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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This he's Talking Cowboys,

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Speaker 1: Star in Frisco. It's a Saturday edition of Talking Cowboys

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Speaker 1: here from Oxnard, California, and on Dallas Cowboys dot Com.

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Speaker 1: As we are one week away from the the almost

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Speaker 1: and we are less than a week away now from

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Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame game. Because we have got football

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Speaker 1: on the horizon and a busy week ahead here for

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Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys. As of course, I'm always joined by

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Speaker 1: Rob Phillips, Mickey's Bag Nola, I'm Kyle Yeoman's and busy

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Speaker 1: weekend to head for the Cowboys. No such thing as

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Speaker 1: a true off day until Monday. We had a regeneration

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Speaker 1: day yesterday, at least the players did. Still got to

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Speaker 1: hear from a couple of coordinators in some of the

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Speaker 1: front office as well throughout the latter part of this

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Speaker 1: past week. But hey, it's starting to get ato exciting times,

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Speaker 1: Rob about this Dallas Cowboys team and finally getting back

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Speaker 1: into action. How many practice. We got until the Hall

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Speaker 1: of Fame game three, three and a day off in between,

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Speaker 1: so you know, it's it's the last little hurdle for

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Speaker 1: the offense and defense to get their installs in before

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Speaker 1: that game. And you know, the last chance for not

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Speaker 1: the last chance in camp, but the last chance for

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Speaker 1: guys to kind of show out. And as dan Quinn said,

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Speaker 1: see what guys can do, See what guys have earned

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Speaker 1: in terms of snaps and roles early on here. And

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Speaker 1: you know, we expect a lot of young guys to

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Speaker 1: play in that game, but but every single rep counts,

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Speaker 1: so we'll see who steps forward today. Yeah, they should

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Speaker 1: be a good crowd. By the ways, gonna be a

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Speaker 1: lot of people out. Let me tell you how good

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Speaker 1: it is, because I rode down Ventura going north and

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Speaker 1: at seven o'clock in the morning, there were forty six

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Speaker 1: cars lined up to come in. Oh right, they were.

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Speaker 1: They block off a lane over there, and then they

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Speaker 1: the way on the way back, when it was probably

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Speaker 1: five minutes to eight, there were one hundred and twelve

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Speaker 1: cars already lined up to come in. People were like

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Speaker 1: almost tailgating for breakfast on the side of the road, right,

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Speaker 1: they're taking pictures looking at the river bottoms, you know,

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Speaker 1: doing whatever. But it was so I don't think they

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Speaker 1: let them in till like ten ten thirty, So it

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Speaker 1: They weren't gonna get left out. So and by the way,

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Speaker 1: if anybody's coming and just happens to have a VIP pass,

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Speaker 1: oh yeah, you don't have to get in the one

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Speaker 1: hundred and twelve car line. You can get in the

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Speaker 1: five car line. How about that. Wow, that'll be the

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Speaker 1: best tip you get in this next forty five minutes.

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Speaker 1: I didn't realize it was Saturday until you said that, Kuy. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I didn't and doesn't feel like it, No, But when

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Speaker 1: we see the crowd out there, you're gonna know what's Saturday?

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Speaker 1: How every day here is Tuesday? Right, pretty much pretty

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Speaker 1: much every days day or whatever. But you know what

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Speaker 1: I could tell it was Saturday because there was less

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Speaker 1: traffic on the roads. Uh. And they were setting up

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Speaker 1: you know where larcenses in that little uh the collection collection. Uh.

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Speaker 1: They were setting up a farmer's market. Oh okay, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it looks like they had some pretty good produce getting

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Speaker 1: ready to Okay, I'm be bought. I'm sure they did.

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Speaker 1: these about the fall out. I wonder how many of

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Speaker 1: the two hundred cars are listening to talking cowboys and

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Speaker 1: Yeah all right? Or the VIP tip that make just

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Speaker 1: of them. But I probably just caused a bunch of

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Speaker 1: people to try. Let's get into that VIP later. Hopefully

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Speaker 1: two hundred of those cars are listening to talking cowboys.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, we'll see. Um let's go ahead and

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Speaker 1: talk about what we heard from some of the coordinators

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Speaker 1: more so than than any other time. And Dan Quinn

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Speaker 1: they're I bet they're looking at seventy guys have a

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I think today and tomorrow will be really

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Speaker 1: Pittsburgh's gonna do. Right, So Cards, Yeah, have the bonnet

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Speaker 1: name it, name the position and I'll give you some competition.

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Speaker 1: think in our first show Rob when we got here

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Speaker 1: Sixty five that was trying to remember that number. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we heard Kellen Moore say something about, well, Joan Looney's

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Speaker 1: one quote he had about the quarterback spot backup quarterback,

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Speaker 1: he said, we liked them all, but it's it's the

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Speaker 1: same line of thinking that we've heard throughout the offseason.

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Speaker 1: if we see something that makes us better, then we're

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Speaker 1: eyes open also depending on how guys perform. Now, we

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Speaker 1: don't know how much time more time Deck's gonna miss

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Speaker 1: we don't know at this point. Definitely for this first game,

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Speaker 1: I would think so it's an opportunity for all three backups.

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Speaker 1: But look, they've added guys the first week or two

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Speaker 1: I would not rule out anything at that position going forward. Well,

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Speaker 1: So I mean, there is that possibility that your backup

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Speaker 1: like how Mick alluded to a little bit earlier. And

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Speaker 1: those backup quarterback spots have not looked impressive during their

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Speaker 1: time out in Knoxnard. There's still a long way to

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Speaker 1: we don't have the sounder because Chris Beam is not

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Speaker 1: running the show today. Williams doing a good job. Oh

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Speaker 1: maybe there is the sounder. I don't know. He just

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Speaker 1: pointed at me. We can't hear program in these heapsets,

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Speaker 1: so maybe we maybe we did have it all right.

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Speaker 1: The first one comes from Bluff City Cowboys. He said,

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Speaker 1: which undrafted free agents if any have stood out to

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Speaker 1: you guys in practices. And I'm even gonna throw this

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Speaker 1: back to last year because of the undrafted free agents

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Speaker 1: not actually having a full offseason. I want to throw

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Speaker 1: last year's undrafted free agents in this year's anybody stick

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Speaker 1: out to you? Mickey? You know pause one guy that

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Speaker 1: I was some interested in Okay. Um I forgot his

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Speaker 1: first name, Tyler Coyle safety. Unfortunately for him, the safety

468
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Speaker 1: position just got a little bit more crowded when they

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Speaker 1: brought in Malie Cooker just tad and I was thinking,

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Speaker 1: that's probably the guy that might pay the price if

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Speaker 1: they keep all those veterans safeties. He would at least

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Speaker 1: be I think a practice squad guy. Uh. And then

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Speaker 1: uh rico'dowell the the running back from last year from

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Speaker 1: last year who made the team. You but you said,

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Speaker 1: go back to last year. I think he's uh. McCarthy

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Speaker 1: talked about it that he seems more, Uh, he seems quicker,

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Speaker 1: he's in better shape. Uh. And um, you know he's

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Speaker 1: got a chance to make it as a as a

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Speaker 1: third running back. Uh. And then also going back to

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Speaker 1: uh Suo is that how you say it? Su the fullback. Um,

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what if they want shay Wu not

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Speaker 1: su Wu, well, it's kind of spelled dead way. Um.

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Speaker 1: Uh he if they need a big block back, you know,

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Speaker 1: maybe one back sometimes. You know, he's kind of getting

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Speaker 1: some reps this time. So we'll he ended up on

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Speaker 1: the practice squad last year. We'll see where that one goes.

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00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,840
Speaker 1: He borderlined being active at one point whenever Zeke was

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Speaker 1: heard and he missed the game. Sha Wu was one

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Speaker 1: of the guys that they were going to bring up

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Speaker 1: and bring onto the squad, and they protected him a

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Speaker 1: couple different times too, So I think they do feel

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Speaker 1: very highly about what Alana Lua does bring to the table.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be hard for I'm sorry, it's gonna be

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Speaker 1: hard for an undrafted guy to make this team. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I mean when you have eleven draft picks, not all

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Speaker 1: you know, not every draft pick will make this team

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Speaker 1: pop possibly so um, you know, Mickey mentioned the full

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Speaker 1: back position and Mike kind of reference maybe more two

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Speaker 1: back sets. We'll see, um Nick Ralston's a full back

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Speaker 1: in there that you know, maybe he has an opportunity

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Speaker 1: to show something in preseason because parents were here the

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Speaker 1: other day, were they wow, Bill, you'll leave it to

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Speaker 1: Bill Jones, right, that's the building him. I saw an

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Speaker 1: interview in these People and I'm going, who's that? And

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Speaker 1: then I saw the back of the Ladies the Ladies

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Speaker 1: jersey and It's had Ralston's number and his name back there.

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Speaker 1: I'm thinking in the pro shop, there's probably not a

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Speaker 1: lot of Ralston jerseys being sold. Probably said it's probably

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Speaker 1: his parents. Brandon Smith kind of jumps out of you

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Speaker 1: just just his natural ability. Um, And I know they

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Speaker 1: like him coming out. They thought he was a draftable

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Speaker 1: type of prospect. But I just don't know how you

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Speaker 1: crack this receiver corps. Yeah, think about this the way

514
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:45,600
Speaker 1: they're talking about Noah Brown. Yeah, and Cedric Wilson. So

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Speaker 1: there's five right there. Mike McCarthy said, I love Noah

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Speaker 1: one spot pretty much. Yeah, yeah there. Maybe if you

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Speaker 1: keep six. Maybe if you keep six. So the the

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Speaker 1: undrafted guy that stood out to me the most is

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Speaker 1: the guy that made the team last year, and that's

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Speaker 1: Sean mccun at tight end. And it's not it's not

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Speaker 1: just the one handed catch that he made. He had

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Speaker 1: a good year last year for them. In limited snaps,

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Speaker 1: I thought he was solid. So he might be able

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Speaker 1: to take a jump and be the be the third

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Speaker 1: tight end this year. We'll see. Well, no Blake Bell

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Speaker 1: this year. And McKuen kind of filled in that role

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Speaker 1: last year as the blocking said, almost that h back

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Speaker 1: look in the backfield, and he was used in a

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Speaker 1: lot of run packages. And like you said, even though

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Speaker 1: his limited snaps. He did a really nice job and

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Speaker 1: he stood up well. Plus he's bigger this year than

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Speaker 1: he was last year. So I think McKuen does does

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Speaker 1: make sense in that regard, and he makes it hard

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Speaker 1: for either the other rookie free agents you Banks are

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Speaker 1: Land to try to even sprinkle that. Honestly, I think

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Speaker 1: the team I think McKuen does have an advantage over

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Speaker 1: sprinkle to make the team so far. If they're gonna

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Speaker 1: take three, I mean, you've got Shultz and you got

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00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:47,960
Speaker 1: he kind of gotta keep three tight end. You gotta

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Speaker 1: have three right to rotate in. Even if you've kept

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Speaker 1: a fullback, you gotta keep three tight ends. Yeah, I

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00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 1: think you're looking at the same three as last year. Okay,

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Speaker 1: this question comes from Brennan says, how should Zeke Empollard

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Speaker 1: snaps be split up this season? I know it's early,

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Speaker 1: but he said eighty twenty Zeke or more like fifty fifty.

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Speaker 1: What do you think, Mickey, not fifty fifty, oh, closer

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Speaker 1: to No. Eighty twenty. Eighty twenty would give Zeke twenty

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Speaker 1: snaps a game and Pollard maybe ten. That's sixty six percent.

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Speaker 1: What which is sixty six twenty and ten. Yeah, but

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Speaker 1: I'm saying, okay, whatever the percentages, it ain't gonna be

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Speaker 1: fifty fifty. Zeke is still Zeke, right, and Pollard has

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Speaker 1: look one of these the you know what makes me

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Speaker 1: think of it? You know it's not the same. I

554
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Speaker 1: won't do that, get into it, say it with your

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Speaker 1: chest because because because because you know who else showed

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Speaker 1: up on Thursday for practice, Kevin Sweeney. So he was

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Speaker 1: the star of the replacement games in eighty seven, right,

558
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Speaker 1: he was the quarterback and ten x Shram was just

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00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 1: enamored with him, and they kept him on the roster.

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Speaker 1: They kept him the next year and finally Tom gave

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Speaker 1: him a start and I think he threw like five

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Speaker 1: interceptions and that was the end of that. So sometimes

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Speaker 1: what my point is, you don't Pollard's good in his role?

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Speaker 1: Now do you want to over expose him? And as

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Speaker 1: ze capable of twenty twenty five snaps a game, because

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Speaker 1: if you if you look at when he got more

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Speaker 1: opportunities save a long run or so, he was not

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Speaker 1: even that one game they had a long run and

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Speaker 1: he was averaging two yards a carry. And again, which

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00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:44,960
Speaker 1: my point is going back to the offensive line. You know,

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00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 1: they weren't very good, and Zeke was managing four yards

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Speaker 1: a carry without a long run because he had to

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00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 1: plow in there every time, and Pollard until that long

574
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 1: run that one game, was averaging two yards a carry.

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Speaker 1: So just be careful you use him in spots because

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00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 1: I think the change of pace really messes with a defense.

577
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 1: They're used to the rhythm of Zeke running the balls,

578
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 1: Zeke running the ball, and then all of a sudden,

579
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Speaker 1: you put this guy out there and you get him

580
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 1: outside and the speed surprises him. So I think the

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Speaker 1: role he has if it was twenty ten, I think

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Speaker 1: that'd be really good. When Zach Martin, I keep saying this,

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Speaker 1: when he went out on Thanksgiving, they had found something

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Speaker 1: in their run game, even with the other injuries on

585
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Speaker 1: the old line. When he went out, it really affected them.

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00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 1: And Mickey's not wrong here. I mean the Cincinnati game

587
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 1: eleven carries for thirty nine yards long of seventeen. San

588
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 1: Francisco game, twelve carries for sixty nine yards long of forty,

589
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Speaker 1: so eleven for twenty some rights for more than enough

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00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 1: of his carries nine for twelve against Philly, So I'm

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00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 1: not saying he's a bad He is explosive, and he

592
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:58,560
Speaker 1: was more explosive in a change of pace role than

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Speaker 1: Zeke was last year. Zeke all with stuff. You got

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Speaker 1: to find a place for him, and I think you

595
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 1: could maybe find a place for him as a pass

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00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 1: catcher out of the backfield, more so than they've used

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Speaker 1: him in the past, because that's what he did in college.

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Speaker 1: Somewhat um but yeah, it's gonna it's gonna be hard

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Speaker 1: to really make it a fifty fifty split. I think

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Speaker 1: Zeke is still the guy now. Mike did say he

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Speaker 1: doesn't z he doesn't have to be twenty five thirty.

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Speaker 1: A game carries a game. They want to get him

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Speaker 1: ready for December and hopefully January and February and maybe

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Speaker 1: February and the fourth quarter. That's good, that's a good point.

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Speaker 1: I keep him fresh. Uh. Sticking with the offensive side,

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Speaker 1: Jay asks some conflicting reports on Terrence Steel. Has he

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Speaker 1: been good enough to challenge for the backup tackle spot

608
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Speaker 1: or not? Yeah, based on this group, I think they're

609
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 1: all I think they're all in the same mode right now.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, because they've they've basically moved Brandon Knight into guard,

611
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Speaker 1: although he's been playing susively, right, but he yeah, exclusively,

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00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 1: but he's gone some tackle. But yeah, right now, the

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Speaker 1: three guys we mentioned earlier on the show, I think

614
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 1: it's a dead heat. And it's not a dead heat

615
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:11,440
Speaker 1: because they're fighting for first place in the finish line

616
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:15,799
Speaker 1: like a swimming meat. It's about got Katie Ledecki. How

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Speaker 1: about her eight hundred meters eight hundred meters and she's

618
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Speaker 1: pulling away at the end and everybody's touch She's like

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Speaker 1: a machine, right. Everybody's talking about, well, this could be

620
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Speaker 1: her last race. And they asked her and they go

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Speaker 1: she goes no, she goes twenty four. It's in my sights,

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Speaker 1: she's only twenty four. It's like she's not washed up. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but she's been around for so long. Pretty impressive. I

624
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Speaker 1: don't know how to transition, but I don't know how

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Speaker 1: I got to it either, But glad you're with us here.

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Speaker 1: On this edition of Talking Olympics, um Our, Buddy Kofax said,

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Speaker 1: which position group do you think the team goes heavy

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Speaker 1: on twelve dbs eleven offensive linemen or more defensive linemen?

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Speaker 1: And I know this is a tough question because, like

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Speaker 1: Stephen Joe's there's sixty five names out there that could

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Speaker 1: make this roster. They're gonna have twelve decisions to be

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Speaker 1: made pretty quickly in the next couple of weeks. If

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Speaker 1: you were in his shoes, what would you choose and

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Speaker 1: what would you go heavy on? I this is just

635
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Speaker 1: me from what I've seen so far. Say it with

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Speaker 1: your chest. I think there's more talent in depth on

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Speaker 1: the defensive line than the offensive line or even the secondary.

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00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 1: In the secondary, too, you can kind of you can

639
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:31,919
Speaker 1: kind of flex there a little bit with a couple

640
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 1: of spots because you got guys who could, you know,

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Speaker 1: play safety in a pinch like corner, so you can

642
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 1: potentially go lighter in the secondary. They kept ten dbs

643
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:45,440
Speaker 1: last year. I could see eleven, Okay, I think somebody

644
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 1: mentioned eleven. Yes, was it McCarthy did? He said eleven?

645
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:52,239
Speaker 1: He said, I could. I've seen it as high as

646
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 1: twelve or thirteen. Yeah, I could see eleven. Defensive line.

647
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:04,799
Speaker 1: They kept ten last year. They've got sixteen on the

648
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 1: roster right now. I mean, you can see if I

649
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:11,239
Speaker 1: can cut six even a Justin Hamilton, who you don't

650
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 1: think of right off the bat. Reference him yesterday, you know,

651
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:17,800
Speaker 1: and he played quite a bit last year. At times,

652
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 1: I make he's counting, and I'm also counting looking at

653
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 1: this roster. I mean I can probably easily cut four six,

654
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 1: four and then five borderline. Yeah okay. And then and

655
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 1: then it comes down to do you want to keep Gholston?

656
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 1: Do you want to keep an eye up? Well, he's

657
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:38,279
Speaker 1: got to get himself on the field. He's a third

658
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:42,279
Speaker 1: round pick. Yeah, I know, but still, uh, he better

659
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:44,840
Speaker 1: start getting on the field. And but the rest of

660
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 1: the guys, I mean, when you look at it, you know,

661
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 1: and and you know they can still do like I said,

662
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 1: put Chris pup. So that saves a spot. From what

663
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 1: I've been told, Doriance Armstrong is really playing well. And

664
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Speaker 1: that didn't come from Jerry. Wow, Okay, because last year

665
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Speaker 1: from j Jerry wanted to talk about was Door and Armstrong. Right, Uh,

666
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 1: Bashams looked good. Uh, you know the new guys Urban

667
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 1: look good. Watkins is playing with the first um so yeah,

668
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:19,400
Speaker 1: I think it's a crowded group and uh, and you

669
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:21,799
Speaker 1: know that's a good thing. And look, we got a

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Speaker 1: long ways to go before fifty three, right, A lot

671
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Speaker 1: of practices and a lot of preseason games. So uh,

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Speaker 1: I'll let them start knocking on wood co GMS Mickey's Bagnolan,

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00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:37,839
Speaker 1: said for that too. No, it is. It's a good

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Speaker 1: problem to have now, com okay, oh, okay, a raise then? Yeah? Right?

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Speaker 1: Um John asked this question and I tease to going

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00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 1: in cheek here, but it's actually kind of an intriguing question.

679
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:57,480
Speaker 1: But should Dak hire an MLB pitching coach or I

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00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:00,799
Speaker 1: guess trainer to help him key up his arm fresh

681
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 1: during the off season after the problems he's had hit

682
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:06,400
Speaker 1: the start of camp, it was probably as fresh as

683
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 1: it could be this laughs offseason, right, I think so. Well,

684
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:13,320
Speaker 1: he wasn't throwing that much from October till he was

685
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 1: throw February. February, he probably didn't do a lot of

686
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 1: throwing when when he couldn't even stand up on his own,

687
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 1: he wasn't throwing nine routes or go routes. Maybe he

688
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:28,400
Speaker 1: should have gone to spring training bring Tom Housing right, Yeah, no, yes, no,

689
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Speaker 1: I'd say no. I think he said he's never really

690
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Speaker 1: experienced this before. Yeah, that that was you know that.

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Speaker 1: That's why it's it surprised him a little bit. Man.

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Speaker 1: Don't don't talk about baseball round Bradsham right now. Oh

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Speaker 1: Chris Bryan Gone. Actually he said he woke up this

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Speaker 1: four am and Olympic baseball? Was that poor guy? All right,

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Speaker 1: let's take our second break when we come back linebacker rankings.

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Speaker 1: We gave you a home work assignment on Thursday. Let's

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Speaker 1: see how both of these guys did. I'll join in

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Speaker 1: as well. We're gonna rank the four linebackers as they

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Speaker 1: Monday at eleven am Central time. Okay. Homework assignment on

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Speaker 1: Thursday was to watch the linebackers and see exactly how

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Speaker 1: they looked. How did they look on Thursday's practice in

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Speaker 1: what you've seen throughout camp, Mackey, I might have to

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Speaker 1: have a four and four A how are you going

757
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:18,879
Speaker 1: to judge Keane O'Neill because he's a linebacker, but he's

758
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:22,759
Speaker 1: not an every down linebacker. He's a change up kind

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Speaker 1: of matchup linebacker, right, Okay, Um, Layton Vandersh, Michael Parsons,

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Speaker 1: h Jalen Smith, and then Keane O'Neill with with Jabril

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Speaker 1: Cox coming, Okay, I'm cool with five here. Then I'm

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Speaker 1: cool with that, so five Okay, I'll go Uh Layton Vanderesh,

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Speaker 1: Michael Parsons, Ganneil, Jalen Smith, Luke Gifford. Wow, he's getting opportunities. Okay.

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Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, there was a couple of

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00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:04,759
Speaker 1: the drills they were doing that he went out their

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Speaker 1: second with Michael Parsons. Yeah. I was about to say

767
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:08,799
Speaker 1: he ran with the twos a little bit. The other

768
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:11,759
Speaker 1: day they had Yeah, they had a surprise period down

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00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:15,240
Speaker 1: on this end here where offense was backed up against

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Speaker 1: their own one had to get two straight first downs

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00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:21,400
Speaker 1: to win the drill, and he ran with the second

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00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 1: and third teams and had it. I think at least

773
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Speaker 1: two would be stops to force the offense off the field.

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00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:29,439
Speaker 1: Con jumped out. He's got to stay healthy. Sure, he's

775
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 1: had problems with his health. I'm not saying Jalen's off

776
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:35,279
Speaker 1: to a bad start. It can't buy any means, But

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00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 1: I just I think Layton, just Layton jumps out at you.

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00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:42,360
Speaker 1: Just how he's moving. He just looks great. He seems

779
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 1: like he's in the right spot with his keys. Mike

780
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:47,440
Speaker 1: has made the most splash plays, and he's more versatile,

781
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:50,400
Speaker 1: more versatile that jumps out at you. Two. He's everywhere.

782
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:54,680
Speaker 1: I mean, he's dropping, he's rushing, he's playing inside outside slot.

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Speaker 1: And I think I think Neils made some plays on

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Speaker 1: the ball. Has he little bits made at least one

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00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 1: that I can remember, Okay a little bit, I mean

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00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 1: not not just in team that's as much as I

787
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 1: remember Jalen Smith making two, though not just in team.

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Speaker 1: I mean I've seen him, you know, cover Zeke in

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00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:12,920
Speaker 1: a one on one drill and you're thinking, Okay, you

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Speaker 1: know he's he's that's the safety in him coming out.

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Speaker 1: But it's it's and we're talking about plays on the ball,

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00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:25,239
Speaker 1: meaning pass plays. Yes, this team's got to stop the run. Great,

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Speaker 1: So when we see more uh you know, drills against

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Speaker 1: the run, they're not putting guys on the ground. Uh,

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00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:35,960
Speaker 1: maybe we're not going to see that until we see

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00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 1: preseason games, right, But again, it's not judged the linebackers

797
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 1: just on pass plays. They got to be able to

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00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 1: stop the run. That was the biggest problem last year.

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00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:52,840
Speaker 1: They could not stop the run. Agree five yards a

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00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:56,680
Speaker 1: carry they were giving up. My math tells me in

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00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 1: two carries that's a first down, no doubt, no doubt.

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00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 1: And look, we are not experts at this watching practice,

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00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:07,239
Speaker 1: knowing everybody's assignments. Knowing I mean, Micah Parsons could be

804
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 1: having a bust here and there that we don't see,

805
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 1: but we see him pick off a pass and we're

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Speaker 1: thinking he's having a great practice. You see these flash

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00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:16,799
Speaker 1: plays and it kind of deters your thoughts away from

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00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:20,280
Speaker 1: from a good practice to a bad practice pretty quickly.

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Speaker 1: But he you see him penetrating against the run, and

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Speaker 1: you see him getting in the right spot, like picking

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Speaker 1: the right gap to hit against the run. It's remarkable

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00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:36,399
Speaker 1: for a guy that didn't play football last year. Well,

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00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 1: and a lot of what dan Quinn was talking about

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00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 1: yesterday was about the linebackers and in these plays and

815
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Speaker 1: in these these scenarios where there's a lot of run

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Speaker 1: defense and you're trying to get the run established, and

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00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:49,880
Speaker 1: that's really what they did on Thursday. You're looking for leverage,

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Speaker 1: You're looking for positioning leverage and where you're hitting a

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Speaker 1: guy because you're not gonna put Tony Pollard, Ezekiel Elia,

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Speaker 1: whoever's running the football on the ground. You're not gonna

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Speaker 1: put him on the ground. So you're looking to be

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Speaker 1: where you're going to hit him from where that leverage is.

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Speaker 1: And I think that's why I would probably still put

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Speaker 1: Jalen Smith third, because he has had a couple of

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00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:09,800
Speaker 1: those looks and Keane O'Neil he hasn't had the flash

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Speaker 1: plays he's had, Like you said, he's gotten his hand

827
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:13,279
Speaker 1: on a couple of balls, but he hasn't made the

828
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 1: flash plays and it's harder to see what he's doing. However,

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00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 1: I do like Keyan O'Neil better in coverage than what

830
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 1: I've seen from Jalen Smith in coverage, and that's pretty over.

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Speaker 1: That's a pretty easy, uh thing to look that look at.

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Speaker 1: But I'm just trying to change it up a little bit. No,

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Speaker 1: I agree change and I agree when I think the

834
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Speaker 1: seat when the season starts, I think Jalen Smith will

835
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 1: have more snaps than Neil. That's that's that's my guess.

836
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Speaker 1: But I feel like you would be bold going the

837
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Speaker 1: other way. Yeah, so I would say, by the way,

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Speaker 1: Layton Vandersch, Michael Parson, Wait, so who's Neil Smith? Who's

839
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:48,400
Speaker 1: Neil replacing? When he's on the field, he would just

840
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 1: rotate in at the SEC probably with late A team, right, Okay,

841
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:55,880
Speaker 1: I'm just I mean, I wouldn't take my best linebacker

842
00:46:55,960 --> 00:47:00,640
Speaker 1: off the field, not a lot, a lot, but not

843
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:04,399
Speaker 1: taking Parsons off the field. He would replace Jalen Yeah,

844
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:07,880
Speaker 1: in change up right, Yeah, I feel like that was

845
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:10,839
Speaker 1: the original plan. Yeah, because if if if you look

846
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Speaker 1: at what they've done when it's been three linebackers on

847
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 1: the first team, it's been Jalen, Layton and Parsons. Well,

848
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 1: what is Jalen Smith's best attribute? It's running downhill? Right, Yeah,

849
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 1: middle linebacker. What is Keona'neil's best attribute playing on the

850
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:31,840
Speaker 1: edge being in coverage? Yeah, there's your changeup. But you

851
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 1: got to take somebody off the field. So you're taking

852
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 1: Jalen and Layton off, maybe putting Michael Parsons out there.

853
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 1: We've seen a lot of a lot of sets with

854
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:45,480
Speaker 1: eleven and forty two. I know, I know, I know.

855
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 1: But if they're lining The encouraging thing to me is

856
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 1: if teams are lining up in base offense or two

857
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:58,319
Speaker 1: tight ends, they're going out there with three linebackers, none

858
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:03,240
Speaker 1: of this nickel stuff and bringing us skinny bone safety

859
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 1: to play linebacker. They're not the run. No, they better not.

860
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 1: I think they will. That's why they got in trouble.

861
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:13,279
Speaker 1: Last year's Mickey's biggest pet peeve of the season. Not

862
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 1: having a strong side linebacker on the field against two

863
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:17,920
Speaker 1: tight ends. I think you're gonna be out of luck again.

864
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna do a lot of that. Well,

865
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:22,480
Speaker 1: then why are they practicing three linebackers out there. They

866
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 1: are with the first team and then well, I don't

867
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:27,840
Speaker 1: why when they go nickel. I don't want three linebackers

868
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:31,320
Speaker 1: out there. I'm talking about bass, gotcha. They better have

869
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:35,240
Speaker 1: three of them out there and stop the run. Twenty

870
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 1: five hundred yards they gave up running the ball. That

871
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:43,960
Speaker 1: just doesn't compute and against the run. I wouldn't qualify

872
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:48,399
Speaker 1: Neil as a skinny bone safety. No, no, I mean

873
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 1: taking a phrase two years ago, but they would put

874
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 1: they would put Xavier Woods in a linebacker. I agree

875
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:57,839
Speaker 1: with you, but I'm just saying, like, like Dan Quinn

876
00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 1: told us yesterday, he tricked Neil into thinking he was

877
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 1: a safety, but he was as fine and played around

878
00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:05,919
Speaker 1: the box. His whole career is two twenty something. He's

879
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 1: heavier than that, right, Yeah, he's definitely beat there. He

880
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:12,080
Speaker 1: looks than that. He looks like a linebacker. See what

881
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:17,160
Speaker 1: he weighed in a two twenty five. I don't know

882
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:19,040
Speaker 1: how many snaps he's gonna play. I just know that

883
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:22,880
Speaker 1: the ten or fifteen, the decordinator likes him, knows him,

884
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:26,080
Speaker 1: trusts him. Yeah, he understands the defense. Yeah, I mean

885
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be out there so I think

886
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a matchup thing. How they have guys

887
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:34,680
Speaker 1: that can match up even in nickel, how they can

888
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:36,919
Speaker 1: match up with who the other team has on the field.

889
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:41,520
Speaker 1: Which I love that because they've had they've had defenses

890
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 1: out there when Parsons has been out there and they've

891
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:46,719
Speaker 1: lined him up on in the slot, like if the

892
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:49,600
Speaker 1: running back goes out into the slot or he they

893
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:51,759
Speaker 1: put Parsons out there on him. And he's been on

894
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:56,759
Speaker 1: wide receivers too, and because they don't know if he's

895
00:49:56,840 --> 00:50:00,719
Speaker 1: covering or if the Cowboys are in own and he's

896
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:04,319
Speaker 1: blitzing from out there, and I think that that's boy,

897
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:08,080
Speaker 1: He's He's really important in that type of scheme. One

898
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:11,400
Speaker 1: of the first practices of the of the camp, Michael

899
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:15,360
Speaker 1: Parsons was about thirty yards downfield having to cover Cede

900
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:18,080
Speaker 1: Lamb over the middle because they were playing zone and

901
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:19,920
Speaker 1: he was not blitzing off the edge, but he was

902
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:22,440
Speaker 1: covered outside in the slot and he had to rotate

903
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:24,360
Speaker 1: as assignment. He kept up pretty well I think with

904
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:27,640
Speaker 1: Ceedee Lamb and that was a scrambled play, yes, and

905
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:30,279
Speaker 1: he ended up on the goal line with CD and

906
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:32,759
Speaker 1: CD did not come down with the football, which is

907
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:36,000
Speaker 1: saying something because he's been fantastic throughout this camp really

908
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 1: quickly before we wrap things up as the helicopter final.

909
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:41,239
Speaker 1: If that's like a third one that's come back, they're

910
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:44,399
Speaker 1: loaded day. Yeah, they are. Thoughts on dan Quinn calling

911
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:47,399
Speaker 1: the defense from the press box level. My friend Rob

912
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:51,320
Speaker 1: I was a little surprised just because not knowing that

913
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:53,719
Speaker 1: he's done that in the past, just because he's so

914
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:55,960
Speaker 1: hands on. Yeah, you know you kind of he reminds

915
00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:58,160
Speaker 1: you of Rod Marinelli a little bit, who was on

916
00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:00,560
Speaker 1: the field that you know, when he coached all the defense.

917
00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:03,719
Speaker 1: But I get it. I think probably that would be

918
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:06,520
Speaker 1: the most logical thing. I would think, if you want

919
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:08,640
Speaker 1: a bird's eye view and you don't have all this

920
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:11,040
Speaker 1: noise down there, you get a better view up top

921
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:14,200
Speaker 1: than you do down on the field. So I would

922
00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:16,200
Speaker 1: understand why he would want to do that. So it

923
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:20,120
Speaker 1: helps out that George Edwards is on the sideline, and

924
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:23,839
Speaker 1: so you've got with You've got you've got a defensive coordinator,

925
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:27,960
Speaker 1: a guy that's been the defensive coordinator in multiple spots

926
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:31,279
Speaker 1: on the sideline with you, So that that I think

927
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 1: helps out with the communication. He said there'd be a

928
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:36,400
Speaker 1: couple of guys up in the booth with him. He

929
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:39,360
Speaker 1: didn't say who, but yeah, that would make sense to

930
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:41,960
Speaker 1: have George down on the field. I would imagine one

931
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:46,000
Speaker 1: of the dB coaches would be up there. They would

932
00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:51,920
Speaker 1: probably keep is a dirty the kind of assistant on

933
00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:55,600
Speaker 1: the field along with Leon thinking Al Harris would probably

934
00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:57,279
Speaker 1: be on the field because he's a pretty hands on

935
00:51:57,400 --> 00:51:59,920
Speaker 1: guy too. That both of those dB coaches are on

936
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:04,279
Speaker 1: the field, Yeah, they'll have uh, the other linebacker coach

937
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:08,759
Speaker 1: McCurley up I bet Um and if there's any other

938
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:12,680
Speaker 1: defensive assistant that they can they can put up two.

939
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:18,479
Speaker 1: Hey how about how about Hunter the punter two field goals?

940
00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:22,160
Speaker 1: Kick two field goals. They were like thirty five yarders,

941
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:25,800
Speaker 1: twenty four and thirty five. Had a donk from forty

942
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:28,960
Speaker 1: seven forty seven. He hit the left upright and they

943
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:31,759
Speaker 1: were keeping score. So if you if you tried to

944
00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:34,359
Speaker 1: field goal and you missed, it was the other team

945
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:36,880
Speaker 1: got eight points and they were sitting there going this

946
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:38,600
Speaker 1: is to win it. This is to win it that

947
00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:42,360
Speaker 1: it hit the upright from forty seven. Goodness, Hunter the

948
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:44,960
Speaker 1: punter handling the punting and kicks and you know what

949
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:49,200
Speaker 1: next show we need to talk about that. Okay, I

950
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:53,040
Speaker 1: think we're out of time. We are, uh Williams shaking

951
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:54,880
Speaker 1: his head, he was like, yes, talk about that. We

952
00:52:55,000 --> 00:53:00,720
Speaker 1: have not we have not seen the kicker kick anything

953
00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:04,839
Speaker 1: yet and until that, no, I mean the kicker. Oh,

954
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:08,759
Speaker 1: Greg's are line, Yes, Greg leg and you know that

955
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:10,960
Speaker 1: back surgery should have been cleared up. I don't know

956
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:13,640
Speaker 1: if he's got something else, but he has not kicked

957
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:17,960
Speaker 1: one that we've seen in practice, and I don't know

958
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 1: if that's a concern or not. When you're backup, kicker

959
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:27,719
Speaker 1: is your punter? Well, tune in on Monday Must see television.

960
00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:30,239
Speaker 1: It's the kicker punter battle here on Talking Cowboys. We

961
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:32,320
Speaker 1: will hit it and we will talk about it. But

962
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:34,000
Speaker 1: we've got plenty more that we're gonna hit from this

963
00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:37,480
Speaker 1: busy weekend of practices. But until next time. From Oxnard

964
00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:40,000
Speaker 1: for Rob Phillips, I'm making or excuse me, he's Mickey's

965
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:44,560
Speaker 1: bagnar I am always I got a little ahead of

966
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:47,839
Speaker 1: myself there, he's Mickey's Bagnola. I'm Kyle Yeomen. So long

967
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:51,279
Speaker 1: from Oxnard here on Talking Cowboys. This has been a

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