1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Herd podcast. Be sure to 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: catch us live every weekday on Fox Sports Radio in 3 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 1: noon to three eastern nine am to noon Pacific. Find 4 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:12,879 Speaker 1: your local station for The Herd at Foxsports Radio dot com, 5 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 1: or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app 6 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:18,440 Speaker 1: by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR. 7 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 2: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. 8 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:37,519 Speaker 3: It's a Herd here Fox Sports Radio. LeVar Arrington Jonas 9 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 3: Knox in for Colin. You can hear us weekday morning 10 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 3: six am Eastern time, three o'clock Pacific here on many 11 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:50,840 Speaker 3: of these Fox Sports Radio affiliates normally alongside Brady Quinn. 12 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 3: Brady Quinn is not with us here, so when LeVar 13 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:57,279 Speaker 3: and I fill in and it's just him and I 14 00:00:57,320 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 3: do in the show, we'd like to refer to ourselves 15 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 3: as Black and Drack. 16 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:05,120 Speaker 4: Don't get nervous. 17 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 3: I don't get nervous because it's because I'm It's because 18 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 3: I'm pale and I'm dark. So welcome in do the 19 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:18,959 Speaker 3: debut edition of Black and Drack here in for Calling 20 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 3: and company on the Herd. 21 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:25,320 Speaker 4: What up sticks? Good morning, well, good afternoon. To say 22 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:28,120 Speaker 4: good good noon to some people. Yeah, it's very interesting 23 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:30,320 Speaker 4: Good morning to you, Good morning to everyone out here. 24 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:33,199 Speaker 4: It is very interesting seeing the light of day, seeing 25 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 4: actual human beings walking by the studio, seeing energy running 26 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 4: through your body because you're fully awake. I don't even 27 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:43,320 Speaker 4: need this coffee, It's just a prop for certain I've 28 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 4: already had two cups before I left the house and sleep. 29 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 3: So first off, want to say congratulations Clayton Kershaw three 30 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 3: thousand strikeouts. It was quite the scene at Dodger Stadium. Yeah, 31 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 3: no kidding, a lot of a lot of throwing, lots 32 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 3: of scenes last night at Dodger Stadium. Clayton Kershaw gets 33 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 3: strikeout three thousand against the White Sox. The Dodgers were trailing. 34 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 3: He did not look great, probably probably the worst he's 35 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 3: looked since he's come back from the injury and the 36 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 3: rehab and all that. But nonetheless, it was about the 37 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 3: moment in the career of Clayton Kershaw. He gets strikeout 38 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 3: number three thousand and then they go on to walk 39 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 3: it off in the ninth because Freddie Freeman does it again. 40 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 3: So it was quite the scene there for the La 41 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 3: Dodgers at Dodger Stadium. Dodger fans were thrilled. Now from 42 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 3: one fan base and one organization that is legitimate championship 43 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 3: contenders and defending world champions to another team in town 44 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 3: that is not. Oh jeez, ladies and gentlemen to Los 45 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:57,679 Speaker 3: Angeles Lakers. Oh yeah, take your pick. Yeah, hey, talk 46 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 3: about different balls in the Which one you want to catch? 47 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 2: Man? 48 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 4: There's still some up in the air. You chose to 49 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 4: catch the Lakers on. 50 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 3: That you want to talk about a wild turn of events. 51 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 3: It's like the movie when Steven Sagal was in a 52 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 3: coma and he wakes up after eight years and he's like, 53 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 3: what the hell happened? 54 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 4: How did everything change? 55 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 3: I woke up this morning and all of a sudden, 56 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 3: I like rubbed my eyes and I'm looking around, going, oh, 57 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 3: so DeAndre Ayden's the lynchpin to a championship contender. Okay, 58 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 3: I had no idea. This is news to me, but 59 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 3: apparently he is. 60 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 4: I'm in on that, DeAndre Aiden, Yeah, I'm in on that. 61 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 3: Which of the forty games, or better yet, which of 62 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 3: the forty two games he missed last year was your favorite? 63 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 4: Because I don't know. I kind of like the. 64 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 3: This whole thing is bananas came out bananas, But apparently 65 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 3: that stuff is like, you. 66 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 4: Can't measure the amount of games missed anymore. And they 67 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 4: NBA that the idea of a disgruntal player, an unhappy organization, 68 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 4: the politics that play a part in missing games as 69 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 4: a pro NBA player is very real. So I don't 70 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:18,479 Speaker 4: look at the amount of games that he missed last 71 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 4: year and say he can't be the guy that we've 72 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:25,279 Speaker 4: seen him be when he was in Phoenix. I say, 73 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 4: I look at a guy that was in a situation 74 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 4: that didn't work out for him and didn't work out 75 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:33,600 Speaker 4: for the organization, and now he's going somewhere else, and 76 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 4: that's probably why you didn't see a lot of him 77 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 4: this past season. 78 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 3: And the problem I have with this is that this 79 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 3: is the third stop now for DeAndre Aiden. He was 80 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 3: in Phoenix, he goes to Portland. Now he's with the Lakers, 81 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 3: and a lot of people don't like Portland. Though, Oh 82 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 3: I listen, I you know what I mean, Like, I'm 83 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 3: not going to hold Portland against Sorry Portland, but I'm 84 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:56,160 Speaker 3: just not going to hold Portland against Aiden. 85 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 4: I'm not. 86 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 3: Now. The reason why I would say that there should 87 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 3: be cause for concern is that there was reported issues 88 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:08,720 Speaker 3: in Phoenix you know, work ethleic, tardiness, all the things 89 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 3: that come along with it. 90 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 4: Attitude. 91 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 3: Are you talking about Luca? Are you talking about DeAndre? 92 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 3: Talking about DeAndre? Oh, okay, Luca's already been fat chiamed enough. 93 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 3: We're not gonna go okay. 94 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 4: I mean, I was just making sure that we understood 95 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 4: that maybe the Lakers are feeling like they're well versed 96 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 4: in those type of guys. 97 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:29,160 Speaker 3: Nico Harrison was like Joe Clark, Joe Clark in the 98 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 3: movie talking to that kid who's overweight, some slovenly sloppy Moore. 99 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 4: Doing jump. 100 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:39,279 Speaker 2: Smoke crack. 101 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 3: Don't Nico Harrison jump, challenging Luca to jump off the building? 102 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:49,679 Speaker 2: You want to jump? 103 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 4: No, no, I want to play for the Lakers. I'm sorry, 104 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 4: I want to play for the Lakers. I don't want 105 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:57,840 Speaker 4: to do it anymore. 106 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:05,480 Speaker 3: So Nico Harrison was busy fat shaming Luca. DeAndre Ayton 107 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:08,279 Speaker 3: was in Portland, and according to it's not fat he 108 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:09,160 Speaker 3: does don't work hard. 109 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 4: I guess, don't you thank you? 110 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 3: That was a Nico Harrison live on the on the 111 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:19,479 Speaker 3: top of a building, ready to throw Luca. 112 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:22,040 Speaker 4: That is not how Luca's losing the White people, So 113 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:23,599 Speaker 4: it is not what we're insinuating. 114 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:27,160 Speaker 3: So DeAndre Ayton, according to an article from the New 115 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:30,839 Speaker 3: York Times that he there were veterans were kind of 116 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 3: fed up with him. He would show late, he would 117 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 3: miss team planes or be tardy to team planes, just 118 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 3: like the just your typical not really all that invested. 119 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 3: Some people kind of viewed him as a bit of 120 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 3: a clown there, and it did not work, and he 121 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 3: was bought out, and so now he's a member of 122 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 3: the LA Lakers. Now I would say this, it's an upgrade, right, 123 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 3: it is an upgrade at the center position. But it's 124 00:06:56,120 --> 00:07:01,039 Speaker 3: an upgrade much like sushi at a liquor store when 125 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:01,719 Speaker 3: you're hungry. 126 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:03,280 Speaker 4: It's food. 127 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 3: I just don't know if that's the kind of food 128 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 3: you want, or if that's the kind of food that 129 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 3: you would go that's exactly what's going to get me 130 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 3: through the rest of my day. I'm just skeptical. I 131 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 3: still look at this team and I go, they are 132 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 3: at best fourth fifth in the conference, and considering the 133 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 3: upgrade Houston made, what okayse just did You've got Denver 134 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 3: coming back Minnesota you think will take the next step. 135 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 3: I just I don't know. How this does anything different 136 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 3: for the Lakers next year. 137 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 4: I think it does if the leadership quality is there 138 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 4: for DeAndre Aiden and the scenarios that you are mentioning, 139 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 4: I don't. I don't feel as though a can't get 140 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 4: right because those are can't get right actions. If if 141 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 4: you feel as though coming into the scenario you have 142 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 4: a good hold of understanding through you know your conversations 143 00:07:57,400 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 4: with with Aiden, that those are things you can manage. 144 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 4: I honestly believe as a player, when DeAndre Aiden is 145 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 4: playing the game, he can be one of the more 146 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 4: elite bigs in the game. And if you were to 147 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 4: ask anybody who knows basketball and has paid attention to 148 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 4: the Lakers, they've needed a big man. They needed a 149 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 4: legitimate big man. And as we continue down this road 150 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 4: of preparing for post Lebron James era in LA, I 151 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 4: think this is a good move. Now let me add 152 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 4: this to it because I got this from my guy Cuffs, 153 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 4: the legend by the way, some dude show put up Cuffs. 154 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 4: He comes along with us on Saturdays when we do 155 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:45,320 Speaker 4: up on games, and he did call DeAndre Aiden going 156 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 4: to the Lakers, by the way, before it happened in 157 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:51,319 Speaker 4: previous shows, and this is the latest that he's come 158 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 4: up with. And I think that this is pretty spot 159 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 4: on and on par for what could possibly take place 160 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:01,200 Speaker 4: with everybody getting what they want. I think the Lakers 161 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 4: want to move on from Lebron James. I think Lebron 162 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:10,959 Speaker 4: James is okay with moving on from the Lakers if 163 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 4: it serves his purpose, which is one he's trying to 164 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:18,560 Speaker 4: get another championship, or two to try to catch up 165 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:23,560 Speaker 4: with MJ and Kobe, and three to make sure that 166 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 4: his son's career isn't cut short. What would be the 167 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:31,839 Speaker 4: best solution to that, Well, let's talk about it. If 168 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:34,680 Speaker 4: you put all of the elements together and you say, okay, 169 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 4: what makes this work for Lebron James in this scenario, 170 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 4: it would be most likely to go to an organization 171 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:48,840 Speaker 4: that still would approve of having him, would embrace having him, 172 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 4: would support having him, which would lead to possibly him 173 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 4: being able to package that up with bringing his son 174 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 4: with him. There's the possibility of that unless within the 175 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:03,840 Speaker 4: buyout or the leaving of LA they would make sure 176 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 4: they take care of Brownie James in the event that 177 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 4: he were to leave here. Those two elements, right, but 178 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 4: it would also be for him to go to a 179 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 4: place where he a has a chance to win in 180 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 4: the championship, be be with somebody that he's familiar with. 181 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 4: If the New York Knicks hire Brown, right, if they 182 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 4: hire Mike Brown, there is a relationship of respect and 183 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 4: admiration between Lebron James and Mike Brown. They have history together. 184 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 4: They go back to when Lebron James first time in 185 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 4: Cleveland he was with them, they had a ton of 186 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 4: great success. Mike Brown is a very well respected coach. 187 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:44,960 Speaker 4: If he were indeed and in fact the coach that 188 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:47,320 Speaker 4: ended up being named the head coach of the New 189 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 4: York Knickerbockers, is there a possibility as close as that 190 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 4: New York Knicks team is to competing for an NBA title? 191 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:02,680 Speaker 4: Would that be the move Mike Brown falls into place? 192 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:07,320 Speaker 4: Boom first domino falls down? Is Lebron James the next 193 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 4: domino in that? In that series of dominoes to fall? 194 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 4: Does he end up in New York great market? He 195 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:16,679 Speaker 4: goes from one major media market to the other major 196 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 4: the two bohemos, he goes to the other one. And 197 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 4: we know that Lebron James has made a career of 198 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 4: going to organizations that are close to winning championships or 199 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 4: I have already won one. This Knicks team is close 200 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 4: to a championship. It would be a familiar person in Brown. 201 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:38,440 Speaker 4: He would be able to integrate and get in there 202 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 4: in an easy manner, a less stressful manner, and make 203 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 4: a difference for a team that was probably a Lebron 204 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:49,080 Speaker 4: James away from being able to make it at least 205 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 4: to the championship round. Well, it gets him closer for sure, 206 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 4: because the Eastern Conference is wide open. 207 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 3: Well, there you go. It's wide open because of all 208 00:11:56,080 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 3: the injuries. And look, I've said it before on Fox 209 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 3: Sports Radio. I believe Cleveland's in an advantageous spot because 210 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 3: for a team that's running to injury bad luck the 211 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 3: past couple of years, everybody else ran into it this 212 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 3: year and maybe Cleveland just by default becomes the healthiest team. 213 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:18,440 Speaker 3: And if Mike Brown does you know his finalize and 214 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 3: that's the reports we're hearing that he's going to be 215 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:22,960 Speaker 3: the coach of the Knicks. Yeah, if you're Lebron and 216 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 3: this is all about you getting to another NBA finals 217 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 3: to have another shot. The easier path of the East 218 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:31,560 Speaker 3: by far, because in the Western conference, it ain't happening 219 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 3: right now. 220 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:34,840 Speaker 4: Doesn't that bring you back to the conversation. It was 221 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 4: just out there. Everybody was throwing this out there, ring chasing, 222 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 4: ring chasing culture, ring chasing culture. As if Lebron James 223 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:45,200 Speaker 4: was the creator of ring chasing culture. He's not, by 224 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:47,680 Speaker 4: the way. I don't think people should try to downgrade 225 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 4: him that way, but ring chasing culture. If Lebron James 226 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 4: were to leave and to go to a team like 227 00:12:56,160 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 4: the New York Knicks, it's that does this Does this 228 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 4: now begin to be the idea of you couldn't get 229 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:08,440 Speaker 4: it done in Cleveland, so you had to go to Miami. 230 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:11,839 Speaker 4: You eventually got it done in Miami, and then you 231 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 4: go back and then you get it in Cleveland. Then 232 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 4: you can't get it done in Cleveland anymore. So now 233 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:20,720 Speaker 4: you go and build a super team and you are 234 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 4: able to get a bubble, a bubble championship in La 235 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 4: La seems to have run its course. Now if you 236 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:30,320 Speaker 4: go to New York looking at what they got in Brunson, 237 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:32,439 Speaker 4: looking at what they got in if they're going to 238 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 4: keep towns, which you would assume that they're going to 239 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 4: keep Karl Anthony towns, you go join eighteen that actually 240 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 4: is set and built to make a run for the championship. 241 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:50,719 Speaker 4: What does this do to Lebron james legacy, Because, in 242 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 4: all due respect, Lebron James has had to go chase 243 00:13:56,160 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 4: the rings elsewhere. It has never been bring the rings 244 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 4: to him. And when you look at Kobe, they brought 245 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:06,719 Speaker 4: the rings to Kobe. When you look at MJ, they 246 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 4: brought the rings to MJ. They didn't go somewhere else 247 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 4: to go get it done with somebody else's main players 248 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:15,839 Speaker 4: and you integrated and maybe became the main player. They 249 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:18,079 Speaker 4: didn't do that with the Steph Curry didn't do that. 250 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 4: The rings have come to where they are. Lebron James 251 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 4: is widely considered arguably the greatest basketball player of all 252 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 4: time and yet maybe be the maybe the only one 253 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 4: in the category of having to go chase the rings elsewhere. 254 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 3: First, I think it's pretty disrespectful to list off the 255 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 3: accomplishments of Lebron James and not include the nd season title. 256 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 4: Oh that's my bet, that's rude, my bet, my bet, 257 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 4: and enter that Champions of the nd Season tournament. 258 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 3: Now, I bet I've heard from people that the ring 259 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 3: he got in the bubble wasn't actually a ring, it 260 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 3: was a gold COVID mask. Again, I don't know, and 261 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 3: I'm not trying to spend be negative. Yeah, I'm not 262 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 3: trying to spread any sort of negativity out there. But 263 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 3: I just think he is what he is at this point, 264 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 3: and what if I don't think that there's anything that 265 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 3: he could do to either jump above Jordan or move 266 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 3: off anybody else's list. Like you feel about Lebron, how 267 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 3: you feel about him, and if this is all about 268 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 3: I want to go chase another championship, it's going to 269 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 3: come down to him looking at the landscape of the 270 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 3: Western Conference and trying to figure out is that the 271 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 3: best way to do it. Me personally, I don't think 272 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 3: it is. I think there's way too many obstacles in 273 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 3: the way and way too many better teams. I think 274 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 3: if he's going to do it, it's going to be 275 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 3: out East. I just don't know, depending on what they're 276 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 3: going to ask in return. If the Knicks look at 277 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:50,359 Speaker 3: that and go, is it really worth one year potentially 278 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 3: of Lebron and everything that comes along with me? 279 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 4: He took his option, he took his option, and he's 280 00:15:57,480 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 4: getting older. What exactly are you going to ask for 281 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 4: in trying to get a hold of lebron James? And 282 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 4: if that value is so high that it is a 283 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 4: scoff at it and turn and walk away from it, 284 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 4: then why are you getting rid of him? If his 285 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 4: value to you is still that high? Why are you 286 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 4: getting rid of him? Look? 287 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 3: I think if you're the Lakers and you're planning on 288 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 3: moving on with him, moving on from him after a year, 289 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 3: just do it now? 290 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 2: Do it now? 291 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 4: Yeah? I make him make it doable. I'm with you. 292 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 4: Don't don't try. Don't try to rob the whole hen house. 293 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 4: If you know your intentions are to get him out 294 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 4: of there. If you want to get him out, then 295 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 4: make it a doable situation. Make it a doable deal. 296 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 4: And for what it's worth, if you felt like you 297 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 4: got dupe by bringing in his child, you could get 298 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 4: a two for one er. Yo, daddy, Yo, daddy did this? 299 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 4: Now you got to go right along with him? What's 300 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:05,400 Speaker 4: about a way? How do you handle that? Like, if 301 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 4: Bronnie James has to go because his dad he left, 302 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 4: how will the media handle that? That's a whole other 303 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 4: conversation in itself. 304 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:13,920 Speaker 3: God, what do you you will find out a lot 305 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 3: about lebron James's reputation in town if they traded him 306 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:21,439 Speaker 3: and then immediately after trading him they made Bronnie the custodian, 307 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 3: like that would be you'd find a hell of a 308 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:26,359 Speaker 3: lot about. Wasn't looking for that plot twist, but that 309 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 3: was the hell of a twist. Like all of a sudden, 310 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 3: they're like, heyre's here's a mop and a bucket. He 311 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 3: could say he's an employee of the LA Lakers. 312 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:39,200 Speaker 5: I mean, I mean, all the perks if he gets 313 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 5: to sit on the bench, but he's cleaning toilets and 314 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 5: cleaning floors during the week, making sure there's no dust 315 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 5: on the floor for practice, He's still considered to be 316 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 5: an employee of the LA Lakers. 317 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's the whole thing is a bit bizarre, but 318 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 3: nonetheless it is the Herd. 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Fox Sports Radio. 342 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 3: LaVar Arrington, Jonas Knox in for Colin coming up here 343 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:01,639 Speaker 3: in about twenty mine from now in another edition of 344 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:04,199 Speaker 3: The Herdline News. We had history in the world of 345 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 3: sports last night. We will tell you why, who it involved, 346 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 3: and how it nearly got a little bit interesting. That'll 347 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 3: be yours here again about twenty minutes from now here. 348 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:17,879 Speaker 3: On Fox Sports Radio, so Andrew Philippony, who's a radio 349 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:22,640 Speaker 3: host in Pittsburgh. He recently pointed out these Steelers being 350 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:26,679 Speaker 3: underdogs in eleven of seventeen games this upcoming season. So 351 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 3: here are the games, because it's a shorter list and 352 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:31,720 Speaker 3: it won't be I won't take us long. Here are 353 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 3: the games that they are favored in, Week one of 354 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 3: the Jets, Week two versus the Seahawks, Week six versus 355 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 3: the Browns, Week nine versus the Colts, Week fifteen versus 356 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:46,640 Speaker 3: the Dolphins, and Week seventeen at the Browns sidebar, thank 357 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:48,440 Speaker 3: you to the Cleveland Browns for being in the same 358 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 3: division as the Steelers, because you will guarantee that they 359 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:55,480 Speaker 3: won't finish last. But the Steelers being going into the 360 00:19:55,520 --> 00:20:00,920 Speaker 3: season with all this hooplaw and all this discussion, when 361 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:02,880 Speaker 3: you start to take a look back, and we've talked 362 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 3: about it on our show Two Pros and a Cup 363 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 3: of Joe, when you start to take a look back 364 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:11,439 Speaker 3: and you look at what the NFL presented them from 365 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 3: a schedule standpoint, they're up against it this year. Like 366 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:18,160 Speaker 3: they do not have an easy schedule. It is difficult, 367 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:20,880 Speaker 3: which is why the win total had been set at 368 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 3: eight and a half for Pittsburgh, and if you're an 369 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 3: eight or a nine win team in the AFC, you're 370 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 3: probably not gonna make the playoffs in that conference. So 371 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 3: for all the discussion about all the pieces they've added, 372 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 3: it still feels like Pittsburgh's up against it going into 373 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:37,880 Speaker 3: next year based on the schedule. 374 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:44,359 Speaker 4: Listen, I've made my points on this known as this 375 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 4: has continued to unfold. They have been active this offseason, 376 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:50,399 Speaker 4: and they have spent money. But people make the point 377 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 4: of saying that Pittsburgh spends their money on defense, and 378 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 4: that's true, it's proven through the information that is set 379 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 4: forth and put out there. But they do look to 380 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 4: be trying to improve their offense. Now. I don't know 381 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:09,359 Speaker 4: that I'm a believer in their back back committee that's 382 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:12,399 Speaker 4: in their running backs room right now, but maybe it 383 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 4: works out for them based on what they see in 384 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 4: terms of their quarterback position. It's a it's obviously a 385 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:25,119 Speaker 4: tremendous risk. It's a big move to bring in Aaron Rodgers, 386 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 4: and it's a probably a short lived move. But what 387 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:33,399 Speaker 4: does that short lived acquisition, What are the results of that? 388 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 4: So you guys, are you know the bet the betters 389 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:40,399 Speaker 4: out there or the prognosticators and betting are basically saying 390 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 4: that Aaron Aaron Rodgers is washed. That that is basically 391 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 4: in essence what they're saying. Damn. I mean, what else 392 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:52,440 Speaker 4: does that insinuate? What does that insinuate? I just love 393 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 4: that term washed, cleaned in a mother lover. So so 394 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 4: my whole thing is what can Pittsburgh do Pittsburgh? And 395 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:07,159 Speaker 4: this creates an interesting conversation Jonas, because I want to 396 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:08,920 Speaker 4: throw it out at you and see how you feel 397 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 4: about it and try to make some sense of it. 398 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:18,400 Speaker 4: They have a pretty decent defense. Their defense is not bad. 399 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:22,919 Speaker 4: If they were to lose TJ. Watt, We've had the conversation. 400 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 4: I don't think it can happen. Shouldn't be a conversation, 401 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:29,160 Speaker 4: but with some of the recent things I've heard swirling 402 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 4: around rumor wise, it's worth the conversation if you were 403 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:36,880 Speaker 4: to get rid of TJ. Watt because you felt as 404 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 4: though giving him a long term contract doesn't serve the 405 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:45,240 Speaker 4: Pittsburgh Steelers in a way where one you're going to 406 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:48,960 Speaker 4: get the amount of production that you want for the 407 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 4: amount of time that you want it for, and two 408 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:54,200 Speaker 4: it may make it difficult to trade him if you 409 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 4: wait and give him a new contract and try to 410 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:01,960 Speaker 4: trade him under the new contract that he has. If 411 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 4: right now you feel like this is the best time 412 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 4: to unload TJ. Watt because it's that year early before 413 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:12,879 Speaker 4: it's a year too late type of approach, then what 414 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 4: would you do to justify that trade. You would have 415 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:23,399 Speaker 4: to bring in someone who makes your team unequivocally better 416 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 4: and almost justifies it. 417 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 2: One. 418 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 4: I do not believe you can bring in a swapout. 419 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 4: It can't be a defender. It just can't. You cannot 420 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:36,399 Speaker 4: get rid of TJ. Watt and bring in another defender 421 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:38,199 Speaker 4: and hope that that's going to work out. There's no 422 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:40,200 Speaker 4: one out there that exists, and you can't do it. 423 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:42,679 Speaker 4: But what if you were to do it on the 424 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 4: offensive side of the ball, and you did a trade, 425 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:50,639 Speaker 4: you orchestrated a trade with say rumor has it with 426 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 4: the Washington commanders. With the Washington Commanders, you get a 427 00:23:56,320 --> 00:24:00,159 Speaker 4: couple nice draft picks that would give you the ability 428 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:03,120 Speaker 4: to start to build towards the future, because now you're 429 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 4: building draft stock and draft capital. But then you bring 430 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 4: in Terry McLaurin. If you add Terry McLaurin to now 431 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:17,200 Speaker 4: the ad of John U, now the addition of DK metcalf, 432 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:22,359 Speaker 4: and you have Terry McLaurin on that offensive side of 433 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:26,120 Speaker 4: the ball. I would say all that's left is do 434 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:29,240 Speaker 4: you have a running back and can your offensive line 435 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 4: hold up? If your offensive line, if you're confident that 436 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:35,879 Speaker 4: your offensive line can hold up, and you get someone 437 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 4: that can produce at an above average level, they don't 438 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:45,359 Speaker 4: have to be a superstar, even if it's by committee. 439 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:49,159 Speaker 4: Do you have a backfield that is conducive to giving 440 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:52,359 Speaker 4: you the hard yards that Pittsburgh has always needed to 441 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:56,160 Speaker 4: have to win in the AFC North. Does that make 442 00:24:56,200 --> 00:25:00,040 Speaker 4: it a more legitimized move forward? Does that actually the 443 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:05,200 Speaker 4: solidify an off season that where you say the Steelers 444 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:09,440 Speaker 4: are always defensively heavy. You just added Jalen Ramsey. If 445 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 4: you were to lose TJ. Watt, they are going to 446 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 4: have guys. It has happened before, when when Kevin Green 447 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:18,159 Speaker 4: and Greg Lloyd left, people thought that it was going 448 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:20,639 Speaker 4: to be hard to replace them, they replace them. When 449 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:23,399 Speaker 4: Joey Porter and Jason Gilden left, as hard as it 450 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 4: may seem and sound, they were replaced. When these guys 451 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:31,359 Speaker 4: have left. When Chad Brown and James Harrison have left, 452 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:35,960 Speaker 4: they have been replaced. Do you look at it from 453 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:39,920 Speaker 4: the historical standpoint of who you've replaced in the success 454 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 4: you've had at that very position that TJ. Watt is at, 455 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 4: And do you make a move that says we'll put 456 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 4: a younger guy in here. He's not a well known guy. 457 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,920 Speaker 4: It's probably the safer move, even though you're gonna get 458 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 4: spanked by the media, you're gonna get spanked by the 459 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 4: fan base. But is it a smart, legitimate, prudent move 460 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 4: to unload TJ. Watt now before it's a year too late, 461 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 4: add a guy a weapon in Terry McLaurin, which would 462 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:12,679 Speaker 4: be an amazing addition to that offense. In fact, you 463 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 4: would have no excuses if you're Aaron Rodgers or an 464 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 4: offensive coordinator on how to distribute the ball. You got 465 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:22,439 Speaker 4: John Nehu, you got Friar move, you got you got 466 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:26,199 Speaker 4: a double tight end set. You have so many, so 467 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:30,119 Speaker 4: many groupings that you could go out there in situational 468 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:34,040 Speaker 4: football and be in favorite like in a very very 469 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:40,440 Speaker 4: favorable situation. Does this make sense to you to take 470 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 4: that approach. 471 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:44,880 Speaker 3: I'm not doing it day because and look, we've talked 472 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:47,439 Speaker 3: about this before. I am at at I think getting 473 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 3: I think not getting a deal done with TJ. Watt 474 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 3: and moving on from him undoes all the good you 475 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:55,600 Speaker 3: did this offseason. And we made this point on our show. 476 00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:58,320 Speaker 3: If you were to get rid of TJ. Watt, doesn't 477 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:01,879 Speaker 3: it Isn't it counter to everything that you've been trying 478 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:03,040 Speaker 3: to do this offseason. 479 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 4: If you bring in a guy that makes Aaron Rodgers 480 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 4: that much more dangerous. I'm sorry, I just gotta say it. 481 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:14,159 Speaker 4: And as a defender, as a former defensive player, it 482 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 4: pains me to have to say it, it really does. 483 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:21,679 Speaker 4: But if I can improve and upgrade my offense to 484 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 4: that capacity, that's this. That is the Washington Commanders number 485 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:30,680 Speaker 4: one receiver, that's their number one target. If you were 486 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:34,480 Speaker 4: to bring in another one with DK Metcalf, who is 487 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:37,880 Speaker 4: a one which by the way, I made the point, 488 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:40,440 Speaker 4: and I made the discussion point, and I stand on it, 489 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,359 Speaker 4: it's a hell. I'm gonna put my ten toes down 490 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 4: and stand on it. I don't think that DK Metcalf 491 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:48,640 Speaker 4: was an upgrade from George Pickens. 492 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 2: I do not. 493 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,640 Speaker 4: I think that they had the same type of character traits. 494 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:57,119 Speaker 4: I think that they could potentially he could potentially be 495 00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:01,440 Speaker 4: an issue the same exact way Pickens was an issue. 496 00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 4: And I don't I didn't feel as though I felt 497 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 4: like that's a swapper, that's a one offer, Like that's 498 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,399 Speaker 4: it's a swap, it's a push. You didn't get better, 499 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:12,880 Speaker 4: but you didn't get worse. You add Terry McLaurin, who 500 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:17,800 Speaker 4: is a known character guy, high character guy, high achievement guy, 501 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:21,320 Speaker 4: understands the gang, good team guy. And oh, by the way, 502 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 4: he's an Ohio Stater, so he understands the area. There's 503 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:28,480 Speaker 4: the connection with the quarterback that just got drafted from 504 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:29,359 Speaker 4: Ohio State. 505 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:31,360 Speaker 2: I don't think that it. 506 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 4: Would be a bad move. I think it's a justifiable 507 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 4: move if you're upgrading your offense, even if it was 508 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 4: as significant a downgrade by letting TJ. Watt go. In 509 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:46,880 Speaker 4: the long run, you may look at him be like, Damn. TJ. 510 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:49,840 Speaker 4: Watt didn't have the greatest of years that next year. Dang, 511 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 4: he never really got back to where he was supposed 512 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:54,959 Speaker 4: to get to. Maybe the Steelers pulled the trigger at 513 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 4: the right time. It could possibly work in their favor, 514 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 4: especially if you come out and offense is cooking in 515 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 4: the AFC North. 516 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 3: Look, I love Terry McLaurin. I think he's one of 517 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:08,280 Speaker 3: the more underrated players in the league. I just did 518 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 3: to sacrifice what you would lose on defense with TJ. 519 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 3: Watt to add Terry McLaurin. I don't think it's worth it, 520 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 3: especially if Rogers is only going to be here for 521 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:21,360 Speaker 3: a year. Do you really want to part with a corner. 522 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 4: But that's where again you've always you're always going to 523 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:29,880 Speaker 4: be faced with those hard decisions. And and our guy 524 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 4: Bill Belichick was one of the best and greatest at 525 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 4: doing it. Getting rid of a guy that you was 526 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:39,840 Speaker 4: a beloved guy was a part of the fabric and 527 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:44,320 Speaker 4: of you know, the makeup of what the community represented. TJ. 528 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 4: Watt has done a fine job of building that type 529 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:53,000 Speaker 4: of of uh, you know, goodwill. He's banked a lot 530 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:57,320 Speaker 4: of good will. But that's still it's still the business 531 00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:00,960 Speaker 4: of football. It's still the business of pro sport, and 532 00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,719 Speaker 4: the business of pro sports says, put more points on 533 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,520 Speaker 4: the board. We want to have a defense that can 534 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 4: keep points off of the board so that we can 535 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 4: put more up. But the name of the game, the 536 00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:14,720 Speaker 4: rule changes. Everything is geared towards making sure that the 537 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:18,440 Speaker 4: game is a more offensively driven and stimulated game. And 538 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:22,040 Speaker 4: if I have to lose a major, major key and 539 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 4: a piece to our team on the defense side of 540 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 4: the ball, I at least want to do it knowing 541 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:30,600 Speaker 4: that I improved and I upgraded our ability to be 542 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 4: able to score touchdowns. And Terry McLaurin, with this group 543 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:37,880 Speaker 4: of guys that they brought in, I think they're in 544 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 4: a really really advantageous position if they were to make 545 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 4: that type of a move. 546 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:45,960 Speaker 3: So, as we mentioned, they're underdogs in eleven of seventeen games. 547 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,720 Speaker 3: Are the Pittsburgh Steelers going into next year? Does Terry 548 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 3: McLaurin coming in and losing TJ. Watt, does that take 549 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 3: that up or take it down? I would say that 550 00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:57,120 Speaker 3: it takes it up. I'll take I want TJ. 551 00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:00,160 Speaker 4: Watt. That takes Wait wait wait, if you were to 552 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:02,120 Speaker 4: lose TJ. Watt takes it up as in, you're going 553 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,880 Speaker 4: to lose more games? Yeah, oh no. If I were 554 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,240 Speaker 4: to take Terry McLaurin over TJ. Watt, yeah, you're gonna 555 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:08,800 Speaker 4: lose more game. You want to lose more games, well, 556 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 4: then you don't do it. If if you're in the 557 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 4: Pittsmark Steelers and you're looking at it from that perspective, 558 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:14,200 Speaker 4: then you don't do it. 559 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:17,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, I just I look if I'm Pittsburgh and I 560 00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:19,040 Speaker 3: know that you know what the odds are going into 561 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,800 Speaker 3: the season. But the reality is the NFL. There's injuries, 562 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:25,240 Speaker 3: there's you know, a couple of misplays here or there, 563 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 3: and teams that you expect to be good. It's why 564 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:30,640 Speaker 3: there's so much turnover in the postseason for the most part, 565 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 3: in the NFL, more so than other sports, because a 566 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 3: couple of games here or there, like it's a fine 567 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:39,680 Speaker 3: line between being seven and ten and ten and seven, like, 568 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:41,960 Speaker 3: it's a fine line. There's a couple of moments here 569 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:45,320 Speaker 3: there that could be make or break. So if you're Pittsburgh, 570 00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 3: you probably look at this and go, yeah, so we're 571 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:49,840 Speaker 3: only favored in six games going into this season if 572 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:52,720 Speaker 3: we're able to maintain and keep TJ. Watt and get 573 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:55,960 Speaker 3: him done, and everybody is blowing endorsement up TJ. 574 00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:58,280 Speaker 4: Watt. But if you're Pittsburgh and you go. 575 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 3: Least I would I would feel better about my chances 576 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:06,760 Speaker 3: going into next year with TJ. Watt as opposed to 577 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:08,600 Speaker 3: no TJ. Watt add Terry McLaurin. 578 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,760 Speaker 4: I think you're looking at it. You're looking at it 579 00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,600 Speaker 4: from a player to player perspective. I think you got 580 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:17,480 Speaker 4: to pull yourself out of looking at it from the 581 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:21,480 Speaker 4: Terry McLaurin to TJ. Watt perspective. It would be better 582 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:25,120 Speaker 4: to say TJ. Watt and Aaron Rodgers look at it 583 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:29,640 Speaker 4: from that perspective. It's the TJ. Watt versus Aaron Rodgers. 584 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:33,160 Speaker 4: Because if you're adding Terry McLaurin, that means you're giving 585 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:36,680 Speaker 4: another weapon to the person that you believe can come 586 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 4: in and win you more games right now if they're 587 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:41,239 Speaker 4: being projected, because I just said, don't do it. If 588 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 4: you think you're gonna only win ten, you're gonna win 589 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:45,440 Speaker 4: less games if you But if if you're projecting us 590 00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:48,040 Speaker 4: only win six games, why not take a chance. If 591 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:51,120 Speaker 4: we're only going to be six games good with with TJ. Watt, 592 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:55,000 Speaker 4: why not take a chance on we have Aaron Rodgers 593 00:32:55,120 --> 00:33:00,360 Speaker 4: at least for one season. If I have Aaron Rodgers. 594 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:03,880 Speaker 4: And basically what they're saying is they're putting their money down, 595 00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:06,680 Speaker 4: all their money at the center of the table, saying 596 00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,560 Speaker 4: that we're gonna get this one good year with Aaron 597 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:13,320 Speaker 4: Rodgers and you can add another weapon of that caliber 598 00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:19,280 Speaker 4: to his offense. I don't care who it is on 599 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:22,480 Speaker 4: that defensive side of the ball. If that gets a 600 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:24,640 Speaker 4: trade done where we can add that type of weapon 601 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:26,239 Speaker 4: to our offense, let's go. 602 00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:29,480 Speaker 3: Does it hurt your heart as a Pittsburgh guy and 603 00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 3: a defensive guy to be saying. 604 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:34,800 Speaker 4: This, yeh, because it seems so it seems so chaotic. 605 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:38,000 Speaker 4: You're not gonna be allowed to perman e's it seems, well, yes, 606 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:40,440 Speaker 4: I can't because I'm a Pittsburgher and I keep it real. 607 00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:42,400 Speaker 4: Because you got a sandwich four point two runs through 608 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:44,360 Speaker 4: these veins by guy, and that ain't gonna change. I'm 609 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:46,720 Speaker 4: in the Pittsburgh Hall of Fame, supports Hall of Fame. 610 00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:48,880 Speaker 4: But what is your primanne sandwich? What is it? A 611 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:49,560 Speaker 4: big fish? 612 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:49,959 Speaker 3: Uh? 613 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:50,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. 614 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:51,960 Speaker 3: If you go to the Promaney's in State College, you 615 00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:53,360 Speaker 3: can see LeVar Arrington up. 616 00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:53,600 Speaker 2: On the wall. 617 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:56,120 Speaker 4: There's a drawing of LeVar up on the wall. They 618 00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,880 Speaker 4: put the They put the historical sports figures of the 619 00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:01,640 Speaker 4: area on the wall. I happened to make the wall 620 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:03,800 Speaker 4: with some pretty special people. You can see my face 621 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:05,719 Speaker 4: on a urinal cake. I believe if you go here 622 00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:10,960 Speaker 4: but the big Fish the floor, I thought it was 623 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:13,000 Speaker 4: the name of the company, but it was actually you 624 00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:13,719 Speaker 4: like in here. 625 00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:18,799 Speaker 3: Dang yeah, look the Terry McLaurin situation. We can catch 626 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:20,799 Speaker 3: up with Albert Breer next hour and see if he 627 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,200 Speaker 3: knows any of the latest. That sounds intriguing, right, yea, 628 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:26,960 Speaker 3: not the least for and I hope heard the rumors 629 00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:31,400 Speaker 3: circulating around, and it was just worth having the conversation 630 00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:36,480 Speaker 3: because to me, if you're going to put your because basically, 631 00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:40,799 Speaker 3: in essence, this is Aaron Rodgers' career, like he's he's 632 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:42,520 Speaker 3: going to finish up, He's going to wrap it up. 633 00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:46,680 Speaker 3: Here in Pittsburgh, you have Mike Tomlin who could basically 634 00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:48,880 Speaker 3: you know, this could be it for him. You had 635 00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:51,240 Speaker 3: what's the name of the GM what's his name, Omar 636 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:54,120 Speaker 3: con Omark Cohn. This could be the end of his career. 637 00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:57,840 Speaker 4: Damn. I mean in Pittsburgh, it could be the the 638 00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:00,680 Speaker 4: It could cost a lot of people there jobs if 639 00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:04,359 Speaker 4: this doesn't work, if the stakes are this high, if 640 00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:06,839 Speaker 4: the stakes aren't as high, you've made this many decisions 641 00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,680 Speaker 4: and this many moves to try to make your team better. 642 00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:14,000 Speaker 4: Are you telling me in a in a decision and 643 00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:17,319 Speaker 4: a movement in an offseason where we could possibly save 644 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:19,880 Speaker 4: our jobs and put us in a position to build 645 00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:23,080 Speaker 4: our team for the future by creating draft capital, that 646 00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:27,560 Speaker 4: you would not sacrifice a player, even of the caliber TJ. Watt, 647 00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:31,440 Speaker 4: You would not sacrifice him for that. It's just as 648 00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:33,759 Speaker 4: someone's one of them hard questions is what you get 649 00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:36,959 Speaker 4: the big dollars for? But it's worth discussing because I'm 650 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:41,000 Speaker 4: giving Aaron Rodgers as many weapons as I possibly can 651 00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:45,200 Speaker 4: and adding Terry McLaurin and some some strong draft capital 652 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:48,239 Speaker 4: with doing that, it just seems like it might be 653 00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:49,480 Speaker 4: the right decision to make. 654 00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,560 Speaker 3: It is The Herd here Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington, 655 00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:55,440 Speaker 3: Jonas knox In for Colin. 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This is the 678 00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:53,560 Speaker 2: Herd Line News. 679 00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:55,000 Speaker 4: Yeah right music again. 680 00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:56,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, let's go. 681 00:36:59,120 --> 00:36:59,319 Speaker 4: Time. 682 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:03,880 Speaker 7: Come on, all right, guys, come on, big night in 683 00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:08,600 Speaker 7: La milestone moment for Clayton Kershaw, just the twentieth pitcher 684 00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:13,600 Speaker 7: in league history to record three thousand career strikeouts. And 685 00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:18,319 Speaker 7: here it was on Am five seventy one, two pitch strike. 686 00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:24,440 Speaker 8: Three, cold buds. He got a little slider strike out 687 00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:31,640 Speaker 8: number three thousand for Clayton Kershaw history at Dodgers Stadium. 688 00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:35,320 Speaker 7: Obviously, Kershaw hasn't quite been the same in several seasons, 689 00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:39,439 Speaker 7: but great to see him finally achieve that greatness at 690 00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:42,719 Speaker 7: home in front of the Dodger faithful at Chavez Review. 691 00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:46,120 Speaker 4: He was getting lit up early, did not look good. 692 00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:49,160 Speaker 7: It didn't look like he was gonna make it through there, 693 00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:51,960 Speaker 7: but he pulled it off because Dave Roberts. 694 00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:54,480 Speaker 3: I don't want to say gambles the right word, especially 695 00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:58,759 Speaker 3: in today's sports climate, but Dave Roberts, he pulled him 696 00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:02,880 Speaker 3: after sixty nine pitches in Colorado because he wanted to 697 00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:05,680 Speaker 3: set it up or again Colorado because he wanted to 698 00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:07,480 Speaker 3: set it up to where he could do it at 699 00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:10,640 Speaker 3: home in front of the crowd. And it wasn't until 700 00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:13,719 Speaker 3: his last, last inning, last pitch that he was able 701 00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:15,640 Speaker 3: to get that third strikeout. But other than that, it 702 00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:17,680 Speaker 3: was it was not looking good. And then Freddie Freeman 703 00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:19,480 Speaker 3: walking it off at the end was appropriate. 704 00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:22,600 Speaker 4: That was perfect. So good good night for the Dodger fans. 705 00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:23,920 Speaker 4: Got to love those magical moments. 706 00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:27,840 Speaker 7: All right, Horness, we're gonna say this one's for you 707 00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:32,040 Speaker 7: in the in laws. Well, US men's national team captured 708 00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:34,880 Speaker 7: a two to one win over Guatemala to advance to 709 00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:40,320 Speaker 7: the Gold Cup Final taking place on Sunday against Mexico. Yeah, 710 00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:43,160 Speaker 7: this is one of This is of course, last major 711 00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:46,120 Speaker 7: competitive tournament for the US as they prepare for the 712 00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:47,240 Speaker 7: World Cup next summer. 713 00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:51,160 Speaker 4: Now, look good, guys, Guatemala's. 714 00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:54,600 Speaker 3: Okay, I will so this This sets up the Mexico 715 00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:56,319 Speaker 3: US final again, correct, all right? 716 00:38:56,400 --> 00:39:00,360 Speaker 4: Now they do not like each other. No, no, there's no. 717 00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:04,400 Speaker 4: I mean maybe the stakes are There's been reports of 718 00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:07,520 Speaker 4: bags of urine being thrown on the field players. 719 00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:10,680 Speaker 3: You know, it gets a little gets a little spicy. 720 00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:17,719 Speaker 3: I have a strict policy. Okay, root against whoever the 721 00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:22,200 Speaker 3: in laws are rooting for. Okay, right, So go USA, 722 00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:25,920 Speaker 3: and I just hope that I'm in a crowd, a 723 00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:28,680 Speaker 3: room full of the in laws to where I can 724 00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:30,839 Speaker 3: go ahead, a room full of what, well, just a 725 00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:35,439 Speaker 3: crowd with enough people. Because I was at I read this. 726 00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:39,759 Speaker 3: I was at a Mexican restaurant. I was at a 727 00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:43,480 Speaker 3: Mexican restaurant and they were playing the Netherlands in the 728 00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:46,000 Speaker 3: World Cup back and I think it was twenty twelve, 729 00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:48,719 Speaker 3: and I remember my I was with my wife and 730 00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:51,440 Speaker 3: girlfriend at the time, and we were there and it 731 00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:53,560 Speaker 3: was I mean, there was guys sitting there with the 732 00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:55,680 Speaker 3: Mexican flag draped around him, and I didn't have a 733 00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:56,480 Speaker 3: rooting interest at all. 734 00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:58,839 Speaker 4: We're just watching that. I looked around. I was like, oh, 735 00:39:58,960 --> 00:39:59,800 Speaker 4: let me go and start this. 736 00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:03,200 Speaker 3: So I started live betting on the Netherlands, and I 737 00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:05,719 Speaker 3: didn't think they had any shot at winning. Mexico gave 738 00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:07,560 Speaker 3: up a goal with like two minutes left and then 739 00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:09,840 Speaker 3: lost it in the extra time, and I looked around 740 00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:13,400 Speaker 3: and everybody was just mortified. I thought it was hilarious. 741 00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:16,359 Speaker 3: I'm sorry. I grew up a Cubs fan. I got 742 00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:16,759 Speaker 3: the right. 743 00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:20,080 Speaker 4: You gotta be a being careful doing that with this one. 744 00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:24,920 Speaker 4: That's just got to be careful right now. I mean, 745 00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:27,399 Speaker 4: I'm just saying you won't be politically correct. No, well, 746 00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:33,040 Speaker 4: look they I mean I understand. No, listen, there's I 747 00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:35,080 Speaker 4: guess if people want to take it that direction, they can. 748 00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:38,200 Speaker 3: I'm looking at from a soccer standpoint. Okay, you know, 749 00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:41,200 Speaker 3: I'm just root against the opposite team. That's fine. We've 750 00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:44,920 Speaker 3: talked the best before. One of the great joys in 751 00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:47,080 Speaker 3: a man's life is when you can root against your 752 00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:47,880 Speaker 3: buddies team. 753 00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:51,520 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, it's just a wonderful moment. And so some 754 00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:54,279 Speaker 4: of the best fights in Hubs after. 755 00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:57,279 Speaker 3: Like, you don't even care about the other team, you 756 00:40:57,360 --> 00:40:58,799 Speaker 3: just want your buddies team to lose. 757 00:40:58,800 --> 00:40:58,960 Speaker 4: Oh. 758 00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:01,959 Speaker 7: One of my best friends has always been a Kings fan, 759 00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:06,200 Speaker 7: and when they were up to oh on the Warriors 760 00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:08,600 Speaker 7: a couple of years ago to finally win a playoff 761 00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:11,319 Speaker 7: series for the first time in forever, and then they 762 00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:13,560 Speaker 7: ended up losing to the Warriors. 763 00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:15,000 Speaker 4: It was such a great feeling. 764 00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:22,840 Speaker 3: Yes, really it makes us sick, but there's something about it. 765 00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:25,319 Speaker 3: You can't explain it. And she'll ask me all the time, like, 766 00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:27,440 Speaker 3: why do you just root against the other team when 767 00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:30,799 Speaker 3: you know we're all rooting for Mexico or whoever? And 768 00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:32,400 Speaker 3: I was like, because that's what I do. That's what 769 00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:34,400 Speaker 3: guys do. There you go, it's what we do. 770 00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:35,279 Speaker 4: I mean fun. 771 00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:38,760 Speaker 7: Nobody wants to be at the bottom of the pile, 772 00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:42,880 Speaker 7: so if you can somehow find someone else to drag 773 00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:46,719 Speaker 7: down and throw them underneath, You're like, that's exactly where 774 00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:47,320 Speaker 7: we want to beat. 775 00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:49,920 Speaker 4: You do not want to know what happens at the 776 00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:53,279 Speaker 4: bottom of the pole. Ups what happens, Oh, All kinds 777 00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:57,840 Speaker 4: of screaming, hollering, just very inappropriate things happen at the 778 00:41:57,880 --> 00:41:59,239 Speaker 4: bottom of the pole. You don't want to be in 779 00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:02,000 Speaker 4: the bottom nay and prodden. Oh no, it's like more 780 00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:07,080 Speaker 4: like grabbing and twisting, God, pinching and pinching, pinching and pooling. 781 00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:10,399 Speaker 4: Yeah no, no, let's go to break. I'm just say, 782 00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:13,480 Speaker 4: don't want to go any deeper into this. Oh God, boss, 783 00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:17,680 Speaker 4: why is that trial over? It is? 784 00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:20,480 Speaker 2: Can we talk again? 785 00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:23,680 Speaker 4: Can we talk freely again? I just yeah, I want 786 00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:25,280 Speaker 4: to know, damn.