1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:04,280 Speaker 1: Jackie Robinson, Roberto Clemente, Shoho Tani. These guys were and 2 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:06,640 Speaker 1: are just amazing to watch it. 3 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 2: Welcome everyone to the Thursday edition of Fair Territory. I'm 4 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 2: Ken Rosenthal here with Alana Rizzo. We are smacked in 5 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 2: the middle of both league championship series, both teams or 6 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:22,800 Speaker 2: both series resumed today Game four of the NLCS, Game 7 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 2: three of the ALCS. 8 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 1: Alana, We've got a lot to discuss, we do. 9 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 3: Ken, great to be with you as always. Let's get 10 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:31,640 Speaker 3: right to it as we go to the league. What 11 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 3: Walker Buller did yesterday, Ken, he looked exactly the way 12 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:38,240 Speaker 3: they needed him to look in that big Game three victory. 13 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 1: He did, and it's funny. In the postgame interview I 14 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:43,839 Speaker 1: did with him, Alana, he said, because it was cold 15 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:47,240 Speaker 1: and windy, the ball was moving all over the place, 16 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 1: he couldn't believe some of his metrics. He had, of 17 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:52,479 Speaker 1: course already seen them, and I thought that was very interesting. 18 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 1: For one thing, But once he got on the mound, 19 00:00:56,840 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 1: and obviously the Dodgers had this great trust in him 20 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 1: and see him not dominating the way he once did, 21 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 1: but really mixing up his pitches. Of course, he went 22 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 1: to the stretch early in this game, full time. It 23 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 1: was creative, it was imaginative, it was everything he needed 24 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 1: to be at this point of his evolution. Remember, he's 25 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:19,319 Speaker 1: coming off his second Tommy John surgery. He's not the 26 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 1: four seam fastball monster he used to be. He cannot 27 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:25,680 Speaker 1: bully hitters the way he used to, but in his 28 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 1: own way he did last night. And yeah, it was 29 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 1: a really impressive performance by Bueler. 30 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 3: Four innings of shut out baseball. That's exactly what you 31 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 3: could hope for. And what is this that you said, Ken, 32 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:41,040 Speaker 3: that Keiy k Hernandez reminded you of a right handed 33 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 3: David Ortiz. 34 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 4: Explain yourself, Rosenthal. 35 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 1: Well, I wrote this this morning, Alana, in my call 36 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 1: about key k Hernandez and his meaning to the Dodgers. 37 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 1: And what I was talking about was his fifteen postseason 38 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 1: home runs, his overall postseason numbers, which dwarf his regular 39 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 1: season numbers. And I advise anyone who says, Ken, you're 40 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 1: an idiot. This happens virtually every day. I advise anyone 41 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 1: who says that, including maybe even some people working on 42 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 1: our show, to go look at Keyk's postseason numbers, and 43 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 1: go look at David Ortiz's postseason numbers. The amazing thing 44 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:18,920 Speaker 1: about KEYK. This isn't a small sample. He's got like 45 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 1: two hundred and twenty postseason played appearances, or Tez had more, 46 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 1: and he had more, of course accomplishments, but Key K 47 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 1: is a monster in the postseason. And we saw it 48 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 1: again with the big home run last night to make 49 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 1: it for nothing. We saw it in Game five of 50 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:36,679 Speaker 1: the DS, the winner take all game in which he 51 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:39,919 Speaker 1: got the Dodgers the lead. This guy in the postseason 52 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 1: is a different cat. He plays all over the field 53 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 1: and my goodness, it's really something to see. And for 54 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 1: four million dollars, he's proven quite the bargain. 55 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, postseason Kik is a very different Kik. And you 56 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 3: mentioned the comparison there to David Ortiz, obviously a Hall 57 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:57,360 Speaker 3: of Famer, and also Ken you can compare him to 58 00:02:57,520 --> 00:02:59,800 Speaker 3: probably a future Hall of Famer when it comes to 59 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 3: the postseason, because you look at Aaron Judges plate appearances 60 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:05,359 Speaker 3: in the playoffs two hundred and twenty four, KEYK has 61 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 3: the exact same amount and actually the home runs, the 62 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 3: RBI and the ops only in the postseason, not comparing 63 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 3: the two players overall, but only in the postseason. It 64 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 3: actually favors Kei k Hernandez, So he is no disrespect 65 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:21,839 Speaker 3: to Reggie Jackson. But today's mister October. Okay, let's talk 66 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 3: about the decision that Carlos Mendoza and the Mets organization 67 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 3: had with going with j D Martinez over Jesse winker Ken. 68 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:31,800 Speaker 4: In Game three. What do you what's your takeaway from that? 69 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 1: They felt that they wanted to get JD back involved. 70 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 1: He's been a big part of their team. Obviously, he's 71 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 1: hit right handers and left handers throughout his career. Wasn't 72 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 1: going to be an issue for him. But yes, people 73 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 1: are going to question what Mendoza should do with his lineup. 74 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 1: They were already questioning me media was at least after 75 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 1: last night's game. And he is pretty adamant that he's 76 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 1: going to go with his right handed lineup again tonight 77 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 1: because Yamamoto is a reverse splits pitcher. Right he's are 78 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 1: going to be faring better than lefties, and that's the 79 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 1: way Mendozi is going to go about it. Iglesias is 80 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 1: going to be in there as well. I expect Francisco 81 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 1: Alparez is going to be there as well, So that 82 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 1: is where his decision making was last night. It'll be 83 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 1: interesting to see if that is indeed the lineup he 84 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 1: rolls out there. But because of Yamamoto's reverse splits, he 85 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 1: is going to or at least his plan was to 86 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 1: play his right handed hitters. 87 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:24,360 Speaker 3: All right, Well, the Mets have done a great job 88 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:26,920 Speaker 3: all season long, especially when they got hot of you know, 89 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 3: getting back up and punching back when they've been punched. 90 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:32,679 Speaker 3: They have an opportunity to even up the series tonight 91 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 3: in City Field. Let's switch our focus now from the 92 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 3: NLCS to the Alcs, and that series switches locations back 93 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 3: to Cleveland. But they go back to Cleveland, can down 94 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:45,919 Speaker 3: to the Cleveland Guardians do and it looks like, you know, 95 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 3: the Yankees are doing more than just holding serve. It 96 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:51,160 Speaker 3: just seems like Cleveland's a bit overmatched in this series. 97 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:52,359 Speaker 3: Is that a fair assessment? 98 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 1: I think it is right now, and I would think 99 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 1: even a Guardians fan would say that right now. Now 100 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 1: it goes back to Cleveland, They've got Matthew Boyd on 101 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:04,040 Speaker 1: the mounds. Who knows, maybe this can turn. The problem 102 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:06,600 Speaker 1: I have with the Guardians right now is twofold one 103 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:09,279 Speaker 1: their offense is simply not at the level that you 104 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 1: would want an ALCS team to be. Yet that was 105 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:14,279 Speaker 1: the problem the Tigers had, it was the problem the 106 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:16,920 Speaker 1: Royals had. It's the problem the Guardians had too. These 107 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 1: are below average offenses at best or average offenses. The 108 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 1: other problem, in my view is I understand why Vote 109 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 1: managed so aggressively in Game two, pulling Baby after what 110 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 1: thirty nine pitches, But you're compromising yourself perhaps for later 111 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:34,920 Speaker 1: in this series. Now I know there was an off 112 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:37,159 Speaker 1: day coming off Game two, so he can empty his 113 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:40,599 Speaker 1: bullpen and feel confident. Well, now he's got three straight 114 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:44,479 Speaker 1: days of games. And Tom Berducci has mentioned this on 115 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:47,480 Speaker 1: the broadcast with regard to how the Dodgers have handled 116 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:51,599 Speaker 1: their bullpen, they have been careful not to expose specific 117 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:55,119 Speaker 1: relievers to the same pocket of hitters over and over again. 118 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 1: The Guardians are going to run this risk, and they've 119 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:00,720 Speaker 1: got a great bullpen class and Kate Smith, my goodness, 120 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 1: Hunter Gaddis, Tim Herring, all these guys are terrific, But 121 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 1: you're going to the well in my mind too soon 122 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 1: and too often. So they need more out of Boyd 123 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 1: today than what they do in Game four. Probably Gavin Williams, 124 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:18,279 Speaker 1: who is another guy that has just been up and 125 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 1: down this season. Starting pitching has been their buggaboo ever 126 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 1: since Bieber got hurt to start the season. Tristan McKenzie 127 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 1: of course had to go to the miners. You understand 128 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:29,920 Speaker 1: where they're at, You understand why he's doing this. I 129 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:32,599 Speaker 1: just wonder if there's a tax he pays with his 130 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:34,840 Speaker 1: bullpen usage as this series goes on. 131 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 3: Well, Alex Cobb goes in Game one Ken and then 132 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:40,159 Speaker 3: he gets pulled relatively early. Now he's not even on 133 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 3: the alc roster anymore. They had to replace him with 134 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 3: Ben Lively, and then you had, as you mentioned, Tanner 135 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:50,280 Speaker 3: Biby gets pulled after fewer than forty pitchers. What is 136 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:53,840 Speaker 3: the likelihood that Matthew Boyd can go deep into this game? 137 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:56,480 Speaker 3: They need him to, but from what you've seen so far, 138 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 3: that really hasn't been their mantra all season long. 139 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:01,839 Speaker 1: It's the definition of deep this October. 140 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:03,159 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's true too, and. 141 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:08,840 Speaker 1: There's averaging just over three innings per start in the postseason. 142 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 1: Deep for them would be five innings, I would say 143 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 1: for Matthew Boyd, and that is probably realistic for him. 144 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 1: It's tough against the Yankees lineup. They grind you down, 145 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 1: of course, and they're really good, but that, in my mind, 146 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 1: with three games and three days ahead of them, is 147 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 1: almost the bare minimum of what they need. Now we'll 148 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 1: see how they go about it, and maybe it's one 149 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 1: game at a time, and votes feels, you know what, 150 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 1: if I can steal this one, pulling Boyd after three 151 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 1: and a third, I'll do it. Okay, I get it. 152 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 1: It just seems to me that you're running a race 153 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 1: against time that you're not going to win. 154 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 4: Can I ask you a quick question before we go 155 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 4: to break here? Ken? 156 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 3: It almost seems like this is as a mismatch rather 157 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 3: between the Guardians and the Yankees, obviously the Mets and 158 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 3: the Dodgers' big payroll teams as well. 159 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 4: Is this a bad look? 160 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 1: That's a good question, And I will say this. I'm 161 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 1: gonna dodge it a little bit and then I'll get 162 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 1: back to it. What is a bad look right now? 163 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 1: Is all this bullpenning? I don't know that this is 164 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 1: We've talked all season, we've written all season about the 165 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 1: need for the sport to restore starting pitching. I would 166 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 1: say that's true in the series that I'm on and that, 167 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 1: of course you're covering closely the NLCS. What we're seeing 168 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 1: is the team that gets the lead in the first 169 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 1: four innings is going to win the game, and kind 170 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 1: of in a route because the bullpen's come into play, 171 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 1: and look out, the bullpens are good enough, at least 172 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 1: the Mats has been so far. Now, the Cleveland, New 173 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 1: York thing, disparity in payrolls, that's certainly an issue. I 174 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:41,440 Speaker 1: don't know that it's a bad look to me. The 175 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 1: Cleveland Guardians had a great year. They've always been challenged 176 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 1: with their rotation, They've had an amazing bullpen. They're just 177 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 1: a little bit short when compared to the Yankees. Now, 178 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 1: I know, if we get to a World Series where 179 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 1: either the Yankees, well, where the Yankees are involved with 180 00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:58,839 Speaker 1: either of the Mets r Dodgers, people are gonna scream 181 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 1: about payrolls again, even though in the past several years 182 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 1: we have not seen the highest payroll teams win. So 183 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:08,560 Speaker 1: it's a fair question. I don't really know the answer 184 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 1: to that. If I'm a Guardians fan, sure, I'm frustrated that, hey, 185 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 1: I couldn't keep Francisco Lindor for starters, but At the 186 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 1: same time, these teams have competed well in the past 187 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 1: and right now the Guardians are just a little bit short. 188 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 1: Injuries have played a part in that other reasons as well. 189 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 1: They're not a team that spends. They're a team that's 190 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 1: had issues with their future local television revenue like a 191 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 1: number of clubs. It's not a fair fight, no one 192 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:36,199 Speaker 1: would pretend that it is. At the same time, that 193 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:38,440 Speaker 1: doesn't mean the Guardians could not have won this series, 194 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 1: and it doesn't also mean that they could just play 195 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 1: the way they've played and be satisfied with that. They 196 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 1: haven't played all that well. 197 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 3: That's exactly my point was going to be that they 198 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 3: need to play up to their capabilities and they're just 199 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 3: not playing the way that they have been in the past, 200 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:55,679 Speaker 3: a little bit more sloppy and certainly not capitalizing when 201 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 3: they've had the opportunities. 202 00:09:57,160 --> 00:09:58,079 Speaker 4: Well, it's the. 203 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:00,960 Speaker 3: Postseason, it's the best time of year and foul Territory 204 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:03,199 Speaker 3: wants you to be a part of a watch party 205 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 3: that they are having. So take a look at this 206 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:08,439 Speaker 3: as to what we're doing. It's the postseason watch party. 207 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:11,720 Speaker 3: It's gonna take place tomorrow night for ALCS Game four. 208 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 3: It's eight pm Eastern, live on YouTube. Special guests Brent Brooker, 209 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 3: Vinnie Pasquentino. We're going to guest host, so we certainly 210 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 3: hope that you will join us for that. The ALCS 211 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 3: game for Watch Party Friday, eight pm Eastern, That is 212 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:28,959 Speaker 3: live on YouTube. 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And before 239 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:44,560 Speaker 3: we get to the questions in the chat, can I 240 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 3: want to ask you because you have you wear so 241 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:50,440 Speaker 3: many different hats. Obviously, your insider hat is very different 242 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 3: than your breaking noose hat is very different than your 243 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 3: reporting hat. So what is the information gathering process like 244 00:11:57,360 --> 00:11:59,959 Speaker 3: when you're doing these in game hits and when you're 245 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 3: preparing to do on field reporting duties. 246 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 1: Wow, it's a combination of everything that I've done during 247 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 1: the year. And I will report things that I've heard 248 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:13,959 Speaker 1: during the season, the regular season, things I've picked up, 249 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:17,199 Speaker 1: things also that I've picked up during a particular series 250 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 1: I'll go to the workout days and search for little 251 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 1: tidbits there, and sometimes they come in rather handy. Last night, 252 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:26,960 Speaker 1: for instance, I talked about how Jeremy Hefner, the Met's 253 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:29,959 Speaker 1: pitching coach, was frustrated with the eight walks that they 254 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 1: had in Game two, frustrated with the walks in general, 255 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 1: but realizing that the Dodgers this is what they do. 256 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 1: And I'd picked that up at the workout the night before, 257 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 1: just talking to him about how to go about handling 258 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 1: the Dodgers. So it kind of comes from all places. 259 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:48,439 Speaker 1: I also will make phone calls to farm directors, agents, 260 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 1: all kinds of people, just trying to get any tidbits 261 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 1: I can that will be useful on air, and many times, Alana, 262 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 1: there's a crossover. Stuff I will try to get for 263 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:02,320 Speaker 1: on air is stuff I will ultimately use in articles. 264 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:05,559 Speaker 1: An example was today I talked about that exchange between 265 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:09,440 Speaker 1: Keke Hernandez and Jesse Winker in Game two, and actually 266 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:12,200 Speaker 1: our stage manager, a guy named Dan Frank, picked that up. 267 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:14,679 Speaker 1: He saw that on the field and he said, hey, 268 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 1: what's going on with those guys? So I asked Jesse 269 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 1: the next day and he said, oh, no, it wasn't 270 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 1: like me and adamis. I was just saying, hey, that 271 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 1: was a great play man, and it didn't make air 272 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:26,720 Speaker 1: because we didn't have video of it. But I got 273 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:29,679 Speaker 1: it into the column today. So it kind of is 274 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 1: just a gathering process and the stuff can appear anywhere, 275 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 1: and that's kind of how I go about it. 276 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 3: One thing I have to keep reminding myself as a 277 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 3: reporter is that we live and breathe this stuff on 278 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:44,319 Speaker 3: a daily basis. So whereas we feel like we know 279 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:47,200 Speaker 3: it inside and out, perhaps our audience doesn't. And I 280 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 3: wanted to make sure that we don't just assume that 281 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 3: people know what we know. So how important is it 282 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 3: for you ken you know, still bring up stories that 283 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 3: perhaps you know but not everybody has heard it. You know, 284 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:00,440 Speaker 3: not everyone's watching us all the time. Not everyone's us 285 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 3: all of the time. So how much does that go 286 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 3: into your reporting too, to make sure that you know, 287 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 3: not everybody is a statistician and a baseball nerd and 288 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 3: a baseball savant, like some people are just a casual fan. 289 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 1: Well, especially this time of yere Alana, And that's really 290 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 1: important to remember because people who watch the playoffs, you 291 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 1: bring in a lot more casual fans. And it's folks 292 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 1: who might live in New York right now and say 293 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 1: I'd like to watch the Mets or the Yankees for 294 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 1: that matter, Folks in LA who might not be avid 295 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 1: Dodgers fans but are Dodgers fans this time of year, 296 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 1: and then folks in general around the country in North 297 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 1: America who just like postseason baseball. My wife is one 298 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 1: of those. She likes watching the postseason. So yes, you 299 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 1: have to be mindful of that. And I'm hopefully going 300 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 1: to use a story about Yamamoto today on the broadcast 301 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 1: tonight that came from an article that Fabian Ardia and 302 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 1: I did in March, and it's about how the Yankees 303 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 1: and Mets pursued him, but that the Dodgers had the 304 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 1: home court advantage because he was living in LA. It's 305 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 1: a cool story. If you read the article, yeah you 306 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 1: know it, But I mean, how many people read the article. 307 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 1: I like to flatter myself and think it's a long 308 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 1: time ago already, So yes, you definitely have to be 309 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 1: mindful of that. 310 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, And sometimes reminders are good things. We can't always 311 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 3: remember something that we read. I can't even remember what 312 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 3: I did yesterday let it alone, something I read several 313 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 3: months ago. Okay, continue to get those questions in for 314 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 3: Grill and Ken here in the chat. This is in 315 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 3: regards to Jerry Reinsdorf, which Britgeroli, our colleague and your 316 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 3: colleague with The Athletic, has an article about the fact 317 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 3: that Jerry Reinsdorf, the majority owner of the Chicago White Sox, 318 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 3: is interested, perhaps at least entertaining the deal of selling 319 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 3: the team. 320 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 4: How true is this? Ken? 321 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 3: And in your estimation, who would be legitimately a buyer? 322 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 4: Could you buy it? Do you have enough cash? 323 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 1: I don't disrespect, but when people ask how true is 324 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 1: this story? Ritchioli is one of the best reporters in baseball. 325 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 1: If she's writing it, it's true, And the question is 326 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 1: how real is it? I guess, and I guess that's 327 00:15:56,280 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 1: what Randy's asking. It's interesting this is coming up at 328 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 1: a time when Jerry Reinsdorf is frustrated in his attempts 329 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 1: to get a new ballpark built in Chicago. He wants 330 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 1: another one built in a different neighborhood. He thinks that 331 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 1: would help the White Sox a great deal. I'm sure 332 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 1: it would. It's a question always of who pays for it, 333 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 1: So here he is. He's talking to a group led 334 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 1: by Dave Stewart, and Dave Stewart has been very involved 335 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 1: in the Nashville expansion process. So I guess if there's 336 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 1: no new ballpark and Dave Stewart buys the team, there's 337 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 1: the threat of the White Sox moving to Nashville. There 338 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 1: are always these kinds of threats that come up when 339 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 1: teams are frustrated with their present stadium situations. How real 340 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 1: is this? Will Reinstorf actually do it? He owns nineteen 341 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 1: percent of the team. I assume he's the majority stakeholder. 342 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 1: I don't know. But at the same time, the mere 343 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 1: fact that he is considering it, that he's open to it. 344 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 1: That was a big break by Britt yesterday and a 345 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 1: really good one, and it leads to a lot of 346 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 1: the questions like the one Randy just asked. And we'll 347 00:16:57,440 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 1: see in the next several months how this play is out. 348 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 3: I'm in agreement with you. Bridge Roli is one of 349 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 3: the best in the business. She's phenomenal at what she does. 350 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 3: Let me ask you this a question in regards to 351 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 3: the Yankees, Hi kenon Alana High, Steven Good to see you. 352 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:14,160 Speaker 3: Do you agree with people who say the Yankees got 353 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 3: an easy path to the World Series. 354 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:19,440 Speaker 1: I do agree with that. I've written that the moment 355 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:21,919 Speaker 1: the Astros went out, I wrote that that this is 356 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 1: the easiest path they've had since they went to the 357 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 1: World Series in two thousand and nine. And that's no 358 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 1: disrespect to the Guardians and the Royals and the Tigers, 359 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:32,440 Speaker 1: the teams that were left at that time. It's more 360 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 1: statement on the Astros, the Yankees, the Bible and Nemesis. Yes, 361 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:41,359 Speaker 1: good word. They were out, The Orioles were out. The 362 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 1: Oriols had faded, but the Oriols had been a thorn 363 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 1: in the Yankee side as well. So it seemed to 364 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 1: me at that point because of those offenses that I mentioned, 365 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 1: that they're weaker. Yes, this was an easy path for 366 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 1: the Yankees, and I will maintain that doesn't diminish what 367 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 1: they're accomplishing. Got to win and beat the teams in 368 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:01,119 Speaker 1: front of you, but they didn't have to beat the Astros, 369 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 1: didn't have to beat the Orioles. And it's a weaker 370 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 1: American league this year. 371 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 3: Well, that was my point. That's how I was going 372 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:08,879 Speaker 3: to answer Stevens question. Is I just think that the 373 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:12,119 Speaker 3: National League by and large is a much tougher path 374 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:15,159 Speaker 3: this year for any team than the American League is 375 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:17,920 Speaker 3: this year. I think the American League, you'd be safe 376 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:21,119 Speaker 3: to say that the Yankees were probably the favorite going in, 377 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:24,119 Speaker 3: and I think they've proven that so far this season. 378 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:26,199 Speaker 3: All right, another question here, I'm Grill and Ken in 379 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:30,720 Speaker 3: regards to the Boston Red Sox, more specifically on Tristan Cassis. 380 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 4: Ken. 381 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 3: This is from hhsg D Football Jade. That's a lot 382 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 3: going on there with some Ever, do you really think 383 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:40,680 Speaker 3: Tristan Cassis is moving this offseason? 384 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:45,879 Speaker 1: I don't know. And the reason I say that is 385 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:48,880 Speaker 1: because I don't know how Craig Breslow, as the chief 386 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 1: baseball officer, is going to go about this. They at 387 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:54,359 Speaker 1: some point are going to have to get more balance 388 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 1: in their lineup, and maybe Cassis is one way to 389 00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:00,240 Speaker 1: do that. You can always find the first baseman, can 390 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:03,400 Speaker 1: move Devs to first base specifically, and that's a move 391 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 1: that might be necessary in time, so Casses would have value. 392 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:11,440 Speaker 1: I don't know that any first basement has tremendous trade value, 393 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:14,919 Speaker 1: but that's going to be a question that comes up 394 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 1: in the offseason because they've got all these kid in 395 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 1: fielders coming and one of them can play third base. 396 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:23,440 Speaker 1: Devors can of course move to first and Cassis. Yes, 397 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:26,359 Speaker 1: teams would like to control, they would like the power, 398 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 1: and they are intrigued by him, so I would expect 399 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:32,159 Speaker 1: they would at least listen. There's no reason not to. 400 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:35,680 Speaker 1: Tristan Cassas is really good. But at the same time, 401 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 1: they've got all these others and mostly middle infield types 402 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 1: in the mix, and it's one way to go to 403 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 1: get the pitching that they need. 404 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:47,159 Speaker 3: I would love to see what Tristan Cassis can do 405 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 3: over the course of an entire season. Obviously a very 406 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 3: special player, but was cut short as far as injuries 407 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 3: are concerned. All right, Grill and Ken continues here. This 408 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:59,679 Speaker 3: is a question in regarding show a Otani one the 409 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:02,400 Speaker 3: last or are people getting tired of all the Otani coverage? 410 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:03,359 Speaker 4: Is it too much? 411 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 3: I don't think so, But maybe people can think of 412 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:08,200 Speaker 3: it as Otani being forced on people. 413 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 4: I think that's fair. 414 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 1: I have heard that complain and I kind of snicker 415 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 1: at it, honestly, because this is the best player we've seen. 416 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:22,639 Speaker 1: It's a remarkable individual. It's unique it's historic. So in 417 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 1: my mind, all the coverage that he gets is entirely warranted, 418 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:30,159 Speaker 1: and frankly, the more the better, because even with all 419 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:32,399 Speaker 1: the coverage, we don't know that much about him, and 420 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:34,239 Speaker 1: we're probably never going to know that much about him. 421 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:37,240 Speaker 1: He is to himself, and because of the language barrier, 422 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:40,119 Speaker 1: we don't hear him talk all that much, at least 423 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 1: without an interpreter. And as far as what he achieves 424 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 1: on the field, the coverage, in my mind is entirely appropriate. 425 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 1: Consider last night, I talked about him pregame because of 426 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 1: that weird stat oh for nineteen with the bases empty 427 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 1: going into the game, six for eight with runners on base, 428 00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 1: and I said, basically, it's inevitable at some point he's 429 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:02,200 Speaker 1: going to do something. Well, boom, there it is, and 430 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:06,200 Speaker 1: he's had to face tougher pitching in the postseason. That's 431 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:09,720 Speaker 1: inevitable for all players. But what he can do and 432 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:14,399 Speaker 1: that swing alone was just compelling. It was incredible. So 433 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 1: I don't think there's too much coverage. I know, if 434 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 1: you're maybe a Giant fan or a Padre fan, you're 435 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 1: sick and tired of hearing about Otani, But he's a 436 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 1: singular player, and we have to cover him extensively. We'd 437 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 1: be doing not doing our jobs if we didn't. 438 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:32,879 Speaker 3: He is a generational player. And I don't know what 439 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 3: you think about this, and maybe this is a stretch, 440 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:38,160 Speaker 3: but what Otani is doing right now for the game 441 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:41,880 Speaker 3: of baseball Ken is almost like what Fernando Valenzuela kind 442 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 3: of met in the you know, in the eighties for 443 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:49,119 Speaker 3: Los Angeles and baseball and for Spanish speaking players with 444 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 3: Fernando Mania. 445 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 4: I'm not saying they're exactly. 446 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:54,399 Speaker 3: The same, but I feel like this today's generation of 447 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:57,879 Speaker 3: baseball fans is kind of experiencing what that generation of 448 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 3: baseball fans did when Fernando Mania was such a thing. 449 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 1: Hey, that's certainly one comparison. We can make others two, 450 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:07,440 Speaker 1: going back to Jackie and we can look at Roberto Clemente, 451 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 1: these guys who came into baseball and in their cases 452 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:14,640 Speaker 1: broke barriers. Otani's not doing that, but we're compelling and 453 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:19,159 Speaker 1: intriguing for those reasons alone. And you couldn't take your 454 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 1: eyes off them as players either. They were that good. 455 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 1: Jackie Robinson, Roberto Clemente, Shoho Tani. These guys were and 456 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:29,680 Speaker 1: are just amazing to watch. And it's the beauty of 457 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 1: the game, honestly that we get these players once and 458 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:34,679 Speaker 1: on now we got them for the wrong reasons in 459 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:37,159 Speaker 1: the past, because they were barred from playing. Sure, but 460 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:42,120 Speaker 1: now we get a player who is just athletically different 461 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:43,879 Speaker 1: than anything we've seen before. 462 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 3: And I don't care how much show Hey coverage we get, 463 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:49,360 Speaker 3: as long as Decoy gets the same amount of coverage. 464 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:52,879 Speaker 3: I am in for all of the Decoy Otani coverage. Okay, 465 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:57,440 Speaker 3: A serious question now for the folks in Tampa Bay. 466 00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 3: As far as the Rais are concerned, Ryan wants to know. 467 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:02,880 Speaker 3: He's worried about the Rays and wondering about them too. 468 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 3: I saw an article today and it seemed options were 469 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 3: up in the air. The trop has been severely damaged 470 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:10,920 Speaker 3: by Hurricane Milton. Of course, the roof is gone. It's 471 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 3: not like you can just build a roof overnight. What 472 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:15,159 Speaker 3: are the options for the Rays can in terms of 473 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 3: where they're going to play in the twenty twenty five season. 474 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 1: I don't know, and I don't know that they know 475 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:22,880 Speaker 1: right now. They're kind of sorting through things, still recovering, 476 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 1: of course from the hurricane. Being respectful of all that 477 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:29,359 Speaker 1: has gone on in that region, it's a real sticky 478 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 1: question for them. It doesn't seem that the troup can 479 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 1: be repaired in time for the seasons to start. That's 480 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:36,640 Speaker 1: the problem. So what do you do? Do you play 481 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 1: in minor league parks like in Dunedin or in Orlando 482 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 1: where the Breeze used to train, or do you go 483 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 1: and try to share the Marlin Stadium where it would 484 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:47,679 Speaker 1: be a big overlapping conflicts with dates. Do you go 485 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:51,640 Speaker 1: to some other city entirely? These are tough questions. And 486 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 1: if you go to a minor league park, let's say 487 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 1: they play in Dunedin like the Blue Jays did when 488 00:23:56,640 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 1: the COVID was going on, Well that's two team teams 489 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 1: that will be playing in minor league parks next year. 490 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 1: The A's of course, and you have now the Rays. 491 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 1: That's not a good look. I would love to see 492 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 1: them play in Oakland. Yeah, you see all the open 493 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:14,640 Speaker 1: fans kind of rally around the Rays and get another team. 494 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 1: But MLB is never going to allow that to happen. 495 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 1: And I just don't know that there's an easy answer here, 496 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:23,199 Speaker 1: and that's probably why we haven't heard much about this yet. 497 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:26,600 Speaker 1: They're trying to figure it out, and maybe it's some 498 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:30,359 Speaker 1: kind of combination of solutions. Montreal has been mentioned. Remember 499 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:32,800 Speaker 1: they had that split city plan with the Rays at 500 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 1: one time. I don't know that that's viable, but all 501 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 1: of these things are going to be discussed. 502 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:41,200 Speaker 3: I would imagine for sure, why in your estimation would 503 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 3: Major League Baseball never allow Oakland to do it? I know, 504 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:47,159 Speaker 3: the mess with the Athletics and go into Sacramento and 505 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:49,360 Speaker 3: potentially eventually Las Vegas. 506 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 4: But the park is there. 507 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 3: You know, the Oakland community could use the work. Why 508 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:56,360 Speaker 3: wouldn't Major League Baseball do it? 509 00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:58,639 Speaker 1: Because I think Major League Baseball has had it with 510 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 1: open and I don't I think Major League Baseball wants 511 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:03,120 Speaker 1: any part of Oakland. And if there was a real 512 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 1: desire to be in Oakland, some things maybe would have 513 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 1: been handled differently. And I know Oakland had all these 514 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 1: problems and MLB will cite them till you're blue in 515 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:15,119 Speaker 1: the face, as will the a's people. Okay, but there 516 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:17,119 Speaker 1: were a lot of mistakes made along the way, and 517 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 1: a lot that could have happened that didn't happen, And 518 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 1: I just think at this point MLB sees it as 519 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 1: kind of a lost market. Maybe for expansion, they revisit it, 520 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:27,119 Speaker 1: but I don't know. 521 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:29,639 Speaker 4: All right, Yeah, that ship has sailed. It seems okay. 522 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 3: Time now for our dude and dork of the week. 523 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:35,879 Speaker 3: This is where we have an opportunity to applaud some 524 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:38,720 Speaker 3: good deeds and also kind of scratch our head at 525 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 3: what are these people thinking? All right, Ken, we'll start 526 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:42,680 Speaker 3: with you, as always, Who is your dude of the week? 527 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 1: My Dude of the week is Mark. I took it 528 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:47,919 Speaker 1: personal Vientos, and we've been talking a lot about the Dodgers, 529 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:49,639 Speaker 1: and I want to give them mets of love and 530 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 1: vant Do's in particular, and what I love about this guy, 531 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:54,639 Speaker 1: and of course I'm talking about the intentional walk to 532 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:56,680 Speaker 1: Lindor in front of him in Game two, and it's 533 00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 1: a subsequent Grand Slam. But what I love about Vianto's 534 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:02,639 Speaker 1: is he's a guy his own team had kind of 535 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:06,200 Speaker 1: counted out. He sent him to the Miners. They signed JD. Martinez. 536 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:08,119 Speaker 1: They thought he couldn't play third base. All of this 537 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,920 Speaker 1: and maybe he can't play third base. Maybe ultimately he's 538 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 1: the replacement for Pete Alonzo at first. But my favorite 539 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 1: thing in the game, one of my favorite things is 540 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 1: when players prove people wrong, and sometimes it's media, sometimes 541 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:23,400 Speaker 1: it's their own teams, and sometimes it's just a perception 542 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 1: that fosters and it gets created in the industry. Well, 543 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 1: Vento's has done that. He is a big time player, 544 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:32,480 Speaker 1: he's a hitter, and he's going to be a big 545 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 1: part of that organization for years to come. And I 546 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 1: don't know that the Mets really anticipated that. Let's say, 547 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:39,200 Speaker 1: going back to spring training. 548 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 3: I loved when he looked over and you know, he 549 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:44,680 Speaker 3: sees the numbers going up like this, and he kind 550 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:46,119 Speaker 3: of like raised that eyebrow. 551 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:48,359 Speaker 4: Like, oh, all right, okay, I see you. 552 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 3: And again I don't I don't fault Dave Robbers intentionally 553 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 3: walking Francisco Lindor I mean, Francisco Lindor' is a beast 554 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 3: at the plate. 555 00:26:56,800 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 4: You know he's not. And Mark Viento's isn't Frankie. 556 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 3: So I love the move, but I love Mark Briento's like, 557 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 3: all right, I got this, let's bring it. 558 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:05,960 Speaker 4: I'm gonna make you pay for that decision. 559 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 1: Okay. 560 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:09,439 Speaker 3: My dude of the week is Key k Hernandez, just 561 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:12,159 Speaker 3: because this guy takes it to another notch in the 562 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 3: month of October, You can put a lot of people 563 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 3: in this. You could put you know, Walker Bueller with 564 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:18,680 Speaker 3: what he did. You could obviously put Mark Biento's as 565 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 3: you did. Max Munsey has reached base safely in eight 566 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:25,119 Speaker 3: straight plate appearances. Show Hey o Tani, that ball still 567 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 3: hasn't landed at City Field. To me, Key k just 568 00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:31,160 Speaker 3: has a confidence and a knack for the big stage 569 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 3: that you need at this time of year. And I 570 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:36,160 Speaker 3: said it a thousand times, Key k Hernandez always needs 571 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 3: I don't care if he is oh for a billion 572 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:42,280 Speaker 3: in the regular season, Ken Rosenthal, Key k Hernandez needs 573 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:46,120 Speaker 3: to be in your lineup in the postseason all right. 574 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 3: Time Now for the John Fisher Dork of the Week. 575 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:59,480 Speaker 1: It's gonna bell And I always get so excited to 576 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 1: talk about Dork of the Week I start talking over 577 00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:04,720 Speaker 1: the music. I apologize if anyone that's okay by John 578 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 1: Fisher Dork of the Week is a fellow owner. We 579 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:10,359 Speaker 1: discussed him earlier. Jerry Reinsdorf. We didn't hear anything about 580 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:13,239 Speaker 1: Jerry Reinsdorf selling the White Sox until he couldn't get 581 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:15,680 Speaker 1: a new ballpark built. And suddenly now we're hearing Jerry 582 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:18,359 Speaker 1: Reinsdorff talk about selling the White Sox through that story 583 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:22,119 Speaker 1: that Vituali broke yesterday. Dork of the Week might be 584 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,240 Speaker 1: a little harsh, but I don't think White Sox fans 585 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:26,359 Speaker 1: would think it's harsh enough. They've seen enough of the 586 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 1: Reinsdorf ownership over the years, and this team does need 587 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 1: to change, there's no doubt about it. But how sincere 588 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,199 Speaker 1: he is about actually selling to the group led by 589 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:38,120 Speaker 1: Dave Stewart and where this actually stands and where it 590 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 1: all goes, well, that remains to be seen. Jerry Reinsdorf 591 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:42,040 Speaker 1: Dork of the Week. 592 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 3: Okay, mine is with the Gold Glove nominees, one that 593 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 3: was nominated and one that received and did not receive 594 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:52,160 Speaker 3: a nomination, so that was a snub. 595 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 4: Again. 596 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 3: Six coaches and Ken you taught me this earlier today. 597 00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 3: Six coaches and a manager vote from each team. So 598 00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 3: that's seventy five percent of the vote and the other 599 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 3: twenty five percent is based on a defensive metric. Well, 600 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 3: I tell you what, This defensive metric cocktail is broken 601 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 3: because the fact that Juan Soto of the New York Yankees, 602 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,960 Speaker 3: should he give a silver slugger, perhaps what a gold Glove. 603 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 3: I don't know about that. I don't think that. I'm 604 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,440 Speaker 3: thinking Juan Soto and right field for the Yankees is 605 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:21,520 Speaker 3: a Gold Glove caliber right fielder. I don't think he's 606 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 3: that great defensively, so that's a question mark for me. 607 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 3: And how Francisco Lindor, the shortstop of the New York Mets, 608 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 3: did not. 609 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,640 Speaker 4: Get a nomination for Gold Glove is. 610 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:34,720 Speaker 3: More surprising to me that Juan Soto actually got one. 611 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:37,320 Speaker 3: How does this man Ken who made a fantastic play 612 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 3: last night, as recently as last night, how does he 613 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:42,240 Speaker 3: not get a nomination for this award? 614 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 1: I don't know. And you've got to give credit to 615 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 1: the shortstops who did get nominations. They're all really good, Swanson, 616 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:51,880 Speaker 1: Tovar and Mason Wayne. But I was baffled by it 617 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,280 Speaker 1: as well. I'm a maqui lely baffled by Soto. I 618 00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:56,800 Speaker 1: wrote a story very early in the season about how 619 00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:59,240 Speaker 1: he's improved his defense, and it was one of those 620 00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:01,640 Speaker 1: stories where as soon as I push the button, I 621 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 1: thought we'll stay on this one. Ages it didn't age 622 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 1: that great. It is obviously not right that Lindor was snubbed, 623 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,320 Speaker 1: and I would say it's not right that Sodo got 624 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:18,280 Speaker 1: his own final version here. He's a finalist. So their 625 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 1: flaws and all these things, of course, including the BBWA Awards. 626 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 1: But this one can't blame on the writers. 627 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 4: That's right. This one is not on you. 628 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 3: Whether it's an edition or of subtraction omission or whatever, 629 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:30,800 Speaker 3: this is not on the writers. All right, let's give 630 00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:33,040 Speaker 3: a shout out to our friends that bet MGM. We 631 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 3: always appreciate everything that they do for us. 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All right, Ken, we appreciate it. 641 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:09,640 Speaker 3: You obviously have the game tonight, Game four seven point 642 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:10,880 Speaker 3: thirty eastern on Fox. 643 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:12,880 Speaker 4: How will the Mets respond? 644 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 1: That's a good question you're facing Yamamoto. 645 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:19,080 Speaker 4: It's not going to be easy, all right, Ken Rosenthal. 646 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 3: We appreciate you always on Fair Territory with Ken Rosenthal. 647 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:24,960 Speaker 3: Watch Ken tonight on the Fox broadcast, and he, of 648 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 3: course will be back with a new episode next week. 649 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:28,360 Speaker 4: Thanks for being here.