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Speaker 1: I want to thank you Fred for sharing all your

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Speaker 1: answers with the whole boys. Reply all boy, I had

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Speaker 1: already sent my sent Mayan in what about the incas

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Speaker 1: some show on the Sports Hub on Saturday. Yeah. Pause.

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Speaker 1: That was a terrible red zone defense too. It didn't

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Speaker 1: really matter, No that did We got two red zone touchdowns? Yeah, yes,

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Speaker 1: I mean we need to have an intervention. It's never

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Speaker 1: good enough. Josh Husha, I'm tired of getting sad. Do

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Speaker 1: they have a fan club out in Vegas? Oh? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: fueled by Duncan. All Right, welcome the Patriots Unfiltered. It

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Speaker 1: is Tuesday here at Gillette Stadium, getting ready for a

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Speaker 1: Saturday game against the Cincinnati Bengals on Christmas Eve. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think we unfortunately we have to talk about this

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Speaker 1: last game that happened, and uh, you know, we now

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Speaker 1: have our butt fumble game. I mean, let's face it,

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Speaker 1: let's own it. It's probably one of the stupidest endings

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Speaker 1: to a game I've ever seen. And we'd be laughing

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Speaker 1: at any other team that did it, so laugh away

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Speaker 1: because we did it. You know, we sure did do it. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I'm still trying to wrap my head around it. Two

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Speaker 1: just I can't believe it. I mean, and you know,

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Speaker 1: I said on the show, just I think the thing

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Speaker 1: they were about to pull out a win in a

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Speaker 1: way you hadn't really seen and that they really needed

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Speaker 1: any and go eight and six, you know, and just

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Speaker 1: stay alive. Yeah, and then they just blew it in

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Speaker 1: absolute epic fashion. And I just that my job is

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Speaker 1: still on the floor. Yeah, Deuce is here, Evan's here,

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Speaker 1: talk about it. Well, we'll talk about things for the

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Speaker 1: next two hours. We're not gonna talk just about that,

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Speaker 1: but we have to talk about it. And you know,

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Speaker 1: that's is one of those games where I know, we

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Speaker 1: did our picks, and we all picked against the Patriots,

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Speaker 1: right I think, Yeah, I even I did, But it's

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Speaker 1: one of those games where you got to pick right,

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Speaker 1: but you are wrong, you know, because you know what

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Speaker 1: I mean, Like I mean the way that game ended, obviously, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: You know, I didn't think that Romandre Stevenson was going

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Speaker 1: whatever it was. But instead of talking about those great things,

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Speaker 1: that's not what any of us envisioned when we said

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Speaker 1: that would be why they lose. That's true, and that

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Speaker 1: really think the game. No, but that game should have

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Speaker 1: the details that lose them games. It's the little things.

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Speaker 1: an undisciplined, poorly coached, sloppy football team all season long,

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Speaker 1: and this one play was just a summation of all

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Speaker 1: like the tuck rule, where you know, the Raiders are

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Speaker 1: Like what's to say that someone said that was the

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Speaker 1: all the things that Evan said about the Patriots is

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Speaker 1: not a one off? How a thousand percent agree with him?

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Speaker 1: You know what else wasn't a one off? Why the

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Speaker 1: comedy of error, and another team that just can't score points. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: like I think this Patriots defense this year has been good.

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Speaker 1: You know, you consistently want to go second and fifteen.

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Speaker 1: Patriots are going to find a way to get off

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Speaker 1: the field. And I thought that some of the things

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Speaker 1: in those situations, like Miles Bryant would come off the slot,

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Speaker 1: rush them, you know, throw away. Now it's third and fifteen.

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Speaker 1: You're not converting third and fifteens consistently in that league.

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Speaker 1: I don't care how good you are offensively. And I

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Speaker 1: thought the Patriots really did a good job of taking

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Speaker 1: and they completely shut it down. Five straight punts and

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Speaker 1: And the last tis Henry because we're gonna we're gonna

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Speaker 1: the whole game they're they're calling you know, these aggressive

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Speaker 1: they took UJ out and put Anthony Jennings on the field.

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Speaker 1: Maybe there was a you know, maybe he's he's out

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Speaker 1: There was thirty two seconds. They threw an eight yard

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Speaker 1: and I know that Bill was really upset after the game,

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Speaker 1: say it anyways. So after the game, Jakobe Myers stood

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Speaker 1: you're on the road. Every game has Bill been the

426
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Speaker 1: first to speak more often than not always last? He's

427
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Speaker 1: always last? Yeah, okay, so that completely illimazed that. I

428
00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:13,919
Speaker 1: thought that was a terrible look that he made. He

429
00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:16,119
Speaker 1: used to be first. I thought the fact that that

430
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Speaker 1: three players had to go to the podium a players,

431
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Speaker 1: I thought was was a really bad look. But if

432
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Speaker 1: you're telling me that that's what happens every week, every week,

433
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Speaker 1: and I'll you know, this year, I think he should

434
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Speaker 1: have made an exception this week and said, this isn't

435
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Speaker 1: the regular game. I need to get out there and

436
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Speaker 1: speak first. Rare, you know, once in a while there

437
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Speaker 1: might be one straggler player that comes in after Billy,

438
00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:40,199
Speaker 1: but for the most part, he's been last. So the

439
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Speaker 1: second one I want to ask, and this is to

440
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Speaker 1: Evan and Mike. You guys have been in the locker

441
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Speaker 1: room here, you know, for all open locker room periods.

442
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Speaker 1: I know, Evan, you've been to everyone. Mike, I assume

443
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Speaker 1: that you're at most, if not all. Um. Do you

444
00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:55,720
Speaker 1: get a sense that there was a growing amount of

445
00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:59,560
Speaker 1: that kind of attitude, that the players are doing their

446
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Speaker 1: best to be accountable and that they're getting let down. Yes,

447
00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:05,120
Speaker 1: And I think the biggest thing that I would say

448
00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:09,240
Speaker 1: is that I want to separate buying from effort, because

449
00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:12,359
Speaker 1: effort I don't question with the with the offense, I

450
00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:15,640
Speaker 1: think they're trying. The players are trying to get better

451
00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:17,639
Speaker 1: and trying to do the right things on the field.

452
00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:20,359
Speaker 1: I think that there's a real lack of buy in

453
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Speaker 1: in terms of confidence that they are doing the right

454
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Speaker 1: things and being told to do the right things, and

455
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Speaker 1: they're scheming it up properly and all those kinds of

456
00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:31,800
Speaker 1: things that I think is a real issue that I

457
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Speaker 1: know it gets talked a lot about on talk Radio

458
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Speaker 1: nine eighty five and things like that that might seem exaggerated,

459
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Speaker 1: but I truly think that it's a real issue that

460
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Speaker 1: they feel, and it starts with the quarterback. I don't

461
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Speaker 1: think that Mac Jones feels like he has the tools

462
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Speaker 1: to be successful on the field, and that's why I

463
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Speaker 1: think a lot of the frustrations that we're seeing on

464
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Speaker 1: TV over the last couple of weeks of him having

465
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Speaker 1: these outbursts, I think that's where it stems from, is

466
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Speaker 1: that he just doesn't feel like they call their down

467
00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:08,239
Speaker 1: plays and they're running right into coverage. Yeah. I just

468
00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:10,919
Speaker 1: wonder if, like, because I thought the way you phrase that,

469
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Speaker 1: with the way the players stood and spoke and said, yeah,

470
00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:18,440
Speaker 1: that's on me, and then the coaches aren't doing that. Yeah,

471
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Speaker 1: if that element of it was something that you can sense,

472
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Speaker 1: I don't think there's any doubt. I don't think anybody

473
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Speaker 1: would argue that what you're seeing offensively is a lack

474
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Speaker 1: of buying. They don't have confidence in faith that what

475
00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:33,800
Speaker 1: they're being prepped to do is going to work because

476
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Speaker 1: it hasn't worked all year. Yeah, they have no confidence.

477
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Speaker 1: I mean, and I score one touchdown every game. And

478
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Speaker 1: it goes back to like some of the young coaches,

479
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Speaker 1: I remember Josh talking about this, as you know, as

480
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Speaker 1: a young coach, it's you're in a weird position because

481
00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:46,000
Speaker 1: sometimes you're younger than the players you might be coaching

482
00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:47,879
Speaker 1: or you're the same age as them, and you know,

483
00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:50,120
Speaker 1: and they talked about you just want to feel like

484
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Speaker 1: the players know that you're giving them information to be

485
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Speaker 1: successful and to put them in position to win. And

486
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Speaker 1: I think to Evan's point, it doesn't feel like they

487
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Speaker 1: feel like even if we execute what they're telling us

488
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Speaker 1: to do, it's not gonna it's not gonna happen. What

489
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Speaker 1: And I also connected it on the show, which you

490
00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:07,399
Speaker 1: know last week there're a lot of on pause channels

491
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Speaker 1: talk of you know, a lot of this stuff that

492
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Speaker 1: the players feeling like they need to take things in

493
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Speaker 1: their own hands. That play felt like we need to

494
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Speaker 1: take things in our own hands. I don't know if

495
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Speaker 1: if I'm going to directly collect guy that emails me

496
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:19,119
Speaker 1: all the time, he calls them the insurrectionists. Yeah, and

497
00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:20,679
Speaker 1: they just went Rogan did it all on in their

498
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Speaker 1: own I don't know that plan on the mindset of

499
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Speaker 1: the team is that I need to do something right

500
00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:28,920
Speaker 1: now because we don't have a plan. That's what said.

501
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:30,800
Speaker 1: He said, I need I was trying to be a

502
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Speaker 1: here arroball. Yeah, I felt I felt for them because

503
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Speaker 1: I I do think those two in particular, Um, Stevenson

504
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Speaker 1: and Myers. I'm not telling you you can question anybody

505
00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:44,480
Speaker 1: you know in terms of effort or whatever, but those

506
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Speaker 1: would be number fifty two and fifty three on my

507
00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:53,040
Speaker 1: list of questioning their their mindset, their effort, their preparation,

508
00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:56,320
Speaker 1: broken tackles, plays, injuries. Yeah, I mean both guys planning.

509
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Speaker 1: The fact that Stevenson practiced I think once and didn't start,

510
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:03,800
Speaker 1: so they obviously felt like concerned enough going into the

511
00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:05,639
Speaker 1: game that they were like, maybe we don't have to

512
00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:09,199
Speaker 1: get and then he puts forth a career high. I mean,

513
00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:11,400
Speaker 1: just unfortunate that the game ends the way it does

514
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Speaker 1: because those two guys should have been the least of

515
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Speaker 1: your worries. I just think it's so telling that hero

516
00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:19,560
Speaker 1: ball is the exact opposite of do your job ball, right, Like,

517
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Speaker 1: I mean, it's just it's it's exactly what they're not

518
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Speaker 1: looking for. Yeah, they weren't desperate. That's those are desperation plays,

519
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:29,400
Speaker 1: and they weren't desperate when you're losing, right right, That's

520
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Speaker 1: why I like I I you know, I think I

521
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Speaker 1: said it off the air before we started, Like, I

522
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Speaker 1: just is there even like an inkling of a possibility

523
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Speaker 1: like point one percent chance that maybe someone lost the situation.

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Speaker 1: I think you said it to me when we were

525
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Speaker 1: walking out. They were tied. Oh I know, and I

526
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Speaker 1: said to you think that they thought they would lose?

527
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Speaker 1: That's what I thought. I know what the score was.

528
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Speaker 1: But do you think that maybe, like when Stevenson flips

529
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Speaker 1: it to Myers in that split second where Mayer's react

530
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Speaker 1: and gets the ball and he's like, well he just

531
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Speaker 1: flipped it to me. I guess we're doing this. We

532
00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:07,080
Speaker 1: got we got it. Okay. That's what I keep saying.

533
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Speaker 1: I'm not trying to excuse them because obviously if they

534
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:12,040
Speaker 1: did think they were losing, that doesn't make it any better.

535
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Speaker 1: It doesn't. It makes it worse. There's there's been a

536
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Speaker 1: lot of silly and unfortunate stuff coming up, but my

537
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:19,520
Speaker 1: favorite was not they always put those little dot diagrams

538
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Speaker 1: out of certain places, and somebody altered it to be like,

539
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 1: this is what Jakobe Myers thought would happen, and they

540
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Speaker 1: did it, like the ball going back to Mac and

541
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Speaker 1: then Mac like out running all twenty one other guys

542
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Speaker 1: on the field up. The side of the true lunacy

543
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:34,840
Speaker 1: of the play thought is if it worked exactly the

544
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:38,480
Speaker 1: way you wanted to then one right, then you probably

545
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Speaker 1: get your quarterback hurt. And then point Evan said, you know,

546
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Speaker 1: if they were designing something like you think we're throwing

547
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:47,080
Speaker 1: it back to Marcus Jones, like oh that makes sense,

548
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:50,880
Speaker 1: Like like that would have made sense, but still would

549
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:53,160
Speaker 1: have been done and then still would have been very dumb.

550
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Speaker 1: But we're okay, I see what they would trying to,

551
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:58,880
Speaker 1: like what what lateral play starts with a draw? You know,

552
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:01,359
Speaker 1: and then on top at all, you know, he didn't

553
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 1: think the quarterback could throw it fired? Oh yeah, you know,

554
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,720
Speaker 1: like we said, what makes city just so much worse

555
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 1: is the situation. The Patriots could have been eight and six,

556
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:15,480
Speaker 1: They could have you know, been in really really good

557
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 1: shape for the playoffs, and now they're out. You know,

558
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 1: if the season ended today, they'd be out of the playoffs.

559
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:24,440
Speaker 1: And it's just a huge opportunity loss. You know, we said,

560
00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:27,200
Speaker 1: you know, with the schedule the way it is, this

561
00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 1: is a game you gotta win. This is a winnable game.

562
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 1: They had it, They had it. I mean, it's it's

563
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Speaker 1: I mean, I think Paul understand, it's one of the

564
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:35,920
Speaker 1: only games you felt like they pissed away. Yeah, I

565
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:37,720
Speaker 1: mean it's the first game that I think would go

566
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,480
Speaker 1: into the category if they should have won that game. Yeah,

567
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:43,720
Speaker 1: like you could have won other you could have won Minnesota,

568
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 1: but this is a game you should have won. You

569
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:49,000
Speaker 1: had a seven point lead with fourth thirty seconds left

570
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:50,440
Speaker 1: in the game. You should win. I mean they got

571
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:52,199
Speaker 1: the first. I mean they both the defense and the

572
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,199
Speaker 1: offense had chances to close the game out with a win.

573
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 1: You always talk about they never got the ball back

574
00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 1: with the with the lead, Well you know they did.

575
00:27:57,560 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 1: They had the ball with the lead and the lead.

576
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:01,520
Speaker 1: They had to get a stuff. That was another one

577
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:03,720
Speaker 1: like that. This is another reason why like I can't

578
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 1: get on board with the improvement offensively, Like that was

579
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 1: a horrific series too. That doesn't even get talked about

580
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:13,160
Speaker 1: it because of what happened. Naked bootleg call was that's

581
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:17,680
Speaker 1: honestly a I don't even have the words. People would

582
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 1: be talking about that if it wasn't somebody somebody who

583
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 1: isn't even like doesn't barely knows whether the football is

584
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:30,400
Speaker 1: stuffed or puffed, said, why are they calling a play

585
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:33,879
Speaker 1: that would get our quarterback hurt? I mean the person

586
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 1: was exactly right, like other than it was just a

587
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 1: bad play, like right, I don't even not that I

588
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 1: don't care about the quarterback getting hurt, but that the

589
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 1: balls on the left hash okay, And so there is

590
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 1: there is reason, like if you have justin fields at quarterback,

591
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 1: you could say, okay, a four three guy, right, this works, right,

592
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:56,040
Speaker 1: But the problem was is because the ball it was

593
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:58,400
Speaker 1: on the left hash, they were running it to Max

594
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Speaker 1: Crosby's side. Max Crosby is one of the smartest players

595
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:03,840
Speaker 1: in the league. You're not going to fool him. Oh

596
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 1: and by the way, you fooled him, But you don't

597
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 1: have to your point, you don't have justin fields. If

598
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 1: that was justin fields and everything unfolded exactly the same.

599
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 1: Now obviously everything changes. The defense is playing that they're

600
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 1: not thinking any way shape or for him, they're going

601
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 1: to run a naked bootleg here. If it was if

602
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:23,480
Speaker 1: it was third and three, Crosby comes crashing in turns

603
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 1: and chase them down. Yeah, because to Evan's point, it's

604
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 1: Mack Jones. No disrespect to Mac Jones, that's not his

605
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 1: skill set. If that was justin Fields or another mobile quarterback,

606
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:38,480
Speaker 1: he probably gets the Edging gets the first down. Yeah,

607
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 1: and it's a different play call, And I also could

608
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 1: have seen it. First of all, it was third and

609
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:46,800
Speaker 1: three instead of third and ten. And I would also

610
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 1: could have seen it if the ball is on the

611
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 1: right hash and you're running it to Chandler Jones aside,

612
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 1: because he is somebody that just comes downhill. But Jones

613
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 1: would have chased them down too, maybe if he got

614
00:29:56,120 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 1: even if he got fooled. I just running that from

615
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 1: that down in distance towards their best player on defense

616
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:08,160
Speaker 1: is just I don't know what how they thought that

617
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 1: that was going to have any sort of success. And

618
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 1: then you put you you know you, it's eleven yards right,

619
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 1: and now you bring the sideline into it. So let's

620
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:18,479
Speaker 1: say for argument's sake, he gets up field and he's

621
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Speaker 1: able to get like six or seven yards. Now he's

622
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 1: looking at the first down stack, He's like, I can

623
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:24,959
Speaker 1: get it. But if I get it and I go

624
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 1: for the pylon and I miss, and I'm sure now

625
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,320
Speaker 1: I'm out of bounds, which compounds the fact that I

626
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 1: didn't get the first down, like there was not That

627
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:36,720
Speaker 1: was a horrifically bad play call. Should they'll talk about

628
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 1: it too? Afterwards, it almost sound like he thought they

629
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Speaker 1: were going to get him with it. And I think

630
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Speaker 1: when there's the post and I'm telling you, I think

631
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Speaker 1: they quote unquote did get him with it. It doesn't

632
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 1: matter when your quarterback is not known for his mobility.

633
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 1: There was definitely a second there where if it was

634
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:57,000
Speaker 1: Justin Fields absolutely said if everything unfolded exactly the same

635
00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 1: for you, name the mobile quarterback, it's a down. Josh Allen,

636
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson, Justin Fields, Patrick Mahomes, they all get a

637
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 1: first down if the play is defended the same way.

638
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 1: That's a big gift because obviously with those mobile quarterbacks,

639
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:15,560
Speaker 1: that's more in the defense's mindset going into the disciplined right,

640
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 1: you wouldn't let it. But I think that this goes

641
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 1: back They were two for thirteen on third down, and

642
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 1: I think this goes back to a lot of the

643
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 1: other conversations that they don't even try. Sometimes on third down,

644
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 1: they don't even try the one before the block punt right,

645
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:31,520
Speaker 1: the little dump off to Hunter Henry over the middle

646
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 1: where it got right. If it's five guys tackled them.

647
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 1: If it's third and eight and longer, there's a seventy

648
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 1: five percent chance that they're gonna just give up. No,

649
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:42,240
Speaker 1: you know what Evan will play. They run. It's the

650
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:43,880
Speaker 1: one where the other two wide receivers on the left

651
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 1: get ready to block, and then you get a little

652
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:47,280
Speaker 1: roster and you try to hit him on the crosser

653
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 1: and assume these guys are gonna block, and he always

654
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 1: gets tackled. It right after the little downfield screen. That's

655
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 1: worked once against the Jets the first time they played

656
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 1: the Jets in the Meadowlands. It worked one time because

657
00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,480
Speaker 1: they hadn't run it yet all year, and now it's

658
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 1: been on tape and so teams just know it's coming.

659
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 1: Kendrick Bourne. They ran it with Kendrick Bourne earlier in

660
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 1: the game and he dropped and dropped it, but it

661
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 1: was that wasn't going anywhere. Yeah, I know the player

662
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 1: you're talking about. They had one, and it's funny. They

663
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 1: had two third down conversions and one of them was

664
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:13,320
Speaker 1: like a third and eleven to Tyke one thought, and

665
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 1: it was the only the second drive of the game.

666
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 1: It's the only past play of the game that I

667
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 1: looked and I said, that's a Patriot. That's offense. That's

668
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 1: NFL offense. He dropped back to Fred's point, had a

669
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 1: lot of time to throw one third and eleven. Give

670
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 1: the lines some credit. He looked, here comes the incut.

671
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 1: Bang he puts it right on him first down. Yeah,

672
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 1: that's like even like the Jacoby Myers played forty years

673
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:39,200
Speaker 1: that was a coverage bust. He was uncovered, Like they

674
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 1: uncovered him twice on the same play. He missed it

675
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 1: earlier on in the game, and they were there, they

676
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 1: were showing zero blitz and then falling out of it,

677
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 1: and so they just said, Jocoby up the shoot instantly

678
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:54,040
Speaker 1: and by by they weren't falling into it quickly enough

679
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 1: to coverage, so they he missed him earlier on in

680
00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 1: the game. He overthrew it and then they hit him

681
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,040
Speaker 1: the second time. But I don't I mean, I I

682
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 1: get it some you know, every team is going to

683
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 1: have their plays, But I don't know why you can

684
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 1: run a play that looks so normal. Yeah, remember, like

685
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 1: you and I talked about it for like five minutes

686
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:10,040
Speaker 1: on that play. It was early in the game. It

687
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 1: was like the second drive Adam third, Like, I was like, wow,

688
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 1: we just dropped remember it hard He goes. You know,

689
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 1: it's not like he had a great amount of time.

690
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 1: He had a normal amount of time for normal offense.

691
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 1: I was like, everything looked right on that. They just

692
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 1: can't you know how he had enough time. I assume

693
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 1: they kept they chipped the ends. Yeah, they kept a

694
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 1: couple of guys, and I thought that they did that

695
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 1: on um you you, I know you watch this so

696
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 1: you can correct me. On the last drive, like the

697
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:41,360
Speaker 1: thirty two seconds that look were they keeping Henry in

698
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 1: like they were chipping They were chipping Crosby the entire game? Ye, Like,

699
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 1: which was the right people. I'm not saying no for

700
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 1: the for the bulk of the game, sure, but with

701
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 1: thirty two seconds left, if I could just complete two passes,

702
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 1: I can at least take a shot here. Yeah, like

703
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 1: dot Connor McDermott. Actually, all things considered, seeing that he's

704
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 1: a backup tackle who was just on the Jets practice

705
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 1: squad a month ago, he actually held up pretty well

706
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 1: against Max Crosby, and he he had I would say

707
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:10,360
Speaker 1: four or five true one on ones against Max Crosby,

708
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:12,799
Speaker 1: and I would say it was like a fifty fifties play,

709
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:14,879
Speaker 1: which for a backup tackle against one of the best

710
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:16,839
Speaker 1: batchelors in the league is not Yeah, those guys didn't

711
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 1: wreck the game. For sure, they had I thought they

712
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 1: had some occasional pressure, but they dealt with it really well.

713
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 1: And you know, I think he got hit a couple

714
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 1: of times as he was throwing that affected throws. Yeah,

715
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:30,359
Speaker 1: but not, but not. It's the NFL. It just I mean,

716
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:32,360
Speaker 1: this probably goes without saying, but it just feels like

717
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:35,399
Speaker 1: NFL defenses have seen everything the Patriots have done this season,

718
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 1: and they are completely know what they're trying to do,

719
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:40,839
Speaker 1: and they're completely ready for it. And the Patriots don't

720
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 1: have the creativity to move off of that stuff and

721
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:46,360
Speaker 1: to build off of what was successful to do something different,

722
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 1: and then they just keep doing what was once successful

723
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 1: thinking it was gonna be successful again. I feel like,

724
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:52,440
Speaker 1: you hit a play that's successful, you got to move

725
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 1: on right away. You're not going to be successful with

726
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:55,920
Speaker 1: that again. You got to you know, continue to evolve.

727
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 1: It just feels like they're stuck in me. I just

728
00:34:57,560 --> 00:34:59,919
Speaker 1: wonder how close they are to the record of least

729
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 1: amount of offensive touchdowns scored in a season, Like I mean,

730
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:06,239
Speaker 1: they can't be far from right. I mean, I've seen

731
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:08,319
Speaker 1: a lot of the comparisons of like the Patriots have

732
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:10,879
Speaker 1: this many offensive touchdowns this year. You know, this guy

733
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:13,439
Speaker 1: has this many, It'll like compared to how many how many?

734
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:17,240
Speaker 1: How many touchdowns? Has Mac thrown for? Seven touchdowns? Eight interception?

735
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 1: Can you believe that an NFL quarterback seven touchdowns, especially

736
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:26,920
Speaker 1: we're in Week fifteen, has five? Oh you know that

737
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 1: that's that's not a normal NFL offense. No, you know,

738
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:35,280
Speaker 1: any way you cut it, they score one touchdown every game. Yeah,

739
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 1: well that's because they have one drive where they actually

740
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:41,759
Speaker 1: scripted up pretty well. But that the problem is that's it.

741
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:44,960
Speaker 1: That's it, or or Romandre just carries six guys. I mean,

742
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 1: I would say the one touchdown drive involved a thirty

743
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 1: nine yard completion as Evan said, on a on a

744
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:52,319
Speaker 1: bust and then a thirty four yard touchdown run. Yeah

745
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:54,399
Speaker 1: that was a touchdown. Boom, we got three play drive.

746
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:58,239
Speaker 1: It's just every week there is one thing that they

747
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 1: do that I'm like, okay, that was that was good job?

748
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 1: All right, like good like the good job. Right, there's

749
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:07,759
Speaker 1: one thing every week, but then it's one thing and

750
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 1: it's there's never two in three. It's always you know,

751
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:12,399
Speaker 1: it's like the Bills game with the Marcus Jones touchdown? Now,

752
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 1: was there one thing was that we're going to use

753
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:17,479
Speaker 1: Marcus Jones on offense this week? And then the rest

754
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:19,879
Speaker 1: of the game was horrible. Were you intrigued a little

755
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 1: bit with some of the Pierre Strong you said, just

756
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 1: felt like they were dabbling a little bit with maybe

757
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:26,319
Speaker 1: trying to get him. That was there one thing in

758
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 1: this game? And they did it like two or three

759
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 1: times and they stopped doing it, and Pierre Strong I

760
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:33,400
Speaker 1: said it after he I think it was like a

761
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 1: nineteen eighteen yard run that he had in the game,

762
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 1: and he poured Duran armand Di Scott his ankles broken

763
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:41,880
Speaker 1: and uh, he tripped him. I should have been a penalty.

764
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:45,440
Speaker 1: But anyways that he I said it during the game,

765
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:47,720
Speaker 1: I was like, this is a guy that can create

766
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:49,520
Speaker 1: with the ball in his hands. I get this dude

767
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:51,759
Speaker 1: the football, Like what are we doing? And then I

768
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 1: don't think he played. The rest of the game. They

769
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:59,320
Speaker 1: went full Roman tripping and intentional grounding the two least

770
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 1: missed penalty calls. They never get called and it happens

771
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,759
Speaker 1: all the time. Well, because he broke his ankles and

772
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 1: as darn Harmon was going down, he's stuck his leg

773
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:12,799
Speaker 1: out and dripped them. H do all right? Five five

774
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 1: hundred is the ACE ticket outline. Web radio at Patriots

775
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:19,239
Speaker 1: dot com is the email address. Uh, let's go to

776
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:22,320
Speaker 1: the phone. See what people have to say. I dare,

777
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 1: I dare say it won't be good. But anyway, Dan's

778
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:31,279
Speaker 1: and Maryland? What's up? Dan's going to remove? Hey turner? Um,

779
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 1: I want to bob you guys to feel all the

780
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:35,279
Speaker 1: work after the game. I learned this pretty hard. You know,

781
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 1: we act and right again after like that. Um, but

782
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:40,960
Speaker 1: all you guys put out good auticles, So thank you,

783
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 1: thank you, thank you. I just I find it unbelievable.

784
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 1: How keeps happening, you know, the delay of games on

785
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:50,720
Speaker 1: the offensive, the punk thing when no one was looking,

786
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 1: and it's just meets from the season, and I just

787
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 1: don't know how to say six coaching. I don't know.

788
00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:59,480
Speaker 1: And the last thing is, um, how many players do

789
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 1: you think get a spot next season? Like, regardless of

790
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 1: the contract, how many guys you think have earned a

791
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 1: spot on this team? All right? Thanks? Thank you? Well,

792
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 1: I mean certainly, I hope they keep myers. You know,

793
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:20,879
Speaker 1: Stevenson has earned a spot. David Andrews isn't going anywhere. Well, um,

794
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 1: you know, um, I haven't heard anyone. I think equality

795
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:27,279
Speaker 1: has been good. I think Judean stays obviously. I mean,

796
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:30,880
Speaker 1: there isn't. I think there's a there's stuff to build

797
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 1: on here. Someone gave you a first round pick, would

798
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 1: you trade them for the Judon first round pick? Yeah?

799
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:39,880
Speaker 1: At this point, yeah, I think so they won't. I

800
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 1: don't think they get a first round pick for him,

801
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:45,400
Speaker 1: but I would, I would trade. They might, but they won't. Yeah,

802
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:47,400
Speaker 1: I mean I think I think, I think there's plenty

803
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 1: of players of the team that you could are good

804
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:53,440
Speaker 1: players and you can build with. I think there's some

805
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 1: players and I think, you know, the rookie Marcus Jones

806
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:58,919
Speaker 1: is a big part of that. I just think they're

807
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:01,960
Speaker 1: lacking in places where they really need it the most now,

808
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:05,160
Speaker 1: which is you know, receiver and you know, a tight

809
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:07,360
Speaker 1: end that can change the game a little bit, maybe linebacker.

810
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 1: But I mean, I think there are pieces on defense,

811
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:10,760
Speaker 1: and you know, you put a couple of good pieces

812
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:13,400
Speaker 1: in there and reinforce a couple of spots, maybe cornerback,

813
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 1: and you know, I think they'll be okay on defense

814
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 1: with you know, some of the pieces they have. They

815
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 1: certainly need more, but I think when you look at

816
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:21,920
Speaker 1: what's coming back that they're not in terrible shape there.

817
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:23,360
Speaker 1: But I just I don't know how much it matters

818
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:27,440
Speaker 1: until you get a functional offense and players that can

819
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:30,479
Speaker 1: execute that functional offense. I mean, that's the thing. It's

820
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 1: it's not complimentary offense. We hope to give each other hope,

821
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 1: but not that the offense is given the defense any

822
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 1: hope at this time of year. I mean, it's just

823
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:41,759
Speaker 1: it seems like it's it's the defense is like, man,

824
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:44,399
Speaker 1: we got five straight stops, we gave you a touchdown, like,

825
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 1: and we still have to get the final stop. Like

826
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:48,880
Speaker 1: there's you know, they have to do it by themselves,

827
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 1: like and I don't. I mean, I don't know if

828
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 1: they're gonna win one of these last three games, but

829
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 1: if they do, it's probably gonna be because the defense

830
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 1: are the special teams step up and make either a

831
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 1: game you know, it has to be like a game

832
00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:00,400
Speaker 1: making play and then a game ceiling play. Theyre probably

833
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:02,239
Speaker 1: gonna have to do both. I hate to say it,

834
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 1: but like I have gotten to the point where if

835
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 1: they beat anybody of any substance, to me, it's going

836
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:11,920
Speaker 1: to involve the other team just not showing like the Raiders.

837
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:16,280
Speaker 1: The Raiders stink, They stink they should have blown their fifth,

838
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:22,360
Speaker 1: fifth double digit lead at half, right, Yep, they basically

839
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 1: that is what they are. It's not like you were

840
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:26,319
Speaker 1: the only ones to do it to him. That's what

841
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:28,759
Speaker 1: they do. They stink. That to me is that's the

842
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:31,880
Speaker 1: Patriots imo to win. The team pukes. If you look

843
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 1: at some of the contracts, just to answer the question

844
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 1: about like who might not be here, there's an out

845
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 1: in Trent Brown's contract, but he's really affordable for next year,

846
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:42,800
Speaker 1: so I still think that they probably keep him around.

847
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 1: There's an out and Hunter Henry's contract and Johnny Smith

848
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:49,440
Speaker 1: you're stuck with right contractually, you're stuck with him until

849
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 1: next at least next offseason. So maybe they cut ties

850
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:56,839
Speaker 1: with one of those post June first ones, and you know,

851
00:40:57,600 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 1: I know it's a big cappy. You could eat some

852
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:02,160
Speaker 1: of the money that way. But I wonder if they

853
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 1: look at it and say, you know, let's although I

854
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:07,280
Speaker 1: think Hunter Henry has been the better of the two guys,

855
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:11,319
Speaker 1: allocating that much money to both guys at the tight

856
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 1: end position is a lot of money, and that ten

857
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:16,839
Speaker 1: million dollars that you get from cutting Hunter Henry while

858
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:19,840
Speaker 1: you still have a serviceable tight end and John Smith

859
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:23,239
Speaker 1: on the roster, that might allow you to then use

860
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 1: that extra ten million bucks to get a receiver that

861
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 1: makes a bigger impact on the offense. I just look

862
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:30,800
Speaker 1: at Hunter Henry and Jacobe Meyer's situations and just connect

863
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:32,880
Speaker 1: them directly to Mac and not even on the field.

864
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:34,920
Speaker 1: Just you know Mac. I mean, we heard what he

865
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 1: said about Jacoby after the game being one of his

866
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 1: best friends, you know, Like, like, how much a part

867
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:41,960
Speaker 1: of the plan this year is we got to keep

868
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 1: Mac on the system, you know? And are you able

869
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:47,560
Speaker 1: to do that if you then let Jacoby walk cut

870
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:49,480
Speaker 1: Hunter Henry, you know, like two of his I think

871
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 1: you can if it's if you get him a real coach.

872
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:54,960
Speaker 1: I think that a lot of the frustrations for Mac

873
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 1: will go away. Like if Bill O'Brien's here next year,

874
00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 1: then I don't think he's gonna care about the persons.

875
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 1: Can we talk about that too? I just Bill, why

876
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:03,360
Speaker 1: are we putting like and I totally agree. I'm just

877
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:06,800
Speaker 1: saying I think everybody is just now save us. Bill O'Brien,

878
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:08,719
Speaker 1: You're the only hope you're the only one who can

879
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 1: do with Bill O'Brien. Like, I just feel like we're

880
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 1: putting all our chips on Bill O'Brien to save this

881
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 1: team next year. And I'm not convinced he's gonna come

882
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:17,799
Speaker 1: here for sure, So you know, there's got to be

883
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 1: some other options that they consider. Everybody just keeps going

884
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:25,759
Speaker 1: right to Bill O'Brien. Yeah, even regardless. It's just that

885
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 1: it's putting so much on him to just make everything

886
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 1: right again and and and bring it back to what

887
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 1: it was. And I mean, I don't even know even

888
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 1: if Bill Bill O'Brien does come here that he's got

889
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 1: that magic one. Now. I love Bill O'Brien, and I

890
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 1: think he'd be great with Mac. I think like his

891
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:41,759
Speaker 1: temperament with like dealing with this stuff will be a

892
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 1: lot better. But I just I don't want to put

893
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 1: all all my eggs in that one basket of Bill

894
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 1: O'Brien being the only guy that can come in here

895
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 1: and fix it. Uh, Danielle's and Illinois, what's up? Danielle?

896
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:55,720
Speaker 1: Hey guys, So if I can't call in tomorrow or Thursday,

897
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 1: I just want to wish you guys a merry Christmas. Oh,

898
00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 1: thank you, thank you you too, Oday, Yeah, thank you.

899
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:03,480
Speaker 1: But you guys actually just touching on why I called in.

900
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 1: I was hoping somebody would say it on the postgame show.

901
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:07,759
Speaker 1: I think it's about like almost an hour end. They

902
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 1: finally brought up Matt Patricia. Now, the few fans I

903
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 1: find around here, we're all having kind of like the

904
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:16,319
Speaker 1: same issues, and we're not putting it all on Matt

905
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:19,920
Speaker 1: Patricia because clearly like we've got a lot offensively that

906
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 1: there's a lot of problems, but we're all just kind

907
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 1: of like, oh, what if you know, we still had

908
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:26,839
Speaker 1: Josh McDaniels. They're like, you're talking about bill O Brian

909
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:29,879
Speaker 1: and how would you guys feel? I know it's like hypothetical,

910
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 1: but what do you think do you think our season

911
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:35,280
Speaker 1: would be? You think we would have a different standing

912
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 1: on a little bit more wins if we had somebody else.

913
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 1: I know it's hard because it's like, who you know,

914
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:42,799
Speaker 1: if we had somebody and they could be worse. I

915
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:44,879
Speaker 1: think it's how do you guys feel? I think I

916
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 1: think combination of someone else and a different attitude going

917
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:52,720
Speaker 1: into the spring. Really, I mean, because remember they made

918
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 1: this change to the offense. And from that point through

919
00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 1: training camp, even when you're playing in shorts, this offense

920
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 1: hasn't looked good. So to me, that's all wasted time.

921
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 1: All this experimenting with all this other stuff was wasted time.

922
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 1: So if you combine not doing that and someone else,

923
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 1: I think this offense would be looking better. Yeah, now

924
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:17,720
Speaker 1: would it be. It wouldn't be Kansas City or the Bills,

925
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:20,120
Speaker 1: but it would look better. It would look more like

926
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:23,440
Speaker 1: an NFL offense, which it doesn't look like right now. Yeah,

927
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:26,239
Speaker 1: you know it's hard. This is such a low bar.

928
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:28,799
Speaker 1: It's like, well, what would happen if they were eighteenth

929
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:30,759
Speaker 1: on third down or eighteenth the red zone? You know,

930
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:32,719
Speaker 1: like an average off But that's the thing, like we

931
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:35,359
Speaker 1: have to remember how bad it looked in training cam.

932
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 1: You know, same thing even with CAM, the numbers with

933
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:42,439
Speaker 1: Cam Newton, it didn't look it didn't look like that

934
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:45,399
Speaker 1: bad like CAM look bad, like oh this is CAM,

935
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 1: this is CAM bad. Yeah, I mean if it's like

936
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:50,719
Speaker 1: the numbers are strikingly similar to the year the cam

937
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 1: in to Evans point, why it's worse because you eliminate

938
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 1: the Cam Newton right right right, If you don't even

939
00:44:57,719 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 1: have that to fall back. That was a sad realization

940
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 1: I can't in the last day or so, was that

941
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:04,239
Speaker 1: this has been a worse off off. I mean just

942
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 1: like it was just like looking up some things like

943
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 1: the Patriots have scored thirty touchdowns, the Raiders only have

944
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:15,319
Speaker 1: thirty five. Like so even like the defense, like that's

945
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 1: what the Raiders do. Well, that's what everybody else play

946
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 1: second half if you just added first half touchdowns the Raiders.

947
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:22,880
Speaker 1: But what I'm what I'm saying is that's what the

948
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:25,840
Speaker 1: Raiders are. Like they tried, they tried to keep you

949
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:28,480
Speaker 1: in it, like in the race, they tried to hand

950
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 1: you the game, I know, and you couldn't take it.

951
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 1: Like that's the frustrating part about it is you took it.

952
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:37,839
Speaker 1: I just couldn't. Like they didn't even do anything to

953
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:41,279
Speaker 1: take it. They just like it's so frustrating. I know

954
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:43,720
Speaker 1: I sound like a baby, but I think they're eleven

955
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:47,279
Speaker 1: win team with Josh McDaniels, I they're eleven win team.

956
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:50,919
Speaker 1: They went from seventh and scoring seventh and red zone

957
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:55,439
Speaker 1: seventh on third down, seventh across the board to seventeenth,

958
00:45:55,520 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 1: thirty second and twenty ninth and I snumbers are what

959
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:04,720
Speaker 1: they are. I don't I don't love like third down

960
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:07,239
Speaker 1: because I think first and second down often contribute to

961
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 1: third down percentages. But typically speaking, third down and red

962
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 1: zone are schemed downs, right like, those are scheme situations

963
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 1: where having good schemes, being on the right, on the

964
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:26,439
Speaker 1: same page execute like those are. There's a reason why

965
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:28,879
Speaker 1: we isolate those two things and make a big deal

966
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 1: out of the stats with those two things is because

967
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:34,319
Speaker 1: those are schemes situations. And it's same thing on the

968
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:36,839
Speaker 1: defensive side of the football. Third down. When you watch

969
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 1: the Patriots defense, that's when they run their exotics, right like,

970
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 1: that's when they get into their pressure package. That's when

971
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 1: they start to spin the dial in the back end.

972
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 1: The first and second stuff is your base offense. Third

973
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 1: down is where you make your money as a coaching staff.

974
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:52,160
Speaker 1: And they're they're twenty ninth in the league on third

975
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 1: down there, So that that tells you right there that

976
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:59,680
Speaker 1: they have nothing in the bag on third down. Nothing

977
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:02,959
Speaker 1: that takes anybody by surprise, nothing that is different. Nothing,

978
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:05,920
Speaker 1: They have no variety. It's the same thing over and

979
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:09,240
Speaker 1: over again. And the Raiders, the Raiders are just dropping

980
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:12,440
Speaker 1: help defenders right into the passing lane. Widows like they

981
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 1: just knew exactly where to you know, distribute Derek coverage

982
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:19,840
Speaker 1: because they knew exactly what play the Patriots are running.

983
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:24,360
Speaker 1: And that to me is such a major difference between

984
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 1: a coordinate, well coordinate offense. And I'm not even getting

985
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 1: into route spacing and details and timing and all those

986
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:36,000
Speaker 1: other things that go into coordination and coaching as well,

987
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:38,440
Speaker 1: that is completely off with this offense. All Right, We're

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00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:34,600
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Speaker 1: throwing across the little fau is gonna be caught by

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00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:39,120
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Speaker 1: coming across the middle, left to right, tackled up the Patriot.

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00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:46,760
Speaker 1: Forty four eight seconds to go in the quarter. Joe's

1042
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:49,960
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00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:52,759
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00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:54,400
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00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 1: Ron Bartman, but he's got a first down on a

1046
00:50:56,800 --> 00:51:00,800
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00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:03,480
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00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:12,080
Speaker 1: scrawls across the sideline, touchdown Patriot. They got the field,

1050
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:15,319
Speaker 1: called time out. Wait a minute, Yeah, tell Trimpermol when

1051
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 1: I'm at New England called it per Hard sne out

1052
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:20,719
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1054
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:26,960
Speaker 1: That's a disaster. Fred had the touchdown. Throw the Myers

1055
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Speaker 1: if it wasn't. They called time out just before the

1056
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Speaker 1: snap dysfunction deployed Nick Pole for a field goal. Try

1057
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Speaker 1: looking to tie it up. Both go straight on inside

1058
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:45,560
Speaker 1: the right hash twenty four yards away staff from card

1059
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:48,840
Speaker 1: Yoda to Pilardi kick Gary Barn to the uprights is

1060
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 1: good shot, good step card driss Back throws it down

1061
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 1: the middle line up the receiver easy pat on the wall,

1062
00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:57,640
Speaker 1: all by his loves him as he returned to the

1063
00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:01,439
Speaker 1: waiter's line up and gives lost vague a nine three

1064
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:03,920
Speaker 1: league from the twenty six. Give to Steve us a

1065
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 1: big hole up. The metal runs across the thirty five,

1066
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:09,839
Speaker 1: takes out a defender ten barrels his way forward outside

1067
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:14,200
Speaker 1: the forty three at Bilardi waits inside the thirty five.

1068
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:17,600
Speaker 1: Although I happened, what do we for a second had

1069
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:20,280
Speaker 1: a bocket's away. It's gonna be picked up by peppers

1070
00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:24,400
Speaker 1: in the backfield and they's gonna be tackled at the twenty.

1071
00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:30,360
Speaker 1: They weren't sat and he snapped it. You got guys,

1072
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 1: turn around looking at the putter. What are we doing?

1073
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:39,120
Speaker 1: Hatreds with an enormous breakdown car with both hands, takes

1074
00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 1: the step waist time stands at the pocket. He throws

1075
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:44,759
Speaker 1: it blow flock over all. He makes a tumbling catch,

1076
00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:47,840
Speaker 1: gets a touchdown Rudders with more seconds to go in

1077
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:49,840
Speaker 1: the half. All you gotta do is shut back and

1078
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:53,960
Speaker 1: flo when you weren't mouth brightness, find the matchup. You

1079
00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:58,279
Speaker 1: get an eighty four, You get it to ten. Get

1080
00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:00,840
Speaker 1: peet off the chip could have got called for a

1081
00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:06,360
Speaker 1: hold over the last play boy. You just gave him seven.

1082
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:09,960
Speaker 1: He's just handed him seven on a silver platter. I'm

1083
00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:11,640
Speaker 1: gonna say it may like you. You're saying it going

1084
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:13,560
Speaker 1: to break here when you need a gift buck depress.

1085
00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:16,120
Speaker 1: It feels like this guy can give it to you.

1086
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:21,320
Speaker 1: Writers do it early, and they've gone more conservative with

1087
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:24,680
Speaker 1: Carl Overall nine for seventeen as the game has gone on.

1088
00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:26,960
Speaker 1: Now the two tight ends to the right a second

1089
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:30,160
Speaker 1: and six they quit running. He picked off and distivating

1090
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:35,040
Speaker 1: Denner walks in touchdown. Adrian, what I just tell you,

1091
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:38,719
Speaker 1: this guy who wears them for four will give you one,

1092
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:43,000
Speaker 1: and he just gifted you a pick and six. Give

1093
00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:45,000
Speaker 1: the Steamers and runs through the right side. He's gotta

1094
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:47,640
Speaker 1: wait hold he curious crowding fifteen Clift the head of

1095
00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:50,880
Speaker 1: crock for twenty, God and faith before he dives across

1096
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:54,520
Speaker 1: the twenty mind the twenty yard line. Cardiona over the

1097
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:56,759
Speaker 1: football to staff at the polaris right. He is down.

1098
00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 1: He receives the staff. Folks switch the right leg. It's

1099
00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:04,839
Speaker 1: a line drive. Now the bettle. It's good next folk

1100
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:08,000
Speaker 1: had enough leg there from forty seven and the Patriots

1101
00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:11,040
Speaker 1: draw within four staff of back to Barry dropped back

1102
00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:14,000
Speaker 1: and Chee rushing from the blinds. Yeah, trap nothing Defley

1103
00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:16,440
Speaker 1: takes him down. But it was hut Jay from the

1104
00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:20,760
Speaker 1: line side, continuing his late season surge as a pass rusher.

1105
00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:23,480
Speaker 1: Her forced Car to slide up in the pocket right

1106
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:26,120
Speaker 1: in the grass of Jowan Betley. I yet to see him.

1107
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:28,640
Speaker 1: Sit in there, take a hit and deliver the ball.

1108
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:33,000
Speaker 1: Here comes next ball to attapt a fifty four yard

1109
00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:37,400
Speaker 1: field goal. Bulk is three for four this season from

1110
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:40,200
Speaker 1: fifty plus the longest of twenty twenty two for fifty

1111
00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:43,240
Speaker 1: two from an air half try on his staff books

1112
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:46,440
Speaker 1: take the line drive headed to the upright now the

1113
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:52,160
Speaker 1: kickstart the shout the staff to back. He looks down

1114
00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:54,600
Speaker 1: the middle, keep fires down a minute quarried open jack

1115
00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:57,480
Speaker 1: coy virus in a catch, got left quep back right

1116
00:54:57,719 --> 00:55:00,880
Speaker 1: hamper from me time tack. What it'side thirty five and

1117
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:04,080
Speaker 1: the thirty four not a boy back. It's a one

1118
00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:07,160
Speaker 1: point game, and Jones under center. I give the steaments

1119
00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 1: and runs it to the right and go home up

1120
00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:11,360
Speaker 1: to the good. Five to the tens and the five

1121
00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:17,120
Speaker 1: ten zone found. Patriots take the lead touchdown doing gun

1122
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:21,880
Speaker 1: back back two huge place thirty nun yonder and then

1123
00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:25,240
Speaker 1: the dagger with stements and a right tackle. The safety

1124
00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:29,719
Speaker 1: not even in play. In another ultimate collapse by the

1125
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:34,640
Speaker 1: Las Vegas Raiders, the Patriots will go for two with

1126
00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:40,000
Speaker 1: their lead of twenty two seventeen four men motion to

1127
00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:43,279
Speaker 1: the right, take break, Q me draw Joes, take the staff.

1128
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:45,359
Speaker 1: He's gonna throw a lot left the march. He's so good,

1129
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:48,520
Speaker 1: an easy catch. Pull the pitch from Jones for two.

1130
00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:51,680
Speaker 1: That might be the best in play called map Patricia

1131
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:53,879
Speaker 1: this year. All on an air half right. I had

1132
00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:56,439
Speaker 1: shotgun staff, kitar a bush timing for the right, goes

1133
00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:58,839
Speaker 1: a long ball left that fat in the ampson. It's

1134
00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:03,800
Speaker 1: gonna be fine, cold back quarter touch down, Las Vegas.

1135
00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:07,359
Speaker 1: Marcus Jones, you gotta go to the cube. I don't

1136
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:10,839
Speaker 1: think it. He covered for the Patriots. The play will

1137
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:13,960
Speaker 1: be reviewed and here is after I'm going to play

1138
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:20,080
Speaker 1: the run on the field. Fansite roll down a third

1139
00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:22,400
Speaker 1: and ten three seconds left, Jones will give it the

1140
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:24,120
Speaker 1: steam Ons and he started right. He runs it up

1141
00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:25,880
Speaker 1: the middle. Hit my Chandler. Jones slips. They had across

1142
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:28,080
Speaker 1: the Polly five for the ship, far off the tack

1143
00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:30,400
Speaker 1: up the Corty. He lost the football and Jacob me

1144
00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:32,439
Speaker 1: Buyers picks it up. He circles back and he throws

1145
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:34,520
Speaker 1: it across the field. Rid my god, he picked up

1146
00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:37,239
Speaker 1: my Chanler jokes. He breaks away to the thirty. He

1147
00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:40,279
Speaker 1: runs to the twenty. He run from the tad. He

1148
00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:50,120
Speaker 1: runs for the end. Joe on the three touchdown raters Tony.

1149
00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:53,080
Speaker 1: This might be one of the dumbest teams I've ever seen,

1150
00:56:55,160 --> 00:57:04,279
Speaker 1: and a victory for launched Vegas. Hey pat Fans, I'm

1151
00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:06,520
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1159
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:29,120
Speaker 1: that play from the other night will probably be a

1160
00:57:29,240 --> 00:57:32,000
Speaker 1: digital moment at some point. Did you come up with

1161
00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:35,160
Speaker 1: a name for it yet? Forget um? I had flow

1162
00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:37,040
Speaker 1: come up for the name. I thought I had fail

1163
00:57:38,080 --> 00:57:43,000
Speaker 1: Fail Mary fail lateral, that's Mary. Well, it wasn't a

1164
00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:47,800
Speaker 1: hail Mary, I know, but the fail Mary's seattle right

1165
00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:52,480
Speaker 1: from that that ref scabs game a few years ago.

1166
00:57:52,520 --> 00:57:56,160
Speaker 1: I remember that. Yeah, yeah, all right, well Fred had

1167
00:57:56,160 --> 00:57:58,680
Speaker 1: to duck out important business. We don't take anyone was

1168
00:57:58,880 --> 00:58:00,680
Speaker 1: talking about this game anymore. I don't blame him. He

1169
00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:02,600
Speaker 1: put it. He pushed the mic away and stormed off.

1170
00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:05,400
Speaker 1: So you're you're stuck with Deuce whole hosting here, started

1171
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:09,360
Speaker 1: mumbling things about the offense, wasn't I didn't know what

1172
00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:12,360
Speaker 1: he was talking about. I was sitting there going, I

1173
00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:14,560
Speaker 1: can't wait to say no, no, no, no, no freends

1174
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:17,280
Speaker 1: right when ever didn't really defend Fred, I was like, okay,

1175
00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:19,360
Speaker 1: I must be right. I was. I wasn't in the

1176
00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:21,760
Speaker 1: mood to get into it, but yeah, I I just

1177
00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:24,080
Speaker 1: it's been the same offense. It's been the same mistakes

1178
00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:26,120
Speaker 1: it's been I wanted to though, I wanted just to

1179
00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:28,120
Speaker 1: do this to Evan. Evan, how about that sequence though,

1180
00:58:28,120 --> 00:58:30,080
Speaker 1: when they got down to the to the two yard line,

1181
00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:32,960
Speaker 1: Why did you want to do that just because of

1182
00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:34,520
Speaker 1: that look on your face that I just wanted to

1183
00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:37,000
Speaker 1: see you and have you okay, so angry and walk

1184
00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:39,520
Speaker 1: us through. That's a far bigger problem. That sequence is

1185
00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:41,400
Speaker 1: a far bigger problem than the last player. That's why

1186
00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:45,280
Speaker 1: I bring it up. I don't want to break down

1187
00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:48,040
Speaker 1: like the actual XS and nose of what they called.

1188
00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:51,400
Speaker 1: It's what they didn't call to me, the fact that

1189
00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:56,959
Speaker 1: this team, well, first and goal from the two yard line,

1190
00:58:57,520 --> 00:59:01,439
Speaker 1: get the cornerback under center and run the damn ball

1191
00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:03,840
Speaker 1: into the end zone. Like I don't understand that. I

1192
00:59:03,880 --> 00:59:05,560
Speaker 1: don't even care if you want I would do that.

1193
00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:07,840
Speaker 1: I agree, just run the ball. I don't care if

1194
00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:09,960
Speaker 1: you want to do it out a shotgun that they've

1195
00:59:10,040 --> 00:59:13,480
Speaker 1: tried doing it. There's no way stopped. Stevenson's not getting

1196
00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:15,400
Speaker 1: into the end zone if you give it to him

1197
00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:17,760
Speaker 1: three times. So they ran it from the gun on

1198
00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:21,000
Speaker 1: first or second down, I can't remember off the top

1199
00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:23,520
Speaker 1: of my head. And he almost Mac Jones thought he

1200
00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:25,840
Speaker 1: was in Well Mac Jones does that on every handoff

1201
00:59:25,880 --> 00:59:28,320
Speaker 1: inside the five. But but you understand what I'm like,

1202
00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:31,000
Speaker 1: he gained he gained a yard at least he got

1203
00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:34,000
Speaker 1: inside the one. Yeah, just do the same play. They're

1204
00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:37,080
Speaker 1: not stopped. They were not stopping. So what was surprising

1205
00:59:37,160 --> 00:59:40,760
Speaker 1: to me? And it goes back to a few this

1206
00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:42,680
Speaker 1: is now more than a few years ago. I remember

1207
00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:46,040
Speaker 1: after that Denver game in the playoffs when Von Miller

1208
00:59:46,120 --> 00:59:48,720
Speaker 1: and DeMarcus Warett just destroyed Brady and they lost. And

1209
00:59:48,840 --> 00:59:53,080
Speaker 1: think it's twenty and fifteen season, and Dante's Karnekia after

1210
00:59:53,200 --> 00:59:57,880
Speaker 1: the game said something along the lines of if you

1211
00:59:58,000 --> 00:59:59,760
Speaker 1: can't get because there was a play in the game

1212
00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:01,480
Speaker 1: where if they had picked up a first down I

1213
01:00:01,560 --> 01:00:03,400
Speaker 1: think they would have been in good shape or would

1214
01:00:03,400 --> 01:00:05,360
Speaker 1: have water or whatever. If you can't pick up two

1215
01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:09,640
Speaker 1: yards running the football, then you're you're no good as

1216
01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:11,840
Speaker 1: an offense. Like if you can't if you can't just

1217
01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:14,680
Speaker 1: turn and pick up two yards on the ground, then

1218
01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:18,320
Speaker 1: then you're in trouble. And it comes back to also

1219
01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:21,680
Speaker 1: the lack of a fullback on this team. So you

1220
01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:25,440
Speaker 1: don't have a fullback on the roster fine, put an

1221
01:00:25,520 --> 01:00:28,240
Speaker 1: extra offensive lineman on the field, convert one of the

1222
01:00:28,320 --> 01:00:30,360
Speaker 1: defensive guys like you used to do with Vrabel and

1223
01:00:30,440 --> 01:00:34,720
Speaker 1: Seymore back in the day to okay, rip up Seymour's knee,

1224
01:00:34,760 --> 01:00:37,800
Speaker 1: doing it right to just on the goal line in

1225
01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:39,640
Speaker 1: short yardage. I'm not asking you to do that as

1226
01:00:39,680 --> 01:00:41,720
Speaker 1: like the Landed Roberts thing from a few years ago.

1227
01:00:42,120 --> 01:00:45,200
Speaker 1: But the fact that they insist on spreading the field

1228
01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:47,760
Speaker 1: from inside the two yard line and they don't just

1229
01:00:47,960 --> 01:00:50,720
Speaker 1: put Mac under center and turn it over to your

1230
01:00:50,760 --> 01:00:54,160
Speaker 1: best offensive player and Remandre Stevenson and pound the football

1231
01:00:54,280 --> 01:00:57,320
Speaker 1: into the end zone is how you get all of

1232
01:00:57,400 --> 01:01:01,560
Speaker 1: this disorganization because now you're trying to passing concepts from

1233
01:01:01,640 --> 01:01:04,600
Speaker 1: in tight and it's the space is not there, and

1234
01:01:04,720 --> 01:01:07,040
Speaker 1: you're trying to get it all buttoned up and it's

1235
01:01:07,080 --> 01:01:09,400
Speaker 1: a mess. Like just run the damn ball. How bad

1236
01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:12,280
Speaker 1: did Mac miss JOHNU on that one? Like what happened there?

1237
01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:15,080
Speaker 1: Because he I mean he had John Smith in the back, Okay,

1238
01:01:16,440 --> 01:01:19,320
Speaker 1: to completely excuse Mac, I think Johnny Smith stopped Arount.

1239
01:01:19,360 --> 01:01:24,280
Speaker 1: To be honest with you, he stumbled like everything involving

1240
01:01:24,360 --> 01:01:25,880
Speaker 1: him never looks right, you know how? I said, Like

1241
01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:27,440
Speaker 1: that play to taekwon tho it and on the third

1242
01:01:27,480 --> 01:01:29,320
Speaker 1: that was the only play that I thought looked right. Yeah,

1243
01:01:30,200 --> 01:01:33,080
Speaker 1: that's a player just like I agree with Evan, like

1244
01:01:33,840 --> 01:01:36,600
Speaker 1: it didn't look like he did what he was supposed

1245
01:01:36,600 --> 01:01:39,200
Speaker 1: to do or was where Zack was supposed to be.

1246
01:01:39,600 --> 01:01:41,040
Speaker 1: It's so weird to see an FFL player that I

1247
01:01:41,080 --> 01:01:43,160
Speaker 1: would say is not a great athlete. But it's like

1248
01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:46,000
Speaker 1: he's a tremendous athlete, but he's just not smooth. It

1249
01:01:46,080 --> 01:01:49,320
Speaker 1: doesn't make any sense. I guess that's the line. Um.

1250
01:01:49,640 --> 01:01:53,880
Speaker 1: I will say this, is it possible that everything that

1251
01:01:54,120 --> 01:01:55,960
Speaker 1: you know timing wise just got thrown off by the

1252
01:01:56,040 --> 01:01:59,200
Speaker 1: bump because I was actually I was surprised he didn't

1253
01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:01,080
Speaker 1: get called for in a fan it's on that play. Yeah,

1254
01:02:01,240 --> 01:02:03,520
Speaker 1: as he trucked a guy that that That's the way

1255
01:02:03,560 --> 01:02:05,480
Speaker 1: that I saw it was that it was more of

1256
01:02:05,560 --> 01:02:07,920
Speaker 1: like a timing route thing than all these people posting

1257
01:02:07,960 --> 01:02:10,440
Speaker 1: it and being like Mac Jones missed a wide open receiver.

1258
01:02:10,640 --> 01:02:13,280
Speaker 1: I agree with you. I don't think it was. Yeah,

1259
01:02:13,400 --> 01:02:15,360
Speaker 1: And but the one thing I will say about macause

1260
01:02:15,560 --> 01:02:18,760
Speaker 1: he's not like you go thirteen twenty thirty one or

1261
01:02:18,800 --> 01:02:21,200
Speaker 1: whatever the hell it was, which is his career low

1262
01:02:21,400 --> 01:02:23,560
Speaker 1: I believe in completion rate in the game, and this

1263
01:02:23,800 --> 01:02:25,600
Speaker 1: was the fewest yards he threw he threw in a

1264
01:02:25,640 --> 01:02:28,280
Speaker 1: game outside of the Buffalo win game one hundred and twelve,

1265
01:02:28,520 --> 01:02:30,320
Speaker 1: So second few is in his career in a game.

1266
01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:34,080
Speaker 1: So because he had sixty with like five minutes left

1267
01:02:34,120 --> 01:02:37,400
Speaker 1: in the game. So this was a very bad statistical

1268
01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:40,200
Speaker 1: game for the quarterback as well. I would say that

1269
01:02:40,280 --> 01:02:43,040
Speaker 1: the number one thing that I see with Mac on

1270
01:02:43,160 --> 01:02:45,400
Speaker 1: this film is not necessarily like I felt like all

1271
01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:48,360
Speaker 1: he missed, you know, ten open receivers, Like he's looking

1272
01:02:48,400 --> 01:02:51,120
Speaker 1: in the wrong places. Where's he going here? Where is

1273
01:02:51,120 --> 01:02:55,680
Speaker 1: he going there? Mechanically he's broken. They've broken him mechanically,

1274
01:02:56,000 --> 01:02:57,800
Speaker 1: and I think it stems from the pressure and then

1275
01:02:57,880 --> 01:03:00,400
Speaker 1: the timing of the whole offense being off as well.

1276
01:03:00,800 --> 01:03:03,000
Speaker 1: But he's not throwing from a good bass, so his

1277
01:03:03,080 --> 01:03:05,680
Speaker 1: feet are really close apart, and when you do that,

1278
01:03:06,320 --> 01:03:08,800
Speaker 1: you don't come through the football the way that you should.

1279
01:03:08,840 --> 01:03:11,920
Speaker 1: So his front shoulder is flying open, his feet are

1280
01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:14,400
Speaker 1: like basically on top of each other, and he's kind

1281
01:03:14,440 --> 01:03:16,640
Speaker 1: of just shot putting it at this point, and that's

1282
01:03:16,680 --> 01:03:18,960
Speaker 1: why you're seeing the ball sail on him a lot

1283
01:03:19,040 --> 01:03:21,880
Speaker 1: like those two outs on towards the sideline sailed it.

1284
01:03:21,960 --> 01:03:23,680
Speaker 1: He sailed to one up the seams the first couple

1285
01:03:23,680 --> 01:03:26,840
Speaker 1: of the first couple pass. Yes, those two those two

1286
01:03:26,880 --> 01:03:31,160
Speaker 1: outs were like horrifically bad. Yeah, it's all mechanically. He

1287
01:03:31,320 --> 01:03:34,320
Speaker 1: is totally incompletely broken. Yeah, I agree with you about

1288
01:03:34,320 --> 01:03:37,880
Speaker 1: the pressure too. And I I'm gonna be like Evan here,

1289
01:03:37,920 --> 01:03:39,840
Speaker 1: I'm gonna sound like an apologist and not really mean

1290
01:03:39,960 --> 01:03:42,560
Speaker 1: to be. But I wonder even on that play to

1291
01:03:42,720 --> 01:03:45,800
Speaker 1: Smith in the end zone, like a little bit of pressure,

1292
01:03:45,880 --> 01:03:47,600
Speaker 1: you might you might say that, like, well there's a

1293
01:03:47,640 --> 01:03:50,520
Speaker 1: little timing issue because he gets clucked up, and maybe

1294
01:03:50,600 --> 01:03:52,959
Speaker 1: Mac just said I can't afford to give him another

1295
01:03:52,960 --> 01:03:55,200
Speaker 1: split second here because I won't have that time. Well,

1296
01:03:55,240 --> 01:03:57,640
Speaker 1: Max Crosby was beating Connor McDermott, you know, and maybe

1297
01:03:57,680 --> 01:03:59,640
Speaker 1: he looks at that was like, I just gotta, I gotta,

1298
01:03:59,640 --> 01:04:01,280
Speaker 1: I gotta throw it a little bit before I want to.

1299
01:04:01,680 --> 01:04:04,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna air on the side of caution. So if

1300
01:04:04,720 --> 01:04:06,720
Speaker 1: the worst thing that happens is what happens, you know,

1301
01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:09,919
Speaker 1: we live to fight another day. You know, I'm gonna

1302
01:04:09,920 --> 01:04:12,000
Speaker 1: throw it a little bit too far to the outside

1303
01:04:12,080 --> 01:04:14,919
Speaker 1: so it can't get intercepted, which is why I thought

1304
01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:17,280
Speaker 1: the decision on the slants to Agilo was really bad

1305
01:04:17,280 --> 01:04:20,440
Speaker 1: because that play could have resulted in a similar Malcolm

1306
01:04:20,480 --> 01:04:24,880
Speaker 1: Butler thing, right, did you write that? I think you

1307
01:04:24,920 --> 01:04:26,920
Speaker 1: wrote that. Which one Thornton off on the on the

1308
01:04:26,960 --> 01:04:29,960
Speaker 1: quick slant to Aglare at the goal line, was that

1309
01:04:30,120 --> 01:04:33,800
Speaker 1: I think Thornton was involved in this. No, the way

1310
01:04:33,880 --> 01:04:36,280
Speaker 1: that I saw that one was that he threw it

1311
01:04:36,400 --> 01:04:39,000
Speaker 1: first window right, so like on a like it's slant

1312
01:04:39,080 --> 01:04:41,000
Speaker 1: flat right and then you have the first window and

1313
01:04:41,040 --> 01:04:43,720
Speaker 1: then you're the second window is once he clears the

1314
01:04:43,840 --> 01:04:47,120
Speaker 1: flat route and he threw it first window and he

1315
01:04:47,240 --> 01:04:51,560
Speaker 1: threw a freaking rocket right at Nelson Aguilar's face. But

1316
01:04:51,720 --> 01:04:53,919
Speaker 1: I thought that coverage on that play was good. Yeah,

1317
01:04:54,000 --> 01:04:56,120
Speaker 1: I thought twenty one Robertson I think was I just

1318
01:04:56,160 --> 01:04:58,520
Speaker 1: don't think that Nelson Aglar was really ready for the ball.

1319
01:04:59,480 --> 01:05:02,040
Speaker 1: And but I think the main thing with Mac that

1320
01:05:02,440 --> 01:05:06,200
Speaker 1: did I see is mechanical, which is that you know,

1321
01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:08,880
Speaker 1: like I was saying, his bass, he's not throwing from

1322
01:05:08,880 --> 01:05:11,200
Speaker 1: a good bass, and everything for quarterback starts with your

1323
01:05:11,240 --> 01:05:15,080
Speaker 1: feet right, like it's feet hips, shoulders, eyes like those

1324
01:05:15,120 --> 01:05:17,640
Speaker 1: are the sort of checkpoints that you have to have.

1325
01:05:18,240 --> 01:05:22,680
Speaker 1: And his feet are totally off because he's not trusting

1326
01:05:22,760 --> 01:05:24,760
Speaker 1: that he can step up into the pocket and really

1327
01:05:24,840 --> 01:05:27,640
Speaker 1: have that weight transfer, and because of that, all of

1328
01:05:27,680 --> 01:05:30,200
Speaker 1: his throws are going high. I got got the phone

1329
01:05:30,240 --> 01:05:32,000
Speaker 1: stacked up. I got one more question for you, Evan

1330
01:05:32,080 --> 01:05:34,640
Speaker 1: before up, because you were there and it hard to

1331
01:05:34,680 --> 01:05:36,400
Speaker 1: see on the TV with the mac kind of post

1332
01:05:36,480 --> 01:05:40,600
Speaker 1: snap getting frustrated, pumping the side. Did you get any impression, Well,

1333
01:05:40,640 --> 01:05:42,400
Speaker 1: what was your impression of that in the building, of

1334
01:05:42,760 --> 01:05:45,520
Speaker 1: his kind of just emoting. I guess because I know

1335
01:05:45,600 --> 01:05:47,280
Speaker 1: Bdard was all over it. I mean I saw a

1336
01:05:47,320 --> 01:05:49,120
Speaker 1: couple of things, but I'm up and down, so I

1337
01:05:49,160 --> 01:05:51,480
Speaker 1: didn't see about But but what was your impression. I

1338
01:05:51,520 --> 01:05:54,160
Speaker 1: thought it was worse in Arizona. Yes, I thought it

1339
01:05:54,280 --> 01:05:56,160
Speaker 1: was worse in Arizona than it was with the Raiders.

1340
01:05:56,200 --> 01:05:57,400
Speaker 1: But I got to be honest with you, A lot

1341
01:05:57,480 --> 01:06:00,160
Speaker 1: of that type of stuff you actually see more a

1342
01:06:00,160 --> 01:06:02,440
Speaker 1: bit on TV because they get the camera on him right,

1343
01:06:02,520 --> 01:06:04,800
Speaker 1: Whereas when you're at the game, you're just kind of

1344
01:06:05,520 --> 01:06:07,840
Speaker 1: taking notes and doing, you know, kind of getting ready

1345
01:06:07,880 --> 01:06:11,080
Speaker 1: for the next You're like generally like you're writing, so

1346
01:06:11,320 --> 01:06:12,760
Speaker 1: like that's why I think you miss a lot of

1347
01:06:12,920 --> 01:06:15,000
Speaker 1: in between play stuff and that's when that happens. And

1348
01:06:15,440 --> 01:06:17,840
Speaker 1: Wilmore actually talked about it a little bit like he

1349
01:06:18,040 --> 01:06:19,800
Speaker 1: was still upset when he went over for the time

1350
01:06:19,840 --> 01:06:22,360
Speaker 1: out after the touchdown that got taken away to Myers

1351
01:06:22,920 --> 01:06:25,720
Speaker 1: and now that's that's not helping. Now, Okay, I get it.

1352
01:06:25,800 --> 01:06:28,600
Speaker 1: You're mad, you're frustrated, you know, split second, but now

1353
01:06:28,600 --> 01:06:31,120
Speaker 1: you're over on the sideline and you're going over ostensibly

1354
01:06:31,160 --> 01:06:33,480
Speaker 1: what you're gonna be doing, and you're still ranting a

1355
01:06:33,560 --> 01:06:36,400
Speaker 1: little bit. Yeah, settle down, figured out. Then you go

1356
01:06:36,440 --> 01:06:39,160
Speaker 1: back out in the fourth down, you're demonstratively waiving the

1357
01:06:39,560 --> 01:06:42,120
Speaker 1: field goal team off to which is something that almost

1358
01:06:42,160 --> 01:06:45,040
Speaker 1: every quarterback does. All right, you haven't met a quarterback

1359
01:06:45,080 --> 01:06:48,560
Speaker 1: that doesn't want to go forth down, No problem offensive coordinator, right,

1360
01:06:48,680 --> 01:06:51,320
Speaker 1: no problem with that, not here, but no problem with

1361
01:06:51,440 --> 01:06:53,400
Speaker 1: wanting to go for it and fourth down and showing

1362
01:06:53,680 --> 01:06:55,800
Speaker 1: the sideline out. No, no, we got this. Then they

1363
01:06:55,840 --> 01:06:57,760
Speaker 1: have to call it time out and it's again like

1364
01:06:59,040 --> 01:07:02,200
Speaker 1: you're at the room, push let in the field. Well,

1365
01:07:02,240 --> 01:07:03,920
Speaker 1: then you go out there and you're all jacked up

1366
01:07:03,920 --> 01:07:05,840
Speaker 1: and then you call for the snap before the guy

1367
01:07:06,000 --> 01:07:08,840
Speaker 1: is set right. I have to say that with the

1368
01:07:08,920 --> 01:07:12,080
Speaker 1: Mac outburst, first of all, from a big picture standpoint,

1369
01:07:12,120 --> 01:07:14,800
Speaker 1: I totally understand why he's frustrate because this is too

1370
01:07:14,960 --> 01:07:17,520
Speaker 1: This is his career that's going down the tubes, right,

1371
01:07:17,600 --> 01:07:20,000
Speaker 1: It's it's his career. He's the one that we're saying

1372
01:07:20,080 --> 01:07:22,320
Speaker 1: was thirteen for thirty one. He's the one that looks

1373
01:07:22,360 --> 01:07:26,120
Speaker 1: bad on film. Like, I totally understand it, but I

1374
01:07:26,960 --> 01:07:29,360
Speaker 1: I wonder at what point And and Bill is a

1375
01:07:29,480 --> 01:07:31,960
Speaker 1: very stoic sideline guy for them. He gets pissed off

1376
01:07:31,960 --> 01:07:33,720
Speaker 1: at the rafts, don't get me wrong, But for the

1377
01:07:33,840 --> 01:07:36,720
Speaker 1: most part, he's a very stoic guy. But I wonder

1378
01:07:36,760 --> 01:07:39,560
Speaker 1: at one point he has like a Bill O'Brien moment

1379
01:07:39,640 --> 01:07:43,120
Speaker 1: with Mac during the game and be like, Mac, don't

1380
01:07:43,120 --> 01:07:45,880
Speaker 1: we all want that? Andy, Like you know what I mean,

1381
01:07:46,480 --> 01:07:52,080
Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien to come back more for that than even right,

1382
01:07:52,200 --> 01:07:56,480
Speaker 1: and just sort of tell him like settle the f down, Yeah, right,

1383
01:07:56,640 --> 01:07:59,680
Speaker 1: because this goes in college. They used to call him

1384
01:07:59,680 --> 01:08:01,840
Speaker 1: Mac and right. Nick Saban used to call him Mac

1385
01:08:01,880 --> 01:08:03,720
Speaker 1: and Rush. So this is in him, right, This this

1386
01:08:03,920 --> 01:08:06,600
Speaker 1: kind of teapot, like they used to call Bill O'Brien,

1387
01:08:07,120 --> 01:08:09,640
Speaker 1: this is in him and they had I think the

1388
01:08:09,760 --> 01:08:11,880
Speaker 1: only way is to your point about Bill O'Brien is

1389
01:08:11,960 --> 01:08:14,520
Speaker 1: like the only way to combat it is to fight

1390
01:08:14,640 --> 01:08:18,160
Speaker 1: fire with fire, like Matt Patricia just being like that's

1391
01:08:18,160 --> 01:08:20,000
Speaker 1: not gonna do it, Like you have to get in

1392
01:08:20,120 --> 01:08:22,280
Speaker 1: his face and be like, you know, we got to

1393
01:08:22,360 --> 01:08:24,640
Speaker 1: shut the hell up. All right, let's let's jump over

1394
01:08:24,680 --> 01:08:27,040
Speaker 1: the phones. We got Ben from Pittsfield's been hanging on

1395
01:08:27,080 --> 01:08:32,160
Speaker 1: for a while. Hey, Ben, thanks for calling in. Ben,

1396
01:08:33,280 --> 01:08:36,200
Speaker 1: good job, Hardy. Then are you there? He did, He

1397
01:08:36,320 --> 01:08:38,760
Speaker 1: was holding for a while, so my apologize. Ben called back,

1398
01:08:39,520 --> 01:08:41,839
Speaker 1: if you can, let's go up to Rashot in Baltimore,

1399
01:08:41,880 --> 01:08:45,559
Speaker 1: har Shot. What's going on? Hey, what's up? What's up?

1400
01:08:46,840 --> 01:08:48,720
Speaker 1: I have to say? All right, So as I was

1401
01:08:48,760 --> 01:08:51,439
Speaker 1: watching the game as it got the half time, it

1402
01:08:51,600 --> 01:08:54,360
Speaker 1: was thirteen three, and then I thought of what Mike said.

1403
01:08:54,439 --> 01:08:57,640
Speaker 1: Mike was like, you know the Raiders, they usually have

1404
01:08:57,800 --> 01:08:59,439
Speaker 1: a lead and then they give it up. He was like,

1405
01:09:00,040 --> 01:09:01,479
Speaker 1: that's where we want them. So I'm like, all right,

1406
01:09:01,479 --> 01:09:03,920
Speaker 1: we got them right wherever we want them. So you know,

1407
01:09:04,000 --> 01:09:06,559
Speaker 1: we get to pick now I'm gonna just fast forward

1408
01:09:06,600 --> 01:09:09,160
Speaker 1: to the two minute drive that that drive that the

1409
01:09:09,280 --> 01:09:13,800
Speaker 1: Patriot head like before the Raiders got the ball. I'm like, really,

1410
01:09:13,880 --> 01:09:16,040
Speaker 1: this is this is the three plays that we have

1411
01:09:16,720 --> 01:09:21,360
Speaker 1: and we took up no time, no time, like I know,

1412
01:09:21,600 --> 01:09:26,080
Speaker 1: I like the Jacobe toss back like that was dumb

1413
01:09:26,280 --> 01:09:28,680
Speaker 1: like it was that was that was the That was

1414
01:09:28,800 --> 01:09:32,719
Speaker 1: the dumbest play I've ever seen. But that two minute

1415
01:09:32,760 --> 01:09:36,160
Speaker 1: drive that was brutal. That was brutal. It was brutal

1416
01:09:38,000 --> 01:09:42,000
Speaker 1: drive to know where. Yeah, thanks for sho. I appreciate it. Um, yeah,

1417
01:09:42,120 --> 01:09:45,400
Speaker 1: still still feeling it. Um. Do you think that this

1418
01:09:45,479 --> 01:09:47,160
Speaker 1: game's gonna carry over? Do you think that this is

1419
01:09:47,160 --> 01:09:49,479
Speaker 1: gonna linger? I mean, it's just anything. I mean, are

1420
01:09:49,520 --> 01:09:52,200
Speaker 1: they are they done? Well? I think they're done because

1421
01:09:52,240 --> 01:09:54,519
Speaker 1: of the opponents they play, But that's but do you

1422
01:09:54,600 --> 01:09:56,080
Speaker 1: think it how? I mean, I guess the question is,

1423
01:09:56,160 --> 01:09:57,680
Speaker 1: like I expect how much fight are they going to

1424
01:09:57,760 --> 01:09:59,640
Speaker 1: have left in them against three teams that are all

1425
01:09:59,720 --> 01:10:02,800
Speaker 1: dropped for playoff position, that need wins and that certainly

1426
01:10:02,880 --> 01:10:05,120
Speaker 1: have no love lost for the Patriots and would like

1427
01:10:05,240 --> 01:10:07,840
Speaker 1: nothing more than to, you know, come in here beat

1428
01:10:07,880 --> 01:10:10,719
Speaker 1: the Patriots again. I mean I could make an argument

1429
01:10:10,760 --> 01:10:12,639
Speaker 1: on both sides for that, Like, if I were Buffalo,

1430
01:10:16,200 --> 01:10:18,560
Speaker 1: I'd rather have the Patriots in the playoffs than the alternatives.

1431
01:10:19,200 --> 01:10:22,160
Speaker 1: Oh sure, light, I mean, this is a team that

1432
01:10:22,200 --> 01:10:26,799
Speaker 1: they've handled, and you know they have their handsful with Miami.

1433
01:10:27,160 --> 01:10:29,080
Speaker 1: They have their handsful with the Jets every time they

1434
01:10:29,120 --> 01:10:32,200
Speaker 1: play them. Casey, you know, I would much rather if

1435
01:10:32,280 --> 01:10:34,919
Speaker 1: I had, If I had my choice to be kingmaker,

1436
01:10:34,960 --> 01:10:37,760
Speaker 1: and I'm Sean McDermot that last game. Now, obviously you're

1437
01:10:37,760 --> 01:10:39,519
Speaker 1: gonna take care of yourself. If you need that win

1438
01:10:39,640 --> 01:10:41,639
Speaker 1: to clinch the number one seed, for sure, you're gonna

1439
01:10:41,680 --> 01:10:43,160
Speaker 1: win the game. You're gonna try to win the game.

1440
01:10:43,800 --> 01:10:45,880
Speaker 1: But if I haven't, you know, let's say they lose.

1441
01:10:46,240 --> 01:10:49,640
Speaker 1: Let's say that Buffalo loses at Cincinnati next week and

1442
01:10:49,800 --> 01:10:52,400
Speaker 1: Kansas City has three three games that they really should win.

1443
01:10:54,200 --> 01:10:58,439
Speaker 1: So now you're a game behind, and maybe Buffalo said says, well,

1444
01:10:58,439 --> 01:11:01,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be the two seed. Who's going to be seven?

1445
01:11:01,800 --> 01:11:06,360
Speaker 1: Would I rather play Miami or the Patriots or Jacksonville

1446
01:11:06,479 --> 01:11:09,160
Speaker 1: or Herbert in the charge Jacksonville. I think if Jacksonville

1447
01:11:09,160 --> 01:11:11,200
Speaker 1: makes the playoffs, they're gonna have to be the division winner.

1448
01:11:11,240 --> 01:11:13,680
Speaker 1: They're gonna overtake tennis, right I think. I mean, yeah,

1449
01:11:13,840 --> 01:11:16,320
Speaker 1: I'm sure there's a mathematical chance that they have of

1450
01:11:16,560 --> 01:11:19,679
Speaker 1: making a wild card. But and I say it only

1451
01:11:19,720 --> 01:11:21,960
Speaker 1: half in jest, because I think that Buffalo will try

1452
01:11:22,000 --> 01:11:23,519
Speaker 1: to win their games. I thought, I don't think they'll

1453
01:11:23,520 --> 01:11:25,920
Speaker 1: be rolling over in that last game because I really

1454
01:11:25,960 --> 01:11:27,880
Speaker 1: don't see a scenario that they don't need to win

1455
01:11:27,960 --> 01:11:30,680
Speaker 1: the game. Yeah, you know, because I don't think kids

1456
01:11:30,720 --> 01:11:32,439
Speaker 1: the city is gonna lose, and I think Buffalo is

1457
01:11:32,479 --> 01:11:35,160
Speaker 1: gonna win enough. They're gonna win at least one game.

1458
01:11:35,200 --> 01:11:37,240
Speaker 1: I think they could lose that Cincinnati in two weeks.

1459
01:11:37,720 --> 01:11:39,800
Speaker 1: Did that ever really happen for the Patriots? I mean,

1460
01:11:39,800 --> 01:11:41,439
Speaker 1: there were so many times where they were like having

1461
01:11:41,479 --> 01:11:43,560
Speaker 1: to decide if they wanted to play starters. At the

1462
01:11:43,680 --> 01:11:45,519
Speaker 1: end of the season, things are already clinched that they

1463
01:11:45,640 --> 01:11:48,080
Speaker 1: specifically chose. Evan might remember this because this is going

1464
01:11:48,160 --> 01:11:50,080
Speaker 1: to be the height of like your like sort of

1465
01:11:50,640 --> 01:11:53,479
Speaker 1: childhood fandom. The year that they lost on purpose to

1466
01:11:53,560 --> 01:11:55,880
Speaker 1: Miami so they could play Jacksonville in the wildcard game.

1467
01:11:56,360 --> 01:11:59,400
Speaker 1: I think it was six oh five, oh six somewhere

1468
01:11:59,479 --> 01:12:01,479
Speaker 1: in that they they could be it was the game

1469
01:12:01,560 --> 01:12:04,200
Speaker 1: that they made Matt Castle airmailed a two point conversion

1470
01:12:04,640 --> 01:12:06,439
Speaker 1: so they wouldn't tie the game at the end against

1471
01:12:06,479 --> 01:12:09,400
Speaker 1: Miami in a meaningless last game. But that was because

1472
01:12:09,479 --> 01:12:12,400
Speaker 1: they wanted to play Jacksonville in a wild card. Yeah.

1473
01:12:12,400 --> 01:12:13,960
Speaker 1: I was at that game. I think McGinnis brook the

1474
01:12:14,000 --> 01:12:17,200
Speaker 1: sack record Jacksonville. And it was so cold that we

1475
01:12:17,240 --> 01:12:19,680
Speaker 1: were all drinking hot chocolate. And I was probably like

1476
01:12:20,000 --> 01:12:24,040
Speaker 1: twelve or thirteen, and in that hot shot, my uncle,

1477
01:12:24,080 --> 01:12:28,519
Speaker 1: who was hammered, handed me the Schnops hot chocolate instead

1478
01:12:28,560 --> 01:12:33,080
Speaker 1: of the real hot chocolate. And I took a sip

1479
01:12:33,160 --> 01:12:35,240
Speaker 1: of it. And my sister was with me at the game,

1480
01:12:35,280 --> 01:12:36,599
Speaker 1: and I turned to her and I was like, jackson

1481
01:12:36,720 --> 01:12:41,479
Speaker 1: doesn't taste right that alcohol at it. It's awesome, it's twelve,

1482
01:12:41,560 --> 01:12:46,080
Speaker 1: but thirteen, did you keep it? I was still too

1483
01:12:46,160 --> 01:12:48,080
Speaker 1: young at that point to even want to do that.

1484
01:12:48,200 --> 01:12:52,600
Speaker 1: I was, I was adweep. I don't really see a

1485
01:12:52,720 --> 01:12:55,759
Speaker 1: ton of examples where like you can just openly physically

1486
01:12:55,840 --> 01:12:59,040
Speaker 1: see a team is not trying to win. And I

1487
01:12:59,120 --> 01:13:00,560
Speaker 1: don't think that that will see that. I think the

1488
01:13:00,600 --> 01:13:03,280
Speaker 1: Patriots will go into these games. They're gonna put a

1489
01:13:03,320 --> 01:13:05,160
Speaker 1: game playing together, and they're gonna do their best. I

1490
01:13:05,240 --> 01:13:08,479
Speaker 1: think if they fall behind, you're not gonna necessarily see

1491
01:13:08,800 --> 01:13:11,840
Speaker 1: balls to the wall come back attempt. They're going to

1492
01:13:11,920 --> 01:13:14,639
Speaker 1: be some business decisions being made. Like when they played

1493
01:13:14,640 --> 01:13:16,479
Speaker 1: at Buffalo in the playoff game last year. You go

1494
01:13:16,560 --> 01:13:18,400
Speaker 1: back and watch the second half, I can show, I can.

1495
01:13:18,640 --> 01:13:22,519
Speaker 1: I could circle four or five different individuals, and they're

1496
01:13:22,520 --> 01:13:24,080
Speaker 1: not all players that are gone. By the way, I

1497
01:13:24,160 --> 01:13:26,639
Speaker 1: know everybody likes to say jay Z Jackson made business choices.

1498
01:13:26,800 --> 01:13:29,680
Speaker 1: He did absolutely equit in the second half of that game.

1499
01:13:29,920 --> 01:13:32,639
Speaker 1: He wasn't alone. That's what happens when you no longer

1500
01:13:32,720 --> 01:13:34,880
Speaker 1: think you have a chance, and now you don't have

1501
01:13:34,920 --> 01:13:38,519
Speaker 1: a chance in this game. Let's make sure. Let's make

1502
01:13:38,560 --> 01:13:40,840
Speaker 1: sure I don't have any offseason surgeries to worry about.

1503
01:13:40,880 --> 01:13:43,120
Speaker 1: You know, it gets well. That is an interesting question

1504
01:13:43,160 --> 01:13:45,720
Speaker 1: to ponder. A Bill's team trying to lose against the

1505
01:13:45,760 --> 01:13:48,760
Speaker 1: Patriots offense trying to move the ball. What would happen?

1506
01:13:49,200 --> 01:13:52,639
Speaker 1: We don't And that's the other thing, And I don't

1507
01:13:52,680 --> 01:13:56,240
Speaker 1: trying to idiots. It's the other thing about the whole

1508
01:13:56,560 --> 01:13:57,960
Speaker 1: you know, how was the offense? I don't mean to

1509
01:13:58,000 --> 01:13:59,679
Speaker 1: pick on Fred now that he's not here to argue

1510
01:13:59,680 --> 01:14:03,120
Speaker 1: with me. But you did face the thirty second ranked

1511
01:14:03,160 --> 01:14:06,719
Speaker 1: defense back to back weeks, thirty first, thirty second, whatever,

1512
01:14:06,920 --> 01:14:09,439
Speaker 1: you know, whatever category you want to go in Arizona,

1513
01:14:09,640 --> 01:14:12,840
Speaker 1: and it didn't look any better. You good, one touchdown again,

1514
01:14:13,000 --> 01:14:17,519
Speaker 1: like it's sorry, Like who you play counts? You know,

1515
01:14:17,720 --> 01:14:20,599
Speaker 1: like you face the worst red zone defense in football?

1516
01:14:21,800 --> 01:14:24,120
Speaker 1: Do you know the Raiders. I don't know if you

1517
01:14:24,240 --> 01:14:27,760
Speaker 1: noticed this, ev it was a TV thing. That's the

1518
01:14:27,840 --> 01:14:29,840
Speaker 1: first time that they did not allow a touchdown this

1519
01:14:30,000 --> 01:14:32,720
Speaker 1: year when faced with a goal to ghost situation. I

1520
01:14:33,160 --> 01:14:35,680
Speaker 1: saw a tweet of it. Never, not once did they

1521
01:14:35,720 --> 01:14:39,240
Speaker 1: not allow a touchdown. Never, not once, And they did

1522
01:14:39,280 --> 01:14:42,040
Speaker 1: allow two touchdowns actually, but the Patriots just wipe the

1523
01:14:42,120 --> 01:14:44,840
Speaker 1: mat on their own right. You're welcome, Raiders. Let's go

1524
01:14:44,920 --> 01:14:46,840
Speaker 1: back to the phone, Steve and Vermont. Hey, Steve, how

1525
01:14:46,840 --> 01:14:50,080
Speaker 1: are you doing. I'm good? How are you good? Good?

1526
01:14:50,120 --> 01:14:54,439
Speaker 1: Thanks for calling in. Thanks a long time listener, first

1527
01:14:54,439 --> 01:14:57,519
Speaker 1: time caller. I wanted to say, you guys do an

1528
01:14:57,520 --> 01:15:01,640
Speaker 1: awesome job. I appreciate listening to you every week. I

1529
01:15:01,720 --> 01:15:03,439
Speaker 1: felt like I had to call in today because we

1530
01:15:03,600 --> 01:15:08,200
Speaker 1: are at the absolute worth I've seen in the history

1531
01:15:08,240 --> 01:15:11,200
Speaker 1: of being a fan. I'm watching every game since ninety two,

1532
01:15:11,479 --> 01:15:15,280
Speaker 1: every game of the Blitzow and Brady era, and where

1533
01:15:15,320 --> 01:15:17,760
Speaker 1: our coaching staff has gotten to at this point, it's

1534
01:15:17,800 --> 01:15:22,560
Speaker 1: just terrible. It's you know, we've had worse results, but

1535
01:15:22,640 --> 01:15:25,920
Speaker 1: this is the worst coaching performance I've seen from this

1536
01:15:26,040 --> 01:15:29,240
Speaker 1: team in all my years as a fan, especially on

1537
01:15:29,280 --> 01:15:34,000
Speaker 1: the offensive side. They just can't do anything right. I

1538
01:15:34,120 --> 01:15:39,599
Speaker 1: did have a question for Evan. Evan on catch twenty two.

1539
01:15:39,600 --> 01:15:43,240
Speaker 1: You guys are talking about a offensive formations they used

1540
01:15:43,280 --> 01:15:48,360
Speaker 1: where they had Pierre Strong, Jack Jones, Taykwon Thornton, and

1541
01:15:49,920 --> 01:15:52,840
Speaker 1: Nelson Aguilar with John U. Smith on the field to

1542
01:15:52,880 --> 01:15:56,040
Speaker 1: get the most speed that they could. I might be mistaken,

1543
01:15:56,120 --> 01:15:59,280
Speaker 1: but I think they started the game this week with

1544
01:15:59,479 --> 01:16:02,439
Speaker 1: that poor I wanted to ask if you'd seen anything

1545
01:16:03,400 --> 01:16:06,000
Speaker 1: knew that they had involved in that formation, and if

1546
01:16:08,120 --> 01:16:11,720
Speaker 1: you thought there was any positive plays that came from

1547
01:16:11,760 --> 01:16:14,439
Speaker 1: that formation. Yeah, thanks for the calls to I think

1548
01:16:14,479 --> 01:16:16,519
Speaker 1: you met Marcus Jones. There a lot of Joneses. I

1549
01:16:16,600 --> 01:16:21,600
Speaker 1: totally understand the confusion, but they did not run that

1550
01:16:21,720 --> 01:16:24,880
Speaker 1: formation or that grouping nearly as much as they had

1551
01:16:25,240 --> 01:16:29,040
Speaker 1: against Arizona, and this was my biggest fear with Jacoby

1552
01:16:29,280 --> 01:16:32,800
Speaker 1: and potentially DeVante Parker coming back. I know everybody was

1553
01:16:32,840 --> 01:16:35,720
Speaker 1: all up in arms about all the screens against Arizona,

1554
01:16:35,800 --> 01:16:37,960
Speaker 1: and I actually wrote and after further review, that I

1555
01:16:38,000 --> 01:16:41,439
Speaker 1: didn't really mind it because I liked where they were

1556
01:16:41,479 --> 01:16:43,280
Speaker 1: headed with it right. I thought that they could build

1557
01:16:43,320 --> 01:16:46,160
Speaker 1: some stuff off of it and make it a little

1558
01:16:46,200 --> 01:16:49,360
Speaker 1: bit more creative and more explosive as they went. And

1559
01:16:50,160 --> 01:16:52,439
Speaker 1: my big problem that I had with this game plan

1560
01:16:52,840 --> 01:16:54,560
Speaker 1: this week is that they didn't do any of it

1561
01:16:54,880 --> 01:16:57,360
Speaker 1: right like. And this is I think sometimes that I

1562
01:16:58,080 --> 01:17:00,800
Speaker 1: think that they get And I wrote this at the time,

1563
01:17:01,160 --> 01:17:03,840
Speaker 1: and I said, don't get caught up in the game

1564
01:17:03,880 --> 01:17:07,200
Speaker 1: plan stuff. Right You're not good enough right now to

1565
01:17:07,439 --> 01:17:10,559
Speaker 1: change week to week based off of opponent and game

1566
01:17:10,680 --> 01:17:13,200
Speaker 1: plan like you used to do with Brady. You're not

1567
01:17:13,320 --> 01:17:17,200
Speaker 1: a conversation Mike and I had independent Paul saying similar

1568
01:17:17,240 --> 01:17:20,880
Speaker 1: things to You're not good enough to morph week to

1569
01:17:21,000 --> 01:17:24,559
Speaker 1: week into the best offense defensively. Sure, if you want

1570
01:17:24,560 --> 01:17:26,760
Speaker 1: to run more man than zone one week zone, then

1571
01:17:26,840 --> 01:17:30,200
Speaker 1: man blitz less more or whatever, Yeah, totally go go

1572
01:17:30,320 --> 01:17:33,720
Speaker 1: crazy with the game plan. But for this offense right now,

1573
01:17:34,360 --> 01:17:37,240
Speaker 1: they need to find like a core set of plays

1574
01:17:37,560 --> 01:17:40,680
Speaker 1: that they can execute consistently that puts guys in a

1575
01:17:40,800 --> 01:17:44,640
Speaker 1: position to succeed, that gets some of their playmakers some opportunities,

1576
01:17:44,960 --> 01:17:47,000
Speaker 1: and just stick with it. And I thought this week,

1577
01:17:47,120 --> 01:17:49,360
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, now they're they're trying to run

1578
01:17:49,400 --> 01:17:52,680
Speaker 1: downfield concepts again. Whereas last week everything was short. Now

1579
01:17:52,720 --> 01:17:54,800
Speaker 1: everything's down the field. Now next week it's going to

1580
01:17:54,840 --> 01:17:57,519
Speaker 1: be short again. It's like this is all over the place.

1581
01:17:58,040 --> 01:18:01,880
Speaker 1: And if they had played the same offense that they

1582
01:18:01,960 --> 01:18:05,080
Speaker 1: did against Arizona, then I don't think you go thirteen

1583
01:18:05,160 --> 01:18:07,320
Speaker 1: for twenty thirty one because you're throwing the ball five yards,

1584
01:18:07,360 --> 01:18:08,960
Speaker 1: so you're going to complete more of the passage. Well,

1585
01:18:09,000 --> 01:18:11,000
Speaker 1: that to me was what was striking about the thirteen

1586
01:18:11,040 --> 01:18:13,920
Speaker 1: for thirty one is like their offense isn't you know,

1587
01:18:15,240 --> 01:18:17,320
Speaker 1: they should build a complete passage, right, I mean they

1588
01:18:17,360 --> 01:18:19,960
Speaker 1: don't throw a ton of you know that they threw

1589
01:18:20,080 --> 01:18:22,720
Speaker 1: a handful in this game for sure, And Nevin talked

1590
01:18:22,720 --> 01:18:25,679
Speaker 1: about some of the misses, um, but yeah, you shouldn't.

1591
01:18:26,240 --> 01:18:28,679
Speaker 1: You shouldn't expect to have that with with the amount

1592
01:18:28,680 --> 01:18:31,080
Speaker 1: of short stuff that they throw, especially like on long

1593
01:18:31,160 --> 01:18:33,439
Speaker 1: yardage place like that you were complaining about earlier. You know,

1594
01:18:33,680 --> 01:18:36,000
Speaker 1: it's third and fourteen. If you don't complete that pass,

1595
01:18:36,920 --> 01:18:38,439
Speaker 1: you know, when you're throwing it underneath, I mean, if

1596
01:18:38,439 --> 01:18:40,599
Speaker 1: you're throwing it beyond the sticks. Yeah, okay, yeah, that's

1597
01:18:41,520 --> 01:18:45,200
Speaker 1: that's a hard completion, no you Yeah, they and I

1598
01:18:45,280 --> 01:18:47,559
Speaker 1: just looked and Marcus Jones he had eight snaps against

1599
01:18:47,600 --> 01:18:50,519
Speaker 1: Arizona on offense and only two in this game. Yeah,

1600
01:18:50,560 --> 01:18:52,040
Speaker 1: and one of them was in the red zone where

1601
01:18:52,040 --> 01:18:54,000
Speaker 1: they had them minute running back essentially. One of them

1602
01:18:54,080 --> 01:18:57,080
Speaker 1: was in the the goal to go to know, there's

1603
01:18:57,080 --> 01:18:59,280
Speaker 1: only time they were in the red zone. So but yeah,

1604
01:18:59,400 --> 01:19:03,960
Speaker 1: they I noticed that they played Marcus less and I

1605
01:19:04,080 --> 01:19:06,000
Speaker 1: think that that's a big reason why is because he

1606
01:19:06,040 --> 01:19:07,559
Speaker 1: had to play so much on d He played every

1607
01:19:07,600 --> 01:19:10,640
Speaker 1: play on defense and I you know, to go to

1608
01:19:10,720 --> 01:19:15,639
Speaker 1: the last defensive drive as well. Eventually, you know, Marcus Jones,

1609
01:19:15,760 --> 01:19:19,240
Speaker 1: Miles Bryant, Jonathan Like, it's a very small group of corners, right,

1610
01:19:19,479 --> 01:19:22,360
Speaker 1: very small, And so how do they lose? They lost

1611
01:19:22,360 --> 01:19:23,960
Speaker 1: at the catch point, right, Like they lost on the

1612
01:19:24,000 --> 01:19:26,120
Speaker 1: play that was sort of like a fifty fifty ball

1613
01:19:26,160 --> 01:19:28,000
Speaker 1: in the back of the end zone. But yeah, I

1614
01:19:29,280 --> 01:19:30,920
Speaker 1: in my head when he said that they ran that

1615
01:19:31,120 --> 01:19:32,599
Speaker 1: a lot of was like, I think Marcus the only

1616
01:19:32,640 --> 01:19:36,280
Speaker 1: played two offensive snaps, so they didn't really and uh,

1617
01:19:37,080 --> 01:19:40,240
Speaker 1: it just it just goes back to this week. There

1618
01:19:40,680 --> 01:19:44,160
Speaker 1: ten yards per attempt, air yards per attempt, average depth

1619
01:19:44,160 --> 01:19:46,479
Speaker 1: of the targets ten yards. Last week it was like

1620
01:19:46,640 --> 01:19:49,439
Speaker 1: a little bit under five. Do you get like sort

1621
01:19:49,479 --> 01:19:53,680
Speaker 1: of do you get the impression that they pay too

1622
01:19:53,800 --> 01:19:58,280
Speaker 1: much attention to the midweek narratives? Like there was a

1623
01:19:58,400 --> 01:20:01,439
Speaker 1: huge hue and cry about that it was like four

1624
01:20:01,520 --> 01:20:04,400
Speaker 1: yards right, It was like four yards right. They threw

1625
01:20:04,479 --> 01:20:07,439
Speaker 1: all screens and everybody was like, what are you doing? Man, Yeah,

1626
01:20:08,360 --> 01:20:11,920
Speaker 1: let's show them. I'm gonna do it this way next week.

1627
01:20:12,160 --> 01:20:14,479
Speaker 1: I think what they saw with this Raiders secondary, the

1628
01:20:14,600 --> 01:20:17,920
Speaker 1: Raiders secondary and the Raiders defense came in thirty second

1629
01:20:17,960 --> 01:20:20,080
Speaker 1: in the league in DV away against the Past, and

1630
01:20:20,240 --> 01:20:21,920
Speaker 1: I think that they thought that they were gonna be

1631
01:20:21,920 --> 01:20:24,760
Speaker 1: able to throw on them. That's what I And now

1632
01:20:24,840 --> 01:20:27,000
Speaker 1: one drive that they put together that led up to

1633
01:20:27,040 --> 01:20:29,479
Speaker 1: the goal line sequence, they did make some throws down

1634
01:20:29,520 --> 01:20:32,000
Speaker 1: the field on them, and they just they kept on

1635
01:20:32,160 --> 01:20:34,120
Speaker 1: trying to do it and all the screen stuff that

1636
01:20:34,120 --> 01:20:37,080
Speaker 1: everybody was complaining about the week before completely went by

1637
01:20:37,120 --> 01:20:40,880
Speaker 1: the west the wayside, And I understand why people get

1638
01:20:40,920 --> 01:20:43,360
Speaker 1: annoyed by the screens on like third and ten, right

1639
01:20:43,400 --> 01:20:46,600
Speaker 1: when you're that you're waving the white flag. But this

1640
01:20:46,840 --> 01:20:50,840
Speaker 1: team cannot execute on first and second down consistently enough.

1641
01:20:51,520 --> 01:20:54,080
Speaker 1: But they can they can execute screens like they can

1642
01:20:54,200 --> 01:20:56,439
Speaker 1: they run some good screens. I don't think they're great

1643
01:20:56,479 --> 01:20:58,240
Speaker 1: at it. I gotta be honest with you, Like, even

1644
01:20:58,280 --> 01:21:01,280
Speaker 1: in this game, there was the play I keep talking about,

1645
01:21:01,280 --> 01:21:03,479
Speaker 1: the one stupid play because I'm an idiot, and I

1646
01:21:03,560 --> 01:21:05,880
Speaker 1: get excited by the one play that looks like NFL offense.

1647
01:21:06,360 --> 01:21:09,920
Speaker 1: The two plays that preceded the incut to Taekwon Thoroten.

1648
01:21:10,400 --> 01:21:12,720
Speaker 1: We're both like, I'm gonna have to go back and

1649
01:21:12,800 --> 01:21:16,840
Speaker 1: look to see if they're actually screens or just check checkdowns,

1650
01:21:17,600 --> 01:21:19,560
Speaker 1: and they get blown up like that's why it was

1651
01:21:19,600 --> 01:21:23,200
Speaker 1: third and eleven because they completed two passes there for nothing. Yeah,

1652
01:21:23,560 --> 01:21:26,080
Speaker 1: you know, And well, I think the biggest thing to it.

1653
01:21:27,040 --> 01:21:28,680
Speaker 1: Most of the time, when you when you try to

1654
01:21:28,760 --> 01:21:31,400
Speaker 1: screen teams, it seems that blitz and it seems that

1655
01:21:31,479 --> 01:21:34,400
Speaker 1: play zone, right because when you're playing zone, you fall

1656
01:21:34,479 --> 01:21:36,040
Speaker 1: out of it, and then you're all of a sudden,

1657
01:21:36,120 --> 01:21:38,400
Speaker 1: you're you guys are dropping to depth and you're you're

1658
01:21:38,439 --> 01:21:40,080
Speaker 1: coming off the line of scrimmage and then and then

1659
01:21:40,200 --> 01:21:41,640
Speaker 1: you can set up the blocks and stuff like that.

1660
01:21:42,080 --> 01:21:44,559
Speaker 1: The Raiders played a lot of Man on Monday or Sunday,

1661
01:21:44,600 --> 01:21:46,760
Speaker 1: excuse me, So my guess is that they said the

1662
01:21:46,880 --> 01:21:49,839
Speaker 1: screens aren't going to work against man because somebody's assigned

1663
01:21:49,880 --> 01:21:52,960
Speaker 1: to the running back right right through. But I think

1664
01:21:53,000 --> 01:21:56,200
Speaker 1: that it's, you know, all the mystery. They had those

1665
01:21:56,240 --> 01:21:59,840
Speaker 1: eight snaps of Marcus Jones against Arizona or they're motioning him,

1666
01:22:00,000 --> 01:22:03,439
Speaker 1: they're running misdirection plays and they're running screens to him,

1667
01:22:03,560 --> 01:22:05,720
Speaker 1: and they're building off the screen to him, and like

1668
01:22:06,040 --> 01:22:09,160
Speaker 1: that was complimentary offense, right, Like so we're gonna show

1669
01:22:09,200 --> 01:22:11,760
Speaker 1: you the screen, he's gonna take it for twelve yards,

1670
01:22:11,800 --> 01:22:13,800
Speaker 1: and the next play he's gonna motion like it's the screen,

1671
01:22:13,800 --> 01:22:15,960
Speaker 1: but we're actually gonna hit you over here. Like that's

1672
01:22:16,080 --> 01:22:19,519
Speaker 1: that's how you sequenced together plays. And this this offense

1673
01:22:19,600 --> 01:22:22,160
Speaker 1: that they ran on Sunday was just disjointed in the matter.

1674
01:22:22,360 --> 01:22:24,600
Speaker 1: And that sequence was it's first and ten from the

1675
01:22:24,680 --> 01:22:28,120
Speaker 1: twenty four past short left to Pierre Strong minus two.

1676
01:22:28,240 --> 01:22:31,360
Speaker 1: Now I think it was a screen. It may not.

1677
01:22:31,600 --> 01:22:33,200
Speaker 1: It may have been a check There was one where

1678
01:22:33,520 --> 01:22:35,840
Speaker 1: they ran slam flat and I think it's this one

1679
01:22:36,560 --> 01:22:42,000
Speaker 1: where Mac through that was minus two, and then the

1680
01:22:42,080 --> 01:22:45,519
Speaker 1: next play is passionate left to Stevenson for one. Again,

1681
01:22:45,640 --> 01:22:47,880
Speaker 1: I can't tell you whether that one was a screen.

1682
01:22:47,920 --> 01:22:49,320
Speaker 1: I can't tell you where the first one was a

1683
01:22:49,400 --> 01:22:51,320
Speaker 1: hand on the bible that there was screens. They may

1684
01:22:51,360 --> 01:22:54,519
Speaker 1: have just been checkdowns or swing whatever. But my point

1685
01:22:54,640 --> 01:22:57,120
Speaker 1: is the passes at well behind the line of scrimmage.

1686
01:22:57,120 --> 01:22:58,880
Speaker 1: I don't think they've had a tremendous amount of success,

1687
01:22:58,880 --> 01:23:03,360
Speaker 1: which certainly not if you take away that Marcus Jones touchdown. Okay,

1688
01:23:03,360 --> 01:23:06,240
Speaker 1: but so this game, right and I know we're getting

1689
01:23:06,240 --> 01:23:08,040
Speaker 1: on a tangent about the screens right now. Yeah, yeah,

1690
01:23:08,200 --> 01:23:11,040
Speaker 1: that's not not really the point. This game they ran

1691
01:23:11,120 --> 01:23:13,400
Speaker 1: for two hundred yards, right, which I I you know,

1692
01:23:13,800 --> 01:23:15,240
Speaker 1: this was their best running game of the year in

1693
01:23:15,360 --> 01:23:18,320
Speaker 1: terms of production. But for the most part, they don't

1694
01:23:18,360 --> 01:23:20,439
Speaker 1: run the football. They have not been running the football

1695
01:23:20,520 --> 01:23:23,320
Speaker 1: very well, and against Arizona they averaged four and a

1696
01:23:23,360 --> 01:23:27,400
Speaker 1: half yards per screet, so it wasn't great production. It

1697
01:23:27,439 --> 01:23:29,559
Speaker 1: wasn't like they averaged ten but four and a half.

1698
01:23:29,600 --> 01:23:34,040
Speaker 1: It's replacing your running game, is you're right, and without Stevenson? Yeah,

1699
01:23:34,120 --> 01:23:36,880
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean you could sell me on that.

1700
01:23:37,400 --> 01:23:39,479
Speaker 1: You could sell me on that. So yeah, I'm not

1701
01:23:39,560 --> 01:23:43,760
Speaker 1: completely let's jump over the phone's speed fresnop has gone

1702
01:23:44,840 --> 01:23:52,559
Speaker 1: Hey bad. I'm very bothered, but still yeah, I think

1703
01:23:52,600 --> 01:23:54,360
Speaker 1: the thing that I'm bothered most by, I'm sorry I

1704
01:23:54,400 --> 01:23:56,120
Speaker 1: missed the beginning of the shows that you'd already talked

1705
01:23:56,120 --> 01:23:58,679
Speaker 1: about it, but the fact that it was Jakobe Myers

1706
01:23:58,920 --> 01:24:02,000
Speaker 1: that got caught up with the dumb play. It's frustrating

1707
01:24:02,040 --> 01:24:04,439
Speaker 1: because I know his dad listens to show I just

1708
01:24:04,600 --> 01:24:08,400
Speaker 1: like he deserves him support. He's been, um, pretty rock

1709
01:24:08,439 --> 01:24:12,320
Speaker 1: solid player. He's like he consistently plays at his ceiling,

1710
01:24:12,840 --> 01:24:15,080
Speaker 1: which is gonna get you down the field, but not

1711
01:24:15,240 --> 01:24:17,800
Speaker 1: into the end zone. So it's like frustrating when he lost,

1712
01:24:18,720 --> 01:24:21,200
Speaker 1: you know, the chance to have that touchdown. That was

1713
01:24:21,240 --> 01:24:24,519
Speaker 1: like the most Jacobe Myers thing. When he loses an

1714
01:24:24,560 --> 01:24:27,080
Speaker 1: opportunity to touchdown would have been easy if it was Nelson.

1715
01:24:29,280 --> 01:24:31,920
Speaker 1: It's the least Jacobe Myers thing when he throws that,

1716
01:24:32,439 --> 01:24:35,080
Speaker 1: you know, gumass pass. So I just I don't know.

1717
01:24:35,080 --> 01:24:37,879
Speaker 1: I just wanted to send good bods at the Myers

1718
01:24:38,080 --> 01:24:40,880
Speaker 1: is because he's he's been great and I really I

1719
01:24:40,960 --> 01:24:42,960
Speaker 1: really liked him, and I don't know the sad that

1720
01:24:43,080 --> 01:24:45,080
Speaker 1: he that that he is going to be remembered for

1721
01:24:45,160 --> 01:24:47,920
Speaker 1: something like that. Yeah, fuck I hear, especially if he

1722
01:24:48,000 --> 01:24:50,920
Speaker 1: leaves in free thanks to be appreciate it. Yeah, that's

1723
01:24:50,960 --> 01:24:53,799
Speaker 1: why people got rid of them. Yeah, can't make that mistake.

1724
01:24:54,240 --> 01:24:55,840
Speaker 1: It does suck though, I mean, and like I said,

1725
01:24:55,880 --> 01:24:57,960
Speaker 1: I mean, unfortunately if it was Nelson Agiler, everyone that

1726
01:24:58,080 --> 01:25:00,320
Speaker 1: just like and it just sucks because everybody he has

1727
01:25:00,320 --> 01:25:02,200
Speaker 1: such good will to Joe Jacoby Myers, one of the

1728
01:25:02,240 --> 01:25:05,040
Speaker 1: few players who's improved and done everything you've asked of

1729
01:25:05,160 --> 01:25:07,200
Speaker 1: him and come through with big catches when you don't

1730
01:25:07,200 --> 01:25:08,400
Speaker 1: have a lot of guys can do it. Because like,

1731
01:25:08,439 --> 01:25:13,400
Speaker 1: I'm so far removed from that, Like I would definitely

1732
01:25:13,680 --> 01:25:15,760
Speaker 1: like if I was like not working here and I

1733
01:25:15,880 --> 01:25:18,240
Speaker 1: was like twenty year old Paul like season ticket holder

1734
01:25:18,320 --> 01:25:20,000
Speaker 1: like I was, I would totally look at it that

1735
01:25:20,080 --> 01:25:22,280
Speaker 1: way and say, I wish it was like Aglo the

1736
01:25:22,360 --> 01:25:24,400
Speaker 1: one guys that I don't really love, you know, I

1737
01:25:24,520 --> 01:25:26,400
Speaker 1: really like Myers and it hates what I but like

1738
01:25:26,800 --> 01:25:29,800
Speaker 1: now I'm just like kid like my team did something

1739
01:25:29,880 --> 01:25:31,320
Speaker 1: stupid with the game in the lot. I don't care

1740
01:25:31,400 --> 01:25:33,760
Speaker 1: who did it. Yeah, you know, but I don't know.

1741
01:25:33,840 --> 01:25:36,920
Speaker 1: I just it's definitely a valid thing. You'd rather have

1742
01:25:37,000 --> 01:25:38,920
Speaker 1: it be a guy that you didn't love, Yeah, but

1743
01:25:39,040 --> 01:25:41,880
Speaker 1: it's I mean, in some ways it's just appropriate because

1744
01:25:42,040 --> 01:25:43,920
Speaker 1: as much as you love the guy, the team has

1745
01:25:43,960 --> 01:25:45,600
Speaker 1: just not been good this year, and he's part of

1746
01:25:45,680 --> 01:25:47,519
Speaker 1: that team, And as much as you don't want him

1747
01:25:47,560 --> 01:25:49,160
Speaker 1: to be and you want him to, you know, earn

1748
01:25:49,160 --> 01:25:52,080
Speaker 1: another contract here and do well, It's it's not that easy.

1749
01:25:52,160 --> 01:25:55,400
Speaker 1: I think it's appropriate because they even broke Jacoby, like

1750
01:25:55,560 --> 01:25:58,479
Speaker 1: he's probably the smartest guy on the offense, honestly, and

1751
01:25:58,640 --> 01:26:02,799
Speaker 1: this has been such a an absolute object disaster on offense,

1752
01:26:03,040 --> 01:26:05,880
Speaker 1: and we finally have gotten to the point where Ramandre

1753
01:26:05,960 --> 01:26:08,160
Speaker 1: and Jacoby, the two guys that we thought were safe,

1754
01:26:08,560 --> 01:26:11,640
Speaker 1: are finally broken as well. A good job. Let's go

1755
01:26:11,720 --> 01:26:15,320
Speaker 1: out to Patty and Agawam, Hey Patty, how are you doing? Hey? Guys?

1756
01:26:15,640 --> 01:26:17,519
Speaker 1: Let me take out well, I actually no, I'll keep

1757
01:26:17,560 --> 01:26:21,160
Speaker 1: you on speaker. I'll probably hear me better. So I

1758
01:26:21,320 --> 01:26:23,160
Speaker 1: was going to go on a little bit of a ramp. Butudge,

1759
01:26:23,200 --> 01:26:26,960
Speaker 1: while I was unfold, I thought of a hypothetical question.

1760
01:26:28,280 --> 01:26:31,840
Speaker 1: So I'll just throw that out at you. Let's just say,

1761
01:26:32,200 --> 01:26:37,080
Speaker 1: prior to the season starting, they went outside, you know,

1762
01:26:37,240 --> 01:26:41,040
Speaker 1: outside of Bill's friends of Belichick and hired an offensive

1763
01:26:41,120 --> 01:26:44,160
Speaker 1: coordinator and we still had the same results. Do you

1764
01:26:44,240 --> 01:26:46,280
Speaker 1: think that guy would still be working right now or

1765
01:26:46,360 --> 01:26:48,400
Speaker 1: do you think Bill would have gotten rid of him

1766
01:26:48,479 --> 01:26:53,320
Speaker 1: like weeks ago? Right now? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, I think

1767
01:26:53,360 --> 01:26:55,840
Speaker 1: he'd still be employed now. I don't know if he

1768
01:26:55,880 --> 01:26:59,640
Speaker 1: would be employed next year, but I don't think he

1769
01:26:59,640 --> 01:27:01,680
Speaker 1: would have fired. I don't think that's Bill style to

1770
01:27:01,840 --> 01:27:05,439
Speaker 1: like Samod hasn't been fired. I don't think guys are

1771
01:27:05,439 --> 01:27:09,040
Speaker 1: getting fired. That's your guy point. I mean, I think

1772
01:27:09,040 --> 01:27:11,320
Speaker 1: the special teams have been really bad for two years. Yeah, no,

1773
01:27:11,520 --> 01:27:13,919
Speaker 1: I don't. I mean with a game or two exception

1774
01:27:14,040 --> 01:27:16,040
Speaker 1: here or there, like the Jets game. You know they

1775
01:27:16,120 --> 01:27:18,360
Speaker 1: won a game on a punt return, you know, Marcus

1776
01:27:18,439 --> 01:27:20,920
Speaker 1: Jones won a game. Yeah, that's how I would look

1777
01:27:20,960 --> 01:27:22,760
Speaker 1: at it. I tend to be a little negative that

1778
01:27:22,960 --> 01:27:24,720
Speaker 1: I would look at it as Marcus Jos blocking was

1779
01:27:24,760 --> 01:27:27,559
Speaker 1: good too. I made a playfair Yeah, and Nick Folk

1780
01:27:27,600 --> 01:27:30,400
Speaker 1: has been really consistent seen which I don't really count

1781
01:27:30,400 --> 01:27:33,320
Speaker 1: as special teams. As you also knew. They made a

1782
01:27:33,360 --> 01:27:36,679
Speaker 1: few mistakes here and there defensively and got called for penalties.

1783
01:27:36,720 --> 01:27:39,320
Speaker 1: But for the life of me and the Belichick era,

1784
01:27:39,439 --> 01:27:42,320
Speaker 1: I don't think I've ever seen a team so undisciplined

1785
01:27:42,479 --> 01:27:45,280
Speaker 1: and doesn't it seems like they're not ready when they

1786
01:27:45,320 --> 01:27:49,639
Speaker 1: come out. Um, even I mean even after the first

1787
01:27:49,720 --> 01:27:51,479
Speaker 1: few weeks, when it seems like they would come out

1788
01:27:51,520 --> 01:27:54,040
Speaker 1: the first drive of the game and the drive after

1789
01:27:54,160 --> 01:27:56,640
Speaker 1: halftime and be able to put something together. I mean,

1790
01:27:56,680 --> 01:28:05,800
Speaker 1: they're not even doing that now. No, yeah, it's worse. Yeah, yeah, yeah, baby,

1791
01:28:07,160 --> 01:28:10,559
Speaker 1: thanks Patty. I do think we should like defensively, they

1792
01:28:10,680 --> 01:28:14,360
Speaker 1: they're a well coached defense. Yeah, they're well coached defense.

1793
01:28:14,680 --> 01:28:17,080
Speaker 1: They some of the stuff that they run, like some

1794
01:28:17,200 --> 01:28:19,960
Speaker 1: of the simulated pressures and the different zone drops and

1795
01:28:19,960 --> 01:28:22,400
Speaker 1: stuff that they do, Like, you can't do that unless

1796
01:28:22,400 --> 01:28:24,080
Speaker 1: you know what you're doing. You know, do you do

1797
01:28:24,160 --> 01:28:25,920
Speaker 1: you have an issue with how much they're dropping shoot

1798
01:28:25,960 --> 01:28:28,519
Speaker 1: on do you think that that is worth um, you know,

1799
01:28:28,960 --> 01:28:31,000
Speaker 1: forcing him to get attention and then dropping him out

1800
01:28:31,040 --> 01:28:32,880
Speaker 1: and kind of saying, ha ha, we got you. But

1801
01:28:33,200 --> 01:28:34,760
Speaker 1: is it is it really worth it? I mean, don't

1802
01:28:34,760 --> 01:28:36,559
Speaker 1: you do you need him? I mean, he's he's obviously

1803
01:28:36,720 --> 01:28:38,519
Speaker 1: not putting up the same production the last few games

1804
01:28:38,560 --> 01:28:39,800
Speaker 1: that he did early in the season. Is it is

1805
01:28:39,800 --> 01:28:41,599
Speaker 1: it worth it to drop him out for those scheme

1806
01:28:41,640 --> 01:28:44,400
Speaker 1: add it kind of twists. I like the decoy, I do.

1807
01:28:44,800 --> 01:28:47,120
Speaker 1: I like the decoy. It's like, you know, if you

1808
01:28:47,200 --> 01:28:49,320
Speaker 1: had Randy Moss and they're doubling him, then you use

1809
01:28:49,439 --> 01:28:51,439
Speaker 1: them as a decoy and you you know, hit them

1810
01:28:51,520 --> 01:28:53,960
Speaker 1: someplace else, right, Like, it's the same thing, just the

1811
01:28:54,080 --> 01:28:56,600
Speaker 1: defensive equivalent. I like the decoy, but I think the

1812
01:28:57,200 --> 01:29:00,360
Speaker 1: the issue that it presents is that past ushing his

1813
01:29:00,439 --> 01:29:03,360
Speaker 1: rhythmic right. It's like you gotta get on they call

1814
01:29:03,479 --> 01:29:07,599
Speaker 1: him like sequences or um, you know, different scripts. Set

1815
01:29:07,680 --> 01:29:10,479
Speaker 1: him up right where you're set him up for the

1816
01:29:10,520 --> 01:29:13,320
Speaker 1: bull rush for cha, Well, you actually start with the

1817
01:29:13,360 --> 01:29:18,360
Speaker 1: bull chas foundational move is the long arm right bullrush.

1818
01:29:18,439 --> 01:29:21,360
Speaker 1: Long arm. So he's speed to power, long arm, pushed

1819
01:29:21,400 --> 01:29:24,120
Speaker 1: the tackle. So he does that, does it again, He

1820
01:29:24,240 --> 01:29:27,080
Speaker 1: does it again, He does it again, and then the

1821
01:29:27,240 --> 01:29:31,160
Speaker 1: fourth time turns the corner right's straight speed rush or

1822
01:29:31,200 --> 01:29:33,479
Speaker 1: ghost move right where he shows it and then lets

1823
01:29:33,520 --> 01:29:36,720
Speaker 1: it go. Those are things that go over that's the

1824
01:29:36,840 --> 01:29:39,120
Speaker 1: chess match over the course of the game. So the

1825
01:29:39,200 --> 01:29:41,479
Speaker 1: problem that you have with dropping Jude on and they

1826
01:29:41,560 --> 01:29:44,559
Speaker 1: dropped him nine times in this game, mostly on third down.

1827
01:29:45,000 --> 01:29:46,760
Speaker 1: The problem that you have is that when you get

1828
01:29:46,800 --> 01:29:49,960
Speaker 1: into that final drive and you need a rush, like

1829
01:29:50,080 --> 01:29:52,559
Speaker 1: you just need somebody to make a play up front,

1830
01:29:53,439 --> 01:29:57,200
Speaker 1: he's out of it right and so now there's no setup,

1831
01:29:57,240 --> 01:29:59,599
Speaker 1: there's nothing else for him to go to. So that's

1832
01:29:59,640 --> 01:30:03,040
Speaker 1: where it becomes a problem is when you absolutely need

1833
01:30:03,120 --> 01:30:06,599
Speaker 1: to play late in the game and your best player

1834
01:30:06,680 --> 01:30:10,200
Speaker 1: on defense can't come up with it. I think it

1835
01:30:10,320 --> 01:30:13,120
Speaker 1: goes back to the fact that he's really been in

1836
01:30:13,240 --> 01:30:15,479
Speaker 1: and out of the rush the entire game. Yeah, how

1837
01:30:15,520 --> 01:30:20,799
Speaker 1: about like on that last drive, I read your favorite scribe,

1838
01:30:21,080 --> 01:30:26,040
Speaker 1: Greg Bdard, breaking down talking about chipping the tight ends,

1839
01:30:26,080 --> 01:30:28,400
Speaker 1: which they had done, you know throughout the game. Do

1840
01:30:28,520 --> 01:30:31,240
Speaker 1: you need to do that in that last drive or

1841
01:30:31,439 --> 01:30:34,840
Speaker 1: as Greg sort of opined, do you kind of invite that,

1842
01:30:35,080 --> 01:30:37,639
Speaker 1: like if they want to throw something, you know, maybe

1843
01:30:37,680 --> 01:30:39,360
Speaker 1: across the middle, it's going to take a lot of

1844
01:30:39,400 --> 01:30:43,120
Speaker 1: time off the clock. Isn't that what you're hoping, you know,

1845
01:30:43,200 --> 01:30:45,000
Speaker 1: provided you don't get up like a thirty yard on

1846
01:30:45,040 --> 01:30:50,519
Speaker 1: the scene, which they did. Yeah, I mean, I don't know.

1847
01:30:50,560 --> 01:30:52,040
Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of different ways to look

1848
01:30:52,080 --> 01:30:53,360
Speaker 1: at it. And I never really thought of it the

1849
01:30:53,400 --> 01:30:57,320
Speaker 1: way that Evan just talked about. It's hard to ask

1850
01:30:57,439 --> 01:31:01,080
Speaker 1: Matt Judon to do one thing and then and say, Okay,

1851
01:31:01,120 --> 01:31:02,800
Speaker 1: now it's time to close the game out, get after

1852
01:31:02,840 --> 01:31:04,519
Speaker 1: the passion when he hasn't really had a chance to

1853
01:31:04,760 --> 01:31:08,080
Speaker 1: sort of wear down the guy blocking him all game.

1854
01:31:08,120 --> 01:31:10,200
Speaker 1: And I wonder how you know just how Judon feels,

1855
01:31:10,200 --> 01:31:12,599
Speaker 1: because I mean, there certainly is the aspect here if

1856
01:31:12,600 --> 01:31:13,960
Speaker 1: you got to take one for the team. But at

1857
01:31:14,000 --> 01:31:16,519
Speaker 1: the same time, the average fan is going to look

1858
01:31:16,560 --> 01:31:19,760
Speaker 1: at the stats and say, half he did it again,

1859
01:31:19,920 --> 01:31:22,479
Speaker 1: doing it again, and you know, and it's not entirely fair.

1860
01:31:23,040 --> 01:31:24,840
Speaker 1: But at the same time, the coaching staff has to

1861
01:31:24,920 --> 01:31:27,320
Speaker 1: know that, you know, you need like this is this

1862
01:31:27,520 --> 01:31:29,280
Speaker 1: was the problem. He just couldn't close the game out,

1863
01:31:29,360 --> 01:31:31,880
Speaker 1: you know, so maybe a better plan. I just I

1864
01:31:32,000 --> 01:31:34,679
Speaker 1: think they're a good defense, and I think Paul even

1865
01:31:34,760 --> 01:31:37,400
Speaker 1: you said, you know that they seem better than last year. Um,

1866
01:31:37,840 --> 01:31:39,880
Speaker 1: you know, I just I do have some hope on

1867
01:31:39,960 --> 01:31:42,040
Speaker 1: that side of the ball. I met in this game.

1868
01:31:42,080 --> 01:31:45,320
Speaker 1: I thought they were better overall this game this year.

1869
01:31:45,840 --> 01:31:48,200
Speaker 1: I don't neither. I just think that they generally. This

1870
01:31:48,400 --> 01:31:51,000
Speaker 1: was the first and I know that they haven't been

1871
01:31:51,040 --> 01:31:53,000
Speaker 1: a good offense, but I still look at the personnel

1872
01:31:53,040 --> 01:31:54,880
Speaker 1: when I say they got the pieces, were a good offense.

1873
01:31:54,920 --> 01:31:57,320
Speaker 1: They should be better offensively than they have been. And

1874
01:31:57,439 --> 01:31:59,960
Speaker 1: I thought they made him look like a very average group.

1875
01:32:00,400 --> 01:32:03,519
Speaker 1: I thought what Evans said about Josh Jacobs, he ran

1876
01:32:03,600 --> 01:32:05,640
Speaker 1: wild in the first half. They clamped it down and

1877
01:32:06,000 --> 01:32:09,000
Speaker 1: a lot of people were like McDaniel's idiot got away

1878
01:32:09,080 --> 01:32:11,400
Speaker 1: from Josh. No he didn't. They ran eight times for

1879
01:32:11,479 --> 01:32:14,160
Speaker 1: twenty three yards. They shut him down in the second half.

1880
01:32:14,479 --> 01:32:16,320
Speaker 1: That's why he didn't rush for as many yards in

1881
01:32:16,360 --> 01:32:19,160
Speaker 1: the second half, because the Patriots were much better on

1882
01:32:19,320 --> 01:32:21,400
Speaker 1: run defense in the second half. I thought the game

1883
01:32:21,479 --> 01:32:23,880
Speaker 1: played on defense was awesome because what they did. I

1884
01:32:23,920 --> 01:32:25,920
Speaker 1: thought they played well in this game defensively. I thought

1885
01:32:25,920 --> 01:32:28,479
Speaker 1: it was it was better than what I've seen. Yeah,

1886
01:32:28,520 --> 01:32:30,479
Speaker 1: I think what they tried to do is and they

1887
01:32:30,600 --> 01:32:33,040
Speaker 1: came out in all those two high shells, so they're

1888
01:32:33,080 --> 01:32:35,479
Speaker 1: playing too high and they're saying, we're just gonna give

1889
01:32:35,560 --> 01:32:37,519
Speaker 1: up some yards on the ground. But what it did

1890
01:32:37,640 --> 01:32:40,360
Speaker 1: is it got the Raiders passing game out of sink, right,

1891
01:32:40,439 --> 01:32:42,760
Speaker 1: because they were running the ball more, and then they

1892
01:32:42,800 --> 01:32:45,120
Speaker 1: were when they were passing, they were passing it into numbers. Right,

1893
01:32:45,160 --> 01:32:47,479
Speaker 1: they're passing into seven to eight guys in coverage. And

1894
01:32:47,640 --> 01:32:50,559
Speaker 1: the simulated pressures, you know, to Mike's point about dropping

1895
01:32:50,640 --> 01:32:52,960
Speaker 1: Jude on, those were working the entire game. I mean,

1896
01:32:53,000 --> 01:32:55,879
Speaker 1: Bentley had five, i think four or five quarterback pressures

1897
01:32:55,920 --> 01:32:58,000
Speaker 1: in this game by blitzing up the middle. And you

1898
01:32:58,160 --> 01:32:59,960
Speaker 1: watch it and you see, you know, Jermaine a loom

1899
01:33:00,240 --> 01:33:03,720
Speaker 1: or setting towards Jude on the left guard. Excuse me,

1900
01:33:03,760 --> 01:33:06,080
Speaker 1: the right guard is taking the tackle and then and

1901
01:33:06,160 --> 01:33:08,240
Speaker 1: then it just parsed the red seas for the guy

1902
01:33:08,320 --> 01:33:11,240
Speaker 1: coming up the middle. Met McMillan had another one later

1903
01:33:11,320 --> 01:33:15,200
Speaker 1: in the game too, on the similar, similar scheme. But

1904
01:33:15,400 --> 01:33:18,320
Speaker 1: I think the issue for me was that they tried

1905
01:33:18,360 --> 01:33:20,760
Speaker 1: it one too many times. They tried it again on

1906
01:33:20,840 --> 01:33:24,360
Speaker 1: the Keeling Coal touchdown, and it was like finally the

1907
01:33:24,479 --> 01:33:27,280
Speaker 1: Raiders got it blocked right, like they finally knew what

1908
01:33:27,479 --> 01:33:31,759
Speaker 1: it kind of had an answer to it, so eventually

1909
01:33:31,800 --> 01:33:33,479
Speaker 1: you have to have something else. And I agree with

1910
01:33:33,560 --> 01:33:35,920
Speaker 1: you on the plan. Mike and I were talking about it.

1911
01:33:35,960 --> 01:33:39,200
Speaker 1: There was I would say maybe a half dozen occasions

1912
01:33:39,360 --> 01:33:43,640
Speaker 1: where a car got back on his back foot and

1913
01:33:43,840 --> 01:33:46,280
Speaker 1: just stood there and looked around, and I was like, Wow,

1914
01:33:46,600 --> 01:33:48,720
Speaker 1: they must have those zones flood like you can't see

1915
01:33:48,800 --> 01:33:51,360
Speaker 1: on TV. They must have those zones flooded, and he

1916
01:33:51,439 --> 01:33:54,760
Speaker 1: must have no pockets. Now, I think that sort of

1917
01:33:54,840 --> 01:33:57,080
Speaker 1: to you a point, threw them out of sync. But

1918
01:33:57,160 --> 01:33:59,840
Speaker 1: I also think a huge play in the game was

1919
01:34:00,120 --> 01:34:03,080
Speaker 1: the first drive Marcus Jones. He's got him wide open

1920
01:34:03,200 --> 01:34:05,280
Speaker 1: and he throws it over the wrong shoulder and allows

1921
01:34:05,320 --> 01:34:07,080
Speaker 1: Marcus Jones to get back and ball to the play

1922
01:34:07,479 --> 01:34:09,560
Speaker 1: that should have been a touchdown. Like he's got to

1923
01:34:09,640 --> 01:34:11,960
Speaker 1: just lead him to this. No one there, there's no safety.

1924
01:34:12,320 --> 01:34:14,120
Speaker 1: I don't think was there a safety on the other

1925
01:34:14,160 --> 01:34:16,439
Speaker 1: side of the field. It's quarters and this is like

1926
01:34:16,520 --> 01:34:18,840
Speaker 1: the dangerous part. Like everybody is like when you call,

1927
01:34:18,920 --> 01:34:21,240
Speaker 1: when you say something's quarters, something's cover three, everybody's like, well,

1928
01:34:21,240 --> 01:34:23,320
Speaker 1: it's zone. It is zone. But on the outside it's man.

1929
01:34:23,680 --> 01:34:28,280
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's man like it's you're you're matched up right,

1930
01:34:28,360 --> 01:34:30,920
Speaker 1: like you're not, regardless of how you're getting to it

1931
01:34:31,600 --> 01:34:34,519
Speaker 1: on the outside, you're playing single coverage. That just is

1932
01:34:34,560 --> 01:34:36,880
Speaker 1: the way it is. So they ran like post cross

1933
01:34:37,040 --> 01:34:39,439
Speaker 1: which is like a common play action concept, and the

1934
01:34:39,520 --> 01:34:44,439
Speaker 1: safeties jumped the crosser and they left the deep post unleveraged. Now,

1935
01:34:45,080 --> 01:34:48,519
Speaker 1: this is the exact same play that Jason mccordy made

1936
01:34:48,560 --> 01:34:52,120
Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl against the Ramps. So the backside

1937
01:34:52,240 --> 01:34:56,360
Speaker 1: corner should be the one that helps over the top

1938
01:34:56,760 --> 01:34:59,040
Speaker 1: for the for the post, right, because they're running the

1939
01:34:59,080 --> 01:35:01,760
Speaker 1: crosser away from him, so there's nobody coming into his

1940
01:35:01,840 --> 01:35:03,920
Speaker 1: own so he's just covering grass. Yeah. Now I would

1941
01:35:03,920 --> 01:35:06,360
Speaker 1: say the difference between those two plays is the one

1942
01:35:06,400 --> 01:35:07,880
Speaker 1: of the Super Bowl is in the end zone and

1943
01:35:08,120 --> 01:35:11,080
Speaker 1: Cooks couldn't run any further. Yeah, he's sort of walked.

1944
01:35:11,200 --> 01:35:14,000
Speaker 1: Gared Goff was ten minutes too late and that I

1945
01:35:14,120 --> 01:35:16,040
Speaker 1: think this was just a bad throw and I think

1946
01:35:16,720 --> 01:35:19,160
Speaker 1: you might look at the rest of the game much

1947
01:35:19,280 --> 01:35:22,639
Speaker 1: differently if you're the Raiders if you hit that, which

1948
01:35:22,680 --> 01:35:25,240
Speaker 1: I think it's I think Marcus Jones did a great

1949
01:35:25,280 --> 01:35:28,120
Speaker 1: job of closing like he should. You guys don't need

1950
01:35:28,160 --> 01:35:30,240
Speaker 1: to have me tell you how much I love Marcus Jones.

1951
01:35:30,439 --> 01:35:33,679
Speaker 1: I think his closing speed was incredibly impressive on that play.

1952
01:35:34,760 --> 01:35:36,680
Speaker 1: You look at the replay, they probably should have been

1953
01:35:36,680 --> 01:35:39,479
Speaker 1: a touchdown anyway, it should have been like it was

1954
01:35:39,520 --> 01:35:41,760
Speaker 1: a missed opportunity. And I think that changes the whole

1955
01:35:41,800 --> 01:35:45,480
Speaker 1: complexion of like anything that the Patriots wanted to do defensively,

1956
01:35:46,080 --> 01:35:48,519
Speaker 1: if it involves a seventy yard touchdown or if a

1957
01:35:48,600 --> 01:35:51,720
Speaker 1: sixty yard touchdown, whatever the case was, heads you might not.

1958
01:35:52,360 --> 01:35:55,280
Speaker 1: You might say, if we do that, we're gonna leave

1959
01:35:55,280 --> 01:35:57,439
Speaker 1: ourselves susceptible to that. And what was your big thing, Mike,

1960
01:35:57,760 --> 01:36:00,040
Speaker 1: what was your big key going into the game? The

1961
01:36:00,080 --> 01:36:02,280
Speaker 1: big plays? Okay, how many times was Mac Hollins open?

1962
01:36:02,560 --> 01:36:04,880
Speaker 1: Now I know it's Mac Collins, that's not I look at.

1963
01:36:05,080 --> 01:36:08,240
Speaker 1: I focus on the DeVante Adams play because even with

1964
01:36:08,400 --> 01:36:10,759
Speaker 1: the throw where it was, and even with Marcus Jones

1965
01:36:10,800 --> 01:36:13,519
Speaker 1: getting back into the play, I think that was a drop.

1966
01:36:13,720 --> 01:36:16,719
Speaker 1: I think DeVante Adams has made that catch more often.

1967
01:36:16,760 --> 01:36:20,759
Speaker 1: I was stunned, So you're a point, Evan. I was stunned.

1968
01:36:21,120 --> 01:36:23,519
Speaker 1: And I think I'm not taking anything away from Marcus Jones.

1969
01:36:23,520 --> 01:36:26,599
Speaker 1: You want to give him a a PB. Absolutely, if

1970
01:36:26,640 --> 01:36:28,120
Speaker 1: you want to give it to him, give it to him.

1971
01:36:28,200 --> 01:36:30,439
Speaker 1: I think it's a drop, but only because of who

1972
01:36:30,520 --> 01:36:32,680
Speaker 1: it is. Yeah, I don't know what every would say

1973
01:36:32,680 --> 01:36:34,679
Speaker 1: to this, but when we were in Vegas, like mac

1974
01:36:34,720 --> 01:36:37,360
Speaker 1: Collins was surprisingly like active to me and I and

1975
01:36:37,680 --> 01:36:39,599
Speaker 1: that was coming even as I was blown away by

1976
01:36:39,640 --> 01:36:41,720
Speaker 1: Adams and Renfrow and what they were doing. But I

1977
01:36:41,800 --> 01:36:44,320
Speaker 1: just think, I'm like, he's getting a lot of looks.

1978
01:36:44,520 --> 01:36:46,240
Speaker 1: You can see if they had all of those guys

1979
01:36:46,280 --> 01:36:50,200
Speaker 1: all year and he's like the fourth guy. Just that's

1980
01:36:50,280 --> 01:36:52,400
Speaker 1: not bad. He was asked to be the second guy

1981
01:36:52,479 --> 01:36:55,360
Speaker 1: all year. He's I think the Raiders haven't walked up

1982
01:36:55,360 --> 01:36:57,479
Speaker 1: for a couple of years. But like that's the exact

1983
01:36:57,560 --> 01:36:59,320
Speaker 1: kind of guy that Bill sides and everybody's like, oh,

1984
01:36:59,400 --> 01:37:01,880
Speaker 1: nice little play that they signed here because he can play.

1985
01:37:02,120 --> 01:37:04,679
Speaker 1: He can play special teams, he can play on the receiver,

1986
01:37:05,320 --> 01:37:08,800
Speaker 1: He even down the punts inside the he get away

1987
01:37:08,840 --> 01:37:11,960
Speaker 1: from that. He's there big offseason addition now, right, which

1988
01:37:12,040 --> 01:37:14,000
Speaker 1: is a guy who works back. He's a guy who

1989
01:37:14,080 --> 01:37:18,400
Speaker 1: works when you have Davante Adams, Yeah, he's he's like, uh,

1990
01:37:18,920 --> 01:37:21,320
Speaker 1: I don't know, see Kendrick Bourne or Nelson. Yeah, I

1991
01:37:21,360 --> 01:37:23,640
Speaker 1: mean not the same style of player. He's probably not

1992
01:37:23,720 --> 01:37:26,560
Speaker 1: as fast as Agalore, but that's him. Like he's a

1993
01:37:26,600 --> 01:37:28,960
Speaker 1: complimentary piece if you have a he had the one

1994
01:37:29,200 --> 01:37:31,160
Speaker 1: he had, the one where he got behind Jonathan Jones

1995
01:37:31,160 --> 01:37:35,720
Speaker 1: that should have been a touchdown, that terrible overthrew. The

1996
01:37:36,040 --> 01:37:38,599
Speaker 1: second one that I think you're talking about, the coverage

1997
01:37:38,680 --> 01:37:41,280
Speaker 1: was was better than I think you're giving it credit for. No,

1998
01:37:41,439 --> 01:37:42,880
Speaker 1: I'm just saying that he was in the clear and

1999
01:37:42,920 --> 01:37:45,240
Speaker 1: the throw was on the wrong side. That's all there was.

2000
01:37:45,400 --> 01:37:47,439
Speaker 1: He was Yeah, because car there were like three d

2001
01:37:48,560 --> 01:37:50,800
Speaker 1: the guy's going the going, the guy's going down the

2002
01:37:50,880 --> 01:37:53,600
Speaker 1: field deep, and he's probably between the hashes. Yeah, and

2003
01:37:53,680 --> 01:37:55,800
Speaker 1: the throw needed to be to the right hash, and

2004
01:37:55,880 --> 01:37:58,320
Speaker 1: it was toward the left hash, which causes the guy

2005
01:37:58,400 --> 01:38:00,640
Speaker 1: to sort of alter his route and gets him back

2006
01:38:00,680 --> 01:38:03,280
Speaker 1: into coverage. Yeah. Like so now he's he's covered like

2007
01:38:03,520 --> 01:38:06,040
Speaker 1: the Marcus Jones playing. Yeah, I think if he throws

2008
01:38:06,080 --> 01:38:08,559
Speaker 1: that to the right hash, I don't care what closing

2009
01:38:08,560 --> 01:38:10,599
Speaker 1: speed you had, you weren't gonna you were too far behind.

2010
01:38:10,680 --> 01:38:12,800
Speaker 1: If he just could run to the ball right, that's

2011
01:38:12,840 --> 01:38:14,679
Speaker 1: what was going to happen. The throw took him back

2012
01:38:15,080 --> 01:38:18,479
Speaker 1: to the inside and allowed Marcus Jones to bother him. Yeah,

2013
01:38:18,520 --> 01:38:22,479
Speaker 1: those were those two plays. The one that mccollins got

2014
01:38:22,520 --> 01:38:24,840
Speaker 1: behind Jonathan Jones later on in the game. Actually, there

2015
01:38:24,920 --> 01:38:26,800
Speaker 1: was one that went off his hands that I think

2016
01:38:26,800 --> 01:38:28,920
Speaker 1: it was in the drive before their game winning drive.

2017
01:38:29,080 --> 01:38:31,240
Speaker 1: I believe it was maybe or maybe it was the

2018
01:38:31,280 --> 01:38:33,680
Speaker 1: game winning drive or game time drive. Excuse me, I

2019
01:38:33,760 --> 01:38:35,360
Speaker 1: think it was. I think it was a deep ball

2020
01:38:35,439 --> 01:38:37,680
Speaker 1: on that drive, on that drive that it could have

2021
01:38:37,800 --> 01:38:40,080
Speaker 1: they could have gotten the tie touchdown on that plank

2022
01:38:40,520 --> 01:38:43,800
Speaker 1: possession before when they have Adam streaking across the field

2023
01:38:44,240 --> 01:38:48,200
Speaker 1: kind of uncovered, yeah, and Darren Waller reached up and

2024
01:38:48,280 --> 01:38:52,080
Speaker 1: knocked out. Yeah. There were like seven guys that looked

2025
01:38:52,080 --> 01:38:54,439
Speaker 1: like Patriots offense. We got two guys in the same spot.

2026
01:38:55,080 --> 01:38:56,800
Speaker 1: Well that and the only reason why it ended up

2027
01:38:56,840 --> 01:38:58,760
Speaker 1: that way is because it was a scrambled drill, Like

2028
01:38:59,320 --> 01:39:03,320
Speaker 1: the initial play was covered and they that pass. Yeah,

2029
01:39:03,320 --> 01:39:06,240
Speaker 1: they were just trying to get open. Yeah, okay, hey,

2030
01:39:06,320 --> 01:39:09,960
Speaker 1: but I think the that was sort of a lot

2031
01:39:10,000 --> 01:39:11,880
Speaker 1: of the game plan in this game, and they finally

2032
01:39:11,920 --> 01:39:14,479
Speaker 1: got burned up by it by on the keeling coal touchdown.

2033
01:39:14,680 --> 01:39:18,519
Speaker 1: Was they knew that Mac Hollins and Keelan Cole, we're

2034
01:39:18,560 --> 01:39:20,479
Speaker 1: gonna have a lot of space, right, Like they were

2035
01:39:20,520 --> 01:39:22,559
Speaker 1: going to be one on one against guys, and they

2036
01:39:22,600 --> 01:39:24,160
Speaker 1: were gonna have a lot of space because a lot

2037
01:39:24,240 --> 01:39:27,280
Speaker 1: of the coverage was rotating towards Davante Adams obviously, which

2038
01:39:27,280 --> 01:39:31,120
Speaker 1: I think was obviously a sound right, but it didn't

2039
01:39:31,280 --> 01:39:34,519
Speaker 1: really burn them until the coal Touchdown's grab one more

2040
01:39:34,560 --> 01:39:39,040
Speaker 1: call here Adam down in Pennsylvania. Hey Adam, what's going on? Hey? Everyone?

2041
01:39:39,160 --> 01:39:45,000
Speaker 1: How they're going good? I've been better? Yeah, So let's

2042
01:39:45,280 --> 01:39:46,640
Speaker 1: you know, I just want to go back to the

2043
01:39:46,720 --> 01:39:49,519
Speaker 1: last play on Sunday, So just thinking back to that,

2044
01:39:49,760 --> 01:39:52,320
Speaker 1: Like what struck me with the way that last play

2045
01:39:52,400 --> 01:39:55,360
Speaker 1: played out was that, you know what happened was that

2046
01:39:56,160 --> 01:39:59,240
Speaker 1: these guys they took the game into their own hands, right,

2047
01:39:59,479 --> 01:40:02,240
Speaker 1: the just said let's right out the clock and play

2048
01:40:02,280 --> 01:40:06,919
Speaker 1: for OT. But Ramandre Stevenson, Jakobe Myers, they said, essentially,

2049
01:40:07,080 --> 01:40:09,160
Speaker 1: you know, we know better than our coaches, so let's

2050
01:40:09,160 --> 01:40:11,160
Speaker 1: win it now, right, Like, let's try to end this

2051
01:40:11,280 --> 01:40:14,000
Speaker 1: in regulation because we don't know what's going to happen

2052
01:40:14,040 --> 01:40:17,479
Speaker 1: in OT And just thinking about it, you know it

2053
01:40:17,560 --> 01:40:20,920
Speaker 1: just felt very desperate, And I think that's just one

2054
01:40:20,920 --> 01:40:23,439
Speaker 1: of the most disappointing parts about that last place that

2055
01:40:24,080 --> 01:40:28,320
Speaker 1: it fully demonstrated that these guys don't trust their coaches, right, Like,

2056
01:40:28,640 --> 01:40:31,400
Speaker 1: we don't trust that our coaches know what's best for us.

2057
01:40:32,040 --> 01:40:33,719
Speaker 1: We don't believe they can put us in a position

2058
01:40:33,800 --> 01:40:36,160
Speaker 1: to win this game, so we need to try to

2059
01:40:36,200 --> 01:40:38,880
Speaker 1: improvise and be the heroes ourselves, like, you know, they'd

2060
01:40:39,040 --> 01:40:42,280
Speaker 1: rather chance it with laterals in a tie game than

2061
01:40:42,760 --> 01:40:44,880
Speaker 1: take things to ot and just see what happens. And

2062
01:40:45,840 --> 01:40:48,880
Speaker 1: you know, I know we harp on the good old days,

2063
01:40:49,080 --> 01:40:52,640
Speaker 1: you know, the dynasty, you know, but this would not

2064
01:40:52,880 --> 01:40:54,800
Speaker 1: have ever happened in the past twenty years. You know,

2065
01:40:54,880 --> 01:40:57,560
Speaker 1: no one would have ever questioned the play Paul, or

2066
01:40:57,600 --> 01:41:00,400
Speaker 1: the game plan or the goal. And now it just

2067
01:41:00,520 --> 01:41:02,559
Speaker 1: feels like these players are ready to go a wall

2068
01:41:02,640 --> 01:41:04,960
Speaker 1: or off scrit to try to win a game because

2069
01:41:05,120 --> 01:41:07,560
Speaker 1: they just don't have trust and the coaches that you

2070
01:41:07,640 --> 01:41:10,560
Speaker 1: know that they can guide them to victory. So, you know,

2071
01:41:10,760 --> 01:41:13,200
Speaker 1: that was just something that just kind of reflecting on

2072
01:41:13,320 --> 01:41:14,880
Speaker 1: that play, it was just kind of a sobering thought

2073
01:41:14,920 --> 01:41:17,880
Speaker 1: that came to mind that just watching these guys they

2074
01:41:18,800 --> 01:41:21,160
Speaker 1: they just really don't trust the coaching and that that

2075
01:41:21,360 --> 01:41:25,800
Speaker 1: play it just really fully embodies that. So I hope

2076
01:41:25,840 --> 01:41:28,280
Speaker 1: they learned their lesson, you know, to trust their coaching

2077
01:41:28,840 --> 01:41:32,320
Speaker 1: even if it's you know, not always perfect, but you know,

2078
01:41:32,360 --> 01:41:35,000
Speaker 1: it potentially cost us a playoff spot. So I just

2079
01:41:35,040 --> 01:41:37,000
Speaker 1: wanted to get your guys thoughts there and I'll take

2080
01:41:37,040 --> 01:41:40,519
Speaker 1: it offline. Thanks. Thanks, Adam, appreciate the call. I mean,

2081
01:41:40,720 --> 01:41:42,760
Speaker 1: flirting with what we were talking about little bit. I

2082
01:41:42,800 --> 01:41:44,600
Speaker 1: just don't I just wonder how organic it wasn't. I mean,

2083
01:41:44,640 --> 01:41:47,240
Speaker 1: this is something that like I love to ask romand

2084
01:41:47,560 --> 01:41:49,920
Speaker 1: great unknown, right, like what did it just occur to

2085
01:41:50,040 --> 01:41:52,360
Speaker 1: Romandre as he was getting tackled? And you know, I

2086
01:41:52,400 --> 01:41:54,200
Speaker 1: think Evan threw out like he thought maybe they were

2087
01:41:54,280 --> 01:41:56,680
Speaker 1: closer and that Jacobe had a few yards to go.

2088
01:41:57,360 --> 01:41:59,439
Speaker 1: But I still think it was spur of the moment,

2089
01:41:59,560 --> 01:42:03,719
Speaker 1: Romandre throwing it back to Jacoby, and Jacoby just reacting

2090
01:42:03,840 --> 01:42:05,439
Speaker 1: thinking all right, I guess this is what we're doing.

2091
01:42:05,479 --> 01:42:08,320
Speaker 1: We're gonna start lateraling the ball right now without like,

2092
01:42:08,520 --> 01:42:10,479
Speaker 1: you know, it's interesting you can out a chat before.

2093
01:42:10,800 --> 01:42:12,280
Speaker 1: Do you think there was any kind of mention of

2094
01:42:12,560 --> 01:42:15,479
Speaker 1: the word lateral prior to that play being called and run.

2095
01:42:16,600 --> 01:42:18,800
Speaker 1: And I don't not to pick on the collar, but

2096
01:42:19,080 --> 01:42:21,800
Speaker 1: I don't think it's that deep. I don't think it's

2097
01:42:21,840 --> 01:42:24,960
Speaker 1: that deep that they are like the coaching staff doesn't

2098
01:42:25,000 --> 01:42:28,120
Speaker 1: know what it's doing, like in the maybe in the

2099
01:42:28,240 --> 01:42:30,840
Speaker 1: sense of like now that they are sitting on a

2100
01:42:30,920 --> 01:42:33,640
Speaker 1: Tuesday and reflecting on it, maybe they get there. But

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01:42:33,840 --> 01:42:37,280
Speaker 1: like in the game, like in that moment, I don't

2102
01:42:37,360 --> 01:42:41,120
Speaker 1: think that the thing that's popping through more Stevens's head

2103
01:42:41,680 --> 01:42:44,000
Speaker 1: in that moment as he's running with the football in

2104
01:42:44,120 --> 01:42:46,320
Speaker 1: an NFL game is you know what, Maddie Bee doesn't

2105
01:42:46,320 --> 01:42:47,679
Speaker 1: know what the hell he's doing, so I'm just gonna

2106
01:42:47,680 --> 01:42:49,320
Speaker 1: flip this ball to the job And would have to

2107
01:42:49,360 --> 01:42:51,760
Speaker 1: be premeditated, right, And I agree with you, guys. I

2108
01:42:51,800 --> 01:42:53,760
Speaker 1: don't think it was premeditated. I think it was something

2109
01:42:54,080 --> 01:42:56,240
Speaker 1: that came about on the spur of the moment, like

2110
01:42:56,240 --> 01:42:57,960
Speaker 1: they're trying to get Billy about the touchdown. And I

2111
01:42:58,080 --> 01:43:02,920
Speaker 1: do think I like your theories, you guys. I like

2112
01:43:03,040 --> 01:43:06,920
Speaker 1: your theories that like maybe he's thinking, well, you know,

2113
01:43:06,960 --> 01:43:11,960
Speaker 1: I ran a draw, like I went like twenty five yard.

2114
01:43:12,000 --> 01:43:16,840
Speaker 1: I think he got like twenty You know, maybe he

2115
01:43:16,960 --> 01:43:21,040
Speaker 1: did think I'm like inside the twenty, so I can

2116
01:43:21,120 --> 01:43:24,439
Speaker 1: try it here, and then you know, what's the worst

2117
01:43:24,479 --> 01:43:26,720
Speaker 1: that's gonna happen. It's like that it's gonna be like

2118
01:43:26,840 --> 01:43:30,800
Speaker 1: eighty yards, but not realizing, oh wait a minute, I

2119
01:43:30,960 --> 01:43:33,720
Speaker 1: only just got into Radors territory. Now I flip it

2120
01:43:33,760 --> 01:43:36,160
Speaker 1: back to Myers, who throws it across the field, and

2121
01:43:36,240 --> 01:43:38,439
Speaker 1: now we're running on our side of the field. So

2122
01:43:38,600 --> 01:43:43,200
Speaker 1: if something bad happens, which did, it's not really that

2123
01:43:43,400 --> 01:43:45,840
Speaker 1: that much of a stretch. Like if if if everybody's

2124
01:43:45,840 --> 01:43:48,080
Speaker 1: in the same spot and you're twenty five yards further

2125
01:43:48,800 --> 01:43:51,400
Speaker 1: and Chandler Jones catches it, he probably still goes for

2126
01:43:51,479 --> 01:43:53,680
Speaker 1: a touchdown, but at least you have a chance to

2127
01:43:53,760 --> 01:43:55,600
Speaker 1: chase him down. Your skill guys might be able to

2128
01:43:55,680 --> 01:43:58,280
Speaker 1: chase him down, I mean forty five yards once he

2129
01:43:58,479 --> 01:44:01,679
Speaker 1: once he pile drives ac Jones into the turf game

2130
01:44:01,720 --> 01:44:04,120
Speaker 1: set match, there's nobody, No one would even had a

2131
01:44:04,160 --> 01:44:08,600
Speaker 1: sniff to catch him. That was That was sort of

2132
01:44:09,000 --> 01:44:14,160
Speaker 1: the gist of what I got from Remandre's perspective is

2133
01:44:14,800 --> 01:44:16,880
Speaker 1: I think the worst thing that happened on that play

2134
01:44:17,560 --> 01:44:21,360
Speaker 1: was Chandler Jones actually initially misses the tackle on Remandre,

2135
01:44:21,920 --> 01:44:24,720
Speaker 1: and Remandre because the rest of the defense is in

2136
01:44:24,840 --> 01:44:28,320
Speaker 1: pre event, there's nobody for another twenty yards, and I

2137
01:44:28,479 --> 01:44:32,439
Speaker 1: think that he thought he was a lot closer to

2138
01:44:32,600 --> 01:44:35,640
Speaker 1: the end zone right than he actually was. And to

2139
01:44:35,800 --> 01:44:39,439
Speaker 1: your point, you said, I'm gonna lateral it to Jacobe,

2140
01:44:39,479 --> 01:44:41,400
Speaker 1: who's going to take it the rest of the way,

2141
01:44:42,360 --> 01:44:44,760
Speaker 1: or he's just going to realize that there's nothing else,

2142
01:44:44,800 --> 01:44:47,120
Speaker 1: there's nowhere else to go, and I'll go down and

2143
01:44:47,200 --> 01:44:52,680
Speaker 1: we'll go to overtime. So I'm not trying to Remandre

2144
01:44:52,800 --> 01:44:55,479
Speaker 1: is also to blame for starting the whole chain of events,

2145
01:44:57,080 --> 01:45:00,400
Speaker 1: but I think that when he got loose a little bit,

2146
01:45:01,120 --> 01:45:03,639
Speaker 1: I think that he thought to himself, oh, oh crap,

2147
01:45:03,720 --> 01:45:07,080
Speaker 1: I'm I'm getting I'm getting there, like I'm getting there,

2148
01:45:07,640 --> 01:45:09,720
Speaker 1: and you know what to do if you got there,

2149
01:45:10,360 --> 01:45:13,360
Speaker 1: And that was sort of where it all started to

2150
01:45:13,400 --> 01:45:15,400
Speaker 1: go wrong, and it like it was poor. It was

2151
01:45:15,439 --> 01:45:18,800
Speaker 1: a poor plan like in all around. But it was

2152
01:45:18,880 --> 01:45:21,560
Speaker 1: funny because I listened to Chandler Jones talking about it,

2153
01:45:21,600 --> 01:45:26,200
Speaker 1: and he talked about missing the tackle. He was trying

2154
01:45:26,240 --> 01:45:28,240
Speaker 1: to strip the ball, which is why he you know,

2155
01:45:28,520 --> 01:45:30,400
Speaker 1: partly at least why he missed the tackle. I mean,

2156
01:45:30,400 --> 01:45:34,479
Speaker 1: it happens all the time. But the whole Raiders defense,

2157
01:45:34,520 --> 01:45:37,240
Speaker 1: they had to have eight guys inside there, twenty yeah,

2158
01:45:37,920 --> 01:45:40,639
Speaker 1: so like the fact that you go twenty Like I've

2159
01:45:40,680 --> 01:45:42,920
Speaker 1: kind of heard some rumblings of this too, not a lot,

2160
01:45:42,960 --> 01:45:45,080
Speaker 1: because everybody's so pissed off. No one's really looking at

2161
01:45:45,120 --> 01:45:47,280
Speaker 1: the bright side. But well, he broke into the cli.

2162
01:45:47,479 --> 01:45:51,080
Speaker 1: No he didn't. There were no Raiders defenders there, like

2163
01:45:51,280 --> 01:45:54,439
Speaker 1: all the Raiders defenders were still to be beaten because

2164
01:45:54,479 --> 01:45:56,560
Speaker 1: they were all playing for the hill Mary right and

2165
01:45:56,600 --> 01:45:58,640
Speaker 1: the breaking into the clear. It was the worst thing

2166
01:45:58,680 --> 01:46:01,200
Speaker 1: that happened, right in my mind, because at that point,

2167
01:46:01,280 --> 01:46:05,160
Speaker 1: I think that to Vermandre, he thought to himself like

2168
01:46:05,640 --> 01:46:07,720
Speaker 1: I think I'm only like twenty or thirty yards out

2169
01:46:07,800 --> 01:46:09,439
Speaker 1: or maybe even less right, like maybe he thinks I

2170
01:46:09,479 --> 01:46:11,840
Speaker 1: think he thought was closer than he was. Rightever, that

2171
01:46:12,040 --> 01:46:14,920
Speaker 1: number is right, but I just think that there was

2172
01:46:15,000 --> 01:46:17,559
Speaker 1: no on no planet did he think when he handed

2173
01:46:17,600 --> 01:46:21,120
Speaker 1: that ball tossed it to Jacoby that Jacoby would do

2174
01:46:21,200 --> 01:46:23,479
Speaker 1: what he did And I can't play him. His lateral

2175
01:46:23,920 --> 01:46:27,640
Speaker 1: was really reckless, like he just flips it over his

2176
01:46:27,760 --> 01:46:31,160
Speaker 1: head without looking it wasn't a fumble, but it was dangerous.

2177
01:46:31,240 --> 01:46:33,800
Speaker 1: He threw it. He threw it over his head like

2178
01:46:34,160 --> 01:46:39,040
Speaker 1: like almost like I mean, I'm not it's unfortunate, like

2179
01:46:39,240 --> 01:46:42,800
Speaker 1: Myers ends up getting picked off. He's looking, he sees Mac.

2180
01:46:43,080 --> 01:46:46,360
Speaker 1: He's throwing it to Mac. He just didn't see Chandler Jones.

2181
01:46:46,479 --> 01:46:49,240
Speaker 1: Which Chandler Jones is actually on the ground, correct, and

2182
01:46:49,320 --> 01:46:52,160
Speaker 1: he got up pointed. Yeah, like this is the difference.

2183
01:46:52,439 --> 01:46:55,320
Speaker 1: Like it was a like just a calamity of bad

2184
01:46:55,439 --> 01:47:00,200
Speaker 1: luck and bad everything like Chandler Jones. There's not not

2185
01:47:00,439 --> 01:47:03,720
Speaker 1: every defensive lineman in football has the ability to do

2186
01:47:03,760 --> 01:47:05,320
Speaker 1: with channel with Jones did. I'm not telling you he's

2187
01:47:05,360 --> 01:47:07,599
Speaker 1: the only one, because there's a lot of athletic defensive

2188
01:47:07,680 --> 01:47:11,280
Speaker 1: ends in football. But he made that look ridiculously easy. Yeah,

2189
01:47:11,439 --> 01:47:15,599
Speaker 1: getting up off the ground, high pointing the ball, stiff

2190
01:47:15,720 --> 01:47:18,360
Speaker 1: arming Mac Jones and then just ram rumbling into the

2191
01:47:18,439 --> 01:47:20,880
Speaker 1: end zone like look like a tight end. Yeah, yeah,

2192
01:47:21,000 --> 01:47:23,519
Speaker 1: Max gotta make that tackle. Let's go down to Andrew

2193
01:47:23,640 --> 01:47:30,040
Speaker 1: and Australia at least try by the face masks like

2194
01:47:30,080 --> 01:47:35,519
Speaker 1: horse collar you do something and that that still shot, guys,

2195
01:47:35,960 --> 01:47:41,160
Speaker 1: I can't look at its Christmas car sorry, Andrew, where

2196
01:47:41,200 --> 01:47:44,960
Speaker 1: we're rambling on here? That wasn't That wasn't nice. But

2197
01:47:45,160 --> 01:47:50,800
Speaker 1: I just said to me, what do you got Andrew? Hey,

2198
01:47:50,880 --> 01:47:54,599
Speaker 1: so first time caller, thanks very much for taking my call. Um.

2199
01:47:54,880 --> 01:47:58,040
Speaker 1: You guys probably already discussed this, but I got two

2200
01:47:58,120 --> 01:48:01,000
Speaker 1: comments on this game. None of this stuff you guys

2201
01:48:01,080 --> 01:48:04,160
Speaker 1: have just been talking about would have happened if the

2202
01:48:04,280 --> 01:48:07,280
Speaker 1: offense could have gotten one or two first downs with

2203
01:48:07,360 --> 01:48:10,160
Speaker 1: three minutes to go. Um, and then after that if

2204
01:48:10,200 --> 01:48:13,840
Speaker 1: the defense could have actually stopped him. UM. So my

2205
01:48:14,000 --> 01:48:16,720
Speaker 1: comments really, how much of that's on coaching? How much

2206
01:48:16,840 --> 01:48:20,479
Speaker 1: that is on the players in executing? Um? And if

2207
01:48:20,520 --> 01:48:25,599
Speaker 1: it's coaching, can we start just driving a new the straight?

2208
01:48:25,760 --> 01:48:28,040
Speaker 1: Can we do we start protesting and getting rid of

2209
01:48:28,120 --> 01:48:33,160
Speaker 1: coach Patrizia because goodn't disgracious enough already. I'll take it

2210
01:48:33,160 --> 01:48:36,240
Speaker 1: off there, appreciate it, uh, I mean everything. It's hard

2211
01:48:36,280 --> 01:48:40,639
Speaker 1: to in the first two plays, I just the overall start,

2212
01:48:41,320 --> 01:48:43,280
Speaker 1: going back to the spring, it's just cast a shadow

2213
01:48:43,560 --> 01:48:45,360
Speaker 1: over all of this. And so as much as I

2214
01:48:45,439 --> 01:48:47,800
Speaker 1: have issues with Matt Jones, I just I struggle to

2215
01:48:48,439 --> 01:48:50,080
Speaker 1: get to that point because I don't think he's like

2216
01:48:50,200 --> 01:48:52,479
Speaker 1: he's been put in position to succeed, and you know

2217
01:48:52,880 --> 01:48:55,840
Speaker 1: it's I just I have I struggle to get past that.

2218
01:48:55,960 --> 01:48:58,920
Speaker 1: Now that said, I think the defense, it's just kind

2219
01:48:58,960 --> 01:49:01,599
Speaker 1: of execution there the end, where you know, whether it's

2220
01:49:01,760 --> 01:49:03,479
Speaker 1: what they need to do to get the pass rush there,

2221
01:49:03,520 --> 01:49:05,280
Speaker 1: or the pass rush was themselves they need to get there.

2222
01:49:05,640 --> 01:49:07,519
Speaker 1: That's that was to me the issue at the end.

2223
01:49:07,560 --> 01:49:10,040
Speaker 1: It's just, you know, your last drive, you need somebody

2224
01:49:10,080 --> 01:49:11,479
Speaker 1: to step up and close the game out, and they

2225
01:49:11,479 --> 01:49:13,960
Speaker 1: didn't get it. And offensively, I mean, what are you

2226
01:49:13,960 --> 01:49:15,559
Speaker 1: gonna say like they should have been able to close

2227
01:49:15,600 --> 01:49:18,160
Speaker 1: it out. I guess, but I mean they've struggled to

2228
01:49:18,200 --> 01:49:19,760
Speaker 1: move the ball all year long, so I can't say

2229
01:49:19,800 --> 01:49:22,240
Speaker 1: that they should have done anything. Defensively, I have a

2230
01:49:22,240 --> 01:49:25,880
Speaker 1: little bit higher expectations. Yeah, the pass rush on the

2231
01:49:25,920 --> 01:49:30,679
Speaker 1: final drive was disappointing because it felt like they didn't

2232
01:49:30,760 --> 01:49:33,920
Speaker 1: really they didn't really try some of the tricks that

2233
01:49:34,040 --> 01:49:36,519
Speaker 1: worked in the beginning of beginning for the first fifty

2234
01:49:36,600 --> 01:49:39,720
Speaker 1: eight minutes of the game until the cold touchdown, and

2235
01:49:39,800 --> 01:49:42,000
Speaker 1: then when they what they tried on the coal touchdown

2236
01:49:42,040 --> 01:49:43,679
Speaker 1: was the same plan that they had been running all game,

2237
01:49:43,800 --> 01:49:46,880
Speaker 1: and the Raiders were just ready for it finally, So

2238
01:49:47,320 --> 01:49:50,720
Speaker 1: they're rushing four guys right like they're just standard four

2239
01:49:50,800 --> 01:49:55,439
Speaker 1: man rush, seven drop in coverage, and Barnward came close

2240
01:49:55,880 --> 01:49:58,240
Speaker 1: a few times he beat his guy, but car was

2241
01:49:58,560 --> 01:50:00,840
Speaker 1: got the ball out because he was running running those

2242
01:50:00,880 --> 01:50:03,240
Speaker 1: deep outs to the sideline. You know there's deep comebacks

2243
01:50:03,280 --> 01:50:05,640
Speaker 1: and that those are pretty quick plays. So they just

2244
01:50:05,760 --> 01:50:08,760
Speaker 1: didn't get it get there fully. And yeah, I would

2245
01:50:08,800 --> 01:50:12,360
Speaker 1: agree that as much as I the last play was

2246
01:50:12,400 --> 01:50:14,559
Speaker 1: the last play. You have to look at it at

2247
01:50:14,640 --> 01:50:16,920
Speaker 1: some degree and say, your defense is your strength, right

2248
01:50:17,000 --> 01:50:19,840
Speaker 1: like your defense is what you're is the good side

2249
01:50:19,880 --> 01:50:22,720
Speaker 1: of the ball, if you will, so that if you're

2250
01:50:22,760 --> 01:50:25,599
Speaker 1: gonna be confident in any side of the football winning

2251
01:50:25,640 --> 01:50:27,640
Speaker 1: a game for you in that type of situation, it

2252
01:50:27,680 --> 01:50:30,280
Speaker 1: would be the defense. Now, Barmo, you mentioned Barmer who

2253
01:50:30,360 --> 01:50:32,240
Speaker 1: came back and early in the game he had like

2254
01:50:32,400 --> 01:50:35,080
Speaker 1: a sack that was just looked like he destroyed their car,

2255
01:50:35,200 --> 01:50:37,120
Speaker 1: like he just I mean it was kind of vintage Barmore.

2256
01:50:37,880 --> 01:50:40,200
Speaker 1: Would you would you think of his game returning? Yeah,

2257
01:50:40,200 --> 01:50:41,880
Speaker 1: I thought he looked good. I thought he looked good.

2258
01:50:41,960 --> 01:50:45,439
Speaker 1: Dodd looked healthy. Um, you know he he only got

2259
01:50:45,560 --> 01:50:48,559
Speaker 1: credited for the one sack by PFF. But I thought

2260
01:50:48,560 --> 01:50:51,439
Speaker 1: that he was more impactful than the stats suggested in

2261
01:50:51,560 --> 01:50:54,960
Speaker 1: this game. Had a couple of nice two gap style

2262
01:50:55,160 --> 01:50:58,080
Speaker 1: you know, run stops as well. I thought he played

2263
01:50:58,120 --> 01:51:00,960
Speaker 1: pretty well for the first game back, and he was

2264
01:51:01,040 --> 01:51:04,439
Speaker 1: beating the blockers, right. It wasn't he wasn't always impacting

2265
01:51:04,479 --> 01:51:07,000
Speaker 1: the throw because maybe the throw was getting out quicker

2266
01:51:07,080 --> 01:51:09,400
Speaker 1: than you know, he was able to get there. But

2267
01:51:09,640 --> 01:51:12,880
Speaker 1: I thought that he was beating the blockers and Daniel

2268
01:51:12,920 --> 01:51:14,760
Speaker 1: Aquality was getting all to ask you about him, you

2269
01:51:14,800 --> 01:51:16,559
Speaker 1: think he's a player, so it's just kind of a guy.

2270
01:51:16,920 --> 01:51:18,600
Speaker 1: I think he's kind of a guy. But he was

2271
01:51:18,640 --> 01:51:20,800
Speaker 1: getting a lot of one on ones against Arizona, and

2272
01:51:20,880 --> 01:51:23,160
Speaker 1: that was where sack came against Arizona, was on a

2273
01:51:23,200 --> 01:51:25,639
Speaker 1: one on one. And now if you put Christian Barmore

2274
01:51:25,680 --> 01:51:28,800
Speaker 1: in that spot instead of Daniel Aquale that I think

2275
01:51:28,840 --> 01:51:31,240
Speaker 1: that's a pretty clear upgrade for you and you should

2276
01:51:31,240 --> 01:51:34,920
Speaker 1: be able to, you know, use that to your advantage.

2277
01:51:35,280 --> 01:51:36,920
Speaker 1: I haven't done any emails here in the last hour,

2278
01:51:37,000 --> 01:51:38,680
Speaker 1: but I did want to at least get to this one.

2279
01:51:39,240 --> 01:51:41,280
Speaker 1: El from Wisconsin wrote in and just said, you know,

2280
01:51:41,320 --> 01:51:43,120
Speaker 1: why do he keeps saying someone has earned a spot.

2281
01:51:43,240 --> 01:51:45,800
Speaker 1: If money is anywhere near equal, well that's something else.

2282
01:51:45,840 --> 01:51:48,599
Speaker 1: But I think that the caller called in and said,

2283
01:51:48,600 --> 01:51:50,200
Speaker 1: who's earned a spot for next year? And so we

2284
01:51:50,280 --> 01:51:52,479
Speaker 1: were just kind of generally saying, who do we feel

2285
01:51:52,479 --> 01:51:54,320
Speaker 1: like players to build around. I mean, certainly there's a

2286
01:51:54,320 --> 01:51:56,680
Speaker 1: bunch of guys who were free agents that decisions have

2287
01:51:56,840 --> 01:51:59,479
Speaker 1: to be made on, but or you know, as Evan

2288
01:51:59,520 --> 01:52:02,080
Speaker 1: pointed out, guys that they could release with an out

2289
01:52:02,160 --> 01:52:05,040
Speaker 1: in their contract. Um, But I don't think it's not

2290
01:52:05,120 --> 01:52:07,719
Speaker 1: really we're not really saying, like, you know, outside of contract,

2291
01:52:07,760 --> 01:52:09,720
Speaker 1: who should or shouldn't be there. It's yeah, and it's

2292
01:52:09,760 --> 01:52:12,400
Speaker 1: hard like that. That caller was asking us how many

2293
01:52:12,479 --> 01:52:15,200
Speaker 1: players like, probably a lot. I don't know, you know,

2294
01:52:15,520 --> 01:52:19,439
Speaker 1: how many you have turnover every year as Bill loves

2295
01:52:19,479 --> 01:52:22,479
Speaker 1: to tell us as turnover year, but how many guys

2296
01:52:23,200 --> 01:52:25,360
Speaker 1: remain on a roster from one year to the next

2297
01:52:25,800 --> 01:52:28,280
Speaker 1: as an average rule in the NFL. I don't have

2298
01:52:28,320 --> 01:52:31,360
Speaker 1: the number off the average number. I mean, you have

2299
01:52:31,439 --> 01:52:33,960
Speaker 1: fifty three three I'm talking to five. I'm just talking

2300
01:52:34,000 --> 01:52:37,280
Speaker 1: about fifty three man roster guys. I'd say it's probably

2301
01:52:37,320 --> 01:52:40,000
Speaker 1: pushing forty. Yeah, I mean, I agree, because you have

2302
01:52:40,160 --> 01:52:43,320
Speaker 1: all the guys on rookie contracts still unless you trade

2303
01:52:43,360 --> 01:52:45,120
Speaker 1: one of those guys, like, you know, a Chase Winovich

2304
01:52:45,200 --> 01:52:47,560
Speaker 1: for example, all those guys are gonna still be on

2305
01:52:47,680 --> 01:52:53,639
Speaker 1: the team. So, uh, Chase Winovich, Mack Wilson, I would

2306
01:52:53,720 --> 01:52:58,640
Speaker 1: see him. I haven't seen either of what this is.

2307
01:52:58,760 --> 01:53:00,639
Speaker 1: This is a little off off beat question. We're talking

2308
01:53:00,680 --> 01:53:03,120
Speaker 1: about free agents. But um, you know, Miles Bryant was

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Speaker 1: an undrafted rookie when he made the team, so he's

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01:53:05,000 --> 01:53:06,720
Speaker 1: going to be a restricted free agent. But he's he

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01:53:06,800 --> 01:53:08,840
Speaker 1: was undrafted, so you've got a choice to make where

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Speaker 1: first round ten or second round tender? Original round tender? Right?

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01:53:13,520 --> 01:53:15,680
Speaker 1: He was restricted though? Right? Yeah? Was he cut? So

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01:53:15,880 --> 01:53:18,519
Speaker 1: is he Is he restricted? I don't think he is. No,

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01:53:18,800 --> 01:53:20,800
Speaker 1: I don't think he's on that deal anything. If he is,

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Speaker 1: whatever the lowest tender is. I that's an original round tender.

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01:53:24,600 --> 01:53:27,600
Speaker 1: Are not basically nothing? So basically nothing. So I mean

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01:53:27,640 --> 01:53:29,599
Speaker 1: it's just an interesting No one's going to sign him

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01:53:29,600 --> 01:53:31,880
Speaker 1: as a restricted free agent kind of interesting. They might

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01:53:31,920 --> 01:53:33,639
Speaker 1: not even offer him a tender because they can probably

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01:53:33,640 --> 01:53:36,439
Speaker 1: get him from cheaper than that. I agree. Jonathan Jones

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01:53:36,640 --> 01:53:38,639
Speaker 1: be a free agent. That's I think him and Myers,

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Speaker 1: I think are a top of the list for me

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01:53:40,000 --> 01:53:42,519
Speaker 1: of you know, guys who have really contributed. And after that,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't Damien Harris, Nelson, agil Or, Isaiah Wynn, ray,

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Speaker 1: Qua mcmill and, Cody Davis, Juwan Williams, Devin mccordy, Jabrill Peppers,

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Speaker 1: Ferns and Mac Wilson. I mean, those are that's my

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01:53:54,520 --> 01:53:56,240
Speaker 1: quick overview of free agents, but I mean there's not

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01:53:56,240 --> 01:53:58,200
Speaker 1: a lot of guys in there. Those are depending free agents.

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01:53:58,520 --> 01:54:00,559
Speaker 1: I mean, I think the bigger questions are the ones

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01:54:00,600 --> 01:54:05,120
Speaker 1: that haven't talked about between out's contract, you know, the

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01:54:05,200 --> 01:54:08,120
Speaker 1: Hunter Henry types that evn't brought up, or the Trent

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01:54:08,240 --> 01:54:11,360
Speaker 1: Brown types that yeah, even though it's affordable, what do

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01:54:11,439 --> 01:54:13,760
Speaker 1: you want him back? You know those kinds of you

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01:54:13,800 --> 01:54:16,000
Speaker 1: know Kendrick Bourne, Yeah, kenner Bourne is not going to

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01:54:16,040 --> 01:54:17,679
Speaker 1: break the bank, But do you want him back based

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01:54:17,720 --> 01:54:20,160
Speaker 1: on what's what's happened this year? I don't know. I mean,

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01:54:20,200 --> 01:54:22,559
Speaker 1: Parker's an easy out with his contract as well, that's

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01:54:22,600 --> 01:54:24,040
Speaker 1: easy to get out of that last year, or that

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01:54:24,120 --> 01:54:28,000
Speaker 1: one the only guy impending free agent that I look

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01:54:28,080 --> 01:54:30,000
Speaker 1: at that I say I want back at this point

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01:54:30,120 --> 01:54:32,920
Speaker 1: is Jonathan Jones. I think Jakoe like I would take

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01:54:33,000 --> 01:54:35,480
Speaker 1: Jakobe back, Don't get me wrong, But if he hits

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01:54:35,560 --> 01:54:39,480
Speaker 1: unrestricted free agency and someone's offering him fifteen million dollars

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01:54:39,480 --> 01:54:41,600
Speaker 1: a year, then I'm okay. But then why you know,

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01:54:41,720 --> 01:54:45,320
Speaker 1: letting him walk. I would love to have Jonathan Jones back.

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01:54:45,360 --> 01:54:47,480
Speaker 1: I think that no matter where you play him, he's

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01:54:47,480 --> 01:54:49,760
Speaker 1: a good player. I thought Jonathan Jones got a bigger

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01:54:49,840 --> 01:54:52,040
Speaker 1: contract than I thought he would get when the Patriots

2350
01:54:52,080 --> 01:54:56,320
Speaker 1: originally extended him. I wonder if he made himself some

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01:54:56,400 --> 01:54:58,200
Speaker 1: money this year. I think this has been his best

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01:54:58,240 --> 01:55:01,840
Speaker 1: season by far. Yeah. Yeah, I think he did make

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01:55:02,320 --> 01:55:05,320
Speaker 1: himself some money in some respects. But I also think

2354
01:55:05,720 --> 01:55:07,600
Speaker 1: ninety nine percent of teams are still going to view

2355
01:55:07,680 --> 01:55:11,240
Speaker 1: him as a nickel and it was slock corner and

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01:55:11,440 --> 01:55:16,160
Speaker 1: so that that position is not going to get paid

2357
01:55:16,240 --> 01:55:18,080
Speaker 1: like the outside guys. But it might be more than

2358
01:55:18,080 --> 01:55:20,760
Speaker 1: they're willing to give him at his age. Yeah, I

2359
01:55:20,960 --> 01:55:23,560
Speaker 1: would prioritize keeping him. I would. And I know you

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01:55:23,680 --> 01:55:27,200
Speaker 1: drafted Marcus Jones to probably take that slot roll over,

2361
01:55:27,680 --> 01:55:30,880
Speaker 1: but I just think that Jonathan Jones plays you can

2362
01:55:30,920 --> 01:55:32,400
Speaker 1: put him any like, you can put him in safety,

2363
01:55:32,440 --> 01:55:34,280
Speaker 1: and he's going to be a good safety. Like he's

2364
01:55:34,360 --> 01:55:38,440
Speaker 1: that type of guy that truly is just outside inside safety,

2365
01:55:38,600 --> 01:55:40,360
Speaker 1: like you can play him anywhere. They keep showing this

2366
01:55:40,440 --> 01:55:44,280
Speaker 1: play that Jalen hurts, hurts his shoulder, and it's just

2367
01:55:44,400 --> 01:55:47,080
Speaker 1: like it makes me Hurt's grab one more call here

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01:55:47,200 --> 01:55:49,200
Speaker 1: as we wrap things up. Phil in Indiana, Hey Phil,

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01:55:49,200 --> 01:55:56,640
Speaker 1: how are you doing? Philip? Thank you? Just a couple

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01:55:56,640 --> 01:56:00,160
Speaker 1: of quick a couple of quick comments, and again may

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01:56:00,160 --> 01:56:02,040
Speaker 1: have mentioned these earlier in the show. I'm sorry, But

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01:56:03,560 --> 01:56:07,360
Speaker 1: the Patriots had the ball second and seven. They're going

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01:56:07,400 --> 01:56:11,920
Speaker 1: to run twice. Raiders obviously know they're going to run.

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01:56:12,280 --> 01:56:15,920
Speaker 1: And what happens that we've seen all year is jump

2375
01:56:15,960 --> 01:56:18,680
Speaker 1: off side. And now it's second and twelve and they're

2376
01:56:18,720 --> 01:56:21,080
Speaker 1: not going to get the first. And so whether it's

2377
01:56:21,160 --> 01:56:23,480
Speaker 1: jumping off side, delay a game, not getting the place,

2378
01:56:23,600 --> 01:56:25,840
Speaker 1: you know, it's just over and over. And as soon

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01:56:25,880 --> 01:56:27,840
Speaker 1: as they said I thought this games, now we're in

2380
01:56:27,960 --> 01:56:30,960
Speaker 1: trouble again. Yeah, I agree. So that's the type of

2381
01:56:30,960 --> 01:56:32,480
Speaker 1: stuff they just need to clean up. And the second

2382
01:56:32,520 --> 01:56:34,480
Speaker 1: thing is I thought they were Patriots the end of

2383
01:56:34,480 --> 01:56:36,320
Speaker 1: the sure it looks like they had a pretty good

2384
01:56:36,400 --> 01:56:40,240
Speaker 1: draft and they in using this young grow right who's

2385
01:56:40,480 --> 01:56:42,840
Speaker 1: kind of handling the draft now, And I do hope

2386
01:56:42,920 --> 01:56:45,760
Speaker 1: then this is a good example why Belitis should should

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01:56:45,960 --> 01:56:49,040
Speaker 1: turn over the offensive play calling to someone else, maybe

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01:56:49,080 --> 01:56:50,920
Speaker 1: some of the younger guys that are on the on

2389
01:56:51,040 --> 01:56:52,760
Speaker 1: the staff. So thank you, that's all I have to say.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Phil. I agree with this mentality because you get

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01:56:55,760 --> 01:56:57,880
Speaker 1: three yards in first down, second and seven. I think

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01:56:58,480 --> 01:57:00,320
Speaker 1: given the way you ran the ball throughout the day,

2393
01:57:00,400 --> 01:57:02,240
Speaker 1: and I know it's harder to run in that situation

2394
01:57:02,360 --> 01:57:04,640
Speaker 1: than that was the rest of the day. But you

2395
01:57:04,760 --> 01:57:08,560
Speaker 1: could realistically say I have two places to get seven yards.

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01:57:08,600 --> 01:57:10,400
Speaker 1: I could do that. I can run, But when you

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01:57:10,520 --> 01:57:14,840
Speaker 1: make it second and twelve, realistically, you're probably not going

2398
01:57:14,920 --> 01:57:17,520
Speaker 1: to do that. In that scenario where the other teams

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01:57:17,600 --> 01:57:19,800
Speaker 1: just play and run, you're probably not going to get

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01:57:19,840 --> 01:57:24,080
Speaker 1: twelve yards on two carries. So that was a huge penalty. Yeah,

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01:57:24,640 --> 01:57:28,600
Speaker 1: can we You have the the playlists right there so

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01:57:28,720 --> 01:57:31,880
Speaker 1: you can look it up. But can we at least try?

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01:57:33,560 --> 01:57:35,720
Speaker 1: Can we at least try? What do you mean? Can

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01:57:35,800 --> 01:57:40,440
Speaker 1: we try the second and twelve and third and ten?

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01:57:40,720 --> 01:57:42,600
Speaker 1: Can we at least try to run a play that's

2406
01:57:42,600 --> 01:57:44,600
Speaker 1: going to pick up a first down. Okay, So yeah,

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01:57:44,640 --> 01:57:47,280
Speaker 1: they ran the ball three places. The reason why I

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01:57:47,400 --> 01:57:49,280
Speaker 1: asked you to look up the play just quickly is

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01:57:49,360 --> 01:57:52,720
Speaker 1: because at that point there's still at least over two

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01:57:52,800 --> 01:57:55,920
Speaker 1: minutes left in the game, right, and the Raiders have

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01:57:56,000 --> 01:57:59,040
Speaker 1: the two minute warning and they, however many time I

2412
01:57:59,040 --> 01:58:04,080
Speaker 1: outs they had left. So okay, so they took it

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01:58:04,160 --> 01:58:07,920
Speaker 1: over with five ten left Stevenson left guard for three

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01:58:08,000 --> 01:58:10,920
Speaker 1: yards down to four thirty. Oh no, sorry, this is

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01:58:10,960 --> 01:58:15,240
Speaker 1: the wrong one, wrong drive. Yes, it's three to twelve left,

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01:58:15,360 --> 01:58:22,000
Speaker 1: Stevenson middle for three yards. Then they time out. Then

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01:58:22,320 --> 01:58:25,920
Speaker 1: it is three h nine and that's when the penalty

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01:58:25,960 --> 01:58:28,680
Speaker 1: occurs on second and seven. So I think it's reasonable

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01:58:29,000 --> 01:58:30,640
Speaker 1: that you ran the ball on first down. So now

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01:58:30,720 --> 01:58:33,040
Speaker 1: it's second and twelve, and this is where I assume

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01:58:33,120 --> 01:58:36,560
Speaker 1: you want to try to pass. Yes, they clearly wanted

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01:58:36,560 --> 01:58:40,240
Speaker 1: to get rid of that last time out. They prioritize

2423
01:58:40,320 --> 01:58:43,560
Speaker 1: that over throwing the ball. I think that's a very

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01:58:43,600 --> 01:58:48,400
Speaker 1: reasonable second guess. Ninety nine times out of one hundred,

2425
01:58:48,480 --> 01:58:50,240
Speaker 1: I'm in favor of throwing the ball to get a

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01:58:50,320 --> 01:58:52,960
Speaker 1: first down to clinch the game. In that scenario because

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01:58:53,400 --> 01:58:55,320
Speaker 1: I don't care if the other team has timeouts. If

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01:58:55,320 --> 01:58:58,040
Speaker 1: they have enough time, they're gonna have, right. I am

2429
01:58:58,120 --> 01:59:00,720
Speaker 1: not surprised that the Raiders move the ball and we're

2430
01:59:00,720 --> 01:59:02,880
Speaker 1: going to be throwing it into the end zone because

2431
01:59:02,920 --> 01:59:06,560
Speaker 1: that's what teams do rum. So to Evans point, I

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01:59:06,600 --> 01:59:08,960
Speaker 1: would rather throw it. But I gotta tell you, I

2433
01:59:09,160 --> 01:59:13,360
Speaker 1: have absolutely no faith in the passing game. So in

2434
01:59:13,440 --> 01:59:15,400
Speaker 1: this case, I think I would have run it three times.

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01:59:16,360 --> 01:59:18,720
Speaker 1: I'm just saying I would have, and I almost never

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01:59:18,800 --> 01:59:21,520
Speaker 1: would feel that way. If it's isolated in that, like

2437
01:59:21,680 --> 01:59:25,800
Speaker 1: one specific scenario, then I guess maybe you can understand

2438
01:59:25,840 --> 01:59:27,480
Speaker 1: they want them to bring their timeouts. They want to

2439
01:59:27,480 --> 01:59:29,680
Speaker 1: take out as much time on the clock. I just

2440
01:59:30,520 --> 01:59:33,040
Speaker 1: all season long, they get into third and eight plus

2441
01:59:33,120 --> 01:59:35,760
Speaker 1: and they give up. They do they give up. They

2442
01:59:35,840 --> 01:59:38,400
Speaker 1: don't even try like that in the bootleg was not

2443
01:59:38,480 --> 01:59:40,320
Speaker 1: even trying, Like you weren't going to get it that

2444
01:59:40,920 --> 01:59:44,600
Speaker 1: so you're not even trying, Like the bootleg call is inexplicable.

2445
01:59:45,080 --> 01:59:47,600
Speaker 1: It's like I would rather have thrown a bomb and

2446
01:59:48,400 --> 01:59:51,320
Speaker 1: then run a bootleg likery about a reverse. You know,

2447
01:59:51,520 --> 01:59:53,160
Speaker 1: how about like if you want to if you want

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01:59:53,200 --> 01:59:56,760
Speaker 1: to have the bootleg action to it. Then run Marcus

2449
01:59:56,840 --> 01:59:58,680
Speaker 1: Jones in the other direction and flip it to them,

2450
01:59:58,720 --> 02:00:00,720
Speaker 1: and then you have your bootleg action. He's too fast,

2451
02:00:00,920 --> 02:00:02,840
Speaker 1: too fast, all right, Well, we gotta wrap it up here, guys.

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02:00:02,880 --> 02:00:04,480
Speaker 1: I'm sure we could go on all day about this game,

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02:00:04,480 --> 02:00:07,200
Speaker 1: but we will be back tomorrow for another two hours.

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