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Speaker 1: This is a Jesse Kelly show.

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Speaker 2: It is the Jesse Kelly Show. Let's have some fun

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Speaker 2: on a Wednesday, and it's going to be an enormous show.

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Speaker 2: On this Wednesday, we are going to talk about how

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Speaker 2: how you create the world of make believe that we've

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Speaker 2: referenced the past two days on the show. Because this

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Speaker 2: Trump is Hitler story is just perfect. It's a perfect example.

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Speaker 2: We'll learn a little lesson about how they create that world.

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Speaker 2: Here in a moment. We have Selena Zito coming up.

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Speaker 2: A thirty minutes or so from now, I guess probably

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Speaker 2: is exactly thirty minutes. There's an exact time, since it's radio.

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Speaker 2: Selena's coming up. We are going to talk about them

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Speaker 2: weaponizing government, how they justify it. We have voicemails, lots

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Speaker 2: of them. We have emails, We have killer whales. All

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Speaker 2: that and so much more coming up tonight on the

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Speaker 2: world famous Jesse Kelly Show. I want to first begin here.

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Speaker 2: We've talked before. I'm not going to do a history lesson.

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Speaker 2: Don't get your hopes up, but we've talked before about

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Speaker 2: the island of Saipan in World War Two. This will

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Speaker 2: come back to the Trump stuff for today. So just

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Speaker 2: stay with me. Saipan Battle us. We're marching across the

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Speaker 2: Pacific and we end up in the Marianas Islands and

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Speaker 2: we end up in an island called Saipan. We fight

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Speaker 2: through Saipan, we get clear to the north side of

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Speaker 2: the island. We've essentially captured the well trapped the Japanese

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Speaker 2: on the north side of the island. We haven't captured

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Speaker 2: them yet, but the ones we haven't killed, the ones

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Speaker 2: who are still alive, they're on the north side of

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Speaker 2: the island. But this is really one of the first

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Speaker 2: places where we encountered Japanese civilians. For the most part,

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Speaker 2: we've been fighting in these places Guadalcanal and places like that,

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Speaker 2: and it was just Japanese troops. You see a Japanese person,

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Speaker 2: you shoot him. He's the he's in the army, right.

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Speaker 2: But finally we got in to the civilian population and

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Speaker 2: that that was very, very difficult for Americans. And you

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Speaker 2: can feel proud about this because our country, because Western

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Speaker 2: civilization is so good and so decent and believes in

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Speaker 2: It was so hard for our troops to fight in

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Speaker 2: and amongst civilians. They didn't want women and kids being hurt.

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Speaker 2: If you ever watch anything or read anything about veterans

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Speaker 2: when they come home, very rarely do you read something

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Speaker 2: you'll hear that, but that's rare. So often though, it was, oh,

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Speaker 2: this woman got killed because they were using her as

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Speaker 2: through Saipan and we get clear to the top, clear

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Speaker 2: to the north side of the island. We did everything

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Speaker 2: Come the safety. We would drop leaflets we won't harm you.

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Speaker 2: And there was a ton of experience Americans had where

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Speaker 2: they did get a hold of some Japanese civilians and

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Speaker 2: they brought them in and they cared for the medical care.

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Speaker 2: They're just taking care of them the way you would

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Speaker 2: want American troops to act. Kill the enemy, take care

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Speaker 2: of the innocence. That's how you would want. That's what

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Speaker 2: an area not to give it away for those who

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Speaker 2: don't know, that is now known as the suicide cliffs.

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Speaker 2: What happened there, well, what happened there was horrible, horrible

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Speaker 2: in a way I can't even really put into words.

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Speaker 2: You see, I love my children. If you have children,

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Speaker 2: them without hesitation. It's not like it would be a

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Speaker 2: decision making. But Japanese troops were on those cliffs, and

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Speaker 2: the civilians began to jump off the cliffs, off the cliffs,

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Speaker 2: And not only would they jump into the rocks, they

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Speaker 2: How could someone do that? How could someone? There are

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Speaker 2: What that doesn't make any sense? Well it does when

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Speaker 2: you understand the Japanese government at that time was deeply evil, evil, demonic, racist,

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Speaker 2: beat into the civilian population of Saipan and on the mainland.

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Speaker 2: But we'll just focus on Saipan. That the Marines and

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Speaker 2: the women and the children. You can use your imagination.

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Speaker 2: There are children listening. I know this is already heavy enough,

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Speaker 2: the government not only told the civilians that American troops

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Speaker 2: over and over and over and over again. So, if

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Speaker 2: believe it or not, you can talk yourself welf into

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Speaker 2: throwing her off as being an act of love. If

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Speaker 2: you allow yourself to be conditioned and twisted to that level,

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Speaker 2: you can do unspeakable evil if you are listening to

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Speaker 2: the wrong people. How how could somebody in Butler, Pennsylvania

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Speaker 2: possibly think he's the good guy? Crawling on to a

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Speaker 2: trying to blow off Donald Trump's head. And he died

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Speaker 2: when a high powered rifle round rearranged his face for him.

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Speaker 2: He died thinking he's the good guy, the guy at

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Speaker 2: was going to name him. I almost named him. I

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Speaker 2: the golf course who tried to murder Donald Trump down

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Speaker 2: how he talked. Read what his son said afterwards. He

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Speaker 2: was sitting there on a golf course with a high

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Speaker 2: Trump is just a Republican nominee for president. He's a father,

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Speaker 2: he's a grandfather, he's a husband, a little rough around

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Speaker 2: the edges, certainly not some fascist type. How could you possibly,

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Speaker 2: How do these things keep happening? Why do we have

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Speaker 2: acts of violence committed against Republicans by Democrats in this

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Speaker 2: Why are they murdering, assaulting, vandalizing? Why do you firebomb

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Speaker 2: a pro life pregnancy center and go home that night

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Speaker 2: Reminding you you can email the show Jesse at Jesse

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Speaker 2: have brought up a million different instances of this throughout

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Speaker 2: You know how you had to go? All right, I

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Speaker 3: Donald Trump was president. He said he wanted generals like

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Speaker 2: Adolf Hitler had great generals, and they hated him because

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Speaker 3: It is deeply troubling and incredibly dangerous that Donald Trump

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Speaker 2: All of this is it's kind of hilarious that he

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Speaker 3: Further evidence for the American people of who Donald Trump

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Speaker 2: Of course, Corin Diversity Higher jumped on it.

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Speaker 2: To How did this happen? Well, this is how this

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Speaker 2: How in the world can American democrats assault and murder

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Speaker 2: eight hundred the number four relief Selena Zito Next feeling

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Speaker 2: a little stocky, follow and subscribe on social at Jesse

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Speaker 2: ask if Selena forgot to pick or or neglected to

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Speaker 2: that song, it's just so you it is.

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Speaker 4: And also Groundhog Day, doesn't it make you think of

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Speaker 2: Because it does that, and that song by Sonny and

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Speaker 2: let's let's deal with electoral politics here, because I look

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Speaker 2: I see the ads Democrat candidates are running in states

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Speaker 4: Oh, you know it is. You know. Obviously, the polls

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Speaker 2: Okay, I again, we're speaking with Selena Zito. One of

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Speaker 2: Why has she not been able to win them over again?

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Speaker 2: You ask me, and I'm going to tell you she's

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Speaker 4: Is it? What is it Susan share their values? She

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Speaker 2: All right, now, you mentioned Trump has I may keep

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Speaker 2: Why don't we ever see fifty five percent anymore? Well? Never,

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Speaker 4: Well, we are divided. However, his personality and coupled with

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Speaker 4: Does he?

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Speaker 1: Sure?

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Speaker 3: Will he?

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Speaker 4: No? I don't think so. But you know, I understand

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Speaker 4: that this is who he is. This is how who

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Speaker 4: he's always been. He's been very successful at being this

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Speaker 4: and he's not likely to change it. Is very much

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Speaker 4: what I said in twenty sixteen. People that supports him

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Speaker 4: take him seriously, but they don't take everything that he

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Speaker 4: says literally because half of their experience with Donald Trump

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Speaker 4: was him as an entertainer. However, my profession takes everything

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Speaker 4: that he says literally, and they do not take him

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Speaker 4: seriously as a presidential candidate.

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Speaker 2: Ah, we will. We're going to go to break real

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Speaker 2: quick and we're gonna come back. I have questions first,

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Speaker 2: Selena Zito about the realignment of the parties. She just

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Speaker 2: talked about that, but is this permanent? Are they going

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Speaker 2: this direction? What does that mean for the country. We'll

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Speaker 2: be back with Selena's hang on, Miss does catch up

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Speaker 2: Jesse kellyshow dot com. It is the Jesse Kelly Show.

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Speaker 2: Good call Chris. Every now and then Chris pulls out

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Speaker 2: something good. It's about once a year, but every now

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Speaker 2: and then he'll do it. Remember, you can email the

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Speaker 2: show Jesse at Jesse kellyshow dot com. You can leave

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Speaker 2: us a voicemail eight seven seven three seven seven four

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Speaker 2: three seven three Back with Selena Zito. Okay, Selena, you

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Speaker 2: brought up the New Deal Democrats and you were talking

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Speaker 2: about the coalition Obama held together and then created a

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Speaker 2: new one, and now we have Trump that definitely it's

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Speaker 2: much more of a nationalists, populist kind of a coalition

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Speaker 2: against definitely different than the Bush era Republicanism. My question

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Speaker 2: is are bow parties realigning, because that's what I have argued.

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Speaker 2: It looks apparent to me they're realigning. Where they'll land

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Speaker 2: I don't know, but they are changing. Am I crazy?

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Speaker 4: No, You're not crazy. I mean parties are sort of

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Speaker 4: like tectonic plates, right, they moved slowly and slowly every

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Speaker 4: every four years, and then all of a sudden you

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Speaker 4: turn around and look and say, wall wait, wait, wait,

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Speaker 4: I think I belong over there. I don't belong over here.

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Speaker 4: And so today's Republican party. It used to be that

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Speaker 4: the sort of country club free traders were in the

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Speaker 4: driver's seats and the working class was in the back,

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Speaker 4: and there wasn't a lot of them, and the c

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Speaker 4: suite was really people were right in the middle. Well,

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Speaker 4: today the working class is in the driver's seat, the

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Speaker 4: c suite is still in the middle, and they're kind

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Speaker 4: of happy being right there. And now that the free

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Speaker 4: traders and the country club are in the back of

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Speaker 4: the bus, they're not driving. Who the party is they're

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Speaker 4: all in there, but it's just who who is driving

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Speaker 4: the coalition at the moment. The Democratic Party has shed

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Speaker 4: its working class and and is now focused on blacks,

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Speaker 4: women and college educated elites and and they've been lobbed

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Speaker 4: off some of the of the Wall Street types. But

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Speaker 4: you know, those are the ones that tend to just

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Speaker 4: live in liberal enclaves. Where you live matters county, what

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Speaker 4: county you live in, it matters. So you could be

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Speaker 4: a successful businessman and live in Westmoreland County, Pennsylvania, go

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Speaker 4: to the same school as as as your friend that

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Speaker 4: lives in Manhattan, have the exact same education and vote

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Speaker 4: very different. Because we vote, we sort of self sort

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Speaker 4: and we start to vote away around the around the

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Speaker 4: communities that we live in. That's what the challenge right

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Speaker 4: now is for Democrats is they have always sorted a

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Speaker 4: working class from white working class, Black working class and

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Speaker 4: Hispanic working class. Well, the black, white and Hispanic working

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Speaker 4: class are not divided by race. That is starting to blur.

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Speaker 4: They are more voting shoulder to shoulder rather than differently.

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Speaker 2: Ah See, that makes a lot of sense, and a

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Speaker 2: lot of those race lines. In fact, I was talking

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Speaker 2: about this last night. A lot of those race lines

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Speaker 2: really crystallized under Obama in ways they hadn't before him,

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Speaker 2: and it sounds like it's fading since it sounds like

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Speaker 2: he really he stoked a lot of racial division that

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Speaker 2: really wasn't there before he got there and is fading

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Speaker 2: after he left. Is that fair?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's absolutely fair. He did not stoke the race

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Speaker 4: division in two thousand and eight, but mayn by twenty

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Speaker 4: ten and going into twenty twelve, he was all up

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Speaker 4: in that. I mean, that was you know, that was

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Speaker 4: the thing, and it just never stopped continuing within the

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Speaker 4: Democratic Party. That is also why a lot of people

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Speaker 4: left the Democratic Party because they didn't like being divided

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Speaker 4: by their friends by race. They didn't see their friends

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Speaker 4: that were a different race, and they didn't see them

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Speaker 4: as other. They saw them as their friends, and the

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Speaker 4: Democratic Party tried to divide them and make everybody an other.

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Speaker 2: Ah. Yeah, that's the old friend enemy distinction. We've been

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Speaker 2: talking about a lot. Selena Zito. You can sign up

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Speaker 2: and should sign up for her newsletter at Selenazito dot com.

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Speaker 2: She is the best. You'll be smarter than all of

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Speaker 2: your friends. Selena, Thank you so much. I appreciate you.

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Speaker 4: Thank Jesse, Bye bye.

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Speaker 2: Don't you want Selena to make you a meal?

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Speaker 1: What?

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Speaker 2: Chris? Are you not allowed to say that? Is that insensitive?

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Speaker 2: I've yes, she's Italian? Okay, we look, what do you

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Speaker 2: mean it's pig and pasta. They make beef too, Chris,

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Speaker 2: It's not all you know, It's not all about you people, Chris,

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Speaker 2: all right, the rest of us can enjoy some food.

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Speaker 2: They make incredible beef.

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Speaker 4: Veal.

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Speaker 2: You don't eat veal? What's what? You've never had it?

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Speaker 2: Why don't? What do you mean you don't like it?

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Speaker 2: You don't like tender beef? Corey? Talk to him? Who

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Speaker 2: doesn't like veal? You know? Spaghetti? Like a spaghetti with

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Speaker 2: meat sauce? Who doesn't like that? I'll tell you I

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Speaker 2: had this. Uh. I found this Italian place recently, and

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Speaker 2: I knew. I knew we were going to be good friends.

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Speaker 2: Me in this Italian place when I saw they had

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Speaker 2: a spicy preshudo pasta. Chris is prescudo pork? You can't

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Speaker 2: eat pursudo? Right, Well, I'm sure they can do it kosher,

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Speaker 2: which would be not as good. But oh it's so good.

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Speaker 2: Pershudo is so good. Maybe they'll do like a spicy

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Speaker 2: motz of b al pasta or something like that for you. What, Chris,

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Speaker 2: I don't know all the rules, but you don't like

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Speaker 2: Italian food. You know what that is, Chris jealousy because

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Speaker 2: your food sucks. Look, let's be honest, Bud, it's not good,

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Speaker 2: all right, we all we all like a bagel. We

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Speaker 2: all will walk into a Jewish Delhi in New York

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Speaker 2: and we'll all eat a bagel. And with all due

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Speaker 2: respect God's chosen people, you really really really make some

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Speaker 2: awful food. Man, It's bad, It's really bad. I remember

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Speaker 2: when we were in Israel. Remember when they shut everything

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Speaker 2: down for was it? What was it called the was

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Speaker 2: it the Sabbath? I forget what it was. They shut

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Speaker 2: it down Shabbat. That's right. I knew i'd get it. Eventually,

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Speaker 2: they shut everything down for Shabbat and we were left

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Speaker 2: with nothing but just the most basic Jewish cuisine. And

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Speaker 2: I think I I lost ten pounds I did. I

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Speaker 2: couldn't eat. I went on a hunger strike against you.

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Speaker 2: I want you to know I was rooting against you, specifically.

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Speaker 2: I blamed you the entire time. It was so so hungry. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: we have another hour. We have well, we have two

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Speaker 2: more hours. All kinds of stuff still to come, We

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Speaker 2: have Daniel Turner, great things coming still on the world

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Speaker 2: famous Jesse Kelly Show. Hang On,