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Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid verbal holl that for me.

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Speaker 2: I'm a man, I'm forty. I've heard so many players say, well,

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Speaker 2: I want to be happy. You want to be happy

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Speaker 2: for a day? Edith State?

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Speaker 1: Is that? Woo whoo? And then and tie week zero.

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Speaker 1: It's upon us, Dan Rubinstein. We made it fun. We

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Speaker 1: didn't make it happens this weekend, my friend, how are you?

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Speaker 2: I'm good. The biggest game I assume is somewhere in

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Speaker 2: the lower forty eight, right, No, yes, it has to be.

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Speaker 1: Actually, no, we have outsourced that abroad.

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Speaker 2: The most American of all sports, I claim America's true pastime.

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Speaker 2: Not in not in the lower forty eight.

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Speaker 1: No, that game will be played in Ireland between Florida

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Speaker 1: State and Georgia Tech. And we will talk about it

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Speaker 1: are four games to mention. We will talk about all

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Speaker 1: of them a little bit latelater on in this broadcast.

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Speaker 1: We will give you our picks, we'll give you some

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Speaker 1: things to watch for. We will do kind of the

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Speaker 1: express preview, because that's what we do this time of year.

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Speaker 1: But also we're going to talk through our playoff predictions.

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Speaker 1: Any other predictions we want to get out into the

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Speaker 1: open before there are actual college football games that render

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Speaker 1: all of that discussion moot. And then at the top

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Speaker 1: of this episode, in a moment or two, we're going

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Speaker 1: to talk through a few other housekeeping items that may

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Speaker 1: be of note to the forballerhood Dan. But this episode

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Speaker 1: in particular, I think marks the start of the twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty four college football season. It has been a long

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Speaker 1: time coming. It has been a very busy off season

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Speaker 1: of news that did not relate to anything on the field.

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Speaker 1: A last we have arrived where Saturday morning, Saturday afternoon,

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Speaker 1: depending on where you're at, we will actually have a

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Speaker 1: very excited for it.

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Speaker 2: Oh, it's going to be the best. And of course,

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Speaker 2: Clemson is going to leave for like the Bundesliga or

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Speaker 2: something right, going to be something. It never ends. But

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Speaker 2: this is the best time. This is hope springs eternal

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Speaker 2: all around in the sport. And even though we don't

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Speaker 2: have a full weekend to talk about, we get morsels

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Speaker 2: and that's I'm weirdly better with there being a Week

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Speaker 2: like NRG stadium, right, There's something at least fun and

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Speaker 2: weird about playing on a different continent. They're like, oh,

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Speaker 2: an NFL stadium cool. I prefer that my college football

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Speaker 1: So Look, if you're new here, hit follow, hit subscribe.

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Speaker 1: Our Plan of Attack now moving forward will be episodes

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Speaker 1: every Sunday, Tuesday and Thursday. This Sunday, we are going

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Speaker 1: to kick off your week one in style by doing

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Speaker 1: our Fantasy Things episode. We didn't do one last year,

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Speaker 1: going to do one this year. Got to make sure

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Speaker 1: we continue that tradition.

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Speaker 1: Like It's I think people are gonna be very excited

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Speaker 1: for this year for sure. Tuesday, we of course are

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Speaker 1: going to talk through news, get you prepped and ready

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Speaker 1: have a visit from our good friend Dan Carlin over

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Speaker 1: at Hardcore History to talk through his thoughts says, we

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Speaker 1: build again into Week one of the college football season

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Speaker 1: Week one preview drops, and then it's off to the races,

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Speaker 1: my friend, Off to the races.

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Speaker 2: Pace yourself, Tye, work your core, work your glutes, get

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Speaker 2: The longest season we will ever do to this point, right,

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Speaker 2: could be the last.

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Speaker 1: I have been conserving my voice for that drop.

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Speaker 1: I was not that excited about the Tate Rotdamaker news.

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Speaker 1: I was pretty excited about the Malik Murphy news at Duke.

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Speaker 1: Run the Board. Run the Board is our season long

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Speaker 1: pick them game. Each week, we've got ten to twelve

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Speaker 1: It's the most esteemed group in all of college football podcasting.

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of pain involved, but I've made peace

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, Ty, how much it can be breaking.

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Speaker 2: At the same time, new merch is coming. People have

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Speaker 1: Where do we get? Merch is coming?

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Speaker 2: We've got Where are the magnets, That's what they've yelled

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Speaker 2: at us, Ty, Where are those damn magnets.

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Speaker 1: We've got magnets. This year we made the magnet magnets.

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Speaker 1: I'm very excited. More so about the Magnets than anything else.

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Speaker 1: last but not least, Dan, we have a new show

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Speaker 2: Okay, so we are launching a new show each Friday morning,

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Speaker 2: for Big Ten Breakfast. That's right, Ty, It doesn't mean

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Speaker 2: we are only talking the Big Ten on this show.

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Speaker 1: I'm excited. That'll be great. Whoop. So listen if you

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Speaker 1: You say nobody will remember this, Michigan fans will remember this.

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Speaker 1: I can assure you they wire.

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Speaker 2: Well you went, you doubled back on Michigan last year.

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Speaker 2: That was your problem.

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Speaker 1: We have two of the same teams at the top.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I do.

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Speaker 1: Was that a tough decision for you?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, here are what my first round matchups look like. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I've got one through four Ohio State, Georgia, Utah, and

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Speaker 2: Game Amari Cooper situation.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, twenty twelve, twenty thirteen, whatever that was. And then

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Speaker 1: the final matchup here, I've got Ole miss playing host

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Speaker 2: Oh Me rematch of last year's bowl game.

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Speaker 1: Yes, rematch of last year's Bowl game, which Old Miss won.

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Speaker 2: That seems like fun opening round to me. On various campuses.

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Speaker 1: I've got Ole Miss over Penn State. I've got Oregon

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Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, So Notre Dame hosting that game, correct, so

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Speaker 1: That's the weather factor for you. That's the weather factor.

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Speaker 1: Moving on, Georgia over Notre Dame. Let's not get crazy

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Speaker 1: Texas knocking off Utah. I've got your Oregon Ducks knocking

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Speaker 2: Oh, that's a nice little treat.

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Speaker 1: Moving to the semifinals, and I've got Ole Miss over

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Speaker 1: the semifinals where potentially we've got two semifinal matchups that

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Speaker 1: They could play again in a national semifinal. My thinking

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Speaker 2: Is it if you've beaten Oregon twice already or Ohio

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Speaker 1: Okay, I've got Oregon in that matchup?

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Speaker 1: And I've got Georgia over Oregon for my national championship.

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Speaker 2: Okay. Another Dan Lanning Kirby smart duel. Okay.

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Speaker 1: I'm trying not to overthink it too much. Dan, It's

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Speaker 2: System we have where we could have at least two

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Speaker 2: Think of all the new matchups they said and ties

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Speaker 1: And I try ride my best to not finagle the

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Speaker 1: I look, that's just the way it worked out for me.

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Speaker 1: So yours looks like this. You've got Ohio State over

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Speaker 1: You've got Penn State over Old Miss. By the way,

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Speaker 2: Yes, I do.

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Speaker 1: You've got Tennessee, a ten seed, going to Notre Dame

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Speaker 1: And you've got Texas knocking off their former conference mate

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Speaker 2: Yeah. No, Tennessee is an upside pick because of Nico

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Speaker 2: But I think, you know, the defense has gotten continually

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Speaker 2: And Kansas State is you know, all in on Avery Johnson? Right, no,

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Speaker 2: on Avery Johnson. Continue. You don't have Alabama in this.

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Speaker 2: I do not have Alabama and that was very difficult

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I still think the difficulty in losing some of the

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Speaker 1: One of the things that we have in common, Dan,

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Speaker 1: So I had Oregon knocking off Miami, I had Texas

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Speaker 1: You've got Texas over Clemson. You also have Oregon over Tennessee,

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Speaker 2: Yeah. And I don't even know like Clemson's the higher

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Speaker 2: that conference champ that I could see, you know, the

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Speaker 2: Yeah? In Texas finishing you know, six or seven, but

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Speaker 2: if you win your conference, you are afforded that top

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Speaker 2: be starting a lot of and rotating in a lot

436
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Speaker 2: of guys without a ton of experience, without a ton

437
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Speaker 2: of like twenty twenty three snaps on peakee Kwakowski's defense,

438
00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:14,440
Speaker 2: but like they're a prime candidate to me, Like maybe

439
00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:16,480
Speaker 2: they survive a couple close ones that they shouldn't have

440
00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:19,040
Speaker 2: early on as they get adjusted to the SEC, but

441
00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:22,000
Speaker 2: really ramp up as the younger guys get more experienced

442
00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:23,800
Speaker 2: by the back half of the schedule. That's why I

443
00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:25,720
Speaker 2: have Texas doing as well as I have them.

444
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you've got Ohio State over Georgia.

445
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Speaker 2: I do, and what will be a freaking war. Hate

446
00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:32,919
Speaker 2: that pick, but I do.

447
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Speaker 1: And you've got Oregon over Texas, So your final would

448
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Speaker 1: be Oregon against Ohio State. How much did you waffle

449
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Speaker 1: with that Ohio State over Georgia pick, because that one

450
00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:46,080
Speaker 1: seems like it would be an impossibility for me. I

451
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Speaker 1: don't even know who i'd pick there.

452
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I hate the pick, but there is something to

453
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Speaker 2: me about Ohio State's defense this year that I just

454
00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:56,920
Speaker 2: can't ignore. And I know George is also going to

455
00:22:56,960 --> 00:23:01,000
Speaker 2: have an excellent defense, But there is also the fact

456
00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:04,800
Speaker 2: that Ohio State has added what they have on offense

457
00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:07,840
Speaker 2: on the sideline in Chip Kelly that I think their

458
00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:12,200
Speaker 2: ceiling is so impressive. I love both of these teams,

459
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Speaker 2: but there is something about the age of Ohio State's

460
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Speaker 2: defense that there are going to be a bunch of

461
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Speaker 2: just men playing on that side of the ball for

462
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Speaker 2: Ohio State that I think they might be built to

463
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Speaker 2: survive a game like that. I don't know where exactly

464
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Speaker 2: it'll be played. You know, geography may matter there, but

465
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Speaker 2: I don't know. There is something about the energy emanating

466
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Speaker 2: out of Columbus that has me believing and Oregon over Texas,

467
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Speaker 2: Oregon over Texas, yep, in terms of quarterback trust there,

468
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Speaker 2: I think that's what I came down to that I

469
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Speaker 2: think I trust. I hate the pick. I think i've

470
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Speaker 2: Oregon winning the whole thing, right, I hate it. It's

471
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Speaker 2: going to be wrong.

472
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Speaker 1: And you've got Oregon over Ohio State.

473
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I've got organ over Ohio State maybe three times.

474
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Speaker 2: I don't know how many times they'll play. There is

475
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Speaker 2: in going back and forth with that one. With the

476
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Speaker 2: National Championship, I think I trust Dylan Gabriel more than

477
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:06,000
Speaker 2: Quinn yours on that type of stage, and.

478
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Speaker 1: Then he picked Oregon. You picked Oregon to win it all?

479
00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:10,280
Speaker 2: I have Oregon over Ohio State. I was gonna say,

480
00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:12,320
Speaker 2: I still have like a little bit of a Will

481
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Speaker 2: Howard question in the back of my mind.

482
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Speaker 1: The closer we've gotten to the season, the more I

483
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:23,560
Speaker 1: have had the same question, because you know, like we

484
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Speaker 1: did videos about Will Howard. We're pretty high on Will Howard,

485
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Speaker 1: to be clear, but is it fair to assume that

486
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Speaker 1: Will Howard is just going to step in and there

487
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Speaker 1: won't be any kind of breaking in period. He's going

488
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Speaker 1: to hit the ground running. Now, He's got a very

489
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Speaker 1: good career, but anytime you're joining a new team, even

490
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Speaker 1: ones that have this much talent around him, there is

491
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Speaker 1: still something of a transition. And I do worry a

492
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Speaker 1: little bit that I have undersold what that looks like,

493
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Speaker 1: and also maybe overlook the fact that there is a

494
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Speaker 1: very crowded quarterback room in column this where if Will

495
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Speaker 1: Howard does not pop or does not pop enough in

496
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Speaker 1: the early part of the season, there are other options

497
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:10,879
Speaker 1: that Ryan Day and Chip Kelly could turn to that

498
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:12,080
Speaker 1: might give them more production.

499
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Speaker 2: Well, he turned to a couple of those guys in

500
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Speaker 2: the Bowl game last year, And I don't know if

501
00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:18,119
Speaker 2: pop is the word I would use to describe the

502
00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:21,040
Speaker 2: Ohio State offense with those guys at the helm. Yeah,

503
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Speaker 2: I think the question with Ohio State is what is

504
00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:28,400
Speaker 2: Ohio State's ceiling? If Will Howard is merely fine? Right that,

505
00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:31,919
Speaker 2: if everything around him is so crazy good, which I

506
00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:35,720
Speaker 2: expect it to be, that they can weather not having

507
00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:40,439
Speaker 2: a vaguely Heisman or a not vaguely Heisman caliber performance

508
00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:43,359
Speaker 2: all season long from Will Howard, Like some of he's

509
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:49,240
Speaker 2: thrown in multiple stinkers against ranked teams at Kansas State. Yeah,

510
00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:51,520
Speaker 2: not all his fault, of course, Like there are a

511
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:54,000
Speaker 2: number of you know, things at play when a quarterback

512
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:59,280
Speaker 2: doesn't have a good game. But to project forward and say,

513
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:05,800
Speaker 2: is Will Howard of similar level to the players that

514
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:08,080
Speaker 2: he is next to in his backfield, the receivers on

515
00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:13,280
Speaker 2: that roster, of course, the defense? My answer is I

516
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:16,320
Speaker 2: could see it sometimes, but it's not obvious to me

517
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:19,639
Speaker 2: that it is just going to be consistently like the CJ.

518
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:24,879
Speaker 2: Stroudiness that we've seen. I think there's a step between

519
00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:27,159
Speaker 2: Will Howard and those kind of guys.

520
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Speaker 1: So you've got Oregon winning it all over, Ohio State

521
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:35,439
Speaker 1: hate it, but yes, I've got Georgia winning it all over. Oregon.

522
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:39,159
Speaker 1: So we're both pretty high on Oregon. Of the teams

523
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:41,639
Speaker 1: that you put in this playoff and of the games

524
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:45,080
Speaker 1: that just sort of happened as a result, are there

525
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Speaker 1: any other ones that come to mind when you think

526
00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:51,960
Speaker 1: of dilemmas, dilemmas that you had trying to figure out

527
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:54,480
Speaker 1: your bracket. I look at mine, I see Notre Dame

528
00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:59,320
Speaker 1: hosting Alabama, and my thought with that, in giving the

529
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Speaker 1: game to Notre Dame, was a, It's not the same Alabama.

530
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 1: They're still very good, They're still very talented. They probably

531
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:07,720
Speaker 1: they definitely have more talent still on the roster of

532
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 1: the Notre Dame. But the games in South Bend, I

533
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:13,439
Speaker 1: don't know what version of Bama we're going to get

534
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 1: this season. You don't even have them in your playoff, right,

535
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:19,760
Speaker 1: Does it mean they couldn't go to South Bend and

536
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:22,040
Speaker 1: beat Notre Dame? But I feel like there are more

537
00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:24,919
Speaker 1: known quantities on the Notre Dame side, and if that

538
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 1: game's at home, that's gonna be a Rockets environment. So

539
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:31,159
Speaker 1: for me, that's why I went in that direction. I

540
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 1: struggled with that one mightily. The other one that I

541
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:35,920
Speaker 1: could really get my head around was Penn State against

542
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 1: ole Miss. We both had that matchup. We both have

543
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 1: ole Miss as an eight playing host to number nine

544
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 1: Penn State. As you said, rematch of the bowl game,

545
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:47,320
Speaker 1: why did you take Penn State over ole Miss?

546
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:51,480
Speaker 2: Defense? Where do I have that game being played? I

547
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 2: think I have it being played in Oxford, right, Yeah? Defense,

548
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 2: I think defense travels and Penn State didn't have its

549
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:03,320
Speaker 2: full roster composition on defense in the bowl game. I

550
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 2: don't believe. Maybe I'm wrong, but I think they were down. Yeah,

551
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,840
Speaker 2: they were done or something to COMPLI yeah, So to me,

552
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 2: that's the difference. I don't love Jackson Dart in huge games,

553
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:14,960
Speaker 2: his track record, not to say I love Drew Aller,

554
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:19,200
Speaker 2: but I love the idea of Penn State ascending to

555
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 2: pretty good on offense from where they were last year.

556
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,320
Speaker 2: Whether it's a Andy Cotel Nikki thing, whether it's you know,

557
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:28,720
Speaker 2: improved health and roster at receiver. I think Penn State's

558
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:31,320
Speaker 2: gonna have more pop on offense, and in those moments,

559
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:33,600
Speaker 2: I think the Winter Wonder will be Penn State's defense.

560
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:35,119
Speaker 2: So that's why I had them overall Miss.

561
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:38,360
Speaker 1: The deeper we get into this season, once we get

562
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 1: to our winter Wonders Bullpool. There will be a bracket

563
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:43,440
Speaker 1: component as part of that game, which you can only

564
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Speaker 1: play if you are a listener of this show and

565
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 1: if you care about all things. Bowl projections were a

566
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 1: long way off from that, but bear in mind this

567
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 1: year there's gonna be a little bit of a March

568
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 1: madness feel to the college football postseason because we have

569
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 1: a bracket to fill out, and we'd be remiss if

570
00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 1: we didn't fill out brackets, right, That's just or of

571
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 1: what we do here. So obviously a lot more to

572
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 1: come on this front. We have to see how the

573
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 1: season plays out. We will make sure that our brackets

574
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 1: get posted out to social media and on our website

575
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 1: in places where people can go and refer to them.

576
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 1: But would welcome you to write in at saliverbo at

577
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:15,360
Speaker 1: gmail dot com and let us know where we're right,

578
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:18,680
Speaker 1: where we're wrong. Give us your twelve, yeah, give us

579
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 1: your twelve right. There's so many different ways you can

580
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 1: play this. It is kind of cool that we're picking

581
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 1: twelve just from a content standpoint as opposed to four

582
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:29,240
Speaker 1: to get to include more teams. So I did enjoy

583
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 1: that exercise, although I will say it was harder than

584
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 1: I expected who.

585
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Speaker 2: Did you going into the exercise say like, yeah, I

586
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 2: think I'm going to put them in, And then as

587
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 2: you wrote names down, You're like, I guess I'm not

588
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 2: putting them in. Were there any teams that, like, were

589
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 2: pet teams in and around the top twenty five LC, Yeah, Tennis.

590
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 1: I struggled with Tennessee. I wanted to put Tennessee in.

591
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 1: I was going back and forth a thousand times over

592
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:58,840
Speaker 1: with am I putting two teams in from the ACC

593
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 1: or the Big twelve. That to me was probably the

594
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 1: biggest dilemma, because I really like Kansas State. But ultimately

595
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:08,240
Speaker 1: I think I like Clemson and the promise of what

596
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:11,080
Speaker 1: they've done on defense a little bit more and what

597
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:13,560
Speaker 1: I think their offense could do a little bit more

598
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 1: than even the excitement of Avery Johnson. I just I

599
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 1: feel like there's much more to lean back on there.

600
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 1: So I put Clemson in and I left Tennessee out

601
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 1: in favor of Alabama.

602
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 2: Arizona was a school that I was like, oh man,

603
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 2: I want to see what the defense looks like before

604
00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 2: I fall fully in love and you know, buy that

605
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 2: vacation home with the Arizona Wildcats and the rolling Hills

606
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:40,040
Speaker 2: of Tuscany, so can't do that quite yet, but they

607
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 2: still might have my favorite pairing of receiver and quarterback

608
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 2: with Tea Mac and no Fafida. So yeah, eyeballs on them. Yeah.

609
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:50,960
Speaker 2: The acc Big twelve question was certainly one with me,

610
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 2: Bama Michigan. Michigan might have the best defensive line in

611
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 2: college football with Kenneth Grant and Mason Graham anchoring things.

612
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 2: And it's the entire season is Alex Orgy or I

613
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 2: guess whoever technically ends up starting at quarterback for Michigan

614
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 2: and what the identity is and how malleable they are

615
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:10,360
Speaker 2: if things aren't working. Michigan was very difficult to leave out.

616
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 2: Like I think it's pretty stupid that I'm leaving them out.

617
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 2: I'm still high on Michigan this season. Their schedule though

618
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 2: in appear like at large conversation with having Texas that early,

619
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Speaker 2: and I think when they have sc and Oregon and

620
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 2: having Ohio State excuse me, on the road now, Michigan's

621
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 2: beating them a bunch, showing more as betan Ohio State.

622
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 2: That one was difficult to me. Bama was difficult for me,

623
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Speaker 2: And I'm going to say, like the August Beetlejuice school,

624
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:40,479
Speaker 2: tie A and M, A and M. If we are

625
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 2: having a conversation about schedule, quarterback, defensive ceiling, Excuse me,

626
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 2: I'm getting choked up just talking about it. That's the

627
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 2: Beatle that you know. They're August Beatles. Just you don't

628
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 2: want to say their name because you're always going to

629
00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 2: disappoint you. There is a new Beetlejuice movie coming out, right,

630
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 2: I did see that. Yeah, Yeah, that's why Beatles is

631
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:03,960
Speaker 2: probably is you don't say the name three times.

632
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 1: He can't say it three times.

633
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 2: Don't say Aggie three times.

634
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 1: Now.

635
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 2: That was the other school where I'm like, wouldn't it

636
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 2: be just like A and M to never ever do it?

637
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 2: Spend so much money on Jimbo, spends so much money

638
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 2: getting rid of Jimbo and then immediately make the playoff.

639
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 2: It would be some college football weirdness.

640
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 1: Look that Week one line against Notre Dame keeps going

641
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:29,800
Speaker 1: up right and would have a signature out of conference win,

642
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 1: three point home favorite in that matchup. They're going to

643
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 1: play it at night on Saturday. That's going to be

644
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 1: sort of the big matchup at night that we'll talk

645
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 1: about a week from now when we do our Week

646
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 1: one preview, that line has moved. There's obviously a lot

647
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 1: of steam on A and M being at least a

648
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:50,480
Speaker 1: pretty good team. A lot remains to be seen how

649
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 1: good though, so playoffs a little bit too aggressive for me.

650
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 1: The only other team that I will say, and then

651
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Speaker 1: we'll move on and talk a couple of these Week

652
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Speaker 1: zero games. I did consider Oklahoma State just because I

653
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Speaker 1: have Oklahoma State in my conference championship game against Utah. Yeah,

654
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 1: and I like Ali Gordon. I like in general where

655
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 1: I think this team's going to be at from a

656
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 1: returning production standpoint, I think the schedule works to their favor.

657
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 1: There's really a lot in Oklahoma State's favor this year.

658
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Speaker 1: I'm not sure I fully trust Alan Bowman to make

659
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 1: it through a year, okay, to make it through a

660
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 1: year healthy and to be high level enough as a

661
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 1: passer that Oklahoma State's going to find their way into

662
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Speaker 1: the top twelve. I think they'll be a very good team.

663
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Speaker 1: Their top fifteen quality for sure. Top twelve.

664
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Speaker 2: I can't do it any other footste teams. I have

665
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Speaker 2: two more that I just sort of like. And actually

666
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Speaker 2: these two teams, if you combine them i'd have them

667
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 2: winning a major conference. Okay, LSU and Iowa. Okay, Iowa's

668
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 2: schedule is awesome, it's good, it's pretty great, and so

669
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Speaker 2: they could just be one of those teams where you're like, oh,

670
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Speaker 2: I guess they're number nine in the country. We got

671
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Speaker 2: to put them in, right. I don't fully believe that

672
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 2: to be the case, but given their schedule, given that

673
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 2: they play great defense, they're just gonna win a bunch

674
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Speaker 2: of games. And so if they win a bunch of

675
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 2: thirteen tens instead of losing thirteen tens, they're in this

676
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Speaker 2: conversation the other one LSU that if I tell you

677
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 2: right now that like, I can't tell you how I

678
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:23,240
Speaker 2: know this, but LSU is going to have a pretty

679
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:25,879
Speaker 2: average defense this year. They're they're going to move forward

680
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:29,760
Speaker 2: to average. And we expect this offense given the receivers

681
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 2: coming in. The receivers they bring back, the offensive lineman back,

682
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:35,799
Speaker 2: especially those tackles like Karen Neusmyer doesn't throw the ball

683
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 2: away a little bit too much. They become interesting too.

684
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Speaker 2: Did you play foot see with either of those teams?

685
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:41,719
Speaker 1: No?

686
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 2: Okay, because of those specific issues, I.

687
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Speaker 1: Thought more about LSU than I did Iowa. But I'm

688
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:49,800
Speaker 1: not at a point where I'm ready to take Iowa seriously,

689
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Speaker 1: Okay not. I want to see the offense actually do

690
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Speaker 1: something before I'm will and even put them in this conversation.

691
00:34:56,719 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 1: I think by virtue of their schedule and their defense

692
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 1: and just their consistency with winning what eight nine games

693
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:07,719
Speaker 1: a year, I think they'll be on the periphery of

694
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Speaker 1: this conversation just by default, but actually being like a

695
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Speaker 1: serious contender, I'm not seeing it.

696
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:16,319
Speaker 2: You were not in on MISSOO during preview season, I was.

697
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:19,479
Speaker 2: Their schedule is pretty pretty spectacular as well.

698
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Speaker 1: It is.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, I just I think there's just a

700
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:24,840
Speaker 2: bunch of nine and three teams across all of these

701
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 2: all of these conferences as they've all grown in depth,

702
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 2: where you're just like, I think Maszoo is going to

703
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 2: be a victim of that, you know, coming from the

704
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Speaker 2: SEC East and having a change schedule that's a little

705
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:37,440
Speaker 2: bit more varied and weird, and there'll be one of

706
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Speaker 2: those nine and three ish teams that ultimately won't be

707
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:43,360
Speaker 2: in that you know, Thanksgiving conversation.

708
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Speaker 1: It'll be interesting to see how these later round matchups

709
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 1: in the playoffs shakeout. Because if we end up getting

710
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:54,319
Speaker 1: a bunch of rematches, how that affects things like TV

711
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:59,240
Speaker 1: ratings and the money indicators that the network executives care about.

712
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 1: That'll be an interesting thing to chart and follow. Gotta

713
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:04,239
Speaker 1: play the season first, though.

714
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 2: Gotta play the season.

715
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Speaker 1: And with that being said, time any of the weak

716
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Speaker 1: first time all year. I'm playing that damn sound. I'm excited.

717
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 1: It's the best twelve PM on ESPN. It is the

718
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Speaker 1: Florida State Seminoles. It is the Georgia Tech Yellowjackets. Florida

719
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Speaker 1: State is an eleven point favorite in a game referred

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Speaker 1: to as the air Lingus. That's ae R Lingus College

721
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 1: Football Classic being played in Dublin at Aviva Stadium. So

722
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Speaker 1: I did the research. Florida State has never played a

723
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Speaker 1: game in Ireland, at least not that I could find.

724
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Speaker 2: I was hoping you were going to start doing Dublin history.

725
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 2: They're like, I've done the research. The Vikings actually set

726
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 2: sail in the year eleven eighteen ended up and yeah, continue,

727
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 2: But Georgia Tech's been there, they have.

728
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 1: Georgia Tech played a game in Ireland way back in

729
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:07,439
Speaker 1: days of yore, when we were young and full of life.

730
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 1: In twenty sixteen, they beat Boston College in a game

731
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Speaker 1: that came down to the wire. I don't know how

732
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:16,320
Speaker 1: well you remember this game seventeen fourteen. It was a

733
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 1: nail bider. Tech needed some late heroics in the fourth

734
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:22,360
Speaker 1: quarter Tomount to come back and when that was a

735
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:24,719
Speaker 1: Paul Johnson team that went I think nine to four

736
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 1: to close out the year. So it was a good

737
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 1: Georgia Tech team. They almost lost that game. Of note

738
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Speaker 1: here though, when we did our acc preview Dan back

739
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:39,320
Speaker 1: at the end of July, DraftKings had this line in

740
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:42,839
Speaker 1: around thirteen points give or take. That line has now

741
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 1: come down to about eleven, and it seems as if

742
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 1: there is momentum on it potentially to go down a

743
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:51,320
Speaker 1: little bit further. Okay, we know Georgia Tech can score.

744
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 1: We know they can score, and Vegas knows they can

745
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 1: score two. That's why the over under is fifty five

746
00:37:56,719 --> 00:38:01,440
Speaker 1: and a half. Vegas is expecting points I'm expecting points plus.

747
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 1: We also know that Georgia Tech has the Haines Your

748
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:09,399
Speaker 1: Way backfield with Haines King Jamal Haines and who can

749
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:12,759
Speaker 1: hate the Haines Your Way backfield? Right? That's exciting. Maybe

750
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:15,319
Speaker 1: another reason for the line movement, but probably not. And

751
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 1: that's something from somebody who wrote Chris Berman a letter

752
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:21,919
Speaker 1: with nickname suggestions, what is it the Haines Haines your way?

753
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:24,240
Speaker 1: What did you call it? Well? I call it Haines

754
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:26,279
Speaker 1: your Way. My letter to Berman was for R. J.

755
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 1: Soward that he should use RJ. Sweet and Soward and

756
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:32,719
Speaker 1: he did. That's one of my crowning achievements, to say

757
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 1: the least, pulling those strings. There are a lot of

758
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:37,560
Speaker 1: reasons here why this line might go down. There's some

759
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 1: uncertainty with Florida State with a new quarterback, with new

760
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,240
Speaker 1: players across the field. Do they have the same amount

761
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:45,360
Speaker 1: of pop as they did a year ago? Not the

762
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 1: least of witches. They're all playing this game in a

763
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:49,399
Speaker 1: different country. Who are you picking?

764
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:52,880
Speaker 2: I have Florida State winning this game. I have Georgia

765
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:57,280
Speaker 2: Tech covering. I think there will be an adjustment period

766
00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 2: for Florida State. I don't love of dju's history and

767
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 2: covering games. Last year, Oregon State was kind of a

768
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 2: toss up. Georgia Tech. I think went three and two

769
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:11,359
Speaker 2: when they were double digit dogs last year, so they

770
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 2: had some fight in them against the better teams they faced.

771
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:16,399
Speaker 2: I think they went down big and lost and didn't

772
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:19,399
Speaker 2: cover to Clemson and ole Miss. I want to say

773
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 2: last season when they were double digit dogs, but otherwise

774
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 2: were very competitive. Now that was as they had momentum

775
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:26,879
Speaker 2: into the season, had a sense of what they were

776
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 2: and what they were not. But new defense maybe a

777
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:31,440
Speaker 2: little bit mysterious Tyler Santucci and Georgia Tech's new defense,

778
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 2: maybe they confused DJU a bit. Ultimately, I think the

779
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:36,800
Speaker 2: athletes are going to win out, and you know, the

780
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:40,240
Speaker 2: Florida State will find ways, whether it's Milk Benson, Royda Williams,

781
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 2: the Bama transfers, the experience on the offensive line. Ultimately,

782
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:47,920
Speaker 2: I think they pull away. But would you say, at

783
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 2: the time of recording the number it's eleven now, yeah,

784
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:52,759
Speaker 2: I think I think Georgia Tech barely covers this line.

785
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 2: I think the final score is something like thirty four

786
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:58,319
Speaker 2: twenty six or something like that.

787
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Speaker 1: I don't know, I have something similar. Okay, I'm going

788
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 1: to be watching the Florida State defense most intently, and

789
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 1: I said this during our team previews. You might recall this.

790
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 1: I don't know, but you know, like Florida State's defense

791
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 1: ultimately is going to be fine. It's not like they're

792
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:18,319
Speaker 1: suddenly going to turn into Swiss cheese or anything like that.

793
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 1: But it is situations like this that can be tricky

794
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:24,880
Speaker 1: because you're playing away from home and again another freaking country.

795
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:28,279
Speaker 1: They got new faces at all three levels of this

796
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 1: defense against an experienced offense that can score, So don't

797
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:35,839
Speaker 1: be surprised. This is one of those deals where if

798
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 1: you're away from the TV, it's like, oh, football is on,

799
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 1: I forgot and you turn it on and at halftime

800
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:45,759
Speaker 1: it's something like Georgia Tech seventeen, Florida State ten. Don't

801
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 1: be surprised if that's the case. It feels to me

802
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:51,040
Speaker 1: like that could be the case in a game like this.

803
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 1: Where it gets dicey, though, is if Tech tries to

804
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:56,799
Speaker 1: play as quickly as they did a year ago and

805
00:40:56,840 --> 00:41:00,400
Speaker 1: they can't score, then they're giving Florida State more chances

806
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 1: against their own defense, which last year was not even

807
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 1: a thing. They did not play defense at all last year.

808
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:12,919
Speaker 1: I am not betting on their defense getting that much

809
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:15,719
Speaker 1: better this year. I think it has to improve. They've

810
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:18,759
Speaker 1: got a new coordinator in Tyler Santucci. Maybe he can

811
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 1: call a masterpiece against DJU. Right, the book is out

812
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:24,560
Speaker 1: on DJU to some extent. He's been in this game

813
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 1: for a good long time. Maybe Tyler Santucci can scheme

814
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:30,800
Speaker 1: something up. It's the early part of the season, new teammates,

815
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:31,720
Speaker 1: et cetera, et cetera.

816
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:34,439
Speaker 2: Oh the way, he's played Georgia Tech twice. He's played

817
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:37,960
Speaker 2: Georgia Tech twice and was unremarkable in both of those games.

818
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 2: Not different teams. But this might be a better defense

819
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:42,840
Speaker 2: than what Georgia Tech had in those two years. I

820
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:43,239
Speaker 2: don't know.

821
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 1: I don't see. That's the thing. And so if they're

822
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:46,959
Speaker 1: going to try to play quick and if they don't

823
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 1: get much success, and if suddenly Florida State gets more

824
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:52,799
Speaker 1: bites at the Apple on offense, they're going to score theirs. Yeah,

825
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:55,959
Speaker 1: they're just they're going to score. So I think Tech

826
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 1: is going to be fired up for this game. They've

827
00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:00,200
Speaker 1: had this history now under bran Key, where they play

828
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 1: up in these bigger games. They're gonna treat this like

829
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 1: it's a playoff semi final, and I think it's gonna

830
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:07,760
Speaker 1: be fun. I actually think it's gonna be a really

831
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:11,719
Speaker 1: good game to watch. I am very similarly minded to you,

832
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:15,959
Speaker 1: I've got Florida State thirty four to twenty eight over

833
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 1: Georgia Tech in a fun game, and I do have

834
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:21,040
Speaker 1: just because, I mean, it's the reason for the season

835
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 1: luck of the week. My lock is the over fifty

836
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:29,720
Speaker 1: five and a half in this game.

837
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Speaker 2: I guess I have that right. Thirty four to twenty

838
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 2: six is what I said. My mass is, that's sixty

839
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:37,799
Speaker 2: hitting the over.

840
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:40,719
Speaker 1: I think the play is the over here. There's a

841
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:42,880
Speaker 1: lot of good players on his Florida State defense. For

842
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:47,280
Speaker 1: as much as I believe in the Georgia Tech offense, yeah,

843
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:51,440
Speaker 1: that's how little I believe in their defense. I think

844
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:54,279
Speaker 1: Florida State will be able to score. And there is

845
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:56,879
Speaker 1: definitely a possibility where Florida State ends up winning this game,

846
00:42:57,000 --> 00:43:00,799
Speaker 1: like forty two to twenty, and it's not even really

847
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 1: in doubt. So I'd rather err on the side of

848
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:05,880
Speaker 1: more points than trying to stay within that eleven number.

849
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:09,439
Speaker 2: By the way, if you are if you are going

850
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:15,319
Speaker 2: Bambino for pizza to Dublin, great pizza, great, I'd say

851
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 2: that as a pizza snob and dork. Great pizza and

852
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 2: Grano gr a nl for Italian food really good, cool, neighborhood.

853
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 1: Three other games here that we got to make mention of.

854
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:27,360
Speaker 1: This one's at four pm. It's on FS one. It

855
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:31,360
Speaker 1: is Montana State on the road at New Mexico. Montana

856
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 1: State the FCS. Montana State, the number four team in

857
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 1: the preseason FCS poll, is a ten to one half

858
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:46,239
Speaker 1: point favorite here over New Mexico. In Bronco Mendenhall remember him,

859
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:49,680
Speaker 1: I do, Bronco mannon Hall's first game with the Lobos.

860
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 1: Here is an interesting factoid that I found just from

861
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 1: Peruising on Twitter. Shout out to Brad Powers from the

862
00:43:55,520 --> 00:44:00,279
Speaker 1: bet to Board podcast. Mind this gem for us fcsteams

863
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:05,920
Speaker 1: as small underdogs and favorites against FBS teams are sixty

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Speaker 1: five percent against the spread. Now, he didn't define what

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Speaker 1: a small a small dog or a vable bitch, but

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Speaker 1: this is a pretty big number. If that ten and

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Speaker 1: a half line holds, it would also be the largest

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Speaker 1: FCS favorite ever against an FBS team, which I think,

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Speaker 1: in and of itself, dan is a pretty strong indicator

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Speaker 1: that Vegas thinks Montana States go win this game straight

871
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Speaker 1: up right. I will not pretend that I have any

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Speaker 1: hot Montana State takes because I do not, Right, I

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Speaker 1: do know it's going to be a rough year for

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Speaker 1: Bronco and Albuquerque.

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Speaker 2: Though fifty three hundred feet above sea level Albuquerque, I

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Speaker 2: don't know if that plays into It's going to be

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Speaker 2: in the nineties, is what I'm seeing here, so hot,

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Speaker 2: thin air. Maybe the guys from Montana not necessarily used

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Speaker 2: to the environs. I have no take on this one.

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Speaker 2: I like that, I like that trend though. That's good.

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Speaker 2: I'll give the points.

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Speaker 1: I'll say something like thirty one seventeen Montana State. Okay,

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Speaker 1: fair enough, eight PMS, CBS Sports Network, Mine yours, Everyone's

884
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Speaker 1: SMU twenty seven point favorite on the road at Nevada.

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Speaker 1: Nevada starting over with a new coach, Jeff Choate, they

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00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 1: should be one of the worst teams in the conference,

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Speaker 1: if not one of the worst in college football. Very

888
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 1: thin on offense, very lumpy on defense. Their pass rush

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00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:39,840
Speaker 1: should be better questionable at best against the run. I

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00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:42,799
Speaker 1: am just super high on SMU, almost to the point

891
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 1: where I don't think I can be objective. So they

892
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:48,279
Speaker 1: should win this game going away. I don't have a

893
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:51,680
Speaker 1: pick against a spread or anything like that. If SMU

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Speaker 1: is half as good as I have made them, out

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Speaker 1: to be here in the preseason. They should blow the

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Speaker 1: doors off of Nevada full stop.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I agree, I'll give those points final game.

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Speaker 1: This one's got a little bit of an interesting nugget

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Speaker 1: associated with it. It is Delaware State at Hawaii HAWAIIB

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Speaker 1: Maybe you're right, what do we mean by that? Well,

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00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:16,359
Speaker 1: Hawaii is a thirty eight point favorite. Delaware State has

902
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 1: a nice little travel nightmare story. People like to share

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Speaker 1: those online. But the vaunted Hornets of Delaware State missed

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Speaker 1: their ten and a half hour flight earlier in the

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Speaker 1: week due to a quote bus snaff fu. I have

906
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Speaker 1: not gotten further clarity and what a bus snaff fou entails.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if it broke down, went to the

908
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 1: wrong place, or showed up at the wrong time, But

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Speaker 1: alas the bus didn't get into JFK and they missed

910
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Speaker 1: the fight. So what are they doing. Well, they apparently

911
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:48,839
Speaker 1: broke their flight up like you and I would with

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Speaker 1: commercially available fights to get their way from the East

913
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Speaker 1: coast all the way out to the West coast. So

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Speaker 1: it is definitely going to be a bit of a

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Speaker 1: process to get Delaware State out to the islands to

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Speaker 1: square off against the Timmy Chang led Hawaii Warriors.

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Speaker 2: Was that like a Canadian process, a process, it depends,

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Speaker 2: I appre I like that.

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Speaker 1: Delaware State at Hawaii Hawai is a pretty healthy favorite

920
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 1: here Dan. Hopefully Delaware State makes it. Hopefully they have

921
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Speaker 1: some time to enjoy the islands. And it's not all

922
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Speaker 1: just you know, hurry up and go. But this one's

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00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:28,239
Speaker 1: being played about midnight Eastern time, so you get a

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Speaker 1: full day of college football if that's your thing. You

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Speaker 1: can watch from neon Eastern all the way through until

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Speaker 1: about three am Eastern, if you were ever so inclined.

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Speaker 1: First weekend of football, albeit a much lighter slate. We

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Speaker 1: will fully kick into gear on our Week one preview,

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Speaker 1: which is coming up next week, but this is the

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Speaker 1: slate in week zero.

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Speaker 2: I looked up while you were saying that notable Delaware

932
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Speaker 2: State alumni. I recognize exactly one name on the list,

933
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Speaker 2: and it was I won't say great, but it was

934
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Speaker 2: the number two receiver to Jerry Rice for the forty

935
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Speaker 2: nine ers and like the early nineties, late eighties, John Taylor. Yeah,

936
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Speaker 2: literally the only one I recognized, and it was just like, hey,

937
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Speaker 2: this guy was in the House of representatives from nineteen

938
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Speaker 2: seventy three to nineteen seventy six. You're like, okay, cool,

939
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Speaker 2: thanks Clyde.

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Speaker 1: That was it.

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Speaker 2: That's the only thing I have to say about the

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Speaker 2: Hornets Delaware State. Y'all go with Hawaii.

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Speaker 1: There you go. That is week zero. Hit follow, hit subscribe.

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952
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Speaker 1: working very, very diligently to try and get the merch

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Speaker 2: It's good stuff. I like hap of the season.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you did a great job. I mean I can't

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Speaker 1: see color the way you can't.

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Speaker 2: I tried.

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Speaker 1: It was bad. My wife made fun of me. But

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Speaker 1: the designs look good. We're pretty excited about the direction

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Speaker 1: of things. We got a few more items that we

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Speaker 1: long we're gonna have a new merch store as well,

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Speaker 1: just in time for the college football season. She'll be great,

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Speaker 1: Dan Rubinstein, it was fun to do sort of this

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Speaker 1: walkthrough of a preview episode A great with you. We

974
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Speaker 1: have a few things we need to tidy up in

975
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:39,360
Speaker 1: time for week one.

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Speaker 2: Trust the process.

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Speaker 1: Our first episode of Big ten Breakfast Yeah by day

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Speaker 1: next Friday morning at nine am on YouTube as well.

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Speaker 1: But in the interim, Dan, we have to trust that process.

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Speaker 1: We have to gear up for a weekend of college football,

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Speaker 1: albeit a slimmer slate than usual, and just get ready

982
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Speaker 1: this season. Kick in the high gear.

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Speaker 2: I'm ready. I am ready. Eleven am, Central Ireland. Let's

984
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Speaker 2: roll for.

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Speaker 1: That guy over there, my good friend Dan Rubinstein, for myself,

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Speaker 1: Tie Hilton Brandt. Enjoy the games, everyone, We've waited for it.

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Speaker 2: Stay solid, peace,