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Speaker 4: But that's okay. We're good. We're good.

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Speaker 5: Also, we're children, so that doesn't help at all.

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Speaker 2: Oh, you're right, that's what I mean. That's what I mean.

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Speaker 2: As always, Jenkus and Jones hosted by Dragonfly Jones aka Tyler.

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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody have a gain with Jet thro Jenkins aka John.

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Speaker 2: Was aunt Lobas And we're recording in the middle of

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Speaker 2: a fucking rainstorm.

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Speaker 3: Wait wait, wait, motherfucking motherfucking fucking sorry.

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Speaker 2: Mother fucking man, mother fucking mind to deprive you guys.

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Speaker 5: That sounds so nasty the g on that is ugly,

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Speaker 4: Uh, we are the fucking We.

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Speaker 2: Are recording in the middle of a rainstorm in southern California,

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Speaker 2: and I call it a rainstorm, and I felt comfortable

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Speaker 2: doing that because my house is currently under a flood advisory.

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Speaker 2: But Jonathan l to jet throw Jenkins Nichols from the Country.

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Speaker 3: Really looks right down from Saint Louis. You feel me,

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Speaker 3: Come on, man, if it's if it, dude, it was,

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Speaker 3: it's raining. It's raining, not a lick of thunder. No

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Speaker 3: lightning scene anywhere.

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Speaker 2: Bro.

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Speaker 5: You feel that a thunderstorm study, it's a ritual.

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Speaker 4: Bro.

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Speaker 3: We know no, no, we were we were. We were outside,

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Speaker 3: me and my baby girl watching the rain. You don't

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Speaker 3: watch storms, okay, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: You ain't know You know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: Your niggas getting paid to watch storms, putting their life

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Speaker 3: in jeopardy.

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Speaker 1: Nigga, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: I'm not hot there with my baby just sitting there

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Speaker 3: watching the rain pitter patter. I'm not gonna let you

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Speaker 3: call that a storm man. And maybe I'm bougie. I

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Speaker 3: think that's you being bougie, but that may be me.

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Speaker 4: Who's being bogie. Tyler.

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Speaker 1: You know you're a native Long Beach person. You know

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Speaker 1: you grew up only seeing rain twice a year, so

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Speaker 1: I feel like your perspective is skewed. On this ship,

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Speaker 1: think that it probably is a storm to you. It's

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Speaker 1: probably any time it rains as a storm, it's a

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Speaker 2: But we shut the whole city down, man, the whole

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Speaker 2: fucking west side along the floods.

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Speaker 1: If we have inch water, that's wow. Yeah, y'all. Infrastructure

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Speaker 1: is not built for that shit. Like I remember when

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Speaker 1: it was raining like a few months back and Lax

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Speaker 2: It has been an exceptionally rainy season in southern California,

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Speaker 2: which I think John would acknowledge. It's like it's like

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Speaker 5: Feet of snow Jesus Christ.

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Speaker 2: Like everywhere across the whole mountains, and the sun is

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Speaker 2: go somewhere. I don't know, all right, I guess I'm

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Speaker 2: just living the soft life of a long congratulation.

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Speaker 5: So congratulations, I'm happy for you.

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Speaker 2: Thanks brother, Thanks, thanks my brother.

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Speaker 4: All right, ladies and gentlemen, we got him.

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Speaker 2: The two fishermen who were using lead weights to weigh

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Speaker 2: contests have pled guilty to a felony charge of and

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Speaker 2: I want you to listen to this very closely, a

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Speaker 4: I thought it had to be more complicated than just cheating.

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Speaker 4: You can't get charged.

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Speaker 1: With cheating, got convicted for cheating, like, yeah, they played

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Speaker 1: guilty too.

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Speaker 4: Hell of aility of cheating?

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I mean once the consequence, shit, it

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Speaker 1: gotta be off. It got to like Mike said, it's

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Speaker 1: a feling like they were making tens and of the

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Speaker 1: albums off this ship.

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Speaker 2: So they're sentencing date because there may actually be jail

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Speaker 2: time associated with it, will be coming in May. But

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Speaker 2: so far their fishing license has been suspended for three years,

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Speaker 2: and they've had to return the one hundred thousand dollars

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Speaker 2: boat that they won by cheating.

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, look y'all know I'm not a rule stickler

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Speaker 1: motherfucker like you know. I'm all for motherfuckers like you know,

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Speaker 1: getting over on big business and shit. But you can't

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Speaker 1: cheat the fishing homies like this, Bro. The swift hand

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Speaker 1: of justice had to come down on you. You cannot do

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Speaker 1: the fishing bros like this dog. This is what they've

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Speaker 1: been looking forward to for fucking months.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: They have this whole Saturday map out. They out there,

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Speaker 1: you know, just want to do some competitive fishing, kickback

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Speaker 1: a little. And you out here cheating, Bro, You are

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Speaker 1: cheating the game, and you are cheating the spirit of

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Speaker 1: fishing because fishing is not supposed to be fulling. This

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Speaker 1: bull fish is supposed to be where you go and

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Speaker 1: all the bullshit goes out the window. You know what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying. It's supposed to be an escape from all

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Speaker 1: the bullshit. And they brought the bullshit to the sanctuary

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Speaker 1: of fishing. And I'm not fucking with it.

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Speaker 4: Bro.

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Speaker 5: If I invite you to come fishing with me, nigga,

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Speaker 5: I would.

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Speaker 1: Die for you, flat out.

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Speaker 3: You feel what I'm saying, No, no like fishing, bro.

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Speaker 3: If I ask you to come out there and not

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Speaker 3: say nothing with me for like some hours.

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Speaker 1: Nigga, you can't scare the fish, nigg You know what

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Speaker 3: I genuinely just enjoy your fucking company. They ruined the

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Speaker 3: sanctity to that. There is a certain level of honor

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Speaker 3: that comes with fishing, my nigga, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: And I know they some country motherfuckers.

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Speaker 3: What all the shit the way I heard people talking

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Speaker 3: out there, they know better, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: So goddamn right, even if they created a law which

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Speaker 3: was breaking the law of cheating, they deserved that, Nigga,

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Speaker 3: That Looney Tunes ass motherfucking law they broke.

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Speaker 1: Goddamn right, Nigga, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: I just want to know, like, what is they need cocaine?

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Speaker 3: Give them the same nigga that get caught with some

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Speaker 3: with some powder with that girl on them, Give them

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Speaker 3: the same shit that's worse to me, Nigga.

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Speaker 6: You feel me, girl like heart a little that girl

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Speaker 6: like herd. You know, I ain't never hurt nothing before,

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Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying. I know a lot of

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Speaker 6: functioning folks on that girl, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 6: But what they did right there was dastard, get them.

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Speaker 4: Where's your crowd?

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Speaker 1: Was so eloquently stated, these.

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Speaker 3: Cocaines for fun, Nigga, ain't no fun and cheating you know,

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Speaker 3: fish and folk?

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Speaker 4: That's crazy.

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Speaker 2: I want to know what the pettiest thing you could

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Speaker 2: get convicted of cheating like.

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Speaker 4: Would be over? Is it the fish thing?

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Speaker 2: Or could I take fucking h Madden sixty four to court?

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Speaker 2: Because I think Madden ninety eight to court for cheating,

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Like when the game was

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Speaker 2: fucking cheating, you like, it.

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Speaker 1: Gotta be some money. If that gotta be money on

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Speaker 1: the line, I figured, if you know, for the court

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Speaker 1: to hear that ship.

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Speaker 7: Out poker game though, like your friends and you can

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Speaker 7: probably you probably you can probably catch a charge for

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Speaker 7: a poker game, I would think, But.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if that would kind of be like

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Speaker 1: a legal game. I think if I feel like it

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Speaker 1: would have to be something sanctioned with a monetary prize

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Speaker 4: You know, you'd be a.

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Speaker 2: Real asshole to call the cops on your friend for cheating.

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Speaker 2: You a poker too, You just gotta beat him up.

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Speaker 4: You can't, you got all the cops.

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Speaker 1: I gotta squaw that ship out Bro, we got ways

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Speaker 1: and fish.

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Speaker 2: Bro, Come on, all right, you guys want them to

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Speaker 2: you guys want him under the prison jail probably.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, those people were trumpers and we I was

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Speaker 3: firmly on their hot.

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Speaker 1: The one thing that only cuts together it is cheating

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Speaker 1: while fishing.

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Speaker 6: Niggas, Get the funk out of here, bro, crazy The

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Speaker 6: niggas was one Bro.

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Speaker 3: Maybe they was on cocaine when I was doing it,

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Speaker 3: So maybe, like you gotta be on something to start on.

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Speaker 4: Lead weights into a dead fish's mouth.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna get can get away with that dog, you

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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: Come on, man, The part honestly the weights are bad.

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Speaker 2: But the part where they were shoving fish filets into

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Speaker 2: fucking fish.

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Speaker 5: Really fish into fish, that sucks.

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Speaker 3: I think that's the part of discussing the more then

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Speaker 3: actual lead fish and fish hole phobia and them somehow

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Speaker 3: was it acted right?

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Speaker 2: They're like fish, this is wrong because there's a respect

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Speaker 2: between fishermen and fish. And it's like you killed Bro

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Speaker 2: and then you made him deep throat another one of him.

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Speaker 4: Like all right, God, we do.

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Speaker 2: Have an update to the long running squirrel versus rat?

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Speaker 2: Which animal is more athletic debate on the Genus and

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Speaker 4: Is that a SoundCloud? That's SoundCloud, right, the original one?

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Speaker 2: One of the stupidest and funniest and happiest things that

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Speaker 2: But someone's updated us. Uh, there's a video going around.

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Speaker 2: I know, Tyler and I both retweeted it of a

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Speaker 1: He was quick on his feet too. Bro, that ladder

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Speaker 4: Bro, does this move the needle? Did we did?

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Speaker 2: We get to see a little glimpse of the square

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Speaker 1: I feel like, I don't know if this is new evidence,

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Speaker 8: The real world there though, as a nigga that used

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Speaker 5: To me a little bit.

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Speaker 3: I think, you know, when it comes to the squirrels,

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Speaker 5: I think we've all admitted that squirrels are more naturally athletic.

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Speaker 1: But putting him.

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Speaker 1: Who's the most squirrely NBA player? I think it's probably

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Speaker 5: That's about I think, but I think Shay has rat tendencies.

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Speaker 3: We broke, you know, because he doesn't. It's not it's

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Speaker 4: He doesn't.

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Speaker 5: He's explosive, and we've talked about it before.

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Speaker 3: it was it was it a hybrid hybrid athlete? Yup,

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Speaker 4: You say he's a squat out here.

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Speaker 3: And maybe maybe man, maybe maybe maybe maybe all.

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Speaker 1: Maybe maybe the greatest athletes are hybrid.

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Speaker 5: Maybe there's something he said there. I think we can

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Speaker 2: You know, like we all love basketball, but I think

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Speaker 4: With people that are two hundred fifty feet tall? Right?

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Speaker 2: Like that that squirrel's desire for the game because here

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Speaker 4: And he was fearless out there. He hopped in like,

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Speaker 5: Big respect, big respect. The squirrels have my respect now

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Speaker 1: I got that dog.

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Speaker 5: We're getting there, squirrels.

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Speaker 3: I still won't forget the squirrel that died, the guy

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Speaker 5: And that agent can speak to as well, because y'all

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Speaker 4: Hard I'm well, I'm well aware. I've seen it happen.

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Speaker 4: It's a tragic and hilarious thing.

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Speaker 3: It's like I ain't hit the brakes, like, bro, what

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Speaker 3: you want to do? And he just I don't know, keeling.

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Speaker 5: Over right front of the game, over right right.

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Speaker 3: Imagine the squirrel in the clutch moment, Dug, that's that's

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Speaker 4: Tough scene. Also tough scene.

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Speaker 2: Baltimore Ravens fans woke up earlier this week, and you

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Speaker 4: Just got on Twitter and was like, hey man, I

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Speaker 2: I'm letting y'all know from me on my Twitter, where

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Speaker 4: I have to think.

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Speaker 4: Out of here.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it was a really blind side of

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Speaker 1: We all knew Lamar wasn't happy there, you know what

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Speaker 1: it's it's this all experience with not having an agent

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Speaker 1: just like, why do you want to be the one

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Speaker 4: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: But but I mean, I think Lamar's whole angles bro,

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Speaker 1: ain't no talking. I want to Shawn money, and don't

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Speaker 3: What what are the Ravens looking for? I know they

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Speaker 5: He said he didn't do that.

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Speaker 3: how many quarterbacks in the league are better than him?

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Speaker 3: But you know what I mean, Like it's hard to

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Speaker 3: You feel me? So like what are they trying to?

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Speaker 3: What are they doing with this? I don't understand I think.

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Speaker 2: That the challenge for the NFL, because they do have

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Speaker 2: But is once you start allocating forty percent or whatever

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Speaker 4: Well fucking give me the money.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, the added context of it is that situation.

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Speaker 5: Fucking way, right right.

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Speaker 2: And so you mix that in with the obviously the

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Speaker 2: You know, it's sort of a perfect storm of shit

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Speaker 4: You know. So I don't know, I don't.

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Speaker 2: Know where I don't know what the Ravens want, And

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Speaker 4: That's what I worry about for him.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, they franchise tagged them, so I think it's

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Speaker 1: on Okay, Lamar, are you going to play this season?

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Speaker 1: Are you going to get better on yourself again? Sit

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Speaker 1: I honestly wouldn't.

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Speaker 2: But I think if his if his salary demand, particularly

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Speaker 9: That's what sometimes Sometimes you get so deep in the

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Speaker 1: So I think we might get to that.

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Speaker 3: But that's where an agent comes into play too, though,

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Speaker 5: The shit to you.

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Speaker 4: Sol.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know, man, but it sucks. Yeah, it sucks.

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Speaker 5: It sucks, all right.

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Speaker 2: Another thing that sucks. The NFL did not renew the

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Speaker 2: he was one of the reporters from NFL Network who

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Speaker 2: at Roger Goodell's annual public press conference would ask him

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Speaker 2: about the lack of diversity and other black faces at

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Speaker 2: NFL network. I think this is sort of fitting timing

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Speaker 2: for us. We've got to Sean Reid on this Saturday

447
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Speaker 2: is James and Jones and Friends talking about his podcast

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Speaker 2: about the NFL and race and the race problem in

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Speaker 2: the NFL.

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Speaker 4: He tweeted today, I don't.

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Speaker 2: Know how this issue ever gets better if the NFL

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Speaker 2: continues to pretend it doesn't.

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Speaker 4: Have a race problem.

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Speaker 2: So, Tyler, what do you think of the news about

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Speaker 2: Jim Trotter? And Yeah, I mean it's like Tashawn. We're

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Speaker 2: all big fans of his podcast hereies, but he pretty

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Speaker 2: much nailed it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I mean, for one, first, first off,

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Speaker 1: want to say I really got a tune into that

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Speaker 1: to Shawn episode that we got coming to Saturday. It

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Speaker 1: was amazing. Got to peep his podcast serious too, and

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Speaker 1: we'll be plugging that as well. You know, I just

463
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Speaker 1: want to commend Jim Trotter because for him to hop

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Speaker 1: out there so publicly challenged the commissioner when he knew

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Speaker 1: he was in a negotiation season that took balls, you know,

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Speaker 1: and it unfortunately ended this way for him, which is

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Speaker 1: a fucking travesty, which I don't think is a coincidence.

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Speaker 1: But but you know, it goes back to you know

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Speaker 1: what Sshawn said about how if if we're not going

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Speaker 1: to address these race issues, you know, these disparities in

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Speaker 1: such an NFL, We're never going to make progress here

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Speaker 1: and for you too to just you know, not renew

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Speaker 1: the contract of you know, the you know, black reporter

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Speaker 1: for your for your league. It just it just speaks violues,

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Speaker 1: but it doesn't tell us anything we didn't already know.

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Speaker 3: I think they're actually doing the opposite, you know, I mean,

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Speaker 3: addressing it.

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Speaker 1: They're trying to try to push like one of the

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Speaker 1: most vocal mouthpieces of it now exactly exactly.

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Speaker 5: It's just such a wow.

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Speaker 3: It's just I mean, this is wild. Tom has to

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Speaker 5: It's crazy to me.

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Speaker 2: com slash RG. All right, let's talk about we're recording.

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Speaker 2: Obviously we're live right now. On when day Draymond Green

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Speaker 2: had a fucking vintage frame it put.

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Speaker 4: It on the wall. Make sure dis shit.

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Speaker 2: Yeah right, yeah, absolutely vintage Draymond game against the Pelicans

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Speaker 2: last night. You know, Jackson said it, and obviously Jackson

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Speaker 2: produces Draymond show. So we've got a massive conflict of

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Speaker 2: interest on Jackson's opinion.

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Speaker 4: But he was right.

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Speaker 2: It was just it was him pushing all the buttons

534
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Speaker 2: that he has to push, and all of them working

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Speaker 2: to help turn the Warriors around in a game that

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Speaker 2: was basically potentially a play in preview, potentially what's gonna

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Speaker 2: help give someone the six seed and avoid the plane.

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Speaker 2: But it's fun watching Draymond v.

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Speaker 4: Full Draymond.

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Speaker 1: That was an experience though. We got We got everything

541
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Speaker 1: from everything Draymond. We got from Draymond that motherfucking game.

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Speaker 1: We had the motherfucking mix up where you know, he

543
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Speaker 1: did the antagonizing Judo Lake tackle shit when they were

544
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Speaker 1: trying to get up. We had the mother him talking

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Speaker 1: shit to CJ McCullum telling him he wasn't gonna do

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Speaker 1: shit like, we had the him talking shit after the game, like,

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Speaker 1: don't nobody do this shit like me? Motherfucker's talk when

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Speaker 1: they up, but now when they're down twenty, like just everything, bro.

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Speaker 2: He he also was so adamant, I mean he correctly,

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Speaker 2: he was right to be adamant that the coaches should

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Speaker 2: have called for a challenge on a charge call on

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Speaker 2: him late in the game.

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Speaker 4: According to the Homie.

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Speaker 2: Market Marcus Thompson, he then at the next time out

555
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Speaker 2: was cussing the coaches out.

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Speaker 3: He got that experience. I think what was what was

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Speaker 3: his stat line? Like eight eight points twelve assists. Like

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Speaker 3: he's the only person that affects the game enough with

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Speaker 3: eight points and twelve assists where Chris.

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Speaker 5: Haynes interviewing after the game, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: He's also a great interview that that helps a lot too.

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Speaker 1: He's a great interview for interview for sure. But I mean,

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Speaker 1: like eight, eight points twelve assists, You're not really going

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Speaker 1: to interview most people with that stat line, you know

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Speaker 1: what I mean. But he affects the game in that way.

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Speaker 3: And he's one of the few people that is when

567
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Speaker 3: he's mad, he plays better, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: Like there's like three people in the league that are

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Speaker 3: angry and they can still play good, you know what

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Speaker 3: I mean. Partly like I said before, the Potts, because

571
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Speaker 3: he's his game is predicated on you know, like it's

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Speaker 3: not it's not predicated on you know, Vaness, you know

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Speaker 3: what I mean.

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Speaker 5: But dog, yeah, and and.

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Speaker 1: And he's one of the rare shit talkers who keeps

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Speaker 1: coming out on top like a motherfucker like Pat bab

577
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Speaker 1: has been on eight teams the last three seasons. Why

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Speaker 1: mother fucking Draymond has won like four of the last

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Speaker 1: fucking eight championships, you know, what I mean so.

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Speaker 4: Totally differently, Yeah, he did. He did.

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Speaker 2: He did catch an l when he was talking ship

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Speaker 2: and then I don't even remember who was.

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Speaker 4: But he was like, I think taking you out of

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Speaker 4: the game.

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Speaker 5: He was.

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Speaker 4: So fist.

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Speaker 3: That's life though, that's life though, even while winning, you're

588
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Speaker 3: gonna take it.

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Speaker 4: But he also win.

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Speaker 1: Called the bitch he called b I aj c J mccllums.

591
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:48,000
Speaker 1: Mcum has been getting called him, has been getting harassed

592
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Speaker 1: by this four yor squad since KD told that man

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Speaker 1: in two thousand and seventeen eighteen, don't worry about what's

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Speaker 1: going on at the top.

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Speaker 4: You stay with you.

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Speaker 1: And now you got Dreypon Green telling you you ain't

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Speaker 1: gonna do shit.

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Speaker 2: That's all Miles Brown Brown on Twitter in front of

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Speaker 2: the show uh tweeted, imagine a man consistently scared to

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Speaker 2: shoot a basketball calling you a bitch to your face.

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Speaker 4: No one gets suspended.

602
00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:16,800
Speaker 2: Longer than twenty minutes anymore, and the fine for a

603
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:19,119
Speaker 2: fight is literally equivalent to a parking ticket.

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Speaker 4: Beat his ass.

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Speaker 5: I'm sorry, bro, as though yeah I don't.

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Speaker 1: I don't think got that beating that man ass dog

607
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Speaker 1: he made the righteous that is for sure a rat

608
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Speaker 1: verse squirrel fight, like like I gave. I gave rats

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Speaker 1: the credit maving hands like you and a rat and

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Speaker 1: a squirrel in the octagon, She's gonna get real ugly

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Speaker 1: for the squirrel. And that is for sure a rat

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Speaker 1: squirrel matchup right there.

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Speaker 3: Though, you don't want to get caught a bitch by

614
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Speaker 3: a nigga that square scared to shoot the ball and

615
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Speaker 3: then him turn you into a bitch.

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Speaker 10: And treat you like one, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 10: Like get the double down bitch special called you a

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Speaker 10: bit and called you a bitch while I'll beat your ass, right,

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Speaker 10: I mean, we.

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Speaker 3: Talked about that, that confidence back in the day were

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Speaker 3: you know, dude, smash your chicken, you fight and get

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Speaker 3: whooped by that nigga.

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Speaker 4: You know what I mean.

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00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:07,880
Speaker 1: That it's kind of that ilk, you know what I mean.

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00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 1: It got that stitch to it, you know.

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00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:09,639
Speaker 5: What I mean?

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Speaker 2: That was another Digginson Jones classic, because I believe you

628
00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:16,359
Speaker 2: described the specific visual of getting beaten up by a

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Speaker 2: naked man.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: They talk about them damn penguins.

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Speaker 6: Yeah right, yeah, ship.

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Speaker 1: Okay, think about I think about those penguins more than

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Speaker 1: I should.

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Speaker 3: Bro he got his eye gouged out Tyler that win

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00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 3: Hold to follow up on the penguins.

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Speaker 4: Bro, how long?

638
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:41,200
Speaker 3: How long do those penguins live? They probably still living

639
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 3: for sure. They probably another fifteen years old. And he

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Speaker 3: got to live with that one. The dude that lost

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Speaker 3: the eye. Mind to be living because it's cold out

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Speaker 3: there in the wild.

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Speaker 4: All your eyes.

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00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:53,200
Speaker 1: You ain't got your peripheral go du you know what

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00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 1: I mean?

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Speaker 4: She crazy?

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00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 2: He's uh, he's inside of an orcar whale. At this point,

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Speaker 2: I'm googling life expectancy fifteen to twenty years.

649
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a good little life expectancy, you

650
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Speaker 3: know what I mean for what they're doing over there.

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00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:10,119
Speaker 1: I don't think you want to live more than twenty years.

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Speaker 5: That weather weather right getting getting smoty.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, go ahead, Magellantic penguins which are like so you know,

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Speaker 2: because there's like tropical penguins. They lived the longest they

655
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Speaker 2: lived at thirty years.

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Speaker 1: South American ones.

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Speaker 4: Yeah all right.

658
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Speaker 2: Uh, I want to talk about someone tweeted before social media,

659
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:30,480
Speaker 2: what did people do to get attention?

660
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:35,919
Speaker 4: And at fine godmother quote tweeted and said tell people that.

661
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Speaker 2: Great great grandma was full blooded Cherokee.

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Speaker 1: That was the thing when we was going out motherfucking

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Speaker 1: state saying they had some goddamn Indian and their family

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Speaker 1: dog always Cherokee, always we.

665
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,200
Speaker 5: I got something to say, but say it.

666
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:58,720
Speaker 1: No, I'm not going to say it. I'm not gonna

667
00:28:58,800 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 1: say it.

668
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:01,880
Speaker 4: My bye, Nah, I.

669
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 1: Made a fool of myself.

670
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 3: No, no, bro, I'm not gonna say it.

671
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:12,960
Speaker 1: But there's some proof I'll say that.

672
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 3: To my statement, but I'm not gonna know. We'll talk

673
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 3: about it in the group chat. We'll keep that.

674
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 2: That's a that's a your mom listens to the podcast

675
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:25,720
Speaker 2: self deletion does what that is?

676
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 4: I respect that.

677
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 2: The number of arguments that friends of mine tried to

678
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 2: end with that about like that they have an intuition

679
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 2: because one of their family members was full blood of

680
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:42,760
Speaker 2: Cherokee is like fuck, It's like there's no comeback to

681
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 2: I did have a comeback to.

682
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 5: It, but I believed everything though I.

683
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 4: Don't know I had to. I just had to bring

684
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 4: that tweet up. I thought that was the fucking funniestue.

685
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 11: There were some bangers in there though, to look at

686
00:29:55,840 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 11: like at the uh the quote tweets like there are

687
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 11: some I forget I mean anyway, but there were some

688
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 11: bangers in there.

689
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 4: That was three Okay.

690
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 2: Someone asked this question on Twitter like quite some time ago,

691
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:13,680
Speaker 2: and I've been thinking about it a lot since then.

692
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 2: And the question is, why do we still, even though

693
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 2: no one has door knockers anymore, why do we still

694
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 2: raise our hands to knock on doors?

695
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 4: Because the motion of.

696
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 2: Doing that is a it's a holdover from knocking, like

697
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,760
Speaker 2: taking the door knocker and knocking it on the door.

698
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:37,920
Speaker 2: There's no reason to put your hand up by your

699
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:41,400
Speaker 2: eyeball to knock on a door except that that is

700
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 2: what was like culturally handed down from when door knockers existed.

701
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:47,240
Speaker 1: But I think you get more.

702
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 3: You get more like like power to knock on the door.

703
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 5: Like it's honest, like are you going to knock like this?

704
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:58,080
Speaker 2: You could do it, you could, I mean you could

705
00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 2: do it at literally any height, but you do it

706
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 2: at that height because of the door, because like that's

707
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 2: what your dad did and his dad and his dad

708
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:06,960
Speaker 2: because of doorknockers.

709
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 3: That was the theory you're saying, we've been socialized to

710
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 3: believe we're supposed to knock on doors in that Yes,

711
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 3: is that what you're telling me?

712
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:14,440
Speaker 4: Yes?

713
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 5: I don't think that's true.

714
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 2: But what, like, is there any other things that you

715
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 2: do where you put your hand that high up in there.

716
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 5: It's not comfortable any other way.

717
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 4: It's not comfortable because it's not what you do.

718
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 3: This right here is comfortable to you, Like physically, it

719
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 3: just doesn't feel comfortable, you know what I mean?

720
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 1: Like this is just more comfortable.

721
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 4: Why not this.

722
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 3: Because that's silly and you don't like doing doing doing

723
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 3: it and you're not gonna get the type of it's

724
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 3: not gonna be loud enough. You don't get enough power

725
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 3: that way, bro, you.

726
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 4: Know what I mean.

727
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 3: I don't think you need to knock on a door

728
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:46,960
Speaker 3: like a fucking police and close.

729
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, dude, this type of shit.

730
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 1: But this right here, it just seems more comfortable.

731
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 5: I don't I don't know, man, I don't know.

732
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 3: We need to look into that. Is there is there

733
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 3: research behind it. Let's let let's be the people that

734
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:04,239
Speaker 3: do the reach. We're gonna do a creative podcast. I'm

735
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 3: gonna go do it everything. We're gonna interview people all

736
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 3: of that, do a podcast.

737
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 1: On just why we knock on the door that way?

738
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like what the door knock might

739
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 1: have been placed there because that's how we just knocked,

740
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 1: Like that might have been the place that might have

741
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 1: came after our knocking motion.

742
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 3: Man, maybe doorknockers were created after the knocking. That makes

743
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 3: a lot of sense to me too, because it's more

744
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 3: natural to knock that way. So let's just put the

745
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 3: door knocker where people naturally knock.

746
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 4: But even, like, why do we knock on doors as

747
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:38,479
Speaker 4: opposed to keep them? Like?

748
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 1: That's it's all in, it's all in the angles, right, Like,

749
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:45,480
Speaker 1: you can't knock like this, you gotta have some You

750
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 1: gotta be at a ninety degrees with it.

751
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 4: You feel me?

752
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 1: Do you feel me talking about how to knock on door?

753
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 5: No?

754
00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 3: No, it's not comfortable that Look you looked awkward doing

755
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 3: but I.

756
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 2: Look awkward doing it because that's how you've been seeing

757
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 2: people knock on.

758
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 3: Doors, awkward doing it because you look awkward doing it.

759
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 3: It's not because no, bro, you can do things differently

760
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 3: and not look awkward. You look, that's an awkward way

761
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 3: of knocking on the door. If you saw a nigga

762
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 3: knocking on the door like that.

763
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 2: But that's what I grew up in a society where

764
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 2: everyone knocks on doors like this.

765
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:21,480
Speaker 4: But I'm not every.

766
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 3: No, bro, There's people that do things differently that don't

767
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:27,400
Speaker 3: look weird, that looks weird because it is weird, Mike,

768
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 3: you know what I mean.

769
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 2: You know, I'm gonna I'm gonna do I'm gonna do

770
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 2: a deep dive on this. It appears that were invented

771
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 2: in ancient Greece, but in other ancient societies people did

772
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 2: not knock on doors like that.

773
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:46,480
Speaker 1: But did they just go to the door and yell

774
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 1: or some shit?

775
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 4: Yeah? Really?

776
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 1: Did they?

777
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 5: Were there actual like what were the doors made out of?

778
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:57,240
Speaker 5: Like whether wooden doors were.

779
00:33:57,680 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 4: Wooden doors with a bronze knocker on?

780
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 3: No, you said, I'm saying prior to that, another in

781
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:05,440
Speaker 3: other in others, prior to that, you were saying that

782
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 3: people didn't knock on doors, Like you're not knocking on

783
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 3: a something that doesn't make a repporate sound throughout the house,

784
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:13,360
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like, if it's a material

785
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:15,239
Speaker 3: that's not gonna do that, you're not gonna knock on it.

786
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:18,440
Speaker 1: You also also gotta remember, like there was nothing, no

787
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:21,280
Speaker 1: fucking sounds in your house back in fucking two thousand.

788
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:23,320
Speaker 1: You see it wasn't a TV going. There wasn't a

789
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:25,760
Speaker 1: fucking refrigerator. Humma, Like, you can probably just walk to somebody's.

790
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:29,320
Speaker 1: They like, Yo, you're in there, dog. You heard that

791
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:33,320
Speaker 1: nigga half a mile right, slippy it.

792
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 4: I swear that.

793
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:37,759
Speaker 1: The nigga was galloping on a horse up to your shit.

794
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:41,360
Speaker 1: You heard that motherfucker? You know some hooves come on.

795
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:41,920
Speaker 4: Gee.

796
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 2: It didn't make me think though, this is like one

797
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 2: of the Shar's pet things that she always keeps an

798
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 2: eye out for. Is the like technological holdovers, Like how

799
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 2: like the save icon is still a floppy disc even

800
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:56,400
Speaker 2: though like our kids that all they recognized the floppy

801
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:58,440
Speaker 2: disc as is to say icon. They have no idea

802
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:01,400
Speaker 2: that anything like that existed. So it's like a ghost

803
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:04,839
Speaker 2: of something that technology that used to exist. We still

804
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,400
Speaker 2: have doorknockers obviously, but I don't know. I think that's

805
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 2: I'm fascinated by that. Similarly, they think, like when the

806
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 2: iTunes logo is a CD, that's just what Vinny thought

807
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 2: that was because he never.

808
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 5: Knock on doors.

809
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 3: I just I think I'll kind of text them outside.

810
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:23,839
Speaker 3: I mean, if they don't respond to the text, I'm

811
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:25,719
Speaker 3: knock on the door. But that's like the knocking on

812
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 3: doors now is the last resort?

813
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 2: Bro?

814
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 5: Are we losing everything? You know what I'm saying. I'm outside,

815
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:32,359
Speaker 5: I'm pulling up.

816
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, Like the.

817
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 2: Last time I like knocked on someone's door, Bro, you.

818
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 5: Know what I'm saying, Like, it's not it's not a

819
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:39,759
Speaker 5: common thing.

820
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, I don't brought up, I don't

821
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:46,759
Speaker 1: go I don't go anywhere unannounced. Usually I'm texting like

822
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 1: you know, I'm pulling up and you just got a

823
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 1: little like I knock with my fingers because I know

824
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:54,759
Speaker 1: you're waiting to know, right right, right right if I knocking.

825
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 12: The last time I knocked the door on was actually

826
00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:01,399
Speaker 12: I think was that John's Probably makes it because because

827
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 12: John was not home, but I was delivering Pizel's from Mike.

828
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:08,239
Speaker 12: Don't have rob as fall had to knock on the door.

829
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:12,279
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, you felt awkward as fun about it too. Mary.

830
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 3: You probably had to like he probably started here and

831
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:17,439
Speaker 3: was like, no, it's not Oh this is how you knocking.

832
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:19,359
Speaker 12: On the record, I actually agree with Mike and this one.

833
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 5: Did you do we've been socialized?

834
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 10: No?

835
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 12: I just think that that the socializing aspect is really

836
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:25,359
Speaker 12: like why is it hard?

837
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 4: Why don't we just tap the bottom of the door

838
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 4: with our feet? You know what I mean?

839
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:31,120
Speaker 3: Like like why is it this specific movie that feels

840
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 3: a little disrespectful?

841
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:34,399
Speaker 12: But like when you walk up to the door, your

842
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:37,839
Speaker 12: hands are down by your your hands right, you just

843
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:39,839
Speaker 12: reach right, You don't have to raise your arm up,

844
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:41,359
Speaker 12: just reach down there and not.

845
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 4: You could just you could just do your wrist in

846
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 4: the opposite direction.

847
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 12: It's the same knowing looks you would look silly yet,

848
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 12: but only because.

849
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:49,759
Speaker 3: I don't know if that gets I don't know if

850
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:51,399
Speaker 3: this is going to get the same amount of sound

851
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:51,799
Speaker 3: as this.

852
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:54,920
Speaker 12: No, I would still do the front part of the knuckle,

853
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 12: the same part of the knuckle that you knock on,

854
00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:57,879
Speaker 12: just just with your hand.

855
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:01,239
Speaker 2: Oh you're saying, if you turn it around, knock like this,

856
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:05,399
Speaker 2: I'm yes, exactly Like but this is my but John,

857
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 2: this is my point. And I remember being in elementary

858
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:10,360
Speaker 2: school and thinking what if Cookie Monster was green?

859
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 4: Right?

860
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 2: And I remember thinking like, oh, that would be weird

861
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 2: as fuck is cookie Monster is blue? And I was like,

862
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:17,240
Speaker 2: but the only reason I think cookie Monster is blue

863
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:18,399
Speaker 2: is because I've seen him be blue.

864
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 4: My entire life, right.

865
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 5: But that does make your point. But I don't think

866
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:22,920
Speaker 5: this makes it.

867
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 2: But if you grew up and it's in ancient Greece,

868
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:27,919
Speaker 2: they had put the door knocker on the bottom part

869
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:30,320
Speaker 2: of the doorknob because they could only make one piece

870
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 2: of bronze or some ship would that not culturally have

871
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:34,920
Speaker 2: been handed down for two thousand years.

872
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:36,359
Speaker 5: And that's where we knock on the door.

873
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:39,359
Speaker 3: Get I get you, And I could be talking from

874
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 3: a socialized mind that is saying that is socialization and

875
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:49,240
Speaker 3: this isn't. But I'm speaking from like like I guess.

876
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:51,799
Speaker 4: Speaking of someone with a Cherokee ancestor that.

877
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:56,839
Speaker 7: I'm telling you to to the ancest You feel me,

878
00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 7: But it just seems like like the body makes more sense,

879
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:02,799
Speaker 7: and like the body makes more sense to do it

880
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 7: this way than the other way.

881
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 5: That's just what it seems like to me.

882
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 3: But like you said, I could be speaking from a

883
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 3: minus you know, but I also couldn't.

884
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 2: It's a there's a conspiracy. That's what big door knock

885
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:19,840
Speaker 2: wants you to think. Jesus Christ, all right, that's all

886
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,239
Speaker 2: the all the time we got. Oh, do we have

887
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Speaker 2: any questions?

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Speaker 4: Jackson? In the chat, I forgot to tell people to

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Speaker 4: do that.

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Speaker 12: Nah, we don't. We do have some people chiming in.

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Speaker 12: Chout out to those chiming in and the chat I

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Speaker 12: got someone saying, my man's is on one, why not

893
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Speaker 12: just kick down the door?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Fu yeah rhyme, that's a great point. Why not just no?

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Speaker 1: To me, it's like kicking somebody's door.

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Speaker 3: To me, I think if I put up to the

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Speaker 3: house and kick the door, that's kind of disrespectful.

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Speaker 5: That's not my door, my nigga.

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Speaker 3: Like, we can't even put our feet on she you know,

901
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 3: we're told not to put our feet on shit growing up.

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Speaker 4: But there's likes where they greet each other with their

903
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 4: heads bro right, Like, I'm just saying, it's like there,

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Speaker 4: we're socialized on that. I understand that.

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Speaker 5: I understand your point completely.

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Speaker 3: You just think like, and I gets ady, we're not

907
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Speaker 3: kicking doors, so we're gonna use our hands, you know

908
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 3: what I mean.

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Speaker 5: This makes the most sense when you're using your hand.

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Speaker 4: All right, I'm saying, that's all the time we got.

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Speaker 2: I'm glad that at least one person in the chat

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Speaker 2: agrees that we should probably not kick the door down.

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Speaker 4: I guess that's one thing I.

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Speaker 3: Want to mention before we leave, though, Tyler's point about

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Speaker 3: things being quieter back in the day, Like how like

916
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Speaker 3: how quiet it was that that I'm jealous.

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Speaker 5: I'm jealous.

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Speaker 3: God, that must have been beautiful, you know what I mean,

919
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Speaker 3: Like your house, those surroundings, that that peaceful, you know

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Speaker 3: what I mean?

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Speaker 5: Or like a nigga galloping down the street?

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Speaker 4: Do you know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: Like we get we have so much what's the.

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Speaker 5: Term like white noise, noise, noise pollution?

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean? You and and and and

926
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Speaker 3: to the thought of that made me extremely jealous. Yes,

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Speaker 3: you may die from a common cold in three and

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Speaker 3: a half days.

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Speaker 2: But yes, if you got a headache, yes I wanted

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Speaker 2: to drill a hole in your skull.

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Speaker 3: But the twenty three years you were on this planet

932
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Speaker 3: was very peaceful. You fucking geezer. Thirty was like eighty

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Speaker 3: five back then. But anyway, yeah, yeah, all right, and

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Speaker 3: that made me.

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Speaker 2: Check out Saturday, we got the Jenkins and Jones and

936
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Speaker 2: Friends with Shaun reidropping. I know all three of us

937
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:22,120
Speaker 2: really liked that interview, and definitely tune into that and

938
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Speaker 2: check out to Shawn's podcast series with the Athletic and

939
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Speaker 2: then we will be back for another episode on Sunday

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Speaker 2: night slash Monday morning. We'll be going live Sunday night,

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Speaker 2: so stay tuned for that and we'll talk to Yell

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Speaker 2: then Bye bye,