1 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 1: Strap on the boots and scrape up the knuckles ahead. 2 00:00:05,640 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 1: He got Jack. This is the Big Red Radio presented 3 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 1: by Santanford in Gilbert. Harry's gonna score touchdown and so 4 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 1: for bets goes up and makes the game. When it cast, 5 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 1: Flarry Luncheon does it again. The Rage is brought to 6 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 1: you by satan Ford in Gilbert. Are you Santanford State Farm? 7 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:32,240 Speaker 1: Talk to an agent today at eight hundred State Farm 8 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:37,880 Speaker 1: and buy Arizona Cardinals podcasts, Visit Acy Cardinals dot Com, 9 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 1: Slash podcasts, The Rod sn Rising Guard, Temperatureizing Vision, Flurry, 10 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:50,839 Speaker 1: Rage taking over. Here's Paul KELVC. Get the popcorn ready, 11 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:53,600 Speaker 1: It's gonna be a show and Ron will flip. It 12 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 1: doesn't get any better than that horn unleash the far 13 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 1: Quote Justin Pugh starting left guard as he walked off 14 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:08,760 Speaker 1: that field on Sunday, Now that was wild. I don't know. 15 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:11,760 Speaker 1: Maybe we'll quote Patrick Peterson in his Twitter account that 16 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 1: video tweet with d Hop where he said are you 17 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:18,119 Speaker 1: not entertained? And you know what that would be right 18 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 1: on the money. When you're talking about the cardinals last 19 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 1: two wins being the two most the two most entertaining, gripping, 20 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 1: compelling games of the entire NFL season when you think 21 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:33,039 Speaker 1: about it, that last second walk off win you got there, 22 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 1: and then of course Seattle in overtime and Ron wolfleet 23 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 1: not off on the couch on a Sunday at your 24 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 1: own risk. Of course, this week it'll be Thursday, and 25 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 1: we're talking about your TV, your radio dial, all the above. 26 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 1: In fact, Dave Pash will join us on this edition 27 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 1: to the Big Red Rage presented by santan Ford and 28 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:52,559 Speaker 1: Gilbert We are santan Ford, Well, hey, what a great 29 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 1: thing for the Arizona Cardinals right now, right honestly, after 30 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 1: nine games of the season, over the halfway point. Right now, 31 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 1: you're sitting there at six and three, and you are, indeed, 32 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 1: via the tiebreaker, on top of the NFC West. Baby. 33 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 1: I don't know about you, Paul, but I'll tell you 34 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:12,639 Speaker 1: it's been a wild ride, baby, And now you get 35 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: a Thursday night game at Seattle. We know what dramas 36 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 1: waiting there. We know how the Seahawks have been struggling, 37 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 1: and Russell Wilson, he's been going the wrong direction. And 38 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 1: all the while you are the talk of the NFL. 39 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 1: The play of the year and Ron Wolfley, what has 40 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 1: your week been like? I'm gonna ask the same question 41 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:33,239 Speaker 1: to day, Pash, what's it been like being Ron Wolfley 42 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 1: when your call went vibral? First of all, you know 43 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 1: what it was, Dave pass As we all know, it 44 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 1: was Pash who actually made the call. I just came 45 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 1: in after that. But Paul, it was the raw emotion 46 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:46,640 Speaker 1: of it, all right. We all were sitting there with 47 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 1: our arms up, like what just happened? I mean, the 48 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 1: hell Murray is what it's going to be known as, right, 49 00:02:55,680 --> 00:03:01,080 Speaker 1: But DeAndre Hopkins equal parts unbelievable talent from the throw 50 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:04,360 Speaker 1: to the catch those two things, Polly, was that a 51 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:07,119 Speaker 1: lucky thing for the Arizona Cardinals? Was that a lucky play? 52 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 1: It's not a hy percentage play. I'll tell you that 53 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 1: right now. But when you look at the talent, when 54 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 1: you look at what it took for Kyler Murray to 55 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 1: get that ball off, and then how he threw that ball, 56 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 1: and how well he threw that ball, and then the 57 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 1: fact d hop beat three. Paul, it's off the charts, 58 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 1: you know. To answer your question, I didn't even think 59 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 1: of it in terms of anything other than luck until 60 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 1: DJ Humphrey said after the game, and I quote loosely, 61 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 1: that's the first hail Mayer I've ever seen that wasn't 62 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 1: luck well right, And it gets you to thinking that 63 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 1: you're absolutely right in the manner in which DeAndre Hopkins 64 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 1: did not react because I was right there in the 65 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 1: end zone in the front row, and everyone else was 66 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 1: going wild. Not de hop He didn't seem surprised in 67 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 1: the least. Polly, you know what, you don't have a 68 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 1: hail mary where it's just one of your guys, right, 69 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 1: You don't do that. I mean, was that, Hey, throw 70 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 1: the ball to DeAndre Hopkins. I mean it is what 71 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray tweeted out after the game, where he said, Hey, 72 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 1: you know what, d Hopp's got to be down there somewhere, 73 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 1: throw the ball because there were no other players around him. 74 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 1: A hail mary, a true hail mary, is more than 75 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:18,799 Speaker 1: just one receiver. You got a lot of guys around 76 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 1: him waiting for a deflection. That's not what it was. 77 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 1: As Kyler said, all he saw were the black gloves 78 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:28,599 Speaker 1: extending of the massive humanity the three defenders and wolf. 79 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 1: Did we not ask Cliff Kingsbury this week about that? 80 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:33,279 Speaker 1: For his Weekly TV Show game plan, and he told 81 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 1: us that was not your traditional hail Mary that was 82 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 1: designed to go underneath and get out of bounds. Yes, 83 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:43,160 Speaker 1: so did he have the option on that play obviously, 84 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 1: and for Kyler to get it off and for Tea 85 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:47,720 Speaker 1: Hop to make the grab, and then Ford Hop to 86 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:51,279 Speaker 1: get a tweet from Lebron after the game that said wow, Wow, Wow, 87 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 1: and Blake Shelton with a tweet we can't repeat. We're 88 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 1: just getting rolling. On The Big Red Rage presented by 89 00:04:56,000 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 1: Satan Ford in Gilbert. Here's the tick off the middle 90 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 1: of the field and it scooped up in the thirty 91 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:08,719 Speaker 1: yard line by Hide, running left pitches and back. Then 92 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 1: it goes out of bound and the game is over. 93 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 1: The Cardinals win it thirty two to thirty, one of 94 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 1: the most incredible, unbelievable victories in the history of the franchise, 95 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:25,559 Speaker 1: and the Cardinals are in position to grab a hold 96 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 1: of first place in the NFC West. Thursday night in Seattle, 97 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 1: it isn't three way tie right now in the NFC West. 98 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 1: Day passed straight ahead on this edition of The Big 99 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 1: Red Rage. Paul calvic Ron willfully the Cardinals trailed against 100 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 1: Buffalo at home midway through the third quarter. In fact, 101 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 1: about six minutes ago, they were still down twenty three 102 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 1: to nine, and then with thirty four seconds to play, 103 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 1: they were down thirty to twenty six after the twenty 104 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 1: one yard strike from Josh Allen to Stephan Diggs. Yet 105 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 1: the Cardinals find a way, just like they beat Seattle 106 00:05:57,240 --> 00:06:00,479 Speaker 1: at Seattle's own game three games ago, and now they're 107 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 1: going for the season and series sweep. Here on Thursday night, 108 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 1: you had a team that came back Wolf. So just 109 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:11,840 Speaker 1: a manner in which they won the game is noteworthy, 110 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 1: isn't it. Yes, Polly, it really is right now. Of course, 111 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 1: it's not just what you do, it's how you do it. 112 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 1: To your point, the manner in which they won this game, 113 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:22,840 Speaker 1: this is a win, Polly, that I think could change 114 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 1: in the season for the Arizona Cardinals. Listen to the 115 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:29,679 Speaker 1: defense won the game for Arizona, but gave up thirty points, 116 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:33,920 Speaker 1: including the Bills go ahead touchdown with thirty four seconds 117 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 1: to go. The offense wasn't great, but scored thirty two points. Paul, 118 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:41,039 Speaker 1: stop and think about that. I mean, the Cardinals look 119 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 1: like they had lost the game, and now here they 120 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 1: sit at six and three in first place in the 121 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 1: NFC West via the tiebreakers. This is a weird set 122 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:55,159 Speaker 1: of circumstances and that was a strange and weird game, 123 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:57,720 Speaker 1: but they found a way to win. In Paullen. They've 124 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:01,719 Speaker 1: beaten three really good teams so far. And it is interesting. 125 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 1: You're right with the defense. For example, a they allowed 126 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:07,160 Speaker 1: thirty four points to Seattle, yet won the game and overtime. 127 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 1: They only allowed seven in the second half and overtime. 128 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 1: That's right. And then in the second half against Buffalo 129 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 1: they held him scoreless on six out of eight possessions. 130 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 1: They had two picks of Josh Allen. And you know 131 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 1: there's another stat. When Josh Allen was under pressure Wolf 132 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 1: he was just four or fourteen passing for twenty eight 133 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 1: Measley yards and an interception. Yes, so minus Chandler Jones fans, 134 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 1: Joseph has been dialing up some schemes and especially after 135 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 1: halftime in these last two wins. Poly Honestly, right now, 136 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 1: I think you've got it. You got to back off. 137 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 1: You gotta go big picture. When you talk about the 138 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals, they're in a state of flux right now. 139 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 1: This team is trying to find the standard, their standard. 140 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 1: This team is gonna They're trying to go from being 141 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 1: a five win team to a playoff team. Well, it's 142 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 1: like Doctor Jekyl and mister Hyde. For the most part. 143 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 1: They need to keep beating teams that are good football 144 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 1: teams and stop losing the teams that they should beat, 145 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 1: especially at home. They need to get over that. They 146 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 1: really do. But they're trying to find where is their 147 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 1: standard and once that happens, Paul, if they do find it, 148 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 1: look out and remember, sixteen of the last seventeen years 149 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 1: in the NFL, a team has gone from worst to 150 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 1: first in its own division. Think about that as he 151 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 1: talked about the big picture. Here's Cliff Kingsbury after the 152 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 1: game in the locker room, courtesy of Acy Cardinals dot Com. 153 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:32,959 Speaker 1: Oh look, I've never been a part of one of 154 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 1: my dad on my home Mary, I appreciate trouble. That's 155 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 1: the type of way to get my roll. That's the 156 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:40,839 Speaker 1: take you build off of. All right, you kept fighting, 157 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 1: you thract yourself all week to hello jobs. Now we 158 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 1: set ourselves up for a Thursday night show. The right, right, 159 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:48,439 Speaker 1: So let's tell the rate that's one about twelve are 160 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 1: now the twenty four. All right, now the twenty four. 161 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 1: This time it's your twelve good ones. And then get 162 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 1: back and get ready to play prime time on Thursday night. 163 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 1: If you want to know about the Arizona Cardinals, well, 164 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 1: somebody comes up to you. They haven't seen the Cardinals 165 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:07,560 Speaker 1: play all year. How early in the conversation would you 166 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 1: mention the run game right now? Because what the Cardinals 167 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 1: are doing leading the NFL in rushing yards and number 168 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:19,079 Speaker 1: one in rushing touchdowns and five point three yards per Carrie. 169 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 1: They had two hundred plus rushing yards again against Buffalo. 170 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:26,079 Speaker 1: That's five times now in twenty five games under Cliff Kingsbury. 171 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:29,960 Speaker 1: At what point do you start for being known for 172 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 1: Cliff and Kyler? And really you gotta talk about the 173 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 1: run game. Yeah, you got to talk about the run game, Polly, 174 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 1: But there's just so much more to this team right now. 175 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 1: It's just they're swirling around them. We all know how 176 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 1: good Kyler Murray is. We all know how good DeAndre 177 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 1: Hopkins is. We all know Larry Fitzgerald, Christian Kirk, the 178 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:52,200 Speaker 1: talent this offense has. Right now, what nobody talks about 179 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 1: is the offensive line, and how well, Polly that belie 180 00:09:57,280 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 1: gerd nationally at least that bo leaguer. The offensive line 181 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:05,199 Speaker 1: is doing for the Arizona Cardinals. They are the unsung 182 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 1: hero as far as I'm concerned of twenty twenty, that 183 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:15,479 Speaker 1: Bill's defense was considered stout going into that game. Correct, well, yeah, yeah, absolutely, 184 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:18,320 Speaker 1: Paul I would say, you know, they weren't m the 185 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 1: lighting it up, Let's put it that way. But especially 186 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 1: in terms of stopping the run, they're not very strong 187 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 1: that way. But Paul, it's really not about that. It 188 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 1: isn't It's not just the Bills game. Look at the 189 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 1: entire body of work. Going into the Bills game. Kyler 190 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 1: Murray had been hit the least in the National Football League. 191 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 1: Think about that ball the least. Now, a lot of 192 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:44,440 Speaker 1: that is because Kyler's really really good at escaping some pressure. 193 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 1: But think about it. It sounds like there's been games 194 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:51,200 Speaker 1: or Kyler Murray. It's just under durest the entire game. 195 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 1: This offensive line is the unsung hero of the season. 196 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 1: By the way, lost last I saw Kyler Murray, he 197 00:10:57,360 --> 00:10:59,719 Speaker 1: was down doing the postgame TV interview with CBS, and 198 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:01,440 Speaker 1: the I'd see that was still in the stadium was 199 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 1: chanting MVP, MVP. Yeah, we'll get thoughts from day Pass 200 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 1: on that what sort of week as the voice of 201 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals had. I think we saw him an 202 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 1: NFL network And so while he's had to bust out 203 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:18,559 Speaker 1: the pancake makeup this week, you know it's it's multi 204 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 1: media for Dave Pass. As we continue on the Big 205 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 1: Red Rage presented by Satan Ford in Gilbert Hopkins to 206 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 1: the left, three receivers to the right, Cardinals trailed by four. 207 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 1: They're on a timeouts, eleven seconds left in the game. 208 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 1: First down at the Buffalo forty three. Now the Bills 209 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 1: dropped two men back twenty five yards down field. Hurried 210 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:50,079 Speaker 1: back to throw, lunched out, rolling left in trouble, slips 211 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:52,680 Speaker 1: a tackle, Gotta launch it. He does the left side 212 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:56,320 Speaker 1: into the end zone, jump wall and it is Is 213 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:59,079 Speaker 1: it caught? Is it caught? Oh my goodness, it's caught. 214 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 1: DeAndre hop and fine he bought it read ducked down 215 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 1: and put one second lap. I can't believe that. You 216 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 1: gotta be joking me. Hopkins reaches up with three defenders 217 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 1: around him head, pulls it in hand. The Cardinals lead 218 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 1: at thirties to to three. Put a second lap. Duke 219 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 1: can't cover Duke, You're not gonna be able to cover him. 220 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 1: Throw the ball up. That's what Carler Murray done. He 221 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:31,440 Speaker 1: extended the play with his legs and Joseph shot down, 222 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 1: ling off into the year, into the desert sky Baby 223 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 1: the d hop brought it down Touchstoff. He's got two 224 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 1: frying pants her hands when he but he has his 225 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 1: hands in his side. It looks like he's holding lunch pails. 226 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:53,440 Speaker 1: He's got these enormous hands, and he reached something there 227 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:56,319 Speaker 1: with those two mits, with three bills around him, and 228 00:12:56,440 --> 00:13:03,200 Speaker 1: he pulled the ball down. Unbelievable the way that just happen. 229 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:11,319 Speaker 1: Oh goodness, Kyler Murray threw up a prayer as we 230 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 1: let that hang in the air like the football itself. 231 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:17,720 Speaker 1: The extended version of great job by our Jim Almandra. 232 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 1: Putting that together, DeAndre Hopkins called that the best catch 233 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 1: all time in his career. Think about that, Think of 234 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:27,959 Speaker 1: how many grabs. Think about where that rates. And Ron 235 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:30,679 Speaker 1: Wolfley when day Pash finally writes his book and he 236 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 1: gets off his rear end and he writes that book, 237 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:34,199 Speaker 1: and there's gonna be a chapter on you. Wolf and 238 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:36,440 Speaker 1: there's gonna be two chapters on Bill Walton and one 239 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 1: on Di Vital and Dave Pash is gonna rank all 240 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:41,959 Speaker 1: his calls, or at least give his top five or 241 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 1: top ten. So I put the same question to you, Dave, 242 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 1: where does that call rank in your lineage of calls? 243 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 1: All I know, Paulie and Wolf is I'm so tired 244 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 1: of hearing my own voice. I mean, I've heard it 245 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 1: every I've heard it everywhere this week. It's great, it's nice. 246 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 1: It just I mean fun to be a part of that. 247 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 1: I you know, as you guys know, doing so many 248 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 1: games nationally, I love doing the Cardinals because I get 249 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:11,959 Speaker 1: to be a fan. I get to root, and that 250 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 1: also means what things aren't going well, you get dejected. 251 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 1: And I remember when Dig scored that touchdown and the 252 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 1: Cardinals got the ball back, I felt like I was 253 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 1: in the corner with a Dunce cap on, you know, 254 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 1: crying in my lap. You know, it just felt like 255 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 1: they were gonna lose. So it was unexpected to begin with. Obviously, 256 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 1: all Hail Merry's are, but especially in that situation, how 257 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 1: the Cardinals got down. So I don't know how to 258 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 1: put into words what we saw this past week, because 259 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 1: I still feel like it didn't happen. It's still surreal. 260 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 1: It's interesting that we have a short week because you've 261 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 1: got to kind of forget about it here in forty 262 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 1: eight hours, because if you lose against Seattle, it'll really 263 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 1: feel like it's in the rear beer mirror. David, I've 264 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 1: had a very hard time justifying this play myself. I 265 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 1: look at it and was that a lucky thing that 266 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 1: happened to the Arizona Cardinals. I don't think there's any 267 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 1: doubt about it. It was a lucky thing to happen. 268 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 1: It's not a high percentage play that that play is 269 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 1: going to score a touchdown or you're gonna win a 270 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 1: game on that play very often. But I can tell 271 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 1: you right now when you go inside of it and 272 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 1: you look at the incredible athleticism of Kyler Murray escaping 273 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 1: the rush, avoiding a bill, throwing the ball while he's 274 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 1: running to his left over at Oliver and a perfect 275 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 1: strike into the end zone, and then DeAndre Hopkins the 276 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 1: raw unmitigated talent of going up and high pointing the 277 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 1: ball and coming down while there are three bills around him. 278 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 1: How could it possibly be. Look when you look at 279 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 1: that kind of talent, right, That's why I'm having a 280 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 1: hard time justifying it. David. Yeah, it's a perfect storm. 281 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 1: You got an elusive quarterback who has a running skill 282 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 1: set that we have never seen from the quarterback position 283 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 1: in the NFL. When you combine it with his skill 284 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 1: set as a passer, I mean to be able to 285 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 1: slip that tackle and then moving to his left throw 286 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 1: a line drive. Really it was a line drive fifty 287 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 1: yards and on target. And then yes, DeAndre Hopkins with 288 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 1: the big hands, the shot the still shot at him 289 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 1: with those black gloves where you have all the bills 290 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 1: wearing the white gloves and you see the black gloves 291 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 1: come out from seemingly nowhere and his hands look like 292 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 1: they're bigger than the ball. So yes, was it luck, 293 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 1: of course, But sometimes you make your own luck. I mean, 294 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 1: we saw Aaron Rodgers do it twice in a game, 295 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 1: and we saw him do at other times. I mean, 296 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 1: I think some guys just have a knack for making 297 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 1: the incredible play. And those are two guys that grew 298 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 1: and the guy who has the supreme confidence in making 299 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:04,399 Speaker 1: the incredible play, DeAndre Hopkins. Uh, he was you know, 300 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 1: all too willing to admit as much. You know, in 301 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 1: basketball terminology, that's what they call it is you know, 302 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:18,400 Speaker 1: somebody get dunked on. It was on three people. Yeah, yep, 303 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 1: that was you know, they were in position. It was 304 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 1: just a better case by Ivy, by Iyeyes. So but 305 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 1: by the way, you see, he retweeted today, guys, so 306 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 1: you mentioned the gloves and you can see the jump 307 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 1: Man logo on the gloves. He retweeted a sports business 308 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:37,200 Speaker 1: reporter who estimated that they've got about two point five 309 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 1: million dollars plus worth of media multimedia exposure just based 310 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 1: on the logo and all the coverage between the video 311 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 1: and the still pictures. And what was your moment of realization, Dave, 312 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 1: Because for me, I'm down in the corner right, I'm 313 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:51,680 Speaker 1: in the front row, and it's right in front of me, 314 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 1: and I realized, wait a minute, the ball's not on 315 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 1: the ground. Hang on, the ball's not it's not in 316 00:17:57,320 --> 00:17:59,639 Speaker 1: the clutches of one of those three Bills defenders. That 317 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:01,879 Speaker 1: this process of elimination, it's got to be in the 318 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 1: hands of DeAndre Hopkins. And at that moment I realized 319 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:06,879 Speaker 1: it was a touchdown. How about you was it when 320 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:11,400 Speaker 1: the rest finally made the signal. Two things. First of all, 321 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 1: if you want to make a basketball analogy, that to 322 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 1: me was Grant Hill to Christian Latner and then later 323 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:19,920 Speaker 1: hitting a shot to be Kentucky and the Elite eight 324 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 1: in ninety two. I believe it was that. If you 325 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 1: want to make a basketball comparison, that would be it 326 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:29,119 Speaker 1: for me. I think it was Andy Isabella when I 327 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 1: saw him reach down, I'm thinking, well, why is he 328 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 1: reaching down? That must mean Hopkins has the ball. And 329 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:41,720 Speaker 1: because of the angle of where we're calling that play from, 330 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 1: we're basically in the other end zone, so it's not 331 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:48,200 Speaker 1: like we're at midfield where you really could see Hopkins 332 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:52,200 Speaker 1: holding the ball. So my view is blocked a little 333 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:54,639 Speaker 1: bit by Isabella. But I think at that point you 334 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 1: knew Hopkins had the ball. And then you see the 335 00:18:57,320 --> 00:18:59,119 Speaker 1: hands go up from the official and a lot of 336 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:01,479 Speaker 1: Cardinal players are jumping around and the Bills have their 337 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 1: heads down, and it all happened so fast. It was 338 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 1: just incredible. Yeah, for me, I can tell you as well. 339 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:10,400 Speaker 1: Guys just looking down there right, it was the back 340 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 1: judge that came over and you could see him and 341 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 1: he was not signaling incomplete, and that to me, if 342 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:19,159 Speaker 1: you listen to the call, David, I didn't want to 343 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:21,159 Speaker 1: step on you because you're you're so good at what 344 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 1: you do, and if you listen closely, though, I'm going 345 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:30,640 Speaker 1: I literally am doing it through my teeth, signaling out 346 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:34,160 Speaker 1: the window. It was a touchdown because the back judge 347 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:37,879 Speaker 1: hadn't signaled it yet, but he wasn't saying it was incomplete. 348 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 1: I was like, he he's got to see where's the 349 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 1: ball he's got I mean he would see it because 350 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:45,959 Speaker 1: it was in that far end zone it where our 351 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:48,440 Speaker 1: broadcast booth is. Of course that it was a tough 352 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:51,720 Speaker 1: call and hard to see. Yeah, I just didn't well 353 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:53,639 Speaker 1: if I just didn't want to say, you know, I 354 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 1: never want to call it until you're absolutely sure, especially 355 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:00,040 Speaker 1: in a play like that. I mean, imagine if I 356 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 1: called a touchdown, it's not much right and then you 357 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 1: got to go apologize and explain yourself. So better be 358 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 1: safe and sorry. Plus I had the binocular, so I 359 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:10,359 Speaker 1: couldn't if your hands are up, Wolf, I was looking 360 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:13,359 Speaker 1: the other way through the Yeah. Absolutely. We asked Cliff 361 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:15,920 Speaker 1: Kingsbury yesterday if he'd even gotten all the text messages 362 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:17,680 Speaker 1: on his phone. He said, no, it's a short week. 363 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 1: He gave get to that later. Uh, since it's all 364 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 1: about you, presented by Santan Ford and Gilbert day Passion. 365 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 1: What what has your aftermath been like? Take us through it? 366 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 1: I know Kyler celebrated by going on twitch is twitch channel. 367 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:30,159 Speaker 1: He played call Due to You with some of the 368 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:32,440 Speaker 1: fellas and he streamed that out. He probably went home, 369 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 1: had had a nice glass of San Joe Vaci from Tuscany. 370 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:39,280 Speaker 1: You know, how's it been for you? You might be 371 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 1: right on that last one. Um, it's been It's been neat. 372 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 1: It's a lot of people have reached out, a lot 373 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 1: of fellow play by play announcers that I that I 374 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:51,119 Speaker 1: respect around the country. And you know that's the ultimate 375 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:55,879 Speaker 1: compliment when your peers are sending you texts. Uh, the 376 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 1: funniest one. And I forwarded this to Wolf. Brian Greasy, 377 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:01,879 Speaker 1: who I worked with for a long time and now 378 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 1: the color anals for Monday Night Football, texted me and said, 379 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:09,440 Speaker 1: I've watched the video numerous time. I watched listen to 380 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:12,919 Speaker 1: the audio and watched the video numerous times and watching 381 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 1: you guys in the booth and I can't stop laughing 382 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 1: because it is funny. Like Wolf's reaction my reaction. So 383 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:24,160 Speaker 1: it's I've gotten a lot of different texts from people 384 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 1: and it's just been again I'm just grateful to be 385 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:31,640 Speaker 1: a part of it. It was so much fun. Tell 386 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:36,960 Speaker 1: you what, just the aftermath and just the attention the 387 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 1: Cardinals will received you individually, Wolf, you he made the 388 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 1: Bill Simmons podcast, I know the Cardinals with Blake Shelton, 389 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:47,160 Speaker 1: and the exposure he's received. He did a big interview 390 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 1: in NFL Network and made the Today Show, was on 391 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:52,640 Speaker 1: the front of the Wall Street Journal. It's jumped from 392 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 1: sports into news and really into the American psyche so 393 00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 1: far this week. And I don't know you put a 394 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:00,640 Speaker 1: value on that. But now the Cardinal are going back 395 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:03,960 Speaker 1: into primetime Wolf on Thursday night. I mean, this feels 396 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:06,359 Speaker 1: a lot like some of the other iterations of the 397 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 1: Cardinals that really started garnering some national acclaim. Does it 398 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:12,440 Speaker 1: not very difficult, Paulie, because once again, it's not just 399 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 1: the physical turnaround, right four days, go play another game, 400 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 1: but it's the emotional turnaround. And the Cardinals are coming 401 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:22,920 Speaker 1: off that emotional game against the Bills. I told you 402 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 1: there were MVP chants about Kyler. That's next to the 403 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:33,680 Speaker 1: Big Red Rage. Allen back to throw looking for digs. 404 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:36,160 Speaker 1: It's that steps up, throws deep middle, picked off. Peterson 405 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 1: got that one. He's in his forty yard line, running 406 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 1: the far side of the forty five and down there. 407 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 1: Pat be got Allen that time snapped to Murray and 408 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:46,440 Speaker 1: he's gonna keep it off the loupside. He's in the 409 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:49,920 Speaker 1: ten half of five. Pie's in again. Tyler Murray and 410 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 1: the double figures that rushing touchdown time the season the 411 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 1: Cardinals had the lead. Some more hurry magic, pat State 412 00:22:57,080 --> 00:23:01,879 Speaker 1: Barm Stadium. It's twenty five, twenty three. Harry comes to 413 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 1: save Dave kylour Hey, come for the arms, stay for 414 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:11,639 Speaker 1: the legs. More than ever in year two for Kyler 415 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:14,359 Speaker 1: Murray eight times in nine games he has now thrown 416 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:17,440 Speaker 1: and run for a touchdown. You're some of it right there, 417 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:20,520 Speaker 1: Dave Pash, Ron Wolfley on the call day. Pash is 418 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 1: our special guest and the Big Red Rage presented by 419 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 1: santan Ford and Gilbert. We are satan Ford, Paul Calvic, 420 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:29,120 Speaker 1: Ron Wolfley. Dave Pash, former host of The Big Red 421 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:33,120 Speaker 1: Race CIRCA two thousand and two to two thousand and four, 422 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:36,400 Speaker 1: according to our Jim Almajundro. So i'd be coach Mack, 423 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 1: would it not? If David's actually there? You know what. Sorry, 424 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 1: I'm here. Sorry, I know I'm here, I'm here. Sorry, 425 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:47,960 Speaker 1: hit the wrong button. Yeah, David Guinnis. I remember the 426 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:51,360 Speaker 1: first year doing it with our good friend the late 427 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:56,159 Speaker 1: to Kwami Lasseter. We're at a side table at a 428 00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 1: restaurant called Jillies, and people were looking at us like, 429 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:02,399 Speaker 1: what are those guys do? I had no idea. You know, 430 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:04,159 Speaker 1: it wasn't like a big deal like it is now 431 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 1: when you guys go and Wolf has all those autograph 432 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 1: seekers waiting in a line for hours. I mean well, 433 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 1: Wolf commands his own security, now, I mean socket, that's 434 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 1: the evolution. Speaking of evolution, somebody give me am on 435 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray. And because you know what, last time the 436 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:25,960 Speaker 1: Cardinals played the Seahawks, Russell Wilson was all the rage 437 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:28,960 Speaker 1: and your clubhouse leader in the MVP race. That is 438 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:32,119 Speaker 1: no longer the case after what is it, ten turnovers 439 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:35,879 Speaker 1: in his last four games? Wolf? Yes, So now, Kyler Murray, 440 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 1: what kind of genuine consideration do you think he's getting 441 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:42,199 Speaker 1: a wolf for in this MVP talk. I don't think 442 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 1: there's any doubt about it, PAULI. Right now, if the 443 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals continue to win, Kyler Murray is going to 444 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 1: be right there, right there for the MVP. And the 445 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 1: reason why I say that is, stop and think about 446 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:56,399 Speaker 1: some of the plays that he's already made this season, 447 00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 1: not only with his arm, but with his legs. Guys, 448 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,720 Speaker 1: I you know we're talking about this, and I know 449 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson is a great quarterback, and I love the kid, 450 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:09,120 Speaker 1: and I love watching Lamar Jackson play. I know Pat 451 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:13,399 Speaker 1: Mahomes is, Oh my goodness, Patrick Mahomes, you're off the hook. 452 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers the same thing. But even Russell Wilson throw 453 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 1: all those guys together, I know how good they are, 454 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:23,920 Speaker 1: but they're not They're not as explosive as Kyler Murray. 455 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:26,200 Speaker 1: Stop and think about that. That is a weird thing 456 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:28,920 Speaker 1: for me to say when you when you talk about 457 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 1: his legs and you talk about his arm. He's the 458 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 1: most explosive, entertaining player in the National Football League. And 459 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 1: if the Cardinals continue to win games, yeah, he's gonna 460 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 1: win it. Well, Dave, you said sat on the broadcast Dave. 461 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 1: You said it right. No quarterback has ever thrown for 462 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 1: four thousand yards and run for a thousand yards in 463 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 1: the same season, right right, He's going to do that. 464 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:56,160 Speaker 1: He's already had a historic season in terms of running 465 00:25:56,160 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 1: the football as a quarterback. I think Patrick Mahomes. It's 466 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 1: going to be tough to take down Mahomes if Kansas 467 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 1: City continues to win. One concern that I have is 468 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:09,919 Speaker 1: you look at Russell Wilson the last couple of games. 469 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:13,359 Speaker 1: He's had to do way too much. He doesn't have 470 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:16,119 Speaker 1: a good defense. A lot of his weapons have not 471 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:19,560 Speaker 1: been available, so at some point you're going to have 472 00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:23,119 Speaker 1: a bad game or two, which Russell has had. And 473 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:25,359 Speaker 1: I worry a little bit with all the injuries the 474 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 1: Cardinals have had on defense, They're just hanging on right now. 475 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 1: They've had so many guys go down. Vance Joseph to me, 476 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:34,920 Speaker 1: has done an excellent job this year given what he's 477 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 1: had to work with. I mean, three healthy defensive linemen 478 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 1: right now, and none of them are with the team 479 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:41,600 Speaker 1: in training camps. I think about that for a second. 480 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:44,520 Speaker 1: So I just wonder for not just Kyler, but for 481 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:47,200 Speaker 1: the Cardinals as a team. Can they keep this up 482 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:51,159 Speaker 1: with all these guys going down, and then obviously the 483 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 1: unknown is COVID. I mean, how can that impact not 484 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 1: just the Cardinals, but the playoff race, the MVP race, 485 00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:00,719 Speaker 1: who wins the Super Bowl. They're still of that unknown 486 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 1: out there with with the COVID spikes. Right now, the 487 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:07,239 Speaker 1: Cardinals are number one in total offense, most yards per 488 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:09,880 Speaker 1: game four twenty five, number one in rushing yards, number 489 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 1: one in rushing touchdowns, number six in scoring. Seattle's number 490 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 1: one in scoring right now, and Russell Wilson despite the 491 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:19,800 Speaker 1: fact he has thirteen turnovers, which by the way, is 492 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 1: tied with Daniel Jones right now for most for second 493 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:26,640 Speaker 1: most turnovers behind sixteen from Carson Wentz. Wow, there's gonna 494 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:28,680 Speaker 1: be a lot of talk on Thursday night in prime 495 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 1: time about Kyler Murray and they're gonna drop MVP in there. 496 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:35,679 Speaker 1: Here's Kyler being asked that question today. I haven't done anything, 497 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 1: so as far as the MVP deal, I'm not even 498 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:40,119 Speaker 1: really worried about that. I just I was as far 499 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 1: as my personal confidence, do I do I believe that 500 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:45,240 Speaker 1: I'm one of the best in the in the league. Yeah, 501 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:47,399 Speaker 1: of course, I mean I think anybody should be confident himself. 502 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:49,200 Speaker 1: So you know, I just I just try to go 503 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:51,239 Speaker 1: out and you know, leave my team to a win. 504 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 1: I said that, you know, the individual goals come as 505 00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:56,960 Speaker 1: uh if you win. And Dave for all the numbers 506 00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 1: we can cite and the fact that they're at or 507 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:01,959 Speaker 1: near the top in so many different categories on offense, 508 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:04,960 Speaker 1: how close have they've been to really having that true 509 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 1: breakout game where from beginning to end, Wow, they're really 510 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 1: in gear. I mean that has not happened yet. Now, 511 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:16,399 Speaker 1: you're right, they have not had that perfect game, and 512 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:19,440 Speaker 1: it's really rare that you had that perfect game. But 513 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 1: it feels like they haven't had the near perfect game 514 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 1: right even this past week against Buffalo. I mean for 515 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 1: a long time they struggled two goal to go situations 516 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:31,960 Speaker 1: where they had to settle for field goals. Look, you're 517 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 1: not going to have the perfect offensive showing. But I 518 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:39,280 Speaker 1: do feel they're still room to grow and they're scratching 519 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 1: the surface. There's still a groove that DeAndre Hopkins and 520 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray haven't even hit yet. In my opinion, the 521 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 1: run game, there's still times where you're like, Okay, there's 522 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:55,240 Speaker 1: another gear that that run game can go to. So 523 00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 1: I'm excited though that you know, they're healthy for the 524 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:01,760 Speaker 1: most part on that side of the ball, and that 525 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:05,280 Speaker 1: there's still time for this group to grow and mesh 526 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 1: as we get closer to the end of the season. 527 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 1: Once again, guys, we've been talking about this now, We've 528 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 1: been talking about it for weeks, all the yards that 529 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 1: the Cardinals offense have left on the field, and yet 530 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 1: here they are the number one offense of the National 531 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 1: Football League, number four in terms of yards per play, 532 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:27,640 Speaker 1: which is a big metric, as well, number one in 533 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 1: terms of first downs, the number one team at generating 534 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:34,800 Speaker 1: first downs and the National Football Is that an important 535 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:38,880 Speaker 1: metric ball to actually get first downs? Movie Chains, yea. 536 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 1: And yet we're sitting here going they have left some 537 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:46,920 Speaker 1: yards out on the field. They have not turned in 538 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:50,280 Speaker 1: that perfect game by any scratch of the imagination, and 539 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:54,960 Speaker 1: yet they are dominating. ESPN analyst Marcus Spears today called 540 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray the toughest guard in the NFL, meaning the 541 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:00,959 Speaker 1: toughest matchup almost like an NBA parlance in the way 542 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 1: he described him, and trying to match up against him. 543 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:05,240 Speaker 1: We continue a day patch in the Big Red Rage. Next, 544 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:11,720 Speaker 1: each team of the time out, a minute four to 545 00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 1: go in a tie game here and overtime thirty four piece, 546 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,440 Speaker 1: Gotta get a stop here, third and fourteen flake'clock at 547 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 1: one snapped to Wilson, quicker over the middle, picked off 548 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:23,040 Speaker 1: HiT's intercepting at the forty yard line. Isaiah Simmons has 549 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 1: it running far side of the forty five pot of 550 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:29,920 Speaker 1: bounds the fifty yard line, fifty seven seconds line. Pardinals 551 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,600 Speaker 1: have the ball man and time out. The rookie made 552 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:37,480 Speaker 1: of playing Isaiah Simmons is right there with the sweethends 553 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:41,479 Speaker 1: want to catch by Isaiah Simmons. That was Sunday night 554 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:44,800 Speaker 1: against the Seahawks at State Farm Stadium when Russell Wilson 555 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:48,000 Speaker 1: entered with three picks in five games. Cardinals had three 556 00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 1: picks in that single game, including Isaiah Simmons in overtime, 557 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 1: and that set up the game winner, and Russell Wilson 558 00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 1: really has not been the same ever since. It is 559 00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 1: the Big Red Rage presented by Sam and tan Ford 560 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:03,480 Speaker 1: and Gilbert Paul kelvc Ron Wolfley and the Voice of 561 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals, our special guest day Pass on Board 562 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 1: and Davondre Campbell. Guys, I can't get to the whole 563 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,440 Speaker 1: injury report. Oh my goodness for both teams. It's only 564 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 1: an hour show. Devondre Campbell did not go today. So 565 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:19,040 Speaker 1: Isaiah Simmons got a lot of words of praise and vance. 566 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:21,600 Speaker 1: Joseph will hear from him in a minute. But Wolf, 567 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:24,480 Speaker 1: real quick, give us your thoughts on some increased playing 568 00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 1: time for number forty eight, right, the top ten rookie, 569 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:30,080 Speaker 1: and how he's looked as of late. Yeah, Paul, you know, 570 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,040 Speaker 1: and I've seen him stick his face into the fire, 571 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,000 Speaker 1: and you know that's what I want to see Isaiah 572 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 1: Simmons do. He's got all sorts of athleticism. He is 573 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:41,640 Speaker 1: dripping with talent. He's got great hands. He can make 574 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:44,040 Speaker 1: all the finesse plays you want a guy to be 575 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 1: able to make at that week side inside linebacker. But now, 576 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:50,480 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, he's got to develop that physicality, 577 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:55,120 Speaker 1: that attitude in that physicality to be a tackle machine 578 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 1: and be physical at the point of attack. And if 579 00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:00,240 Speaker 1: he does that, he makes a transition in the only 580 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:02,640 Speaker 1: way we're going to get that transition from him is 581 00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:05,000 Speaker 1: for him to get experience. He's going to be a 582 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:07,520 Speaker 1: great player. Well, it looks like it's coming Dave on 583 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:09,920 Speaker 1: Thursday night and listen to what Advanced Joseph had to 584 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:12,880 Speaker 1: say about Isaiah Simmons today. It's been impressive. You know, 585 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:14,720 Speaker 1: it's been two weeks in a row where he's playing 586 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:17,640 Speaker 1: like an NFL linebacker. He's playing some nickel, he's covering receivers. 587 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:19,960 Speaker 1: So he is becoming what we thought he was going 588 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 1: to be when he was drafted in the top ten. 589 00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 1: And we've got to, uh, you know, you know, play 590 00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:26,680 Speaker 1: him more because he can help us win and as 591 00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:28,960 Speaker 1: we want from Isaiah. And he's been patient enough to 592 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:32,640 Speaker 1: wait his term, but his time and he said later 593 00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:35,160 Speaker 1: David said, you know what, the NFL is not college 594 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:37,240 Speaker 1: and he's very adamant about that. He said, there's no 595 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:39,640 Speaker 1: off season. This is not the college game. You have 596 00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:45,240 Speaker 1: to learn the NFL game. Yeah. I really think not 597 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:49,760 Speaker 1: having training camp and preseason games really hurt Isaiah Simmons 598 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:53,120 Speaker 1: because at Clemson, and actually have Clemson this week and 599 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,880 Speaker 1: I'm looking at their defense and all the guys they 600 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:59,240 Speaker 1: lost and kind of how they do things defensively. I 601 00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:01,360 Speaker 1: think back to watching him a couple of times in 602 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,800 Speaker 1: person last year. He was all over the field where 603 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:08,560 Speaker 1: with the Cardinals for the most part, they're saying, here, 604 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:11,520 Speaker 1: this is what exactly you want you to do every down, 605 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:15,400 Speaker 1: and so he's hyper focused in one area as opposed 606 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:17,760 Speaker 1: to Clemson, where he was the best athlete on the field. 607 00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:20,200 Speaker 1: They could put him anywhere, and I think it's taken 608 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:23,880 Speaker 1: him some time to learn to just be a linebacker 609 00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:26,360 Speaker 1: and to be an NFL linebacker. Things are moving way 610 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:29,280 Speaker 1: too fast form early on, but it looks like things 611 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:33,840 Speaker 1: are slowing down. You see that when he's making tackles 612 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,600 Speaker 1: or he's in the vicinity where a pass is thrown, 613 00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:39,120 Speaker 1: either he gets the breakup or he's on the offensive 614 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:43,360 Speaker 1: player and he's being more physical. So I liked what 615 00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 1: I've seen. I think the interception just gave him some confidence, like, 616 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:49,080 Speaker 1: hey this I belong. I was trafted this high for 617 00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:52,200 Speaker 1: a reason. I'm really talented. So I hope he goes 618 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,640 Speaker 1: out in plays great because with all the injuries, the 619 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:57,320 Speaker 1: Cardinals have had to get where they want to go, 620 00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:01,000 Speaker 1: where everybody wants to get to in this league, you 621 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:04,560 Speaker 1: need your first round picks to play great, especially in 622 00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:07,760 Speaker 1: a year where you've got injuries and guys out with COVID. 623 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:11,840 Speaker 1: I think Isaiah Simmons could be an X factor for 624 00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:14,360 Speaker 1: this team down the stretch and you know, advanced Joseph, 625 00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:17,000 Speaker 1: that's spot on. He also said that he sees in 626 00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:19,759 Speaker 1: Isaiah Simmons more certainty that before he's a little bit 627 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,320 Speaker 1: unsure of himself and now because he's sure of what 628 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,799 Speaker 1: he's doing and he feels more confident, you can see 629 00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:27,040 Speaker 1: the speed out there and he's able to play fast. 630 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,719 Speaker 1: He said, even around the guys. His personality is such 631 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:32,440 Speaker 1: he's coming out of his shell. He's smiling and joking. 632 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:35,319 Speaker 1: More So, if he gets the bulk of the reps 633 00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:38,560 Speaker 1: wolf on Thursday night at Seattle, you know what, there 634 00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:41,480 Speaker 1: might be a national TV audience to see coming out 635 00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:45,360 Speaker 1: party for Isaiah Simmons. Absolutely Bally, honestly, listen, you know 636 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:47,960 Speaker 1: what's amazing about this. I think back to the first 637 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:51,000 Speaker 1: Seattle game and think about it. The Seahawks had a 638 00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:53,440 Speaker 1: twenty seven seventeen lead at the half, and then the 639 00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:57,279 Speaker 1: Cardinals defense only gave up one touchdown over the next 640 00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:04,839 Speaker 1: six Seahawks possessions. It went punt interception, touchdown, punt punt interception. 641 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:07,520 Speaker 1: I mean, think about that. In this second half that 642 00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:12,640 Speaker 1: went into overtime, the six Seahawks possessions man and they 643 00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:15,080 Speaker 1: shut him down, and they played a lot of blitz bail, 644 00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:17,719 Speaker 1: which is where you got six guys standing on the 645 00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:20,560 Speaker 1: line of scrimmage and they're all gonna blitz, or five 646 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:23,040 Speaker 1: of them are gonna come after or four, or you're 647 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:26,000 Speaker 1: gonna bail two guys out. I mean, you're trying to 648 00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:30,399 Speaker 1: confuse the protection scheme of the Seahawks. Or they had 649 00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:34,280 Speaker 1: to zero or not to zero, that is the question. 650 00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:37,160 Speaker 1: And it was Isaiah Simmons where you were gonna bring 651 00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:40,920 Speaker 1: everybody after Russell Wilson and play man across the board, 652 00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:44,800 Speaker 1: or you were gonna bail or some combination thereof. And 653 00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:49,680 Speaker 1: Isaiah Simmons was the guy that bailed in the instinct 654 00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:53,200 Speaker 1: that he showed on going to the slot and picking 655 00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:57,880 Speaker 1: off Russell Wilson. It's it just shows you how talented 656 00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,480 Speaker 1: this kid is when it comes to the burn and 657 00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:03,600 Speaker 1: when it comes to his mentality. All he needs is 658 00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:07,680 Speaker 1: time and experience to absorb the pro game because it's 659 00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:10,879 Speaker 1: chess compared to checkers. And what's amazing is I saw 660 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:12,920 Speaker 1: dan Orloski earlier today. I looked up at the screen. 661 00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:14,480 Speaker 1: He was doing a big breakdown as some of the 662 00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:18,440 Speaker 1: Rams Seahawks game film and how Russell Wilson repeatedly struggled 663 00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:22,400 Speaker 1: against some of the exotic blitz packages that Vance Joseph 664 00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:25,200 Speaker 1: had used in the second half and over time, and 665 00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:27,279 Speaker 1: that whether it's because it doesn't have a run game 666 00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:29,840 Speaker 1: at his disposal, he was the leading rusher Russell Wilson 667 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,480 Speaker 1: was against the Rams. Now he's gonna have Carlos hide Back. 668 00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:35,760 Speaker 1: He practiced in full today. Maybe Chris Carson, he was limited. 669 00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:38,000 Speaker 1: Those guys have missed the last few games. But but 670 00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:40,160 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson has been freaked out a little bit. Hard 671 00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:42,960 Speaker 1: to believe such a grizzled veteran. And the challenge for 672 00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:45,360 Speaker 1: the Cardinals now is they're not gonna have Corey Peters 673 00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:48,040 Speaker 1: most likely. And here's Vance Joseph talking about the loss 674 00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:50,480 Speaker 1: of their nose tackle their first Seattle game. You know, 675 00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:52,759 Speaker 1: it wasn't going well for us in the first half, 676 00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:55,239 Speaker 1: and at halftime Corey kind of, you know, pulled the 677 00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:57,120 Speaker 1: guys together and kind of got him back on track. 678 00:36:57,360 --> 00:36:59,800 Speaker 1: You know, I mean, he is the veteran in the room, dads, 679 00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:03,319 Speaker 1: that's the coming voice. You know, outside of playing really 680 00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:05,480 Speaker 1: good football this year and last year for us, so 681 00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:07,960 Speaker 1: you know, it's he's going to be missed obviously as 682 00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:11,080 Speaker 1: a football player, any leader. I mean, Dave, what's sort 683 00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:12,640 Speaker 1: of concern do you have? At some point, you hope 684 00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:14,759 Speaker 1: to have Jordan Phillips back real soon, Lucky foe to 685 00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:17,040 Speaker 1: Richard Lawrence. But at this point you're looking at you know, 686 00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:21,279 Speaker 1: Trevon Coley and Angelo Blackson and Josh Morrow and maybe 687 00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:25,600 Speaker 1: you bring up Michael Dogby at this point. Yeah. Again, 688 00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:29,160 Speaker 1: it just you wonder how much longer you can hang 689 00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:33,239 Speaker 1: on defensively with all the injuries you had. And that's 690 00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:35,960 Speaker 1: a big one Corey Peters. It was really important to 691 00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:39,080 Speaker 1: this defense. If it's you know, a season ender, it's 692 00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:41,920 Speaker 1: a tough loss. But when you have a player like 693 00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:45,400 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray, you're not out of it. And it's similar. 694 00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:49,480 Speaker 1: Look Seattle, their defense has not been good all year. 695 00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:53,440 Speaker 1: The biggest issue was Russell Wilson had a run game 696 00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:57,160 Speaker 1: and now now he hasn't, so I think he's had 697 00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:00,800 Speaker 1: way too much on his shoulders. Kyler has other weapons, 698 00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:05,759 Speaker 1: obviously more weapons than Russell Wilson has, so offensively, you 699 00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:09,560 Speaker 1: can still win games as long as you have Kyler Murray. 700 00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:13,239 Speaker 1: Does that mean the defense has to be I said 701 00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:15,480 Speaker 1: this going into the season, guys, I felt that the 702 00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:18,640 Speaker 1: defense was just average. Yeah, the Cardinals would have a 703 00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:21,520 Speaker 1: chance to make the playoffs. They've been better than average, 704 00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:26,360 Speaker 1: much better than average, with not a full set of 705 00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:30,040 Speaker 1: utensils for vance Joseph. So I'm curious to see what 706 00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:33,120 Speaker 1: Vans will do this week against Seattle on a short week. 707 00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:36,719 Speaker 1: But those three guys that played the bulk of the game, 708 00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:39,719 Speaker 1: they did a pretty good job upfront. On Sunday and 709 00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:43,000 Speaker 1: Wolf Dave mentioned just how bad Seattle's defense is dead 710 00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:47,520 Speaker 1: last in total defense. They're twenty eight and scoring. They're 711 00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:50,200 Speaker 1: dead last by a mile and past defense. If the 712 00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:53,040 Speaker 1: Cardinals start clicking through the air, there could be some 713 00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:56,319 Speaker 1: big numbers by this Cardinals offense. Yeah, I would say 714 00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:59,960 Speaker 1: the only thing that that Seattle defense does fairly well 715 00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:03,040 Speaker 1: has actually stopped the run their elite as a matter 716 00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:06,120 Speaker 1: of fact, when it comes to yards per game allowed 717 00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:08,239 Speaker 1: in yards per play. Now again, you could say, well, 718 00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:10,840 Speaker 1: that's because everybody's throwing the ball out of ball. The 719 00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:13,640 Speaker 1: Bills start doing that, and that's and you're right, that's 720 00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:16,279 Speaker 1: exactly what the Bills did. That's what everyone's done. But 721 00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:19,839 Speaker 1: when you have when you're number four in yards per 722 00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:23,560 Speaker 1: play rushing yards per play allowed as well. That tells 723 00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:28,000 Speaker 1: me you're in your gap. You're making good tackles, you're 724 00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:31,240 Speaker 1: making good reads, and you're making plays. There are solid 725 00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:34,080 Speaker 1: rush defense. There not a lead in my opinion, but 726 00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:37,160 Speaker 1: there are solid rush defense. But man, that past defense, 727 00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:42,759 Speaker 1: Katie bar the door because they're bad. Dave. Everyone wants 728 00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:43,680 Speaker 1: to know. Do you get it? Do you get a 729 00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:46,959 Speaker 1: text message from Bill Walden? You know, after the Hail Murray, 730 00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:49,480 Speaker 1: you know we'll get name dropped for us. So what 731 00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:51,399 Speaker 1: was the best name you got a text message from 732 00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:55,239 Speaker 1: after that game? Boy? I got a bunch, but no, 733 00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:57,279 Speaker 1: I did not get one from Bill. I'm not even 734 00:39:57,360 --> 00:40:01,000 Speaker 1: sure he knew that football was being played last Sunday's 735 00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:06,520 Speaker 1: right exactly. He's been in that TP since March eleventh 736 00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:10,840 Speaker 1: and hasn't come out. Hey, Dave, thanks for time on 737 00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:14,479 Speaker 1: your Tuesday night. Appreciate it. You got a Pauli Wolf 738 00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:17,400 Speaker 1: Love you guys. All right, welcome back. Wrap up. This 739 00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:19,920 Speaker 1: edition of Big Red Rage, presented by Santan Ford in 740 00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:29,839 Speaker 1: Gilbert Murray and Shotgun, has the football short set, throws 741 00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:32,719 Speaker 1: at deep ball, left side single coverage and it is 742 00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:35,920 Speaker 1: pulled in by DeAndre Hopkins and he's got a touchdown. 743 00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:39,800 Speaker 1: Just want a throw by Kyler Murray. You want to 744 00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:43,040 Speaker 1: catch by duke to put the Cardinals on the board 745 00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:45,359 Speaker 1: with two thirty nine to go on the first duke 746 00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:49,520 Speaker 1: was one on one, great throw by Kyler Murray, but 747 00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:53,680 Speaker 1: an even better read touchdown. We said it's gonna be 748 00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:57,200 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson or Kyler Murray, whoever plays better, That's who's 749 00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:00,600 Speaker 1: gonna win this game. Snaps to Murray and he himself 750 00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:02,959 Speaker 1: running left, got a defender with him at the five 751 00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:06,240 Speaker 1: breaks to tackle dives. Ball comes out, but he crossed 752 00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:11,319 Speaker 1: the plane. Touchdown Kyler Murray. Somehow Someway found a way 753 00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:17,760 Speaker 1: to get that pig across paid big time play Kyler Murray. 754 00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:23,240 Speaker 1: Cardinals trailed in that game ten nothing, twenty seven fourteen 755 00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:26,320 Speaker 1: thirty four, twenty four. They came back and won on 756 00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:29,600 Speaker 1: Sunday Night Football in overtime thirty seven thirty four. Kyler 757 00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:32,520 Speaker 1: Murray your NFC Offensive Player of the Week. And it's 758 00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:36,120 Speaker 1: the first time ever that Russell Wilson lost a game 759 00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:38,319 Speaker 1: in the regular season when leading by ten or more 760 00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:42,520 Speaker 1: at half. He had been thirty and oh so again, 761 00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:44,120 Speaker 1: Wolf as he wrap up this edition of The Bigger 762 00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:46,480 Speaker 1: at Race presented by Santan Ford and Gilbert. You beat 763 00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:50,440 Speaker 1: Seattle at their own game. Yes, it's how the Cardinals 764 00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:53,960 Speaker 1: have been winning games. That to me is encouraging to 765 00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:56,959 Speaker 1: say the very least. If you're winning the close games 766 00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:59,239 Speaker 1: and you're beating some of these teams that have made 767 00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:02,839 Speaker 1: a habit winning these sort of games, and obviously you've 768 00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:04,480 Speaker 1: taken a big step from a year ago in a 769 00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:06,560 Speaker 1: five win campaign. Yeah, for the most part, it's a 770 00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:09,520 Speaker 1: Doctor Jekyll Mister Hyde team right now. They got to 771 00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:13,239 Speaker 1: get rid of mister Hyde victim Paul right Listen. They've 772 00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:16,600 Speaker 1: played up and down to their competition all year. Every 773 00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:19,920 Speaker 1: team has a personality. I've said this for weeks now, 774 00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:23,520 Speaker 1: and this team's got a personality, right. But to me, 775 00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:26,160 Speaker 1: they've got to take that next step. Man, this is 776 00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:28,319 Speaker 1: a game that I do worry about, and the reason 777 00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:30,440 Speaker 1: why I worry about it is because it's on four 778 00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:34,319 Speaker 1: days rest. For the most part, right, it's a fascinating game. 779 00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:37,680 Speaker 1: The Cardinals, you would imagine, will be desperate, yet at 780 00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:41,160 Speaker 1: the same time you're looking at a very desperate Seattle 781 00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:44,239 Speaker 1: Seahawk team as well. Because they know it's starting to 782 00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:46,440 Speaker 1: fall apart a little bit on the defensive side of 783 00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:49,520 Speaker 1: the ball, and that's impacting Russell Wilson in his play. 784 00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:51,960 Speaker 1: And we know they can't get to the quarterback. They 785 00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,040 Speaker 1: haven't been able to get to the quarterback all year long. 786 00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:57,800 Speaker 1: I mean, they did not sack or hit Kyler Murray 787 00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:01,160 Speaker 1: in that first meeting. If they don't get to Kyla 788 00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:03,399 Speaker 1: Murray at least harass him a little bit, they're done. 789 00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:06,359 Speaker 1: Based on they were without their two starting corners last 790 00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:08,680 Speaker 1: week against the Rams. We'll see what the status of 791 00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:11,359 Speaker 1: those players are come from game night. And then if 792 00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:13,080 Speaker 1: you want to talk about corners, well, if you tell 793 00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:17,319 Speaker 1: me about Patrick Peterson against DK Metcalf, because the analytics 794 00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:20,360 Speaker 1: said that when Pat P was traveling with DK Metcalf, 795 00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:23,320 Speaker 1: he had one catch for six yards. Do the Cardinals 796 00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:25,040 Speaker 1: go right back to that and can they get away 797 00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:27,319 Speaker 1: with that again? Yeah, baby, I think there's no doubt 798 00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:29,040 Speaker 1: to buy it. You go right back to that, right 799 00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:33,680 Speaker 1: that was lockdown at Alcatraz for Pat P. Yeah. But again, 800 00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:36,760 Speaker 1: it's just the duplicity of this game for the Cardinals. 801 00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:39,440 Speaker 1: There they're playing on four day's rest. They just came 802 00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:42,799 Speaker 1: off this emotional win. Would you call that an emotional win? 803 00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:46,080 Speaker 1: That's the definition of an emotional win. Ball against a 804 00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:49,279 Speaker 1: good Buffalo Bills team. And then of course they have 805 00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:52,839 Speaker 1: this aid comfort shelter of knowing that they played well 806 00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:56,040 Speaker 1: up in Seattle. They have done that for years now, 807 00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:59,279 Speaker 1: and they also have beaten the Seattle Seahawks. So there's this. 808 00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:03,120 Speaker 1: I don't know what to expect from the Arizona Cardinals, 809 00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:06,120 Speaker 1: but I do know what to expect from the Seattle Seahawks, 810 00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:10,279 Speaker 1: and that's desperation. And you're right, Cardinals have won four 811 00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:14,080 Speaker 1: of the last five in Seattle. That's pretty good. They 812 00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:15,920 Speaker 1: go up there, it's them against the world. Here's the thing, 813 00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:19,120 Speaker 1: No fans so they've been or not have a repeat 814 00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:22,799 Speaker 1: of Carolina. It's byoe. You got to bring your own energy. Now. 815 00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:25,600 Speaker 1: I'd like the fact it's in primetime on a Thursday night. 816 00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:28,120 Speaker 1: That should guarantee the guys are ready to bring it, 817 00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:31,360 Speaker 1: you know. And then of course you have what's at stake, 818 00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:33,960 Speaker 1: and you're right, well, there could be an emotional letdown, 819 00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:37,880 Speaker 1: or there could just be that natural adrenaline high carrying 820 00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:41,160 Speaker 1: over from that big win in the Hail Murray that 821 00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:44,000 Speaker 1: carries over no doubt into a game four days later. 822 00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:47,319 Speaker 1: We'll see. That's what makes it so intriguing at this point. 823 00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:49,960 Speaker 1: And then of course you have first place on the 824 00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:53,359 Speaker 1: line in the division at Seattle Thursday night. We'll talk 825 00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:56,560 Speaker 1: to you then. Special thanks Jim Almahuna, Cody Fincher, Dave Pash, 826 00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:59,000 Speaker 1: thank you for Ron. We'll play on Paul KELVC. 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