1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:05,880 Speaker 1: This is up on game lights, camera action, start to 2 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:09,920 Speaker 1: show me about to get a here we go. You 3 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:14,159 Speaker 1: want NFL experience, then this is the show for you. 4 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:16,239 Speaker 1: It's our time with LaVar. 5 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 2: Ary, Ted, has this team been exposed? TJ. 6 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 3: Hushman, Zanna, let the players aside the game. 7 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:23,120 Speaker 1: And Plexico Burres. 8 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:25,919 Speaker 3: All I gotta say is this don't pup the bear man. 9 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 1: It's a show with three of the best to ever 10 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:32,560 Speaker 1: do it on and off the field that now live 11 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 1: from the Fox Sports Radio studios. Here's Pro Bowlers, LaVar Aaring, Ted, TJ. Hushman, 12 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:43,599 Speaker 1: Zanna and super Bowl Chippy and Plexico Burrets. 13 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:49,559 Speaker 4: All right, all right, welcome into the show. Yeah, it's 14 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 4: up one game, Happy Saturday to everybody. We got a 15 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 4: lot of things to get to Robert Kraft versus Jerry Zones. 16 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 4: We're gonna kick off the show with speaking of owners. 17 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 4: This owner heavy hour. We're going to talk up mister 18 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 4: Tish as uh. Well, I know Plexico knows who mister 19 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 4: Tish is as well, so we'll get to to Shador Sanders. 20 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 4: He got quite the honor this week. But I'm curious 21 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 4: to see what the guys have to say about that. 22 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:27,959 Speaker 4: You guys know how it all works. Before we get going, 23 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:30,679 Speaker 4: Gotta ask the fellas. Hey, man, how y'all feeling? 24 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 5: Man? 25 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 4: How's everything going? We're heading into super Bowl week? Eh, 26 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 4: it's pretty exciting, although some people don't feel like this is. 27 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 5: A big enough game. But how's everybody doing? Man? 28 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 6: You know I'm doing well? You out here where I'm at? 29 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 6: This this weather I hear is just spectacular. 30 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 3: Yeah. 31 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, So you've been on the beach all week? Man, 32 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 4: I got darker again, already dark You know what I mean? 33 00:01:57,160 --> 00:02:00,120 Speaker 3: Man? When you got the zip code. 34 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 5: Resident, we drove. I didn't walk. You know how zip code? 35 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 5: You can look out? 36 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 3: You can walk, You can walk to the beach stop. 37 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 6: I could walk. Hey, don't fool the people. LaVar literally 38 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 6: steps out of his door. He takes about fifty three 39 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 6: steps and he's at the beach. Fifty three maybe fifty seven, 40 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 6: maybe fifty seven. I wish he wished he could take eleven, 41 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 6: but it's about fifty three eleven. 42 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, man, the weather great? Man, feeling good? 43 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 5: Good? Good? What you got plex? 44 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 7: Well, well, that would be the direct opposite over here. 45 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:34,640 Speaker 7: And I left the beach last week in South Florida, 46 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 7: it's about a balmy brick ten to fifteen degrees. 47 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 5: I don't know what it is. 48 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 7: When it gets into the teams, it like all feels 49 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 7: the same, and it's just the whole East Coast is 50 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 7: just under another snowstorm one and then it's snowing down 51 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 7: at Virginia Beach and in North Carolina. It's like what 52 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 7: is going on? Enough is enough? And everything is covered about. 53 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:02,080 Speaker 7: You know out here's sept up. You can drive up 54 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 7: and down the street. But if you don't need to 55 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 7: be outside, then what the hell you're going out there for? 56 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 7: Because it is it's mad bricks son, That's all I 57 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 7: can tell you. 58 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:14,079 Speaker 4: All right, let's talk. Let's get into bricks. Let's get 59 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 4: into mad bricks fellas. All right, Now, if I said 60 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 4: to you three super Bowls, all right, acquired the team 61 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 4: in eighty nine, nineteen eighty nine, got three three Super Bowls, 62 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:28,359 Speaker 4: ninety two, ninety three, ninety five, all right, has not 63 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:32,919 Speaker 4: had one since ninety five. And then you have one 64 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 4: that has acquired a team in nineteen ninety four, and 65 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 4: it has six Super Bowl two thousand and one, three, four, fourteen, sixteen, eighteen, 66 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 4: and eleven appearances in the Super Bowl. I would be curious, 67 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 4: which one of those resumes do you think would be 68 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 4: an owner that's in. 69 00:03:57,000 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 5: The Pro Football Hall of Fame. All Right, So there 70 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 5: you go. It's a rhetorical question. It's a rhetorical question. 71 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 4: You would think that the one that has the six 72 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 4: Super Bowls eleven appearances would be in the Hall of Fame, 73 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 4: but yet he is not in the Hall of Fame 74 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:18,159 Speaker 4: and the other one is. Since twenty seventeen, I'm talking 75 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 4: about Jerry Jones of the Dallas Cowboys and Robert Kraft 76 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 4: of the New England Patriots. Now here's what I was thinking, 77 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 4: because I want to hear you guys' opinion on it, 78 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:33,159 Speaker 4: because I think this is pretty cool conversation hitting in 79 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 4: the Super Bowl week. The historical conversation surrounding Jerry Jones 80 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 4: has always been he has worked to get a Super 81 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 4: Bowl away from the team that Johnson built. Come on, 82 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 4: why am I blanking on his Jimmy Johnson? 83 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 5: And there we go. 84 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:54,279 Speaker 4: So Jimmy Johnson builds the team with the big three 85 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 4: headed monster of Troy Aikman, emmittt Smith, Michael Ervin. They 86 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 4: did have Jay Novacheck on that, they did have Larry Allen, 87 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 4: a lot of great players in fact that had played 88 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:08,600 Speaker 4: on that team, Charles Hayley, Dion Sanders, and the list 89 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:11,799 Speaker 4: goes on, Darren Woodson, who should at some point needs 90 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 4: to get into the Football Hall of Fame. And we'll 91 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 4: touch on Hall of Fame, but what we already have anyway, Okay, 92 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:23,719 Speaker 4: So Jerry Jones, the conversation has always been, before he 93 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 4: gets up out of here, checks his punches, his ticket 94 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:29,039 Speaker 4: into the afterlife. He would want to get to the 95 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 4: Super Bowl, win a super Bowl, so the stigma of 96 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:36,279 Speaker 4: building a winning team based off of what Jimmy Johnson 97 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 4: did would be put behind him. Now you look at 98 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 4: the other side of it. Robert Kraft is not in 99 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:45,480 Speaker 4: the Pro Football Hall of Fame, has had many, many 100 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 4: successful seasons, but a lot of people could put on 101 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 4: him Bill Belichick, Bill Belichick, Tom Brady. The debate has 102 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 4: always been Bill Belichick and Tom Brady, but both Bill 103 00:05:56,960 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 4: Belichick and Tom Brady have since moved on. The Patriots 104 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:05,919 Speaker 4: have struggled, just like at times the Dallas Cowboys. But 105 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 4: he brings in Mike Rabel, and in Mike Rabel's inaugural year, 106 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 4: he goes to the Super Bowl. Now Robert Kraft has 107 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 4: a Super Bowl appearance at the least with no Tom 108 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 4: Brady involved, no Bill Belichick involved, which, by the way, 109 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 4: we'll get into Bill Belichick too. How do you guys 110 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 4: see this? How how are you looking at this like? 111 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 4: Because to me, I look at it and I say, 112 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 4: if if you can't look at Robert Kraft and say, 113 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 4: the Hall of Fame conversation has to be put to 114 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 4: bid at this point for Robert Kraft, he should go 115 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:49,280 Speaker 4: into the Hall of Fame as a contributor next year. 116 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 4: If you're asking me, he should be on the ballot 117 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 4: and he should go in. And then as far as 118 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 4: Jerry Jones, how does this make you look at like? 119 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 4: When you put the contrast of the two owners together, 120 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 4: One is a GM, one has made it a family 121 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:07,160 Speaker 4: situation and has yet to have any type of success 122 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 4: since really kind of being you know, bucking against the 123 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 4: whole head to head deal with Jimmy Johnson and has 124 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 4: yet to go to a Super Bowl since ninety five? 125 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 4: How do you guys feel about that? 126 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 6: I mean, at the end of the day, this has 127 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 6: been discussed obviously a lot this week, considering what happened 128 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 6: Bill Belichick. The Hall of Fame process Number one needs 129 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 6: to be completely dismantled, a lot of soul searching. Make 130 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 6: real the voters, I don't care that Robert Kraft just 131 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 6: so happened to hire Bill Belichick and they drafted Tom Brady. 132 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 6: WHOA isn't that what great people do? You hire people 133 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 6: that can do a great job to make you look good. 134 00:07:56,480 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 6: He should have been in a long time Agobert should 135 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 6: have been a long time ago. That is, his job 136 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:07,239 Speaker 6: is to hire a great coach and put great players 137 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:10,239 Speaker 6: on your team so you can have success. Why should 138 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 6: he be faulted for oh you Bill Belichick and Tom Brady? Well, 139 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 6: he don't want hired him. He didn't want hired him. 140 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 3: Isn't that his job? 141 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 6: And so what he has done has warranted a spot 142 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 6: in the Hall of Fame years ago, decade ago, why 143 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 6: wouldn't he be in? And to me, the voters, I 144 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:37,319 Speaker 6: have no idea why the whole process needs to be overhauled. 145 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 6: It should get some people in there that's gonna vote 146 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 6: without feelings, that's just gonna do it off merit and 147 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 6: what you've accomplished, Like, what are we doing here? What 148 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 6: are we doing? Robert Kraft deserves it. The New England 149 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 6: Patriots were a dynasty twice. They're back in the super Bowl. 150 00:08:56,920 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 6: Like you just said, you just spoken at a different 151 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 6: coach and a different quarterback. Robber Kraft gets no credit 152 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 6: for that, Like, what are we doing? He moved off 153 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 6: draw Mayo and everybody, Why are you doing it? It's 154 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 6: just one year. Oh, they're back in the super Bowl. 155 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 6: So the move that he made, although was questioned, they're 156 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 6: back in the super Bowl. So now there's no longer 157 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:25,959 Speaker 6: a question of why I made the move. This is why? 158 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:27,719 Speaker 6: This is this the answer to the question of this 159 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 6: is why. And so the process I believe needs to 160 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 6: be overhauled. They need to get some people on that 161 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:36,560 Speaker 6: are voting, and and I get it. All the voters 162 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:40,080 Speaker 6: do it is you don't get paid for it. But 163 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:41,680 Speaker 6: they must like it because they're doing it for free. 164 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:43,839 Speaker 3: They must. They don't like it, they love it. They 165 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:44,560 Speaker 3: can give it to me. 166 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 5: I'll take one of their I'll take their votes. 167 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 3: I'm right with you right there, I'll go with you. 168 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 3: I'm right with you. 169 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 6: And to me, for the life of me, I don't 170 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 6: understand why my philosophy hasn't been adopted. It's very simple. 171 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 6: If you weren't top five at your position for five years. 172 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:08,960 Speaker 6: You are not a Hall of Famer. If you have 173 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 6: to think about it, you are not a Hall of Famer. 174 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 6: If it's like you are not a Hall of Famer. 175 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 6: It's the best of the best. Keep it that way. 176 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 6: Put the people in that deserve it and the guys 177 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 6: that are Sorry, there's not a hall of very good. 178 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 3: But we know who you were. It's just you won't 179 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 3: be in a Hall of Fame. 180 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 7: Yeah, Man, it's based off everything that y'all just said. Man, 181 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 7: I think we all know that Robert Kraft and Bill 182 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 7: Belichick are deserving of being Hall of Famers. I mean, 183 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:43,559 Speaker 7: there's no doubt about that. But just like TJ said, man, 184 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 7: it's all personal it. It really just doesn't make any sense 185 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 7: with the you know, the resume that these guys have 186 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 7: put together, you know, over the last two decades, and 187 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 7: how can you not say that these guys are not 188 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 7: the best at the best. And but for this particularly year, 189 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 7: I think it really has more to do with Mike 190 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 7: Rabel than than Robert Kraft. I mean, I think it's 191 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:08,200 Speaker 7: a great hire. He kind of you know, went back 192 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 7: to you know, to the early two thousands, and Mike 193 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:14,559 Speaker 7: Brable was a part of that dynasty that they had 194 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 7: and knowing that he would hire great coaches around him. 195 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 7: You know, one thing I noticed about the New England 196 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 7: Patrier is that nobody ever talks about the general you 197 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:27,319 Speaker 7: know this man. Nobody talks about the general manager. They 198 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 7: just talk about the Yeah, they never talk about Elliot Wolf. 199 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:38,439 Speaker 7: It's just it's been Bill Belichick and Robert Kraft. Nobody 200 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 7: talks about the general manager who was bringing in all 201 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 7: these all of these great talent. And they have developed 202 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 7: guys over the years. I mean, you can see, you 203 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 7: can be honest that I mean how many they've had. 204 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 7: I would say Vince Woolfolk, Uh Ty Law was was 205 00:11:57,120 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 7: really good. Uh, Richard Seymour, but they really haven't had 206 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:08,319 Speaker 7: any stellar, you know, uh great players throughout the last 207 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:11,560 Speaker 7: two decades. Defensively and for somehow they've been able to, 208 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:13,679 Speaker 7: you know, win outside of the years that Tom Brady 209 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:17,079 Speaker 7: wasn't there. But nobody ever talks about the general manager. 210 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:21,439 Speaker 7: And it's just it's mind boggling that they just talk 211 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 7: about Bill Belichick, Robert Kraft. And you know, obviously these 212 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:28,440 Speaker 7: guys are not getting into the Hall of Fame this week, 213 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:31,200 Speaker 7: and we know they deserve it. And it kind of 214 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 7: takes me back to Derek Jeter. Derek Jeter goat what 215 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 7: goes into the Hall of Fame and he's one vote 216 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 7: shy of being a unanimous Hall of Famer. 217 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 3: How can you. 218 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:48,440 Speaker 7: Not get who was that one person that that did 219 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:53,679 Speaker 7: not vote for Derek Jeter to be naams? They are 220 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 7: Boston Celtics, I mean Boston Red Sox guy, That's who 221 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 7: it was us and it was personal for him to 222 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:05,440 Speaker 7: not go into the Hall of Fame. But being a 223 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 7: unanimous vote and the only one has been Marianna Rivero, 224 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 7: But those guys are deserving man, first balllet hall of Fame, 225 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 7: even though I had you know, I've played against these 226 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 7: I played against those guys. 227 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:16,560 Speaker 5: That's definitely the point. 228 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 4: That's the point, plex is that people have a problem, 229 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 4: Oh the flake Gate. They're cheaters, cheat cheat, cheat, cheating, 230 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 4: That's what it is. That's what everybody is going to 231 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:31,560 Speaker 4: use as their justification for Robert Kraft not going into 232 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 4: the Hall of Fame and Bill Belichick not going into 233 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 4: the Hall of Fame. That's what's going to be used. 234 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, man, that's it, That's all I had. 235 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:45,439 Speaker 5: I mean, it's a great point. 236 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:49,599 Speaker 4: What you're making is there there are basically personal agendas 237 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 4: that are attached and connected to the reasons why someone 238 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 4: like Bill Belichick wouldn't be. 239 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 5: A first ballot Hall of Famer. 240 00:13:56,960 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 3: I mean, that has to be the only argument. 241 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:02,079 Speaker 6: Christ they mad? Are they mad? Because when you ask 242 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 6: Bill a question or on a Cincinnati that too got 243 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 6: the jet get out your feelings, man. And again I'm 244 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 6: not I didn't like the way Bill Belichick acted. I 245 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 6: don't even I met Bill Belichick a few times. I 246 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 6: don't even know I'm like that. But how are you 247 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 6: gonna deny a man that did what he did? How 248 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 6: can you deny that man? 249 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 3: Can? 250 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 6: How can you deny it? And because of this, because 251 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 6: of this, all rules will now be broken. Bill, I'm 252 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 6: making an executive decision. You are now in the Hall 253 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 6: of Fame. I'm all you voters, That's what I'm doing, 254 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 6: all you voters. Your votu are now gone. Well, we're 255 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 6: just gonna get it, like, get out your personal feelings. 256 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 6: Like these people now they're in a position of power, 257 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 6: So now they flexing it. Now they flexing the power 258 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 6: that they have over Bill because of the way he 259 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 6: treated them. Oh he cheated, Okay, wasn't a lot of 260 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 6: people cheating. He just cheating better than you did. 261 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 4: Hey, you had some kind of hard right there, though, Bruh. Hey, 262 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 4: could you imagine with all the personal equity that's out there, 263 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 4: the family offices that are out there, the power and 264 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 4: influence and connections that these Hall of famers have, get 265 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 4: get private money and all the Hall of famers, create 266 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 4: your own hall of Fame, and y'all start voting for 267 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 4: the guys that come in to the Hall of Fame. 268 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 4: Let the players do the voting on create the have 269 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 4: the players create a committee however it is they want 270 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 4: to come together. And it would be hard with the players, though, LeVar, 271 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:36,400 Speaker 4: because when you got players that are in the Hall 272 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 4: of Fame, they have friends that they feel should be 273 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 4: in the Hall of Fame. 274 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 3: And some of these friends should not be in. Mmm. 275 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 6: Some of these friends should not be in. But because 276 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 6: they friends and they're the hall, are very good. They 277 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 6: It needs to be people that are unbiased and you 278 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 6: can make tough decisions like this is. 279 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 4: It's obviously not unbiased. It's almost it's impossible for it 280 00:15:58,160 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 4: to be. 281 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 6: Yes, I agree, free, You're you're right, You're right about that, right. 282 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 7: It's all by its it's conflict of interest all across 283 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 7: the board, from players to the coaches what they deserve 284 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 7: just based off of personal emotions and feelings of what 285 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 7: a voter may think about somebody. And that's the men 286 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 7: part about it. 287 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 4: There are people in the Hall of Fame that have 288 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 4: less Pro Bowls and and all Pro bids than I do. 289 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 4: And I don't look at myself, not at all as 290 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 4: as a Hall of Famer. 291 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 5: I don't see. 292 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 6: Nobody should ever ever now today the last be Pro Bowls. 293 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 3: It should be all pros. 294 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 6: Now, the Pro Bowl has to. 295 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 5: Be a pro now. 296 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, ever, yes, all right, let's take a quick break 297 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 4: because we're going to get into that at uh at 298 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 4: some point somebody UH made the Hall, made the Pro 299 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 4: Bowl and then created a conversation. I'm sure you'll know 300 00:16:56,360 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 4: the conversation, but we're going to touch on it. You're 301 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 4: listening up on. We're gonna take a quick break. On 302 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 4: the other side of the break, we did talk Belichick 303 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:07,919 Speaker 4: getting snub for the Hall of Fame, but it seems 304 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:11,200 Speaker 4: as though we touched on that a little bit on 305 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:16,199 Speaker 4: this segment. So just stay stay tuned because you know 306 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 4: there's a guy that's making a bit for all Pro 307 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 4: and being considered to be a really good pro after 308 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:27,439 Speaker 4: having to resurrect their career from a slow start. 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We got some NBA news, obviously, 351 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 4: I loo Isaac Loh and kron broke that on Paul 352 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:37,199 Speaker 4: George testing positive. We'll touch on that, and we got 353 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 4: cuffs coming on in an hour two. But right now, let's 354 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:44,120 Speaker 4: keep it football, and let's keep it super Bowl. I mean, 355 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 4: we got a quarterback that obviously is playing in this 356 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 4: Super Bowl sixty and improbable odds fellas very improbable. 357 00:19:56,240 --> 00:20:00,040 Speaker 5: Mister Sam Darnold. He's going to be playing, and he 358 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:00,920 Speaker 5: he was closed. 359 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:02,359 Speaker 4: I mean, he had a really good year with the 360 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 4: Vikings last year, and as we know, the Seahawks and 361 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 4: the Vikings went in two different directions this year, the 362 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 4: Vikings obviously. 363 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 5: Only winning nine games. 364 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:15,920 Speaker 4: Wow, you had the Seattle Seahawks preparing to play the 365 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 4: New England Patriots in the Super Bowl. 366 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:21,400 Speaker 5: The one thing they do have in common is. 367 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:24,880 Speaker 4: That last year they were close. They had Sam Donald. 368 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:27,679 Speaker 4: The Seahawks are in it, they're close to a Super Bowl, 369 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:31,680 Speaker 4: they have Sam Donald. Well you would think, well, aren't 370 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 4: the Vikings feeling a certain type of way? Well, yeah 371 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:38,400 Speaker 4: they are. And here's what their GM had to say about. 372 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 4: I guess what went into losing Sam Donald last year. 373 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:46,879 Speaker 9: There's those nights that you wake up and start the 374 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:49,679 Speaker 9: ceiling and ask yourself, But I always go back to 375 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 9: the process and what we thought at the time. It's 376 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 9: easier to kind of go and be revisionists and results base, 377 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:57,719 Speaker 9: but going to really think through what we had at 378 00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:01,440 Speaker 9: the time, I still understand why we did what we did. 379 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:04,360 Speaker 9: The results maybe didn't play out the way we did 380 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 9: we wanted them to, but you know, ultimately I think 381 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:10,159 Speaker 9: at the end of the day that we could have 382 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:12,719 Speaker 9: executed better in certain places. I always go back to 383 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 9: the process and what we thought at the time. It's 384 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:18,920 Speaker 9: easier to kind of go and be revisionous and results based, 385 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 9: but going to really think through what we had at 386 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:25,359 Speaker 9: the time, I still understand why we did what we did. 387 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 9: The results maybe didn't play out the way we did 388 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 9: we wanted them to, but you know, ultimately, I think 389 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 9: at the end of the day that we could have 390 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 9: executed better in certain places. And I don't want to 391 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:40,119 Speaker 9: say the individually in terms of particular player, but just 392 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:43,959 Speaker 9: execute and better knowing what the room was, play style wise, 393 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:46,639 Speaker 9: experience wise, and just kind of really put together a 394 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:50,479 Speaker 9: better combination of people collective in that group. That's kind 395 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:52,119 Speaker 9: of the thing I've probably focused on the most. 396 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 4: That's GM Vikings, GM Quasi Adolfo Mensa. 397 00:21:58,440 --> 00:21:59,920 Speaker 5: I mean, it's very introspective. 398 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 4: I thought it was fair fellas his assessment of how 399 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 4: he went about it. But nonetheless it's a miss. It's 400 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:13,119 Speaker 4: a tremendous miss. The Vikings took a tremendous step back 401 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:17,879 Speaker 4: this year from what they were now. Listen, Donald, he 402 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:21,480 Speaker 4: ended slow. It was a slow ending or what we'll say, 403 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:24,359 Speaker 4: a quick ending at the end of last year for 404 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 4: the Vikings. But nonetheless he goes to the Seahawks and 405 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:31,880 Speaker 4: they're now playing in the Super Bowl. How y'all feel 406 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:33,879 Speaker 4: about it? Man, what's your take on it? Was this 407 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 4: a big miss, buy swing and miss by the Vikings 408 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:39,360 Speaker 4: trying to go with JJ McCarthy. Was this a big 409 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 4: swing and a win for the Seattle Seahawks or is 410 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:45,400 Speaker 4: there something more to it with the Seahawks? And maybe 411 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 4: there's much to do about Sam Darnold per se on 412 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 4: a personal level in terms of his impact of the 413 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:56,479 Speaker 4: teams that he's just played for. Man, obviously love art. 414 00:22:56,760 --> 00:23:00,639 Speaker 6: When you draft a quarterback in the first roun. They 415 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 6: drafted J. J. McCarthy in the top ten. They traded 416 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:07,359 Speaker 6: up to get him. By the way, you almost have 417 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:10,200 Speaker 6: to play them. You almost have to play them. You 418 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 6: can't re sign Sam Donald. Was it a mistake, Absolutely, 419 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 6: it was a mistake. Absolutely. You didn't make the playoffs. 420 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:22,480 Speaker 6: He's playing in a super Bowl. You were one of 421 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 6: the better teams in the league last year. You one 422 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 6: of the worst teams in the league this year, not 423 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 6: one of the worst, but you didn't make the playoffs. 424 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 6: And your quarterback play is the big reason. Because defensively, 425 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:38,439 Speaker 6: very stout, top five. Offensively, you had a weapons. What 426 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 6: held you back? What was the quarterback play? And so 427 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 6: when you let Sam Donald walk. And Sam Donald when 428 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 6: he signed with Seattle, it wasn't even like they paid 429 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 6: him great money for the quarterback position. Believe it was 430 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:58,440 Speaker 6: three years, one hundred million. That's a bargain for a quarterback, 431 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 6: a starting quarterback in the league. And so there's just 432 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:05,720 Speaker 6: consequences when you make bad decisions. When you make bad decisions, 433 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:09,920 Speaker 6: sometimes you face the consequence and sometimes you don't. They 434 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 6: made a bad decision to let Sam Donald walk. And 435 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 6: I've been one that's been in Sam Donald's corner the 436 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:21,679 Speaker 6: entirety of his career, and it's kind of you know, 437 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 6: you can smile if you want. Of those guys like 438 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:26,880 Speaker 6: like I am that it was just a matter of time. 439 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:28,920 Speaker 6: You get put in the right situation. You go to 440 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:35,360 Speaker 6: the Jets, obviously dysfunctional as dysfunction can be. Then when 441 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 6: he gets to the Panthers, you started to see, like 442 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 6: I believe he went foreign two with the Panthers, that 443 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:48,119 Speaker 6: right there should have showed everyone, hey, it's not Sam Donald. 444 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:51,440 Speaker 6: It was the environment that he was in in New York. 445 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 6: Then when he leaves Carolina, he starts one game with 446 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 6: the Niners I believe, goes one to zero, and then 447 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 6: he goes to me Minnesota and then it's like wow, 448 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 6: and so the Vikings made a mistake. 449 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 3: You can't change it. Now. 450 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:11,440 Speaker 6: I don't know if JJ McCarthy is the quarterback of 451 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:16,680 Speaker 6: the future. And it seems as if Kevin O'Connell didn't 452 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:18,440 Speaker 6: want to let Sam Donald go. That that's how look 453 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:20,400 Speaker 6: at it, because it seemed like him and the GM 454 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 6: were tied at the hip. He didn't want to let 455 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:25,159 Speaker 6: Sam Donald go. He didn't care about to win. Coaches 456 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:27,439 Speaker 6: want to win now. They want to win now. It 457 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:31,199 Speaker 6: ain't like Sam Donald is thirty five. Sam Donald is 458 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 6: still young, So we can sign this young quarterback. And 459 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:37,159 Speaker 6: if JJ McCarthy ends up being that guy. We have 460 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:40,159 Speaker 6: a great problem on our hand, but you went with 461 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 6: an unknown instead of the known, and this is what happens. 462 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:47,439 Speaker 7: You know what the bad decision that Quizy made was 463 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:51,399 Speaker 7: drafting JJ McCarthy because I've sat here with y'all guys 464 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 7: when he was drafted and you know, me being a 465 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:56,960 Speaker 7: little biased by him watching him playing the Big ten. 466 00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 7: He's never been a passing quarterback. They leaned on him, 467 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:03,160 Speaker 7: you know, he would throw the ball fifteen to eighteen 468 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 7: eighteen times a game because you had a running game 469 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:09,399 Speaker 7: in Blake corm and John Hollball hit him within the 470 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 7: running game. And I said, when they drafted him, why 471 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 7: would you trade an approven quarterback versus somebody that's undrafted 472 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 7: that hasn't even played yet. It didn't make any sense 473 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:25,679 Speaker 7: to me. So that was when everything began to crumble down. 474 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 7: When you bring in J. J. J. McCarthy and Sam Donald, 475 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:32,640 Speaker 7: you know, goes thirteen and four and now you basically 476 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:34,439 Speaker 7: have to play him because you moved up to get 477 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:37,919 Speaker 7: him in the draft, and it leaves you no choice 478 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:38,680 Speaker 7: but to play them. 479 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:39,480 Speaker 3: Be question me. 480 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:43,200 Speaker 7: I thought he did a great job while he was there. Obviously, 481 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 7: this year he went nine and eight. Two three years 482 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:49,680 Speaker 7: ago he went with thirteen and four with Kirk Cousins. 483 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:52,199 Speaker 7: So I don't think he did a bad job. But 484 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:54,680 Speaker 7: it's just you go zero to two in the playoffs 485 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:57,119 Speaker 7: and everybody starts to look at you like, you know, 486 00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:00,639 Speaker 7: you're making bad decisions. Is really not helping this organization. 487 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:04,359 Speaker 7: And it takes me back to the AJ Brown trade 488 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 7: when John Robinson traded him to Philadelphia, and then Tennessee 489 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 7: goes to Philadelphia and AJ Brown goes off for two 490 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,359 Speaker 7: hundred yards and they fired John Robinson on the sport 491 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 7: on the spot, like what the hell are you doing? 492 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 7: But you know, it's unfortunate for Quezy. I thought it 493 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:23,879 Speaker 7: was a hell of a general manager, especially with you know, 494 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 7: some of the picks that he made. They criticized him 495 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 7: bringing in they criticized him bringing in Jordanadison inclined and 496 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 7: some of those guys, and those guys ended up panning out. 497 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:34,960 Speaker 7: It's just the fact that when you don't win in 498 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,639 Speaker 7: this league, especially based off of the season that you 499 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 7: had previously, and you trade away the franchise quarterback. 500 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 3: You know, you know what I think I think that. 501 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 7: Quezy thought that with Justin Jefferson, who was the best 502 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 7: wide receiving in football him Jamal Chess. It didn't matter 503 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:54,200 Speaker 7: who was doing it because they had him and Jordanadison 504 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 7: because you have you know, ar gonna be one of 505 00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:00,639 Speaker 7: the best tanners in all the football and get away 506 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:03,680 Speaker 7: with a JJ McCarthy because I have with Jordan Addison 507 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 7: and I have a Justin Jefferson. 508 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:06,960 Speaker 3: But don't. 509 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 7: It doesn't work out that way, and he ended up 510 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:10,360 Speaker 7: getting fired because of that. 511 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 5: Mm hmm. That's that's a It's a tough one, it 512 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:15,400 Speaker 5: really is. 513 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:19,160 Speaker 4: And but you got to look at it by by 514 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:22,400 Speaker 4: results and how how things take place, and listen, could 515 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 4: JJ McCarthy have been better? Could he have done more? 516 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 4: I most likely feel like he could have should have. 517 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:34,400 Speaker 4: It'll be interesting to see how things pan out and 518 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 4: play out for the Vikings moving forward. But let's go 519 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 4: back to Donald. Do you guys believe that Donald is 520 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:48,040 Speaker 4: a catalyst for this Seattle Seahawks team? Go on, you know, 521 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 4: I'm a defender. So the first thing I'm gonna say 522 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:52,720 Speaker 4: to you is, I don't think people should get carried 523 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:57,240 Speaker 4: away about Sam Donald and what Sam Donald has has 524 00:28:57,280 --> 00:29:00,200 Speaker 4: been to this Seahawks team. He has been a part 525 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:03,240 Speaker 4: of righting the ship. I mean, he's he's not done 526 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:06,520 Speaker 4: anything obviously that's going to that has kept them from 527 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 4: making it to the super Bowl. But the defense is amazing. 528 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 4: I know they lost Charbonnaye is that his name Scharbonaye. 529 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:14,960 Speaker 5: The running back. 530 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 4: I know they lost town, but they were able to 531 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 4: to get pretty far. 532 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:21,960 Speaker 5: They're in the super Bowl. 533 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:26,120 Speaker 4: What does this game mean for Sam Darnold. I mean 534 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 4: he could go down in history. I brought up Trent Dilfer, 535 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:30,480 Speaker 4: I brought up mcna. 536 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 5: Is he better? 537 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:34,960 Speaker 2: Is he a better quarterback than these guys? 538 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:35,120 Speaker 3: Like? 539 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:41,080 Speaker 6: Okay, y'all got it. I'm gonna go with the defense. 540 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:43,520 Speaker 6: I was always watching the defense. Did you just watch 541 00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:46,080 Speaker 6: the game this last last week? 542 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:46,400 Speaker 3: I did? 543 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:54,280 Speaker 6: I did didn do that in the playoffs? Come on, man, 544 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 6: I was there, But what are we doing? You was 545 00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 6: there in THEFC he wasn't doing that. 546 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:08,240 Speaker 4: All I'm asking is how big implications are is this 547 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:10,160 Speaker 4: game for Sam Darnold? 548 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 5: Does he need to win this game or or has 549 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:13,240 Speaker 5: he already solidified him? 550 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:15,960 Speaker 7: So let me just say this, for Sam Donald to 551 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 7: even get to this point in his career, based off 552 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:23,960 Speaker 7: of every everywhere that he's been, he hasn't won, and 553 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,320 Speaker 7: everybody had wrote the man off, saying that he was 554 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:28,720 Speaker 7: a bus He went to the Jets, didn't work out, 555 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 7: goals to San Francisco. Obviously, the whole Brock party thing happens. 556 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:35,960 Speaker 7: You go to the Carolina Panthers, you don't win. You're 557 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:39,480 Speaker 7: the Jets and you don't win. Man, this man has 558 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:45,120 Speaker 7: pretty much reinvented his himself his career, and how could 559 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:48,280 Speaker 7: you not pull for him and be happy. He's basically 560 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 7: a journey man who was drafted number one overall. No, 561 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:56,480 Speaker 7: he was number he was three Baker one Yeah, number three, 562 00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 7: uh in the NFL draft, and now he's on a 563 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:02,080 Speaker 7: customer winning the World Championship. But you're sitting here asking 564 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,840 Speaker 7: does he is he a better quarterback than Trenton dilferl 565 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:06,480 Speaker 7: Come on, man, I. 566 00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:09,680 Speaker 3: Never have y'all met Sam Darnold. I've never met a 567 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:14,120 Speaker 3: met Sam is so cool bro he hella cool hellico 568 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:16,760 Speaker 3: No no, no, no no no. 569 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:18,880 Speaker 6: What I'm saying is, as a person, if you met it, 570 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 6: you'd root for him because it's a cool dude. 571 00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:24,160 Speaker 3: He's just he's just a cool dude. 572 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:27,960 Speaker 7: And so does he have to win this game, or 573 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:29,480 Speaker 7: does he not have to win it. I don't believe 574 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:30,840 Speaker 7: he has to win it, but he will. I don't 575 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:31,520 Speaker 7: believe he has. 576 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:34,440 Speaker 6: Just the fact that he got here, I believe he 577 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 6: has a great chance of winning it. It will just 578 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:41,360 Speaker 6: solidify and it will just start the show. Now, are 579 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 6: these players really quote unquote bus or the situation they 580 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:46,520 Speaker 6: in busted? 581 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:48,720 Speaker 5: That should have always been the question. 582 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 4: All right, let's get an update from Isaac Low and 583 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:53,720 Speaker 4: cron uh, because there is a lot going on in sports. 584 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:55,760 Speaker 5: Man, Man, you had some breaking news. What you got out? 585 00:31:56,120 --> 00:32:00,920 Speaker 10: Indeed, LeVar the NBA today's suspending Philadelphia seventy sixers forward 586 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:05,840 Speaker 10: Paul George twenty five games for violating the anti drug policy. 587 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 10: George said in a statement that he took an improper 588 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:11,440 Speaker 10: medication while being treated for a mental health issue in 589 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:13,040 Speaker 10: the NFL New York Giants. 590 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:17,000 Speaker 3: Child I'm sorry, mental health issue. 591 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:18,880 Speaker 10: That's what that That's what he said in a statement. Yep, 592 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:22,080 Speaker 10: that's what Paul George said after the NBA suspended him 593 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:24,640 Speaker 10: in the NFL New York Giants Chairman of the board 594 00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:28,040 Speaker 10: and executive vice president Steve Tish released a statement late 595 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:31,600 Speaker 10: last night after emails released by the Department of Justice. 596 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:35,880 Speaker 10: Friday showed that convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein connected multiple 597 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:39,760 Speaker 10: women with Tish back in twenty thirteen. The statement read quote, 598 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:43,320 Speaker 10: we had a brief association where we exchanged emails about 599 00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:48,880 Speaker 10: adult women, and in addition, we discussed movies, philanthropy, and investments. 600 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,000 Speaker 10: I did not take him up on any of his 601 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:54,320 Speaker 10: invitations and never went to his island. As we all 602 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:56,880 Speaker 10: know now, he was a terrible person and someone I 603 00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:01,240 Speaker 10: deeply regret associating with. Unquote. Flow Bills are hiring Denver 604 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:04,720 Speaker 10: Broncos defensive passing game coach Jim Leonard as their new 605 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:10,520 Speaker 10: defensive coordinator. And finally, that's right, popular choices. I, as 606 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:12,920 Speaker 10: I understand it, he was a candidate for the Chargers 607 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:13,720 Speaker 10: defensive coordinator. 608 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:15,640 Speaker 5: I love Jimmy Man, I love Jimmy Lino. 609 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:18,400 Speaker 10: Yeah, I'm telling you a good reputation. Finally, in tennis, 610 00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:25,280 Speaker 10: Elenna rebiking A defeated Arena Sabolenca. Today Elena biking. 611 00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:28,040 Speaker 5: A nice okay. We biking a okay. 612 00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:30,840 Speaker 10: All the way to a Grand Slam championship. 613 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:31,120 Speaker 5: Baby. 614 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:35,440 Speaker 10: She beat Arena Sabolenka in three sets to win the 615 00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:39,240 Speaker 10: Australian open today, guys, all yours appreciate it. 616 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:40,640 Speaker 5: I Loo and listen guys. 617 00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:43,920 Speaker 4: With the iHeartRadio app, you can stream us wherever it 618 00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:46,520 Speaker 4: is you happen to be. 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Just 639 00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:51,040 Speaker 4: search Fox Sports Radio in the app, stream us Live, 640 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:54,279 Speaker 4: leave us your input, and make sure you hit the 641 00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:58,319 Speaker 4: preset so that every single time it'll pop up at 642 00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:00,600 Speaker 4: the top of your screen. Fellas, before we get out 643 00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:03,400 Speaker 4: of this hour, the Pro Bowl has been announced. The 644 00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:06,440 Speaker 4: Pro Bowl is going to take place, and as a 645 00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:10,919 Speaker 4: replacement in the Pro Bowl this year, Shador Sanders makes 646 00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:16,280 Speaker 4: it in as a quarterback alternate. How do you guys feel? 647 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:19,200 Speaker 4: How did this hit you? Listen? We all love Prime, 648 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:23,040 Speaker 4: we all love his family, but I mean, at some 649 00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,799 Speaker 4: point as much love as I have for them in 650 00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:28,640 Speaker 4: the family, and he played in our eighth grade All 651 00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:32,000 Speaker 4: Star game, the All Stars Bowl. But at some point 652 00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:34,919 Speaker 4: enough is enough. I just what do you guys think? 653 00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:36,640 Speaker 4: I'm gonna turn it over to y'all because it's not 654 00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:38,439 Speaker 4: a long segment. What do y'all think? 655 00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:43,560 Speaker 6: I mean, everybody knows this day and age, and it's 656 00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:46,279 Speaker 6: not just this year. The Pro Bowl is water down 657 00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:49,560 Speaker 6: the player. If once they moved it from Hawaii, it 658 00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:50,880 Speaker 6: became a water down. 659 00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:52,600 Speaker 3: Honor. 660 00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:56,600 Speaker 6: Nobody cared about going to the Pro Bowl if it 661 00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:59,600 Speaker 6: wasn't in Hawaii. I mean, Joe Flacco just made his 662 00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,160 Speaker 6: first Pro bo. I don't know if y'all know that either. 663 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:05,800 Speaker 6: Joe Flacco he started what six games? Was it six games? 664 00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:06,640 Speaker 6: Correct me if I'm wrong? 665 00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:10,040 Speaker 7: No, No, he started thirteen games. And oh well, well, 666 00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:13,560 Speaker 7: well I'm just talking to Bengals. Okay, you're correct. Yes, 667 00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:18,200 Speaker 7: Joe Flacco made the pro bo. Joe Flacco made the 668 00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:21,319 Speaker 7: pro bo and. 669 00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,000 Speaker 6: The first Birds did it, by the way, never in 670 00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:27,040 Speaker 6: his career. That shocked me, And so the pro bo 671 00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:30,640 Speaker 6: is watered down. They should no longer once the Pro 672 00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:33,719 Speaker 6: bow moved from Hawaii. It should never be about this 673 00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:36,640 Speaker 6: guy is a blah blah blah pro bowler. It should 674 00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:42,200 Speaker 6: be all pros moving forward, all pros because in this 675 00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:44,000 Speaker 6: day and age, Plexico would have been a ten time 676 00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:46,040 Speaker 6: Pro bowler, which he probably should have been at least 677 00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:47,879 Speaker 6: a four to five and back then. 678 00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:52,120 Speaker 3: And so I just I don't get it. 679 00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:54,440 Speaker 6: But the guys don't want to go to San Francisco 680 00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:56,799 Speaker 6: where the Super Bowl is for the Pro Bow. It 681 00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:59,440 Speaker 6: was a badge of honor, you know, to go to 682 00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:01,919 Speaker 6: the super Bowl and then the Pro Bowl was after 683 00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:05,000 Speaker 6: because then the guys that would win you kind of 684 00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:06,279 Speaker 6: congratulate them in things. 685 00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:09,040 Speaker 3: That's how it was when we were playing. And so. 686 00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:12,759 Speaker 6: The only way that they can get the allure of 687 00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,960 Speaker 6: the Pro Bowl being a Pro Bowl is to take 688 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:19,319 Speaker 6: it back to Hawaii, because nobody's pulling out. Everybody wants 689 00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:21,920 Speaker 6: to go. The hotel you stand is for players and 690 00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:24,359 Speaker 6: players family only, So you kind of let your hair down, 691 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:26,520 Speaker 6: so to speak, and you have your fun because you're 692 00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:30,640 Speaker 6: around just the players and their families. Nobody's asking for 693 00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:37,720 Speaker 6: autographs and you're not taking pictures. It's just an exclusive group. 694 00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:41,480 Speaker 6: I just think it's lost this allure. Everybody knows it, 695 00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:44,560 Speaker 6: and the guys just don't care anymore, y'all. 696 00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:46,520 Speaker 7: I just think that the lure of the Pro Bowl, 697 00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:50,520 Speaker 7: number one should be the players that actually deserve it. 698 00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:55,120 Speaker 7: I mean, let's just start there. Joe Fleckel is planning 699 00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:59,399 Speaker 7: his first Pro Bowl eighteen seasons, and they're basically they 700 00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:03,160 Speaker 7: basically get to him or calling it like a lifetime 701 00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:05,799 Speaker 7: achievement of war, which is which is which is uh, 702 00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:10,560 Speaker 7: which is crazy. But uh but if you look at 703 00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:13,120 Speaker 7: you know, like a guy like Joe Flacco, it was 704 00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:16,400 Speaker 7: basically impossible for him to make the Pro Bowl, especially 705 00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:18,279 Speaker 7: playing in the a F So you got Peyton manning 706 00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:20,319 Speaker 7: for all those years. You got Tom Brady, you got 707 00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:23,080 Speaker 7: Philip Rivers. It's gonna be tough to beat those guys, 708 00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:25,239 Speaker 7: especially the systems that he was playing, and he was 709 00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:28,200 Speaker 7: probably he was very very very deserving for at least 710 00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:31,160 Speaker 7: one or two. But that's just that's just how the 711 00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:34,480 Speaker 7: cookie crumbles some something, you know sometimes And TJ just 712 00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:37,720 Speaker 7: going back to when we was playing, everybody was competing 713 00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:41,560 Speaker 7: to get there because it was it meant something to 714 00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:43,759 Speaker 7: be able to cross the water that I never got 715 00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:46,360 Speaker 7: the experience, but you had to be the best of 716 00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:50,000 Speaker 7: the best to get there. And I think that's the 717 00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:52,799 Speaker 7: part about it now where we're just kind of looking 718 00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:56,040 Speaker 7: at it. I'm saying, ceedee, Lamb just got added. Jalen 719 00:38:56,120 --> 00:39:00,719 Speaker 7: Hurtst got added because of you know, Sam Donalds, Sam 720 00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:02,520 Speaker 7: Donald's staff or whoever's not playing. 721 00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:05,680 Speaker 4: And that's always been how it is. Alternates are always 722 00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:06,239 Speaker 4: felt like. 723 00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:09,000 Speaker 3: First the alternate of Shadua Sandra. 724 00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:12,120 Speaker 4: Though yeah, not that, never, never that. And I would 725 00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:15,399 Speaker 4: say this, all pro aren't as many. There isn't as 726 00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:18,200 Speaker 4: many All pros as there are Pro bowlers. Announcing a 727 00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:21,479 Speaker 4: Pro Bowl team and leave it at that, don't worry 728 00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:24,799 Speaker 4: about filling it up or playing a game, anything like that. 729 00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:27,960 Speaker 4: Announce your Pro Bowlers and have your all Pro I 730 00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:30,520 Speaker 4: think that's the way you restore it back to what 731 00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:33,279 Speaker 4: it was. But that's just me talking. This is up 732 00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:36,319 Speaker 4: on game, it's TJ, it's Plexico. We got cups next 733 00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:39,240 Speaker 4: hour up on game. We'll be right back Fox Sports 734 00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:39,640 Speaker 4: Radio