1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast 2 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:05,240 Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:09,960 Speaker 2: Hello everyone, welcome to the Almost Famous Podcast. 4 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:12,960 Speaker 3: Today we have a special guest. Her name is Katie Thurston. 5 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 4: Hey Katie, Hello everybody. 6 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:19,439 Speaker 3: So Hey you so Pumpeda. Have you here by the way, 7 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:23,920 Speaker 3: Just very excited it's I have. 8 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:26,479 Speaker 5: I am so interested in your life right now, like 9 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 5: from afar, follow you on social media with the show 10 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:34,319 Speaker 5: coming up. Just very intrigued by you. 11 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:36,880 Speaker 3: Thank you. I appreciate it in the best of ways. 12 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:38,919 Speaker 5: Like I just have a lot of questions, So I'll 13 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 5: let Ashley dig in first, then I'm going to jump in. 14 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 4: Sounds good. 15 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:46,159 Speaker 2: Well, obviously you're going to be on f Boy Island 16 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 2: any day now. It's October sixteenth, Monday, October sixteenth is 17 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 2: when you are going to be one of the three 18 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 2: women trying to tell the difference between a nice guy 19 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 2: and an f boy. It's the first season that it's 20 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 2: going to be on c W. I want to know 21 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:05,559 Speaker 2: what your reaction was when you first met Alan Gale, 22 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 2: who officiated my wedding and was a father of the 23 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:11,399 Speaker 2: Bachelor franchise for so long. 24 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 4: Well, I'd never got to work with him, you know. Yeah. 25 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 4: By the time I had my experience, well on Bachelor, 26 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:18,319 Speaker 4: I should say. 27 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:19,959 Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yes, yes, yes, okay, ye yeah. 28 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 4: But I'd heard so many great things about him, and 29 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 4: so when the opportunity came for the show, and his 30 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 4: name obviously being like the mastermind behind it, I already 31 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 4: had a feeling like it was going to be a 32 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 4: really good match meeting him though everything everyone has ever 33 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 4: said about him is true. He's amazing, He's a genius. 34 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 4: He tells you ideas and you're just like, this is 35 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:40,319 Speaker 4: why you are doing what you're doing. 36 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:41,679 Speaker 3: Yeah. 37 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, So he was great. I love him. We're very 38 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:46,959 Speaker 4: close today, like we've been in constant contact even after 39 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 4: the show, and I mean, he's going to be in 40 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 4: my life forever for sure. 41 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 5: I when I saw that you were going on f 42 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 5: Boy Island, and obviously Alon was around when I was 43 00:01:57,080 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 5: on the show, I immediately my first thought was like, those 44 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 5: two are a good duo, Like you two could work 45 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 5: really well together, and I kind of wanted to go 46 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 5: in and we don't have to, you know, obviously your 47 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 5: time on the Bachelorette is not something we're here to 48 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 5: talk about. We're here to talk about Foy Island. But 49 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 5: I think if you think back on your time as 50 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 5: a bachelorette and you would have had an Alan there. 51 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 5: Who let's be honest, right, Alan does share a lot 52 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 5: of opinions. He has a lot of thoughts. He is 53 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 5: much more I would say, vocal about what he thinks 54 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 5: you should be doing and what he thinks would be 55 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 5: really good. Sometimes that rubs people the wrong way. Sometimes 56 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 5: you're like, no, that's a crazy thought. I would never 57 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 5: do that myself. Do you think you would have appreciated 58 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 5: having him there or do you think it would have 59 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 5: annoyed you in that season of life? 60 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 4: Oh, it would have been a better experience, you know. 61 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 4: And what I went through without him being there? And 62 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 4: what now I know he's like if he had been there. 63 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 4: You know, he definitely has that human element of like, 64 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 4: here's my thoughts, now, tell me what your thoughts are 65 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:01,559 Speaker 4: about that. It was just like it, oh, dialogue ongoing 66 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 4: on how to make great TV? Fine love, you know, 67 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 4: Like there was just so much transparency and that's something 68 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 4: I really respect from him versus you know, other experiences 69 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 4: are a little like everyone's trying to like make you 70 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 4: a little bit bit of a puppet. It's like no, no, 71 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:18,679 Speaker 4: just tell me what you want and like, let's work 72 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 4: together and make something great happen. 73 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, give me, give me the clarity. 74 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 5: I think that's one of the big things that I 75 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 5: felt was at least I had the clarity and I 76 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 5: felt like I had the position to say, no, man, 77 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 5: you're crazy. I'm not doing that. I don't think that's 78 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 5: right at all. And at least the conversation existed. And 79 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 5: maybe that was part of his strategy, because every time 80 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 5: you just get worn down and you're like, yeah, I'll 81 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 5: do whatever you say. But you know, before we dive 82 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 5: into f Boy Island, you do have a career right 83 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 5: now in improv. You have been doing stand up. I 84 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 5: have done that once in my life. I think it 85 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 5: was the hardest thing I've ever done. I never want 86 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 5: to do it again because. 87 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 3: I wants to do it so badly. 88 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 5: I was sweating all over in places I didn't know 89 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 5: I could sweat. I was sick to my stonfe make 90 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 5: it the green room behind it, it was a It 91 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 5: was an open mic. Night was chaotic because you have 92 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 5: people getting sick from being nervous, you have people super 93 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 5: chilled out being like this is just great. And then 94 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 5: you had me just in the corner like shaking, like 95 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 5: I don't want to do it. Katie, what made you 96 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 5: step into that? And kind of how's it going? Give 97 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 5: us a quick update? 98 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:22,039 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, first of all, Jared should definitely give it 99 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 4: a shot, because you never know until you do it. 100 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 4: You have either a Ben who's like I tried it, 101 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 4: never again or myself who when I did my first 102 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:31,599 Speaker 4: open mic, same vibe, I was like, I don't know, 103 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:33,479 Speaker 4: and then did it. I watched the tape back I 104 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 4: was like, hell, yeah, I got this. 105 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 3: You did. 106 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 2: You do have a set written out? 107 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, So when I did my very first open mic, 108 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 4: it's three minutes, which is so obtainable, right, And so 109 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 4: I kept chickening out and then finally I was just 110 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 4: telling you. I'm like, I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna 111 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 4: do I'm gonna do it. Kind of hold myself accountable 112 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:51,480 Speaker 4: by like announcing it. You know, like once you put 113 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 4: it out in the world, you look like a little 114 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 4: chicken when you like back out. So I'm like, well, 115 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:57,160 Speaker 4: everyone knows I'm gonna do it, so I might as 116 00:04:57,200 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 4: well go all in. So, yeah, I had practice a 117 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 4: little bit of a three month the set, but you 118 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 4: really don't know what it's like until you're on stage. 119 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:06,359 Speaker 4: And so when I was on stage, I felt like 120 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:08,159 Speaker 4: I blinked and it was over. But then when I 121 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 4: watched the video back that my friend recorded, I was like, oh, 122 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 4: I think I got this. And so it's been a 123 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 4: year now of doing stand up, both with either open 124 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 4: mics or big shows with big names, and it's just 125 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:20,599 Speaker 4: been so much fun. 126 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:22,159 Speaker 3: That's awesome. 127 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:23,479 Speaker 2: Can you give us a joke right now? 128 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:25,039 Speaker 3: You know? 129 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 4: Literally, men will say that when they find out you're 130 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:29,160 Speaker 4: a comic, They're like, Oh, tell me something funny, and 131 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 4: then I just look at them and I say men, 132 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:35,160 Speaker 4: and then I just want I usually, you know, shut 133 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:36,359 Speaker 4: a lot of guys up when they do that. 134 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 5: So I think that's the thing with with stand up ash. 135 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 5: You know, when I was preparing for it and I 136 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 5: wanted to give it a shot, was like, it's there 137 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 5: is such a different kind of mind space that I 138 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 5: had to get into to go up on the stage 139 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 5: and to share what I was wanting to share and 140 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 5: to see if it would work and react to. I mean, 141 00:05:57,680 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 5: I had I had jokes or segments that got no 142 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 5: last I had some that got a ton of laughs, 143 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 5: and I think Actually I found it more funny once 144 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:06,719 Speaker 5: I was up there at the ones that I wasn't 145 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 5: getting laughs at because it was so awkward, and the 146 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 5: awkwardness makes people laugh, and that was fine for me. 147 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:16,159 Speaker 3: I was good with it. Okay, So, Katie, My first 148 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 3: thought on f Boy Island. 149 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 5: Obviously we've mentioned that we're supporters of Alan tuned in 150 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 5: to the first season. What happens if one of the 151 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 5: three of you just want an f boy? Like, is 152 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:30,480 Speaker 5: that an option or are you all agreeing to look 153 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 5: for the nice guy? 154 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 4: Yeah? 155 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 2: Like, you're not there to really find love, are you. 156 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 4: I mean with this show, it's very different because there's 157 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 4: there's multiple levels to it. There's one hundred thousand dollars 158 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 4: on the line. There's also the dating element, so it's 159 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:45,479 Speaker 4: kind of like a win win, like, hopefully maybe I 160 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:47,839 Speaker 4: win some money, maybe I find love, maybe a boyfriend. 161 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 4: You know, we all kind of had different goals. The 162 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 4: perk of looking for a nice guy is it's an 163 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 4: automatic split of the one hundred thousand dollars with them, 164 00:06:57,360 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 4: So in some degree you hope you fall for a 165 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 4: nice But the thing is, we don't know who that 166 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:05,039 Speaker 4: is yet. So once we've already developed feelings and a 167 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 4: relationship with someone. Towards the end is the reveal of 168 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 4: who is an F boy who's a nice guy? And 169 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 4: sometimes you're just stuck with maybe all F boys and 170 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 4: like you have to just hope that maybe they're what 171 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 4: we call reformed and will choose to walk away with 172 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 4: you and the money at the end, or are they 173 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 4: just the ultimate F boy and they take one hundred 174 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 4: thousand dollars and leave you heartbroken and broke. 175 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 5: The For those who haven't seen the show, do these 176 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 5: guys know what category they're in or is this a 177 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 5: surprise to them? 178 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 4: So every guy comes in with their own definition of 179 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 4: what they think is a nice guy or an F boy, 180 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 4: So you're not like assigned a category. People have their 181 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 4: different reasons for, you know, self labeling themselves is what 182 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 4: they are. You know, I will hint that there was 183 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 4: one nice guy who we will all agree was not 184 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 4: so much of a nice guy. So just because they 185 00:07:55,880 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 4: label themselves something doesn't mean like that's really who they are. 186 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 2: Okay, I'm not going to have you call out any 187 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 2: of your bachelor exes directly, but we know that you've 188 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 2: dated Matt James Blake Wins and then your boyfriend that 189 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 2: you met on your season, John, that you ended up 190 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 2: dating in real. 191 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 3: Life, but you were no longer with. 192 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 2: Of the three of those guys, is there an f 193 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 2: boy amongst them? 194 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 4: I will say this, I do think I tend to 195 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 4: date nice guys, and I would say all three of 196 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 4: those are nice guys. And then in my experience on 197 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 4: this show, I thought I was going to be really 198 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 4: good at picking out who the nice guys are because 199 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 4: that's the type that I date. I was very very 200 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:50,079 Speaker 4: wrong in truth. 201 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:54,080 Speaker 3: Was that a surprise to yourself? Were you? 202 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:56,559 Speaker 5: I mean kind of what's your emotions? Is that as 203 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 5: you walk through this process? Were you frustrated with yourself? Surprised? 204 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 4: I mean overall, I was happy with my experience and 205 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:08,559 Speaker 4: learning about myself and getting to watch these men kind 206 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 4: of navigate their experience as well. But there was at 207 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 4: least one situation that left me very frustrated because it 208 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:17,439 Speaker 4: was very much like a blindside. 209 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:20,440 Speaker 3: I'll say that M something to tune into. 210 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 5: Now, Katie, you obviously have been in the spotlight, you 211 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:28,200 Speaker 5: were the Bachelorette, You've gone on to stand on stages. 212 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:33,960 Speaker 5: You're correct me If I'm wrong, tell me that if 213 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 5: I'm far off, your experience on reality television up to 214 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:41,079 Speaker 5: let's say six months ago was maybe not a positive one. Like, 215 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:42,560 Speaker 5: it wasn't one that you would say, yes, this was 216 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 5: the best season of my life. You know, there's good 217 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:47,080 Speaker 5: things that came from it, but you know you you 218 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:50,320 Speaker 5: weren't exactly like seeking to get back onto the Bachelorette 219 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 5: to be the bachelorret at. 220 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 3: A second time. What is it? Am I right or wrong? 221 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 2: Oh? 222 00:09:55,920 --> 00:10:00,840 Speaker 4: Yeah? I mean I had a lot of emotion recovery 223 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 4: from my reality TV experiences and I didn't have it, 224 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:06,680 Speaker 4: you know, in the front of my mind to ever 225 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:11,199 Speaker 4: really go on reality TV again. So when I got 226 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 4: the call actually for Bachelor in Paradise and for f 227 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 4: Boy Island this summer, it was just kind of like, well, 228 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:19,680 Speaker 4: I guess, I guess I'm not done with reality TV. 229 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, so what like. 230 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 5: Give us a perspective to you personally then, like what 231 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 5: made you say yes to this stuff? 232 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 4: So for f Boy Island, I'd never seen the show, 233 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 4: so I had binge watched season two before agreeing to 234 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 4: do it and then seeing what it was about. Nicki Glazer, 235 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:39,440 Speaker 4: who's a comic. She's the host alone he's the executive producer. 236 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 4: There was just all these positives behind the scenes and 237 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 4: what the show is about. That felt like maybe this 238 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 4: was going to be a better match for me and 239 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 4: my personality than what like traditional bachelorette is. You know, 240 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 4: it's very bachelor, it's very serious, which is great and 241 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 4: works for some people. I just think that's not a 242 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 4: good match for me, you know. So my experience in 243 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 4: doing f Boy Island was are silly and there's humor, 244 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 4: and there's comedians both on this on the cast and 245 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:07,959 Speaker 4: behind the scenes, like it's just a big fun joke 246 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 4: that we're all in on it. It was just it was 247 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:11,680 Speaker 4: just a much better experience. I'm really glad. 248 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:15,840 Speaker 2: I said, yes, now you're with two other girls during 249 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:19,199 Speaker 2: this whole process. It never seems to get catty between 250 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:20,959 Speaker 2: the girls though, but what if you're like fighting over 251 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 2: the same guy because you are genuinely interested, Like, does 252 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 2: it give you bachelor and paradise vibes? 253 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:28,840 Speaker 4: So we all talked about that we didn't really know 254 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 4: what to expect, but truly, with the exception of one person, 255 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:37,960 Speaker 4: it all kind of organically worked itself out naturally. The 256 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 4: one guy that they were kind of both interested in 257 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 4: they talked about real quickly, like behind the scenes, it's 258 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:45,960 Speaker 4: not even a moment for the show, and we're just like, yeah, 259 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 4: go for it. You know, I got a good group 260 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:51,960 Speaker 4: of men here, so they're really for us. Wasn't that 261 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 4: opportunity to really fight over anybody or trade and it 262 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 4: just kind of worked out organically. 263 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 5: How does that make it different? And when they did 264 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 5: two bachelorettes, you think, is there a difference between them? 265 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:08,559 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I don't know how that worked for 266 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 4: the two bachelorettes. I can only speak from my own 267 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 4: bachelorette experience, and what I will say is on f 268 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 4: Boy Island, there's a lot of freedom to just exist 269 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:21,200 Speaker 4: as you are, you know, like like I didn't get 270 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:23,680 Speaker 4: interrupted a lot. There wasn't a lot of producer input, 271 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 4: like they're there, but like as nothing like there's just 272 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 4: they're not interrupting anything, you know. And so I think 273 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 4: that really allowed for organic connections to happen, whereas as 274 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 4: you guys know, with you know, the Bachelor, there is 275 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:39,200 Speaker 4: a little bit more of like guidance for certain things 276 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 4: to happen or conversations or people to be talked to, 277 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 4: you know. So I think just by allowing us to 278 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:49,439 Speaker 4: exist freely, allowed everything to just work out the way 279 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 4: it's supposed to. 280 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 5: What what happens Katie and I apologize, I don't know. 281 00:12:57,320 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 5: I know you go to Bachelor in Paradise. You just 282 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:02,319 Speaker 5: mentioned it. We've seen the teasers. It's not a it's 283 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:05,199 Speaker 5: not a spoiler. I don't know what capacity, like, I 284 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 5: don't know if it's in a Hannah Brown capacity and 285 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:10,560 Speaker 5: you're you're just going down to you know, shakes things 286 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 5: up for a couple hours and you're like, yeah, I'm 287 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 5: just actually here a chill, or if you're actually going 288 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 5: as a contestant. Is that has that been released yet? 289 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 4: That hasn't been talked about. So yeah, you will have 290 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 4: to kind of tune in. I will say Paradise was 291 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:28,439 Speaker 4: filmed first, so the timing of what ends up happening 292 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:32,440 Speaker 4: on Paradise during filming, after filming, and then going on 293 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:35,840 Speaker 4: to F Boy, which you know sometimes there are f girls. 294 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 4: I'll say that in short, you just got to tune 295 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 4: into both shows to kind of see what ends up happening. 296 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:44,479 Speaker 5: It's a big piece and that's like my my curiosity 297 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 5: is here. Let's just say, you know, we don't let's 298 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 5: just say, you go down to Paradise to date, you 299 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:52,559 Speaker 5: find love. What happens then with your commitment to go 300 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 5: to F boy Island. 301 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:57,200 Speaker 4: I mean, just because there's F boys doesn't mean they 302 00:13:57,200 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 4: can't be F girls. 303 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 3: So this is big. Wow, that's really big. 304 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 2: For some reason, seeing you walk down those steps in Paradise, 305 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 2: I never even contemplating, contemplated you being a contestant where 306 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 2: you actually totally can be what it just like was 307 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 2: ruled out in my head that you would ever go 308 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 2: down as a contestant. Okay, Wow, this is good, this 309 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 2: is juicy. Now, you haven't talked to Blake for two years, 310 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 2: he says, as you walk down the stairs, you gotta 311 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 2: tease us with how your first interaction was. 312 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 4: Okay. I was told when I was gonna see everybody, 313 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 4: everyone's going to be very excited and get up and 314 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 4: hug me. And so I went in with this like 315 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 4: mentality like I'm about to be so welcome. When I 316 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 4: walk down, obviously the first person I look for is Blake, 317 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 4: and he's looking at me like he saw a ghost. 318 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 4: And it feels like five minutes of nobody saying anything, 319 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 4: no one's getting up, Like I feel so uncomfortable, like 320 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 4: I will do open mic over and over again before 321 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 4: I ever had to experience entering the beach that way. 322 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel you. I did. 323 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 5: Were you nervous though, I mean, like, were you nervous 324 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 5: to see Blake again? 325 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 4: You know, so much time had passed. I was indifferent, 326 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 4: you know, I Blake's is very mature and despite how 327 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 4: things happened, you know, in the aftermath overall, like we were, 328 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 4: we were two happy people in love at one point, 329 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:30,239 Speaker 4: and so I was very optimistic that, you know, regardless 330 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 4: of his situation status on Paradise, that the conversation was 331 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 4: going to be a positive one and much needed, you know, 332 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 4: as we both navigate whatever happens next in our lives. 333 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 2: Now, I have to just say, as a bachelor detective here, 334 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 2: the bachelor contract would not have allowed you to go 335 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 2: down there and date in then do f Boy Island, 336 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 2: So you are not a contestant. 337 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 3: So this is you are not a contestant. 338 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 4: I mean, you're entitled to your thoughts. Just you have 339 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 4: to know as a as a former bachelorette, you do 340 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 4: have a little bit more power and what your trap 341 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 4: says and how you navigate that. So I am a 342 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 4: very smart business woman. I read my contracts, I negotiate 343 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 4: my contracts, and all I'm going to say is, obviously 344 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 4: I made it work out for me the way I 345 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 4: needed to that best was going to benefit my life, 346 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 4: my love life, and my bank account. 347 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 5: I'm not convince you're not a contestant me neither. 348 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 2: Now that response was epic. 349 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it's I think it's very fair. Here 350 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 5: here's the wild part about all this, Katie. Let's just 351 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 5: say you were a contestant. You've spent the last I mean, 352 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 5: you spent all summer on television, like you were filming 353 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 5: all summer like this is you got to feel all 354 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 5: sorts of weird, right, Like that's a whole different reality 355 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 5: than the real world and sitting in your house with 356 00:16:57,840 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 5: a foster dog. 357 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, it was because the dust felt like it 358 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 4: was finally settling in my life. I was like, all right, 359 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 4: this is the next chapter of what I'm going to do. 360 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:09,159 Speaker 4: And then these phone calls happen. I go, well, I 361 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:11,680 Speaker 4: guess my summer is in front of the camera again. 362 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:13,440 Speaker 3: So was that exciting? 363 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:15,199 Speaker 5: Like are you looking were you looking forward to that 364 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 5: or is this like like does it feel like intimidating 365 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:19,720 Speaker 5: and nerve wracking. 366 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 4: You know, I did. I did my research with both opportunities, 367 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 4: Like I really didn't. I wasn't quick to be like, yes, 368 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:27,439 Speaker 4: put me in front of that camera. You know. I 369 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 4: really made sure it made sense for me, for my 370 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 4: mental health, for everything that I worked so hard to find, 371 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:35,719 Speaker 4: you know, in this point in my life. And so 372 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 4: this year of reality TV has just for both shows, 373 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 4: has just been so much better than my past experiences, 374 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:44,919 Speaker 4: and so I'm really glad to just leave on a 375 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:49,119 Speaker 4: positive note with you know, both different like franchises, my 376 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:51,159 Speaker 4: mental health, you know, coming off of it, and just 377 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:54,400 Speaker 4: feeling just overall very good about my experiences. 378 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:58,119 Speaker 2: So if you are dating in Paradise, who was on 379 00:17:58,160 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 2: your list that you wanted to see down there? 380 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:03,719 Speaker 4: That was the hard part because I haven't actually watched. 381 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 2: That was a hard part. So she had to do it. 382 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:12,440 Speaker 4: I looked, you can do all you want, Ashley, but no, 383 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 4: but I really I haven't kept up with the show. 384 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 4: And so when I showed up there was a lot 385 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 4: of faces. I had no idea who they were. I 386 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:21,160 Speaker 4: don't know where they a villain, are they a good guy? 387 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:23,199 Speaker 4: Are they just a night one guy? I had no 388 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 4: idea who anybody was really. 389 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:27,440 Speaker 2: Who was the hottest when you got down there. 390 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:33,359 Speaker 4: I'll be so honest, there was this comfort in seeing 391 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:37,960 Speaker 4: Blake again. It definitely stirred up some like things I 392 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 4: didn't know. 393 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 5: We're still there and he's kind of he's just looking good, 394 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 5: like we're all everybody talking about Blake two point zero 395 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:45,440 Speaker 5: is doing all right for himself. 396 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 4: It's that breakup glow up that everybody goes through, and 397 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 4: you did it. So I was like, nice to see you. 398 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:54,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, so okay. 399 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:56,120 Speaker 5: We had Wells on a few weeks ago, and as 400 00:18:56,119 --> 00:18:59,359 Speaker 5: we close out here with you, obviously f Boy Island 401 00:18:59,400 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 5: is coming up. 402 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 3: Prety should tune in. 403 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:04,120 Speaker 5: There's just a lot of intrigue and it's a very 404 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:09,160 Speaker 5: fun show to watch. I don't think the name fully 405 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:11,200 Speaker 5: represents the show. I think there's a lot of really 406 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 5: good like moments too behind well that we get to 407 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:20,159 Speaker 5: watch on television as well. But we had Wells on 408 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 5: a few weeks ago, and he had mentioned that there's 409 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:25,440 Speaker 5: a unique dynamic when a lead a former league comes 410 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 5: onto the beach, and that you know, you have multiple 411 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:31,879 Speaker 5: different ways of going about it. Once some of the 412 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 5: leads go down and they only care about everybody else 413 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 5: because they don't feel like they need to care about 414 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 5: themselves or really pursue relationships of selves. Some leads come 415 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 5: down and they kind of have this ego give or take, 416 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 5: you know, a little bit to say, hey, you know, 417 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:48,399 Speaker 5: I was a lead and I'm coming back to the 418 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 5: paradise and you know, y'all you're gonna want me, because yeah, 419 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 5: at one point I was it. How would you best 420 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:58,119 Speaker 5: describe kind of your feelings leading up to the beach? 421 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 4: I mean, I I definitely did not want to target 422 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:03,639 Speaker 4: on my back, so I wanted to make sure I 423 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 4: was humble in my experience. Also, let's not forget two 424 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 4: guys quit my season, so I don't really have that 425 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:13,439 Speaker 4: confidence as the bachelorette. I'm just Katie coming to the 426 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 4: beach and if you like me, great. If you don't, 427 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:19,159 Speaker 4: well that's your loss. But no, I definitely want to 428 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 4: stay humble and just open and not have this like 429 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:23,120 Speaker 4: entitlement when I was there. 430 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:25,679 Speaker 3: Is it the same mentel you took on f Boy Island? 431 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:28,159 Speaker 4: Even more so on f Boy Island because it's a 432 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:31,159 Speaker 4: shared lead spot with two other women, and I was 433 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 4: very nervous that they would feel some kind of way 434 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 4: fun fact, they had no idea who I was, so 435 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:39,159 Speaker 4: we didn't even have to deal with that. So we 436 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 4: really got to navigate our experience, you know, as three 437 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:44,719 Speaker 4: equal women dating these guys, and kind of every night 438 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 4: we kind of go through the list and like, you know, 439 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 4: mix around cards like this has to be an f boy, 440 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 4: this has to be a nice guy. And that was 441 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 4: kind of our like bonding moment every night after filming when. 442 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:55,880 Speaker 3: You go down to Paradise. 443 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 2: I don't know that there's anybody from your season besides Blake, 444 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 2: But when you look back on your season, you did 445 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 2: date John after the fact, is there anybody else that 446 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:08,160 Speaker 2: you were like, Oh, like I could revisit and date 447 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:10,880 Speaker 2: that person, I'm thinking because Michael Alio is single. Your 448 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 2: take on all that. 449 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:15,879 Speaker 4: I will say there definitely was a time where Michael 450 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,959 Speaker 4: was on my mind, but more like fresh in my 451 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:22,359 Speaker 4: experiences and reflecting and watching back and just all of 452 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 4: that stuff. With all the time that has passed, I 453 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 4: do feel like I don't know him as who he 454 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:31,480 Speaker 4: is today. You know, a lot of people go on 455 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:34,240 Speaker 4: the show and come out a little different. A lot 456 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 4: of people go on the show and it's a heightened 457 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:37,359 Speaker 4: version of themselves. But then you get to kind of 458 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:39,359 Speaker 4: see them on social media and you're like, oh, that's 459 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:41,679 Speaker 4: a little different, you know. So there definitely was a 460 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 4: time where Michael was on my mind, but I can 461 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:48,119 Speaker 4: say pretty confidently that that would never be experienced again. 462 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:52,879 Speaker 5: Well, Katie, we got to let you go, but we 463 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 5: do want to remind everybody tune in the f Boy Island. 464 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 5: Katie is going to be one of the three women 465 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 5: walking through the experience. 466 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:01,119 Speaker 3: What do you call them? 467 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:03,439 Speaker 5: What do you call yourselves as the kind of leads 468 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 5: of f Boy Island? Is there a name for it? 469 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:07,359 Speaker 4: You know? Some of the articles have been just calling 470 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:11,440 Speaker 4: us the bachelorette, but yeah, I'd just say the leading 471 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 4: women of. 472 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 5: F Boy Island, leading women of f Boy Island. And 473 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 5: also we've got to tune in to uh to Katie's 474 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:19,879 Speaker 5: story on the beach in Paradise to see how this 475 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,360 Speaker 5: all kind of like filters out. 476 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 3: I don't know, Katie, I'm watching. 477 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 5: And I'm listening to you, and I'm thinking this has 478 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 5: to just get messy. I don't know if it does, 479 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:30,360 Speaker 5: but it feels like it had a lot of risk 480 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 5: to get messy and I want to see if it happens. 481 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 4: I am known for being messy, so tune in to 482 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 4: find out. 483 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:38,639 Speaker 3: That's is good TV. 484 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 2: So thank you, Katie. We'll see you on our TVs 485 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 2: multiple times a week soon maybes, yes, maybe it thank you. 486 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 4: Bye bye. 487 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:51,920 Speaker 5: Well that's been Katie Thurston, former bachelorette, also a potential 488 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:54,720 Speaker 5: contestant on Bachelor in Paradise and one of the leading 489 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:57,440 Speaker 5: women on f Boy Island. Katie's got a lot going 490 00:22:57,480 --> 00:23:00,480 Speaker 5: on uh this summer. I if you you're going to 491 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:02,919 Speaker 5: be watching a lot of her, you can tune in 492 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 5: to f Bay Island on the CW. As we spoke about, 493 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:09,399 Speaker 5: and I don't know, Katie should be shown up to 494 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 5: the beach soon. I guess it would happen within the 495 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 5: next couple of weeks. 496 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 2: I'm excited about that. That is so unexpected. 497 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:16,960 Speaker 3: I totally just. 498 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:20,199 Speaker 2: Assumed she wasn't coming because she's on f Boy Island. 499 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:23,440 Speaker 3: Oh she worked it all out. Well, until next time, 500 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:26,120 Speaker 3: I've been, Ben, I've been Ashley. 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