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Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus

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Speaker 1: in Barrie, Ohio. This is Cleveland Browns Daily on eight

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Speaker 1: Here are your hosts.

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Speaker 2: Bo Bishop and Nathan Ziguras live.

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Speaker 3: On a Thursday edition of the program, Merely Bo the

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Speaker 3: Great Zi. I almost wore shorts. I might tomorrow. I

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Speaker 3: thought about it because that would give me I have

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Speaker 3: to do it. Tomorrow's I want to wear short.

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Speaker 4: Marle's pushing sixty Tomorrow's day.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, because it's great. But that's fine. I wanted

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Speaker 3: to wear shorts in every month of the year, and

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Speaker 3: so that tomorrow's the day.

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Speaker 5: I feel like, Yeah, And if you can get it here,

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Speaker 5: February might be tough, but I feel like you will

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Speaker 5: be able to find a day forty in there.

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Speaker 3: February is going to be the tricky one. It's always

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Speaker 3: the diciest. The idea that we're getting a sixty in

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Speaker 3: January is a gift from the heavens, and I'll take it.

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Speaker 5: The idea that it's going to be sixty and then

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Speaker 5: within two days.

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Speaker 3: No, no, don't do that. Don't do that to me.

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Speaker 3: I won't do it. Sorry, don't do that to me.

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Speaker 4: I don't.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to think about I'm trying to live

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Speaker 3: in the moment. I told my wife this, I'm trying

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Speaker 3: to turn over a new leaf. I spend way too

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Speaker 3: much time thinking about what's coming and not doing at

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Speaker 3: a good enough job of living in where we are.

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Speaker 3: Whether you and miss Ka is in that. Yeah, I'm

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Speaker 3: always thinking about.

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Speaker 5: What he's worried about, like our flight to floor, like

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Speaker 5: she is well worried about it, and I'm like, it's

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Speaker 5: a week away.

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Speaker 3: You're gonna be good. There you go, so, yeah, this

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Speaker 3: will be This is nice out there, shiny orb in

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Speaker 3: the sky apparently doesn't do you any harm and actually

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Speaker 3: enhances your life a little bit, a little vitamin D.

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Speaker 3: We haven't seen it in a long time, so that

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Speaker 3: was nice.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's been fantastic. I went to the I was

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Speaker 5: at the store this morning and people were all in like,

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Speaker 5: we're in better moods. Wonder why I have an idea?

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Speaker 5: Blue sky's sun all seem pretty good.

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Speaker 3: I certainly have an idea. So last night I got home,

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Speaker 3: we'll get to all the stuff. We got some time.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna be andered a little bit. Last night, got

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Speaker 3: home from basketball practice and and again I still I

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Speaker 3: know I'm the only one, and I know I pay

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Speaker 3: way too much, but cable is still remarkable. So I

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Speaker 3: I'm looking for a sport to watch, and NBC had

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Speaker 3: gotten done watching Kentucky, and the two littles were going

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Speaker 3: up to bed, and I was looking for something. So

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Speaker 3: I always I have this, I look in the sports tears.

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Speaker 3: Is there anything that I care about in this tier?

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Speaker 3: Last night there really wasn't. At nine twenty, there really

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Speaker 3: wasn't anything in the sports tier that I cared about.

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Speaker 3: It needed about an hour of entertainment, is what I

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Speaker 3: was looking for, and so that wasn't there. Amy was

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Speaker 3: bouncing around doing stuff, and the two littles were heading

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Speaker 3: know that in this around nine to twenty so a

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Speaker 3: little program called Wedding Crashers had started on HBO at

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Speaker 3: nine o'clock. So, yeah, I'm in. We're twenty minutes in

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Speaker 3: the first it's Secretary Cleary. We're at the wedding. I mean,

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Speaker 3: that's it.

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Speaker 5: Until they go to the island and still the island

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Speaker 5: is good. But the time that a movie starts to

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Speaker 5: the going to the island.

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Speaker 3: Is I think the well, I think unbelievable. I think

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Speaker 3: from Crabcakes in football, is that that what you mean

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Speaker 3: by going to the island? Like, I think the ferry

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Speaker 3: to the island until the painting was a gift is

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Speaker 3: like the funniest hour ever. The one hitching the gidea

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Speaker 3: we were past the montage part. So we got through that,

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Speaker 3: and the montage is what it is, it's great. So

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Speaker 4: Was thinking, like I I guess I had forgotten the Vaughan.

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Speaker 3: Tied up scene. I had forgotten about that. I don't

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Speaker 3: know how, but I just it's fine. Yeah, well Gloria first,

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Speaker 3: then Todd yeah, and then Secretary Cleary in between like

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Speaker 3: I'm like, it's wedding Crashers And I'm like, this is

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Speaker 3: I think it's the funniest movie. It's my favorite funny

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Speaker 3: movie of all time. And he goes. He goes, oh,

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Speaker 3: i've only seen clips. I said, you've only seen clips.

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Speaker 4: I said, sit down, sit down, have a seat, take

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Speaker 4: a drink. Yeah, you're gonna like it.

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Speaker 3: So he's got his He was watching like some they

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Speaker 3: watched these. Your kids do this, they watch like shows

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Speaker 3: on their iPhones, on their phones. It's crazy with headsets.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, we got a thousand TVs.

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Speaker 5: Pick one, dreamful beautiful TVs.

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Speaker 3: Yes, four K like enjoy yourself. No, no, no, there

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Speaker 3: are headphones on, and I'm going this is insane. So like, well,

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Speaker 3: it's pretty great. I think it's pretty funny. So he's

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Speaker 3: he's like this on his thing, watch whatever he's doing.

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Speaker 3: And then he just I noticed that he just kind

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Speaker 3: and he's like then he just starts dying. And I'm like, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: welcome to there's great stuff out here. Brother. It's all

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Speaker 3: out here, man, it's all out here. It's it is.

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Speaker 3: It's it's my favorite funny movie ever. And it holds up.

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Speaker 3: We watched, I watched all the way. We I ended

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Speaker 3: up going to bed at painting was a gift. That's

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Speaker 3: when I went to bed. It was a gift. Penny

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Speaker 3: was a gift time.

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Speaker 5: I like it was a confession. I love old school,

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Speaker 5: old school. It's amazing, amazing. I was actually just watching

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Speaker 5: a clip on Instagram and Sean William Scott was on

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Speaker 5: The Eisen Show.

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Speaker 3: Rich does such a great job of he must just say,

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Speaker 3: if there is a Hollywood actor who wants to come

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Speaker 3: idea that like him like all this. Andy Garcia showed

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Speaker 3: up like a couple of weeks ago was on Eisen

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Speaker 3: and did a really interesting like twenty minutes. Yeah, so

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Speaker 3: he must his his studio. Do you know where it is? Exactly?

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Speaker 3: My boy TJ's on that show. Yeah, yea, yeah, And

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Speaker 3: I know we've had Rich on. But their studio must

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Speaker 3: be so convenient for actors. It's got to be right

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Speaker 3: around where because La is not convenient at all, like

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Speaker 3: you just kind of stay in your pockets. So it

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Speaker 3: must be very close to like the television city, like

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Speaker 3: all of it's got to be. He gets a lot

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Speaker 3: of actors, he gets them on a lot, yeah, a lot,

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Speaker 5: So he had him on and they were talking about

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Speaker 5: Old School. And you know, he had just done with

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Speaker 5: my blanket on the I can picture the guy in

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Speaker 4: Right now, American Pie.

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Speaker 5: No, no, no, he had just done road Trip. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 5: what's the name of the director? Has all these movies. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: and he's in makes his little cameos in Todd Phillips.

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Speaker 5: So Todd Philps like, hey, I've got this role for

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Speaker 3: He's like, well, Farrell's in it.

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Speaker 5: He's like, Will Ferrell's going to go from being like

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Speaker 3: And Vond's in it, obviously.

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Speaker 5: And so the role was for him to be the like,

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Speaker 5: he had the mullet and that hole, like his outfit

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Speaker 5: So like the scene where he goes over and he

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Speaker 3: The real animal. Hand was like, dude, you can't do that,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we got it. So he thought it would be

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Speaker 5: just so funny if his whole character's outlook on life

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Speaker 5: And so he thought it was so funny, and at

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Speaker 5: you know, when we're shooting it, when he the dart

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Speaker 5: So in the edits they obviously slow down Farrell's voice like, yeah,

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Speaker 5: And he said all of Farrell's lines and there were

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Speaker 5: When he saw somebody put that dart into their jugular,

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Speaker 5: like that was the greatest moment of his life.

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Speaker 3: That's how it was played.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and it was very I thought it was great.

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Speaker 4: He's trying not to laugh. He's like, oh my god,

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Speaker 4: that actual, we actually did this.

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Speaker 3: It's amazing.

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Speaker 4: So this is great, all right, It's like, that's.

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Speaker 3: Awesome that cameo from Seawan Williams Scott. I think I

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Speaker 3: know how the answer is going to be. But I

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Speaker 3: think the Seawan Williams Scott cameo is so good an

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Speaker 3: old school that I think it does. It is worthy

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Speaker 3: of this conversation versus Farrell at the end of wedding

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Speaker 3: crashers paratrooping in at the very end for mom meatlove.

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Speaker 3: So I think the Faraoh one has a little bit more.

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Speaker 3: It's more iconic, it's more remembered.

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Speaker 5: It's like he's more integral into it because he's the

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Speaker 5: one where they see his life and how he's now

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Speaker 5: funeral crashing and it's like, whoa, we maybe need to

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Speaker 5: rein it in a little bit.

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Speaker 3: Here Bonne had already reined it in like he was good.

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Speaker 3: He's marrying Gloria, He's good.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, But for I think and you have this,

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Speaker 5: you know, the mom meet, I mean it became a

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Speaker 5: sports center at it became a.

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Speaker 3: So I think that one was just a little bigger.

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Speaker 5: But it's I think in a burst, I think that

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Speaker 5: Shawn Williams Scott in Old School is great. And then

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Speaker 5: the other one I would say is Matt Damon singing

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Speaker 5: Scotty that know, and your road trip is.

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Speaker 3: Unreach And when you first see all of those, all

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Speaker 3: three of those, you have no idea that those people

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Speaker 3: I go, Honey. From now on, let's just do inner dialogue. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: But let's just not say things out loud for movies

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Speaker 5: and five, fifteen, two, nine and eight.

436
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Speaker 3: All Right, So as you're doing that, I'm just thinking

437
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Speaker 3: to myself, Jim Caldwell must have a hell of a

438
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Speaker 3: coaching record he's got, so I just pulled it up. Yeah,

439
00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:59,879
Speaker 3: he did. And in that is a two and fourteen season,

440
00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:03,080
Speaker 3: Manning gets hurt it indy, and then they fired him

441
00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:04,439
Speaker 3: when they went with Curtis Pander to make sure they

442
00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:07,200
Speaker 3: got Andrew Luck. But it's fourteen and two, ten and six,

443
00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:10,560
Speaker 3: two and fourteen, eleven and five, seven and nine, nine

444
00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:14,600
Speaker 3: and seven, nine and seven, fired in Detroit. Done. His

445
00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:16,960
Speaker 3: only other head coaching was in college at wake Forest,

446
00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:21,040
Speaker 3: where they were dreadful twenty six and sixty three during

447
00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:23,000
Speaker 3: his years there. That's a very tough job, but that's

448
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Speaker 3: a hell of.

449
00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:24,080
Speaker 4: A record for him.

450
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Speaker 5: Yeah, sixty two and fifty, won two playoff games, went

451
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Speaker 5: to a Super Bowl, coached them to a super Bowl

452
00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:30,520
Speaker 5: in his first year, that's when they lost to New

453
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Speaker 5: Orleans the odd side kick Hank Basket two thousand and nine.

454
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Speaker 3: It's probably it's probably the most yeah, legacy flipping super

455
00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:47,000
Speaker 3: Bowl of the last twenty five years for both because

456
00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:52,240
Speaker 3: it changed. If Manning wins that, then it's two in Indy, yep,

457
00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:54,520
Speaker 3: one in Denver yep. Now he's a three time Super

458
00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:56,840
Speaker 3: Bowl champion. I mean, he's already in such revered era,

459
00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:59,280
Speaker 3: but I mean it's even more so with that with

460
00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:02,240
Speaker 3: a second super win, it would have been if memory serves.

461
00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:04,960
Speaker 3: Obviously it was against his hometown team, so there's that

462
00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:07,359
Speaker 3: side to it as well. So that's massive. But it's

463
00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:10,560
Speaker 3: even bigger from the Saints perspective because it totally changed

464
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Speaker 3: the way you viewed Sean Payton, who's done a great

465
00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:14,639
Speaker 3: job in Denver now so crushed it. But like they

466
00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:17,360
Speaker 3: had a lot of meandering after that in New Orleans

467
00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:20,920
Speaker 3: and he walked on water the whole time. They didn't

468
00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:22,840
Speaker 3: have a lot of great playoff moments him and Breeze

469
00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:25,480
Speaker 3: other than that, and nobody ever talked about any of

470
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Speaker 3: it because they won that super Bowl.

471
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Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, and for Breeze to get that. I mean

472
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Speaker 5: their record when you actually when you look at it,

473
00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:34,359
Speaker 5: what is it?

474
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Speaker 3: I think it's worse than people think.

475
00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:37,800
Speaker 5: Trying to pull up where I can get just the

476
00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:40,200
Speaker 5: whole Saints list in one thing. Let me see, let's

477
00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:44,200
Speaker 5: say no, there we go, all right, so they go,

478
00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:48,680
Speaker 5: Sean Payton takes over. In two thousand and six, they

479
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Speaker 5: go ten and six and lose. This is with Drew Brees,

480
00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:51,919
Speaker 5: Payton and Breeze coming together.

481
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Speaker 3: They go.

482
00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:58,280
Speaker 5: Ten and six and lose in the NFC Championship Game.

483
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Speaker 5: Then seven and nine, eight and eight, then thirteen and

484
00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:06,280
Speaker 5: three and they win the Super Bowl. Then eleven and

485
00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:08,520
Speaker 5: five losing the wild card, thirteen and three losing the

486
00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:11,679
Speaker 5: division round, seven and nine, and that's the year that

487
00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:12,560
Speaker 5: he suspended.

488
00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:15,720
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's right, then Kromer are.

489
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Speaker 5: The coaches that year.

490
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Speaker 3: That's right.

491
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Speaker 5: Then he goes eleven and five. Then it's seven and nine,

492
00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:24,320
Speaker 5: seven and nine, seven and nine, three straight, three straight,

493
00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:26,600
Speaker 5: seven and nine is then eleven and five lost in

494
00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:28,439
Speaker 5: the division round, thirteen and three lost in the conference

495
00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:30,720
Speaker 5: thirteen three lost wild card, twelve and four lost in

496
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Speaker 5: the division round, and that's the end of the Drew

497
00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:34,760
Speaker 5: Brees ear The next year goes nine and eight, and

498
00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:36,120
Speaker 5: then that is it for Sean Payton.

499
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Speaker 3: So the eleven and from seventeen to twenty, they're eleven

500
00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:42,399
Speaker 3: and five, thirteen, three thirteen, three, twelve and four. That's

501
00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:47,280
Speaker 3: Michael Thomas, Alvin Kamara, like all of that, Mars mark Ingram,

502
00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:50,800
Speaker 3: mark Ingram, that's all of that coming home to roost

503
00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:52,240
Speaker 3: right there. It's all that talent.

504
00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:55,320
Speaker 5: Let's see if is Colston still around at that point?

505
00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:59,560
Speaker 5: It might be twenty nineteen Saints Drew Brees and Teddy

506
00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:07,720
Speaker 5: Bridgeway A quarterbacks, Michael Thomas, leading receiver, Alvin Kamara, Latavius Murray.

507
00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:11,960
Speaker 5: That you're no, no Colson little ten Ted ginn yep,

508
00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:15,320
Speaker 5: I'm going to eighteen because you know they had the

509
00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:17,560
Speaker 5: run where they had like the Deverie Henderson's and all that. Yeah,

510
00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:19,880
Speaker 5: so Ted, this is Ted Gin again, leading receiver, Michael

511
00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:22,880
Speaker 5: Thomas fourteen hundred yards, Kamara is seven hundred. Nobody else

512
00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:24,520
Speaker 5: had five armed. They had to get tray Quan Smith,

513
00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:27,399
Speaker 5: Ben Watson, Ted Gin Junior, Taysom Hill. Taysom Hill has

514
00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:28,360
Speaker 5: been around for a long time.

515
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Speaker 3: He has he got like a ten year career. Yeah,

516
00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:34,879
Speaker 3: dang near Yeah, out of them. So other news of

517
00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:36,680
Speaker 3: the day in the National Football League, the Miami Dolphins

518
00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:38,240
Speaker 3: a fired head coach Mike McDaniel.

519
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:43,320
Speaker 5: So to me, that says that they're of course well

520
00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:45,199
Speaker 5: and they were a team that we mentioned yesterday. Is

521
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Speaker 5: a non opening opening for Harbaugh.

522
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Speaker 3: But it's a pride.

523
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Speaker 5: They let him do a whole press conference that was

524
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Speaker 5: on Monday, and he's talking about how the quarterback it's

525
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Speaker 5: going to be a competition. We don't know if the

526
00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:57,359
Speaker 5: solution's in house or out of the house.

527
00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:57,720
Speaker 7: Yep.

528
00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:02,840
Speaker 5: And then today, Yeah, they get the staff together and

529
00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:03,960
Speaker 5: they say, actually he's out.

530
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:08,360
Speaker 3: Apparently I heard Albert Breer saying this this morning down

531
00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:12,840
Speaker 3: in Columbus that that every GM that they had talked

532
00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:16,680
Speaker 3: to previous to this was somebody with connections to Mike.

533
00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:21,640
Speaker 3: And then once the John Harbaugh thing happened, this changed.

534
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:27,760
Speaker 3: Now aside from climate, why would you take that job

535
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:29,040
Speaker 3: if you're John Harbaugh?

536
00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:42,560
Speaker 5: Ey Chan's really good, defensive solid. The division is tough

537
00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:46,959
Speaker 5: now with New England. Yeah, uh, it's a it's an

538
00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:48,680
Speaker 5: it's easy to get players to play there.

539
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:51,800
Speaker 3: No state taxes, state tax very similar to the Cardinal job.

540
00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:54,879
Speaker 3: Really owner that's much more aggressive when it comes to

541
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:58,320
Speaker 3: spending than Arizona, but both have great climate.

542
00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:05,879
Speaker 5: Yeah, it doesn't feel like a great one. I mean

543
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:08,240
Speaker 5: we got now a quarter of the league open, that's right.

544
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:11,760
Speaker 5: Are we ranking these at some point eight?

545
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:16,320
Speaker 3: It feels eight of them. Yeah, So if we could

546
00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:20,000
Speaker 3: have more like if somebody's if John Harbaugh says, you

547
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,119
Speaker 3: know what, I'd really like to coach the Washington Commanders,

548
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:23,560
Speaker 3: or right, or.

549
00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:26,399
Speaker 5: I feel like Ordell's So I think we would all

550
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:28,880
Speaker 5: agree Baltimore's probably number one.

551
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:35,359
Speaker 3: Baltimore's number one unless you want to control everything. Baltimore's

552
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:37,600
Speaker 3: number one. If you just want to coach and try

553
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:39,480
Speaker 3: to go win a Super Bowl, they're number one. If

554
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:42,080
Speaker 3: you want full control and you want to you want

555
00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:44,879
Speaker 3: to pick the groceries, cook the dinner, set the table,

556
00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:47,080
Speaker 3: all of it, then it's not Baltimore because they have

557
00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:48,320
Speaker 3: the front offices.

558
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:48,840
Speaker 6: And yah.

559
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:52,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, it just feels like you've got your right time

560
00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:53,280
Speaker 5: MVP quarterback.

561
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:55,240
Speaker 3: Yes, that makes it for sure.

562
00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:55,760
Speaker 6: For sure.

563
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:57,159
Speaker 3: The only thing that would stop it is what I

564
00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 3: just said. If you if you just want to have

565
00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:00,960
Speaker 3: all of the power and build your own operation.

566
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:05,000
Speaker 5: And then I think you can probably rank them in

567
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 5: a variety of ways. To me, there's a next kind

568
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:11,480
Speaker 5: of a group of jobs that, depending on what's important

569
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:12,679
Speaker 5: to you, would would be.

570
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 3: So I would say.

571
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 5: Atlanta, I would say US, I would say the New

572
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:25,679
Speaker 5: York Giants. I think I'd even put Vegas in there,

573
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:27,119
Speaker 5: even though it's a very difficult division, but you do

574
00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:28,920
Speaker 5: have the number one overall pick. Like if you're a

575
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:33,119
Speaker 5: gaga about Mendoza that you say, Okay, I've got my quarterback.

576
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:42,359
Speaker 3: What am I missing? Jets? You got them all? So Miami, Tennessee, Cleveland, Atlanta,

577
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:44,359
Speaker 3: Arizona Giants, Vegas, Baltimore.

578
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:47,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, so I would put I really think the only

579
00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 5: one right now that is pretty unattractive is the Jets.

580
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:53,160
Speaker 3: Well it's still it's not open, and I'm.

581
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:55,439
Speaker 5: Sorry Arizona Arizona, I mean, is the one that is

582
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:56,240
Speaker 5: not attractive.

583
00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 3: I think Arizona and Miami are kind of in the

584
00:27:57,880 --> 00:27:58,320
Speaker 3: same boat.

585
00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 5: So that's what I actually had them down here. Ye

586
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:03,600
Speaker 5: as you could say, you can make the case like

587
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:07,840
Speaker 5: a Falcon's easy division, real skill talent on offense, Browns

588
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:10,159
Speaker 5: we have super Bowl defense if you can get and

589
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 5: maybe you like your door, but if you know that

590
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:15,719
Speaker 5: they're going to put resources in the offense the Giants.

591
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 5: If you are somebody who likes Dart and Scataboo and neighbors, yeah.

592
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:20,400
Speaker 3: That's not to light Night's soul.

593
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 5: Nucleus Vegas, you have the number one pick.

594
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:25,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, you like Dante mor for Nanna Mendoz a pick one.

595
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:27,360
Speaker 5: And then Tennessee cam Ward, I thought, play pretty wealthy

596
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 5: and see might have a quarterback there. Arizona is no

597
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:33,200
Speaker 5: quarterback and in a brutal division, and Miami right now

598
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:35,199
Speaker 5: is no quarterback and in a brutal division.

599
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:38,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I agree. I see it the same way

600
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 3: you do. And then Atlanta's kind of the I did

601
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:43,480
Speaker 3: some stuff down in Atlanta today for a buddy, and

602
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 3: he was asked me about like Kevin. I did a

603
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:47,920
Speaker 3: hit for them about Kevin and stuff and like would

604
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 3: it be a fit and all that, and I'm like,

605
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 3: and the one thing he asked me was this situation

606
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:54,720
Speaker 3: of like, you know, they really believe that Michael Pennix

607
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 3: is a franchise quarterback, Like how would Kevin be with

608
00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:58,400
Speaker 3: the young quarterback? So I think it'd be great. I mean,

609
00:28:58,400 --> 00:28:59,040
Speaker 3: I think you'd be fine.

610
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, weaponry, be.

611
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 3: All of those things. But that's the one thing that's

612
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 3: interesting about them, Like Atlanta's ready made. Their defense made

613
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 3: massive leaps this year and had a great draft last year.

614
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 3: They have big time weapons on offense. It's just would

615
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 3: be like do you like Pennix?

616
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 5: Correct, But and and from Kevin's case, you could one

617
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:27,960
Speaker 5: hundred percent say, let's we've got this restructure, We're gonna

618
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:29,720
Speaker 5: let Kirk go bring him back on a better and

619
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 5: easier deal, or we'll deal with it next year and

620
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 5: we'll do them with post June one after next season

621
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:36,080
Speaker 5: because you have a low salary cap hit the first

622
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 5: year and Kirk Cousins can be his bridge.

623
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 3: They won for in a row with Kirk Cousins. This

624
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:43,560
Speaker 3: they sure did. Yeah. Yeah, if you don't love Penix,

625
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 3: like just go with Cousins for another year. Yeah, probably

626
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 3: win the division.

627
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 5: Yes, with they would be I think if the fans

628
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 5: you went there and you have Cousins, they would be

629
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:52,040
Speaker 5: the favorite.

630
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 3: To win the division. I agree, Yes, I think so.

631
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 5: I think that's a great a great place for him.

632
00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 3: Yeah. And I think Miami and Arizona almost like they're

633
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 3: the Spider Man. Yeah, it's like the same problem. Somebody

634
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:04,360
Speaker 3: said to me this morning, like would you trade would

635
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 3: that be a situation where like TWA goes to Arizona,

636
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 3: Kyler goes to Miami. I said, I think you're doing

637
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:10,440
Speaker 3: two a little bit of disservice there. Like two has

638
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 3: a forty six hundred yard seventy percent completion Pro Bowl season, Yes,

639
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 3: twenty six touchdowns, thirteen picks, Like he's got that in

640
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 3: the bats in his resume. Kyler has not had that. No, Kyler,

641
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:22,680
Speaker 3: you have to build. I think Tua could play in

642
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:24,120
Speaker 3: a lot of different systems like you do with the

643
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 3: health I get it, but like Kyler, you almost have

644
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 3: to build your whole operation to fit him.

645
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 5: Like honestly, I think Tua in Arizona with McBride and

646
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:37,480
Speaker 5: Wilson and Harrison would be good. He could just end

647
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 5: up there. Yeah, that'd be a good place for him.

648
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 3: And I have no idea with Kyler, Like that's a

649
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:42,480
Speaker 3: real that's a choice.

650
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, he threw a lot of picks this year relative

651
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 5: to you know, his touchdowns. But I mean, yeah, you're

652
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:49,480
Speaker 5: talking about a guy that's led the league into the

653
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Speaker 5: last three years, he's either led the league in actually

654
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Speaker 5: in three of the last four years, he's either led

655
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Speaker 5: the league in completion percentage, passing yards, yeah, or yards

656
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 5: per attempt and quarterback rating, so he said, prior to

657
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 5: this year, he's had three straight years with a one

658
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 5: hundred plus quarterback rating three straight years. Yeah, he's not

659
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:12,240
Speaker 5: a JABBRONI no worry. It's hard to be like I'm

660
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 5: putting everything Nona right, but because you know, he's won

661
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 5: play away from maybe never playing again. But no, he's

662
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 5: he's got a pretty good resume. Kyler Murray. I feel

663
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 5: like we saw his best game ever even in person

664
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 5: in twenty nineteen. It was him and that running back

665
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 5: ended up coming here with us. Oh gosh, what was

666
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 5: that guy's name, Kenyan Drake.

667
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 3: That was the best game of it at Alabama.

668
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, they once scored thirty eight. Kyler was nineteen to

669
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 5: twenty five two nineteen a touchdown, ran for fifty six

670
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:47,600
Speaker 5: and Drake had won thirty seven and four.

671
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 4: Oh that funny those games. Yeah, I don't know what

672
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 4: happens with Kyler, no idea. We had a great weekend

673
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 4: at a resort in Arizona. That also highlight because once

674
00:31:57,560 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 4: we kicked off, it was not so was it that

675
00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 4: the Billboart Biltmore. That's a great place to be and

676
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 4: we got in on a Friday. No one gets hurt.

677
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 3: That might have the boat. Does Does Phoenix have the

678
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:15,480
Speaker 3: most resorts per square miles of any city in the

679
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 3: United States? I think they do, but it's close.

680
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 5: So the only thing that I would say no is

681
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 5: if you think about like South Beach.

682
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 3: Actually I think the rector might be Orlando with Disney.

683
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 5: If your resort's full city. Yeah, but I think of

684
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:32,360
Speaker 5: a stretch. It's like that starts of Southie. It's just

685
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 5: a hotel, hotel, hotel, But.

686
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 3: Like none of them are like resorts like the desert.

687
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 3: Like Paradise Valley has got like six baller resorts with

688
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 3: golf courses with Yeah, like they don't have that in Miami. Yeah,

689
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 3: they don't have that. I think they.

690
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 5: Probably ye Western Land or whatever it's called.

691
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, that JW. Camelback's unbelievable. The Princess, the Biltmore, there's

692
00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 3: a boulder. There's a Four Seasons, the Four Seasons Troon

693
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 3: that's up north.

694
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 4: Yeah.

695
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:03,960
Speaker 3: I mean there's we just.

696
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 5: Told us a second and like forty minutes outside of

697
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 5: the city.

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00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, I mean there's like we just did like

699
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 3: six Off the top of our head, there might be

700
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 3: like a dozen in Paradise Valley. Yeah, that four seasons.

701
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 5: It's got to place as a great restaurant.

702
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:19,960
Speaker 3: That's by gosh, what's that mountain called that? It's right next. Yeah, beautiful,

703
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 3: I remember that, but it's beautiful. Yeah, no, it might

704
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:25,239
Speaker 3: have the answer to that. But other than that, like

705
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 3: those two jobs, they're not made there.

706
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 7: Man.

707
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a lot to figure out there. Those are

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Speaker 3: as we head around the league. As we know, coaches

722
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 3: on teams with first round buyers of the playoff can

723
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:34,759
Speaker 3: interview for other jobs. So around this week we have

724
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 3: the following and you're gonna hear a lot of these names,

725
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 3: Like a lot of these are similar stuff. So let's

726
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:43,240
Speaker 3: start with the schedule for Broncos defensive coordinator Vance Joseph.

727
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:47,360
Speaker 3: He will interview for the Ravens, Giants and Raiders openings.

728
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:49,840
Speaker 3: To how is he going to do that all the skype?

729
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:53,280
Speaker 4: There's no way. I'm assuming it's virtual.

730
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:55,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, or you just said, everybody, fly to Denver and

731
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:56,239
Speaker 3: meet me here.

732
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 4: You could do. That's what I think you would probably do.

733
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:00,920
Speaker 4: You want you come here, come here and you can

734
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 4: meet me in Denver. Interviewed for the Titans job yesterday.

735
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 4: We'll interview for the Cardinal's job on Friday.

736
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:10,880
Speaker 5: So we have not requested Clint Kubiak, which is surprising

737
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:11,920
Speaker 5: to me, shocking to me.

738
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 3: Here are the Kubiak interview requests Ravens, Giants, Raiders, Cardinals,

739
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 3: and Falcons, and he can do it this week because

740
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 3: he's the coordinator of the c sucks. So we have

741
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:28,440
Speaker 3: not requested interview either one of these two gentlemen.

742
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 4: Correct.

743
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 5: No, And the Kubiak one is really surprising to me

744
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:35,400
Speaker 5: because that was a name that you and I had

745
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:40,360
Speaker 5: just kind of organically bandied about earlier because you know,

746
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:44,319
Speaker 5: hot young offensive coordinator makes sense, offense did very well

747
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:48,880
Speaker 5: this year. Comes from you know, obviously his last name

748
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 5: speaks for itself. Yeah, so that's that's a that's a

749
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 5: I'll be honest, that's a very big surprise to me.

750
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:55,959
Speaker 3: Me too.

751
00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 4: I'm looking up something right now that I saw and

752
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 4: it was from one of the radio hosts in Seattle

753
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:08,319
Speaker 4: and he also does like pre half and post does

754
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:11,760
Speaker 4: some sideline work for the for the Seahawks radio network.

755
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:16,239
Speaker 4: And he had something that let me see if I

756
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 4: can find it. But he he had questions about, uh

757
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 4: Kubiak being a head coach, if he was truly ready.

758
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:30,320
Speaker 3: I don't. I don't know, Like I as you're looking

759
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 3: for that, I'll just say this, like, did anybody know

760
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 3: for sure if Sean McVay was truly ready he was

761
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 3: the youngest head coach that it was crazy, like this

762
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 3: wonder kid, like, oh, you know, even Kyle with all

763
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 3: of the history that he had, is he ready for this?

764
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 3: Like Mike McDaniel got that. Mike McDaniel had a lot

765
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 3: of success in Miami. He did, and and he's a

766
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 3: guy that like so this kind of goes to like

767
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 3: what we you're saying yesterday in regard like with quarterbacks

768
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 3: and coaches. He just don't know. There is no way

769
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:04,239
Speaker 3: to know. There's some like Brabel, you know, yeah, John Harbaugh, Yeah,

770
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 3: that's gonna work where we go. And you've seen Frabel

771
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:09,319
Speaker 3: have success, but they've had previously. Like when Rabel was

772
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:12,880
Speaker 3: initially hired in Tennessee that having known him from Columbus

773
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 3: and known him on the Ohio State staff, I thought, wow,

774
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:18,400
Speaker 3: that is a quick assent from like position coach to

775
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:21,399
Speaker 3: head coach of the Tennessee Titans. And then he crushed it. Yeah,

776
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 3: you know, he had the personality for it, but you

777
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 3: didn't know if he could handle all the rest of it.

778
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:25,840
Speaker 3: And he handled it easy.

779
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 4: This is what the guy says. Uh, Dave, I guess

780
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:32,440
Speaker 4: his nickname is Softy Waller.

781
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:33,239
Speaker 7: Right.

782
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 4: Uh, here's my take on Kubiak. Lots of coaches are

783
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:39,400
Speaker 4: not made to be CEOs of college or professional football teams.

784
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:42,959
Speaker 4: Lots of great coaches are lifetime assistants. And thriving that role.

785
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:45,920
Speaker 4: From the limited time I have spent around Clint Kubiak,

786
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:47,719
Speaker 4: I think he is better off remaining as an OC,

787
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:49,360
Speaker 4: But good for him if he wants to take that

788
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 4: next step.

789
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 5: Though, I was just kind of like, Wow, so you're

790
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 5: saying this guy does sidelines for the Seahawks.

791
00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 4: Stand by he was on the sideline when we've play

792
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 4: there last year. Yeah, he's kJ R three to seven

793
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 4: every day.

794
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:10,319
Speaker 3: And he's on the Seahawks radio broadcast like he's like

795
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:12,799
Speaker 3: their version of Gerrod what we are.

796
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 4: I don't know if he's still he was when we

797
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:23,400
Speaker 4: were there. That feels like, hmm, that's pretty That's interesting

798
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:26,400
Speaker 4: from somebody who would if he doesn't he do that job.

799
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Speaker 5: That would be if he does that job, that would

800
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 5: I don't know that he might not might not have

801
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 5: it anymore, might not do that for much longer. That

802
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:36,760
Speaker 5: is not how you go about that at all. Although

803
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 5: I mean it's kind of like when the let's go back,

804
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 5: let's revisit one of the more stupefying moments in Cleveland

805
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:45,880
Speaker 5: Brown's daily history.

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00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:49,359
Speaker 4: Okay, I just had this conversation over the.

807
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 5: Weekend, and if I'm I think I'm I mean to

808
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:55,120
Speaker 5: remember where it's I'm remembering the exact opposite. But I'm

809
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 5: pretty sure we had the voice of USC on we did.

810
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:01,440
Speaker 3: That was before my time, so that was right before

811
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 3: I started. It was because it was it was in

812
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 3: regard to Donald, and I came on in August that

813
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 3: after we had already so it was you guys were

814
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:13,359
Speaker 3: doing that was before I got here.

815
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:17,400
Speaker 5: The voice of the USC or like, I still have

816
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:19,880
Speaker 5: that clue, who would you take? And basically he's like

817
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:27,839
Speaker 5: Josh Rosen the words like what wait, hold on, wait

818
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 5: what what did.

819
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 7: You just say?

820
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:29,800
Speaker 3: Yeah?

821
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 5: By the way, Sam Donald.

822
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 4: He is not currently their sideline guy. Okay, yeah, I

823
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 4: didn't think he heard mister Sicilian, Thank you Ciciliano.

824
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 5: Yes, Andrew Andrews out there in the mix doing all

825
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:42,759
Speaker 5: the things he's doing.

826
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 4: What do you think he'll join us at four thirty?

827
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:49,280
Speaker 4: I know, I don't know him. Probably he was in Vegas.

828
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 4: He's in Vegas. He was in Vegas. I just thought maybe, well,

829
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 4: it's sad words. I know that they had like a

830
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:59,359
Speaker 4: lot of things going on. It's the technology release this week.

831
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 4: What's going on?

832
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, so yeah, okay, A couple of bashes out there.

833
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:07,319
Speaker 3: You could see him at Green Valley Ranch. Maybe off

834
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 3: the script.

835
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Speaker 4: Maybe he was interviewing for the Raider head coaching job.

836
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 4: Reckless speculation.

837
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:17,279
Speaker 3: He'll be back at Lascala. We'll get him there. It's

838
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:17,839
Speaker 3: all gonna work.

839
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 4: He'll join us, Yeah, join us from the.

840
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 3: From a bungalow at the Beverly Hills Hotel.

841
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 4: No doubt.

842
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:27,840
Speaker 5: It's a hop and skipping a jump away.

843
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 3: It really is. So uh, there you go on that

844
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:36,440
Speaker 3: side of thing. Uh. This part is in bold. Everything

845
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:38,960
Speaker 3: above is the closest parallel the NFL has to college football,

846
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 3: and it comes to meaning a messiness of its schedule

847
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 3: for coaches take a new job. Would you change the system?

848
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 3: If so, how I think the only thing you well

849
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:51,040
Speaker 3: call it the college system is a disaster. But the

850
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:53,319
Speaker 3: I think the only thing from an NFL system that

851
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:56,359
Speaker 3: you could do is you could just put a put

852
00:40:56,400 --> 00:41:01,479
Speaker 3: a a full stop on all hiring processes until after

853
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 3: the Super Bowl and just move everything back a little bit.

854
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 3: That's that would probably do it. Like we're got to

855
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:09,879
Speaker 3: be getting close to Senior Bowl, though, aren't we? When

856
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 3: is that that's coming up in the next couple of

857
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 3: weeks end of the month, end of the month, so

858
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:16,319
Speaker 3: you could do that, or you could just you could wait.

859
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:17,880
Speaker 3: Honest you could just put it like a hold on

860
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:19,719
Speaker 3: it until super Bowl week because then it's only two

861
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 3: teams and those two coordinators. But honestly, you could probably

862
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 3: just wait until after the super Bowl to do all

863
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:25,759
Speaker 3: of this, just hold it until then.

864
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:27,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that for the teams that are on

865
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 5: a by getting it out this week, like listen, yes,

866
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 5: of course you need to be locked in, but these

867
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:33,280
Speaker 5: are guys that are getting ready for an opponent.

868
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Speaker 3: In a one week.

869
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Speaker 5: Yeah, right, So I don't feel that it's that bad

870
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:40,799
Speaker 5: for them. By the way, forty three minutes ago, so

871
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 5: three oh one, the Brown's official Twitter tweeted out, we're

872
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:49,279
Speaker 5: interviewing OC Tommy Reese for our head coach opening. Do

873
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 5: you think that for most people of our age, like

874
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:55,400
Speaker 5: you wouldn't say, he would that we just xed, Like,

875
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:57,239
Speaker 5: I think it a lot, Just like if I see

876
00:41:57,239 --> 00:41:59,400
Speaker 5: a camera that produces a picture that comes out of

877
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:01,400
Speaker 5: it that you can shake and it develops like that's

878
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 5: a polar rights.

879
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 3: A polar right, Yeah, that's a rare instance where the

880
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:10,359
Speaker 3: action is the apparatus, right. The Kleenex is the physical thing.

881
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 3: But now everything that is that is a clean is

882
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:15,240
Speaker 3: the Kleenex. That's what I mean. Yeah. So in other words,

883
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:17,839
Speaker 3: will no matter what happens, will they always be tweets? Yes,

884
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 3: I think they're always tweets, even like my kids don't

885
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:23,399
Speaker 3: aren't on this at all on the Twitter like NB

886
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 3: Beam Sun and anything. But NBC's not on this at all,

887
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:29,279
Speaker 3: has no interest in it. Like their generation, they don't,

888
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 3: they're not. They don't do that. Do your older kids

889
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 3: do that at all? Their TikTok or snap and they

890
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 3: just do all that nonsense. Yeah. Right, Sometimes you see

891
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 3: a kid go.

892
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:41,239
Speaker 5: Yeah, and then for a while it was like only

893
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 5: half of their it's the.

894
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 4: Gre in the booth on Sundays in a commercial break.

895
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:46,399
Speaker 5: Yeah, because I gotta get my snaps with the kids.

896
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:49,799
Speaker 4: We got streaks, got some Mike McDaniel vibes, I got Yeah,

897
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 4: you admit it, I do admit it.

898
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 3: I have a look at this is the snap streaks. Yeah.

899
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 5: So me and me and uh Artie Buckets are eight

900
00:42:57,200 --> 00:43:00,480
Speaker 5: hundred and fifteen days, Me and Bryce eight forty nine,

901
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:02,319
Speaker 5: So I must have lost arms for a second. And

902
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 5: then my tag team partner Josh Bishop eight sixteen.

903
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 3: Those that's incredible. Those are the three people. Yeah, they're

904
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:09,359
Speaker 3: all proud of these street daily basis. And then there's

905
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 3: like different versions. If it's a full face, that means

906
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:13,719
Speaker 3: you like the girl. If it's a partial face or

907
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:15,759
Speaker 3: no face, then you don't like them at all. Like

908
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:18,320
Speaker 3: NBC was explaining this to me, like, if it's no face,

909
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 3: like it's just a picture of the wall, then it's

910
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:22,479
Speaker 3: just like someone you snap with. If it's a half face,

911
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:24,319
Speaker 3: then it's or a partial then it's like, oh, this

912
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:26,399
Speaker 3: is someone I'm talking to. If it's a full face,

913
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:28,719
Speaker 3: and then they're like your girlfriend or your buddy. So

914
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 3: that was his kind of definitely, that's hilarious.

915
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, they have like a filter now where it puts

916
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:34,920
Speaker 5: like six and seven on your cheeks and so like

917
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 5: basically right now, it's just a lot of six seven

918
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:38,400
Speaker 5: going back. And I always do it on or I

919
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:41,399
Speaker 5: put word filters on Luca and send and send those.

920
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 3: Sometimes I say those because some of those are pretty.

921
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 3: I say, anyway, if some of those are pretty, I'm like,

922
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 3: wouldn't it be easier to just call her? No, it's

923
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:50,239
Speaker 3: not even about that. Wouldn't that be easier to like

924
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:52,920
Speaker 3: just talk to her for twenty minutes versus being is

925
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:54,799
Speaker 3: just not even a strap to this phone for an

926
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:57,120
Speaker 3: hour and a half, sending still pictures back and forth

927
00:43:57,160 --> 00:43:57,760
Speaker 3: like an idiot.

928
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:01,920
Speaker 5: It's it's remarkable, Yes it is.

929
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:05,239
Speaker 3: It's a remarkable. It's really sucks. It's what it does.

930
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:08,920
Speaker 3: It's really an absurd existence, just absurd.

931
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:11,239
Speaker 4: To do that. It really is no human contact, just

932
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:14,760
Speaker 4: still images back. Look and now that's great.

933
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 5: A classic with his mustache and his top hat.

934
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 3: And looks like he would open like I could see

935
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:22,800
Speaker 3: him opening like maybe a theater in dead Yeah, exactly,

936
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 3: like he's ready to go in that outfit.

937
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, keV, keV, did you find that clip?

938
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 7: Man?

939
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:29,719
Speaker 3: I dug deep and I think I did find.

940
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:30,759
Speaker 4: I knew it's there.

941
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:33,320
Speaker 3: I know it is the USC voice of USC.

942
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:33,839
Speaker 4: Yeah?

943
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:35,799
Speaker 3: Is this guy still the voice of USC? Do we know?

944
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:38,880
Speaker 4: I don't know the answer to that.

945
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:39,799
Speaker 3: Go ahead, keV.

946
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:42,880
Speaker 5: If there was one thing that stands out to you

947
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:45,800
Speaker 5: about sam Donold that would make you say, Cleveland Brown's

948
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:48,920
Speaker 5: John Dorsey, you must take him number one overall to

949
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 5: build your franchise around.

950
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:50,719
Speaker 3: What would it be?

951
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:53,759
Speaker 5: I think they should take Josh Rosen actually.

952
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:53,879
Speaker 7: But.

953
00:44:55,680 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 5: Uh really hold on, tell, why do you say that Fucke?

954
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:05,280
Speaker 6: I think he's better. Uh, he's better built for the pros.

955
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:08,799
Speaker 3: It was rocking that one.

956
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:12,719
Speaker 5: He just casually dropped it and we were like, wait, day,

957
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:14,920
Speaker 5: it's even crazier that that was a response to a

958
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 5: direct question about Sam Darnman. I thought it was, you know, like,

959
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:19,239
Speaker 5: you're who would you take number one?

960
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 7: No?

961
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:21,799
Speaker 8: No, no, And he just confirms he still the voice

962
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:25,799
Speaker 8: of yous. So here's how this happens. Yeah, there's how

963
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:28,719
Speaker 8: this happened. The guy's name is Pete Arborgas. Here's how

964
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:31,880
Speaker 8: this happens. Pete has been the voice of USC athletics

965
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:36,959
Speaker 8: since nineteen eighty nine. He answers to no one, that's

966
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 8: Marty Brenneman, Like, that's that level of.

967
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:44,560
Speaker 3: My guy. Gene Deckerhoff had just retired Florida. He did. Yeah, well,

968
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:45,719
Speaker 3: I don't know if it was official, but he had.

969
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:49,440
Speaker 3: He basically had like a final press conference down in Tampa.

970
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 3: He told this great story about how he asked Bobby

971
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 3: Bowden if he could do it, because at that time

972
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 3: in eighty nine, when they asked him to do it,

973
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 3: he was just doing Florida State Athletics. He had asked Bound.

974
00:45:57,040 --> 00:45:58,840
Speaker 3: Then like, why Dad took Bound? He goes because I

975
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 3: hosted his show at six point in the morning on Sundays,

976
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 3: so he had to agree to host that at another

977
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:06,840
Speaker 3: time for me to get to Tampa. And so what

978
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 3: they basically did is no matter when they got back

979
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:10,239
Speaker 3: from a Florida State football game on a Saturday, and

980
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 3: a lot of those were night games, they would tape

981
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:14,479
Speaker 3: that show right after they got home, and then Gene

982
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 3: would be driven to Tampa. If they had home games,

983
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:19,400
Speaker 3: right have to get on a flight to Seeattle or wherever.

984
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 3: But that that's how it all worked. But yeah, so like,

985
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:24,440
Speaker 3: who's he answering to this guy? I answered anybody?

986
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 5: Clearly not because that's a crazy think about how that

987
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:29,719
Speaker 5: was a direct question about Sam Darnold. Yeah, what is

988
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:31,320
Speaker 5: it about Sam Darnold that would make you tell the

989
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:31,960
Speaker 5: Browns to take him?

990
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:32,319
Speaker 4: Number one?

991
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 3: He said, I'd take Josh Rosen. Okay, I wonder if

992
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:40,719
Speaker 3: it was it. I'm like, why I think that? How

993
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:43,800
Speaker 3: did that not get Did that get a lot of attention?

994
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:44,759
Speaker 3: In Los Angeles?

995
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:48,320
Speaker 4: We went to break and I'm like, boy, I'm gonna

996
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:51,279
Speaker 4: send this clip out to people, but I don't know

997
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 4: if this ends well for this guy, I don't want

998
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:54,800
Speaker 4: to get this guy fired.

999
00:46:55,800 --> 00:47:00,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just wonder, like, is there was he did?

1000
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 3: Do you guys remember if it went viral at all

1001
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 3: in LA because that was eighteen, so it would have

1002
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:06,760
Speaker 3: there would have been a viral viral was possible?

1003
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 4: Pro Football Talk ran with it. Yeah, I know that.

1004
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:12,359
Speaker 3: I mean that's a massive thing for like the voice

1005
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 3: of USC to say that I take the quarterback at

1006
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:19,319
Speaker 3: UCLA instead. Yeah, right, Sam? Ever due to him? I wonder, man,

1007
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:23,440
Speaker 3: did they lose to UCLA in eighteen? Let's see, that

1008
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 3: would have been the seventeen season, seventeen USC football. Oh,

1009
00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 3: they played Ohio State that year in the uh that

1010
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:36,959
Speaker 3: was Ohio State they.

1011
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:39,279
Speaker 5: Played in the USC one twenty eight to twenty three.

1012
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 5: They did, Yeah, they beat them.

1013
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:44,799
Speaker 3: I mean there only lost that year to ranked teams.

1014
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 3: They lost.

1015
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:48,080
Speaker 5: Josh Rosen was thirty two to fifty two, four to

1016
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 5: twenty one, three touchdowns and a pick. Darnold was seventeen

1017
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 5: of twenty eight for two sixty four and a touchdown.

1018
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:57,760
Speaker 5: Ronald Jones Remember Ronald Jones one twenty two and two touchdowns.

1019
00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 3: Huh? Yeah, his only losses that year at usc They

1020
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 3: lost at Washington State, lost at Notre Dame, and against

1021
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:06,839
Speaker 3: Ohio State in the Cotton Bowl.

1022
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:07,680
Speaker 7: That's it.

1023
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:10,120
Speaker 3: That's the list, all right, there you.

1024
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 5: Go, kids, that that that's one of the crazy I mean,

1025
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:16,319
Speaker 5: we had dabos seen one of the craziest being like,

1026
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:19,440
Speaker 5: don't be that team that passes on Sammy Watkins. He

1027
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:23,040
Speaker 5: did a whole like old sermon, don't be that team.

1028
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 3: You know, Sammy Watkins's Sammy Watkins. If Marv can't get

1029
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:29,360
Speaker 3: it switched around in out in the desert, there's a

1030
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:31,400
Speaker 3: Sammy Watkins vibe to it. Because I don't understand how

1031
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:33,799
Speaker 3: Sammy Watkins didn't go. I mean, I would have thought

1032
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:34,719
Speaker 3: anything he was gonna go.

1033
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:38,000
Speaker 5: I want to say, though, and maybe I'm miss misremembering,

1034
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 5: like Sammy Watkins at least started out his career sixty five,

1035
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 5: nine eighty two and six averaging fifteen yards catch. In

1036
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 5: the next year sixty ten, one thousand and forty seven

1037
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:48,120
Speaker 5: and nine averaging seventeen and a half yards catch. Then

1038
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:50,680
Speaker 5: he gets hurt, but he had four point thirty averaging

1039
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:53,400
Speaker 5: fifteen point four catch through eight games, and then he

1040
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:55,239
Speaker 5: was never the same sense, but at least like he

1041
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 5: had it. He does have a one thousand yard nine

1042
00:48:57,040 --> 00:48:58,440
Speaker 5: touchdown season on his resume.

1043
00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:02,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, coming up next, we head to the

1044
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:04,839
Speaker 3: podium and Grant Delpit. You're listening to Cleveland Browns Daily

1045
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:06,120
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1046
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:17,680
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1047
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1049
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1050
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1051
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:34,280
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1052
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:36,960
Speaker 7: Anything about the last twenty four hours surprise you.

1053
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:40,040
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1054
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 9: First of all, I just want to say that, you know,

1055
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:48,040
Speaker 9: shout to Kenada Man six six years success, you know,

1056
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:53,799
Speaker 9: great god, great coach, and I know he's gonna land

1057
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:56,400
Speaker 9: on his feet and stay around the game. So you know,

1058
00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 9: he's got a lot more to offer it to some

1059
00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:02,200
Speaker 9: other teams out there. So our relationship has grown over

1060
00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:04,520
Speaker 9: the past you know, six years, we gotten closer, so

1061
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:08,000
Speaker 9: you know, I appreciate him for everything he's done for

1062
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:11,040
Speaker 9: the team and myself honestly, So uh, stop for.

1063
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 7: Saying that, and it's surprising.

1064
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:18,919
Speaker 9: Yes, you know, but we didn't have success this year

1065
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:21,759
Speaker 9: or uh last year as well, so you know, we

1066
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:25,359
Speaker 9: know that we gotta be better, and you know, I

1067
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:27,480
Speaker 9: know that they're gonna take steps to do that, and

1068
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:29,160
Speaker 9: we gotta do our part as players as well.

1069
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:32,640
Speaker 7: So great you make that haven't deserved to be part.

1070
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:35,760
Speaker 9: Of uh you know, I don't think that's my decision,

1071
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:38,480
Speaker 9: but you know, I think I know this league is

1072
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:43,000
Speaker 9: uh based off of success and results, so you know,

1073
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 9: of course somebody has to you know, it's gotta be

1074
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:47,480
Speaker 9: somebody's far at the end of the day.

1075
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:50,840
Speaker 7: And you know, so that's that's the job.

1076
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 9: Of a That's just it comes with being a head

1077
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:54,560
Speaker 9: coach and a player in this league. You know, it's

1078
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:56,600
Speaker 9: it's a result based league, so you know, you know,

1079
00:50:56,640 --> 00:50:57,879
Speaker 9: we know that we just gotta be better.

1080
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:02,640
Speaker 10: You felt about uh eight wins the last two years,

1081
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:04,359
Speaker 10: which you obviously wasn't good enough.

1082
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 7: Yeah, thank you guys all some team.

1083
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:07,920
Speaker 6: Better than that?

1084
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:10,359
Speaker 7: Do you agree with that?

1085
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Speaker 10: And then also too, why weren't ye really more years?

1086
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 11: Well?

1087
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:16,799
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, I I think to the last question,

1088
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:18,839
Speaker 9: I think that's the question everybody would wanna answer. Right,

1089
00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:23,200
Speaker 9: but you know, I obviously it wasn't good enough. Eight

1090
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:25,680
Speaker 9: wins in two years. It's it's not what we in

1091
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:27,560
Speaker 9: the business of doing. You know, we're in the business

1092
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:30,600
Speaker 9: of winning, and we weren't doing enough of it. So

1093
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:35,200
Speaker 9: you know, something's gotta change. Something had to change. And uh,

1094
00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:37,799
Speaker 9: you know, it's not just you can't pig it on

1095
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:39,320
Speaker 9: one person of the wins and losses.

1096
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:42,440
Speaker 7: So it's a it's a it comes down to everybody,

1097
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:47,200
Speaker 7: and you know, we just need more wins. Y concern

1098
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:49,280
Speaker 7: that as a result of this, Schwarts.

1099
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:53,600
Speaker 9: May leaf, Uh, yeah, that would be concerned.

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00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:53,880
Speaker 7: You know.

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00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:58,600
Speaker 9: I think that I said, I think we've had over

1102
00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:02,120
Speaker 9: the past three years accumulated you know, a number one defense.

1103
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:05,040
Speaker 9: So I think it goes without saying what kind of

1104
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:09,960
Speaker 9: coach he is and the the energy he brings. Look,

1105
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:13,040
Speaker 9: I I think coach Schwartz is gonna be a uh

1106
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:16,040
Speaker 9: a great he still got it help, you know, type

1107
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:18,439
Speaker 9: of head coach. So you know, he's a fiery guy

1108
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:21,839
Speaker 9: and uh, you know, I vouched for him. So and uh,

1109
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:26,120
Speaker 9: I think that he's taking our defense and and brought

1110
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:27,839
Speaker 9: it to an elite level and kept it there.

1111
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:30,960
Speaker 7: So tried to coach Schwartz, so.

1112
00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 11: He Alongo's lines, Uh grant, whether it's the Chib, whether

1113
00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:36,279
Speaker 11: it's somebody else.

1114
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:38,880
Speaker 3: What do you think the organization needs some.

1115
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:42,480
Speaker 9: Sort of the next leader in their Yeah, you know,

1116
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:44,719
Speaker 9: I don't make those decisions, but you know, I I

1117
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:48,160
Speaker 9: would just say it's simple terms of U a good leader,

1118
00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:51,560
Speaker 9: you know, a leader of men, and somebody's gonna be

1119
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:54,200
Speaker 9: firing and and help guys, you know, get to that

1120
00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:57,920
Speaker 9: mentality of you know, playing ball. Cause I I think

1121
00:52:57,920 --> 00:53:00,080
Speaker 9: it's more than just exiting those in this league. I

1122
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:03,880
Speaker 9: think you need uh, somebody that you you know, somebody

1123
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:05,319
Speaker 9: that's not afraid to leave in the front.

1124
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:14,480
Speaker 10: So yeahs are close enough to look up a few changes,

1125
00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:16,680
Speaker 10: hit more with this next season than you.

1126
00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:17,719
Speaker 6: Did yeah last two years.

1127
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 9: Yeah, I think, as we know, this league is the

1128
00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:25,280
Speaker 9: wins and losses are just like you walk in the tyrope,

1129
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:30,879
Speaker 9: you know. And it's not that you know, we don't

1130
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 9: have every piece. It's just putting some guys in the

1131
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:37,239
Speaker 9: right positions and and stuff like that could be as

1132
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:39,240
Speaker 9: simple as changing a few positions or whatever.

1133
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:39,560
Speaker 7: You know.

1134
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:45,440
Speaker 9: So obviously we are great, good players and even NFL's

1135
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:48,680
Speaker 9: it's the best you know kind of competition we're gonna get.

1136
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:53,479
Speaker 7: So I think we got the pieces manager putting together.

1137
00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:56,919
Speaker 4: Did he your berry talk to the team?

1138
00:53:57,239 --> 00:53:57,759
Speaker 7: Yeah?

1139
00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:01,000
Speaker 4: What was his message in what's your trust level with him?

1140
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 10: He's gonna run the coaching surgeon, stick around and try

1141
00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:04,600
Speaker 10: to fix it.

1142
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:06,200
Speaker 7: We all know it.

1143
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:09,560
Speaker 9: Be is a very smart guy, to say the least.

1144
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:12,520
Speaker 9: The message to the team was just and everybody stay together,

1145
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:17,040
Speaker 9: you know, be smart and offseason, appreciate Kevin for what

1146
00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:20,480
Speaker 9: he's done, and you know that's that's the main thing.

1147
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:23,759
Speaker 7: So you know, we we lead the genius work to him.

1148
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:27,839
Speaker 7: Right Like this said, the first time you've gone into

1149
00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:30,080
Speaker 7: the job, I'm not going to.

1150
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:31,480
Speaker 4: Coach kid, so that.

1151
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:35,919
Speaker 9: At the end of the day, you know, I can't

1152
00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:37,600
Speaker 9: make those decisions. But of course it's not.

1153
00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:40,920
Speaker 7: Uh. I would say the idea both to be in.

1154
00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:44,040
Speaker 9: But all I could do is focus on what you

1155
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:48,440
Speaker 9: can do as a player and.

1156
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:48,600
Speaker 7: Let the higher ups make the decisions.

1157
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:52,080
Speaker 11: Man, go back to Jim, there's not many defenses in

1158
00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:54,480
Speaker 11: the league that run, you know, a similar system to

1159
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:56,319
Speaker 11: what you guys do with It just seems like.

1160
00:54:56,239 --> 00:54:58,239
Speaker 7: You're kind of built to.

1161
00:54:57,640 --> 00:54:58,440
Speaker 6: Play his style.

1162
00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:00,920
Speaker 11: So I guess how important is that you would you

1163
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:04,960
Speaker 11: like to stay in the system or whatever techinosity that looks.

1164
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:05,920
Speaker 4: Like the story.

1165
00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:07,120
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's different.

1166
00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:09,640
Speaker 9: You know, I don't think anybody's really lining up one

1167
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:11,759
Speaker 9: high defense like us and doing the things we're doing,

1168
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:14,680
Speaker 9: you know, playing man and in disguise wise and changing

1169
00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:15,040
Speaker 9: it up.

1170
00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:18,200
Speaker 7: So maybe we'll see it more of that over the

1171
00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:21,160
Speaker 7: pats uh over the next few years, cause teams have

1172
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:21,880
Speaker 7: seen the success.

1173
00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:26,839
Speaker 9: But of course it's a unique defense and I feel like, yeah,

1174
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:29,239
Speaker 9: three years in it, you know, we've uh molded well

1175
00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:29,799
Speaker 9: with it, and.

1176
00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:31,520
Speaker 7: So you know, why not keep going with it?

1177
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:33,120
Speaker 6: Rat what was your overall there?

1178
00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:34,759
Speaker 4: When you guys are found the news, you're a lot.

1179
00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:38,840
Speaker 9: Room of your job, you know what I mean. At

1180
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:40,520
Speaker 9: the end of the day, the NFL is a business man.

1181
00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:43,440
Speaker 9: So of course, like I said, it's not ideal. And

1182
00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:46,600
Speaker 9: we feel for Kevin of course, just cause uh the great,

1183
00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:47,960
Speaker 9: great guy is the great.

1184
00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:49,239
Speaker 7: You know person, great coach he is.

1185
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:52,960
Speaker 9: But you know, like we understand this, this is a

1186
00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:53,799
Speaker 9: business at the end.

1187
00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:56,160
Speaker 7: Of the day, and we gotta we gotta keep going. Great.

1188
00:55:56,239 --> 00:56:00,640
Speaker 10: Did you maintaining consistency your your Disney business? Then you

1189
00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:03,560
Speaker 10: gus for the last three years it's been pretty good,

1190
00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:07,200
Speaker 10: and sending up means in that consistency he's going in

1191
00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:12,000
Speaker 10: a fourth year continuing that gets even harder. So just

1192
00:56:12,560 --> 00:56:14,480
Speaker 10: how do you do that when you going to change

1193
00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:17,480
Speaker 10: and you know, not knowing your film's gonna be here

1194
00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:17,839
Speaker 10: as well?

1195
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:20,239
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, well Jim's still here right now, so

1196
00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:23,880
Speaker 9: hopefully he uh stays, stays around and we don't have

1197
00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:26,000
Speaker 9: to change anything on defense.

1198
00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:28,239
Speaker 7: But if he's not, you.

1199
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Speaker 9: Know, uh, it's just about having an open mind, be

1200
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:36,200
Speaker 9: open to coaching and and being able to to think

1201
00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:39,680
Speaker 9: on the running and and mold into whatever you know,

1202
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:42,759
Speaker 9: this new uh new somebody is here, you know.

1203
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:46,879
Speaker 10: Do you mean he has some basically most he absolutely

1204
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:50,040
Speaker 10: wants uh, Jim.

1205
00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:52,399
Speaker 3: M you mean, what did you guys like over tell?

1206
00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:55,759
Speaker 3: Is that kind of like your comfort year? You think

1207
00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:57,960
Speaker 3: even you guys that that indication.

1208
00:56:57,640 --> 00:57:03,680
Speaker 9: That somehow, No, they haven't given me, you know, any

1209
00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:05,359
Speaker 9: insights to whether keeping him or not.

1210
00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:09,160
Speaker 7: But I've coached for us, and.

1211
00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:13,360
Speaker 9: I know that everybody in the building loves him and whatnot,

1212
00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:16,040
Speaker 9: So I can't get down to the business side of things.

1213
00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:18,720
Speaker 7: But you know, a great coach, why not keep going on?

1214
00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:22,840
Speaker 7: Thank you'all for this ye, I appreciate yall all right.

1215
00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:25,320
Speaker 3: Second hour of the program coming up next. Mister Siciliano

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00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:27,360
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00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:28,880
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00:58:20,680 --> 00:58:22,960
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Speaker 4: Hello, give it hi, boys from Ian Rappaport. The Lions

1231
00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:30,080
Speaker 4: have reached out already to former Dolphins head coach Mike

1232
00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:32,960
Speaker 4: McDaniel about their vacant offensive coordinator position.

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00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:39,280
Speaker 5: Whoa that would be diabolical with? That would be not whoa,

1234
00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:40,680
Speaker 5: that would be a good move for them.

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00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:48,880
Speaker 3: I can tell you that these elite, elite play caller.

1236
00:58:51,600 --> 00:58:55,040
Speaker 4: Uh commander's O C Cliff Kingsbury will interview for the

1237
00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:58,160
Speaker 4: Ravens job and the Titans head coaching job.

1238
00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:09,160
Speaker 3: Mm hmm, I don't, I don't. I mean I'd be

1239
00:59:09,240 --> 00:59:11,480
Speaker 3: surprised if Cliff got another head job in the NFL.

1240
00:59:12,040 --> 00:59:15,400
Speaker 3: Me too. To me, it just screams coordinator.

1241
00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:18,280
Speaker 5: I would like to let me tell you something right now,

1242
00:59:18,520 --> 00:59:23,720
Speaker 5: if if the Browns go with a defensive head coach,

1243
00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:27,560
Speaker 5: or if if if let's say that that the current

1244
00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:30,880
Speaker 5: coordinators here are not going to be the coordinator on offense,

1245
00:59:30,880 --> 00:59:32,760
Speaker 5: if it's not Tommy, Like, yeah, totally, I thought we

1246
00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:35,280
Speaker 5: saw development. We find Tommy saying so this is not

1247
00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:39,840
Speaker 5: about that, but Mike McDaniel. As if if there was

1248
00:59:39,880 --> 00:59:42,680
Speaker 5: another if they needed to bring in an offensive coordinator,

1249
00:59:42,680 --> 00:59:46,640
Speaker 5: if that's where this ended up, would be as EC

1250
00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:47,720
Speaker 5: would be incredible.

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00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:50,240
Speaker 3: Yeah. I see that was a pretty good head coach too.

1252
00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:52,439
Speaker 3: I like how I mean they played hard for him,

1253
00:59:52,520 --> 00:59:54,680
Speaker 3: they did all the way to the end, like they

1254
00:59:54,720 --> 00:59:56,280
Speaker 3: really did. I yeah, I mean.

1255
00:59:56,240 --> 00:59:58,160
Speaker 4: They were dead and buried after they played us.

1256
00:59:58,240 --> 01:00:00,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I thought he was. I thought he was

1257
01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:02,360
Speaker 3: fun like, he was fun with the media, he was

1258
01:00:02,360 --> 01:00:04,480
Speaker 3: fun with you know. I just think it was And

1259
01:00:04,520 --> 01:00:06,920
Speaker 3: they won. They you know, they won quite a bit.

1260
01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:10,400
Speaker 4: Just had a quarterback that kept getting hurt and no

1261
01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:11,240
Speaker 4: backup plan.

1262
01:00:11,560 --> 01:00:15,080
Speaker 3: No, I mean all those running backs had success through

1263
01:00:15,120 --> 01:00:20,040
Speaker 3: the years. What is his I'm gonna pull this up

1264
01:00:20,080 --> 01:00:26,480
Speaker 3: really quick. I'm just curious what he's forty two? So

1265
01:00:26,920 --> 01:00:28,960
Speaker 3: nine and eight, eleven and six, eight, nine, seven and

1266
01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:35,880
Speaker 3: ten not bad? Did not win a playoff game?

1267
01:00:37,080 --> 01:00:40,000
Speaker 4: No, they played in the coldest playoff game known to mankind.

1268
01:00:40,120 --> 01:00:43,440
Speaker 3: Oh my god. They lost. Yeah, they lost at Buffalo

1269
01:00:43,480 --> 01:00:44,720
Speaker 3: and then at Kansas City.

1270
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Speaker 4: At Kansas City game, Yeah, probably should not have been played.

1271
01:00:49,120 --> 01:00:50,960
Speaker 4: People lost like fingers and toes.

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01:00:51,080 --> 01:00:52,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right. That was the one that was like

1273
01:00:52,600 --> 01:00:57,280
Speaker 3: ten below air temp or whatever. Yeah, exactly. Wow, Yeah,

1274
01:00:57,320 --> 01:01:01,000
Speaker 3: he's he might. I would be surprised if he landed

1275
01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:04,880
Speaker 3: a head job with this many openings, if Mike pivoted

1276
01:01:05,440 --> 01:01:09,480
Speaker 3: and landed a head job like in Atlanta, Like if

1277
01:01:09,520 --> 01:01:13,360
Speaker 3: you're Atlanta with all those weapons. Yeah, I mean you

1278
01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:14,200
Speaker 3: saw what he's.

1279
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Speaker 5: Yeah, he did with a chan Yeah he's I mean

1280
01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:20,520
Speaker 5: Detroit would be a great place for him. I I

1281
01:01:20,600 --> 01:01:24,040
Speaker 5: personally I think that he is a tremendous coach. I've maintained,

1282
01:01:24,080 --> 01:01:25,880
Speaker 5: you know, whenever we played them, I've always talked to

1283
01:01:25,960 --> 01:01:26,680
Speaker 5: him before everything.

1284
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Speaker 3: I am big, big Mike McDaniel fan, Big Mike McDaniel fan.

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01:01:31,240 --> 01:01:33,120
Speaker 5: I really like if if you know, you're looking at

1286
01:01:33,160 --> 01:01:39,560
Speaker 5: offensive coordinator guys again, assuming i've if Tommy's here, Tommy's

1287
01:01:39,600 --> 01:01:42,360
Speaker 5: go see. But if there's whoever comes in once a

1288
01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:44,800
Speaker 5: like Mike Laflora with the Rams, I love. Those are

1289
01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:46,360
Speaker 5: just guys that I know, the guys I've been here.

1290
01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:48,240
Speaker 5: They were all in that twenty fourteen staff with Kyle.

1291
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Speaker 5: And when you think about getting to opportunity to spend

1292
01:01:50,320 --> 01:01:52,400
Speaker 5: time a lot with Kyle, and then Mike McDaniel's done

1293
01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:53,720
Speaker 5: it on his own, and then from Micha Lafoury, he's

1294
01:01:53,720 --> 01:01:55,720
Speaker 5: been with Kyle and he's been with McVeigh.

1295
01:01:55,800 --> 01:01:56,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, pretty good.

1296
01:01:56,800 --> 01:02:01,120
Speaker 5: That's a pretty good That's a pretty good pedigree right there.

1297
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Speaker 3: So I have no idea. We haven't. You know, we can't.

1298
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Speaker 5: You can't even request interview anybody on the RAMS yet.

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Speaker 3: Mike McDaniel.

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Speaker 5: Obviously you could request interview and I know that we're

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01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:10,520
Speaker 5: interested him and potentially as a head coach.

1302
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Speaker 3: I would imagine, I would think so he is. He

1303
01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:15,800
Speaker 3: is a savant.

1304
01:02:18,400 --> 01:02:20,360
Speaker 4: Time for little mail bag, you k it would be

1305
01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:21,720
Speaker 4: for him If he doesn't get any coach, that would

1306
01:02:21,720 --> 01:02:22,840
Speaker 4: be a pretty good landing spot.

1307
01:02:23,560 --> 01:02:25,760
Speaker 5: Gibbs, I'm on ra.

1308
01:02:28,560 --> 01:02:32,200
Speaker 3: Jamison. That division is a monster all of a sudden.

1309
01:02:32,280 --> 01:02:37,000
Speaker 4: Yeah stuff, Uh, you can tweet USh your questions at

1310
01:02:37,120 --> 01:02:41,200
Speaker 4: Brown's Underscore Daily Dog Pound Cleveland Brown By the way, yesterday,

1311
01:02:41,200 --> 01:02:44,200
Speaker 4: please tell Joe Thomas. I got my brother and dad

1312
01:02:44,240 --> 01:02:46,840
Speaker 4: each a pair of snacksticks and a shirt from h

1313
01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:50,000
Speaker 4: O F Beef and they loved it. Thank him for me.

1314
01:02:50,200 --> 01:02:52,640
Speaker 4: My dad got the shirt with Joe riding the cow

1315
01:02:53,160 --> 01:02:55,600
Speaker 4: from g v Art and we thought it was awesome.

1316
01:02:56,320 --> 01:02:57,840
Speaker 3: It is awesome. It is awesome.

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01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:04,440
Speaker 4: Andrew tweets at the show. Well, Luca grow up to

1318
01:03:04,440 --> 01:03:06,440
Speaker 4: be a Browns fan or a forty nine er.

1319
01:03:06,440 --> 01:03:10,080
Speaker 5: Fan Browns fan, Browns Yeah, there you go, and the

1320
01:03:10,200 --> 01:03:13,200
Speaker 5: Niners will always be his like an FC team.

1321
01:03:13,360 --> 01:03:15,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, but he did that. Always he will be.

1322
01:03:16,040 --> 01:03:19,040
Speaker 5: He will be a Browns guy, no doubt.

1323
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Speaker 3: They all have NFC teams.

1324
01:03:20,240 --> 01:03:24,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, Ohio resident, what are each of your top three

1325
01:03:24,760 --> 01:03:27,840
Speaker 4: TV show characters of all time can be any genre.

1326
01:03:27,960 --> 01:03:29,560
Speaker 3: This is an hour if we want it to be.

1327
01:03:29,720 --> 01:03:31,440
Speaker 4: This depends to save it for the off season.

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01:03:31,680 --> 01:03:34,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think you have to do. You

1329
01:03:34,800 --> 01:03:37,400
Speaker 3: have to There's so many qualifiers here, Like you have

1330
01:03:37,480 --> 01:03:40,439
Speaker 3: to tell me like drama, comedy, you have to tell

1331
01:03:40,440 --> 01:03:42,120
Speaker 3: me main supporting to.

1332
01:03:42,200 --> 01:03:49,640
Speaker 5: Say your three favorite TV characters, I.

1333
01:03:49,680 --> 01:03:53,440
Speaker 4: Mean Cramer for me, I mean it is it is.

1334
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Speaker 7: Well.

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01:03:54,360 --> 01:03:56,240
Speaker 3: The other thing is is like if you go l D,

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01:03:56,400 --> 01:03:58,479
Speaker 3: you get l D and George because it's the same,

1337
01:03:59,360 --> 01:04:01,480
Speaker 3: right do you get both? I just want l D.

1338
01:04:01,600 --> 01:04:03,760
Speaker 3: I don't need. Stanza Stands is pretty great. He makes

1339
01:04:03,800 --> 01:04:06,240
Speaker 3: all that work, he has all makes it all work.

1340
01:04:06,280 --> 01:04:07,880
Speaker 3: On Seinfeld, he comes off.

1341
01:04:08,160 --> 01:04:10,880
Speaker 5: So I was rewatching just randomly flipped on I think

1342
01:04:11,040 --> 01:04:13,160
Speaker 5: season eight where they do the Seinfeld reunion because I

1343
01:04:13,160 --> 01:04:16,520
Speaker 5: wanted to watch. Funk Man did the joke, which is great,

1344
01:04:16,800 --> 01:04:20,040
Speaker 5: but like, Jason Alexander is so awful. He just comes

1345
01:04:20,200 --> 01:04:22,120
Speaker 5: and I know he's doing I think he's obviously playing

1346
01:04:22,680 --> 01:04:25,240
Speaker 5: up to that reputation of him, but like and he's

1347
01:04:25,240 --> 01:04:27,600
Speaker 5: complaining about how Cheryl got apart and the whole Like

1348
01:04:27,640 --> 01:04:28,000
Speaker 5: he's just.

1349
01:04:27,960 --> 01:04:30,480
Speaker 3: So so unlikable. But I think that was at a

1350
01:04:30,520 --> 01:04:33,120
Speaker 3: design was to make it so that so he's like

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01:04:33,160 --> 01:04:35,040
Speaker 3: an adversary for LD. So I think that was all

1352
01:04:35,080 --> 01:04:37,160
Speaker 3: kind of in design. I'm not sure if he's that

1353
01:04:37,280 --> 01:04:41,520
Speaker 3: awful all the time. But without him on Seinfeld like

1354
01:04:42,120 --> 01:04:47,800
Speaker 3: you needed, he has to be there, he needed, Oh

1355
01:04:47,840 --> 01:04:50,160
Speaker 3: my god, like I I'll just do a fun one,

1356
01:04:50,240 --> 01:04:56,800
Speaker 3: just ancillary characters. Uncle Baby Billy is unbelievable, Stevie Janowski's

1357
01:04:56,840 --> 01:05:00,600
Speaker 3: unbelievable from the from that world, Leon Funkman, Leon and

1358
01:05:00,600 --> 01:05:02,880
Speaker 3: funk Man are unbelievable. From the curb. We could honestly

1359
01:05:02,920 --> 01:05:06,160
Speaker 3: do a we could do a bracket of comedy.

1360
01:05:06,480 --> 01:05:09,720
Speaker 4: Remember this and drama like guess guess what may is

1361
01:05:09,760 --> 01:05:10,120
Speaker 4: going to be?

1362
01:05:10,240 --> 01:05:12,280
Speaker 3: I mean probably the one that that it was the

1363
01:05:12,320 --> 01:05:16,360
Speaker 3: most mesmerized with was Tony Soprano. I mean that was

1364
01:05:16,400 --> 01:05:18,400
Speaker 3: the most That was the performance that was just larger

1365
01:05:18,440 --> 01:05:21,400
Speaker 3: than life in my life. It was so large, that

1366
01:05:21,440 --> 01:05:25,800
Speaker 3: performance and really a tough gig. And he crushed at

1367
01:05:25,800 --> 01:05:30,760
Speaker 3: Gandalfini just crushed it. Swears unbelievable and dead.

1368
01:05:30,600 --> 01:05:34,000
Speaker 5: With unbelievable or the two from like a drama standpoint

1369
01:05:34,040 --> 01:05:34,520
Speaker 5: that I had on.

1370
01:05:34,480 --> 01:05:36,960
Speaker 3: That Swaringines unbelievable in Deadwood if you haven't seen Deadwood,

1371
01:05:36,960 --> 01:05:38,400
Speaker 3: like and I know that doesn't get all the juice

1372
01:05:38,440 --> 01:05:41,400
Speaker 3: that like the Wire and Sopranos do, It's and swar

1373
01:05:41,440 --> 01:05:42,440
Speaker 3: engines unbelievable in that.

1374
01:05:43,880 --> 01:05:46,439
Speaker 4: There's a lot of good ones there. You go, smell

1375
01:05:46,480 --> 01:05:48,440
Speaker 4: of bracket in our future. Yeah, you could bracket that

1376
01:05:48,480 --> 01:05:54,360
Speaker 4: out perfect a little Bobby time, Hey Bobby, Bobby.

1377
01:05:54,440 --> 01:05:56,720
Speaker 5: I would even put Pablo Escobar from Narco's in there.

1378
01:05:56,720 --> 01:05:58,040
Speaker 5: I really loved the portrayal.

1379
01:05:58,120 --> 01:05:59,880
Speaker 3: He was great in that.

1380
01:06:00,240 --> 01:06:05,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, formidable, formidable, but also like loving. They made it.

1381
01:06:05,560 --> 01:06:07,160
Speaker 5: It was and that's why the guys who worked on

1382
01:06:07,160 --> 01:06:08,320
Speaker 5: it were kind of there was like you a little

1383
01:06:08,320 --> 01:06:09,080
Speaker 5: too sympathetic.

1384
01:06:10,320 --> 01:06:12,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was one that I just rewatched that recently.

1385
01:06:13,400 --> 01:06:18,720
Speaker 3: Really just the the two Columbia seasons, Yeah, that's really.

1386
01:06:19,000 --> 01:06:21,960
Speaker 3: The other one is the one in the Collie Cartel

1387
01:06:22,080 --> 01:06:25,600
Speaker 3: is the third season. That's pretty good too. But the

1388
01:06:25,600 --> 01:06:29,000
Speaker 3: the Escobar two Escobar seasons of Narcos, Yah, I just

1389
01:06:29,040 --> 01:06:31,080
Speaker 3: rewatched that. I want to say the summer I watched

1390
01:06:31,120 --> 01:06:35,960
Speaker 3: a little bit and it is stupefying. I had forgotten

1391
01:06:35,960 --> 01:06:39,440
Speaker 3: like how many things he did over through the government

1392
01:06:39,680 --> 01:06:43,640
Speaker 3: took down a commercial airline full of passengers. Like It's

1393
01:06:44,160 --> 01:06:47,360
Speaker 3: built his own prison. He built his own prison for

1394
01:06:47,440 --> 01:06:53,200
Speaker 3: him to live in while so he wasn't extradited. Yeah, nuts, nuts.

1395
01:06:55,080 --> 01:06:57,320
Speaker 4: Bobby, with a great little quote here. I don't know

1396
01:06:57,360 --> 01:06:59,920
Speaker 4: if you guys saw this or not. My great grandpa

1397
01:07:00,720 --> 01:07:04,600
Speaker 4: was best friends with Elliott Ness. They worked together when

1398
01:07:04,640 --> 01:07:06,720
Speaker 4: Capone was at his peak to catch him. They also

1399
01:07:06,760 --> 01:07:09,160
Speaker 4: started the juvenile court in Cleveland.

1400
01:07:09,840 --> 01:07:13,520
Speaker 3: That is incredible. That is incredible.

1401
01:07:13,680 --> 01:07:14,920
Speaker 4: But he's got some stories.

1402
01:07:14,960 --> 01:07:17,600
Speaker 3: I bet he does. Good job to you, Bobby, I

1403
01:07:18,040 --> 01:07:18,880
Speaker 3: say that he does.

1404
01:07:21,480 --> 01:07:24,200
Speaker 4: Favorite memory of this is more from Bobby. Favorite memory

1405
01:07:24,200 --> 01:07:27,360
Speaker 4: of Kevin Stefanski on the Kevin Stefanski Show or in

1406
01:07:27,400 --> 01:07:36,120
Speaker 4: the building there there were some moments. Yeah.

1407
01:07:36,280 --> 01:07:38,080
Speaker 5: I always liked when I got to go, you know,

1408
01:07:38,280 --> 01:07:40,360
Speaker 5: go in there to his office and email, and then

1409
01:07:40,360 --> 01:07:42,960
Speaker 5: we would like sometimes afterwards for a few monuths, just

1410
01:07:42,960 --> 01:07:44,560
Speaker 5: like talkball and watch some tape.

1411
01:07:44,600 --> 01:07:45,400
Speaker 3: I always really enjoyed that.

1412
01:07:45,440 --> 01:07:46,800
Speaker 5: I enjoyed the day that I got to go into

1413
01:07:46,960 --> 01:07:49,080
Speaker 5: the golf simulator with him and for somebody who won

1414
01:07:49,160 --> 01:07:55,200
Speaker 5: something that from the Keeper's Foundation. Yeah, yeah, he's he

1415
01:07:55,280 --> 01:07:57,480
Speaker 5: was a He was a great guy. I mean he

1416
01:07:57,520 --> 01:07:59,080
Speaker 5: really was. He was a great guy, very easy to

1417
01:07:59,080 --> 01:08:04,000
Speaker 5: be around, very consistent. Yeah, so that was I really

1418
01:08:04,040 --> 01:08:06,000
Speaker 5: always liked talking ball. I learned a lot of football

1419
01:08:06,040 --> 01:08:08,240
Speaker 5: obviously talked to him. He's a very smart football guy.

1420
01:08:09,400 --> 01:08:13,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I in the early years, I seem

1421
01:08:13,520 --> 01:08:15,400
Speaker 3: all the time on the U sports circuit, yep, because

1422
01:08:15,400 --> 01:08:17,160
Speaker 3: our kids match up, so I seem all the time

1423
01:08:17,160 --> 01:08:20,120
Speaker 3: on that. And then I always liked him at the

1424
01:08:20,320 --> 01:08:24,559
Speaker 3: I always saw it like the most like real hymn

1425
01:08:24,840 --> 01:08:27,760
Speaker 3: that I saw was at the golf outing yep. Like

1426
01:08:27,840 --> 01:08:31,080
Speaker 3: I always enjoyed those interactions where we would you know,

1427
01:08:31,120 --> 01:08:33,360
Speaker 3: shoot it with him a little bit and have a

1428
01:08:33,360 --> 01:08:35,880
Speaker 3: few minutes at the tea box Like that was because

1429
01:08:35,880 --> 01:08:37,479
Speaker 3: then you would see like how we would give it

1430
01:08:37,520 --> 01:08:39,160
Speaker 3: to other people, and like you saw all of it,

1431
01:08:39,960 --> 01:08:41,760
Speaker 3: and there was a lot of that there that we

1432
01:08:41,840 --> 01:08:43,960
Speaker 3: never really saw in the Hunter media. But yeah, he

1433
01:08:44,439 --> 01:08:45,360
Speaker 3: was a really fun dude.

1434
01:08:45,400 --> 01:08:46,639
Speaker 5: I think we will going forward.

1435
01:08:49,600 --> 01:08:54,640
Speaker 4: Let's see uh Cleveland fan in Chicago, Happy first New

1436
01:08:54,760 --> 01:08:58,360
Speaker 4: Year's boys. The burner is back and refreshed with all

1437
01:08:58,400 --> 01:09:01,360
Speaker 4: your worldly travels from pro sports. Were the best and

1438
01:09:01,479 --> 01:09:06,759
Speaker 4: worst cities for food and beverages. Jacksonville sucks.

1439
01:09:07,120 --> 01:09:09,719
Speaker 3: Jacksonville does suck. I mean a good meal. In terms

1440
01:09:09,800 --> 01:09:12,760
Speaker 3: of like the big like host cities, I think New

1441
01:09:12,840 --> 01:09:15,800
Speaker 3: Orleans is the best because it's all walking distance, the

1442
01:09:15,840 --> 01:09:18,680
Speaker 3: food's incredible, there's all sorts of tomfoolery. I don't think

1443
01:09:18,680 --> 01:09:20,120
Speaker 3: you can be there for more than two or three

1444
01:09:20,200 --> 01:09:21,800
Speaker 3: days and then you got to get out. And I've

1445
01:09:21,800 --> 01:09:23,840
Speaker 3: had to spend like weeks there, So in that sense,

1446
01:09:23,840 --> 01:09:27,840
Speaker 3: it's not great. The only problem with like the from

1447
01:09:27,840 --> 01:09:29,400
Speaker 3: a big event, and I'm thinking of this like I'm

1448
01:09:29,400 --> 01:09:31,160
Speaker 3: thinking in my head, I'm thinking about like bowl games

1449
01:09:31,160 --> 01:09:34,880
Speaker 3: and stuff. The only problem with like Phoenix Miami, it's

1450
01:09:34,920 --> 01:09:37,439
Speaker 3: just spread out. It's just forever to get places like.

1451
01:09:37,720 --> 01:09:40,000
Speaker 3: That's what's nice about New Orleans. Like you fly in,

1452
01:09:40,920 --> 01:09:42,679
Speaker 3: get to your hotel, and then you don't need a car.

1453
01:09:43,400 --> 01:09:45,120
Speaker 3: You're good yep the rest of the way. And I

1454
01:09:45,160 --> 01:09:50,040
Speaker 3: always liked that about New Orleans. Indy is good for that.

1455
01:09:50,280 --> 01:09:51,120
Speaker 3: Indy is good for that.

1456
01:09:51,280 --> 01:09:53,240
Speaker 5: Yes, just because of the ease of getting around. We've

1457
01:09:53,240 --> 01:09:55,439
Speaker 5: always had where we stay, We've always had good meals.

1458
01:09:55,439 --> 01:09:56,400
Speaker 5: Give A and Baltimore.

1459
01:09:57,000 --> 01:09:58,759
Speaker 3: Baltimore's Baltimore is good town.

1460
01:09:59,040 --> 01:10:01,240
Speaker 4: One of my favorites. It used to go to, except

1461
01:10:01,240 --> 01:10:02,440
Speaker 4: when we stay forty.

1462
01:10:02,200 --> 01:10:04,280
Speaker 3: Minutes outside that when we're in.

1463
01:10:05,800 --> 01:10:07,840
Speaker 4: I'm still angry about what happened this year.

1464
01:10:07,920 --> 01:10:10,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, when we're in the inner Harvard's great. Yeah, it's great,

1465
01:10:10,240 --> 01:10:11,200
Speaker 3: great restaurants there.

1466
01:10:11,320 --> 01:10:14,200
Speaker 4: Little little Italy is fantastic. Yeah, it's good.

1467
01:10:14,439 --> 01:10:14,960
Speaker 3: I like it.

1468
01:10:18,479 --> 01:10:18,640
Speaker 6: L A.

1469
01:10:18,760 --> 01:10:20,599
Speaker 5: We where we say in l A is usually pretty good.

1470
01:10:20,880 --> 01:10:23,599
Speaker 3: Are you l A live? Uh huh yeah, there's enough

1471
01:10:23,600 --> 01:10:27,120
Speaker 3: stuff around there that's solid. It's not. I mean yeah,

1472
01:10:27,840 --> 01:10:32,360
Speaker 3: I'm trying to think Denver. We stay right downtown. Denver

1473
01:10:32,479 --> 01:10:34,000
Speaker 3: is great, Denver's great.

1474
01:10:33,840 --> 01:10:35,200
Speaker 4: Denver's a really good setup.

1475
01:10:35,360 --> 01:10:35,479
Speaker 9: Uh.

1476
01:10:37,320 --> 01:10:39,760
Speaker 5: Seattle, we say right downtown, and is there's good food

1477
01:10:39,760 --> 01:10:40,280
Speaker 5: in Seattle?

1478
01:10:41,680 --> 01:10:41,800
Speaker 7: Uh?

1479
01:10:44,200 --> 01:10:46,240
Speaker 5: We were I'm sorry, I'm sorry. We're not downtown. We

1480
01:10:46,240 --> 01:10:47,879
Speaker 5: were in downtown bell.

1481
01:10:47,760 --> 01:10:55,240
Speaker 3: Belle, which is really nice. Yeah, there, very nice. Yeah,

1482
01:10:55,240 --> 01:10:59,320
Speaker 3: that's a good one. I mean, look, every every great,

1483
01:10:59,479 --> 01:11:03,080
Speaker 3: every maid your city in America has great, great restaurants. Yeah,

1484
01:11:03,439 --> 01:11:03,920
Speaker 3: they're all great.

1485
01:11:03,960 --> 01:11:06,519
Speaker 5: We're at the JW. Marriott downtown. I wish I know

1486
01:11:06,560 --> 01:11:08,160
Speaker 5: that the games are in New Jersey, so I understand

1487
01:11:08,160 --> 01:11:09,680
Speaker 5: why we say Jersey, but it would be fun when

1488
01:11:09,680 --> 01:11:11,360
Speaker 5: we go to New York to like stay in New York.

1489
01:11:11,600 --> 01:11:14,400
Speaker 3: Yeah right, versus having to go across the river and

1490
01:11:14,439 --> 01:11:14,640
Speaker 3: all that.

1491
01:11:14,720 --> 01:11:18,720
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, all right. Final one here today, guys. And

1492
01:11:18,760 --> 01:11:23,120
Speaker 4: it is a score for tonight, Yes, the Bowl. There

1493
01:11:23,160 --> 01:11:29,639
Speaker 4: is college football tonight. It's Miami Ole Miss in the desert.

1494
01:11:29,960 --> 01:11:30,160
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1495
01:11:30,160 --> 01:11:33,720
Speaker 4: Who would have had that? There you go? Uh, you

1496
01:11:33,840 --> 01:11:36,479
Speaker 4: have the score in front of you, gentlemen, what say you,

1497
01:11:36,600 --> 01:11:37,280
Speaker 4: bo Bishop?

1498
01:11:38,560 --> 01:11:41,720
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go. I think I think that this is

1499
01:11:41,720 --> 01:11:45,040
Speaker 3: when Cinderella runs out of time with Old Miss. Just

1500
01:11:45,080 --> 01:11:47,400
Speaker 3: too much chaos behind the scenes there. And I think

1501
01:11:47,439 --> 01:11:49,920
Speaker 3: Miami's defensive line is a problem. The Trinidan Shamblis's story

1502
01:11:49,960 --> 01:11:53,320
Speaker 3: is unbelievable. From Division two quarterback to this. And by

1503
01:11:53,320 --> 01:11:54,720
Speaker 3: the way, I hope he gets his six year of

1504
01:11:54,720 --> 01:11:56,760
Speaker 3: eligibility because he didn't get a cash in this year

1505
01:11:57,040 --> 01:11:58,880
Speaker 3: because they brought him in as the backup, so he

1506
01:11:58,920 --> 01:12:01,479
Speaker 3: didn't get money. He could get six million bucks next

1507
01:12:01,520 --> 01:12:04,000
Speaker 3: year from LSU if he or Old Miss rather if

1508
01:12:04,080 --> 01:12:06,280
Speaker 3: he if he stays. But I think the Canes take

1509
01:12:06,320 --> 01:12:08,759
Speaker 3: care of business. I like Miami in this one. Twenty

1510
01:12:08,760 --> 01:12:09,439
Speaker 3: four to seventeen.

1511
01:12:10,520 --> 01:12:12,800
Speaker 5: I mean, listen, I want the IRV train to keep

1512
01:12:12,840 --> 01:12:14,800
Speaker 5: going as long as possible. There's a video of him

1513
01:12:14,800 --> 01:12:18,320
Speaker 5: on the street going nuts. Was that last night? I'm

1514
01:12:18,360 --> 01:12:23,919
Speaker 5: guessing it's great. I'd love it. So I'm I'm blinded

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01:12:24,000 --> 01:12:25,160
Speaker 5: right now by the playmaker.

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Speaker 3: On every level. He is a sixty year old man. No,

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01:12:28,880 --> 01:12:31,680
Speaker 3: he's not. He's got tiger blood. Not when he's not.

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01:12:31,760 --> 01:12:33,960
Speaker 5: When he's doing what he's now, he's doing what he's

1519
01:12:34,000 --> 01:12:34,599
Speaker 5: doing now.

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Speaker 3: You don't feel like one. I'll tell you that, miss ten.

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Speaker 5: Foot tall and bulletproof Stevie.

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Speaker 5: the Cleveland Browns. Keep it twisted, Cleveland, as I welcome

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01:13:28,760 --> 01:13:31,879
Speaker 5: in the play by play voice of your Cleveland Browns.

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01:13:32,120 --> 01:13:34,600
Speaker 5: I'm reading this. I'm like, right now, ron Berg and

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01:13:34,760 --> 01:13:38,280
Speaker 5: direct read right here. He is a graduate from Syracuse University.

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01:13:38,760 --> 01:13:41,760
Speaker 5: He is Andrew Siciliano, and he joins us. Now, first

1539
01:13:41,760 --> 01:13:43,040
Speaker 5: of all, it should say that he is a Hall

1540
01:13:43,120 --> 01:13:46,080
Speaker 5: of famerge Now, this is what Gibbe has put on

1541
01:13:46,080 --> 01:13:47,920
Speaker 5: the rundock. It should say he's a hall of famer.

1542
01:13:47,960 --> 01:13:49,960
Speaker 5: Show him some respect. He's an orange jacket.

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01:13:50,240 --> 01:13:54,240
Speaker 6: I mean my student radio station, I might not have

1544
01:13:54,760 --> 01:13:55,400
Speaker 6: young Gabriel.

1545
01:13:55,760 --> 01:13:58,120
Speaker 3: Come on, young Gabriel. He's a hall of famer.

1546
01:13:58,439 --> 01:14:01,000
Speaker 6: As my father used to say that in fifty cents

1547
01:14:01,040 --> 01:14:02,960
Speaker 6: will get you a cup of coffee.

1548
01:14:03,200 --> 01:14:04,559
Speaker 3: It should get you an orange jacket.

1549
01:14:04,560 --> 01:14:06,519
Speaker 5: Though, this is a movement that I want you to lead,

1550
01:14:06,600 --> 01:14:08,240
Speaker 5: or I will lead on your behalf if you connect

1551
01:14:08,280 --> 01:14:10,719
Speaker 5: me with the decision makers of orange jackets.

1552
01:14:10,720 --> 01:14:12,639
Speaker 3: But you need I want to advocate for you.

1553
01:14:13,040 --> 01:14:16,640
Speaker 4: That's that's he's still running the alumni association.

1554
01:14:16,840 --> 01:14:23,320
Speaker 6: Heat Gennsini, I know he I think he handed off

1555
01:14:23,680 --> 01:14:28,639
Speaker 6: those responsibilities, but he did come into town for the ceremony.

1556
01:14:28,800 --> 01:14:30,640
Speaker 6: Halloween weekend at s U.

1557
01:14:30,840 --> 01:14:31,520
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1558
01:14:31,600 --> 01:14:36,080
Speaker 5: Yes, Like, don't you think though, now that you've gone

1559
01:14:36,080 --> 01:14:37,280
Speaker 5: through it and it was awesome and you got to

1560
01:14:37,280 --> 01:14:38,800
Speaker 5: reconnect with a bunch of people that if at the

1561
01:14:38,880 --> 01:14:40,519
Speaker 5: end of it they brought you all up on stage

1562
01:14:40,520 --> 01:14:45,080
Speaker 5: and you got like a perfectly tailored orange jacket put on.

1563
01:14:45,080 --> 01:14:47,320
Speaker 6: It, think it would be amazing. Yes, obviously, but you

1564
01:14:47,400 --> 01:14:51,840
Speaker 6: got to realize there are there are countless guys and

1565
01:14:51,920 --> 01:14:55,200
Speaker 6: gals ahead of me that deserve their gold jackets, Like

1566
01:14:55,320 --> 01:14:57,679
Speaker 6: Marv Albert give him the gold Jim, but I'm sorry

1567
01:14:58,400 --> 01:15:02,799
Speaker 6: Jacket and Costas and Stockton and all of those guys.

1568
01:15:02,840 --> 01:15:08,600
Speaker 6: Those guys, When those guys get their perfectly tailored orange jackets,

1569
01:15:08,960 --> 01:15:12,799
Speaker 6: then maybe just maybe yes, and I would be worthy.

1570
01:15:13,320 --> 01:15:15,880
Speaker 5: Everybody who's gone in should get one. I mean, we're

1571
01:15:15,920 --> 01:15:18,120
Speaker 5: at a major university here, we got donors, we can

1572
01:15:18,200 --> 01:15:19,920
Speaker 5: we can do this. And then I think every year

1573
01:15:19,960 --> 01:15:22,599
Speaker 5: at the next class induction the night before, there's an

1574
01:15:22,640 --> 01:15:25,360
Speaker 5: orange jacket dinner that's only for orange jacket.

1575
01:15:25,040 --> 01:15:29,000
Speaker 6: The orange Jacket Dinner where they sit around and tell stories.

1576
01:15:29,560 --> 01:15:32,559
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, and some of you know, like each year,

1577
01:15:32,600 --> 01:15:35,080
Speaker 5: like a particular orange jacket gets to make the menu

1578
01:15:35,280 --> 01:15:35,960
Speaker 5: a lit'll bit like the.

1579
01:15:35,920 --> 01:15:39,759
Speaker 6: Master's kind of like the Masters. Yeah, sure, dinosaur barbecue

1580
01:15:39,800 --> 01:15:40,720
Speaker 6: every year, let's do.

1581
01:15:40,920 --> 01:15:42,559
Speaker 3: I think it's a great idea. That's a great idea.

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01:15:42,640 --> 01:15:45,439
Speaker 5: All right, what do you make of because I don't

1583
01:15:45,439 --> 01:15:47,360
Speaker 5: think we've gotten to talk about this on here, but

1584
01:15:48,680 --> 01:15:51,840
Speaker 5: John Harbaugh out with the Ravens and your perception on

1585
01:15:52,040 --> 01:15:54,400
Speaker 5: number one, where that puts the Ravens in the pecking

1586
01:15:54,479 --> 01:15:56,759
Speaker 5: order of the available jobs, and then where that puts

1587
01:15:56,760 --> 01:15:59,200
Speaker 5: Harbaugh on the pecking order of available coaches.

1588
01:15:59,720 --> 01:16:01,880
Speaker 6: It's fascinating. I think it had been brewing for a

1589
01:16:01,880 --> 01:16:03,720
Speaker 6: couple of years now, you know, since they won the

1590
01:16:03,760 --> 01:16:06,280
Speaker 6: Super Bowl in twenty twelve. And again I realized I'm

1591
01:16:06,280 --> 01:16:09,200
Speaker 6: prefacing this by saying he's won a Super Bowl. But

1592
01:16:09,280 --> 01:16:10,960
Speaker 6: since they did that the night the lights went out

1593
01:16:10,960 --> 01:16:12,840
Speaker 6: in New Orleans with Beyonce and all that when they

1594
01:16:12,840 --> 01:16:15,400
Speaker 6: beat his brother and by the way, if Jim had

1595
01:16:15,479 --> 01:16:18,880
Speaker 6: not called time out on that what that first gun

1596
01:16:18,960 --> 01:16:21,160
Speaker 6: run by Kaepernick. I'm convinced they win that game, but

1597
01:16:21,200 --> 01:16:22,400
Speaker 6: he did, he ran down the side.

1598
01:16:23,240 --> 01:16:24,280
Speaker 3: I couldn't agree more.

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01:16:24,400 --> 01:16:28,240
Speaker 6: Yes, I know, since then, they have not won more

1600
01:16:28,280 --> 01:16:32,360
Speaker 6: than one playoff game in any season, so there has

1601
01:16:32,400 --> 01:16:36,799
Speaker 6: been a mounting frustration there that you have Lamar Jackson,

1602
01:16:36,840 --> 01:16:39,760
Speaker 6: you have this generational talent, you have an MVP at quarterback.

1603
01:16:40,160 --> 01:16:40,800
Speaker 6: We've got to win.

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01:16:41,120 --> 01:16:41,320
Speaker 7: Now.

1605
01:16:41,400 --> 01:16:43,519
Speaker 6: It's not all on the coach. It's not on the quarterback.

1606
01:16:43,520 --> 01:16:45,439
Speaker 6: It's a team effort. Some would say it's more in

1607
01:16:45,479 --> 01:16:48,120
Speaker 6: the quarterback than it is the coach. But this has

1608
01:16:48,160 --> 01:16:51,400
Speaker 6: been brewing for a while. It is still stunning. However,

1609
01:16:51,760 --> 01:16:55,160
Speaker 6: when you actually see the news hit your phone, Wow, Okay,

1610
01:16:55,160 --> 01:16:57,360
Speaker 6: they make it a change. But Brian Billick told me

1611
01:16:57,439 --> 01:16:58,960
Speaker 6: years ago, both on and off the air, when we

1612
01:16:59,000 --> 01:17:01,240
Speaker 6: worked together in NFL, that obviously the man who preceded

1613
01:17:01,479 --> 01:17:05,040
Speaker 6: John Harbaugh Baltimore, that even he felt that coaches had

1614
01:17:05,080 --> 01:17:09,920
Speaker 6: shelf LIFs, shelf lives, and that after a decade plus there,

1615
01:17:10,200 --> 01:17:14,280
Speaker 6: he felt his message had kind of grown stale and

1616
01:17:14,320 --> 01:17:16,680
Speaker 6: he supported moving on and that sometimes change for the

1617
01:17:16,720 --> 01:17:17,920
Speaker 6: sake of change is the right thing.

1618
01:17:19,640 --> 01:17:23,479
Speaker 5: So right now, do you consider the Ravens job, given

1619
01:17:23,479 --> 01:17:25,280
Speaker 5: that they've got a two time MVP a quarterback, is

1620
01:17:25,320 --> 01:17:28,640
Speaker 5: that the most appealing of the openings?

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01:17:28,880 --> 01:17:31,280
Speaker 6: I think it's it's got to be up there. I mean,

1622
01:17:31,600 --> 01:17:35,640
Speaker 6: it's all it comes down to quarterback. Yes, GM and

1623
01:17:35,760 --> 01:17:38,920
Speaker 6: structure and weather and taxes, all those things. And I

1624
01:17:38,960 --> 01:17:41,680
Speaker 6: know an overall roster, but it comes down to quarterback

1625
01:17:41,960 --> 01:17:44,280
Speaker 6: and if you have an MVP there, you would have

1626
01:17:44,320 --> 01:17:45,719
Speaker 6: to think that is at the top of the list.

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01:17:45,760 --> 01:17:50,599
Speaker 6: Now that said, there have been concerns about Lamar's practice habits,

1628
01:17:51,040 --> 01:17:54,120
Speaker 6: his off the field habits. Mike Preston wrote that article

1629
01:17:54,160 --> 01:17:55,760
Speaker 6: on the Baltimore's Son on Christmas Eve. There it was

1630
01:17:55,760 --> 01:17:59,920
Speaker 6: a bombshell and you know, said he isn't there on time,

1631
01:18:00,160 --> 01:18:02,280
Speaker 6: and he doesn't come, he doesn't eat well, all these

1632
01:18:02,320 --> 01:18:06,320
Speaker 6: things that behind the scenes people have known for a while.

1633
01:18:06,760 --> 01:18:09,559
Speaker 6: So when I read it, my first reaction was who

1634
01:18:09,640 --> 01:18:14,439
Speaker 6: ordered the code? Read the timing on when and why

1635
01:18:14,520 --> 01:18:17,960
Speaker 6: and how that story finally saw the light of day.

1636
01:18:18,040 --> 01:18:21,719
Speaker 6: To me is one of the more interesting storylines here.

1637
01:18:21,960 --> 01:18:24,240
Speaker 6: It did come out, and I think, now back to

1638
01:18:24,240 --> 01:18:26,400
Speaker 6: your point, is it an attractive job, Yes, of course

1639
01:18:26,400 --> 01:18:29,000
Speaker 6: it is. But you have to find the right coach

1640
01:18:29,080 --> 01:18:32,400
Speaker 6: that is a a big Lamar Jackson fan and be

1641
01:18:32,960 --> 01:18:35,720
Speaker 6: the guy who, evidently, like unlike John Harbaugh the last

1642
01:18:35,800 --> 01:18:37,800
Speaker 6: year or two, I know his MVP last year, can

1643
01:18:37,880 --> 01:18:41,920
Speaker 6: get the most out of him moving forward as he transitions.

1644
01:18:41,960 --> 01:18:44,679
Speaker 6: It was his birthday yesterday, twenty nine years old, into

1645
01:18:44,760 --> 01:18:46,760
Speaker 6: the next stage of his career where maybe he doesn't

1646
01:18:46,760 --> 01:18:49,320
Speaker 6: want to run as much. I'm still a very good

1647
01:18:49,360 --> 01:18:53,720
Speaker 6: pocket passer, but clearly there are moments this year, regardless

1648
01:18:53,720 --> 01:18:56,720
Speaker 6: of whether his back or his hammy are feeling good,

1649
01:18:56,720 --> 01:18:58,080
Speaker 6: where he doesn't want to run.

1650
01:19:00,160 --> 01:19:01,120
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean you saw it.

1651
01:19:01,120 --> 01:19:04,200
Speaker 5: He was below half of his career average in yards

1652
01:19:04,240 --> 01:19:07,880
Speaker 5: per game. So yeah, it does have some appeal there. Now,

1653
01:19:08,000 --> 01:19:12,559
Speaker 5: John Harbaugh eighteen seasons guy's averaged ten wins a season,

1654
01:19:12,840 --> 01:19:17,800
Speaker 5: eighteen seasons Super Bowl champion. Is John Harbaugh, in your mind,

1655
01:19:17,840 --> 01:19:19,519
Speaker 5: the candidate that is going to be number one on

1656
01:19:19,560 --> 01:19:21,600
Speaker 5: everybody's list, And it's gonna come down to he's going

1657
01:19:21,680 --> 01:19:23,960
Speaker 5: to pick where he goes rather than you know, he's

1658
01:19:23,960 --> 01:19:25,919
Speaker 5: only going to have an option one or two options.

1659
01:19:26,040 --> 01:19:28,680
Speaker 6: I think he'll have multiple options, and I think he

1660
01:19:28,720 --> 01:19:31,920
Speaker 6: will get to pick where he wants to go. I

1661
01:19:32,320 --> 01:19:35,519
Speaker 6: never the Giants one is interesting. Let's let's back up there,

1662
01:19:35,520 --> 01:19:37,400
Speaker 6: because everyone said, oh, the Giants might want Kevin, the

1663
01:19:37,439 --> 01:19:39,600
Speaker 6: Giants might want Harball the Giant. You know, oh, what

1664
01:19:39,680 --> 01:19:42,719
Speaker 6: a great job. I don't know that that's a great job.

1665
01:19:43,200 --> 01:19:46,040
Speaker 6: You have to love Jackson Dart. I think Jackson Dart

1666
01:19:46,080 --> 01:19:48,400
Speaker 6: in October was the bell of the ball, and I

1667
01:19:48,439 --> 01:19:49,760
Speaker 6: really like the kid. I do think he has a

1668
01:19:49,760 --> 01:19:51,599
Speaker 6: bright future. I think they have that guy. I think

1669
01:19:51,640 --> 01:19:54,160
Speaker 6: they do, but I'm not entirely sure because he couldn't

1670
01:19:54,160 --> 01:19:56,240
Speaker 6: stay healthy down the stretch. There are concerns right with

1671
01:19:56,320 --> 01:19:59,720
Speaker 6: his playing style. You have a general manager in Joe

1672
01:19:59,760 --> 01:20:03,280
Speaker 6: shan And whose record has not been great. There is

1673
01:20:03,800 --> 01:20:07,920
Speaker 6: a certain level of young talent there, especially defensively, and

1674
01:20:07,920 --> 01:20:11,519
Speaker 6: you could argue the weapons as well, but you have

1675
01:20:11,560 --> 01:20:15,880
Speaker 6: an uncertain ownership future there. Mister Mahra is fighting the

1676
01:20:15,920 --> 01:20:20,280
Speaker 6: good fight against cancer. I'm not suggesting his cancer battle

1677
01:20:20,320 --> 01:20:23,560
Speaker 6: here is somehow a negative, but there are some uncertainties.

1678
01:20:23,680 --> 01:20:27,760
Speaker 6: I would say with the Giants the Dolphins, I heard

1679
01:20:27,760 --> 01:20:29,880
Speaker 6: you mentioned Ahan earlier. They certainly have web from there.

1680
01:20:30,000 --> 01:20:32,120
Speaker 6: I'm not as bullish as you are with their defense.

1681
01:20:32,520 --> 01:20:36,519
Speaker 6: I think that needs or rebuild. But yeah, South Florida,

1682
01:20:36,640 --> 01:20:38,960
Speaker 6: South Florida. But they have to figure out the quarterback

1683
01:20:39,000 --> 01:20:40,559
Speaker 6: situation there because I'm going to a guest two has

1684
01:20:40,560 --> 01:20:43,679
Speaker 6: played his last snap as a Dolphin unless they decide

1685
01:20:43,680 --> 01:20:45,960
Speaker 6: that there's no way they can eat that contract this year.

1686
01:20:48,200 --> 01:20:51,080
Speaker 5: When you look at the Dolphins situation, and I don't

1687
01:20:51,080 --> 01:20:52,479
Speaker 5: think we got to talk about ours on Monday, so

1688
01:20:52,520 --> 01:20:54,519
Speaker 5: I'll do that after this. But just you mentioned the Dolphins.

1689
01:20:55,040 --> 01:20:57,880
Speaker 5: Mike McDaniel does a press conference or early this week

1690
01:20:58,720 --> 01:21:01,800
Speaker 5: Monday or Tuesday, talking that he and he's the head

1691
01:21:01,800 --> 01:21:03,400
Speaker 5: coach and talking about you know, next year there's gonna

1692
01:21:03,400 --> 01:21:04,840
Speaker 5: be a competition for the quarterback. We don't know if

1693
01:21:04,840 --> 01:21:06,639
Speaker 5: it's the quarterback will be in house out of house.

1694
01:21:06,720 --> 01:21:09,400
Speaker 5: That's the stuff we're working through. Everybody that they brought

1695
01:21:09,400 --> 01:21:11,400
Speaker 5: in with somebody that was for the GM job, but

1696
01:21:11,479 --> 01:21:15,160
Speaker 5: somebody connected to him, and then today he's out. What

1697
01:21:15,320 --> 01:21:18,600
Speaker 5: do you know about that? And he's somebody that I

1698
01:21:18,680 --> 01:21:20,320
Speaker 5: knew when he was here in twenty fourteen, somebody I've

1699
01:21:20,320 --> 01:21:21,599
Speaker 5: stayed in touch with when he was with the Niners,

1700
01:21:21,600 --> 01:21:23,040
Speaker 5: and obviously the head coach with the Dolphins and we

1701
01:21:23,040 --> 01:21:24,760
Speaker 5: played them a few times in his tenure, that I

1702
01:21:24,760 --> 01:21:26,320
Speaker 5: have a great deal of respect for and I would

1703
01:21:26,360 --> 01:21:29,000
Speaker 5: certainly like to see him involved with our organization some capacity,

1704
01:21:29,120 --> 01:21:32,280
Speaker 5: whatever that may be. What do you make of what

1705
01:21:32,400 --> 01:21:34,840
Speaker 5: happened in Miami and your thoughts on Mike McDaniel as

1706
01:21:34,840 --> 01:21:36,720
Speaker 5: a candidate for a head coach or an OC job

1707
01:21:36,760 --> 01:21:39,200
Speaker 5: somewhere here in the National Football League.

1708
01:21:39,280 --> 01:21:40,600
Speaker 6: I like him a lot. I think he'll be in

1709
01:21:40,640 --> 01:21:42,720
Speaker 6: OC next year. I don't know that he'll be a

1710
01:21:42,720 --> 01:21:46,040
Speaker 6: head coach. He never want to say never. He's certainly

1711
01:21:46,040 --> 01:21:48,439
Speaker 6: won some games early and the guys, the guy's a

1712
01:21:48,680 --> 01:21:52,719
Speaker 6: great offensive mind. So I welcome him as in OC.

1713
01:21:53,600 --> 01:21:55,840
Speaker 6: I don't know. Maybe I'm wrong. I could be wrong.

1714
01:21:55,880 --> 01:21:58,719
Speaker 6: He might be a head coach next year. I honestly

1715
01:21:58,760 --> 01:22:02,479
Speaker 6: don't know. The guy's creative, the guy's funny, the guy's quirky.

1716
01:22:03,479 --> 01:22:06,200
Speaker 6: There was an accountability issue, I think in that locker room.

1717
01:22:06,600 --> 01:22:06,880
Speaker 4: Yep.

1718
01:22:07,000 --> 01:22:09,960
Speaker 6: The team that we saw you and I and all

1719
01:22:10,000 --> 01:22:12,760
Speaker 6: Browns fans saw when they came to hunting to bank

1720
01:22:12,760 --> 01:22:14,240
Speaker 6: Field this year did not look like a team but

1721
01:22:14,320 --> 01:22:16,200
Speaker 6: wanted to be there in the second half, for what

1722
01:22:16,280 --> 01:22:19,519
Speaker 6: it's worth. But the second half of the season, down

1723
01:22:19,520 --> 01:22:20,760
Speaker 6: the stretch, when it looked like he was a dead

1724
01:22:20,800 --> 01:22:24,760
Speaker 6: man walking, they turned it around and started winning some games. Now,

1725
01:22:24,840 --> 01:22:27,080
Speaker 6: you could do a deeper dive on team Psyche one

1726
01:22:27,120 --> 01:22:29,040
Speaker 6: to one as to why you start winning games when

1727
01:22:29,040 --> 01:22:31,160
Speaker 6: you're all out of it already. I mean, that's an

1728
01:22:31,280 --> 01:22:35,559
Speaker 6: entirely different question. But I like Mike McDaniel a lot,

1729
01:22:35,600 --> 01:22:39,040
Speaker 6: and I think what happened is that they started interviewing.

1730
01:22:39,760 --> 01:22:44,200
Speaker 6: They started interviewing GM candidates, and Steven Ross started picking

1731
01:22:44,240 --> 01:22:48,080
Speaker 6: the brains of these GM candidates about what they thought

1732
01:22:48,120 --> 01:22:49,759
Speaker 6: of the team and what they thought of the coach.

1733
01:22:50,280 --> 01:22:52,240
Speaker 6: And then he went back and thought about it and

1734
01:22:52,240 --> 01:22:54,360
Speaker 6: when maybe I should get rid of the coach like

1735
01:22:54,439 --> 01:22:57,040
Speaker 6: Jacksonville last year. I mean, it was the most awkward

1736
01:22:57,080 --> 01:22:59,639
Speaker 6: thing I ever, one of the more awkward things. Shad

1737
01:22:59,720 --> 01:23:03,080
Speaker 6: Kaan is doing a zoom with GM Trent Bulky in

1738
01:23:03,120 --> 01:23:05,879
Speaker 6: a two box. That's how they did the press conference

1739
01:23:06,080 --> 01:23:08,120
Speaker 6: announcing that the coach is out and but Trent's going

1740
01:23:08,200 --> 01:23:10,880
Speaker 6: to stay. And he was asked point blank the owner

1741
01:23:11,040 --> 01:23:12,840
Speaker 6: was well, what about the GM? What if somebody wants

1742
01:23:12,920 --> 01:23:14,519
Speaker 6: the GM fied? He goes, no, We're not going to

1743
01:23:14,600 --> 01:23:17,880
Speaker 6: do that, as Trent Bulke stared blankly into the camera,

1744
01:23:18,080 --> 01:23:20,479
Speaker 6: going all right, this is awkward. Do I maintain eye contact?

1745
01:23:20,760 --> 01:23:23,600
Speaker 6: And then a month later they fired the GM. I

1746
01:23:23,600 --> 01:23:26,080
Speaker 6: think the same thing happened in Miami, just only took

1747
01:23:26,080 --> 01:23:26,479
Speaker 6: a week.

1748
01:23:28,280 --> 01:23:33,320
Speaker 5: Interesting, it is an interesting scenario. Eight openings now in

1749
01:23:33,360 --> 01:23:34,080
Speaker 5: the NFL.

1750
01:23:34,400 --> 01:23:35,400
Speaker 6: I mean, that's absurd.

1751
01:23:36,200 --> 01:23:38,200
Speaker 5: That is a quarter of the league in that league,

1752
01:23:38,880 --> 01:23:41,080
Speaker 5: and we know that some teams that quote unquote do

1753
01:23:41,160 --> 01:23:43,839
Speaker 5: not have openings have reached out about John Harbaugh.

1754
01:23:44,240 --> 01:23:47,360
Speaker 6: So I think the most interesting thing this weekend as

1755
01:23:47,400 --> 01:23:50,479
Speaker 6: we go to wild card weekend and the league. But

1756
01:23:51,160 --> 01:23:53,200
Speaker 6: like having worked at the league, like on Monday, they

1757
01:23:53,240 --> 01:23:54,640
Speaker 6: never wanted to call the last couple of years. They

1758
01:23:54,640 --> 01:23:56,320
Speaker 6: don't want to call this black mondays, no, no, no, no

1759
01:23:56,439 --> 01:23:58,920
Speaker 6: week call it. Call it like wild Card Monday. Let's

1760
01:23:58,960 --> 01:24:00,920
Speaker 6: focus on the teams of the play, which we did. But

1761
01:24:00,960 --> 01:24:03,719
Speaker 6: at the same time, coaches unfortunately are losing their jobs.

1762
01:24:03,800 --> 01:24:05,960
Speaker 6: I think the most interesting thing about this weekend is

1763
01:24:06,680 --> 01:24:10,599
Speaker 6: will there be coaching changes from the seven teams that

1764
01:24:10,680 --> 01:24:14,520
Speaker 6: lose this weekend? That to me is the question.

1765
01:24:17,439 --> 01:24:21,599
Speaker 5: And that's we've heard Tomlin and we've heard Matt Lafleur,

1766
01:24:21,640 --> 01:24:23,800
Speaker 5: which Matt Lafleur makes no sense to me at all.

1767
01:24:23,880 --> 01:24:25,320
Speaker 5: Why they would ever get rid of Matt Lafleur.

1768
01:24:25,680 --> 01:24:27,559
Speaker 6: I'm with you. And if, by the way, if Matt

1769
01:24:27,600 --> 01:24:30,280
Speaker 6: Lafleur is out, I will drive to Green Bay to

1770
01:24:30,280 --> 01:24:34,680
Speaker 6: pick him up. Fantastic, Yeah, I'll drive there. Go on

1771
01:24:35,240 --> 01:24:38,439
Speaker 6: let's go, let's go a little roady. I know Gibe

1772
01:24:38,479 --> 01:24:42,800
Speaker 6: would go. Yeah. The thing is, his contract has one

1773
01:24:42,800 --> 01:24:44,840
Speaker 6: more year left, so he's head aga into his walk

1774
01:24:44,840 --> 01:24:47,160
Speaker 6: here and they have to do a new deal. There

1775
01:24:47,200 --> 01:24:49,120
Speaker 6: is a new team president. And for those who don't know,

1776
01:24:49,160 --> 01:24:51,840
Speaker 6: you know, but like the Packers structure because it's a

1777
01:24:51,880 --> 01:24:56,439
Speaker 6: quote unquote publicly owned teams, the semantics, right, the team

1778
01:24:56,520 --> 01:24:58,720
Speaker 6: president is in essence the owner, and there's a new

1779
01:24:58,720 --> 01:25:02,120
Speaker 6: team president. Was for Washington Safety and col Kate Legend,

1780
01:25:02,120 --> 01:25:05,439
Speaker 6: Mark Murphy for decades and now it's dead policy and

1781
01:25:05,720 --> 01:25:08,360
Speaker 6: they got to figure out a new deal. And they're

1782
01:25:09,320 --> 01:25:13,320
Speaker 6: the Packers are always the seventh seed and seemingly a

1783
01:25:13,400 --> 01:25:15,760
Speaker 6: bit underachieving even though it's the seven seed. A couple

1784
01:25:15,760 --> 01:25:17,320
Speaker 6: of years ago they went to Dallas and mocked the

1785
01:25:17,360 --> 01:25:19,960
Speaker 6: Cowboys on wild Card weekend and that game was over

1786
01:25:20,000 --> 01:25:23,479
Speaker 6: in the third quarter. But I'm not saying he's out

1787
01:25:23,520 --> 01:25:27,120
Speaker 6: if they lose, just saying it'll be interesting. And then

1788
01:25:27,400 --> 01:25:30,240
Speaker 6: the Sean McDermott. I think Sean McDermott's a hell of

1789
01:25:30,240 --> 01:25:32,599
Speaker 6: a coat, just not his fault. The defense is always injured.

1790
01:25:33,160 --> 01:25:37,000
Speaker 6: But like this is their quote unquote best path to

1791
01:25:37,080 --> 01:25:42,320
Speaker 6: the super one, but it is far from their best team.

1792
01:25:42,520 --> 01:25:43,760
Speaker 3: Yes, agreed, it is.

1793
01:25:43,800 --> 01:25:45,720
Speaker 5: I think, in fact, it's probably top to bottom, the

1794
01:25:45,760 --> 01:25:47,880
Speaker 5: weakest team you've had kind of in this run.

1795
01:25:48,000 --> 01:25:48,719
Speaker 3: One hundred percent.

1796
01:25:49,320 --> 01:25:53,519
Speaker 5: Yeah, yep, absolutely, all right, let's talk about our situation

1797
01:25:53,600 --> 01:25:55,519
Speaker 5: because we didn't get to talk about that. Obviously, you

1798
01:25:55,960 --> 01:25:57,840
Speaker 5: knew Kevin very well as I did. You got to

1799
01:25:57,880 --> 01:25:59,800
Speaker 5: talk You talk to him every single week, as did I.

1800
01:26:01,000 --> 01:26:03,000
Speaker 5: You know, what did you make of the decision, and

1801
01:26:03,040 --> 01:26:05,120
Speaker 5: then the structure that has left Andrew Berry leading the

1802
01:26:05,120 --> 01:26:07,960
Speaker 5: coaching search for the Cleveland Browns and where you think

1803
01:26:07,960 --> 01:26:09,599
Speaker 5: and what you've heard about Kevin and where he could

1804
01:26:09,680 --> 01:26:10,880
Speaker 5: end up, because it does seem like he's going to

1805
01:26:10,880 --> 01:26:12,000
Speaker 5: be a head coach in this cycle.

1806
01:26:12,280 --> 01:26:13,759
Speaker 3: And then you know, kind of looking.

1807
01:26:13,560 --> 01:26:17,160
Speaker 5: At our opening, the fact we're interviewing, you know, the

1808
01:26:17,160 --> 01:26:20,040
Speaker 5: candidate's in house today, Jim Schwartz and Tommy Reese, and

1809
01:26:20,080 --> 01:26:21,720
Speaker 5: then we'll be expanding that search and I know Todd

1810
01:26:21,800 --> 01:26:23,519
Speaker 5: Unkin's name certainly on that list already.

1811
01:26:23,760 --> 01:26:23,960
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1812
01:26:24,000 --> 01:26:27,920
Speaker 6: I think they're both good candidates, obviously, Schwartz and Tommy.

1813
01:26:28,520 --> 01:26:30,639
Speaker 6: I don't if Tommy's going to be a head coach

1814
01:26:31,280 --> 01:26:33,559
Speaker 6: one day somewhere, whether it's in the NFL or he's

1815
01:26:33,560 --> 01:26:37,280
Speaker 6: going to get a Power five head coaching job soon.

1816
01:26:37,560 --> 01:26:39,400
Speaker 6: Likely that's not gonna happen this year, because you know,

1817
01:26:39,439 --> 01:26:42,120
Speaker 6: that carousel, for all intents and purposes in college has

1818
01:26:42,160 --> 01:26:44,479
Speaker 6: already stopped spinning. But Tommy will be a head coach

1819
01:26:44,920 --> 01:26:47,559
Speaker 6: at some point. Jim Schwartz and you guys went through

1820
01:26:47,840 --> 01:26:51,080
Speaker 6: his lines record before was a good NFL head coach.

1821
01:26:51,280 --> 01:26:54,360
Speaker 6: He has proven to be since then a great NFL

1822
01:26:54,400 --> 01:26:57,600
Speaker 6: defensive coordinator again as he was before he was a

1823
01:26:57,640 --> 01:27:00,000
Speaker 6: head coach. I would not have any problem with him

1824
01:27:00,160 --> 01:27:02,760
Speaker 6: taken over at all. You have to figure out what

1825
01:27:02,800 --> 01:27:04,479
Speaker 6: are you going to do with the offense? Is it Tommy?

1826
01:27:04,640 --> 01:27:06,680
Speaker 6: And who's your quarterback? I mean those are questions that

1827
01:27:06,880 --> 01:27:10,479
Speaker 6: still linger here. Tommy was obviously the OC last year,

1828
01:27:10,520 --> 01:27:12,960
Speaker 6: didn't call plays until the second half of the season.

1829
01:27:13,000 --> 01:27:15,680
Speaker 6: I thought, a new set of eyes on everything. I

1830
01:27:15,720 --> 01:27:17,560
Speaker 6: thought I did a good job. Yeah, I thought I

1831
01:27:17,600 --> 01:27:20,160
Speaker 6: did a good job considering the limitations and what he

1832
01:27:20,240 --> 01:27:22,719
Speaker 6: was working with. Absolutely, if you want to go outside

1833
01:27:22,760 --> 01:27:26,360
Speaker 6: the building, like I said, Matt Lafleur not available, I

1834
01:27:26,400 --> 01:27:28,600
Speaker 6: think he's fantastic. I know a lot of people that

1835
01:27:28,840 --> 01:27:33,080
Speaker 6: really like Dan Pitcher. If you go with it.

1836
01:27:33,240 --> 01:27:34,960
Speaker 5: Tell us a little about him, because I don't know

1837
01:27:35,040 --> 01:27:36,320
Speaker 5: much about him. I know that he's been in their

1838
01:27:36,400 --> 01:27:38,640
Speaker 5: organization for a while, he's the OC but doesn't call

1839
01:27:38,720 --> 01:27:42,240
Speaker 5: plays right what And I know that he obviously has

1840
01:27:42,280 --> 01:27:45,080
Speaker 5: the ties back in Indianapolis too Andrew Barry.

1841
01:27:45,400 --> 01:27:48,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, So I don't know Dan personally. I know a

1842
01:27:48,160 --> 01:27:51,160
Speaker 6: lot of people that respect the heck out of him.

1843
01:27:51,200 --> 01:27:54,080
Speaker 6: My issue with the Cincinnati offense has always been in

1844
01:27:54,120 --> 01:27:56,519
Speaker 6: part of this is just what Joe Burrow wants to do,

1845
01:27:57,320 --> 01:28:00,960
Speaker 6: is that they are far too pass heavy for my liking.

1846
01:28:02,320 --> 01:28:04,760
Speaker 6: This year, I don't know what the numbers were at

1847
01:28:04,760 --> 01:28:07,800
Speaker 6: the end of the season. Obviously, it's hard to really

1848
01:28:07,840 --> 01:28:10,800
Speaker 6: get a full picture here because Brow missed, you know,

1849
01:28:10,840 --> 01:28:12,639
Speaker 6: a good part of the season. But Chase Brown had

1850
01:28:12,680 --> 01:28:17,200
Speaker 6: his best year, so it's they seemingly leaned into the

1851
01:28:17,280 --> 01:28:19,240
Speaker 6: run a little bit more. I don't know that we're

1852
01:28:19,240 --> 01:28:20,880
Speaker 6: built to be a pass heavy offense. I don't know

1853
01:28:20,920 --> 01:28:22,839
Speaker 6: that we're built to be a run heavy offense. Obviously,

1854
01:28:22,880 --> 01:28:25,240
Speaker 6: the previous administration, at least in the first couple of

1855
01:28:25,320 --> 01:28:27,320
Speaker 6: years where the Browns had success and made the playoffs,

1856
01:28:27,320 --> 01:28:31,280
Speaker 6: twice in those four years where a run first team.

1857
01:28:31,880 --> 01:28:34,840
Speaker 6: But Dan's young, He's in his thirties. You know a

1858
01:28:34,840 --> 01:28:37,960
Speaker 6: lot of people thought he should have gotten interviews last

1859
01:28:38,040 --> 01:28:40,040
Speaker 6: year and did not. He'll probably get them here if

1860
01:28:40,040 --> 01:28:45,559
Speaker 6: you go defense. I want the same system like Dirtey

1861
01:28:46,000 --> 01:28:48,720
Speaker 6: out of Seattle, who is a really interesting guy. I

1862
01:28:48,760 --> 01:28:50,320
Speaker 6: don't know that he's ready for the people that I

1863
01:28:50,320 --> 01:28:53,439
Speaker 6: talked to you to quote unquote be the guy they

1864
01:28:53,880 --> 01:28:56,599
Speaker 6: they don't run or he didn't run with Mike McDonald

1865
01:28:56,640 --> 01:29:00,000
Speaker 6: Schwartz's system. That's not what Mike McDonald did in Seattle.

1866
01:29:02,040 --> 01:29:04,400
Speaker 6: I would love to keep the same system. I don't

1867
01:29:04,400 --> 01:29:06,040
Speaker 6: want to go to a three four and make Miles

1868
01:29:06,080 --> 01:29:10,439
Speaker 6: a stand the linebacker. No one wants that. So I'm

1869
01:29:10,439 --> 01:29:13,040
Speaker 6: all for keeping Schwartz and trying to figure out the

1870
01:29:13,040 --> 01:29:13,559
Speaker 6: rest of it.

1871
01:29:14,800 --> 01:29:18,000
Speaker 5: When agree and the defense is a super Bowl caliber defense,

1872
01:29:18,040 --> 01:29:20,240
Speaker 5: and we've seen that we have guys that fit this system,

1873
01:29:20,360 --> 01:29:22,800
Speaker 5: it makes a lot of sense now. As they said

1874
01:29:22,840 --> 01:29:25,920
Speaker 5: in the interviews, both Jimmy Haslman obviously and Andrew Berry

1875
01:29:25,920 --> 01:29:28,719
Speaker 5: that you know, whatever the coach, whoever the new coaches

1876
01:29:28,760 --> 01:29:30,920
Speaker 5: ha's run this football operation, they're going to have their say.

1877
01:29:30,960 --> 01:29:33,479
Speaker 5: But it feels kind of there is some logic to, hey,

1878
01:29:34,160 --> 01:29:36,160
Speaker 5: this isn't broken over here. In fact, this is quite good.

1879
01:29:36,240 --> 01:29:38,680
Speaker 5: Let's let's keep that and let's let that roll. You

1880
01:29:38,720 --> 01:29:42,000
Speaker 5: are close with the RAMS organization and somebody that I

1881
01:29:42,120 --> 01:29:44,240
Speaker 5: like there you're out in La. Mike Lafleur, who is

1882
01:29:44,280 --> 01:29:46,800
Speaker 5: with us in twenty fourteen. He's a name that I

1883
01:29:46,840 --> 01:29:49,479
Speaker 5: think is very interesting. What you know, can you tell

1884
01:29:49,520 --> 01:29:51,120
Speaker 5: us about how he's kind of evolved? And you know,

1885
01:29:51,240 --> 01:29:53,040
Speaker 5: I like the fact that he's been He's been with Kyle.

1886
01:29:53,320 --> 01:29:55,519
Speaker 5: He was with Kyle here, with Kyle in Atlanta, was

1887
01:29:55,560 --> 01:29:57,879
Speaker 5: with Kyle in San Francisco when he and Mike McDaniel

1888
01:29:57,960 --> 01:29:59,680
Speaker 5: kind of worked under Kyle and handled the run in

1889
01:29:59,680 --> 01:30:02,240
Speaker 5: the past game together. And then now he went with

1890
01:30:02,280 --> 01:30:04,880
Speaker 5: the Jets, with solid to the Jets, but now with

1891
01:30:05,000 --> 01:30:08,000
Speaker 5: McVeigh in LA for a darn good RAMS team.

1892
01:30:08,200 --> 01:30:10,519
Speaker 6: I love Mike. His time with the Jets obviously not

1893
01:30:10,920 --> 01:30:12,720
Speaker 6: the most memorable because they all got blown out and

1894
01:30:12,760 --> 01:30:15,320
Speaker 6: he lost the play calling stuff. But I love Mike.

1895
01:30:15,360 --> 01:30:17,720
Speaker 6: I think he would be a good head coach. The

1896
01:30:17,840 --> 01:30:21,560
Speaker 6: name let me throw another name match you. Nate Schilhouse,

1897
01:30:21,640 --> 01:30:25,160
Speaker 6: who is who is the coordinator with the Rams. He

1898
01:30:25,240 --> 01:30:26,680
Speaker 6: is going to be a head coach. I don't know

1899
01:30:26,720 --> 01:30:28,360
Speaker 6: that it is going to be this year. There are

1900
01:30:28,439 --> 01:30:33,080
Speaker 6: people that will whisper he's a year two away, and

1901
01:30:33,120 --> 01:30:34,960
Speaker 6: then there are other people that will say he might

1902
01:30:35,000 --> 01:30:38,080
Speaker 6: be a year or two away. But would you rather

1903
01:30:38,200 --> 01:30:39,760
Speaker 6: be too early or too late?

1904
01:30:40,080 --> 01:30:40,439
Speaker 3: Too late?

1905
01:30:40,560 --> 01:30:43,120
Speaker 6: Yep, for the guy who is definitely going to be

1906
01:30:43,160 --> 01:30:46,760
Speaker 6: a head coach, he will. I would guess he'll be

1907
01:30:46,800 --> 01:30:49,240
Speaker 6: in OC somewhere next year. A matter fact, I keep

1908
01:30:49,240 --> 01:30:50,920
Speaker 6: an eye on him in Tampa as an OC.

1909
01:30:51,760 --> 01:30:56,400
Speaker 5: Okay, all right. The Great ANDREWS. Ceciliano, Syracuse Hall of Famer,

1910
01:30:56,439 --> 01:30:59,719
Speaker 5: played by play voice of the Cleveland Browns, enjoying things

1911
01:30:59,760 --> 01:31:02,280
Speaker 5: on Left Coast. Thanks for the time, buddy, always great

1912
01:31:02,320 --> 01:31:05,040
Speaker 5: talking to you. Love you man, all right, Love you too, brother.

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Speaker 4: All right.

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