1 00:00:01,080 --> 00:00:05,240 Speaker 1: Don't listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio living the dream 2 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 1: once again here on a fully loaded Sports Saturday. 3 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:12,559 Speaker 2: This is Fox Sports Saturday and we're broadcasting live from 4 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:15,319 Speaker 2: the Fox Sports Radio Studios VJ. 5 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:18,079 Speaker 3: We get bonus time this weekend. 6 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:23,279 Speaker 2: Wow, four hours coming up here today our normal three 7 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 2: hours on Sunday. So yes, we are all over the 8 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 2: airways here on the massive Fox Sports Radio network. 9 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 1: Husky and Hartman Man Husk and Harmon Hartman Husky. However 10 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 1: you want to say, it don't matter, man. We getting 11 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:38,959 Speaker 1: that money and there's a lot going on. That's what's 12 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 1: so great about today. Man, if it felt like a Sunday, Man, 13 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 1: I'm a little under the weather. Woke up this morning, 14 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 1: went through some stuff last night in the middle of 15 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 1: to night. But I said, you know what, I get 16 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 1: to go talk sports and it's preseason football. 17 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:52,240 Speaker 3: Baseball's popular right now. 18 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 1: Is so much happening to talk about, and I'd rather 19 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 1: do it with nobody but you so let's go. 20 00:00:57,680 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 3: Well, let's do it. 21 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 2: By the way, last night, for my TV work, I 22 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 2: was out of Dodgers Stadium to do my early hits 23 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 2: pregame hits from the stadium. A couple of things being 24 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 2: around the Dodgers right now. First of all, again, the 25 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 2: whole atmosphere of around the Dodgers, every time I met 26 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 2: Dodger Stadium, I understand this. 27 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:19,120 Speaker 3: VG. 28 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 2: I had a conversation with a young lady at works 29 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 2: local television in LA. She just got started. Her name 30 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 2: is Olivia Garvey. She is the daughter of Steve Garvey. Yes, 31 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 2: very sweet, and we were reminiscing and I was, you know, 32 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 2: I mean reminiscing. I was reminiscing and she was attentive. 33 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 2: So she was being very nice to the old guy 34 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 2: hanging out and telling stories about my history with her father. 35 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 2: But every time I'm at Dodger Staum, I have such 36 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 2: a long history at Dodger Stadium. I had just layers 37 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 2: after layers after layers times that I was there all 38 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 2: the time. But it was an interesting day because it 39 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 2: was August eighth. 40 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 3: And when you think of the number eight. 41 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 2: In the city of Los Angeles, when it comes to sports, 42 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 2: Kobe Bryant, It's Kobe Bryant. And so what do they 43 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 2: have last night? They had Kobe Bryant bobble bubble. So 44 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 2: I got ad and I brought it home to my 45 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 2: son Garrett, who you had a chance to meet. He 46 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 2: is a die hard Laker fan to the core. Kobe 47 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 2: was his all time favorite. 48 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 1: And I handed over that bobblehead to him last night. 49 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:29,359 Speaker 1: I actually saw it this morning. First thing. 50 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:31,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's because you're a dope, dad man. That's why. 51 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:32,959 Speaker 1: What are you going to do with it? You know 52 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 1: what I mean? You have the memories, you have the 53 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 1: the the interactions. When I covered the Lakers, everything they 54 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 1: give away I've taken home to my children. I've kept 55 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:48,080 Speaker 1: anything from a Ram game, Charger game, Laker game, Clipper game, Kings. 56 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:49,920 Speaker 1: I've done the Kings in the playoffs and the regular 57 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 1: seem the Dodgers. Everything I've been giving accept except for 58 00:02:54,720 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 1: my Jackie Robinson felt cat. That's that's daddy's. Yeah, that's that. 59 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 1: I'll leave it in the wheel to camera. I'll leave 60 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 1: it in my will form. I haven't even worn it yet, 61 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:07,919 Speaker 1: but that was the giveaway for Jackie Robinson night Magic 62 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 1: Johnson was there. 63 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 3: It was star studying. 64 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:13,920 Speaker 1: They gave out the old school Felt Brooklyn Dodgers with 65 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 1: the big forty two on the side and then the 66 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 1: Jackie Robinson autograph on the right side, and I was like, 67 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 1: this is the giveaway tonight. And I've never even put it. 68 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 1: I've never even worn it out in public. But that's 69 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:24,799 Speaker 1: the only thing I kept. But everything else, like you, 70 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 1: I give him games, I get them. Oh yeah, I 71 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 1: mean you want to give something that they appreciate, right, 72 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 1: you know. 73 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 2: And obviously for him it was funny because his brother 74 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 2: saw it and he wanted to take it out of 75 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 2: the box. 76 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 1: He goes, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, Crazy stays 77 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 1: at the box. That's a fight. I told him. 78 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 2: I said, I did have to take out of the 79 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 2: box the show it on TV. I put it right 80 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 2: back in the box. So anyway, it was it was 81 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 2: great to be out of the ballpark, big series. So 82 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 2: the Dodgers right now, they went into the series two 83 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 2: games up on the pod race and you're playing the 84 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 2: best team in the American like the Toronto Blue Jays. 85 00:03:57,280 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 2: And this was a classic matchup, you know, one of 86 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 2: those days where you go it's Clayton Kershaw versus Max Scherzer. 87 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 2: And to show you how crazy this is. September seventh, 88 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 2: two thousand and eight, two rookie pitchers, literally in their 89 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 2: first year in Major League baseball. Clayton Kershaw, the Dodgers 90 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:27,159 Speaker 2: and Max Schurzer with the Arizona Diamondbacks started a game 91 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:30,719 Speaker 2: against each other on September seventh, two thousand and eight, 92 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 2: And here we are seventeen years later, beautiful and these 93 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:36,719 Speaker 2: two guys, by the way, after the game, they exchanged jerseys. 94 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 2: They both pitched well. Surezer made one mistake to Mookie 95 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 2: Bats he hit it out and that was enough to 96 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 2: beat him. 97 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 3: Kershaw pitch well. 98 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 2: But these two guys obviously mutual respect, future first ballot 99 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 2: Hall of Famers. But when you you know, this is 100 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:52,279 Speaker 2: the thing about sports, and obviously you're like me, We're 101 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 2: into the history. We want to know this. You know, 102 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:58,279 Speaker 2: we appreciate where we've been. Obviously we were very focused 103 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:00,480 Speaker 2: on where we're going. But when you I have one 104 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:03,160 Speaker 2: of these type of moments where you get two guys 105 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:06,279 Speaker 2: that have just you know, the great competitors, first ballot 106 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:09,359 Speaker 2: Hall of famers, both three time Cy Young Award winners, 107 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 2: both in the three thousand strikeout club. And to think 108 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 2: that they faced off as rookies, true rookies, on September seven, 109 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 2: two thousand and eight, and to see him back out 110 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 2: there seventeen years later, that was special. 111 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 1: Of course, it was special. But that's what the football 112 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:24,840 Speaker 1: gods gives us. And that's something I always talk about 113 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 1: and preach on. Is I truly believe in the football guys. Guys, 114 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 1: it's not just radio jargon to attag like a saying 115 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:32,920 Speaker 1: to my name, That's not what it is. 116 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 3: I really do believe. 117 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 1: That sometimes in sports, the football gods take care of us, man, 118 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 1: and they give us these gyms, They give us this history, 119 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:43,600 Speaker 1: they give us this longevity of players that have been 120 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 1: going at I'm not the biggest Lebriny knows that Lebron's 121 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:49,280 Speaker 1: not my guy at all, but we do have a nice. 122 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:50,599 Speaker 3: Longevity run of him. 123 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:53,840 Speaker 1: And Steph Right and Wurmas are the opening NBA game 124 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 1: game exactly opening this year. What are they gonna do? 125 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:58,280 Speaker 1: You know what, even though I don't believe either one 126 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 1: of those guys are gonna win a championship along with Get, 127 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 1: I think those three guys, that era of championships it's gone, 128 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 1: but they are still the two names exactly, so still 129 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:08,839 Speaker 1: we can go, Wow, let's go back to two thousand 130 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:11,039 Speaker 1: and seven or two thousand and eight when they first 131 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 1: faced each other and then we had the four straight 132 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 1: year run in the NBA Finals against each other. And 133 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 1: we've had Christmas Day, We've had Martin Luther King Night, 134 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 1: MLK Day where they faced each other, and then and 135 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 1: then in the year what it is twenty one or 136 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:24,919 Speaker 1: twenty two for Lebron and what would it be for Steph? 137 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 1: Isn't it like fIF fifteen or sixteen for stuff? And 138 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:30,600 Speaker 1: here we are matching these two, as you said, first 139 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 1: ballot Hall of Famers. 140 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 3: Up against each other once again. 141 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:36,600 Speaker 1: It's just the sports guys, just giving us some good 142 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:38,480 Speaker 1: stuff to watch, man, and some good stuff to take 143 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:40,839 Speaker 1: with us. As like you said, this will be history. 144 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 1: This will be something we talk to our grandkids about about. 145 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 1: Hey man, these guys were so good for so long. 146 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 1: I remember when they first started out against each other, 147 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 1: and in year eighteen, nineteen twenty twenty one, they were 148 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 1: still lining up against each other from across each other, 149 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:56,840 Speaker 1: competing on the highest level in their sport. It's the 150 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 1: sports guys, man, It's a beautiful thing. I appreciate it. 151 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:01,840 Speaker 2: I was approached by a young man yesterday down the field. 152 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:04,599 Speaker 2: He was working for one of the Dodger outlets, and 153 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 2: introduced himself to me and he goes, you know, I've 154 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 2: been listening to you since I was a kid. Now 155 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 2: when he said kid, I'm thinking, okay, well maybe he 156 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 2: goes back to Chad forty and he goes, no, I 157 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 2: mean with Michael Thompson and Victor Brick. 158 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 1: I'm like, your kid. 159 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 2: Then that was only twenty years ago, right, I'm like, okay, 160 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 2: that was my second act. But that for most people 161 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 2: listening out there, your interest in sports was passed down 162 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 2: to you. 163 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 1: That's usually the way it goes. 164 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 2: And then you pass it down and it goes generation 165 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 2: after generation. So you know, taking a moment to pause 166 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 2: and suddenly like time. 167 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 1: Flies are like wow, I mean it's. 168 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 2: Really sure's her and Kurshar At that point, even even 169 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 2: Curshaw said after the game, after the exchanged, Jersey goes, 170 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 2: you know, it was incredible that we faced off his rookies. 171 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 2: And then he didn't want to say our last year, 172 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 2: but he goes, he goes, He started to say, and 173 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 2: maybe our last year, but he goes, well, let's put 174 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 2: it this way. 175 00:07:57,040 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 3: Near the end of our careers to have this again. 176 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 2: So it was a special night out there at Dodger Stadium. 177 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 2: Now I'm postponing the inevitable with my esteem partner here. 178 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 2: I'm delaying it a little bit because I want to 179 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 2: preface before we get into the overplay on what happened 180 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 2: yesterday to something that we spoke about last week. So 181 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 2: last Sunday, we were still talking about the Hall of 182 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 2: Fame game, and we were talking about the performance of 183 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 2: Trey Lance, and you and I both said, let's not 184 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:39,839 Speaker 2: overplay this. Let's not all these people talking about Trey Lance. 185 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 2: Look out, good Trey Lance. 186 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 3: Look I didn't say that. I don't remember you. 187 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 2: What I'm saying is, if we're going to overplay individual 188 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 2: performance in a preseason game, let me just start by saying, 189 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:04,440 Speaker 2: the New England Patriots are going to win the Super 190 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 2: Bowl this year because they absolutely blew the doors off 191 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 2: the Commanders. Last I watched that game, forty eight to eighteen. 192 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:18,560 Speaker 2: Absolute domination, as Mike Vrabel definitely got the Patriots back 193 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:22,680 Speaker 2: on track. So look, I will say this about preseason football, 194 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 2: and this I'm sincerely believe for certain teams and certain players, 195 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 2: preseason matters. 196 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 1: In terms of just for teams. 197 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 2: That are bad, like the New England Patriots, to walk 198 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:41,200 Speaker 2: off the field a winner, even if it's a game 199 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 2: that doesn't count, especially with a new coach. 200 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:46,560 Speaker 1: I think that matters. 201 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 2: I think it it allows you to go to that 202 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 2: next week of preparation, maybe with a little gidda up 203 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 2: in your steps saying Okay, yeah, we're buying into what 204 00:09:58,520 --> 00:09:58,959 Speaker 2: you're saying. 205 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:01,719 Speaker 3: Same thing with certain players. 206 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 2: Especially quarterbacks that are trying to develop their game, whether 207 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:08,680 Speaker 2: it's a new system or the rookies or whatever may 208 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:13,200 Speaker 2: be on a new team. Yeah, it's important to get comfortable. 209 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 2: And so I will finally say to the name Shadoor Sanders, 210 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 2: and at the very least I will say this about 211 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:23,959 Speaker 2: his performance against the Panthers. He looked comfortable, and he 212 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 2: even admitted afterwards he felt like himself. All right, now, 213 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:31,320 Speaker 2: I'm gonna step back, because ladies and gentlemen, this is 214 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 2: a man on a mission to tell the world you 215 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 2: were wrong. 216 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 4: Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong. 217 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:39,840 Speaker 1: Wrong, wrong wrong if you've ever doubted shardor Sanders for 218 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 1: even a second. I'm not gonna do that yet, because 219 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 1: what I'm not gonna do is I'm not going to 220 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 1: overreact either way. Just like I did with Trey Lance 221 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 1: last week. You use the word that we both said, 222 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 1: what Harball makes his quarterbacks feel, and that was comfortable. 223 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 1: You myself and Mont sat right here and use that 224 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:04,200 Speaker 1: exact same adjective. Is that he looked comfortable. Why because 225 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 1: that's what Jim Harball does with his quarterbacks. Now, Kevin 226 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 1: Stefanski won't ever be, I think touted as a quarterback whisper. 227 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 1: But what the man can do is coach football. That's 228 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 1: just bottom line. He's in Cleveland. We know what Cleveland is. 229 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:22,559 Speaker 1: It's like the Royals, It's like the Charlotte Hornets. You 230 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 1: just don't ever believe they'll be good, because when if 231 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 1: you've ever seen him over the last thirty to forty years, 232 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:30,320 Speaker 1: be good. It's hard to really look at a team, 233 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:32,560 Speaker 1: no matter what player they have, no matter whether it's 234 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield or whether they got a great coach there, 235 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 1: it's the name Cleveland Browns just still kind of just 236 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:41,680 Speaker 1: hangs on you and you're you're waiting for it to 237 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 1: go wrong. Speaking on Shador last night, you're right, he 238 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 1: looked comfortable. But what did people really expect? Did you 239 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 1: really think Shador Sanders, who was gonna go out kid 240 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:54,679 Speaker 1: who led the nation and pass completion percentage of seventy 241 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 1: four percent last year through four over four thousand yards 242 00:11:56,960 --> 00:11:58,719 Speaker 1: last year like. 243 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 3: It was Big Ten Player of the Year, Like the 244 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:01,199 Speaker 3: kid balled. 245 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 1: Did you expect him to step on the field and 246 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:07,320 Speaker 1: completely just throw up on himself and not know what's 247 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 1: going on, get shook by any coverage he saw or 248 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 1: any disguise he saw. There were times where now one 249 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 1: thing I will point on you. I've said it since 250 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 1: I've watched them at Jackson State. And he's got to 251 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:19,439 Speaker 1: clean it up. And this to show you how reallyant 252 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 1: when I judge God's even that I love. He has 253 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:24,680 Speaker 1: got to stop back pedaling out of trouble. 254 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 3: He loses yard shador. 255 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:30,080 Speaker 1: You're gonna learn to just step up or fall down 256 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 1: and take the sack or throw the ball at the 257 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 1: lineman's feet. I get you want to make a play, 258 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:36,200 Speaker 1: and last night you made a few doing it, But 259 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:38,559 Speaker 1: there are also two other situations where when you did 260 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 1: that back pedaling trying to get out of trouble, and 261 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:44,199 Speaker 1: you didn't throw an interception or get to take a sack. 262 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 1: But it just was it was a bad play, and 263 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 1: as an NFL quarterback, he's got to clean that up. 264 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:52,439 Speaker 3: But the comfortability is who the kid is. 265 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 1: We keep forgetting this kid was raised in the NFL 266 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:59,720 Speaker 1: he was raised in football. His dad is one of 267 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 1: the raiders all around athletes we've ever seen on Earth. 268 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:07,720 Speaker 1: His father was not chop liver people. His dad went 269 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:11,680 Speaker 1: through everything you can go through on and off the 270 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 1: field as a football player. Do you think Shador sat 271 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 1: there and just paid no attention to it? And Coach 272 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:20,440 Speaker 1: Prime didn't didn't like poured this into his children. So 273 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 1: to say that he got on the field and you 274 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:25,440 Speaker 1: look comfortable, my only rebuttal is what did you guys 275 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 1: expect the kid to look like? You? Guys? 276 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 3: People really think this kid's trash. 277 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 1: That's the thing I think that's getting me so rouled 278 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 1: up is that we look at him and we saw 279 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 1: Jackson Dart. 280 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 3: We saw Jackson Dart right. Let mean like some of 281 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 3: these other quarterbacks. 282 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 1: I tweeted, you know how bad teams are at picking quarterback? Steve? 283 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 1: The Colts have two top five pick and it last 284 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 1: like eight years and they. 285 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 2: Both still sucked. Well, look at the Jets they right there. 286 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:50,959 Speaker 2: How many top picks do they have there? 287 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:53,560 Speaker 3: And they're and all their quarterbacks still are bad. 288 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:56,960 Speaker 2: Well, they're bad because they go to bad organizations. Again, 289 00:13:57,280 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 2: when we when we qualify a quarterback as a bust, 290 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 2: and we had plenty of those over the years. First 291 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:07,079 Speaker 2: for the picks, the majority of those guys had the ability, 292 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 2: of course, they had the ability to be successful. Wrong system, 293 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 2: wrong coach, wrong organization, wrong place, wrong time, can't pick 294 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:16,559 Speaker 2: up the. 295 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 1: Game the time, can't pick up the game, don't adjust 296 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 1: to it. It's it's again. 297 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 3: NFL teams. 298 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 2: I believe this is far more true in the NFL 299 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 2: than other sports because in baseball it's a very individual sport. 300 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 3: You're a hitter, you're pitcher right right. 301 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:38,239 Speaker 2: You know, in the NBA you can be so dominant 302 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 2: as an individual player. You can literally change an entire team, 303 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 2: even if you're surrounded by crap by yourself. 304 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 1: Yourself, you went forty eight games by yourself. If you've 305 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 1: got game, you cannot remember this. 306 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 2: Larry Bird his first year, the Celtics went from twenty 307 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 2: nine wins to sixty one. And that was the year 308 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 2: before they brought in Robert Parrish and Kevin Mayle. The 309 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 2: year before, I'm one guy thirty two more wins. But 310 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 2: in the NFL there's just too many moving pieces. And 311 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 2: if you are this is what I used to give 312 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 2: Belichick credit for, and the Patriots organization for their sustained 313 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 2: success over two decade period. What they did better than 314 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 2: any other team in the league was to identify what 315 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 2: it is a player does best and then this is 316 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 2: a novel idea, put. 317 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 3: Him in a position to succeed. 318 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 1: Succeed. 319 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 2: So we're gonna where this is what you do well, 320 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 2: and so we're gonna put you in a position to 321 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 2: actually maximize what it is we know you do best, 322 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 2: so your job. No organization did that better than the 323 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 2: New England Patriots, and that's why they had sustained success because. 324 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 1: You'd be shocked. You say, this should be obvious, and 325 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 1: you see a quarter back run one type of system 326 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 1: in college and then they run a completely different system 327 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 1: in the NFL, and they're shock, Wow, he's not good. 328 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 2: He can't do this, and it's like he never did 329 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 2: give the give the Ravens credit. Right, you were running 330 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 2: one system for Joe Flacco and then you went to 331 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson. Lamar Jackson is not Joe Flacco. They changed 332 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 2: their system to Lamar Jackson. 333 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 1: Brilliant. 334 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 2: It seems so obvious, and yet you'll be stunned how 335 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 2: many teams repeat the same mistakes over and over again. 336 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 2: Trying to put the old square peg in a round 337 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 2: hole and shock when it doesn't feel. 338 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 1: And one thing else about Shador last night that I 339 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 1: saw too, his teammates love him. Guys, whether you like 340 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 1: it or not, whether you like him or not, or 341 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 1: you don't think that is real, you can listen. When 342 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 1: you coach football, you see the game from a different level. 343 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 1: I thought I knew the game and know the game, 344 00:16:56,840 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 1: but I learned it a lot more as it became 345 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 1: a high school football coach. Because when you're around the 346 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:04,480 Speaker 1: guys every single day, and you're around the kids every 347 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:07,119 Speaker 1: single day, it's not hard to find out who the 348 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 1: players like, who the players question, who the players don't 349 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:12,200 Speaker 1: think can play like. Trust me, even on the high 350 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 1: school level, their guy, they're sixteen and seventeen year olds 351 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:16,680 Speaker 1: that know that there's other sixteen sevent yeers on the 352 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 1: team that cannot play. They're not built for this team. 353 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:21,439 Speaker 1: They're not built mentality wise. They don't stay late, they 354 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 1: don't lift long, they don't stay after practice and run 355 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 1: extra routes and just do extra drugs. Like you see 356 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 1: this when you see the guys know that do it, 357 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 1: and you see the reaction of his teammates, the coaching, 358 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:35,440 Speaker 1: We talk about it privately away from the kids, like, yeah, 359 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:37,439 Speaker 1: they respect that kid. Maybe one thing about making him 360 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 1: a captain, because we see the reaction and last night 361 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 1: it was organic and he didn't play a perfect game, 362 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:45,679 Speaker 1: but he looked comfortable. He got the ball out of 363 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:47,920 Speaker 1: his hands, so the receivers dropped us two first pass 364 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 1: and I'm sitting on the sofa like, oh God, I cannot. 365 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:51,880 Speaker 1: Oh I don't want to have to deal with this tomorrow, 366 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 1: Like here's the receivers are dropping the ball to start 367 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:56,719 Speaker 1: the game. But I think everybody, Steve was a little nervous, 368 00:17:56,720 --> 00:17:57,119 Speaker 1: I really do. 369 00:17:57,119 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 3: I think because. 370 00:17:57,560 --> 00:18:00,479 Speaker 1: Everybody knew what this was. And you want to perform 371 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 1: well for your teammate, you want to block well for 372 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:04,159 Speaker 1: the kid, you want you can. You could just tell 373 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 1: he's slowly becoming a leader on his team, and from 374 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 1: just the body language and everyone that kept going to 375 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 1: him when he would be on the sideline looking at 376 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:15,360 Speaker 1: the iPad, all the players on the team that kept 377 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 1: going to him every single possession, I mean between possessions 378 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 1: and a saying whatever the were saying to him. You 379 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 1: look at that and you go, hey, man, this kid, 380 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 1: this kid might have. Is gonna take a little while 381 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 1: for it to all pour out. But yeah, well again 382 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 1: does put him a comfortable situation doing things you know 383 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:34,880 Speaker 1: he can do, he know he can do. Why not 384 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:38,120 Speaker 1: then as he starts to build, now you add layers, 385 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 1: just a little bit of it. 386 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:41,200 Speaker 3: It's a process. 387 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 2: I mean, we remember Peyton Manning through twenty eight picks 388 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:45,919 Speaker 2: as a rookie quarterback and a bad team. A year 389 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 2: later he's in the playoffs. So it just you know, 390 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 2: guys learning at a different rate, but you know steps. 391 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:53,440 Speaker 2: And remember Dylan Gabriel did not play in this game. 392 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:56,199 Speaker 2: He had a hamstring at the Coming up next, by 393 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 2: the way, it's not gonna be the Panthers, it's the 394 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 2: Eagles on the road, and that's a preseast. I don't 395 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 2: know if the Eagles are gonna show up, but it's 396 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 2: gonna be a different look and we'll get a chance 397 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:06,479 Speaker 2: to see what Dylan Gabriel can do as well. All right, 398 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:10,159 Speaker 2: Coming up on the other side, speaking of young quarterbacks, 399 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 2: the two breakout quarterbacks in the rookie year last year 400 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:16,160 Speaker 2: with James Danis a bow Nicks, right, come rookie quarterbacks 401 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:18,200 Speaker 2: that let their teams of the playoffs. 402 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 1: But the other four first round picks. 403 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 2: Caleb Williams, Drake May, Michael Pennix, Junior, JJ McCarthy. 404 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 1: J Jason. 405 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 2: Right now, which one of those will be the next 406 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 2: breakout quarterback in the NFL? 407 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 1: We're gonna tell you. 408 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:38,880 Speaker 3: This is Fox Sports Saturday. 409 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Jason McIntyre. 410 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 5: Join me every weekday morning on my podcast, Straight Fire 411 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 5: with Jason McIntyre. 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I mean we're Shaun Slater. 435 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 2: I mean yeah, I mean, it's like they just signed 436 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 2: him to the richest deal of any offensive lineman. He 437 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:14,440 Speaker 2: had the injury a couple of years ago, but all 438 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 2: was smooth sailing the Northwestern great and he goes down. 439 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 2: And I went on a San Diego based radio show 440 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 2: on Friday yesterday and they asked me and I said, well, 441 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 2: the Spanos curse is alive and well, and if you 442 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 2: don't believe in curses, there there can be no other 443 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:38,960 Speaker 2: explanation why certain organizations have these type of things happen. 444 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:43,040 Speaker 3: Over and over and over again. But it's crazy. 445 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 2: I mean, it's a good thing they drafted Joe all 446 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:47,840 Speaker 2: but you know, you know, we'll move down to where 447 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 2: he was at Notre Dame on the left side. He 448 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:52,160 Speaker 2: was one of the great college offensive linemen in all time. 449 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 2: But now all of a sudden, you're just a huge 450 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 2: missing piece, especially when you're trying to keep your quarterback 451 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 2: up right. So they're gonna have to shuffle their offensive 452 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 2: line and everything else. But it just it just seems 453 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:05,720 Speaker 2: weird that certain organizations are. 454 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 3: Exactly just they just it's tough, really tough. 455 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 1: But if there's one coach that can maneuver through this, 456 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 1: sure it's jim Harball. It's Jimmy Bergers. I'm telling you, guys, 457 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 1: when you lose a big piece, this is huge. But 458 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 1: don't think for one second that they don't got a 459 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:23,880 Speaker 1: backup that they like our a guy that can step 460 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 1: right in or somebody. He just may not be as 461 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 1: good as the five they got. 462 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:29,640 Speaker 2: But they but they but they that means well, it's 463 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 2: next man in exactly to be a professional. 464 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 3: There's a reason you're on this team. 465 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 1: They've gotten reps in training. Cam whoever's gonna be, he's 466 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:39,200 Speaker 1: gotten reps. He's gone up against number ones and number 467 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:42,440 Speaker 1: two's and and he's still got four other really good 468 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:44,359 Speaker 1: guys around him. Up front. The Chargers have one of 469 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:47,159 Speaker 1: the best offensive lines in football, and the message is 470 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:50,160 Speaker 1: we pound the football. So whoever they're putting in there 471 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 1: is a guy that knows what's expected of him, knows 472 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:53,360 Speaker 1: what to do. 473 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 3: I don't. 474 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:57,240 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say they'll be fine because Rashaun Slater 475 00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:00,159 Speaker 1: might be a top five lineman in the NFL. Like 476 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:01,919 Speaker 1: you said, he just got paid like it got He 477 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 1: just got paid like he's the best in the league. Okay, 478 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:06,440 Speaker 1: the richest contract ever. So this is a chop liver. 479 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:08,480 Speaker 1: This is the blogoney sandwich on the counter with no 480 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:10,720 Speaker 1: mail for two days. He's not one of those guys. 481 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:13,679 Speaker 1: But I do believe they will just plug next man in. 482 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:16,680 Speaker 1: They'll still run the system. They're still gonna do what 483 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 1: hardball teams do. And you still got Herbert at quarterback. 484 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:22,399 Speaker 1: You still got weapons. Keenan Allen comes back, which you 485 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:24,439 Speaker 1: and I talked about months ago. We thought would be 486 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 1: you know, the landing spot form, but you hated to 487 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:29,120 Speaker 1: see this. When I saw this come across my phone, dude, 488 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 1: I literally I literally said out loud, wtf literally out loud. 489 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 2: And we talked about you want to stay healthy in 490 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:36,880 Speaker 2: these preseason ands. 491 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 6: This was in. 492 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:40,360 Speaker 3: Practice, right, it wasn't the game Monday night practice? 493 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, last Thursday. I mean it again is a reminder. 494 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 2: We're reminded over and over and over again. I mean, 495 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:51,160 Speaker 2: did you see the guy's leg go sideways? The kid 496 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:53,720 Speaker 2: from Baltimore done for the year. I mean, it's done 497 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:54,120 Speaker 2: for the year. 498 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:55,159 Speaker 1: Just back it up. 499 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:59,440 Speaker 3: He button the lego sideways and Jared Verse Clyde nees 500 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:01,119 Speaker 3: the other day practice at rams practice too. 501 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:03,199 Speaker 1: This is a kid who was a start as a 502 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:05,920 Speaker 1: defensive rookie last year, who to expect big things from. 503 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:08,679 Speaker 1: But here you are clecking knees and that's dangerous, man, 504 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,119 Speaker 1: because that could be any type. 505 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 3: Of injury, and you know, we'll see, we'll see where 506 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:14,200 Speaker 3: that injury turns. 507 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:17,120 Speaker 2: Once again, we're coming alive from the Fox Sports Radio studio. 508 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:23,119 Speaker 2: So a year ago, first time in NFL history draft history, 509 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 2: six quarterbacks taken in the first twelve picks. Yep, that 510 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 2: never happened in the history of the NFL. If you 511 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 2: want to remember again, Caleb Williams number one overall to 512 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:34,639 Speaker 2: the Bears, Jade and Daniels number two overall to the 513 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 2: Commander's Drake May number three overall to the Patriots, Michael 514 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:42,440 Speaker 2: Pennis Junior, a surprise eighth overall pick by the Atlanta Falcons. 515 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:46,159 Speaker 2: The Minnesota Vikings at number ten, take JJ McCarthy, and 516 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:48,960 Speaker 2: at number twelve the Denver Broncos get bow Knicks. Two 517 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 2: of those quarterbacks have already cemented it. Yeah, Jade and 518 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 2: Daniels and bow Knicks as rookies took teams that no 519 00:24:56,560 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 2: one thought were playoff teams and got to the playoffs. 520 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 2: So okay, both those guys you can check as okay, 521 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:05,200 Speaker 2: they can play in this league. 522 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 3: One kid got to the conference championship. 523 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, and one guy got to the conference and well 524 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 2: one guy honestly had one of the great rookie seasons 525 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 2: of many fou Yeah, all right, So now what about 526 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:16,359 Speaker 2: the other four guys. You got Caleb Williams of the Bears, 527 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:18,919 Speaker 2: Drake May with the Patriots, you got Michael PENNOCKX junior 528 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:22,359 Speaker 2: with the Falcons, and he got JJ McCarthy with the Vikings. 529 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:27,720 Speaker 2: Which one of those quarterbacks are you serious? 530 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:29,200 Speaker 1: Will be the one. 531 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:32,119 Speaker 2: Because I know we're going to disagree on this, all right, 532 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:37,720 Speaker 2: will be the one that checks the box saying he's 533 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 2: in Okay, I mean, and again we've seen great quarterback. 534 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 2: RG Three's rookie season with the then Redskins was phenomenal. 535 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:51,400 Speaker 2: He beat remember he beat out Andrew Luck for Offensive 536 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:53,720 Speaker 2: Rookie of the Year that year seven straight wins to 537 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:55,720 Speaker 2: get his team in the playoffs, got hurt in the playoffs, 538 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:58,440 Speaker 2: and pretty much his career was over. So there's no 539 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:01,480 Speaker 2: guarantee movie for But I I'm gonna say, just like CJ. 540 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 2: Stroud two years ago, I know he took a bit 541 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:05,479 Speaker 2: of a dip. I'm not worried about the Texans. They 542 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 2: got their quarterback in CJ. 543 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 1: Strout. 544 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:10,639 Speaker 2: So we're checking out Jayden Daniels and bow Knicks. Who's 545 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:11,200 Speaker 2: the next guy? 546 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:13,639 Speaker 3: We say, all right, he's good. That's their quarterback. 547 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:16,760 Speaker 2: I'm gonna start with you, man, which one of those 548 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:20,200 Speaker 2: four quarterbacks Caleb Williams, Drake May, Michael Pennock, Junior. JJ 549 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 2: McCarthy will be saying, boom, that is their quarterback for 550 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 2: the near future. 551 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:27,159 Speaker 3: This is easy for me. You already know who it is. 552 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:28,359 Speaker 3: This is easy for me. 553 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:32,719 Speaker 1: This is Jay J. McCarthy. That's exactly who this is. 554 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 1: The kid missed last year. But trust me, guys, he 555 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:37,280 Speaker 1: was gonna beat out Sam Donald and camp. He was 556 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 1: having a great preseason, he was having a great training camp. 557 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 1: And I said, back then, Sam Donald looked into that 558 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 1: spot of the starting quarterback. Now did he play well 559 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 1: for the first fourteen to fifteen weeks and then fell 560 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:50,480 Speaker 1: apart like Sam Darnold does. Yes, he played great, But 561 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 1: he also played great because and JJ's gonna have the 562 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 1: exact same set of weapons that this man had. 563 00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:58,320 Speaker 3: You're talking about a top five tide end. 564 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 1: You're talking about a top five offensive line, you're talking 565 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 1: about a top five the top six running game. 566 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:05,160 Speaker 3: You're talking about the best receiver in football. 567 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:08,119 Speaker 1: Is he better than Chase I tell you this. 568 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:10,960 Speaker 3: Let me tell you this. Watching they watching him in 569 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:14,160 Speaker 3: Borrow on those first two drives the other night. 570 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:17,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, wow, if they stop anybody, didn't. 571 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:20,360 Speaker 2: You imagine that he had Joe Burrow had both those 572 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 2: guys in college. 573 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:23,119 Speaker 3: If they were not just him, they all he had 574 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:23,640 Speaker 3: he had. 575 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:25,879 Speaker 1: Uh. I mean, Terris the receiver Tears that was at 576 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,760 Speaker 1: Caroline are the two best receivers in the league. And 577 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:32,439 Speaker 1: he had both of them sixty touchdowns. Man. But but 578 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 1: I'm telling you he still got one of them in Cincinnati. 579 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:41,880 Speaker 1: If they stop anybody this year the AFC, I can't absolutely, 580 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:45,680 Speaker 1: but you have these weapons. And once again JJ McCarthy 581 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,879 Speaker 1: has proven and shown time and time again, just like 582 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 1: we said about Chador, just like we said about Trey, 583 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 1: just like we said about any quarterback, put him in 584 00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 1: a position to do what he's best at. And all 585 00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:01,879 Speaker 1: he ever has done is that he's done exactly what 586 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 1: he's been asked to do. And he's got a great 587 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:08,200 Speaker 1: offensive mind head coach there that obviously could take different 588 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:10,879 Speaker 1: quarterbacks to the playoffs because he keeps doing it with 589 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 1: the Vikings. And you're giving this kid that's got a 590 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:15,720 Speaker 1: chip on his shoulder after missing last year. But also 591 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 1: remember he's one of the top recruits coming out of 592 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:19,640 Speaker 1: high school and IMG guys, he didn't just. 593 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:20,920 Speaker 3: Fall to Michigan. 594 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 1: He wasn't a walk on, and everybody wanted him coming 595 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 1: out of high school. Sweeny wanted him, Smart wanted them, 596 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:28,440 Speaker 1: Saving wanted everybody wanted. 597 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:30,760 Speaker 3: JJ McCarthy coming out of IMG. Guys. 598 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:33,400 Speaker 1: This is the same kit he is now now he's older, 599 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 1: more mature, had to miss last year rehab back in 600 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,200 Speaker 1: the starter, first possession leads him to a field goal. Drop. 601 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:42,720 Speaker 3: This kid has the tools to be an. 602 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:45,760 Speaker 1: NFL starting quarterback and take his team to the playoffs 603 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 1: time and time again. 604 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:48,120 Speaker 3: But simply also. 605 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 1: Because he's got a really good offensive system, minded coach, 606 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 1: and he's got weapons around him. I'm not gonna blame 607 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 1: him for having weapons. That's what you're supposed to have 608 00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 1: when you're a quarterback. To me, out of these guys, man, 609 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 1: it's easy for me, it's JJ McCarthy. 610 00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 2: Okay, look at I'm a believer in JJ McCarthy. I 611 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 2: said this coming out of college. When you're on a 612 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 2: Jim Harbaugh team, it is a run first offense. The 613 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,880 Speaker 2: quarterback's job is when we need you to make a play, 614 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:18,440 Speaker 2: you need to deliver, and McCarthy did that. So I 615 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 2: don't have any questions about JJ McCarthy's ability to play 616 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 2: in this league. However, I think there is one other 617 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 2: quarterback on this list that I think is going to 618 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 2: get there first. And this may surprise people, but I'm 619 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 2: as much as I like JJ McCarthy, I've been in 620 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:39,760 Speaker 2: love with this guy for a variety of reasons throughout 621 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 2: his collegiate career, and that is Michael Pennock's junior. When 622 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:49,360 Speaker 2: you overcome the multitude of injuries he had at Indiana. 623 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:52,240 Speaker 2: I remember at Indiana, we first got to look at 624 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:53,920 Speaker 2: this guy and we're like, first of all, he's got 625 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,920 Speaker 2: a cannon for an arm, I mean, very Michael Vick. 626 00:29:57,160 --> 00:30:00,880 Speaker 2: Like he's the left hander and he just fire. But 627 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,480 Speaker 2: he was hurt and he was hurt and he was hurt, 628 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 2: and it's like it's it's just not going to happen. 629 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 2: Then he goes to Washington and he puts together two 630 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:12,240 Speaker 2: phenomenal seasons and last year beat bow Knicks head to head, 631 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 2: or two years ago beating bo Nicks headhead twice twice 632 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:19,520 Speaker 2: and got to the championship game. All right, I look 633 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 2: at the situation Atlanta and was such a weird deal 634 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 2: with Kirk Cousins. Why would you sign Kirk Cousins to 635 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:27,200 Speaker 2: a deal in the draft Michael Pennick Junior, that's in 636 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,720 Speaker 2: the rear view. The bottom line, Michael Pennix Junior is 637 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:32,880 Speaker 2: going to be the quarterback of the Atlanta Falcons and 638 00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:36,560 Speaker 2: they also play in a weaker division. This way, this 639 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:40,400 Speaker 2: may be what I think could be the separation because 640 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 2: right now as it stands, JJ McCarthy is in a 641 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 2: much more competitive division than Michael Pennix Junior is. I 642 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 2: think once Michael Penix Junior hits the ground running. We 643 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:55,200 Speaker 2: saw some signs of it at the end of last season. 644 00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 2: I think this guy's going to skyrocket. 645 00:30:58,400 --> 00:30:59,200 Speaker 1: I really do. 646 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 2: I mean, this guy has overcome so much adversity to 647 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:04,240 Speaker 2: get to where he is right now. 648 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:05,280 Speaker 3: If you had said. 649 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 2: When he limped off from Indiana to go to Washington, 650 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:09,720 Speaker 2: this guy would be a top ten pick in the 651 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,880 Speaker 2: NFL draft. You're like ability, yeah, but I mean can't 652 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 2: stay on the field. He proved he can do it. 653 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 2: I'm just I'm gonna roll the dice on this one 654 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:21,920 Speaker 2: and I'm gonna say Michael Pennix Junior is going to 655 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:24,360 Speaker 2: be the next of these four quarterbacks. Caleb Williams again. 656 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:27,840 Speaker 2: The bad situation right now with the Bears. I love 657 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:30,280 Speaker 2: Mike Vrabel. He's going to get things right in New England, 658 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:32,320 Speaker 2: but they got a ways to go. He saw Drake May. 659 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:35,440 Speaker 2: Did you see this game yesterday? So Drake May through, 660 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 2: So you know, he didn't play a lot, but he 661 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 2: made a really bad decision and he fumbled and Vrabel 662 00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:48,959 Speaker 2: was asked about it and then he called him out. Yeah, 663 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 2: and he says, we can't have that. No, no, you 664 00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:57,320 Speaker 2: can't do that. And Rabel is a no nonsense guy 665 00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:00,400 Speaker 2: and he's not going to it's a perfect They should 666 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:02,680 Speaker 2: have hired him a year ago, but anyway, they hired 667 00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:06,520 Speaker 2: him now, and I think he's that's the right guy. 668 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:07,000 Speaker 4: You know. 669 00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:10,120 Speaker 2: McDaniels obviously knows what he's doing as an offensive coordinator. 670 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:12,480 Speaker 1: So I like what they're doing in New England. But yeah, 671 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:15,680 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with Michael Penick's junior. I tell you 672 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 1: this man, great minds, thinking light because he was the 673 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:19,760 Speaker 1: second one I had. Yeah, I like him. I like 674 00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 1: him as much as you do. The National Championship Game, 675 00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 1: you would have been you went against a bunch of 676 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,000 Speaker 1: nfls he did. He did that. There were much better 677 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,880 Speaker 1: team Michigan was on a mission that Washington was gonna 678 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:32,320 Speaker 1: be able to do nothing that night. And those other receivers, 679 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:34,520 Speaker 1: not against that defense, not against Will Johnson, by the way, 680 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:36,560 Speaker 1: who is locking down all. 681 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 3: The receivers in Cardinals camp. 682 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:41,000 Speaker 1: From all the report, he is locked and that includes Maserati, 683 00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:42,640 Speaker 1: Marv locking guys. 684 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 3: Down and Cardinals camp. 685 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:46,480 Speaker 1: And and Penix just wasn't. He didn't have enough horses to 686 00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:49,720 Speaker 1: win that race, But the reasons why for me, for 687 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:52,680 Speaker 1: JJ would be the reasons why. Also, I think Pennix 688 00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:55,480 Speaker 1: would be one B from me. You got Bijeon who 689 00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:57,560 Speaker 1: you could turn a hand into. You're throwing it, Drake, 690 00:32:57,600 --> 00:32:59,760 Speaker 1: You're throwing the pits like he's got some weapons. He's 691 00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:02,840 Speaker 1: got Morris as a coach there, who's a great defensive mind, 692 00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:05,320 Speaker 1: the guy that defense is really good in Atlanta. But 693 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:08,040 Speaker 1: the only pushback I'll give you is, I think this 694 00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:10,719 Speaker 1: division ends up being better than people think it is. 695 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:11,520 Speaker 3: I really do. 696 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:14,520 Speaker 1: I think Bryce Young now, the line looked terrible against 697 00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:16,760 Speaker 1: Cleveland last night, and they're gonna have to fix that. 698 00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:17,800 Speaker 1: But I don't think you can do that in when 699 00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:20,480 Speaker 1: you're last year. Pro Football Focus had them thirty second. 700 00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:22,720 Speaker 1: And for people that don't like Pro Football Focus, fine, 701 00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,480 Speaker 1: find whatever publication you want to throw at me, and 702 00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:28,160 Speaker 1: I guarantee you the Panthers' offensive line were no higher 703 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:28,840 Speaker 1: than twenty eighth. 704 00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:30,400 Speaker 3: I guarantee it one hundred percent. 705 00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:32,440 Speaker 1: So if you don't like Pro Football Focus, fine, whatever 706 00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:34,320 Speaker 1: publications you want to give me, show me where they 707 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:36,560 Speaker 1: had the Panthers offensive line. Most people know that they 708 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:38,160 Speaker 1: were bad. I don't know if you can fix that 709 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:42,640 Speaker 1: in one year. But Tampa and Baker Mayfield, I think 710 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:45,040 Speaker 1: they're gonna have something to say in this division. You 711 00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:48,680 Speaker 1: know how division games go, even though last year the 712 00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 1: Ravens just really stormed through the AFC North, who they 713 00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:56,040 Speaker 1: have trouble with both times the Steelers and the Steelers 714 00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:59,440 Speaker 1: weren't good last year. These division games is what's gonna 715 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:04,400 Speaker 1: determine this This NFC South. And I'm with you on Pinnis. 716 00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:05,840 Speaker 1: I like the weapons I gott him and want to 717 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:07,480 Speaker 1: be I think him. I don't believe in Drake may 718 00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:09,840 Speaker 1: I just don't. I don't believe in Caleb Williams. I 719 00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:13,040 Speaker 1: never have. When Caleb Williams was at Oklahoma, I thought 720 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:15,120 Speaker 1: it was cute. It was he can move around, you 721 00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:17,239 Speaker 1: can run, he can make plays, you can improvised. And 722 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:20,279 Speaker 1: then the Mahomes word got thrown out there, which I 723 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:24,000 Speaker 1: hate when we do that. There's only one Patrick Mahomes. 724 00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:26,839 Speaker 1: There's one, and there's nobody else like him. Just because 725 00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:29,560 Speaker 1: someone can move around and have a side arm angle 726 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:32,799 Speaker 1: Brett fav was throwing side angle arms guy passes back 727 00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:34,400 Speaker 1: in the nineties. Guys, you guys, some people need to 728 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:36,520 Speaker 1: go do their research. We've seen this before. But Pat 729 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:38,120 Speaker 1: Mahomes is the guy right now that's doing this. So 730 00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:40,399 Speaker 1: that's the guy we talk about. Bow Knicks proved me wrong. 731 00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:43,560 Speaker 1: Bow Nicks is legit. Sempaygne knows what he's doing. They're 732 00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:45,759 Speaker 1: gonna run the football. They have a great defense there. 733 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:49,040 Speaker 1: I just think that division is just gonna be brutal. 734 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:51,960 Speaker 1: So I'm with you. To me, it's JJ and Pinnix 735 00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:55,000 Speaker 1: and we'll see, you know, which one of these teams 736 00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:57,399 Speaker 1: work out better, like you said, because the division now, 737 00:34:57,520 --> 00:34:59,319 Speaker 1: there are people don't believe in the Packers. I do, 738 00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:00,919 Speaker 1: and there are people we won't believe in the lines 739 00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:02,440 Speaker 1: repeating you know, being good again, I do. 740 00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:05,080 Speaker 3: So I do agree with that that division is tougher. 741 00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:07,960 Speaker 1: But the way I'm hearing people talk right now, preseason wise, 742 00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:09,719 Speaker 1: there are people that are taking those two teams and 743 00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:12,520 Speaker 1: knocking them down, which means the Viking should move up. 744 00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:15,720 Speaker 2: Eighty three draft had three Hall of famers Lway, Marino, 745 00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:20,120 Speaker 2: Jim Kelly. Three other quarterbacks taking the first round had moments. 746 00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:23,760 Speaker 2: Tony Easton had moments he had Patriots, He let Patriots 747 00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:26,759 Speaker 2: a Super Bowl. Ken O'Brien had some moments with the Jets. 748 00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:30,480 Speaker 2: He wasn't awful awful. Todd Blackledge was awful with the Chiefs. 749 00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:33,440 Speaker 2: That was that was not good. He was the second 750 00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:37,640 Speaker 2: quarterback of Marino and Kelly. How many of these guys 751 00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:39,480 Speaker 2: are going to be destined to all time greats? 752 00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:40,040 Speaker 3: We don't know. 753 00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:40,920 Speaker 1: Maybe none of them. 754 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,400 Speaker 2: But two guys got off to a good start. A 755 00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:45,400 Speaker 2: couple more, mate, check the box, all right? Coming up 756 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:49,200 Speaker 2: on the other side, first episode of Hard Knocks in 757 00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:54,920 Speaker 2: the books the Buffalo Bills. Is this finally going to 758 00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:57,879 Speaker 2: be their year? We'll break it down. This is Fox 759 00:35:57,920 --> 00:35:58,760 Speaker 2: Sports Saturday. 760 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:04,880 Speaker 1: Don't listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio. 761 00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:08,920 Speaker 2: Steve Harbin and BJ Husky Fox Sports Saturday. We are 762 00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:15,560 Speaker 2: live from the Fox Sports Radio studios. JJ McCarthy's on 763 00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:19,160 Speaker 2: the short end of the score right now, seven to 764 00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:20,520 Speaker 2: six to the Texans. 765 00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:23,839 Speaker 1: But you're a command he's looking good. He's looking good. 766 00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:26,560 Speaker 1: He's looking good. Man, He's gonna be just fine. There's 767 00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:28,279 Speaker 1: a lot of these guys that are gonna be just 768 00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:31,400 Speaker 1: five right now. JJ McCarthy four seven thirty yards right now, 769 00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:35,399 Speaker 1: as Sam Howe has now taken in former Tar Hill. 770 00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:38,440 Speaker 1: Sam Howe is now taking over. JJ also had to 771 00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:40,439 Speaker 1: scramble for eight yards. So he's a guy who can move. 772 00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:42,600 Speaker 1: We already know that he's got he's got legs, he 773 00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:45,240 Speaker 1: can get out of trouble. They'll run a few RPOs. 774 00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:47,880 Speaker 1: And remember, also to Aaron Jones, he's got a veteran, 775 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:50,560 Speaker 1: nine year veteran running back to be able to help 776 00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:52,719 Speaker 1: him back there pick up like he's not gonna get 777 00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:55,239 Speaker 1: blasted out of nowhere because it's running back. Didn't know 778 00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:58,719 Speaker 1: what the hell to do. He is protected as quarterbacks 779 00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:01,920 Speaker 1: should be. Steve should be protected, and so they can 780 00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:04,000 Speaker 1: do what they do. I just think he's set up nice. 781 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:04,440 Speaker 1: But I'm with you. 782 00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:06,640 Speaker 3: I'm with you on Pennis though I'm not knocking Panicks. 783 00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:08,600 Speaker 1: But these other guys, Nick, we already know Dan's we 784 00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:11,319 Speaker 1: are no but May and Caleb, I've never believed in 785 00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:11,880 Speaker 1: neither one of them. 786 00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:15,160 Speaker 2: Well, one guy that definitely has arrived is Josh Allen. 787 00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:18,239 Speaker 2: Josh Allen obviously, I mean, right now, you've got four 788 00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:23,600 Speaker 2: quarterbacks that are clearly above everybody else. You got Mahomes right, 789 00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:26,799 Speaker 2: you got Josh Allen, got Lamar Jackson, you got Joe 790 00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:27,399 Speaker 2: Burrow right. 791 00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:29,760 Speaker 3: So those four guys are at the top. 792 00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:31,799 Speaker 2: That's the top on the top four quarters and then 793 00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:34,000 Speaker 2: and then you know, then you get the mix, but 794 00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:37,520 Speaker 2: that those guys have separated themselves right now from the 795 00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:38,839 Speaker 2: rest of the quarterbacks in the league. 796 00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:39,080 Speaker 1: Yeah. 797 00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:42,239 Speaker 2: So I'm watching the first episode of Hard Knocks. I 798 00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:45,160 Speaker 2: really haven't watched a lot of Hard Knocks in recent years, 799 00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:47,959 Speaker 2: but my son is a huge fan, so we sat 800 00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:51,319 Speaker 2: down and watched the first episode. Very predictably, it's the 801 00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:55,920 Speaker 2: Buffalo Bills, right, I guess they're They're an interesting team 802 00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:59,919 Speaker 2: because you keep asking yourself year after year after year, 803 00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:03,080 Speaker 2: with one of the best quarterbacks in the league, is 804 00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:06,440 Speaker 2: this finally gonna be here? Can they get past the Chiefs? Like, 805 00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:10,239 Speaker 2: you know, Josh Allen actually has a winning record in 806 00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:13,439 Speaker 2: the postseason. It's not like Lamar Jackson who's three and five. 807 00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:16,760 Speaker 2: He's seven and six, so he's won more postseason games 808 00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:19,880 Speaker 2: than he lost. He just can't beat the Chiefs, and 809 00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:25,359 Speaker 2: they were again last year an opportunity wasted. So I'm 810 00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:29,360 Speaker 2: watching this thing and they just the whole first episode, 811 00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:35,200 Speaker 2: whether they were talking to McDermott or whoever they were 812 00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:37,600 Speaker 2: talking to, all they were talking about was how great 813 00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:40,440 Speaker 2: Josh Allen is. Like he is the greatest. He is 814 00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:41,640 Speaker 2: the greatest of all time. 815 00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:43,759 Speaker 1: You know, he was the MVP last year. 816 00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:46,240 Speaker 2: They showed, you know when he was the surprise selection 817 00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:48,399 Speaker 2: over Lamar Jackson to get MVP. 818 00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:53,799 Speaker 7: And the whole show first episode that was it. It was 819 00:38:53,880 --> 00:39:00,319 Speaker 7: just one player, coach, media person. Josh Allen's the greatest, okay, 820 00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:02,720 Speaker 7: And you know, there's nothing this guy does wrong. 821 00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:05,120 Speaker 1: He got married, obviously he's by the way. 822 00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:10,160 Speaker 2: He got married, as you know, to the Hailey Steinfeld girl, 823 00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:14,560 Speaker 2: the actress. And she was a classmate of my oldest 824 00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:16,520 Speaker 2: son in middle school. 825 00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:17,160 Speaker 1: Oh wow. 826 00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:19,560 Speaker 2: They literally sat next to each other. Oh and then 827 00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:21,759 Speaker 2: she did True Grid and became a star and everything else. 828 00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:22,960 Speaker 1: Anyway, who she is? 829 00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:25,799 Speaker 2: So okay, So everything's good on the personal life. He's 830 00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:28,600 Speaker 2: making zillions of dollars. But can he get over the hump? 831 00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:30,920 Speaker 2: What is your gut right now? I mean, I have 832 00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:33,439 Speaker 2: said and I'm going to stay with this as far 833 00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:36,640 Speaker 2: as the Chiefs are concerned, the Chiefs are due for 834 00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:39,239 Speaker 2: a hiccup, and I feel like this is the year 835 00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:40,960 Speaker 2: it's going to happen. This is going to be the 836 00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:43,040 Speaker 2: hiccup year. I don't know if they're going to recover 837 00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:46,640 Speaker 2: from that. Hiccup, but I feel the hiccup is coming. 838 00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:50,680 Speaker 2: The Broncos are definitely on their way. Chargers potentially as 839 00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:53,480 Speaker 2: long as they don't lose any more offensive linemen are 840 00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:54,080 Speaker 2: on their way. 841 00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:57,480 Speaker 1: I think the Raiders are going to be better. They're 842 00:39:57,480 --> 00:39:59,959 Speaker 1: maybe not a playoff caliberty, They're going to be better 843 00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,279 Speaker 1: with Pete Carroll and Ginosmith than they were last year. 844 00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:05,120 Speaker 2: So I think the Chiefs take a step back, which 845 00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:08,200 Speaker 2: creates at least the illusion. 846 00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:10,040 Speaker 1: Of an opening in the AFC. 847 00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:13,920 Speaker 2: If you take the Chiefs out of the mix, FEJ, 848 00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:19,160 Speaker 2: which team right now do you think is the most 849 00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:23,080 Speaker 2: likely other than the Chiefs to represent the AFC in 850 00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:23,799 Speaker 2: the Super Bowl? 851 00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:28,000 Speaker 3: Baltimore. Baltimore's loaded. Baltimore's loaded this year. 852 00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:29,600 Speaker 1: Remember they had some injuries last year, and they got 853 00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:32,319 Speaker 1: those guys back, and they got some young pieces of 854 00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:35,239 Speaker 1: young players that were shining last year. And now you 855 00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:37,919 Speaker 1: can see in the word new camp is these kids 856 00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:40,680 Speaker 1: have arrived. And Lamar Jackson got robbed of his third MVP. 857 00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:43,640 Speaker 1: More passing yards, more touchdowns, and less interceptions than Josh. 858 00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:47,239 Speaker 2: The only arguments he did have Derrick Henry, and you 859 00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:49,719 Speaker 2: could make the argument maybe Henry was more valuable than 860 00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:51,040 Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson last year. 861 00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:54,880 Speaker 1: We can't all right here? This is You're listening to 862 00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:56,839 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio. 863 00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:00,520 Speaker 2: I rolling along here on another busy sports today, Fox 864 00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:05,080 Speaker 2: Sports Saturday. We are broadcasting live from the Fox Sports 865 00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:10,439 Speaker 2: Radio studios. Now, I've been doing sports talk radio as 866 00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:14,600 Speaker 2: long or longer than just about everyone, and I pride 867 00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:19,520 Speaker 2: myself and the ability to articulate my thoughts. I never 868 00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:24,000 Speaker 2: really get flustered at all, do you. But as we 869 00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:26,680 Speaker 2: are going to the top of the hour and you 870 00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:32,360 Speaker 2: basically dismissed the Buffalo Bills while touting the Baltimore Ravens, 871 00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:35,560 Speaker 2: I suddenly ran out of time and this is how 872 00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:36,160 Speaker 2: we got. 873 00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:38,600 Speaker 1: To the top of the hour. We can't all right here. 874 00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:42,279 Speaker 2: This is Fox Swarts Saturday. To hear that so very 875 00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:49,520 Speaker 2: valley there, I did not can this is Fox Swart Saturday. 876 00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:53,280 Speaker 2: I mean, that is really interesting, the combination of words 877 00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:55,480 Speaker 2: that came out of my mouth in half a second. 878 00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:59,520 Speaker 2: But again, it's it's part of working with you, because 879 00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:02,160 Speaker 2: there are things that we are in tune with and 880 00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:03,960 Speaker 2: there are other things that were not. 881 00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:07,400 Speaker 1: And I'm not quite sure. 882 00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:11,440 Speaker 2: I mean, first of all, you brought up the idea 883 00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:14,480 Speaker 2: of Lamar Jackson me and robbed at the MVP he was, 884 00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:17,040 Speaker 2: and you look at his stats and he had the 885 00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:20,759 Speaker 2: best stats of any quarterback in the league. However, he 886 00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:23,319 Speaker 2: also had one of the two best running backs in 887 00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:26,280 Speaker 2: the league, and you could make an argument that Derrick 888 00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:30,080 Speaker 2: Henry was every bit as valuable to that Ravens offense 889 00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:34,440 Speaker 2: as was Lamar Jackson last year, as opposed to Josh Allen, 890 00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:39,440 Speaker 2: who obviously doesn't have a Derrick Henry in the backfield. 891 00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:43,200 Speaker 2: Why are you dismissing We're not the value of Derrick 892 00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:45,840 Speaker 2: Henry and what he brought to the Ravens offensive. 893 00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:49,400 Speaker 1: I'm not devaluing it. We're not gonna make that the 894 00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:52,839 Speaker 1: reason why Lamar Jackson had a third MVP season when 895 00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:56,479 Speaker 1: he already won two MVPs without Derek Henry. Why Dereck 896 00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:59,319 Speaker 1: Henry was rushing for a gajillion yards four team that 897 00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:02,400 Speaker 1: was winning six since seven games. My man, Lamar Jackson 898 00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:06,040 Speaker 1: was getting to AFC Championship games and winning MVPs without 899 00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:06,960 Speaker 1: Derrick Henry. 900 00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:09,680 Speaker 3: And Dereck Henry did run for nineteen hundred yards last. 901 00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:11,600 Speaker 1: Year, which you're supposed to do if you got a 902 00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:14,719 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson at quarterback and they're running RPO and you 903 00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:16,960 Speaker 1: got Zay my man Jay Flowers, who's the next Tyreek 904 00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:18,640 Speaker 1: Kill of this league? And I said that, I'm so 905 00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:20,520 Speaker 1: glad Ian is producing the show today because a lot 906 00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:21,960 Speaker 1: of stuff that I have said. 907 00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:23,200 Speaker 3: Over the years on Martin and vj. 908 00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:26,080 Speaker 1: Ian has been witnessed to some of these things that 909 00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:28,880 Speaker 1: I've been saying about some of these football topics. 910 00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:32,760 Speaker 3: And Josh Allen, his window has been closed. 911 00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:35,839 Speaker 1: I don't get and understand why you people are still 912 00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:38,920 Speaker 1: trying to hold on to the Buffalo Bills. Their best 913 00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:42,200 Speaker 1: shot was the divisional game at Case that they lost 914 00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:45,560 Speaker 1: in overtime. That was their best team, that was their 915 00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:48,720 Speaker 1: best shot. That game got big game game paid. 916 00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:51,920 Speaker 3: He had four touchdown catches that day from Josh Allen that. 917 00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:54,680 Speaker 1: Got that man paid to Carolina when he decided to leave. 918 00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:58,920 Speaker 1: They haven't had a team as good as that team. 919 00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:01,160 Speaker 1: But they're the ones who wanted to kick the ball 920 00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:03,480 Speaker 1: short to Tyreek Hill with the what was the eight 921 00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:06,400 Speaker 1: seconds left. They're the ones that decided to cover Travis 922 00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:10,120 Speaker 1: Kelsey in overtime with a linebacker, which hasn't worked in 923 00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:12,960 Speaker 1: ten years. But you think on this one, playing overtime 924 00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:16,520 Speaker 1: on the road where and guess what, he outplayed Pat 925 00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:20,200 Speaker 1: Mahomes that day. I've always admitted that that was their 926 00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:23,600 Speaker 1: best chance people to win at super Bowl. 927 00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:26,600 Speaker 3: Will they still get to the playoffs, yes, Will. 928 00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:29,040 Speaker 1: They still get to divisional games and may become a 929 00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:32,719 Speaker 1: couple of more conference ships, yes, But that team they 930 00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:39,160 Speaker 1: had that day, that was the day their championship window closed. People, 931 00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:40,240 Speaker 1: it didn't. 932 00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:41,600 Speaker 3: They're not getting to. 933 00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:42,239 Speaker 1: A super Bowl. 934 00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:45,839 Speaker 2: First of all, the division they're playing in this year, 935 00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:49,839 Speaker 2: the AFC East Week Week week by seasons in they 936 00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:52,160 Speaker 2: could win that division by seven games. 937 00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:54,000 Speaker 3: I know you're hyped on the Dolphins. 938 00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:54,480 Speaker 1: I'm not. 939 00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:56,960 Speaker 2: Of course, are the Jets of the Jets the Patriots 940 00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:59,840 Speaker 2: of the Patriots. They're awful, So you you they're go 941 00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:02,719 Speaker 2: to get home field advantage. The road to the super 942 00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:04,799 Speaker 2: Bowl is going to go through Buffalo, and that's why 943 00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:06,759 Speaker 2: they're gonna get to the super Bowl. Here's what I'm 944 00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:09,160 Speaker 2: true still trying to figure out about Lamar Jay. 945 00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:09,880 Speaker 1: They've had home. 946 00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:11,640 Speaker 3: Field advantage and couldn't get to the super Bowl. 947 00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:17,360 Speaker 2: Steve but Lamar Jackson regular season seventy and twenty four 948 00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:19,680 Speaker 2: with a career passer rating of one to oh two 949 00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:22,600 Speaker 2: in the playoffs, He's three and five of the career 950 00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:27,080 Speaker 2: passer rating of eighty four point six. The discrepancy between 951 00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:34,080 Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson regular season and postseason is dramatic. In fact, 952 00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:38,480 Speaker 2: there are very few quarterbacks who've been afforded multiple MVPs 953 00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:43,600 Speaker 2: where the drop off in terms of passing performance has 954 00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:49,280 Speaker 2: dropped so dramatically as that of Lamar Jackson in the postseason. 955 00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:52,240 Speaker 1: What is the end result for both of these quarterbacks. 956 00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:54,400 Speaker 1: We can sit here and throw out all these numbers 957 00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:56,520 Speaker 1: in all these comparison, but at the end of the day, 958 00:45:57,120 --> 00:45:59,680 Speaker 1: neither one of them have gotten to a Super Bowl. 959 00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:02,799 Speaker 1: I think think this Ravens team is better than this 960 00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:05,160 Speaker 1: Bills team that we're gonna see on the field for 961 00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:08,400 Speaker 1: seventeen games this year. You still have Lamar Jackson and 962 00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:11,160 Speaker 1: hello the guy you just named and talked about. They 963 00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:14,040 Speaker 1: still have Derrick Henry, and they have their injured running 964 00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:16,279 Speaker 1: backs from back year back. Zave Flowers is gonna take 965 00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:18,760 Speaker 1: off this year and he bringing Now. I'm not expecting 966 00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:21,239 Speaker 1: a whole bunch from DeAndre Hopkins. I think he's more 967 00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:23,400 Speaker 1: for like November December. I don't expect much out of 968 00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:25,440 Speaker 1: him for September and October. Matter of fact, if I 969 00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:27,960 Speaker 1: were the Ravens, I'd hold him back a little bit 970 00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:30,080 Speaker 1: the first eight or nine weeks so he can, you know, 971 00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:32,960 Speaker 1: so you can have that longevity. Football beats up old guys, right, 972 00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:35,440 Speaker 1: so you want him deeper into the year. But this 973 00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:38,879 Speaker 1: Baltimore team and this defense, guys, this defense is going 974 00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:42,560 Speaker 1: to be mons man, This defense is gonna be monstrous 975 00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:43,920 Speaker 1: this year. All right, I'm gonna get more. 976 00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:46,720 Speaker 2: I just gave you the comparison of the passing stats 977 00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:50,560 Speaker 2: regular season postseason for Lamar Jackson Josh Allen, who has 978 00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:53,560 Speaker 2: a seven and six postseason record seventy six and thirty 979 00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:57,040 Speaker 2: four during the regular season. His regular season passer rating 980 00:46:57,160 --> 00:47:00,520 Speaker 2: is ninety three point four. His postseason is one oh 981 00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:04,640 Speaker 2: one point seven. He's a better quarterback in the postseason 982 00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:06,480 Speaker 2: than he is in the postseason. 983 00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:07,040 Speaker 3: Think about this. 984 00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:10,480 Speaker 2: He's had thirteen starts, twenty five touchdowns, four picks. You 985 00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:14,600 Speaker 2: just mentioned he outplayed Patrick mah did, Okay, so he is. 986 00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:19,239 Speaker 2: He has shown the ability to play at a much 987 00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:23,280 Speaker 2: higher level in the postseason so far than Lamar Jackson. 988 00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:24,040 Speaker 1: And that's the. 989 00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:28,799 Speaker 2: Difference between Because quarterbacks are ultimately responsible to get your 990 00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:30,160 Speaker 2: team to the big game. 991 00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:32,360 Speaker 3: Jalen Hurts has proven himself. 992 00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:33,280 Speaker 1: He's done it twice. 993 00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:36,480 Speaker 2: Right, He's proven himself that he is a quarterback and 994 00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:39,160 Speaker 2: could come up and deliver and get his team into 995 00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:39,799 Speaker 2: the big game. 996 00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:42,520 Speaker 3: That's what I'm looking at. That's when I'm judging quarterbacks. 997 00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:44,840 Speaker 2: This is not to say that Lamar Jackson's got a 998 00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:47,320 Speaker 2: He's not going to get a spot in Canada Ohio. 999 00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:47,840 Speaker 1: Yeah he is. 1000 00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:51,040 Speaker 2: Because everyone that's won multiple MVPs has gotten to the 1001 00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:53,759 Speaker 2: Hall of Fame. He is that level of quarterback. But 1002 00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:57,319 Speaker 2: we're not talking about that. We're talking about getting the 1003 00:47:57,360 --> 00:47:59,960 Speaker 2: team to the Super Bowl. And based on his post 1004 00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:05,040 Speaker 2: season performance to date, Josh Allen has shown that he 1005 00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:08,440 Speaker 2: has a much better opportunity to get to the postseason 1006 00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:11,400 Speaker 2: right now than Lamar Jackson the Ravens. 1007 00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:13,799 Speaker 3: I know it's early, and this was my pick last year. 1008 00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:15,799 Speaker 1: As matter of fact, shout out to my Man Ian 1009 00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:18,080 Speaker 1: and here doing the producer again because Ian and I 1010 00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:19,839 Speaker 1: were the only two talent here. You know, we put 1011 00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:21,920 Speaker 1: the sheet outside and everybody picks we're the only two 1012 00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:23,960 Speaker 1: guys and all the Fox Sports ready who picked the 1013 00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:26,680 Speaker 1: Eagles in August last year to win the Super Bowl 1014 00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:29,720 Speaker 1: My pick was Ravens and Eagles, and I got pretty 1015 00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:33,200 Speaker 1: damn close. I might lean that way again this year. 1016 00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:36,720 Speaker 1: I am gonna say right now, I'll put the Ravens 1017 00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:40,359 Speaker 1: in the AFC Championship Game for sure. Right now as 1018 00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:43,239 Speaker 1: we sit here on August the ninth, they're going to 1019 00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:46,480 Speaker 1: the AFC Championship Game this year. This team is, this 1020 00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:49,920 Speaker 1: team is really, really really good. They have a really 1021 00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:52,759 Speaker 1: really good coaching staff. Their special teams is gonna be 1022 00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:55,440 Speaker 1: better this year. They're healthy this year. The defense, all 1023 00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:58,279 Speaker 1: the younger guys that were spot, you know, star play 1024 00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:01,360 Speaker 1: last year are now more season and more veteran wise 1025 00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:04,239 Speaker 1: and more. Then you got guys like Derrick Henry who's 1026 00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:07,040 Speaker 1: a VET, A Lamar Jackson who's a VET. Kyle Hamilton 1027 00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:10,520 Speaker 1: is gonna just shut this secondary down. Good luck trying 1028 00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:13,319 Speaker 1: to throw the ball on Baltimore this year. And then 1029 00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:15,560 Speaker 1: you have some guys on the ends and on the 1030 00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:17,640 Speaker 1: defensive line that are be back from injury this year 1031 00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:20,480 Speaker 1: also too, that are going to produce. When I look 1032 00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:23,319 Speaker 1: at Buffalo, first of all, I think, and I know 1033 00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:25,040 Speaker 1: he's probably gonna surprised to hear me say this, I 1034 00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:26,880 Speaker 1: think the Jets will be better than people think they 1035 00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:28,480 Speaker 1: will because I believe in Aaron Glenn. 1036 00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:30,560 Speaker 3: I believe in Aaron Glenn. They still got a defense. 1037 00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:32,800 Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen. I don't know about the quarterback position, 1038 00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:34,680 Speaker 1: but you know how I feel about Justin Fils, right, 1039 00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:37,080 Speaker 1: Justin Fils is my guy. I've always spoke highly about 1040 00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:38,879 Speaker 1: Justin Filds, and he's there now. I know he played 1041 00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:41,560 Speaker 1: for them by mass Jets, but Justin Phills is still 1042 00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:43,040 Speaker 1: my guy just because he's there. To me, I don't 1043 00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:44,640 Speaker 1: like him anymore. I just don't hope he wins a 1044 00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:46,440 Speaker 1: whole line, and definitely don't hope he beats my Dolphins. 1045 00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:51,319 Speaker 1: But I think that the AFC is more loaded this 1046 00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:54,120 Speaker 1: year than it's been in the last decade. You look 1047 00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:57,040 Speaker 1: at the Wes alone. We can't pick a team. And 1048 00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:58,880 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you something. I watched The Raiders the 1049 00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:01,439 Speaker 1: other night. Raiders the other night, by. 1050 00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:04,280 Speaker 2: The way to hear about Gino Smith and Max crossby 1051 00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:05,960 Speaker 2: getting into the Seattle fans. 1052 00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:06,279 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1053 00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:11,640 Speaker 1: But Pete Carroll, I'm giving you prose because you've been 1054 00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:15,880 Speaker 1: on this. We talk about energy, we talk about body language. 1055 00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:21,680 Speaker 1: He has injected himself. Yes, seventy creditability much of it, 1056 00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:25,120 Speaker 1: and it and you you have no choice but to 1057 00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:29,279 Speaker 1: just engulf in it. And they do have a quarterback that, 1058 00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:32,160 Speaker 1: once again, he just does what you ask him. 1059 00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:34,799 Speaker 2: To do and he throws the ball accurately. And I 1060 00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:36,799 Speaker 2: never thought Gino Smith was going to be this type 1061 00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:39,839 Speaker 2: of quarterback. Here, can I get back to the Ravens. 1062 00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:39,959 Speaker 1: For a moment. 1063 00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:45,120 Speaker 2: Sure, Here's what is unexplained to me about John Harbaugh 1064 00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:49,239 Speaker 2: as a head coach. With Joe Flacco as his quarterback, 1065 00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:52,520 Speaker 2: he was ten and five in the postseason. With Lamar 1066 00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:56,239 Speaker 2: Jackson at quarterback, he's three and five. So why was 1067 00:50:56,280 --> 00:51:00,200 Speaker 2: he so successful? You realize that in every year the 1068 00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:04,239 Speaker 2: six years that he had Joe Flacco as his quarterback, 1069 00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:07,440 Speaker 2: they won at least one game. All six years, they 1070 00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:10,920 Speaker 2: never had a won and done so. Ten and five 1071 00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:15,840 Speaker 2: with Joe Flacco, whose numbers don't even sniff Lamar Jackson's 1072 00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:19,200 Speaker 2: regular season numbers, but ten and five in the postseason 1073 00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:24,319 Speaker 2: with Joe Flacco. Three and five in the postseason with 1074 00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:25,560 Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson. 1075 00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:26,720 Speaker 3: Different teams, different teams. 1076 00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:29,479 Speaker 1: That team also with flame coach, I know, but you're 1077 00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:32,479 Speaker 1: also talking Torell Suggs. You're talking guys like Ray Lewis 1078 00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:36,080 Speaker 1: and guys like Jacobe Jones. They were different guys there 1079 00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:39,440 Speaker 1: for Flacco than what Lamar. We went back again and 1080 00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:41,920 Speaker 1: if had to rebuild this age also to around Lamar 1081 00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:44,919 Speaker 1: hosting the Chiefs in the AFC Championship Right, the play 1082 00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:48,400 Speaker 1: call was terrible. It was terrible play call. It suddenly 1083 00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:52,160 Speaker 1: was talking about John Harball forgot how to coach. They 1084 00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:54,480 Speaker 1: wanted to And I said this when we came on 1085 00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:57,920 Speaker 1: air to follow at home. I knew at some point 1086 00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:02,040 Speaker 1: the talk would get to these about Oh, Lamar Jackson's 1087 00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:05,520 Speaker 1: gotta be No, Lamar Jackson needs to be who Lamar 1088 00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:08,759 Speaker 1: Jackson is. That game felt like they were trying to 1089 00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:09,600 Speaker 1: prove to the. 1090 00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:11,720 Speaker 3: World that he was better than Mahomes. 1091 00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:13,759 Speaker 1: That he was better than Mahomes and he can throw 1092 00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:18,520 Speaker 1: from the pocket. No, you let him run ballistic, you 1093 00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:22,319 Speaker 1: let him carry it fifteen times if you have to, 1094 00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:25,839 Speaker 1: you solely put it on him that day. I don't 1095 00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:27,880 Speaker 1: have a problem with the coach going to the star 1096 00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:31,600 Speaker 1: guy in the AFC Championship game and saying, no matter 1097 00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:34,560 Speaker 1: what happens, you gotta be the one to go get 1098 00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:37,600 Speaker 1: this one. Today. We've seen Joe Burrow do it We've 1099 00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:40,759 Speaker 1: seen Patrick Mahomes do it. We've seen Tom Brady do it. 1100 00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:43,520 Speaker 1: When the chips are on the table. Yes you got 1101 00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:45,839 Speaker 1: a good receiver, Yes you got a good tight end. 1102 00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:48,760 Speaker 1: Yes you got a good middle linebacker or dominic d lineman. 1103 00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:52,160 Speaker 1: But in the sport of football, when you get to 1104 00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:56,600 Speaker 1: the conference championship game, it's the one game right before 1105 00:52:57,160 --> 00:53:03,239 Speaker 1: the holy grail of the sport that quarterback man gotta go. 1106 00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:06,600 Speaker 1: You gotta go get this one today. I don't care 1107 00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:09,360 Speaker 1: what everybody else does, you go get one. It felt 1108 00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:12,160 Speaker 1: like they wanted to show well we could compete. The 1109 00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:14,520 Speaker 1: game was seventeen fourteen, and what like the Chiefs went 1110 00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:16,879 Speaker 1: in there and threw up a bunch of points and 1111 00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:20,719 Speaker 1: then remember Baltimore fumbles going into the end zone. Let's 1112 00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:22,640 Speaker 1: not act like the Chiefs went in there and just 1113 00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:24,080 Speaker 1: kick their ass up and down the field, because that 1114 00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:27,759 Speaker 1: was not the case. Baltimore's defense shut Pat Mahomes in 1115 00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:30,800 Speaker 1: that offense down. But for some reason, on the offensive 1116 00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:33,520 Speaker 1: side of the ball, they decide we're gonna throw a 1117 00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:36,840 Speaker 1: lot of passes, and we're gonna pass more than we're run. 1118 00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:40,840 Speaker 1: You've led the league in rushing the last twenty four 1119 00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:44,440 Speaker 1: months leading up to that game. The last two years, 1120 00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:48,680 Speaker 1: you are the number one rushing team in the league, 1121 00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:52,160 Speaker 1: and in the conference championship game with the most dangerous 1122 00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:56,120 Speaker 1: quarterback in the league as far as legs go, you 1123 00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:58,480 Speaker 1: decide we're gonna throw more? Are you kidding me? 1124 00:53:58,680 --> 00:53:58,960 Speaker 4: It was? 1125 00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:02,560 Speaker 3: I'm not putting that on Lar. I'm not putting come again. 1126 00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:05,520 Speaker 2: Well they no, but I'm putting in on John Harbaugh. Okay, 1127 00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:07,000 Speaker 2: I'm putting it on John Harball. 1128 00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:07,279 Speaker 3: All right. 1129 00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:08,160 Speaker 1: So the guy I was. 1130 00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:10,560 Speaker 2: Able to win ten postseason games with a guy like 1131 00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:16,879 Speaker 2: Joe Flacco cannot win with Lamar Jacksons running backs. All 1132 00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:18,680 Speaker 2: I know is the guy showed up in the postseason. 1133 00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:22,279 Speaker 2: He never named a Pro Bowl. Zero, forget All Pro. 1134 00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:25,600 Speaker 2: He never even got to a single Pro Bowl. Uncle 1135 00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:28,200 Speaker 2: Uncle Flacco with a ten and five postseason record with 1136 00:54:28,239 --> 00:54:30,400 Speaker 2: the Ravens. All right, coming up on the other side, 1137 00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:34,720 Speaker 2: can one player change the dynamic of a team? Well, 1138 00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:37,480 Speaker 2: we've talked many examples of guys that can, you know, 1139 00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:39,560 Speaker 2: come in and bring a team success. 1140 00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:41,560 Speaker 1: But I'm going to tell you about a player. 1141 00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:45,520 Speaker 2: That ruined a franchise in the NFL and you probably 1142 00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:48,640 Speaker 2: have forgotten about him, But we'll explain why he deserves 1143 00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:53,200 Speaker 2: to be remembered for ruining a franchise. This is Fox 1144 00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:59,600 Speaker 2: Sports Saturday, Harbin Husky, Fox Sports Saturday, coming live from 1145 00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:03,280 Speaker 2: the Fox Sports Radio studios for the best pregame show 1146 00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:06,880 Speaker 2: every weekend. Be sure to tune into Fox Sports Radio's Countdown, 1147 00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:10,759 Speaker 2: presented by bet MGM every Saturday and Sunday morning nine 1148 00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:14,360 Speaker 2: am to noon Eastern six to nine am Pacific, counting 1149 00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:17,800 Speaker 2: down all the biggest games turn in a Countdown presented 1150 00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:20,839 Speaker 2: by bet MGM every Saturday and Sunday morning right here 1151 00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:22,920 Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio. 1152 00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:24,600 Speaker 1: And the iHeartRadio app. 1153 00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:27,600 Speaker 2: In this that show, like all the other shows here 1154 00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:30,240 Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio, are going to go next level 1155 00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:32,239 Speaker 2: in just a few weeks as we get ready for 1156 00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:36,560 Speaker 2: the start of the NFL season. Wait, all right, So 1157 00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:41,320 Speaker 2: we've talked a lot about players that can turn around 1158 00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:46,839 Speaker 2: the fortunes good or bad for any kind of sports franchise, 1159 00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:50,040 Speaker 2: but especially in the National Football League. But I don't 1160 00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:52,640 Speaker 2: think there's ever been, at least in the last decade 1161 00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:56,719 Speaker 2: plus one player would do more damage to a franchise 1162 00:55:57,560 --> 00:55:59,799 Speaker 2: than this play. I'm so interested to see who you're 1163 00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:05,760 Speaker 2: to the player I am going to say, is Andrew 1164 00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:11,600 Speaker 2: Luck Andrew Luck what destroyed the Indianapolis Colts If you 1165 00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:15,520 Speaker 2: don't know the story about Andrew Luck. So after Peyton 1166 00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:19,759 Speaker 2: Manning's what appear to be career ending neck injury, they 1167 00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:23,400 Speaker 2: bottomed out after being obviously a perennial playoff team with 1168 00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:25,799 Speaker 2: Peyton Manning, they ended up with the number one pick 1169 00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:29,319 Speaker 2: in the draft. They took Andrew Luck, who had the 1170 00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:32,880 Speaker 2: most type of any quarterback since probably Peyton Manning in 1171 00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:35,640 Speaker 2: terms of his ability to be ready day one, and 1172 00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:39,000 Speaker 2: guess what, he was ready day one. They immediately jumped 1173 00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:42,280 Speaker 2: back into the playoffs, and then after missing the twenty 1174 00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:47,280 Speaker 2: seventeen season, Andrew Luck returned better than ever in twenty eighteen, 1175 00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:50,719 Speaker 2: started all sixteen games, led the Colts right back into 1176 00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:54,080 Speaker 2: the playoffs. Twenty nine years old, He's got years ahead 1177 00:56:54,120 --> 00:57:01,359 Speaker 2: of him. And Andrew Luck retired since then. Here's the 1178 00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:04,399 Speaker 2: history of the Indianapolis Colts. Quarterback so Lux last year 1179 00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:08,160 Speaker 2: started every game in twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen starting quarterback 1180 00:57:08,239 --> 00:57:13,240 Speaker 2: Jacoby Brissett twenty twenty, Philip Rivers twenty twenty one, Carson 1181 00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:17,800 Speaker 2: Wentz twenty twenty two, Matt Ryan twenty twenty three, used 1182 00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:22,840 Speaker 2: the fourth overall picking Anthony Richardson. Gardner Minshew starts thirteen games. 1183 00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:25,520 Speaker 2: They put Richardson in last year, and who takes over 1184 00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:28,680 Speaker 2: Joe Flacco at the end, and now Richardson is hurt 1185 00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:31,440 Speaker 2: again and looks like it's going to be Daniel Jones. 1186 00:57:31,600 --> 00:57:34,480 Speaker 2: So add up the quarterbacks. I also can throw in 1187 00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:38,200 Speaker 2: names like Brian Hoyer started a game, Sam Ellener Bros. 1188 00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:42,880 Speaker 2: Start Nick Foles. That's won two, three, four, five, six, seven, 1189 00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:47,640 Speaker 2: eight nine. Ten Quarterbacks Philip Rivers I said, Phillohobers twenty twenty, 1190 00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:49,960 Speaker 2: Rivers in twenty, Wentz in twenty one. 1191 00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:51,760 Speaker 3: By the way, Bobo's Dota. 1192 00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:55,920 Speaker 2: So this team has been in complete disarray with their quarterback. 1193 00:57:56,520 --> 00:57:59,080 Speaker 2: Remember they had Rivers per year he retires, They had 1194 00:57:59,080 --> 00:57:59,960 Speaker 2: Wentz for a year. 1195 00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:03,680 Speaker 1: It didn't work. They bringing Matt Ryan right, it did 1196 00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:05,120 Speaker 1: not work the ice you know. 1197 00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:07,240 Speaker 2: Then they have the fourth overall pick. They use it 1198 00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:09,880 Speaker 2: on Anthony Richardson. They were forced to use Gardner Minshew 1199 00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:12,360 Speaker 2: last year. They had a dust off Joe Flacco to 1200 00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:15,240 Speaker 2: bring him back, and now they bring in Daniel Jones. 1201 00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:20,400 Speaker 2: Andrew Lucke should still be playing in the NFL. 1202 00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:23,560 Speaker 1: I'm not with this should be playing in the NFL. 1203 00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:25,439 Speaker 1: Think about this. You know what the year this would 1204 00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:27,560 Speaker 1: be for him. This would be year fourteen in his 1205 00:58:27,680 --> 00:58:31,120 Speaker 1: NFL career. He would still be an elite quarterback in 1206 00:58:31,160 --> 00:58:34,000 Speaker 1: this league. But Andrew Leck's decision to hang it up. 1207 00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:36,760 Speaker 1: Now he's the general manager of the Stanford football team. 1208 00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:41,360 Speaker 1: Destroy the Annapolis Colts because once again they are at 1209 00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:46,000 Speaker 1: square one with their quarterback situation, and they're turning to, 1210 00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:50,760 Speaker 1: of all people, Daniel Jones to save the day. I 1211 00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:52,360 Speaker 1: told you the other I told you the other night. 1212 00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:54,720 Speaker 1: I tweeted, I'm watching this preseason game, and I said, 1213 00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:59,560 Speaker 1: you know how bad teams are picking quarterbacks. The Colts 1214 00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:03,200 Speaker 1: have two top five picks in the last seven eight 1215 00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:07,240 Speaker 1: years on their roster right now, and they both still suck. 1216 00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:10,040 Speaker 1: They neither one of these guys are good. And that's 1217 00:59:10,040 --> 00:59:12,200 Speaker 1: the reason why they're gonna be a six or seven 1218 00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:15,760 Speaker 1: win team. They don't have a quarterback. Now, I think 1219 00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:19,960 Speaker 1: it's hilarious that you're blaming you love this is one 1220 00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:22,720 Speaker 1: of your wildest takes. It's not a wild take, one 1221 00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:23,640 Speaker 1: of your wild. 1222 00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:25,080 Speaker 3: Never recovered from this guy. 1223 00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:28,200 Speaker 1: Why about they blaming Andrew for that injury? 1224 00:59:28,280 --> 00:59:30,200 Speaker 3: Oh No, no, no, no, no, no. 1225 00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:33,280 Speaker 2: That was he came back from injury, was healthy the 1226 00:59:33,440 --> 00:59:35,680 Speaker 2: entire season, got in the playoffs, won a playoff game 1227 00:59:35,720 --> 00:59:38,920 Speaker 2: in twenty eighteen. He had decided this. Andrew Luck was 1228 00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:41,480 Speaker 2: always a different guy, right, He was, you know, cerebral, 1229 00:59:41,600 --> 00:59:43,520 Speaker 2: right right, and he and he and he sort of 1230 00:59:43,600 --> 00:59:46,160 Speaker 2: indicated that he was not gonna be one of those 1231 00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:48,200 Speaker 2: guys who was going to play forever, like a Tom 1232 00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:51,400 Speaker 2: Brady or Aaron Rodgers or pretty much every other quarterback 1233 00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:54,400 Speaker 2: in the history of the NFL that had ability. No, no, no, 1234 00:59:54,520 --> 00:59:58,280 Speaker 2: Andrew Luck at twenty nine, after the Colts got him 1235 00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:01,360 Speaker 2: back and running so he could started an entire season, 1236 01:00:01,720 --> 01:00:04,680 Speaker 2: looked as good as ever, and then he walks away 1237 01:00:04,800 --> 01:00:09,400 Speaker 2: from the game, walked away, whatever his reasons may be. 1238 01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:10,840 Speaker 1: You know, everyone. 1239 01:00:10,560 --> 01:00:13,000 Speaker 3: Has a choice in life. I believe in that. 1240 01:00:13,080 --> 01:00:13,360 Speaker 1: I'm not. 1241 01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:16,920 Speaker 2: But they were not ready for him to quit at 1242 01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:19,520 Speaker 2: that point, and they haven't been able to come with 1243 01:00:19,640 --> 01:00:20,640 Speaker 2: the answer ever since. 1244 01:00:20,720 --> 01:00:24,080 Speaker 1: Okay, so can you say the same thing about two 1245 01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:27,720 Speaker 1: other guys that just popped in my brain that prematurely 1246 01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:31,840 Speaker 1: walked away and it shattered their franchises. I'll let you 1247 01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:32,440 Speaker 1: try to guess him. 1248 01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:34,720 Speaker 3: These are quarterback. 1249 01:00:34,840 --> 01:00:38,080 Speaker 1: No, no, but they were they were that, and they 1250 01:00:38,080 --> 01:00:40,920 Speaker 1: were that damn important. And when they both walked away, 1251 01:00:41,160 --> 01:00:45,720 Speaker 1: a shocked the world and those franchises never recovered. All right. 1252 01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:49,400 Speaker 3: So Barry Sanders, yes, Barry Sanders, Yes, that's one. The 1253 01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:52,120 Speaker 3: other one, let's go back to the sixties. Jim Brown. 1254 01:00:52,200 --> 01:00:56,360 Speaker 2: Well, but Jim Brown Brown still kept winning. The Lions, 1255 01:00:56,360 --> 01:00:58,880 Speaker 2: who were a marginal team, definitely fell off the cliff. 1256 01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:01,280 Speaker 2: The brown still they had Lee Roy Kelly Hall of 1257 01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:03,440 Speaker 2: Fame running back at place, and he wasn't Jim Brown. 1258 01:01:03,560 --> 01:01:07,280 Speaker 1: Right, they continue to win. But how many people actually 1259 01:01:07,400 --> 01:01:10,440 Speaker 1: know that you're Steve Harmon, you're walking sports sports amine. 1260 01:01:10,480 --> 01:01:13,480 Speaker 2: Okay, two guys, and wide the way at the top. 1261 01:01:13,840 --> 01:01:17,560 Speaker 2: But the Browns didn't fall off the map. But yes 1262 01:01:17,640 --> 01:01:20,360 Speaker 2: the Lions did. Yeah, so could you say it came 1263 01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:22,040 Speaker 2: out nowhere about them too? 1264 01:01:22,240 --> 01:01:24,560 Speaker 3: But Andrew Lucks a quarterback. 1265 01:01:24,640 --> 01:01:27,560 Speaker 1: And now now that we are seven years later, look 1266 01:01:27,600 --> 01:01:31,200 Speaker 1: at this revolving door quarterback two, three, four. 1267 01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:35,800 Speaker 2: Five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten. That's gonna be eleven. 1268 01:01:35,880 --> 01:01:39,800 Speaker 2: When Daniel Jones starts, that will be eleventh quarterback starting. 1269 01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:40,600 Speaker 1: Is what happens. 1270 01:01:40,600 --> 01:01:42,200 Speaker 3: Though, if you look at the forty nine Ers. 1271 01:01:42,200 --> 01:01:45,720 Speaker 1: They were lucky that they trade Montana after Leonard Marshall 1272 01:01:45,720 --> 01:01:47,920 Speaker 1: tried to knock him into the next year in the 1273 01:01:47,960 --> 01:01:50,840 Speaker 1: conference championship game on a blind side hit. They were 1274 01:01:50,920 --> 01:01:53,800 Speaker 1: lucky to get Steve Young. But after Steve Young, they 1275 01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:56,280 Speaker 1: went through a bunch of garbage. Damn Marino. Here I 1276 01:01:56,320 --> 01:01:58,040 Speaker 1: am saying here that you want to talk about a 1277 01:01:58,040 --> 01:02:01,080 Speaker 1: guy that knows about a revolving door at quarterback? 1278 01:02:02,920 --> 01:02:04,640 Speaker 3: Saying right, I mean their quarterback. 1279 01:02:04,720 --> 01:02:08,000 Speaker 1: This is what happens when you got greatness, and greatness 1280 01:02:08,040 --> 01:02:09,040 Speaker 1: walks out the door. 1281 01:02:09,440 --> 01:02:12,480 Speaker 3: You think you can just replace people in life, you know, 1282 01:02:12,520 --> 01:02:15,240 Speaker 3: and adors the Packers. 1283 01:02:14,840 --> 01:02:18,880 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, the pack there, they were anomaly there, anomaly 1284 01:02:18,960 --> 01:02:21,520 Speaker 1: that can just for some reason keep drafting the right guy. 1285 01:02:21,720 --> 01:02:24,920 Speaker 2: Well, but they draft them ahead of things, you know. 1286 01:02:25,040 --> 01:02:27,160 Speaker 2: They was like, why are you drafting Aaron Rodgers when 1287 01:02:27,160 --> 01:02:28,320 Speaker 2: he had stelled BRep fark. 1288 01:02:28,200 --> 01:02:29,960 Speaker 1: Right, you know why at the back end of the 1289 01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:36,600 Speaker 1: first round, right at the first round and they moved 1290 01:02:36,680 --> 01:02:40,400 Speaker 1: ups is like, what are you doing to me? That's 1291 01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:43,480 Speaker 1: smart though, That's called prudent planning, Like you have to 1292 01:02:43,560 --> 01:02:46,840 Speaker 1: get rid of guys, you have to plan ahead instead 1293 01:02:46,840 --> 01:02:49,720 Speaker 1: of being reaction area and that's what happens. The most 1294 01:02:49,800 --> 01:02:53,040 Speaker 1: famous stories the Boston Celtics. They held on to Age 1295 01:02:53,120 --> 01:02:55,560 Speaker 1: and Bird and Micheale and on those guys just way 1296 01:02:55,720 --> 01:02:58,240 Speaker 1: too long when they should have moved on from him, 1297 01:02:58,480 --> 01:03:01,120 Speaker 1: and it just snaked bit the friend. Then then Lynn 1298 01:03:01,200 --> 01:03:04,120 Speaker 1: Bias dies, right, they think they got their replacement in 1299 01:03:04,200 --> 01:03:06,640 Speaker 1: Lynn Bias. He dies of a cocaine overdose in a 1300 01:03:06,760 --> 01:03:10,720 Speaker 1: door room at University of Maryland. Like you have this 1301 01:03:10,960 --> 01:03:14,200 Speaker 1: time where you can see it coming smart teams. We 1302 01:03:14,320 --> 01:03:16,840 Speaker 1: talked about the Patriots in the first hour, why they 1303 01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:18,440 Speaker 1: were so good, all the little things. You know what 1304 01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:21,320 Speaker 1: Bill Belichick is, Remember the top Remember they cut lawyer Maloy. 1305 01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:24,080 Speaker 1: You guys, remember they did right before opening people opening 1306 01:03:24,080 --> 01:03:26,360 Speaker 1: the kick off the open the kickoff week, and people 1307 01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:29,120 Speaker 1: are like, what the they knew what they were doing. 1308 01:03:29,200 --> 01:03:31,560 Speaker 1: Tell me what lawyer Marloy ever did after that, guys, 1309 01:03:31,640 --> 01:03:34,400 Speaker 1: tell me what type of career he had. The Patriots 1310 01:03:34,520 --> 01:03:37,920 Speaker 1: sawed early, and they had a younger safety and younger 1311 01:03:38,000 --> 01:03:40,920 Speaker 1: guys that they thought they can pay a cheaper contract 1312 01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:44,040 Speaker 1: to that can still do the same damn job. At 1313 01:03:44,040 --> 01:03:46,280 Speaker 1: that time, they drafted Ty Law out of Michigan who 1314 01:03:46,280 --> 01:03:47,760 Speaker 1: had a pick six off of Kurt Warner in the 1315 01:03:47,840 --> 01:03:50,160 Speaker 1: Super Bowl and cemented himself as a Hall of Famer 1316 01:03:50,240 --> 01:03:52,360 Speaker 1: with all the great plays in the years that he's 1317 01:03:52,400 --> 01:03:55,440 Speaker 1: had in the NFL. But you, this is smart, prudent planning. 1318 01:03:55,720 --> 01:03:59,760 Speaker 1: But teams just tend to hold on two quarterbacks just 1319 01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:03,240 Speaker 1: way too long. Seattle is another one I could think 1320 01:04:03,280 --> 01:04:06,160 Speaker 1: of that held on the Russell Wilson way too long. 1321 01:04:06,240 --> 01:04:08,360 Speaker 1: You got a little lucky with Gino. But now he's 1322 01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:10,960 Speaker 1: out the door. And look who y're too. Now your too, 1323 01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:15,320 Speaker 1: Sam Darnold as your starting quarterback. But I sat on 1324 01:04:15,400 --> 01:04:17,440 Speaker 1: this network and said years ago, at least three or 1325 01:04:17,440 --> 01:04:19,840 Speaker 1: four years ago, Russell Wilson, you better move on from him. 1326 01:04:19,880 --> 01:04:22,040 Speaker 1: The guy don't got it no more. We get caught 1327 01:04:22,120 --> 01:04:23,640 Speaker 1: up in the name Steve. And this is one thing 1328 01:04:23,680 --> 01:04:25,440 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do this NFL season. I'm making a 1329 01:04:25,520 --> 01:04:28,200 Speaker 1: VJ proclamation. The one thing I won't do all year long. 1330 01:04:28,400 --> 01:04:30,280 Speaker 1: I'm not getting caught up on people's name. Steve. I'm 1331 01:04:30,280 --> 01:04:32,160 Speaker 1: gonna just I'm gonna put the tape on. I don't 1332 01:04:32,160 --> 01:04:34,240 Speaker 1: care what your name is this year. If the tape 1333 01:04:34,280 --> 01:04:37,680 Speaker 1: says that you're done, then the film don't lie. Now, 1334 01:04:37,960 --> 01:04:40,280 Speaker 1: by the way, and you mentioned New England. I remember 1335 01:04:40,360 --> 01:04:43,800 Speaker 1: another non quarterback that they picked up, First team All 1336 01:04:43,880 --> 01:04:46,680 Speaker 1: Pro year, Hall of Famer Drel Reeves. We had an 1337 01:04:46,840 --> 01:04:49,600 Speaker 1: unbelievable year for New England that year. It was a 1338 01:04:49,680 --> 01:04:52,760 Speaker 1: year whe they won. Uh it wasn't Defense player of 1339 01:04:52,760 --> 01:04:55,280 Speaker 1: the Year that year. But he had a great year 1340 01:04:55,320 --> 01:04:59,000 Speaker 1: that one year with New England and they won the 1341 01:04:59,040 --> 01:05:02,479 Speaker 1: Super Bowl. And there's like, okay, he said they didn't 1342 01:05:02,480 --> 01:05:05,200 Speaker 1: sign him. No, they decided he was done. You're done. 1343 01:05:05,320 --> 01:05:06,960 Speaker 3: He goes back to the Jets. He was never the 1344 01:05:07,000 --> 01:05:09,080 Speaker 3: same play, never the same player. 1345 01:05:09,200 --> 01:05:09,680 Speaker 1: They saw it. 1346 01:05:09,800 --> 01:05:11,919 Speaker 3: But that that's that's again. 1347 01:05:12,040 --> 01:05:14,880 Speaker 2: Might want I keep harping on the Patriots, but there's 1348 01:05:14,920 --> 01:05:18,600 Speaker 2: a reason why you can be successful over two decades period. 1349 01:05:18,760 --> 01:05:20,840 Speaker 3: Here's the other thing is they would admit mistakes. 1350 01:05:21,360 --> 01:05:24,120 Speaker 2: Yep, it didn't matter if you were a top three 1351 01:05:24,280 --> 01:05:27,080 Speaker 2: round pick and you don't fit, they're not gonna hold 1352 01:05:27,120 --> 01:05:30,520 Speaker 2: on You say, well, you know, give him some more time. 1353 01:05:30,920 --> 01:05:31,680 Speaker 1: No more time. 1354 01:05:32,000 --> 01:05:34,760 Speaker 2: We can recognize instantly we made a mistake. Same thing 1355 01:05:34,840 --> 01:05:37,840 Speaker 2: with free agents. They might sign a guy to a contract. 1356 01:05:38,240 --> 01:05:41,080 Speaker 2: No it's not him, and they got rid of him. 1357 01:05:41,320 --> 01:05:44,320 Speaker 2: That's that's that is such a big part of it, 1358 01:05:44,440 --> 01:05:46,920 Speaker 2: you know, because again he's had these short windows in 1359 01:05:46,960 --> 01:05:47,520 Speaker 2: the NFL. 1360 01:05:48,080 --> 01:05:49,919 Speaker 3: But the problem again for the Colts is Andrew. 1361 01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:52,520 Speaker 1: Look, I'm sorry, I'm Steve. Maybe they should have protected 1362 01:05:52,600 --> 01:05:52,920 Speaker 1: him better. 1363 01:05:53,480 --> 01:05:56,360 Speaker 8: If him leaving was gonna gut their franchise, I should 1364 01:05:56,360 --> 01:05:58,040 Speaker 8: have actually drafted offensive moodment. 1365 01:05:58,560 --> 01:06:03,640 Speaker 2: And Andrew Luck basically told everybody from the get go, 1366 01:06:04,520 --> 01:06:06,520 Speaker 2: from the get go that he was not going to 1367 01:06:06,560 --> 01:06:08,120 Speaker 2: be one of these quarterbacks who was going to you know, 1368 01:06:08,240 --> 01:06:09,680 Speaker 2: he was very cerebral. 1369 01:06:09,800 --> 01:06:10,760 Speaker 3: He went to Stanford. 1370 01:06:10,800 --> 01:06:13,480 Speaker 2: Remember he stayed an extra year at Stanford because he 1371 01:06:13,480 --> 01:06:14,920 Speaker 2: would have been the first pick in the draft of 1372 01:06:14,920 --> 01:06:17,240 Speaker 2: the year before, but he decided to stay another year 1373 01:06:17,360 --> 01:06:21,000 Speaker 2: because well, he just wanted that Stanford education. It wasn't like, well, 1374 01:06:21,000 --> 01:06:23,320 Speaker 2: I'm searching for a national He didn't say any of that. 1375 01:06:23,560 --> 01:06:25,560 Speaker 2: He just walked about, there's more than I want to 1376 01:06:25,600 --> 01:06:27,360 Speaker 2: do with my studies and everything else. So there was 1377 01:06:27,440 --> 01:06:30,080 Speaker 2: the warning out there. But what really hit the Colts 1378 01:06:30,240 --> 01:06:33,120 Speaker 2: was is that he misses the twenty seventeen season. He 1379 01:06:33,400 --> 01:06:36,760 Speaker 2: comes back from that looked as good as ever, got 1380 01:06:36,800 --> 01:06:39,120 Speaker 2: to the playoffs, won a playoff game. You're like, all right, 1381 01:06:39,200 --> 01:06:41,760 Speaker 2: we're good. Twenty nine years old and then he said, yeah, 1382 01:06:41,760 --> 01:06:44,320 Speaker 2: I'm done so and remember he did it. It wasn't 1383 01:06:44,400 --> 01:06:47,320 Speaker 2: right after the season, was like before the next season, 1384 01:06:47,760 --> 01:06:50,000 Speaker 2: and they were like, what happened if they had Persett? 1385 01:06:50,080 --> 01:06:51,480 Speaker 3: Remember Bersett had filled. 1386 01:06:51,240 --> 01:06:52,440 Speaker 1: In in his end of year. 1387 01:06:53,320 --> 01:06:55,400 Speaker 3: And then they went out, They got Philip Rivers on 1388 01:06:55,480 --> 01:06:56,360 Speaker 3: a one year rental. 1389 01:06:56,520 --> 01:06:58,720 Speaker 2: Then they went for Wins, then they went for Matt Ryan, 1390 01:06:59,240 --> 01:07:02,080 Speaker 2: and now they just the Anthony Richardson drafting was just 1391 01:07:02,480 --> 01:07:06,160 Speaker 2: a catastrophe. It was because the idea that this is 1392 01:07:06,240 --> 01:07:09,120 Speaker 2: again when you fall in love with a guy at 1393 01:07:09,160 --> 01:07:12,600 Speaker 2: the combine, Because Anthony Richardson is an amazing athlete, But 1394 01:07:12,760 --> 01:07:16,000 Speaker 2: you can't be a quarterback that completes fifty something percent 1395 01:07:16,160 --> 01:07:19,520 Speaker 2: in your one year of playing college ball and think 1396 01:07:19,600 --> 01:07:22,560 Speaker 2: that's gonna produce. Well, you know, Josh Allen was a 1397 01:07:22,640 --> 01:07:25,600 Speaker 2: fifty eight percent passer. Okay, Well, there are exceptions to 1398 01:07:25,680 --> 01:07:28,080 Speaker 2: every rule, but by and large, if you're a fifty 1399 01:07:28,120 --> 01:07:31,000 Speaker 2: percent passer at the collegiate level, the idea that you're 1400 01:07:31,040 --> 01:07:33,280 Speaker 2: gonna be a sixty five percent passer in the NFL 1401 01:07:34,400 --> 01:07:37,280 Speaker 2: is outside of Josh Allen just does not happen. 1402 01:07:37,360 --> 01:07:39,400 Speaker 1: Well, first of all, if once again, if you put 1403 01:07:39,440 --> 01:07:42,480 Speaker 1: the tape on, you can see Josh Allen's talent. If 1404 01:07:42,520 --> 01:07:45,480 Speaker 1: you put on the Wyoming tape, you can see the talent. 1405 01:07:45,600 --> 01:07:48,760 Speaker 1: And I, for one, I like big quarterbacks that play 1406 01:07:48,800 --> 01:07:51,000 Speaker 1: in cold weather because if you come in the NFL, 1407 01:07:51,120 --> 01:07:53,920 Speaker 1: you're gonna need that. And when Buffalo drafted him, if 1408 01:07:53,920 --> 01:07:57,720 Speaker 1: you guys, remember Milk hyper was the biggest, the biggest 1409 01:07:57,800 --> 01:08:00,320 Speaker 1: pomp pomp chair for Josh Allon. He was coming out 1410 01:08:00,360 --> 01:08:02,680 Speaker 1: of Wyoming. People thought he was crazy, but he goes. Guys, 1411 01:08:02,720 --> 01:08:05,480 Speaker 1: you have to understand when you put tape on it. 1412 01:08:05,760 --> 01:08:08,880 Speaker 1: It was my thing about Zach Wilson. Don't show me 1413 01:08:09,160 --> 01:08:12,920 Speaker 1: a Pro day throw running the other direction, throwing in 1414 01:08:13,040 --> 01:08:16,040 Speaker 1: eighty yards across his body. That you're not gonna do 1415 01:08:16,240 --> 01:08:18,920 Speaker 1: that on Sundays. Put the tape on, though, and when 1416 01:08:18,960 --> 01:08:22,320 Speaker 1: you put on the nineteen tape, it's bad. The twenty 1417 01:08:22,400 --> 01:08:25,880 Speaker 1: twenty tape during COVID where not everybody played. His best 1418 01:08:26,000 --> 01:08:28,200 Speaker 1: game was against Coastal Carolina in the ball game and 1419 01:08:28,240 --> 01:08:29,760 Speaker 1: they couldn't win that game and he couldn't move the 1420 01:08:29,760 --> 01:08:32,080 Speaker 1: ball against that defense. Who put one guy in the 1421 01:08:32,240 --> 01:08:34,519 Speaker 1: NFL on that from that programm in like ten years 1422 01:08:34,760 --> 01:08:36,800 Speaker 1: off the defensive side of the ball that started an 1423 01:08:36,920 --> 01:08:37,639 Speaker 1: NFL game. 1424 01:08:38,000 --> 01:08:40,639 Speaker 3: So you're right, we fall in love with the combine. 1425 01:08:40,680 --> 01:08:42,680 Speaker 3: But if you go put on Anthony. 1426 01:08:42,400 --> 01:08:47,080 Speaker 1: Rich's Florida tape, it's not good, people, It's average at best. 1427 01:08:47,360 --> 01:08:49,800 Speaker 3: He definitely should have came back. Now, I get it. 1428 01:08:50,160 --> 01:08:52,519 Speaker 1: If you know the story of him, his brother, and 1429 01:08:52,600 --> 01:08:55,320 Speaker 1: his mother, I get it. Get to the league, get 1430 01:08:55,360 --> 01:08:58,639 Speaker 1: that money, generational wealth, set your family up. I will 1431 01:08:58,760 --> 01:09:01,720 Speaker 1: never tell another grow as man not to go get 1432 01:09:01,800 --> 01:09:04,280 Speaker 1: his money to take care of his family, whether that's 1433 01:09:04,360 --> 01:09:09,240 Speaker 1: little brother, little sister, mom, dad, auntie, amuela, grandpa, whoever. 1434 01:09:09,680 --> 01:09:11,519 Speaker 1: I ain't never gonna tell nobody not to go get 1435 01:09:11,600 --> 01:09:14,160 Speaker 1: no money. But when you get there, you got it. 1436 01:09:14,280 --> 01:09:17,000 Speaker 1: He almost just looks like he's just not even interested 1437 01:09:17,080 --> 01:09:18,439 Speaker 1: in being that good. He doesn't. 1438 01:09:18,479 --> 01:09:20,240 Speaker 3: He looks like the same quarterback that was at Florida. 1439 01:09:20,520 --> 01:09:23,360 Speaker 1: I can't put on Florida. 1440 01:09:23,680 --> 01:09:25,960 Speaker 3: He is regrets. No, you're just seeing more of it. 1441 01:09:26,080 --> 01:09:27,599 Speaker 3: I think I think he looks just like the same 1442 01:09:27,680 --> 01:09:32,320 Speaker 3: kid f when he first got a look, he showed promise. 1443 01:09:32,520 --> 01:09:34,439 Speaker 1: Well you could show promise when the pros don't have 1444 01:09:34,560 --> 01:09:36,559 Speaker 1: tape on you. And I always say this about the NFL. 1445 01:09:37,080 --> 01:09:40,920 Speaker 1: Once coaches get tape on you. Now, we're gonna find 1446 01:09:40,960 --> 01:09:42,960 Speaker 1: out how good you really are. Because to me, a 1447 01:09:43,000 --> 01:09:45,920 Speaker 1: guy like CJ. Stroud, I'm gonna openly say it. And 1448 01:09:46,000 --> 01:09:47,599 Speaker 1: I called his high school games when he was out 1449 01:09:47,600 --> 01:09:50,360 Speaker 1: here out in Rancho, way out in the Inland Empire, 1450 01:09:50,400 --> 01:09:51,880 Speaker 1: out here in high school. I haven't seen his kids 1451 01:09:51,880 --> 01:09:54,719 Speaker 1: since he was seventeen years old. He's gonna take another 1452 01:09:54,920 --> 01:09:57,760 Speaker 1: step back. Teams have tape on him now. And you 1453 01:09:57,880 --> 01:09:59,960 Speaker 1: saw it a little bit last year. Is the stuff 1454 01:10:00,120 --> 01:10:02,439 Speaker 1: on this thing didn't work because he got hurt. Nico 1455 01:10:02,560 --> 01:10:04,759 Speaker 1: got hurt, all his weapons taking now all his weapons 1456 01:10:04,800 --> 01:10:06,599 Speaker 1: got hurt, and you start to kind of see, okay 1457 01:10:06,920 --> 01:10:08,719 Speaker 1: once again, not gonna say a guy doesn't any weapons, 1458 01:10:08,760 --> 01:10:11,320 Speaker 1: because you do. But I still need to be able 1459 01:10:11,400 --> 01:10:14,120 Speaker 1: to see that you have that it factor, like you 1460 01:10:14,240 --> 01:10:16,439 Speaker 1: have that ability. And I just don't think you see 1461 01:10:16,520 --> 01:10:18,160 Speaker 1: what guys with some of their weapons started to get 1462 01:10:18,200 --> 01:10:20,160 Speaker 1: a little depleted around them. 1463 01:10:20,240 --> 01:10:24,840 Speaker 3: And it's here's the thing got me about. I just 1464 01:10:24,920 --> 01:10:26,200 Speaker 3: don't think he's gonna be great. 1465 01:10:26,280 --> 01:10:28,280 Speaker 2: I think when I saw when I saw him in 1466 01:10:28,360 --> 01:10:32,720 Speaker 2: that game against Georgia, oh right, I was like, is 1467 01:10:32,760 --> 01:10:33,879 Speaker 2: anyone paying attention? 1468 01:10:34,439 --> 01:10:36,519 Speaker 3: Four touchdowns, no picks, three hundred and. 1469 01:10:36,479 --> 01:10:37,479 Speaker 1: Forty eight yards pass. 1470 01:10:38,000 --> 01:10:42,000 Speaker 2: They lose forty two to forty one against the dominant 1471 01:10:42,080 --> 01:10:45,280 Speaker 2: Georgia team. He was running in that game and was 1472 01:10:45,280 --> 01:10:49,200 Speaker 2: showing I'm like, hello, anybody paying attention. And then you 1473 01:10:49,200 --> 01:10:51,960 Speaker 2: remember we were hearing all that Levis was gonna go 1474 01:10:52,160 --> 01:10:56,519 Speaker 2: number two overall and that screwed up on his tesk, 1475 01:10:56,760 --> 01:10:59,600 Speaker 2: you know, and he well, you know, they ignored all that, 1476 01:10:59,760 --> 01:11:01,840 Speaker 2: and they took him and Anderson great picks and next 1477 01:11:01,880 --> 01:11:03,280 Speaker 2: thing you know, boom, they're in the playoffs. 1478 01:11:03,920 --> 01:11:06,360 Speaker 3: Well interesting, see j Stroude is very interesting though. 1479 01:11:06,439 --> 01:11:08,639 Speaker 1: We'll see we're gonna be exactly want to find out 1480 01:11:08,680 --> 01:11:11,680 Speaker 1: this year Vince Young, People forget this about Vince Young. 1481 01:11:11,800 --> 01:11:14,240 Speaker 1: He comes out. I mean, Vince Young, you. 1482 01:11:14,280 --> 01:11:16,720 Speaker 2: Talk about hype for a college quarterback, right, I mean, 1483 01:11:16,760 --> 01:11:18,000 Speaker 2: they're no greater hype. 1484 01:11:18,240 --> 01:11:18,360 Speaker 8: Right. 1485 01:11:18,479 --> 01:11:19,719 Speaker 3: He was offensive rookie. 1486 01:11:19,520 --> 01:11:25,240 Speaker 2: Of the Year and teams figured him out because he 1487 01:11:25,479 --> 01:11:27,720 Speaker 2: could not do anything rolling. 1488 01:11:27,520 --> 01:11:29,519 Speaker 3: To his left at all at all. He didn't know 1489 01:11:29,520 --> 01:11:30,920 Speaker 3: how to get his hips turn everything. 1490 01:11:31,040 --> 01:11:33,519 Speaker 1: He was going to his right. If you watch the 1491 01:11:33,600 --> 01:11:36,880 Speaker 1: game against USC the National Championship, it's all to the right. 1492 01:11:36,920 --> 01:11:39,280 Speaker 1: He's going to the right. And all of a sudden, 1493 01:11:39,400 --> 01:11:42,360 Speaker 1: all the NFL teams do to steer him to his left, 1494 01:11:43,080 --> 01:11:44,040 Speaker 1: and he was gone. 1495 01:11:44,120 --> 01:11:45,920 Speaker 3: He couldn't do anything. And that's what I mean by 1496 01:11:46,000 --> 01:11:46,880 Speaker 3: getting tape on. 1497 01:11:47,040 --> 01:11:47,080 Speaker 4: You. 1498 01:11:47,160 --> 01:11:50,040 Speaker 1: Once teams get tapes on, you look man at the 1499 01:11:50,120 --> 01:11:53,160 Speaker 1: quarterback position, you can just see it. I don't understand 1500 01:11:53,240 --> 01:11:55,280 Speaker 1: why it's so hard for certain fans, and I get it. 1501 01:11:55,360 --> 01:11:57,479 Speaker 1: With certain fans. You fall in love with the guy 1502 01:11:57,600 --> 01:12:00,400 Speaker 1: that's wearing your helmet on Sundays, that matches the shirt 1503 01:12:00,479 --> 01:12:02,599 Speaker 1: or a hoodie or the pajama pants or the shorts 1504 01:12:02,640 --> 01:12:04,640 Speaker 1: or whatever you're wearing. The support your team. I get it, 1505 01:12:04,720 --> 01:12:07,400 Speaker 1: But at some point you have to take those blinders 1506 01:12:07,520 --> 01:12:10,479 Speaker 1: off and just look at a player and put the 1507 01:12:10,720 --> 01:12:14,720 Speaker 1: tape on, because tape is never going to lie. And 1508 01:12:14,800 --> 01:12:17,280 Speaker 1: when you look at guys footwork, when you look at 1509 01:12:17,320 --> 01:12:20,080 Speaker 1: guy's eyes, when they show replays from the end zone camera, 1510 01:12:20,320 --> 01:12:22,639 Speaker 1: watch a quarterback's eyes if their eyes are jittery all 1511 01:12:22,640 --> 01:12:24,519 Speaker 1: over the place. Guys, he has no idea what he's 1512 01:12:24,600 --> 01:12:27,880 Speaker 1: looking at. And now he's just guest throwing. He's hoping 1513 01:12:27,960 --> 01:12:30,000 Speaker 1: this guy's gonna be there. He's hoping this receiver is 1514 01:12:30,000 --> 01:12:33,240 Speaker 1: gonna be there. He doesn't know because he can't read. 1515 01:12:33,400 --> 01:12:35,840 Speaker 1: You have to be able to read. Anthony Richardson is six' 1516 01:12:36,000 --> 01:12:39,560 Speaker 1: five two forty, five like he's a. Monster but you 1517 01:12:39,720 --> 01:12:42,120 Speaker 1: can't just hike him the ball and run them every. 1518 01:12:42,200 --> 01:12:42,960 Speaker 1: Down this isn't. 1519 01:12:43,040 --> 01:12:44,839 Speaker 3: College he's gonna get himself. 1520 01:12:44,920 --> 01:12:47,120 Speaker 1: Hurt and what someone told, HIM i forget what it, 1521 01:12:47,240 --> 01:12:49,360 Speaker 1: was but it was a veteran his rookie year AFTER 1522 01:12:49,360 --> 01:12:51,000 Speaker 1: i think like the third or fourth game where they 1523 01:12:51,040 --> 01:12:52,880 Speaker 1: had a moment in the middle of the field and someone, said, 1524 01:12:52,920 --> 01:12:54,640 Speaker 1: hey what'd you say to? Them he. GOES i told 1525 01:12:54,680 --> 01:12:56,000 Speaker 1: him he's gonna be. Good you have to keep working, 1526 01:12:56,000 --> 01:12:58,679 Speaker 1: hard but get out of, bounce get down and save. 1527 01:12:58,720 --> 01:13:00,720 Speaker 1: Yourself you're you're lowering your shy get, it. Kiddo but 1528 01:13:00,880 --> 01:13:02,439 Speaker 1: you know it was, like these guys will knock you. 1529 01:13:02,520 --> 01:13:04,320 Speaker 1: Out these guys will put you on the. Sideline Tim 1530 01:13:04,400 --> 01:13:07,120 Speaker 1: tebow right. Right Tim tebow is the same. WAY i, 1531 01:13:07,200 --> 01:13:10,519 Speaker 1: mean he could run over people at THE layl, level 1532 01:13:10,600 --> 01:13:12,920 Speaker 1: but he can't do that in THE. Nfl all, right once, 1533 01:13:12,920 --> 01:13:15,600 Speaker 1: again we're alive from The Fox Sports radio. Studios SO 1534 01:13:15,760 --> 01:13:19,400 Speaker 1: i threw a curveball To vjay with My Andrew luck 1535 01:13:19,439 --> 01:13:20,719 Speaker 1: has just destroyed The colts. 1536 01:13:20,840 --> 01:13:24,439 Speaker 2: Organization now he's going to return the. FAVOR i don't 1537 01:13:24,479 --> 01:13:26,559 Speaker 2: know with, what but he's going to return the. Favor 1538 01:13:26,800 --> 01:13:31,879 Speaker 2: this Is Fox Sports, Saturday harbin And, Husky Fox Sports 1539 01:13:32,000 --> 01:13:35,800 Speaker 2: Saturday live from The Fox Sports radio. Studios All, RIGHT 1540 01:13:35,920 --> 01:13:39,519 Speaker 2: i Threw andrew luck is a man that destroyed The 1541 01:13:39,600 --> 01:13:40,719 Speaker 2: Indianapolis colts. 1542 01:13:40,880 --> 01:13:44,519 Speaker 1: Franchise you were stunned by. That now you say you 1543 01:13:44,600 --> 01:13:45,360 Speaker 1: got something from, ME. 1544 01:13:45,520 --> 01:13:48,280 Speaker 3: I do got something for, you. Man All, right we 1545 01:13:48,360 --> 01:13:50,800 Speaker 3: talked About Joe. Burrow m kids. 1546 01:13:50,840 --> 01:13:54,840 Speaker 1: PHENOMENAL i, mean this, kid this, KID i, mean, listen 1547 01:13:55,640 --> 01:13:57,519 Speaker 1: it's a toss up in my, eyes who could be 1548 01:13:58,200 --> 01:14:01,479 Speaker 1: the second best quarterback in? FOOTBALL i, think, Respectfully i'm 1549 01:14:01,520 --> 01:14:03,840 Speaker 1: gonna still Say. Mahomes i'm gonna still give it the. 1550 01:14:03,880 --> 01:14:06,600 Speaker 3: PATH i like how you say that respectfully because, respectfully you. 1551 01:14:06,640 --> 01:14:08,200 Speaker 1: Know when you look at his, record it's. 1552 01:14:08,240 --> 01:14:10,680 Speaker 3: Hard last two years it's been they've been. 1553 01:14:10,720 --> 01:14:12,960 Speaker 1: Winning but as far as the ability just to play the, 1554 01:14:13,040 --> 01:14:15,920 Speaker 1: game Right, joe, goodness gracious, man that. Guy and then 1555 01:14:15,920 --> 01:14:18,439 Speaker 1: once again you're throwing. Too As steve AND i both, 1556 01:14:18,439 --> 01:14:21,040 Speaker 1: agree ONE b ONE. A however you want it to, Be, 1557 01:14:21,200 --> 01:14:23,720 Speaker 1: guys if someone told, me if somebody told me That 1558 01:14:23,800 --> 01:14:25,640 Speaker 1: Jamar chase is the best receiver. FOOTBALL i don't have 1559 01:14:25,720 --> 01:14:27,960 Speaker 1: a lot to argue but about, well as long as 1560 01:14:28,000 --> 01:14:30,479 Speaker 1: you're telling, me, right thank. You as long as you 1561 01:14:30,600 --> 01:14:32,479 Speaker 1: tell me That jefferson is like ONE. B all, right, 1562 01:14:32,520 --> 01:14:34,639 Speaker 1: Cool let's move on to the next. Topic we don't 1563 01:14:34,680 --> 01:14:36,479 Speaker 1: have to go back and forth between ONE a and ONE. 1564 01:14:36,640 --> 01:14:38,960 Speaker 1: B BUT i look At, BURROW i look at this. 1565 01:14:39,080 --> 01:14:42,120 Speaker 1: DEFENSE i look at this, team and it. Strokes it 1566 01:14:42,800 --> 01:14:45,320 Speaker 1: really strikes something near and dear to my heart THAT 1567 01:14:45,520 --> 01:14:48,320 Speaker 1: i had to grow up watching as a kid Loving 1568 01:14:48,400 --> 01:14:51,599 Speaker 1: Mi Miami. Dolphins mm. Hm and that Was Dan, Marino, 1569 01:14:51,760 --> 01:14:55,920 Speaker 1: yeah who in any given year was the best quarterback in. 1570 01:14:55,960 --> 01:14:58,360 Speaker 1: Football apps was the best quarterback guys you can get 1571 01:14:58,360 --> 01:15:01,160 Speaker 1: Me lway And montana and all these, guys and even 1572 01:15:01,200 --> 01:15:02,120 Speaker 1: When aikman came. 1573 01:15:02,000 --> 01:15:04,479 Speaker 3: Along who was super. Accurate BUT i think they had. 1574 01:15:04,560 --> 01:15:05,840 Speaker 3: Teams all those guys had. 1575 01:15:05,920 --> 01:15:09,760 Speaker 1: TEAMS i watched a ton Of Miami dolphin forty one 1576 01:15:09,880 --> 01:15:13,720 Speaker 1: thirty eight losses in my, lifetime thirty six thirty. Two 1577 01:15:14,040 --> 01:15:17,000 Speaker 1: it Wasn't Damn marino. Guys he'd go out there and 1578 01:15:17,080 --> 01:15:19,760 Speaker 1: throw thirty on the. Board whether it Was Tony mahr 1579 01:15:19,840 --> 01:15:23,400 Speaker 1: And Mark, Duper Mark, CLAYTON oj, McDuffie L Ronde. Gads 1580 01:15:23,479 --> 01:15:26,800 Speaker 1: THEN i can name them all Day Keith jackson they 1581 01:15:26,840 --> 01:15:29,360 Speaker 1: got in the midseason trade from The eagles one. YEAR 1582 01:15:29,640 --> 01:15:33,840 Speaker 1: i could name them all day. Long but you just 1583 01:15:34,000 --> 01:15:37,160 Speaker 1: knew he's gonna have to score thirty plus for you 1584 01:15:37,600 --> 01:15:39,720 Speaker 1: for you to have a shot to win that. Day 1585 01:15:40,520 --> 01:15:42,479 Speaker 1: AND i look At Joe burrow and the QUESTION i 1586 01:15:42,520 --> 01:15:45,439 Speaker 1: want to throw to you and ask, you Is Joe 1587 01:15:45,640 --> 01:15:51,000 Speaker 1: burrow gonna end up Being Dan marino Because, marino Like, 1588 01:15:51,080 --> 01:15:54,320 Speaker 1: burrow got Two Super bowl early lost. 1589 01:15:54,080 --> 01:15:55,200 Speaker 3: To just a better. 1590 01:15:55,280 --> 01:15:57,679 Speaker 1: Team San francisco was better with The rams Were burrow's 1591 01:15:57,720 --> 01:15:59,240 Speaker 1: up in that. Game marino was never up in his. 1592 01:15:59,360 --> 01:16:02,640 Speaker 1: Game they lost that game by double, digits But burrow was. 1593 01:16:02,720 --> 01:16:04,479 Speaker 3: Up you, know he had a. 1594 01:16:04,560 --> 01:16:07,280 Speaker 1: Lead he was doing his part going Against Aaron donald 1595 01:16:07,360 --> 01:16:11,280 Speaker 1: in that. Defense but when it's all said and, done 1596 01:16:11,479 --> 01:16:13,280 Speaker 1: are we gonna look At Joe burrow as this? Guy 1597 01:16:13,360 --> 01:16:17,280 Speaker 1: because you talk about The bengals ownership And Wayne, Heinzinger 1598 01:16:17,479 --> 01:16:19,120 Speaker 1: lord rest is. Soul that was my guy BECAUSE i 1599 01:16:19,200 --> 01:16:20,880 Speaker 1: was a, kid And Joe Robbie stadium and all. That 1600 01:16:20,960 --> 01:16:24,280 Speaker 1: BUT i can't remember where they ever really ever tried 1601 01:16:24,320 --> 01:16:28,280 Speaker 1: to truly Help Dann marino and bring in big name 1602 01:16:28,360 --> 01:16:31,280 Speaker 1: guys and made great traf picks to Help. 1603 01:16:31,160 --> 01:16:32,599 Speaker 3: Dan marino, out and they just never. 1604 01:16:32,760 --> 01:16:36,160 Speaker 1: Did my question for you and everyone listening when it's 1605 01:16:36,200 --> 01:16:40,000 Speaker 1: all said and, done Is Joe burrow gonna end up 1606 01:16:40,120 --> 01:16:41,519 Speaker 1: being this Heirs Damn? 1607 01:16:41,600 --> 01:16:43,960 Speaker 3: Marino he could very well. Be and you know when 1608 01:16:44,000 --> 01:16:44,800 Speaker 3: you Mentioned Dann. 1609 01:16:44,880 --> 01:16:49,640 Speaker 2: Marino first of, all my first eyewitness To marino was 1610 01:16:49,680 --> 01:16:52,120 Speaker 2: the first YEAR i worked for The, raiders nineteen eighty. 1611 01:16:52,160 --> 01:16:53,200 Speaker 3: Four did you KNOW i worked for The. 1612 01:16:53,280 --> 01:16:55,920 Speaker 1: RAIDERS i did not know. That so we go down To. 1613 01:16:55,960 --> 01:16:58,760 Speaker 3: Miami miami was twelve and. One they had started the 1614 01:16:58,840 --> 01:16:59,320 Speaker 3: year eleven and. 1615 01:16:59,400 --> 01:17:02,679 Speaker 2: Zero this was the hear That marino shattered at shattered 1616 01:17:02,720 --> 01:17:05,760 Speaker 2: THE nfl record books. SHATTERED i, mean he went forty 1617 01:17:05,800 --> 01:17:09,320 Speaker 2: eight touchdowns when the record was thirty six. Yards so 1618 01:17:09,479 --> 01:17:12,320 Speaker 2: we go down To miami and we win this. Game 1619 01:17:12,400 --> 01:17:17,040 Speaker 2: we needed this, game And Mike haynes had a ninety 1620 01:17:17,080 --> 01:17:19,679 Speaker 2: seven yard interception for a. Touchdown but in that, Game 1621 01:17:19,760 --> 01:17:23,000 Speaker 2: marino throws for four thirty four and four. Touchdowns So 1622 01:17:23,200 --> 01:17:25,160 Speaker 2: i'm on the bus as we're heading back to the 1623 01:17:25,240 --> 01:17:28,000 Speaker 2: airport And Lester, hayes who should be in The hall 1624 01:17:28,000 --> 01:17:31,559 Speaker 2: Of fame comes back and He Mark clayton just ate him. 1625 01:17:31,560 --> 01:17:34,400 Speaker 3: Alive and he goes and he said he was a 1626 01:17:34,439 --> 01:17:36,720 Speaker 3: bit of a. Stuttery CAN i CAN i? 1627 01:17:36,760 --> 01:17:38,720 Speaker 1: See CAN i see the? NUMBERS i, go you don't 1628 01:17:38,720 --> 01:17:39,200 Speaker 1: want to see that. 1629 01:17:41,800 --> 01:17:42,640 Speaker 6: It AND i. 1630 01:17:44,640 --> 01:17:47,120 Speaker 2: Because at that time The chargers With Dan, fous you 1631 01:17:47,160 --> 01:17:49,360 Speaker 2: know That Eric coriel was unstoppable. 1632 01:17:49,479 --> 01:17:53,240 Speaker 3: Offense And lester looked at me and he, said. 1633 01:17:54,520 --> 01:17:56,600 Speaker 1: This guy's. Better, yep and he. 1634 01:17:56,760 --> 01:17:58,479 Speaker 3: Was every pass was right. 1635 01:17:58,840 --> 01:18:03,280 Speaker 2: There when you ask quarterbacks that played in that era 1636 01:18:03,840 --> 01:18:07,080 Speaker 2: who was the best, quarterback they will all tell. 1637 01:18:07,000 --> 01:18:10,559 Speaker 1: You Dan marina was the best. Quarterback and it Wasn't Dan. 1638 01:18:10,640 --> 01:18:13,800 Speaker 1: Marina it Wasn't john L, way it Wasn't Joe, montana 1639 01:18:14,160 --> 01:18:17,680 Speaker 1: it was none of those. Guys the best actual quarterback 1640 01:18:18,320 --> 01:18:21,439 Speaker 1: in terms of throwing the football playing the position Was 1641 01:18:21,640 --> 01:18:24,040 Speaker 1: Dan marino and it wasn't. 1642 01:18:24,080 --> 01:18:26,400 Speaker 3: Close and that's all we could say About Joe. 1643 01:18:26,439 --> 01:18:29,479 Speaker 2: Burrow as great As Patrick mahomes, is he is the 1644 01:18:29,560 --> 01:18:33,120 Speaker 2: goat right now With Tom, brady but he is the 1645 01:18:33,200 --> 01:18:37,080 Speaker 2: guy because of the all the, Numbers Joe burrow is 1646 01:18:37,120 --> 01:18:39,280 Speaker 2: a better quarterback in terms of throwing the. 1647 01:18:39,360 --> 01:18:41,360 Speaker 1: Ball what he can. Do the difference that he can. 1648 01:18:41,439 --> 01:18:44,840 Speaker 1: Make he's, bigger he's, bigger he's. Stronger he throws a. 1649 01:18:46,880 --> 01:18:47,960 Speaker 3: He, does he's got a bigger. 1650 01:18:48,080 --> 01:18:51,040 Speaker 2: Arm he does it just you, know because again the Problem, 1651 01:18:51,120 --> 01:18:53,879 Speaker 2: reno they didn't have any consistency with a running game. 1652 01:18:53,840 --> 01:18:55,920 Speaker 1: At, all never had never had a thousand yard. 1653 01:18:55,960 --> 01:18:59,040 Speaker 2: Rusher they were just stagnant all those. Years they never 1654 01:18:59,280 --> 01:19:02,200 Speaker 2: ever were a to put the right pieces. Together but 1655 01:19:02,320 --> 01:19:04,439 Speaker 2: when you, Again i'll go by those to play the 1656 01:19:04,520 --> 01:19:08,440 Speaker 2: game forget my, right those that played the, game quarterbacks 1657 01:19:08,520 --> 01:19:10,480 Speaker 2: who understand the position. 1658 01:19:10,320 --> 01:19:14,400 Speaker 1: Of that, era they will all tell you the best 1659 01:19:14,720 --> 01:19:17,280 Speaker 1: quarterback Was Damn. Marino and there's the reason why he 1660 01:19:17,360 --> 01:19:20,040 Speaker 1: still fits in some people's like top five or. Six 1661 01:19:20,360 --> 01:19:23,680 Speaker 1: so without a Super bowl, ring without a, ring yes 1662 01:19:23,880 --> 01:19:27,800 Speaker 1: you can't make a serious. Quarterback all time lists And 1663 01:19:27,920 --> 01:19:32,160 Speaker 1: marinos outside of like the top six when the when 1664 01:19:32,200 --> 01:19:34,840 Speaker 1: THE nfl or you, know the top one, hundred, Right 1665 01:19:34,960 --> 01:19:36,000 Speaker 1: marina was on that. List. 1666 01:19:36,120 --> 01:19:38,760 Speaker 2: Absolutely there were people that were surprised at certain guys 1667 01:19:38,840 --> 01:19:40,560 Speaker 2: were not on that, list like A Drew brees or 1668 01:19:40,600 --> 01:19:40,840 Speaker 2: something like. 1669 01:19:40,840 --> 01:19:42,560 Speaker 1: That no, no, no, no, no, no no no no. 1670 01:19:42,920 --> 01:19:45,439 Speaker 1: No drew was a. Listen And i'm not trying to Knock, drew, 1671 01:19:45,520 --> 01:19:49,280 Speaker 1: guys But Drew champagne, system drop, back get it out. 1672 01:19:49,360 --> 01:19:53,479 Speaker 3: Quick Dann marino was the. System and When Jimmy johnson came. 1673 01:19:53,520 --> 01:19:56,160 Speaker 1: In if you guys remember, That Jimmy reed gets fired 1674 01:19:56,200 --> 01:19:59,519 Speaker 1: from The, cowboys takes a few years, off takes The dolphins. Job, 1675 01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:03,639 Speaker 1: hey and he Drafts kareem Abdul jabbar from your alma 1676 01:20:03,720 --> 01:20:04,800 Speaker 1: mater at. 1677 01:20:04,720 --> 01:20:07,479 Speaker 3: The running back, position and we're gonna run the. 1678 01:20:07,560 --> 01:20:10,640 Speaker 1: Football, well that never worked because by the time they 1679 01:20:10,680 --> 01:20:12,200 Speaker 1: got to the third and fourth, quarter they. 1680 01:20:12,080 --> 01:20:12,720 Speaker 3: Were always down. 1681 01:20:12,800 --> 01:20:14,720 Speaker 1: Ten and he even said it in an interview in 1682 01:20:14,760 --> 01:20:16,640 Speaker 1: a documentary AND i Watched What's, on we SAID i 1683 01:20:17,040 --> 01:20:19,160 Speaker 1: had to humble myself BECAUSE i had to keep going 1684 01:20:19,240 --> 01:20:21,760 Speaker 1: To dan and, Saying, okay can you go get me 1685 01:20:21,880 --> 01:20:24,760 Speaker 1: this one? Again like, no it's what you should have been, 1686 01:20:24,840 --> 01:20:26,200 Speaker 1: doing is just lat And dan go get it for, 1687 01:20:26,280 --> 01:20:28,400 Speaker 1: you because that's WHAT o Don shulan knew he was 1688 01:20:28,439 --> 01:20:31,479 Speaker 1: smart enough to. Do by the, way very quickly you 1689 01:20:31,520 --> 01:20:34,400 Speaker 1: Mentioned kareem Abdul, jabbar so he Was charman shaw, yep 1690 01:20:34,479 --> 01:20:37,240 Speaker 1: right and Right Terry donnius's coach and he walks in 1691 01:20:37,320 --> 01:20:39,040 Speaker 1: to see the coach and, Goes i'm gonna change my 1692 01:20:39,160 --> 01:20:41,839 Speaker 1: name and he goes and as he's walking, Out donnias, 1693 01:20:41,840 --> 01:20:42,360 Speaker 1: says what's your? 1694 01:20:42,439 --> 01:20:44,000 Speaker 3: Name he, Goes Kareem Abdul. 1695 01:20:44,160 --> 01:20:47,800 Speaker 1: Jabbar he's, like what you? See? 1696 01:20:48,000 --> 01:20:51,200 Speaker 2: La all, right we're gonna talk some MORE nfl coming 1697 01:20:51,280 --> 01:20:52,280 Speaker 2: up To this Is Fox Sports. 1698 01:20:52,280 --> 01:20:55,639 Speaker 3: Saturday do're listening To Fox Sports? 1699 01:20:55,720 --> 01:20:56,000 Speaker 1: Radio? 1700 01:20:57,280 --> 01:21:00,519 Speaker 2: Oh feeling good here as we roll off on this 1701 01:21:00,760 --> 01:21:04,559 Speaker 2: edition Of Fox Sports saturday once, again broadcasting live from 1702 01:21:04,600 --> 01:21:08,639 Speaker 2: The Fox Sports radio. Studios coming up here in about fifteen, 1703 01:21:08,680 --> 01:21:12,600 Speaker 2: Minutes Adam kaplan OUR nfl insider is going to Be 1704 01:21:12,680 --> 01:21:15,680 Speaker 2: Johnny Us and of Course adam he tours all the. 1705 01:21:15,760 --> 01:21:19,680 Speaker 2: Camps you, know the camps have changed so dramatically over the. 1706 01:21:19,800 --> 01:21:22,519 Speaker 2: Years it's it's not like it. WAS i mean when 1707 01:21:22,600 --> 01:21:24,479 Speaker 2: you when you used to go to, camps you know 1708 01:21:24,720 --> 01:21:28,560 Speaker 2: it would really start in Early, july you, know two a. 1709 01:21:28,640 --> 01:21:31,640 Speaker 2: DAYS i, mean you, know hot as, hell and you 1710 01:21:31,720 --> 01:21:34,479 Speaker 2: know it was a long extended. Thing, now of, course 1711 01:21:34,520 --> 01:21:37,439 Speaker 2: these training cancer a very. Abbreviated they're not going to 1712 01:21:37,560 --> 01:21:41,120 Speaker 2: risk wisely anybody get hurt and still Were Shawn slater's 1713 01:21:41,120 --> 01:21:43,920 Speaker 2: out for the, year so there's no preventans football people 1714 01:21:43,960 --> 01:21:45,880 Speaker 2: are going to get. Hurt but they're going to try 1715 01:21:45,920 --> 01:21:48,160 Speaker 2: to do what they can do to prevent those injuries 1716 01:21:48,200 --> 01:21:51,720 Speaker 2: from happening as best they. Can so it's not that 1717 01:21:51,880 --> 01:21:54,920 Speaker 2: the environment is. Tough and in, FACT i wanted to 1718 01:21:55,040 --> 01:21:56,960 Speaker 2: Ask adam in the. Past i'm definitely going to ask 1719 01:21:57,080 --> 01:21:59,599 Speaker 2: him today because he's been following training cancer for, many many. 1720 01:21:59,680 --> 01:22:02,960 Speaker 2: YEARS i have just you, know can you really get 1721 01:22:03,000 --> 01:22:06,840 Speaker 2: a read on training and, camps on what's happening in 1722 01:22:06,920 --> 01:22:09,240 Speaker 2: training camps like he used to because you got to 1723 01:22:09,320 --> 01:22:11,720 Speaker 2: see guys extended play and everything else out on the. 1724 01:22:11,760 --> 01:22:12,519 Speaker 1: Field it's. 1725 01:22:12,560 --> 01:22:15,800 Speaker 3: Different so we'll Have Adam kaplan coming up on the. 1726 01:22:15,880 --> 01:22:19,479 Speaker 1: Show by the. Way one other, things you, know we're we're. 1727 01:22:19,400 --> 01:22:23,479 Speaker 2: Football heavy now because now the full, season but you 1728 01:22:23,560 --> 01:22:25,519 Speaker 2: know what's coming up around the. Corner they don't have a. 1729 01:22:25,600 --> 01:22:29,120 Speaker 2: Preseat i'm talking about college, football and let's. 1730 01:22:28,880 --> 01:22:30,600 Speaker 3: Face, it i mean there's there's going to be a 1731 01:22:30,640 --> 01:22:30,840 Speaker 3: lot of. 1732 01:22:30,920 --> 01:22:33,200 Speaker 2: Focus you, know we're excited That dion's going to be 1733 01:22:33,280 --> 01:22:35,599 Speaker 2: back With, colorado very anxious to see. 1734 01:22:35,479 --> 01:22:38,200 Speaker 3: Now that his sons have moved on to the professional. 1735 01:22:38,320 --> 01:22:40,200 Speaker 1: Ranks you, know what's his, commitment what's he going to 1736 01:22:40,240 --> 01:22:42,000 Speaker 1: do In? Colorado but. 1737 01:22:43,680 --> 01:22:46,080 Speaker 3: The number one coach as far as eyeballs is going 1738 01:22:46,120 --> 01:22:46,240 Speaker 3: to Be. 1739 01:22:46,320 --> 01:22:47,639 Speaker 1: BELICHICK i, mean. 1740 01:22:47,640 --> 01:22:48,640 Speaker 3: What do YOU i? 1741 01:22:48,760 --> 01:22:51,880 Speaker 1: Mean BECAUSE i you, KNOW i you, KNOW i you know. 1742 01:22:52,000 --> 01:22:54,200 Speaker 2: Me i'm a big nut for college, football SO i 1743 01:22:54,760 --> 01:22:57,439 Speaker 2: you Know i've been and everyone will say the same. 1744 01:22:57,560 --> 01:23:00,320 Speaker 3: Thing they have no read On North, carolina. 1745 01:23:00,160 --> 01:23:03,439 Speaker 2: Right they have zero read on, This like what what 1746 01:23:03,520 --> 01:23:05,200 Speaker 2: do you expect from the? Tar and we know they're 1747 01:23:05,240 --> 01:23:07,559 Speaker 2: not favored to win THE ACC i mean where they're 1748 01:23:07,600 --> 01:23:11,599 Speaker 2: not that. Level uh you know they Got Mac brown 1749 01:23:11,640 --> 01:23:13,920 Speaker 2: to come back and you know he did okay. JOB i, 1750 01:23:13,960 --> 01:23:17,280 Speaker 2: Mean North carolina has never been a power in. Football 1751 01:23:17,360 --> 01:23:20,040 Speaker 2: they have some decent, teams but now you're bringing in 1752 01:23:20,120 --> 01:23:22,519 Speaker 2: the six Time Super bowl, champ a guy that's going 1753 01:23:22,600 --> 01:23:24,360 Speaker 2: to be elected to The Pro Football hall Of fame 1754 01:23:24,439 --> 01:23:26,800 Speaker 2: coming up this, year first Ballot hall Of. Famer he 1755 01:23:26,840 --> 01:23:29,120 Speaker 2: guy's on The Matt rushmore OF nfl, coaches there's no 1756 01:23:29,280 --> 01:23:34,160 Speaker 2: question about. That but now in his, seventies he's coming 1757 01:23:34,280 --> 01:23:39,720 Speaker 2: To North carolina to coach college. FOOTBALL i DON'T i 1758 01:23:39,720 --> 01:23:42,839 Speaker 2: don't want so much a prediction because it's we don't. 1759 01:23:42,720 --> 01:23:44,720 Speaker 1: Know, Right but what are your? 1760 01:23:44,880 --> 01:23:47,280 Speaker 2: THOUGHTS i, mean are you are you all in to 1761 01:23:47,439 --> 01:23:49,920 Speaker 2: see what this guy can? Do do you feel like 1762 01:23:50,040 --> 01:23:52,800 Speaker 2: he's yesterday's, News, like what are you? DOING i mean 1763 01:23:52,880 --> 01:23:55,800 Speaker 2: outside of his you, know his. GIRLFRIEND i, mean where 1764 01:23:55,920 --> 01:23:59,920 Speaker 2: are you sitting right? Now in terms of your interest 1765 01:24:00,240 --> 01:24:02,200 Speaker 2: in What Bill belichick does At North. 1766 01:24:02,240 --> 01:24:04,160 Speaker 1: Carolina on a scale of what give me a scale 1767 01:24:04,200 --> 01:24:08,920 Speaker 1: one to ten, THREE i could care less. Listen like you, 1768 01:24:08,960 --> 01:24:12,720 Speaker 1: said it's old. News Bill belichick At carolina's old. News 1769 01:24:12,800 --> 01:24:14,920 Speaker 1: but you know, WHAT i think that's how he wants. 1770 01:24:15,000 --> 01:24:17,680 Speaker 1: IT i think that's How Bill belichick wants. It and 1771 01:24:18,240 --> 01:24:20,840 Speaker 1: let's get. Real the one thing that we can't do 1772 01:24:21,000 --> 01:24:22,519 Speaker 1: this year THAT i thought we did a little too 1773 01:24:22,600 --> 01:24:25,360 Speaker 1: much over the last two years is focus on a 1774 01:24:25,439 --> 01:24:29,000 Speaker 1: team that's not a national championship. Contender but because of 1775 01:24:29,040 --> 01:24:31,320 Speaker 1: the storyline and that Was colorado, knew we Knew colorado Has. 1776 01:24:31,360 --> 01:24:33,840 Speaker 1: Shador shador is AN. Nfl now he's gonna be a starting. 1777 01:24:33,880 --> 01:24:36,880 Speaker 1: Quarterback Travis, hunter best player in the world in college 1778 01:24:36,880 --> 01:24:38,880 Speaker 1: football last, year won The Heisman. Trophy he's gonna play 1779 01:24:38,880 --> 01:24:40,920 Speaker 1: both ways and do some great, THINGS i believe for 1780 01:24:41,120 --> 01:24:44,800 Speaker 1: The Jacksonville jaguars and help Out Trevor lawrence's name down 1781 01:24:44,880 --> 01:24:50,280 Speaker 1: there In North. Florida but they're so much riding on 1782 01:24:50,600 --> 01:24:54,840 Speaker 1: this year for a guy Like James, franklin or It's 1783 01:24:54,960 --> 01:24:57,760 Speaker 1: Kirby smart, done or do they just or did they 1784 01:24:57,880 --> 01:25:00,400 Speaker 1: just have a little hiccup In georgia COU i thought 1785 01:25:00,439 --> 01:25:03,439 Speaker 1: two years ago When georgia lost THE sec championship, game 1786 01:25:03,520 --> 01:25:05,760 Speaker 1: is the number one team in the nation and got 1787 01:25:05,880 --> 01:25:08,360 Speaker 1: knocked out of the top. FOUR i thought was a 1788 01:25:08,520 --> 01:25:12,160 Speaker 1: Greagious that team had lost one game in their previous 1789 01:25:12,280 --> 01:25:14,880 Speaker 1: twenty seven to twenty eight, games and you're telling me 1790 01:25:15,000 --> 01:25:17,439 Speaker 1: this isn't one of the top four teams in college. 1791 01:25:17,439 --> 01:25:19,599 Speaker 1: Football so then there's that. Storyline and then of course 1792 01:25:20,120 --> 01:25:23,360 Speaker 1: the elephant in the rule of college, football the name 1793 01:25:23,479 --> 01:25:27,400 Speaker 1: of all names at the quarterback, position probably in the 1794 01:25:27,680 --> 01:25:32,920 Speaker 1: history of the, Game manning And arch And texas And, 1795 01:25:33,120 --> 01:25:36,320 Speaker 1: Stark and it's just it's so much What's kelly gonna? 1796 01:25:36,360 --> 01:25:39,280 Speaker 1: Do down AT. Lsu Nordon dame has lost their tight 1797 01:25:39,400 --> 01:25:41,160 Speaker 1: end and running back now and they were just played 1798 01:25:41,160 --> 01:25:44,479 Speaker 1: for the national championship. Game Ohio state's defending champions with 1799 01:25:44,560 --> 01:25:47,040 Speaker 1: that fake championship they won last. Year they're back. There 1800 01:25:47,439 --> 01:25:49,519 Speaker 1: there's so much we'll get to. That we talked about 1801 01:25:49,520 --> 01:25:51,559 Speaker 1: That lray last. Week we all get a little more 1802 01:25:51,600 --> 01:25:52,760 Speaker 1: to that you know HOW i. Feel, Man come, on, 1803 01:25:52,840 --> 01:25:58,040 Speaker 1: Baby but the bottom line is they did win the national. 1804 01:25:58,200 --> 01:26:01,880 Speaker 1: Championship they had to win four, games and your Beloved 1805 01:26:01,920 --> 01:26:02,800 Speaker 1: wolverines beat. 1806 01:26:02,840 --> 01:26:05,400 Speaker 3: THEM i mean that that, counts, Right, okay you. 1807 01:26:07,800 --> 01:26:11,439 Speaker 1: Count because what He hayes once, said you can't lose 1808 01:26:11,560 --> 01:26:13,320 Speaker 1: the game and claim to be a. 1809 01:26:14,000 --> 01:26:17,559 Speaker 2: Champion, obviously if you would have a previous format of four, 1810 01:26:17,600 --> 01:26:19,640 Speaker 2: schools they wouldn't have been in the, playoffs and that have. 1811 01:26:19,640 --> 01:26:20,160 Speaker 1: Been the end of the. 1812 01:26:20,240 --> 01:26:22,360 Speaker 3: Season, Listen i'm only going by. 1813 01:26:22,439 --> 01:26:26,320 Speaker 2: With The they had an, opportunity they made him in 1814 01:26:26,560 --> 01:26:29,160 Speaker 2: after embarrassing, themselves and they lost two. 1815 01:26:29,240 --> 01:26:31,559 Speaker 1: GAMES i mean like they went like even lost just one. 1816 01:26:31,640 --> 01:26:34,040 Speaker 1: Game they lost two. Games michigan went. Fifteen we went, on. 1817 01:26:34,680 --> 01:26:37,800 Speaker 2: They, Lost they lost The oregon and they revenge lost 1818 01:26:38,360 --> 01:26:40,800 Speaker 2: in a big, way by the, way lost your big. 1819 01:26:40,880 --> 01:26:41,960 Speaker 1: Way you're your, Guy Dylan. 1820 01:26:42,040 --> 01:26:43,960 Speaker 3: Gabriel people think he's gonna beat out shit During. 1821 01:26:44,000 --> 01:26:45,240 Speaker 1: Cleveland BUT i just. 1822 01:26:45,320 --> 01:26:47,720 Speaker 2: Think that ripping On Dylan. Gabriel what are you just 1823 01:26:47,800 --> 01:26:50,880 Speaker 2: taking pot shots? Here you are you going to watch? 1824 01:26:50,960 --> 01:26:55,120 Speaker 2: Belichicker you don't care how? Three So i'm going off right, Now, Listen, 1825 01:26:55,280 --> 01:26:56,800 Speaker 2: NO I i. Don't but but here's the. 1826 01:26:56,880 --> 01:26:59,720 Speaker 1: THING i will definitely like you and like everybody else 1827 01:26:59,760 --> 01:27:02,680 Speaker 1: that loves college, FOOTBALL i will peek, in would you 1828 01:27:02,800 --> 01:27:06,280 Speaker 1: want would you rather see him go ten and two or? 1829 01:27:06,400 --> 01:27:08,400 Speaker 1: Two inten so, no, no, no, no no. NO i 1830 01:27:08,479 --> 01:27:11,200 Speaker 1: would love to see him do well because what that's 1831 01:27:11,200 --> 01:27:14,240 Speaker 1: going to do is for our. Business it gives us 1832 01:27:14,280 --> 01:27:16,080 Speaker 1: something next shoar to talk. About we'll get some. 1833 01:27:16,240 --> 01:27:19,120 Speaker 3: Dog if he, failed, right, well let me think about. 1834 01:27:19,160 --> 01:27:21,479 Speaker 1: This if he, FAILS i think it goes by the 1835 01:27:21,479 --> 01:27:22,120 Speaker 1: way the. 1836 01:27:22,200 --> 01:27:25,000 Speaker 2: Course between him And brady could not have gone any, worse, 1837 01:27:25,240 --> 01:27:28,519 Speaker 2: right could. Not he never won another playoff, Game brady 1838 01:27:28,600 --> 01:27:30,479 Speaker 2: goes To tampa immediately wins The Super. 1839 01:27:30,520 --> 01:27:33,000 Speaker 1: BOWL i, mean all those, years who made? 1840 01:27:33,080 --> 01:27:36,479 Speaker 3: Who and it took one year to, say, OH i 1841 01:27:36,560 --> 01:27:38,519 Speaker 3: guess we just got the. Answer BUT i think it's. 1842 01:27:38,600 --> 01:27:40,760 Speaker 3: Water legacy has taken a. 1843 01:27:40,960 --> 01:27:41,080 Speaker 4: Him. 1844 01:27:41,280 --> 01:27:44,800 Speaker 3: Nah Bill belichick's legacy is as semen as The. 1845 01:27:44,960 --> 01:27:47,920 Speaker 1: Do they have any statues of bella? Chick and it 1846 01:27:48,000 --> 01:27:50,680 Speaker 1: will be there will be one In New. England get 1847 01:27:50,720 --> 01:27:51,680 Speaker 1: a statue in the. 1848 01:27:51,680 --> 01:27:53,280 Speaker 3: Way you like How brady took a shot at The. 1849 01:27:53,400 --> 01:27:55,160 Speaker 3: Jets of, course because that's what he's going to. 1850 01:27:55,240 --> 01:27:57,880 Speaker 1: Do he Supposed brady's supposed to take a shot at The, 1851 01:27:57,960 --> 01:27:59,360 Speaker 1: jets The, bills and The dolphins. 1852 01:27:59,080 --> 01:28:00,400 Speaker 3: The rest of his life almost make. 1853 01:28:00,439 --> 01:28:05,040 Speaker 2: Nothing hold on a, second is he Not Fox sports 1854 01:28:05,439 --> 01:28:11,280 Speaker 2: LEAD nfl? Commentator are they paying him thirty seven million 1855 01:28:11,400 --> 01:28:13,559 Speaker 2: dollars a year to be an. 1856 01:28:13,479 --> 01:28:16,280 Speaker 1: Observer tons of? Change? Yeah, Right you could say that 1857 01:28:16,400 --> 01:28:18,840 Speaker 1: all you want, to, man but we, know we, Know 1858 01:28:19,000 --> 01:28:20,600 Speaker 1: And i'm a guy that had raised my hand and 1859 01:28:20,680 --> 01:28:22,040 Speaker 1: put it out there if nobody else. 1860 01:28:22,080 --> 01:28:24,760 Speaker 2: Will it's like you're A jet fan and you're and 1861 01:28:24,960 --> 01:28:27,719 Speaker 2: and he's assigned to your. Game of course that's remote. 1862 01:28:27,960 --> 01:28:32,559 Speaker 2: Possibility but let's say The jets breakthrough and he's really, well. 1863 01:28:32,520 --> 01:28:36,000 Speaker 8: Hey, listen it'll make for great. TELEVISION i have an 1864 01:28:36,080 --> 01:28:37,680 Speaker 8: issue with. That as A jets, FAN i would have an. 1865 01:28:37,720 --> 01:28:40,040 Speaker 8: Issue list would you have an event he wouldn't be 1866 01:28:40,040 --> 01:28:42,040 Speaker 8: able to help himself but take? Shots and CAN i 1867 01:28:42,120 --> 01:28:45,200 Speaker 8: say about that that jab that he took about the? Statue? 1868 01:28:45,280 --> 01:28:48,680 Speaker 8: Please everything he, said every joke he, makes whether it 1869 01:28:48,720 --> 01:28:50,320 Speaker 8: was at his, roast whether it was that this thing 1870 01:28:50,439 --> 01:28:54,240 Speaker 8: sounds so. SCRIPT i know that's always been a problem 1871 01:28:54,280 --> 01:28:56,120 Speaker 8: With he's ahead of time and he had it so. 1872 01:28:56,280 --> 01:28:59,040 Speaker 1: Ready you practiced in the mirror, Like, Oh i'm gonna Roast. 1873 01:29:00,560 --> 01:29:02,479 Speaker 3: Brady's not genuine. 1874 01:29:02,680 --> 01:29:09,600 Speaker 1: Cool, no, right he's. Not brady's not, cool like like organically, 1875 01:29:10,600 --> 01:29:12,680 Speaker 1: cool you can't manufacture to go. 1876 01:29:13,600 --> 01:29:15,519 Speaker 8: Right we we had a show with talk about it 1877 01:29:15,840 --> 01:29:17,639 Speaker 8: is like a naturally cool. Guy you can think whatever 1878 01:29:17,640 --> 01:29:19,880 Speaker 8: you want about, him but he is effortless type of 1879 01:29:20,240 --> 01:29:20,519 Speaker 8: type of. 1880 01:29:20,560 --> 01:29:23,760 Speaker 1: Personality With, brady it feels. REHEARSED i don't know about that. 1881 01:29:23,920 --> 01:29:26,080 Speaker 3: ONE i tell you WHAT i might have, Thought Aaron. 1882 01:29:26,160 --> 01:29:28,360 Speaker 1: Rodgers If rogers had taken a shot like, that it 1883 01:29:28,400 --> 01:29:28,960 Speaker 1: would it would have. 1884 01:29:28,960 --> 01:29:29,320 Speaker 4: Been on the. 1885 01:29:29,360 --> 01:29:32,360 Speaker 1: Spot it wouldn't have been something you rehearsed. Days but 1886 01:29:32,520 --> 01:29:36,439 Speaker 1: that last documentary was so. Manufactured, okay you know. What 1887 01:29:36,840 --> 01:29:41,519 Speaker 1: the documentary was Pretty Brady brady and we had this 1888 01:29:41,640 --> 01:29:44,760 Speaker 1: topic in about THE nba players DOING Nba playoffs because 1889 01:29:44,880 --> 01:29:45,839 Speaker 1: of course it Was Tyreese. 1890 01:29:45,880 --> 01:29:48,680 Speaker 3: Halliburton was he? Cool AND i was, like, yeah why 1891 01:29:48,800 --> 01:29:49,080 Speaker 3: isn't he? 1892 01:29:49,160 --> 01:29:51,000 Speaker 1: Cool the guy's hitting, game when his, shots he's doing 1893 01:29:51,240 --> 01:29:54,120 Speaker 1: the chokes on and msg point of, ready, dude that's, 1894 01:29:54,320 --> 01:29:58,680 Speaker 1: organic that's. That, yeah He's Joe burrow. Cool, yes, hell, 1895 01:29:58,800 --> 01:30:01,240 Speaker 1: yeah you have to watch core. Back, yeah well you 1896 01:30:01,320 --> 01:30:01,840 Speaker 1: gotta watch. 1897 01:30:01,880 --> 01:30:06,320 Speaker 2: This that dude if you if you're, making if you're 1898 01:30:06,400 --> 01:30:10,000 Speaker 2: trying to make a concerted effort to appear, cool there's 1899 01:30:10,040 --> 01:30:11,200 Speaker 2: nothing less cool than. 1900 01:30:11,240 --> 01:30:14,240 Speaker 1: That, no because like so so his his his attire 1901 01:30:14,320 --> 01:30:16,240 Speaker 1: has always been a big thing when you watch quarterback 1902 01:30:16,840 --> 01:30:17,560 Speaker 1: styling is his. 1903 01:30:17,680 --> 01:30:21,519 Speaker 3: Style his mom used to extravagantly dress him up as a. 1904 01:30:21,640 --> 01:30:24,200 Speaker 3: Kid so it's nothing when he got to college. 1905 01:30:23,960 --> 01:30:27,680 Speaker 2: On his draft, today right when he was sitting on 1906 01:30:27,760 --> 01:30:30,920 Speaker 2: the couch with his, parents, right a very modest, setting just. 1907 01:30:31,040 --> 01:30:33,320 Speaker 3: Chilling but he's cool, Though, no that's all WHO i 1908 01:30:33,600 --> 01:30:35,120 Speaker 3: Really my impression Is burrow's. 1909 01:30:35,160 --> 01:30:36,920 Speaker 1: Cool. Yeah, yeah he's got a he's got a. Stylist 1910 01:30:36,960 --> 01:30:39,760 Speaker 1: how MANY nfl courts, like he has a stylust that 1911 01:30:40,080 --> 01:30:41,880 Speaker 1: goes to his house with a ton of clothes and 1912 01:30:42,000 --> 01:30:42,439 Speaker 1: jewelry and. 1913 01:30:42,520 --> 01:30:44,880 Speaker 2: Stuff and the thing about with this and with, this 1914 01:30:45,240 --> 01:30:47,720 Speaker 2: the thing About Joe, burrows he's going through a lot 1915 01:30:47,760 --> 01:30:49,880 Speaker 2: of different styles. Here, YEAH i mean he's doing a 1916 01:30:49,920 --> 01:30:50,880 Speaker 2: lot of different things with his. 1917 01:30:51,000 --> 01:30:53,920 Speaker 1: Hair he, walked he walked out of fashion show In 1918 01:30:54,040 --> 01:30:57,040 Speaker 1: paris with the backout on the suit jack that's. 1919 01:30:57,920 --> 01:31:00,200 Speaker 8: You can tell what his stylist gave. Him and he 1920 01:31:00,360 --> 01:31:02,479 Speaker 8: just decides to wear on his own little stuff like. 1921 01:31:02,560 --> 01:31:03,719 Speaker 1: That it's Like Tom brady. 1922 01:31:03,800 --> 01:31:05,920 Speaker 2: Was Tom brady was the same. WAY i, Mean brady 1923 01:31:05,960 --> 01:31:09,080 Speaker 2: had so much work done on. Himself but he was also. 1924 01:31:08,960 --> 01:31:10,920 Speaker 3: At a concert In brazil with ugs, on and that's 1925 01:31:10,920 --> 01:31:12,160 Speaker 3: WHEN i, Knew, okay this guy's not. 1926 01:31:12,280 --> 01:31:13,360 Speaker 1: Cool, YEAH i mean. 1927 01:31:13,320 --> 01:31:16,439 Speaker 3: When he was In, BRAZIL i got a story for. 1928 01:31:16,600 --> 01:31:17,600 Speaker 3: YOU i got a story for. 1929 01:31:17,720 --> 01:31:20,160 Speaker 2: You so When brady was doing the ugs, thing we 1930 01:31:20,280 --> 01:31:23,120 Speaker 2: had a promotion here At Fox Sports radio where they 1931 01:31:23,200 --> 01:31:25,200 Speaker 2: asked me out of the, blue some of that what's 1932 01:31:25,240 --> 01:31:25,599 Speaker 2: your shoe? 1933 01:31:25,640 --> 01:31:26,560 Speaker 1: Size? Right SO i gave it to. 1934 01:31:26,640 --> 01:31:28,680 Speaker 2: HIM i had no idea why body? Anyway and they 1935 01:31:28,760 --> 01:31:31,560 Speaker 2: brought in some. Ugs i'm like you for, ME i, 1936 01:31:31,640 --> 01:31:35,160 Speaker 2: SAID i will never wear those. Ever you never wear. 1937 01:31:35,520 --> 01:31:38,439 Speaker 2: Ever SO i gave, him and then they gave me. 1938 01:31:38,600 --> 01:31:42,479 Speaker 2: Another SAID i got, twos AND i GET i never wore. 1939 01:31:42,400 --> 01:31:43,840 Speaker 1: Either one of. THEM i gave them. 1940 01:31:43,840 --> 01:31:46,559 Speaker 3: Away anybody interested in these ugs AND i gave them, 1941 01:31:46,560 --> 01:31:46,960 Speaker 3: away you. 1942 01:31:46,960 --> 01:31:50,760 Speaker 1: Know like Uggs tasman though they're. Great, none, okay none of, 1943 01:31:50,840 --> 01:31:53,439 Speaker 1: That Harry. Mac you can wear. Ugs we're not wearing, 1944 01:31:53,600 --> 01:31:57,200 Speaker 1: you but they're really. Comfortable, no, no, no my, daughters 1945 01:31:58,560 --> 01:32:02,320 Speaker 1: she was in. It. NO i was, like, okay see 1946 01:32:02,720 --> 01:32:06,720 Speaker 1: anyone who Seeing hartman Is i'm not gonna wears but, See, 1947 01:32:06,760 --> 01:32:08,840 Speaker 1: No i'm just talking about how you described and people 1948 01:32:08,840 --> 01:32:12,040 Speaker 1: say that about. Crocs crocs so ugly as. Hell they 1949 01:32:12,160 --> 01:32:14,200 Speaker 1: always have. Been but you know how people try to sell. You, 1950 01:32:14,560 --> 01:32:16,400 Speaker 1: wow they're. Comfortable, yeah so are my air? 1951 01:32:16,520 --> 01:32:16,960 Speaker 3: Maxes? 1952 01:32:17,600 --> 01:32:17,960 Speaker 6: Sore are my? 1953 01:32:18,080 --> 01:32:18,639 Speaker 3: Cobies they're? 1954 01:32:18,680 --> 01:32:21,840 Speaker 1: Comfortable to break them, in they're comfortable, Too uh, them, Dude, 1955 01:32:22,360 --> 01:32:25,840 Speaker 1: crocs you guys get little like buttons to decorate them. 1956 01:32:28,920 --> 01:32:30,160 Speaker 3: For the, ugs get the ugs. 1957 01:32:30,240 --> 01:32:33,400 Speaker 1: Tasmans they're like loafers and they look like house, slippers 1958 01:32:33,680 --> 01:32:36,600 Speaker 1: but they're. Fire, Okay, no the house slipper. Ones i'm with. 1959 01:32:36,680 --> 01:32:38,160 Speaker 1: You that's the ones THAT i. Have, okay all, Right, 1960 01:32:38,240 --> 01:32:41,360 Speaker 1: no these these are. Comfortable has someone that wears the 1961 01:32:41,479 --> 01:32:46,320 Speaker 1: exact same shirt Every saturday And sunday that only has 1962 01:32:46,800 --> 01:32:50,519 Speaker 1: literally a pair of workout shoes and the other, shoes that's. 1963 01:32:50,600 --> 01:32:53,040 Speaker 1: It AND i have two pairs of dress shoes AND 1964 01:32:53,120 --> 01:32:55,479 Speaker 1: i have three two suits and three shirts and three. 1965 01:32:55,600 --> 01:32:57,080 Speaker 1: Ties how do YOU i? HAVE i have? 1966 01:32:57,200 --> 01:32:58,080 Speaker 3: ONE i don't do. 1967 01:32:58,200 --> 01:33:01,920 Speaker 1: IT i admire you Because i'm a clothes you know, 1968 01:33:02,040 --> 01:33:05,280 Speaker 1: What i'm a fashion. SNEAKER i work you paddle WHEN 1969 01:33:05,320 --> 01:33:07,560 Speaker 1: i work With pat O'Brien And Sam potash was my. 1970 01:33:07,640 --> 01:33:10,920 Speaker 1: Producer these two guys were big into. FASHIONS i were 1971 01:33:11,080 --> 01:33:15,200 Speaker 1: so desperate to give me to wear something. Different i'm 1972 01:33:15,240 --> 01:33:17,800 Speaker 1: a man of. Comfort you literally have two pair of. 1973 01:33:17,920 --> 01:33:18,840 Speaker 1: Sneakers that's. 1974 01:33:18,920 --> 01:33:21,760 Speaker 2: IT i have my workout sneakers AND i have these 1975 01:33:22,760 --> 01:33:27,280 Speaker 2: these these are, that's by the, way the, WAY i 1976 01:33:27,560 --> 01:33:27,800 Speaker 2: am not. 1977 01:33:27,960 --> 01:33:30,800 Speaker 3: Bragging this is just a. FACT i have never once 1978 01:33:30,920 --> 01:33:32,320 Speaker 3: bought an article of clothing for. 1979 01:33:32,400 --> 01:33:32,759 Speaker 1: Myself. 1980 01:33:33,560 --> 01:33:37,120 Speaker 3: Ever my mom bought clothes for me WHEN i was a. 1981 01:33:37,240 --> 01:33:41,360 Speaker 1: Kid i've had, girlfriends, wives, WHATEVER i have never actually 1982 01:33:41,479 --> 01:33:45,400 Speaker 1: walked into a clothing store and gotten even a pair of. 1983 01:33:45,560 --> 01:33:48,120 Speaker 1: Underwear who bought the shirt you're wearing right? Now this 1984 01:33:48,280 --> 01:33:51,320 Speaker 1: shirt was given to me as a. Gift this was 1985 01:33:51,400 --> 01:33:53,920 Speaker 1: given to me as A birthday gift Or christmas, gift 1986 01:33:53,960 --> 01:33:55,960 Speaker 1: one or the. Other you're such a spoiled. Raut by the, 1987 01:33:55,960 --> 01:33:58,040 Speaker 1: way what do you, mean spoil? BRAT i don't. 1988 01:33:58,080 --> 01:33:59,800 Speaker 3: SPOIL i think it's kind of pimping to be. 1989 01:34:01,200 --> 01:34:03,280 Speaker 1: Gest you had the Honey dipsy had the honey dips 1990 01:34:03,479 --> 01:34:05,200 Speaker 1: draping you girls love to dress. 1991 01:34:05,320 --> 01:34:07,200 Speaker 3: Me, yeah you had the honey. Dips draping. YOU i 1992 01:34:07,280 --> 01:34:09,439 Speaker 3: think that's kind of. Think, HEY i WISH i lived that, 1993 01:34:09,560 --> 01:34:10,920 Speaker 3: life don't, know mind bumby at. 1994 01:34:11,000 --> 01:34:14,040 Speaker 1: THAT i got to buy my own all, Right so, yeah, 1995 01:34:14,160 --> 01:34:16,080 Speaker 1: okay coming up on the other, SIDE i don't know 1996 01:34:16,120 --> 01:34:18,719 Speaker 1: if he dresses, himself BUT i know, this he knows 1997 01:34:18,800 --> 01:34:22,280 Speaker 1: THE nfl as, well if not better than ninety nine 1998 01:34:22,320 --> 01:34:24,559 Speaker 1: point nine percent of the people out. 1999 01:34:24,600 --> 01:34:27,439 Speaker 2: There he Is Adam. Kaplan he is our. Insider he's 2000 01:34:27,479 --> 01:34:30,479 Speaker 2: hanging around all THE nfl training. Camps he will join us. 2001 01:34:30,560 --> 01:34:35,720 Speaker 2: Next this Is Fox Sports, Saturday Steve harvin AND Bj 2002 01:34:35,920 --> 01:34:39,880 Speaker 2: Husky Here Fox Sports. Saturday be sure to check Out 2003 01:34:40,000 --> 01:34:41,640 Speaker 2: Fox Sports radios. 2004 01:34:43,200 --> 01:34:44,800 Speaker 1: YouTube. Channel yeah a. 2005 01:34:44,880 --> 01:34:47,400 Speaker 2: Ton of great videos of many of Our Fox Sports radio. 2006 01:34:47,479 --> 01:34:50,400 Speaker 2: Shows just Search Fox Sports radio on YouTube see a 2007 01:34:50,400 --> 01:34:52,600 Speaker 2: whole bunch of video highlights from our, shows and be 2008 01:34:52,680 --> 01:34:56,280 Speaker 2: sure to subscribe so you'll always have instant access to 2009 01:34:56,439 --> 01:35:00,800 Speaker 2: Our Fox Sports radio videos on. YouTube all, right we 2010 01:35:01,000 --> 01:35:04,200 Speaker 2: are very much immersed IN nfl talk today for good. 2011 01:35:04,240 --> 01:35:07,320 Speaker 2: Reason we got preseason games going, on and before you know, 2012 01:35:07,400 --> 01:35:09,360 Speaker 2: what the real games will. Begin and the man that 2013 01:35:09,479 --> 01:35:12,960 Speaker 2: will give us all his insight as he tours training 2014 01:35:13,040 --> 01:35:16,960 Speaker 2: camps across The National Football league landscape joins us right. 2015 01:35:17,000 --> 01:35:21,519 Speaker 2: Now he is OUR nfl, Insider Adam. Kaplan, ADAM i 2016 01:35:21,600 --> 01:35:24,280 Speaker 2: hope you have some extended time because we have extended time. 2017 01:35:24,360 --> 01:35:27,080 Speaker 2: Today we will have a lot of time to cover 2018 01:35:27,120 --> 01:35:28,600 Speaker 2: a lot of. Things BUT i want to ask you 2019 01:35:28,680 --> 01:35:31,400 Speaker 2: a little overview question before we get into the nitty. 2020 01:35:31,439 --> 01:35:34,960 Speaker 2: Gritty so you've been COVERING nfl training camps for a long. 2021 01:35:35,080 --> 01:35:37,519 Speaker 2: Time i've been AROUND nfl training camps for a long, 2022 01:35:37,640 --> 01:35:41,520 Speaker 2: time and we know they just keep reducing the workload 2023 01:35:41,640 --> 01:35:46,080 Speaker 2: in these training camps is less more in terms of 2024 01:35:46,200 --> 01:35:49,799 Speaker 2: getting a read on how things are progressing for, teams 2025 01:35:49,960 --> 01:35:52,639 Speaker 2: or maybe the input that you're getting from people within 2026 01:35:52,720 --> 01:35:55,680 Speaker 2: the organizations talking about you, know what progress are you? 2027 01:35:55,800 --> 01:35:58,160 Speaker 2: Seeing you, know give me some inside word of what 2028 01:35:58,280 --> 01:36:02,080 Speaker 2: you're seeing in training. Camp is it easier or harder 2029 01:36:02,880 --> 01:36:06,600 Speaker 2: now that we're getting actually less production got getting in 2030 01:36:07,240 --> 01:36:08,240 Speaker 2: uh during these training? 2031 01:36:08,320 --> 01:36:09,240 Speaker 1: Camps all? 2032 01:36:09,280 --> 01:36:10,960 Speaker 4: Right, So, steve if it really started for me on 2033 01:36:11,040 --> 01:36:13,280 Speaker 4: that question in twenty eleven where we came out of 2034 01:36:13,400 --> 01:36:17,960 Speaker 4: lockout and the players wanted less practice, time they wanted 2035 01:36:18,040 --> 01:36:21,080 Speaker 4: less of an off. Season so talking to coaches and 2036 01:36:21,160 --> 01:36:23,760 Speaker 4: far off the dectudes and really more coaches about. It 2037 01:36:24,400 --> 01:36:26,799 Speaker 4: they hadn't learned how to coach. Better they had adjust 2038 01:36:26,840 --> 01:36:29,800 Speaker 4: the way they did. It the. Practices you could still 2039 01:36:29,840 --> 01:36:32,320 Speaker 4: do it to after our, practice but you. Can't there's 2040 01:36:32,360 --> 01:36:37,920 Speaker 4: no hitting, basically but it's not as, intense and coaches felt, 2041 01:36:37,960 --> 01:36:40,320 Speaker 4: like you know, WHAT i had to become a better. 2042 01:36:40,439 --> 01:36:44,360 Speaker 4: Coach so, yeah it's definitely. Different you rarely see a 2043 01:36:44,439 --> 01:36:47,760 Speaker 4: practice over two hours and their Letter, steve it's a good. 2044 01:36:47,840 --> 01:36:51,120 Speaker 4: Question coaches have had to do it, differently and by the, 2045 01:36:51,120 --> 01:36:54,200 Speaker 4: way they're not allowed to coach at all until after the. 2046 01:36:54,280 --> 01:36:58,080 Speaker 4: Draft you're not you can't really talk strategy by THE 2047 01:36:58,240 --> 01:37:02,240 Speaker 4: cba until after the. Draft so it's been an adjustment for. 2048 01:37:02,360 --> 01:37:04,680 Speaker 4: Coaches they don't love, it but they're used to. It 2049 01:37:04,720 --> 01:37:06,320 Speaker 4: they don't really to play like they used. To, boy 2050 01:37:07,080 --> 01:37:09,640 Speaker 4: it bothered them coming out of that lockout after the 2051 01:37:09,680 --> 01:37:12,200 Speaker 4: NEW cb in twenty eleven and then the next one 2052 01:37:12,240 --> 01:37:14,960 Speaker 4: in twenty. Twenty it's just been an adjustment to move 2053 01:37:15,000 --> 01:37:16,120 Speaker 4: this forward. Here that's really what's. 2054 01:37:16,160 --> 01:37:19,639 Speaker 3: Happened adam Cavinoll i was a. Pleasure V. J Vernond 2055 01:37:19,680 --> 01:37:21,519 Speaker 3: husky here man training camp. 2056 01:37:21,640 --> 01:37:23,840 Speaker 1: Football this is, It man is the best time of 2057 01:37:23,880 --> 01:37:26,000 Speaker 1: the year and the best thing to talk about the 2058 01:37:26,040 --> 01:37:27,200 Speaker 1: biggest thing is all about was always the. 2059 01:37:27,240 --> 01:37:29,240 Speaker 3: Quarterbacks quarterbacks, says there's the pretty. 2060 01:37:29,000 --> 01:37:31,240 Speaker 1: Boy of the. Crew And i'll just throw a simple 2061 01:37:31,320 --> 01:37:33,479 Speaker 1: question to you last, night what did you think of my, 2062 01:37:33,600 --> 01:37:36,280 Speaker 1: gosh You Dora sanders last? Night and just your takeaway 2063 01:37:36,360 --> 01:37:38,360 Speaker 1: things you may be. Hearing the chemistry looked like he, 2064 01:37:38,400 --> 01:37:40,240 Speaker 1: had what his team and just the way he played last. 2065 01:37:40,320 --> 01:37:42,360 Speaker 4: NIGHT i, MEAN i hear there are two things that 2066 01:37:42,400 --> 01:37:44,240 Speaker 4: are possitive that that you don't need to watch else 2067 01:37:44,240 --> 01:37:47,519 Speaker 4: twenty two like you. Coach by the, way coaches don't. 2068 01:37:47,560 --> 01:37:49,960 Speaker 4: Coach they don't great OFF tv the. Coach they great 2069 01:37:50,000 --> 01:37:51,640 Speaker 4: off of what the tape looks, like which they did. 2070 01:37:51,680 --> 01:37:57,360 Speaker 4: Today but on the, road no, turnovers no bone head 2071 01:37:57,400 --> 01:38:00,400 Speaker 4: plays like when you're a. Rookie and by the, way 2072 01:38:00,400 --> 01:38:03,680 Speaker 4: he was playing with the third team guys he had 2073 01:38:03,720 --> 01:38:05,240 Speaker 4: worked with in training, camp so that was a good. 2074 01:38:05,320 --> 01:38:09,240 Speaker 4: Thing now he had a good scramble. Nout do we 2075 01:38:09,360 --> 01:38:10,880 Speaker 4: know did he where guy's? 2076 01:38:10,920 --> 01:38:11,640 Speaker 1: Open did he? 2077 01:38:11,720 --> 01:38:13,240 Speaker 4: Hit did he not throw it when he should? HAVE 2078 01:38:13,880 --> 01:38:16,760 Speaker 4: i can't answer. That that's off of coaches. Teeth that's that. 2079 01:38:16,880 --> 01:38:20,479 Speaker 4: STUFF i rarely go crazy after a preseason. Game BUT 2080 01:38:21,280 --> 01:38:25,000 Speaker 4: dj the take away no. TURNOVERS i couldn't tell if 2081 01:38:25,040 --> 01:38:26,880 Speaker 4: he played well or. NOT i don't know. THAT i 2082 01:38:26,920 --> 01:38:29,320 Speaker 4: DON'T i don't grade off of. HER i don't gather 2083 01:38:29,400 --> 01:38:32,600 Speaker 4: information From twitter or what social media. Thinks for the 2084 01:38:32,640 --> 01:38:35,320 Speaker 4: media thinks a great. Buy what teams tell. Me and 2085 01:38:35,360 --> 01:38:37,360 Speaker 4: they were watching the tape today Out i'll be with 2086 01:38:37,479 --> 01:38:39,640 Speaker 4: The browns this. Week i'll have a better idea of 2087 01:38:39,680 --> 01:38:42,800 Speaker 4: actually how well or not not Well sanders. Played BUT 2088 01:38:43,439 --> 01:38:45,880 Speaker 4: i like. That by the, way The panthers should also. 2089 01:38:46,000 --> 01:38:48,679 Speaker 4: Know The panthers didn't play all their. Starters they played 2090 01:38:48,680 --> 01:38:49,680 Speaker 4: over half of the starts of the. 2091 01:38:49,680 --> 01:38:49,880 Speaker 6: Game. 2092 01:38:50,000 --> 01:38:52,840 Speaker 4: Yep the Overall to take away, this no bone had 2093 01:38:52,880 --> 01:38:54,400 Speaker 4: played no, turnovers and you'll grow from. 2094 01:38:54,400 --> 01:38:57,040 Speaker 2: That so last, TIME i was watching much of This 2095 01:38:57,520 --> 01:39:02,000 Speaker 2: Patriots commander's, game and you, know based on the final, 2096 01:39:02,080 --> 01:39:04,720 Speaker 2: score it's, like, Hey patriots are on their way to 2097 01:39:04,760 --> 01:39:05,720 Speaker 2: Another Super bowl. 2098 01:39:05,800 --> 01:39:09,519 Speaker 3: WIN i, mean The commanders were playing touch football out. 2099 01:39:09,560 --> 01:39:13,200 Speaker 2: There but that, Aside i'm Watching Mike vrabel and you, 2100 01:39:13,280 --> 01:39:15,439 Speaker 2: know in, retrospect he probably should have been hired a 2101 01:39:15,520 --> 01:39:18,160 Speaker 2: year ago By New. England may it was just not 2102 01:39:18,320 --> 01:39:20,200 Speaker 2: up to the. Job doesn't mean that he can't do 2103 01:39:20,280 --> 01:39:23,360 Speaker 2: it down the, road but under the. Circumstances it was very, 2104 01:39:23,439 --> 01:39:26,840 Speaker 2: difficult difficult. Situation but the, way you, know after the, 2105 01:39:26,920 --> 01:39:31,639 Speaker 2: Game vrabel was asked, about you, Know Drake may's. Mistake 2106 01:39:32,320 --> 01:39:34,840 Speaker 2: you know it was it was a mistake and it you, 2107 01:39:34,920 --> 01:39:38,080 Speaker 2: know and granted's a preseason, game but he did not, 2108 01:39:38,320 --> 01:39:42,040 Speaker 2: hesitate even though he joked with the the reporter who 2109 01:39:42,120 --> 01:39:44,800 Speaker 2: basically asked the question and answered the. Question he, goes 2110 01:39:44,840 --> 01:39:46,960 Speaker 2: you're going to ask and answer your own question type of. 2111 01:39:47,040 --> 01:39:50,439 Speaker 2: Thing rabel's a no nonsense, guy and he made it 2112 01:39:50,520 --> 01:39:51,640 Speaker 2: clear we can't have. 2113 01:39:51,840 --> 01:39:52,680 Speaker 1: That we just. 2114 01:39:52,800 --> 01:39:54,559 Speaker 2: CAN'T i, mean If Drake may is going to be our, 2115 01:39:54,640 --> 01:39:57,960 Speaker 2: quarterback we can't have him have a brain fart like 2116 01:39:58,040 --> 01:40:02,599 Speaker 2: that during AN nfl, Game which got me, thinking how, 2117 01:40:02,800 --> 01:40:07,760 Speaker 2: quickly if it's, possible Can rabel turn things around In New. 2118 01:40:07,840 --> 01:40:10,160 Speaker 1: England all, right a couple of things. 2119 01:40:10,200 --> 01:40:12,160 Speaker 4: Here let's start With Drake. May so the knock On 2120 01:40:12,320 --> 01:40:15,320 Speaker 4: Drake may was At North carolina try to be a, 2121 01:40:15,400 --> 01:40:20,599 Speaker 4: superhero trying to make the big. Play just he thought 2122 01:40:20,640 --> 01:40:23,759 Speaker 4: he could do a, lot and he needed to be coached. 2123 01:40:23,800 --> 01:40:25,840 Speaker 4: Hard he needed to play with better. Discipline and by 2124 01:40:25,880 --> 01:40:29,439 Speaker 4: the way the new staff talking to, them they thought 2125 01:40:29,479 --> 01:40:31,479 Speaker 4: his tape last year was way better than they. Stated 2126 01:40:32,120 --> 01:40:34,960 Speaker 4: they watched his tape when they were with another, team 2127 01:40:35,320 --> 01:40:37,439 Speaker 4: And david love his. COLLEGE i don't they love the 2128 01:40:37,520 --> 01:40:40,320 Speaker 4: state as much as they really were at press with 2129 01:40:40,520 --> 01:40:42,280 Speaker 4: what happened last. Year so it's a little bit of head. 2130 01:40:42,280 --> 01:40:45,320 Speaker 4: Schedule but see the play you talked about is a 2131 01:40:45,439 --> 01:40:47,960 Speaker 4: president sample, like you got to do the right, thing, 2132 01:40:48,040 --> 01:40:50,439 Speaker 4: Man take what's, there don't try to do too. Much so, 2133 01:40:51,120 --> 01:40:53,640 Speaker 4: yeah and very. Well coaches, hard with a lot of. 2134 01:40:53,720 --> 01:40:57,560 Speaker 4: Discipline and now WHAT i find funny is the oddsmakers 2135 01:40:57,600 --> 01:41:00,800 Speaker 4: are on this. Team they the. Over uther'll say the, half, 2136 01:41:01,040 --> 01:41:03,880 Speaker 4: yeah and if you like, over you're gonna pay a 2137 01:41:03,920 --> 01:41:06,400 Speaker 4: little bit of a. Price, tho they clearly think that 2138 01:41:06,479 --> 01:41:09,400 Speaker 4: they're gonna be winning a. Record that's. THAT i. Know 2139 01:41:09,520 --> 01:41:11,759 Speaker 4: it's not a very good. Division The dolphins are a downward, 2140 01:41:11,840 --> 01:41:15,080 Speaker 4: slide you, know The bills are, Elite jets are are 2141 01:41:15,160 --> 01:41:18,360 Speaker 4: you know are are are on a. Rebuild so, YEAH 2142 01:41:18,479 --> 01:41:20,240 Speaker 4: i think it's a little bit too much for. ME 2143 01:41:20,320 --> 01:41:22,560 Speaker 4: i see six or, SEVEN i don't see nine or. 2144 01:41:22,640 --> 01:41:25,720 Speaker 1: Ten Fox Sports saturday Were Hartman husky right now we 2145 01:41:25,800 --> 01:41:29,080 Speaker 1: had on the Great Adam KAPLAN nfl, Insider, Alam i'm 2146 01:41:29,080 --> 01:41:31,720 Speaker 1: gonna stick with. Quarterbacks two young guys that were rookies last. 2147 01:41:31,760 --> 01:41:33,240 Speaker 1: Year one got in late in the, year the other 2148 01:41:33,320 --> 01:41:35,439 Speaker 1: one had to work through an. Injury AND i just 2149 01:41:35,479 --> 01:41:37,920 Speaker 1: want to see what your thoughts are About Michael Pennix 2150 01:41:38,000 --> 01:41:40,639 Speaker 1: junior AND jj. McCarthy what do you expect from these 2151 01:41:40,720 --> 01:41:43,519 Speaker 1: two young quarterbacks and can they take the type of 2152 01:41:44,040 --> 01:41:46,519 Speaker 1: stamp on their career and put people on notice the 2153 01:41:46,600 --> 01:41:49,040 Speaker 1: Way Bod nicks in the Way Jayden daniels did last. 2154 01:41:49,080 --> 01:41:52,840 Speaker 4: Year, yeah and you know what McCarthy is because this 2155 01:41:52,960 --> 01:41:54,960 Speaker 4: is essentially his rookie. Season he got hurt against The 2156 01:41:55,040 --> 01:41:57,280 Speaker 4: raiders last year where he played, well very, well and 2157 01:41:57,320 --> 01:41:59,800 Speaker 4: that's that opening preseason. Game but all he could do 2158 01:41:59,920 --> 01:42:02,479 Speaker 4: is to take metal. Reps so he's had enough down. 2159 01:42:02,560 --> 01:42:05,960 Speaker 4: Camp this Is i'm glad that he. Played that's The 2160 01:42:06,040 --> 01:42:08,360 Speaker 4: texans today that that was a good, thing just to 2161 01:42:08,439 --> 01:42:10,360 Speaker 4: get over that that metal heart role of you, know 2162 01:42:10,520 --> 01:42:13,479 Speaker 4: he got hurt last year in that first. Game he's 2163 01:42:13,520 --> 01:42:16,320 Speaker 4: got a ways to go. Now you know what's unfortunate 2164 01:42:16,520 --> 01:42:19,320 Speaker 4: Is Duran, addison the number two, receivers suspended for three 2165 01:42:19,360 --> 01:42:21,320 Speaker 4: games at the start of the. Season so you're not 2166 01:42:21,400 --> 01:42:23,439 Speaker 4: gonna have early on that that that does concern. Me 2167 01:42:23,920 --> 01:42:25,439 Speaker 4: who's the other quarterback you asked. 2168 01:42:25,200 --> 01:42:27,120 Speaker 3: About michael down In? 2169 01:42:27,160 --> 01:42:29,000 Speaker 1: Atlanta, hey, yeah, YEAH i like. 2170 01:42:29,120 --> 01:42:33,080 Speaker 4: Him he's a pure pocket, passer the great. Arm they're 2171 01:42:33,160 --> 01:42:36,960 Speaker 4: loaded on, offense and, look you Got Kirk cousins as the. 2172 01:42:37,000 --> 01:42:39,599 Speaker 4: Backup The cousins know's the. Deal he despite being paid 2173 01:42:39,600 --> 01:42:43,639 Speaker 4: over thirty, million he's the. Backup it's, crazy But Michael 2174 01:42:43,680 --> 01:42:46,040 Speaker 4: pennis could spin. IT i love WHAT i saw from 2175 01:42:46,080 --> 01:42:49,519 Speaker 4: The Senior bowl two years, ago prior to his rookie. 2176 01:42:49,560 --> 01:42:52,840 Speaker 4: Season he looked really, good really good. Leader now the 2177 01:42:52,960 --> 01:42:57,200 Speaker 4: knock on HIM vj is big injury history through, college 2178 01:42:57,280 --> 01:42:59,559 Speaker 4: playing in a couple of. Schools you know you're worried about, 2179 01:42:59,600 --> 01:43:02,280 Speaker 4: That but he's got an. ARM i like this, player 2180 01:43:02,320 --> 01:43:04,280 Speaker 4: AND i like what's around. Him he will wind up 2181 01:43:04,320 --> 01:43:06,800 Speaker 4: elevating the talent around. Him they just have to be a, 2182 01:43:06,880 --> 01:43:07,599 Speaker 4: patient which they will. 2183 01:43:07,640 --> 01:43:11,160 Speaker 2: Be, yeah we had this conversation earlier by which one 2184 01:43:11,200 --> 01:43:13,519 Speaker 2: of those two guys will be the next breakout quarterback 2185 01:43:13,560 --> 01:43:15,360 Speaker 2: after what we saw With daniels The nicks a year. 2186 01:43:15,400 --> 01:43:18,800 Speaker 2: Ago i'm leaning panics because of that. DIVISION i think 2187 01:43:18,840 --> 01:43:20,800 Speaker 2: that he might be able to do more. Damage BUT 2188 01:43:21,160 --> 01:43:23,320 Speaker 2: i agree TO i MEAN. J. J McCarthy is surrounded 2189 01:43:23,320 --> 01:43:26,960 Speaker 2: by such great talent In, minnesota he should have success as. Well, 2190 01:43:27,479 --> 01:43:30,240 Speaker 2: again we're talking With Adam, kaplan OUR nfl. Insider, So, 2191 01:43:30,320 --> 01:43:30,960 Speaker 2: adam where have you? 2192 01:43:31,080 --> 01:43:32,160 Speaker 1: Been give us a little. 2193 01:43:33,520 --> 01:43:35,680 Speaker 3: Where have you been hanging? Out and give us some 2194 01:43:36,040 --> 01:43:37,320 Speaker 3: rid on some of the camps you've been. 2195 01:43:37,360 --> 01:43:41,040 Speaker 4: In, Yeah so you, Know eagles a, bunch and Then 2196 01:43:41,280 --> 01:43:44,840 Speaker 4: i've got and then a couple Like baltimore at a 2197 01:43:44,880 --> 01:43:47,840 Speaker 4: crossover with. Them i'm gonna see The steelers the sweat. 2198 01:43:47,920 --> 01:43:50,680 Speaker 4: BACK i Think i'm going to see ten, teams at least. 2199 01:43:50,760 --> 01:43:56,600 Speaker 4: Eight i've got Jetson giants On, tuesday possibly The commanders On. 2200 01:43:56,640 --> 01:43:59,559 Speaker 4: Monday that's going to be a last finite. Decision i've 2201 01:43:59,600 --> 01:44:03,560 Speaker 4: got The Browns Eagles, wednesday and Then i've got The 2202 01:44:03,720 --> 01:44:06,760 Speaker 4: Bucks steelers On thursday for a joint for a joint. 2203 01:44:06,800 --> 01:44:10,720 Speaker 4: Practice the, Weekend i've got a. Couple More so by 2204 01:44:10,760 --> 01:44:13,160 Speaker 4: the time we get the Next, SUNDAY i should have 2205 01:44:13,200 --> 01:44:17,960 Speaker 4: seen ten or twelve. Teams one of the things with The, 2206 01:44:18,080 --> 01:44:20,000 Speaker 4: colts by the, way or who had the joint with 2207 01:44:20,160 --> 01:44:25,120 Speaker 4: the with The ravens this, week What i'm very concerned 2208 01:44:25,120 --> 01:44:28,519 Speaker 4: about their quarterback Position Daniel jones signed a backup, deal 2209 01:44:29,160 --> 01:44:32,200 Speaker 4: pretty enhanced backup, deal but it's a backup. Deal i'm 2210 01:44:32,240 --> 01:44:34,519 Speaker 4: not convinced right now that they have an answer at. 2211 01:44:34,560 --> 01:44:39,000 Speaker 4: Quarterback richardson's injuries, minor but it's a right finger, injury 2212 01:44:39,040 --> 01:44:42,000 Speaker 4: but he's gonna be. Fine i'm just if you're A colts, 2213 01:44:42,040 --> 01:44:45,320 Speaker 4: FAN i just i'd be wirried right now about their quarterback. 2214 01:44:45,320 --> 01:44:49,280 Speaker 2: Position, WELL I i CAUGHT vj, blindside and WHEN I i, 2215 01:44:50,200 --> 01:44:52,320 Speaker 2: WAS i was, SAYING i got a name of a 2216 01:44:53,000 --> 01:44:55,559 Speaker 2: player that ruined his franchise more than any other. 2217 01:44:55,720 --> 01:44:57,920 Speaker 1: Player AND i came out of it AND i, said 2218 01:44:57,920 --> 01:45:00,479 Speaker 1: It's Andrew. LUCK i Mean Andrew. 2219 01:45:00,600 --> 01:45:04,479 Speaker 2: Luck he was twenty nine years, old were right before the, 2220 01:45:04,600 --> 01:45:07,280 Speaker 2: season after a comeback year in which he led him 2221 01:45:07,320 --> 01:45:11,160 Speaker 2: to the. Playoffs right, now Assuming Daniel jones will start 2222 01:45:11,200 --> 01:45:14,800 Speaker 2: a game for The, colts that'll be eleven starting quarterbacks 2223 01:45:14,840 --> 01:45:19,000 Speaker 2: that they've had eleven since twenty. Nineteen play quarterbacks has 2224 01:45:19,000 --> 01:45:21,200 Speaker 2: start at least one game for The. Colts you, know 2225 01:45:21,320 --> 01:45:23,680 Speaker 2: it started With, brissett and he Had, rivers and they 2226 01:45:23,720 --> 01:45:24,600 Speaker 2: Had Carson. 2227 01:45:24,280 --> 01:45:27,840 Speaker 3: Wins they Had Matt Ryan, Gardner. Minshew The Anthony. 2228 01:45:27,560 --> 01:45:32,080 Speaker 2: Richardson situation nobody ruined a team more Than Andrew luck did. 2229 01:45:32,280 --> 01:45:34,519 Speaker 2: Nobody and by the, way right now he would be 2230 01:45:34,600 --> 01:45:37,560 Speaker 2: going into his fourteenth season in THE. Nfl but he 2231 01:45:37,640 --> 01:45:41,240 Speaker 2: didn't just. Quit he quit right before the season began 2232 01:45:41,600 --> 01:45:42,040 Speaker 2: in twenty. 2233 01:45:42,160 --> 01:45:43,879 Speaker 1: Nineteen, yeah it's a tough. 2234 01:45:43,760 --> 01:45:46,479 Speaker 4: Deal A Chris baller the general, Manager let's be honest about. 2235 01:45:46,520 --> 01:45:50,599 Speaker 4: It it's been very mixed for him And Jim. Marsey 2236 01:45:50,880 --> 01:45:54,040 Speaker 4: it's passed. Away you, know he hired him in twenty. 2237 01:45:54,120 --> 01:45:58,760 Speaker 4: Seventeen remember The josh McDaniel. Situation. Yep so it's been very. 2238 01:45:58,800 --> 01:46:02,960 Speaker 4: Disappointing that's that's On Area balloch. Simple it's not kind of. 2239 01:46:03,040 --> 01:46:05,560 Speaker 4: Right you can't blame him For andrew luck. Retirement but 2240 01:46:06,400 --> 01:46:09,559 Speaker 4: he rolled with don To Nancy, richardson who gotta it's 2241 01:46:09,600 --> 01:46:11,680 Speaker 4: funny that he played actually pretty well to. Start then 2242 01:46:11,720 --> 01:46:15,479 Speaker 4: it was downhill maturity issue when you've got if you 2243 01:46:15,560 --> 01:46:18,479 Speaker 4: know this covering The, raiders when you're with The, raiders 2244 01:46:19,040 --> 01:46:20,840 Speaker 4: when you don't get it, right a, quarterback you can 2245 01:46:21,120 --> 01:46:21,479 Speaker 4: connect the. 2246 01:46:21,520 --> 01:46:25,519 Speaker 1: Beep, ADAM i want to throw a quarterback at. YOU 2247 01:46:25,600 --> 01:46:28,160 Speaker 1: i Asked steve this earlier in the, Show Joe. BURROW 2248 01:46:28,920 --> 01:46:31,040 Speaker 1: i WOULD i would ARGUE i would argue he could 2249 01:46:31,040 --> 01:46:32,960 Speaker 1: be the second best quarterback in. Football things Saying Pat 2250 01:46:33,000 --> 01:46:34,760 Speaker 1: mahomes is out of respect him because of What Pat 2251 01:46:34,800 --> 01:46:38,800 Speaker 1: mahomes has. Accomplished but, Man joe's right. THERE i, mean 2252 01:46:38,920 --> 01:46:42,479 Speaker 1: this guy just has. Everything but they they the franchise 2253 01:46:42,520 --> 01:46:44,840 Speaker 1: doesn't run very. Well he's got a star. Receiver they 2254 01:46:44,920 --> 01:46:48,240 Speaker 1: got to win thirty, eight thirty five most. Weeks man 2255 01:46:48,720 --> 01:46:51,679 Speaker 1: could he be when it's all said and? Done could 2256 01:46:51,720 --> 01:46:54,280 Speaker 1: he end up being this Era's Damn. 2257 01:46:54,360 --> 01:46:58,760 Speaker 4: Marino that's a great name Because mareno never won a 2258 01:46:58,840 --> 01:47:01,760 Speaker 4: ring and he was great The all Of. Fame he 2259 01:47:01,840 --> 01:47:03,679 Speaker 4: got in in his second year and never got. Back 2260 01:47:03,800 --> 01:47:07,600 Speaker 4: so that's you know, what that's. Fair, Now, yes The 2261 01:47:07,720 --> 01:47:11,040 Speaker 4: dolphins defenses in the eighties and really when in the 2262 01:47:11,120 --> 01:47:13,519 Speaker 4: latter stage Of dan's career weren't very. Good and they 2263 01:47:13,560 --> 01:47:17,120 Speaker 4: which is a passing. Offense but at times last year 2264 01:47:17,120 --> 01:47:19,679 Speaker 4: OF vj The bengal defense that are Lou Ana romo 2265 01:47:19,800 --> 01:47:21,360 Speaker 4: was not a defense when where The colts is not, 2266 01:47:21,479 --> 01:47:26,280 Speaker 4: competitive that's come From puff's talking about. It it's they're 2267 01:47:26,320 --> 01:47:28,400 Speaker 4: not very, talented particularly in the back. End, look they 2268 01:47:28,439 --> 01:47:31,040 Speaker 4: got to Get Trey henderson's deal. Done nay one way 2269 01:47:31,080 --> 01:47:33,559 Speaker 4: or the other and looked Sim, howbard the other star 2270 01:47:33,640 --> 01:47:38,479 Speaker 4: IN dm he he retired, suddenly And Miles, murphy who 2271 01:47:38,520 --> 01:47:40,160 Speaker 4: was a first round pick two years, ago has not 2272 01:47:40,240 --> 01:47:43,240 Speaker 4: done anything, yet so they got. Problems you're, right, man 2273 01:47:43,280 --> 01:47:45,840 Speaker 4: to bring that. Up it's it's it's certainly a very 2274 01:47:45,880 --> 01:47:48,400 Speaker 4: fair way to look at. It they're fun to. WATCH 2275 01:47:48,479 --> 01:47:51,320 Speaker 4: i mean that game Against philly to night was. Right 2276 01:47:51,479 --> 01:47:53,000 Speaker 4: it was a fun. Game it was a fun watch 2277 01:47:53,040 --> 01:47:56,360 Speaker 4: if you like. Offense AS i, said an x and 2278 01:47:56,400 --> 01:47:59,240 Speaker 4: The eagles didn't play at the defensive. Starters but, overall 2279 01:47:59,240 --> 01:48:02,800 Speaker 4: you're absolutely, right and there's a reason why they don't 2280 01:48:02,800 --> 01:48:04,400 Speaker 4: win that they think it's The Super. Bowl LET'S i 2281 01:48:04,479 --> 01:48:07,840 Speaker 4: forget four years, Ago, barrow but why have they not 2282 01:48:08,240 --> 01:48:09,600 Speaker 4: been good since other defense is not? 2283 01:48:09,600 --> 01:48:14,000 Speaker 2: Competitive all, Right So Rashawn slater signs the richest contract 2284 01:48:14,040 --> 01:48:16,360 Speaker 2: for an offensive lineman and the season ends and Employe 2285 01:48:16,640 --> 01:48:19,360 Speaker 2: and AS i was telling, everyone The Dean spannos curse is, 2286 01:48:19,400 --> 01:48:22,040 Speaker 2: alive and, well if people don't understand. 2287 01:48:21,760 --> 01:48:22,160 Speaker 8: This it. 2288 01:48:22,320 --> 01:48:25,519 Speaker 1: Is it is a real. Thing we've seen time and time. 2289 01:48:25,560 --> 01:48:27,960 Speaker 2: Again every time it looks like The chargers will take 2290 01:48:28,040 --> 01:48:30,960 Speaker 2: a step, forward they take a step. Back injuries have 2291 01:48:31,040 --> 01:48:33,000 Speaker 2: been a big part of it over the. Years it 2292 01:48:33,120 --> 01:48:35,320 Speaker 2: has to be a. Curse i'm convinced of. That and 2293 01:48:36,120 --> 01:48:38,719 Speaker 2: you know HOW i feel About Dean. Spanos that, Said 2294 01:48:39,360 --> 01:48:42,280 Speaker 2: Jim harbaugh obviously is the kind of coach that. Understands, 2295 01:48:42,320 --> 01:48:44,519 Speaker 2: hey you, know we even had him last. 2296 01:48:44,600 --> 01:48:45,040 Speaker 1: NIGHT i was DOING. 2297 01:48:45,080 --> 01:48:46,960 Speaker 2: Tv he, said you, know injuries are part of the, game, 2298 01:48:47,080 --> 01:48:48,840 Speaker 2: RIGHT i, mean that's all he, says injuries are part 2299 01:48:48,840 --> 01:48:48,960 Speaker 2: of the. 2300 01:48:49,040 --> 01:48:50,000 Speaker 1: Game next man. 2301 01:48:50,120 --> 01:48:55,280 Speaker 2: In but how much does The Rashawn slater injury affect 2302 01:48:55,560 --> 01:48:59,120 Speaker 2: The chargers offense from what you, See, well it's a. 2303 01:48:59,200 --> 01:49:01,759 Speaker 4: Problem now know all almost certainly be their left. TACKLE 2304 01:49:02,520 --> 01:49:05,760 Speaker 4: i REPORT i put this out last year during the, 2305 01:49:05,840 --> 01:49:09,280 Speaker 4: draft the twenty the twenty four, draft that The tens 2306 01:49:09,320 --> 01:49:11,240 Speaker 4: are gonna Draft joel to get their left, tackle and 2307 01:49:11,280 --> 01:49:14,800 Speaker 4: The charges beat them to. It so what they'll do 2308 01:49:14,960 --> 01:49:19,559 Speaker 4: is they'll most likely move all to left. Tackle they've 2309 01:49:19,600 --> 01:49:21,760 Speaker 4: got an answered right, tackle but it's a it's a 2310 01:49:21,760 --> 01:49:26,479 Speaker 4: step down Because slayers an elite left. Tackle That Trey 2311 01:49:26,560 --> 01:49:29,280 Speaker 4: pipkins will be the right tackle most, Likely so they'll 2312 01:49:29,320 --> 01:49:32,040 Speaker 4: have an answer and it won't be Bad now for 2313 01:49:32,160 --> 01:49:35,760 Speaker 4: those of, us And i'm raising my hand who were 2314 01:49:35,920 --> 01:49:38,800 Speaker 4: considering picking the charges to win the. Division they never 2315 01:49:38,880 --> 01:49:40,599 Speaker 4: do against The, chiefs and no one beats them. Out 2316 01:49:42,560 --> 01:49:45,040 Speaker 4: i'm certainly not going to do it now because it 2317 01:49:45,160 --> 01:49:48,800 Speaker 4: hurts their death, too because now you've got to start 2318 01:49:48,960 --> 01:49:52,479 Speaker 4: someone else at right. Tackle so their depth, ishad it's a. 2319 01:49:52,560 --> 01:49:54,560 Speaker 4: Problem there's no way to put a percentage on. 2320 01:49:54,600 --> 01:49:54,640 Speaker 1: It. 2321 01:49:54,680 --> 01:49:56,960 Speaker 4: Stephen by the, Way i'll be looking at the books 2322 01:49:57,000 --> 01:49:59,000 Speaker 4: to see if the sportsbooks have actually adjusted. 2323 01:49:59,000 --> 01:50:03,560 Speaker 1: It all, wow all, right all, right well WE i 2324 01:50:03,680 --> 01:50:04,800 Speaker 1: tell you. What it's that. 2325 01:50:05,040 --> 01:50:07,800 Speaker 2: Time so by the time we talk to you next, 2326 01:50:07,920 --> 01:50:11,919 Speaker 2: week you'll have been across half the, map is basically 2327 01:50:12,040 --> 01:50:12,320 Speaker 2: what you're. 2328 01:50:12,360 --> 01:50:15,000 Speaker 4: Saying, Well East coast a. Lot i'll be driving a. Lot, 2329 01:50:15,080 --> 01:50:16,800 Speaker 4: Yeah i'll be put a lot Of Frequent fly miles 2330 01:50:16,840 --> 01:50:17,000 Speaker 4: on my. 2331 01:50:17,080 --> 01:50:21,720 Speaker 2: Car, Beautiful, adam great stuff is always we can't. WAIT i, 2332 01:50:21,800 --> 01:50:23,760 Speaker 2: mean that's the only problem with the, Preseasons like what 2333 01:50:24,000 --> 01:50:26,240 Speaker 2: is this? End then you get that bye week on 2334 01:50:26,400 --> 01:50:28,519 Speaker 2: top of, preseason then you get a bye. Week i'm, 2335 01:50:28,600 --> 01:50:29,040 Speaker 2: like come, on. 2336 01:50:29,120 --> 01:50:31,559 Speaker 1: Let's get this thing. Going great stuff has always had 2337 01:50:31,640 --> 01:50:34,120 Speaker 1: and we appreciate. It we'll talk to you next. Week that's. 2338 01:50:34,160 --> 01:50:39,360 Speaker 2: Good That's Adam, kaplan OUR nfl. Insider now let's find 2339 01:50:39,400 --> 01:50:43,040 Speaker 2: out what is? Trending and wait. 2340 01:50:42,920 --> 01:50:45,680 Speaker 9: A, second been doing this for a. Year i've been 2341 01:50:45,760 --> 01:50:47,600 Speaker 9: doing this for a. Year you shouldn't have to do 2342 01:50:47,680 --> 01:50:48,800 Speaker 9: this double take thing every. 2343 01:50:48,840 --> 01:50:50,960 Speaker 3: Time but it's a double take because you were sitting 2344 01:50:51,080 --> 01:50:52,240 Speaker 3: there and now you're sitting. 2345 01:50:52,360 --> 01:50:54,600 Speaker 1: THERE i, know AS i have been doing for like 2346 01:50:54,680 --> 01:50:56,120 Speaker 1: a year, NOW i know THAT i. 2347 01:50:56,200 --> 01:50:58,760 Speaker 3: Know how it is actually the first Show i've ever. 2348 01:50:58,960 --> 01:51:01,519 Speaker 1: DONE i know that YOU'VE i don't usually Ever i've 2349 01:51:01,600 --> 01:51:04,439 Speaker 1: never Seen i've never seen you all the Years i've 2350 01:51:04,439 --> 01:51:06,599 Speaker 1: been here and been working with, You i've never seen 2351 01:51:06,640 --> 01:51:07,360 Speaker 1: you through this glass. 2352 01:51:07,360 --> 01:51:09,720 Speaker 2: Before so my Name, STEVE i, know by the, way 2353 01:51:10,040 --> 01:51:13,280 Speaker 2: so by he Is he's Now. Endeavor he's got a new. 2354 01:51:13,360 --> 01:51:15,800 Speaker 2: Project you, Know chris always got. One know it's under 2355 01:51:15,800 --> 01:51:17,880 Speaker 2: the wrap, STILL i, KNOW i. Know i'm just saying 2356 01:51:17,960 --> 01:51:22,639 Speaker 2: he's got something. Else he's a busy, guy definitely shared 2357 01:51:23,120 --> 01:51:23,600 Speaker 2: as a bunch of. 2358 01:51:23,680 --> 01:51:24,920 Speaker 1: Workaholics we kind of have. 2359 01:51:25,040 --> 01:51:26,479 Speaker 9: To by the, WAY i heard you, guys as was 2360 01:51:26,560 --> 01:51:30,599 Speaker 9: running across the street for chicken talking about no listen 2361 01:51:31,520 --> 01:51:32,280 Speaker 9: is like a drug over. 2362 01:51:32,320 --> 01:51:32,800 Speaker 1: HERE i saw. 2363 01:51:32,920 --> 01:51:35,240 Speaker 3: You, YEAH i used to KILLING i used to killing. 2364 01:51:35,280 --> 01:51:37,080 Speaker 9: People talk about in and out From La let me 2365 01:51:37,120 --> 01:51:39,160 Speaker 9: tell you about the real stuff here is al BUT 2366 01:51:39,160 --> 01:51:40,519 Speaker 9: i heard you guys talking about what was? 2367 01:51:40,560 --> 01:51:40,600 Speaker 4: It. 2368 01:51:40,720 --> 01:51:43,599 Speaker 9: Uggs, Yes i'm on the dark side and That i've 2369 01:51:43,800 --> 01:51:46,920 Speaker 9: kind of. Embraced AS i am now entering close to. 2370 01:51:47,080 --> 01:51:50,360 Speaker 9: Forty i've just gone to. Crocs are you a cross? 2371 01:51:50,400 --> 01:51:51,439 Speaker 1: Guy And i'm wearing them right? 2372 01:51:51,479 --> 01:51:53,439 Speaker 3: Now do you have do you have pins in? Them 2373 01:51:53,760 --> 01:51:53,920 Speaker 3: do you? 2374 01:51:54,000 --> 01:51:56,519 Speaker 1: Guys? Yeah you know how you could get different little 2375 01:51:56,560 --> 01:51:58,640 Speaker 1: pins to put in the, holes little buttons and. 2376 01:51:58,680 --> 01:52:01,120 Speaker 9: Stuff i'm taking These i'm taking these downs to the 2377 01:52:01,200 --> 01:52:03,600 Speaker 9: beach and these things and destroying The. 2378 01:52:04,520 --> 01:52:08,120 Speaker 1: Chris do you have Lions lions decorations for him or? 2379 01:52:08,160 --> 01:52:10,120 Speaker 1: No thank you for putting that on my. RADAR i 2380 01:52:10,160 --> 01:52:13,120 Speaker 1: will look At i'm so. 2381 01:52:13,280 --> 01:52:18,160 Speaker 9: Sorry, well since we're thinking football right, now let's get 2382 01:52:18,200 --> 01:52:21,240 Speaker 9: you up on the preseason. Action currently twenty to Ten 2383 01:52:21,439 --> 01:52:24,600 Speaker 9: vikings over The texans in the fourth. Quarter but the 2384 01:52:24,640 --> 01:52:27,080 Speaker 9: score is really not. Important what's important is we got 2385 01:52:27,200 --> 01:52:29,920 Speaker 9: to look at the presumptive starting QUARTERBACK jj. McCarthy he 2386 01:52:29,960 --> 01:52:32,680 Speaker 9: played the First minnesota. Possession he threw for four for 2387 01:52:32,800 --> 01:52:35,000 Speaker 9: seven for thirty, yards and then the rest of this 2388 01:52:35,120 --> 01:52:38,240 Speaker 9: game went To Brett repian And Sam. Howell, however bad 2389 01:52:38,320 --> 01:52:41,479 Speaker 9: news for The vikings as wide Receiver Rondelle moore suffered 2390 01:52:41,520 --> 01:52:44,280 Speaker 9: a lower leg injury in this, game very brutal, one 2391 01:52:45,320 --> 01:52:47,120 Speaker 9: and the cart had to come out for. Him and 2392 01:52:47,240 --> 01:52:49,920 Speaker 9: we didn't have the full stoppage like we had or 2393 01:52:49,960 --> 01:52:51,720 Speaker 9: the ambulance like we had in The lions. Game but 2394 01:52:51,840 --> 01:52:55,560 Speaker 9: still not a sign you want to see in. Preseason, 2395 01:52:56,080 --> 01:52:59,160 Speaker 9: earlier The giants And bills were in preseason action as. 2396 01:52:59,200 --> 01:53:02,720 Speaker 9: Well first round pick Quarterback Jackson dart played the full 2397 01:53:02,800 --> 01:53:05,760 Speaker 9: first half Of New york twelve, nineteen one hundred and 2398 01:53:05,760 --> 01:53:08,360 Speaker 9: fifty four yards a twenty eight yard touchdown pass to 2399 01:53:08,400 --> 01:53:11,559 Speaker 9: Little Jordan. Humphrey and we're starting to get some lineups 2400 01:53:11,600 --> 01:53:14,519 Speaker 9: for the preseason games coming. Up no, surprise But Aaron 2401 01:53:14,600 --> 01:53:17,320 Speaker 9: rodgers and nearly all of The steelers starters will not 2402 01:53:17,600 --> 01:53:19,200 Speaker 9: play tonight against The Jacksonville. 2403 01:53:19,280 --> 01:53:21,920 Speaker 1: Jaguars, however we will see an Action. 2404 01:53:22,320 --> 01:53:26,839 Speaker 9: Jaguars Quarterback Trevor lawrence along with first round first overall 2405 01:53:26,960 --> 01:53:30,400 Speaker 9: Pick Travis, hunter who will play both sides of the 2406 01:53:30,479 --> 01:53:33,240 Speaker 9: ball to night go For. Jackson let's, GO i tell, you, 2407 01:53:33,360 --> 01:53:36,080 Speaker 9: Guys let's go should be a feast for the eyes. 2408 01:53:36,160 --> 01:53:38,960 Speaker 9: Guys chargers officially placed For Seawan slater on the injured. 2409 01:53:38,960 --> 01:53:40,479 Speaker 9: Deserve you guys been talking about, him and they have 2410 01:53:40,560 --> 01:53:43,920 Speaker 9: signed Tackled David sharp as a replacement on the. Roster 2411 01:53:44,840 --> 01:53:48,000 Speaker 9: AND i have one more note of, injury although it's 2412 01:53:48,320 --> 01:53:51,519 Speaker 9: quite an interesting one IF i. May but so we've 2413 01:53:51,520 --> 01:53:54,600 Speaker 9: got The Yankees Old timers game. Happening yankees defeat The 2414 01:53:54,640 --> 01:53:56,560 Speaker 9: astros five to four, earlier but now we have The 2415 01:53:56,680 --> 01:54:00,599 Speaker 9: Old timers game. Played you, KNOW i think we talked about. 2416 01:54:00,600 --> 01:54:04,280 Speaker 9: THIS i think prior another Week steven That Derek jeter 2417 01:54:04,439 --> 01:54:07,760 Speaker 9: wasn't playing in. This, yes so we did have a 2418 01:54:07,880 --> 01:54:11,000 Speaker 9: bit of an. Injury Mariano, rivera according to his, agent 2419 01:54:11,400 --> 01:54:15,200 Speaker 9: tore his acl wild game during The Old timers. 2420 01:54:15,280 --> 01:54:18,720 Speaker 1: Game oh, boy oh my, god stop playing these stage you're. 2421 01:54:18,880 --> 01:54:22,000 Speaker 9: Old, yeah this and it's like it's not Like rivera 2422 01:54:22,040 --> 01:54:23,920 Speaker 9: has to go out there for very long, Either and 2423 01:54:24,160 --> 01:54:29,040 Speaker 9: just a brutal injury for him and Other one last 2424 01:54:29,080 --> 01:54:31,200 Speaker 9: bit of. News braves defeat The marlins seven to one 2425 01:54:31,240 --> 01:54:33,920 Speaker 9: in the first game of their doubleheader And Jen powell 2426 01:54:34,200 --> 01:54:36,760 Speaker 9: among the official eating crew In Major League baseball's first 2427 01:54:36,840 --> 01:54:38,480 Speaker 9: female umpire in the regular. 2428 01:54:38,600 --> 01:54:40,800 Speaker 1: Season back to you, Guys, now what took so? 2429 01:54:40,960 --> 01:54:45,000 Speaker 2: LONG i, mean we have all the female officials in THE. Nba, 2430 01:54:45,280 --> 01:54:48,240 Speaker 2: YEAH i mean you, know so you, know, yeah, exactly 2431 01:54:48,400 --> 01:54:50,600 Speaker 2: so what Tuk Major League baseball so? Long by the, 2432 01:54:50,640 --> 01:54:52,960 Speaker 2: way you, know speaking of old timers, Games so the 2433 01:54:53,040 --> 01:54:56,640 Speaker 2: First yankees old timers game was back in nineteen forty. 2434 01:54:56,920 --> 01:55:01,080 Speaker 2: Seven Babe ruth And Ty cobb were. THERE a year, 2435 01:55:01,200 --> 01:55:04,720 Speaker 2: later The babe was. Dead, OKAY i don't get old 2436 01:55:04,800 --> 01:55:06,800 Speaker 2: timers games in any. 2437 01:55:07,120 --> 01:55:09,520 Speaker 3: In any, sport in any. Sport you, know it's just 2438 01:55:09,640 --> 01:55:10,800 Speaker 3: a celebrity softball. 2439 01:55:10,840 --> 01:55:12,960 Speaker 1: GAME i was always funny the. 2440 01:55:13,120 --> 01:55:15,440 Speaker 3: Worst and right NOW i was tennis where they have 2441 01:55:15,520 --> 01:55:17,960 Speaker 3: That tennis just, awful. 2442 01:55:18,320 --> 01:55:21,480 Speaker 1: By the, way look like, me by the, way pickle 2443 01:55:21,560 --> 01:55:25,600 Speaker 1: ball stop. It Arnie spaniard just flipped over just. NOW i, 2444 01:55:25,760 --> 01:55:30,520 Speaker 1: mean that is Not i'm with. You that Is i'm with. 2445 01:55:30,680 --> 01:55:35,160 Speaker 2: You there is nothing more embarrassing from The fox than 2446 01:55:35,320 --> 01:55:37,960 Speaker 2: watching anybody play that. 2447 01:55:38,280 --> 01:55:43,000 Speaker 3: Sport it's basically ping pong with. 2448 01:55:43,200 --> 01:55:46,000 Speaker 2: OVERSIZE i, mean if you can't, play to find another, 2449 01:55:46,040 --> 01:55:47,320 Speaker 2: sport play golf. 2450 01:55:49,680 --> 01:55:49,960 Speaker 6: Books. 2451 01:55:50,080 --> 01:55:54,960 Speaker 2: Embarrassing and don't tell me why you really work up a. Sweat, 2452 01:55:55,000 --> 01:55:57,120 Speaker 2: well if you're working up a, sweat it's because you're 2453 01:55:57,160 --> 01:55:59,840 Speaker 2: out of. Shape, basically you're working up a sweat by 2454 01:56:00,120 --> 01:56:04,480 Speaker 2: walking and, breathing if you're working up a sweat playing pickle, ball. 2455 01:56:04,760 --> 01:56:07,240 Speaker 8: If you're Rivera now do you even get? Surgery, like 2456 01:56:07,280 --> 01:56:09,040 Speaker 8: there's no point you don't have to go back out there. 2457 01:56:09,200 --> 01:56:14,840 Speaker 8: PLACE i know people who have torn their a cl 2458 01:56:14,960 --> 01:56:17,600 Speaker 8: and never got surgery because really the right around and 2459 01:56:18,440 --> 01:56:18,640 Speaker 8: of their. 2460 01:56:18,680 --> 01:56:21,760 Speaker 1: Lives you, know that's called that's called a lack of health. Insurance, 2461 01:56:22,720 --> 01:56:25,880 Speaker 1: yeah it gets it. 2462 01:56:26,000 --> 01:56:29,120 Speaker 2: Repaired, okay once, again we're in The Fox Sports radio. 2463 01:56:29,200 --> 01:56:32,120 Speaker 2: Studios coming up on the other. Side you think we're 2464 01:56:32,160 --> 01:56:34,920 Speaker 2: done WITH nfl, news we got a whole lot more coming. 2465 01:56:35,000 --> 01:56:37,480 Speaker 3: Up this Is Fox Sports, Saturday. 2466 01:56:39,160 --> 01:56:45,560 Speaker 2: Steve HARTMAN Vj, Husky Fox Sports, saturday coming alive from 2467 01:56:45,600 --> 01:56:50,240 Speaker 2: The Fox Sports radio. Studios at least What i've seen 2468 01:56:50,360 --> 01:56:54,200 Speaker 2: so far of This Vikings texans, game got four minutes 2469 01:56:54,320 --> 01:56:59,160 Speaker 2: left in this preseason. Battle quarterback of the future for 2470 01:56:59,240 --> 01:57:03,080 Speaker 2: The vikings Is Sam howe eleven or thirteen hundred and 2471 01:57:03,160 --> 01:57:06,200 Speaker 2: five yards with a passer rating of one hundred point 2472 01:57:06,280 --> 01:57:10,840 Speaker 2: THREE jj McCarthy just four seven thirty, yards passer rating 2473 01:57:10,880 --> 01:57:13,120 Speaker 2: of sixty seven point six. 2474 01:57:15,160 --> 01:57:16,800 Speaker 1: And four. Years sam how is going to be at 2475 01:57:16,840 --> 01:57:19,160 Speaker 1: a gymsonwhere asking you if you want to purchase personal. 2476 01:57:19,280 --> 01:57:20,720 Speaker 3: Training by the. 2477 01:57:20,720 --> 01:57:22,160 Speaker 2: Way what are teams going to give up on this 2478 01:57:22,320 --> 01:57:25,360 Speaker 2: idea That North carolina? Quarterbacks so they don't BRO i, 2479 01:57:25,440 --> 01:57:25,880 Speaker 2: DON'T i. 2480 01:57:25,960 --> 01:57:28,520 Speaker 1: Don't it's a basketball, school you, guys know min you 2481 01:57:28,600 --> 01:57:31,160 Speaker 1: know how you AND i talk trash doing college hoop 2482 01:57:31,200 --> 01:57:34,760 Speaker 1: season your, Bruins, mozar it's a basketball. School, guys stopped 2483 01:57:34,840 --> 01:57:37,960 Speaker 1: us really. Quick they'll talking ABOUT jj over under on 2484 01:57:38,120 --> 01:57:39,960 Speaker 1: his touchdown passes this. Year what do you think it's? 2485 01:57:40,000 --> 01:57:40,680 Speaker 1: SAID i just looked it. 2486 01:57:40,800 --> 01:57:44,920 Speaker 2: Up, WELL i, mean obviously it's contingent on him playing 2487 01:57:44,960 --> 01:57:47,200 Speaker 2: a full. SEASON i would say based on what we 2488 01:57:47,280 --> 01:57:49,600 Speaker 2: saw a year ago From Sam, darnold. 2489 01:57:51,120 --> 01:57:53,760 Speaker 3: They'll put the number below. That i'd, say over under. 2490 01:57:55,160 --> 01:57:58,040 Speaker 1: Twenty. Eight, well you're, close but take the over and 2491 01:57:58,080 --> 01:57:59,200 Speaker 1: then thenber We i'm going to give. You they got 2492 01:57:59,280 --> 01:58:00,480 Speaker 1: to set right, now four and a. 2493 01:58:00,480 --> 01:58:03,120 Speaker 3: Half twenty four and a, half WELL'S i would take. 2494 01:58:03,160 --> 01:58:05,440 Speaker 3: OVER i would take, over. Guys he's gonna throw thirty 2495 01:58:05,520 --> 01:58:06,360 Speaker 3: touchdown passes this. 2496 01:58:06,440 --> 01:58:08,560 Speaker 1: YEAR i mean What darnold have thirty four last? YEAR 2497 01:58:08,600 --> 01:58:08,880 Speaker 1: i don't. 2498 01:58:08,920 --> 01:58:11,120 Speaker 3: KNOW i don't. CARE i know WHAT jj goon't throw this? 2499 01:58:11,240 --> 01:58:11,880 Speaker 1: Year? Though too many. 2500 01:58:11,920 --> 01:58:14,240 Speaker 3: Weapons, well being out is a big. 2501 01:58:14,320 --> 01:58:16,240 Speaker 1: Thing but they HAVE. Tj, Hocket they got other weapons 2502 01:58:16,280 --> 01:58:17,920 Speaker 1: there and then out of the. 2503 01:58:17,960 --> 01:58:22,400 Speaker 2: Backfield going okay, again when we talk when we talk 2504 01:58:22,480 --> 01:58:27,400 Speaker 2: about Elite kevin, O'Connell and this is personal for me 2505 01:58:27,440 --> 01:58:29,920 Speaker 2: because as you, know i've Totally i've known him since he. 2506 01:58:30,000 --> 01:58:30,400 Speaker 1: Was in high. 2507 01:58:30,440 --> 01:58:34,800 Speaker 2: School, yes, sir two ugly playoff, losses that's what he's 2508 01:58:34,840 --> 01:58:37,480 Speaker 2: got in his resumes so. Far, YEAH i mean games 2509 01:58:37,560 --> 01:58:40,520 Speaker 2: in which they were favored in both games home against 2510 01:58:40,560 --> 01:58:43,840 Speaker 2: The giants and then limping out Of. Detroit they were 2511 01:58:43,960 --> 01:58:46,760 Speaker 2: favored against The rams and still lost that game even 2512 01:58:46,800 --> 01:58:49,120 Speaker 2: though it was on the road and looked terrible in 2513 01:58:49,200 --> 01:58:49,640 Speaker 2: both those. 2514 01:58:49,760 --> 01:58:51,000 Speaker 1: Games what do you think it? 2515 01:58:51,160 --> 01:58:51,200 Speaker 4: Is? 2516 01:58:51,320 --> 01:58:54,000 Speaker 1: Then just when you because you're, right he should have 2517 01:58:55,040 --> 01:58:58,280 Speaker 1: a more successful postseason because of the weapons that he 2518 01:58:58,520 --> 01:58:59,280 Speaker 1: has on his. 2519 01:58:59,560 --> 01:59:03,240 Speaker 2: Roster at it's a different gam you, know one in the. Postseason, 2520 01:59:03,360 --> 01:59:07,919 Speaker 2: everyone there's two. Seasons there's the regular. Season Daniel, jones 2521 01:59:08,720 --> 01:59:13,080 Speaker 2: he lost The Daniel jones home and remember that was 2522 01:59:13,120 --> 01:59:16,160 Speaker 2: the year that both The minnesota had that incredible year 2523 01:59:16,680 --> 01:59:19,320 Speaker 2: where they were eleven and zero in one score game 2524 01:59:19,480 --> 01:59:21,920 Speaker 2: games and then they lose a one score game at. 2525 01:59:21,960 --> 01:59:24,240 Speaker 1: Home in the, playoffs they went up and Beat buffalo that. 2526 01:59:24,360 --> 01:59:26,640 Speaker 1: Year you remember that game to the fourth and forever 2527 01:59:26,800 --> 01:59:29,120 Speaker 1: to one hand catch By Justin jefferson to keep the drive. 2528 01:59:29,200 --> 01:59:32,320 Speaker 2: Gone quick story, Here Marty schottenheimer came To San diego 2529 01:59:32,360 --> 01:59:35,240 Speaker 2: WHEN i was working In San. Diego you would have 2530 01:59:35,320 --> 01:59:36,440 Speaker 2: loved to have been there for this ONE. 2531 01:59:36,520 --> 01:59:37,960 Speaker 1: Bj so The. 2532 01:59:39,720 --> 01:59:44,440 Speaker 2: Chargers had completely bottomed, out all, right And marty comes 2533 01:59:44,520 --> 01:59:48,560 Speaker 2: in and he asked to have a dinner with some 2534 01:59:48,800 --> 01:59:52,520 Speaker 2: of the senior members of the local, media of WHICH 2535 01:59:52,600 --> 01:59:55,360 Speaker 2: i was one at the. Time so he takes us 2536 01:59:55,400 --> 01:59:59,240 Speaker 2: out to a, steakhouse big time, steakhouse and THERE'S i 2537 01:59:59,280 --> 02:00:02,320 Speaker 2: would say there's probably maybe a dozen of us at 2538 02:00:02,360 --> 02:00:02,960 Speaker 2: the table With. 2539 02:00:03,120 --> 02:00:06,160 Speaker 3: Marty marty's at the end of the. Table so we're all. 2540 02:00:06,360 --> 02:00:08,720 Speaker 2: Ordering everyone's got their stakes in front of, him And 2541 02:00:08,840 --> 02:00:12,520 Speaker 2: marty's got an empty plate in front of. Him and 2542 02:00:12,640 --> 02:00:14,880 Speaker 2: then they walk in and they give him it was 2543 02:00:15,000 --> 02:00:18,680 Speaker 2: either bourbon or whiskey in a glass and they put 2544 02:00:18,760 --> 02:00:21,240 Speaker 2: it on his. Plate that's all he had in front of, 2545 02:00:21,280 --> 02:00:24,840 Speaker 2: him and so he's looking, around he's sipping on it 2546 02:00:25,000 --> 02:00:28,160 Speaker 2: and everything. Else, Immediately i'm like falling in love with this, guy, 2547 02:00:28,280 --> 02:00:34,080 Speaker 2: right and this, Guy Marty schottenheimer won two hundred games 2548 02:00:34,160 --> 02:00:37,960 Speaker 2: in his. Career there's ONLY i believe seven or eight 2549 02:00:38,080 --> 02:00:41,320 Speaker 2: coaches in the history of THE nfl that have done. 2550 02:00:41,360 --> 02:00:43,720 Speaker 1: That but it's postseason five and. 2551 02:00:43,800 --> 02:00:50,760 Speaker 2: Eleven he just could not win in the postseason and, 2552 02:00:50,960 --> 02:00:56,640 Speaker 2: again same, guy different. Results jury's out On kevin. O'Connell 2553 02:00:56,840 --> 02:00:57,560 Speaker 2: can he get it? 2554 02:00:57,640 --> 02:01:00,480 Speaker 1: Done we will get it done with more found news 2555 02:01:00,520 --> 02:01:04,400 Speaker 1: coming up here On Fox Sports. Saturday you're listening To 2556 02:01:04,560 --> 02:01:09,200 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio. Radio no stopping us here on this 2557 02:01:09,480 --> 02:01:13,440 Speaker 1: huge Sports, Saturday Fox Sports. Saturday we're broadcasting live from 2558 02:01:13,480 --> 02:01:19,720 Speaker 1: The Fox Sports radio. Studios one quick note Here Jackson, 2559 02:01:19,840 --> 02:01:22,720 Speaker 1: dart who looked real good. 2560 02:01:22,800 --> 02:01:25,600 Speaker 2: Today they were on the road against The bills twelve 2561 02:01:25,640 --> 02:01:28,520 Speaker 2: to nineteen hundred and fifty four yards, touchdown no. PICKS 2562 02:01:29,000 --> 02:01:30,800 Speaker 2: i was doing a little you, KNOW i was Watching 2563 02:01:30,920 --> 02:01:34,400 Speaker 2: Cam Warchdor, Sanders Dylan, gabriel some of these top, quarterbacks 2564 02:01:34,920 --> 02:01:37,800 Speaker 2: AND i was watching just some highlights Of Jackson. 2565 02:01:37,520 --> 02:01:39,320 Speaker 1: Dart At Ole Miss and of COURSE i remember when 2566 02:01:39,360 --> 02:01:40,480 Speaker 1: he was AT Usc. 2567 02:01:40,400 --> 02:01:44,400 Speaker 2: Ticketsmen when you talk about just throwing the, ball like 2568 02:01:45,400 --> 02:01:49,480 Speaker 2: the velocity on his, pass it's, noticeable like, REALLY i, 2569 02:01:49,520 --> 02:01:51,400 Speaker 2: mean it's not like other guys can't get the. Ball 2570 02:01:51,440 --> 02:01:53,280 Speaker 2: you still have to get the ball from POINT a 2571 02:01:53,400 --> 02:01:56,080 Speaker 2: to POINT. B accuracy is the number one. Thing but 2572 02:01:56,160 --> 02:01:59,120 Speaker 2: when you just when you just watch the ball fly 2573 02:01:59,280 --> 02:02:01,720 Speaker 2: out of this guy his. Hands, WOW i mean he 2574 02:02:01,840 --> 02:02:05,600 Speaker 2: has got a weapon on his right. Arm so we'll 2575 02:02:05,600 --> 02:02:07,760 Speaker 2: see how that plays. Out The giants are, terrible but 2576 02:02:08,360 --> 02:02:10,880 Speaker 2: at least first, day we're talking about your Door sanders looked. 2577 02:02:10,880 --> 02:02:13,800 Speaker 2: Good yesterday we're talking About Jackson dart looked pretty good 2578 02:02:13,840 --> 02:02:16,520 Speaker 2: in his first preseason out in twelve to nineteen hundred 2579 02:02:16,520 --> 02:02:18,560 Speaker 2: and fifty four yards and a score against The. 2580 02:02:18,600 --> 02:02:21,000 Speaker 1: Bills he's, there and The giants aren't gonna be. Terrible 2581 02:02:21,040 --> 02:02:22,840 Speaker 1: that defense is going to be really good and keep 2582 02:02:22,880 --> 02:02:24,800 Speaker 1: them in. Games it's just what are you going to 2583 02:02:24,880 --> 02:02:27,920 Speaker 1: get at the quarterback, position because you do Have molik 2584 02:02:28,000 --> 02:02:31,240 Speaker 1: neighbors like you do have A bona five star to 2585 02:02:31,360 --> 02:02:31,920 Speaker 1: get THE ba. 2586 02:02:31,920 --> 02:02:34,680 Speaker 2: Also played, today by the, Way Russell wilson was six to, 2587 02:02:34,800 --> 02:02:37,960 Speaker 2: Seven Jamis winston seven to, Eleven Tommy DeVito was in there. 2588 02:02:38,080 --> 02:02:40,480 Speaker 3: TenneT get them all in, there But Jackson dart looked 2589 02:02:40,840 --> 02:02:41,240 Speaker 3: probably the. 2590 02:02:41,280 --> 02:02:43,040 Speaker 1: Best get them all in, there And Jackson DART i 2591 02:02:43,080 --> 02:02:45,480 Speaker 1: think should be the. Starter he will be the, start 2592 02:02:45,680 --> 02:02:47,720 Speaker 1: just how long away drafted. Him you don't draft the 2593 02:02:47,760 --> 02:02:50,520 Speaker 1: guy and then bringing old Ass Russell wilson and Give 2594 02:02:50,600 --> 02:02:53,160 Speaker 1: Russell Wissell wilson's been done for three. Years, People well 2595 02:02:53,240 --> 02:02:53,720 Speaker 1: let's stop. 2596 02:02:53,760 --> 02:02:55,400 Speaker 2: It. Okay first of, all you're not gonna have Both 2597 02:02:55,480 --> 02:02:58,520 Speaker 2: Jameis winston And Russell wilson on this, roster, right. 2598 02:02:58,560 --> 02:03:00,600 Speaker 1: You know you're just. Not i'd much rather have Famous 2599 02:03:00,680 --> 02:03:02,600 Speaker 1: jamis aka. Krabley, Well i've. 2600 02:03:02,440 --> 02:03:06,640 Speaker 2: Always has always Been Jameis winston fam too since. YEARS 2601 02:03:06,680 --> 02:03:09,160 Speaker 2: i mean say his thirty thirty year he had With. 2602 02:03:09,280 --> 02:03:12,280 Speaker 2: Tampa he had thirty, touchdowns thirty, picks threw for over 2603 02:03:12,480 --> 02:03:13,080 Speaker 2: five thousand. 2604 02:03:13,200 --> 02:03:17,320 Speaker 1: YARDS i mean two pick six is like they were. 2605 02:03:17,680 --> 02:03:20,000 Speaker 1: Going but he still, was, like you, know led the 2606 02:03:20,120 --> 02:03:23,800 Speaker 1: league and. Passing the guy put up some huge. Numbers 2607 02:03:24,120 --> 02:03:24,920 Speaker 1: the guy can throw the. 2608 02:03:24,960 --> 02:03:28,600 Speaker 2: Football but, yeah we'll see where we go With Jackson 2609 02:03:28,720 --> 02:03:29,440 Speaker 2: dart with The. 2610 02:03:29,600 --> 02:03:31,600 Speaker 1: Giants SO i want to address something really. Quick you, 2611 02:03:31,680 --> 02:03:33,120 Speaker 1: know we like that fun With twitter and our fans 2612 02:03:33,160 --> 02:03:34,840 Speaker 1: and people that are listening. Stuff AND i was doing 2613 02:03:34,880 --> 02:03:37,320 Speaker 1: the commercial. Break i've read two that were really, interesting, 2614 02:03:37,440 --> 02:03:41,000 Speaker 1: okay and we get one here from At Listen Up, 2615 02:03:41,160 --> 02:03:44,080 Speaker 1: casey who Is i'm assuming A chiefs fan because he 2616 02:03:44,120 --> 02:03:45,600 Speaker 1: didn't like Your chiefs. Pick i'm. 2617 02:03:45,600 --> 02:03:49,840 Speaker 3: Sure and he wrote him in At lance the sp 2618 02:03:50,160 --> 02:03:50,720 Speaker 3: something something. 2619 02:03:50,800 --> 02:03:52,800 Speaker 1: Something when you got a name too, long has got 2620 02:03:52,840 --> 02:03:54,600 Speaker 1: too many, dots, man take some of them emoji's out 2621 02:03:54,600 --> 02:03:55,880 Speaker 1: of your, name, bro before you put your name. 2622 02:03:55,960 --> 02:03:56,200 Speaker 3: Up that's. 2623 02:03:56,280 --> 02:03:58,840 Speaker 1: Ridiculous but he, said he quoted you The chiefs are 2624 02:03:58,920 --> 02:04:01,920 Speaker 1: due for. Hiccup AND i think this this season end 2625 02:04:02,000 --> 02:04:05,040 Speaker 1: quote at Ken hartman that is an accurate. Quote that's. 2626 02:04:05,080 --> 02:04:08,720 Speaker 1: Accurate then didn't proceeds to not give any reason why 2627 02:04:08,920 --> 02:04:13,000 Speaker 1: this end quote hiccup will occur other than dot dot. 2628 02:04:13,080 --> 02:04:14,040 Speaker 1: Dot you guessed. 2629 02:04:14,080 --> 02:04:14,720 Speaker 4: It the. 2630 02:04:14,960 --> 02:04:19,600 Speaker 1: Annual THE Afc west got. Better, yes lazy ass take, 2631 02:04:19,640 --> 02:04:24,480 Speaker 1: okay lazy ass is. Better The chargers are. Better look 2632 02:04:24,520 --> 02:04:24,760 Speaker 1: at these. 2633 02:04:24,840 --> 02:04:27,880 Speaker 2: Coaches you Got Pete, carroll you Got Jim, harbaugh you 2634 02:04:28,000 --> 02:04:31,640 Speaker 2: Got Sean. Paide those are really good. Coaches so they're 2635 02:04:31,680 --> 02:04:34,400 Speaker 2: making their teams. Better, Right so then listen. 2636 02:04:34,520 --> 02:04:37,600 Speaker 1: Up at Listen, Up casey responds and, says, YEAH i heard, 2637 02:04:37,680 --> 02:04:41,480 Speaker 1: This it was, ridiculous with zero pushback from his co 2638 02:04:41,640 --> 02:04:43,400 Speaker 1: host At Big. 2639 02:04:43,480 --> 02:04:44,520 Speaker 3: Vanilla may do you agree with? 2640 02:04:44,600 --> 02:04:48,000 Speaker 1: Me, well, well here's the. Thing first of, all where's this. 2641 02:04:48,280 --> 02:04:51,040 Speaker 1: Annual The west got better coming From when when have 2642 02:04:51,120 --> 02:04:53,760 Speaker 1: we been saying? That thank? You for the last seven, 2643 02:04:53,960 --> 02:04:56,560 Speaker 1: years no one has said THE Afc west got. 2644 02:04:56,680 --> 02:05:00,960 Speaker 2: BETTERS i predicted the Charge we're gonna have a bad. 2645 02:05:01,080 --> 02:05:01,720 Speaker 1: SEASON i was. 2646 02:05:01,840 --> 02:05:04,520 Speaker 3: Wrong we knew The raiders are going to be and 2647 02:05:04,600 --> 02:05:06,200 Speaker 3: THEN i had, this you, know out of left. 2648 02:05:06,240 --> 02:05:09,640 Speaker 2: FIELD i picked the The broncos to win ten games 2649 02:05:09,680 --> 02:05:10,800 Speaker 2: and make the playoffs as a wild. 2650 02:05:10,840 --> 02:05:11,560 Speaker 3: CARS i nailed. 2651 02:05:11,600 --> 02:05:12,120 Speaker 1: It that was. 2652 02:05:12,160 --> 02:05:14,960 Speaker 2: IT i didn't say The chiefs were gonna win The. 2653 02:05:15,040 --> 02:05:16,880 Speaker 2: WEST i had them winning The, west, Right, yeah, no, 2654 02:05:17,000 --> 02:05:18,680 Speaker 2: No well just to hold the. 2655 02:05:18,960 --> 02:05:21,760 Speaker 1: Annual that's the part that's got me is because we 2656 02:05:22,160 --> 02:05:23,800 Speaker 1: do this for a, living and we covered this for 2657 02:05:23,880 --> 02:05:24,440 Speaker 1: a living. 2658 02:05:24,680 --> 02:05:25,880 Speaker 3: Over the last seven or eight. 2659 02:05:25,960 --> 02:05:30,600 Speaker 1: Years here's nobody who's been saying that The chiefs are 2660 02:05:30,920 --> 02:05:34,280 Speaker 1: up for you, know getting. Upset last, Year even myself 2661 02:05:34,680 --> 02:05:37,680 Speaker 1: and people Like Adam, kaplan a few other like big 2662 02:05:37,760 --> 02:05:41,600 Speaker 1: TIME nfl writers insiders thought The chargers could push, them 2663 02:05:41,680 --> 02:05:44,800 Speaker 1: which they. Did it came down to week seventeen and 2664 02:05:44,920 --> 02:05:47,480 Speaker 1: eighteen for The chiefs to win that. Division like they 2665 02:05:47,520 --> 02:05:50,520 Speaker 1: didn't walk away this. Year last, year we're fifteen and. 2666 02:05:50,680 --> 02:05:52,200 Speaker 1: One no towards the. 2667 02:05:52,320 --> 02:05:55,400 Speaker 2: End The, chiefs the, well the Chief remember what last, 2668 02:05:55,480 --> 02:05:57,720 Speaker 2: year all season, long here's what we said about The. 2669 02:05:57,800 --> 02:06:00,280 Speaker 2: Chiefs remember they had that good, undefeated, right but they 2670 02:06:00,440 --> 02:06:02,000 Speaker 2: like the worst eleven zero team we've ever. 2671 02:06:02,040 --> 02:06:02,840 Speaker 1: Seen they weren't. 2672 02:06:02,960 --> 02:06:04,920 Speaker 3: Pressure you're, Right i'm, Sorry i'm. Thinking i'm thinking about 2673 02:06:04,920 --> 02:06:08,360 Speaker 3: the the THE. Nfc you're right, Here, yeah but last. 2674 02:06:08,240 --> 02:06:10,240 Speaker 2: Year they were and then they got blown out in 2675 02:06:10,360 --> 02:06:14,880 Speaker 2: a meaningless seventeenth game By. Denver but they they they 2676 02:06:15,040 --> 02:06:17,920 Speaker 2: never looked as good as their record all season. Long their, 2677 02:06:17,960 --> 02:06:21,080 Speaker 2: offense they had what one regular season game with thirty. 2678 02:06:21,120 --> 02:06:24,400 Speaker 2: Points Obviously kelsey's at the end of the, line and 2679 02:06:24,440 --> 02:06:25,680 Speaker 2: what do he averaged like seven. 2680 02:06:25,520 --> 02:06:27,160 Speaker 1: Eight yards a? Catch you, know? 2681 02:06:28,240 --> 02:06:32,600 Speaker 2: Sixty they had home field, Advantage buffalo had a, chance 2682 02:06:32,720 --> 02:06:34,880 Speaker 2: couldn't get it, done and then they got. 2683 02:06:34,800 --> 02:06:38,360 Speaker 3: Annihilated humiliated in The Super. 2684 02:06:38,360 --> 02:06:39,640 Speaker 1: Bowl, bears they got The Super. 2685 02:06:39,680 --> 02:06:41,720 Speaker 2: Bowl and by the, way if you listen to this, 2686 02:06:41,800 --> 02:06:46,160 Speaker 2: SHOW i predicted the entire time so on tape that 2687 02:06:46,280 --> 02:06:48,440 Speaker 2: The eagles are going to win that game by double. 2688 02:06:48,520 --> 02:06:52,240 Speaker 2: DIGITS i said the entire, week two weeks leading up 2689 02:06:52,280 --> 02:06:55,040 Speaker 2: The Super. Bowl not only AM i picking The, eagles 2690 02:06:55,240 --> 02:06:57,760 Speaker 2: The eagles will win by double digits in this. 2691 02:06:57,920 --> 02:07:00,560 Speaker 3: Game last, year it was the defense that carried. Them 2692 02:07:00,560 --> 02:07:02,200 Speaker 3: it was that actually really. 2693 02:07:02,280 --> 02:07:05,360 Speaker 1: Cared the offense did not carry The chiefs last. Year, 2694 02:07:05,480 --> 02:07:07,160 Speaker 1: so and LIKE i, said we just love to have. 2695 02:07:07,280 --> 02:07:09,960 Speaker 1: Fun we love to respond to people that don't seem to. 2696 02:07:10,080 --> 02:07:12,280 Speaker 1: Listen And, plus if you gotta type, Something i'm gonna 2697 02:07:12,280 --> 02:07:13,400 Speaker 1: look at what you type it put it. 2698 02:07:13,440 --> 02:07:17,320 Speaker 3: Out so this these fans are in denial that annual ever. 2699 02:07:17,520 --> 02:07:20,000 Speaker 8: Happens if you want the comment to hold more weight to, 2700 02:07:20,280 --> 02:07:23,560 Speaker 8: like don't make your username casey money, line right because 2701 02:07:23,560 --> 02:07:27,480 Speaker 8: it's coming from A chiefs get more sensitive and someone 2702 02:07:27,520 --> 02:07:28,360 Speaker 8: says something against your. 2703 02:07:28,360 --> 02:07:32,880 Speaker 1: Team, also what are you so mad? About like you've been? Humiliated, right, 2704 02:07:33,840 --> 02:07:35,880 Speaker 1: well like Like steve is, saying because the last time 2705 02:07:35,960 --> 02:07:38,120 Speaker 1: we saw them on the, field they were and you. 2706 02:07:38,200 --> 02:07:39,560 Speaker 3: Weren't and he was the other. One you AND i 2707 02:07:39,760 --> 02:07:42,560 Speaker 3: picked them In august to be The eagles to win 2708 02:07:42,640 --> 02:07:42,920 Speaker 3: The Super. 2709 02:07:42,960 --> 02:07:44,560 Speaker 1: Bowl you AND i were the only two people here 2710 02:07:44,960 --> 02:07:46,880 Speaker 1: on our sheet that we post that everybody in the 2711 02:07:46,920 --> 02:07:49,320 Speaker 1: world can see to pick The. Eagles they didn't just get, 2712 02:07:49,440 --> 02:07:53,520 Speaker 1: beat they got embarrassed in that. Game bye bye by 2713 02:07:53,560 --> 02:07:55,600 Speaker 1: The Philadelphia. Eagles and that's the last thought on their. 2714 02:07:55,640 --> 02:07:58,040 Speaker 1: Mind so this is fan. Basis if you say something 2715 02:07:58,040 --> 02:07:59,960 Speaker 1: about their, team it could be something. Small none of 2716 02:08:00,200 --> 02:08:02,040 Speaker 1: us have said they're. Bad none of us have said 2717 02:08:02,040 --> 02:08:04,440 Speaker 1: they're gonna have a bad. YEAR i just think this 2718 02:08:04,640 --> 02:08:08,520 Speaker 1: division is so, hard and, yes the division did get. 2719 02:08:08,600 --> 02:08:11,720 Speaker 1: Better that's normally how you unsee the. Team by the, 2720 02:08:11,760 --> 02:08:15,200 Speaker 1: way if the division has to continue to, improve which it, 2721 02:08:15,320 --> 02:08:16,160 Speaker 1: has air's a. 2722 02:08:16,240 --> 02:08:19,400 Speaker 2: Fact so there's a lot of grating systems that are 2723 02:08:19,560 --> 02:08:23,080 Speaker 2: used to grade. Linemen, okay both offensive and defensive. Lineman 2724 02:08:23,120 --> 02:08:26,000 Speaker 2: there's a lot of metrics involved in. Efficiency there are 2725 02:08:26,120 --> 02:08:30,760 Speaker 2: two teams in THE nfl that have both offensive and 2726 02:08:30,880 --> 02:08:33,280 Speaker 2: defensive lines. RANKED i believe it was in the top 2727 02:08:33,360 --> 02:08:36,240 Speaker 2: three or. Five one is The Philadelphia, eagles the other 2728 02:08:36,600 --> 02:08:40,200 Speaker 2: The Denver. Broncos, yeah there was gonna be tough. Man 2729 02:08:40,440 --> 02:08:43,240 Speaker 2: bonnicks can take the next step from what he built 2730 02:08:43,280 --> 02:08:46,000 Speaker 2: on as a. Rookie that team will win thirteen games 2731 02:08:46,040 --> 02:08:49,600 Speaker 2: this year easily because they have the, defense they have 2732 02:08:49,720 --> 02:08:50,520 Speaker 2: the coach and everything. 2733 02:08:50,600 --> 02:08:52,400 Speaker 3: ELSE i don't think The chiefs are at that. 2734 02:08:52,560 --> 02:08:55,840 Speaker 2: LEVEL i think The chiefs right now are a ten 2735 02:08:55,840 --> 02:08:57,960 Speaker 2: to eleven win, team and that's of a lot of 2736 02:08:58,080 --> 02:08:58,480 Speaker 2: things go. 2737 02:08:58,760 --> 02:09:02,040 Speaker 3: Right you got to keep. By obviously mahomes, upright but 2738 02:09:02,480 --> 02:09:03,680 Speaker 3: you know the The kelsey. 2739 02:09:03,480 --> 02:09:05,240 Speaker 1: Is just not the threat he used to. Be, no 2740 02:09:05,480 --> 02:09:06,560 Speaker 1: not even close an. 2741 02:09:06,640 --> 02:09:09,280 Speaker 2: Example so the defense has you, Know Chris jones officuely 2742 02:09:09,320 --> 02:09:11,520 Speaker 2: has to say. Healthy they got to continue to dominate 2743 02:09:11,560 --> 02:09:11,760 Speaker 2: with their. 2744 02:09:11,800 --> 02:09:14,640 Speaker 3: Defense but you just don't keep it on. Forever, now 2745 02:09:14,680 --> 02:09:16,520 Speaker 3: at some point you're gonna get a, hiccup, right and 2746 02:09:16,680 --> 02:09:18,200 Speaker 3: that's and that's how just the league. 2747 02:09:18,320 --> 02:09:21,879 Speaker 1: Is and once again THE afc is just so loaded 2748 02:09:22,000 --> 02:09:23,960 Speaker 1: so on on the on the back hills of, that 2749 02:09:24,600 --> 02:09:29,560 Speaker 1: uh W j At, FLANMAN kJ, says, Wow Fox Sports 2750 02:09:29,680 --> 02:09:32,280 Speaker 1: radio just predicts The chiefs will. Lose THE afc was 2751 02:09:32,600 --> 02:09:36,680 Speaker 1: finishing Behind, Broncos chargers And. Raiders just heard them predict 2752 02:09:36,800 --> 02:09:39,160 Speaker 1: that and That Josh allen will win The Super? Bowl 2753 02:09:39,520 --> 02:09:42,000 Speaker 1: what show are you listening? To either one of us 2754 02:09:42,000 --> 02:09:44,760 Speaker 1: sat here and said The chiefs are gonna finish, last 2755 02:09:44,800 --> 02:09:47,000 Speaker 1: and either one that The bills were winning The Super? 2756 02:09:47,040 --> 02:09:49,640 Speaker 3: Bowl DID i say The raiders are going to finish The? 2757 02:09:49,800 --> 02:09:53,840 Speaker 1: CHIEFS i think The. Broncos, honestly on, paper if you 2758 02:09:53,920 --> 02:09:56,280 Speaker 1: look at him right now and, again Bow knicks. 2759 02:09:56,040 --> 02:09:58,320 Speaker 2: Has to prove that it was not a rookie. Flow oh, 2760 02:09:58,360 --> 02:10:00,440 Speaker 2: yeah and there's and again we saw Ced A stroud 2761 02:10:00,480 --> 02:10:02,839 Speaker 2: to take a step. Back we'll see What Jayden daniels 2762 02:10:02,880 --> 02:10:04,800 Speaker 2: does his second, Year so that is always a. 2763 02:10:04,880 --> 02:10:07,240 Speaker 1: Possibility i'm going to trust The Sean payton, though Just 2764 02:10:07,920 --> 02:10:10,600 Speaker 1: i'm gonna trust In Sean payton to make Sure bowl 2765 02:10:10,720 --> 02:10:11,360 Speaker 1: doesn't have that. 2766 02:10:11,560 --> 02:10:14,480 Speaker 2: Right but go, ahead, yeah exactly look at. It and, 2767 02:10:14,560 --> 02:10:16,800 Speaker 2: Again Drew brees wasn't a, rookie but he was a 2768 02:10:16,920 --> 02:10:19,560 Speaker 2: new guy in. Assistant they had the great first year 2769 02:10:19,680 --> 02:10:23,080 Speaker 2: together and then they settled in win A Super bowl 2770 02:10:23,080 --> 02:10:26,360 Speaker 2: a couple of years. Later as far as The bills, 2771 02:10:26,400 --> 02:10:29,960 Speaker 2: went that wasn't the question was. This if not The, 2772 02:10:30,240 --> 02:10:32,800 Speaker 2: chiefs thank. You if not the this is how We 2773 02:10:33,040 --> 02:10:34,800 Speaker 2: if you were listening to the. Show if not The, 2774 02:10:34,920 --> 02:10:38,280 Speaker 2: chiefs then Who and you Said, ravens AND i Say, 2775 02:10:38,400 --> 02:10:42,680 Speaker 2: Bills And i'm basing on. Again the quarterbacks play Between 2776 02:10:42,760 --> 02:10:45,920 Speaker 2: Lamar jackson And Josh allen in the, POSTSEASON i pointed 2777 02:10:46,000 --> 02:10:50,160 Speaker 2: out That Josh allen's passer rating in the postseason and 2778 02:10:50,240 --> 02:10:53,880 Speaker 2: thirteen postseason starts is nine points higher than his career 2779 02:10:54,120 --> 02:10:57,480 Speaker 2: regular season as opposed To Lamar, jackson's who is three 2780 02:10:57,520 --> 02:10:59,840 Speaker 2: and five in the, postseason and his passer rating is 2781 02:11:00,000 --> 02:11:03,200 Speaker 2: eighteen points lower in the. Postseason that was the conversation 2782 02:11:03,360 --> 02:11:05,920 Speaker 2: we had in our, arguments he with The, ravens me 2783 02:11:06,040 --> 02:11:09,440 Speaker 2: with The bills in terms of if not The, chiefs, 2784 02:11:09,600 --> 02:11:12,480 Speaker 2: right then who is the team that would step in 2785 02:11:12,560 --> 02:11:13,240 Speaker 2: and represent THE. 2786 02:11:13,400 --> 02:11:14,200 Speaker 1: Afc and that's. 2787 02:11:14,240 --> 02:11:15,720 Speaker 3: Right we didn't say they were winning BECAUSE i don't 2788 02:11:15,720 --> 02:11:19,720 Speaker 3: Think buffalo's getting. There first of, all we haven't made 2789 02:11:19,800 --> 02:11:20,560 Speaker 3: any predictions at. 2790 02:11:20,600 --> 02:11:23,000 Speaker 2: All and the reason we haven't made any predictions is 2791 02:11:23,120 --> 02:11:26,080 Speaker 2: what happened To Rashaan, Slater, right we're not making a. 2792 02:11:26,200 --> 02:11:30,280 Speaker 2: Prediction you, know the week before the regular, season you 2793 02:11:30,400 --> 02:11:32,880 Speaker 2: gotta get in the. Books, okay you can't play regular. 2794 02:11:32,920 --> 02:11:35,560 Speaker 2: Season you gotta get your picks. In but you don't 2795 02:11:35,600 --> 02:11:38,800 Speaker 2: make picks before now because there's. Injuries there's a lot 2796 02:11:38,880 --> 02:11:40,600 Speaker 2: of things that can happen over the next several. 2797 02:11:40,680 --> 02:11:42,920 Speaker 1: Weeks you. KNOW i don't make my predictions until the 2798 02:11:43,040 --> 02:11:45,760 Speaker 1: fifty three man rosters are, set so you go when 2799 02:11:45,800 --> 02:11:48,360 Speaker 1: you have to turn those in By monday morning Of 2800 02:11:48,480 --> 02:11:51,760 Speaker 1: Labor day. Weekend that's The that's One i'll tell you 2801 02:11:51,920 --> 02:11:54,280 Speaker 1: who's gonna win the, divisions the, beauty who's gonna win 2802 02:11:54,280 --> 02:11:54,560 Speaker 1: The Super. 2803 02:11:54,560 --> 02:11:56,800 Speaker 2: Bowl the beauty now is we have that bye, week, 2804 02:11:56,960 --> 02:11:58,880 Speaker 2: right you, know we have the bye week between the 2805 02:11:58,960 --> 02:12:01,240 Speaker 2: end of the preseason and the start of the regular. 2806 02:12:01,280 --> 02:12:04,040 Speaker 3: SEASON i love. It college football gets the full spotlight week. 2807 02:12:04,120 --> 02:12:05,320 Speaker 1: One but you have a. 2808 02:12:05,360 --> 02:12:08,760 Speaker 3: Week everything is, settled rosters are. Set now let's make our. 2809 02:12:08,800 --> 02:12:11,760 Speaker 1: PICKS i don't even like doing fantasy drafts during. PRESEASON 2810 02:12:12,040 --> 02:12:14,160 Speaker 1: i just because you can lose a, Guy, like, seriously 2811 02:12:14,240 --> 02:12:17,000 Speaker 1: you could go draft the. Guy, hey, Listen Rashaun slater 2812 02:12:17,240 --> 02:12:20,200 Speaker 1: is the first big. Name we all know another one's. 2813 02:12:20,280 --> 02:12:23,640 Speaker 1: Coming it's never one guy in the. Preseason we all 2814 02:12:23,840 --> 02:12:27,600 Speaker 1: know there's just another big name that will affect the 2815 02:12:27,720 --> 02:12:30,920 Speaker 1: team that we are gonna hear is done for the. 2816 02:12:31,080 --> 02:12:34,400 Speaker 1: Year our twelve weeks or four months where it's, like, 2817 02:12:34,440 --> 02:12:37,440 Speaker 1: well we might could get him back By. December, yeah 2818 02:12:37,440 --> 02:12:39,600 Speaker 1: you've just missed Up, Timber, October. November that's a lot 2819 02:12:39,680 --> 02:12:42,160 Speaker 1: of games to. Miss like the Year Jalen ramsey got 2820 02:12:42,240 --> 02:12:44,240 Speaker 1: hurt for The, dolphins, right and he's, like, well hopefully 2821 02:12:44,280 --> 02:12:45,800 Speaker 1: you can get him back By. Thanksgiving but at that 2822 02:12:45,840 --> 02:12:48,280 Speaker 1: point in your, life so, okay, great we get him 2823 02:12:48,320 --> 02:12:51,120 Speaker 1: back At, thanksgiving but, goodness, gracious we don't we lose 2824 02:12:51,160 --> 02:12:52,840 Speaker 1: him the first ten to eleven. 2825 02:12:52,560 --> 02:12:53,000 Speaker 3: Games of the. 2826 02:12:53,080 --> 02:12:57,080 Speaker 1: Year that's. Huge so another name's, coming, People Rashawn slater's 2827 02:12:57,160 --> 02:13:00,360 Speaker 1: just the first. One there's a, receiver a running. Back trust, 2828 02:13:00,440 --> 02:13:02,440 Speaker 1: me there's a big. Name another big name guy is 2829 02:13:02,480 --> 02:13:05,080 Speaker 1: gonna have a slip or have a teammate fall on 2830 02:13:05,200 --> 02:13:07,600 Speaker 1: his legs or. Something The Rashaan slader, thing it wasn't 2831 02:13:07,720 --> 02:13:12,240 Speaker 1: like high collision. Impact it was just normal. Practicing and once, 2832 02:13:12,280 --> 02:13:15,280 Speaker 1: Again jared Vers klax needs would a guy and they're 2833 02:13:15,320 --> 02:13:18,080 Speaker 1: hoping that's not a big, thing but more injuries are. 2834 02:13:18,080 --> 02:13:19,520 Speaker 2: Coming BUT i just wanted to just play around with, 2835 02:13:19,520 --> 02:13:21,000 Speaker 2: you all, right all, right, WELL i mean look at 2836 02:13:21,000 --> 02:13:24,280 Speaker 2: the BYE i don't. Mind you know, what if you're 2837 02:13:24,320 --> 02:13:26,320 Speaker 2: a fan of a, team stay a fan of your. 2838 02:13:26,360 --> 02:13:29,280 Speaker 2: TEAM i have a kid that is a die Hard chargers. 2839 02:13:29,320 --> 02:13:31,520 Speaker 2: Fan he gets heat all the. Time why do you 2840 02:13:31,560 --> 02:13:34,080 Speaker 2: stay with The? Chargers and his answer is simple because 2841 02:13:34,120 --> 02:13:36,720 Speaker 2: they have always been my, team right, always even though 2842 02:13:36,760 --> 02:13:39,400 Speaker 2: they've never done. Anything they never won A Super, bowl 2843 02:13:39,760 --> 02:13:42,520 Speaker 2: they have One Super bowl. Appearance you, know he's twenty. Seven, 2844 02:13:42,640 --> 02:13:44,360 Speaker 2: now he, goes they've never been in a Super bowl 2845 02:13:44,400 --> 02:13:46,560 Speaker 2: in my. Lifetime it doesn't change the fact that he's 2846 02:13:46,600 --> 02:13:50,160 Speaker 2: still a die Hard charger. Fan there's a, team and, 2847 02:13:50,360 --> 02:13:52,600 Speaker 2: see this is WHAT i get a lot from people 2848 02:13:52,680 --> 02:13:54,880 Speaker 2: that have listened to me for, YEARS. Vj they're very 2849 02:13:54,960 --> 02:13:58,040 Speaker 2: anxious for me to get on the record with predictions 2850 02:13:58,120 --> 02:14:01,080 Speaker 2: because they go opposite me and they have become very 2851 02:14:01,200 --> 02:14:03,680 Speaker 2: rich off that for many many. Years So i'm not 2852 02:14:03,880 --> 02:14:06,360 Speaker 2: quite to that, point but there is one team out 2853 02:14:06,440 --> 02:14:09,840 Speaker 2: there That i'm very intrigued. With it was a TEAM 2854 02:14:09,920 --> 02:14:13,320 Speaker 2: i thought very highly of going into last, season and 2855 02:14:13,480 --> 02:14:15,800 Speaker 2: NOW i feel Like i'm going to repeat either the 2856 02:14:15,880 --> 02:14:18,880 Speaker 2: same mistake Or i'm going to be ahead of the 2857 02:14:19,040 --> 02:14:20,000 Speaker 2: curve with this. 2858 02:14:20,160 --> 02:14:21,840 Speaker 1: Prediction who is? It you'll find? 2859 02:14:21,880 --> 02:14:23,880 Speaker 3: Out this Is Fox Sports, Saturday. 2860 02:14:25,080 --> 02:14:29,000 Speaker 2: Harvin And Husky Fox Sports, saturday coming to live from 2861 02:14:29,040 --> 02:14:30,280 Speaker 2: The Fox Sports radio. 2862 02:14:30,400 --> 02:14:33,280 Speaker 3: Studios hey for the past pregame show every. 2863 02:14:33,320 --> 02:14:37,000 Speaker 2: Weekend tune Into Fox Sports Radio's countdown presented by BET 2864 02:14:37,280 --> 02:14:40,480 Speaker 2: mgm Every saturday And sunday morning from nine am to 2865 02:14:40,640 --> 02:14:44,160 Speaker 2: Noon eastern six to nine Am, pacific counting down all 2866 02:14:44,240 --> 02:14:44,680 Speaker 2: the biggest. 2867 02:14:44,760 --> 02:14:47,760 Speaker 1: Games no better place for you to get prime for 2868 02:14:47,960 --> 02:14:50,960 Speaker 1: all the huge start to THE nfl. 2869 02:14:51,080 --> 02:14:54,720 Speaker 2: Season tune Into countdown presented by BET, mgm Every saturday 2870 02:14:54,760 --> 02:14:57,360 Speaker 2: And sunday morning right here On Fox Sports. 2871 02:14:57,160 --> 02:15:00,320 Speaker 1: Radio and The iHeartRadio. App, yeah those guys will go 2872 02:15:00,360 --> 02:15:03,520 Speaker 1: into overdrive once we get to the start of THE nfl, 2873 02:15:03,760 --> 02:15:06,120 Speaker 1: season that's for. SURE i can't wait either. Minute CAN 2874 02:15:06,120 --> 02:15:08,480 Speaker 1: i say something To Marry ian real? Quick miss you, 2875 02:15:08,600 --> 02:15:11,120 Speaker 1: GUYS i, do, MAN i miss you. Guys we used 2876 02:15:11,160 --> 02:15:13,440 Speaker 1: to do the show together for three. Years for three 2877 02:15:13,520 --> 02:15:14,840 Speaker 1: years we Had, MARTIN V jay And. 2878 02:15:14,920 --> 02:15:18,160 Speaker 3: David he's the. Producer she was the. Engineer, mary she's. 2879 02:15:18,160 --> 02:15:20,360 Speaker 1: Slicks she plays certain, music like you notice how the 2880 02:15:20,440 --> 02:15:22,760 Speaker 1: music changed once she got behind the. Board she does 2881 02:15:22,920 --> 02:15:25,920 Speaker 1: that from why and she knows she's waiting to see 2882 02:15:26,000 --> 02:15:28,920 Speaker 1: my reaction and she's waiting to play a certain beat. 2883 02:15:28,760 --> 02:15:29,120 Speaker 3: To see my. 2884 02:15:29,240 --> 02:15:32,120 Speaker 1: REACTION i MISS i miss you, well AND i missed 2885 02:15:32,160 --> 02:15:34,800 Speaker 1: that about being in here with, You Mary mac for, 2886 02:15:34,960 --> 02:15:38,440 Speaker 1: me my girl will dig into the. ARCHIVES i mean. 2887 02:15:40,040 --> 02:15:41,280 Speaker 3: She'll Play Betty davis. 2888 02:15:41,440 --> 02:15:45,360 Speaker 1: Eyes you, know come, on that's that's good you guys. 2889 02:15:45,640 --> 02:15:47,960 Speaker 1: Way but that's good stuff. Though but your hip, Though, 2890 02:15:47,960 --> 02:15:49,960 Speaker 1: steve you know you know about some explosive you know 2891 02:15:50,080 --> 02:15:52,880 Speaker 1: you know you was, WELL i have twenty three twenty something. 2892 02:15:53,040 --> 02:15:55,400 Speaker 1: KIDS i, MEAN i am exposed to certain, things you, 2893 02:15:55,440 --> 02:15:57,400 Speaker 1: KNOW i have to sort of pay attention. To All, 2894 02:15:57,480 --> 02:15:59,160 Speaker 1: Right SO i wanted to imagine this thing because coming, 2895 02:15:59,200 --> 02:16:01,240 Speaker 1: up we're gonna do a little quarterback thing coming up. 2896 02:16:01,240 --> 02:16:03,640 Speaker 2: HERE i want to stay with a. Team, okay, Okay 2897 02:16:04,040 --> 02:16:06,480 Speaker 2: so this team a year ago was my pick to 2898 02:16:06,520 --> 02:16:08,680 Speaker 2: win The Super. Bowl it's, right you, know on the 2899 02:16:08,760 --> 02:16:10,800 Speaker 2: sheet we have our sheet here At Fox sports ready 2900 02:16:10,840 --> 02:16:11,959 Speaker 2: got to write all your predictions. 2901 02:16:12,040 --> 02:16:13,200 Speaker 1: Down AND. 2902 02:16:15,080 --> 02:16:17,320 Speaker 2: I am getting the sense again that this team is 2903 02:16:17,360 --> 02:16:19,280 Speaker 2: going to have the kind of, season maybe not win 2904 02:16:19,360 --> 02:16:21,920 Speaker 2: the Super, bowl but certainly a lot better than a 2905 02:16:22,000 --> 02:16:24,040 Speaker 2: lot of people are. Predicting AND i know it seems 2906 02:16:24,160 --> 02:16:26,640 Speaker 2: like ridiculous in light of what's happening with his team right, 2907 02:16:26,720 --> 02:16:31,200 Speaker 2: Now but because of, That i'm more convinced than ever 2908 02:16:32,360 --> 02:16:35,040 Speaker 2: that The Dallas cowboys are going to be with one 2909 02:16:35,080 --> 02:16:38,039 Speaker 2: of the bounce back teams of THE nfl this. Season 2910 02:16:38,200 --> 02:16:40,880 Speaker 2: everyone's talking about the forty nine. Ers could well. HAPPEN 2911 02:16:40,959 --> 02:16:42,920 Speaker 2: i say this about the forty nine. Ers you got 2912 02:16:43,040 --> 02:16:45,560 Speaker 2: to Keep christian McCaffrey. Healthy, right you don't have a healthy, 2913 02:16:45,720 --> 02:16:49,120 Speaker 2: McCaffrey forget, it no. Shot but with The cowboys And 2914 02:16:49,280 --> 02:16:51,760 Speaker 2: dak who was running up FOR, mvp a couple of years. 2915 02:16:51,800 --> 02:16:55,600 Speaker 2: Ago understand this about The Micah parsons. SITUATION i don't 2916 02:16:55,640 --> 02:16:58,880 Speaker 2: understand why this is such a big. Story he has no. 2917 02:16:59,320 --> 02:17:04,200 Speaker 2: Bargaining he is under contract this season with The. Cowboys 2918 02:17:04,600 --> 02:17:08,760 Speaker 2: if he doesn't, play he's losing paychecks and they can 2919 02:17:08,879 --> 02:17:11,920 Speaker 2: control him for two more years by franchise tagging. 2920 02:17:12,040 --> 02:17:13,680 Speaker 1: Him he's not gonna get. 2921 02:17:13,720 --> 02:17:18,320 Speaker 2: Traded there's no trading To. Micah Jerry jones is holding 2922 02:17:18,440 --> 02:17:22,000 Speaker 2: all the. Cards and why is why is he being. 2923 02:17:21,920 --> 02:17:26,039 Speaker 1: Hesitant because he Made Dak prescott the highest paid quarterback 2924 02:17:26,080 --> 02:17:26,959 Speaker 1: in the league and when did it. 2925 02:17:27,040 --> 02:17:27,600 Speaker 3: Get him last? 2926 02:17:27,680 --> 02:17:30,440 Speaker 1: Year? Nothing and he got. 2927 02:17:30,520 --> 02:17:33,880 Speaker 2: Hurt so, yeah he's a little out of joined, about you, 2928 02:17:34,000 --> 02:17:37,520 Speaker 2: know maxing out contracts when you're coming off a losing. 2929 02:17:38,400 --> 02:17:42,200 Speaker 3: Season but that doesn't change The Michael. 2930 02:17:42,240 --> 02:17:44,800 Speaker 2: Parsons Michael parsons will be A cowboy unless he decides 2931 02:17:44,840 --> 02:17:46,920 Speaker 2: he doesn't want to play and forfeit. 2932 02:17:46,680 --> 02:17:48,840 Speaker 3: All his, salary which is not going to. Happen, Okay 2933 02:17:49,400 --> 02:17:50,720 Speaker 3: Michael parsons will, play. 2934 02:17:50,640 --> 02:17:53,800 Speaker 1: He'll get it all. Back then eventually he will get. 2935 02:17:53,840 --> 02:17:57,560 Speaker 2: Back because of, THAT i think this is going to 2936 02:17:57,600 --> 02:18:00,039 Speaker 2: be a very Motivated cowboys. 2937 02:17:59,640 --> 02:18:01,600 Speaker 1: Team in twenty twenty. 2938 02:18:01,720 --> 02:18:05,360 Speaker 2: Five and remember again it's been twenty years since we 2939 02:18:05,480 --> 02:18:08,959 Speaker 2: had a repeat winner of the. Nfcast so on, paper 2940 02:18:09,120 --> 02:18:12,120 Speaker 2: it would appear that The eagles should walk to an 2941 02:18:12,200 --> 02:18:15,760 Speaker 2: EASY Nfc east. Title i'm not saying they're gonna take 2942 02:18:15,800 --> 02:18:18,800 Speaker 2: a step. Back people talked about The. Commanders i'm not 2943 02:18:18,879 --> 02:18:20,640 Speaker 2: so sure they can do what they did a year 2944 02:18:20,680 --> 02:18:23,080 Speaker 2: ago because they're not gonna sneak up on anybody this. 2945 02:18:23,280 --> 02:18:26,240 Speaker 2: Year The giants are, awful but The, cowboys to, me 2946 02:18:26,520 --> 02:18:29,480 Speaker 2: still on, paper should be a lot better. 2947 02:18:29,360 --> 02:18:30,440 Speaker 1: Than they saw last. 2948 02:18:30,520 --> 02:18:34,160 Speaker 2: Year SO i Maybe i'm, wrong but if WHEN i 2949 02:18:34,240 --> 02:18:38,480 Speaker 2: look at over unders and, Wins i'm going over over 2950 02:18:38,879 --> 02:18:42,320 Speaker 2: over on The Dallas cowboys in twenty twenty, Five, well 2951 02:18:42,400 --> 02:18:43,600 Speaker 2: the schedule makers were kind to. 2952 02:18:43,640 --> 02:18:45,720 Speaker 1: Them so let's just start that the schedule makers are 2953 02:18:45,760 --> 02:18:47,360 Speaker 1: coming for and they do start out with The. Eagles 2954 02:18:47,760 --> 02:18:49,720 Speaker 1: but some numbers about The, eagles because The eagles are 2955 02:18:49,720 --> 02:18:52,280 Speaker 1: a team that's, very very very interesting to me this, 2956 02:18:52,400 --> 02:18:54,480 Speaker 1: year and not just because they had Defending Super bowl 2957 02:18:54,560 --> 02:18:56,840 Speaker 1: champions up that they embarrass The Kansas City. Chiefs see 2958 02:18:56,920 --> 02:18:59,400 Speaker 1: WHAT i did, There chiefs listener, man whatever your name. 2959 02:18:59,480 --> 02:19:01,920 Speaker 1: Was after the embarrassed The chiefs in The Super bowl 2960 02:19:02,640 --> 02:19:05,960 Speaker 1: they did start with ten draft. Picks this, year they 2961 02:19:06,080 --> 02:19:10,520 Speaker 1: bought in twenty unsigned free agents and THEY i believe 2962 02:19:10,600 --> 02:19:13,040 Speaker 1: thirteen draft picks next. Year they have a lot of new, 2963 02:19:13,120 --> 02:19:15,560 Speaker 1: pieces a lot of young guys that they wanted to 2964 02:19:15,640 --> 02:19:18,320 Speaker 1: get younger this. YEAR i don't know if that team 2965 02:19:18,360 --> 02:19:20,360 Speaker 1: can actually go back to the Super. Bowl BUT i 2966 02:19:20,440 --> 02:19:23,440 Speaker 1: do not expect The eagles to fall off the map 2967 02:19:23,640 --> 02:19:26,760 Speaker 1: Unless Jalen hurts gets hurt like it had two years 2968 02:19:26,800 --> 02:19:30,039 Speaker 1: ago after The Super, Bowl, Right Jalen hurt got hurt 2969 02:19:30,120 --> 02:19:32,920 Speaker 1: and really played through that injury all year. Long it 2970 02:19:33,080 --> 02:19:35,680 Speaker 1: culminated to a playoff loss At Tampa, bay and then 2971 02:19:35,720 --> 02:19:37,280 Speaker 1: people are, like, oh last year was a flukeing up 2972 02:19:37,320 --> 02:19:40,039 Speaker 1: the final, year he's, healthy he gets Sa Kwan barkley 2973 02:19:40,160 --> 02:19:42,480 Speaker 1: runs for two thousand. Yards then they get to the 2974 02:19:42,560 --> 02:19:45,800 Speaker 1: Super bowl and they win. It they cash And dallas 2975 02:19:46,040 --> 02:19:48,760 Speaker 1: is a question mark for me BECAUSE i just you 2976 02:19:48,879 --> 02:19:50,160 Speaker 1: get back, back, okay so let's go. 2977 02:19:50,240 --> 02:19:53,520 Speaker 3: There so you get that question, mark so get your quarterback. 2978 02:19:53,600 --> 02:19:56,560 Speaker 1: Back BUT i Just i've never been a believer ceed. 2979 02:19:56,680 --> 02:19:58,440 Speaker 1: LAMB i don't care about the. NUMBERS i don't care 2980 02:19:58,440 --> 02:20:00,560 Speaker 1: about the record season. Numbers when you put the tape 2981 02:20:00,600 --> 02:20:03,960 Speaker 1: on he loses interest in, games he. Wanders he's an 2982 02:20:04,080 --> 02:20:07,640 Speaker 1: average route. Runner he's not A chris route. Runner you 2983 02:20:07,760 --> 02:20:10,080 Speaker 1: gotta be that to be able to be productive every 2984 02:20:10,200 --> 02:20:12,480 Speaker 1: single time you step out on the. Field and he 2985 02:20:12,600 --> 02:20:14,960 Speaker 1: still has a case of the drop seats, sometimes and 2986 02:20:15,080 --> 02:20:18,119 Speaker 1: that just worries. Me Number, two they might have one 2987 02:20:18,160 --> 02:20:20,720 Speaker 1: of the worst running back rooms in the league right. Now, 2988 02:20:23,080 --> 02:20:27,520 Speaker 1: javontai what come, on, Man? LIKE i, mean if he 2989 02:20:27,640 --> 02:20:29,400 Speaker 1: was that, good he would have been starting somewhere else. 2990 02:20:29,440 --> 02:20:32,000 Speaker 1: Already running back is not one of these positioned guys 2991 02:20:32,040 --> 02:20:34,440 Speaker 1: that you find a guy that was on three or 2992 02:20:34,480 --> 02:20:37,400 Speaker 1: four other teams or two other teams and somehow he 2993 02:20:37,560 --> 02:20:38,680 Speaker 1: gets to you and just. 2994 02:20:38,840 --> 02:20:40,760 Speaker 3: Explodes do you find an undrafted? 2995 02:20:40,840 --> 02:20:41,000 Speaker 7: Guy? 2996 02:20:41,120 --> 02:20:44,160 Speaker 1: Yeah do you find A Mike anderson or In Orlandis Gary, Like, 2997 02:20:44,280 --> 02:20:46,320 Speaker 1: yeah you, do but not a guy that's been on 2998 02:20:46,400 --> 02:20:48,200 Speaker 1: a bunch of other teams and has some injuries or 2999 02:20:48,240 --> 02:20:50,560 Speaker 1: has some. Carries and then you finally get him and 3000 02:20:50,680 --> 02:20:54,320 Speaker 1: you unlocked Pans Doris box about his running back possibilities and. 3001 02:20:54,400 --> 02:20:56,000 Speaker 3: Abilities that's just not gonna. 3002 02:20:56,040 --> 02:20:59,200 Speaker 1: Happen that's. There then you do have This mica thing 3003 02:20:59,560 --> 02:21:02,480 Speaker 1: that is still floating over, them and let's not act 3004 02:21:02,600 --> 02:21:05,440 Speaker 1: like When Dan quinn walked out the building to The Nation's. 3005 02:21:05,520 --> 02:21:09,760 Speaker 1: Capitol that defense didn't feel. It it's it's gonna be tough. 3006 02:21:09,840 --> 02:21:12,520 Speaker 1: Sledding but once, again did schedule makers help? Them you? 3007 02:21:12,600 --> 02:21:15,039 Speaker 1: Did The giants are. Terrible dallas gets them the following. 3008 02:21:15,080 --> 02:21:17,400 Speaker 1: Week then they're At, chicago WHO i think is gonna 3009 02:21:17,440 --> 02:21:20,440 Speaker 1: be terrible home against The. Packers coin flip game at The, 3010 02:21:20,560 --> 02:21:24,440 Speaker 1: jets coin flip game at The, Panthers, Commanders, broncos And. 3011 02:21:24,520 --> 02:21:27,920 Speaker 1: Cardinals is how they start their first eight. GAMES i 3012 02:21:28,040 --> 02:21:31,400 Speaker 1: could see four and. FOUR i can't, see Like francis 3013 02:21:31,480 --> 02:21:33,480 Speaker 1: that game up with The. Jets that's a defense up. 3014 02:21:33,480 --> 02:21:35,320 Speaker 2: There he's got to HOPE i can Get right, now 3015 02:21:36,200 --> 02:21:38,600 Speaker 2: The cowboys at seven and a half over over. 3016 02:21:38,760 --> 02:21:40,480 Speaker 3: Under can they get to eight and? 3017 02:21:40,600 --> 02:21:46,280 Speaker 1: Nine, yes, yes that's What i'm, saying, Right but that 3018 02:21:46,440 --> 02:21:48,600 Speaker 1: doesn't mean that's still a question mark for. 3019 02:21:48,720 --> 02:21:51,320 Speaker 3: Me are they a nine win team or are. 3020 02:21:51,280 --> 02:21:55,760 Speaker 1: They at twelve one? Too because that in twelve thirteen, games, 3021 02:21:55,800 --> 02:21:58,119 Speaker 1: guys that's all that. Does the way this league works 3022 02:21:58,200 --> 02:21:58,480 Speaker 1: is very. 3023 02:21:58,560 --> 02:22:01,960 Speaker 2: Simple the differ between seven and ten and ten and 3024 02:22:02,080 --> 02:22:04,199 Speaker 2: seven is a couple of, bounces, right an. 3025 02:22:04,160 --> 02:22:05,640 Speaker 3: Injury, Here it happens all the. 3026 02:22:05,800 --> 02:22:06,000 Speaker 4: Time. 3027 02:22:06,240 --> 02:22:08,520 Speaker 3: Everything it's, like why did this team goes seven and? 3028 02:22:08,600 --> 02:22:09,560 Speaker 3: Ten why is this team? 3029 02:22:09,640 --> 02:22:13,920 Speaker 1: Ten and a couple of? Bounces that's it, there that's. 3030 02:22:13,959 --> 02:22:16,040 Speaker 1: It there's not a lot to. 3031 02:22:16,160 --> 02:22:18,160 Speaker 2: Differentiate you're always going to have the you, know the 3032 02:22:18,240 --> 02:22:21,320 Speaker 2: fourteen win teams or the fourteen loss. Teams those teams 3033 02:22:21,400 --> 02:22:24,120 Speaker 2: are who they. Are the rest of it is the 3034 02:22:24,200 --> 02:22:26,320 Speaker 2: middle of the. Pack seven and, ten ten and, seven 3035 02:22:26,360 --> 02:22:28,640 Speaker 2: a couple of. Bounces either, way you're either you, know 3036 02:22:28,760 --> 02:22:30,520 Speaker 2: sneaking in as a wild card or you're on the 3037 02:22:30,560 --> 02:22:31,199 Speaker 2: outside looking. 3038 02:22:31,280 --> 02:22:34,320 Speaker 1: IN i just think that, somehow some, way The chips 3039 02:22:34,360 --> 02:22:37,359 Speaker 1: are going to fall The cowboys when not making predictions, 3040 02:22:37,440 --> 02:22:39,240 Speaker 1: yet but just don't win out. There for The cowboys right, 3041 02:22:39,280 --> 02:22:41,680 Speaker 1: now they can win ten. Games if they can Keep 3042 02:22:41,760 --> 02:22:44,280 Speaker 1: Dak prescott, healthy they can win ten. Games, well you guys, 3043 02:22:44,400 --> 02:22:46,600 Speaker 1: know All dak does is win double ditchit games like. 3044 02:22:46,720 --> 02:22:49,360 Speaker 1: That that goes thirteen and, three that was twelve thirteen, 3045 02:22:49,400 --> 02:22:51,560 Speaker 1: games got exactly when he plays the whole. Season so 3046 02:22:51,720 --> 02:22:52,280 Speaker 1: that's What i'm. 3047 02:22:52,320 --> 02:22:53,880 Speaker 2: With you look at their running, game they're gonna have 3048 02:22:53,920 --> 02:22:55,680 Speaker 2: to find a right they don't have a running. Back 3049 02:22:55,720 --> 02:22:58,080 Speaker 2: they've had some you, know they've had to rebuild their offensive. 3050 02:22:58,120 --> 02:22:59,920 Speaker 2: Line they've got a lot of rebuilding to do. 3051 02:23:00,080 --> 02:23:03,360 Speaker 1: There but you still have a quarterback, that, again just 3052 02:23:03,400 --> 02:23:05,520 Speaker 1: two years, ago was runner up for M. Vp SO i, 3053 02:23:05,840 --> 02:23:06,360 Speaker 1: yeah what do. 3054 02:23:06,360 --> 02:23:06,840 Speaker 3: You think about? 3055 02:23:06,879 --> 02:23:12,480 Speaker 2: PICKINGS i, mean, again the receiving, corps it's up your. 3056 02:23:12,560 --> 02:23:16,279 Speaker 2: QUARTERBACK a quarterback can upgrade a receiving a. Lot, Absolutely 3057 02:23:16,440 --> 02:23:18,520 Speaker 2: and so you Know George Picken, YEAH i mean he's a, 3058 02:23:18,560 --> 02:23:19,360 Speaker 2: PLAYER i, know but. 3059 02:23:19,400 --> 02:23:21,600 Speaker 1: It's just he's such a question. Mark that's that they 3060 02:23:21,720 --> 02:23:24,200 Speaker 1: would down ON Cd lamb as you. ARE i, Mean 3061 02:23:24,400 --> 02:23:25,680 Speaker 1: i've always thought, That kay Was. 3062 02:23:28,320 --> 02:23:30,480 Speaker 3: It seems like The cowboys always have receivers like. 3063 02:23:30,560 --> 02:23:32,280 Speaker 1: THAT i remember the first TIME i said, that you 3064 02:23:32,360 --> 02:23:35,480 Speaker 1: were saying that About Amari. Cooper, NO i ACTUALLY i actually, 3065 02:23:35,560 --> 02:23:39,160 Speaker 1: thought well he was there was no reason to trade 3066 02:23:39,240 --> 02:23:42,560 Speaker 1: him and then PAY cd the. Money that's what upset 3067 02:23:42,640 --> 02:23:44,640 Speaker 1: me is the fact that they traded him to PAY. 3068 02:23:44,720 --> 02:23:47,960 Speaker 1: CD i felt like you already had that type of 3069 02:23:48,040 --> 02:23:50,840 Speaker 1: receiver And Amari. Cooper, yeah but A Marik cooper was 3070 02:23:50,920 --> 02:23:52,760 Speaker 1: all over the. Map you know that he was like 3071 02:23:53,080 --> 02:23:55,880 Speaker 1: phenomenal one, year he would take a step. Back it 3072 02:23:56,000 --> 02:23:58,480 Speaker 1: just seemed like whenever you, know contract time showed, up 3073 02:23:58,840 --> 02:24:01,600 Speaker 1: so Did. Amory all, right let's find out what is 3074 02:24:02,160 --> 02:24:07,240 Speaker 1: trending right. Now Chris purfett is back with more and, 3075 02:24:07,520 --> 02:24:09,240 Speaker 1: uh very busy scoreboard. 3076 02:24:09,280 --> 02:24:12,840 Speaker 9: Today chris like probably the third or fourth most IMPORTANT 3077 02:24:12,920 --> 02:24:16,560 Speaker 9: cp out, there considering how many others seem to have those. 3078 02:24:16,600 --> 02:24:19,120 Speaker 2: Initials but you THINK cp three is going to have 3079 02:24:19,200 --> 02:24:21,680 Speaker 2: any impact on The. CLIPPERS i used TO i was 3080 02:24:21,800 --> 02:24:25,640 Speaker 2: At Wake forest WHEN cp three Was, okay that's you're aging, 3081 02:24:25,720 --> 02:24:27,680 Speaker 2: yourself BECAUSE i, SAID i. 3082 02:24:27,800 --> 02:24:30,600 Speaker 1: Was like going getting close to forty And i'm wearing. 3083 02:24:30,680 --> 02:24:33,119 Speaker 1: CROSS i did not, Know, yes you are wearing cross 3084 02:24:33,480 --> 02:24:36,800 Speaker 1: and And Mary Mary mack told me the little buttons 3085 02:24:36,840 --> 02:24:40,240 Speaker 1: of what he's saying they're called, giblets which sounds like 3086 02:24:40,360 --> 02:24:42,600 Speaker 1: something that black people use the season and stuffing. With 3087 02:24:42,680 --> 02:24:44,960 Speaker 1: i've never heard giblets were like a part of a, 3088 02:24:45,040 --> 02:24:47,840 Speaker 1: chicken right. Something, yeah that that that we used the 3089 02:24:47,920 --> 02:24:49,760 Speaker 1: season giblets made? 3090 02:24:50,520 --> 02:24:54,040 Speaker 9: Whatever, yeah, YEAH i. Know, anyway we do have preseason 3091 02:24:54,120 --> 02:24:57,120 Speaker 9: action going on right. Now Stetson bennett is your quarterback 3092 02:24:57,240 --> 02:25:02,120 Speaker 9: for The, rams uh six for nine right. Now but 3093 02:25:02,959 --> 02:25:08,480 Speaker 9: rookie Quarterback Blake korum for the formerly Of michigan for 3094 02:25:08,720 --> 02:25:11,720 Speaker 9: The La rams has a touchdown run in this, game he's, 3095 02:25:11,879 --> 02:25:15,000 Speaker 9: Five he's got five carries for twenty three, yards long 3096 02:25:15,080 --> 02:25:18,720 Speaker 9: of nine and that touchdown. Run go blames up seven 3097 02:25:19,080 --> 02:25:23,640 Speaker 9: nothing Early, actually late in the first quarter against The Dallas, 3098 02:25:23,879 --> 02:25:27,040 Speaker 9: cowboys we said That Aaron rodgers and the and the 3099 02:25:27,160 --> 02:25:30,320 Speaker 9: starters For Pittsburgh steelers not playing. Well no problem so, 3100 02:25:30,440 --> 02:25:33,039 Speaker 9: far seven to three right now early. On Mason rudolph 3101 02:25:33,240 --> 02:25:37,640 Speaker 9: is perfect of seven for seven seventy yards and a touchdown. 3102 02:25:37,800 --> 02:25:40,920 Speaker 9: Pass Trevor lawrence getting some action six of seven for 3103 02:25:41,040 --> 02:25:45,080 Speaker 9: forty three, yards And Travis hunters got himself two, targets two, 3104 02:25:45,160 --> 02:25:47,879 Speaker 9: catches nine yards so, far starting him off a little 3105 02:25:47,959 --> 02:25:51,920 Speaker 9: easy seven to three right now on that. Scoreboard, Earlier Jackson, 3106 02:25:52,040 --> 02:25:54,440 Speaker 9: dart who was the first round pick for The New York, 3107 02:25:54,600 --> 02:25:58,040 Speaker 9: giants played for the entire first half against The bills 3108 02:25:58,200 --> 02:26:01,760 Speaker 9: twelve of, nineteen one hundred and fifty four. Yards yankees 3109 02:26:01,760 --> 02:26:04,280 Speaker 9: And astros traded, leads but it Was Trenton grisham's solo 3110 02:26:04,360 --> 02:26:06,640 Speaker 9: home run in the eighth that put the game in 3111 02:26:06,840 --> 02:26:09,400 Speaker 9: the barn for The Bronx bombers five to. Four and 3112 02:26:09,520 --> 02:26:12,959 Speaker 9: during The Old timers, Game Mariano, rivera The Old Time 3113 02:26:13,280 --> 02:26:17,840 Speaker 9: yankees Closer Enter sandman tore his acl according to his 3114 02:26:17,920 --> 02:26:22,880 Speaker 9: agent in a comment to The. Athletics so, hey the 3115 02:26:23,280 --> 02:26:27,959 Speaker 9: injury woes for The yankees continue in multiple multiple. Ways 3116 02:26:28,280 --> 02:26:32,119 Speaker 9: elsewhere on the baseball, scoreboard The angels have a four 3117 02:26:32,160 --> 02:26:34,040 Speaker 9: to two lead in the bottom of the fourth against 3118 02:26:34,040 --> 02:26:37,320 Speaker 9: The Detroit. Tigers pittsburgh's up one nothing bottom of the 3119 02:26:37,400 --> 02:26:39,920 Speaker 9: third on The Cincinnati reds end of the. Third excuse, 3120 02:26:40,040 --> 02:26:43,400 Speaker 9: Me baltimore and The, athletics Baltim The orioles got a 3121 02:26:43,480 --> 02:26:46,320 Speaker 9: three to two lead top of the second, inning and 3122 02:26:46,640 --> 02:26:49,360 Speaker 9: earlier On nationals defeated The giants four to. 3123 02:26:49,600 --> 02:26:53,280 Speaker 1: Two all, Right STEVE. Vj back to you. Guys all, Right, 3124 02:26:53,400 --> 02:26:55,040 Speaker 1: chris thank you very very. 3125 02:26:55,360 --> 02:26:59,200 Speaker 2: Much once, Again hartman And husky, here we're coming live 3126 02:26:59,240 --> 02:27:01,640 Speaker 2: from The Fox Sports radio. Studios don't forget after the. 3127 02:27:01,720 --> 02:27:03,760 Speaker 2: Show the podcast is going. Up so if you miss 3128 02:27:04,000 --> 02:27:07,440 Speaker 2: any of today's, show check out the. Podcast just Search 3129 02:27:07,520 --> 02:27:10,200 Speaker 2: Fox Sports radio wherever you get your. Podcasts follow a 3130 02:27:10,280 --> 02:27:13,160 Speaker 2: review of the, podcast give it a five star. Rating, 3131 02:27:13,760 --> 02:27:15,920 Speaker 2: again just Search Fox Sports radio wherever you get your. 3132 02:27:15,959 --> 02:27:19,120 Speaker 2: Podcasts see today's show posted right after we get off the. 3133 02:27:19,200 --> 02:27:21,640 Speaker 2: Air all, RIGHT i want everybody in on this right. Now, 3134 02:27:21,959 --> 02:27:24,920 Speaker 2: Okay So vjen AND i were talking earlier that there 3135 02:27:24,959 --> 02:27:28,520 Speaker 2: are four quarterbacks that have differentiated themselves from the rest 3136 02:27:28,560 --> 02:27:31,800 Speaker 2: of the. PACK i don't think anyone's arguing About Patrick, 3137 02:27:31,920 --> 02:27:34,840 Speaker 2: Mahomes Lamar, Jackson Josh, allen And Joe burrow are just 3138 02:27:35,040 --> 02:27:38,840 Speaker 2: that is. Right that's THE a level. Yep, OKAY i 3139 02:27:38,959 --> 02:27:42,039 Speaker 2: want to hear from. Everybody Mary, mack you can get 3140 02:27:42,080 --> 02:27:45,280 Speaker 2: in as. Well gonna Get chris As Mike. OPEN i 3141 02:27:45,600 --> 02:27:49,280 Speaker 2: ready to. Go are we all good with? Those is 3142 02:27:49,360 --> 02:27:51,240 Speaker 2: the four best? Quarterbacks any argument on? 3143 02:27:51,360 --> 02:27:52,880 Speaker 1: That run me down again for. 3144 02:27:52,959 --> 02:27:56,840 Speaker 2: Me, Mahomes Lamar, Jackson Josh allen And Joe burrow again 3145 02:27:57,320 --> 02:28:00,400 Speaker 2: good to. Me they are clear from everybody. Else Agree 3146 02:28:00,520 --> 02:28:02,200 Speaker 2: pat out of respect and for what he's. 3147 02:28:02,240 --> 02:28:06,279 Speaker 3: Doing and second, one it's still it's still number, one, Right, Okay. 3148 02:28:06,120 --> 02:28:09,040 Speaker 1: WELL i Just I'm i'm eliminating those. FOUR i got. 3149 02:28:09,120 --> 02:28:14,360 Speaker 2: You so the question now is, this which quarterback is number? 3150 02:28:14,560 --> 02:28:17,760 Speaker 2: Five so we got the top. Four you can put 3151 02:28:17,840 --> 02:28:21,320 Speaker 2: in whatever you already you. Want, Mahomes, Jackson Alan, burrow 3152 02:28:22,240 --> 02:28:28,240 Speaker 2: who is number five currently quarterback in THE? Nfl Mary, 3153 02:28:28,320 --> 02:28:30,840 Speaker 2: mac do you have a choice for the number five 3154 02:28:31,200 --> 02:28:32,360 Speaker 2: quarterback currently in THE. 3155 02:28:32,480 --> 02:28:35,840 Speaker 1: Nfl, hey, NO i don't thank, You Mary. MAC i 3156 02:28:35,959 --> 02:28:39,720 Speaker 1: love her. Honesty Young, no, no, no, no wait, wait, okay, 3157 02:28:39,720 --> 02:28:41,360 Speaker 1: wait we'll put this in AS jamai And chase play. 3158 02:28:41,680 --> 02:28:42,560 Speaker 1: Receiver he's a wide. 3159 02:28:42,600 --> 02:28:44,680 Speaker 3: RECEIVE i don't even know the. Difference that's all you 3160 02:28:44,800 --> 02:28:45,440 Speaker 3: need to, say. 3161 02:28:45,360 --> 02:28:45,840 Speaker 1: Thank you very. 3162 02:28:45,959 --> 02:28:49,120 Speaker 2: Much all, Right i'll go To Ian. Ian all, Right, 3163 02:28:49,200 --> 02:28:52,720 Speaker 2: ian who is your number five quarterback in THE? 3164 02:28:52,879 --> 02:28:53,400 Speaker 1: Nfl right? 3165 02:28:53,480 --> 02:28:55,800 Speaker 8: Now you, KNOW i thought WHEN i had every quarterback 3166 02:28:55,840 --> 02:28:57,080 Speaker 8: in the league in front of, me this would be 3167 02:28:57,120 --> 02:29:00,040 Speaker 8: a lot easier than when you guys initially. ASKED i 3168 02:29:01,040 --> 02:29:04,080 Speaker 8: didn't make it any. EASIER i Think i'm gonna a 3169 02:29:04,160 --> 02:29:06,800 Speaker 8: tentatively go With Justin, herbert AND i know that the 3170 02:29:06,879 --> 02:29:08,720 Speaker 8: elephant in the room with him is the fact that 3171 02:29:08,920 --> 02:29:11,119 Speaker 8: he hasn't been able to get it, done like at 3172 02:29:11,160 --> 02:29:11,600 Speaker 8: all in the. 3173 02:29:11,640 --> 02:29:13,720 Speaker 1: Playoffs like quite the. Opposite he's been bad in the. 3174 02:29:13,720 --> 02:29:16,840 Speaker 8: Playoffs BUT i don't, know man, LIKE i don't think 3175 02:29:16,879 --> 02:29:19,240 Speaker 8: he's had enough opportunities yet in the playoffs for me 3176 02:29:19,320 --> 02:29:21,960 Speaker 8: to definitively say that he can't get it. Done, yes 3177 02:29:22,040 --> 02:29:23,960 Speaker 8: it was a really bad, showing but it was it, 3178 02:29:24,120 --> 02:29:27,080 Speaker 8: was you, know a one game last year at least 3179 02:29:27,120 --> 02:29:29,920 Speaker 8: the the you, know ugly multiple. Interceptions all, Right so 3180 02:29:30,000 --> 02:29:33,120 Speaker 8: you're going With Justin, Herbert, yes, size, arm. MOBILITY i 3181 02:29:33,280 --> 02:29:36,000 Speaker 8: just think he's he's gone. Everything steve doesn't even have 3182 02:29:36,200 --> 02:29:37,680 Speaker 8: him as a top TEN i. 3183 02:29:37,800 --> 02:29:40,320 Speaker 1: Know i'm not surprised to hear, That. Steve i'm not 3184 02:29:40,360 --> 02:29:40,840 Speaker 1: surprised at. 3185 02:29:40,840 --> 02:29:43,440 Speaker 3: All All, Right so that's, fine that your. 3186 02:29:43,520 --> 02:29:46,720 Speaker 2: Opinion i'm not Gonna everyone has their own. Opinion So 3187 02:29:46,840 --> 02:29:49,480 Speaker 2: ian's in With Justin. Herbert, guy all, Right, chris who 3188 02:29:49,640 --> 02:29:51,720 Speaker 2: is your number five? Quarterback Like? 3189 02:29:51,879 --> 02:29:52,119 Speaker 1: Ian? 3190 02:29:52,560 --> 02:29:55,320 Speaker 9: Like the tier two is, messy, Right LIKE i see 3191 02:29:55,320 --> 02:29:57,040 Speaker 9: some people putting Up jayden And, daniels But i've seen 3192 02:29:57,120 --> 02:29:58,920 Speaker 9: enough of sophomore slumps that he can't be up. There 3193 02:29:59,280 --> 02:30:01,720 Speaker 9: matthew Staff i'd love to say if he was, healthy 3194 02:30:01,800 --> 02:30:03,640 Speaker 9: but the problem is at this point In stafford's, career 3195 02:30:03,920 --> 02:30:05,880 Speaker 9: he can't be healthy no matter. 3196 02:30:06,000 --> 02:30:06,960 Speaker 1: What AND i Love. 3197 02:30:07,080 --> 02:30:12,400 Speaker 9: STAFFORD a lot of guys look. Up that's ultimately the issue. 3198 02:30:12,480 --> 02:30:16,400 Speaker 9: There Justin Herbert, AGAIN i feel Like Justin herbert's To 3199 02:30:16,600 --> 02:30:19,119 Speaker 9: ian's point is kind of in That Matt stafford territory 3200 02:30:19,120 --> 02:30:21,840 Speaker 9: Where Matt stafford was with The, lions where you see 3201 02:30:21,879 --> 02:30:24,200 Speaker 9: all the, talent you see everything he's, done he just 3202 02:30:24,240 --> 02:30:26,280 Speaker 9: doesn't get a lot of national attention because it's with 3203 02:30:26,360 --> 02:30:28,160 Speaker 9: a team that not a lot of people either care, 3204 02:30:28,200 --> 02:30:30,880 Speaker 9: about or it's the playoff bomb, outs Which stafford had 3205 02:30:30,920 --> 02:30:33,440 Speaker 9: before he came to The. Rams so it's kind of 3206 02:30:33,520 --> 02:30:36,240 Speaker 9: The it's kind of a similar situation With herbert AND 3207 02:30:36,360 --> 02:30:38,840 Speaker 9: i want to go, there BUT i really think at 3208 02:30:38,879 --> 02:30:41,600 Speaker 9: the end of the, day at the end of the, 3209 02:30:41,720 --> 02:30:44,600 Speaker 9: day we just do not do not do not give 3210 02:30:44,680 --> 02:30:46,039 Speaker 9: enough credit To Jalen. 3211 02:30:45,840 --> 02:30:48,680 Speaker 3: Hursts because of what he does on the, field how 3212 02:30:48,760 --> 02:30:49,360 Speaker 3: he takes over the. 3213 02:30:49,400 --> 02:30:52,080 Speaker 9: Game everyone talks, About, oh it's a great roster around, him, 3214 02:30:52,080 --> 02:30:54,000 Speaker 9: sure but they're all great rosters at the top of 3215 02:30:54,120 --> 02:30:58,120 Speaker 9: this league. Too Lamar jackson's got a great roster. Too Jalen, 3216 02:30:58,200 --> 02:31:01,320 Speaker 9: hurts the is the draw that stirs that drink In, 3217 02:31:01,480 --> 02:31:05,960 Speaker 9: philadelphia his, physicality everything about. HIM i know he doesn't 3218 02:31:05,959 --> 02:31:08,840 Speaker 9: putting up the eye popping, numbers but that's a MAN 3219 02:31:08,879 --> 02:31:09,560 Speaker 9: i want running the. 3220 02:31:09,600 --> 02:31:10,160 Speaker 1: Team and he's my. 3221 02:31:10,240 --> 02:31:13,280 Speaker 2: Number, five all, Right Jalen, hurts you jumped up when 3222 02:31:13,320 --> 02:31:14,880 Speaker 2: he said that because that's my number. 3223 02:31:14,920 --> 02:31:17,200 Speaker 3: Five, well by the, way CAN i just interject he's 3224 02:31:17,240 --> 02:31:17,920 Speaker 3: also my number? 3225 02:31:17,959 --> 02:31:21,560 Speaker 1: Five thank? You, wow that's What i'm talking, about you, 3226 02:31:21,600 --> 02:31:24,160 Speaker 1: know and again thank. You now this is not to 3227 02:31:24,280 --> 02:31:28,480 Speaker 1: say that a guy Like Justin herbert either right at. 3228 02:31:28,520 --> 02:31:32,480 Speaker 2: All when you talk about the tools necessary to be 3229 02:31:32,840 --> 02:31:38,400 Speaker 2: a great passing, quarterback Certainly herbert checks all the. Boxes but, 3230 02:31:38,600 --> 02:31:41,240 Speaker 2: again quarterback to me is is there are a number 3231 02:31:41,280 --> 02:31:44,440 Speaker 2: of factors. Here and the thing About Jalen hurts is 3232 02:31:44,520 --> 02:31:47,880 Speaker 2: that leadership. Factor that AND i you, KNOW i have 3233 02:31:47,959 --> 02:31:51,800 Speaker 2: been a proponent For Jalen hurts ever since he sat 3234 02:31:51,920 --> 02:31:55,400 Speaker 2: on the bench At alabama for a full, year having 3235 02:31:55,440 --> 02:31:58,160 Speaker 2: to Watch Tua tongue Of iiloa takeover after you, know 3236 02:31:58,280 --> 02:32:02,320 Speaker 2: being the starting quarterback for two, years never said, anything 3237 02:32:02,959 --> 02:32:06,760 Speaker 2: took his, medicine transfer To oklahoma run or up for 3238 02:32:06,879 --> 02:32:09,960 Speaker 2: The Heisman. TROPHY i said going, IN i, SAID i 3239 02:32:10,040 --> 02:32:12,640 Speaker 2: MEAN i used to ask this question Of hurts going 3240 02:32:12,680 --> 02:32:15,400 Speaker 2: into THE, nfl give me a ceiling on this, guy 3241 02:32:15,879 --> 02:32:18,280 Speaker 2: because that's What i'm trying to. Do i'm trying to draft. 3242 02:32:18,360 --> 02:32:20,520 Speaker 2: Somebody i'm, like where do you see this guy? Ceiling 3243 02:32:20,600 --> 02:32:22,440 Speaker 2: and everyone really had a hard time with. 3244 02:32:22,560 --> 02:32:23,119 Speaker 1: It they didn't. 3245 02:32:23,200 --> 02:32:26,120 Speaker 2: Know ALL i had to do is listen To Jalen 3246 02:32:26,200 --> 02:32:28,880 Speaker 2: hurts AND i, go this guy's a born, leader he 3247 02:32:29,000 --> 02:32:30,040 Speaker 2: will be successful in this. 3248 02:32:30,200 --> 02:32:32,640 Speaker 1: League so, YES i am one hundred percent With hurts 3249 02:32:32,879 --> 02:32:35,280 Speaker 1: at number. Five and that's why Again i'm glad my 3250 02:32:35,440 --> 02:32:37,440 Speaker 1: Guy ian is in here today because he is a 3251 02:32:37,520 --> 02:32:40,680 Speaker 1: witness to someone who has Been Pom pom pushing For 3252 02:32:40,920 --> 02:32:44,720 Speaker 1: Jalen hurts for the last three. Seasons for people to 3253 02:32:44,840 --> 02:32:48,720 Speaker 1: give this guy his damn respect once, again just put 3254 02:32:48,800 --> 02:32:51,080 Speaker 1: the tape. On, yes and this is not the Not. 3255 02:32:51,240 --> 02:32:55,640 Speaker 1: Herbert herbert has all the measurables, Right he's got all the. 3256 02:32:55,720 --> 02:32:58,800 Speaker 1: Talent he's definitely in my top. Ten unlike to my 3257 02:32:58,840 --> 02:33:00,840 Speaker 1: guy sitting to my. LEFT i lets youreus co host 3258 02:33:00,879 --> 02:33:03,040 Speaker 1: here who doesn't have him, there but we're splitting hairs 3259 02:33:03,080 --> 02:33:06,119 Speaker 1: on that And Trevor. Lawrence But Jalen hurts not only 3260 02:33:06,160 --> 02:33:09,080 Speaker 1: has been to The Super bowl. Twice let's not forget 3261 02:33:09,200 --> 02:33:12,200 Speaker 1: even the game he, lost he Outplayed Pat. Mahomes he's 3262 02:33:12,280 --> 02:33:16,400 Speaker 1: out Played Pat mahomes twice in two Separate Super, bowls 3263 02:33:16,680 --> 02:33:20,640 Speaker 1: handing him a natural expeditiously asked whooping last year the 3264 02:33:20,720 --> 02:33:23,960 Speaker 1: way that he did Winning Super BOWL. Mvp all the 3265 02:33:24,080 --> 02:33:27,800 Speaker 1: things we ask quarterbacks to, do but for some, reason 3266 02:33:28,240 --> 02:33:31,640 Speaker 1: when certain quarterbacks do what fans want them to, do 3267 02:33:32,320 --> 02:33:36,240 Speaker 1: we are to find every reason why somebody else was the, 3268 02:33:36,320 --> 02:33:40,600 Speaker 1: reason as If Joe montana didn't Have rice And taylor 3269 02:33:40,879 --> 02:33:43,280 Speaker 1: And Bred jones And Roger craig who happened to be 3270 02:33:43,400 --> 02:33:45,640 Speaker 1: the first running back IN nfl history to go for 3271 02:33:45,920 --> 02:33:48,920 Speaker 1: gag through the air and on the, ground Like Kurt 3272 02:33:49,000 --> 02:33:51,800 Speaker 1: warner didn't Have Ozier kim And Isai bruce And Tory, 3273 02:33:51,920 --> 02:33:55,560 Speaker 1: hall like great quarterbacks don't have. Weapons but we've seen 3274 02:33:55,640 --> 02:33:58,200 Speaker 1: quarterbacks with weapons and still can't get it. Done and 3275 02:33:58,280 --> 02:33:59,920 Speaker 1: when the guy gets it, done and like you, said 3276 02:34:00,320 --> 02:34:03,320 Speaker 1: just watch how he carries. Himself one of the things 3277 02:34:03,560 --> 02:34:05,400 Speaker 1: about covering The rams and The chargers last, YEAR i 3278 02:34:05,440 --> 02:34:06,920 Speaker 1: told you The chargers always wanted to get to the 3279 02:34:06,959 --> 02:34:08,760 Speaker 1: pres comes gonna Love Jim, harbaugh AND i Love Justin 3280 02:34:08,800 --> 02:34:11,680 Speaker 1: herber And Khalil mack And Derwin, james though those guys 3281 02:34:11,680 --> 02:34:13,199 Speaker 1: are all really good guys and cool. 3282 02:34:13,240 --> 02:34:15,039 Speaker 3: Guys but some of the other, GAMES. 3283 02:34:14,840 --> 02:34:16,640 Speaker 1: I want to get to the visitors' locker room because 3284 02:34:16,760 --> 02:34:18,680 Speaker 1: you don't get a chance to those, guys to see those. 3285 02:34:18,680 --> 02:34:20,080 Speaker 1: Guys and when The ravens came to town AND i 3286 02:34:20,120 --> 02:34:21,920 Speaker 1: did that, game and when The eagles came to the 3287 02:34:22,000 --> 02:34:22,480 Speaker 1: town and did that. 3288 02:34:22,560 --> 02:34:24,560 Speaker 3: GAME i did not do the home locker room or 3289 02:34:24,600 --> 02:34:25,119 Speaker 3: the home press. 3290 02:34:25,120 --> 02:34:27,200 Speaker 1: GOVERMENT i made SURE i went right to the visitors 3291 02:34:27,280 --> 02:34:29,480 Speaker 1: BECAUSE i wanted to talk to The Lamar jackson AND 3292 02:34:29,600 --> 02:34:31,480 Speaker 1: i wanted to get a question out To Jalen hurts 3293 02:34:31,680 --> 02:34:35,280 Speaker 1: and just watching this man handle, himself which? 3294 02:34:35,520 --> 02:34:37,560 Speaker 3: Matters it? Mattered Asks Ryan. 3295 02:34:37,680 --> 02:34:41,120 Speaker 1: Leaf if handling yourself doesn't, Matter Ask Jeff george if 3296 02:34:41,200 --> 02:34:44,560 Speaker 1: handling yourself doesn't matter being a. Quarterback he has done 3297 02:34:44,840 --> 02:34:47,959 Speaker 1: everything he's been asked to, do and for some, reason 3298 02:34:48,200 --> 02:34:50,520 Speaker 1: the guy's been to Two Super. Bowls Josh allen ain't 3299 02:34:50,520 --> 02:34:53,280 Speaker 1: been to, one and we still keep Saying Josh, Allon Josh, 3300 02:34:53,320 --> 02:34:54,520 Speaker 1: Allon Josh Josh. 3301 02:34:54,360 --> 02:34:55,040 Speaker 3: Allen ain't been to. 3302 02:34:55,120 --> 02:34:57,760 Speaker 1: One Jalen hurts has been to two and one one right, There, 3303 02:34:57,840 --> 02:34:59,879 Speaker 1: yes he is number five from, me my number. 3304 02:34:59,879 --> 02:35:03,119 Speaker 2: One i'm gonna tell you one name and this will 3305 02:35:03,320 --> 02:35:06,400 Speaker 2: set you on, fire THAT i would right now place 3306 02:35:06,480 --> 02:35:08,400 Speaker 2: ahead Of Justin. HERBERT i, mean there's a lot of. 3307 02:35:08,440 --> 02:35:10,640 Speaker 2: Guys you can you make an argument for A Jayden 3308 02:35:10,720 --> 02:35:15,040 Speaker 2: daniels Or jordan Lover. Baker mayfield to me IS i 3309 02:35:15,200 --> 02:35:18,800 Speaker 2: am always been A mayfield. Fan seventy one percent completion, 3310 02:35:18,959 --> 02:35:22,160 Speaker 2: percentage forty one touchdown passes last. Year i'll higher Passer 3311 02:35:22,240 --> 02:35:24,960 Speaker 2: raady And Justin. Herbert and here's WHAT i know About Baker. 3312 02:35:25,040 --> 02:35:29,440 Speaker 2: Mayfield he's got more fire in his, gut more fire 3313 02:35:29,480 --> 02:35:31,680 Speaker 2: in his gut because of that perennial chip on his 3314 02:35:31,800 --> 02:35:34,840 Speaker 2: shoulder Than Justin herbert has shown. Me and For herbert 3315 02:35:34,920 --> 02:35:38,440 Speaker 2: to absolutely wilt under the spotlight of that playoff game 3316 02:35:38,480 --> 02:35:40,760 Speaker 2: and throw more interceptions and in one playoff game than 3317 02:35:40,800 --> 02:35:43,879 Speaker 2: he had the entire year he plays At, Say Baker 3318 02:35:43,959 --> 02:35:47,279 Speaker 2: mayfield is a risk. Taker i've always been In mayfield's, 3319 02:35:47,280 --> 02:35:50,600 Speaker 2: corner and, YES i would Rate mayfield ahead Of Justin 3320 02:35:50,680 --> 02:35:51,800 Speaker 2: herbert right now that. 3321 02:35:51,879 --> 02:35:53,760 Speaker 1: We can have that discussion for those, SHOWS i want 3322 02:35:53,800 --> 02:35:55,800 Speaker 1: to go To Josh allen for a. Second i'm, SORRY 3323 02:35:55,800 --> 02:35:57,640 Speaker 1: i gotta throw a monkey wrench in this BECAUSE i 3324 02:35:57,680 --> 02:36:01,480 Speaker 1: got to stick trough to my. Guns why CAN'T i 3325 02:36:01,720 --> 02:36:07,720 Speaker 1: Have Jalen hurts rank hired In Josh allen right there 3326 02:36:10,040 --> 02:36:12,160 Speaker 1: the other. Side think about, it, okay and then you'll 3327 02:36:12,280 --> 02:36:13,680 Speaker 1: then you'll you'll realize why you. 3328 02:36:13,760 --> 02:36:19,880 Speaker 2: Can't that's coming. Up this Is Fox Sports, Saturday Fox Sports, 3329 02:36:19,959 --> 02:36:23,800 Speaker 2: Saturday Steve harbin and V. J. Husky by the, way 3330 02:36:23,879 --> 02:36:28,880 Speaker 2: we'll be back on our normal time, tomorrow which is 3331 02:36:29,800 --> 02:36:33,800 Speaker 2: eleven to two on The west, coast two to five 3332 02:36:34,000 --> 02:36:38,959 Speaker 2: on The East coast Every sunday Here Fox Sports, sunday. 3333 02:36:38,760 --> 02:36:42,400 Speaker 3: Taking, off taking off More chief. Fans hopefully that's. 3334 02:36:42,440 --> 02:36:46,600 Speaker 2: OKAY i want to thank our crew, Today chris stepping 3335 02:36:46,640 --> 02:36:48,560 Speaker 2: in and doing as he does a multitude of. 3336 02:36:48,680 --> 02:36:51,480 Speaker 1: Jobs great job with our updates, Today, chris thank you very. MUCH. 3337 02:36:51,560 --> 02:36:55,800 Speaker 2: Cp mary Mac, well she's a she's a young, legend 3338 02:36:56,000 --> 02:36:59,720 Speaker 2: leon legend. HERE i love the fact that she, admits 3339 02:37:00,120 --> 02:37:03,879 Speaker 2: why AM i talking about SOMETHING i can't give an 3340 02:37:03,879 --> 02:37:06,680 Speaker 2: answer to. That honesty will get you a long way. 3341 02:37:06,760 --> 02:37:07,840 Speaker 3: MARRIAGE i did look at the list. 3342 02:37:07,920 --> 02:37:11,320 Speaker 1: Though you know what's, real, though is you've always been 3343 02:37:11,440 --> 02:37:14,640 Speaker 1: this way though from the Time i've started, here you 3344 02:37:14,959 --> 02:37:19,080 Speaker 1: still have not learned a damn thing that's okay about. 3345 02:37:19,080 --> 02:37:23,400 Speaker 3: Sports Like i'm not, SURE i Know i'm, exaggerating. 3346 02:37:22,760 --> 02:37:25,200 Speaker 1: But you're not where you should be. 3347 02:37:26,720 --> 02:37:28,080 Speaker 3: As many hours as you put in this. 3348 02:37:28,280 --> 02:37:31,200 Speaker 2: Place and then he and our producer that that was 3349 02:37:31,280 --> 02:37:33,920 Speaker 2: a quick show. Today we had the doubles shows today 3350 02:37:33,959 --> 02:37:35,720 Speaker 2: and more hours felt like, TWO i, mean just like 3351 02:37:35,920 --> 02:37:39,200 Speaker 2: really went quick today of course you slowed it down 3352 02:37:39,320 --> 02:37:43,320 Speaker 2: by suddenly the last. Second look at LIKE i, Said 3353 02:37:43,400 --> 02:37:46,560 Speaker 2: i'm A Jalen hurts. Fan i've always been A Jalen hurts, 3354 02:37:46,600 --> 02:37:48,600 Speaker 2: fan and yes he is definitely my number. Five but 3355 02:37:48,680 --> 02:37:52,119 Speaker 2: then you, offered why can't we Have Jolin hurts ahead 3356 02:37:52,120 --> 02:37:54,760 Speaker 2: Of Josh, allen based again on the fact That Jalen 3357 02:37:54,879 --> 02:37:57,720 Speaker 2: hurts has been to Two Super, Bowls he's been the 3358 02:37:57,800 --> 02:38:02,080 Speaker 2: better quarterback in both super bowl and he's a Super bowl, 3359 02:38:02,280 --> 02:38:04,840 Speaker 2: champion And Josh allen record. 3360 02:38:04,560 --> 02:38:07,160 Speaker 1: Like why can't he why can't he be? Better you 3361 02:38:07,320 --> 02:38:11,880 Speaker 1: Kidd Josh? ALLEN i asked you how many times throughout 3362 02:38:11,920 --> 02:38:14,480 Speaker 1: the show today about the top four? Quarterbacks and, YOU i, 3363 02:38:14,640 --> 02:38:17,520 Speaker 1: KNOW i, know all that a sudden we Said Jalen, 3364 02:38:17,600 --> 02:38:19,240 Speaker 1: hurts and all of a Sudden you're, like well why 3365 02:38:20,240 --> 02:38:20,440 Speaker 1: was you? 3366 02:38:20,520 --> 02:38:22,560 Speaker 3: Guys because it touched the nerve with? Me is that 3367 02:38:22,640 --> 02:38:23,480 Speaker 3: always has been With? 3368 02:38:23,640 --> 02:38:27,320 Speaker 2: Jalen now are we gonna are we gonna alter what 3369 02:38:27,440 --> 02:38:30,920 Speaker 2: we've been? Saying i'm going in top, four it's a top. 3370 02:38:31,040 --> 02:38:35,880 Speaker 1: Five, okay that's, fine but why someone has to tell 3371 02:38:36,000 --> 02:38:40,000 Speaker 1: me why CAN'T i Have Jalen hurts Over Josh? 3372 02:38:40,160 --> 02:38:43,880 Speaker 3: Allen when he's Done he's done what we ask quarterbacks to. 3373 02:38:44,000 --> 02:38:46,360 Speaker 8: Do do you think that if you Put Josh allen 3374 02:38:46,440 --> 02:38:49,080 Speaker 8: on The, eagles he wouldn't have accomplished the Same. 3375 02:38:49,320 --> 02:38:53,320 Speaker 1: See we get now you Think barkley had any impact 3376 02:38:53,400 --> 02:38:54,160 Speaker 1: On jalen. 3377 02:38:53,879 --> 02:38:55,800 Speaker 3: A, Point but at the end of the, day we 3378 02:38:55,879 --> 02:38:56,920 Speaker 3: could say that about a. 3379 02:38:56,959 --> 02:38:57,600 Speaker 1: Lot of different. 3380 02:38:57,680 --> 02:39:01,200 Speaker 2: Players, okay so right, Now jalen heard his career postseason 3381 02:39:01,320 --> 02:39:02,280 Speaker 2: record is six and. 3382 02:39:02,440 --> 02:39:05,120 Speaker 3: Three Lamar jackson is three and. 3383 02:39:05,280 --> 02:39:08,480 Speaker 1: Five. Right last year he was four and h and 3384 02:39:08,600 --> 02:39:12,959 Speaker 1: he Was Super BOWL, mvp right. RIGHT i, Mean i'm 3385 02:39:13,000 --> 02:39:16,680 Speaker 1: just Mentioned Josh. Allen why would you Mention Josh allen 3386 02:39:16,720 --> 02:39:19,520 Speaker 1: and Now Lamar. Jackson why wouldn't you Have Jalen hurts 3387 02:39:19,520 --> 02:39:23,160 Speaker 1: ahead Of Lamar? Jackson Because Josh allen is this guy 3388 02:39:23,360 --> 02:39:28,160 Speaker 1: that we keep, like we keep, annoying we keep giving 3389 02:39:28,240 --> 02:39:32,960 Speaker 1: him as Excuse Lamar. 3390 02:39:33,080 --> 02:39:35,000 Speaker 3: Jackson i'm not making excuses For Lamar. 3391 02:39:35,120 --> 02:39:37,200 Speaker 1: JACKSON i just said the ONE Afc championship game With 3392 02:39:37,280 --> 02:39:39,440 Speaker 1: Tom monkey forgot how to call. Plays that's all Of 3393 02:39:39,600 --> 02:39:41,920 Speaker 1: that's the only Time i've ever gone the guy's gotta. 3394 02:39:41,959 --> 02:39:44,920 Speaker 1: Win that's Why i'm picking him IN. Afc possibly not just, 3395 02:39:45,040 --> 02:39:47,240 Speaker 1: yet But i'm leaning towards them as MY afc pick 3396 02:39:47,280 --> 02:39:48,800 Speaker 1: to get to the Super, bowl because at some point 3397 02:39:49,080 --> 02:39:51,640 Speaker 1: he's gotta get, there OR i will sit here and, say, look, 3398 02:39:51,720 --> 02:39:54,960 Speaker 1: man L jackson is my, guy but you ain't done it. Yet. 3399 02:39:55,080 --> 02:39:57,879 Speaker 1: Man it's just like My Listen marino's my favorite quarterback 3400 02:39:57,920 --> 02:40:00,760 Speaker 1: of all, time And i'll never play him over certain 3401 02:40:00,800 --> 02:40:02,920 Speaker 1: people because you don't have that. Ring, now as the 3402 02:40:02,959 --> 02:40:05,000 Speaker 1: list goes, down we've already all agreed it gets to 3403 02:40:05,040 --> 02:40:06,400 Speaker 1: a certain point where he's got to make the list 3404 02:40:06,440 --> 02:40:08,280 Speaker 1: because he was just that damn. Good but when we're 3405 02:40:08,320 --> 02:40:11,000 Speaker 1: talking about players of today and the way we talk ON, 3406 02:40:11,120 --> 02:40:13,800 Speaker 1: tv the way we talk on, radio we set these 3407 02:40:14,040 --> 02:40:18,480 Speaker 1: parameters and these borders for, quarterbacks and when a guy accomplishes, 3408 02:40:18,600 --> 02:40:21,560 Speaker 1: them we still are taking other quarterbacks that have not 3409 02:40:21,800 --> 02:40:25,119 Speaker 1: done that and put him over. Him And i'm just simply, 3410 02:40:25,280 --> 02:40:29,320 Speaker 1: asking why CAN'T i Have Jalen hurts Over Josh. 3411 02:40:29,480 --> 02:40:32,000 Speaker 2: ALLEN i would, SAY i, ask you, Can but if 3412 02:40:32,000 --> 02:40:34,080 Speaker 2: you're gonna put him over, him you're gonna have to 3413 02:40:34,120 --> 02:40:37,120 Speaker 2: put him Over Lamar. Jackson, fine because it's based on 3414 02:40:37,600 --> 02:40:40,400 Speaker 2: Your you're what you're saying About Jalen hurs is he's done. 3415 02:40:40,440 --> 02:40:42,640 Speaker 2: It he's won A Super, Bowl he's been in Two Super. Bowls, 3416 02:40:42,680 --> 02:40:44,920 Speaker 2: fine you can rate him Over Josh, allen but you 3417 02:40:45,120 --> 02:40:47,640 Speaker 2: have to do. Both by the Way Keillo burrow brought 3418 02:40:47,720 --> 02:40:48,720 Speaker 2: postseason is five and. 3419 02:40:48,800 --> 02:40:52,200 Speaker 10: TWO i, mean CAN i have a back door say 3420 02:40:52,240 --> 02:40:58,439 Speaker 10: That Lamar jackson's got two. MVPs, okay you also Discussed. 3421 02:40:58,720 --> 02:41:01,720 Speaker 10: Warner you Also smith's Kurse, warner who was a two 3422 02:41:01,800 --> 02:41:04,280 Speaker 10: time mv. PEOPLE i DON'T i hear much more coming 3423 02:41:04,360 --> 02:41:05,200 Speaker 10: up On Fox Sports. 3424 02:41:05,280 --> 02:41:05,520 Speaker 1: Radio