1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:01,840 Speaker 1: All right, this is Darwin James and you listen to 2 00:00:01,840 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 1: the Chargers podcast network. What's up, guys. Chris Hary with 3 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 1: you on a new episode of Chargers Weekly, and this 4 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:16,680 Speaker 1: is gonna be a good one. We got a chance 5 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:19,319 Speaker 1: to catch up with Daniel Jeremiah. Of course he's the 6 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:23,239 Speaker 1: Chargers radio analyst, but he's also the lead draft analyst 7 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:26,799 Speaker 1: for NFL Network. We talked to him about his experience 8 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 1: on draft day, as well as all six members of 9 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 1: the Chargers twenty twenty draft class. Always great catching up 10 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:38,240 Speaker 1: with DJ. Hope you guys enjoy all right, very please 11 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:42,159 Speaker 1: be joined by Daniel Jeremiah. Yes, he's the Chargers radio analyst, 12 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 1: but he's also the lead draft analyst for NFL Network. 13 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 1: And it was ESPN a couple of weeks ago. DJ, 14 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 1: you did an amazing job. What was it like to 15 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 1: do all of this remotely and doing it with ESPN? 16 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 1: It was It was a really cool deal. Yeah, it 17 00:00:56,880 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 1: was ended up being something that was really positive. You know, 18 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 1: you didn't know how it was all going to come 19 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 1: together because we're all in a unique situation that we're 20 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:05,680 Speaker 1: all home, and then you add into the fact that 21 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:09,039 Speaker 1: we're working with you know, different producers, different you know, 22 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 1: different guys on the talent side. But the good news is, 23 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:13,119 Speaker 1: you know, we've all known each other, we've all been 24 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 1: friends for a long time. So I was happy, you 25 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 1: know with the way it all came out with, you know, 26 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 1: technically not having many bitches, and the teams were able 27 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 1: to stay right on pace as we went to the draft, 28 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 1: and it ended up being just a lot of fun. 29 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:28,120 Speaker 1: I think it was something that we all needed just 30 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 1: to kind of feel sports, you know in some capacity, 31 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 1: which we were able to do during the draft. It 32 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:33,960 Speaker 1: was a lot of fun. Yeah, it was fun. It 33 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 1: was fun to see the gms and coaches and kids 34 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:39,559 Speaker 1: and dogs and families. You know, it's it's not something 35 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 1: you see every Thursday, Friday and Saturday. Easier during the draft, yeah, 36 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 1: no doubt. And to LESCo, I mean, I mean, I 37 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 1: don't know, I don't think he has an interior decorating, 38 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 1: but it's nicely done. I'm just gonna put it to 39 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 1: you that way. Topic is a very nice looking spot 40 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 1: he's got there, so very nicely done. Dobb has some 41 00:01:57,200 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 1: good background and he selected number six overall. Justin Herbert 42 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 1: Justin's draft evaluation process, you go Senior Bowl. You have 43 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 1: a great Senior Bowl, the Combine, and then his Pro Day, 44 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 1: which you were at. What was it about Justin's kind 45 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:15,359 Speaker 1: of draft offseason that you think kind of propelled him 46 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 1: into the top six? Well, I don't know if you 47 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 1: could have done any better. And that's just the stuff 48 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 1: we saw on the field and the workouts, you know, 49 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:25,799 Speaker 1: and then the Senior Bowl. What actually helped him even 50 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 1: more was meeting with teams and they came away just 51 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 1: impressed out. Obviously how smart he was. We knew he 52 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 1: was going to be smart, but the passion that he 53 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 1: had for the game, and I think he's got kind 54 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 1: of a little bit of that reserve persona when you're 55 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 1: from the outside, and I think as people got to 56 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 1: know him, they realized he's got a little more juice 57 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 1: to him than maybe you anticipated. So I think that 58 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:47,920 Speaker 1: helped him. And then when you watched him during the season, 59 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 1: I thought you saw somebody that was just getting better 60 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 1: and better as the year one along. So everything kind 61 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 1: of built up to that crescendo to get him to 62 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 1: where he ended up in the draft. How do you 63 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:58,920 Speaker 1: think he's going to fit into this offense? DJ with 64 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 1: Shane Steken as the offensive coordinator now permanently. Anthony Lynn 65 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 1: obviously has some West Coast offense ties, and then you 66 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 1: bring in a guy like pet Hamilton to beat your quarterbacks. Coach, 67 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 1: how do you think Justin's gonna fit in with this group? 68 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be fine. You know. I think 69 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 1: it's it's a little bit naive for any of us 70 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 1: to say, like, how is he fit into this offense? 71 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 1: I don't know, we've seen this offense, right. I think 72 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 1: the a combination of some of the things we've seen 73 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 1: in the past with you know, Philip Rivers and that 74 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 1: version of this Chargers offense. I think Anthony Lynn, Coach Lynn, 75 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 1: what he's been around, go back to those Broncos teams, 76 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 1: you know, bringing in some of the wide zone game 77 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 1: that you're going to see come over with coach Campin 78 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 1: coming over to coach the offensive line, and then you 79 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 1: sprinkle in the mobility you have now with Tyrod Taylor. 80 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 1: You know, starting at the beginning of the season, it 81 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 1: looks like with Justin Herbert pushing him, it's going to 82 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 1: allow you a lot more movement and some design quarterback 83 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 1: run games. So I think everything on paper looks like 84 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 1: Justin Herbert is going to be a beautiful fit with 85 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 1: what they want to do. But I'm excited just to 86 00:03:57,120 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 1: see what this offense looks like period, even if it's 87 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 1: with Tyrod or with Justin Herbert, because I think it's 88 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 1: gonna be a little different than what Charger fans are 89 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 1: used to. It definitely is. And you know, draft night, 90 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 1: so I was doing all my prep work on Justin 91 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 1: getting ready for his press conference everything. I look up 92 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 1: Chargers back on the clock at number twenty three overall 93 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:18,479 Speaker 1: and they get Kenneth Murray from Oklahoma. This was a 94 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 1: guy Coach Lynn really watered on this football team, and 95 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:25,160 Speaker 1: now you have Joey Bosa, Darwin James, and Kenneth Murray 96 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 1: is kind of the leaders on each unit of the defense. Yeah. 97 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 1: I like the way you describe it, because really it's 98 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:33,839 Speaker 1: three levels, right. You want to have impact, difference making 99 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 1: players at all three levels. And the cool thing about 100 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 1: it is when you look at some of the things 101 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 1: they can do on third down, you're gonna have an 102 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 1: opportunity where at times you're gonna see you know, Bosa 103 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 1: kick inside and then if you look down the middle 104 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:47,599 Speaker 1: of that defense for the charges. You could be going 105 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 1: Bosa Murray, Darwin James, you know at different times, how 106 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:53,040 Speaker 1: you can align them in so many different ways. They're 107 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:56,600 Speaker 1: all versatile players, but just think about that athleticism to 108 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:59,040 Speaker 1: not only pressure the quarterback up the middle, but anything 109 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 1: that goes to the side line at different levels of 110 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 1: the defense. Having Kenneth Murray, who's you know, who runs 111 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 1: you know a low four five high four four sprinting 112 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 1: sideline to sideline. Derwin James with his four four speed 113 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 1: sprinting sideline to sideline, you can really really branch out 114 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 1: from the middle of the field and cover a lot 115 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:17,719 Speaker 1: of grass with that group. So it's gonna be exciting 116 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:19,479 Speaker 1: to watch. And as good of a player as he is, 117 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 1: I'm telling you, Chris, like this is not just a 118 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:25,599 Speaker 1: Charger thing. Talking to their coaches, everybody I talked to 119 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 1: around the league said, best interview process we've ever had 120 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 1: with a player like he was off the charts. So 121 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 1: that leadership, that personality, you're gonna feel Kenneth Murray on 122 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 1: that defense. Yeah, And that was the big thing Coach 123 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:41,839 Speaker 1: Lynn said, is like, this was a guy that just 124 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:44,599 Speaker 1: was off the charts impressive at the combine in the 125 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:47,840 Speaker 1: interviews and to move up to give up a second 126 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 1: in a third round. It just shows you how much 127 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:52,839 Speaker 1: they value what Kenneth Murray can do on the football field, 128 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 1: but also in the locker room, because you're gonna need 129 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:57,919 Speaker 1: leaders like that to kind of look at and it 130 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 1: may not be in your one or two is Tom 131 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 1: was saying, but you look at projecting leadership. This is 132 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:05,599 Speaker 1: the guy who could do that for a long time. Yeah, 133 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 1: And I don't want to put the comparison on him, 134 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 1: but I mean, if you follow the Chargers in their history, 135 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 1: think about the leadership they've had at that position, the 136 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 1: energy that a guy like Junior say, I Broad, it's 137 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 1: not just what you're saying with your words, it's with 138 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:20,839 Speaker 1: the way that you play with your hair on fire, 139 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 1: just playing like a maniac with passion. And I think 140 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 1: Kenneth Murray plays that way. So that's gonna just that's 141 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:30,720 Speaker 1: really gonna feed into this defense. And you know, really, 142 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 1: Derwin James, I would make the case not only is 143 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 1: the best safety in the NFL, I think he brings 144 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:39,239 Speaker 1: the most energy, the most juice to his group. And 145 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:41,840 Speaker 1: now you get another guy that brings that and then 146 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 1: we know what with with Botha and Ingram what they 147 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 1: can do up front end. Hopefully you're gonna see Jerry Tillery. 148 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 1: Now with a weird offseason, mind you, but a full 149 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 1: offseason to train and get healthy and get out there 150 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 1: and have an impact on this defense. I mean, like 151 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 1: Drew Trank will think about that when you're gonna when 152 00:06:57,120 --> 00:06:59,040 Speaker 1: you're gonna be able to go. Nobody around the country 153 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 1: knows about this kid but away. And that's common. I mean, 154 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:06,600 Speaker 1: and that's something that you know, we see it every 155 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 1: week watching these games, but nationally, people are gonna see 156 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 1: how good your Trank is going to be in this 157 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 1: defense and him and Keneth Murray is gonna be fun 158 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 1: to watch. Yeah, it's gonna be exciting to see what 159 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 1: this defense is gonna look like home Week one. All right, 160 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 1: fourth round. I had to give you credit because you 161 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 1: brought up some great points about Joshua Kelly from UCLA. Obviously, 162 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 1: he was the bell cow at UCLA, but at the 163 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 1: Senior Bowl he kind of showcased his ability to catch 164 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:32,559 Speaker 1: the ball out of the backfield some past protection stuff. 165 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 1: We talked to him about that and he said, just 166 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 1: because you weren't asked to do it doesn't mean you 167 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 1: can't do it. What are the Chargers getting in Joshua 168 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 1: Kelly kind of a guy to I don't want to 169 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 1: say replace Melvin Gordon, but to really compliment Austin Ekeler. Well, 170 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 1: I think some of the things we talked about personality 171 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 1: wise with Kenneth Murray and you see the same things 172 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 1: when you look at Joshua Kelly. Joshua Kelly's always going 173 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 1: to smile on his face. Talk to Chip Kelly about him. 174 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 1: He said, look, were giving him so many carries. We 175 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 1: had to give him a break. So that's why we 176 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 1: didn't involve him and use him as much in the 177 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 1: passing game. But he said, we did it every day 178 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 1: in practice. He's actually really good at I said, coach, 179 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 1: I was at the Senior Bowl. He was fantastic in 180 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 1: the past game, Like, I know what he can do 181 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 1: these things, So he's going to get a chance to 182 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 1: show off that side of his game. But then he 183 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 1: just runs so hard and he's just so tough, So 184 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 1: you know, I think he's going to be a perfect fit. 185 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 1: When you look at the collection of backs now that 186 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 1: you have not one with Austin but with Justin and 187 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 1: now you throw josh In there like, that's three guys 188 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 1: you can all get out and the route can all 189 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 1: catch the ball. They're all tough, So there's gonna be 190 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 1: a nice mix there with the committee, I think this 191 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:39,560 Speaker 1: coming season. And we saw it earlier in the year 192 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 1: last year DJ when Melvin wasn't there, when Justin was healthy, 193 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:46,960 Speaker 1: him and Austin, they had some success running the football 194 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 1: and catching the ball out of the backfield. If Justin 195 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 1: can stay healthy, this kind of three headed attack could 196 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 1: be the way to go. Yeah, I think so, and 197 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 1: I think that's what a lot of the league has 198 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 1: gone to. You know. I'm just I thought it was 199 00:08:57,400 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 1: smart by Tom to get Austin locked in, you know, 200 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 1: to get that contract done and really know you can 201 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:06,080 Speaker 1: build around him in the future. But I think you're 202 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 1: going to see a lot of opportunities for these guys 203 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 1: to be on the field at the same time. You know, 204 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 1: get two of those guys on the field, and we 205 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:14,439 Speaker 1: saw it last year be pretty successful, especially early in 206 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:16,560 Speaker 1: the season. And now you can roll Josh into that. 207 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:19,439 Speaker 1: So it's gonna be fun to see what Shane can 208 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 1: do creatively. Now when you add what we talked about 209 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 1: previously with the really mobile quarterback that you have to 210 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:28,440 Speaker 1: you know, react to and account for on the back 211 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 1: bed in case he pulls it. And now you could 212 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 1: be in a situation where Austin's lined up in the slot, 213 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 1: Josh is in the backfield and do a lot of 214 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:37,080 Speaker 1: different things there as well as justin Mixon and doing 215 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:39,079 Speaker 1: his thing all right. In the fifth round, we know 216 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 1: about Mike Williams and Keenan Allen. You get another wide 217 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 1: receiver and Joe Reid, someone who can kind of take 218 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 1: the top off the defense, can really good in the 219 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:49,320 Speaker 1: kick return game and the special teams game. I talked 220 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 1: to Bronco Mendenhall right after the he was selected and 221 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 1: he said, this is a guy that really can do 222 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:56,320 Speaker 1: it all for us, kind of a Swiss Army knife 223 00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 1: type receiver. How do you see him kind of fitting 224 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:02,079 Speaker 1: into this offense potentially? Now we talk about it on 225 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 1: the Movie six podcast with our buddy Bucky Brooks. We 226 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 1: talk about, you know, kind of that wing back right 227 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 1: that's kind of like that Deebo Samuel role. Somebody that 228 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 1: you line up, get him fly sweeps, somebody you could 229 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 1: put in the backfield even and just get the ball 230 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 1: in his hands for what he does after the catch. Obviously, 231 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 1: his return ability speaks for itself. So he's just a guy. 232 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 1: You just want to get the ball in his hands 233 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 1: and then let him go. I know the time, and 234 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:27,839 Speaker 1: I think people look at the forty time and think, oh, 235 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:30,080 Speaker 1: you know, take the top off the defense and a 236 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:33,079 Speaker 1: vertical stretch receiver. I think he's more of a run 237 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:34,959 Speaker 1: after the catch. Get the ball in his hands and 238 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 1: let him create and make some things happen. So that's 239 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 1: a quarterback's best friend. When you can throw a five 240 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 1: yard pass it ends up going fifty sixty yards, like, 241 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 1: he gives you some of that ability. Six round. Alohi Gilman, 242 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 1: another member of the Irish going on this defense. Only 243 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:53,200 Speaker 1: have four guys from Notre Dame. When you lose guys 244 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:56,960 Speaker 1: like Derek Watt and Adrian Phillips from a special team standpoint, 245 00:10:57,280 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 1: I think Aloe can help in that regard. But also 246 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 1: bry Kelly was talking about just he was an inspirational 247 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:05,960 Speaker 1: leader in that locker room. Just another guy to add 248 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:08,959 Speaker 1: to this secondary DJ. Yeah, I think you know you 249 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 1: kind of target that Adrian Phillips role. You know, that's 250 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 1: what he's got to, you know, try and go after 251 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 1: when he gets a chance to get into camp and compete. 252 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 1: That's the spot you're hoping to be where you can 253 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 1: have an impact on third and fourth down. And this 254 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 1: is somebody that I got better closer to the line 255 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:25,080 Speaker 1: of scrimmage. He plays bigger than his size. He's a 256 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 1: really good tackler in that regard, so and he flies around. 257 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:31,559 Speaker 1: So to me, that's kind of his perfect role. He's 258 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 1: going to find his niche kind of playing those sub 259 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 1: packages and then out there covering kicks. And again, another 260 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 1: guy energy. You know, I'm big on that, and I 261 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 1: think they did a nice job throughout this draft class 262 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 1: getting guys that really bring a lot of energy. And 263 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 1: finally kJ Hill in the seventh round, a guy that 264 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 1: was at the Senior Bowl, the all time receptions leader 265 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:52,559 Speaker 1: at Ohio State. Were you surprised that kJ Hill went 266 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 1: in the seventh round? Yeah, I mean I would have 267 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 1: thought he would have gone, you know, much earlier than that. 268 00:11:57,160 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 1: But we just had so much depth in this classic 269 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 1: quality player that would would kind of slip down the board. 270 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 1: And h I mean you talk about I would say 271 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:08,079 Speaker 1: probably the top three or four in the entire draft class. 272 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 1: You're just talking about hands like he's got unbelievable hands, 273 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 1: catches everything. You can make a highlight rule of just 274 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 1: his one handed catches at a highway, tremendous value of 275 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 1: being able to get him where you did. And I 276 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 1: think somebody that can, you know, hopefully Keenan Allen can 277 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 1: kind of take him under his wing because he's somebody 278 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:28,839 Speaker 1: that man. He's the really good route, phenomenal hands and 279 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 1: that's you know, that's the that's the standard, right if 280 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 1: you're if you're coming in and you have that skill 281 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 1: set that kJ Hill has, man, just follow around Keenan 282 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:40,720 Speaker 1: and mirror him and watch him and study him, because 283 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 1: that's the type of receiver you want to become if 284 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:46,200 Speaker 1: you're kJ Hill, somebody that runs Christine routes and catches everything. 285 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:48,719 Speaker 1: DJ final Fife for you because we didn't get to 286 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 1: talk to you about the three agent class and how 287 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 1: this class may kind of help bolster this team is 288 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 1: they look to get back into the playoffs in twenty twenty. 289 00:12:57,440 --> 00:13:01,840 Speaker 1: Talk about guys like Brian Volaga, Trey Turney in a trade, Lindvall, 290 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 1: Joseph Chris Harris Junior. Would you make of some of 291 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 1: the guys that they brought in well, I thought it 292 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 1: was I thought it was a really good haul. And 293 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 1: I think you get guys that not only kind of 294 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 1: fill some needs, but I think fit You know, I 295 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 1: think about that defense and adding Terris, this defense needed 296 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 1: to make more plays on the ball, and now you 297 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:22,960 Speaker 1: bring in somebody that's got outstanding ball skills, that can 298 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 1: play inside, that can play outside. I think he's going 299 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:27,840 Speaker 1: to fit in beautifully. And quite honestly, I just hope 300 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 1: we get a training camp practices with him and Keenan, 301 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 1: you know their history. You get a chance to watch 302 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 1: those guys compete. Would be a lot of fun, selfishly speaking. 303 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 1: But and then Lindball is somebody that can come in 304 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:38,719 Speaker 1: there when you're gonna be playing a team like the 305 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 1: Raiders that want to, you know, get in two backs 306 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:43,200 Speaker 1: and try and try and jam the ball down your throat. 307 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 1: He's going to really come into play with what he 308 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 1: can do. And then you get the two new pieces 309 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 1: you mentioned on the offensive line that are veterans that 310 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 1: have been through a lot of battles. And I think 311 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:55,440 Speaker 1: when you look at those guys being able to hopefully 312 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 1: groom and mentor some of the young talent that you 313 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:01,680 Speaker 1: have on that offensive line, The biggest challenge really in 314 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 1: this kind of unpreced at a time is for this 315 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 1: offensive line to find a way to come together and gel. 316 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 1: That can be a little bit difficult with the you know, 317 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 1: with the lack of the off season. But I think 318 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 1: you got some some real smart, real tough for a 319 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 1: productive Veterans can't wait to see these guys on the 320 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 1: grass band. We're spoiled to have you in the Chargers 321 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 1: family breaking down the draft class for us band. Hopefully 322 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 1: you get some rest over the next couple of weeks. No, 323 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 1: I appreciate you, brother. I would just give you one 324 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 1: bit of advice. If I graduated from Northwestern, I'm putting 325 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 1: that thing on the top shelf so that I don't 326 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 1: get cut off by half of the body there. I mean, 327 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 1: that's something that you're proud of. Don't hide it. I 328 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 1: feel like you're trying to scoot over and hide that 329 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 1: Northwestern I'm trying to get. I'm just trying to get 330 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 1: selling Joe to get Sullivan is a little more Carrot's 331 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 1: good looking. That is a good looking dog. You are 332 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 1: easily the second prettiest face I'm looking at right now. 333 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 1: I can tell you that DJ appreciated brother seebuddy. All right, 334 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 1: that's gonna do it for us. A big thanks to 335 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 1: DJ for joining me, and of course thanks to you 336 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 1: guys for listening now. If you get a chance, we 337 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 1: had a two night virtual event Meet the twenty twenty 338 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 1: Draft class with Jim Hill and myself and all six rookies. 339 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 1: If you didn't see it, we're gonna have the podcast 340 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 1: version later on Friday for you to listen to both 341 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 1: part one and part two, so be on the lookout 342 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 1: for that. Have a great weekend and until next time, 343 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 1: I'm Chris Hayrey.