1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,280 Speaker 1: Donald Trump is the most prolific liar to ever hold 2 00:00:03,279 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 1: a political office in the United States of America, bar none. 3 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 1: He is delusional, he is dishonest, but occasionally he tells 4 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 1: the truth about things. 5 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 2: He lets truth slip through the cracks. 6 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 1: Why is it that Donald Trump said that Russia, which 7 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 1: invaded Ukraine, wants the best for the people and the 8 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 1: country that it's savaged. 9 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:28,159 Speaker 2: Why does he believe that? 10 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 1: I'm Steve Schmid and it is Monday, December twenty ninth. 11 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 1: This is the warning. 12 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:35,880 Speaker 2: This is Mike Turner. 13 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:38,879 Speaker 1: He's a former mayor of Dayton, Ohio, and he's a 14 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:42,880 Speaker 1: member of Congress. He's sitting across the table from Jonathan Carl, 15 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 1: a good journalist with ABC News, and Jonathan Carl is 16 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 1: about to ask a question that's going to trip up 17 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:51,839 Speaker 1: Mike Turner. 18 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:53,240 Speaker 2: Sovereignty. 19 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 3: They're on the side of democracy, liberty, and Russia's on 20 00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 3: the side of authoritarianism and aggression. 21 00:00:58,840 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 2: Which side is Trump on? 22 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 1: This is an essential question, and it's a good one. 23 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 1: It's an inside fastball. 24 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 2: Now. 25 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 1: Sadly, Jonathan Carl didn't finish him off, and I'm going 26 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 1: to talk in a second about the question he should 27 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:16,839 Speaker 1: have followed up with but let's get back to Turner's answer. 28 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 3: Clearly, Trump is on the side of peace and he's 29 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 3: trying to balance these two forces, which is very, very 30 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:28,039 Speaker 3: difficult to bring these two parties together. But in balancing it, 31 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 3: we have to understand that Russia's goal is to take 32 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:37,960 Speaker 3: from someone else, there something that's theirs, and Ukraine has 33 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:44,040 Speaker 3: to have a sense of security, assurances that Russia is 34 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 3: not coming back. 35 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 1: He knows and you can see the tension in his face. 36 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 1: There is no workaround. It is simple. Donald Trump does 37 00:01:53,600 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 1: not support the sovereignty of Ukraine. Donald Trump support the 38 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 1: aggression of Vladimir Putin in a war that is killed 39 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 1: over one point two million Russian soldiers and seeing tens 40 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 1: of thousands of Ukrainian children kidnapped and brought east into 41 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 1: Russia where their lives will be erased and their futures 42 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 1: will be stolen. Why is it that Donald Trump is 43 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:28,799 Speaker 1: rooting for the Russians? For ten years, all manner of 44 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 1: nefarious purposes have been ascribed to the Maga affinity for 45 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 1: the Russian dictator, Vladimir Putin, a stone cold killer. Is 46 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:40,920 Speaker 1: it that Trump has been paid off? Do they have 47 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 1: something on him over and over again. The question has 48 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:48,360 Speaker 1: been asked, it's been raised, but never has a question 49 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:51,640 Speaker 1: been asked the way that Jonathan Carl asked it, which 50 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 1: is just a simple why. And Mike Turner gives an answer, 51 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 1: and his answer maybe is sincere, not just joking. 52 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:03,400 Speaker 2: He says, is that in Trump's heart, he wants peace. 53 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 1: Now, what we all know he really wants is another 54 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 1: FIFA Peace Prize. 55 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 2: I'm a kidding. 56 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 1: He wants the Nobel Peace Prize and he's never going 57 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:15,800 Speaker 1: to get it because Donald Trump isn't a peaceful man. 58 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:19,800 Speaker 1: Donald Trump is about to start a war in South America. 59 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 2: And Donald Trump. 60 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 1: Has been the singular agent that has allowed this war 61 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 1: in Ukraine to drag on because Vladimir Putin knows the 62 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 1: best deal he will ever get is the deal that 63 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 1: Trump will give him. And so let's go back to 64 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:43,119 Speaker 1: Mike Turner, who's going to explain what's going on. 65 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 3: Trump has repeatedly said that Ukraine never should have started 66 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 3: this war, or words to that effect. 67 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 2: I mean Ukraine didn't start this war. Well, they were invaded, clearly, So. 68 00:03:57,360 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 3: How does that affect his effort to try to brook 69 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 3: or a peace deal? Clearly a war of aggression is 70 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 3: started by Russia, and it has been started by Russia. 71 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 3: And I think that in the Trump's sense of wanting 72 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 3: peace is incredibly important, and I think it's a noble goal, 73 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 3: and I think we're getting closer. I think that Zelensky's 74 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:18,600 Speaker 3: coming with a plan that is workable, and they could 75 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:23,839 Speaker 3: get us there, and hopefully with our allies in Europe 76 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:26,919 Speaker 3: that have come together, which with they seem to be 77 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:31,279 Speaker 3: working in advancing the type of security assurances we're going 78 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:34,360 Speaker 3: to need with the United States that hopefully we can 79 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:35,600 Speaker 3: deter Russia in the future. 80 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 1: He says accurately that it is Putin who invaded Ukraine, 81 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 1: so Mike Turner will not go so far into the 82 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 1: delusion sphere to echo Trump's contention that the war started 83 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:57,039 Speaker 1: because of Ukraine, not Trump's aggression. He acknowledges there is 84 00:04:57,160 --> 00:05:02,279 Speaker 1: war in Ukraine because Putin in Ukraine, and he goes 85 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 1: on to say something that is true. Putin invaded Ukraine 86 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:10,360 Speaker 1: because he wants something from Ukraine. 87 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 2: What does he want? He wants land. 88 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 1: Now let's get to the question that Jonathan Caral should 89 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:21,040 Speaker 1: have followed up with, because there's a word that we 90 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 1: know and history teaches us is appropriate for the belief 91 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 1: that the way to deal with an invasion is to 92 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:35,799 Speaker 1: give the invader something of what it is they want, 93 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 1: so they will want less of what it. 94 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 2: Is they tried to take. 95 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:45,279 Speaker 1: Winston Churchill described this as a philosophy. 96 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 2: He said, it's the philosophy. 97 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 1: Of feeding the crocodile first, so that he will eat 98 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:53,479 Speaker 1: you last. 99 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 2: The term is appeasement. What Mike Turner. 100 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:03,360 Speaker 1: Called for is exactly to the letter, precisely what Neville 101 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 1: Chamberlain did. It is the most important lesson of the 102 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 1: last eighty years. 103 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 2: And in this moment, the whole world. 104 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 1: Is being endangered by the weakest president in American history. 105 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:24,920 Speaker 1: A buffoon, a blusterer, and an appeaser. 106 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 2: He is, with his bruised hands. 107 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 1: His fat cankles, his deformed in orange face, the living 108 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 1: refutation to the Teddy Roosevelt adage of walk softly and 109 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:40,799 Speaker 1: carry a big stick. 110 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 2: Donald Trump is incompetent. 111 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 1: Donald Trump is corrupt, Donald Trump is ignorant, and Donald 112 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 1: Trump is vicious. 113 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 2: All of those things are terrible. But the thing. 114 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 1: That he is that will kill the most people is 115 00:06:57,000 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 1: an appeaser of aggression. In Europe, the National Security Document 116 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 1: recently published by the Trump administration makes clear their affinity 117 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 1: is with the European extremists. 118 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 2: It is with those. 119 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:14,679 Speaker 1: Who fetishize the invader Vladimir Putin. 120 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 2: Trump believes the future should be carved through aggression. 121 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 1: That is a terrible thing for every American child, because 122 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 1: it won't be Donald Trump's kids and grandkids who are 123 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 1: laying in their filth and in their blood, screaming for 124 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 1: their mothers. It will be yours, and it will be 125 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 1: because of the appeasement at Marlago. 126 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 2: I'm Steve Schmidt. This is the warning. 127 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 1: I invite you to join this community, where I promise 128 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 1: to be honest, blunt and direct about what is happening 129 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 1: in this country. America is in crisis. Follow and subscribe 130 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 1: to this channel and on substack. Thank you.