WEBVTT - Hour 3 – Kurt Warner, Daniel Jeremiah 0:00:00.720 --> 0:00:03.560 You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 0:00:03.560 --> 0:00:05.160 Sports Radio. 0:00:07.320 --> 0:00:12.200 What an audience. I think they're better than yesterday. Wow, Yeah, 0:00:12.320 --> 0:00:15.080 I think so. And that's saying a lot, but packed 0:00:15.120 --> 0:00:17.439 house once again here at the bar. We'll be back 0:00:17.480 --> 0:00:21.120 here tomorrow morning as well. And people say what time 0:00:21.239 --> 0:00:23.960 should we show up? I would say a couple hours 0:00:24.000 --> 0:00:27.680 before we get started. Some people shown up at three 0:00:27.720 --> 0:00:29.600 point thirty four in the morning to get in here. 0:00:29.640 --> 0:00:32.839 But thank you for taking time off to join us 0:00:32.840 --> 0:00:36.560 here in our mobile man Cave of sorts eight seven 0:00:36.640 --> 0:00:39.920 seven three DP show email address DP at Danpatrick dot com, 0:00:39.920 --> 0:00:42.720 Twitter handle a DP show. We'll talk to Kurt Warner. 0:00:42.760 --> 0:00:46.519 He'll stop by Daniel Jeremiah, NFL Network analyst. He'll be 0:00:46.560 --> 0:00:50.600 working the draft tonight with NFL Network with Rich Eisen 0:00:50.680 --> 0:00:52.919 and company. And he's the one who came out with 0:00:53.040 --> 0:00:55.600 the comment and I want to ask him about this 0:00:55.640 --> 0:00:59.320 where he said that Cleveland Browns are taking Travis Hunter, 0:01:00.000 --> 0:01:03.880 but he would major in offense minor in defense, which 0:01:03.960 --> 0:01:07.680 is opposite or counter to what I think we've been told. 0:01:08.080 --> 0:01:10.399 All Right, poll question for the final hour of the program, 0:01:10.520 --> 0:01:14.160 we do have our NFL hot takes at These are 0:01:14.200 --> 0:01:18.320 the bold proclamations. Matt Miller was just here, the ESPN 0:01:18.400 --> 0:01:21.200 Draft analyst. He said, his hot take is Shadoor Sanders 0:01:21.240 --> 0:01:23.280 not taken in the first round, So we'll have that 0:01:23.360 --> 0:01:24.520 so poll question here. 0:01:24.600 --> 0:01:26.720 See, it's crazy to me that shadur Can is either 0:01:26.760 --> 0:01:30.360 going like second or second rounds O real consensus. 0:01:30.440 --> 0:01:32.120 Yeah, we have up there right now. 0:01:32.200 --> 0:01:37.039 Better NFL Draft day trade Jerry Rice or Patrick Mahomes dot. 0:01:37.400 --> 0:01:40.520 I don't think people remember that Jerry Rice was traded 0:01:40.560 --> 0:01:44.679 for by the Niners, but everybody remembers with Patrick Mahomes. 0:01:45.319 --> 0:01:47.840 Right now, the results of that are fifty three forty seven. 0:01:47.920 --> 0:01:51.920 I want to guess I'm going to say, because Rice 0:01:52.000 --> 0:01:54.280 is the greatest receiver of all time, they would say. 0:01:54.400 --> 0:01:59.800 He would have forty seven. Yeah, yeah, Patrick Mahomes. Right now, 0:01:59.840 --> 0:02:02.240 it's been going a little closer to fifty to fifty, 0:02:02.240 --> 0:02:04.720 but right now he's ticking up at fifty three percent. 0:02:04.760 --> 0:02:07.640 All right, yeah, good morning. If you're watching on Peacock, 0:02:07.640 --> 0:02:11.079 our streaming partner and our radio affiliates around the country, Marvin, 0:02:11.120 --> 0:02:14.280 I'll start with you. The scalding hot take for the 0:02:14.360 --> 0:02:16.359 draft is going to be what. 0:02:18.040 --> 0:02:20.760 Tyler Warren will be drafted by the New England Patriots 0:02:20.800 --> 0:02:21.440 at number four. 0:02:22.720 --> 0:02:27.960 Wownd State tight end. Okay, correct, all right. 0:02:28.880 --> 0:02:31.200 Jackson Dart will go in the first round of the 0:02:31.240 --> 0:02:32.600 draft tonight. 0:02:33.440 --> 0:02:43.200 Okay to the La Rams Okay, okay, interesting, all right, Todd. 0:02:43.800 --> 0:02:46.320 The Broncos, who unbeknownst to me have a first round. 0:02:49.120 --> 0:02:52.639 Hot take you're the hot take is that the Broncos 0:02:52.680 --> 0:02:54.560 have a first john draft pick and you didn't know it. 0:02:54.639 --> 0:02:56.280 They will move up from the twenty spot tonight to 0:02:56.280 --> 0:02:58.799 select Ashton genty, so a Boise State Bronco becomes a 0:02:58.840 --> 0:02:59.520 Denver Bronco. 0:02:59.800 --> 0:03:01.480 The Cowboys move up from twelve to. 0:03:01.480 --> 0:03:03.680 Grant Penn State tight and Tyler Warren, hoping for the 0:03:03.680 --> 0:03:06.120 next Jason Witten or j Novachek. 0:03:05.600 --> 0:03:08.680 Okay, joined down name drop it uh seatan, how about you? 0:03:09.440 --> 0:03:11.480 Let's see to a tongue of Ilo will be traded 0:03:11.520 --> 0:03:14.600 tonight to either the Saints, Giants forty nine ers or Steelers. 0:03:15.800 --> 0:03:16.240 Wow. 0:03:16.919 --> 0:03:21.520 And NFL sac lader Trey Hendrickson will be traded tonight, 0:03:21.680 --> 0:03:24.520 okay to either the Packers, Lions, or Commanders. 0:03:26.160 --> 0:03:29.840 Let's go Packers, Yeah, go, pack go, They'll pack go 0:03:30.560 --> 0:03:31.520 all right, PAULI. 0:03:31.600 --> 0:03:34.399 I think Seaton's got this those are pretty pretty scalding. 0:03:34.960 --> 0:03:35.480 I'm gonna go. 0:03:35.600 --> 0:03:38.560 The Patriots trade the fourth pick. They trade out at 0:03:38.560 --> 0:03:40.560 the fourth pick with the Bears. The Bears have ten. 0:03:40.800 --> 0:03:42.960 The Bears will trade up the four to get Abdua Carter, 0:03:42.960 --> 0:03:46.520 who slips to the fourth pick, My second one, less 0:03:46.520 --> 0:03:49.560 warm Jackson Dart will go ninth to the Saints. 0:03:51.040 --> 0:03:54.960 Day Marvin's are pretty good. I mean, Seaton's throwing in 0:03:55.040 --> 0:03:57.440 the too a tongue of ioloa. I mean, that's scalding. 0:03:57.720 --> 0:04:00.640 And then Trey Hendrickson of the Bengals gets trade as well. 0:04:01.760 --> 0:04:04.840 There's two big trades right there. Yeah they are. Yeah, Yeah, Tonight, 0:04:06.640 --> 0:04:08.720 why don't we bring in an expert here, Kurt Warner 0:04:08.800 --> 0:04:12.040 joining us the Hall of Famer. NFL Networks coverage first 0:04:12.120 --> 0:04:14.360 round of the draft coming up tonight at eight eastern. 0:04:14.400 --> 0:04:18.240 As we make way for Kurt Warner, Homo Programs going. 0:04:18.080 --> 0:04:22.680 On, Let's go home my money. 0:04:26.440 --> 0:04:29.760 You weren't drafted, but I'm wondering if you would have 0:04:30.040 --> 0:04:33.040 had been the last pick, if you had been mister irrelevant, 0:04:33.800 --> 0:04:36.520 would that have worked against you more than just being 0:04:36.520 --> 0:04:39.040 a free agent where you would had that label that 0:04:39.120 --> 0:04:41.839 you would be mister irrelevant the rest of your career. 0:04:42.560 --> 0:04:46.520 That's a great question. I think the difference always becomes 0:04:46.760 --> 0:04:49.839 when you're picked that late you have to go to 0:04:50.520 --> 0:04:53.600 the particular team that drafted you, where if you become 0:04:53.600 --> 0:04:56.479 a free agent, there's usually four or five different teams 0:04:56.520 --> 0:05:00.080 where you get the opportunity to, at least in your mind, think, oh, well, 0:05:00.520 --> 0:05:03.960 I can pick and choose what the best situation is 0:05:04.080 --> 0:05:07.920 for me. But I think as a player, you always think, well, 0:05:07.960 --> 0:05:10.320 if I'm drafted, that gives me a better chance to 0:05:10.480 --> 0:05:13.080 make the team because they invested a pick in me. 0:05:14.200 --> 0:05:14.680 But I don't know. 0:05:14.720 --> 0:05:16.560 It didn't work out for me the way that it 0:05:17.080 --> 0:05:19.040 you know, as a free agent, so I'm not sure 0:05:19.360 --> 0:05:21.520 it would have been much better either way. 0:05:21.640 --> 0:05:24.000 Okay, but how do you pick your team that you 0:05:24.040 --> 0:05:25.920 want to actually try to make well? 0:05:25.960 --> 0:05:28.120 I mean, for instance, I picked the Packers. 0:05:28.560 --> 0:05:31.000 I picked the Green Bay team, and the reason that 0:05:31.080 --> 0:05:34.279 I picked them was because they only had. 0:05:34.120 --> 0:05:35.640 Three quarterbacks on the roster. 0:05:35.760 --> 0:05:38.400 Now, they were good quarterbacks and far of Brunel and 0:05:38.640 --> 0:05:42.440 Dat Murra Heisman Trophy winner, but my mindset was, if 0:05:42.440 --> 0:05:45.680 they're only going to invite four guys to camp, I 0:05:45.720 --> 0:05:47.560 only have to beat out one of them, or if 0:05:47.600 --> 0:05:49.680 something happens or if one of these guys is traded, 0:05:50.279 --> 0:05:52.480 there's a better chance for me to make the team 0:05:52.520 --> 0:05:54.680 there then to go to a team. I think San 0:05:54.720 --> 0:05:57.960 Diego at the time had six guys coming to camp, 0:05:58.320 --> 0:06:00.919 and you know, being a free agent, I like, Okay, 0:06:00.960 --> 0:06:02.520 how many reps am I going to get? What kind 0:06:02.560 --> 0:06:04.760 of chance am I going to get to make the team. 0:06:04.839 --> 0:06:07.320 So that was my mindset at the time, even though 0:06:07.320 --> 0:06:10.080 they were good players. Hey, I feel like I have 0:06:10.120 --> 0:06:12.920 a better chance to get some reps and maybe showcase 0:06:12.960 --> 0:06:14.719 what I can do if I went to the Packers. 0:06:15.000 --> 0:06:17.159 How would you compare yourself when you got to the 0:06:17.200 --> 0:06:20.000 Packers with what Brett Favre was doing at the time. 0:06:21.640 --> 0:06:24.719 Well, I will say this is that lining up next 0:06:24.760 --> 0:06:28.440 to Brett and Mark and Tie every day in training 0:06:28.480 --> 0:06:31.240 camp or you know, during that period, I was more 0:06:31.320 --> 0:06:33.719 confident when I left that I could play in the 0:06:33.839 --> 0:06:37.599 NFL because I felt my physical skills matched up to 0:06:38.240 --> 0:06:42.640 those guys that I knew were NFL players. But Brett was, 0:06:43.080 --> 0:06:45.640 you know, it was early in his stage, you know, 0:06:45.680 --> 0:06:48.520 of being a starter and becoming that guy in the NFL. 0:06:48.800 --> 0:06:51.480 But I remember calling my family after seeing him for 0:06:51.520 --> 0:06:54.240 about two days, and I'm like, this dude's different, Like 0:06:54.320 --> 0:06:57.320 this dude is special, even though I don't think everybody 0:06:57.400 --> 0:06:58.800 knew it at the time, because it was kind of 0:06:58.839 --> 0:07:01.359 the Brett far you know, spin around, throw it up 0:07:01.360 --> 0:07:03.360 in the air, you have these interceptions, kind of these 0:07:03.560 --> 0:07:06.599 crazy plays. When you saw him get between the lines 0:07:06.640 --> 0:07:10.640 and play football, he was he was different at that time. 0:07:11.240 --> 0:07:12.640 What was he like in practice? 0:07:14.640 --> 0:07:16.960 Well, I could take you into the meeting rooms and 0:07:17.080 --> 0:07:19.800 so you know Steve mary Ucci, who I work with now, 0:07:19.880 --> 0:07:22.320 was our quarterback coach. Uh, you know, those three guys 0:07:22.400 --> 0:07:24.440 are in the room, and you know, oftentimes he would 0:07:24.480 --> 0:07:26.800 pull up tape and he's like, okay, Brett, tell me 0:07:26.960 --> 0:07:29.800 what the play is. And you know, formation motion called 0:07:29.840 --> 0:07:32.560 his play for me, and Brett's like throwing around all 0:07:32.760 --> 0:07:35.040 He's like, I don't I don't know, mooch, you know, 0:07:35.080 --> 0:07:37.720 and then and then ties there and Tie just cleans. 0:07:37.440 --> 0:07:39.160 It all up and he knows it all. He's just 0:07:39.160 --> 0:07:39.679 like a coach. 0:07:40.800 --> 0:07:44.960 But when you put Brett between the lines, everything seemed 0:07:44.960 --> 0:07:47.120 to just click. Like, you know, I listened to him 0:07:47.240 --> 0:07:49.000 in the meeting room and I'm like, oh my gosh, 0:07:49.080 --> 0:07:50.840 what are we gonna get on the practice field, and 0:07:50.880 --> 0:07:53.000 then he goes on the practice field and it was 0:07:53.080 --> 0:07:55.400 just bang bang back, like everything just seemed to make 0:07:55.480 --> 0:07:56.480 sense to him. 0:07:56.600 --> 0:07:57.440 Between the lines. 0:07:57.480 --> 0:07:59.360 But you know, he couldn't look at it, you know, 0:07:59.440 --> 0:08:02.480 the tape and and recall everything there. But you give 0:08:02.520 --> 0:08:04.400 him a play call and let him go play football, 0:08:04.880 --> 0:08:06.800 and he was just it was just really really good. 0:08:07.160 --> 0:08:10.200 When did you know you had arrived, like you you 0:08:10.240 --> 0:08:11.840 could be a great player. 0:08:13.280 --> 0:08:14.280 A great player. 0:08:15.960 --> 0:08:19.240 Yeah, when I say arrived for me, it was different 0:08:19.240 --> 0:08:22.360 with my journey. So in ninety nine, when I became 0:08:22.360 --> 0:08:25.239 the starter, we actually had to buy the second week 0:08:25.640 --> 0:08:27.440 of the season, which they don't do anymore, but we 0:08:27.480 --> 0:08:29.680 had to buy the second week, so played the first 0:08:29.680 --> 0:08:32.439 week against the Ravens. Me and my wife actually went 0:08:32.480 --> 0:08:35.960 back to her hometown to see her family, and I 0:08:36.000 --> 0:08:37.760 got a call when we were driving down the street 0:08:37.760 --> 0:08:40.440 that I was the player of the week in the 0:08:40.559 --> 0:08:44.840 NFL after Week one, And that was my moment where like, Okay, 0:08:45.040 --> 0:08:46.760 I don't know if I'm ever going to play another game. 0:08:47.120 --> 0:08:48.720 I don't know where it goes from here. 0:08:48.559 --> 0:08:51.360 But for one week, I was the best player in 0:08:51.360 --> 0:08:53.160 the National Football and that was kind of like my 0:08:53.280 --> 0:08:56.360 moment of after the entire journey, like all the things 0:08:56.360 --> 0:08:58.440 that I believed. See, I told you, I told you 0:08:58.679 --> 0:09:01.360 at least for one week, I could be that guy. 0:09:01.400 --> 0:09:03.439 So that was kind of do you get any moments? 0:09:03.480 --> 0:09:04.600 Did you get a certificate? 0:09:04.800 --> 0:09:05.000 Yeah? 0:09:05.000 --> 0:09:07.200 I mean I heard. I think maybe they gave you 0:09:07.200 --> 0:09:09.079 a papers at every I don't. I don't have any idea. 0:09:09.520 --> 0:09:11.440 The phone call was enough for me to just kind 0:09:11.480 --> 0:09:13.559 of okay, all right, we made it. 0:09:14.360 --> 0:09:16.600 We're talking to Kurt Warner. He'll be on the draft 0:09:16.640 --> 0:09:20.520 coming up tonight at eight eastern on NFL Network. We 0:09:20.559 --> 0:09:24.440 spend so much time talking about quarterbacks, and I was 0:09:24.480 --> 0:09:27.120 just talking to Matt Miller, who's draft analyst for ESPN. 0:09:27.600 --> 0:09:30.880 If I'm Tennessee, why am I trying to get a 0:09:30.920 --> 0:09:34.760 quarterback when I can get the a guy who is 0:09:34.880 --> 0:09:37.760 the Otani of the NFL and Travis Hunter. So now 0:09:37.800 --> 0:09:40.079 I like the sure thing is right there? Correct? 0:09:40.320 --> 0:09:42.120 Right, Okay, I'm going to take a. 0:09:42.120 --> 0:09:44.680 Chance on cam Ward, who at best would have been 0:09:44.720 --> 0:09:48.960 the fifth quarterback drafted last year. Yeah, So why am 0:09:49.000 --> 0:09:52.160 I doing that? Why why am I not patient to go? 0:09:52.720 --> 0:09:55.040 We can We'll find our quarterback. 0:09:55.440 --> 0:09:58.640 Cause it's as simple as if you don't have one, 0:09:59.160 --> 0:09:59.959 you don't have a chain. 0:10:00.240 --> 0:10:02.760 I mean, that's the way it is in the NFL. 0:10:02.800 --> 0:10:06.000 Outside of, you know, barring one of those unique situations 0:10:06.000 --> 0:10:09.040 where you have an incredible defense and an unbelievable run 0:10:09.080 --> 0:10:12.360 game and your quarterback can be a complementary piece. 0:10:13.920 --> 0:10:15.319 It just doesn't happen very often. 0:10:15.440 --> 0:10:17.719 And so it's why we reach It's why we talk 0:10:17.760 --> 0:10:20.280 about quarterbacks because if you don't have one, you don't 0:10:20.320 --> 0:10:21.840 have a chance. And especially if you look in the 0:10:21.840 --> 0:10:25.000 AFC right now with way you know the way that's 0:10:25.040 --> 0:10:27.040 going and all the players that you have there, and 0:10:27.080 --> 0:10:30.240 so that's why you know, at this pick, I agree 0:10:30.280 --> 0:10:32.120 with you, like, Okay, we've got guys that we know 0:10:32.240 --> 0:10:36.120 are going to be good NFL players, Cam Mood really 0:10:36.160 --> 0:10:37.000 good college player. 0:10:37.040 --> 0:10:37.440 We don't know. 0:10:37.800 --> 0:10:40.720 But that's exactly why you have to take the chance, 0:10:40.800 --> 0:10:44.719 is because you just know you don't have an opportunity 0:10:44.720 --> 0:10:45.600 to win without it. 0:10:45.880 --> 0:10:46.560 And then I think that. 0:10:46.640 --> 0:10:49.600 The second factor is we have no patience anymore. We 0:10:49.640 --> 0:10:51.480 have no patients, not just for quarterback, we have no 0:10:51.520 --> 0:10:54.960 patients for coaches. And so these coaches know, Okay, I 0:10:54.960 --> 0:10:57.720 can go build a roster for somebody else, because if 0:10:57.760 --> 0:10:59.560 I don't have a quarterback for three or four years. 0:11:00.080 --> 0:11:01.760 I'm gone, and somebody else is going to come in 0:11:01.800 --> 0:11:03.600 and be able to use all these pieces I have. 0:11:04.120 --> 0:11:06.400 So you go and you try to get that guy 0:11:06.440 --> 0:11:09.280 that you think has a chance to be a special 0:11:09.320 --> 0:11:12.880 player for you, knowing if I find that guy, he 0:11:12.920 --> 0:11:15.480 gives us a chance every time we play, and then 0:11:15.520 --> 0:11:16.680 we go and build around him. 0:11:17.160 --> 0:11:20.040 I had one of my greatest moments in my career, 0:11:20.360 --> 0:11:24.319 and it happened during your Super Bowl with Pittsburgh. Because 0:11:24.440 --> 0:11:26.760 I'm going to hand out the trophy. I'm on the 0:11:26.800 --> 0:11:31.439 sidelines and I'm with Steve Young. So Steve Young is 0:11:31.520 --> 0:11:36.120 with me as Ben comes onto the field, and Steve 0:11:36.160 --> 0:11:40.000 Young is doing play by play and color like. So 0:11:40.080 --> 0:11:43.000 he's telling me from a Hall of Fame perspective what 0:11:43.040 --> 0:11:45.720 Ben is doing, what they should do. So he's doing 0:11:45.760 --> 0:11:48.400 this all the way down the sidelines. Now I'm still thinking, 0:11:48.440 --> 0:11:51.800 I'm handing out the trophy to you guys, and then 0:11:51.840 --> 0:11:54.040 all of a sudden, you know, so Steve is going, 0:11:54.480 --> 0:11:57.000 this is this is crazy, I mean, Ben is this 0:11:57.120 --> 0:12:02.400 is unbelievable. And then he throws the touchdown and he said, 0:12:02.600 --> 0:12:05.200 you you can't, I mean, we don't make those throw. 0:12:05.240 --> 0:12:08.080 I mean, that's not normal to make that throw. So 0:12:08.200 --> 0:12:11.920 when you're watching all of this as a quarterback, you're 0:12:11.960 --> 0:12:14.240 probably saying, well, what would I do or you know, 0:12:14.679 --> 0:12:17.480 put yourself in that position. I'm guessing, at what point 0:12:17.480 --> 0:12:19.840 did you realize you were in trouble? 0:12:20.640 --> 0:12:22.520 I mean I realized I was in trouble when he 0:12:22.600 --> 0:12:25.640 threw the curl route to the right hand side and 0:12:25.800 --> 0:12:28.360 Antonio took it for about seventy you know, like because 0:12:28.559 --> 0:12:30.920 all we're thinking on you know, on our sideline is 0:12:30.920 --> 0:12:33.359 you know, we've got the lead at that point. 0:12:33.240 --> 0:12:35.600 Hold them to a field goal at worst. 0:12:35.960 --> 0:12:38.200 So we're going into overtime because we had kind of 0:12:38.200 --> 0:12:42.000 taken the momentum at that point, and so our whole 0:12:42.000 --> 0:12:44.760 mindset is just you don't give up the big play, 0:12:44.840 --> 0:12:46.760 like keep everything in front of you. 0:12:47.040 --> 0:12:48.480 And then it was right off the bat when you 0:12:48.480 --> 0:12:49.280 throw a curl. 0:12:49.080 --> 0:12:51.120 And he spins and and you know, sets them up 0:12:51.120 --> 0:12:53.920 inside the red zone. And that's when I thought too 0:12:53.920 --> 0:12:56.720 many opportunities, Like we're giving them too many chances, Like 0:12:56.720 --> 0:12:59.200 if we gave him one shot in the red zone 0:12:59.200 --> 0:13:03.040 to go for the touchdown, I feel confident you get 0:13:03.040 --> 0:13:04.439 down there and we give them first and goal and 0:13:04.480 --> 0:13:07.120 they've got a chance for at least four plays down there. 0:13:07.679 --> 0:13:10.120 That's when I was worried. And you know, he had 0:13:10.160 --> 0:13:12.680 thrown a pass, a better I wouldn't say a better pass, 0:13:12.720 --> 0:13:16.040 but they had an opportunity to score a touchdown, you know, 0:13:16.080 --> 0:13:19.000 the play before, and they missed that play. And so 0:13:19.360 --> 0:13:21.920 after that happens, You're like, Okay, they missed one. 0:13:22.080 --> 0:13:23.360 Maybe we got a shot here. 0:13:23.640 --> 0:13:26.520 And then when he went and threw the past to Santonio, 0:13:26.920 --> 0:13:29.920 from my vantage point, I'm like, what's he doing? Like, 0:13:29.960 --> 0:13:33.160 there's three guys there, there's no chance, Like I'm feeling pretty. 0:13:32.880 --> 0:13:34.200 Good that we're gonna knock this down. 0:13:34.320 --> 0:13:38.800 And of course, perfect pass, unbelievable catch in between three guys. 0:13:39.320 --> 0:13:41.160 But that's what you know, you know, that's what Super 0:13:41.160 --> 0:13:43.959 Bowls are all about. It's great players making great plays. 0:13:43.960 --> 0:13:47.520 But it was after that first quick curl route that 0:13:47.720 --> 0:13:51.240 spun out and turned into you know, first down into the. 0:13:51.160 --> 0:13:54.240 Red zone where I knew like we were in trouble here. 0:13:54.400 --> 0:13:57.800 What still keeps you up at night football wise? 0:14:00.000 --> 0:14:03.400 Football wise, it would be the Patriots Super Bowl in 0:14:03.520 --> 0:14:08.360 O one, Just that we didn't play our best game, 0:14:08.440 --> 0:14:10.160 like you want to go to the Super Bowl and 0:14:10.160 --> 0:14:13.280 you want to play your best game. You want to say, hey, 0:14:13.360 --> 0:14:16.480 you leave it like that game against the Steelers. Nobody 0:14:16.480 --> 0:14:18.439 expected us to be there with two and a half 0:14:18.480 --> 0:14:21.440 minutes to go, We're leading in that game. We played 0:14:21.440 --> 0:14:24.280 a good football game and very easily could have been 0:14:24.400 --> 0:14:26.880 champs in that game. So I can live with that one, 0:14:26.920 --> 0:14:30.200 even with the long interception and all the stuff that happened. 0:14:30.200 --> 0:14:32.080 I could live with that one. It was two thousand 0:14:32.080 --> 0:14:32.600 and one. 0:14:32.520 --> 0:14:35.920 Where we were a better team than we played on 0:14:36.080 --> 0:14:39.200 that day, and when you get to those moments and 0:14:39.720 --> 0:14:41.520 you know what that could have meant for a lot 0:14:41.520 --> 0:14:43.800 of different things, to have two super Bowl championships in 0:14:43.840 --> 0:14:46.560 three years, all of that stuff. That's the game to 0:14:46.680 --> 0:14:49.520 me that I wish we could have back and we 0:14:49.800 --> 0:14:52.560 could play that over again, because I really believe, you know, 0:14:52.600 --> 0:14:53.880 and nothing against the Patriots. 0:14:54.360 --> 0:14:56.080 We were the better football team. 0:14:56.920 --> 0:14:59.240 You know, we didn't play better in in those three hours, 0:14:59.240 --> 0:15:01.280 but we were the better foot We played ten times, 0:15:01.840 --> 0:15:04.680 we win I think at least eight of those, but 0:15:04.840 --> 0:15:06.840 that day they outplayed us. 0:15:07.000 --> 0:15:08.560 We didn't put our best foot forward. 0:15:08.600 --> 0:15:12.120 And that's the game that just continually comes back through 0:15:12.120 --> 0:15:13.640 my mind more than more than all the others. 0:15:13.720 --> 0:15:17.280 But what was the chatter beforehand? You're facing Brady and 0:15:17.280 --> 0:15:21.160 he didn't have much experience. Yeah, and what was the 0:15:21.200 --> 0:15:22.720 defensive philosophy there? 0:15:22.800 --> 0:15:25.960 Well, I mean, I think our defensi velosophy was basically 0:15:26.000 --> 0:15:28.120 what happened. I mean, Tom Brady threw for like one 0:15:28.200 --> 0:15:30.880 hundred and fifty yards in the game, and they had 0:15:30.960 --> 0:15:33.280 you know, I threw a pick six. They had one 0:15:33.320 --> 0:15:36.560 touchdown pass, there was another one where Tory kind of 0:15:36.600 --> 0:15:40.280 tripped led to another, you know, interception that was points 0:15:40.280 --> 0:15:43.200 for them. And so I think the game plan was 0:15:43.240 --> 0:15:46.320 what we wanted it to be. And it's like their 0:15:46.360 --> 0:15:49.080 offense isn't going to beat us. We've just got to 0:15:49.400 --> 0:15:53.120 play better than their defense, which obviously we had great 0:15:53.160 --> 0:15:55.240 confidence that we could do that with the team that we. 0:15:55.160 --> 0:15:57.720 Had, But that was more of the mindset going in. 0:15:57.800 --> 0:16:01.360 Tom Brady wasn't Tom Brady yet at that point, So 0:16:01.440 --> 0:16:04.120 it wasn't like a fear like, oh gosh, we got 0:16:04.120 --> 0:16:06.880 to worry about twelve at this time. It was more 0:16:06.960 --> 0:16:09.600 worried about their defense. Bill Belichick, we played him earlier 0:16:09.600 --> 0:16:11.400 in the year, going in, Okay, what. 0:16:11.360 --> 0:16:11.920 Are they going to do? 0:16:11.960 --> 0:16:13.280 We know they're not going to do the same thing 0:16:13.320 --> 0:16:15.520 they did last time. What do we have to prepare 0:16:15.520 --> 0:16:17.880 for it? So that was more of the matchup that 0:16:17.960 --> 0:16:19.840 I think we were thinking about going in. 0:16:21.040 --> 0:16:23.120 I have a football here, and you know, we get 0:16:23.120 --> 0:16:26.040 caught up in if you'll hold that and show us 0:16:26.080 --> 0:16:29.000 the proper way to throw a football. 0:16:28.920 --> 0:16:30.360 Proper way to throw a football? 0:16:30.480 --> 0:16:33.800 Yeah, because I mean like some like my grip, yeah, yeah, 0:16:33.800 --> 0:16:35.880 so my grip is one I don't know where the 0:16:35.920 --> 0:16:39.120 camera is, but they'll find where I'm almost on the 0:16:39.160 --> 0:16:43.640 point of the football. And and for me, I actually 0:16:43.920 --> 0:16:46.080 changed to that grip when I was in high school. 0:16:46.080 --> 0:16:48.120 When I watched the guy that was older than me 0:16:48.600 --> 0:16:50.240 threw it. He threw a really good ball, and so 0:16:50.320 --> 0:16:52.360 I'm like, Okay, how's he hold the football? And he 0:16:52.400 --> 0:16:54.880 had his finger more towards the point. And when I 0:16:54.920 --> 0:16:57.880 first started doing that, I threw a lot of ducks anyways, 0:16:57.880 --> 0:16:59.720 But when I first started doing that, the ball never 0:16:59.800 --> 0:17:03.120 came off clean. But I always felt like I had 0:17:03.160 --> 0:17:06.639 more control with that point. You know, that finger on 0:17:06.920 --> 0:17:08.560 the point of the ball, because it's kind of the 0:17:08.680 --> 0:17:11.560 last thing that you release as you're throwing the football. 0:17:11.600 --> 0:17:14.160 So I felt like it gave me more accuracy when 0:17:14.200 --> 0:17:14.840 I was doing that. 0:17:16.040 --> 0:17:16.919 But I mean, I don't know. 0:17:16.920 --> 0:17:19.000 If there's a there's a perfect way to do it. 0:17:19.200 --> 0:17:21.760 I think to me, it's like grab it. What feels 0:17:21.760 --> 0:17:24.160 comfortable to you do it. But that was the thing 0:17:24.160 --> 0:17:25.919 for me, is I wanted to have as why a 0:17:25.960 --> 0:17:28.080 grip as possible on the ball, and I wanted to 0:17:28.119 --> 0:17:29.680 have my finger close to the point. 0:17:30.440 --> 0:17:32.359 So I just felt like it may be more accurate. 0:17:32.840 --> 0:17:35.359 Do you care how it inflated it is? 0:17:38.480 --> 0:17:41.800 I mean I would like it legally inflated, like, I 0:17:41.800 --> 0:17:44.399 mean whatever the standard is is is what? 0:17:44.440 --> 0:17:44.800 I wait? 0:17:44.880 --> 0:17:47.320 But why can't you have a football that you want 0:17:47.359 --> 0:17:49.480 and I have a football that I want? 0:17:49.760 --> 0:17:52.040 I mean, I don't know. I mean, why do we 0:17:52.080 --> 0:17:54.399 have rules? It's a dumb Why why could you do 0:17:54.520 --> 0:17:56.880 something that? I mean, I don't know, nobody. 0:17:57.359 --> 0:18:00.840 Nobody benefits from this. You kicker on their own ball. 0:18:00.880 --> 0:18:04.360 Hold on a second, Like, why would somebody do it 0:18:05.400 --> 0:18:09.920 if they don't benefit from it? Like whatever that that 0:18:09.960 --> 0:18:14.080 thing is. I mean, if you deflated a football or 0:18:14.119 --> 0:18:16.439 you pumped it up, like, you would only do that 0:18:16.480 --> 0:18:20.520 if you felt it gave you some sort of an advantage, right, And. 0:18:20.480 --> 0:18:23.119 So we'd like kickers have their own ball. 0:18:23.880 --> 0:18:26.359 I mean, okay, but that's not the rule. 0:18:26.960 --> 0:18:28.920 Like if the rule is everybody can have their own ball, 0:18:28.960 --> 0:18:32.480 and we actually do allow quarterbacks to break the ball 0:18:32.520 --> 0:18:35.119 in and do what they want to do. 0:18:35.200 --> 0:18:37.480 So you realize that Aaron Rodgers told me that he 0:18:37.680 --> 0:18:42.760 over inflated footballs and nobody said anything about that because 0:18:42.760 --> 0:18:45.320 he didn't have a guy known as the inflator and 0:18:45.520 --> 0:18:49.920 Brady had a guy known as the deflator. It's silly. 0:18:50.160 --> 0:18:51.119 I don't know, it's silly. 0:18:51.640 --> 0:18:55.239 Are you saying silly? But to me, I mean if 0:18:55.359 --> 0:18:56.800 the question. 0:18:56.920 --> 0:19:00.800 Calling into question Tom Brady's Super Bowl putting it over gosh, 0:19:00.840 --> 0:19:01.640