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Speaker 1: Welcome into the Lounge, presented by DraftKings. The Ravens scored

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Speaker 1: a twenty to ten win in Los Angeles on Sunday

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Speaker 1: Night Football. It's a size them up Monday at twelve

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Speaker 1: twenty five day, let's go. I'm here with Cassie Cherigo.

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Speaker 1: Garrett is out in LA probably getting on the bus,

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Speaker 1: getting ready to board the plane right now. So Cassie

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Speaker 1: stepping in for him to give the instant reaction and

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Speaker 1: Cassie just a really big win for the Ravens to

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Speaker 1: stay atop the AFC moved to nine and three and

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Speaker 1: headed into the bie Definitely good vibes for sure.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was starting to get a little worried that

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Speaker 2: I might be the bad luck charm here on the

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Speaker 2: lounge since the last time I joined you here was

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Speaker 2: a dark evening. But the Ravens were able to finish

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Speaker 2: out the game there put the icing on the cake.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, good energy heading into the bye. We love

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Speaker 2: a bye week when we can marry and Nate on

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Speaker 2: a win and not have to talk about anything negative.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. And I think you know, like you said,

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Speaker 1: closing it out was was really the kind of takeaway

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Speaker 1: from this game, you know, we've we've been in this

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Speaker 1: position before. Ravens go into the fourth quarter with a

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Speaker 1: thirteen point lead and it gets tight from there, right,

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Speaker 1: Chargers trim it to three justin Tucker misses a field goal.

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Speaker 1: You're like, what the hell is happening? What kind of

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Speaker 1: other world are we in right now? This can't be happening.

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Speaker 1: Chargers have the ball back with less than with about

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Speaker 1: three minutes left, only trailing by three, and it's who

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Speaker 1: edge your seat time sweating. They got the ball to

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Speaker 1: the fifty yard line first and ten from the fifty

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Speaker 1: and the Ravens defense just stons them and then come

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Speaker 1: back the other way. Zay finishes it with the long

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Speaker 1: rushing touchdown. So you know, after the Ravens lost three

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Speaker 1: games in heartbreaking fashion fourth quarter leads this season, to

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Speaker 1: see this one, it was it was on the platter

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Speaker 1: for heartbreak. My heart was on the platter, right and

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Speaker 1: to see him finish it was I think a really

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Speaker 1: big deal.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and you mentioned Zay there.

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Speaker 2: I mean, what a time for him to have his

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Speaker 2: first two touchdown game. You know, he's We've seen him

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Speaker 2: spark at various points this season, but with the Ravens

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Speaker 2: not having Mark Andrews for the first time, and for

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Speaker 2: him to be able to step up that way, especially

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Speaker 2: in a key moment like that, to really ice the

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Speaker 2: game was huge.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely. As much as I want to talk about

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Speaker 1: Zay and his touchdowns, we first have to talk about

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Speaker 1: his touchdown celebration. Oh yes, all right, So Cassie the

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Speaker 1: first one. Give me what what's your grade on the

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Speaker 1: flower bouquet toss? What's the grade on?

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Speaker 2: Oh see, I've been campaigning that we needed a guy

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Speaker 2: to bring the good group celebrations, So I'm here for it.

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Speaker 2: I love a good pun. So like the playoff the name,

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Speaker 2: that's ten out of ten for me. If he could

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Speaker 2: come up with something having to do with his last

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Speaker 2: name every time, I would be happy.

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Speaker 1: Right, So flashback to London. His first career touchdown. He

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Speaker 1: does the flower girl kind of like right, yeah, tossing

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Speaker 1: the flower pedals exactly. You know, the one in London

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Speaker 1: went so well, He's like, I'm gonna double down on that.

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Speaker 1: Uh So he doesn't do k toss and I'll tell

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Speaker 1: you in concept, I'm going ten out of ten. In execution,

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Speaker 1: was kind of half baked. A the toss went to

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Speaker 1: John Simpson and didn't go to Bateman. John Simpson hands

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Speaker 1: it to Baitman, but then bait gets down on one

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Speaker 1: knee and like proposes seemingly yeah that see that part

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Speaker 1: has already happened. Now you know, where's the wedding at

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: You can't fault Z for his teammates lack of buy

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Speaker 2: in to the celebration.

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Speaker 1: Well, but it's his celebration. I feel like he's the

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Speaker 1: bis stroke. He right, like, if you're going to pre

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Speaker 1: plan this, you got to go from A to Z.

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Speaker 1: It was half baked for me. Good concept, but it

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Speaker 1: just didn't the execution and the whole plan wasn't all

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Speaker 2: I would have liked to see some of like the

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Speaker 2: O linemen kind of like jostling for the bouquet too,

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Speaker 2: you know, like throwing some elbows like you actually see

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Speaker 2: at a wedding, you know, like I want the you

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Speaker 2: know we want that. I didn't.

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Speaker 3: I didn't see that.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, you're absolutely right, that would have been See

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Speaker 1: this is why you can need to be orchestrated. I

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Speaker 1: think I think so other other duties. Has a sign right,

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Speaker 1: just added to your title. Then the next one, zay

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Speaker 1: you know, ice is the game basically, and then the

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Speaker 1: p K the penalty kick soccer shootout scores a goal

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Speaker 1: give that one?

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Speaker 3: I liked it.

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Speaker 2: I'll give it like a I think the execution was

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Speaker 2: better there. They clearly knew that was the plan, so

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Speaker 2: he gets points to that. It's less clever in my opinion,

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Speaker 2: but you know, coming out, I think if had he

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Speaker 2: done that in London, right, that's my thing.

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Speaker 1: Yes, agreed, completely agree, that would have been perfect. And

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Speaker 1: see if we just flipped the man. We're so close, right,

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Speaker 1: this is like this is that's why it's week twelve, right,

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Speaker 1: you got to keep getting better better every day. We're

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Speaker 1: so close, but we're just not quite there.

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Speaker 2: And any could have done any could have done the

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Speaker 2: two flowers wedding themed ones in the same game.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's all coming together exactly.

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Speaker 1: Man, so close anyway, all right, all right, now we

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Speaker 1: got the most important topic out of the way. We

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Speaker 1: should We should probably talk about this defense because it

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Speaker 1: was filthy. Four turnovers five if you count the turnover

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Speaker 1: a huge stop by the defense stopping them on fourth

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Speaker 1: what else do you say about this defense, Cassie.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Coach Harball said it after the game. Mike

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Speaker 2: McDonald called an excellent game. He you know, he's like,

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Speaker 2: you can't call anything much better than that, And I

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Speaker 3: And I heard it too on the broadcast.

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Speaker 2: You know, Jason Garrett was comparing this Raven's defense to

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Speaker 2: the two thousand defense, and even coach Harbaugh said after

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Speaker 2: just from the linebackers to the cover, like every every

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Speaker 2: just really hard to say that any other team has

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Speaker 2: a better defense in the League, in my opinion.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know that you're playing well with the broadcasters

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Speaker 1: are bringing up the two thousand three. Yeah, right, that's

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Speaker 1: a good sign. And whenever you whenever, like I've brought

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Speaker 1: be like, I'm not saying that they're they're exactly They're

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Speaker 1: they're that good bus, you know. And the funny thing

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Speaker 1: but they have the same DNA was his comment. And

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Speaker 1: then literally like two seconds later, that's when Jadevion Clowney

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Speaker 1: and I thought that it was a really energetic effort

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Speaker 1: so hard to shoot ball? Yeah, yeah, right, I mean

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Speaker 1: it was that kind of game, like they were hitting.

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Speaker 1: Jason Garrett was like, you don't want to catch a

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Speaker 1: ball over the middle on this Ravens defense, Like you

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Speaker 1: better watch out because they're coming to get you totally.

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Speaker 1: And you saw that time and time again.

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Speaker 2: And on a night when like the offense wasn't operating

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Speaker 2: at the level they would like to. You know, Kyle

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Speaker 2: looked at all of them and was like, if they

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Speaker 3: And so that's they.

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Speaker 2: Really felt like they had the ability to step up

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Speaker 3: I mean they did, and you're.

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Speaker 2: Forcing fumbles and you're getting the charters offense off the

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Speaker 1: Score, right, right, Yeah, And it was a tough task,

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Speaker 1: not just because they're going against a talented offense, which

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Speaker 1: they are. Justin Herbert's one of the best quarterbacks, most

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Speaker 1: a monster, you know, you have to deal with Austin Eckler.

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Speaker 1: They just have a lot of playmakers. You're dealing with that,

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Speaker 1: pretty heavy weight because of the offensive struggles for the

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Speaker 1: hold Justin Herbert throws the ball forty four times and

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Speaker 1: only passes for two hundred and seventeen yards, Like, what

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Speaker 1: what you know? That doesn't happen? Austin Eckler runs for

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Speaker 1: thirty two yards? What I mean to me? This was

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Speaker 1: it wasn't as on the scoreboard. It doesn't look as

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Speaker 1: this maybe was one of the one of the most

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Speaker 1: back from that, we'll talk about the offense and maybe

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Speaker 1: what some of the issues were with the offense tonight

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