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Speaker 4: Anthony Dorset sporting his former team here the oh he
Speaker 4: was not a Las Vegas Raiders.
Speaker 5: Oh Oakland Raider? Who playton?
Speaker 4: We got former Dallas Cowboy, former Dallas Cowboy, Barry Church.
Speaker 5: Pastor all dressed up chocolate.
Speaker 4: I am knocking new He scrugs, here for the conversation
Speaker 4: and not playing. So gentlemen, it's raining outside. The cowboys
Speaker 4: are outside practicing.
Speaker 6: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Here we go, Here we go, come on, so here
Speaker 2: we go.
Speaker 7: This this, this, let me jump into this right now ahead,
Speaker 7: y'all soft in the molly.
Speaker 4: Rising man who cares first of the benefit of It's
Speaker 4: a flood warning in the area.
Speaker 6: Where's the flooded out out there?
Speaker 8: I'm just saying what the what's the benefits, man, Like,
Speaker 8: what's the You're playing indoors the next like three three.
Speaker 6: Games, Jerry might be opening up the roof.
Speaker 9: Up.
Speaker 8: Man.
Speaker 7: That's the first thing I said when I came in.
Speaker 7: I'm like, Okay, it's raining, so they out there or.
Speaker 10: Maybe they're gonna open it up.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 10: But at the end of the day, what did you
Speaker 10: say before we came on?
Speaker 8: You gotta you gotta play, bro, You gotta you gotta
Speaker 8: go through the elements.
Speaker 9: You gotta you.
Speaker 8: Gotta have a little put you in the elements that
Speaker 8: you don't know everybody's been in there forever. And I honestly,
Speaker 8: I didn't even think about it that deep when you
Speaker 8: were saying that and like, oh, Jerry's gonna let open
Speaker 8: the dome. I'm thinking like, hey, shot, he's coming from
Speaker 8: a competitive environment.
Speaker 9: Hey get out there.
Speaker 8: We're gonna make you practice tougher than what it is
Speaker 8: for when you get out there. But this is a
Speaker 8: you're playing the Eagles. They got everything this week, you
Speaker 8: got Jaalen Carter. It's like, give yourself the competitive air.
Speaker 8: So he might be playing and rain giving you a competitive.
Speaker 11: You open up if you open up the dome You've
Speaker 11: been here for decades when it was a thunderstorm. Has
Speaker 11: has Jerry ever opened up the roof when it's raining?
Speaker 6: Where is it right now?
Speaker 9: It's raining raining.
Speaker 5: I had an hour drive before work.
Speaker 6: When I came in, it wasn't it wasn't raining.
Speaker 5: My line is definitely slick out there. So I just
Speaker 5: asked the question. You were here church, they were, They
Speaker 5: were here early. So I just asked him.
Speaker 4: I said, help me, And I asked producer Chris, I'm
Speaker 4: just asking a question. Okay, I don't I didn't play.
Speaker 10: I don't know.
Speaker 5: They have they have built the force, they have built in.
Speaker 8: Your atility, and that's what I said. I'm with you, though,
Speaker 8: Barry on this. Like I understand trying to get the
Speaker 8: competitive edge or whatever the case may be, if you
Speaker 8: do let the top open, but where you're at right now,
Speaker 8: we can't afford those injuries, like because it is the
Speaker 8: pattern is going to be that good to where we're
Speaker 8: gonna win. But say we go out there and yeah,
Speaker 8: they're not in full past. They're just in hell men say,
Speaker 8: and your T shirts and stuff, but it go up there,
Speaker 8: catch one catch it. Somebody reaggravate something not gonna but
Speaker 8: that's when it's like this was dumb, Like what was
Speaker 8: it the jayde and Daniels thing where you sit there saying, oh,
Speaker 8: he shouldn't have been in late in the game, and
Speaker 8: then like hindsight twenty twenty.
Speaker 7: That's I say this, you know, and y'all know shoddy
Speaker 7: and you know and everything else like that. I really
Speaker 7: don't think that if it was going to be something
Speaker 7: that was going to slow down the speed of practice
Speaker 7: or actually like impair practice in any kind of way,
Speaker 7: that they would still be out there, Like I think
Speaker 7: it'll be real easy, like yo, just take it inside.
Speaker 2: You know, which is true.
Speaker 5: So I just wanted to ask the question says, you know,
Speaker 5: we saw.
Speaker 7: I'm not saying that when when did it get to
Speaker 7: be so soft that like just because it's and like
Speaker 7: I said, it wasn't raining when I pulled in, so
Speaker 7: when y'all came in, it might be a little bit different.
Speaker 9: You know, get that. I tell you what.
Speaker 8: It got to be soft when you bought these amenities
Speaker 8: that you have, when you got a nice indoor like
Speaker 8: that that barely get used.
Speaker 4: It's like, which is why they you know, built it.
Speaker 4: That was one of the things. Oh well, we need,
Speaker 4: we need to be able to go indoors and implement.
Speaker 5: Whether that was that's part of it.
Speaker 4: That was all, especially when they were back at at
Speaker 4: at Valley and they.
Speaker 5: Had to go on over the Highland Park to go practice.
Speaker 4: So anyway, just just use the parts.
Speaker 2: Now, that was the year before I got that situation.
Speaker 4: I was going up that day because it was it
Speaker 4: was another O t A. It was like the final
Speaker 4: ots started to go up there and I was like,
Speaker 4: you know what, I'm gonna sit right here on this
Speaker 4: couch and then looked up and saw everything that happened, man.
Speaker 2: And yeah, it was. That was brutal.
Speaker 9: It was.
Speaker 4: It was an awful day. It was an awful day.
Speaker 4: And yeah, so uh no, I won't forget it. I
Speaker 4: don't forget those that were you know, injured in that.
Speaker 2: It was.
Speaker 5: It was traumatic.
Speaker 4: But anyway, the Cowboys built the star for, you know,
Speaker 4: to be able to have that option. So Brian Shot,
Speaker 4: the head coach, decided not to take the option. So
Speaker 4: the Cowboys were four or five and one taking on
Speaker 4: the Eagles, and Matt Eberflus, the defensive coordinator, got a
Speaker 4: little bit of help.
Speaker 5: Against your raiders.
Speaker 4: They did well, so Ibra Flues met the meeting and
Speaker 4: he was asked, you know, was what was it like
Speaker 4: in the office when they said that, hey man, we
Speaker 4: traded for defensive tackle Quinny Williams, And he said, quote,
Speaker 4: you could have heard a big yell. It was an
Speaker 4: exciting time for sure. Then he went on to say
Speaker 4: q has played in the attack front, so he knows it.
Speaker 5: The verbiage is.
Speaker 4: Very similar having Aaron white Cott in here with him.
Speaker 4: It's crazy how things work out. It's been a very
Speaker 4: easy transition for him. He's a true pro. He helps everybody,
Speaker 4: not just with his talent and his play, but he's
Speaker 4: coaching on the sideline. When you have the best players
Speaker 4: on the field practicing like Williams, everyone else follows. When
Speaker 4: your most talented guys do that, it has a big
Speaker 4: effect on the.
Speaker 5: Whole football team.
Speaker 4: And he also said that defensive tackles Kenny Clark and
Speaker 4: Osa Digzoo also graded out very well in their first
Speaker 4: Monday night game together along with Williams.
Speaker 11: The Gazoo was that PFFS top graded.
Speaker 8: Guys, the two top graded defense right here at the start,
Speaker 8: so you know newly you wasn't here. But the question
Speaker 8: was proposed to Bury last with all of us, but
Speaker 8: it was just like, do you think somebody can come
Speaker 8: in and be a leader right away week one? And
Speaker 8: me and Ad was like, you can being the player
Speaker 8: that you are, your resume already being there, but also
Speaker 8: just leading by example. And I think we seem to
Speaker 8: effect this weekend. So it's like now with a week
Speaker 8: going past it, Barry.
Speaker 11: Yeah, that's that was one of my answers, was you know,
Speaker 11: leading by example, because I mean you see it, like
Speaker 11: you see him going out there dominating the way he
Speaker 11: did on that interior line.
Speaker 2: But not only that.
Speaker 11: I mean there's clips from the sideline where he's coming
Speaker 11: off the field with the young Donovhan Azerakle, young rookie
Speaker 11: defensive end, and.
Speaker 2: On the way up he's coaching him up. He's like, man, yeah,
Speaker 2: you should have hit this inside move right there.
Speaker 5: That's when you want to get the pressure.
Speaker 11: When I have that guard or whatever going backwards like
Speaker 11: that you get on the inside.
Speaker 2: So he's coaching these guys up, He's he's giving.
Speaker 11: Them that on field coaching, like he's an extension of
Speaker 11: the coaching staff, And that's what you hadn't had on
Speaker 11: this defense all all season long. To me, it looked
Speaker 11: like this defense was just everybody was too afraid to
Speaker 11: talk because they didn't have the confidence to go out
Speaker 11: there and pretty much vocalize what they want to do
Speaker 11: out there. Now with Williams in there, established guy, all pro,
Speaker 11: perennial all Pro guy, one of the best defensive tackles
Speaker 11: international Football League, came from the elite program, and he
Speaker 11: came exactly so you know, you still undefeated, but he's
Speaker 11: going to sting man.
Speaker 2: He's definitely doing this thing.
Speaker 4: Out there, Dak Prescott said in Vegas spun in after
Speaker 4: the game. We asked him about Quinn and he just
Speaker 4: talked about how he said, hey, man, I have to
Speaker 4: get here earlier because he's already here. He's setting the tone.
Speaker 4: He says, I'm learning from him. And so when Quentin
Speaker 4: met with the media yesterday, I asked him about the
Speaker 4: comment that Dak said. He said, Man, I'm just he says,
Speaker 4: I'm just trying to be me, and then he went
Speaker 4: on to talk about what a great leader Dak was.
Speaker 4: So this is one of those things and you guys played,
Speaker 4: have played and been in the rooms where you make
Speaker 4: a trade and you know what you see on tape
Speaker 4: of the talent. But then when you add more than Hey,
Speaker 4: here's a guy that's bringing his lunch pale, showing everybody
Speaker 4: this is what I'm doing. You can talk all day, love,
Speaker 4: but are you about the work? He's about the work.
Speaker 4: He's serious business. And then where I'll give guys in
Speaker 4: the room credit like a Kenny Clark and the Osu,
Speaker 4: a Diggi Zua that they really like, Hey, man, dude,
Speaker 4: you can make my job easier. Yeah, I mean you
Speaker 4: played d tackle. You know, dream is one on one.
Speaker 4: Dreams one on one is because they're doubling Q. They
Speaker 4: out there with choking him on one play and he's
Speaker 4: still out here recond shots.
Speaker 5: So Quinn Q is going to get double. That means
Speaker 5: you're free.
Speaker 4: So if you're able to get free, that's when we
Speaker 4: saw Houston get back there or Diggi zuas be able
Speaker 4: to play. This is a trade that, when you think
Speaker 4: about it, they had to give up next year's two.
Speaker 4: They're not going to find a player in the second
Speaker 4: round that's as good as Quinn, and then they're going
Speaker 4: to give up a one. If you get a player
Speaker 4: who can do all of that beat dominant elite player
Speaker 4: on the football field on his prime and affect the
Speaker 4: room where everybody's like, that's the guy you pay the prime.
Speaker 8: In my opinion, yeah, it's it's still it's still to
Speaker 8: be still to be seen. But right now at the
Speaker 8: initial start, especially just for the coming out party, it's like,
Speaker 8: right now it's starting to look.
Speaker 9: Like the Cowboys have one.
Speaker 8: Because when you think about it, you said, this was
Speaker 8: the argument with Kenny Clark coming in here.
Speaker 9: Kenny Clark, naturally he made a.
Speaker 8: Couple of people better, but it was like, ah, is
Speaker 8: he good enough to make a defense better? Well, you've
Speaker 8: seen that from day one. You've seen the man Kwinn
Speaker 8: Williams come in here, have not only one and a
Speaker 8: half sacks, not only have the production, but naturally, like
Speaker 8: you said, made everybody else better around him, and the
Speaker 8: defense significantly got better. Now the real test is going
Speaker 8: against the Eagles this week. But to come and play
Speaker 8: a penetration defense and think about how dominating he is one,
Speaker 8: I'm excited I think he won, but then also too,
Speaker 8: it makes me have another question that I want to
Speaker 8: ask y'all. As or as defensive former players. We talked
Speaker 8: about eber Flu's defense not being that complex. We're talking
Speaker 8: about Quinn winhas coming in here doing what he's doing
Speaker 8: and for him to significantly make this defense better. And
Speaker 8: then you see a guy like Carson come off of
Speaker 8: ir play every snap. Was the scheme really that difficult?
Speaker 8: Or was it the players?
Speaker 5: Man, Carpenter? The carpenter's too.
Speaker 10: So this is what I'm seeing, all right?
Speaker 7: Like start like you always like with basketball, I had
Speaker 7: to tell my son, like, Okay, the point guard is
Speaker 7: basically like the coach's brain on the court, all right,
Speaker 7: So flus has been looking for that that that that
Speaker 7: that person in that defense that could be basically his
Speaker 7: brain on the field more so than anything.
Speaker 9: Right.
Speaker 7: So what I'm seeing, of course is with like, okay,
Speaker 7: the Kenney Clark edition was definitely one of them, but
Speaker 7: then who to bring quinning it? But now with this linebacker, okay,
Speaker 7: all right, so now we got somebody who could actually
Speaker 7: start start getting guys lined up pre snapped and start
Speaker 7: calling over some players pre snap and everything like that.
Speaker 6: What I'm seeing now is just like what you said.
Speaker 7: The carpenter got his tools, bro, and it's a totally
Speaker 7: different ball game. You know what they say, it ain't
Speaker 7: no fun When the rabbit got the gun, and right
Speaker 7: now the Cowboys seemed like they got the gun.
Speaker 10: But this week right.
Speaker 7: Here, you can't. You can't, you can't bush at all.
Speaker 7: You got call it what it is. This is going
Speaker 7: to be one that this is, this is the test
Speaker 7: all right at to this point right here, you know,
Speaker 7: and especially with the additions, this is going to be major.
Speaker 7: But I'm excited, you know what I'm saying, And I'm
Speaker 7: really excited to see just like what you guys have
Speaker 7: talked about this whole season, Flus got this defense that
Speaker 7: if you can ball, you can just go downhill and
Speaker 7: make plays.
Speaker 10: And it's looking like that's where they're headed right now.
Speaker 2: And we y'all play defense. Y'all understand this.
Speaker 11: When you see a couple of cats balling out on
Speaker 11: that defensive side of the football, you don't want to
Speaker 11: be that guy that's that's left out. You don't want
Speaker 11: to be that guy that's like, man, you know what
Speaker 11: Williams that made of played? Oh the Yazua made a play.
Speaker 11: These guys over there breaking up passes, I'm just out there.
Speaker 11: You don't want to go into that film session. Everybody's like, yeah,
Speaker 11: you see my past break up, now you see my
Speaker 11: sack out there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yea, that's all all that, man. Yeah.
Speaker 11: Yeah, So it's forcing everybody out there to raise Yeah exactly,
Speaker 11: it's raising what they call force multiplier, whatever the case
Speaker 11: may be. He's forcing everybody to raise their game, which
Speaker 11: is which is awesome for.
Speaker 7: The and that's what you want to have. You want
Speaker 7: to have that type of defense that it's like, oh
Speaker 7: you just made that big hit.
Speaker 5: Oh okay, watch.
Speaker 6: So that right there, that competition in that room.
Speaker 10: Let's let's go.
Speaker 8: You gotta saying in the D line, sacks come in bunches,
Speaker 8: and when you've seen that, the sax was coming in
Speaker 8: the overflow, but it wasn't even that like like they
Speaker 8: say in church, when you get that overflow, what they say,
Speaker 8: tips and overthrows got to get them.
Speaker 9: And you've seen that in the back.
Speaker 8: So it's fronting and helping the back to back end
Speaker 8: and helping the front and it's really complimentary football. So
Speaker 8: back to what you originally said, like that's all right.
Speaker 8: Now it's looking like the Cowboys is one and Jerry's
Speaker 8: right when he said help is on the way. I
Speaker 8: could do the trading and stuff like that, because Quinn
Speaker 8: Williams not just him Logan as well, because he was
Speaker 8: another key component in that trade. But all the pieces
Speaker 8: that he have added, it's starting to look like they
Speaker 8: got a complete def It's right.
Speaker 2: This is one week.
Speaker 9: It's one week.
Speaker 2: It's the Raiders.
Speaker 4: Raiders are one of the worst teams in the National
Speaker 4: Football League. But I also say this, you couldn't beat Arizona.
Speaker 4: It's one of the worst teams in the league right
Speaker 4: now either. So at least you started right here. Quinton Williams,
Speaker 4: Quentin Williams, Quinn Williams has already made his his impact there.
Speaker 4: The test for the Cowboys and even when the you
Speaker 4: know when DQ was here, can you beat good teams?
Speaker 5: That has been the issue.
Speaker 4: So they get Philadelphia coming here, who's in first place,
Speaker 4: who's had some issues. This is not the team that
Speaker 4: won the Super Bowl last year. This is not Saquon
Speaker 4: Barkley who was challenging for the uh season record and rushing.
Speaker 4: This is a different football team. How do they respond?
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
Speaker 5: It's going to be a challenge up front. We talked
Speaker 5: about yesterday.
Speaker 4: So when I was in the locker room, one of
Speaker 4: the guys I wanted to talk to was rookie Tyler Booker.
Speaker 4: Tyler Booker's first game got got a little bit of
Speaker 4: help in the form of yeah, Dak Prescott got thrown
Speaker 4: out the football game before the first offensive snap.
Speaker 5: He'll be there today. He's a very good player. He's
Speaker 5: an elite player.
Speaker 4: As much as we talk about Q on the defensive
Speaker 4: side for the Cowboys, Carter is that.
Speaker 2: Dude over there.
Speaker 4: These are two of the premier guys in the league
Speaker 4: that are gonna go at it.
Speaker 5: So Tyler Booker will get some of that. He said
Speaker 5: when I asked.
Speaker 4: Him, how do you feel from your first game in
Speaker 4: the NFL to now? And he said, man like night
Speaker 4: and day, because remember it was the first game against Philadelphia,
Speaker 4: and then he got hurt, missed some time, and then
Speaker 4: he came back.
Speaker 5: He is, he's been, He's been a good draft pick.
Speaker 4: This is not a Mossie Smith situation where you're like, hey, man,
Speaker 4: you got it. But this guy loves football. This guy's
Speaker 4: here to play. But this is going to be one
Speaker 4: of those tests where you need a rookie and Tyler
Speaker 4: Booker to be on his game. They're going to have
Speaker 4: to figure out a way to run the football looking
Speaker 4: over here. Statistics when it comes to defense here yards
Speaker 4: per game, Philadelphia is giving up a bucko six, so
Speaker 4: they're tied fourteen. Cowboys defense right now when it comes run,
Speaker 4: they're twenty four. They're improving, but you've got to figure
Speaker 4: out a way to get one hundred yard. You gotta
Speaker 4: figure out a way to get a hundreyards. Yeah, the
Speaker 4: first game they were, they were closed. But I feel
Speaker 4: like they rapping the ball decently that first game.
Speaker 5: That first half they were good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they was rolling.
Speaker 4: Then the whole storm happened, will break, and then the
Speaker 4: second half nobody didn't even Yeah.
Speaker 6: That's but they were still missing Carter too as well.
Speaker 4: Yeah, miss the big old piece out of their But
Speaker 4: they've got to figure they've got to figure out a
Speaker 4: way to get one hundred yards between Williams and Malik Davis.
Speaker 2: And these two, these two tackles for the Cowboys Smith
Speaker 2: Steele and uh Guyden. But they gotta bring they gotta
Speaker 2: they gotta bring it man.
Speaker 11: You know, shot he was talking last week talking about
Speaker 11: that that right tackle spot is kind of you know,
Speaker 11: a spot where they're looking, you know, they want to
Speaker 11: steals the guy right now. But he's got to improve
Speaker 11: and they got some guys that can come off the
Speaker 11: edge for Philadelphia. The young guy from Miami that they
Speaker 11: traded for Phillips. Phillips, he's been on a tear since
Speaker 11: he's gotten the Philadelphi has been on a tear. Out
Speaker 11: the sack in the quarterback TfL's, whatever the case may be.
Speaker 11: He's been on a tier. Graham came out of retirement.
Speaker 11: He's out there splitting heads. So they got the interior.
Speaker 11: This old line's got to bring their lunch pails because
Speaker 11: you're dealing with the Georgia boys, you know, Carter and
Speaker 11: Davis out there, but also on that edge man Nolan Smith's.
Speaker 2: I mean they got some cat Nakobe yah.
Speaker 11: I mean it's gonna be one of the them trenches
Speaker 11: where they gotta win the trenches if they want to
Speaker 11: win this ball game.
Speaker 10: Yeah, we talked about it, you know.
Speaker 7: We said it's gonna have to be some bullyball, you know,
Speaker 7: and and we are, like you said, going to have
Speaker 7: to figure out a way to run the ball to
Speaker 7: try to slow them boys down because if they could
Speaker 7: just pin their ears back and come downhill all game,
Speaker 7: it's gonna be ugly. So we're gonna have to stay
Speaker 7: committed to some type of run as we.
Speaker 4: Go to break here. The other thing that did to
Speaker 4: me is big. It is turnover margin. The Cowboys are
Speaker 4: negative four twenty, first in the league.
Speaker 2: And gonna win out of games like that.
Speaker 4: The Eagles are seventh plus six. You cannot give the
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Speaker 4: was a key part of the loss the first game.
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Speaker 4: Yesterday in the locker room, I asked about how do
Speaker 4: you slow down jail and Hurst. It was very fun
Speaker 4: because they briefed Quinn Williams about, Hey, here's what they're
Speaker 4: probably gonna ask you. He playing Eagles that arrival that
Speaker 4: good don't know we're about to find out. So all
Speaker 4: this stuff he's just trying to figure out. And so
Speaker 4: uh they asked Hi about playing Jalen Hurts like I
Speaker 4: played with.
Speaker 5: Him, that played with me in Alabama, and I know what.
Speaker 10: He could do.
Speaker 4: So uh, he's They know they have to try to
Speaker 4: limit him and keep him in the pocket. And with
Speaker 4: Saquon Barkley when we talked about here on players not yesterday,
Speaker 4: with Saquon Barkley not having the season he wants, But
Speaker 4: they've got to go ahead and figure out how to
Speaker 4: how to slow down uh Jalen Hurst.
Speaker 5: But that's still hard. It is, it's still a hard task.
Speaker 4: But if you're eber Fluse, what what what.
Speaker 5: Do you do with a spy linebacker?
Speaker 4: How do how do you limit this guy, especially knowing
Speaker 4: you've got a better front.
Speaker 2: Fow And he had a hell of a game playing
Speaker 2: the first go around.
Speaker 11: He had him, especially for bottling up Saquon and you know,
Speaker 11: making sure those receivers didn't hurt him. What hurt that
Speaker 11: defense in the first game was the rush lanes, and
Speaker 11: Hurts was able to all right, I'm dropping back. Oh
Speaker 11: there's an opening right there. Let me let me scamper
Speaker 11: through the ag gap. Let me scamper through the sea gap.
Speaker 11: The rush lanes were all off, and he was able
Speaker 11: to use his legs to really hurt the Dallas Coyle
Speaker 11: was a lot of those third and five, third and
Speaker 11: six is Hurts was able to go head and convert
Speaker 11: them using his legs, so to me, and I'm sure
Speaker 11: they'll get this day right. You got you know, improvements
Speaker 11: in that front seven, but you got to get those
Speaker 11: wrest lands together. You can't give him windows or holes
Speaker 11: to be able to escape through.
Speaker 2: And you gotta tackle better.
Speaker 11: I mean, we saw that it was abundant in that
Speaker 11: first game. Now there's different linebackers out there. You don't
Speaker 11: get you know, Murray and Lee Foul and those guys
Speaker 11: out there. But if he does escape, you gotta be
Speaker 11: able to bring him down. You gotta be able to
Speaker 11: tackle man, because there was a bunch of those opportunities
Speaker 11: that they had to be able to tackle on short
Speaker 11: of the first down marker. But he was able to
Speaker 11: escape and get it and prolong these drives. And this
Speaker 11: is a team that you don't want to give him
Speaker 11: more chances like you got to. You gotta stomp them
Speaker 11: out and get him off the field as much as
Speaker 11: you can. So to me, you gotta tackle better, and
Speaker 11: you gotta have them rush lands together or he's gonna
Speaker 11: be able to get u out of there.
Speaker 5: On you stay right there. When you talked.
Speaker 4: About getting off the field in that first game, Philadelphia
Speaker 4: converted eight of thirteen on thirty.
Speaker 2: You can't do that. That's eight of what thirteen years.
Speaker 2: You can't. You can't. I mean, you'll be tired. You
Speaker 2: gotta get off the field on the money down.
Speaker 4: Now, granted the Cowboys were good too, they were seven
Speaker 4: of eleven down. And you go back to that first half,
Speaker 4: and everybody was going in the first half, they just
Speaker 4: kept going back and forth. I mean, the first half
Speaker 4: was wild. When you go back and you look at it,
Speaker 4: I mean the first half on the box h twenty
Speaker 4: points for the Cowboys and twenty one for Philly in
Speaker 4: the first half. Then the second half there was only
Speaker 4: totally three points scored and Philly and and none in
Speaker 4: the fourth quarter. So first half, man, everybody was going
Speaker 4: back and forth, shootout. Second it was nothing. And so
Speaker 4: remember the Cowboys two were kicking too many field.
Speaker 15: Goals, Yeah, yeah, too many field goals in that game.
Speaker 5: And then you had to fumble inside.
Speaker 2: You know, oh, Miles saying.
Speaker 4: The things that get you beat, you know, that's where
Speaker 4: the things that get you beat red zone Cowboys two
Speaker 4: or three, Philadelphia three or three. You know, you do
Speaker 4: stuff like that, and there you go. And then of
Speaker 4: course they lost the turnover battle in that football game.
Speaker 8: I mean, you lost the turnover battle, but I think
Speaker 8: what's going to be the X factor and stopping Jalen
Speaker 8: hurts that it's going to be Eberflus this game, like
Speaker 8: he didn't have We keep making the and is your
Speaker 8: quote the carpenter and not having his tools. Well, we've
Speaker 8: seen them being able to stop them in that first game.
Speaker 8: But the way to break it down a little bit
Speaker 8: further where you were saying past rush lanes. The reason
Speaker 8: that he was able to escape because we didn't have
Speaker 8: no interior pressure. They were just going and stopping right there,
Speaker 8: and you had guys actually coming off the edge where
Speaker 8: they were just going back there. They created these gaps
Speaker 8: and he was escaping through the B gap. Now you
Speaker 8: got Quinn Williams. Now you have a Kenny Clark like.
Speaker 8: You don't have just one guy having playing penetration defense.
Speaker 9: You have another guy.
Speaker 8: And then you have Osa coming off the bench who's
Speaker 8: going to be high energy going against her two who's
Speaker 8: really a starter. So you have a three headed monster
Speaker 8: and now you can see the most effective Eberflus defense.
Speaker 8: We talked about it with his time at the coach.
Speaker 8: We talked about it at the Bears. He had a
Speaker 8: good defensive tackle, a good edge, and he had a
Speaker 8: good middle linebacker Roe Kwan Smith, Shaq Glennard. Now you
Speaker 8: have Logan Wilson back there doing that, but you have
Speaker 8: the most important factor, which is the d line. And
Speaker 8: when he does that, he's been the most effective. So
Speaker 8: I think that's going to be the X factor. We
Speaker 8: get to see him really scheme up things of how
Speaker 8: you're going to corral Jalen Hurts.
Speaker 7: Now definitely, and like you guys have already hit on,
Speaker 7: but Jadavian Clowney's in the building too, now you know
Speaker 7: what I mean, Which was an that wasn't here previously.
Speaker 7: And then two just as we're talking about the scheme,
Speaker 7: that's going to be inside of the scheme now with
Speaker 7: Quinn being there to communicate and Clark being inbre to
Speaker 7: communicate to as well. All right, I'm getting up field
Speaker 7: this far you coming here, okay, And and now hopefully
Speaker 7: you just don't have these ends getting up field just
Speaker 7: running by the quarterback. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Well, but I.
Speaker 5: Would say today at this right there, eye and this
Speaker 5: guy don't lie.
Speaker 4: I mean, if you got one guy that you just
Speaker 4: crashing down and next thing, you know, saying Sam's got
Speaker 4: to stop that.
Speaker 9: He does have to stop it.
Speaker 8: But in ebra Flu's defense, they teach you to just
Speaker 8: get a feel because now when you have those different separations,
Speaker 8: you gotta have over on linebacker is just going to
Speaker 8: fill that gap. So even though Sam is getting up
Speaker 8: the field, if you got Clintic Clark, that's getting up
Speaker 8: the field as well. But he's causing this separation, is
Speaker 8: running zigzag. You're gonna have your running back by that time.
Speaker 8: Somebody should be doing that. So as much as we're
Speaker 8: on them about getting up the field.
Speaker 9: I can't say.
Speaker 8: In the eber Flus defense, they tell them soon as
Speaker 8: you get off the ball, pen your years back and
Speaker 8: go ahead and get up there. Now you've got to
Speaker 8: have some situational awareness, and that's the next thing.
Speaker 7: You can get a retrace too as well. You to
Speaker 7: be able to come back up, you know.
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Speaker 4: Woll j Maorian Overshown came back from injury made his
Speaker 4: debut against the Raiders. He said he did not like
Speaker 4: the way he played. First game back. He says he'll
Speaker 4: be better. But I asked him the question, you're in
Speaker 4: the midst of playing three games in a eleven days,
Speaker 4: how does your body make it through? Could they put
Speaker 4: you on a pitch count? And being the competitor he is,
Speaker 4: I can do what I can do. You know, you
Speaker 4: never know about the situations. Meaning I guess he's starting
Speaker 4: to say, hey, man, if we got to compete for
Speaker 4: four quarters, I got to play the full sixty.
Speaker 5: I played a full sixty. But you guys have.
Speaker 4: All played, and you've all worked, you know, with injuries yourselves.
Speaker 4: How should they approach Tomorro and Oversharing a player they're
Speaker 4: going to need the rest of the way three games
Speaker 4: and eleven days for.
Speaker 8: Me, I say, put them on a pitch count, like
Speaker 8: being a high power energy guy, like you could tell
Speaker 8: that by the way that he's playing.
Speaker 9: He's playing sideline.
Speaker 8: The sideline and sometimes coaches, this is your job as
Speaker 8: being the leader amongst the leaders and saving guys from
Speaker 8: themselves as a competitor. Yes, go out there, and you know,
Speaker 8: just like I know the trainers say when you come back,
Speaker 8: how do you feel?
Speaker 9: Okay? If you're good to go, go, And so this.
Speaker 8: Is he's young like that that that pride to ego,
Speaker 8: everything's gonna getting away.
Speaker 9: As soon as you feel good.
Speaker 8: You got to remember, like this is a high power
Speaker 8: game that you're playing at a high level in three
Speaker 8: games and eleven in eleven day span. Even on a
Speaker 8: healthy lin, its body is a lot. And so for
Speaker 8: you to come out these major injuries and I think
Speaker 8: we said it off air, but this is the second
Speaker 8: time he's an injury.
Speaker 9: That's saying.
Speaker 8: So it's like you have to at what point are
Speaker 8: you going to be smart enough to say pull back?
Speaker 8: So I hope they give him a pitch count, but
Speaker 8: you know, if he's feeling good, you know, let him go.
Speaker 8: But hopefully you don't need him. You got Logan coming
Speaker 8: in right now. But what do y'all think.
Speaker 7: You know, I'll be air to be on the smart
Speaker 7: side more so than anything at this point. You know,
Speaker 7: with him and Wilson in there together, I think it's
Speaker 7: been has been the thing that is turning everybody on
Speaker 7: just seeing those two side by side. So you know,
Speaker 7: hopefully I would definitely try to figure out some type
Speaker 7: of pitch count to keep you more. But at the
Speaker 7: same time, you have to be smart enough to allow
Speaker 7: him to listen to his body too as well. So
Speaker 7: with that being said, you know, he's young, and youth
Speaker 7: is on his side at this point in time. But yeah,
Speaker 7: three games in eleven days, like you said, for a
Speaker 7: healthy dude, that's that's a big toe.
Speaker 10: That's a large toe.
Speaker 4: So pitch counting open, and you're already on your short
Speaker 4: count because it was Monday night, so you're already on
Speaker 4: a short week here.
Speaker 7: And it may not be the pitch count this game.
Speaker 7: It may be a pitch you know, Like I'm looking
Speaker 7: at what we got going on. If he's out there
Speaker 7: balling and making an impact in the game, it's gonna
Speaker 7: be hard for me to rain up pulling back in,
Speaker 7: you know what I mean.
Speaker 10: So we're gonna have to see how it plays out.
Speaker 11: Yeah, you just gotta you know, like you said, yeah,
Speaker 11: him and the training staff, which they got a great
Speaker 11: staff over there, Gym and Britton, all those guys and Greg.
Speaker 11: You just got to make sure, you know, throughout the game,
Speaker 11: just every time you come out the field, how does
Speaker 11: it feel, you know, you tweaking anything, How you know
Speaker 11: your body's feeling out there? You fatigued because we all know,
Speaker 11: you know, once that fatigue start, because this is what
Speaker 11: second game back from injury, so we all know his conditioning.
Speaker 5: You're only getting.
Speaker 11: Shaped football shaped by playing football, so you know his
Speaker 11: condition is not gonna be to where it was before
Speaker 11: the injury. And we all know once you get fatigued
Speaker 11: out there, that's when you know, technique goes out and
Speaker 11: you start, you know, overcompensating on one thing, and then
Speaker 11: you know how that snowball effect happens. So if I'm him,
Speaker 11: I'm just you know, making sure keeping those trainers close
Speaker 11: when you get back to the sideline.
Speaker 2: This is how I feel, is how my body feels.
Speaker 11: And he has to be honest, like he can you know,
Speaker 11: sugarcoat things with the training staff. Oh, I feel great,
Speaker 11: Everything's amazing and bunch of quads a little tired. You know,
Speaker 11: you gotta be honest out here because you know you
Speaker 11: want to be a part of something special. You want
Speaker 11: to be a part of this comeback and all that
Speaker 11: great stuff. But you're you're a young man. You still
Speaker 11: got a lot of years God went and left in
Speaker 11: this league. So you got to make sure you're smart
Speaker 11: and communicate with the training staff and make sure they're
Speaker 11: on the same page.
Speaker 6: You already know, you already know being young, we ain't
Speaker 6: thinking like that.
Speaker 2: None of that I will give you.
Speaker 6: On the field, somebody gonna have to help him in.
Speaker 2: Kind of percent.
Speaker 5: And so you talk about the strict training staff, but
Speaker 5: what is it.
Speaker 4: Are there other guys in the room vets that can
Speaker 4: come and have that conversation with him as well.
Speaker 8: I think so, uh Clinton Williams being the leader that
Speaker 8: he is right now, like he's one of those guys
Speaker 8: logan coming over there and saying, hey, bro, like were
Speaker 8: gonna need you for is back in especially the playoff
Speaker 8: hopes are still there. It's gonna say, if you got
Speaker 8: a game that you know that you're winning, you know
Speaker 8: how it is the young guy behind you, somebody that's
Speaker 8: been preparing, they're asking for some snaps. They're doing that, Well,
Speaker 8: maybe this is a time for you to be a
Speaker 8: little selfless. Maybe it's the time for those vests to
Speaker 8: come over there and say, hey, we got this in
Speaker 8: the bag. And honestly, I'm kind of with you, ad
Speaker 8: what you said, Like, I might not pull the rings
Speaker 8: off of him in the Eagles game because this is
Speaker 8: a divisional game and you got the hot hend right now,
Speaker 8: but the next game it's like, okay, you got to
Speaker 8: be ready to play right here. And so it's gonna
Speaker 8: be a combination of everybody Overshawan being transparent with the
Speaker 8: training staff, but then also the people that have played
Speaker 8: around him, that know him before the injury and after
Speaker 8: the injury to say, hey, I see you getting a
Speaker 8: little excited. I see this and that like pull it
Speaker 8: back right there. And when you had like at least
Speaker 8: I know for guys like me, I played around Richard Sherman,
Speaker 8: Cliff Abral Mike Bennett, those guys were able to say, hey,
Speaker 8: young Buck, don't get too excited right now. Hey, tighten
Speaker 8: it back and do right there. And I respect their
Speaker 8: opinion a little bit more.
Speaker 11: Yeah, it's it's going to be tough because you know,
Speaker 11: when you want that football field between them lines. I
Speaker 11: mean you just thinking about I got this is my
Speaker 11: job communicating which your teammates are trying to get the
Speaker 11: dub and it's it's it's tough for those those vents
Speaker 11: and guys to be you know, if he's out there playing,
Speaker 11: making plays and doing this thing, it's tough to be
Speaker 11: like hey man.
Speaker 6: Yeah about yeah, so you won't right now. You just
Speaker 6: locked in like.
Speaker 2: It's tough, man, It's tough.
Speaker 4: And as far as eber Flues goes, is that something
Speaker 4: for him as a coordinator that he has to be
Speaker 4: aware of or was that the linebacker coach?
Speaker 5: I mean where you know, I'm just trying to think
Speaker 5: of all the levels.
Speaker 4: Where because ultimately you talked about to Sadie, this is
Speaker 4: a player that you're looking for for a number of years,
Speaker 4: okay number of years and you've got the games you
Speaker 4: talked about.
Speaker 5: You you've got a lot.
Speaker 4: We've got December. You've still got December coming up, three
Speaker 4: games in eleven days. Just how do you make sure
Speaker 4: you're protected because he is going to be the high
Speaker 4: energy person that you talked about here and even to
Speaker 4: see when he was like when I was talking to
Speaker 4: you know, I'm just gonna go, I'm gonna go.
Speaker 5: I get it. You love that about him. But there's
Speaker 5: got to be other people.
Speaker 11: Bruck come down a little bit, right, The training stab
Speaker 11: is gonna have to me. The main ones got to
Speaker 11: be him and the training stad. They got to be
Speaker 11: on the same accord. And then you got your your
Speaker 11: linebackers coach out there that's gonna be able to, you know,
Speaker 11: get a little bit more in depth with them. Because
Speaker 11: when you're when you're flu and you the DC, you
Speaker 11: think who I got, who I got in this package?
Speaker 5: Is he available?
Speaker 11: Like he's not really over there thinking about who's you know,
Speaker 11: he's like, who do I got this guy available for
Speaker 11: this hot package or something like that. Like so he's
Speaker 11: not really checking on the process of how each individual
Speaker 11: player is feeling at that time. So I think it
Speaker 11: gotta be with the training staff, you know, gotta be
Speaker 11: with your with your with your position coach. And then
Speaker 11: he's worried about the ex's and o's and get it
Speaker 11: out there.
Speaker 7: What are the things that I've seen and like shout
Speaker 7: out to those people in that training staff and in
Speaker 7: this building. It's like the guys who have come back
Speaker 7: off of injury and they've actually been able to come
Speaker 7: back and compete at a high level.
Speaker 2: The ones that did rehab with them, what you're.
Speaker 6: Talking about, I'm just I'm like he said, all I'm here.
Speaker 8: Are two guys that came off major knee injuries that
Speaker 8: we've seen.
Speaker 2: We're here.
Speaker 8: They were here during the off season, but not even
Speaker 8: that taking the stuff further at the end of the game,
Speaker 8: when you've seen them paying in it. Everybody you've seen shoddy, well,
Speaker 8: guess what you're seeing. You've seen rebel right there, and
Speaker 8: you've seen Brent sitting there. I know what that tapped me.
Speaker 17: You do good?
Speaker 9: I was a feeling this and that.
Speaker 10: So you guys know being hurt.
Speaker 7: You know when when you're when you're injured and you
Speaker 7: feel like you're not part of the team. You and
Speaker 7: that you and that training staff for you and those
Speaker 7: rehab people, y'all get real close your teammates. And so
Speaker 7: for those guys to be able to come back and
Speaker 7: play and like not having the hiccups, like I said,
Speaker 7: like all that faith they put in them, dudes, that
Speaker 7: relationship in that bard even got that much tighter. You
Speaker 7: know like I trust you and so hopefully, you know,
Speaker 7: like people will see like, hey, you don't have to
Speaker 7: you don't have to leave here to get healthy, Like
Speaker 7: this is a good building.
Speaker 4: So Ibraflus Finzer coordinator was asked about the rookie Schon
Speaker 4: novel from East Carolina. He said, quote, he's great. He's
Speaker 4: he's a big, tall, strong guy. I love his stop
Speaker 4: and start. He really can stop those transition routes. He's
Speaker 4: got really good length. He's no he says, uh, he's
Speaker 4: a no house guest cover. He tackles. He's a good tackler.
Speaker 4: I'm excited about where he's going. So I know some
Speaker 4: people want to hear this, but you know, twenty twenty
Speaker 4: six they might have.
Speaker 2: You know, yeah, I had a little something.
Speaker 11: He actually will get impressed and put hands on you
Speaker 11: like that's That's the one thing I've seen from from Revel.
Speaker 11: I'm like, he's impressed. He's not doing all his back
Speaker 11: pedaling and mirroring with the feet. He getting hands on casts.
Speaker 11: He's physical. Now that's what you love to see out
Speaker 11: there with him. Go use your length, use it man.
Speaker 8: So he's playing like how these other dvs thought they
Speaker 8: could play when they went up there, somebody and got
Speaker 8: spun around.
Speaker 4: On Carson played Carson had had good snack, Bell came
Speaker 4: in here, blands out there.
Speaker 5: At some point in time, if you can get digs back.
Speaker 4: As you're as you're as you're going down this stretch here,
Speaker 4: you're gonna have You're gonna have to face the lions.
Speaker 4: Chargers have some good receivers, so if you can start
Speaker 4: to get healthy, they can make it interesting in the end.
Speaker 4: But at this point in time, in my mind, I'm like,
Speaker 4: you know, in twenty six, they should have something, Yeah,
Speaker 4: they should they should have something. We'll see what happens
Speaker 4: with George Pickens in his country and with Brandon Aubrey
Speaker 4: in his contract the.
Speaker 5: Franchise, Dad, you only franchise one of them better.
Speaker 2: You think they gotta be you're talking about they're both great.
Speaker 8: Aurey man, that's a that's a conversation, that is that
Speaker 8: is man.
Speaker 2: But they both cold.
Speaker 9: But Audrey so you But that's what I say. You
Speaker 9: don't just pay Aubrey right now. He didn't have been.
Speaker 10: That's just for me.
Speaker 7: It's it's it's gonna get tough when you got that
Speaker 7: much money tied up like say, potentially between two wide
Speaker 7: receivers and your quarterback like that.
Speaker 10: That's that's that's gonna be tricky.
Speaker 5: That's a lot of bread.
Speaker 2: That's a lot of bread.
Speaker 5: It's a lot of bread. But this is just just
Speaker 5: the if part.
Speaker 4: If they finish well fighting and competing, and let's say
Speaker 4: they come up short one or two games, because you
Speaker 4: you know you're gonna those games. The tie breakers are
Speaker 4: gonna hurt you because you've lost into some NFC teams
Speaker 4: like like Carolina.
Speaker 5: Who's playing well right now.
Speaker 4: So if they don't make it and looking at potentially
Speaker 4: how they can close the show.
Speaker 5: If you're Jerry, you're eighty two years old, Yeah, what you.
Speaker 4: Waiting though, We're gonna right to check man, you know,
Speaker 4: because hey, baby, you ain't promised too many more.
Speaker 18: By the way, with the Aubrey contract, he's a restricted
Speaker 18: free agent next year, so you can put a tag
Speaker 18: on him transition to so you can put like a
Speaker 18: second round pick. So if someone signs him and you
Speaker 18: can match whatever, you.
Speaker 2: Get somebody definitely like a second round big.
Speaker 18: Yeah, you can match it so that they can offer
Speaker 18: him a contract. If you match it, you get them.
Speaker 2: And you don't think Jerry will do there.
Speaker 18: No, I'm just saying you don't have to franchise.
Speaker 4: You got so you could do a transition tag on
Speaker 4: the kicker, franchise tags pickets.
Speaker 5: Now, the moment you throw the franchise tag on, you
Speaker 5: ain't gonna see them.
Speaker 2: You think it was his agent, that's his age.
Speaker 9: But dude, we know who his agent is.
Speaker 2: But your people, No, that ain't my people.
Speaker 9: Joby left.
Speaker 8: Jobey was a founder member, but he started Vanguard Sports.
Speaker 8: He had to get up out of there. You had to.
Speaker 2: Get David Mullagat. I mean, okay, yeah, hear my friend.
Speaker 9: Here's my frat brother. He is my frat brother.
Speaker 5: Well you Slowell, No, no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 9: The viewers, everybody in the viewership.
Speaker 8: That.
Speaker 4: Boy special. Anything George said, thank you, Trey. I always
Speaker 4: appreciate these conversations, man, very chers of pastor.
Speaker 5: Look, this has been a place, lads, ron
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