1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,640 Speaker 1: Hello Texans, and welcome to the program. It has been 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: an eventful week of shows in the morning eight to 3 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:09,559 Speaker 1: ten AM on Sports Radio six ten and the Texans 4 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:12,719 Speaker 1: app and of course every night at six as you're 5 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:16,440 Speaker 1: listening right now on Texans All Access and by the way, 6 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 1: Sports Radio six ten is a special show on Saturday 7 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:22,799 Speaker 1: night from the evening practice of the Texans seven to 8 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:25,799 Speaker 1: nine PM. Wanted to turn your attention to that, but 9 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 1: right now, let's turn your attention to this Nick as Sarrio, 10 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 1: who visited with us this morning. There was plenty going on. 11 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 1: Johnny and I took an early stab look a way 12 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 1: to early stab at the fifty three man roster, just 13 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 1: elements of it, and we thought, you know what, let's 14 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 1: just ask the general manager himself about the fifty three 15 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 1: man roster. Nikos Sarrio's here, he'll answer this question. Oh, 16 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 1: he'll definitely. This will be so easy. This is gonna 17 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 1: be so awesome to start the show. People, right out 18 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 1: of the gates, Right out of the gate, Nick, what 19 00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 1: is your fifty three man roster today? I don't answer questions. 20 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:04,400 Speaker 1: I'm not good at answering questions. I mean, that's a 21 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 1: tough you know, we're going over every year. We try 22 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 1: to project these things, and you mentioned you have this 23 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 1: contest with six ten how many transactions you might have 24 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:13,759 Speaker 1: in the time of year right where we are right 25 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:17,040 Speaker 1: now leading up to opening day, but predicting to fifty 26 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 1: three man rosters like the mc DOUAA tournament prediction, like, 27 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:21,120 Speaker 1: no one's ever going to get it right because waiver 28 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 1: wire stuff and injuries or whatever else is going to happen. Right. Absolutely, 29 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 1: you have to stay flexible. Really, you have to work 30 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 1: yourself through training camp and you're going to get more 31 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:31,839 Speaker 1: information along the way each step of the way. So 32 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 1: this week we got more information than we had last week. 33 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 1: So next week is another opportunity for us, a transition 34 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 1: into a game mode, and then we're actually going to 35 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 1: go out there and play. And what you might find 36 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:46,319 Speaker 1: sometimes is based on practice, based on repetitions. A guy 37 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 1: goes in the game, gets an opportunity and does well 38 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 1: for himself. So then you have to evaluate in totality, 39 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 1: and you can't just base it on one single thing. 40 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 1: So again you're looking at everything comprehensively from start to finish, 41 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 1: and again you have to balance off both short term 42 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 1: where you are as a team where you think you 43 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 1: are and then also look ahead a little bit relative 44 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 1: to the overall construction of the team. So it's a 45 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:10,240 Speaker 1: delicate balance and the only way to do it is 46 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:12,919 Speaker 1: just make good decisions and have constant communication, make sure 47 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 1: everybody understands the why behind it. Nick, we were just 48 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 1: talking about the waiver wire. Sitting three on the waiver wire. 49 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 1: How important is that? Kind of is a story. Nobody's 50 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 1: really talked about having that third spot in the waiver 51 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 1: wire to really kind of have first grabs at some 52 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:29,079 Speaker 1: of the guys that get cut in that process from 53 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:31,359 Speaker 1: eighty to fifty three or thirty five to fifty three. 54 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 1: How important is that waiver process? Yeah, it gives you 55 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 1: some flexibility. Again, you have to go through and if 56 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:37,239 Speaker 1: you're going to claim a player, there has to be 57 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 1: a specific reason why you're doing it. So is it 58 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 1: to get him on the team, and knowing he's maybe 59 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 1: not ready to play, you have him here for a 60 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 1: little bits you can evaluate and maybe ends up on 61 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:49,800 Speaker 1: a practice squad. So again, just because you claim a 62 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 1: player doesn't mean like, Okay, he's going to be on 63 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 1: a team and he's gonna play. There might be something 64 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:57,960 Speaker 1: else or another reason that dictates why you make that decision. 65 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:00,359 Speaker 1: But to your question, John, I mean it just gives 66 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 1: you a little bit of flexibility because if there's a 67 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:05,800 Speaker 1: player that you want that you have some conviction on, yeah, 68 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 1: there's a chance, a good chance you'll lind up with 69 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 1: the player. Last time you were on, we asked you 70 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 1: what you're writing down in your notepad. Well, we had 71 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 1: three consecutive days and pads here Nick and David Kelley 72 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 1: talks about whoever makes a play, it's always good for 73 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 1: the Texans and iron sharpening, iron and all of that. 74 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:24,679 Speaker 1: But what did you make of what you saw here 75 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 1: with the three straight days and pads? Yeah, No, the 76 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 1: effort was good, the energy was good, and say the 77 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:32,640 Speaker 1: execution is something that we can improve. We've talked to 78 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 1: the team about consistency because really what you're looking for 79 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 1: is from one day than the next, can you be 80 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 1: consistent with your performance with your assignment doing the right thing? 81 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 1: And I would say, in our particular case, some areas 82 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 1: we can certainly improve pre snap penalties and turnovers on 83 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 1: the offensive side of the ball. So on the defensive 84 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 1: side of the ball, the emphasis has been on turnovers, 85 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 1: which was good, but conversely on the offensive side of 86 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 1: the ball, being more conscious of taking care of the football. 87 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 1: So I would say things that you can control. Again, 88 00:03:57,960 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 1: you talk about playing winning football, you have to eliminate 89 00:03:59,920 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 1: the plays that prevent you from winning. Turnovers and pre 90 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 1: snap penalties or things that you could control. So we 91 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 1: want to look for an improvement. And if you start 92 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 1: to see a pattern of behavior, you either a have 93 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 1: to do something, try to get it fixed, or be 94 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 1: find somebody else that can do it. Nick, with the rookies, 95 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:19,280 Speaker 1: they're basically it's first time they're being adults. Essentially, they 96 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 1: come to camp. Everything's new. I don't know what expectations 97 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 1: are for rookies. But with this rookie class. You watch 98 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 1: the music. Okay, man, they're making a few plays here there. 99 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:31,279 Speaker 1: How is this rookie class meeting any expectation that you 100 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 1: had for them coming into this training camp? What have 101 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:35,479 Speaker 1: you seen from them that you feel like, Okay, like 102 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:37,280 Speaker 1: these things, but and there are some things they really 103 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:39,600 Speaker 1: got to come around, and they will. Their rookies will 104 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 1: get there. But what have you thought as far as 105 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 1: the rookie class, how they've adapted to NFL play thus far. Yeah, 106 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:47,479 Speaker 1: it's a good question. The reality is everything is new. 107 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 1: How we practice, what we do the flow of the day, 108 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:53,279 Speaker 1: So you have to find something that works for you 109 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 1: an individual basis, and we have to try to educate them. 110 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 1: I think the key is to get into a consistent 111 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 1: routine each day and something that you can go back 112 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:03,159 Speaker 1: to say, Okay, at this point in the week, here's 113 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 1: where I should be. But again, with any player, you're 114 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 1: looking for just consistency of performance day to day understanding 115 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:11,720 Speaker 1: you're gonna have some ups and downs and that's football. 116 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 1: But can you self correct? Can you make improvements? Can 117 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 1: you not make the same mistake twice and again? I 118 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 1: think sometimes expectation is kind of a tricky word because 119 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 1: the expectations externally might be different than what your expectations 120 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:29,479 Speaker 1: are internally and your internal expectations are are they making progress, 121 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 1: are they doing the right thing? Are they moving forward 122 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 1: as opposed to going backwards? So not to oversimplify it, 123 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 1: but I'd say that's how we look at it. Well, 124 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:40,719 Speaker 1: you have these training camp reps out here, and there's 125 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 1: so many more of these for every player versus whatever 126 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 1: or anyone's going to get in the preseason games. Right, 127 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:49,839 Speaker 1: So how is the exchange rate between the value of 128 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 1: making plays in those games versus what they've been doing 129 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:55,839 Speaker 1: out here in camp and practice against each other, especially 130 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 1: in pads. As far as their chances go to make 131 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 1: the team. It all factors in mark And the thing 132 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 1: about the preseason two which you have to be very 133 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:05,039 Speaker 1: conscious of is who they're playing against. Again, it's just 134 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:09,720 Speaker 1: the reality of the situation. So who they're going against, 135 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 1: who's the level of competition. Again, look, there's ninety players 136 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 1: on just about every roster, and not everybody's gonna make 137 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 1: their respective teams. They're going to be some players that 138 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:19,039 Speaker 1: aren't going to be playing, they're going to be on 139 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:21,160 Speaker 1: the street. So again you want to make sure you're 140 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 1: evaluating the player the right way with the right information. 141 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 1: And again it's in totality. You're taking everything top to bottom. 142 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 1: What goes on in practice, what goes on in the game. 143 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:32,920 Speaker 1: Do you put more weight on one versus the other? 144 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 1: I don't think so. You know, you'd like to see 145 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 1: it in live performance. And again, some players have a 146 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 1: more difficult time in practice. Then you get to the 147 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 1: game and it's something different, and then you try to say, okay, 148 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 1: what's the gap? You know what happened there, what's the 149 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 1: reason behind that? So again you have to take all 150 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:52,559 Speaker 1: the information process and just try to make a good decision. Nick, 151 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 1: Versatility is the word we've talked about a lot, and 152 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 1: obviously the NFL forty six man roster, game day roster. Hey, 153 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:01,719 Speaker 1: the more you can do. How much does that factor 154 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 1: in for you when you look at I don't know, 155 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 1: maybe say with the lineman that could play a guard 156 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 1: and center. Hey, this guy can play center. He can 157 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 1: if something were to go wrong, he could step in 158 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 1: there and play center. Hey, this guy plays corner, but 159 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 1: if we needed to cond play the nickel or he 160 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 1: could end up playing safety if we need him to. 161 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 1: How important does that get factored in with this particular 162 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 1: group of guys you have. It's critically important because you 163 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 1: can only take so many players to the game and 164 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 1: you can't have a backup for every position. So specific 165 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 1: to the offensive line, you're typically going to have another tackle, 166 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 1: another inside player, some of that can play center, and 167 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 1: you really ideally like to have that next inside player 168 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 1: be able to man all three spots and the same 169 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 1: thing a tackle. So your third tackle, if something happens 170 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:40,679 Speaker 1: a right tackle, care you better off putting that tackle 171 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 1: a right tackle or moving the guy on the left 172 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 1: to the right. So again that's a big part of it. 173 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 1: And same thing defensively. So if they're really good at 174 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 1: one position, that's great. If they have value in multiple 175 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 1: positions and can prove that and they can actually function 176 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 1: at a competitive enough level, that's valuable. There's no question 177 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 1: about it. I mean, we've gone through that. I would 178 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 1: say speaking from personal experience. We have a lot of 179 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 1: players and never played a position before New England and 180 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 1: we just trained them and some players are able to 181 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 1: absorb more than others and some can handle it and 182 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:10,240 Speaker 1: you really don't know until you put him in that position. 183 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 1: But in terms of the roster construction, it has to 184 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 1: be a part of the decision making process and how 185 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 1: do you how do you balance that out with reps 186 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 1: in practice preseason games. Hey, we'd really like to get 187 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 1: a look at this guy at this particular position. It's 188 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 1: not his normal position, but we want to take we 189 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 1: want to take a look at it. We maybe project 190 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 1: him to be this kind of player and maybe he 191 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 1: could fit over there. How do you kind of balance 192 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:34,200 Speaker 1: that out between practice reps and maybe even getting reps 193 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:37,479 Speaker 1: to the preseason. You have to be very purposeful, purposeful 194 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:40,680 Speaker 1: with your actions to create that competition so that you 195 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 1: can actually evaluate that player. You have to put him 196 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:44,559 Speaker 1: in a position where you can actually evaluate it. Yeah, 197 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 1: so if he's an end can to be a three technique? Okay, Well, 198 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:49,440 Speaker 1: if we never see him play three technique, we can't 199 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:51,320 Speaker 1: just say, well, it looks like he can move inside. 200 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 1: You actually tangibly have to see it, so then we 201 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:55,319 Speaker 1: can see, you know what, that's not the right thing 202 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:57,559 Speaker 1: for him. Maybe he's better off doing something else. So 203 00:08:57,720 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 1: you have to create that competition. You have to be purposeful, 204 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 1: have intentions behind it, and you know, give the player 205 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 1: the opportunity that they can be successful. Nick, give us 206 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 1: a taste of where we are right now in camp. 207 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:12,320 Speaker 1: Lighter practice today, night practice tomorrow. Is that a little 208 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 1: bit of a ddress rehearsal body clockwise if nothing else 209 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 1: for the first preseason game and then next week game week. Yeah, 210 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:19,680 Speaker 1: I'd say it's just kind of the flow of the week. 211 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 1: So we've had three good days and pads today kind 212 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:24,080 Speaker 1: of lighting up. I say, there's definitely more of a 213 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:28,200 Speaker 1: teaching technique fundamental day. So again, it's not go out 214 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 1: here and we're going a walk through. Again, you can 215 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:31,200 Speaker 1: get a lot done in a walk through in terms 216 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 1: of knowing what to do, seeing who's doing the right thing, 217 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:35,960 Speaker 1: and you can still work on your fundamentals and techniques. 218 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 1: And then tomorrow it will be more of a I 219 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 1: would say, a continuation of what we've gone on, what's 220 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 1: happened the first three days. Neil might do a period 221 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 1: live or two, but it's not going to be anything 222 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 1: that drastically different. And the players are off on Sunday 223 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:51,080 Speaker 1: and then we'll go through the week next week and 224 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:54,079 Speaker 1: leave on Friday and go play a game on Saturday. 225 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:56,839 Speaker 1: So again part of it is operation as well, like 226 00:09:57,040 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 1: the traveling and the schedule and getting their play is 227 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 1: acclimated to that flow of the week. So there's a 228 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:04,560 Speaker 1: lot of things we're trying to balance off, but again 229 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 1: we're just trying to do the right thing each day 230 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:08,079 Speaker 1: and to give our players the best chance for success. 231 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 1: Nick is the fullback dead. I think it depends what 232 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:14,560 Speaker 1: you're doing John and when you're going to use it. 233 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:17,200 Speaker 1: So there's some benefits to it and there's also some 234 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 1: you know, maybe some negatives. So again you have to 235 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 1: figure out what do you want to be how do 236 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:23,320 Speaker 1: you want to play, where do you use that player? 237 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:26,440 Speaker 1: And again, what are you trying to create with that 238 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 1: player in the game. So there's a place for it, 239 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:30,680 Speaker 1: you just have to figure out if it fits within 240 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 1: the context of what you're doing offensively, because it felt 241 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 1: like in New England with James Devlin, you had the 242 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:39,680 Speaker 1: perfect opportunity and the perfect guy that if you wanted 243 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 1: to do so twenty one personnel like, hey, you can 244 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:43,839 Speaker 1: put Devlin in the game and you can go a 245 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 1: whole series with it and really move the football that way. 246 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 1: And it seemed like you guys did at twenty eighteen. 247 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 1: But then you see other teams obviously don't even think 248 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 1: about putting a fullback on the field. What so they 249 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 1: don't even carry a fullback on the roster. So it 250 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 1: kind of goes back to that versatility question. Can you 251 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 1: take a tight end to pay the fullback or could 252 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:02,679 Speaker 1: you take a fullback type but a bit tight end? 253 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 1: I mean, how do you kind of look at that 254 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 1: aspect of it as well. Yeah, it's a great question, John. 255 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 1: If they can do it, I think is the answer 256 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 1: to the question. And again, it's what you're you trying 257 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 1: to get accomplished offensively, Like, what's the reason that you're 258 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 1: putting that player on the game. So you know, again, 259 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 1: is it to create maybe a matchup to get to 260 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:20,440 Speaker 1: a certain defensive personnel grouping. Is it to move other 261 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:22,959 Speaker 1: players around offensively? So then you get into the mental 262 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 1: capacity of that player to line up in different formations 263 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 1: other than the home position. So again, what are you 264 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 1: trying to accomplish, how are you trying to use that player? 265 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 1: And what's the end game? I think that's a part 266 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 1: of it. So look, there's a place for anybody on 267 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 1: the football field. You just have to figure out what 268 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 1: you're going to do with them and how to do it. Nick, 269 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:40,320 Speaker 1: everybody wants to know about the quarterback, So give us 270 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 1: a snapshot of what you're seeing in the passing game 271 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:46,560 Speaker 1: so far that development. Yeah, I think overall it's just consistency. 272 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:48,679 Speaker 1: So there's been some good players, there's been some bad plays. 273 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:49,839 Speaker 1: I think we got to, you know, need to do 274 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 1: a better job of taking care of the football. Now. 275 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:53,680 Speaker 1: Sometimes some of that it's it's not on the quarterback. 276 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 1: It's a combination of are the other players doing the 277 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 1: right thing and the player fall down? Is he going 278 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 1: the right spot? With the ball. So again, and it's 279 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:03,960 Speaker 1: never about one player or about he did the wrong thing. 280 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 1: It looks on the surface when you just watch it 281 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 1: and you say, okay, well this is what it is. 282 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:09,959 Speaker 1: But that's where you have to do a deeper dige. 283 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:12,679 Speaker 1: So I'd say the big thing is consistency, getting in 284 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:14,839 Speaker 1: and out of the huddle, getting a play call, taking 285 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 1: control at a lot of scrimmage, and at different points 286 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 1: each players showing the capacity to do that. So again, 287 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:21,440 Speaker 1: we'll continue to do that. We'll continue to put them 288 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:23,520 Speaker 1: in positions where they got to make good decisions. And again, 289 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 1: playing quarterback, a lot of it is just about making 290 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 1: good decisions and doing the right thing for the team. 291 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:31,079 Speaker 1: A lot of Tarad's game historically has been or not 292 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 1: maybe a lot, not the majority, but some of it 293 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 1: at least has been getting out of the pocket, making 294 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:37,720 Speaker 1: plays on the run like that, and maybe in a 295 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 1: designed way as well. How hard is that to simulate, 296 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 1: to make that happen out here? Uh? Yeah, again, because 297 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 1: the practice is to a certain extent a little bit controlled. 298 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:47,440 Speaker 1: So again you're trying to train reactions and you're trying 299 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 1: to train you know, different situations. Some of that is 300 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 1: a little bit more realistic in the game situation. So again, 301 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:54,200 Speaker 1: what you have to do offensively at times you just 302 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 1: kind of have to react to what happens on defense, 303 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 1: and a lot of it is just understanding what's going 304 00:12:58,160 --> 00:12:59,720 Speaker 1: on on that side of the ball, you know, because 305 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 1: all that will dictate what we're gonna do on the 306 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 1: offensive side of the ball. So um, again, there's certain 307 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 1: things you get a better grasp and feel of and 308 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:08,440 Speaker 1: practice than others, and there's other things it's a little 309 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 1: bit easier in the game. So again, we'll just take 310 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 1: it as it comes. Nick, because we were coming to 311 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:14,719 Speaker 1: this training camp, I think we all use the word 312 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 1: I think you talked about the word to see word competitiveness. 313 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 1: Are you seeing the type and the level of competition 314 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 1: that you wanted to see coming into training camp? Have 315 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 1: you seen that through the first eight days. Yeah, the 316 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 1: players have had a great attitude, they've approached it the 317 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 1: right way. When you look at some of the repcounts 318 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 1: at certain positions, is pretty equally balanced. So again, we 319 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 1: want to see everybody against different people. You never want 320 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 1: to see the same player against the same person all 321 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 1: the time because each week it's going to be different, right, 322 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:40,320 Speaker 1: One week, it's gonna be Cam Robinson. The next week 323 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 1: it's gonna be you know, Jack Conklin. So how do 324 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 1: they fare against different players? I mean, you want to 325 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 1: be able to see that, so you just don't want 326 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 1: to see one player and maybe go against the same 327 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 1: person all the time. So again, I think the players 328 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:52,959 Speaker 1: have a sense of urgency about them and their attitude 329 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 1: has been great, and then they understand what's going on 330 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 1: around them too. Look t NFL, Okay, it's a tough 331 00:13:57,200 --> 00:13:59,840 Speaker 1: business and the reality of life is not everybody's gonna 332 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 1: make our team. We've talked about that. David's talked to 333 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:03,840 Speaker 1: the team about that. The players understand that. I mean, 334 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 1: that's part of being a pro. And again, the other 335 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:10,199 Speaker 1: silver lining is even if maybe you're not an our team, 336 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 1: you're essentially auditioning for the rest of the league as well, 337 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:14,720 Speaker 1: So there's still a lot to be gained with your 338 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 1: performance on a week to week basis. What can you 339 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 1: share with us about what it's like inside the building 340 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 1: during camp, because it's not like the guys are going 341 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 1: clubbing at night. You guys are still at work at night. 342 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 1: They're all around here, we see it, So what can 343 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 1: you tell us. I'd say active and purposeful. The day 344 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 1: is filled up, so we've tried to balance practice giving 345 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 1: them time to recover. So we talk to the players 346 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 1: a lot about recovery, taking care of yourself, nutrition, stretching, lifting, 347 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 1: So a lot of it is getting into a flow 348 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 1: of the schedule so you can understand where you are 349 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 1: during the day. But I'd say it's very active, that's 350 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 1: time consuming and there's not a lot of gaps. But 351 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 1: again we're also cognizant and making sure we give them 352 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 1: enough time to recover because you want them to optimize 353 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 1: their performance on the field the next day. So again, 354 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 1: the NFL has rules in play, so you have certain aminers, 355 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 1: certain hours that you're allowed. So we try to maximize 356 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 1: those hours and get as much out of it and 357 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 1: then come back and do the thing and do it 358 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 1: the next day. What do you think of Coach Culley 359 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 1: talking to the crowd of the vike. He's way better 360 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 1: at doing that than I am, So I'm glad he's 361 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 1: over there and not me. So he wears he wears 362 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 1: the bucket hat, sometimes the floppy hat. Are you a 363 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 1: floppy hat guy? Straight baseball cap? Yeah, everybody's got their 364 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 1: own style. I'm a big visor guy, visor guy. You 365 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 1: gotta have the right hair for the visor. I don't 366 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 1: know if I have the right here, but I'm definitely 367 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 1: more of a visor for Steve Spurrier. What can I say. 368 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 1: He's a lot better coach than I ever was. Nick, 369 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 1: thanks a lot for joining us. Yeah, thanks, guys, appreciate it. Well, 370 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 1: there's Nick Kassia. I'm coming up the General John McClain. 371 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 1: You know, he always has plenty to add to the 372 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 1: conversation about what is going on at camp, his thoughts 373 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 1: on what he's been seeing and what is going to 374 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 1: be seen. As the Texans play their preseason opener one 375 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 1: week from a Saturday night at Green Bay, it'll be 376 00:15:56,680 --> 00:16:00,080 Speaker 1: live right here and on ABC thirteen later on in 377 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 1: the show, numerous Texans as we'll go somewhat rapid fire. 378 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 1: Jeff Driscoll, you've heard his name, A budge at quarterback. 379 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 1: We're gonna have Ryan Izzo on as well, among others. 380 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 1: Stay tuned. It's Texans Radio. It's Texans Radio, and it's 381 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 1: John McLean. Actually I'm not John McLean, I'm Mark VanderMeer. 382 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 1: But we have John McLean on every morning during our 383 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 1: training camp. Programs and what's a week on Thursday Night's 384 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 1: usually on Texans All Access from the Houston Chronicle. The 385 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 1: veteran In fact of this segment, Johnny gushes over him 386 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 1: a bit, so we'll hear some of that. But we 387 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 1: started out asking the general what he's liking about training camp. 388 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 1: I liked that the fans are able to come out today. 389 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 1: I really like the night practice for tomorrow. And I'll 390 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 1: never forget when Gary Kubia came here and it was 391 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 1: those six and they had a night practice and it 392 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 1: was the first time Bum Phillips had been out, and 393 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 1: they had Bum him in a corner and a golf 394 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 1: card and they brought him out. And even though it 395 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 1: was a Texans practice and the Texans had been in 396 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 1: business since two and two, Bum got his huge ovation 397 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:06,879 Speaker 1: from everybody, and they drove him around on a golf 398 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 1: cart like a dignatary who had come back to town. 399 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 1: And people were just going crazy, and he was so 400 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 1: excited about that. Gary used to be a ball boy 401 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 1: at training camp when most of us Matt, Gary and 402 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 1: and Uh it was. It was one of the best 403 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:27,720 Speaker 1: practice experience I've ever seen because Bum was so pumped. 404 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:30,120 Speaker 1: He never had any idea he was going to get 405 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 1: that kind of reception. And I and Debbie were living 406 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 1: down in Goliad at the time, and and Kubyaken invited 407 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:40,119 Speaker 1: him up and it was really really fun. General other 408 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 1: than you, is Bum, without question, the most beloved football 409 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:54,399 Speaker 1: figure in the city of Houston. You chuckle. Somewhere Earl 410 00:17:54,560 --> 00:18:02,359 Speaker 1: is respected and admired, but Bum, that was Bum was worshiped. Yeah, 411 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 1: because you know, Earl was a great player. Bum traded 412 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 1: to get the first pick in the seventy eight draft 413 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:10,480 Speaker 1: to bring him in. And of course Earl is in 414 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame, and they that's when Love You 415 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 1: Blue was born. And uh, but bum Lot because Earl also, 416 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 1: Earl isn't Austin Bum. He came back here a lot, 417 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 1: even when he and Debbie moved to their ranchant goaliead. 418 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 1: But I've never seen anybody more beloved than Bum. Phillips, 419 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 1: why were you laughing? But the way you started that 420 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 1: Wait a second thought, Look, don't please, don't even do that. 421 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 1: That's that's I was embarrassed because it's so far from 422 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:40,879 Speaker 1: being the truth. It is not that far from the truth. 423 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 1: He's not that far from the truth. Ask well, you 424 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 1: asked me. You are definitely in that mix. There's no doubt, 425 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:48,920 Speaker 1: because there are people rolled around this city listening right 426 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 1: now that are like I've listened to John McClain. I've 427 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 1: read everything he's written since I was in high school, 428 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:57,159 Speaker 1: since I was in college, since the Internet started. Whatever. 429 00:18:57,600 --> 00:19:00,159 Speaker 1: You are that person for a lot of people you 430 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 1: laugh for not job. I've been doing it a long time. 431 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 1: Sometimes age as its advantages, and but thank you very much, John, 432 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 1: That's what I'm hoping. Age has its advantages. I hope 433 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:14,880 Speaker 1: so many. Aren't you gonna agree about you? Of course? Well, 434 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:18,480 Speaker 1: when Mark turns thirty, you know you know, John silverarejo 435 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 1: any nine longer than anybody? I know? Exactly? Exactly general? 436 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:24,199 Speaker 1: Last night the Hall of Fame game with the Steelers 437 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 1: of Cowboys. Couldn't really care less about the actual game itself, 438 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 1: but with Hall of Fame festivities, are you gonna end 439 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:33,400 Speaker 1: up going? Are you going this weekend to the induction? 440 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 1: I am not. And last night I was watching Astros 441 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 1: stink it up in a game against the Twins, getting 442 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:43,159 Speaker 1: hammered by one of the worst teams in baseball, and 443 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:45,479 Speaker 1: I switched ever once in a while, but once I 444 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 1: saw Mason Rudolph's humble. I think the first play, I said, 445 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 1: I'll see my first preseason game next week. And and 446 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 1: for a team like the Texans with so many new players, 447 00:19:56,359 --> 00:20:00,480 Speaker 1: especially all the veterans, preseason games are so important and 448 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 1: with all the new coaches. So that's why I can't wait. 449 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 1: This time next week, we'll be on our way to 450 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:09,879 Speaker 1: Green Bay, and I can't wait. Yeah, we need to 451 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 1: see them against another team, because going against themselves an 452 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:17,120 Speaker 1: iron sharpening iron. Look the defense, it feels like they 453 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 1: know what's coming in some ways, and Vernon Hargraves told 454 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 1: me as such. You know that you get to know 455 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:24,159 Speaker 1: the patterns of the receivers after a while, you get 456 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 1: to know their little moves and their mannerisms and their tells. 457 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 1: And it's probably good for the offense to hear this 458 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:32,359 Speaker 1: from the defense so they can try to improve that 459 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 1: and change that up. But I thought the defense had 460 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:38,359 Speaker 1: some moments yesterday again John, but still with the first 461 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 1: team offense led by Trod Taylor, I'm optimistic that they'll 462 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:43,400 Speaker 1: be able to run the football and do some play 463 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:45,360 Speaker 1: action and he can make some things happen the way 464 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:47,400 Speaker 1: he has been doing in this league. When he's been 465 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 1: with successful teams. That's a great way to put it, 466 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:51,679 Speaker 1: because they are going to run the ball more and 467 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:54,200 Speaker 1: he can't see that out here because they don't kill 468 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:57,159 Speaker 1: the running backs and he doesn't run over people. Although 469 00:20:57,280 --> 00:21:02,159 Speaker 1: yesterday an interesting case. Neville linebackers started sixteen games for 470 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:05,879 Speaker 1: the Jets, led them in tackles, running with a second group. 471 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 1: He had been with the Jets. He spent his whole 472 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 1: career in AFCAS. Here's Rex Burkhead outside last four years 473 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:15,399 Speaker 1: with the Patriots. You know, at some point Hewitt was 474 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:18,200 Speaker 1: hitting him. Yeah, Hugh had hit him harder than anybody's 475 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:20,480 Speaker 1: been hit at practice, and I thought, man, they thought 476 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 1: they're back in the AFC East. And so we'll see 477 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 1: all that next week. And but right now, it's fun 478 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:30,639 Speaker 1: to watch the offense when Taylor's there. It's fun to 479 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:34,199 Speaker 1: watch Davis Mills. He's been so much better. I'll tell you, 480 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 1: tells you a lot about him. How he rebounded from 481 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:40,639 Speaker 1: that Saturday performance, because he got a lot of criticism 482 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 1: across the board, and he's human, he knows it, his 483 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 1: family knows it. They keep up and he's bounced back 484 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:49,159 Speaker 1: big time this week. And that to me is a 485 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 1: big step for him early in his learning process. John, 486 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:55,639 Speaker 1: this rookie clients take Davis is the side when I 487 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:59,160 Speaker 1: asked this of Nick a little bit later about expectations 488 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:02,400 Speaker 1: for rookies. Obviously, previous coach here didn't have a lot 489 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 1: of expectations of rookies at all, and maybe that short 490 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:07,359 Speaker 1: change some of the young guys getting opportunities early. But 491 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 1: this rookie class, John, I leave practice every day and 492 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:12,920 Speaker 1: somebody will say, hey, what happened? And the first names 493 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:16,159 Speaker 1: that pop into my head are Roy Lopez, Garrett Wallo, 494 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 1: Nico Collins, you know, Brevin Jordan's. The rookies are popping 495 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:21,199 Speaker 1: in my head. Are they doing the same for you? 496 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:23,680 Speaker 1: What have you thought this far the rookie class twenty 497 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:27,160 Speaker 1: twenty one? Well, I don't expect an immediate contribution because 498 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:31,400 Speaker 1: there's so much competition. Like Roy Lopez, Roy Lopez six 499 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:34,960 Speaker 1: two three eighteen. They like him. He's gonna play over 500 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 1: the center nose in a four man front, but he's 501 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 1: got a lot of guys around him. And so if 502 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 1: they hadn't signed so many veterans or they had more 503 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 1: guys back, I think he'd have a better chance to 504 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 1: get playing time, Garrett Wallos, same thing. They got a 505 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 1: lot of linebackers, and but if you look over at 506 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 1: Nico Collins, he's the one you'd like to see them 507 00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:01,439 Speaker 1: get the biggest contribution from because he just looks the 508 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:05,440 Speaker 1: part of a big time receiver. And Brevin Jordan. There's 509 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 1: a lot of competition at tight end. Are they gonna 510 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:10,960 Speaker 1: keep four tight ends? They have so many players in 511 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 1: other positions? Can they have ford to keep four tight ends? 512 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 1: In these three preseason games will determine that. Let's get 513 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 1: back to the d line for a moment, because I 514 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 1: think it's the toughest cut on the team. There's no 515 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 1: doubt in my mind. I'm gonna read you some names 516 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:27,679 Speaker 1: here and you just you don't have to stop me, 517 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 1: But just think about these names as we roll through, 518 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:31,920 Speaker 1: and think about are you gonna keep eight, nine, ten 519 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:35,360 Speaker 1: of these guys in this fourth may forced themselves on 520 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:40,360 Speaker 1: DeMarcus Walker, Jordan Jenkins, Jonathan Grennard, Jacob Martin, Whitney, Merciless, 521 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 1: Roy Lopez, Ross Blacklocke. I mean, you could easily come 522 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 1: up with the scenario where they all make it, all 523 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:48,159 Speaker 1: those guys make it. What did I just read seven names? 524 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:52,200 Speaker 1: Then let's continue Jaliel Johnson, Brandon Dunne, Shack Lawson, charleson 525 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 1: Manna Who, Derek Rivers, Vincent Tyler. I finally get to MALIEK. Collins, 526 00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 1: who is a definite starter. I mean he's a starter, right, 527 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:03,119 Speaker 1: and then have big z. I've got fifteen defensive linemen 528 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:04,960 Speaker 1: and I have maybe two that I could see. All right, 529 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:07,359 Speaker 1: I guess you can cut those guys. We're down to thirteen. 530 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:10,399 Speaker 1: It's gonna be really difficult. Well, fortunately, they're gonna have 531 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 1: veterans on the practice squad, and you hold people out 532 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:15,679 Speaker 1: there will say yeah, I don't want any of these Texans, 533 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 1: and they'll put them on the practice squad. And right 534 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:22,440 Speaker 1: now you've got your ends. Who get up to feel 535 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 1: you got your tackles. The only guy I could say 536 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:29,480 Speaker 1: right now who's a definitive starter is MALIEK. Collins. Now, 537 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 1: my new compadre, the Chronicle Brooks convene him is starting 538 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:36,439 Speaker 1: today and he's gonna do a story tomorrow. Shack Lawson. 539 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:40,199 Speaker 1: You know, they didn't trade Benardrick McKinney to not be 540 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:43,440 Speaker 1: playing Shack Lawson. And so I can't wait to see 541 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 1: how the defensive line plays out they've got a pass rushers, 542 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:49,640 Speaker 1: they got run stuffers. I've said all along. I think 543 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 1: Charles A Mena who is ideal for what they're doing. 544 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 1: Ross Blacklock, you know, I think he's got a lot 545 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 1: to prove. We talk about that cliche chip on your shoulder, 546 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:01,919 Speaker 1: which is a lot to and I think that, uh, 547 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 1: we'll see a different Ross Blacklock. And as love Smith 548 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 1: pointed out, it's not just four starters. There gonna be 549 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:11,120 Speaker 1: a whole lot more who are gonna play. And that's 550 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:13,960 Speaker 1: why they played preseason games. And it is gonna be 551 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:16,240 Speaker 1: a tough cut. But man, it's it's good that you 552 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 1: have so many on the practice squad and so many veterans. 553 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 1: Jalil Johnson started sixteen games with the Vikings last year. 554 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:27,240 Speaker 1: I mean crazy a Zoyah Alufahi, right, Johnny, Yes, very good, 555 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:31,479 Speaker 1: big Ziz I got time. I got his name. It's 556 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:34,000 Speaker 1: funny because you mentioned it's hard to name the starters 557 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 1: except for maybe Collins. Yet it's easy to name rotational 558 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:41,920 Speaker 1: players like, oh yeah, he's eight, they're definite, although then 559 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:46,280 Speaker 1: you can I can't name just eight stuff. I was 560 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 1: just giving a sort of example there. Yeah, one Maria 561 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 1: john I I know defense line is gonna be tough. 562 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:54,160 Speaker 1: I agree with you, guys, I think that's gonna be tough. 563 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:56,280 Speaker 1: But I do think there are some spots where you go, 564 00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:57,919 Speaker 1: you know what. I was ready to write a few 565 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 1: guys off, and then I watching in camp and I'm like, 566 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:03,919 Speaker 1: you know, I don't know. I'm the d liner in general. 567 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 1: In general, and one of those is a defensive back 568 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:09,600 Speaker 1: because after watching last year, I thought Vernon hargraves. Now 569 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 1: I don't don't think he started sixteen games, doesn't I 570 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:14,440 Speaker 1: don't care if a guys started sixteen games or he 571 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 1: sat on a bench for sixteen games. It doesn't matter. 572 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 1: The guys they were bringing in or they had, I 573 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:21,720 Speaker 1: think were a step. It felt like at the time 574 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:24,400 Speaker 1: they were a step above what Vernon and Vernon played 575 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 1: all sixteen games outside and they didn't think at the 576 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 1: time thought Vernon was an inside guy. And I think 577 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 1: they felt like last year Vernon was an inside guy 578 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 1: because they were at Garyan Connley to go with Brad. 579 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:34,680 Speaker 1: They robe that's the way they're gonna roll, and when 580 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 1: Connley was not ready to go and that flamed out, 581 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:39,879 Speaker 1: they put Vernon outside. I think Vernon has struggles in 582 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 1: last year's defense too, But in this camp, I think 583 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:46,200 Speaker 1: he has been very, very good, and I don't think 584 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:47,879 Speaker 1: it's a fad to complete that Terrence Mitchell is a 585 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 1: starter at corner. What are you thought about Vernon Hargraves, 586 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:53,200 Speaker 1: Terrence Mitchell and kind of that corner battle. Well, they've 587 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:56,200 Speaker 1: had Mitchell as a starter since camp began, opposite Roby. 588 00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:59,119 Speaker 1: They're gonna have to have two starters besides Roby for 589 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:02,440 Speaker 1: the first game again the Jaguars, since Robi is suspended. 590 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:06,159 Speaker 1: I wrote about him today in my column, and I 591 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:07,919 Speaker 1: look for him to have a big season. You know, 592 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:09,719 Speaker 1: there's another guy that's got a lot to prove. They 593 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:11,359 Speaker 1: got a lot of this. So many chips on the 594 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:13,479 Speaker 1: shoulders they should be put to wear. They're wearing them 595 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:17,439 Speaker 1: up as much as their shoulder pads. And Terrence Mitchell 596 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 1: started sixteen games for a playoff team last year, the Browns, 597 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 1: and so as David Culley, Lovey Smith, Tim Kelly, all 598 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 1: the coaches about the C word. Competition makes everybody better. 599 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 1: And I think the fact that Terrence Mitchell's out here 600 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:35,480 Speaker 1: running with the ones has helped Vernon R. Graves have 601 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 1: a better camp. Desmond King, the second who we talked 602 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,159 Speaker 1: to for the first time yesterday. He's come in here 603 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 1: blown everybody away. As the slight corner. They'll start free 604 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:48,359 Speaker 1: and almost every game they got depth and they made 605 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:52,200 Speaker 1: the fewest changes in the secondary, specifically at safety. So 606 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:56,359 Speaker 1: but if they don't get that pass rush and up 607 00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,840 Speaker 1: front Sudde doesn't stop that run, those guys are going 608 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 1: to be set up last year in the two stats. 609 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 1: I know that I would bet any amount of money 610 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:06,439 Speaker 1: that will not be last against the run, and then 611 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 1: we'll have more than nine turnovers. John, what do you 612 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:12,359 Speaker 1: have going out on the chronicle? I've got let's see, 613 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 1: I've welcome Brooks Camina. That's him standing over there. I'm 614 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 1: clear Lake and I'm trying to tolerate him as a 615 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,879 Speaker 1: long horn. He hadn't got on my nerves yet talking 616 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 1: about the SEC and he just covered LSU for the 617 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:27,720 Speaker 1: Baton Rouge Advocate and we're glad to have him at 618 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 1: home and he'll have stories tomorrow. I've got podcasts, TV notes, blogs, 619 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 1: everything you could want on Texas SportsNation dot com, Stony tablets. 620 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:41,080 Speaker 1: He's got it all. Thank you guys very much. As always, 621 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 1: there he is John McLean, the general from the Houston Chronicle. 622 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 1: Now coming up a bunch of Texans players, including but 623 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 1: not limited to, Brandon Dunne. You've heard of him. DJ Dunney, 624 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:54,080 Speaker 1: how's the DJing thing going in the new locker room? 625 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 1: And Jeff Driscoll quarterback, how's it going for him? It's 626 00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 1: all coming out by Texans Radio, rolling on on a Friday, 627 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:05,560 Speaker 1: getting you into your weekend. And Led Zeppelin had a 628 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 1: song called a Whole Lot of Love. You're familiar with it. 629 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:11,120 Speaker 1: This is called a Whole Lot of Texans. Four of 630 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 1: them to hear from in this segment, So let's get 631 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:16,720 Speaker 1: right to it. Two minutes with a Texan and first up, 632 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:20,480 Speaker 1: out of the rainstorm today. The team was doing a 633 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 1: sort of half speed walkthrough tight practice today in front 634 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:25,960 Speaker 1: of the fans, and it started to pour. The fans 635 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:29,800 Speaker 1: were dry because the stands is so great, just covered up. 636 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 1: It's never been like that before. We've had some cover, 637 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:37,320 Speaker 1: but never like this driving rainstorm. Nobody got wet, but 638 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 1: the players certainly got soaked. Anyway, I caught up with 639 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 1: Brandon Dunne DJ Dunney right after practice. First of all, 640 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 1: the rain, How was it out there in the rain today? Man? 641 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 1: It was a good switch up down. It's always hot 642 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 1: in Houston and uh, I guess we called the cool rain, 643 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:53,520 Speaker 1: so we'll take it. How do you feel its three 644 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:57,240 Speaker 1: days in pads Winds went well, you know, not just 645 00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:01,480 Speaker 1: speaking for myself, but he has a team situation rustiness 646 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:03,800 Speaker 1: as always around this time. The camp special when you 647 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:05,960 Speaker 1: pitt pass when we have five days acclimation, but you 648 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 1: know football starts on pass. You know. Uh, he's been good. 649 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 1: The physical Uh. You know a lot of guys be 650 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:12,440 Speaker 1: getting a lot of reps and mints, the reps on 651 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:14,680 Speaker 1: the side and physical reps. So you know, we got 652 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:16,600 Speaker 1: three days in pass. So it's really not saying much. 653 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 1: You've gotta keep going. After last year having camp out 654 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:22,239 Speaker 1: here with nobody, what's it like to have these fans here? 655 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 1: You're able to chuck stuff in the stands. You can't 656 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,200 Speaker 1: really take pictures with them. But what's that like? Man? 657 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,320 Speaker 1: It's good man. The fan interaction man from you know, 658 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 1: just is just amazing. How you got one year off 659 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 1: without him, you know, the interaction with him, not them 660 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:35,720 Speaker 1: not being there at camp and at the game, so 661 00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:37,600 Speaker 1: you know, having them out here this year is really good. 662 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:39,800 Speaker 1: What is it like the d line room. Now you're 663 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 1: got a four three, got more guys, got a lot 664 00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:44,000 Speaker 1: of guys in this d line, Brandon, and then you 665 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:47,360 Speaker 1: have the unfamiliarity of the new faces. What's that like 666 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 1: for you? Man? Everybody just get to know each other. 667 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 1: Everybody's familiar with the with the four three defense. Everybody's 668 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:55,480 Speaker 1: familiar with love him, you know his history and uh, 669 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 1: you know, everybody respects and works hard for coach for 670 00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:01,680 Speaker 1: coach King. So you know, everybody just competing. You know, 671 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:04,120 Speaker 1: it's camping, you know, but at the same time, we 672 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,040 Speaker 1: make it fun in that room. Everyone has gotten you know, 673 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:07,920 Speaker 1: got a lot of it's got a lot of dudes 674 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:09,479 Speaker 1: and there got bigger and we're all just having fun 675 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:10,840 Speaker 1: and we're playing ball and we all getting to know 676 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,560 Speaker 1: each other. We saw the high tech locker room and 677 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:16,360 Speaker 1: your locker as the corner, right, you got the corner spot, 678 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:19,040 Speaker 1: which seems like the premo spots. Yeah, I got the 679 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,040 Speaker 1: corner sweet. You know what I'm saying as much needed, 680 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:23,040 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I guess it's a respectful spot. 681 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:25,960 Speaker 1: You know, I don't have a cane yet. You know 682 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:27,320 Speaker 1: I don't have a cane. Yeah, it's a couple of 683 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:28,880 Speaker 1: things that you know, I gotta work with it, you know, 684 00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,680 Speaker 1: with management, you know our HR. But you know, I'm 685 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:34,360 Speaker 1: happy for right now. What about the music, because you're 686 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 1: the DJ, so how you're handling that With the new 687 00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:40,000 Speaker 1: locker room, I'm doing good man. You know, uh they 688 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:43,080 Speaker 1: got a wireless ox card, so we got a couple 689 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:47,280 Speaker 1: of uh, I guess apps that I gotta downloads. I 690 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:49,040 Speaker 1: can control the muses, so it's just working, good man. 691 00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:50,440 Speaker 1: They're taking care of me. That's what I'm saying. I'm 692 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:52,120 Speaker 1: not going to playing much, but it's still some stuff 693 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:54,719 Speaker 1: I need. Sounds good brand. Thanks a lot for joining us, 694 00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:57,120 Speaker 1: no problem, thanks for having me. All right, let's keep 695 00:31:57,120 --> 00:32:00,560 Speaker 1: it going here. Quarterback Jeff Driscoll on that depth chart 696 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 1: with Davis Mills and to Rod Taylor. How is it 697 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:06,480 Speaker 1: going for Jeff driscol and training camp so far? This year? 698 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:08,240 Speaker 1: Camp has been great and being out here with the 699 00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:10,640 Speaker 1: guys um. You know, there's a bunch of new guys, 700 00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:12,680 Speaker 1: so everybody's kind of doing it for the first time 701 00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 1: getting to know each other. But it really is a 702 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 1: great group of guys and a great staff, so it's 703 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 1: been it's been good. We're all working together to get 704 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:21,360 Speaker 1: better and you can just see us, you know, gain 705 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:23,800 Speaker 1: him momentum day in and day out. What's the communication 706 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:26,880 Speaker 1: like between you to Rod and Davis out here on 707 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 1: the field. Yeah, I know, the room has been great. Um, 708 00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:31,720 Speaker 1: you know, we all bring something different to the table, 709 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:34,880 Speaker 1: bouncing stuff off of each other. So it's a really 710 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:37,200 Speaker 1: good group. It's a unique group. Um. Tyret's been in 711 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:39,640 Speaker 1: the league ten years now, been on a bunch of teams, 712 00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:42,160 Speaker 1: been in a bunch of different situations, and Davis has 713 00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:44,240 Speaker 1: kind of taking it all in and uh, you know, 714 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:47,000 Speaker 1: he's a really smart guy and it's just been it's 715 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:48,600 Speaker 1: been good to work with both of those guys. How 716 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:50,640 Speaker 1: do you like beating pats and doing that two minute stuff? 717 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:52,560 Speaker 1: Oh it's awesome. You know you can you can feel 718 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:55,000 Speaker 1: the energy, you can feel um, you know, the pace 719 00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:56,600 Speaker 1: of play kind of pick up a little bit. And 720 00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:58,600 Speaker 1: you know, football games are won and loss in this 721 00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:00,680 Speaker 1: league a lot of times, but just a few points, 722 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,880 Speaker 1: so you know, end a half into game situations are huge. 723 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,280 Speaker 1: What's this system like and how does it compare to 724 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:08,560 Speaker 1: other places you've been in the league. Yeah, I mean, 725 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:12,120 Speaker 1: you know, every every system has you know, some things 726 00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:14,920 Speaker 1: that you you might call more often, But I mean, 727 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:16,719 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, football plays a football 728 00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,960 Speaker 1: play and it's just learning the little nuances that that 729 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:21,760 Speaker 1: makes you be able to execute at a high level. 730 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 1: When you came in, you were the new guy. But 731 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:26,080 Speaker 1: did it kind of help that everybody's a new guy 732 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:28,640 Speaker 1: here or so many players about fifty Yeah, I mean 733 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,640 Speaker 1: that's just part of the deal in this league. You know, 734 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:33,320 Speaker 1: I've been on you know, three or four teams now 735 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:34,880 Speaker 1: and that's the same with a lot of these guys. 736 00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,880 Speaker 1: So I mean, I think it's a very mature football team. 737 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:39,280 Speaker 1: But like you said, it is a bunch of new 738 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:41,160 Speaker 1: guys and we're all kind of, you know, figuring it 739 00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:44,120 Speaker 1: out together. But makes it easy when it's high character guys. 740 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:47,560 Speaker 1: All Right, you're from Florida. So how does this humidity 741 00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:51,560 Speaker 1: heat situation compare with training camps in Florida? Yeah, it's 742 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:53,840 Speaker 1: very similar. You know, It's it might be a little 743 00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:56,160 Speaker 1: more humid here, you know, you always in Florida, you 744 00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,080 Speaker 1: always say it's the most humid place in the world, 745 00:33:58,160 --> 00:33:59,760 Speaker 1: but it's it's pretty heavy out here as well. So 746 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:02,840 Speaker 1: got a hydrate that's for sure. All right, Thanks a 747 00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:05,960 Speaker 1: lot Jeff going, all right, thank you appreciate it. Okay, 748 00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:08,799 Speaker 1: let's keep this going. A defensive back trying to make 749 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:12,719 Speaker 1: a name here for himself in Houston, Tavier Thomas, and 750 00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:14,880 Speaker 1: no one can get to know a player quite like 751 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,600 Speaker 1: Johnny Harris. Let's listen in catch up with a guy 752 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,520 Speaker 1: that is very intrigued for this roster plays with clean 753 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:24,240 Speaker 1: Brown's last year with the fairest state. That's very interesting 754 00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:26,040 Speaker 1: to me. Tavia Thomas, Welcome to Houston, man, how are 755 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:28,359 Speaker 1: you feeling. I'm feeling great. Nice to be here, great 756 00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:30,840 Speaker 1: to be here. Just want to keep working hard and 757 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,880 Speaker 1: getting better. Eastan every day team. I gotta start with 758 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:35,200 Speaker 1: this one man, And I know it's last year, but 759 00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:38,640 Speaker 1: I gotta start with this because I felt like one 760 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:40,680 Speaker 1: of the best wins for any team last year was 761 00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:43,400 Speaker 1: that game that you guys beat the Steelers and the playoffs. 762 00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:48,160 Speaker 1: You got no coach, You've got one other coach back home, 763 00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:51,960 Speaker 1: you got I mean players are missing, but Tonio doesn't play. 764 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:54,400 Speaker 1: What was that nightlike, especially because a team like the 765 00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:56,680 Speaker 1: Steers had have been your rival? What was that game like? 766 00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,080 Speaker 1: Winning that playoff game in Pittsburgh like that? It was 767 00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:01,400 Speaker 1: the best. It was at feeling never winning that game. 768 00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:04,200 Speaker 1: Everyone just stuck together. We knew we had our coaches 769 00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:06,600 Speaker 1: out in our players also, everybody just stepped up and 770 00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:07,840 Speaker 1: did what they had to do is to get the 771 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:10,359 Speaker 1: dub and it was just fun. Everybody was out there 772 00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:12,879 Speaker 1: just having fun running around and we came out on top. 773 00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:15,440 Speaker 1: And that was your first playoff game. What's that experience 774 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:17,000 Speaker 1: like as a player? Man, We've had a few here 775 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:18,759 Speaker 1: and I've been on the sidelines for a number of them. 776 00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:20,839 Speaker 1: What's that like, your first one as a player? It's 777 00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:24,200 Speaker 1: an amazing It's amazing, Like, it's nothing like it, Like 778 00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:26,640 Speaker 1: every the crowd is just into it. Even though we 779 00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:28,880 Speaker 1: didn't have a full crowd or whatnot, it was still 780 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:31,439 Speaker 1: just everyone there and it was just saw hype every 781 00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:35,000 Speaker 1: time we make a player or something. The whole defense, sideline, offense, 782 00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:37,480 Speaker 1: everybody was just together having fun. So it was just 783 00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:40,279 Speaker 1: the best feeling in the world. Now, you went to 784 00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:44,480 Speaker 1: Fairest State, So the people used the word grind a lot, like, hey, man, 785 00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:46,759 Speaker 1: I'm grinding. You come from Fairest State and you get 786 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:48,200 Speaker 1: in the NFL and you stay as long as you have, 787 00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:52,680 Speaker 1: you have really gone through the grind. What is it 788 00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:56,920 Speaker 1: about just toughen it out every single year. Coming from 789 00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,160 Speaker 1: fairest state, do you have sort of a chip on 790 00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,680 Speaker 1: your shoulder, like, hey man, I gotta prove myself everything 791 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:03,320 Speaker 1: every single time I'm out there. I didn't go to 792 00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:05,359 Speaker 1: the Alabamas or the Organs. Do you have that chip 793 00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:07,080 Speaker 1: on your shoulder when you out in the field. Yes, 794 00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:09,279 Speaker 1: that chip is on my should at all times. Like 795 00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:11,319 Speaker 1: each and every year, each and every day, I just 796 00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:13,040 Speaker 1: try to get better and better each and every day 797 00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:15,440 Speaker 1: and just learn from the older guys and learn from 798 00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:17,880 Speaker 1: the guys that came from those type of programs and 799 00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:20,759 Speaker 1: just take everything I can, be a sponge with all 800 00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:23,120 Speaker 1: the veterans or whatnot, and just keep coming out each 801 00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:25,120 Speaker 1: and every year and just bawling out. Do whatever I 802 00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:27,480 Speaker 1: gotta do with his special Team's defense, whatever I gotta do, 803 00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:29,960 Speaker 1: just do it, and just the skis the limit. Just 804 00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:32,439 Speaker 1: keep go out first and just keep grinding. Like you said, 805 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:36,640 Speaker 1: Detroit to Houston, I mean eventually, I mean ahead of 806 00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:39,160 Speaker 1: the stops, Detroit to Houston. Now I know one of 807 00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:41,040 Speaker 1: the guys in the roster that's made that, and that's 808 00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:43,880 Speaker 1: Desmond Can. Did you guys know each other growing up 809 00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:45,759 Speaker 1: at all or were you in different circles? What did 810 00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:47,839 Speaker 1: you guys know each other? That you're probably little younger 811 00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:50,279 Speaker 1: than Desmond, But did you know him growing up at all? Oh? Yeah, 812 00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:52,400 Speaker 1: that was my dog. We played pal together high school. 813 00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:54,600 Speaker 1: He went off to Iowa. I was trying to go 814 00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:56,880 Speaker 1: to Iowa. I couldn't get an eighteen on my act 815 00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:59,800 Speaker 1: with best friends growing up, and to be here with 816 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:02,520 Speaker 1: them today, it's just it's an amazing feeling. Like when 817 00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:05,120 Speaker 1: I heard the news once I signed, then he signed, 818 00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:07,279 Speaker 1: we like had a party back at home, like both 819 00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:09,760 Speaker 1: of our families real close. So who was always together 820 00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:12,319 Speaker 1: and now we were together even more so it's going 821 00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:14,799 Speaker 1: to be great being with him. Does that make the 822 00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:17,600 Speaker 1: transition to a new team easier? Just having somebody you 823 00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:19,359 Speaker 1: can at least go a locker room and go, man, 824 00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:22,479 Speaker 1: hey it's hot out there. Hey where do I go eat? 825 00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:24,120 Speaker 1: Where you want to go eat? So how does that 826 00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:26,600 Speaker 1: make the transition easier for you? It's way easier. Like 827 00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:29,239 Speaker 1: I have one of my best friends and then I 828 00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:31,840 Speaker 1: have like eight other teammates that played with me in Cleveland. 829 00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:34,880 Speaker 1: So once I got the word that Houston was wanted 830 00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:37,040 Speaker 1: me here, and I had all the other guys coming 831 00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:39,040 Speaker 1: and guys that was here. It was just like it 832 00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:41,600 Speaker 1: was just perfect fit. It's not like I'm too far away. 833 00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:44,680 Speaker 1: I always got someone that's family oriented with me. So 834 00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,279 Speaker 1: it was great, all right. I started as a few 835 00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:50,239 Speaker 1: a few practices to go say something nice about I'm 836 00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:51,880 Speaker 1: not even to ask you about Desmond King because you 837 00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:55,480 Speaker 1: just said something very very nice about him, but I'll 838 00:37:55,520 --> 00:38:00,239 Speaker 1: ask you say something nice about your dB coach Dino Vasso. Yeah, 839 00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:03,000 Speaker 1: do you know he's the guy. He young, he's he's 840 00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:05,319 Speaker 1: he want to be young like us. We're here a 841 00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:07,840 Speaker 1: little older, but it's just like a it's like a 842 00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:10,400 Speaker 1: father dad type of relationship with all the guys. So 843 00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:13,080 Speaker 1: it's a great feeling to have a younger guy, even 844 00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:15,759 Speaker 1: though I had an older, little older guy last year. 845 00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:19,319 Speaker 1: But it's it's a great feeling to have those two experiences. 846 00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:22,160 Speaker 1: And with him, it's just great because of transition. Is 847 00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:24,640 Speaker 1: good because he's young and he can he know what 848 00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:26,440 Speaker 1: we is and we know what he is about, so 849 00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:32,120 Speaker 1: it's great. Say something nice about Lovey Smith's beard. It's long, 850 00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:37,200 Speaker 1: long and great. All right, Say something nice about a 851 00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:39,600 Speaker 1: former Brown's teammate. But I talked to you the other day, 852 00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:41,799 Speaker 1: Kay Davis. Oh, yeah, that's my dad. That was my 853 00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:44,480 Speaker 1: special team's ace right there. Me and him was always 854 00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:46,279 Speaker 1: a one two punch on special teams when our other 855 00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:48,799 Speaker 1: guy Cordell, But me and him was always right next 856 00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:50,880 Speaker 1: to each other, twisting off each other or whatnot. So 857 00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:52,480 Speaker 1: I know him, he knows me. We got the same 858 00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:55,480 Speaker 1: aside therapist. So like, that's my guy right there. That's 859 00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:57,520 Speaker 1: my guy. Just big hes just bigger than me. But 860 00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:00,840 Speaker 1: I'm a lying back around heart. You really are. You 861 00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:03,000 Speaker 1: do play a little bit like a linebacker. But I'm 862 00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:04,640 Speaker 1: glad you're here in Tavia. Thank you very much for 863 00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:05,880 Speaker 1: a tire. I'm glad to be here. Thank you. I 864 00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:09,279 Speaker 1: appreciated John Harris with Tavia Thomas one of them any 865 00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:12,359 Speaker 1: dbs trying to make this fifty three man roster. Can't 866 00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:14,800 Speaker 1: wait for the preseason open or a week from Saturday 867 00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:18,799 Speaker 1: night against the Green Bay Packers at Lambo Field. All right, 868 00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:21,560 Speaker 1: we've talked a lot about tight ends. We had Antony 869 00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:26,759 Speaker 1: Auclaire on this morning and he's from Canada and he's 870 00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:29,720 Speaker 1: been getting a lot of meaningful reps. So has Ryan Izzo. 871 00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:31,880 Speaker 1: Who where's the number forty five? Kind of looks like 872 00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:34,040 Speaker 1: a fullback a little bit, but he plays tight end. 873 00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:38,480 Speaker 1: And Izzo has no relation to former Texans special teams 874 00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:43,640 Speaker 1: coordinator Larry Izzo, also a former right standout. Ryan Izzo 875 00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:46,840 Speaker 1: went to Florida State, but he's from New Jersey and 876 00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:49,759 Speaker 1: that's where I began the interview. Ryan, How does a 877 00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:52,480 Speaker 1: guy from New Jersey end up in Florida State? I 878 00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:55,120 Speaker 1: ended up there because a guy named Coach Brewster. Tim Brewster, 879 00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:58,120 Speaker 1: he recruited me heavily when I was in college, starting 880 00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:01,560 Speaker 1: my junior year, senior year. We just connected. I trusted 881 00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:03,640 Speaker 1: him with mine my career and felt like he could 882 00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:06,160 Speaker 1: maybe the best player if possible. Was it a tempting 883 00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:08,280 Speaker 1: to try to go somewhere else up in the northeast 884 00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:11,640 Speaker 1: or closer to home. I was considering Rutgers for sure, 885 00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:15,160 Speaker 1: Boston College for sure, but it ultimately came down to 886 00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:17,680 Speaker 1: Wisconsin and Florida State and made that decisions going to 887 00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:20,120 Speaker 1: Florida State. How has it been getting acclimated to this 888 00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:23,000 Speaker 1: organization in this city. I'd say it's the heat as 889 00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:25,040 Speaker 1: of right now. You know, I got a lot of 890 00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:28,520 Speaker 1: great guys around me. Our room's great, you know, Coach 891 00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:31,480 Speaker 1: Andy is great. So I'm excited to be down here 892 00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:33,080 Speaker 1: and excited to you know, learn and prove it as 893 00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:35,600 Speaker 1: a player. It seems like so many head coaches come 894 00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:38,799 Speaker 1: from the tight end coach ranks. Why is that? In 895 00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:41,160 Speaker 1: your opinion, what is it about being a tight end 896 00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:44,239 Speaker 1: or coaching to position that makes people good head coaching candidates. 897 00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:46,440 Speaker 1: That's like you have to be so versatile. You know, 898 00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:47,959 Speaker 1: you have to know a lot in the passing game, 899 00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:53,360 Speaker 1: run game, coverages, fronts, and it's a real technique sound position. 900 00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:56,000 Speaker 1: You know, it's details. We're generally blocking guys who are 901 00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:58,239 Speaker 1: bigger than us and running rounds on guys who are 902 00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:00,719 Speaker 1: fascining us. So it's about the details. Yeah, you've got 903 00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:02,200 Speaker 1: to know all the routes and you have to know 904 00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:03,880 Speaker 1: how to block too. And I notice you work in 905 00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:05,759 Speaker 1: after practice a little bit. What do you work on 906 00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:08,680 Speaker 1: after practice when you're in that setting. Uh, it's always 907 00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:11,600 Speaker 1: some sort of special teams going in there against kicksets. Uh, 908 00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:14,400 Speaker 1: you know, whatever it is for the day, and then uh, 909 00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:16,120 Speaker 1: you know, going to get some jugs in trying to 910 00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:18,640 Speaker 1: catch some balls and a variety of different angles. You 911 00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:20,840 Speaker 1: feel like special teams is a good ticket for you 912 00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:22,839 Speaker 1: to try to make any squad. Oh for sure, any 913 00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:24,360 Speaker 1: opportunity I get, you know, I'm trying to make the 914 00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:26,920 Speaker 1: most of So if that's special teams, offense, you know, 915 00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:28,920 Speaker 1: wherever that's at. Just want to make the most opportunities, 916 00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:32,680 Speaker 1: all right. What's better a pancake block or ten yard reception? 917 00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:36,080 Speaker 1: I like both both get the same feeling. You know, 918 00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:38,600 Speaker 1: your pancakes somebody you see that running back fly by, 919 00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:40,440 Speaker 1: or you get that catch and you know, make a 920 00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:42,839 Speaker 1: big play to move the chains. Either or it's it's 921 00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:44,680 Speaker 1: a great feeling, all right, Ryan, thanks a lot, good 922 00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:46,040 Speaker 1: Lexie you, thank you, man. I appreciate it if you 923 00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:50,080 Speaker 1: cares what a polite kid Ryan Izzo is. And look, 924 00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:55,000 Speaker 1: I am not blowing smoke here. These guys are terrific, 925 00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:57,480 Speaker 1: these players. They're really great to get to know in 926 00:41:57,560 --> 00:41:59,400 Speaker 1: the building here, and I can only hope that we 927 00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:01,839 Speaker 1: all get to know them much better as a fan 928 00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:04,239 Speaker 1: base here in the city of Houston. These are the 929 00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:07,480 Speaker 1: kind of guys you want representing your city. Fifty new 930 00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:10,600 Speaker 1: players and I have just met so many of them 931 00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:12,799 Speaker 1: and think so highly of them, and I can't wait 932 00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:14,520 Speaker 1: to see them in action. I mean, obviously, the most 933 00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:17,000 Speaker 1: important thing is to win football games and do great 934 00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:19,600 Speaker 1: things for the city. But so far, so good as 935 00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:22,920 Speaker 1: far as the way these players are when you meet 936 00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:25,480 Speaker 1: them up close and personal. Again, I'm just sharing my 937 00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:28,239 Speaker 1: experience with you on this. Okay, a few things to 938 00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:31,120 Speaker 1: point out here on Houston Texas dot com. We have 939 00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:33,600 Speaker 1: so much great content. We have the Question of the Day, 940 00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:35,680 Speaker 1: a lot of fun stuff from camp and a lot 941 00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:38,200 Speaker 1: of breakdowns as well. And John Harris with his Harris 942 00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:40,959 Speaker 1: hits and dpcity who caught up with Jacob Martin today 943 00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:42,959 Speaker 1: you got Dear Drew today. Have so much great stuff. 944 00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:45,560 Speaker 1: So go to Houston Texans dot com or the Texans 945 00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:49,319 Speaker 1: app for all the information on your Houston Texans to 946 00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:51,920 Speaker 1: get to know what's happening at training camp. I know 947 00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:54,840 Speaker 1: it's kind of confusing and overwhelming sometimes because you have 948 00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:57,480 Speaker 1: so many new players, but again, you can get to 949 00:42:57,480 --> 00:43:01,000 Speaker 1: know them better if you go to our digital assets 950 00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:04,920 Speaker 1: team practice tomorrow night, that's Saturday night at the Houston 951 00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:07,239 Speaker 1: Methodist Training Center seven to nine pm. We will be 952 00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:12,160 Speaker 1: on with Texans Live right beforehand, and I know Sports 953 00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:14,319 Speaker 1: Radio sixteen will be out there from seven to nine 954 00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:17,000 Speaker 1: pm as well. So I have a great evening everyone, 955 00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:19,799 Speaker 1: thanks so much for listening, and go Texans.