1 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 1: Hello everyone, and welcome back to the Hammer Territory podcast, 2 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 1: part of the Foul Territory Network. I'm your host, Brad Roland, 3 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 1: and I'm joined by someone on this podcast. It is 4 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:32,519 Speaker 1: very familiar to Braves fans and people that I guess 5 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:35,479 Speaker 1: podcast that I host in some respect, he is a 6 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 1: subject matter expert on this topic. He is Carlos Colazl 7 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 1: on Baseball America. Hello, sir, how are you. 8 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 2: What's up? Brad? How's it going? Man? Happy to be here. 9 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 2: Thanks for having me. 10 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 1: I always appreciate you doing this. I try not to 11 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:48,839 Speaker 1: bug you more than once a year in podcast fashion, 12 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 1: and I try not to do it like the day 13 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 1: before the draft because that way you probably have one 14 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 1: hundred things to do that day. So here we are. 15 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 1: People probably know you, but this is what you do. 16 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 1: You're a legitimate and MLB draft expert. Uh, you'll be, 17 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 1: I believe on the first night of the draft. On 18 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 1: the TV side, you're a TV star for one day. 19 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 2: One. I don't know about a star, but I'm at 20 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 2: least on TV for one day a year, and I 21 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 2: do cover the draft at BA. So excited for the 22 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:15,479 Speaker 2: time of year. Yeah, it is funny the amount of 23 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:18,479 Speaker 2: people who I never hear from, who will like hit 24 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 2: me up the day of the draft and ask if 25 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 2: I can do a like a radio hit. 26 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 1: I'm like, uh no, I'm very busy today. Yeah. Yeah, 27 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:30,480 Speaker 1: I hesitated to you and ask you when I did, 28 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 1: because I was like, you know, it's it's probably a 29 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 1: little bit late, but I'll try my best. I know 30 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 1: you did Friends of Ours the Peach Day Prospects podcast. 31 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 1: I listened to you on that show with Garage Yea 32 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 1: and those guys. That was fun. 33 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:42,960 Speaker 2: So yeah, and this is my first appearance on the 34 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 2: pod since you guys have moved over to the Fell 35 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:46,040 Speaker 2: Territory network. 36 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 1: So that's true. I was gonna say, I have to 37 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 1: do the spiel every time you come on at Carlson. 38 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 1: I actually founded the Battery Power podcast before. It was 39 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 1: Talking Job before that, and now we're it's the same crew, 40 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 1: but we're on a new feed, so it's kind of 41 00:01:57,320 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 1: the same show. But yeah, this is your debut on 42 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 1: Hammer Territory anyway, although I know you've been on Foul 43 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 1: Territory a few times. That's all you were on there 44 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 1: for the Combine a couple of weeks ago. I've live 45 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 1: on video and all those things, and I mean my 46 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:10,800 Speaker 1: actual actually have been my debut recently on faul Territory 47 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 1: and probably messed it up. 48 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 3: I don't know. 49 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 2: Well, that's awesome. Yeah, they do a show with that's 50 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:16,800 Speaker 2: called Hot Sheet that happens weekly. That's really fun. So 51 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 2: I love those guys and glad to see you a 52 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 2: part of the network. So that's cool. 53 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 1: Absolutely, we're having fun. So anyway, we'll get to these 54 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 1: specifics a little bit here. I always admit this, but 55 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 1: I'll say it on the show. I know very little 56 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:29,919 Speaker 1: about the MLB draft, which is why I'm getting someone 57 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 1: who does know something about this. So this is not 58 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 1: an area where I'm going to inject much of my 59 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:36,079 Speaker 1: own opinion. I don't really have opinions at this point 60 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 1: in time. But just to way the groundwork, the draft 61 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:40,519 Speaker 1: is this Sunday is people are about to listen to 62 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 1: this podcast. The first two rounds is well, the first 63 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 1: the first day of the draft to Sunday. The first 64 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 1: day is the first two full rounds plus the first 65 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 1: two coup rounds. The Braves have two picks in that 66 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:53,519 Speaker 1: first day. I think it's twenty four and sixty two. Yeah, 67 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 1: that's right, and their bonus pool is like seven point 68 00:02:56,520 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 1: seven ish million dollars. M WIB draft is weird, always 69 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 1: different than other drafts. When you think about it, you're 70 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 1: you're laughing as I'm saying that it just is. But 71 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 1: let's just do the top guys first. They are not 72 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 1: Braves targets. They're obviously famous players. There's a little bit 73 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 1: of product, is it Charlie is it? It's Charlie Connon Right, 74 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 1: It's like he's like maybe, like not necessarily could set 75 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 1: this number one, but he's kind of up there on 76 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 1: all the lists. What do you think about the top 77 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 1: of the draft, the more famous players that the Braves 78 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 1: can't have access to in this class. 79 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the top of the draft is actually 80 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 2: quite good. I've had a few scouts tell me that 81 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:32,399 Speaker 2: if this draft was like a ten player draft would 82 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 2: be a really good draft. But because it's not, most 83 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 2: people don't think it's that good. I think the class 84 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 2: as a whole is probably below average. It might be 85 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 2: the weakest draft that I've covered since I joined BA, 86 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 2: which is going back to like twenty seventeen draft. But 87 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 2: the top ten players is actually quite solid. Charlie Conden, 88 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 2: who you mentioned, is number one on our board. I 89 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 2: think throughout the industry he is a consensus top two 90 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 2: player in the class. If you don't have Charlie Condon 91 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 2: number one, whilst other people have Travis Bizana Organ say 92 00:03:56,800 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 2: second baseman number one. We've got those guys one too 93 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 2: with But yeah, he's had a monstrous offensive season. He 94 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 2: added a lot of defensive versatility to his profile, which 95 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 2: really helps improve it. But if you're taking fund in one, 96 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 2: you're taking him because of the bat is a potential 97 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:16,599 Speaker 2: plus hit tool of seventy grade power upside. He's going 98 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 2: to set a number of records just given the offensive 99 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 2: environment in college baseball this year. In the phenomenal season 100 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:24,039 Speaker 2: he had. I think he's got a chance to be 101 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 2: the first Power five conference hitter in the Bonus Pool 102 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 2: era to go in the first round. With the career 103 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 2: average over four hundred, he'll have like the best slugging 104 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:32,719 Speaker 2: percentage of any of these players, will have the best 105 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 2: home run rate for any players in this kind of 106 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:40,039 Speaker 2: era of baseball. So he has pretty exceptional numbers, but 107 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 2: I think there are real tools behind it, and the 108 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:44,039 Speaker 2: fact that he's kind of right out there and played 109 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:46,599 Speaker 2: center field and played there and looked decent in college 110 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 2: makes his profile quite appealing. 111 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 1: I would say, yeah, I was going to ask you 112 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 1: about the class general, because like you know, there's always this. 113 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 1: This's actually happened to me recently with the end with 114 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 1: the NBA Draft, whereas this always is like, okay, what 115 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 1: makes a good draft between the top talent and the 116 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 1: depth of the class and what you got into. It 117 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 1: sounds like there's not a lot of depth in this class, 118 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 1: but the top talent is there. It was the exact 119 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 1: opposite in the NBA draft that not anybody cares, but 120 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:09,360 Speaker 1: there was just no top guys in the NBA draft. 121 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:12,039 Speaker 1: So it's like almost philosophical, like if you have it, 122 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:13,360 Speaker 1: if you have a top five pix, it's like you're 123 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:15,599 Speaker 1: probably in pretty good shape. The Braves don't, of course, 124 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 1: But does that sound like that's sound reasonable? It's just 125 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 1: top heavy? Is that all it is? 126 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:23,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's It's kind of interesting because this year's top 127 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:25,839 Speaker 2: tier is not as good as last year's top five. 128 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 2: Like the twenty twenty three class, I think all of 129 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 2: those five players would have a chance to rank number 130 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:33,039 Speaker 2: one in this class still, but the twenty twenty three 131 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 2: draft is like the best draft i've ever covered, and 132 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 2: I think part of it is just the biggest reason 133 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 2: this draft is considered weak for most Scounce is the 134 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:43,719 Speaker 2: high school class is really weak, both on the hitting 135 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:46,279 Speaker 2: and pitching side, and I think specifically for the high 136 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:49,839 Speaker 2: school class, it's a lack of top end hitters and pitchers. 137 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 2: Like you mentioned, I think for most classes, teams would 138 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 2: really prefer it to be top heavy and to have 139 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 2: some real studs at the top of the class that 140 00:05:57,440 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 2: you can feel confident in, because I mean, the nine 141 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 2: eighteen draft is one that I always point to. At 142 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 2: the time, Scout's really hammered the depth of that class, 143 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:07,839 Speaker 2: but there was a really strong top six. Ali Rusf 144 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:10,039 Speaker 2: and Bobby with Junior have been great, and looking back now, 145 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 2: that twenty nineteen class is much better in hindsight than 146 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:16,279 Speaker 2: Scouts thought it was the day of. So maybe this 147 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:18,039 Speaker 2: twenty four class is going to be the same where 148 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 2: it kind of gets hammered at the time we're all 149 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 2: covering it and watching it, but there are gonna be 150 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 2: players that pan out. I do think there's some reasonable 151 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:27,479 Speaker 2: depth on the high school pitching side. There are not 152 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:29,920 Speaker 2: too many organizations that have really tried to dive into 153 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 2: that demographic. The Braves are one of those organizations that 154 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:35,919 Speaker 2: has so maybe that'll benefit them. But I think the 155 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 2: biggest thing for this class that makes it challenging is 156 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 2: there's a pretty significant drop off in talent after this 157 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 2: top ten or eleven tier of players, And every team 158 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:46,920 Speaker 2: that I've talked to picking in kind of the middle 159 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:49,719 Speaker 2: of the first round and back third has just massive 160 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 2: nets that they've casted because they have no idea who's available, 161 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 2: and it's very difficult to separate this next tier of 162 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 2: like forty players or so. So I think it's going 163 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:59,479 Speaker 2: to be pretty chaotic on draft day, which will be 164 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:02,360 Speaker 2: fun for people watching and maybe for people who are 165 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 2: following teams picking lower because who knows who's going to 166 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:06,719 Speaker 2: be available to you this year? 167 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 1: Yeah again, acknowledge you my amateur status here. It seems 168 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 1: like maybe you got some guys that might fall, maybe 169 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 1: maybe still considerations of bonus pool stuff and you're drafting 170 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 1: guys for how much they're going to take, and that 171 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 1: always happens, but is that even more so this time around? 172 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 1: Once you get past that top ten, like the guy's 173 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 1: fall that maybe my money wise, like we're trying to 174 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 1: scheme this whole thing. 175 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 2: I think so, and I think that could even happen, 176 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 2: like inside the top ten. One of the big things 177 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 2: that teams are grappling with this year is the fact 178 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 2: that the bonus pools have risen. I think it's eight 179 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 2: point seven percent year over year, so the pools are 180 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 2: massive this year. There are three slot value like the 181 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 2: top three picks have slot values of nine million or higher. 182 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 2: We only handed out our first nine million dollar bonus 183 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 2: last year in the draft with Paul Schemes and Dylan Cruz, 184 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 2: and I can't imagine the industry is going to be 185 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 2: paying any one slot value for one to one, which 186 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 2: is ten point five million, which would shatter the amateur 187 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 2: bonus pool record. So I know there is a thought 188 00:07:57,080 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 2: in the industry that, like this year's talent is just 189 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 2: not worth the bonus bulls. So if that underslotting starts 190 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 2: inside the top ten picks, a lot of players are 191 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 2: going to slide down boards. A majority of the players 192 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 2: who are signing the first round over the last few 193 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 2: years are on underslot deals at this point because so 194 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 2: many teams just like using that portfolio approach in the draft. 195 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 2: So that could lead to some guys who, in my 196 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 2: mind I'm thinking are going to be gone by the 197 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 2: twelfth to thirteenth pick, sliding a little bit further. It 198 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 2: happens every year, but it's just hard to predict who 199 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 2: those players are going to be and who's going to 200 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 2: jump up into that top ten range on a deal 201 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 2: that we're not expecting. So someone will do it. But yeah, 202 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:35,199 Speaker 2: this year, I'll be very interested to see just how 203 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 2: many actual slot value deals or overslot deals we have 204 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 2: in the first round. 205 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 1: I want to get your thoughts on the Braves. Of course, 206 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 1: last year they went kind of up. Actually, they picked 207 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 1: the i think right handed pitchers from college with the 208 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:48,440 Speaker 1: first three picks, and they i think some of their 209 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 1: first ten. I don't if that means the thing. There's 210 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:52,960 Speaker 1: been this turnover the last from years pack this is 211 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 1: not new this year, but they have a different leadership structure. Honestly, 212 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 1: this is broad and it's hard to pinpoint who they're 213 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 1: going to take at twenty four, especially two. It's like, 214 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 1: I don't I know you trying to do mock drafts 215 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 1: and let's just putting that behind the that's not that's 216 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 1: not consideration for anybody else. But I've had to do 217 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 1: mock drafts they're not a lot of fun, especially whether 218 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 1: it's like uncertainty. But what do you as far as 219 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 1: what you know about the Braves, Like what do you 220 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 1: were you kind of looking, what do they do? What 221 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:18,680 Speaker 1: do they seem to value? Because you know the year before, 222 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:21,680 Speaker 1: to contrast, they went more prep heavy two years ago, 223 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 1: Like so we're kind of the radar with the bread Rendo. 224 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:26,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like they're one of these teams that 225 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 2: definitely has become a little bit more model heavy. Analytics 226 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:31,559 Speaker 2: have certainly become more of a factor over the years. 227 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:34,679 Speaker 2: But the fact that they're still willing to take profiles 228 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:36,439 Speaker 2: that they have a track record of developing at a 229 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 2: pretty good level, I think above the industry norm. The 230 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:41,320 Speaker 2: fact that they're still willing to take some of these 231 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 2: high school pitching profiles just makes them like, you can't. 232 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:46,479 Speaker 2: I don't lump them entirely in with like the Cleveland's 233 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 2: or the Toronto's and Seattle's who seem to be or 234 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:51,679 Speaker 2: maybe Milwaukee who seem to be like super model heavy 235 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 2: and super analytically friendly. So they're kind of this blended 236 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:58,440 Speaker 2: scouting department from my point of view. They're also picking 237 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 2: in a range where really I think every demographic of 238 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 2: the draft is going to be on the table and available. 239 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 2: I think mostly college hitters will be the best players 240 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:08,559 Speaker 2: available for the Braves if they want to go high 241 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:10,199 Speaker 2: school pitching. I think there are a number of high 242 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:13,200 Speaker 2: school pitchers who make sense in the twenties. So far 243 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 2: during this like mock draft process, and over the last 244 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 2: few weeks, I've heard them mostly tied to college players, 245 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 2: guys like Ryan Walshman, who I think we've had them 246 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 2: mocked the last three months, and I try to really 247 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 2: hammer this over and over again that like the fact 248 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 2: that he has been there for three straight does not 249 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 2: mean that I'm like ultra confident. It's just a name 250 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:35,200 Speaker 2: that I have heard them link to, and I've heard 251 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 2: they like it, and he makes sense on talent, and so 252 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 2: without like a better option to fit with them, I 253 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 2: think he's just like a name in this range that 254 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 2: I know or I've heard that they do like, so 255 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 2: he kind of just is the pick. Other guys like 256 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 2: Jorangelo Sinca, who's a switch pitcher from Mississippi State, Carson 257 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 2: Bench who is an outfielder and right handed pitcher, which 258 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 2: maybe I should just be finding two way players to 259 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:57,560 Speaker 2: tie to the Braves in the twenties because they've really 260 00:10:57,559 --> 00:10:59,440 Speaker 2: taken that profile a lot. But both those guys, if 261 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 2: they're available, I think they can make a lot of sense. 262 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 2: But I feel like there's a reasonable odds that Booth 263 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 2: those two are gone, even Waldschmidt might be gone before 264 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:11,840 Speaker 2: they pick it twenty four to twenty five. So it's 265 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 2: really tough, like you said, and it's tough this year 266 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 2: at fifteen to find like a realistic matches for teams 267 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:22,320 Speaker 2: just given the uncertainty. But for the Braves, like, yeah, 268 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 2: I just mostly hear college names college players. I would 269 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 2: like to see them draft the hitter personally, just as 270 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 2: someone who still covers the system, just because there's not 271 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 2: a lot of like locked in hitters you feel good 272 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:38,320 Speaker 2: about in this system. At the same time, they still 273 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:41,440 Speaker 2: keep pushing up pitchers and they've had some pitching injuries. 274 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 2: And if you get a talent deal like a Hurston Waldrip, 275 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 2: the fact that he signed an undersloid deal last year 276 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:49,680 Speaker 2: at that pick I thought was crazy good value. So 277 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 2: it's really hard to eliminate anything entirely. 278 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:54,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, and this is very obvious to most people, I think, 279 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 1: But you don't draft for like need in the baseball draft, 280 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 1: Like it's like, especially, nor do you like cross positions 281 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:02,560 Speaker 1: off because you have a guy in the majors either, 282 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 1: It's like it's very different from NFL or NBA in 283 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:07,560 Speaker 1: that way you're kind of just taking best available. 284 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 2: But yeah, I just I'm. 285 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:12,719 Speaker 1: Curious because you mentioned, you know, the system. I'm not 286 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:14,560 Speaker 1: gonna make you talk about a system a ton if 287 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:16,559 Speaker 1: you don't want to. But it's like it's not that 288 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 1: it's not where it was a few years ago, and 289 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 1: kind everybody knows that. But and at least the questions 290 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 1: that we get all the time, like what are they 291 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:22,839 Speaker 1: gonna do with the draft, what are they gonna what 292 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 1: are they trying to do with with with with the 293 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:25,960 Speaker 1: farm system in general, And it's like, well, they're just 294 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 1: trying to add talent for the most part. And like 295 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 1: you said, you mentioned they're they're not shy about pushing 296 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:32,560 Speaker 1: guys fast like they've been. They did it again this year, 297 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 1: They're gonna do it again in the future, like they're 298 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:36,440 Speaker 1: not afraid to do. That doesn't mean that this guy, 299 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:38,200 Speaker 1: whoever they take, is gonna appear in the major suit. 300 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 1: But Waldrop, Waldrop's already like been up there, like it's 301 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 1: it's as great, it's great. It's crazy fast, even even 302 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 1: as a college player, to get there as fast as 303 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:48,200 Speaker 1: he as. That is that a consideration is like, is 304 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:49,719 Speaker 1: that why they like college guys? Do they want to 305 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 1: move fast? Like do you have any idea why they would? 306 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:52,840 Speaker 1: Kind of like what they value? Like what are they 307 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:53,320 Speaker 1: not value? 308 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:53,559 Speaker 2: I don't know. 309 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 1: It's interesting to me that's they're kind of going with 310 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 1: such fluid. It'd probably be easier for people like you 311 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:01,599 Speaker 1: if you kind of knew, if they're more obvious. But 312 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 1: it's also kind of on brand for the Braves. They 313 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:04,960 Speaker 1: don't like to showcase what they're going to do in 314 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 1: any possible way. They're very private, so it doesn't I'm 315 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:08,719 Speaker 1: much shocked what you say. 316 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, yeah, they I think that is like more 317 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:14,199 Speaker 2: of a maybe a player development philosophy with the Braves. 318 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:16,959 Speaker 2: There are some teams who really are trying to kind 319 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 2: of baby their arms specifically and put these innings limits 320 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 2: and pitch count limits and really try and help their 321 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 2: pictures avoid injury by not over taxing them. It does 322 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:30,439 Speaker 2: seem like the Braves philosophy is like, no, we want 323 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:32,319 Speaker 2: our guys to throw, they need to get used to 324 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 2: the volume they need to pitch a lot, and I 325 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 2: think there's a lot of merit to that philosophy. Actually 326 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 2: I don't. I don't really love the idea of like 327 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:41,960 Speaker 2: babing arms. Who've seen so many teams who have tried 328 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 2: to do this with prominent prospects and it just doesn't work. 329 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:48,080 Speaker 2: So I'm much more of the like I like the 330 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:50,560 Speaker 2: idea of training volume in pitchers and getting the arm 331 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 2: used to that volume. I think it's solid. Like you said, 332 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:56,200 Speaker 2: they're one of the more aggressive teams in pushing prospects 333 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:58,320 Speaker 2: that are not afraid to challenge them at upper levels 334 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:00,680 Speaker 2: of the miners and push them quickly. There are other 335 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 2: teams like the Rays who seem to be a lot 336 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 2: more conservative with how fast they put their prospects in 337 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 2: general for the race, still have a really good attack 338 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 2: record and player development in general. So I think that 339 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 2: player development philosophy is interesting in terms of like what 340 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:16,960 Speaker 2: the Braves target in terms of pitch traits. I'm not 341 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:18,679 Speaker 2: sure that I have a great read on if they 342 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 2: have anything really specific, Like I know teams like Cleveland 343 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 2: really value vertical break fastballs, Teams like the Mariners really 344 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 2: value like vertical approach angle with pitchers. They want really 345 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 2: flat approach angle for the guys they're taking. They've actually 346 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 2: been more willing to take on stinkers in the past. 347 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 2: I don't know if there's like a specific pitch trait 348 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 2: the Braves, like I see them taking a lot of 349 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 2: I think they do a reasonable job of just taking 350 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 2: whoever the best player available is and not kind of 351 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 2: getting two in the weeds on like specific traits, which 352 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 2: I think is probably a good thing. 353 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 1: So I again not knowing anything that that generally applies 354 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 1: what it would be what I want people to do, 355 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 1: like I want them to take the best player available, 356 00:14:57,240 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 1: kind of whatever the mix happens to be, especially that 357 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 1: you know you're not picking one, you're picking twenty four 358 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 1: to sixty two, Like there's you could be kind of 359 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 1: a wide ranging with what you want. 360 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 2: I know. 361 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 1: I know Waldrip was like a dream for a lot 362 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 1: of people that I talked to last year and they 363 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 1: ended up getting him, and like you mentioned signing him 364 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 1: under slot that that was like a great scenario that 365 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 1: everybody was on board with. It's not always that, like 366 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 1: there's not always consensus like excitement around every pick that 367 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 1: you make. But maybe a little bit of spoiled there, 368 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 1: given that everyone was really excited about him. 369 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's also just a good sign for 370 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 2: the Braves too, because there are some organizations where pitchers 371 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 2: specifically are not going to want to take deals. I 372 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 2: think it's a credit to what Atlanta has done with 373 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 2: their pitching development and just the fact that they're a 374 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 2: competitive team at the major league level that players are 375 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 2: willing to take a deal to go to them, because 376 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 2: I don't imagine that that would have been the same 377 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 2: deal that any team picking him in that spot would 378 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 2: have gotten. I know for other teams like Colorado and 379 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 2: Oakland specifically, like a lot of times that the acting 380 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 2: prices may be higher than some of the other teams 381 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 2: on either side. So it cernally health to have just 382 00:15:56,960 --> 00:16:00,080 Speaker 2: established yourself as a solid team in all phases, and 383 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 2: the Braves out put them in the upper tier of 384 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 2: big league teams in general. 385 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 3: So that's good. 386 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 2: But yeah, in terms of terms of figuring out who 387 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 2: they're going to draft this year, at anyone's guts. 388 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 1: I can't imagine why a picture in particular would like 389 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 1: what would like would not like to go to Colorado 390 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 1: or Oakland right now? That'd be very surprising. Uh, I'll 391 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 1: ask you this, what would surprise you with what they do? Like, 392 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 1: is there like a not necessarily a player, but like, 393 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 1: is there like a grouping you know of type of 394 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 1: player that you would be surprised by or is it? 395 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 1: Is it truly they're gonna be the best player available 396 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 1: and there's really no read on them. 397 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I don't think anything would really surprise me. 398 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 2: I mean there might be I like that. 399 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, there there might be some profiles that you could 400 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 3: eliminate for the Braves, Like I'm just scanning through, like 401 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 3: would they take on a picture like Roddy Brat at 402 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 3: Iowa who has such huge strikes? 403 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 1: I actually saw he was he was mocked there by something. 404 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 1: Maybe it was ablely not somebody had him mocked to 405 00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 1: the Braves, Like, yeah, and I saw him. 406 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 2: I'm just like, I haven't heard anything but simply on 407 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 2: him in or out for Atlanta. But just looking at 408 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:05,920 Speaker 2: players who makes sense in this range, like a Hearson 409 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:08,480 Speaker 2: Waldrip was a better strike thrower than Bruddy Breck. But 410 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:11,159 Speaker 2: if you wanted to compare those two, I think you 411 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 2: probably could and it wouldn't be crazy off base. So yeah, 412 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:17,879 Speaker 2: like looking at everyone who like all the demographics I 413 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 2: have on our board, everyone in like this fifteen to 414 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 2: forty range, I can't imagine them like entirely out on 415 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 2: any of these profiles, like they haven't really taken and 416 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:29,359 Speaker 2: you can correct me if I'm wrong. I can't remember 417 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 2: like a super huge strikeout question mark player they'd taken 418 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 2: in the first round, Like would they go for Dakota Jordan. 419 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:38,439 Speaker 2: I imagine vance to Honecutt would be a different scenario 420 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:40,440 Speaker 2: if he slid all the way to twenty four, just 421 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:43,720 Speaker 2: given the profile, But that maybe is one. 422 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not really gonna sure then, Yeah, that makes sense. 423 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:51,200 Speaker 1: Extra kind of folds into this question that I was 424 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:53,919 Speaker 1: definitely gonna ask you. I'm sure that everybody has their 425 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:56,680 Speaker 1: favorite guys right in any class, whether it's you know 426 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 1: you're doing your thoughts versus mock drafts is different too. 427 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 1: People always to know that big boards versus mondrafts are different. 428 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:06,120 Speaker 1: Is there a guy that could reasonably fall to twenty 429 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:09,439 Speaker 1: four that's like one of your favorite players? Again, not reporting, 430 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 1: not a Braves thing. Who would you like be in 431 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:14,159 Speaker 1: love with that could reasonably be there twenty four if 432 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:14,680 Speaker 1: you were the Braves? 433 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the two most exciting players that have 434 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 2: a chance to fall into this range, and it would 435 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 2: be maybe Vance Honeycutt and stever King. Like I think 436 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 2: the Braids are probably just on the outside of their 437 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:30,120 Speaker 2: realistic floor. Like it would be really odd to see 438 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:32,680 Speaker 2: a team like the Dodgers pass on Vance honeycut given 439 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 2: how they valued athleticism and tools. But honeycut I think 440 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:39,920 Speaker 2: the tool for tool is like one or two in 441 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 2: terms of upside potential in this draft class. But it's 442 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:45,640 Speaker 2: almost like a Garrett Mitchell situation. We had him ranked 443 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 2: number six and his back class he felt to about 444 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:50,440 Speaker 2: eighteen or so to the Brewers just because of some 445 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 2: hit power injury questions. Honeycutt doesn't really have the same 446 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 2: power questions that Mitchell had. He his access his power 447 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:58,440 Speaker 2: a lot, but it's a lot of swing and miss. 448 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:00,920 Speaker 2: As soon as he's taken top thirty, who will set 449 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 2: the new like high for strikeout rate for college pitchers 450 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 2: in the Bunch Spool era in this range and I'm 451 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 2: assuming he's going to go just because the defense is great, 452 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 2: speed is great. And then fever King at Wake fourth 453 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 2: he was a Division two player, came to Wake. He 454 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:15,680 Speaker 2: has electric hands, in the box. He's a plus plus runner. 455 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 2: He's played shortstop, centerfield, third base, second base, so he 456 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:21,719 Speaker 2: can play a bunch of premium positions. And I imagine 457 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 2: whoever drafts and will start him at shortstop that it 458 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:26,240 Speaker 2: may be a separator for receiver King in this class, 459 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 2: because they're not a ton of shortstops that you can 460 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:30,879 Speaker 2: look at and have confidence they'll stay at the position 461 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 2: in this draft lass. And like, while both of their 462 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 2: ranges I think start in the middle of the first round, 463 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 2: there are enough players that are lumped into the same 464 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:42,440 Speaker 2: tier that wouldn't be shocking for either of them to 465 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 2: slip down to Atlanta. I'd be curious. Like again, I 466 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:48,159 Speaker 2: haven't heard them tied to the Braves just because most 467 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 2: people assume they're going to be off the board. But 468 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:53,360 Speaker 2: I think those would be the most exciting players who 469 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 2: I think have a reasonable chance to get there. Probably. 470 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:57,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't want to put you in a bad 471 00:19:57,920 --> 00:19:59,639 Speaker 1: spot every year, either, So it is what it is, 472 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:02,199 Speaker 1: you know. I I'm make sure to couch that that's 473 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 1: not reporting, just that's hope. That's the hopeful slam dunk 474 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 1: Grand Slam thing there. I just know that you know 475 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:11,359 Speaker 1: it's not the same as what you do. But everyone 476 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:13,479 Speaker 1: seems to have their guys that they like, even if 477 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:15,200 Speaker 1: it's well, yeah, I was gonna asking you, do you 478 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 1: have a deep guy that you like, like even like 479 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:18,359 Speaker 1: a second third, running beyond guy. 480 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:20,879 Speaker 2: That you like. I have some really deep guys that 481 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 2: I like. But this year, more than ever, it's been like, 482 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 2: typically I have a player that I'm really high on. 483 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 2: This year, for whatever reason, I haven't had a guy 484 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 2: in this like day one range that I'm like, really. 485 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:34,399 Speaker 1: That's like you're opera litters, Like yeah, yeah, Like I. 486 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 2: Had Kevin Ferrata a few years ago, who is my guy? 487 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:38,680 Speaker 2: Like when he was in high school, before he was 488 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 2: the first rounder, he was good, Like I really do 489 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 2: like and and maybe this is a player who like 490 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:45,640 Speaker 2: every team's going to have a chance for this guy. 491 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 2: But to Marion Terrell is an outfielder out of Alabama. 492 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:50,440 Speaker 2: We've got him ranked as kind of like a third 493 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 2: round talent. He's very raw as a hitter, but I 494 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 2: love the tool set and he actually drew some Michael 495 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 2: Harris comparisons early this spring that was kind of fascinating. 496 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 2: I think he's more yical at the same time than 497 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:02,879 Speaker 2: Harris more likely to be a corner profile on the 498 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 2: outfield than a centerfielder. But he has huge raw power, 499 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:10,640 Speaker 2: great bat speed, just really upside like athlete toolsy pick 500 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:14,400 Speaker 2: one of my favorite pitchers, and I actually have heard 501 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:17,200 Speaker 2: the Braves tied to this player specifically, so maybe this 502 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 2: is probably the one I should have started with. But 503 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 2: Levi Sterling, who we have ranked number fifty five overall, 504 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 2: He's a high school pitcher out of California. I think 505 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 2: he is like this perfect starter rates projection arm who 506 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 2: has like a really clean delivery, can spin the ball well, 507 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 2: there's a change up with conviction, some of the best 508 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 2: strike throwing in the class. Like he has all the 509 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:44,159 Speaker 2: traits you love as a pitching prospect, but does not 510 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:46,960 Speaker 2: have the sort of now power now stuff, which I 511 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 2: mean to me, I think is almost like beneficial for 512 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 2: some of these guys. I kind of like the steady 513 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 2: upwards velocity projection. It's got a great frame of sixty 514 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:57,399 Speaker 2: four one ninety. I imagine he's going to go at 515 00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:01,200 Speaker 2: some point on Day one actually get overpaid in the 516 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:04,440 Speaker 2: second round, but that is a pitching process, and he's 517 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:05,959 Speaker 2: also younger for the Class two, so he just has 518 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:08,359 Speaker 2: a lot of traits that I think are really strong 519 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 2: positive indicators, and there have been a number of teams 520 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:14,639 Speaker 2: that are linked to him, but the Braves are one 521 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:16,960 Speaker 2: of those. So if the Braves take him, just give 522 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 2: him what he does now, how he pitches, that advanced 523 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:22,120 Speaker 2: feel for the game he has with the Braves track 524 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 2: record of pitching development, I think that would be a 525 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 2: really fun player team pairing. So that actually might be 526 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:28,200 Speaker 2: the best best option for that question. 527 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:30,680 Speaker 1: There you go, circle him. I'm gonna let you go. 528 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 1: I have to ask this, though the Braves are at 529 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 1: least they have the reputation of really liking guys that 530 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 1: are local or close to local or semi local. Is 531 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:41,200 Speaker 1: there anybody in there in their like perspective range that 532 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 1: might be interesting that's like a Georgia guy or a 533 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 1: Georgia Ties guy. I know, obviously Condon is not going 534 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 1: to be available, but because you know, also, is that 535 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 1: an IRG reputation? Like I always wonder if that's actually 536 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:53,639 Speaker 1: a thing that's really so? 537 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 2: It is, okay, I think it is. Like we've looked 538 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 2: at teams, I think the Braves have taken more prospects 539 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:01,159 Speaker 2: out of Georgia and like the they like one and 540 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 2: two range than any team. And I think again, like 541 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 2: a lot of that is probably because there are a 542 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 2: lot of kids who grew up in Georgia who are Braves. 543 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:10,400 Speaker 1: George is the hotbed anyway of all this all the Yeah, 544 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:11,640 Speaker 1: it's a hot bed. 545 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 2: They have a great like they have this region locked 546 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:16,119 Speaker 2: down in terms of like fandom. So I would imagine 547 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:18,719 Speaker 2: there are a lot of players who just assign ability 548 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:20,920 Speaker 2: is more accessible for the Braves than other teams. And 549 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 2: I think there is something to the fact that teams 550 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 2: like to own their regions. Some teams care about this 551 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 2: more than others. And the fact that the Braves are in, 552 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 2: like you said, a hotbed, I think up stanty for 553 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 2: them in that region. But one guyle name, I think 554 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:36,359 Speaker 2: it's actually a pretty down year for Georgia and Florida 555 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:38,399 Speaker 2: specifically if they have any of that kind of northern 556 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 2: Florida territory as well. But Conrad Cason is a guy 557 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:45,119 Speaker 2: who is an obvious connection to the Braves. He is 558 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 2: in Atlanta. He's a shortstop and ray handed pitchers who's 559 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 2: got that two way factor. He's really athletic. I think 560 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:54,160 Speaker 2: most teams probably prefer him on the mound at this point. 561 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:56,200 Speaker 2: But he's got real tools as a position player, so 562 00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:57,960 Speaker 2: he's one I would just kind of throw out there. Again, 563 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 2: not a player that I've specific heard linked to the Braze, 564 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 2: but given their track record, background player profiles they've liked, 565 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:06,360 Speaker 2: it would make sense to me if they were more 566 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:08,240 Speaker 2: in on him than maybe some other teams were, and 567 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 2: we have him as like a top five round talent 568 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 2: at this point. 569 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:13,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure everyone's all very especially all right, who's 570 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 1: the guy that lives in the Atlanta area they can 571 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 1: draft at some point in the first. 572 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 2: Where where it's the park View High School product? Yeah, 573 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:23,359 Speaker 2: so kid Brown, maybe I'll throw him out there. You 574 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 2: go to park View. 575 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:28,200 Speaker 1: We are we are growing in number anyway. Thanks for 576 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:29,959 Speaker 1: doing this, man, I appreciate I told you to keep 577 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:32,440 Speaker 1: it short. We're gonna do that. Would you like to 578 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:34,399 Speaker 1: plug anything? Obviously you don't need me to plug you, 579 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:37,879 Speaker 1: but you're for you. There's like going on over there 580 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:38,639 Speaker 1: Baseball America. 581 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 2: So yeah, I just plugged Baseball America in general. That's 582 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 2: for all my work is found and anyone who supports 583 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 2: the site, whether you listen to our podcast or subscribe 584 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 2: to the website, you really allow us to do what 585 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 2: we do. So if you're if you're interested in this conversation, 586 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:54,359 Speaker 2: you're interested in BA in general. You've thought about taking 587 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 2: the plunge in the past for the sub, but you haven't. 588 00:24:57,680 --> 00:24:59,879 Speaker 2: This month is really as good as any. We've got 589 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 2: updated top one hundred, updated top thirties for every team 590 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 2: before the trade deadline happening. So if you want to know, 591 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 2: like the most updated reports on prospects of the Braves 592 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 2: may be trading for trading away, that might be useful 593 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:13,480 Speaker 2: for you. And then we've got a ton of draft 594 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:15,440 Speaker 2: stuff that's already on the site and we'll be coming 595 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:18,119 Speaker 2: over the next week. So I just plug BA in general. 596 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I definitely would recommend subscribing to Baseball America. Fantastic 597 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 1: stuff all year long, not just now. We should emphasize 598 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:25,639 Speaker 1: it's not just now, but it would be very helpful 599 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:27,720 Speaker 1: right now. I think if you had a Baseball America sub, 600 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 1: if you're someone like media doesn't know anything, that's the 601 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:31,360 Speaker 1: way to learn, like do your crash course the last 602 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 1: week is to check out. Yeah, that's a way to 603 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 1: do that. I just trust Carlos. Whatever he tells me, 604 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:36,680 Speaker 1: I'm going to listen. To thank you for doing this, 605 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:38,399 Speaker 1: man H. I sincerely appreciate it. 606 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:40,919 Speaker 2: Absolutely. Thanks Bret my pleasure. 607 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 1: Ask for everybody else, please subscribe to this show anywhere 608 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:46,160 Speaker 1: you might find podcasts, and we'll see you all next time.