1 00:00:01,520 --> 00:00:02,840 Speaker 1: I don't know if I should if I should just 2 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 1: start weeping. I mean, I think we should leave this. 3 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 1: I think this is how the show. I think that 4 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:11,960 Speaker 1: was the intro of the show. I don't know if 5 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 1: I should cry or celebrate. But y'all, we do know 6 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:16,960 Speaker 1: that the season is in full swing. At least the 7 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:20,119 Speaker 1: number one pick, Paulo ban Caro, made a statement in 8 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 1: his debut. He looks looks solid. The Pelicans have already 9 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 1: taken flight, as it were, and Dame time is back, 10 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 1: and we're joined by none other. Because it be me, me, Me, 11 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 1: and Timothy Bella on today's episode, I'm Miles Great, and 12 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:42,840 Speaker 1: I'm Jack O'Brien, and this is Miles and Jack got made. 13 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:47,559 Speaker 1: I wonder I was seas basketball fans are appreciating my 14 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:51,200 Speaker 1: sixty minutes impression because I do feel like I'm nailing 15 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 1: my Leslie Stall and I think I was nailing my 16 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 1: Missy Elliott. I be me, Me, Me and Timothy reference 17 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 1: to Timberland. But anyway, with the real Timothy that we 18 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:05,480 Speaker 1: are with is the wonderful reporter, editor, and author Timothy 19 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 1: Bella or Tim Can we call you Tim Timothy? Of course, 20 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 1: Tim's great guys and I have to say that is 21 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:17,479 Speaker 1: the best intro I've ever gotten, so certainly appreciate that. Yes, yeah, 22 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 1: we're the best this. I don't know if did they 23 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 1: not tell you that ahead of joining were the we're 24 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 1: the best podcast in the past space. Yeah, yes, yes, sorry, 25 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 1: everybody got I think he likes the effect produced when 26 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 1: people just find out as they're recording the podcast, we're 27 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:37,680 Speaker 1: the best of this. But um, yeah, so it's great 28 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 1: to have you. You got a new book which is exciting. 29 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 1: Barkley a biography, that's what it's called. Yeah, yeah, it 30 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 1: wasn't a description, that's the actual title. Um, but we're 31 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 1: gonna dig into that in the second of three quarters 32 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 1: that we that we do on this show. We call 33 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 1: him periods, three of them like hockey Star whatever. It's 34 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 1: the NBA show, and we we we do three periods. Um, 35 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 1: but we got to get into I am both crying 36 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 1: from you know, disappointment that my sixers got off to 37 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 1: a rocky start and Joyce and I don't know which 38 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 1: is which at sometimes it's just swinging back and forth. 39 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 1: But it's so good to have basketball back. And there 40 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:23,079 Speaker 1: are those players, the returning players that we were excited 41 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 1: about who have looked amazing your zions, Williamson, and then 42 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 1: there's ones I forgot about, Man, I forgot about damn, 43 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 1: you know, like I forgot about job. No, no, no, 44 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 1: And we're going to talk about job because I mean 45 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 1: that that's never too far from our mind, uh, Timothy, 46 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:41,919 Speaker 1: for it to fill you. And we did do our 47 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 1: entire first episode just about John Morant because we were exported. Yeah. Yeah, 48 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:51,360 Speaker 1: he's worth it. He killed my rockets, dropt like forty 49 00:02:51,400 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 1: eight on him, like of course. Sorry. He's also shooting 50 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 1: six from the three this season, which, like if he's 51 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 1: already unstoppable in terms of like getting by you, getting 52 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 1: where he wants and just like burying a shot or 53 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 1: a image defining dunk um over your head. But now 54 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 1: if if he's I don't I'm not an analytics guy. 55 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say though, I don't expect him to stay 56 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 1: shooting six from three for the rest of the season. Um, 57 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 1: but man, he looks good, so of course we will 58 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 1: just do our requisite owed to John Morant. But I 59 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 1: mean we're doing it right now. Yeah, I mean, Timothy, 60 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 1: what what what? What's getting you excited so far? Yeah? Honestly, 61 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 1: guys like I mentioned I'm a packastan, so I mean 62 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 1: there's there's some exciting things, but still I and they 63 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 1: want the last night was like damn it winning, Um, 64 00:03:56,320 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 1: so you're getting excited about winding um yeah yeah, and 65 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 1: health you're rocking your tankini. Yeah, I had to do it. 66 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 1: Besides that, though, I'm still even though he left, I'm 67 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 1: still a very big James Harden fan and honstantly, I 68 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:18,359 Speaker 1: just love seeing him just come back to the level 69 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:22,679 Speaker 1: that he was in Houston, even if it's only for 70 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:25,480 Speaker 1: a few games. Who knows if it's actually gonna last. 71 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:29,799 Speaker 1: About For me, I've always been a hard and backer, 72 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:34,480 Speaker 1: even in his darkest darkest days, So like it's cool 73 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:37,840 Speaker 1: seeing him just gotta go off, um and should It's 74 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 1: just be the Jimmy Jam jam too. I remember in Houston, like, 75 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 1: oh boy, he's dropping dudes, like he's doing everything. Yeah. Yeah. 76 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 1: It does feel like there's some ingredients there for the 77 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 1: Sixers that they just need to like kind of make 78 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 1: work together. And I truly believe that they will get 79 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:59,840 Speaker 1: back to the second round of the playoffs and get 80 00:04:59,839 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 1: on ceremoniously. They're rightful place the second round. That's they 81 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 1: have a Gravitational. Yeah, the second round second. Yeah, you know, 82 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 1: everybody talks about Lebron getting to the finals all those 83 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 1: years in a row. I think by the time, by 84 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 1: the end of this run, people are gonna be like 85 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 1: the sixers, Man, what what a run they had of 86 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 1: second second round exits consistent? If anything, it's like the 87 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:33,160 Speaker 1: saddest version of a turner. Stay right, top eight, you're 88 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:38,840 Speaker 1: really definitely top eight. Um. Yeah, let's talk polo though. 89 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:42,039 Speaker 1: I mean we we saw flashes of it in the 90 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:46,159 Speaker 1: Summer League. I think everybody likes to throw cold water 91 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:49,280 Speaker 1: anytime I get too excited about the Summer League, as 92 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 1: I want to do. But it was it was good 93 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 1: to see it in live NBA action. Putting up in 94 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 1: his debut game, first game and the n b A 95 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:01,279 Speaker 1: I feel like I was starting to play in the NBA, 96 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 1: my first game would be more of a you know, 97 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:08,239 Speaker 1: feeling it out situation, the first day, first day of college, 98 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 1: first day of college. You don't want to go too hard. 99 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:12,160 Speaker 1: You don't want to show them all your all your 100 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 1: cards and not gonna raise your hand to answer every question. Yeah, 101 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:17,360 Speaker 1: maybe this is a critique, Palo. Maybe don't don't put 102 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 1: it all out there right away. But this man put 103 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 1: up twenty seven nine boards, five assists, two blocks, first 104 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:27,720 Speaker 1: rookie to go five and five in a debut since 105 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 1: Lebron joined three other players to ever do five and 106 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 1: nine in their debut, along with Grant Hill, Willie Anderson 107 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:40,480 Speaker 1: and Harp Ron Harper. So, I don't know that this 108 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:44,720 Speaker 1: is gonna be exciting. The Orlando's uh, I think they 109 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 1: were they started going three, but they're just a lot 110 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 1: of fun to watch, and he's gonna be a lot 111 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 1: of fun to watch. He makes me sad at every 112 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 1: time if I see him, Because for Starry in March, 113 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 1: up until the NBA Draft, I was con fans he 114 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 1: was going to be a rocket, Like that was the 115 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:07,480 Speaker 1: guy I wanted. That's it. I don't care about the others. 116 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 1: And I was shocked if he was rejected third and 117 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 1: then what would kill me about our fourth draft? Um 118 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 1: My heart shattered at It's been a great year for me, 119 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 1: don't get me wrong, but that was definitely not my 120 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 1: best moment. Yeah, it's like it's tough because it was 121 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 1: one of those things where you're like, wait, everybody else 122 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 1: is wrong and I'm right, and then you find out, oh, 123 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 1: they were just lying to me. They're not wrong. They 124 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 1: knew he was the best player, yeah the whole time. 125 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 1: Super producer Jabari pointed out that this dunk that is 126 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 1: kind of the highlight, the de facto highlight that I 127 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 1: think people have seen from Paulo's first game, uh is 128 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 1: reminds me of Tom Chambers, which is for the old 129 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 1: heads who uh not like the old head NBA tape fans, 130 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 1: the old head video game players. If you remember the 131 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 1: game Bulls versus lakers Um, where each player had like 132 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:13,239 Speaker 1: a move that they could do and write like magic. 133 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 1: If you got magic going down the lane, he would 134 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 1: go behind his back and do like a little behind 135 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 1: the back scoop shot that was basically unstoppable once you 136 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 1: got to go, and it was like the Fatality and 137 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 1: Mortal Kombat. This dude completely re enacted the Tom Chambers 138 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 1: and and I think it's one of Tom chambers most 139 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:35,559 Speaker 1: famous dunks also, but it is like kind of a 140 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 1: one handed like he cocks it and puts it down 141 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 1: and then dunks over over somebody in a somewhat embarrassing fashion. 142 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 1: Carol's gonna take it, fly over the top of Joseph 143 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 1: and draw the foul. You don't put that on your 144 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 1: highlight reel. You didn't see it. You're gonna see a 145 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:02,079 Speaker 1: lot of this. It does seem like I'm just gonna 146 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 1: overcome this minor obstacle in my way kind of energy 147 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 1: where look, I get it, it's, uh, you're just skying 148 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:11,720 Speaker 1: over people. But I it is really nice to see 149 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 1: like the continuity from getting excited from his college performances, 150 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 1: uh preseason and now and just playing so man, just 151 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:23,680 Speaker 1: so like he's you can tell he's having fun and 152 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 1: he's so he's just aggressive. I just love to see 153 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 1: him just dunking it NonStop because you know, right now, 154 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 1: I'm I'm definitely shifting gears into more neutral territory to 155 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 1: to appreciate all the basketball bounty that is in front 156 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:40,680 Speaker 1: of me and not get involved into the tribalism of 157 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 1: just you know, supporting my one team beneath absolutely leading podcasters. 158 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 1: You know, we've had a lot of guests on him 159 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:53,840 Speaker 1: who who have been like, you know, I I remember 160 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 1: the day is when I was a fan. Now now 161 00:09:57,080 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 1: I'm like too much in it, too close to the game. 162 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 1: The I've I've had the fandom drilled out of me. Uh, 163 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 1: and now I'm just like a Socrates of basketball just 164 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:11,720 Speaker 1: standing back and like just seeing the matrix go by 165 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 1: and the Sixers the way the Sixers started the season. 166 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 1: And I'm not gonna speak for anybody else who might 167 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 1: co host this podcast with me, but looking at that 168 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:24,439 Speaker 1: outlook and being like, I think I'm gonna thinking there, yeah, 169 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 1: they got something. I'm no longer a fan of any 170 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 1: particular team. Yeah. One quick question. Do you think Holo 171 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 1: Conna hold off that Donk and Tom Chambers shorts though, 172 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 1: because the shorts were very different back in the day. Yeah? Yeah, 173 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 1: Oh man, that's a great question. Jordan's pool was my 174 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:51,440 Speaker 1: great hope for somebody who was going to because I remember, 175 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:54,720 Speaker 1: like when he was in college, he was wearing the 176 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 1: Stockton like nine eighties basketball shorts in college and then 177 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 1: he I think he's scam to the pressure. I don't 178 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 1: know if that's how how we put the tents that one, 179 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 1: but he yeah, it is now baby Shakespeare of basketball podcasting. Um, 180 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:16,960 Speaker 1: but you know now he has the tights underneath, and 181 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 1: it's just it's not as strong a statement when he 182 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:25,079 Speaker 1: goes out there in the short shorts, but it's there. 183 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 1: Somebody could come into the league rocking the shortest of shorts. 184 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:33,200 Speaker 1: And you know what this is to producer Jabari is asking, 185 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 1: is this our dumb recommendation of the week? Um? Tim, 186 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 1: We are in shorts ownership with the NBA, so they 187 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:41,080 Speaker 1: do have to listen to this. So this is where 188 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:44,439 Speaker 1: we seed them with incredibly stupid ideas. With that said, 189 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 1: in fashion, we're already embracing the short shorts again, you 190 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:50,080 Speaker 1: know what I mean, like for for swim trunks and 191 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 1: things like that, and I feel like, why not just 192 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 1: come out and show off your quads, you know what 193 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 1: I mean? Those professional athletes let the mesmerize the people 194 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 1: with those thighs. I saw Jalen Green in the last season. 195 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:08,839 Speaker 1: He was rocking on short shorts. Alright, cool, alright, Jalen 196 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 1: Green might be our and just slowly each game, just 197 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 1: keep taking him up a little bit, just the seat 198 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 1: just getting higher and higher until people are like, wait, 199 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 1: wait a second, like those is wearing volleyball cut off? 200 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 1: What are they doing? Think this actually keeping track of this? 201 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 1: There's got to be someone who's keeping track of like 202 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:34,200 Speaker 1: who wears very short shorts? League? Yeah, I mean, but yeah, 203 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:37,680 Speaker 1: somebody needs to take who's wearing short shorts in the 204 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:42,320 Speaker 1: league this week. Um, so this isn't necessarily a pitch 205 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:44,719 Speaker 1: for the NBA. Although Adam Silver, can you know, when 206 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 1: he's kicking it with Jalen Green, he could just be like, hey, 207 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 1: I heard a wild idea and actually, actually, you know what, 208 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:54,680 Speaker 1: Commissioner Silver, you can take it as your own. You 209 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 1: could say I had a while idea the other day. 210 00:12:57,559 --> 00:13:02,200 Speaker 1: I steal ideas from other podcasts all the time, So 211 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 1: just yeah, another thing. So I'd put Palo in the 212 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 1: category of like things we were appropriately excited about, right, 213 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 1: like we were talking about Pelicans. I think we were 214 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:18,840 Speaker 1: appropriately excited about. Although it is tough too, I know, 215 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 1: like as we're recording, having zion and ingroum out because 216 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 1: you're like, oh, that's the thing. We're just like healthy, healthy, healthy, 217 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 1: healthy man. When they when they had everybody going, Willie 218 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 1: Green was stirring the soup, making all the flavors work together. 219 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:37,679 Speaker 1: The play that got me most excited was actually the 220 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:41,840 Speaker 1: Herb Jones clothes out block. Yeah on Kevin Durant, like 221 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 1: a seven footer who has one of the highest releases 222 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 1: in the league, and he just came from the paint 223 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 1: and blocked it. It was pretty I mean, where did 224 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:53,320 Speaker 1: he take? I guess he's just that long, huh. Like 225 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:56,840 Speaker 1: It's not like he was really necessarily covering horizontal distance, 226 00:13:56,920 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 1: but just him closing out and getting vertical bowl. Yeah. 227 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 1: I couldn't believe like that it was blocked until I 228 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:07,200 Speaker 1: was like, oh wait, that was so short. Kevin Durant 229 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:12,960 Speaker 1: doesn't usually miss, but yeah, not like that. Yeah, Durant 230 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:17,560 Speaker 1: blocked away by her. You had to do hardy did 231 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 1: to block Kevin Durant jump shot. I just loved how 232 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 1: he didn't stop. He just went and he was in 233 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 1: full control and it just didn't care that, you know, 234 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 1: one of a dozen best players and the game's history 235 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 1: is putting up and shout at the quarter He's like, no, man, 236 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 1: I got this. Yeah. Yeah. That was the other thing 237 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 1: that made it kind of hard to catch at first, 238 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 1: because he wasn't like, oh my god, what did I 239 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 1: just like just what, puts his head into his hands 240 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 1: and starts weeping like I would have. He goes to 241 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 1: the ref He's like, can you can you stop the game? 242 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 1: Can I get the ball? Can I get the ball 243 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 1: real quick? Can I take that? Can we get a 244 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 1: new ball? I want to take home. I would have 245 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 1: appreciated that. Though Katie had a good block later in 246 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 1: the game, block brandon Ingram at the rim, which Katie 247 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 1: sneaky good shop blocker has been in the past. That 248 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 1: was one of those like Looney Tunes blocks where Ingram 249 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 1: goes up to hands like and I'm dunking, and then 250 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 1: when his hand sits in the rim, it's like, no, 251 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Kevin. Kevin holding the ball now rejected that, sir, 252 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but good luck to you. Zion looked good 253 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 1: when he was in there, and hopefully he's able to, 254 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 1: you know, bounce back from the contusion. But all right, 255 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 1: should should we take a break and then get to 256 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 1: the things we were probably underrating? Yes, I think we should. 257 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 1: All right, let's do that. We'll be right back. And 258 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 1: we're back. And we were underrating John Morant, even though 259 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:55,239 Speaker 1: we devoted a whole episode to him last season. Um, 260 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 1: it seems like it would be hard for us to 261 00:15:57,040 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 1: under age John Morant. No, not not at this point. 262 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 1: I say I was right about the Celtics. I thought 263 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 1: everybody was underrating how good the Celtics were gonna look 264 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 1: coming out of the gate. That Jayson Tatum was going 265 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 1: to be a legit m v P candidate, and uh 266 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 1: so I feel good about that. But jah, you know 267 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 1: with everybody like there was a lot of Sixers take 268 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 1: the Sixers might be the best team in the East. 269 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 1: Like there's just all these like fun takes. You know, people, 270 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 1: what what's gonna happen with the Lakers? Who's gonna the Grizzlies. Well, 271 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 1: they'll probably be about the same as last year, so 272 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 1: we can just move on. And John Moran was just 273 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 1: in the dark getting stronger. Yeah, who would have known? 274 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 1: Who could have known? Yeah, I mean there was another block. 275 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 1: It wasn't as good as the one where he just 276 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 1: like flew up and defied the laws of physics and 277 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 1: caught that layup in the ins, but it was it 278 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 1: was so he just he got he got up so high. 279 00:16:55,320 --> 00:17:05,439 Speaker 1: Should we should we play that clip? It sounds like 280 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:16,639 Speaker 1: wrestling coming the other way? I mean he Okay, I 281 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 1: gotta say I was saying this before, especially watching that 282 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 1: NETS game, It's like it's like Spider Man is playing 283 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:25,240 Speaker 1: on the court. Yeah, it is. Watching That's that is 284 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:29,240 Speaker 1: what he most evokes. That's that's a great evokes Spider 285 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 1: Man because in a way they're mortal beings moving at 286 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:36,879 Speaker 1: their normal pace, and he just has like this extra step, 287 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:40,119 Speaker 1: this little bit of bounce to everything. That ended that 288 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 1: like audacity to or audacity as we've trademarked it. Just 289 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:47,920 Speaker 1: taking certain shots going up for boards. You're like, bro, yours, 290 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 1: how tall are you? Sir? You know what? I forgot 291 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 1: your Spider Man? So Peter Jarker, keep doing money blocks 292 00:17:54,280 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 1: a shot. It's the audacity of Nope, yeah, thank you, yeah, yeah. 293 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 1: I couldn't stand the met Grosses for long time. I 294 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 1: just thought they were just flat out boar and then 295 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 1: here comes Spider Man in here, and I'm like, oh damn, 296 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 1: that's appointment point and viewing now just every night with him. 297 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 1: It's unreal. It's just a shot in the arms that 298 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:22,400 Speaker 1: the entire city and franchise right there. And he did 299 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 1: drop forty nine and thirty one minutes on your team. 300 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 1: So I guess we gotta ask you, how did it feel? 301 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 1: What it would it looked like from your vantage point. 302 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:35,160 Speaker 1: I was at a friend's wedding, so I was kind 303 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:39,639 Speaker 1: of the drunk, so I was like a five, right, 304 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 1: get another perspective. Yeah, I'm like, all right, that's probably 305 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 1: going to happen at at least another fifteen times to 306 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:52,480 Speaker 1: the Rockets this season. So if Traps once put Jaw 307 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:55,440 Speaker 1: a couple of times, but Jaw, I'm not going to 308 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 1: be shocked anymore. And the stroke looks smooth the like 309 00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:02,160 Speaker 1: he had a shot I think the nets of pool 310 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 1: within six with a minute left and the fourth and 311 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:07,359 Speaker 1: he had the ball at the top of the key. 312 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 1: And it wasn't like when when he was like hitting 313 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 1: threes last season where they were giving it to him 314 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 1: because they just didn't want him to like blow by them, 315 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:16,879 Speaker 1: get in the lane, like there's any thing you can 316 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:20,160 Speaker 1: do about that. But they were guarding him and he 317 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 1: was dribbling and like pulled up off the dribble and 318 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:27,159 Speaker 1: hit like a deep three like that was, you know, 319 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:31,160 Speaker 1: just ice cold and it was fun. Yeah, it looked 320 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 1: it just looked smooth, like this is supposed to be happening. Yeah, 321 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:38,879 Speaker 1: you always let him take that shot, right, yeah? Yeah, 322 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 1: not this season apparently it's like damn and then yeah, 323 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:45,359 Speaker 1: adding that to his game, now, what are you gonna do? 324 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 1: And k D who as we talked about on this 325 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:51,440 Speaker 1: show last year, Kevin Durant, he has a really good 326 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 1: eye for young players. He was on a podcast years 327 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 1: ago when Joe was still in college and they were like, 328 00:19:57,800 --> 00:19:59,439 Speaker 1: who do you who do you see out there? Like 329 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:01,359 Speaker 1: what do you think Zion, what do you think of? 330 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 1: And he was like, there's this guy from Murray State, 331 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:07,400 Speaker 1: John Morant. It was before he like kind of exploded 332 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 1: onto the scene in the n C Double A Tournament. 333 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:11,680 Speaker 1: He was like, keep an eye up for John Morant 334 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:16,120 Speaker 1: and he was right, and he he recently said ahead 335 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 1: of their game, he's the most marketable guy in our league, 336 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:21,399 Speaker 1: the face of our league going forward. So many kids 337 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 1: are inspired by what he does that is coming from 338 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:29,639 Speaker 1: the other like one of the other faces of the league. 339 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 1: So that's pretty cool. And then so one that I 340 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 1: think I I felt like I totally missed on in 341 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 1: the sense of just like things that I was excited 342 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 1: about going into the season. Damian Willard Dame time has returned. Um. 343 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:48,960 Speaker 1: This also reminded me because I always used the example 344 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:53,119 Speaker 1: of Clay As as like the most kind of locked 345 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 1: in and uncanny, like locked in shooting performance you've ever seen, 346 00:20:57,320 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 1: when like the ball, you know they're just throwing it 347 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 1: up in the you know, the balls going in like 348 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:03,960 Speaker 1: before the ball even leaves their hand. But I think 349 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 1: Dame has like the most times where I've just seen 350 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:11,639 Speaker 1: him do that where it's literally like Dame time and 351 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:14,119 Speaker 1: the game is over and there's nothing you can do 352 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 1: to stop what is happening to you. And he he is, 353 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 1: he's locked in this season. He looks awesome. He looks 354 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 1: so fast, his explosiveness is there. He's shooting threes at 355 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:31,680 Speaker 1: his you know, he he had an offshooting year, uh 356 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 1: last year, and you know he's he's just back and 357 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 1: looks amazing and it's like getting to the line at 358 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:41,359 Speaker 1: a record rate and just like doing all the things 359 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:45,680 Speaker 1: you would want. And the Portland Trailblazers are the only 360 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:48,880 Speaker 1: team in the West with a four no record, which 361 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 1: is pretty pretty wild and not not what a lot 362 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:55,680 Speaker 1: of people had coming into the season. Yeah, I mean 363 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 1: a lot of the a lot of the Blazers were 364 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:01,880 Speaker 1: looking good, you know, like Cam from Me, Anthony Simon's yeah, 365 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 1: and Jeremy Grant too. I was just like, oh, you 366 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 1: know that I watched that game the Lakers against him, 367 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:09,439 Speaker 1: was like, oh, yeah, there a lot of people are 368 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 1: doing pretty well right now. But yeah, Damian Lillard, I'm 369 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:16,120 Speaker 1: always just like, sir, why are you sold loyal? Yeah? 370 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:21,879 Speaker 1: Please please, either of you got the chance to see 371 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 1: his pregame shooting routine or anything, because I know everyone 372 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:32,720 Speaker 1: talks about step and it's incredible, but if you'd ever 373 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 1: get the chance, you just watched Dame's pregame routine. He 374 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:39,680 Speaker 1: just goes so hard and I feel like he shoots 375 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 1: from every possible spot on a court. He gets into 376 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 1: a real sweat ahead of time too. And I was 377 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 1: just in awe when I saw him. It's amazing. His 378 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 1: step back is so mean, this step up violent, it's 379 00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:59,119 Speaker 1: so violent, it's so impossible to go. That was also 380 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 1: hard fan that was That was a moment too. I 381 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 1: think we're watching that where like Russ took a shot 382 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 1: on one end and then Dame comes down just fishious 383 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 1: step back for three and you're lea, yes, he was 384 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 1: a tough one, yeah, or beautiful or beautiful because I 385 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:15,199 Speaker 1: am a neutral, so I said I would like that. 386 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 1: I embraced that. Yeah, But like Portlands can just fill 387 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:22,160 Speaker 1: it up, just buckets on buckets on buckets real quick. 388 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:26,160 Speaker 1: They were I think losing when I checked their score 389 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:29,199 Speaker 1: yesterday and then you know, checked it again and they 390 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:32,879 Speaker 1: were up, you know, so Simmons is kind of the 391 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:36,199 Speaker 1: younger guy that you've been hearing for years now that 392 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 1: like they won't trade this guy, so like that they're 393 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:41,440 Speaker 1: not like pumping them up there, just like, yeah, we 394 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 1: don't don't even talk to us about Simmons. And everyone 395 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:46,439 Speaker 1: was like, maybe that was a mistake. We don't know. 396 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:49,280 Speaker 1: He looked like decent at times last year. He looked 397 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 1: really good at times last year. But he put up 398 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:54,359 Speaker 1: i think twenty two of his twenty nine points and 399 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 1: a five and a half minute burst last night, and 400 00:23:57,040 --> 00:24:01,119 Speaker 1: they're just the Blazers are exciting. So shout out to 401 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:04,880 Speaker 1: Blazers fans. Shout out to Celtics fans. Also, they look 402 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:08,359 Speaker 1: just as look like they didn't miss the beat. Always 403 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:10,680 Speaker 1: like to see an anthrony doing well in the league. Yeah, 404 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 1: you know, should we do our underrated performance of the week? Yes, 405 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 1: our news segment, because sometimes you sleep on stuff and 406 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 1: you miss things. Well not now. Now we have to 407 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:25,200 Speaker 1: take the time to point out some fantastic underrated performers 408 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 1: of the week in our new segment and got to 409 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 1: highlight some of the best performances that definitely flew under 410 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 1: the radar. This is just Jabari sees all he's an 411 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:37,400 Speaker 1: all seeing Our producer, Jabari Davis wanted like an all 412 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 1: seeing basketball mind. And yeah he's like san, Yes, he's 413 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:44,719 Speaker 1: very much and like just the same, just as just 414 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 1: as similar. But so these are these are some performances 415 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:51,880 Speaker 1: I personally had missed over the past week. Brooklyn's Nick 416 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 1: Clexton put up a nineteen eleven and four blocks in 417 00:24:57,160 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 1: his win over Toronto. Well on the around a side, 418 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 1: Precious a Chewa had ten points and and this is 419 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:08,240 Speaker 1: where I am performatively taking off my gelasses and putting 420 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 1: them back on and rubbing my eyes twenty two rebounds 421 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 1: off the bench to in a win over the Heat. Yeah. 422 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:20,880 Speaker 1: And then Charlotte's Nick Richards put up ale and two 423 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:22,959 Speaker 1: blocks off the bench and a win over the Hawks. 424 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:26,440 Speaker 1: So you know, all you daily fantasy players out there, 425 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 1: it's got that. Yeah. And also I think just as 426 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:32,880 Speaker 1: a team got to mention the Jazz because I was like, hey, 427 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:36,680 Speaker 1: let's check in with that project and they're three and 428 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 1: one right now, and I was like, yeah, I thought 429 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:43,359 Speaker 1: y'all were supposed to, yeah, not do so good. Well, Yeah, 430 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 1: I wonder if any of the players are saying that 431 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 1: as they're beating them. They're like hey, like, hey, hey, Laurie, Man, 432 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:53,639 Speaker 1: what's happening? You wouldn't tell you whiling right now? What 433 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 1: happened is Danny ains know about this. You're in so 434 00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:00,960 Speaker 1: much trouble or you were in so much trouble with 435 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 1: plays the long game. You know he plays the long 436 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:08,280 Speaker 1: We've seen him do it. Oh man, all right, So 437 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:11,520 Speaker 1: we do want to get to your big news. The 438 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:15,719 Speaker 1: Barkley bio drops November one, just a few days. How 439 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:18,360 Speaker 1: are you doing? Is this year like three hundred interview 440 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 1: in the last couple of days. No, this this is 441 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:25,240 Speaker 1: really my first day of just really going hard. And 442 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 1: I mentioned this, but I've also got to a seven 443 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:34,679 Speaker 1: unfold son too, so I am doing these interviews. Also 444 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 1: 'm making sure he stays alive too, so like today, 445 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 1: but it's going great so far though, So I don't know, 446 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:48,199 Speaker 1: like what what are the story because this is this 447 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:51,720 Speaker 1: is a legendary dude, right, Like, how do you approach 448 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:54,480 Speaker 1: a biography? What are the stories that you came away 449 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 1: with where you were like wow, like I did not 450 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:01,200 Speaker 1: did not know? Like there there's one with a musician 451 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:05,240 Speaker 1: that I'm told is very popular named Madonna. Well, I 452 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 1: I don't even yes. That feels like if you had 453 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:13,719 Speaker 1: like a celebrity fridge magnets. He just Charles Barkley, Madonnadonna, 454 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 1: Godzilla and break dancing. What happened between Charles Barkley and Madonna. 455 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:25,960 Speaker 1: So it was one of those situations when Charles had 456 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 1: separated from his longtime wife Mo and it also had 457 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:34,399 Speaker 1: come at two point in time where Charles was the 458 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 1: type of peak of his power. This was the ninety 459 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 1: three season, his first in Phoenix, his and the p season, 460 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 1: and they are in the title of this playoff run 461 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:50,159 Speaker 1: that eventually attended in NBA Finals. Well, right around the 462 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:55,840 Speaker 1: times playoffs startup, Madonna is spotted attending one of Charles 463 00:27:55,920 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 1: His games in l A with our Citio Hall and O'Donnell. 464 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:07,960 Speaker 1: It's just to paint a picture here, pure nineties Big 465 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:11,160 Speaker 1: nine energy all the way. Are we were like three 466 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:13,399 Speaker 1: of the most nineties people out there. We should do this, right, 467 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 1: Let's just like kick it at a Lakers game, right, 468 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 1: that's great. I'm thinking like a Madonna and Rosie o'donald 469 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:22,720 Speaker 1: kicking it because like they just did Ale. Yeah, you 470 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 1: know what, I think they were friends before a league 471 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 1: of their own. I think I know that that like 472 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:31,240 Speaker 1: that friendship was was out there. Okay, okay. They even 473 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 1: had this magazine back and forth that they did in 474 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 1: which most O'donnald asked Donna at one point, if you 475 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:44,520 Speaker 1: had a choice between this guy, this guy and Charles Barkley, 476 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 1: who would you marry? Who would you date? And she said, 477 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 1: without hesitation, Charles Barkley, And she said, maybe joking leads 478 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 1: that Charles Barkley is a god. So the affinities she 479 00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 1: had at four Chuck, who was very public at this 480 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:06,000 Speaker 1: point in time, and actually it was so public that 481 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 1: they were actually spotted out to dinner in Phoenix one night, 482 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:13,680 Speaker 1: and I noticed because actually talked to the owner of 483 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 1: the restaurant who was like, yep, that's Madonna, and Charles 484 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:21,520 Speaker 1: actually introduced her as such. And they were also spotted 485 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 1: out at a nightclub, and there were just a bunch 486 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 1: of rumors that they were dating, and Chuck denied it 487 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:32,720 Speaker 1: every time. The timing of it is really interested because 488 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 1: she actually called him during the Western Conference Finals right 489 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:42,600 Speaker 1: before Game seven against Seattle, and that following day, Charles 490 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 1: has perhaps the best game he ever has forty four points, 491 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:51,880 Speaker 1: twenty four boards, game seven, win off to the finals, 492 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:55,880 Speaker 1: and just like everyone the whole time is like, is 493 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:59,520 Speaker 1: he friends with her? Is he seen her? A dave? 494 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:03,120 Speaker 1: They said no. It even got to a point or 495 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 1: Charles said that, um, his mother in law at the 496 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 1: time had a heart attack, and he said it was 497 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 1: because of the stress and these stories surrounding these allegations, 498 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 1: So like it was a really heavy, heavy point in 499 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:25,280 Speaker 1: his life, his career. That would be kind of forget 500 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:28,440 Speaker 1: about now And can you imagine to something like that 501 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 1: happened now, like in this age of social media and 502 00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:37,400 Speaker 1: memes and how that would just never go away. It 503 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 1: would be like I'm trying to think, like, I guess Lebron, No, 504 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,959 Speaker 1: maybe not Lebron, who who's like a player of that magnitude? 505 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 1: Maybe Durant? Who who? Like, is there an artist like 506 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 1: j Lo? Is that whoo Jack? Come on, get get 507 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:58,480 Speaker 1: with the times, man. I mean Madonna wasn't like new 508 00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:01,960 Speaker 1: on the on the scene and right, That's why I'm 509 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:04,840 Speaker 1: trying to come up with like people who are iconic 510 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:10,720 Speaker 1: and established Beyonce maybe I don't know, just like imagine 511 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:18,480 Speaker 1: James Harden and Taylor Swift, Yeah, something like that. So yeah, 512 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:23,840 Speaker 1: they've forget about this. And then a year later, Madonna 513 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 1: has her infamous interview on Hetterman Show in which she 514 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:35,760 Speaker 1: drops the F bomb like you know, fifteen seventeen times, 515 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:41,400 Speaker 1: and during the course of the interview, Hetterman actually asked 516 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:45,240 Speaker 1: her about if she was friends with Charles Barker. Then 517 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:49,280 Speaker 1: she said that he was in capable of being friends 518 00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 1: with anyone, just extremely uncomfortable within while. Yeah, so she 519 00:31:55,720 --> 00:32:01,440 Speaker 1: just even a year half of that uh oubject just 520 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:04,960 Speaker 1: kept coming up. Wow, you can't you can't really even 521 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,800 Speaker 1: contain him. That's how I would have taken that if 522 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,400 Speaker 1: I was Charles Barkley, he can't really be friends, he 523 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:13,479 Speaker 1: can't be friends with anyone. Is like, I don't know. 524 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:16,400 Speaker 1: It's like, first of all, wow, he still have feelings 525 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:20,520 Speaker 1: for me. Second of all, yeah, I like it. That 526 00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:23,720 Speaker 1: was at the time when she was a secretly eighty 527 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:26,600 Speaker 1: two pac too, and that came out like years later, 528 00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:31,920 Speaker 1: So like if a lot happening in her life at 529 00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:34,600 Speaker 1: that point in time and time A big fan of 530 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:37,520 Speaker 1: first so it's like, yeah, it's a lot, yeah, you know, 531 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:41,920 Speaker 1: I mean great taste. Um so, and then inside the NBA, 532 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,600 Speaker 1: which is I think, what a lot of the younger 533 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:46,880 Speaker 1: people kind of know him for man even still like 534 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:53,120 Speaker 1: that line it's like crazy in a game seven, is yeah, 535 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:56,400 Speaker 1: the fact that that isn't the thing that like everybody 536 00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:58,440 Speaker 1: talked about and people are still like, well, he didn't 537 00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:00,440 Speaker 1: win a title. It's like he put up preaty four 538 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:03,520 Speaker 1: and twenty four in a Game seven of the conference finals. 539 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:06,880 Speaker 1: The man could do things in in the clutch. That's crazy. 540 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:09,959 Speaker 1: But so now he's known for being just like one 541 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:15,440 Speaker 1: of the best TV personalities. Maybe I don't know, like 542 00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:19,080 Speaker 1: in the game anywhere. So, like, what's the backstory on 543 00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:23,040 Speaker 1: how the inside the NBA came together? Yeah, it was 544 00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:26,080 Speaker 1: kind of this open secret that he was always going 545 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:29,840 Speaker 1: to go into broadcasting after he was done. It was 546 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:33,800 Speaker 1: just the matter to win. And he started tempting at 547 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:40,040 Speaker 1: his retirement from basketball starting to nine four and so 548 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:43,600 Speaker 1: so if if this went on, this tease went on 549 00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:49,120 Speaker 1: for like six seasons before he finally stepped away after 550 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:53,520 Speaker 1: two thousand, um so everyone thought and recognized that he 551 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:57,400 Speaker 1: would end up on NBC, which had the NBA rights 552 00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:00,920 Speaker 1: at the time, which was the standard for or NBA 553 00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:06,920 Speaker 1: programming right up until Turner. Sorry to actually get more 554 00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:11,720 Speaker 1: of these games, and their head at the time wanted 555 00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:16,319 Speaker 1: to make a run at Charles, even if it was unlikely, 556 00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:19,799 Speaker 1: and they had this mutual friend who set up this 557 00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:25,799 Speaker 1: dinner which turned into this legendary hours long dinner with 558 00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:31,440 Speaker 1: a you know, like food, cigars, everything. And when Charles 559 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:34,879 Speaker 1: got back, he and pitiedly could not sleep that night, 560 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:37,600 Speaker 1: talked to his agent. He's like, I have to sleep 561 00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:41,560 Speaker 1: on it. He didn't sleep. Um And then early that 562 00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:45,200 Speaker 1: following morning he told pick ever saw his friend and 563 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:50,120 Speaker 1: the NBC Sports giant that he was going to Turner. 564 00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:54,319 Speaker 1: And I think it's surprised everyone I know. When I 565 00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:58,560 Speaker 1: spoke with Kevin Harland, he was like, the prospect at 566 00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:02,839 Speaker 1: the Charles coming here seems so distant and in such 567 00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:06,640 Speaker 1: a launch shot that I didn't want to take it seriously. 568 00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:10,640 Speaker 1: Didn't happened, and he and others said that it just 569 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:14,440 Speaker 1: changed how every one of view Turner at point in time, 570 00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:17,799 Speaker 1: and from the moment he got there, he clearly did 571 00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:21,880 Speaker 1: change things, and he really did open up things for 572 00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:27,080 Speaker 1: how studio shows go. UM so have tried, uh class 573 00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:31,680 Speaker 1: have failed to applicate that. And he's open up a 574 00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:34,040 Speaker 1: ton of opportunities for a thought of people Like when 575 00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:37,200 Speaker 1: I spoke with Kalen Rose, he told me that that 576 00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:42,520 Speaker 1: he would not be on ESPN now if Chuck had 577 00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:46,480 Speaker 1: not done that con turner and showing people that this 578 00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:50,000 Speaker 1: can be done at a high double. You can be funny, 579 00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:54,200 Speaker 1: we can talk about things that are not just basketball, 580 00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:58,719 Speaker 1: and it's going to be okay. I mean that is 581 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:03,160 Speaker 1: that is truly like thank god things happened that way, 582 00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:06,480 Speaker 1: because like it's easy to forget now, but like there 583 00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:09,960 Speaker 1: was a huge difference between like what you could get 584 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:13,080 Speaker 1: away with on NBC versus what you could get away 585 00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:15,880 Speaker 1: with on like a cable like not even like one 586 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,279 Speaker 1: of the top cable channels, but I guess, I guess 587 00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:20,000 Speaker 1: it is one of the top cable channels. But there 588 00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:23,239 Speaker 1: were so many I had nitro man right, So like 589 00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:26,960 Speaker 1: the fact that he went to not one of the 590 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:30,680 Speaker 1: networks where he would have had to deal with, you know, 591 00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:33,839 Speaker 1: a legacy and uh, you know, you just wouldn't have 592 00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:36,960 Speaker 1: been like the networks is like Bob Costas and stuff, 593 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:38,960 Speaker 1: like they're not gonna leave it baggy and just be 594 00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:42,600 Speaker 1: like let's just let Chuck be Chuck and like kind 595 00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:46,080 Speaker 1: of invent like podcast vibes in the process. Because like 596 00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:48,719 Speaker 1: that's really what is the closest thing that we had 597 00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:52,760 Speaker 1: the podcast back then, which was just like them seeming 598 00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:56,759 Speaker 1: like they were chilling being honest about being honest about 599 00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:59,080 Speaker 1: like their shortcomings, being like I don't know, I didn't 600 00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:04,560 Speaker 1: really watch it that like you know, like when you're 601 00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:06,600 Speaker 1: not mad about that either, because you're more just in 602 00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:09,640 Speaker 1: awe of like hearing this sort of the sincere interactions 603 00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:12,600 Speaker 1: between these guys. Yeah, I wonder if that was like 604 00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:15,600 Speaker 1: his instinct in that moment or if it was just 605 00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:18,120 Speaker 1: like that good of a meal that he was like, Man, 606 00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:20,720 Speaker 1: I'm going to eat well if I go to Turner 607 00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:22,680 Speaker 1: was just like what did they tell you? He's like, 608 00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:26,480 Speaker 1: I forget, man, But the potatoes that they had and 609 00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:29,560 Speaker 1: I don't know what the dishes called, but they were 610 00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:36,160 Speaker 1: creamy and mashy. This all sounds so good. I gotta 611 00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:40,480 Speaker 1: make the so yeah, it's just yeah, it's true though, 612 00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:46,080 Speaker 1: because speaking with Bob Cosas, pat Riley, dr J had 613 00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:50,719 Speaker 1: a storm people who were NBC at point times they 614 00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:54,480 Speaker 1: all said that Chuck went there, he could not be 615 00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:57,440 Speaker 1: the same guy. It was too straight placed, he was 616 00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:02,640 Speaker 1: too buy the book, um, and sometimes it was just 617 00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:08,279 Speaker 1: very boring too for being honest. Honestly, the same could 618 00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:12,080 Speaker 1: be said about T N. Teeth and Turner before Chuck, 619 00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:15,439 Speaker 1: when it was just Ernie and Kenny. They were both 620 00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:20,400 Speaker 1: very good, but it was not exciting. It was it 621 00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:25,000 Speaker 1: was good, but nowhere near they are now where you know, 622 00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:29,920 Speaker 1: this guy ducked into the Hall of Fame for that show, 623 00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:34,360 Speaker 1: which is unheard of. Right, Yeah, yeah, man, off the 624 00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:36,200 Speaker 1: strength of your show being so they're like, you know, 625 00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:39,319 Speaker 1: what's so good? That's how much joy you've given us. 626 00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:42,160 Speaker 1: Super producer an A hosnie A. She's one of the 627 00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:44,840 Speaker 1: producers of our other show, The Daily's Like Ice. I 628 00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:47,360 Speaker 1: watched her become a fan of the n B a 629 00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:51,640 Speaker 1: through just being a fan of Inside the NBA, and 630 00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:54,400 Speaker 1: she was just like, that show is so good that 631 00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:58,160 Speaker 1: I am now watching games to know what they're talking 632 00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:01,839 Speaker 1: about when they're talking about the it's a gateway show. Yeah, 633 00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:04,279 Speaker 1: you know, because there is. I think it's just that 634 00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:07,080 Speaker 1: level of sincerity behind it. It's like, yeah, Charles Barkley 635 00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:09,680 Speaker 1: trying to do a very polished version of what on 636 00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:12,520 Speaker 1: air pundit is is not as interesting as merely just 637 00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:16,719 Speaker 1: letting people embrace who they are and just taking that 638 00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:19,640 Speaker 1: because that's truly that's the magic. Isn't even like, well, 639 00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:22,200 Speaker 1: what's the secret. It's like we just let people on 640 00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:25,879 Speaker 1: as that and work. It's just been cooking for so long. 641 00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:32,719 Speaker 1: And and thankfully short after Shock joined he found himself too, 642 00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:36,279 Speaker 1: because people at this kind of but when Shaq first joined, 643 00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:39,759 Speaker 1: he was trying to be ESPN Shack instead of like 644 00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:44,359 Speaker 1: myself and right, yeah, exactly, instead of the guy who 645 00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:47,319 Speaker 1: was in the Shacks pedition, you know, pulling up at 646 00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:50,439 Speaker 1: pickup games in l as being a real regular guy. 647 00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:55,600 Speaker 1: Angelina's remember that phase of Shock just being check october 648 00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:59,239 Speaker 1: Fest Shock. You know that's another Angelina local reference. But 649 00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:02,359 Speaker 1: there's ah, yeah, there's a Horror Night now and Long 650 00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:05,680 Speaker 1: Beach that is Shock themed and like Shock shows up 651 00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:08,800 Speaker 1: in DJs there. So Jack is really a force of nature. 652 00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:11,319 Speaker 1: But yeah, the fact that that show was able to 653 00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:15,000 Speaker 1: make itself roomy enough to contain that force of nature 654 00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:20,319 Speaker 1: like a like a blimp hanger containing containing cloud um, 655 00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:22,799 Speaker 1: that was poetry. Let's take a quick break. We'll be 656 00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:38,120 Speaker 1: right back with Rabbid Fire and we're back and Miles, 657 00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:42,400 Speaker 1: you know what time it is? Man? Mm hmmm, you do, right, 658 00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:46,560 Speaker 1: it's time. Yes, like four No, no, I mean like 659 00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:53,120 Speaker 1: we missed it by three minutes. Oh this guy, madam. Yes, 660 00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:57,920 Speaker 1: it's time for the rapid fire round of questions. Now, Timothy, 661 00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:01,760 Speaker 1: rapid fire round questions. I don't know if you've always 662 00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:04,239 Speaker 1: done that, but I like that being the name of 663 00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:07,800 Speaker 1: it because it's very um yeah, and as if there's 664 00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:11,080 Speaker 1: another round of questions that were less rapid. Look, don't 665 00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:14,120 Speaker 1: pick up part the just just let me be Miles. Okay, 666 00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:17,040 Speaker 1: we just learned. Let Chuck beat Chuck. Let Miles be Miles. 667 00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:19,520 Speaker 1: I'll be Bob Costas Timothy Bella. It is time for 668 00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:22,439 Speaker 1: the rapid fire round of questioning. I changed it even 669 00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:26,759 Speaker 1: that time. Now this is the fastest segment in sports podcasting, nay, 670 00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:29,960 Speaker 1: all of podcasting. We're gonna ask you a question. You 671 00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:34,640 Speaker 1: just respond with your first instinct answer. Do not extend 672 00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:37,239 Speaker 1: your answer. Keep it quick, and we will hold you 673 00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:41,320 Speaker 1: accountable even if Jack or I continue to blow viate 674 00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:45,360 Speaker 1: and extend it because the fastest moment. Obviously we know 675 00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:50,200 Speaker 1: that Jack, we know we let's go exactly. Thank you 676 00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:52,239 Speaker 1: so much, and Jack, you already you know obviously we 677 00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:55,120 Speaker 1: know how important it is to keep this segment moving obviously, 678 00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:00,680 Speaker 1: so of course, let's not dawdle any further shot. Wait, 679 00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:03,799 Speaker 1: hold on, let me get man. All right, my thought 680 00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:08,280 Speaker 1: my cup of noodles was done. Okay, here we go. Uh, 681 00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:11,239 Speaker 1: let's go start the clock. That's right. The rapid fire 682 00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:14,720 Speaker 1: round of questions begins. Uh do you want to go first? Uh? Sure, 683 00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:19,440 Speaker 1: go all right, Timothy. What is the biggest surprise so 684 00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:22,440 Speaker 1: far in the early going? Is it the Jazz coming 685 00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:27,600 Speaker 1: out and you know, winning games? Is it the Blazers 686 00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:32,400 Speaker 1: going four? And oh? Is it the Lakers? The Sixers? 687 00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:37,960 Speaker 1: Where where where are you at? I go Jazz? And uh, 688 00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:42,160 Speaker 1: every time I see Danny Andrew's face, let's looks stunned. 689 00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:46,200 Speaker 1: I think that kind of sums it up. So yeah, 690 00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:48,480 Speaker 1: definitely the Jazz. I'm feeling kind of I'm feeling like 691 00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:51,880 Speaker 1: true Major League vibes, like the movie Major League, like 692 00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:59,239 Speaker 1: where they have They're all just like we're gonna win. Yeah, 693 00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:01,759 Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, these players got a lot of heart, 694 00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:05,640 Speaker 1: but that's about it. And then look what's happening. They're 695 00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:07,839 Speaker 1: putting up big numbers. I'm sorry, we have to keep 696 00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:12,680 Speaker 1: this going. Next question, Timothy, Indiana rookie Benedict Mathern joined 697 00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:15,359 Speaker 1: Reggie Miller as the only two Pacers rookies to ever 698 00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:19,200 Speaker 1: score twenty plus in consecutive games off the bench. Between 699 00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:23,760 Speaker 1: Haliburton and Mathern, has Indiana found the next Pacers stars 700 00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:27,120 Speaker 1: or might this make them more likely to make a 701 00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:30,240 Speaker 1: deal to clear even more space for them to shine 702 00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:33,359 Speaker 1: similar predicament. They're like, whoa, whoa, whoa whoa. And this 703 00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:36,600 Speaker 1: is a Lakers fan leading question where they're like, should 704 00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:38,960 Speaker 1: they just like, I don't know everybody else on a 705 00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:42,920 Speaker 1: fire sale, You're you're you're putting that complexion on there. 706 00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:45,440 Speaker 1: I'm just but Loki, I am. I am curious as 707 00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:48,800 Speaker 1: a Laker fan though. Two that just is a coincidence. Yeah, 708 00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:52,239 Speaker 1: they can deal everybody else to except those two. I 709 00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:55,960 Speaker 1: really do think they've got something cooking. Um is a 710 00:43:56,000 --> 00:44:01,759 Speaker 1: case of Mathern. He killed Mike's two Frogs and porch 711 00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:08,160 Speaker 1: madness last year, so um, I perspectively hate him, but 712 00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:11,920 Speaker 1: he's spent happing so he's great. Yeah, but objectively got 713 00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:16,160 Speaker 1: to understand, Okay, he's got sometimes he's good. He's good. 714 00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:18,200 Speaker 1: He was the other player in the summer League that 715 00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:22,719 Speaker 1: everybody was like, watch out now, Um, all right, this 716 00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:24,520 Speaker 1: is news to me, but it says here that the 717 00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:28,040 Speaker 1: Sixers and Lakers are both off too rough starts. Um, 718 00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:30,360 Speaker 1: which team do you think is in more trouble and 719 00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:33,440 Speaker 1: which team is more likely to make a move first? 720 00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:37,560 Speaker 1: And it's gotta be l A on both of those 721 00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:42,120 Speaker 1: and possibly I don't think gets close. And I mean, 722 00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:46,080 Speaker 1: at least with Philly, you've got far and two seems 723 00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:50,719 Speaker 1: like he's bounced back. MB who is my m VP 724 00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:55,479 Speaker 1: pick for this season? You've got all the pieces there. 725 00:44:55,719 --> 00:45:00,640 Speaker 1: Everything looks okay, even if it's a I'll start to 726 00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:05,920 Speaker 1: first in l A. Can you name anyone off their 727 00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:10,439 Speaker 1: bench who isn't Austin Reeves right now? Because I'm having 728 00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:14,240 Speaker 1: a really hard time with it. So I think there's 729 00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:18,839 Speaker 1: just an absolute mess. Mm hmm, yeah, it's it's it's 730 00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:22,319 Speaker 1: a big moment. Uh, it's the existential gut checked. I 731 00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:24,320 Speaker 1: think right now we're looking at what is the best 732 00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:26,680 Speaker 1: way out? How did we get here? How do we 733 00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:29,680 Speaker 1: prevent being back here for a very long time. But 734 00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:31,600 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say, you know what, you've got to 735 00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:38,279 Speaker 1: start off Rocky two and somewhat Yeah, I don't know, 736 00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:42,360 Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, I'm I think I'm worried. No, 737 00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:44,760 Speaker 1: that was coherent and seems like you're in a good place. 738 00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:47,600 Speaker 1: I am, I am, I am, I'm look, I'm I'm 739 00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:49,319 Speaker 1: a big Grizzlies fan, you know what I mean, like 740 00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:54,440 Speaker 1: shout out to my Lakers as someone who um experienced 741 00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:58,439 Speaker 1: for us for a whole season. Um yeah, oh yeah, 742 00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:03,799 Speaker 1: I don't even have to say just yeah yeah. And 743 00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:06,200 Speaker 1: I think I think that I think that conversation is 744 00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:09,319 Speaker 1: rapidly shifting towards like is it you know, what is 745 00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:10,759 Speaker 1: going on with him? And it is this more of 746 00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:14,080 Speaker 1: a situation where it's like they're like peep. I think 747 00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:17,560 Speaker 1: needs the space to be able to come to like neutral, 748 00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:20,480 Speaker 1: Like I think that there's I think the situation has 749 00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:24,520 Speaker 1: become insurmountable for however he's used to doing things and 750 00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:27,040 Speaker 1: now I'm less like, man, this guy, like get him 751 00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:30,320 Speaker 1: out here. I'm like, is this guy okay? Is he okay? 752 00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:32,920 Speaker 1: Is he okay? It's like now I'm shifting to that, 753 00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:37,520 Speaker 1: you know, agree with a Chuck said a week or 754 00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:40,600 Speaker 1: two ago how his joy has kind of been sucked out, 755 00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:45,000 Speaker 1: Like you can see, yeah, just in his eyes there's 756 00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:48,719 Speaker 1: not as much fire or life even with all of 757 00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:52,560 Speaker 1: his flaws, He's still had that energy you just love 758 00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:55,960 Speaker 1: and you just don't see it right now. Kind it's sad. Yeah, 759 00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:58,799 Speaker 1: and you know what, Timothy, I love the empathy, but 760 00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:00,719 Speaker 1: we have to keep this move, you know what I mean. 761 00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:04,680 Speaker 1: I'll let you go a little bit long there. Yeah, 762 00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:06,879 Speaker 1: So so sorry about that. So sorry about that. But 763 00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:09,320 Speaker 1: also the second more shooting three point team in the 764 00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:11,480 Speaker 1: league is that I think twenty nine percent, and the 765 00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:15,279 Speaker 1: Lakers are currently at twenty one percent. So just um, hey, 766 00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:18,439 Speaker 1: what about those defensive ratings. Defensive ratings are off the chart. 767 00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:21,200 Speaker 1: That's why I'm not like all out on this team. 768 00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:24,680 Speaker 1: I just think I'm not. Their defense looks great. They 769 00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:28,040 Speaker 1: just need to find some shooting, um, which is easier 770 00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:32,960 Speaker 1: than we're like a like a Disney Films inciting incident 771 00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:35,719 Speaker 1: away from figuring this. Yeah, you know what I mean. 772 00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:38,960 Speaker 1: It's like something gets out to a ten and oh 773 00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:42,320 Speaker 1: start and then Danny Danny Ainge is like fire sale. 774 00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:48,480 Speaker 1: Um alright. One of our listeners, Adam Silver a Silver 775 00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:54,719 Speaker 1: in the discord mentioned relegation, uh and teams taking the message. 776 00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:58,279 Speaker 1: Is there any world where that actually takes place in 777 00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:02,480 Speaker 1: the NBA? No, I don't see it ever happening, to 778 00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:08,200 Speaker 1: be honest, would I be against it now? I wouldn't be, because, uh, 779 00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:15,000 Speaker 1: teams like my Rockets, Oklahoma City, San Antonio, Detroit, Orlanda 780 00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:18,839 Speaker 1: have just been so so bad for multiple stretches now 781 00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:23,439 Speaker 1: and I do think it would accelerate some of these 782 00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:28,319 Speaker 1: rebuilts hopefully. Um So I wouldn't be opposed to it. 783 00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:32,680 Speaker 1: I just never see actually going through. Yeah, yeah, it's 784 00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:34,879 Speaker 1: I mean, it's just hard. I think. Just again, we're 785 00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:38,600 Speaker 1: not like other sports leagues like where you can do 786 00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:42,319 Speaker 1: that in you know, potentially minor league Baseball or things 787 00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:45,520 Speaker 1: where the infrastructure set up that immediately a teams like well, 788 00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:48,000 Speaker 1: I'm in this market and here's my venue to play 789 00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:51,400 Speaker 1: in boom where now everything has to be like a 790 00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:54,879 Speaker 1: huge arena. So that really limits those markets unless you're 791 00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:57,560 Speaker 1: doing like a hermit crab thing where like a relegated 792 00:48:57,600 --> 00:49:00,800 Speaker 1: team is like, well kick these guys because guess who's 793 00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:04,359 Speaker 1: using the crypto dot com arena now, Like I don't 794 00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:08,640 Speaker 1: think from the right, but I mean it is interesting 795 00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:10,600 Speaker 1: to see, like obviously, because you want to try and 796 00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:14,120 Speaker 1: figure out a way to not incentivize playing so cynically 797 00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:17,080 Speaker 1: especially when you know, like a lot of people are 798 00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:19,759 Speaker 1: you know, fans and want to be like, hey, let's 799 00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:22,000 Speaker 1: let's see where this goes. But I get that there's 800 00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:24,800 Speaker 1: you know, how do you how do you alter that system? Already? 801 00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:27,479 Speaker 1: It seems just overly complex and I just don't think 802 00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:31,160 Speaker 1: logistically or infrastructurally. Uh, there's a way for that to happen. 803 00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:33,799 Speaker 1: But hey, I'm down for hermit crab switching. Like if 804 00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:37,239 Speaker 1: you're relegated, guess what'll come up off it playing in 805 00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:39,840 Speaker 1: the garden? Or what if you decided who the next 806 00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:42,319 Speaker 1: who got the number one pick in the next year 807 00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:46,200 Speaker 1: with a mid season tournament between like the bottom eight 808 00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:52,440 Speaker 1: teams or something like that. It's like, now get it together. Um, 809 00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:56,200 Speaker 1: I feel good about that. Yeah, yeah, I think there 810 00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:58,200 Speaker 1: is a way to do a gladiator fight anyway. Moving 811 00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:00,759 Speaker 1: on to the final question and most importantes and Timothy Bella, 812 00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:10,960 Speaker 1: Jack or Miles No kidding, that's an answer. That is 813 00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:17,000 Speaker 1: an answer was the answer last week? Man? No, Um, 814 00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:21,720 Speaker 1: I never picked between people, so I hope an option 815 00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:28,400 Speaker 1: just always So okay, I appreciate that. Fantastic car Friends. 816 00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:35,359 Speaker 1: Uh yeah, could until like a minute ago. Um, that's cool. 817 00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:43,200 Speaker 1: I'm oh thirteen and two. Stop spamming the chat with 818 00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:50,759 Speaker 1: Tim You burned me? Oh man, Well, Timothy Bella, man, 819 00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:52,920 Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining us on Miles and 820 00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:56,399 Speaker 1: Jack Coot mab boost these Where can people find you? 821 00:50:57,200 --> 00:50:59,640 Speaker 1: Follow you read your work in all of that. So 822 00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:04,080 Speaker 1: I'm on leave at the Washington Post at the moment, 823 00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:06,480 Speaker 1: but all of the back there to two months on 824 00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:12,400 Speaker 1: Twitter at Tim Bella. Yeah, and Parkley is out November one. 825 00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:16,239 Speaker 1: You can find it on Amazon, Horns and Noble, any 826 00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:20,480 Speaker 1: independent bookstore anywhere. Just go and buy it. You will 827 00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:24,879 Speaker 1: be supporting a seven the old baby too, so yes, 828 00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:28,320 Speaker 1: there you go, exactly do it for the kids. Please 829 00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:32,120 Speaker 1: name it Barkley, right you said the baby's named Barkley. 830 00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:36,480 Speaker 1: His middle name yes, yeah, yes, first name Charles, so 831 00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:45,399 Speaker 1: you just love that. Also, be sure to follow us 832 00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:47,640 Speaker 1: on Twitter at mad boost. E's a shout out to 833 00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:52,160 Speaker 1: this listener of the week at Paul Garaventa for you know, 834 00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:54,000 Speaker 1: being like, hey do you see this one ban Yama clip? 835 00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:56,560 Speaker 1: You see this wimpy clip? We appreciate you. Also, hey, 836 00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:58,840 Speaker 1: follow us at mad boosts b O O S t 837 00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:01,560 Speaker 1: I E S. And also you know, hit us up. 838 00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:03,120 Speaker 1: You got you got something you want us to see, 839 00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:06,239 Speaker 1: a take that we should consider. We'd love to hear 840 00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:10,120 Speaker 1: from you. So that's gonna do it for this week. Right, Yeah, 841 00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:12,360 Speaker 1: we did it. I can't wait to see, man, I 842 00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:14,560 Speaker 1: can't wait to check in on those records, you know, 843 00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:17,320 Speaker 1: Let's see what Let's see where the standings are at. Okay, 844 00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:19,719 Speaker 1: in a week, and then we'll see if I'm still 845 00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:22,719 Speaker 1: feeling if you're still no longer a Lakers fan and 846 00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:26,319 Speaker 1: just just a basketball transcended. I'm gonna turn into the 847 00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:30,600 Speaker 1: Mr Burns when he was like glowing in that one episode. 848 00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:35,320 Speaker 1: I'm enlightened now I do not have a team, only 849 00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:39,759 Speaker 1: the league. They're like, this dude has been contaminated by 850 00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:43,120 Speaker 1: some kind of toxic substance. All right, Well, anyway, thanks 851 00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:45,400 Speaker 1: so much for joining us. We'll see you next week. 852 00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:52,520 Speaker 1: Bye bye,