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Getting to 19 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 1: the Truth has opened to Pandora's box of secrets, exposing 20 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 1: abuse of power and a world of lies at one 21 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 1: Miami monastery. I mean the woman will stab my need 22 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:24,680 Speaker 1: plus times. There's gotta be something else going on here. 23 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:29,400 Speaker 1: Listen to Sacred Scandal on the I Heart Radio app, 24 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:38,320 Speaker 1: Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome to 25 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 1: Money Making Conversations. It's the show that she has the 26 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 1: secrets of success experience firsthand by marketing a Brandon expert 27 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 1: Rashan McDonald. I will know he's given me advice to 28 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 1: many occasions. In the case you didn't notice, I'm not broke, 29 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 1: you know he'll be interviewing celebrity CEO, entrepreneurs and industry 30 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 1: decision makers. It's what he likes to do. It's what 31 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 1: he likes to share. Now it's time to hear from 32 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 1: my man, rash mc money Making Conversations here we welcome 33 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 1: to Money Making Conversation. I'm your host with Sean McDonald. 34 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 1: It's time to stop reading to other people's success story. 35 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 1: You hear me tell everyone every week that's my opening mantram, 36 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 1: and I also tell you just start writing your own 37 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 1: stories because it's your story. Nobody else can write. A 38 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 1: lot of people see a dream, other people's opportunities, see 39 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 1: other athletes, they see other actors, they see other entrepreneurs, 40 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 1: that's their story. In order for you to be successful, 41 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 1: you have to write your own story. And I always 42 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 1: tell you to leave with your gifts. Gifts can be 43 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 1: your passion and don't let your age, friends, family, or 44 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 1: coworkers stop you from planning or living your dreams. The 45 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 1: interviews are do on money making conversations involved celebrities, CEOs, entrepreneurs, 46 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:44,360 Speaker 1: and industry decision makers. My next guest is what I 47 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 1: like to call an industry decision maker. She's a she 48 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 1: changes the game. My name is Dr Don Brown. Dr 49 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 1: Don Brown is a double board certified Child, Adolescent, Adult 50 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 1: and Sports Psychiatrists. That's a lot. Let me see that 51 00:02:57,800 --> 00:02:59,959 Speaker 1: one more time. Dr Brown is a double boards or 52 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:03,799 Speaker 1: the five child, Adolescent, Adult and Sports Psychiatrists. Reason. I 53 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 1: bringing up because my daughter, she was a tenis prodigy 54 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 1: of sixteen, and I know that we had to use 55 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 1: a person like this services because when you get into sports, 56 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 1: you question yourself a lot and then you could be 57 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:18,519 Speaker 1: your an injury. You can come in and play, and 58 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 1: so it's a lot of things that physical and many 59 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:24,639 Speaker 1: the many mental aspects of that athleticism and also in 60 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 1: everyday life that comes into play. She's also a pioneer 61 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 1: of the mental health movement and then nationally recognize two 62 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 1: time number one best selling author Forbes. Right there, a 63 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 1: d h D coach, mental health expert, and public speaker. 64 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 1: We're going to discuss with Dr Brown why she chose 65 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 1: psychiatry as our specialty, how to prioritize your health and 66 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 1: the stigma regarding mental health. That's a big one right there. 67 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 1: Plus Dr Brown's secrets to being a successful serial entrepreneur. 68 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 1: You know this money main conversation, you know how to 69 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 1: bring that up. Please working to money making conversations. She's 70 00:03:57,160 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 1: living in Houston, straight out of flat Michigan, Dr On Brown, 71 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 1: how are you doing? Dr Brown? Mr Sean, thank you 72 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 1: so much for having me. It's a pleasure to be here. 73 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 1: I'm doing great. Thank you for well. First of all, 74 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 1: you look fair, task got that got money green on? 75 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 1: You got money green On Now I'd said it a 76 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 1: little bit earlier. Flip Michigan. We know what's going on 77 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 1: up there now, just not the story about trying to 78 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:22,600 Speaker 1: get find out what's going on with the drinking water. 79 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:24,839 Speaker 1: But it is a part of your past and part 80 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 1: of your life because I'm sure your relative stealing up there. 81 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 1: Now you're in Houston, Texas, and we just came out 82 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 1: that freeze storm to basically shut down the state of 83 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 1: Texas and and saw how they weren't prepared and what 84 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 1: we call a state dis supposed to have they act together. 85 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 1: That's the State of Texas. And we're still dealing with 86 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 1: the consequences of that freeze that really caused the loss 87 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 1: of a lot of lives. And that's important. So when 88 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 1: you're dealing with that, That's all the reason I bring 89 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 1: this up is that those situations cause mental stress. The 90 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 1: flip mission that you Michigan situation where people are drinking water, 91 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 1: they have to worry if that war that's going to 92 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 1: cause a deformity and a childbirthing situation or cut short 93 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 1: their life where their children grow up, where they affect 94 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:10,839 Speaker 1: their brain or they grow they or their growth patterns. 95 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 1: That's Flint Michigan. Then you deal with the free situation 96 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 1: that happened in Texas and people are still trying to 97 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 1: recover from the mental I guess I want to say 98 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 1: effect of trust. Uh, will it happened again? Will I 99 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 1: be prepared to happen with that? Talk about the whole 100 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:32,160 Speaker 1: mental makeup of people in general when stress comes into 101 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:36,039 Speaker 1: their life. It's a very interesting question you bring up, 102 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 1: and even to mention Hurricane Harvey in there as well. 103 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 1: Write in the comparisons, you know, trauma can be a 104 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 1: blessing and a curse. It's actually silverlignement trauma. And how 105 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:48,720 Speaker 1: I say that is because it's obvious the curse, right, 106 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:53,280 Speaker 1: the traumatic experience that people can experience with, how traumatizing 107 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:57,040 Speaker 1: the situation and condition experience could be for someone, How 108 00:05:57,120 --> 00:05:59,719 Speaker 1: that affects the mentality, how they affects their emotional health, 109 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:02,719 Speaker 1: their physical health. And then just like you're saying their 110 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 1: trust factor, you know what's gonna happen next is the 111 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:09,119 Speaker 1: Bob'm gonna drop out again. I cannot be happy because 112 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:11,920 Speaker 1: I know something bad is going to happen. But then 113 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 1: it is. It's the blessing. Many people have, you know, 114 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 1: been motivated by trauma. You know, the determination, the diligence, 115 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:24,159 Speaker 1: the drive, the resilience of trauma, right, and so wanting 116 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:27,679 Speaker 1: to motivate yourself out of a situation, find the tools 117 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:30,720 Speaker 1: and the keys necessary to do so, and never stop 118 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:34,279 Speaker 1: giving up. So, but but then the baggage is still there, 119 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 1: and if you don't address if you don't deal with it, 120 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:40,280 Speaker 1: it can actually affect your mental health particularly and leave 121 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 1: a lot of starters. Well, let's talk about the mental 122 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 1: health from the standpoint of just day to day living. 123 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 1: Let's talk about the minority community and where we all 124 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:53,040 Speaker 1: know in the minority community kind of huns from showing weaknesses, 125 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 1: and some people feel that if you admit that you 126 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 1: have a mental illness, then you are weak, that you 127 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 1: are showing a flaw. A flaw all that can that 128 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:06,280 Speaker 1: can have people measure you based on your credibility. Your 129 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 1: sustainability is far as what you can do with your life. Now, 130 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 1: let's let's backtrack a little bit about the minority community 131 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 1: in Houston, Texas. I'm just using the Houston, Texas as 132 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 1: an example because I forgot about Hyricane Harvey. In twenty seventeen. 133 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 1: Hyricane Harvey happens, twity devastated the city of Houston. That's 134 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 1: minorities who would affected the most minorities. Then you move 135 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 1: forward into and COVID hit on top of devastated the 136 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 1: minority community. Okay, then the George Floyd's situation came out, 137 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 1: riding on social and civil unrest. Still on top of that, 138 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 1: you were dealing with COVID nineteen. How do you deal 139 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 1: with that? No vaccination? Then we move into Texas, then 140 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 1: we did the still on top of that, no vaccination 141 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 1: yet the big Texas freeze hit. Who did it affect 142 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 1: the most minorities? Okay, now we're coming out. We have 143 00:07:57,280 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 1: a vaccination set up when we can getvaccinated, and minorities 144 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 1: are one of the slowest group. They want to get vaccinated. 145 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 1: So that's what the trust comes in. But there's also 146 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 1: distress because not jobs are saying if you don't get vaccinated, 147 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 1: you may not have a job here anymore. Dr Brown, 148 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 1: the floor is yours now. You know, it's so much 149 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 1: to unpack there, right, because historically mental health, physical health, 150 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:32,200 Speaker 1: just medical and general medical health has not done people 151 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 1: of color due diligence, has not been justified, right, I mean, 152 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:40,479 Speaker 1: this is an actual industry that has actually been targeted 153 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:45,440 Speaker 1: towards people of color. Haven't been there, mistreated, um, not treated, 154 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:48,079 Speaker 1: not diagnosed properly. I mean, I can go on and 155 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 1: on and when you talk about mental health, all of 156 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 1: those factors play a role in it's few of us. 157 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 1: The lack of access, the lack of education coming from 158 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:59,599 Speaker 1: people like me that look like people who want to 159 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 1: hear information, you want help, but just don't know who 160 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 1: to trust, where to go to if they have the 161 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 1: financial need or the financial reasons of being able to go. UM. 162 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 1: I mean, it's just so much right, and so what 163 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 1: we try to do is we try to just started 164 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 1: one step at a time. UM, when you have insult 165 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:20,439 Speaker 1: after insult, um that you're saying rashan from you know, 166 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:23,959 Speaker 1: things outside of our controls, such as weather patterns and 167 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 1: you know the traumatic effects of Harvey in Houston, and 168 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 1: then like you're saying the power outs, the water out 169 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 1: EAGs here in Houston, and then you're talking about um 170 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 1: COVID nineteen and you're talking about people like look like 171 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 1: me that are you know, brutalized and murdered in the 172 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 1: street protests going on. I mean, it's insult after insults. 173 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:49,080 Speaker 1: So what happens to our emotional health? Traumatized? And it's 174 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 1: hard and if we don't do something about that, then 175 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 1: it could be actually jeopardizing and very dangerous because those 176 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 1: scars don't heal, they don't heal at all unless you 177 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:02,199 Speaker 1: address them. You know, you can have a physical wound 178 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 1: and you can actually see how the womb is is 179 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 1: how the skin, which is the largest organized system, can 180 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 1: actually do miraculous things. And just covering up that scar. 181 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 1: You may have something to remind you of that scar, 182 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 1: but it's not a wound that's open, it's cut, that's 183 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 1: not you know, vicious. But when you're talking about emotional 184 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:21,719 Speaker 1: health is something completely different, and a lot of the 185 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 1: scars actually can become generational, it can actually be triggering 186 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:28,439 Speaker 1: and actually can come up in different situations where you're 187 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:33,200 Speaker 1: not even thinking about it subconsciously. So, yes, emotional health 188 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 1: is just as equally as important as physical health, and 189 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 1: in our community people of color, we definitely have to 190 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 1: talk about Well, let's talk about that, because I really 191 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:46,599 Speaker 1: like that analogy of the open scar, a wound that 192 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 1: doesn't heal, because let's talk about that for missing because 193 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:52,679 Speaker 1: that's what happens from the mental lass. We can't see it, 194 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 1: so it cannot be acknowledged as a problem to the 195 00:10:56,920 --> 00:10:59,199 Speaker 1: everyday viewer or the every day i've you came in. 196 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:01,840 Speaker 1: If I came into the house and my daughter came 197 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 1: into the house and her knee was scarred, we go, 198 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:07,719 Speaker 1: what's wrong, Let's fix that. We put some salve on 199 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:11,320 Speaker 1: his some alcohol shild streams my dady, now though didn't 200 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:13,079 Speaker 1: put the band aids on. Then all of a sudden, 201 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 1: we'll watch it, make sure it doesn't get infected, and 202 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 1: then when it's when it's when it's repaired fully, then 203 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 1: we're comfortable again. Now, from a mental aspect, we don't 204 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:27,079 Speaker 1: see that. So if we did come in here and 205 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 1: we saw a wound on the side of your head, 206 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 1: and that's signified that you were having mental stress, then 207 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 1: we will know what to do. And guess what we 208 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:38,200 Speaker 1: would do, Dr Brown, We will want to fix that problem. 209 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:42,959 Speaker 1: But when it's mental, then all of a sudden, you know, 210 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 1: a lot of terms he crazy, he don't have good sense, 211 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 1: a lot of terms that I've heard in my neighborhood 212 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:52,200 Speaker 1: where you know that's don't don't, don't go dust to him, 213 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 1: that's the crazy to do it on the corner, you know, 214 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 1: walk pat walk fast past him. Because it was always 215 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:01,440 Speaker 1: deemed that somebody who was not who is mentally stressed, 216 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 1: was a person that you should stay away from in 217 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 1: the minority community. Am I right or wrong? No, You're 218 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 1: exactly a hundred percent right. I mean, a band aid 219 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 1: is to cover up a wound, just like a smile, 220 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 1: just cut up depression. Right. But again there's an historical 221 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 1: analogy here. We were taught not to show emotions, right, 222 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:23,840 Speaker 1: Think about slavery. If you showed a bit of emotion, 223 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:28,559 Speaker 1: then you were actually beaten, bruised, victimized, shunned all of 224 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 1: those things, right, And so we had to be strong 225 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:36,079 Speaker 1: um in order to survive that time period, in order 226 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 1: to make it to another day, in order to be okay. 227 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:42,559 Speaker 1: But again, historically we were taught to do that, and 228 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:45,959 Speaker 1: that's become generational part of the generational purse, if you 229 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 1: will that. Nowadays we steal many of us don't show 230 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 1: that emotion, right, And it's taught that if this is 231 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:57,079 Speaker 1: a sign of weakness, just like as a slave, it's 232 00:12:57,080 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 1: a signing weakness. You're not good enough, you're not built 233 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 1: well enough, all of these type of things. But I 234 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:05,319 Speaker 1: often tell my people of color, hey, you don't have 235 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 1: to do that anymore. That is back then. This is now. 236 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:12,199 Speaker 1: You have me to hear, to support you, your family 237 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 1: that loves you, hear the other support systems, and it's okay. 238 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:18,840 Speaker 1: It's okay not to have to smile all the time. 239 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 1: It's okay to cry, it's God's tears. Let you say, hey, 240 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:26,839 Speaker 1: I need an emotional release because I'm human. And back 241 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 1: then we weren't considered human, considered animals, we were considered victims, 242 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:34,320 Speaker 1: We were considered all these things that we couldn't actually 243 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 1: express ourselves. And part of that mentality is still again 244 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 1: a part of today's society, especially in people of the color. 245 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 1: But again even if we encourage for people like me 246 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 1: to encourage our people. Yet and still in different environments, atmosphere, work, 247 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:56,960 Speaker 1: whatever social circles, that mentality still exists. 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Slash podcasts are subscribed to Navigating Adoption 289 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 1: presented by adopt Us Kids, brought to you by the U. 290 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 1: S Department of Health and Human Services, Administration for Children 291 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 1: and Families and the Council. We know it's really interested 292 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 1: in just hearing you talk. Is that you know they 293 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 1: hear the words council, council culture, which I can't stand. 294 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 1: Are he worries about? You know? Why do we have 295 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 1: to worry by chance transgender? Why do you have to 296 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 1: worry by the issue, Why all these people coming out 297 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 1: of the closet because they have been afraid. They have 298 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 1: been afraid to live a life. So now we're their 299 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 1: mental health. We are afraid, and we're trying to erode 300 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 1: or or remove the barriers of fear. It's all right 301 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 1: to say you are depressed. It's all right to say 302 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 1: that you that you don't feel good, and and that 303 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:05,159 Speaker 1: you you're stressing, and that you this is you, you 304 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:07,879 Speaker 1: reach your moment, you need time for yourself. It's all 305 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:12,200 Speaker 1: right to take vacation away from your world. And so 306 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 1: I say that because when I talk to when I'm 307 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 1: talking to you, Dr Brown, take this stuff very personal 308 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 1: because of the fact that people can criticize, and people 309 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 1: don't know the power of criticism and really can stop 310 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:28,119 Speaker 1: a lot of people from seeking help. And am I 311 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 1: am I correct what I'm saying that, yes, yes you are. 312 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:34,640 Speaker 1: It is because not only do you have to consider 313 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 1: the criticism that comes externally, but how internally as well. 314 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 1: Right well, criticize ourselves, you know, and that's important. So 315 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 1: so because I you know, like I said, we have 316 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 1: a lot to talk about it, but I want to 317 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 1: just talk about that little partition. But I want to 318 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:52,119 Speaker 1: talk about the mental health athletics athletic centers that you 319 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:55,360 Speaker 1: have and and the services that they offer, and why 320 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:58,160 Speaker 1: was it important to you know, wrap put the word 321 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:01,360 Speaker 1: athletic and health together and maybe they understand it's all 322 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:04,119 Speaker 1: has always been one. You know, I don't care if 323 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 1: you Venus Williams or if you're Tom Brady. There is 324 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:12,680 Speaker 1: a psychology, there's a mental ability. There's been known that 325 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 1: that the reason Serena Williams has not one her gram 326 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:20,879 Speaker 1: Sleer record because she stresses out too much in the finals. 327 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:26,919 Speaker 1: And you said Serena Willims, yes, yes, stress and mental 328 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 1: breakdowns have cost her from achieving her dream of winning 329 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 1: all the last few Grand Slams that she's been in. 330 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:37,879 Speaker 1: And so even at that high level, how did you 331 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 1: come in with these clinics that you created a combined 332 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 1: health and athletics That reason right there you mentioned the mission. 333 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:48,720 Speaker 1: You know, I want athletes to understand that they're human 334 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:52,880 Speaker 1: just who happened to have athletic abilities, So we recognize 335 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:56,120 Speaker 1: them as human first, and a lot of times when 336 00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:59,400 Speaker 1: they were younger, you know, they were identified as athletes. 337 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:02,160 Speaker 1: So many of them don't even understand who they are. 338 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:04,920 Speaker 1: You know, they're trying to find your identity through it 339 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 1: all through their journey, and oftentimes that comes too late 340 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 1: during retirement, and that's where we see a lot of 341 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:14,159 Speaker 1: mental health conditions as well that may come up. But 342 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:17,200 Speaker 1: when you talk about an active athlete who is injured, 343 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:20,479 Speaker 1: who actually is trying to top last year's numbers, who 344 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:23,200 Speaker 1: is going for the three p I mean all of 345 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:27,679 Speaker 1: these pressures mental conditioning cannot deal with. I mean they 346 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 1: have mental health issues just like us. Actually, in a 347 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 1: matter of fact, more of them have mental health issues 348 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:36,720 Speaker 1: than the general population. So I thought it was critical 349 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:39,639 Speaker 1: too so they can understand that, Hey, I see you. 350 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:44,119 Speaker 1: You're human first. As a recognized psychiatrist, I'm here this issue. 351 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 1: All of you may not need medicine. All of you 352 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 1: may just need a listening ear. How about just wanting 353 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 1: to hear what you want in life? Right? Wanting to 354 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 1: understand what happened to last night's game that the interview 355 00:19:56,560 --> 00:20:00,240 Speaker 1: didn't address. There are criticizing you before you, but to 356 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:03,879 Speaker 1: even you know, process what's happened, so you know it 357 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 1: could be as little as that or as big as 358 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 1: an issue as having a family history of trauma that 359 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 1: got them out the neighborhood to go pro That was 360 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:14,119 Speaker 1: a part of their journey, right, So I wanted something 361 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:17,679 Speaker 1: that it can be all inclusive, that UM athletes can 362 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 1: take advantage of and working with someone like me, and 363 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:23,439 Speaker 1: that is trust. You know that they can trust let 364 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:25,680 Speaker 1: measure it. So so you were there for them. So 365 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 1: why did you I hear what you know just the 366 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 1: journey we were talking about now, but earlier when we 367 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 1: came out of high school we started going into college. 368 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:35,879 Speaker 1: What led you to this field, what led you this 369 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:40,199 Speaker 1: range of study? Why it came to me? Rashaan Um? 370 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 1: I actually um recently. I graduated from my child Fellowship 371 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 1: program at Baylor, and I was in private practice for 372 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:50,119 Speaker 1: about two too and a half years and a Houston 373 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:52,880 Speaker 1: Rocket player came to see me in my private practice 374 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 1: and here his wife came and he was as experiencing anxiety. 375 00:20:57,000 --> 00:21:00,200 Speaker 1: He didn't know what the terminology was at the time him, 376 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 1: but he actually said, I'm just I'm short of air 377 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 1: like I'm short of bread. I can't breathe, and these 378 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 1: are the conditions that lead to me not being able 379 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 1: to breathe. And so he was describing some of these 380 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 1: instances and we actually came up with the terminology that 381 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 1: identified him having patic attacks underneath the umbrella of having 382 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:23,680 Speaker 1: an anxiety disorder. And so that's how it started. And 383 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 1: you know the cools are so small, right, I mean, 384 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:31,880 Speaker 1: nowadays do you have different professional associations, um that are 385 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:35,119 Speaker 1: gun Hole for mental health mental awareness And I'm loving 386 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:38,440 Speaker 1: these initiatives that are now out. But back then, even 387 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 1: just six years ago, it was difficult for him to 388 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 1: come to me. He came with his wife his experiences 389 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:48,440 Speaker 1: for four or five years. It affected his game. It 390 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 1: affected his game to the point he's not even playing anymore. 391 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:54,960 Speaker 1: He could very well be playing, right. Um. So yes, 392 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:57,680 Speaker 1: that's how it say the thing about it. First of all, 393 00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:00,879 Speaker 1: when we talked about mental health and uh, because I 394 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:04,440 Speaker 1: I people always saying how do you juggle so much? 395 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 1: Because it's levels of stress, you know. And I also 396 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:10,639 Speaker 1: know how to walk away, you know, like I watched TV. 397 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 1: You know, you know you asked me on Netflix. I 398 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:16,639 Speaker 1: watched Netflix. You know, I watched Disney, you know, I 399 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 1: watched sports. So what I'm telling everybody is that what 400 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:23,720 Speaker 1: helps you is what walks you away from the stress. 401 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 1: And I remember when I bought the house in Atlanta 402 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:28,119 Speaker 1: and I told my wife, I said, I gotta be 403 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:30,920 Speaker 1: near water as she said. She said why, I said, 404 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 1: because I need to be able to walk out there 405 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:36,440 Speaker 1: and just see something simple. And and I remember we 406 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:39,119 Speaker 1: was I'm just telling everybody and just listen to how 407 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:43,119 Speaker 1: ideal would stress and because they're they're they're little tricks 408 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:45,680 Speaker 1: to it, and their tricks that you can do yourself. 409 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 1: But what I try to do myself is that I 410 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 1: try to make sure that every day looks different. In 411 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 1: other words, we was in a high rise dr Brown 412 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 1: and I started noticing that the tree tops look the 413 00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 1: same every day, and I told mar we can't stay here. 414 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:01,440 Speaker 1: She said, what I said, it looks the same. I said, 415 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:05,240 Speaker 1: I gotta have something that triggers my mind to be 416 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 1: creative into another journey. And so she said, okay, she's 417 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 1: that's dear prison. Now now it looks same every day. 418 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 1: I got trees like trees I used to account them. Okay, 419 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 1: So so what happens I think in a lot of things, 420 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:23,200 Speaker 1: and I'm talking to a professional and I'm talking to you, 421 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 1: is that how I deal with that and being able 422 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:28,640 Speaker 1: to deal with stress, deal with the inside, to deal 423 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 1: with depression. I tried to take myself in something normal. 424 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:35,920 Speaker 1: That's when I said normal go to the park, you know, 425 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:40,160 Speaker 1: go fishing, do normal things that are breaking the cycle 426 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 1: create a different conversation. And with people stress, they're stressing 427 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 1: because they're not breaking the norm. This is just Rashan 428 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:50,359 Speaker 1: McDonald's way of thinking about it. I just want to know, 429 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 1: have I been on the right path all these years? 430 00:23:52,720 --> 00:24:02,680 Speaker 1: Can you help me? Your doctor? Seriously, very insightful of 431 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 1: you to even bring that up, because it's about taking 432 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 1: a break from that has been my complete message to people. Um, 433 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 1: you gotta take breaks, and then you have to take 434 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:16,119 Speaker 1: a lot of them. Similar to you, Rashwan, I actually 435 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 1: relocated to another part of Houston because my primary goal 436 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 1: was to have a view of the city. In Michigan. 437 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:25,680 Speaker 1: I wanted a view of the city because that's what helps, 438 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:28,359 Speaker 1: you know, just really bring me back to reality. But 439 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:33,680 Speaker 1: I'm hearing different stories, traumatic story situations, people's anxieties, depression. 440 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 1: It's easy for me to take that on. So I 441 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 1: have to take a break. And having a view was 442 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:41,120 Speaker 1: very important and so that he'll determine where I am 443 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 1: and that has been a lifesaver for me. But you 444 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:48,400 Speaker 1: have to find something that's allowing you to break away 445 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 1: from routine, from stress, vacations are important. You gotta schedule 446 00:24:54,080 --> 00:25:00,959 Speaker 1: them like your schedule meetings right, even even your daily breaks. 447 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:03,920 Speaker 1: If the will show how many people don't even break 448 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:09,920 Speaker 1: during the day. Every year we say, well, wake up earlier, 449 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:15,639 Speaker 1: exercise more, really rest and eat healthier. It's hard for us, 450 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 1: but for dogs not so much. Don't drop at dawn, 451 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:23,880 Speaker 1: run for fun, sleep like the champs, and they love 452 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:28,360 Speaker 1: eating fresh, healthy food every single meal. Give your dog 453 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 1: another healthy habit, real fresh food from the Farmer's Dog. 454 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:35,160 Speaker 1: Get off your first box at the Farmer's Dog dot 455 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 1: com slash listen. What grows in the forest? Trees? Sure 456 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:43,680 Speaker 1: you know what else grows in the forest? Our imagination, 457 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:47,120 Speaker 1: our sense of wonder, and our family bonds grow too, 458 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 1: because when we disconnect from this and connect with this, 459 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:57,399 Speaker 1: we reconnect with each other. The forest is closer than 460 00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 1: you think. Find a forest near you and start exploring. 461 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 1: I Discover the Forest dot Org, brought to you by 462 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:08,119 Speaker 1: the United States Forest Service and the AD Council. What 463 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 1: grows in the forest trees? Sure you know what else 464 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:15,360 Speaker 1: grows in the forest. Our imagination, our sense of wonder, 465 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:18,920 Speaker 1: and our family bonds grow too, because when we disconnect 466 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:25,600 Speaker 1: from this and connect with this, We reconnect with each other. 467 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:29,200 Speaker 1: The forest is closer than you think. Find a forest 468 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 1: near you and start exploring. I discover the forest dot 469 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:35,479 Speaker 1: Org brought to you by the United States Forest Service 470 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:38,480 Speaker 1: and the AD Council. You know. That's that's why I 471 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 1: was important when I when our schedule this interview because 472 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:44,680 Speaker 1: of the fact that when you're starting a business, stress, 473 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 1: when you're starting a relationship, stress, when you're having children, stress, 474 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:53,159 Speaker 1: when you're doing a job, you know different. That's why 475 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:55,600 Speaker 1: I had to mention about especially in the Houston market. 476 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:57,119 Speaker 1: We can go to different parts of the country. You 477 00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:58,720 Speaker 1: can do the stress that came in a state of 478 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:02,480 Speaker 1: Georgia when Resident Trump and was down here saying that 479 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 1: the voting was was illegal, that they were cheating. You 480 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 1: had the Republican stress, you had a Democrats stress, and 481 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 1: then you had then you had the Black Lives Matter 482 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:16,480 Speaker 1: movement running around. They were being called thugs, being called 483 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:21,879 Speaker 1: a terrorist group. That level of stress your profession, I 484 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:26,159 Speaker 1: would have to believe it is understressed too, because so 485 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:28,680 Speaker 1: many people are coming to you for so many new answers. 486 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 1: Dr Brown, Yeah, we're in a pandemic as well. Mental 487 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 1: health is in its own pandemic. The one thing about 488 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 1: is whatever shan is that people are coming to get help, 489 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:45,400 Speaker 1: and technology has been a huge king um in creating 490 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 1: that access for many people who formally didn't have access, 491 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 1: who didn't want to come to a place to get help. 492 00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:54,359 Speaker 1: The screen these stigmas is a part of that. The 493 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 1: stigmatizing experience from people where they're in the cover of 494 00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:00,200 Speaker 1: their homes talking about something that's triggering and they're able 495 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:03,800 Speaker 1: to communicate that through a screen has been helpful. Insurance 496 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 1: companies have gotten on board to provide coverage for Telly 497 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 1: psychiatry so that people can get help. E A p 498 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:13,320 Speaker 1: S are on board to be able to allow therapy 499 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:16,320 Speaker 1: sessions for their employees who have been at home over 500 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:19,879 Speaker 1: a year and a half. So people are understanding this 501 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:23,480 Speaker 1: mental health movement now, they understand how important mental health 502 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:27,960 Speaker 1: is and it is amazing to see that. But we're 503 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 1: still in the pandemic and we're gonna be in this 504 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:35,400 Speaker 1: for quite some time. So you know, yes, everywhere it's 505 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 1: a part of our normalcy, our normal day life, but 506 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 1: we have to understand that, hey, there is help out 507 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 1: there in order for you to help manage that while 508 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:47,640 Speaker 1: you're dealing with it as well. Well. You know, the 509 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:50,240 Speaker 1: help is first of all, I have to be acknowledged 510 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:53,720 Speaker 1: by youth, you know, I know, like I said, I've 511 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:57,160 Speaker 1: acknowledged the fact that I need. I need. I need 512 00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,840 Speaker 1: to see things, movements and things like that. That relaxed 513 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 1: my triggers. And that's a popular word you're here, especially 514 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 1: when you talking about mental health. What are your triggers, 515 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 1: whether what are the bad triggers or what are the 516 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 1: good triggers. The good triggers for me is that I 517 00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:11,960 Speaker 1: gotta be, so I gotta see change all the time. 518 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 1: I gotta be. And I'm not talking about I gotta 519 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:16,240 Speaker 1: hear loud music, I gotta go to a party, I 520 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:18,440 Speaker 1: gotta drink. I gotta be the life of that. And 521 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 1: I'm stepping out of my own being to know I'm 522 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 1: talking about I go down to my little lake. I 523 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 1: sit down, and I watched the fish and it relaxes me, 524 00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:30,560 Speaker 1: and if and then and it takes me down a 525 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:32,600 Speaker 1: little bit where I can't see any streets. I can 526 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:34,920 Speaker 1: see part of my house. So I'm almost in my 527 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:37,240 Speaker 1: little world. And so and it's kind of like that 528 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:40,680 Speaker 1: been that way for me, you know, my whole life though, 529 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 1: Dr Bro, I've I've I've unconsciously figured out positive triggers 530 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 1: for me. You know, in New York, a lot of 531 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:49,960 Speaker 1: people I can't stand. There's crowds. I love the crowds, 532 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 1: but then you come to my My place is spacious, 533 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:56,240 Speaker 1: you know, and so I'm not so I don't care 534 00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 1: that crowded environment of the streets into my home environment. 535 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:05,200 Speaker 1: Hey hey, I got these walls too close. Okay, So 536 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 1: so it's really about some of the decision. But the 537 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,280 Speaker 1: bigger thing I'll take away in this conversation and why 538 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:13,040 Speaker 1: you're so important, is that there's so many people who 539 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 1: have not found the positive triggers, and that's why you 540 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:18,720 Speaker 1: are so important to talk to us about that. Hey man, 541 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 1: Hey man, I have an a d h D mind. 542 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 1: I mean I have a d h D and the 543 00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:24,200 Speaker 1: n B with a d h D if you will, 544 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 1: And so, like you, I love the noise, the action, 545 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:33,239 Speaker 1: the stimuli because it allows me to be moving with it. Right, 546 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:37,120 Speaker 1: I'm motivated by it. I'm driven unproductive. But then there 547 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:39,160 Speaker 1: are times when it's just too much for me and 548 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:42,800 Speaker 1: it's overstimulating. So I have to travel. So my positive 549 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 1: triggers international travel and The reason I say international because 550 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 1: it gets me out of my comfort zone. I go alone. 551 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 1: I want to learn about different cultures that I don't 552 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:55,840 Speaker 1: know anything about, meeting new people, so it's a lot 553 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 1: of newness that allows me to be in a very calm, 554 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:03,840 Speaker 1: me right type of mood and zone. Positive triggers are 555 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,040 Speaker 1: so important. I'm glad you brought that up because oftentimes 556 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:09,960 Speaker 1: when we talk about triggers, the automatic thought process about 557 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:13,240 Speaker 1: that is it's negative. But no are positive triggers, and 558 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 1: we need positive triggers to balance out um our ability, 559 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:21,080 Speaker 1: to manage stress. We need positive triggers to understand when 560 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 1: it need to know when it's time to take that break, 561 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:26,600 Speaker 1: when it's time take that vacation, right when it's time 562 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:28,240 Speaker 1: to go to bed at night. It's not you know, 563 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:30,280 Speaker 1: being up at two o'clock in the morning because you 564 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:33,240 Speaker 1: always gonna have work to do. I want to take something. 565 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 1: I want to say something, you dr Brown, because I'm 566 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:37,280 Speaker 1: kind of a not a know that you but a 567 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:40,000 Speaker 1: know it in this system. You know, like because you 568 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 1: know May is you know mental health Awareness month. Okay, 569 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:48,880 Speaker 1: it's not just one month, everybody, okay, And and and 570 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:53,480 Speaker 1: that gives you a false sense that we're gonna recognize 571 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,840 Speaker 1: this month and the problem goes away. It's every day, 572 00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:00,720 Speaker 1: every hour, how you deal with it, how you relate 573 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:03,400 Speaker 1: to it. And I brought Dr Brown on this show, 574 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:06,440 Speaker 1: you know, to let you know that she's here for you. 575 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:10,800 Speaker 1: She's here to to give you a sense of awareness, 576 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:16,080 Speaker 1: a sense of hope. Uh ear and when when, when 577 00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:18,840 Speaker 1: that ear is listening to you, she's gonna give you answers. 578 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:21,239 Speaker 1: And if you if you don't have the answers, then 579 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:23,520 Speaker 1: she's willing to walk you through the steps to get 580 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:25,760 Speaker 1: to that answer. You come and when you come to 581 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 1: a person like Dr Brown, her centers and and what 582 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:30,320 Speaker 1: she's trying to do is she's trying to let you 583 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:35,120 Speaker 1: know that it's time to acknowledge there is something wrong. 584 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:39,440 Speaker 1: She that's the key, right, Dr Brown, that's the key. 585 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 1: And you know, mental health doesn't necessarily just mean, Um, 586 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:47,440 Speaker 1: I'm having some little thoughts, I'm hearing voices or you know, 587 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:50,560 Speaker 1: these these the kind of the extreme of it. It 588 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:53,520 Speaker 1: could be that I'm fatigue, I'm tired, I'm using my 589 00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:57,160 Speaker 1: ear right, nothing is you know, I'm having thoughts that 590 00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:01,240 Speaker 1: I'm not necessarily worthy. Like the health shows up for 591 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:05,280 Speaker 1: different people at different levels of severity. And I love 592 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:08,040 Speaker 1: people just you know, just like they get physical evaluations 593 00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:11,040 Speaker 1: and physical checks up, checkouts, people check ups. I would 594 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:13,760 Speaker 1: love it people can go to a mentalth professional and 595 00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:16,880 Speaker 1: get an annual mental health check up. Wow, how better 596 00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:20,040 Speaker 1: they would be? How better this world would be? Um, 597 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:23,200 Speaker 1: it just will will normalize. We gotta normalize mental health 598 00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:26,720 Speaker 1: because it's important. We all experienced ment health. Like just 599 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:28,560 Speaker 1: like you said at the beginning of our conversation, we 600 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:32,920 Speaker 1: all have mental health issues and wellnesses, and so it's 601 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,520 Speaker 1: important for us to take care of it. We got 602 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:37,920 Speaker 1: what level it is? The thing about it when you 603 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:41,520 Speaker 1: talk about fatigue. I remember one day my wife, I 604 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:43,320 Speaker 1: get up and I'll just drive myself to the airport. 605 00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:45,480 Speaker 1: And one day she's, I drive you, you know, I 606 00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:48,120 Speaker 1: gotta get up earlier. And we were we were driving, 607 00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:49,760 Speaker 1: and she was driving and she was looking at me 608 00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:54,880 Speaker 1: in the passage. She says, she said, Wow, when are 609 00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:58,280 Speaker 1: you tired? When do you When are you tired? I said, 610 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:02,320 Speaker 1: I'm tired right now. I said, But what I've learned 611 00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:07,240 Speaker 1: and I've created triggers to to be able to mask that, Okay, 612 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:09,480 Speaker 1: And I say, that's not a good thing too, to 613 00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:13,960 Speaker 1: mask fatigue. And so when you when you're doing things. 614 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:18,600 Speaker 1: Mask is a dangerous term in the mental and physical 615 00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:22,719 Speaker 1: awareness because you can mask fatigue and it can lead 616 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:25,800 Speaker 1: to other issues. That's why you have to know your body. 617 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:28,920 Speaker 1: In this case, you have to know your mind. And 618 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:31,600 Speaker 1: and I'm not saying I'm a specialist. I'm just bringing 619 00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:33,880 Speaker 1: you on the show. You are especially and believe me, 620 00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:35,960 Speaker 1: you got to come back on my show. I could 621 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:38,320 Speaker 1: be talking to you for another hour because you and 622 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:40,960 Speaker 1: I we first of all, we're connecting. But I think 623 00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:44,000 Speaker 1: you understand how I think. And I have a lot 624 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:48,040 Speaker 1: of natural awareness, and but you have the technical awareness. 625 00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:51,640 Speaker 1: Because I can't teach anybody what I know. It's it's 626 00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:54,920 Speaker 1: just something I've designed for myself. But you can't teach 627 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:59,920 Speaker 1: individuals and get them to walk the path of lightening, 628 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,280 Speaker 1: you know, come out of the light. 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