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Speaker 1: Hello Texans, and welcome to the program that takes you

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Speaker 1: inside NRG Stadium. Unless we are outside NRG Stadium. It's

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Speaker 1: Mark Vandomer John Harris with you our Texans All Access

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Speaker 1: and it's the Hunday Texans Mobile Radio Studio as we

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Speaker 1: are all over the place, as we often are. Next

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Speaker 1: week is spring Break. Johnny's gonna host I think almost

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Speaker 1: all of those shows and I'll be on still no

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Speaker 1: matter where I am during spring break because I have

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Speaker 1: small children and you don't anymore, Johnny, your kids are

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Speaker 1: all like grown up down so yeah, they're older. I

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Speaker 1: don't know if I would say grown up. And sorry

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Speaker 1: I waved at the camera. I did all that because

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Speaker 1: you know that's what I do Withdrew on our in

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Speaker 1: their lab. Oh, I zoom call and so I always

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Speaker 1: always friendly to wave to the radio. So it really

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Speaker 1: doesn't do us much good. But I know I threw

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Speaker 1: It's like like like did I miss something there? So yeah,

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Speaker 1: so yeah, it's gonna be interesting. Yeah, it's it's all

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Speaker 1: good though, all right, So let's start here, Texans making

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Speaker 1: some official moves, you know, stuff like all right, we've

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Speaker 1: talked about it before because it was reported, but the

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Speaker 1: team didn't announce, for instance, Josh McCown being released, which

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Speaker 1: I find interesting because we all assumed, I know, we

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Speaker 1: by the team. Actually, we all assumed you would be

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Speaker 1: on the staff in some way, shape or form, and

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Speaker 1: I guess anything still possible. They have not announced the

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Speaker 1: final staff roster, but McCown for the moment is not

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Speaker 1: a Texan, not a player for any team, but not

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Speaker 1: a coach for any team. Your thoughts a kind of

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Speaker 1: a matter of time. It feels like it feels like

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Speaker 1: it's a matter of time, like he'll be back here,

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Speaker 1: and I hope that's the case. I finished Amazon, does

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Speaker 1: that show are nothing? And I've talked with you about

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Speaker 1: this and I actually we were doing a show last spring.

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Speaker 1: Maybe I can't remember. Anyway, I watched the twenty nineteen

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Speaker 1: show was on the Eagles, right, and if you remember

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Speaker 1: that season, Carson Wentz kind of gets hot at the

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Speaker 1: It's really cool to watch them get to the playoffs. Well,

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Speaker 1: Josh McCown was Carson Wentz his backup, and they showed

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Speaker 1: him at one point over the weekend, he would fly

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Speaker 1: yet he'd fly to Charlotte. He'd be there for his

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Speaker 1: son's football game. He coached the game. He'd get up

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Speaker 1: he'd be ready to go on Sunday. And they allowed

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Speaker 1: him to do that, and they had an episode kind

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Speaker 1: finally gets a playoff game, his hamstring is hurting, and

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Speaker 1: watching him in that whole season and how he responded

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Speaker 1: Texans while he was a player, kind of a player

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Speaker 1: Well I think that, Look, he'll have a chance to

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Speaker 1: And you know, you never know what he wants. Like

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Speaker 1: if you're an assistant coach, any kind of coach for

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Speaker 1: an NFL team Friday night, is it? Basically as far

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Speaker 1: as freedom during the fall, that's it. Right. In college

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Speaker 1: it's Thursday night, and the pros it's Friday night, and

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Speaker 1: wait a few years or what. All Right, other news,

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Speaker 1: the team officially announces the signings of Cornell Armstrong, Dontrelle Hilliard,

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Speaker 1: see him trying to find his way into the mix, Johnny,

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Speaker 1: But look, he can run. He's not the smallest guy

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Speaker 1: Man thirty eight. Corny, nice job. All right, you're watching

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Speaker 1: Armstrong is stringing one play after another, no matter who

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Speaker 1: a plus, no question. Like the running backs, We've talked

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Speaker 1: how Here's what they can do. Hilliard probably a little

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Speaker 1: bit more shape than Buddy. Buddy's more north south David.

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Speaker 1: We know it was kind of a dual threat all around.

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Speaker 1: He had a hundred yards in either receiving or rush

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Speaker 1: in the last three games. If he continues to do that, man,

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Speaker 1: let's go. I think in this running back class, you

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Speaker 1: So I think these guys will all have an opportunity

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Speaker 1: know that guy's consistent about his times. When he takes

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Speaker 1: the time. It's it's fairly consistent. I think there's a

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Speaker 1: definite art to it. And those are the guys you

429
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Speaker 1: tend to rely on. But you rely as a GM

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Speaker 1: a lot of times on Okay, who do we have

431
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Speaker 1: to pro day? What another pro day say? Does it

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Speaker 1: jive with the combine? That's gonna be the hard part,

433
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Speaker 1: because there's no combine. Pro Day comparison, you're just gonna

434
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Speaker 1: have to roll with it. And then the last and

435
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Speaker 1: certainly most important, is hey's that four three one? Does

436
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Speaker 1: he play that fast? You see that on tape? And

437
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Speaker 1: when you can say yes, then I think you can

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Speaker 1: validate that time. If you can't, then you're like, I

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Speaker 1: don't know, man, it's just raises too many questions. Maybe

440
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Speaker 1: that's a guy we want to not totally dive into,

441
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Speaker 1: or we've got to do more digging on it at

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Speaker 1: that point. And so then you go back and you

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Speaker 1: find out, yeah, he does play at four three one.

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Speaker 1: He can't flip his hips and run. This is legit, Okay,

445
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Speaker 1: he moves up aboard or whatever the case might be.

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Speaker 1: So Greg Newsom as a Texan would be very nice,

447
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Speaker 1: but he won't get to sixty seven. Well, it's funny.

448
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Speaker 1: Remind me of the Rookie with Dennis Quaid as Jim

449
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Speaker 1: Morris when the guys are measuring his pitch speed with

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Speaker 1: the radar guns behind the backstop and they're all looking

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Speaker 1: at each other like, what do you got? I got

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Speaker 1: ninety seven unbelieving guys wearing jeans, and the babies in

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Speaker 1: the pickup truck and the kids are back there and

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Speaker 1: Jim Morris is trying to make it. Great movie by

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Speaker 1: the way, folks, The Rookie with Dennis Quaid you can

456
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Speaker 1: watch with your kids. And John McClean is in it.

457
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Speaker 1: It's one of the ten movies he's in this time.

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Speaker 1: He's in it for three points seven seconds, so yeah,

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Speaker 1: he was in that. He's in that, Johnny. He's in

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Speaker 1: the product box. Where else would he be. He's in

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Speaker 1: the press box and he's given a He does some

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Speaker 1: acting in this movie, no speaking, a lot, no lines,

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Speaker 1: but McClean is like kind of giving a Oh my gosh,

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Speaker 1: I can't believe Jim Morris is doing this sort of

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Speaker 1: head bob and uh, it's good. It's good acting. By

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Speaker 1: the general. I like it. Yeah, I mean he's got

467
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Speaker 1: plenty of he's got plenty of pelts on the walls.

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Speaker 1: Who pertains to his movies. I just forgot that he

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Speaker 1: was in that one. I forgot the longest yard. Secretariat.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna miss a few here. Oh my gosh, I

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Speaker 1: have to admit this. I've not seen Secretariat invincible. Oh.

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Speaker 1: Secretary is right in the front row when they're doing

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Speaker 1: a press conference with Diane Lane, right that's it as

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Speaker 1: the owner of secretariat. It's cool stuff. I mean, you

475
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Speaker 1: got a head it to the general he is. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's invincible. I know that one. I've seen that. I've

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Speaker 1: seen that. I just I have to go back now

478
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Speaker 1: watch the rookie and find him. Yeah, he plays reporters,

479
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Speaker 1: which is a big stretch, but he does it well,

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Speaker 1: so that's good. Anyway, Coming up next, we're gonna play

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Speaker 1: the game we play just about every Tuesday. It's called

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Speaker 1: Who's Better? And on this week's edition, Yeah, quarterbacks come up.

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Speaker 1: They always do. Draft evaluators. John is gonna evaluate the

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Speaker 1: evaluators and local stadiums and or arenas. It's all coming

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Speaker 1: up next. Texans Radio, Mark Vandermaer and John Harris with

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Speaker 1: you Texans All Access. Great to have you aboard the

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Speaker 1: program tonight. We talked a lot about the Texans news

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Speaker 1: of the day, nothing earth shadow ring, some transactional stuff,

489
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Speaker 1: if you will. But let's get to the game that

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Speaker 1: we played just about every Tuesday. Here we call it

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Speaker 1: Who's Better? Johnny, I know you're ready, so let's do

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Speaker 1: it here. All right, now, you have to bear with

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Speaker 1: me here, Who's better? Carson Wentz or Ryan Tannehill. Now,

494
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Speaker 1: you're gonna want to say Tannehill. And when I say you,

495
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Speaker 1: I mean people listening driving They're gonna say, well, Tannehill, Mark,

496
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Speaker 1: I mean, come on, he's playing well with the Titans.

497
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Speaker 1: And look at Wentz. He's a disaster with Eagles. But

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Speaker 1: hold on for a moment. Wasn't Tannehill a disaster once

499
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Speaker 1: upon a time with the Miami Dolphins. There was a

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Speaker 1: reason why he was available in the first place. And

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Speaker 1: the Colts are they crazy like a fox here? Because

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Speaker 1: Wentz is talented. We've seen him play well. Now you're

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Speaker 1: with a good team and Wentz look where he was drafted. Now,

504
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Speaker 1: Tannehill was drafted pretty high too. But is Carson Wentz

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Speaker 1: potentially better than Ryan Tannehill? What do you say? You're right?

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Speaker 1: As soon as you hear it, you're like Tannehill, come on,

507
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Speaker 1: next question. But then you make you make a great case.

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Speaker 1: Tannehill was thought to be dead, Barry gone, he was

509
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Speaker 1: just it was nothing. And then Mariota's backup, Johnny Mariota's backup,

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Speaker 1: That's what he was. And there was no guarantee he

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Speaker 1: was gonna get this shot. But Mariota imploded and then

512
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Speaker 1: Tannehill takes over and here we have it, and you

513
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Speaker 1: just brought the big difference. Though. When Tannehill went to Tennessee,

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Speaker 1: there was no pressure on him. All pressure in the

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Speaker 1: world is on Carson Wentz. Yeah, so I think that

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Speaker 1: that there's one difference there. But Tennessee has had a

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Speaker 1: running game and Derrick Henry. The Colts have running game,

518
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Speaker 1: they have that offensive line, and they've got Jonathan Taylor.

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Speaker 1: He really had anybody to throw to A j Brown

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Speaker 1: was just a rookie. Corey Davis would really want that. Well,

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Speaker 1: the Colts have a rookie and Michael Pittman, and they've

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Speaker 1: got a couple of guys that have been banged up

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Speaker 1: they're waiting on. Okay, I could see that tight end titan,

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Speaker 1: said Johnny Smith, Jack Doyle, Moley Cox. Okay, they're kind

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Speaker 1: of similar in that regard. But the pressure that Carson

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Speaker 1: Wentz is going to feel in how he deals with that,

527
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Speaker 1: to me, is going to be the difference. I think

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Speaker 1: that Carson Wentz if I just went on kind of

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Speaker 1: what I thought of them coming out of college, because

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Speaker 1: as they went through their careers, look, Tannel had some

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Speaker 1: successful moments in Miami Wentz had some successful moments in Philadelphia.

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Speaker 1: They probably had about the equal equal amount, and both

533
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Speaker 1: of them got hurt. It was tough in those first stops.

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Speaker 1: I think Wentz more talented overall, more physically gifted as

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Speaker 1: a quarterback, not by much, but enough that I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: say Carson Wentz. Okay, next, who's better? Who's better Mel

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Speaker 1: Kiper or Todd McShay As a draft evaluator, Who's better

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Speaker 1: Kuiper or McShane. What are your thoughts? And is there

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Speaker 1: somebody else you want to throw in there as a

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Speaker 1: third party to all this? Because one of those guys

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Speaker 1: are an ESPM. I think that I think Daniel Jeremiah's outstanding.

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Speaker 1: Now you know, I'm biased to one of them individuals

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Speaker 1: because we've been long for you know, long time friends

544
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Speaker 1: as LANs Airline, and we grew up doing this stuff.

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Speaker 1: So I'm biased, but I think DJ's outstanding. But if

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Speaker 1: I've got to pick between Kiper and Mick shay yep,

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Speaker 1: I would trust Kiper a little bit more than I

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Speaker 1: would show. And I say that because Kiper over the

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Speaker 1: years is actually to me gotten a little bit better

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Speaker 1: with this evaluation. But Kiper also talks to everybody, and

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Speaker 1: so I know a lot of the stuff that he

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Speaker 1: is talking about he's gotten from people. But he's talking

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Speaker 1: to people in the business, he's talking to gms, he's

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Speaker 1: talking to scouts. And then obviously over the years he's

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Speaker 1: learned to know trust himself and what he sees. And

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Speaker 1: so I've kind of flip flopped for a long time.

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Speaker 1: I thought I was a mixed shay, but I think

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Speaker 1: over the last five to seven years I would go

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Speaker 1: back towards Kuiper. In large part to me, that kind

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Speaker 1: of sells me is the fact that Mel talks to

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Speaker 1: as many people as he does, and at that point

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Speaker 1: I would go with Mel Kuiper. I've heard mcchey say

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Speaker 1: some things and I'm like, that did not just come

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Speaker 1: out of his mouth, did it? Is he crazy? That's not? Oh,

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Speaker 1: no way, I've not said that. With Kiper. I can

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Speaker 1: listen to Kuiper and go, yeah, okay, I can see that.

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Speaker 1: I gotta hand it to Kuiper because he basically invented

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Speaker 1: the industry as a national thing, right. I know locals

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Speaker 1: we'll talk about Joel Bushbaum and how great he was

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Speaker 1: and everything, And I know that people in Houston loved

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Speaker 1: him and beyond no doubt about it. But Kiper is

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Speaker 1: the guy. He's he's the little guru. And look, I

573
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Speaker 1: can't grade everything they've done over time, but I just

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Speaker 1: have to give him a special place in broadcast history

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Speaker 1: for what he's done to this particular part of the industry.

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Speaker 1: But you know, we love you the best and the

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Speaker 1: Harris one hundred, of course. All right, two's better here, Johnny?

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Speaker 1: Who's better? The Bengals with Joe Burrow or the Jags

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Speaker 1: with Trevor Lawrence. Now you get Obviously, the Bengals have

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Speaker 1: a headstart with Burrow even though he got hurt. So

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Speaker 1: they have a headstart though, and look, they showed some

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Speaker 1: promise even without Burrow at times. But I want you

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Speaker 1: to answer this because here are the Bengals, Okay, Zach

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Speaker 1: Taylor the head coach, They got Burrow coming back from

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Speaker 1: the injury. They're good to go, it would seem. But

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Speaker 1: the Jacks Urban Meyer coaching, Trevor Lawrence potentially playing for them.

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Speaker 1: Your thoughts. I'd like the Bengals, man, I know that

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Speaker 1: we saw them we what sixteen and it was Bryandon

589
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Speaker 1: Allen playing. But man, offensively, I felt like and they

590
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Speaker 1: didn't have Joe Mixon, they didn't have Joe Burrow, they

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Speaker 1: didn't have Jonah Williams. Right, they're obviously gonna make a

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Speaker 1: pick in number five, which I would think is offense

593
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Speaker 1: offensively drimmed. You know, Jesse Bates is one of the

594
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Speaker 1: better safeties in the league. I think there are more

595
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Speaker 1: complete pieces in Cincinnati. I do think the Jags will

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Speaker 1: get there. I don't think the Jags are there. They've

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Speaker 1: got Josh Allen, They've got DJ Chark. I think their

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Speaker 1: offensive line is okay. We found out today they're gonna

599
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Speaker 1: franchise Cam Robinson, which was a bit of a surprise.

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Speaker 1: But I think I would say right now the Bengals, gosh,

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Speaker 1: you know, it kind of goes back to your point

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Speaker 1: of Trevor Lawrence. You have a feeling you know what

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Speaker 1: you're gonna get from him, and with James Robinson, Okay,

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Speaker 1: they got DJ Chark and A yeah, I don't know,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I love everybody else. The viscous Shinalt

606
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Speaker 1: would be interesting. They do ever running game, but to

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Speaker 1: say he's got a running game with Joe Mixon, they've

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Speaker 1: got the wide receivers and T Higgins Tyler Boyd very

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Speaker 1: very good man. If they d have to guy that

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Speaker 1: Kyle Pitts the thrown at mix, I think that's who

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Speaker 1: I gave them in the in the mock draft. My goodness,

612
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Speaker 1: that offense could go from yeah, pretty fun to watch, two, Oh,

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Speaker 1: my god, really good. So I'm gonna go Bengals by

614
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Speaker 1: a hair right now. All right, I might include both

615
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 1: those teams that I'm more likely to happen question later

616
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Speaker 1: on in the week. But let me ask you this

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Speaker 1: very quickly. Burrow and Lawrence going into their respective drafts

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00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 1: higher rated prospect Lawrence Trevor Trevor not by a whole lot.

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Speaker 1: In fact, I was looking at my Harris one hundred

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Speaker 1: from last year. I think Burrow was. I think I

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Speaker 1: had him three or four. Maybe Chase Young was one.

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Speaker 1: I know that maybe Burrows three or four. I think

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Speaker 1: in that mix, I've got Trevor number one. Trevor. I

624
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Speaker 1: had Trevor number one after I saw him as a freshman,

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Speaker 1: So I kind of feeling, Okay, a few years from

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Speaker 1: now he'll be the number one guy, just like DJU

627
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Speaker 1: is going to be the number one guy a couple

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Speaker 1: of years from now. I wouldn't that be a fun

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Speaker 1: name to say over, yes, over and over again. I

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Speaker 1: will start practicing immediately. Next Who's better? In the final

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Speaker 1: one for today, who's better sports venues in Houston n

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Speaker 1: RG Stadium, Minute Made Park or Toyota Center. It doesn't

633
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Speaker 1: matter how the teams are performing, it's just better sports

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Speaker 1: venue for that sport. Now, this is a tough one

635
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 1: to answer, but I just love the conversation. I think

636
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 1: it's fun. I it's I mean, obviously our office where

637
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 1: we live as an energy stadium, so that's tough. Minimate

638
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 1: Park is as cool a place to watch a baseball

639
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 1: game as I've ever been. When that roof is open

640
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 1: and it's a beautiful night, it's as fun a place

641
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 1: to watch a game. I love watching a game from

642
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 1: Minnimate Park. When I first got into business back in

643
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 1: two thousand and seven, when I met you in two

644
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 1: thousand and seven, we were up in the press the

645
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 1: press box that made Made Park was right now where

646
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 1: the Diamond Club is, yep. And it was I when

647
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 1: I would get from where the Inspiraity Club, Yes, Inspirity Club,

648
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. I loved covering games. Loved it because it

649
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 1: was the best seat. No doubt in the house, no

650
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 1: doubt the best in the house. And when that roof

651
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 1: was open is open, I just think that's such a

652
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 1: cool place to watch a game. It feels intimate, yet

653
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:08,720
Speaker 1: what the roof open, it feels sort of spacious. So

654
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 1: I minimated park. I can't. I can't pick against Energy Stadium.

655
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 1: I love a game full of fans at NRG Stadium,

656
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:19,840
Speaker 1: and for a football game, it's just magnificent, minimate park

657
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 1: for baseball game as cool as all get out. I've

658
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 1: only you know, it's funny. I've only been to a

659
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 1: gosh a couple of a few handful of Rockets games,

660
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 1: and so I don't have too much in basis comparison,

661
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 1: other than we went to Bankers Life Field House. Is

662
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:40,479
Speaker 1: that what it's called Indian Apple's Place. Was unbelievably love

663
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 1: that place. That's such a great place. That might be

664
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 1: the best NBA modern NBA arena. I've been at the

665
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 1: best NBA arena. I've been to his Madison Square Garden.

666
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 1: I just think there's something about that place. Obviously the tradition,

667
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 1: and it just feels right when you're in there. And

668
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 1: I've done some Big East Tournament games in there, and

669
00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 1: it's just a tremendous basketball It is the Mecca. It's

670
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 1: a tremendous basketball arena. But as far as locals look,

671
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 1: I'm partial to NRG Stadium. I've always thought that from

672
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:09,399
Speaker 1: the time I first toured it, before it was even open,

673
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 1: I thought this place is awesome because the sightlines are

674
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:15,279
Speaker 1: terrific from wherever you're sitting, you know, and I sit

675
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 1: higher than anybody, and I don't complain. I just think

676
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:21,399
Speaker 1: it's a tremendous view we get. I've used the word

677
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 1: tremendous a lot. It's a great view we get, and

678
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:27,400
Speaker 1: I'm all over it all Right, one more segment. There's

679
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:30,360
Speaker 1: plenty of stuff around the league to sink our teeth

680
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 1: into a lot of people making moves with free agency

681
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:37,359
Speaker 1: in the league year, starting on the horizon, what's going

682
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:40,840
Speaker 1: on north of us on forty five. We'll get to

683
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 1: all of it next on Texans Radio. Great to have

684
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 1: your board, Texans All Access, Mark Vandermayer and John Harris

685
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:50,360
Speaker 1: with you. Okay, Johnny, let's go around the league here

686
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:52,880
Speaker 1: a little bit. We went over Texans transactions earlier in

687
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 1: the show. We did Who's Better in the second segment.

688
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 1: Right now, stuff around the league, and Dak Prescott gets

689
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 1: his deal, so good for him. We don't talk much

690
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 1: about contracts on this particular show, but you know, we

691
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:08,239
Speaker 1: like Dak. It's funny because I'm no Cowboy fan, you

692
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:12,440
Speaker 1: know this at all, but I just I kind of

693
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:15,440
Speaker 1: like the guy. He's a likable guy, and good for

694
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 1: him that he signed with him. And this is where

695
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 1: I remind everybody that the Texans actually more playoff wins

696
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 1: than the Cowboys do since the Texans joined the league.

697
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 1: We're talking nineteen seasons here, That's how tough it's been

698
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 1: for the Cowboys since what the mid nineties. Yeah, I

699
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 1: just thought i'd throw that in there for fun. It's fun.

700
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:35,719
Speaker 1: It was fun to bring that, bring that up. I

701
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 1: love Dak. In fact, at the Senior Bowl, I had

702
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 1: a chance to interview Dak one on one and he

703
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:44,880
Speaker 1: was awesome. I mean, he just he could not have

704
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 1: been better. And at that time, we were still looking

705
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:50,840
Speaker 1: for a quarterback and I felt like, boy, he'd be

706
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 1: a really good fit in Houston for a lot of

707
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 1: different reasons. You know, Dan mullen was was close with

708
00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:59,760
Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien and they worked it, you know, in conjunction

709
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:02,839
Speaker 1: with one another for a long long time, and Mull

710
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 1: was a Northeastern guy, so they kind of clicked, and

711
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 1: so I thought, man, you know, maybe there's a connection there,

712
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 1: maybe Dak would be a guy for us. And then

713
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:11,400
Speaker 1: we ended up, you know, signing Brock that year, and

714
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:14,880
Speaker 1: Dak goes to Dallas and Tony Rommo gets hurt, and

715
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 1: you know, the rest is history. I'll be interested to

716
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 1: see how Dak's game evolves coming off the injury that

717
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 1: he had last year. But if there's a player that

718
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:28,720
Speaker 1: I cheer for, and I don't cheer for his logo,

719
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 1: I don't cheer for his team, but if there's a

720
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:34,239
Speaker 1: player I cheer for, it's Dak Prescott. I love the guy.

721
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 1: I think he's everything that's good about the NFL, and

722
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 1: I think him getting out of money. I loved it.

723
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 1: I loved seeing it for him his family. I know

724
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 1: there's been some some really true, you know, tough things

725
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 1: that Prescott family has gone through recently, and Dak has

726
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 1: been very vocal about it, and I'm glad he has

727
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:55,279
Speaker 1: because it's helped a lot of people. And I was

728
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 1: glad to see him stay in the Metroplex. So I'm

729
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 1: glad for Dak. Happy for Dak, not so happy for

730
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:03,239
Speaker 1: Kyboy's fans. But you know, it is what it is.

731
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 1: We'll go with it. I like Dak so good for him.

732
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 1: They finally got it done. They should have got it

733
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 1: done last year and it probably would not have been

734
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 1: as costly, but they probably here, this is what happens.

735
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 1: Guy gets hurt, your team goes three and seven without you.

736
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:21,759
Speaker 1: You go, hey, he's probably more valuable than we thought.

737
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:24,719
Speaker 1: Here's more money then there you go. Yeah, that did

738
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 1: work out for him in that way for sure. And

739
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:30,280
Speaker 1: they also put the tag on him for contractual reasons

740
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:32,800
Speaker 1: that we won't get into right now. All right, So

741
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:38,799
Speaker 1: the Titans Jayon Brown medically cleared to participate in football activities.

742
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:42,440
Speaker 1: And what else did the Titans do today? I'm right now.

743
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:49,920
Speaker 1: They they released one Malcolm Butler. So I ask you,

744
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:54,759
Speaker 1: Mark Vannim here, yes or no? I you know, I

745
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 1: think they want to go younger. I just have this

746
00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 1: feeling about the Texas that they want to go younger

747
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 1: than Malcolm Butler at this particular stage of their development.

748
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:06,359
Speaker 1: Does he really solve your problems? We didn't really think. Look,

749
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:09,480
Speaker 1: he plays hard, There's no doubt there's effort there with

750
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 1: Malcolm Butler, but does he have the speed and coverage

751
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 1: ability you want? Now? It might be a beggars can't

752
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:17,799
Speaker 1: be choosers situation. You want to get better in the secondary.

753
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 1: Is he better than a lot of guys that you

754
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:22,919
Speaker 1: were looking at anyway or that you have? And does

755
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 1: he make you an improved secondary, especially at the cornerback position.

756
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:30,439
Speaker 1: You got to evaluate those things, Johnny, what do you think?

757
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:35,479
Speaker 1: I I don't know that he makes you appreciably better.

758
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 1: But the business of football, at this point he's released.

759
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 1: How expensive will he be to bring him on? Can

760
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 1: you find one more year? You know? Can you find

761
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 1: one more really good year like twenty fifteen when he

762
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:53,319
Speaker 1: was really really good? Twenty sixteen we saw him up close,

763
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:57,280
Speaker 1: a very very good player, no doubt. I think it started.

764
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 1: The cracks started showing in twenty seventeen playing at Super Bowl.

765
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 1: Then he goes to Tennessee, and in Tennessee, I don't

766
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:06,320
Speaker 1: know that I ever saw the Malcolm Butler that we

767
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 1: saw in New England. But you know that nickos Sario

768
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:12,640
Speaker 1: has experienced with him. You know that, um, you know

769
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 1: they know him obviously from up in New England. So

770
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 1: is there is there something there that they're like, Hey,

771
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:24,320
Speaker 1: I think maybe we can not get hometown discount. But

772
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 1: he knows us, we know him. Maybe there's something there.

773
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 1: And he comes in and again he's added to the mix.

774
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 1: He doesn't have to be the number one corner. He

775
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 1: just got to be solid. And I think in Tennessee

776
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 1: it just had gotten a point where it wasn't it

777
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:41,479
Speaker 1: wasn't working out anymore. It did fit so I didn't

778
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:44,719
Speaker 1: have any problems during games when we would attack his side,

779
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:46,319
Speaker 1: but that was attacking with one of the best school

780
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:48,920
Speaker 1: seaters in the league and Will Fuller. So I think

781
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:52,759
Speaker 1: he would make the secondary better. I just don't know

782
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:57,799
Speaker 1: that he makes it appreciably better. Trent Brown going back

783
00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:02,360
Speaker 1: to New England via tru aid from the Raiders. And

784
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 1: remember when they acquired him, a lot of people thought,

785
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:07,320
Speaker 1: why did you sign Trent Brown to the Houston Texans.

786
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:09,239
Speaker 1: He ends up being a right tackle. They're not a

787
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:12,239
Speaker 1: left tackle. They still haven't made the postseason with him

788
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:16,359
Speaker 1: right and what do you think because he's going back

789
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:20,359
Speaker 1: to the Patriots. Also, they will not tag Joe Tuney, Yeah,

790
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:25,280
Speaker 1: which there were some surprising tag announcements today the Saints

791
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:27,320
Speaker 1: are sixty million over the cap and they just tagged

792
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 1: Marcus Williams. I'm like, okay, so that was kind of surprised.

793
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:35,760
Speaker 1: Brandon Shriff being tagged by the Red. The Washington football

794
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:38,319
Speaker 1: team almost did it. I thought the Patriots would tag

795
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:41,839
Speaker 1: Joe Tuney. But again, I mean, that's a decent chunk

796
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 1: of change that they're just they've gotten in the in

797
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 1: the mode they've been doing it for twenty plus years

798
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:50,239
Speaker 1: with Belichick. They're just not gonna overpay for high price

799
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 1: free agents. You gotta go, you gotta go. Logan Mankins

800
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 1: was the same way and got to the point where

801
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:56,719
Speaker 1: it's just too expensive. Logan go ahead, well we're gonna

802
00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 1: trade your Tampa base. You can go get a big contract.

803
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 1: Chandler Jones, same thing. So somebody's gonna get a really

804
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 1: good football player. And Joe Tony. I was a little

805
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 1: bit surprised. But Trent Brown going back, tells you one

806
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:11,759
Speaker 1: of two things that they don't believe in Isaiah Win,

807
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:13,839
Speaker 1: who was the first round pick a couple of years ago.

808
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 1: Remember that Patriots had two first round picks, Isaiah Win

809
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 1: and Sony Michelle. And you know Sony had a good

810
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 1: rookie year, but since it's not been great. Yeah, so

811
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 1: now they get Trent Brown back, We'll see what they do.

812
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:31,320
Speaker 1: Isaiah Win, he can always go into guard. But it

813
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 1: just kind of goes to show you can have a

814
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 1: couple of couple of draft picks in the first round. Boy,

815
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 1: if you don't hit on him. And injuries were a

816
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 1: factor for both of them. I will say for Win

817
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 1: and Michelle, but Trent Brown going back for not only

818
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:48,760
Speaker 1: picks not this year, but next year, it's next year's picks.

819
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 1: So essentially the Patriots are kind of getting him what's

820
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 1: the what's the word I'm looking for here? The Patriots

821
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 1: are like spinning him and bringing him back, and they

822
00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:00,719
Speaker 1: really did. It's like almost no cost to them in

823
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 1: some sense. It's crazy how they've done that. Now we'll

824
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 1: see if you can still play. But if he can

825
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 1: now the Patriots, well they just got one up on

826
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 1: the Raiders, which is not surprising. That's like no payments

827
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 1: for the first six months or zero percent down, that

828
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 1: kind of thing. They're delaying the pain. All right, Johnny,

829
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 1: we'll text a lot. We'll be backing on tomorrow. We

830
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 1: appreciate it. Got Mark, Thank you all. Right tomorrow. John

831
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 1: Harris hosts on Draft Wednesday, so we'll go over that,

832
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 1: and Johnny and I are gonna catch up with John

833
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 1: Bernard real soon. You're gonna hear that on Texans Radio

834
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 1: Deep City with Ross Blacklock. We got all that coming up.

835
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:40,799
Speaker 1: It's gonna be so awesome. Just keep it here weeknights

836
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 1: six to seven pm and keep it on Sports Radio

837
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 1: sixteen all day long. Have a great evening everyone, and

838
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 1: go Texans.