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Speaker 1: Hey, welcome and I'm goli been. This is all ball. Um.

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Speaker 1: Angela Weathers will join me upcoming in about five minutes.

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Speaker 1: Part two of our sit down with her. Just an

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Speaker 1: amazing story of an amazing woman who grew up, had

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Speaker 1: a childwood shoes in high school, went to Old Miss

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Speaker 1: but didn't seem to fit in, transferred back home, had

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Speaker 1: a great career, and then began the process of becoming

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Speaker 1: a female professional basketball player. Background in the infancy of

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Speaker 1: as part of All Ball. Before we get to that, though,

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Speaker 1: let's talk some Luca, shall we. I mean, that's Larry

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Speaker 1: Bird and the like. We'll do this thing about well,

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Speaker 1: you know, he's he's more of a point guard and

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Speaker 1: Larry like if Larry Bird was coming out now, Larboard

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Speaker 1: dudes that don't seem like they should go by people,

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Speaker 1: but find a way to always get open and make

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Speaker 1: really be creative in in their their footwork and their playmaking.

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Speaker 1: You know, not the same guy. But that's as close

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Speaker 1: as you'll ever get to Larry Bird. And the people

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Speaker 1: are like, what about Dirk Davitski, Well, Dirk wasn't a

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Speaker 1: great passer, he wasn't a great rebounder, UM, incredible shooter, scorer, incredible,

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Speaker 1: but that that wasn't the other parts of of of

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Speaker 1: what Bird was or what Luca is, they're not really

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Speaker 1: the passing and creative for other people. That's just not there.

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Speaker 1: That wasn't there ever, And he wasn't a great rebounder,

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Speaker 1: close as you're gonna find a Larry Bird. We've been

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Speaker 1: searching all these years for Jordan's. Kobe's the closest we've

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Speaker 1: we've come to Jordan, but he didn't have the same

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Speaker 1: level of dominance UM and I don't think he had

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Speaker 1: the same first step. Luca is not the exact same

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Speaker 1: I think that was fully on displayed. As for Chris Paul,

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Speaker 1: the people that are hating on Chris Paul, look, I

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Speaker 1: openly wonder can you win an NBA championship with a

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Speaker 1: they had to players who talent wise, in terms of

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Speaker 1: you want about DeAndre and he's not the best big

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Speaker 1: center in the league, but he's more of a traditional

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Speaker 1: and then you know, Chris Paul is a guy who

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Speaker 1: really struggled defensively. Some of it is his age, but

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Speaker 1: some of it is It's just hard when you're a

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Speaker 1: don't believe you can build around a traditional back to

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Speaker 1: And Bead hasn't been able to. Gobert hasn't been able to,

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Speaker 1: hasn't been able to. I guess he was able to

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Speaker 1: last year and get to the finals, but but but

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Speaker 1: not any other your since so just it's not that

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Speaker 1: those guys your best players, but they're one of your

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Speaker 1: Let's catch up with with my good friend Angelo Weathers.

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Speaker 1: So you come back home. You played for James Smith,

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Speaker 1: and you have an unbelievable career, right, like unbelievable career,

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Speaker 1: all the living up to the potential half you sitting

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Speaker 1: out a brutal year. It was tough. But yeah, um

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Speaker 1: know at least a piece of what you've been through. Sure,

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Speaker 1: I mean it's it's it was humbling altogether. And then

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Speaker 1: even previous expectations were of myself. And then also the

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Speaker 1: players passed it to Nancy Lieberman and said, hey, you

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Speaker 1: And now you have that that that vision, um, is

430
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Speaker 1: that part of the mentorship program? Is there some other

431
00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:39,399
Speaker 1: way like how does that? I mean, how does it

432
00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:42,360
Speaker 1: exactly happening in the brain where you think of these

433
00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:45,199
Speaker 1: bigger things when so many other people are caught on

434
00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:48,439
Speaker 1: the smaller thing. Yeah, so that's um, that that is

435
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:51,680
Speaker 1: the whole process. There is scaling that and providing that

436
00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:55,440
Speaker 1: to those pro athletes. UM, but meeting them where they're

437
00:24:55,480 --> 00:25:00,600
Speaker 1: at is helping them to basically assess their business, See

438
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:03,600
Speaker 1: where they're at, what their intentions are, what their growth

439
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:06,720
Speaker 1: model looks like. Are they open to UM? And and

440
00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:10,399
Speaker 1: that is going to happen by inviting them to my events. Okay,

441
00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:12,719
Speaker 1: so I don't know everything, and I just like I

442
00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:15,439
Speaker 1: used to tell my players, UM, you know, I'm not

443
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:17,119
Speaker 1: the only way, but in my short way. And I

444
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:20,520
Speaker 1: do I do know something I have experienced. And um,

445
00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:22,160
Speaker 1: you know, if you're willing to learn and you want

446
00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:25,879
Speaker 1: to create a legacy for your family, because the dollars

447
00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:27,840
Speaker 1: that you made playing, I don't care who you are

448
00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:29,840
Speaker 1: unless you played, you know, in the INBA, and the

449
00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:32,480
Speaker 1: chances are you still lose it. Um, this is how

450
00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:38,000
Speaker 1: you with great stewardship, this is how you create a legacy. Uh.

451
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:40,720
Speaker 1: You mentioned Becky and obviously she left the men's game

452
00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:44,159
Speaker 1: and returned to the women's game to to the aces. Uh.

453
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:48,440
Speaker 1: You've obviously both coached the professional level their assistant coaches. Yeah,

454
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Speaker 1: what's what's the strongest like that? What's what's the like

455
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:56,359
Speaker 1: that of success of female head coach? Is it? Is

456
00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 1: it greater in college or in the pros? I mean,

457
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Speaker 1: I mean, just because of what the landslide of what

458
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,359
Speaker 1: things look like in sports right now for women, I

459
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:09,600
Speaker 1: would say women, Um, there there's a chance that it

460
00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:13,240
Speaker 1: will happen first at the professional level before it does

461
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:16,880
Speaker 1: at the collegiate level. Um. At the collegiate level, there's

462
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:20,680
Speaker 1: such um uh, there's such a high turnover and then

463
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:23,600
Speaker 1: there is and that's from both sides. That's women even

464
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:25,960
Speaker 1: wanting to be interested in coaching men at the collegiate

465
00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:29,320
Speaker 1: level versus the professional level. And then I think that

466
00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:31,960
Speaker 1: also has something to do with the level of entitlement,

467
00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:35,080
Speaker 1: UM with with youth. Not that entitlement does not in

468
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:37,600
Speaker 1: egotism does not exist at the pro level. I just

469
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:40,640
Speaker 1: think that there there are more chances of likelihood at

470
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:43,960
Speaker 1: the pro level than um at the collegiate level. UM.

471
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Speaker 1: But I I do think that we still have quite

472
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:50,439
Speaker 1: a stretch to go UM in accepting it. UM. I

473
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 1: know that I went through a lot. I went through

474
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Speaker 1: a lot and so so so here's here's a question, sorry,

475
00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:03,720
Speaker 1: which is you know every free coach regards man, woman, young, old,

476
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:06,720
Speaker 1: does better. You need buy in from buying from the players.

477
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,080
Speaker 1: And if you walk in you don't have a resume,

478
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 1: but it's you gotta um, but you can't. I always

479
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 1: feel like you can't try and get him to buy in.

480
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:22,200
Speaker 1: It has to kind of happen organically, that's right. Um,

481
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:24,879
Speaker 1: How did you get players to buy into your coaching?

482
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:26,639
Speaker 1: You said you had three that weren't all in. I

483
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:30,159
Speaker 1: guess you didn't ship all three of them off that

484
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:32,719
Speaker 1: I actually didn't cut players so mid season, and and

485
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:36,680
Speaker 1: part of that comes with being relatable. UM I am.

486
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:40,399
Speaker 1: I I tend to feel like I'm a relatable person UM.

487
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 1: And that means that when you are relatable, you're personal.

488
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 1: And so you tapped you know, I tapped into UM,

489
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:51,159
Speaker 1: you know, my experiences, all my experiences, whether that was

490
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:54,320
Speaker 1: conversation that I could, you know, I could glean from

491
00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 1: something I observed. I'm very observant, you know, That's that's

492
00:27:57,560 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 1: what I did. You know, Hey, what do you like?

493
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:01,199
Speaker 1: You know? It took me also getting out of my

494
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:04,720
Speaker 1: comfort zone, probably having you know, conversations that I might

495
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:07,440
Speaker 1: you know, just have a brief conversation and exit UM.

496
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:10,359
Speaker 1: And then like I said, lots of team bonding and

497
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:14,320
Speaker 1: things that were specific to UM, causing players to communicate

498
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:18,480
Speaker 1: UM with me as well as with their their teammates.

499
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 1: That's I mean, you have to create an environment of trust.

500
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 1: You know, players at every level you know nothing, nothing

501
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:28,920
Speaker 1: is certain. The game is so unpredictable, you know, from

502
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:31,840
Speaker 1: like you know, from college scholarships to contracts. You know

503
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,159
Speaker 1: one day you're there the next or not, you know,

504
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:37,000
Speaker 1: And so I think creating a level of trust and

505
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 1: letting them know that I care about them as people.

506
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:42,240
Speaker 1: Was where Um, I want a lot of my players over.

507
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 1: If someone wants to be able to be a part

508
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 1: of your All Star we can like the one in

509
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 1: July in Michigan or the one in Arizona. How can

510
00:28:57,280 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 1: how can they do so well? They can simply mail

511
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,480
Speaker 1: to talk to you a C I N F O

512
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 1: info at mail dot com. And it's not Gmail, it's

513
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 1: to our info and mail dot com. Um. And then

514
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 1: that's the easiest way to get into the system. And

515
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 1: then um they get to talk to uh, they get

516
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 1: to talk to myself for right or one of our

517
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 1: team members that is executive director that's hiring. What about

518
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 1: the train you still train? You still train people? Um?

519
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 1: I do seldomly. UM. I am right now giving back

520
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 1: working with my daughter's use basketball organization in the Texas

521
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 1: Flight that got some pretty special players about thirty thirty

522
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 1: five young ladies and um just you know, just here

523
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 1: and there, Um we're asked to I get guys that

524
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 1: asked me to write right now. My focus is is

525
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:46,960
Speaker 1: a little preparing for these events. UM. As far as

526
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 1: watching your daughter, what's what is? How are you as

527
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:53,240
Speaker 1: a former coach and former player as a parent and

528
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 1: trying to help her. Oh that's hard. It's hard. Um,

529
00:29:56,320 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 1: it's so funny because, um, she's actually my I already

530
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 1: in the eighth grade and but she just started playing. Um,

531
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:05,480
Speaker 1: you know, I have to remind myself, I have to

532
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 1: take any breath, scoop back and just let her be

533
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 1: so I have somebody else working with her and then um,

534
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:14,800
Speaker 1: you know, just putting her, you know, out there with

535
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 1: another team and letting her hear other coaches voices. So

536
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 1: for me, it's nerve wracking sometimes and then sometimes it's him.

537
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 1: You know, it's humbling, and then it's just a wonderful

538
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 1: experience just to see her out there and be like, man,

539
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 1: that's my that's my kid, that's my kid. Be cool.

540
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 1: So um at last, thing like your life's kind of

541
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:42,680
Speaker 1: like a book or a movie. Have you ever considered it?

542
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:48,240
Speaker 1: That's that's hilarious. So um yeah. And I've talked to

543
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 1: a couple of producers that are friends of mine and

544
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 1: they're like, we're gonna do that. And you know, my

545
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 1: sister is actually an actress. Um that cheered for me

546
00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 1: all the way through and she's like, when we're doing this,

547
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 1: when are we doing this, so you want her to play?

548
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 1: You know? She actually was like, no, I got the

549
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 1: right person, you know. Um, but she would definitely be

550
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 1: her cheerleader self like along the journey. Um but but

551
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 1: definitely I think, um, something that the future holds for sure. Yeah,

552
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 1: it's got to be amazing considering where you start out

553
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 1: in Louisiana and all the journey and to be here

554
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 1: and in this position, all the things you've accomplished. There

555
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 1: not so much time to accomplish so much more. Angel,

556
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:30,800
Speaker 1: what you're doing is amazingly and I wait to see

557
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 1: what this week first weekend looks like, and I'm sure

558
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 1: we'll only grow truly appreciate all your time. Really and

559
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 1: uh no, I'm humbled and I really appreciate you as well, um,

560
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 1: you know, just taking the time to um also share

561
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 1: not for the sake of myself, but for the people

562
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 1: that you know that I want to serve. I want

563
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:52,240
Speaker 1: to serve a multitude of people, and so I graciously

564
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 1: appreciate you having. I mean, what I appreciate about it

565
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 1: is like is using this gift that you have been

566
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 1: a great basketball player. It's obviously made your life and

567
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 1: your professional life and trying to help others do the same,

568
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 1: trying to kind of show them that that path. It's

569
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,239
Speaker 1: so often it's so hyper focused on I want to

570
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 1: be super rich and and and and look that may

571
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 1: happen for one or two of them, but there's a

572
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 1: whole other life to be made out of it, and

573
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 1: then to help pay it forward to others. And that's

574
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 1: what you've got, That's what you know, and I've discovered

575
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 1: and continue to flourish upon. So it's it's pretty amazing. Anyway,

576
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 1: Thanks for your time. Have a wonderful weekend. I appreciate

577
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 1: it year as well. Thanks Doug. Thanks Angelo. That was

578
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 1: amazing of you to join us back with the NBA discussion.

579
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:42,959
Speaker 1: Now that the draft lottery took place before we dropped

580
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,960
Speaker 1: this pod, and slowly but surely people are coming around

581
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 1: to Jabari Smith being then on what overall pick. And

582
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 1: it's not that he's not that that Polo Bunk Carol

583
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 1: is not better right now, but you're trying to guess

584
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 1: in that first and second contract what it will be like.

585
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 1: And I would tend to agree, but sound underestimate what

586
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 1: Bunk Caro is. He's tough, he's talented with the ball,

587
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 1: he can post. He can score out of the you know,

588
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 1: out of the pick and pop, and of course you

589
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 1: can bring the ball up the corner. It's like a

590
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 1: point guard. Is there some work to do? Sure? But

591
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 1: does that Does that mean he can't accomplish crate things

592
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 1: this year? No, it does not mean that at all.

593
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 1: He can accomplish anything he wants to my thanks to

594
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Speaker 1: Angela Weathers, but thanks to you for downloading, listening. I'm

595
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 1: Doug Gottlieb. This is all ball