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Speaker 2: Let's at the end six Scoup with EPT senior insider

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Speaker 2: Ken Rosenthal. Ken a great article out there with Jason

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Speaker 2: then obviously you can elaborate on what you recovered. Do

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Speaker 2: you think that in twenty twenty six we will have

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Speaker 2: of your background homework given you more doubt?

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Speaker 3: No. I believe we're going to have the system, and

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Speaker 3: the people involved, people on the player's side, people on

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Speaker 3: but this is coming. The umpires believe it's coming too.

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Speaker 3: In their new CBA, they gave the league essentially licensed

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Speaker 3: to do it, and the Competition Committee, which is comprised

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Speaker 3: of six owners, four players, and one umpire that gives

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Speaker 3: they can do. So, Yes, Scott, I do believe it's coming.

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Speaker 3: There is a lot of discussion taking place and That's

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Speaker 3: kind of what the article was hitting on to some degree,

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Speaker 3: just the idea that, okay, there's a margin for error

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Speaker 3: the players requested from the league, just some idea of

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Speaker 4: Anyway, So you made a good point there, and I

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Speaker 4: do you think about this whole thing? Because I enjoyed

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Speaker 4: the human error as well, you know, check swings, whatever,

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Speaker 4: it is foulfare blah blah blah. Now the strike zone

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Speaker 4: it's slight. Can you can you elaborate a little bit

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Speaker 3: For us Todd, what we reported was that essentially the

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Speaker 3: That's on every pitch. For the most part, MLB is

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Speaker 3: ninety five percent confident it will be within four tenths

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Speaker 3: The umpires might say yes, I don't believe that the

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Speaker 3: some error with any of these systems base Ball wants

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Speaker 3: challenge system, that kind of stuff should go. One concern

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Speaker 3: So Corbyn Burns mentioned this to me. He said, well,

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Speaker 3: me get this straight. If there's a pinch a pitch

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Speaker 3: margining of error exists, and we don't really question that

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Speaker 3: huge adjustment, There's no question about it. The entire definition

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Speaker 5: Who will benefit the most from this when it gets implemented, dude,

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Speaker 5: In all you're talking about all this stuff was Corbyn

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Speaker 5: and complain. But through your discussion with players, does one

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Speaker 3: There are two things that play here. One is the

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Speaker 3: the high strike is going to be lowered, right. But

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Speaker 3: catchers aren't necessarily going to like this because it will

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Speaker 3: It won't be challenging every pitch, but that has been

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Speaker 2: Okay, Ken, I want to swing directions over to what

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Speaker 3: They're very different. And what's really interesting about this is

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Speaker 3: But also the article focus is just on the family

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Speaker 3: That would be kind of cool, right, But it's going

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Speaker 5: Is there a sense of admiration from either side. Like

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Speaker 3: I sensed admiration for sure both ways. And it seems

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Speaker 3: Now when they're on opposite sides, Obviously they want to win,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and hey, I mean he's been in New York

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Speaker 1: a better April than he's had in recent years, so

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Speaker 1: that was a good thing for him. And then it's

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Speaker 1: kind of been the last ten days or so that

435
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Speaker 1: he's fallen off a little bit here. But you know,

436
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Speaker 1: he's too good a player. You would expect him to

437
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Speaker 1: get going. And you know, Sodo's not having a Sodo

438
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Speaker 1: light year, but you would think it's only a matter

439
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Speaker 1: of time before he kicks it in the year. And

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Speaker 1: if you have Lindor and Soto going at the top

441
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Speaker 1: of the lineup, maybe maybe Alonso played out of his

442
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Speaker 1: shoes a little bit, you know, this first stretch here,

443
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Speaker 1: and we're seeing him come back to earth a little bit,

444
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Speaker 1: but you know, you still you still expect Lindor Soto

445
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Speaker 1: that that top of the line Those those guys are

446
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Speaker 1: too good a track recage. They're gonna be good.

447
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Speaker 5: Is the starting rotation enough because man, they were the best,

448
00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:25,080
Speaker 5: They were literally the best pitching staff in all of baseball?

449
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Speaker 5: Will they be enough to push this team into the playoffs.

450
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Speaker 5: First place in the division is what it is. If

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Speaker 5: they can get it, They're they're right there, But is

452
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Speaker 5: it enough or do they need to add besides Manaiah,

453
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Speaker 5: who's coming back. Besides I guess they think montass is

454
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Speaker 5: gonna do good. But hey, that's that's I'm not asking

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Speaker 5: for my opinion. I'm asking for your opinion.

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Speaker 1: I think they still may have to add. You know

457
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Speaker 1: that the trade deadliner before even what those guys you

458
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Speaker 1: mentioned coming back now, let's and Griffin Canning certainly been

459
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Speaker 1: a good story here. A guy who was pitching to

460
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Speaker 1: five E r A last year in Anaheim, he's doing

461
00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:12,600
Speaker 1: half of that with the Mets now. And uh, you

462
00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:15,679
Speaker 1: know they're still getting results out of David Peterson. Uh,

463
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Speaker 1: you know, the big X factor is staying healthy. You

464
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Speaker 1: worry about code I Sanga, Uh just based on the

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Speaker 1: fact that you know, he barely pitched last year and

466
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Speaker 1: he's been doing pretty well here so far. But you know,

467
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Speaker 1: he's the guy I know. Uh, you know they go

468
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Speaker 1: to extra lengths to make sure he gets extra rest.

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Speaker 1: And but he's a concern. And you have Manayah and

470
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Speaker 1: Montas coming back. You know, these guys are still a

471
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Speaker 1: month away in the best case here, So you know,

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Speaker 1: I don't I don't think they have enough. You know,

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Speaker 1: I don't think they think they have enough starting pitching,

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Speaker 1: and certainly they're gonna I think they're gonna to add

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Speaker 1: to the bullpen too.

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Speaker 5: How are they able to keep Senga healthy? You talk

477
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Speaker 5: about what Senga can do. I think he's otherworldly. When

478
00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:10,080
Speaker 5: he pitches in city field, that ghost fork acts kind

479
00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:13,200
Speaker 5: of like Dickie's knuckleball used to in cityfield. It just

480
00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:16,560
Speaker 5: kind of floats around. Do they have enough to keep

481
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Speaker 5: him healthy? You look at the Dodgers who are like, hey,

482
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Speaker 5: you know what, you know, if you have a hangnail,

483
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:23,199
Speaker 5: we're gonna put you on fifteen dail and then you

484
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:27,280
Speaker 5: can come back. The Mets were built with death as

485
00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:31,320
Speaker 5: they're starting rotation, not their starting rotation, and then had depth.

486
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Speaker 5: Do they have other people within the organ that can say,

487
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Speaker 5: you know what, Senga, we're gonna skip this start and

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Speaker 5: then three starts, we're gonna skip.

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Speaker 1: That one also, Yeah, And I don't know if they

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Speaker 1: can do that right now. You know, I think when

491
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Speaker 1: a couple of the if and when a couple of

492
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Speaker 1: these guys come back there'll be more in position to

493
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Speaker 1: do that. They've certainly been alter cautious with him though,

494
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Speaker 1: they you know, they want him to get the extra

495
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Speaker 1: day of rest or you know, in some cases when

496
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Speaker 1: you have a day off in a week, it's two

497
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Speaker 1: extra days. Right, So he's pitching on uh, you know,

498
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Speaker 1: the seventh days. So they're doing everything they can and

499
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Speaker 1: they haven't overextended him. That's another thing. They're they're keeping him,

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Speaker 1: you know, ninety pitches. I'm not sure if I don't

501
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Speaker 1: think he's throwing one hundred pitches that I would have

502
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Speaker 1: to check. But uh, you know, keeping him the six innings,

503
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Speaker 1: and they're gonna err on this side of caution with him.

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Speaker 5: Well, last night he was he was pleading to come

505
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Speaker 5: to go back out. He came off the mound and

506
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Speaker 5: he knew his outing was going to be done and

507
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Speaker 5: he was going one one more. So is there a

508
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Speaker 5: little bit of a leash there?

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Speaker 1: There's a little bit And listen, the Mets. The Mets

510
00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:52,840
Speaker 1: bullpen has been over extended here too, uh, with a

511
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:56,920
Speaker 1: lot of the short starts they've gotten so and they've

512
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Speaker 1: you know, they're lucky they've they've got a guy like

513
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Speaker 1: Glascar Brazabon, who has really come on the scene here

514
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:07,399
Speaker 1: as a multi inning force. And you know Max Kranick

515
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 1: was was very good earlier in the season. He's come

516
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Speaker 1: back to earth a little bit. But you know, they've

517
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 1: got some guys that can give him multi innings here.

518
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:20,680
Speaker 1: But you know, Carlos Mendoz is trying to avoid going

519
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 1: to that well too often.

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Speaker 4: Let me ask you this, you're a good judge of

521
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 4: clubhouse demeanor and the atmosphere and clubhouses right now, Mets

522
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:34,960
Speaker 4: came out really hot, and they understand who they are.

523
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Speaker 4: They've played really well. For one, do you think they've

524
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Speaker 4: exceeded expectations earlier in this uh start to the baseball season?

525
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Speaker 4: And how do you think the clubhouse demeanor is right now?

526
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:46,479
Speaker 4: I mean you're in there every day, you and I.

527
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 4: You can talk about that all the time, remember.

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Speaker 1: Sure, sure I do remember, And uh yeah, you know,

529
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Speaker 1: I think they've exceeded You know, they got off to

530
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Speaker 1: that such a great start, and you knew that wasn't

531
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Speaker 1: going to keep up at that pace, and you look

532
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Speaker 1: at what they've done here over the last twenty one

533
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Speaker 1: to twenty two games that they've played right around I

534
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Speaker 1: think they are a game under five hundred their last

535
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Speaker 1: twenty one games here, so you know they're they're in

536
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Speaker 1: a little bit of a little bit of a rut here.

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Speaker 1: The biggest thing has been they leave a ton of

538
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Speaker 1: guys on base. They haven't hit well with runners in

539
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 1: scoring position. And the last time I checked, there were

540
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Speaker 1: twenty fifth in the major leagues hitting with runners in

541
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Speaker 1: scoring positions. So that they've been they've been very good

542
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:36,439
Speaker 1: guy getting guys on base. But you know, it always

543
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 1: just some of these losses that they're just one hit

544
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 1: short here in the clubhouse demeanor. You know, like I said,

545
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Speaker 1: I go back to Lindor and as the guy, a

546
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 1: lot of these guys rally around Brandon Nimo's certainly been

547
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 1: around long enough. You played with him, Todd, you know

548
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:59,720
Speaker 1: what he's all about. You know there's there's some good

549
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 1: eggs in that room. So I won't't expect the clubhouse

550
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:04,960
Speaker 1: demeanor to go south.

551
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Speaker 2: Mike, what are your expectations as a media member when

552
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 2: you're covering a superstar player, for example, you know it

553
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 2: was written about how Sodo didn't it wasn't available a

554
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 2: couple of times over the weekend, where ideally you would

555
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 2: get a little more time with him. And also when

556
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Speaker 2: we say media time, I mean, what are we talking

557
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:30,480
Speaker 2: five ish minutes? Usually here when a guy shows up

558
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:33,960
Speaker 2: to a scrum, maybe ten tops. But curious as to

559
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Speaker 2: your take of covering baseball for a while, covering this

560
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 2: team for a while, if you felt like Juan Soto

561
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Speaker 2: was slighting the media or if this was just something

562
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Speaker 2: that comes across your world all the time. I certainly

563
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Speaker 2: mentioned early in the show, I've never been a beat guy,

564
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,720
Speaker 2: but I did do a lot in clubhouses when I

565
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 2: was working for the league. We had guys show up

566
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 2: late or say, oh I can't do it now, you know,

567
00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 2: we had things pop up all the time. It gets

568
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Speaker 2: magnified when it's the seven sixty five Mili man.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it gets magnified with so. But and I found

570
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 1: with the Mets it's very seldom you want to talk

571
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 1: to a player that that player won't cooperate. So the

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00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 1: Soto thing the other night was a little befuddling because

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Speaker 1: you don't see that much where guys just completely blow

574
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Speaker 1: off the media. And you know, the post game, you're talking,

575
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Speaker 1: you're talking, you know, sometimes it's even less than two minutes.

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Speaker 1: You know, you're talking like sometimes these guys talking ninety seconds,

577
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Speaker 1: three minutes, you know, five five minutes would be long

578
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Speaker 1: a long media session post game to talk to a player,

579
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Speaker 1: but you know, with the Mets, it's very rare that

580
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Speaker 1: somebody leaves without speaking if they're requested. So and you know,

581
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:52,080
Speaker 1: that was part of the I think that was part

582
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Speaker 1: of the reason Soto was requested to speak last night

583
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Speaker 1: was because he had He had left Sunday night without speaking,

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Speaker 1: so it was so to his credit he did speak

585
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 1: last night. And uh, you know, he said, you know,

586
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:12,880
Speaker 1: and as far as the ball off the wall, he

587
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,719
Speaker 1: said he didn't think his hustle was an issue. Callos

588
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Speaker 1: Mendoza said, he you know something, they'll they'll speak, they'll.

589
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Speaker 2: Talk about last one for you. How do you think

590
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 2: that goes knowing Mandy for the last couple of seasons

591
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Speaker 2: now and now covering the Sodo side of this equation,

592
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 2: is that normal or would usually you expect to hear

593
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 2: a player go, yeah, well, we'll talk about it. I mean,

594
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Speaker 2: it sounded like he kind of defended himself and said no,

595
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Speaker 2: I'm good.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And you know what, and that's Soto's personality. And

597
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Speaker 1: I go back to, you know something last week where

598
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Speaker 1: Mendoza called Soto into the office after Tuesday last Tuesday's

599
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 1: game and said, you know, you're I don't want you

600
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Speaker 1: to play once they were going to give you a rest,

601
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Speaker 1: and Soto defended himself to the hilt that he wanted

602
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:04,480
Speaker 1: to play, that he you know, he should be in

603
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 1: the line and Mendoza said, you know, it's all well

604
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Speaker 1: and good, but I make the lineup. You're not starting

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Speaker 1: tomorrow night. And that was it. So, you know, Mendoza,

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Speaker 1: I think Mendoz has got a firm grip of the

607
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Speaker 1: situation here. I've been impressed with his communication skills. He's

608
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Speaker 1: willing to hear guys out. But you know, at the

609
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 1: end of the day, he's the one running the ship.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's the hafe. He's a hafe. He's the big boss.

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Speaker 2: He's running that clubhouse. That dougout Mike, This was great.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for stopping by. Check out Mike's work at

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Speaker 2: the post. Also give him a follow on Twitter. Appreciate

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Speaker 2: at my post underscore Mets.

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Speaker 3: Thank you Mike, guys, thanks for having me on