the Patriots

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01:22:36,200 --> 01:22:40,440
Speaker 13: ever made sense because for him guy right, Yeah, Stevenson's

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01:22:40,479 --> 01:22:42,320
Speaker 13: the guy, and so you're just looking for a backup,

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01:22:42,680 --> 01:22:45,280
Speaker 13: rotational guy. And Dalvin Cook I think he's looking for

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01:22:45,720 --> 01:22:46,680
Speaker 13: a bigger role than that.

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01:22:46,720 --> 01:22:47,880
Speaker 2: So the Jets, I think make a lot.

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01:22:47,920 --> 01:22:50,000
Speaker 1: It's hard to see a big salary there in New England,

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01:22:50,280 --> 01:22:52,439
Speaker 1: you know, to get there, because they don't do it

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01:22:52,479 --> 01:22:55,160
Speaker 1: to begin with, and the Jets do.

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01:22:55,520 --> 01:22:55,840
Speaker 5: Yes.

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01:22:56,680 --> 01:22:59,439
Speaker 2: Thanks for the time, as thoways, that's been Volin from

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01:22:59,439 --> 01:23:01,800
Speaker 2: the Boston joining us. We'll catch up with him a

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01:23:01,800 --> 01:23:04,040
Speaker 2: little bit later on the season, especially when the Patriots

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01:23:04,040 --> 01:23:05,920
Speaker 2: come up on the schedule. But for now we'll take

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01:23:05,920 --> 01:23:07,640
Speaker 2: a break here on One Bill's Live presented by to

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01:23:07,640 --> 01:23:20,840
Speaker 2: a Lot of Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio. Mark your

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01:23:20,960 --> 01:23:24,639
Speaker 2: calendars because Kids' Day is back. On Saturday, August twelfth,

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01:23:24,680 --> 01:23:27,880
Speaker 2: the Buffalo Bills will welcome the Indianapolis Colts for their

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01:23:28,040 --> 01:23:32,639
Speaker 2: lone home preseason matchup at one pm. Kids Day presented

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01:23:32,640 --> 01:23:35,599
Speaker 2: by Fisher Price. Perfect time to enjoy a Bill's game

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01:23:35,640 --> 01:23:37,479
Speaker 2: at the Whole Family starting at nine AM, and the

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01:23:37,479 --> 01:23:39,720
Speaker 2: bus and limo a lot at high Mark Stadium. The

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01:23:39,800 --> 01:23:44,120
Speaker 2: festivities kick off with a Junior Tailgate starting at nine

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01:23:44,400 --> 01:23:47,040
Speaker 2: which we'll have games, activities, and giveaways along with a

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01:23:47,120 --> 01:23:52,240
Speaker 2: dance party hosted by d J. Milk. So be sure

1748
01:23:52,240 --> 01:23:54,800
Speaker 2: to check that out. Get out to that first game

1749
01:23:54,880 --> 01:23:59,160
Speaker 2: and only preseason game, Kids Day, August twelfth against the Colts,

1750
01:23:59,240 --> 01:24:04,360
Speaker 2: kickoff at one p m. We've got to wrap things

1751
01:24:04,439 --> 01:24:08,080
Speaker 2: up on the mail bag here Steve, and asking a

1752
01:24:08,200 --> 01:24:11,320
Speaker 2: question is Jack who says why would they already move

1753
01:24:11,360 --> 01:24:14,479
Speaker 2: Dorrian Williams to will linebacker? Camp isn't even four days old,

1754
01:24:14,520 --> 01:24:16,240
Speaker 2: and it seems they've ruled him out at Mike saw

1755
01:24:16,280 --> 01:24:18,640
Speaker 2: him in college. He was a tackling machine and a

1756
01:24:18,680 --> 01:24:21,800
Speaker 2: key to two lanes defense. Both he and Inspector, who

1757
01:24:21,840 --> 01:24:25,280
Speaker 2: coach hasn't mentioned, seemed better suited to middle linebacker than

1758
01:24:25,320 --> 01:24:30,320
Speaker 2: the smallest Terrell Bernard. First thing I'm gonna say is

1759
01:24:30,360 --> 01:24:33,920
Speaker 2: Dorian Williams is not that much bigger than Terrell Bernard, Right,

1760
01:24:34,120 --> 01:24:34,840
Speaker 2: that's number one.

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01:24:35,320 --> 01:24:40,880
Speaker 1: He's significantly smaller than Spector. And this isn't It isn't

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01:24:40,920 --> 01:24:44,000
Speaker 1: just three days into training camp. It's after weeks of

1763
01:24:44,280 --> 01:24:48,360
Speaker 1: OTAs and in a mini camp and now three days

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01:24:48,479 --> 01:24:50,080
Speaker 1: of training camp.

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01:24:51,000 --> 01:24:52,880
Speaker 2: This decision was made. I think before they even got

1766
01:24:52,920 --> 01:24:56,360
Speaker 2: to camp, right, maybe first day he's not, maybe, and

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01:24:56,400 --> 01:24:57,000
Speaker 2: then he might.

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01:24:58,840 --> 01:25:00,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe maybe.

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01:25:00,920 --> 01:25:03,519
Speaker 2: I think that decision was made at the close of

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01:25:03,560 --> 01:25:07,120
Speaker 2: mini camp. I think three days. I think listen.

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01:25:07,200 --> 01:25:09,360
Speaker 1: I think they're doing what they think they can to

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01:25:09,400 --> 01:25:11,920
Speaker 1: give him the best chance to make the roster. That's

1773
01:25:11,920 --> 01:25:14,519
Speaker 1: what the that's part of what coaching is. You want

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01:25:14,520 --> 01:25:15,920
Speaker 1: to give your guys a chance to make the right

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01:25:16,000 --> 01:25:17,240
Speaker 1: let him do what they do best, and then if

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01:25:17,280 --> 01:25:19,280
Speaker 1: he can make a role for himself and you can

1777
01:25:19,360 --> 01:25:22,400
Speaker 1: keep him, he's more valuable in other guys. You do that,

1778
01:25:22,880 --> 01:25:24,080
Speaker 1: but that's what their job is.

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01:25:24,200 --> 01:25:27,479
Speaker 2: And we even heard Brandon Bean say that Dorian is

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01:25:27,520 --> 01:25:30,000
Speaker 2: going to have a role on special teams and probably

1781
01:25:30,040 --> 01:25:34,960
Speaker 2: a pretty prominent one. So that's kind of where that sits.

1782
01:25:35,760 --> 01:25:39,719
Speaker 2: We turn our attention now, though, steve to one Jalen Ramsey.

1783
01:25:39,760 --> 01:25:44,479
Speaker 2: There is an update on his status as far as

1784
01:25:44,520 --> 01:25:49,320
Speaker 2: his surgery. Today. NFL Networks Ian Rappaport says Dolphins corner

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01:25:49,400 --> 01:25:53,759
Speaker 2: Jalen Ramsey did, in fact undergo a full moniscous repair

1786
01:25:53,840 --> 01:25:58,600
Speaker 2: procedure this morning. That is the more severe of the procedures.

1787
01:25:58,840 --> 01:26:00,800
Speaker 2: If he had just had a little piece of his

1788
01:26:00,880 --> 01:26:03,920
Speaker 2: meniscus tear away, that can usually just snip that and

1789
01:26:03,960 --> 01:26:06,600
Speaker 2: get you back on the field faster. That was not

1790
01:26:06,760 --> 01:26:10,240
Speaker 2: the case. Full moniscus repair means he is not going

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01:26:10,280 --> 01:26:13,960
Speaker 2: to be back in the Dolphins lineup until December at

1792
01:26:13,960 --> 01:26:19,760
Speaker 2: the earliest. That is a crushing blow to Miami's secondary. Yeah,

1793
01:26:19,880 --> 01:26:21,200
Speaker 2: it's too bad for Jalen too.

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01:26:21,240 --> 01:26:23,720
Speaker 1: I mean that coming over in the trade from LA

1795
01:26:23,840 --> 01:26:26,639
Speaker 1: gives him a chance to restart his career again after

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01:26:26,640 --> 01:26:29,400
Speaker 1: starting out in Jacksonville, going to LA, winning a championship,

1797
01:26:30,120 --> 01:26:32,360
Speaker 1: becoming one of those kind of one of the elder statesmen.

1798
01:26:32,400 --> 01:26:33,720
Speaker 1: At this point. It is Grieven though he's not a

1799
01:26:33,720 --> 01:26:38,840
Speaker 1: really old guy, and coming over and you just and

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01:26:38,920 --> 01:26:41,680
Speaker 1: I know Bills fans don't have any love loss for Jalen, right.

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01:26:41,640 --> 01:26:43,599
Speaker 2: He is the guy they called Josh Allen trash, right.

1802
01:26:44,200 --> 01:26:46,320
Speaker 1: But I will say this, and I talked to some

1803
01:26:46,360 --> 01:26:50,960
Speaker 1: guys last night about this. He's respected around the league.

1804
01:26:51,000 --> 01:26:53,280
Speaker 1: He doesn't when he's on the field, and he doesn't

1805
01:26:53,320 --> 01:26:56,599
Speaker 1: take himself all that seriously. I remember when the Bills

1806
01:26:56,600 --> 01:27:00,200
Speaker 1: were lumping him up in Week one last year, they

1807
01:27:00,200 --> 01:27:02,479
Speaker 1: were chirping back and forth good naturedly as well. So

1808
01:27:02,960 --> 01:27:04,400
Speaker 1: you feel bad for a guy. You never want to

1809
01:27:04,400 --> 01:27:08,880
Speaker 1: see any guy buddy go down like that. It's not

1810
01:27:09,200 --> 01:27:11,320
Speaker 1: a catastrophic injury, but it's one that's gonna take a

1811
01:27:11,360 --> 01:27:14,000
Speaker 1: lot of time to heal from. And I feel bad

1812
01:27:14,000 --> 01:27:16,320
Speaker 1: for every place like Naheim Hind same thing, you know.

1813
01:27:16,360 --> 01:27:20,679
Speaker 1: He just it stinks to have good players and stars

1814
01:27:20,760 --> 01:27:21,759
Speaker 1: and not be able to play.

1815
01:27:22,320 --> 01:27:24,800
Speaker 2: Taking a look quickly at the cornerback depth chart for

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01:27:24,840 --> 01:27:27,680
Speaker 2: the Dolphins, it's Xavier Howard and Jayalen Ramsey, who were

1817
01:27:27,680 --> 01:27:30,320
Speaker 2: projected to be the two starters for them on the outside,

1818
01:27:30,640 --> 01:27:34,720
Speaker 2: second round pick Cam Smith Kean Crossen who played for

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01:27:34,760 --> 01:27:39,320
Speaker 2: them last year. And then you have Noah igbinoghan A,

1820
01:27:39,320 --> 01:27:43,000
Speaker 2: a failed first round draft choice from twenty twenty. And

1821
01:27:43,040 --> 01:27:46,120
Speaker 2: you also have Justin Bethel, who is on the back

1822
01:27:46,160 --> 01:27:48,080
Speaker 2: side of his career and might be better suited to

1823
01:27:48,080 --> 01:27:51,360
Speaker 2: play the safety position than corner. I distinctly remember him

1824
01:27:51,720 --> 01:27:54,320
Speaker 2: getting his doors blown off for a touchdown up in

1825
01:27:54,360 --> 01:27:58,720
Speaker 2: Buffalo in last year's regular season matchup. And then it's

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01:27:58,760 --> 01:28:02,880
Speaker 2: just a couple of camp bodies after that. Now, if

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01:28:02,920 --> 01:28:05,200
Speaker 2: Cam Smith, their second round pick, can really come on,

1828
01:28:05,800 --> 01:28:08,120
Speaker 2: well maybe he can jump into the starting lineup. Otherwise

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01:28:08,160 --> 01:28:11,559
Speaker 2: it's gonna be key on Crossing, who is just good

1830
01:28:11,640 --> 01:28:13,160
Speaker 2: enough to get you by kind of corner.

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01:28:13,520 --> 01:28:15,360
Speaker 1: Well, at least the last time we saw him he was.

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01:28:15,439 --> 01:28:17,320
Speaker 1: I mean, there's always a chance that more reps will

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01:28:17,360 --> 01:28:20,559
Speaker 1: make him better. But yeah, I'm losing the guy at

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01:28:20,560 --> 01:28:23,240
Speaker 1: the top of your rotation. I mean, at the Bills

1835
01:28:23,280 --> 01:28:26,000
Speaker 1: last year and Tredavius White went through that, you're really struggling.

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01:28:26,040 --> 01:28:30,240
Speaker 1: So they're gonna they'll jump through some hoops. But you know,

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01:28:30,280 --> 01:28:32,439
Speaker 1: this Dolphins defense is still gonna be pretty salty.

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01:28:32,520 --> 01:28:34,400
Speaker 2: They will be a pretty good defense. I don't debate

1839
01:28:34,439 --> 01:28:37,200
Speaker 2: that for a second. And they've got enough run up

1840
01:28:37,200 --> 01:28:39,040
Speaker 2: time to the regular season to kind of get that

1841
01:28:39,080 --> 01:28:43,960
Speaker 2: position settled and squared away. With this happening so early

1842
01:28:44,360 --> 01:28:47,439
Speaker 2: in training camp, that is it for us in week

1843
01:28:47,520 --> 01:28:50,000
Speaker 2: one of Bill's training camp here at Saint John Fisher,

1844
01:28:50,040 --> 01:28:53,080
Speaker 2: But Steve and I will be back here on Monday

1845
01:28:53,360 --> 01:28:56,400
Speaker 2: for continuing coverage. First padded practice is Sunday. We'll give

1846
01:28:56,400 --> 01:28:58,639
Speaker 2: you updates on all of that along with Monday session

1847
01:28:58,960 --> 01:28:59,759
Speaker 2: have a great weekend,