1 00:00:01,400 --> 00:00:03,840 Speaker 1: Ron and Anian. Someone once said to me, in order 2 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:06,120 Speaker 1: to repair, with more people swear by you than at you, 3 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:07,800 Speaker 1: you're ahead of the curtain. I really think that could 4 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:10,280 Speaker 1: be a true statement, because there's always gonna be somebody 5 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 1: you can't make happy. The car Doctor, I'm trying to 6 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:21,480 Speaker 1: come up with logical reasons why we think it's the trams. 7 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 1: You get what I'm saying. Yeah, that's why I called you. 8 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 1: That's what I puits. Wait before I get to go 9 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 1: buy a new pool and buy a pard idea. Now 10 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 1: you don't need an ideas for this. Welcome to the 11 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:33,480 Speaker 1: radio home of Ron and Anian, the Car Doctor, since 12 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:37,920 Speaker 1: this is where car owners the world overturn to for 13 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 1: their definitive opinion on automotive repair. If your mechanics giving 14 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 1: you a busy signal, pick up the phone and call 15 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:48,199 Speaker 1: in the garage doors are open, but I am here 16 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:50,599 Speaker 1: to take your call at eight five five five six, 17 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 1: And now he running, Oh is it might turn now? Gee? Okay, 18 00:00:58,440 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 1: then I guess I'll stop what I was doing. Well, 19 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 1: actually I was. I was over here on the side. 20 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 1: While I was waiting for the show to get started, 21 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:06,760 Speaker 1: I was talking to Joe out in Pennsylvania, about his uh, 22 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 1: his twenty seventeen Chevy Silverado. We were up here on 23 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 1: Facebook talking. You know, if you're out there, go out 24 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:14,679 Speaker 1: to the Ronanindian Car Doctor Facebook page and Tom very 25 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:16,960 Speaker 1: kindly puts up the video link or the audio link. 26 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:18,760 Speaker 1: If you're not listening to us live or you're not 27 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 1: podcasting us, you can pick up the show via the 28 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 1: Facebook feed during show live hours of Saturday afternoons to 29 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 1: to four pm East Coast time. Joe wrote and he said, Hey, Ron, 30 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 1: I've got a seventeen Chevy six six diesel. I live 31 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:34,319 Speaker 1: in Pennsylvania mainly to at for travel trailer. I have 32 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 1: about six thousand miles on the oil. But the oil 33 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:39,319 Speaker 1: monitor says left it olds ten quarts of oil. What's 34 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:41,759 Speaker 1: a good miles to change this? And you know, I 35 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 1: I We've been going back and forth over the last 36 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:46,760 Speaker 1: hour because when I'm talking to you, I'm talking to everybody, 37 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 1: and um, I you know what I told him was 38 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 1: I said, for my money, I'd be using a synthetic. 39 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 1: Joe also told me that he was using a semisynthetic 40 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 1: change that the dealer and listen, I'm not knocking dealers. 41 00:01:56,440 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 1: Dealers are just a repair facility because they're used. Because 42 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:03,919 Speaker 1: they're doing service on any vehicle doesn't mean they're using 43 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 1: correct parts. We had a customer with an eighteen Dodge 44 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 1: Durango that had a headlight failure under warranty, and they 45 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 1: took it to the local Dodge dealer. The Dodge dealer 46 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 1: put in an aftermarket HID headlight because the HID headlights 47 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 1: are like three hundred bucks apiece for that truck. About 48 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 1: two days later, the customer noticed he had a blue 49 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 1: headlight on the left, which was the the O E one, 50 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:34,360 Speaker 1: and he had a yellow headlight on the right, which 51 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:36,920 Speaker 1: was the aftermarket version, because that was the one that 52 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 1: the dealer had changed and they didn't use the same brand. 53 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 1: They didn't using OWE lamp, and they didn't want to 54 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 1: do anything about it. They said, our job is to 55 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:45,920 Speaker 1: fix the light, not necessarily make the colors match, which 56 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 1: I thought was nonsense. And he brought it to us 57 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 1: and we got a three HID from the Chrysler dealer 58 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:54,800 Speaker 1: Dodge dealer, and now he's got you know, and now 59 00:02:54,800 --> 00:03:00,080 Speaker 1: he's got two that match, and you know he's in 60 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 1: good shape that way. Um, yeah, you know, just just 61 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 1: because it's the dealer doesn't make them right. The dealer 62 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:10,080 Speaker 1: is only as good as the as the people that 63 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:13,119 Speaker 1: are in there. So I then go on to talk 64 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 1: to Joe and I said, you know, it's it's got 65 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 1: to be synthetic. Why not run synthetic. I don't know 66 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 1: why we have semisynthetic oil anyway, I don't. I don't 67 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:22,239 Speaker 1: see the point. Every engineer I talked to it tells 68 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 1: me that semisynthetic oil exists primarily because of price point. 69 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 1: You know, in my experience, I see the difference between 70 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 1: semisynthetic and synthetic of about a buck of court. Spend 71 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 1: the extra five six bucks and oil change. Put a 72 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 1: full synthetic in it, go a little bit longer on 73 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:43,119 Speaker 1: your interval, All right, do the engine some good because 74 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 1: it's not just the length of time, it's also you know, 75 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 1: how good the engine is protected? And um, you know, 76 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 1: I told Joe what I know. I said, you know, Joe, 77 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 1: for my money, I'd be using a synthetic. Replied to 78 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 1: him on the Facebook page, I said, I'm not sure 79 00:03:57,280 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 1: what viscosity has seventeen Silverado takes. I have to look 80 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 1: it up, but I still like shell Rottel of fifteen 81 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 1: W forty as a as a great diesel oil and 82 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 1: it is Shell's really got it figured out. I mean, 83 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 1: as far as diesel application, I see that oil used. 84 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:16,480 Speaker 1: Probably of the time. It seems like everyone is using 85 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 1: Shell Rotel of fifteen forty. He then asked me about 86 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 1: oil additives or about fuel additives. I'm sorry, and I'll 87 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 1: tell you what I told him. I said, you know 88 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 1: what I always tell you guys about fuel additives. It's 89 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:30,679 Speaker 1: always changing and there always seems to be the next, better, best, 90 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 1: greatest fuel additive out there. Um, I like what Berryman does? 91 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 1: I mean Berryman and I hear you know. You know 92 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 1: how I know Berryman's got it going on is that 93 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 1: when you the listeners and I've had more than a 94 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 1: few of you right in or call me and say, hey, 95 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 1: I called up Barryman's tech support. They actually put me 96 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 1: on the phone with the chemist. You know how many 97 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 1: companies do that? All right? Try calling the White House 98 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:54,920 Speaker 1: and say I want to speak to the president. I 99 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 1: want to talk to about them. Now I can't go. 100 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 1: There's not political show. I shouldn't say that, but you 101 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 1: get the point there at direct let you talk to 102 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:03,039 Speaker 1: the front of the horse, which I think is a 103 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 1: great thing um, and I told Joy, I said, I'd 104 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:06,919 Speaker 1: go to the Barman website look up to see what 105 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 1: diesel fuel additives they have, and then where are we 106 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 1: out from there? I think diesels, I think diesels probably 107 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 1: need a fuel additive, depending upon what climate and what 108 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 1: environment you're in, probably a little bit more in my 109 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 1: mind than a gas vehicle because the severity of application 110 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 1: and what we're asking diesel engines to do, um, you know, 111 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 1: is so much more. And there are several critical factors 112 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 1: that diesels exhibit versus I guess engine that just makes 113 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 1: them more susceptible to things. And um Joe wrote back, 114 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 1: he said, hey, Ron, thanks, any other issues known with 115 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 1: that seventeen Silver? And I said, yeah, sometimes there's trans 116 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 1: and tor converter issues, which there are the g M trucks, 117 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 1: the Colorados, the Silverados. They're having converter issues. I've I've 118 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 1: heard and seen some cases up to a hundred thousand 119 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:57,840 Speaker 1: miles although it's up to a hundred thousand miles where 120 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:01,360 Speaker 1: the converters are failing and causing rough shifting and causing 121 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 1: some other issues with the vehicle. And you know, people 122 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:06,839 Speaker 1: are spending five six thousand dollars to get trans as overhauled. 123 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 1: But look at the price of a new vehicle, so 124 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 1: it's not really that terrible. Um So, And I guess 125 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:14,159 Speaker 1: the point of this is, you know, I enjoy talking 126 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 1: to you guys. I was distracted when we started this hour, 127 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 1: was talking to Joe on Facebook. So, but the Facebook 128 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 1: feed is up, and um it is. It is working, 129 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:24,479 Speaker 1: it is doing what it's supposed to do. Um. I 130 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:27,040 Speaker 1: want to talk about bad designs real quick if I can, 131 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:28,799 Speaker 1: before I before I pull over and take the pause, 132 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 1: before we open up the phones, which are getting busy 133 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 1: at eight five zero. You know, it's it's funny the 134 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:39,839 Speaker 1: little things that influence me and and make me think 135 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 1: what are they doing here? I make coffee every day 136 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 1: when I get up, before I leave the house, I 137 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:48,919 Speaker 1: make coffee for my wife. I don't drink coffee. They 138 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 1: don't let me drink coffee. I was told not to 139 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:53,479 Speaker 1: drink coffee because, believe it or not, coffee makes me 140 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 1: talk a lot. If you don't, n c and Tom 141 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 1: roll his eyes if you don't think I talk a lot, Now, 142 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 1: boy brother, put a cup of coffee in me. I 143 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 1: will talk your ear off. Do not drink any coffee. No, 144 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 1: it's Tom. It's just amazing. I remember, you know, It's 145 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 1: like it's like I could do my cousin impersonation and 146 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 1: go on for about three days. So don't let me 147 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 1: drink coffee ever. But I noticed the other day that 148 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 1: and we buy the same brown white bag. I don't 149 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 1: even know that. I don't even know the brand name, right. 150 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 1: I just take this brown white bag of coffee that 151 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 1: Susie likes out of the cabinet and I put it 152 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 1: in the pot and I made coffee. You know, I've 153 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 1: noticed lately that I'm I have to wrestle with the 154 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 1: coffee bag to get it open. It's like an argument, 155 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 1: like I want to open it. It says, no, I 156 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 1: don't want to be opened. I don't want to be used. 157 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 1: The other day I had to actually take out a 158 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 1: butcher's knife and cut the top of the bag open 159 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 1: because the little serration. You know, they always put a 160 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 1: little tear on the top of the bag so you 161 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 1: can get and tear. They got rid of that, And 162 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 1: I started thinking about cars, and cars are like coffee bags, right, 163 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 1: Somebody redesigned something and we just accept it. We just 164 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 1: accept that bad design. And I don't know why we do. 165 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 1: I mean, I guess we have two in a way, right. 166 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 1: We all have to drink coffee, we all have to 167 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 1: drive cars. And I I started thinking to myself, you know, 168 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 1: how stupid are these people. They take something so simple 169 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 1: as to open a bag of coffee, they take something 170 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 1: so simple as an automobile. And I guess September has 171 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 1: been like the month of stupidity because I'm thinking about 172 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 1: the cars where the alternators are under intake manifolds, and 173 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 1: there's drive belts that are inaccessible, and there's just it's 174 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 1: just you know, an alternator. It's been alternator a month 175 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:37,960 Speaker 1: at the shop and I don't know why. And I 176 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:40,200 Speaker 1: mean back in the day the alternator, an alternator was 177 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:43,440 Speaker 1: to two fifty bucks parts and labor installed. We're doing 178 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 1: alternators for tars. Volvo was recently two grand by the 179 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 1: time we took everything apart and put it together and 180 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:52,840 Speaker 1: found a few other problems. But it's crazy, it's crazy numbers, 181 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 1: and it's it's it's like that bag of coffee. We 182 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:58,839 Speaker 1: just accept it. We keep buying those cars, we keep 183 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 1: driving those cars, and it seems to me that we 184 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:09,599 Speaker 1: would have less problems if things were simpler and I 185 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:11,839 Speaker 1: don't have the solution. Maybe we just ought to stop 186 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 1: looking for ridiculous things. You know. I have one customer, Claudia, 187 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 1: who keeps kidding me that someday she's gonna get a 188 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 1: suburban or a big suv. She wants. She wants heated 189 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 1: and air conditioned cup holders, and they're out there. It 190 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 1: is available as an option. Why you would need that, 191 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 1: I don't know, but it's a lot like that bag 192 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:34,199 Speaker 1: of coffee. I think eventually everybody I'll have heated and 193 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 1: air conditioned cup holders, because like coffee, everybody just seems 194 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 1: to have to have one except me. I don't get 195 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 1: to drink coffee because it makes me talk too much, 196 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:47,320 Speaker 1: which for some of you, you're probably going, thank god, 197 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:52,079 Speaker 1: zero run any of the car doctor coming back right 198 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 1: after this without coffee, and before we do that. Yeah, 199 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:57,319 Speaker 1: I just want to say, I just you'd be quiet 200 00:09:57,320 --> 00:10:00,439 Speaker 1: for a minute. Ah, don't ignore your coffee. I want 201 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 1: to talk to the listeners, you see, because I have 202 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 1: to sit here. It's bad enough I have to look 203 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 1: at ron. I don't have an off but listen because 204 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 1: I'm captive. I don't really think the listeners do me 205 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 1: a favor and give you a call because I'd read 206 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 1: to listen to them, So please give us a call. 207 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 1: We got a couple of open lines. I'm ready to go. 208 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:34,680 Speaker 1: I'll be back right after this. I number time riding 209 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 1: on the wall, so you don't forget to call for 210 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 1: a car advice. Done right? Eight five five five zero 211 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:43,679 Speaker 1: zero zero. Now back to Ron. Hey, let's get over 212 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 1: to Bob and Binghamton with an oh seven Chevy Calarado 213 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:48,199 Speaker 1: and some problems with a wheel hub. Bob, welcome to 214 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 1: the car doctor. How can I help? Yeah, thank you. 215 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 1: I'm sure you have my stuff. We had to deal 216 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 1: with these one time or another. I've got that U 217 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:03,319 Speaker 1: two wheel drive two thousand seven Cheavy Colorado and I 218 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 1: left front bearing shot and trying to get that hub 219 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 1: out of there, and uh, I'm almost to the point 220 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:13,200 Speaker 1: where I think I'm gonna have to pull the spindle 221 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 1: to get to get that out there, because there's four 222 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 1: bolts that go through the to hold it on. Those 223 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 1: through through the back of the knuckle, right, Bob, Yeah, 224 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:30,679 Speaker 1: and that and those are through holes, so you know 225 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 1: I can't you know, uh, you know, use longer bolts, 226 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 1: and you know I'm not or anything like that because 227 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 1: those are only through holes. The only ones that are 228 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 1: threaded out of the ones on the bracket for the 229 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:45,960 Speaker 1: for the break, right. But what you could do is 230 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 1: you could get longer bolts. First of all, understand, those 231 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 1: four bolts come off on the inside of the knot, 232 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 1: and then that bearing and hub as an assembly, is 233 00:11:56,720 --> 00:12:00,160 Speaker 1: just sitting inside the knuckle. Those bolts retain it, and 234 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 1: then the the brake rotor is captured or locked into 235 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:06,319 Speaker 1: the bearing behind it. That's what we call a captured rotor. 236 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:10,080 Speaker 1: So you could you could, if you have access to 237 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 1: an air chisel and some heat, you could, uh, first 238 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:16,959 Speaker 1: of all, try soaking it with a Rustbusters p B 239 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 1: blaster would be a good way to go and let 240 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:22,080 Speaker 1: it soak, and then take those four bolts out, get 241 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 1: something longer, hardened and longer thread them back in, leaving 242 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 1: approximately a half inch of gap between the bottom of 243 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 1: the bolt and the back of the knuckle, and then 244 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:36,680 Speaker 1: take an air chisel and tap the head of the bolt. Alternately, 245 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 1: you know, make a cross one two, three, four to 246 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:42,559 Speaker 1: spread the load out and try to pop it out 247 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:45,679 Speaker 1: of the knuckle that way, because that that's designed to 248 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:47,959 Speaker 1: come out. That's there's nothing else holding it in. That's 249 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 1: not a pressed fit. Whatever is holding that in right 250 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 1: now is rust. And if that doesn't do it as 251 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 1: far as removal, then a little bit of heat's going 252 00:12:55,160 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 1: to have to be required. Okay, because that's I've looked at. 253 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:04,200 Speaker 1: You know, I didn't want to have to be you know, 254 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 1: pull the hole so you know, uh, you know stery 255 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 1: knuckle out. But the hammer and chisel, uh I suld 256 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:16,560 Speaker 1: I could try that. The the other thing that I saw, 257 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:19,960 Speaker 1: I've I've done it, but I've had looked on YouTube 258 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:22,560 Speaker 1: somebody took up a couple of two by flours and 259 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:25,079 Speaker 1: cut them on each side and put it against the 260 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:28,080 Speaker 1: frame and then use the power of steering, you know, 261 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 1: and work back and forth to try to push something off. 262 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 1: But uh, I don't think you can get it four bolts, 263 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 1: uh you know with you know, uh air chisel. You 264 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 1: know they had well along. I'm talking about an air 265 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:46,080 Speaker 1: chisel with a long you know, a good a good 266 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 1: twelve to fourteen inch long pointed a bit. I'm not 267 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:53,439 Speaker 1: I'm not talking about something short. You need you need 268 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:56,679 Speaker 1: some you need some running room here, and you know 269 00:13:56,880 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 1: I would do that that will work. They also do me. 270 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:04,320 Speaker 1: You can find from certain tool manufacturers a specific air 271 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:07,680 Speaker 1: chisel bit that is like a hollowed tube that will 272 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 1: fit precisely over the head of the bolt, and the 273 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 1: head of the bolt will have a washer built in, 274 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 1: so it'll be a flanged bolt depending upon you can 275 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 1: find those you know, UM at various sources online, different 276 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 1: bolt manufacturers, depending upon your thread pitch and what you need, 277 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 1: and that will give you the ability to push on 278 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 1: the flange using the air chisel. UM. I've taken him 279 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 1: apart like this before, Bob, so I know this works. 280 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 1: I know unless you've got something really strange or modified 281 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 1: that that should get you out of the woods with this. 282 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 1: But you know, getting it loose as the first step, 283 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 1: and if you have the time, I would really be 284 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 1: soaking this with a good rust penetrant. But keep in 285 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 1: mind you have to get there's a two step process. 286 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 1: You have to get that bearing in hub out, and 287 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 1: then once you get that bearing, hub and rotor assembly out, 288 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 1: you have to disconnect the six bolts that hold that 289 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 1: rotor to the backs of the flanged hub and then 290 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 1: remove that off and then attach that to the new 291 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 1: hub and bearing and then assemble the whole thing back together. 292 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 1: All right, you know I could handle it was kiper 293 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 1: the whole assembly out of there, you know, it says, 294 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 1: stop me right well, if and if, and keep in mind, 295 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 1: if you're in the salt belt, which bring him to 296 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 1: New York really is, you may find it getting that 297 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 1: rotor off the hub, you'll have to apply such force 298 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 1: to the to the rotor that you'll distort it. So 299 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 1: you may want to have a good source handy for 300 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 1: another rotor just in case you need it, because you 301 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 1: may not have anything left to press off or put 302 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 1: back on. If you know what I'm saying, you may 303 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 1: end up damaging it unremoval. So it's happened. It's it's 304 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 1: a fifteen year old part at this point. Yeah, okay, 305 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 1: thank you very much. You're very welcome. You'd be well 306 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 1: all right, you take good care. Let's get over to 307 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 1: Eric and Louisiana Owen Chevy and see what's going on 308 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 1: or a suspension problem? Eric, Welcome to the car doctor. 309 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 1: How can I help? Hey? How are you doing all right? Sir? 310 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 1: What's going on? I have a fifteen hundred Chevy two thousand, 311 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 1: one hundred and four thousand miles. The first six it's 312 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 1: a cream puff. The first six years of its life, 313 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 1: it was a company vehicle. I'm fighting wheelhop. I've changed 314 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 1: the shocks. I went with Monroe gas magics, but the 315 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 1: wheelhop reduced. Now, when I changed the shocks, I exercised 316 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 1: both the front a arms. I couldn't see any visible 317 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 1: movement in the ball joints or the arms, and I 318 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 1: get wheel hoop in the back. Now I've measured the body. 319 00:16:56,480 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 1: In the front, I have a half inch tilt to 320 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 1: the left side. In the back, I have a three 321 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:07,400 Speaker 1: quarters of a niche tilt to the left side. And 322 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 1: I'm suspecting that I have soft springs on my truck. 323 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 1: Um suspecting that too. When you say it was a 324 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:17,160 Speaker 1: company vehicle the first six years of its life, Um 325 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:20,400 Speaker 1: what what? What? What does the company do? Or they 326 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:24,919 Speaker 1: don't tell me? I have no idea about that. I 327 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 1: bought it from the little old man got it, so 328 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:30,679 Speaker 1: it likely carried loads from what you're describing to me. 329 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 1: The fact that it's right height is off. Yeah. Yeah. 330 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:37,359 Speaker 1: They beat the tailgate to death on the things tacking 331 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:42,880 Speaker 1: in the loading docks. So's it sounds like leaf springs 332 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 1: in the back. Is this a coil spring or a 333 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 1: tortion bar? Front spring, truck coil, spring in the front, 334 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 1: leaf in the back. So it sounds like it's time 335 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:56,119 Speaker 1: for some springs. And I would suggest whatever you do, 336 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 1: change front end back together. This way you maintain balance 337 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:02,679 Speaker 1: and equality so that all four of the same. Uh. 338 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:06,480 Speaker 1: Nothing nothing better than starting with four equal springs. Uh. 339 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 1: You know, yeah, that was that was my thinking, because 340 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 1: you know, I've looked at the body bushings. H It's 341 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:15,159 Speaker 1: like every time I hit a boll and I have 342 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 1: a friend down in the street as oh three is 343 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:22,640 Speaker 1: rise and knife. Yeah, no, I would pick them, Yeah, 344 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:25,359 Speaker 1: I would. I would definitely start with springs with this, 345 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 1: Eric and um work your way back out from there. 346 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:29,960 Speaker 1: You may find you want to change the shocks again 347 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 1: because the spring rate may change the way the shocks react. 348 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:36,199 Speaker 1: But springs are first, So take good care and let 349 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 1: me know what happens. I'm running any of the car, doctor, 350 00:18:37,880 --> 00:19:01,919 Speaker 1: We're back right after this. Look a bag running in 351 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:04,920 Speaker 1: the car. Doctor. I'm reading an article this week and 352 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:07,159 Speaker 1: I want to share it with you about um bridge Stone. 353 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 1: You know, you have to stop and think now. As 354 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:12,960 Speaker 1: we make the switch to electric vehicles, everything that's going 355 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:15,359 Speaker 1: to change, and tires are gonna change tires are going 356 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 1: to be different and a study came out this past 357 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 1: week Inside Electric Vehicles UM, Inside inside EVV, Inside evs 358 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:28,639 Speaker 1: dot com is the website UH written by Michael Cantu. 359 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 1: An anticipation in the automotive industries shift to electric vehicles, 360 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:34,359 Speaker 1: bridge Stone will be shifting its focus to the electric 361 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:36,679 Speaker 1: vehicle segment of the market. The Japanese company made a 362 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 1: goal for its future plans to have electric vehicle tires 363 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:44,680 Speaker 1: account for of its new automotive tire sales by now. 364 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 1: How can that be? My question was, how can they 365 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:52,639 Speaker 1: have nine of their sales be electric tire electric vehicle 366 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 1: tires if there's still gonna be older vehicles running around? 367 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 1: Are they just gonna stop making tires? And I said, 368 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 1: is this how we're gonna get We're of the gasoline car. 369 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 1: Bridge Stone will stop competing with low cost brands from 370 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:05,440 Speaker 1: China and South Korea as part of the shift that 371 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 1: plans to end budget tire production for gas vehicles in 372 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 1: Europe later this year. Europe will be the first market 373 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:14,959 Speaker 1: to see assembly lines converted to accommodate electric vehicle tires. 374 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:18,160 Speaker 1: Similar manufacturing conversions will take place in Japan, the US, 375 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 1: and South America down the line. I were just you know, 376 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 1: what are we? Um? You know, yeah, I don't know 377 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:27,120 Speaker 1: what the difference is. Tom is asking me a question, 378 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:31,199 Speaker 1: what's the different electric vehicle tire and uh A a 379 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:34,639 Speaker 1: gas vehicle tire? I don't know. Um, oh here it is, actually, 380 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:37,439 Speaker 1: it says right here Tom. The Nikasia reports states that 381 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:40,680 Speaker 1: tires for electric vehicles are lighter because they use less 382 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:44,159 Speaker 1: rubber and other materials and phase and less resistance, so 383 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 1: it's a more expensive tire to manufacturer. Bridge Stone has 384 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:52,680 Speaker 1: already made games with legacy automakers that have electric vehicles 385 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:55,879 Speaker 1: in production. It supplies Volkswagens I D models with tires. 386 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 1: In twenty three, the company aims to increase supplies to 387 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 1: European brands and bunch of retail sales for customers. Bridgeton't 388 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:05,440 Speaker 1: also has plans to supply tires two Fisker's upcoming electric 389 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:08,119 Speaker 1: SUV that's supposed to enter production late this year. It 390 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:11,439 Speaker 1: also wants to manufacture tires for electric trucks. The Ribban 391 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 1: R one T was the first electric truck to enter 392 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 1: production this year. The Hummer E V and F one 393 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 1: fifty structure to production into early next year. Perspectively. I 394 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:23,119 Speaker 1: I and then I read those stories, and then I 395 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:26,160 Speaker 1: read this out of Detroit. Um, this is a late story. 396 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:27,680 Speaker 1: This story is getting to us late. This is out 397 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:30,119 Speaker 1: of Reuters from June twenty nine. You glide out of 398 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:32,680 Speaker 1: the Teslas showroom and your sleek new Model three satisfied. 399 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:35,120 Speaker 1: You're looking great and doing your bid for the planet. 400 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:37,440 Speaker 1: But you have to keep going. The article says, you'll 401 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 1: have to drive another thirteen thousand, five hundred miles before 402 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 1: you're doing less harm to the environment than a guest 403 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:45,920 Speaker 1: guzzling vehicle. That's the result of an Reuter's analysis of 404 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 1: data from a model that calculates the lifetime emissions of vehicles, 405 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 1: a hotly debated issue that's taking center stages governments around 406 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 1: the world push for greener transport to meet climate targets. 407 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:57,399 Speaker 1: The model was developed by the Aragon National Laboratory in 408 00:21:57,480 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 1: Chicago and includes thousands of parameters, from the types of 409 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 1: men as an electric vehicle battery to the amount of 410 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 1: aluminum or plastic in a car. So, uh, you know, 411 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:08,359 Speaker 1: do we have any answers? Is is it all just? 412 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:11,200 Speaker 1: Are we just fabricating any all of this? Or I 413 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 1: just don't still puzzled. It seems like it's it seems 414 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 1: like it's a big push, right, Tom, Why would a 415 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 1: tire for an electric car be lighter and use less rubber. 416 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:29,199 Speaker 1: Doesn't that mean you're gonna go less miles? Entire changes? 417 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:31,480 Speaker 1: I guess. I guess it can be lighter or different 418 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 1: construction because the weight of the electric car isn't the same. 419 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:38,439 Speaker 1: And yeah, in a way that makes sense. But still, 420 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:41,879 Speaker 1: if if it's if you're using less rubber, that sounds 421 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 1: to me like the tire won't go as far. And 422 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 1: I see what one of one of my concerns is 423 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 1: we're making. You know, all we do now is read 424 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:55,880 Speaker 1: stories about these big changes that the industry is going through. 425 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 1: We're going to you know, have different tires, and we're 426 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 1: going to have different assembly plants, and we're they've actually stopped, 427 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 1: and I've spoken to a few people on this, they've 428 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:11,200 Speaker 1: actually stopped any future development of internal combustion engines beyond 429 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 1: the year. That's it, you know, no more so we're 430 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:18,359 Speaker 1: not investing anything further. We've taken it as far as 431 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:20,480 Speaker 1: we can go. We're just writing it off. We're saying 432 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 1: we're done, we're gonna go electric. But there's all these 433 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 1: challenges I'll use that word in the way of you know, 434 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:33,200 Speaker 1: charging battery, battery life. Where are we going to get 435 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,200 Speaker 1: the material? I still go back to that article I've 436 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:37,920 Speaker 1: got to hear somewhere in studio that we read a 437 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:39,639 Speaker 1: couple of months or a couple of weeks back that 438 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 1: talked about Afghanistan has the world's largest supply of lithium 439 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 1: battery material, making it the equivalent of Saudi Arabia and 440 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 1: its oil supply. So Afghanistan will become the new Middle East. 441 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:54,399 Speaker 1: Of course, I won't get into the politics of that 442 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:56,879 Speaker 1: what just happened there, but it just makes you wonder 443 00:23:57,040 --> 00:24:01,200 Speaker 1: what's really going on, and you know, there's just there's 444 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 1: just something there that just doesn't make any sense. But 445 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 1: uh yet we're making all these drastic changes to accommodate 446 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:11,399 Speaker 1: something on a maybe um I said this is somebody 447 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,439 Speaker 1: the other day, half tongue in cheek. I guess you know, 448 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:16,480 Speaker 1: maybe when the Aliens show up in November, uh to 449 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:18,119 Speaker 1: take over, then they'll show us the way to do 450 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 1: electric vehicles. And then again, maybe they turned around when 451 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:21,639 Speaker 1: they were halfway here because they said, who wants to 452 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 1: go to that place? It's crazy, it's idiot test and 453 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 1: it starts now, and it could be UM. I was 454 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:31,679 Speaker 1: thinking of you know, I was thinking of doing um 455 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:36,119 Speaker 1: bumper stickers you can't fix stupid, right, I figured just 456 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:37,760 Speaker 1: I could probably sell them for if I could get 457 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 1: the production down the fifty cents a piece and sell 458 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:40,920 Speaker 1: them for a bucket piece. All I gotta do is 459 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:42,639 Speaker 1: sell a million. You think you'd sell a million bumper 460 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 1: stickers that say you can't fix stupid in the world 461 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 1: we're living in. Uh, you wonder. Argon's greenhouse Gases, Regulated 462 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 1: Emissions and Energy Use and Technologies model is now being 463 00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 1: used with other tools to help shape policy at the 464 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:56,280 Speaker 1: U s Environmental Protection Agency. There's a bunch of guys 465 00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:58,920 Speaker 1: that makes sense. And the California Air Research Board, I 466 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 1: know a bunch of guys that make sense. The two 467 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:04,359 Speaker 1: main regulators of vehicle emissions in the United States. Cord Kelly, 468 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 1: principal engine system Analysis that Oregon, said making electric vehicles 469 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:11,719 Speaker 1: generates more carbon than combustion engine cars. Let's read that 470 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:17,359 Speaker 1: line again. Corey Kelly, the principal energy systems analysis at 471 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:22,159 Speaker 1: Oregon National Laboratory, said making electric vehicles generates more carbon 472 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:25,439 Speaker 1: than combustion engine cars mainly due to the extraction and 473 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:28,399 Speaker 1: processing of minerals and electric vehicle batteries and production of 474 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 1: the power cells. But estimates as to how big that 475 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:33,480 Speaker 1: carbon gap is when a car is first sold and 476 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 1: where the break even point comes forward evs during their 477 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:40,240 Speaker 1: lifetime can vary widely depending on the assumptions. Kelly said. 478 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 1: The payback period exists then depends on factors such as 479 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 1: the size of the EV's battery, the fuel economy of 480 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:47,639 Speaker 1: a gas car, and how the power used the charge 481 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:52,480 Speaker 1: in e V is generated. Mhmm. I don't think there's 482 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:55,160 Speaker 1: any good answers here, I really don't. I I just 483 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 1: I just I questioned at all. Let's pullward, take a pause, 484 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 1: A five zero running any of the car doctor coming 485 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 1: back right after this? Welcome back around naming the car doctor. 486 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:16,679 Speaker 1: You know, the one thing I love about all you 487 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 1: guys out there listening is your responsiveness. We're we're talking 488 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:22,199 Speaker 1: about electric vehicles a little bit this hour, along with 489 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:25,239 Speaker 1: some other things. And someone sends me an article, uh, 490 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:29,360 Speaker 1: deserted factories show how far, show how China's electric car 491 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 1: boom went too far. I haven't even had a chance 492 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:33,639 Speaker 1: to read this yet let's let's do this on here together. 493 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:36,760 Speaker 1: So it says this came to us from financial Post, 494 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 1: dot com, commodity slish energy vehicles, YadA, yadda, yuh. Deserted 495 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 1: factors show how China's electric car boom went too far, 496 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 1: and visitors to Bite and Limited website are greeted with 497 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 1: color saturated images of shiny electric cars gliding along manufacturer street. 498 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 1: Those paying a visit to the automaker's factory and Nanjing, 499 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:56,399 Speaker 1: Eastern China may be less impressed. The plan is modern, huge, 500 00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:59,159 Speaker 1: gleaming under the hot summer sun, but there's total silence. 501 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:02,399 Speaker 1: Production has been some spend it since the pandemic began. 502 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:05,359 Speaker 1: It's a similar situation across town at Board Motors. The 503 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 1: article continues, weeds dot the factories perimeter, and there's a 504 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 1: court notice posted to the main gate announcing the electric 505 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 1: carmakers bankruptcy. Huh. In many cases, they were lured into 506 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:19,919 Speaker 1: existence by provisional government's dangling cash and other incentives. To 507 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:23,119 Speaker 1: make Beijing's dream of turning China into an electric vehicle 508 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:26,879 Speaker 1: powerhouse reality. Local authorities help manufacturers set up factories that 509 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:30,480 Speaker 1: promised jobs and development. You know, there's some really big 510 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:34,920 Speaker 1: names attached to electric vehicles. It seems there's just an 511 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:38,920 Speaker 1: awful lot of money out there. That is just they're 512 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 1: all clamoring for position, right, they all want to be 513 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 1: the next Henry Ford, so to speak. And let's see 514 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:50,720 Speaker 1: um alarmed by unbridled investment in the sector, referencing electric 515 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:54,160 Speaker 1: vehicles and the bankruptcies and the zombie factories that came 516 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:55,919 Speaker 1: with it. Beijing is applying the brakes. We have too 517 00:27:55,920 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 1: many electric vehicle firms, China's Minister for Industry and Information Technology, 518 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:03,880 Speaker 1: she reportedly told reporters September thirteen. Mergers and acquisitions will 519 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:06,240 Speaker 1: be encouraged as the market needs to be further concentrated, 520 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:08,720 Speaker 1: and pointed out the government is also looking at setting 521 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:12,119 Speaker 1: production limits, at setting product Let's read that line again. 522 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:15,960 Speaker 1: The Chinese government is looking at setting production limits for 523 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:19,400 Speaker 1: the electric vehicle sector, people familiar with the matter told 524 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:23,479 Speaker 1: Bloomberg News this month being September one. With provinces unable 525 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:27,760 Speaker 1: to go green light new projects until surplus capacity comes online, 526 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:30,359 Speaker 1: resources will also be channeled into a few select electric 527 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 1: vehicle hubs. And and that's part of what I keep 528 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:37,160 Speaker 1: thinking that we're we're trying to do too much, too fast. 529 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:39,320 Speaker 1: The article then goes on to say there are eight 530 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 1: hundred and forty six registered automobile manufacturers in China and 531 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:48,040 Speaker 1: more eight hundred and forty six registered automobile manufacturers in 532 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 1: China and more than three hundred of them churn out 533 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 1: new energy cars loosely defined as electric or plug in hybrids. 534 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 1: The vast majority are names unrecognizable. In alone, the country 535 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 1: added new production pascitive around five million units, about four 536 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 1: times the actual number of electric vehicles sold in China 537 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 1: last year. According to the regulators, almost half that capacity 538 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 1: wasn't in use. I you know, listen, I like the 539 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,320 Speaker 1: idea of electric vehicle. I'll tell you where I thought 540 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:18,520 Speaker 1: they were taking electrics too far. And maybe there's a 541 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:20,240 Speaker 1: little off topic for cars, but what the heck we're 542 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 1: so far off topic today it doesn't matter. I wanted 543 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:24,360 Speaker 1: to buy a snowblower this week. I didn't tell you 544 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 1: my snowblower story, did I? Tom, I wanted to buy 545 00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:29,360 Speaker 1: a new snowblower this week. And first of all, if 546 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 1: you need a snowblower, buy it now, because a there 547 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:34,560 Speaker 1: aren't any, and be you're probably not gonna see one 548 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 1: unless you buy it now. Uh, you know. I went 549 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:40,400 Speaker 1: into my local little sharper at the sharp Shop here 550 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 1: in Midland Park, New Jersey, where I always go, and 551 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 1: I saw him a call behind the counter and, um, 552 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:46,680 Speaker 1: you know I need a snowblowers. She said, well, we don't. 553 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 1: We don't have any usually. You know, most of the 554 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:52,040 Speaker 1: lawnmower places have their law. There are snowblowers or stuff 555 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:53,520 Speaker 1: there a couple of months earlier that have it by 556 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:56,959 Speaker 1: now in September, And she said, you can go online 557 00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:58,840 Speaker 1: to Toro. I like Toro. I think Toro makes a 558 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:02,120 Speaker 1: decent machine, and you know, buy it there, they'll ship 559 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 1: it here. We'll put it together for you, because right 560 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 1: now Toro has supply at the factory but not here. 561 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:10,120 Speaker 1: And I thought, God, where have I seen this before? 562 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:12,920 Speaker 1: This is like the car industry. I had someone this 563 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:16,720 Speaker 1: week tell me that they found now listen to this story. 564 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:21,280 Speaker 1: They found a late model Honda CRV that the dealer wanted. 565 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:25,960 Speaker 1: It's a fifteen thousand dollar Honda that the dealer wanted 566 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:32,600 Speaker 1: twenty thousand dollars for And I went, what and you've 567 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:34,720 Speaker 1: got that backwards? You mean it's a twenty thousand dollars 568 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:37,600 Speaker 1: She says, No, it's a fifteen thousand dollar Honda that 569 00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 1: they'll sell to us for five thousand over sticker. You 570 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:43,719 Speaker 1: know what they've got it on the lot for because 571 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 1: there's such a shortage of cars. Wow, I you know, 572 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:53,960 Speaker 1: makes a snowblower story look pale in comparison. And she said, however, 573 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:56,120 Speaker 1: they told me that if I was trading in a car, 574 00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:58,520 Speaker 1: they could give me a real good price on the 575 00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:00,480 Speaker 1: trade because no matter what's wrong with it, they're going 576 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 1: to fix it to sell it. So I just keep 577 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,480 Speaker 1: thinking to myself, my god, what we're what are we 578 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 1: doing here? It's it's it's it's going to become a 579 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:14,640 Speaker 1: it's a seller's market. And you know what, I think 580 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:17,960 Speaker 1: you're going to see the better repair shops continue to 581 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,600 Speaker 1: be busy and stay busy, and the ones that that 582 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 1: haven't won't. Um. But it's it's gonna be interesting, very 583 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:27,800 Speaker 1: much so that the way the market is changing and 584 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 1: evolving and technology is going to shoot itself in the 585 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 1: foot or shoot the industry in the foot because they're 586 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:36,960 Speaker 1: expecting too much. Um. I wonder what's gonna happen six 587 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,360 Speaker 1: to eight years from now, Because six to eight years 588 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:42,200 Speaker 1: of the sweet spot for the automotive after market. For 589 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:44,120 Speaker 1: you know, think about the age. As a shop owner, 590 00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:45,440 Speaker 1: I can tell you the age of the vehicles we 591 00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:48,040 Speaker 1: tend to see a lot of we're fixing thirteens, fourteens, fifteen, 592 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 1: and sixteens. Right well, six to eight years from now 593 00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:53,960 Speaker 1: because of the lack of sales of the twenties and 594 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:58,360 Speaker 1: the twenty ones and twenty two is maybe what's gonna 595 00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:01,560 Speaker 1: happen to the automotive repair market. It in six to 596 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:04,040 Speaker 1: eight years when all of a sudden, there isn't that 597 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:06,440 Speaker 1: glut of cars to be fixed because there wasn't that 598 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:09,840 Speaker 1: glut of car sold. And it's it's gonna change things. 599 00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 1: It's going to affect the balance sheet of many businesses 600 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,960 Speaker 1: in the future. Not to be the sayer of doom 601 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:17,800 Speaker 1: and gloom, but it's just something to watch out for. 602 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:21,080 Speaker 1: It's gonna be kind of interesting. Um, so just be aware. 603 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:22,680 Speaker 1: By the way. I did get a snowblower. I ordered 604 00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:24,520 Speaker 1: a direct from Toro. They're gonna ship it right and 605 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:26,479 Speaker 1: they'll assemble it and drop it off. But if you're 606 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:29,120 Speaker 1: looking for a snowblower, it's gonna be a pretty neat 607 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:31,320 Speaker 1: trick this year. From what I understand that they are 608 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:34,840 Speaker 1: in short supply. Tom, you're gonna say something good. I 609 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:36,480 Speaker 1: was gonna say I did that last year with a 610 00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:40,360 Speaker 1: with an electrics snow shovel from Toro. They didn't have 611 00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:42,640 Speaker 1: it at the at the local store, and I ordered 612 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 1: online that showed up. It's just like they sold it 613 00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:48,239 Speaker 1: to me right and right. And maybe they're doing that. 614 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:50,880 Speaker 1: The local guy got his buck right, you know, yeah, 615 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,240 Speaker 1: and maybe they're doing that because it's just it's easier 616 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 1: than trying to put it. You know, you put everything 617 00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:56,560 Speaker 1: on the east coast, and then the guy in the 618 00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:58,000 Speaker 1: middle of the country wants, and you put in the 619 00:32:58,000 --> 00:32:59,680 Speaker 1: middle of the country, the guy in the east coast wants. 620 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:03,080 Speaker 1: It's it's just easier to the ship it direct like that. 621 00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:05,880 Speaker 1: But I'll tell you what. There's there's certain things that 622 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:07,959 Speaker 1: we're not going to see full supply of for at 623 00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 1: least a year. So it's gonna be interesting. Hey, five 624 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:13,200 Speaker 1: five five zero zero. The car doctors coming back. We're 625 00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:28,360 Speaker 1: right after this. Welcome back. Want any of the car 626 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:30,040 Speaker 1: doctor I noticed the phoones were the phones were a 627 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:31,920 Speaker 1: little quiet today, Tom. It must be a nice day 628 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:35,360 Speaker 1: here in the northeast. Everybody's out cruising around around the country. 629 00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:38,200 Speaker 1: I guess, uh, well that high school and college college 630 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:41,920 Speaker 1: football is up. Oh yeah, that's we're getting games, so 631 00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:43,560 Speaker 1: that we're going out of business. Maybe we don't have 632 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 1: to be here next week. We get next week off. 633 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:48,080 Speaker 1: Um they probably I don't have to see you. They 634 00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:50,479 Speaker 1: probably missed. Um you no, no, you were you were 635 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:53,680 Speaker 1: talking about, you know, part shortage stuff before that extends 636 00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:57,680 Speaker 1: into you know, places like broadcast. I mean there are 637 00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:00,760 Speaker 1: there are still some stations that use transmitters, take power 638 00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:03,360 Speaker 1: tubes and power tubes. This kind of sounds kind of odd, 639 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:06,880 Speaker 1: but power tubes can be rebuilt. Right now. It's it's 640 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:08,760 Speaker 1: a guess if you're going to get a good tube. 641 00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:11,799 Speaker 1: And if you can even get one, because they can't 642 00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:15,319 Speaker 1: get their raw materials, well what they do get is 643 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:18,239 Speaker 1: wrong right well, and and and the row materials thing. 644 00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:22,239 Speaker 1: It's it's killing everything. Um, and I wonder, you know, 645 00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:25,560 Speaker 1: like I'm reading now, I'm reading an article about how 646 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:29,720 Speaker 1: Indiana is going to have self charging roads for vehicles, 647 00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:32,560 Speaker 1: and I'm reading the contents. There's solar panels, there's a 648 00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:35,560 Speaker 1: receiver coil, there's a transmitter coil. It's going to create 649 00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:38,279 Speaker 1: a magnetic field that talks about the century rolls on. 650 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:39,680 Speaker 1: We've all had those one or two moments when we 651 00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:42,520 Speaker 1: see some new technology and innovation really comes home to 652 00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:44,880 Speaker 1: roost in our heads. Maybe for some it should have 653 00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:46,880 Speaker 1: been the self driving feature of the Tesla or smart 654 00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:50,000 Speaker 1: home systems, But for motorists in Indiana, that moment may 655 00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:53,120 Speaker 1: come by way of a shiny new wireless road. While 656 00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:55,359 Speaker 1: range and battery charging times are getting better every year, 657 00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:57,080 Speaker 1: it's still the most limiting factor when it comes to 658 00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:59,200 Speaker 1: the purchase of an electric vehicle. The Indiana Department of 659 00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:02,120 Speaker 1: Transportation as the side of the tackle that by burying 660 00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:05,880 Speaker 1: electrified wire coils that create a magnetic field along the 661 00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:08,239 Speaker 1: road surface, min making the way wireless charging stations for 662 00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:11,319 Speaker 1: tablets and phones are designed. I want to know, so, Tom, 663 00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:13,799 Speaker 1: we're gonna be driving on top of a magnetic field is? 664 00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:16,880 Speaker 1: And how you gonna ask? How safe is that for 665 00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:19,640 Speaker 1: the human beings? Right? What's the I mean? Didn't they 666 00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:21,880 Speaker 1: tell us that having the having our cell phones too 667 00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:26,040 Speaker 1: close to our heads years ago was cancer claus? You know, Tom, 668 00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:28,719 Speaker 1: to be continued, You just gotta ask yourself what's really 669 00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:31,359 Speaker 1: going on? Until the next time it's Ron and Tom, 670 00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:35,480 Speaker 1: we're both reminding you good mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. 671 00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:35,799 Speaker 1: See if