WEBVTT - Freaky Fly-day (with Zeke Nicholson) 0:00:03.320 --> 0:00:05.600 Maybe it's it's the same. It's like the same input 0:00:05.680 --> 0:00:08.639 that or like vibe that drift justin timber like to 0:00:08.680 --> 0:00:11.399 be honest and now for a little while, it's yeah's 0:00:11.480 --> 0:00:14.360 great in one lady, but I just I gotta get 0:00:14.400 --> 0:00:19.759 my yucks man. So it's like, I'm so tired I'm 0:00:19.800 --> 0:00:23.400 doing all this serious pulling other people's titties out. I 0:00:23.480 --> 0:00:27.159 want to be funny. That wasn't the same era, wasn't it. 0:00:27.200 --> 0:00:31.840 That was like, oh yeah, super bulb, the slipping snl J. 0:00:32.640 --> 0:00:35.000 I do like to believe that he pulled Jenny Jackson 0:00:35.120 --> 0:00:37.760 City out and everybody got some upset. He was like, 0:00:37.800 --> 0:00:39.639 I don't know that she was pretty funny. I want 0:00:39.640 --> 0:00:41.800 to explore this. I want to see what else I 0:00:41.800 --> 0:01:02.160 can do that makes people like racist, honey, holitary stuff. 0:01:03.600 --> 0:01:08.959 Can't tell me Yep, yep, yep, there it is. There 0:01:09.000 --> 0:01:13.880 it is. Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to another phenomenal episode 0:01:13.880 --> 0:01:17.920 of My Mama Told Me, the podcast where we dive deep, 0:01:18.440 --> 0:01:21.320 deep into the pockets of black conspiracy theories and we 0:01:21.480 --> 0:01:24.880 finally work to prove that if we're finally going to 0:01:25.000 --> 0:01:28.559 defeat Jake Paul, then we're going to need to call 0:01:28.800 --> 0:01:32.520 on Jason de Rulo. That's right. Stop looking to former 0:01:32.600 --> 0:01:36.400 athletes and trained fighters. They don't have the same hatred 0:01:36.440 --> 0:01:39.440 in their heart as a grown man who survived off 0:01:39.480 --> 0:01:42.679 of pretending to be a kitty cat on TikTok. We 0:01:42.760 --> 0:01:46.080 need the de Rulo effect if we're going to overthrow 0:01:46.200 --> 0:01:49.280 Jake Paul's tyranny. These are facts, ladies and gentlemen. I'm 0:01:49.320 --> 0:01:51.880 just I'm just coming at you with cold, hard facts 0:01:51.920 --> 0:01:54.200 at this point. My name is Lankson Kerman. You know me. 0:01:54.280 --> 0:01:59.120 I'm your host of this nonsense podcast. And and what 0:01:59.120 --> 0:02:02.360 what a bit of nonsense have we gathered here today, 0:02:02.480 --> 0:02:07.440 ladies and gentlemen. What a handful of of sillyes incord 0:02:07.720 --> 0:02:10.800 I think that we're gonna unpack today. And my guests today, 0:02:11.240 --> 0:02:16.000 he's hilarious. He's a very talented comedian performer. You know 0:02:16.200 --> 0:02:18.560 him from his work on on ap bio. He was 0:02:18.600 --> 0:02:20.720 a writing on ap bio. He has also been on 0:02:20.760 --> 0:02:24.079 The Good Place, performed on the Good Place. Very funny. 0:02:24.120 --> 0:02:33.320 Please give it up from my guest, Mr Zeke Nicholson. YEA, hell, yeah, 0:02:33.520 --> 0:02:36.320 that's cool. That's nice. That like Yeah, it feels digital, 0:02:36.520 --> 0:02:40.240 a digital warm welcome I'm loving it. Yeah, no, I 0:02:39.800 --> 0:02:42.640 I saw that. Baby. I went to a bunch of 0:02:42.639 --> 0:02:45.800 individuals and said, boo for me. Hell yeah, you know, 0:02:45.880 --> 0:02:48.839 my uncle is an audio engineer. That's literally his job. 0:02:48.880 --> 0:02:51.440 It's like he goes to like outside and it's like, hey, 0:02:51.560 --> 0:02:54.080 like that guy like stirring Man is can I record 0:02:54.120 --> 0:03:00.560 that later? That's like truly his job. So I appreciate you, uh, 0:03:00.600 --> 0:03:04.239 good for him that he has a job that that 0:03:04.400 --> 0:03:07.919 I think deserves to be treated like a very creepy thing, 0:03:08.000 --> 0:03:11.960 but then also then become super helpful to everything in 0:03:11.960 --> 0:03:16.239 in Hollywood. That's it. Somebody's got to get that stern 0:03:16.320 --> 0:03:19.720 mayonnaise down and and you've gotta be a hero to 0:03:19.840 --> 0:03:22.600 walk up to another human being and be like, are 0:03:22.639 --> 0:03:25.680 you stern mayonnaise? Let me let me put a microphone 0:03:25.720 --> 0:03:31.600 next to day show. Well, thank you for having you here. 0:03:32.000 --> 0:03:35.400 I'm excited you're here. You came to us with a 0:03:35.480 --> 0:03:40.920 conspiracy theory that that I wouldn't necessarily uh immediately associate 0:03:41.000 --> 0:03:47.240 with the black community. But that said, is not necessarily 0:03:47.760 --> 0:03:50.400 not black. Like it feels like some ship that that 0:03:50.680 --> 0:03:56.280 somebody's black ass family member would have suggested, And everybody 0:03:56.360 --> 0:03:58.320 was like, yeah, I could see it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:03:58.360 --> 0:04:01.600 I feel it. But you said, my mama told me 0:04:04.000 --> 0:04:09.160 aliens were involved in the disappearance of the Malaysian Airlines flight. 0:04:13.160 --> 0:04:16.760 That's right, yeah, And to be perfectly accurate, it's not 0:04:16.800 --> 0:04:19.359 so much my mama told me, but rather like my 0:04:19.560 --> 0:04:25.120 wild ass cousin Michael told me, yes, MH. Three seventy, 0:04:25.240 --> 0:04:30.279 as it's known in the community, taken by aliens in 0:04:30.400 --> 0:04:32.279 what I guess is just like a rip off of 0:04:32.279 --> 0:04:35.880 the Bermuda Triangle. Like it's not, it's not it's not 0:04:35.920 --> 0:04:41.240 even a new point of view on airplanes disappearing, you know, right, right, 0:04:41.279 --> 0:04:45.440 because that was essentially the whole although it was. And 0:04:45.839 --> 0:04:48.560 break this down for me, because I think I always 0:04:48.640 --> 0:04:52.280 understood the Bermuda Triangle is more of like a Devil's 0:04:52.480 --> 0:04:56.240 Land kind of vibes, where like planes were disappearing because 0:04:56.680 --> 0:05:01.800 because God couldn't cross that area. You your understanding is 0:05:01.800 --> 0:05:05.920 that it's more like alien associated I yes, I remember 0:05:06.000 --> 0:05:08.279 very clearly being in sixth grade and hearing about the 0:05:08.320 --> 0:05:11.719 Bermuda Triangle and for the first time understanding that it 0:05:11.800 --> 0:05:15.440 was like maybe a portal to outer space and that 0:05:16.880 --> 0:05:20.440 had been like flown to another planet. Essentially, Oh, that's 0:05:20.880 --> 0:05:24.480 that's actually kind of cool. Yeah. I had heard portal, 0:05:24.560 --> 0:05:28.720 but I heard to hell is is what that triangle 0:05:28.800 --> 0:05:32.800 was darker? And probably to be fair, I grew up 0:05:32.800 --> 0:05:35.440 in a very white place in upstate New York with 0:05:35.480 --> 0:05:39.880 a lot of white people's version of that. White people aliens, 0:05:40.120 --> 0:05:45.640 black people help. We all got portals? Are portals like 0:05:45.880 --> 0:05:49.080 is different? White people's portals be like this, but black 0:05:49.080 --> 0:05:53.119 people's portals be like this. Yeah we get it. Hell yeah, 0:05:53.360 --> 0:05:55.520 um but yeah, So my cousin Michael, I remember, we 0:05:55.520 --> 0:05:59.680 were like, uh, they live in Arizona, and he sorry, 0:05:59.680 --> 0:06:01.920 like most of my black family lives in Arizona, and 0:06:01.960 --> 0:06:04.159 I had gone into a couple of family reunions out there, 0:06:04.440 --> 0:06:06.200 and this one time we were at this reunion and 0:06:06.240 --> 0:06:08.360 he was telling me like, Yo, he's like this kind 0:06:08.400 --> 0:06:10.960 of like heavy set, like really like one of those dudes. 0:06:11.040 --> 0:06:15.080 His eyes don't open all the way. It's like maybe 0:06:15.080 --> 0:06:17.360 because he's always drunk and high, but also I feel 0:06:17.360 --> 0:06:19.080 like even when he wakes up in the morning, it's 0:06:19.080 --> 0:06:21.560 like he's like speaking through half slits. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. 0:06:21.600 --> 0:06:25.320 If you if you smoke and drink enough, it becomes 0:06:25.640 --> 0:06:30.000 who you are, right your body does, it adjusts it 0:06:29.760 --> 0:06:33.279 it turns into the person that that you've always wanted 0:06:33.320 --> 0:06:36.280 to be. Yes, totally. I remember the first time I 0:06:36.440 --> 0:06:39.120 met Michael, I was actually an adult, and he was like, hey, man, 0:06:39.480 --> 0:06:41.839 I remember I see you since he was a baby. 0:06:43.000 --> 0:06:45.960 He's like, and that's very much his vibe. So yeah, 0:06:46.040 --> 0:06:48.560 one time he he had told me, he was like, yo, 0:06:49.160 --> 0:06:51.240 you know they don't they don't say this on the news, 0:06:51.320 --> 0:06:56.200 but Malaysia Airlines Black three seventies was adopted by aliens. 0:06:56.560 --> 0:06:59.200 He's I don't want to tell you remember this very specifically. 0:06:59.200 --> 0:07:02.479 He kept like trying to use the word obliterated, but 0:07:02.600 --> 0:07:08.520 instead he would say obliberated. No. It was like, man, 0:07:08.600 --> 0:07:11.520 the flight tried to tell me that the flight obliberated, 0:07:11.640 --> 0:07:15.400 and it was talked about aliens. I swear, I swear. 0:07:15.600 --> 0:07:18.120 And this went on and on about how MH three 0:07:18.160 --> 0:07:21.040 seventy had not been obliberated, it had been abduct Like Michael, 0:07:21.120 --> 0:07:24.080 they didn't say it got obliberated. I assure you, that's 0:07:24.120 --> 0:07:25.800 not what they're trying to tell you. And if you 0:07:25.920 --> 0:07:30.560 listen more carefully, we we solved this problem. That's that's 0:07:30.600 --> 0:07:34.800 so fascinating. So I guess this this This covers a 0:07:34.840 --> 0:07:38.080 couple of things because Michael tells you this and he's 0:07:38.120 --> 0:07:41.600 saying that it got obliterated, and I don't know that 0:07:41.760 --> 0:07:45.560 I've heard that either, right that, Like, I think that 0:07:45.720 --> 0:07:47.920 for the longest it was just like a crash. We 0:07:47.960 --> 0:07:51.360 don't know where it crashed, and we're just looking for 0:07:51.360 --> 0:07:55.440 for any evidence of where they actually happened. But he's saying, like, no, 0:07:55.680 --> 0:07:59.680 that ship got turned to fucking dust. So it was like, 0:08:00.040 --> 0:08:02.000 because I do remember there was some discussion like had 0:08:02.080 --> 0:08:04.080 it been shot out of the sky, like was this 0:08:04.120 --> 0:08:06.920 a military thing? And so I guess he was running 0:08:06.960 --> 0:08:09.200 contrary to like he was like, I'm not going to 0:08:09.280 --> 0:08:11.800 take the main conspiracy theory. I'm gonna take it like 0:08:11.880 --> 0:08:15.760 even crazier conspiracy theory because even that it was like, yes, 0:08:15.880 --> 0:08:18.320 it seems probably like it was some sort of accident 0:08:18.880 --> 0:08:21.520 and then it went down in an uncharted pocket of 0:08:21.520 --> 0:08:25.000 the ocean. Yes, but yeah, he was like no, no, no, no, 0:08:25.080 --> 0:08:27.920 it wasn't. It wasn't the Russians, it wasn't the US government. 0:08:29.480 --> 0:08:32.559 It was aliens that have ducked the place. He side 0:08:32.559 --> 0:08:38.280 note probably loves Manifest on NBC right up his alley. 0:08:40.120 --> 0:08:42.880 I love that as just a side note. Side note, 0:08:43.200 --> 0:08:45.640 This guy loves manifest so I don't know what that 0:08:45.640 --> 0:08:48.679 means to you and your listeners, but just take that 0:08:48.840 --> 0:08:51.760 and run with it. That's right, um, And not to 0:08:51.800 --> 0:08:53.840 throw too much at the kitchen saint, but I feel 0:08:53.840 --> 0:08:56.319 like it's relevant to the story. Also, yeah, this was 0:08:56.360 --> 0:08:59.520 like a two full conspiracy theory. One part of it 0:08:59.600 --> 0:09:02.280 was that the m H three seventy had been abducted 0:09:02.280 --> 0:09:04.559 by aliens, but somehow it was also coupled with the 0:09:04.679 --> 0:09:10.280 fact that mermaids were living under Greenland Okay, way a 0:09:10.360 --> 0:09:14.200 goddamn second, Zeke, I'm listen. I was here with you. 0:09:14.640 --> 0:09:17.200 I knew where we were going in this conversation, and 0:09:17.240 --> 0:09:20.800 then sorry, this additional thing got added and it sort 0:09:20.800 --> 0:09:24.400 of is, uh, you really put some syrup on my spaghetti. 0:09:24.440 --> 0:09:27.120 And I'm trying to understand the connection here, but help 0:09:27.160 --> 0:09:29.800 me out. I honestly don't think it's like there's any 0:09:29.920 --> 0:09:32.840 real content connection. But what I did a little bit 0:09:32.840 --> 0:09:35.640 of research after this conversation be what what the fun 0:09:35.800 --> 0:09:38.720 was this about? And it turned out that Animal Planet 0:09:39.000 --> 0:09:45.320 had aired a fake documentary about mere people living in 0:09:45.400 --> 0:09:48.520 the Greenland Sea. So I think that Michael had just 0:09:48.559 --> 0:09:52.880 seen this and let's take a genuine news report or 0:09:52.960 --> 0:09:54.760 maybe it was like on YouTube or something, but yeah, 0:09:54.760 --> 0:09:57.800 he he took this, he input in this information as 0:09:57.840 --> 0:10:00.840 being genuine that in his mind it was all connected 0:10:00.880 --> 0:10:03.559 to like the image through seventy of the people under Greenland. 0:10:03.559 --> 0:10:06.360 It's like everyone's lying to you. You know, it's going 0:10:06.400 --> 0:10:08.199 down that people don't want to talk about. That's so 0:10:08.320 --> 0:10:11.520 interesting to me because I do think and I I've 0:10:11.600 --> 0:10:14.280 never seen this documentary nor heard of it, and maybe 0:10:14.400 --> 0:10:16.760 it exists, maybe it doesn't, but I do think that 0:10:16.960 --> 0:10:21.520 in terms of it being a Discovery Channel documentary. But 0:10:21.640 --> 0:10:26.440 I will say that that is the danger of these 0:10:26.440 --> 0:10:34.360 sort of like reputable spaces suddenly doing non reputable things. Right, 0:10:34.440 --> 0:10:37.959 Like we see it all the time. We're like CNN 0:10:38.440 --> 0:10:42.320 will have like they're they're sort of like not Newsy 0:10:42.559 --> 0:10:46.160 guy come and do an expose on his opinion about 0:10:46.160 --> 0:10:49.720 a thing, and then suddenly it opens a space for 0:10:49.800 --> 0:10:52.640 a bunch of dumb people to treat. Not to say, 0:10:52.679 --> 0:10:55.360 your cousin's dumb. He seems like a very bright young man, 0:10:56.920 --> 0:10:59.680 a strong future in front of Michael. I think it's 0:10:59.679 --> 0:11:05.880 definitely he had a bright future. And now he's he's 0:11:05.960 --> 0:11:09.360 living it, you know. But that said, I think it 0:11:09.600 --> 0:11:12.320 leaves a space for someone like Michael to be like, yo, 0:11:12.679 --> 0:11:18.079 if that is true, what else is true? Yeah, which 0:11:18.360 --> 0:11:22.280 is a good perspective when it comes to comedy, right, Yes, 0:11:22.640 --> 0:11:25.200 got it, he's got it down, your man can the 0:11:25.240 --> 0:11:27.600 man sounds like he can improv with the best up. 0:11:29.520 --> 0:11:31.080 But yeah, it is that, and I think it's like 0:11:31.160 --> 0:11:35.360 it's also those those reputable news pieces like dipping into 0:11:36.040 --> 0:11:38.360 comedy frankly, like they're trying to be like, look at 0:11:38.360 --> 0:11:41.840 this winky funny thing we're doing, and they don't see 0:11:41.840 --> 0:11:44.360 the damage and I grew that they're creating. And fuck you, 0:11:44.440 --> 0:11:47.080 wolf Blitzer. You don't get to try to make me 0:11:47.240 --> 0:11:50.679 laughing pieces of ship. Just give me the news stick 0:11:50.760 --> 0:11:54.440 here late man. It's it's weird it Cuomo used to 0:11:54.480 --> 0:11:57.480 do that ship back before we knew that, uh we knew, 0:11:57.600 --> 0:12:00.319 I think we knew, but before we officially knew that 0:12:00.360 --> 0:12:03.600 he was not a great guy. But like the point, 0:12:03.600 --> 0:12:06.040 the point is like, you don't get to try to 0:12:06.120 --> 0:12:09.440 be a silly billy man like, because you're going to 0:12:09.760 --> 0:12:13.920 undermine silly billy behavior on the back end. So make 0:12:13.960 --> 0:12:16.200 your choice. Either you're a silly billy or you're a 0:12:16.240 --> 0:12:19.840 serious person in media, and we can't keep playing both 0:12:19.880 --> 0:12:23.320 sides of these things, right, So, so Michael tells you 0:12:23.400 --> 0:12:27.920 this that that image three seventy was abducted by aliens. 0:12:28.280 --> 0:12:31.120 What is your response, Because this is a man who 0:12:31.200 --> 0:12:34.160 it sounds like you didn't have like a a super 0:12:34.200 --> 0:12:38.240 tight relationship with but but you see occasionally do you 0:12:38.240 --> 0:12:41.680 do you walk with him down this trail or you like, 0:12:41.920 --> 0:12:45.200 I check off here, my man. I think like my, 0:12:45.960 --> 0:12:48.240 I'm like this with a number of my family members 0:12:48.280 --> 0:12:51.240 who have very strong points of view. I will never 0:12:51.320 --> 0:12:54.719 be like no and sort of divert away. I will 0:12:54.760 --> 0:12:57.920 just sort of like walk alongside them as they monologue 0:12:57.960 --> 0:13:00.000 at me. My father is very much this way too. 0:13:00.120 --> 0:13:02.480 It's like I don't know. And if you're black, friends 0:13:02.520 --> 0:13:04.240 like this that it's like there's a certain level of 0:13:04.320 --> 0:13:08.280 like dialogue is it's not always the most important. It's 0:13:08.280 --> 0:13:10.000 more like, you know, I got this point of view, 0:13:10.040 --> 0:13:12.160 like let me share it with you, and then somebody 0:13:12.160 --> 0:13:14.040 just being like, yes, I also have a second and 0:13:14.120 --> 0:13:16.640 unrelated point of view, and then a lot of people 0:13:16.640 --> 0:13:19.320 just sort of like sharing their opinions. And so yeah, 0:13:19.320 --> 0:13:21.160 when he was telling me this, It was a lot 0:13:21.200 --> 0:13:25.640 of like nodding and being like mmmmmm okay, uh huh yeah, 0:13:25.800 --> 0:13:27.720 just sort of taking it in and being like, I 0:13:27.760 --> 0:13:30.000 don't I don't know where any of this is coming from, 0:13:30.040 --> 0:13:33.680 but I'm with you, man, sure, which to your credit, 0:13:33.800 --> 0:13:36.360 I think, I think it's number one, very noble to 0:13:36.720 --> 0:13:41.520 uh to allow him the space to express himself fully. 0:13:41.679 --> 0:13:43.880 But the other part of it, I I I at 0:13:43.960 --> 0:13:47.600 least personally find is that it's a lot easier and 0:13:47.679 --> 0:13:51.760 maybe healthier to join people in their walk than it 0:13:52.000 --> 0:13:55.520 is to like try to obstruct the walk that they're 0:13:55.559 --> 0:13:57.880 on that lies or at the end of the day, 0:13:57.920 --> 0:14:01.079 whether you agree with him or not, you going and 0:14:01.120 --> 0:14:04.720 trying to refute it is not going to heal him. 0:14:04.760 --> 0:14:07.920 He's made his choice totally. I'm not there to change 0:14:07.960 --> 0:14:11.600 his mind. Yeah, yeah, it's it's and I don't think 0:14:11.640 --> 0:14:14.240 there's anything that I could have said that was really 0:14:14.240 --> 0:14:17.280 going to like he was clearly gleaning some joy from 0:14:17.280 --> 0:14:19.880 this whole experience and trying to take that away from 0:14:19.920 --> 0:14:23.320 him for somebody that I don't see that often, you know, Yeah, 0:14:23.360 --> 0:14:25.160 I want him to believe in magic, you know, he 0:14:25.240 --> 0:14:30.760 deserves that. I want year old man to have all 0:14:30.800 --> 0:14:35.160 the whimsy he wants in his world. Yeah, he deserves that. 0:14:35.600 --> 0:14:37.760 Let me let me ask you this because I think 0:14:37.760 --> 0:14:40.440 this sort of connects to what we were just saying 0:14:40.480 --> 0:14:44.520 about about allowing Michael to have his his magic. I 0:14:44.600 --> 0:14:49.640 wonder if you feel like there's any danger in Michael's 0:14:49.800 --> 0:14:53.760 beliefs in the thing in in this image three seventy 0:14:53.920 --> 0:14:57.000 alien abduction. Is this the thing that that we should 0:14:57.040 --> 0:14:59.280 be concerned about a need to correct or is that 0:14:59.400 --> 0:15:03.560 kind of just the nice sweet conspiracy theory You kiss 0:15:03.640 --> 0:15:05.680 him on the forehead and you go about your business 0:15:05.760 --> 0:15:08.200 kind of Yeah. I guess there's two ways to look 0:15:08.240 --> 0:15:11.720 at it. Like, I think treated as an isolated thing, 0:15:11.920 --> 0:15:15.000 I think it's pretty light and fun and funny, and like, 0:15:15.080 --> 0:15:17.320 I don't think there's a ton of danger coming from that. 0:15:17.400 --> 0:15:19.760 But I think it relates back to what we're saying before. 0:15:19.840 --> 0:15:25.880 It's like genuinely confusing to certain people when when animal 0:15:25.960 --> 0:15:28.240 plan in a place that you go for nature documentaries 0:15:28.400 --> 0:15:31.800 is just as a joke airing fake ship and then 0:15:31.800 --> 0:15:34.200 people were like, wait, so this must be real, and 0:15:34.280 --> 0:15:37.640 like not everyone is as discerning about the media as 0:15:37.720 --> 0:15:43.560 we are. Okay, Okay, wake up man. So yeah, and 0:15:43.600 --> 0:15:45.560 I think it's like, frankly, I do think it ties 0:15:45.600 --> 0:15:48.960 into so much of like what is happening with people 0:15:49.000 --> 0:15:52.440 getting like radicalized on YouTube? Like I think this is 0:15:52.480 --> 0:15:55.760 a really light version of that. So the answer is 0:15:55.800 --> 0:15:58.320 both yes and no. I think to that, to that question, 0:15:58.560 --> 0:16:02.240 that's fair. I it it is. It's fascinating, right because 0:16:02.280 --> 0:16:04.640 a part of me almost wonders if Animal Planet was 0:16:04.680 --> 0:16:08.440 sitting there making this documentary. I like, hey, nobody watching 0:16:08.440 --> 0:16:11.960 this ship this is this is gonna be some three am. 0:16:11.960 --> 0:16:15.200 Our numbers are are super low, the people that are 0:16:15.200 --> 0:16:18.000 on it are probably high and indifferent, and it's just 0:16:18.200 --> 0:16:21.000 this background noise. And then there's one or two people 0:16:21.560 --> 0:16:25.440 that take it seriously enough that suddenly we're in a 0:16:25.480 --> 0:16:29.240 different conversation. Yeah, well this is an incredible tidbit. To 0:16:29.280 --> 0:16:32.520 that point, the two highest rated things ever on Animal 0:16:32.560 --> 0:16:36.400 Planet where Mermaid Documentary Part one and Mermaid Documentary Part 0:16:36.440 --> 0:16:38.600 two Get the funk out of here. To god, it 0:16:38.720 --> 0:16:42.200 just read it in the l a time. WHOA. So 0:16:42.720 --> 0:16:47.480 these people are thinking we're making nonsense for nonsense people 0:16:47.520 --> 0:16:50.000 who like Animal Planet but don't want to pay attention, 0:16:50.000 --> 0:16:53.920 And instead they made fucking gold for their channel. Yeah, 0:16:54.040 --> 0:16:56.320 it was a huge for them, God damn it. So 0:16:56.400 --> 0:16:59.240 now and then that's what makes it scary, right because 0:16:59.280 --> 0:17:04.240 now they probably feel an obligation to match the success 0:17:04.359 --> 0:17:10.080 of Mermaid documentaries one and two exactly. And I do 0:17:10.119 --> 0:17:13.320 think that they've continued to be like, oh yeahdi like whatever, 0:17:13.480 --> 0:17:16.200 like all these you know, paranormal activity things like yeah, 0:17:16.359 --> 0:17:19.160 no fucking way do you air Mermaid one in Mermaid 0:17:19.160 --> 0:17:20.919 to it? It's that big of a hit. And then 0:17:20.960 --> 0:17:27.080 you go back to do elephants feel right? Right? Yeah, 0:17:27.359 --> 0:17:32.160 we didn't know that elephants feel Okay, Time to get 0:17:32.200 --> 0:17:36.400 to the real ship. Can lost communicate? Let's find out 0:17:36.520 --> 0:17:39.080 in an hour expos a funk out of here. We're 0:17:39.080 --> 0:17:42.879 about to talk about a goddamn uh lockness monster for 0:17:42.920 --> 0:17:47.200 the next eight hours exactly. Yeah. Yeah, so I think, like, 0:17:47.840 --> 0:17:49.520 I don't know what's here, Like what's your view on 0:17:49.560 --> 0:17:53.639 the whole YouTube rabbit hole? Changing people's beliefs in the 0:17:53.680 --> 0:17:55.720 algorithms sort of like shoving you into a point of 0:17:55.760 --> 0:17:58.560 view that maybe it was not yours to begin with. Yeah, 0:17:58.600 --> 0:18:02.800 I mean, I I read, I didn't read, I don't read. 0:18:03.359 --> 0:18:09.080 I I listened to this documentary that was like UH 0:18:09.400 --> 0:18:14.440 connected podcast, the documentary thing connected to UH to the 0:18:14.520 --> 0:18:18.240 Daily called The rabbit Hole. Did you listen to that? 0:18:18.320 --> 0:18:22.320 It It explores like this, that one dude's journey from 0:18:22.359 --> 0:18:25.480 going from like a hyper liberal kid to then becoming 0:18:25.600 --> 0:18:30.720 essentially a like super conservative, basically a white supremacist, and 0:18:30.760 --> 0:18:34.639 then once again finding his way back to being like 0:18:34.880 --> 0:18:38.600 super liberal and anti sort of like all the things 0:18:38.640 --> 0:18:41.439 that are Trump is ms. But all of it was 0:18:41.680 --> 0:18:45.919 based on the algorithm that the Internet was feeding him. 0:18:45.960 --> 0:18:50.640 And that to me is terrifying because if there there's 0:18:50.680 --> 0:18:52.560 a part of me that wants to believe I'm so 0:18:52.640 --> 0:18:55.480 much better than a person like that, right that I'm 0:18:55.560 --> 0:18:58.760 not going to be a person that falls into that 0:18:58.760 --> 0:19:02.400 that sort of pocket or into that that dangerous space. 0:19:02.840 --> 0:19:04.840 But then I think, like, there's so much of my 0:19:04.960 --> 0:19:09.320 daily feed that probably is just people repeating back things 0:19:09.400 --> 0:19:12.400 that I want to hear or that would affirm my beliefs, 0:19:12.840 --> 0:19:15.560 and so it's it's terrifying. It's scarce the ship out 0:19:15.560 --> 0:19:17.240 of me. I guess it's the best answer I could 0:19:17.280 --> 0:19:21.080 give you. Yeah, I find it all incredibly interesting, and 0:19:21.080 --> 0:19:23.240 of course I'm not immune to it by any means, 0:19:23.240 --> 0:19:26.760 But like I just think it's such a yeah, just 0:19:27.080 --> 0:19:29.760 that that we are like living through an age in 0:19:29.800 --> 0:19:33.679 which like people's brains are just changing rapidly due to 0:19:33.720 --> 0:19:36.800 a technology that we don't have control over, and like 0:19:37.280 --> 0:19:40.080 and that's not even it sounds like a crazy conspiracy 0:19:40.119 --> 0:19:42.720 theory when you say it, like that is the reality 0:19:42.760 --> 0:19:46.360 of Yeah, and and even scarier, we're not going to 0:19:46.440 --> 0:19:49.520 get control over this ship, you know what I mean? Like, 0:19:49.520 --> 0:19:54.639 like maybe uh is in theory the humanity survives whatever 0:19:55.119 --> 0:19:57.760 horrible ship we're doing to ourselves right now, and we 0:19:57.880 --> 0:20:01.520 make it generations from now, maybe they will be able 0:20:01.560 --> 0:20:04.600 to handle whatever this is. But no one in our 0:20:04.680 --> 0:20:08.720 lifetime is about to just suddenly like break open from 0:20:08.840 --> 0:20:12.760 whatever like a seal we're trapped in and be you know, 0:20:12.960 --> 0:20:16.440 more insightful about all of this stuff. We're just all 0:20:16.480 --> 0:20:20.840 gonna keep falling into the same traps. That's it. Yeah, 0:20:21.000 --> 0:20:24.119 It's also crazy how many people that like running the 0:20:24.600 --> 0:20:28.880 right also went through that exact same cycle where they 0:20:28.880 --> 0:20:30.399 were sort of like kind of like I voted for 0:20:30.440 --> 0:20:33.119 Obama and then I realized that when I posted like 0:20:33.240 --> 0:20:35.040 kind of crazy shit on the internet, it got like 0:20:35.160 --> 0:20:38.680 way more likes, and and then they kept going further 0:20:38.720 --> 0:20:41.919 and further, and they're like, yeah, Yeah. Candice Owens was 0:20:42.240 --> 0:20:46.560 a girl in like her her like undergrad and and 0:20:46.640 --> 0:20:50.840 sort of like younger days, spending her time like representing 0:20:50.920 --> 0:20:54.080 like her her black student union and ship. And then 0:20:54.160 --> 0:20:57.119 at some point she figured out that being a hateful 0:20:57.160 --> 0:21:00.240 big it was more profitable and part of that was 0:21:00.320 --> 0:21:03.040 her getting all that she got, had some lawsuit with 0:21:03.119 --> 0:21:07.600 her university that she she lost or or had challenges with, 0:21:08.000 --> 0:21:10.600 felt like there was nobody supporting her and everybody was 0:21:10.640 --> 0:21:13.520 calling her stupid. So she was like, well, these motherfuckers 0:21:13.520 --> 0:21:16.480 don't call me stupid, they support me. So here I am. 0:21:16.600 --> 0:21:18.840 Now I'm a hyper conservative. And it's not because she 0:21:18.920 --> 0:21:22.159 believes it, or at least at the time believed it. 0:21:22.160 --> 0:21:26.640 It was just a profit. Yeah. So if we see 0:21:26.680 --> 0:21:30.680 Michael at the next JA rally, we know what happened. 0:21:31.720 --> 0:21:34.240 Here's the thing. I do think, at least based on 0:21:34.280 --> 0:21:37.680 what you're describing, Michael's not going there because that's a 0:21:37.760 --> 0:21:40.560 lot of effort for him. Yeah. Well, if he is going, 0:21:40.640 --> 0:21:43.560 he's he feels like a real sideline character to me, 0:21:43.760 --> 0:21:45.480 you know what I mean, Like, there were all those 0:21:45.520 --> 0:21:48.040 people at the January six ships who were like there 0:21:48.080 --> 0:21:50.879 for a different reason, and then stuff started getting buggy 0:21:50.880 --> 0:21:53.560 and they were like, I'm not I'm not running the stairs. 0:21:53.640 --> 0:21:56.639 I just I came to talk about the Mermaids released 0:21:56.640 --> 0:22:00.560 The Mermaids. Joe Biden, he's definitely not the one climbing railing. 0:22:00.680 --> 0:22:02.199 He's the one to be like, man, I should look 0:22:02.240 --> 0:22:07.399 kind of rickety to me. Now see, I want you 0:22:07.440 --> 0:22:10.560 to climb the rail because that's not a brother stayed 0:22:10.560 --> 0:22:14.679 down here with me. Let's get a sandwich. Okay, let 0:22:14.720 --> 0:22:17.000 me ask you this last question before we go to break, 0:22:17.000 --> 0:22:18.479 because I do think this is going to be an 0:22:18.480 --> 0:22:21.400 important one for laying some of the groundwork we've talked 0:22:21.440 --> 0:22:24.800 about sort of like the absurdity of conspiracy theory. But 0:22:24.880 --> 0:22:29.280 I haven't asked you how much you actually believe in aliens, 0:22:29.280 --> 0:22:32.280 Like where are you at in the the alien of 0:22:32.320 --> 0:22:35.679 it all? Yeah, I'm in. I'm in on aliens, like, 0:22:35.840 --> 0:22:41.600 not not in a like immediate or present, not even danger, 0:22:41.720 --> 0:22:45.119 but just like force. Like I don't think they're I 0:22:45.160 --> 0:22:48.359 would be surprised if there was an alien contact in 0:22:48.440 --> 0:22:52.239 my lifetime, but I do believe that it just is 0:22:52.720 --> 0:22:56.480 scientifically improbable given the scope of the universe that other 0:22:56.600 --> 0:23:00.680 sentient life does not exist. Sure, so, so you they 0:23:00.680 --> 0:23:05.280 are not a they're not hanging out here in abducting airlines, 0:23:05.359 --> 0:23:08.320 but they certainly exist out in the universe. I think 0:23:08.359 --> 0:23:10.840 that's right. Yeah, that's where I come down that Well, 0:23:11.000 --> 0:23:15.160 Michael is not going to forget it. It's a much 0:23:15.200 --> 0:23:19.639 less whimsical point of view. You're like, yeah, I guess 0:23:19.760 --> 0:23:24.359 it exists, and he's like, no, motherfucker. Wait up there 0:23:24.480 --> 0:23:32.840 underland with the Mermaids, they're plotting on next Malaysiantion to 0:23:32.960 --> 0:23:37.679 what end? Sorry, just last thing? Want the plane for? Like, 0:23:37.760 --> 0:23:40.360 that's the follow up question of this. It's a it's 0:23:40.359 --> 0:23:44.439 a wonderful question, and I truly don't know, and I 0:23:44.520 --> 0:23:47.760 don't think anything that I've that I've read has answered 0:23:47.800 --> 0:23:52.320