1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: Hey, guys, ready or not, twenty twenty four is here, 2 00:00:03,960 --> 00:00:06,400 Speaker 1: and we here at Breaking Points, are already thinking of 3 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 1: ways we can up our game for this critical election. 4 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:11,799 Speaker 1: We rely on our premium subs to expand coverage, upgrade 5 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 1: the studio ad staff give you, guys, the best independent 6 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:17,440 Speaker 1: coverage that is possible. If you like what we're all about, 7 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 1: it means the absolute world to have your support. What 8 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 1: are you waiting for? Become a premium subscriber today at 9 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 1: Breakingpoints dot com news breaking last night, Well, let's put 10 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 1: it up there on the screen. It turns out that 11 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 1: ten classified documents were actually removed from Joe Biden's presidential 12 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 1: a vice presidential office found at the Penn Biden's Center 13 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 1: for Diplomacy and Global Engagement while he was moving out 14 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:46,639 Speaker 1: of that office in twenty seventeen. The classified documents were 15 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:51,199 Speaker 1: actually found by Biden's own team in an internal review, 16 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 1: presumably Crystal. After the mar Lago raid in November and 17 00:00:55,920 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 1: the general public consternation about it, the Biden lawyers themselves 18 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 1: were like, hey, maybe we should check our own archives. 19 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 1: They did so they found actually ten documents with classified 20 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 1: marketings on them that were inside of their archives. Removed 21 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:13,680 Speaker 1: from the White House while Joe Biden was the Vice President. Now, 22 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:17,040 Speaker 1: according to Biden and his team, they have immediately returned 23 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 1: those documents upon discovery to the Department of Justice. However, 24 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 1: the Department of Justice itself has actually opened a review 25 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 1: of the case, Attorney General Meyrick Garland actually appointing a 26 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 1: Trump appointee, a special prosecutor, to actually review the entire case. 27 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:37,480 Speaker 1: So all of this a bit awkward and frankly embarrassing 28 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:40,679 Speaker 1: for the Biden administration just because they've made such a 29 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 1: big deal of the Trump case. I mean, I would 30 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 1: have to say, of course, what separates the two is 31 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 1: not the possession of the classified documents itself. But with Trump, 32 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 1: there appears to be a concerted effort by Trump, his 33 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 1: lawyers and others to simply just not return the documents, 34 00:01:57,040 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 1: not necessarily out of malice, but increasingly out of arrogance 35 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 1: and incompetence by basically some of these are my documents, 36 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 1: which not really how presidential records work. But I will 37 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 1: say I think it does validate one of the points 38 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 1: that a lot of people who had defended him said, 39 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:13,800 Speaker 1: putting the obstruction aside, They're like, hey, I think a 40 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 1: lot of these presidential libraries do have at least some 41 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 1: sensitive documents. It also does raise a question broadly to me, 42 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:23,679 Speaker 1: why do these people get to hang on to literally 43 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:26,079 Speaker 1: anything If they are matter right of state? Why are 44 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:28,800 Speaker 1: they allowed to be at these libraries at all? Should 45 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:30,959 Speaker 1: they not just be purely in the possession of the 46 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:33,800 Speaker 1: National Archives. Maybe that's just a crazy thought. Just because 47 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:35,959 Speaker 1: you're president, I don't think that entitles you for all 48 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 1: time to possession of your own file. I think that's 49 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 1: a good point. I think another point is that, like obviously, 50 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 1: overclassification is a massive issue. So a lot of these 51 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know what these particular documents from 52 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:49,640 Speaker 1: Biden were, I don't know how secret they were, what 53 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:52,800 Speaker 1: highest classification market, et cetera was on them. But a 54 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:57,239 Speaker 1: lot of stuff that is technically classified is totally available 55 00:02:57,400 --> 00:03:00,240 Speaker 1: in the public sphere and really shouldn't be classified. So 56 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:02,079 Speaker 1: that's an important thing to keep in mind here as well. 57 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 1: I think your point about the difference between him and 58 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 1: Trump's case is also you know, a valid one. Probably 59 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:11,360 Speaker 1: the FAF Trump ends up being indicted on the document issue, 60 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 1: it is more likely to be because of the obstruction 61 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 1: than because he you know, accidentally or intentionally or whatever 62 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 1: held on to these documents at this point, there's all 63 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 1: kinds of reporting about how they were going back and 64 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 1: forth with the National Archives for a while it was productive, 65 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:27,359 Speaker 1: and then basically he decided like, no, these are my documents. 66 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 1: I'm going to stonewall. They apparently have some camera footage 67 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 1: of him like moving boxes around and trying to conceal them, 68 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 1: so that is probably going to be the bigger issue 69 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 1: for Trump. But putting all of that aside, obviously this 70 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 1: is a very bad look for the president, is very awkward, 71 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 1: given the concern consternation about the documents that former President 72 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 1: Trump was ultimately holding on to. There's another thing that, 73 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 1: you know, it's I guess a little bit of a 74 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 1: side story here, but something that Ken Vogel was pointing out, 75 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 1: which I think is worth noting. So these documents were 76 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 1: located were found by Biden's own attorneys at the Penn 77 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 1: Biden Center, and this is where he had this cushy 78 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 1: gig during the off season when he was not vice 79 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 1: president and was not yet running for president, where he 80 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:16,159 Speaker 1: made nine hundred thousand dollars over the course of just 81 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 1: two years for a vaguely defined role that involved no 82 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:23,920 Speaker 1: regular classes and about twelve public appearances on campus. So 83 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 1: this was a very cushy gig for him, where he 84 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:29,039 Speaker 1: apparently did basically nothing and earned almost a million dollars 85 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 1: and hung out with some classified documents in an office 86 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:34,920 Speaker 1: is apparently what was ultimately going on here. So there's 87 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 1: a lot of layers of exposing the political system in 88 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 1: the whale of this ultimately works at work in the story. 89 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 1: Oh absolutely, It's just again, I don't know how we 90 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:49,720 Speaker 1: created this weird system where presidents and former officials feel 91 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 1: entitled to their matters of state while they leave office, 92 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 1: even though they're allegedly at least important to the American public, 93 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 1: and then are then just allowed to create these insane 94 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 1: centers where they get paid a ton of money and also, 95 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:07,600 Speaker 1: by the way, get to solicit private donations. This you know, 96 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:10,279 Speaker 1: like the Jeff Bezos giving one hundred million dollars to 97 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 1: the Obama Library in Chicago. The fact that Obama, I believe, 98 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 1: is like in consternation with some community activists in order 99 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 1: to get some of the land for his own. But again, 100 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 1: I don't even want to make it about them. You know, 101 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:25,600 Speaker 1: my hometown College station. The George H. W. Bush Presidential 102 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 1: Library is there, and again like you'll go there and 103 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 1: you'll see like treasures, you know, pieces of the Berlin 104 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 1: Wall and jewels and other things that were given to 105 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 1: President Bush while he was in office. I was like, 106 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:39,479 Speaker 1: I don't really understand, like why this stuff is all 107 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 1: year like who actually owns it? There just seems to 108 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:44,719 Speaker 1: be this quasi almost like a royal treatment that we 109 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 1: give people, and that really just needs to go away completely. 110 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:49,720 Speaker 1: There's one last piece that I want to add on 111 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:53,720 Speaker 1: to this, which is the timing of the disclosure that 112 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 1: these documents were located, because apparently the documents were actually 113 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 1: found like a week for the midterm Wow, they waited 114 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:06,279 Speaker 1: a couple months until they, you know, secured their election 115 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:10,719 Speaker 1: situation for this revelation to ultimately be made. I'm reading 116 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 1: for a New York Times story here they say. The 117 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:15,039 Speaker 1: White House statement said that it is cooperating with the 118 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 1: Department of Justice, but did not explain why mister Biden's 119 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:19,839 Speaker 1: team waited more than two months to announce the discovery 120 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 1: of the documents, which came a week before the midterm 121 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 1: congressional elections, when the news would have been an explosive 122 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 1: last minute development. So also another little interesting note. So 123 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 1: just the level of corruption here listen, unbelievable. Lock them 124 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 1: all up. Yeah yeah, Just takeaway is yeah, it is 125 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 1: substanutely different, at least legally, you know, in terms of 126 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 1: the way that it's being treated. But you know, on 127 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 1: the substance, clearly did the exact same thing. I guess 128 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 1: just didn't have an idiocy to try and cover it up. 129 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 1: And it's going to be embarrassing for him regardless, especially 130 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 1: if Trump does get indeted. Expect to hear all about 131 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 1: it on the Fox News channel, yes, and elsewhere. Ye, 132 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 1: So get acquainted with the details. You're well, guys on 133 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:01,840 Speaker 1: the toime, we're equal opportus. Fortunately our coverage. We've got 134 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:03,839 Speaker 1: to cover it. It's going to be an important story. 135 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 1: Pete Bodhaje Dge. My favorite subject air travel. So as 136 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 1: Counterpoints did a phenomenal job doing. Yesterday, we had a 137 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 1: complete shutdown of air travel in the United States for 138 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 1: several hours up until nine am Eastern time. I don't 139 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 1: have to tell you that causes massive cascading delays, both 140 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 1: international and within the country. There were even some stories 141 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 1: of planes that were literally halfway through in the air 142 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 1: and had to turn around and go back. So I 143 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 1: missed that. What a nightmare wow for people who had 144 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 1: to participate. I believe it was Marquise Browne who talks 145 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 1: about that the tech YouTuber. Anyway, so all eyes on 146 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 1: our Secretary of Transportation, Pete Boota Jedge. This is now 147 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 1: the third massive meltdown of US air travel that has 148 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 1: happened under him, the second in just a matter of weeks. 149 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 1: What's going on? So we turned to our great secretary 150 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 1: in the middle of this crisis, and he says, I 151 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 1: have no idea what's going on. Here's what he said 152 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 1: after air travel was actually resumed. Let's take a listen. Well, 153 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 1: now that the system is up and running, our primary 154 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 1: focus is to determine that root cause, and I've directed 155 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 1: FAA to figure out exactly how this happened. The timeline 156 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 1: piece by piece about what was known overnight, going into 157 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 1: last night and then coming out of it. And most importantly, 158 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 1: as you might imagine, a critical system like this has 159 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 1: a lot of redundancy built into it with backups, so 160 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 1: we need to understand why with all of that redundancy, 161 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 1: it still rose to the level that there had to 162 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 1: be a groundstop lasting about an hour and a half, 163 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 1: and the kind of delays that we saw. This is 164 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:38,839 Speaker 1: an incredibly complex system. So glitchers or complications happen all 165 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 1: the time. Glitchers are complications happen all the time. I 166 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 1: have no idea what happened? What do we pay you for? 167 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 1: You know, Look, let's go and put the next one 168 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 1: up there on the screen. There were ten thousand flights 169 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 1: that were delayed or canceled just yesterday and passengers of course, 170 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 1: just having a complete nightmare. Also, anybody who flies a 171 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 1: lot knows this, which is that if the morning flight 172 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:00,560 Speaker 1: gets delayed, those flights by five legs. After that, If 173 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 1: the six am gets delayed, that means the nine am 174 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 1: is delayed, which means the noon and the four pm, 175 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:05,680 Speaker 1: and the six pm and the seven pm. So you 176 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 1: can go all the way down the line. It was 177 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:09,599 Speaker 1: a nightmare traveling yesterday, and it's just one of the 178 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 1: look we are have one of the nation's most robust 179 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 1: air you know, we have so much air travel that 180 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 1: occurs in this country due to our geography. Used to 181 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 1: be we were kind of the shining light of aviation 182 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 1: across the world. We've had complete meltdowns in our system 183 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 1: all under this man. People are like, what is he 184 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 1: supposed to do? You know, oversee the computer programmers. I'm like, yeah, actually, 185 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 1: because actually the Inflation Reduction Act, Infrastructure Bill and others 186 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:38,439 Speaker 1: actually gave a billion dollars to the US Department of 187 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 1: Transportation specifically to update a FAA computer systems. Now, in 188 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 1: terms of what actually went wrong, news came out this 189 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:49,560 Speaker 1: morning and says that a computer programmer effectively uploaded like 190 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 1: a damaged file and that's what data corrupted data, and 191 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:54,680 Speaker 1: that's what brought down the whole system for several hours. Okay, 192 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 1: but you know, my question is like, why is it 193 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:58,080 Speaker 1: even possible to be that vulnerable for one of the 194 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 1: most critical systems in the entire year United States where 195 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 1: you ground every flight. You know that stuff hasn't happened 196 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 1: since like nine to eleven in terms of no flights 197 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 1: that are allowed up in the sky. This is a 198 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 1: total breakdown in the FAA system. Also, we should remember 199 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 1: bootage Edge was bragging about the FAA and its ability 200 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 1: to handle some of the critical infrastructure in this moment 201 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 1: when the airlines were actually blaming the FAA for many 202 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:27,680 Speaker 1: of the delays several months ago, and he specifically pointed 203 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:30,200 Speaker 1: to things that he was doing within the FAA to 204 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:32,200 Speaker 1: make it operate better. I mean, I just think this 205 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 1: highlights like a basic lack of competence because you know, 206 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 1: fool me on. So a one problem, okay, you know, 207 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:39,720 Speaker 1: we can talk a little bit. Although the one problem 208 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 1: actually lasted several months. This is the third major mountdown. 209 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 1: This is the worst year in like a twelve month 210 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 1: or so period in modern history of air travel since 211 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:53,199 Speaker 1: nine to eleven. That is now all happening under Pete Bootage. Yes, 212 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:55,960 Speaker 1: and billions of dollars in commerce are being lost, but 213 00:10:56,200 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 1: put that aside, think about the people who this stuff affects. 214 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:03,719 Speaker 1: Its people are flying to funerals, sometimes to weddings, you know, 215 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 1: I mean it ruins people's lives whenever you have stuff 216 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:08,840 Speaker 1: like this happen. The stress and the extra money that 217 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 1: some people have to undergo, it's just outrageous. You know, 218 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 1: it's not just for the rich that a lot of 219 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:15,080 Speaker 1: a lot of working middle class people are very affected 220 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:17,199 Speaker 1: by this. Yeah, I mean, and Pete is supposed to 221 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:19,560 Speaker 1: be mister McKenzie, so he's supposed to be, you know, 222 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:23,439 Speaker 1: experted making these systems run super efficiently, et cetera, et cetera. 223 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:25,560 Speaker 1: So there's that, and I agree with you. If it 224 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 1: was just this one incident, yeah, you could say, you 225 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 1: know what, not really has fall like sold system? Who 226 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:34,840 Speaker 1: could know? Et cetera. When you look at the pattern 227 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 1: of one crisis after another crisis after another crisis, it 228 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:43,079 Speaker 1: becomes very clear this man is wildly unqualified for and 229 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:48,560 Speaker 1: by the way, uninterested in actually doing this job. Pete 230 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 1: Bodagic is basically good at two things, and they're related things. 231 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 1: One of those things is getting rich people to donate 232 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 1: money to his campaign. That's number one, wine Cave, remember 233 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 1: all that. Number two is saying a lot of words 234 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:04,080 Speaker 1: that basically mean nothing. Those are the two things he's 235 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 1: good at. And last time there was a big airline 236 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 1: crisis with Southwest and whatever. I saw Claire mccaskell on Twitter. 237 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 1: She reposted one of his cable news appearances and she's like, 238 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 1: oh my god, he's just so good, and it's like 239 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 1: Jesus Christ, you all are the hollowest people on earth. 240 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:24,960 Speaker 1: The man is failing at his job in every way 241 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:27,440 Speaker 1: you could possibly measure. He's got to be the worst 242 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:31,679 Speaker 1: cabinet secretary in the entire administration, and yet he goes 243 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 1: on cable news and he's able to like bullshit and 244 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 1: spin for a few minutes, and now you're like, oh 245 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:39,960 Speaker 1: my god, he's so amazing. It is so shallow and 246 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 1: so ridiculous. We all know the reason he's in this job. 247 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 1: It's because he did what Joe Biden wanted him to 248 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 1: do in the primary when he was told to do it. 249 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 1: He didn't want to be o MB secretary because he 250 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 1: wanted the glamour of being cabinet secretary and being a 251 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 1: part of the infrastructure package and traveling around to his 252 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 1: ribbon cuttings. This has been a disaster for him politically, 253 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 1: it's been a bigger disaster for the country at a 254 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 1: time when you know, I don't know that the Transportation 255 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:06,439 Speaker 1: secretary has ever been more important. This is probably since 256 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 1: nineteen seventy five, the deregulation of airlines, and arguably during 257 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 1: nine eleven issis because you had the supply chain crises. 258 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:16,199 Speaker 1: You've had these airline crises and again railroads. To make 259 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:19,200 Speaker 1: it really clear on this, this man has a lot 260 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 1: of power to hold these airlines to account. There are 261 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 1: all sorts of issues here where basically they book out 262 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 1: a flight schedule they know they can't possibly achieve, but 263 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 1: they're able to goose their revenue and their earnings by 264 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:34,679 Speaker 1: booking people on flights. That everything has to go absolutely 265 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 1: perfect in order for it to happen. And they took 266 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:40,320 Speaker 1: all this money from us, they got bailed down, and 267 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 1: then they pushed their staff out, so they're wildly understaffed 268 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 1: again at their own like this was their own failure. 269 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 1: Multiple politicians Rocna, Bernie Sanders, others, David dan In an 270 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:53,439 Speaker 1: American Prospect, they've been pointing out ways that he could 271 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 1: use his power in order to make sure these airlines 272 00:13:57,080 --> 00:13:59,560 Speaker 1: are held to account and actually have real measurable fees 273 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 1: in that pass sngers are being made whole. When this 274 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 1: happens to him hasn't done it. He'll go on and 275 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:06,680 Speaker 1: he'll blust her on TV and they have not charged 276 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 1: a single major airline, and then you're right. He was 277 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 1: also part of perhaps the biggest Biden administration betrayal of 278 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 1: working people, which was crushing the rail workers and sending 279 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 1: them back to work and siding with the bosses there. 280 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 1: So it has been one catastrophe after another, catastrophe after 281 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 1: another catastrophe. And I don't know if this is related 282 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 1: or not. You know, Debbie Stabnaugh, who's the Center for Michigan, 283 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 1: She's announced she's retiring, so that opens up an open 284 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 1: seat there. Always it's going to be highly competitive, both 285 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 1: in the general election also in the primary. Pete had 286 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 1: just moved to Michigan, which is I guess where Chassen 287 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 1: is from. And so I don't know if this is why, 288 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 1: but he's already announced he's not going to go for 289 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 1: that seat. I mean, I do. My biggest hope out 290 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 1: of all of this is that this has actually really 291 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 1: damaged his political career and that people actually care about 292 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 1: the substance of the fact that this man was totally 293 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 1: unable and unequipped to do what was a really important 294 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 1: job at a really important US I'm mendously important job. 295 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 1: And look, we're not just talking. Put the data up there, please. 296 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 1: I went ahead and pulled this from earlier this year. 297 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 1: Take a look at twenty two versus twenty nineteen. In 298 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 1: January of twenty twenty two, confer US airline cancellations two 299 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 1: point eight percent twenty nineteen, more than double five point 300 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 1: six percent in twenty twenty two, and it remained elevated 301 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 1: from January to September, with only three months in twenty 302 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 1: nineteen through September where things resumed, but the delay number 303 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 1: was also a catastrophe. It remained above twenty percent all 304 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 1: the way from January to August. That's almost one fifth 305 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 1: of all flights in the United States that were delayed 306 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 1: under Pete buddhaj edge with a normal delay rate of 307 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 1: somewhere between fourteen and fifteen percent on average pre in 308 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 1: the pre like before times, again, he has actual unilateral 309 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 1: authority to levy fines. Furthermore, in terms of the actual 310 00:15:57,120 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 1: behavior of the airlines itself, like, look, the airline are 311 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 1: greedy and they have been doing everything they possibly can 312 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 1: to juice their stock price. And in fact, one of 313 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 1: the problems is all of the airlines are required to 314 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 1: try and contribute to an FAA infrastructure upgrade given the 315 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 1: fact that they benefit from it, and as our friend 316 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 1: Matt Solar pointed out, put this up there on the screen, 317 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 1: they have been trying to avoid contributing to FA infrastructure upgrades, 318 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 1: specifically so that they can do stock buybacks. This was 319 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 1: a key part of the Southwest Airline story Southwest Airlines 320 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 1: has meltdown happened just three weeks after they issued or 321 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 1: announced a new dividend to stockholders because they said that 322 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 1: profits were good and that they're well prepared for holiday travel. 323 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 1: Those profits easily and should have been reinvested in their 324 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 1: staffing system, which would not have required them at one 325 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 1: point to cancel fifty percent of all flights worldwide in 326 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 1: the middle of one of the busiest holiday travel seasons. 327 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 1: He has authority to look at all of this, and 328 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 1: I am watching this. It's insane. As you said this, 329 00:16:56,680 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 1: we have never needed a good transpertation Secretary. More. Is 330 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 1: he individually responsible for each one of these things? No, 331 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 1: but he has oversight authority and needs to tackle this 332 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:08,919 Speaker 1: with the crisis. Every single one of us knows that 333 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:11,120 Speaker 1: he cares more about going on CNN to talk about 334 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 1: the game marriage bill. That's what he can. That's all 335 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 1: he's actually good for going on Fox and be're like, no, 336 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 1: Brett Bear, let me tell you why I'm actually doing. Oh, 337 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:20,359 Speaker 1: by the bide, administration is the best thing. Look, man, 338 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 1: all of us want to do is catch a flight 339 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:25,439 Speaker 1: and you have a reasonable expectation that it's going to 340 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 1: be on time. And that if it does get canceled, 341 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 1: that you won't get builked, you know, for the money 342 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:34,160 Speaker 1: that you already spent on a very inflated ticket. Definition 343 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 1: of an empty suit and bigger picture, think of what 344 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:40,119 Speaker 1: it says about the Democratic Party that they're like, you know, 345 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:42,439 Speaker 1: big up and comers. The bench that they are so 346 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 1: excited to build the bridge to the future with is 347 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:49,639 Speaker 1: Kamala Harris and Pete Buddhage. I mean, two of the 348 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 1: least equipped, like least talent in terms of actually doing 349 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 1: the job. Now. Kamala is also even terrible on TV. 350 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:01,720 Speaker 1: Pete is just a complete empty suit. He is a 351 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 1: BS artist. He's good at that. He's good at like 352 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 1: his little cable news appearances. He is very good at that. 353 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 1: Does that help you get your flights? Does that help 354 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:13,160 Speaker 1: the real workers who needed an administration to have their back? 355 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:15,960 Speaker 1: Did that help our supply chain issues to get solved? No, 356 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:19,399 Speaker 1: not whatsoever when it actually mattered, when you actually needed 357 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 1: content and someone who was capable and someone who's willing 358 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 1: to stand up to the airlines who are powerful moneyed 359 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 1: interest nowhere to be found. And the last thing I'll 360 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:31,160 Speaker 1: note here is even the mainstream press has taken note. 361 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:33,639 Speaker 1: I saw a piece this morning at Axios. Now they 362 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:35,440 Speaker 1: frame it as like, oh, some of this is unfair, 363 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 1: et cetera, et cetera. But it is starting to be 364 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:41,119 Speaker 1: noted in the outlets that Pete cares about very much 365 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 1: that this has gone extremely poorly for him. Good. Maybe 366 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:47,360 Speaker 1: it'll encourage him to do his job better. But I'm 367 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 1: not going to hold my breath next. I don't know 368 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 1: that he I don't know he's capable of it, even 369 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:52,680 Speaker 1: if he wanted to. I don't know that he's I 370 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:54,920 Speaker 1: saw somebody say, Crystal Saga, you guys should just drive 371 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:58,880 Speaker 1: to Austin. It's probably easier at that point. Okay, Kyle 372 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:02,400 Speaker 1: would like to do he hates hates. That's a whole 373 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 1: Others from the left, some of the reporters and others 374 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:13,640 Speaker 1: are attacking the Biden administration for effectively recreating Trump's policy, 375 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 1: and the Biden press secretary just completely crumbled when faced 376 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:20,679 Speaker 1: with that. Let's take a listen. Just following up on 377 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 1: the border, I spent a long time covering immigration stuff 378 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 1: during the Trump years. I never saw more damning quotes 379 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 1: from immigration advocacy groups and human rights groups during the 380 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 1: Trump years. That as I saw yesterday towards this administration. 381 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 1: Just reading one to you, eleanor Acer, who's one of 382 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 1: the leading avacy people at heads up the Refugee Group 383 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:46,639 Speaker 1: called what the president did yesterday a humanitarian disgrace, and 384 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:49,879 Speaker 1: that was echoed across the board in literally scores of 385 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:52,920 Speaker 1: emails I got from every humanitarian group. What do you all, 386 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 1: what does the administration say to the overwhelming consensus from 387 00:19:57,080 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 1: people who advocate on behalf of asylum seekers and refugees 388 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 1: and migrants that what the president did yesterday was a 389 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 1: humanitarian disgrace. Well, obviously we take a different view. What 390 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:10,360 Speaker 1: we would say is that this is a president who 391 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 1: understands that safe and legal immigration into this country is 392 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:20,879 Speaker 1: a key cornerstone of our own security and prosperity. Clearly 393 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 1: you can see that they just can't handle any questioning 394 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:25,920 Speaker 1: on this whatsoever. And it highlights what you were discussing, 395 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 1: which is, look, it's the border has been a problem 396 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:29,919 Speaker 1: for them since day one. They basically have had no 397 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:32,399 Speaker 1: idea what to do. They kind of fought Title forty 398 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 1: two in court, then they couldn't and now they're recreating, effectively, 399 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:40,680 Speaker 1: they're recreating the remain in Mexico policy for three more 400 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 1: they're creating, they're expanding it, so they're expanding remaining in Mexico. 401 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:46,680 Speaker 1: And by the way, I support remained in Mexico. I 402 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 1: think is probably the best solution outside of the judges. 403 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:51,359 Speaker 1: I don't think, you know, we should just allow people 404 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 1: to come here willy nilly. But the point of all 405 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 1: of us, I want to say, is that whether you're 406 00:20:57,160 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 1: left or whether you're right, this is full blown, pure hypocrisy. 407 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 1: And frankly, I don't think it's actually going to help 408 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:06,680 Speaker 1: him in any way. I think it's clear what's happening here. 409 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 1: He wants he's going to run for president again. He 410 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 1: knows the border is a huge problem. He's trying to 411 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:14,920 Speaker 1: recreate Trump policy, but the kind of appease like liberals 412 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:18,159 Speaker 1: who effectively want like open borders, and he's like, well, 413 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 1: what do I do here? I'm going to try and 414 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 1: you know, create some sort a third way. But here's 415 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 1: the thing. No Republican is going to trust Biden on 416 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:27,120 Speaker 1: the border after two years of what we've been had 417 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:29,159 Speaker 1: happening down there. And I also don't think he's going 418 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:32,640 Speaker 1: to get any particular credit with the left or even 419 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 1: with Democrats for attacking it this way. And there's also 420 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 1: a very cowardly visit I think, in my opinion, going 421 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 1: to just Al Paso ahead of his head of his 422 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:43,159 Speaker 1: trip to Mexico. We're about to talk about what's happening 423 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:46,640 Speaker 1: in Mexico right now head of its visit. But look, 424 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 1: I mean even Trump did more, actually even Obama did 425 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:53,919 Speaker 1: more of an effort in actual visits down there. I 426 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 1: mean to the Biden administration, who have they sent Kamala 427 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:59,399 Speaker 1: Harris down to the Northern Triangle. That's just not been 428 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:02,880 Speaker 1: a serious treated issue. But part of what happened is 429 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:07,159 Speaker 1: that Obama thought if he was super hardline on immigration 430 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 1: and you know, deporter in chief, which he was, that 431 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 1: that would give him the political credibility to strike a 432 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 1: deal with Republicist on immigration reform. And Republicans don't want 433 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 1: to strike a deal on immigration reform. They like the issue. 434 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 1: They like being able to send cameras down to the 435 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:24,879 Speaker 1: border and show thousands of people sleeping under a bridge 436 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 1: or whatever. They like going down to some country and 437 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:31,119 Speaker 1: finding a caravan and like freaking people out before midterm elections. 438 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:35,679 Speaker 1: They like having this issue remain unsolved. And so I 439 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:38,879 Speaker 1: have all kinds of issues with Biden and this policy. 440 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 1: I think again, Title forty two is absurd at this point. 441 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 1: The idea that this is like justified by the pandemic 442 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:48,359 Speaker 1: is stupid. People have a right to claim asylum the 443 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 1: countries that we're talking about. Let me give you the 444 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 1: four countries that we're talking about here where the bulk 445 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:58,200 Speaker 1: of the migrants are coming from. It is Cuba, Nicaragua, Haiti, 446 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:03,680 Speaker 1: and venezeul Okay. Three of those four countries we right 447 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:07,399 Speaker 1: now have massive sanctions on which are part of why 448 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 1: people are so desperate. It's not the whole story, but 449 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 1: it's a big part of why people are so desperate. 450 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 1: And we're having to wanting to come here in the 451 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:17,719 Speaker 1: first place. And then Haiti, our hands are I mean, 452 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 1: the dude we're propping up in Haiti may have had 453 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:22,680 Speaker 1: something to do with the last prime ministers death. Here's 454 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 1: the thing. Does that mean every person that the US 455 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:26,919 Speaker 1: has ever interfered with has a right to come here? Like? 456 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:30,439 Speaker 1: By that rights, anyone from Iraq should allowed come to 457 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:32,479 Speaker 1: the United States. Well, I mean there are a lot 458 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 1: of people from Iraq who should be allowed to come 459 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 1: to the United States. Look, there's two. But there's two 460 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 1: things here. Number One, I'm pointing out we are to 461 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:42,159 Speaker 1: blame for a lot of the misery in these countries 462 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:44,119 Speaker 1: that is causing people to want to flee in the 463 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 1: first place. So if you wanted to deal with the 464 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:47,679 Speaker 1: root of the problem, you don't think that a lot 465 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:49,639 Speaker 1: of the misery in Cuba is because of us or 466 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 1: Venezuela too. So anyway, if you have people who have 467 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 1: legitimate reasons to come here and are fleeing violence and 468 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:01,639 Speaker 1: chaos that, by the way, the war on drugs also 469 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:03,879 Speaker 1: helps to create. There are a lot of things we 470 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:07,639 Speaker 1: could do by changing our policy to make it so 471 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 1: fewer people wanted to come here in the first place, 472 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 1: because this is not like a fun journey that people 473 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:15,480 Speaker 1: want to undertake just for shits and giggles. That's number one. 474 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 1: Number two, people have a right, if they have a 475 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 1: legitimate asylum claim under our law and under international law, 476 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:25,359 Speaker 1: to file for that claim. The idea that the pandemic 477 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 1: still now should change that is absurd at this point. 478 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:32,399 Speaker 1: But because you have Republicans who do not want to 479 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 1: solve this issue, who like the fact that they can 480 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 1: send cameras down there and create political upset about it 481 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:42,679 Speaker 1: at election time. You have an insane process, and then 482 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 1: you end up for the Biden administration to signal to 483 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:49,320 Speaker 1: the right and that they're serious and whatever, not only 484 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:53,440 Speaker 1: recreating the Trump administration policy, but actually expanding the Trump administry. Yeah, 485 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 1: but I don't think that Republicans owe people love this issue. 486 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 1: I mean think a lot of Democrats are very comfortable 487 00:24:57,560 --> 00:24:59,160 Speaker 1: with the fact that millions of people can just come 488 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:02,200 Speaker 1: here illegally stay, which I think is crazy and completely insane. 489 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:05,440 Speaker 1: And look, I mean the idea that every crapity makes 490 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:07,919 Speaker 1: that earth because what I see is, well, then why 491 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 1: don't they They're also not they're the ones who have 492 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 1: effectively allowed catch and release and gone to bat for 493 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 1: that program over the last twenty years. Because that's what. No, 494 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:20,239 Speaker 1: that's not that's that's true, what national law determines. And 495 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:22,720 Speaker 1: the problem, the reason why you have people who stay 496 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:26,159 Speaker 1: here so long is because of this backlogged immigration system. 497 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 1: And by the way, the overwhelming majority of people who 498 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 1: claim asylum do show up then for their court order. 499 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:37,159 Speaker 1: That's but it's insane. It's insane that you have years 500 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:39,439 Speaker 1: go by that people are here, and that's true, and 501 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:41,160 Speaker 1: by the time that you have people who've been here 502 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:44,119 Speaker 1: for years. Then to say, okay, well your claim is 503 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:47,160 Speaker 1: you know, is not proper and you have to be removed. Yeah, 504 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:50,719 Speaker 1: that becomes a lot more difficult of a process. So listen. 505 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:53,200 Speaker 1: I just think it's an issue where there's a lot 506 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:56,639 Speaker 1: of dishonesty, where Republicans like the problem and don't actually 507 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:59,400 Speaker 1: want to solve it, and where a lot of our 508 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 1: policy here in terms of sanctioning these countries exacerbates the 509 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:06,239 Speaker 1: issue so that we have more flows of migrants than 510 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 1: we would other I think that I'm not saying it's 511 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:09,919 Speaker 1: one hundred percent. I'm not saying we're the only problem 512 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:12,399 Speaker 1: in these countries, but are we contributing the problem in 513 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 1: each one of these nations where the bulk of the 514 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:16,679 Speaker 1: migrants are coming from one hundred percent? Yes, I just 515 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 1: think that a lot of these countries have agency. Nicaraguin's 516 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 1: Daniel Ortega, Like, we didn't create Daniel Ortega. He created 517 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 1: Daniel Ortega. Like they look, there are many countries in 518 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:28,199 Speaker 1: Central America which are doing fine, Costa Rica and many others. 519 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:31,680 Speaker 1: It's not like a complete cause on behalf of the US. 520 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:33,960 Speaker 1: They happen to be benefited by the fact that they 521 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 1: can march here from across Mexico, which I don't think 522 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:39,159 Speaker 1: is fair. Actually, if you think about the rest of 523 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 1: the country, I just look, this is the difference of opinion. 524 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:42,959 Speaker 1: I don't think you have a right to come here, 525 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 1: and under some of the season asylum standards they're absurd. 526 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 1: Like if somebody says they're fleeing domestic violence. Look, I 527 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:51,199 Speaker 1: have a deep sympathy with anybody's fleeing domestic violence. That 528 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:53,080 Speaker 1: doesn't mean you get to come to the United States. 529 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 1: There's a billion people on earth who are suffering domestic violence. 530 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 1: By one standard from the Human Rights Campaign, you can 531 00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:00,399 Speaker 1: allow a billion people. But do you agree here there 532 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:03,159 Speaker 1: are some asylum claims that are justified. For example, you 533 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 1: brought up Daniel Ortega, who is known to persecute his 534 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:09,360 Speaker 1: political enemies. Okay, his political enemy, sure, But if you're 535 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:12,640 Speaker 1: an average, average economic migrant, maybe And then look, even 536 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,760 Speaker 1: by the core, I don't deny that there are a 537 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:19,800 Speaker 1: lot of people and human traffickers who exploit the fact 538 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,480 Speaker 1: that we have these massive backlocks in the system and 539 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:25,119 Speaker 1: bring people here basically on the promise that you're basically 540 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 1: going to get to stay. You just have to say 541 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:28,880 Speaker 1: the magic words, you're gonna get to stay. There are 542 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:32,639 Speaker 1: two ways you solve that, Because people do have a 543 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 1: right when they have legitimate asylum claims based on our 544 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:39,400 Speaker 1: law and international law, they have a right to make 545 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:43,400 Speaker 1: those claims and have them adjudicated. There are two core 546 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 1: issues here. At number one, the way that we are 547 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:49,200 Speaker 1: screwing over these countries ourselves and making it more likely 548 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:51,239 Speaker 1: that you have more migrant flows. And again you can 549 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 1: look at the four countries where most migrants are coming 550 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:55,840 Speaker 1: from and see how much of a direct impact we 551 00:27:55,920 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 1: ultimately have. And two, if you end this back law, 552 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:03,359 Speaker 1: which I know you also support, then you get rid 553 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 1: of this effective loophole that enables people who don't have 554 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 1: justifiable asylum claims to come here and feel like they're 555 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 1: going to be able to stay in Definitely, to me, 556 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:16,119 Speaker 1: that seems like the two core issues. And you know, 557 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:18,720 Speaker 1: I'm sure there are plenty of Democrats who are bad 558 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 1: faith on this this Republicans certainly aren't interested in solving 559 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:24,200 Speaker 1: the problem, and so you end up with a disgusting 560 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:27,960 Speaker 1: humanitarian disaster like what the Biden administration. As a way, 561 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 1: I can agree that it's getting work to anybody. I mean, 562 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:32,399 Speaker 1: I look, do I have sympathy for poor people in 563 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:34,680 Speaker 1: another country who say, hey, if you pay fifty thousand bucks, 564 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:36,159 Speaker 1: it can get you to America. Like, yeah, I have 565 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:37,960 Speaker 1: a lot of sympathy. My parents came here to this 566 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:42,040 Speaker 1: country for for that, for very similar reasons for economic opportunity. 567 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:44,760 Speaker 1: I get it. What I'm saying is the system has 568 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 1: to be actual, the system has to have some merit 569 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,080 Speaker 1: or And actually, what you're seeing is that you have 570 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 1: a deep suspicion of many people, including myself, of the 571 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 1: entire immigration system, because I think it's being made a 572 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:59,320 Speaker 1: mockery of over the last twenty years, specifically with some 573 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 1: of these policies. And I do want to say, Cristal, 574 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 1: I hate to say it, but I do think a 575 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 1: lot of people like the fact that millions of people 576 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 1: are coming here illegally, because once you're here, we all 577 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 1: know how difficult it is to get them out, and 578 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 1: they want to legalize them. And I think they want 579 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:11,960 Speaker 1: to get them to vote. And I'm not saying this 580 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 1: in a conspiratorial like racial way. I'm saying I think 581 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 1: that they like the fact that people are coming here. 582 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 1: They have the entire you know, like, oh, immigrants, sir, 583 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 1: the people who have more children. So actually, this is 584 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:24,760 Speaker 1: the way that we have to solve our demographic process. 585 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:27,040 Speaker 1: I think there's some truth to that, but look, I 586 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 1: mean the truth is that they are coming here. I 587 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:33,240 Speaker 1: do think that that is because you ultimately, I mean, 588 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 1: the people who have really actually tried to come some 589 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:40,480 Speaker 1: sort of immigration deal, which always includes more border enforcement 590 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 1: and more border patrol, have been Democrats. I mean, they 591 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:45,840 Speaker 1: have been the ones who have actually offered some even 592 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 1: Joe Biden offered some sort of package of here's how 593 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:51,840 Speaker 1: we're going to deal with this issue ultimately. And you know, 594 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 1: there is no interest from Republicans in ultimately solving this problem. 595 00:29:56,760 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 1: So I'm not washing Democrats' hands of culpability, but I 596 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,240 Speaker 1: do think it's conspiratorial, this idea that they just want 597 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 1: to like ship in a bunch of illegals and make 598 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:08,240 Speaker 1: them vote for Democrats. Latinos are not even voting for Democrats, 599 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:12,800 Speaker 1: like overwhelmingly anymore. So the you know, racial demographic argument 600 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:14,600 Speaker 1: here doesn't even really add up. And I don't even 601 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:16,400 Speaker 1: care about the racial part. What I'm really saying is 602 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:17,959 Speaker 1: that I think there's a lot of people who are 603 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:20,000 Speaker 1: very comfortable with the fact that millions of people get 604 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:22,040 Speaker 1: to come here illegally, and they are very okay with 605 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 1: I mean, look, non starter for every single democratic immigration 606 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:29,200 Speaker 1: It's comprehensive immigration reform, which effectively means every single person 607 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 1: who's here illegally gets to stay and becomes a citizen. 608 00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:33,960 Speaker 1: That's who I have a big problem with that. Who 609 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 1: voted ultimately for more judges to adjudicate these claims. I mean, 610 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:43,000 Speaker 1: this is actually something that the Biden administration was pushing. 611 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:46,720 Speaker 1: So again, the thing that leads to people staying here 612 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 1: so long under the system is this backlog that should 613 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 1: be something everyone could agree on to ultimately solve it. 614 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 1: But I see zero political interest ultimately in resolving the issue. 615 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:02,720 Speaker 1: All right, sago were you looking at it? Well? About 616 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 1: a year ago before times, before the Russian invasion of Ukraine, 617 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,520 Speaker 1: the biggest story, one of the biggest in the country 618 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:12,400 Speaker 1: was the Canadian Freedom protesters and the government's response. The 619 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 1: response included the smearing them as racist, financial warfare, including 620 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 1: the closure of their bank accounts, seizing cryptocurrency donations, the 621 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:23,680 Speaker 1: implementation of the most Chinese style social credit course system 622 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 1: that we have seen in the West, especially since Australia's 623 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 1: response to the coronavirus. This story mattered for many reasons. 624 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:33,920 Speaker 1: First and foremost is it's Canada. The whole thing is 625 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:36,640 Speaker 1: that they're nice, But the real point was it's real 626 00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 1: close to home. We have a lot in common, and 627 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 1: if it can happen there, how soon can it happen here. 628 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:44,040 Speaker 1: That's why what's happening right now with author Jordan Peterson 629 00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:46,800 Speaker 1: of The Daily Wire is actually crazy because it's happening 630 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:49,200 Speaker 1: in Canada in a system that could easily rear its 631 00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:52,520 Speaker 1: ugly head here in the US very soon. The Ontario 632 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:55,960 Speaker 1: College of Psychologists, which is the regulatory body through which 633 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:59,320 Speaker 1: the profession of psychology is licensed, is currently mandating that 634 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:02,720 Speaker 1: Petersons reject himself to a literal re education course in 635 00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:08,600 Speaker 1: social media communications after a quote investigation into his behavior. Peterson, luckily, 636 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:11,600 Speaker 1: I guess for our sakes, actually uploaded the entire complaint 637 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:15,520 Speaker 1: against him, since deleting it. Though so called transgressions are reviewed, 638 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:18,800 Speaker 1: and if you review them, they're crazy. The first allegation 639 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 1: is that Peterson made a joke about suicide directed at 640 00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:24,400 Speaker 1: someone on Twitter. The exact incidents right in front of 641 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:27,480 Speaker 1: you was an anonymous tweeter raising a concern about overpopulation, 642 00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:29,880 Speaker 1: to which he replied, quote, you're free to leave at 643 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:32,080 Speaker 1: any point. Frankly, not even that good of a joke. 644 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,520 Speaker 1: But I guess if you're real, is it really telling 645 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:37,320 Speaker 1: someone to kill themselves? Like? Come on? The second is 646 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:40,640 Speaker 1: even more absurd an allegation that Peterson undermined the ability 647 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:45,360 Speaker 1: for psychologists to encourage children be removed by their parents. However, specifically, 648 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:49,560 Speaker 1: he was criticizing the Canadian government's attempts to forcibly remove 649 00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:52,840 Speaker 1: children from the Freedom protesters area. The exact tweet is 650 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,120 Speaker 1: in front of you right now. It's a statement of 651 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:59,200 Speaker 1: opinion against the exact policy in this instance or against 652 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 1: the practice in general. Asked that question. It is obviously 653 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:05,280 Speaker 1: a disagreement in policy. In no way does it imply 654 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:08,960 Speaker 1: that sometimes not appropriate to remove children from the care 655 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,400 Speaker 1: of parents. Next up, and this is really not a joke, 656 00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:15,480 Speaker 1: is that Peterson violated the standards of the profession because 657 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:18,000 Speaker 1: he called a key AID to Justin Trudeau a quote 658 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:21,480 Speaker 1: prick and continued his criticism of the AID as corrupt. 659 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 1: He also called Trudeau a puppet. All of a tweets 660 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:28,280 Speaker 1: in question occurred during those Freedom protests. There are many 661 00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:32,720 Speaker 1: other complaints in the included against Peterson saying that including 662 00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:35,320 Speaker 1: him saying a plus size model was not beautiful. But 663 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:39,280 Speaker 1: the most egregious is this action against him for violating 664 00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:43,080 Speaker 1: the so called COVID misinformation policy. It included a direct 665 00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:46,520 Speaker 1: call for an end to COVID mandates on January twenty fourth, 666 00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:49,280 Speaker 1: twenty twenty two, and an end to mass mandates in 667 00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 1: lockdowns in December of twenty twenty one. Keep this in mind, 668 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:57,200 Speaker 1: this is months after the vaccine was rolled out, well 669 00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:00,240 Speaker 1: within the bounds of acceptable debate at the time. So 670 00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:01,960 Speaker 1: there you have it. I left out some of the 671 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:05,000 Speaker 1: most cringe complaints about him for misgendering individuals, but of 672 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,160 Speaker 1: course that makes an appearance in there as well. Take 673 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:10,080 Speaker 1: this in totality, what do we have? We have Peterson 674 00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:13,239 Speaker 1: having the temerity to express an opinion. Look, even if 675 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:15,479 Speaker 1: you don't like demand and think he is cringe, which 676 00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:18,720 Speaker 1: I very often do, why should any of it matter? 677 00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:23,319 Speaker 1: Why should the profession of psychology litigate literally any of this? 678 00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:26,360 Speaker 1: Because consider it the standards that they are setting. Having 679 00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:29,960 Speaker 1: political opinions against the Canadian establishment and against the COVID 680 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:34,520 Speaker 1: regime is a violation of the field of psychology itself. Furthermore, 681 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:37,480 Speaker 1: the actual sentence is even crazier than it sounds. Not 682 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:39,320 Speaker 1: only does he have to subject himself to quote re 683 00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:42,480 Speaker 1: education on social media, but there is no set number 684 00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:44,799 Speaker 1: of hours at his own expense. You have to take 685 00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:47,200 Speaker 1: as many hours as they see fit until he has 686 00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:50,279 Speaker 1: been sufficiently re educated. Almost out of nineteen eighty four. 687 00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:54,000 Speaker 1: It's an indeterminate sentence. Luckily Peterson, I guess seems like 688 00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:56,680 Speaker 1: he's doing fine. But what about people out there who 689 00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:59,240 Speaker 1: are not rich? How is this not a very chilling 690 00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:01,799 Speaker 1: warning to end anyone in the profession in all of 691 00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:04,640 Speaker 1: Canada keep your mouth shut about the regime or we 692 00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:08,480 Speaker 1: will come after you. Furthermore, consider this, how is this 693 00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:12,480 Speaker 1: not proceding itself a blow to science itself? How exactly 694 00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:15,400 Speaker 1: are people going to practice experiment determine what is the 695 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:17,760 Speaker 1: cutting edge in mental health if they are so cowd 696 00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:21,440 Speaker 1: they cannot express a contradictory opinion. Ask yourself if any 697 00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:24,879 Speaker 1: of the psychologists in Canada who pushed let's say SSRIs 698 00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:28,600 Speaker 1: on patients despite faulty and objectionable science, will be subject 699 00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:31,920 Speaker 1: to re education on that policy, or any psychologists who 700 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:35,400 Speaker 1: encourage cracking down on freedom protesters, or praise Justin Trudeau. 701 00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:38,239 Speaker 1: Think about the inverse. We now know that mass were 702 00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:42,480 Speaker 1: highly ineffective against omicron and mostly completely against COVID unless 703 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:45,920 Speaker 1: it was properly fitted n. Ninety five. Those aren't Why 704 00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:49,600 Speaker 1: aren't the psychologists who advocated for them in Canada guilty 705 00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:52,719 Speaker 1: then of spreading medical and misinformation. I don't even want 706 00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:55,040 Speaker 1: them to be re educated as satisfying. I guess as 707 00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:57,759 Speaker 1: it would be, because the profession of psychology should be 708 00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:01,120 Speaker 1: focused on psychology. If they happen to have opinions elsewhere, 709 00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:03,000 Speaker 1: so be it. That's what it means to be a 710 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,600 Speaker 1: citizen in a supposedly free country. And don't think this 711 00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:08,480 Speaker 1: can happen here. Already the American Academy of Pediatrics the 712 00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:11,839 Speaker 1: American Medical Association are singing the same tune on gender ideology. 713 00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:14,520 Speaker 1: It probably won't be long till this exact same type 714 00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:18,400 Speaker 1: of occupational censorship worms its way into America. From medicine, 715 00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:22,040 Speaker 1: the bar Association, and law many areas of American life. 716 00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:26,200 Speaker 1: Ideological takeover of higher institution is rupturing trust and will 717 00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:30,360 Speaker 1: have actually the opposite intended effect. Ask yourself, after two years, 718 00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:33,200 Speaker 1: do you trust the science more or do you distrust 719 00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:35,480 Speaker 1: it more than ever? I know which camp I fall in. 720 00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:38,480 Speaker 1: I suspect there are millions more just like me, with 721 00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:41,840 Speaker 1: every more action just like this. That's like I said, Chrystal, 722 00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:45,520 Speaker 1: do I have behind Peterson? Cringe? Yeah, a lot, Actually 723 00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:48,880 Speaker 1: more than a lot. That said, read through the complaint, 724 00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:51,719 Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, I don't think the professional of psychology 725 00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:54,360 Speaker 1: has literally anything to do with any of this. And 726 00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:58,719 Speaker 1: actually the fact that they conclude him criticizing the government 727 00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:02,239 Speaker 1: minister as a rick yeah, I'm like that's I'm like, 728 00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:08,080 Speaker 1: you can't how It's like, wait, are does that mean 729 00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:12,640 Speaker 1: all psychologists in Canada must treat the with reverence like 730 00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:15,960 Speaker 1: key aids to the prime minister of the country. This 731 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,720 Speaker 1: is ludicrous, like we can't have and also is clearly 732 00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:21,000 Speaker 1: because they hate him. And actually, I think you whenever 733 00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:22,200 Speaker 1: I told you I was going to do this, you 734 00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:23,600 Speaker 1: were like, this is probably good for him. I was like, 735 00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:25,719 Speaker 1: that's the other thing I can't understand for them. I'm like, 736 00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:27,879 Speaker 1: do you guys not see how this was way better 737 00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:30,480 Speaker 1: for him and for his career in terms of the 738 00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:33,000 Speaker 1: striysand effects. So there's multiple angles of why this is 739 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:34,640 Speaker 1: a fight. I mean, I'm sure he loves to have. 740 00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:37,160 Speaker 1: He should have. I mean, I mean, and you see 741 00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:42,120 Speaker 1: in his Twitter timeline he's like leaning hard into it. Yeah, 742 00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:45,960 Speaker 1: There's there's a lot here about the like credentialed expert 743 00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:50,000 Speaker 1: class and like the liberal mindset and the things that 744 00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:53,759 Speaker 1: they decide to fixate on and try to enforce, and 745 00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:59,560 Speaker 1: like there's also something about the idea that the most 746 00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:02,160 Speaker 1: tragic blow you can strike to someone is like to 747 00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:05,440 Speaker 1: come after their credential. So well put Yeah, is another 748 00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:07,839 Speaker 1: piece of this because as I was listening to you, friend, 749 00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:10,360 Speaker 1: and like do I care about it? You know, like 750 00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:13,440 Speaker 1: this is Canadas, Jordan p is fine, you know, but 751 00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,520 Speaker 1: there is something revealing I think about the sort of 752 00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:19,720 Speaker 1: like liberal instinct and what they choose to get very 753 00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:23,760 Speaker 1: upset about and the way they choose to like wage 754 00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:26,960 Speaker 1: their political wars here. Well, I think it matters for 755 00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:29,160 Speaker 1: that reason, which is I'm looking at this tactic. I'm like, 756 00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:31,280 Speaker 1: well here we go. I'm like, if you're a doctor, 757 00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:33,920 Speaker 1: and let's say you were against lockdowns or something like that, 758 00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:36,319 Speaker 1: like how soon until you get a complaint filed against 759 00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:38,960 Speaker 1: you the American Medical Association? I mean already actually seeing 760 00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:42,239 Speaker 1: here if ironically filming in the Bar Association, the Bar 761 00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:45,960 Speaker 1: Association in Washington, and I believe in various other states 762 00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:50,200 Speaker 1: they've challenged, like some of Trump's lawyers as their actual 763 00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:53,680 Speaker 1: bar credentials for their ability to practice law. Maybe that's 764 00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:56,520 Speaker 1: correct or not. I honestly I can't tell you, because 765 00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:59,719 Speaker 1: you know, challenging somebody's reporting of aviators at the bar 766 00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:04,440 Speaker 1: are a real thing, yes, and any governing body that 767 00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:08,000 Speaker 1: is determining those things is going to be inherently subject 768 00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:11,439 Speaker 1: to human flaws and fallibility. But there should be some 769 00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:13,760 Speaker 1: sort of code of conduct, and the code of conduct 770 00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:15,880 Speaker 1: and the standard though, has to make sure that it 771 00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:19,359 Speaker 1: has to do with the actual professional like profession as 772 00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:22,920 Speaker 1: of an ability to provide services in an ethical and 773 00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:26,160 Speaker 1: like consistent way to your clients exactly, and not have 774 00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:28,880 Speaker 1: to do with let's say, political ideology. So when you 775 00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:33,080 Speaker 1: view it's almost like occupational licensing censorship, it's like, you know, 776 00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:35,920 Speaker 1: like you have to have a cosmopology to cosmotology degree. 777 00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:37,720 Speaker 1: I think to cut hair. I think in most states 778 00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:40,880 Speaker 1: libertarians are obsessed with Yeah, I know, but and you know, 779 00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:44,239 Speaker 1: I don't particularly care either way. Like imagine if you 780 00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:47,560 Speaker 1: had them litigating like what hair stylists were allowed to 781 00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:50,920 Speaker 1: opine about or not, Like obviously that would be insane. 782 00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,239 Speaker 1: So anyway, I think it's important because a lot of 783 00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:54,960 Speaker 1: our life actually is run by a lot of these 784 00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:57,840 Speaker 1: licensing regimes that we really have no say over and 785 00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:00,239 Speaker 1: didn't really think about because they mostly never used do 786 00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:03,160 Speaker 1: this stuff. And it could be the next forefront in 787 00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:05,520 Speaker 1: a type of censorship. You know, the liberals are curious 788 00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:08,040 Speaker 1: when they come for your credentials. I hope they come 789 00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:13,319 Speaker 1: after microdentials. I actually love that a lot of big 790 00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:16,279 Speaker 1: questions about where exactly the economy is right now? Are 791 00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:18,960 Speaker 1: we headed to a recession? What is the Fed going 792 00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:21,160 Speaker 1: to do in twenty twenty three, and how is it 793 00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:24,359 Speaker 1: going to affect you? To answer hopefully some of these 794 00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:26,560 Speaker 1: questions and gain some insights that we have one of 795 00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:29,480 Speaker 1: our favorite gas professor Richard wolf He is a professor 796 00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:32,640 Speaker 1: of economics emeritus at the University of Massachusetts Amherst. He's 797 00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:35,640 Speaker 1: also founder of Democracy at Work and host of their 798 00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:38,799 Speaker 1: show Economic Update. His latest book is The Sickness is 799 00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:42,120 Speaker 1: the System When capitalism fails to save us from pandemics 800 00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:44,440 Speaker 1: or itself. It's always great to see Eezar good Cazar, 801 00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:48,680 Speaker 1: thank you glad to be here so hot off the presses. 802 00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:51,640 Speaker 1: We have a new inflation report that I wanted to 803 00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:53,520 Speaker 1: get you to react to, and I know you haven't 804 00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:55,279 Speaker 1: had a chance because it just came out to dig 805 00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:57,560 Speaker 1: into all of the details. But here are the headlines. 806 00:40:57,560 --> 00:40:59,680 Speaker 1: Is from the New York Times. They say the consumer 807 00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:02,200 Speaker 1: price index climb by six point five percent in the 808 00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:05,160 Speaker 1: year through last month. That's down from seven point one 809 00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:09,120 Speaker 1: percent in the November reading, as prices declined slightly on 810 00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:12,000 Speaker 1: a monthly basis. That annual inflation rate was the slowest 811 00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:15,400 Speaker 1: since October twenty twenty one, and they attribute that to 812 00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:19,680 Speaker 1: a drop in gas prices and also airfares. They go 813 00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:22,319 Speaker 1: on to say that the economists and FED officials are 814 00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:25,720 Speaker 1: more specifically focused on a so called core inflation measure, 815 00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:27,960 Speaker 1: which removes food and fuel prices to get a sense 816 00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:30,719 Speaker 1: of underlying price trends. Less good news there. They say 817 00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:33,280 Speaker 1: that measure climb by five point seven percent in December 818 00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:35,920 Speaker 1: from a year earlier, compared with six percent previously and 819 00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:39,719 Speaker 1: in line with what forecasters had expected. So can you 820 00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:42,759 Speaker 1: just explain that for our viewers a little bit in 821 00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:46,440 Speaker 1: non economists speak, and what you make of that latest report. 822 00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:51,160 Speaker 1: Glad to do so and non economists speak, and that's 823 00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:54,239 Speaker 1: certainly the better way to go, even for the economists, 824 00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:57,799 Speaker 1: if I'm going to be honest. What these numbers tell 825 00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:02,680 Speaker 1: us is that the inflation houry economy is suffering slightly 826 00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:07,319 Speaker 1: diminished over the last month. Prices are still going up, 827 00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:10,799 Speaker 1: which means we have an inflation and they're going up 828 00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:14,520 Speaker 1: in historic terms, much higher than they did for the 829 00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:18,520 Speaker 1: last thirty years, but not as high as they were 830 00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:22,399 Speaker 1: rising in the previous months. So it isn't that we're 831 00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:26,080 Speaker 1: in a deflation. Prices are not coming down, it's that 832 00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:30,200 Speaker 1: they're not going up quite as quickly as they did before. 833 00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:34,799 Speaker 1: But the sad news wrapped up with that is that wages, 834 00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:38,960 Speaker 1: which we're going up, not as fast as prices, not 835 00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:43,279 Speaker 1: even close, but those are in even worse shape. That is, 836 00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:46,799 Speaker 1: they are not catching up. In fact, they are shrinking 837 00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:51,080 Speaker 1: even relative to the diminished rise in prices. So if 838 00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:54,759 Speaker 1: you're thinking about what this means for the average American 839 00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:59,239 Speaker 1: consumer going to the supermarket or the department store, the 840 00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:02,200 Speaker 1: situation and is no better than it has been in 841 00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:06,279 Speaker 1: recent months. In other words, your ability to buy is 842 00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:10,080 Speaker 1: not rising as fast as the price is, and therefore 843 00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:15,319 Speaker 1: what you can afford to actually consume keeps shrinking. Got it? 844 00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:17,200 Speaker 1: And professor, you know, in the context of everything we 845 00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:19,200 Speaker 1: wanted to discuss today, just a broader check in with 846 00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:21,440 Speaker 1: the economy, how do you look at it broadly in 847 00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:25,200 Speaker 1: terms of the outlook for the next year or so. Well, 848 00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:27,640 Speaker 1: I'm afraid the problem is, and it comes right out 849 00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:31,800 Speaker 1: of these numbers, that what we're seeing is a slow, 850 00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:37,880 Speaker 1: painful reduction in the inflation, far less than what people 851 00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:41,560 Speaker 1: need if their standard of living is to improve, and 852 00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:46,360 Speaker 1: we're paying the price for that modest improvement by laying 853 00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:50,680 Speaker 1: off workers in large numbers, by a recession that we're 854 00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:55,400 Speaker 1: either in or coming close to. There's virtual unanimity in 855 00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:59,279 Speaker 1: the financial press, left, right and center about a recession 856 00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:03,359 Speaker 1: this year. The only real debate is how soon will 857 00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:06,560 Speaker 1: we get, how bad will it be, and how long 858 00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:10,719 Speaker 1: will it last? So we're paying a heavy price. It's 859 00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:14,759 Speaker 1: a little bit like noticing in those numbers that airline 860 00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:20,000 Speaker 1: prices have slightly diminished their increase. They've been zooming up. 861 00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:24,000 Speaker 1: And the beauty of the story is the service we're 862 00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:27,960 Speaker 1: getting from the airlines is laughable. I'm trying to be 863 00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:32,200 Speaker 1: polite literally over the last few days. So, yeah, the 864 00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:35,600 Speaker 1: price isn't going up, but what you're getting for what 865 00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:39,879 Speaker 1: you're paying is shrinking really seriously, and I think that's 866 00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:43,040 Speaker 1: a general prediction for where we're going. We have not 867 00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:47,799 Speaker 1: solved the underlying problems of this economy are levels of 868 00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:52,600 Speaker 1: debt government, corporate and individual are higher than ever and 869 00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:57,840 Speaker 1: rising very fast. The inflation means people's income isn't enough, 870 00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:00,920 Speaker 1: so they're going out on a limb again using their 871 00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:04,479 Speaker 1: credit cards and every other way of getting credit. That's 872 00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:08,320 Speaker 1: a very dangerous story. Has been the cause of trouble 873 00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:13,080 Speaker 1: twice in this new century and is building up again now. 874 00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:16,440 Speaker 1: There ought to be a lot more concern and I 875 00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:20,560 Speaker 1: suspect there would be, except the folks in charge always 876 00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:24,200 Speaker 1: have a hard time admitting to economic problems and so 877 00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:27,560 Speaker 1: paint a very rosy picture. I'm not among them, and 878 00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:31,480 Speaker 1: I tell you most of my colleagues, even though that's unusual, 879 00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:35,200 Speaker 1: agree with me on this subject. Yeah. One of the 880 00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:39,879 Speaker 1: big heavyweights in terms of neoliberal economists Larry Summers, who 881 00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:43,240 Speaker 1: is former Treasury Secretary and served in other high level positions. 882 00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:46,799 Speaker 1: In terms of advising presidents on the economy took some 883 00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:51,239 Speaker 1: time out from his luxury tropical vacation to call explicitly 884 00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:54,719 Speaker 1: for higher unemployment. Let's take a listen to that, and 885 00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:56,400 Speaker 1: I want to get your reaction. On the other side. 886 00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:59,960 Speaker 1: I've been speaking in a different way about the thing 887 00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:04,359 Speaker 1: in the last couple of months that I had been before, 888 00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:09,800 Speaker 1: and that's because, for whatever reason, they have come around 889 00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:13,680 Speaker 1: to views quite close to mine. They think inflation is 890 00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:18,600 Speaker 1: the primary concern. They explicitly recognize that there's going to 891 00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:24,080 Speaker 1: need to be increases in unemployment to contain inflation. What 892 00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:28,160 Speaker 1: do you make a remark like that, professor, Well, to 893 00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:32,880 Speaker 1: be honest with you, I'm outraged. I find this a 894 00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:39,080 Speaker 1: level of relaxed calm about wrecking people's lives. Millions of 895 00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:42,240 Speaker 1: people to be unemployed, because that's what we're talking about, 896 00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:46,360 Speaker 1: given the size of our country, millions of people losing 897 00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:49,480 Speaker 1: their jobs or losing hours if they have the kind 898 00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:52,880 Speaker 1: of jobs that vary that way. That's an enormous burden 899 00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:57,040 Speaker 1: to put on them, on their families, on the communities 900 00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:59,800 Speaker 1: they live in that depend on their ability to spend 901 00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:05,239 Speaker 1: all of that. In a breezy conversation made worse by 902 00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:08,440 Speaker 1: the fact, and this is crucial, that it isn't true 903 00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:12,920 Speaker 1: raising interest rates and squashing down an economy by doing 904 00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:17,239 Speaker 1: that isn't the only way to deal with an inflation. 905 00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:20,880 Speaker 1: And I won't even bother you with reminding everyone that 906 00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:24,680 Speaker 1: the reason we created the Federal Reserve over one hundred 907 00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:29,040 Speaker 1: years ago was to prevent inflation, not to come in 908 00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:32,480 Speaker 1: after it's done its horrible work and fix it, but 909 00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:35,880 Speaker 1: to prevent it because it's such a burden. They failed 910 00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:38,000 Speaker 1: at doing that, and there ought to be a bit 911 00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:41,920 Speaker 1: more of an acknowledgment and admission of the failure. Having 912 00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:45,520 Speaker 1: said it, let me remind everyone there are other ways 913 00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:48,400 Speaker 1: of dealing with an inflation. I'm going to give you 914 00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:53,280 Speaker 1: two quick examples. Number one, nineteen seventy one, Richard Nixon, 915 00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:57,279 Speaker 1: hardly a progressive in the office of president, goes on 916 00:47:57,400 --> 00:48:00,640 Speaker 1: radio television August fifteenth, and he's said, we have a 917 00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:04,200 Speaker 1: terrible inflation, which they did at that time, and I'm 918 00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:07,120 Speaker 1: going to do something about it right away, which he did. 919 00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:11,960 Speaker 1: He declared the following, as of tomorrow morning, any business 920 00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:15,319 Speaker 1: that raises the price of anything, you're going to get 921 00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:19,520 Speaker 1: a visit from government officials, and they're going to arrest 922 00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:22,560 Speaker 1: you and throw you in jail. That's how we're going 923 00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:25,440 Speaker 1: to stop the rise in prices. And to be fair, 924 00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:29,680 Speaker 1: he said, the same applies to unions or workers who 925 00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:33,080 Speaker 1: push for higher wages. We will do the same. This 926 00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:36,799 Speaker 1: policy is called, and it was called this then, a 927 00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:41,040 Speaker 1: wage price freeze, because literally that's what it does. It 928 00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:45,080 Speaker 1: was passed, signed by the president. Ninety days was the 929 00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:48,440 Speaker 1: first length of it. It was extended, and you know why. 930 00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:51,839 Speaker 1: It stopped the inflation on a dime. Does that kind 931 00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:55,480 Speaker 1: of policy have problems? Sure, but every policy to deal 932 00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:59,600 Speaker 1: with the failure of an inflation has its costs, its risks, 933 00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:03,120 Speaker 1: and it's problems. But to deal with this as if 934 00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:04,799 Speaker 1: there were nothing other than the for us to do 935 00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:08,360 Speaker 1: than to schedule a recession for millions of people, is 936 00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:12,760 Speaker 1: not only unfair and unjust. It's not a look together, honest. 937 00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:16,920 Speaker 1: And mister Summers, who's a colleague of mine, he knows 938 00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:20,680 Speaker 1: this very well. Wow. I think that is all very 939 00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:24,040 Speaker 1: well said. So great to have your expertise on these matters, professor. 940 00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:25,640 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for taking some time with us. 941 00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:28,480 Speaker 1: Thank you, sir, my pleasure, and thanks for covering it 942 00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:30,560 Speaker 1: in an open way. It's really a big help to 943 00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:33,480 Speaker 1: the national conversation. A little update for everybody on the 944 00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:36,439 Speaker 1: Trump NFTs. As hilarious as the video was, I saw 945 00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:39,759 Speaker 1: some justification after criticizing a crystal, people said, hey, maybe 946 00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:41,640 Speaker 1: people bought it not because they're sick of fance, but 947 00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:44,719 Speaker 1: because it's a great investment. Well let's go and put 948 00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:46,719 Speaker 1: the sub fare really on the screen. Yes, some people, 949 00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:50,880 Speaker 1: that's it turns out they have lost seventy five percent 950 00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:54,279 Speaker 1: of their value in just a single week after the 951 00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:58,280 Speaker 1: price is initially soared online after Trump promoted his quote 952 00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:01,839 Speaker 1: one of a kind asset that were sold at one 953 00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:04,279 Speaker 1: point they were actually selling for one thousand dollars, so 954 00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:07,520 Speaker 1: after that has now dropped to two hundred and eighty dollars. 955 00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:10,600 Speaker 1: So that is where the price decline has remained. The 956 00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:14,000 Speaker 1: stunning did guys, Yeah, don't by they did see that. 957 00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:17,080 Speaker 1: If you guys want to go ahead promote that. I 958 00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:20,920 Speaker 1: anticipated being worth about zero in about a year, like 959 00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:24,160 Speaker 1: many of the other hype NFTs that all happened. And 960 00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:28,440 Speaker 1: look just broadly, it's just disgusting because he's milking his 961 00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:31,480 Speaker 1: most ardent supporters, including boomers, by the way, who he 962 00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:34,120 Speaker 1: sent all of that out to who probably had no 963 00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:36,120 Speaker 1: idea and probably had even trouble signing up for an 964 00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:39,640 Speaker 1: OpenSea account for literally millions of dollars. Ostensibly the man 965 00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:42,279 Speaker 1: is a billionaire, Like, why does he need more? It's 966 00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:44,600 Speaker 1: just the worst way actually to make money when you're 967 00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:47,319 Speaker 1: at that level. Total petty cash grab, that's all it is. 968 00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:50,160 Speaker 1: These the values you know, now that they've been sold off, 969 00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:53,280 Speaker 1: have plummeted, So the people who forked down that cash 970 00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:55,480 Speaker 1: are holding the bag. But don't worry. Donald Trump got 971 00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:57,920 Speaker 1: his and that's ultimately what this was all about. And 972 00:50:58,040 --> 00:50:59,960 Speaker 1: just so you guys remember how this all went down, 973 00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:04,279 Speaker 1: The man since he announced for president, has basically done nothing. Yes, 974 00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:07,640 Speaker 1: and then he teases this whole like big announcement and 975 00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:10,000 Speaker 1: we're like, oh boy, maybe he's like actually going to 976 00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:12,840 Speaker 1: campaign and pretend like he wants to be president again. 977 00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:16,920 Speaker 1: And no, just just another cash grab from Trump to 978 00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:20,759 Speaker 1: grift and milk as much as he can off of 979 00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:23,799 Speaker 1: his supporters. Yeah, it's really gross. I'm not kidding though 980 00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:26,399 Speaker 1: when I said that. Whenever I was criticizing it, people 981 00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:28,239 Speaker 1: were like, well, maybe it was a good investment. Maybe 982 00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:31,120 Speaker 1: people thought it was you know, funny, Like look, it's 983 00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:35,680 Speaker 1: very clear what happened here. He duped his most ardent supporters, 984 00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:37,680 Speaker 1: not even duped, I mean, he just got them to 985 00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:39,319 Speaker 1: think that they were supporting him. Some of them might 986 00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:41,839 Speaker 1: have even thought, frankly, that it was a campaign thing. 987 00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:44,920 Speaker 1: And it's not just Trump. His wife Milania Trump has 988 00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:50,719 Speaker 1: long been selling NFTs, which also criticized criticized by the way. So, 989 00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:52,480 Speaker 1: I mean that's the other thing is, you know, he 990 00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:56,000 Speaker 1: knows that this is a scam. Right, it's crazy. The 991 00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:58,719 Speaker 1: entire thing really is nuts. And so look to those 992 00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:01,680 Speaker 1: of you bought in guests, congratulations, all right, we'll see 993 00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:02,000 Speaker 1: you later.