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Speaker 2: It's our two on this Wednesday, Dan and The dan

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Speaker 2: Us dan Patrick Show. Glad to have you on board,

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Speaker 2: Stay as long as you like. Hall of Famer Joe

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Speaker 2: Thomas And yes, I just did some research. It's rare

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Speaker 2: when we do it. The lowest winning percentage of a

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Speaker 2: team the Hall of Famer played for. Let me see,

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Speaker 2: I got the numbers here. Joe Thomas, congratulations. He won

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Speaker 2: point two seven to three of his games. He won

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Speaker 2: forty eight games in his career. O. J. Simpson his

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Speaker 2: second and he won forty seven games. Oli Matson's on there.

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Speaker 2: Leroy Selman played for Tampa Bay. Calvin Johnson's in there,

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Speaker 2: Floyd Little, Dick Bukis. Those are some of the players

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Speaker 2: in the Hall of Fame. But Joe Thomas, who will

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Speaker 2: join us coming up. I'm not gonna lead with that,

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Speaker 2: but the fact that you can stand out on bad

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Speaker 2: teams and be great on a bad team even harder

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Speaker 2: to do. But Joe Thomas got in, and we'll ask

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Speaker 2: him about what Dion Sanders is saying. Should there be

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Speaker 2: I think there should be a penthouse level for first

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Speaker 2: ballot Hall of famers. You know, nobody's going to argue

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Speaker 2: with that. Hey did you get in first ballot?

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Speaker 1: I did?

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Speaker 2: Okay, Now we do something and maybe you separated a

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Speaker 2: little bit. And that's what Diana is saying. Hey, everybody's

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Speaker 2: in there, but is everybody really the same kind of

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Speaker 2: Hall of Famer? Is what Dianna is saying. And I've

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Speaker 2: talked about that with baseball. Bill Simmons has talked about

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Speaker 2: this where you create maybe floors a penthouse, a third floor,

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Speaker 2: second floor, first floor, and you have Babe Ruth and

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Speaker 2: Ty Cobb and Lou Garrig and some of those players,

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Speaker 2: and then next level, next level, and you could do

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Speaker 2: it with voting percentages if you wanted to. But we'll

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Speaker 2: talk to him about that coming up. We finally heard

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Speaker 2: from Aaron Boone. He got thrown out of a game.

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Speaker 2: He I don't even know how to discribe what he did.

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Speaker 2: He's on his hands and knees and he's drawing lines

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Speaker 2: and then he's complaining about balls and strikes and he's

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Speaker 2: clearly wrong in what he was arguing. Now, there could

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Speaker 2: have been other calls where maybe he would have been correct,

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Speaker 2: but he goes out there and he has a problem

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Speaker 2: with the Empire. He's down on his hands and knees,

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Speaker 2: and I I feel embarrassed for these managers because for

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Speaker 2: some reason, Davy Martinez with you know the Gnats go

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Speaker 2: back to Earl Weaver and Billy Martin like this was allowed,

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Speaker 2: This was part of the game. Oh, he's got his

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Speaker 2: he turn his hat backwards. He's going to be right

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Speaker 2: in the Empire's face. And I'm going to tell you something.

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Speaker 2: You know, he's gonna get tossed, but he's going to

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Speaker 2: get his money's work. Yeah, okay, And then you watch

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Speaker 2: it and you go, yeah, this looks silly. Here's Aaron

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Speaker 2: Boone talking about getting tossed from a game.

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Speaker 3: I think I embarrassed Bella Boon a little bit. So

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Speaker 3: I don't like that. So but you know, I also

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Speaker 4: Did you hear familiar of your cohorts and managing people

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Speaker 4: regarding the Yes, I heard from quite a few, but yes,

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Speaker 4: I heard from a lot.

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Speaker 3: All I know is Laz was telling me go so

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Speaker 3: he fit like in a way me odd to go make.

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Speaker 1: A fool of yourself.

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Speaker 2: So I guess I obliged, and I get it, But

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Speaker 2: is there a better way to make your point? Laz

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Speaker 2: Diaz was the umpire and according to umpire auditor, he

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Speaker 2: missed twenty one calls in the Yankees White Sox game.

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Speaker 2: Fourteen of the twenty one calls went against the Yankees.

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Speaker 2: After eight innings of bad calls, Aaron Boone exploded, was ejected,

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Speaker 2: and gave his best Las Diaz impression.

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Speaker 1: Can you get your message across differently? All right? Could

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Speaker 1: you go out and.

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Speaker 2: Say, les, look, I got the data to back this up.

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Speaker 2: You can run me all you want. I'm not going

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Speaker 2: to make a big deal out of this. I'm not

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Speaker 2: gonna be embarrass myself. I'm not going to draw more

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Speaker 2: attention to you literally by drawing in the dirt. But

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Speaker 2: can we just can we talk about this? Can we

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Speaker 2: address this? Can we look at this? Can I look

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Speaker 2: at this after the game with you? Can we look

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Speaker 2: I'm wrong, Like, can you do it in a way

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Speaker 2: that might be a little more mature.

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Speaker 1: Or do you have to do the history onics here?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Pulling?

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Speaker 6: But I wonder if Aaron Boone knows that once you

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Speaker 6: walk out there, they get on their heels umpires and

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Speaker 6: they're looking you're questioning me. You can't question me even

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Speaker 6: though the umpire is clearly wrong most of the time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but you're going out there now.

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Speaker 2: Now, how does Las Diaz the umpire compartmentalize that and

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Speaker 2: not think about Aaron Boone doing what he did, Like,

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Speaker 2: I'm just gonna forget that that even had.

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Speaker 6: Right, But maybe maybe now the attention that Aaron Boone

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Speaker 6: got on this guy last Dias his name is not

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Speaker 6: you know, for me household and now I know him

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Speaker 6: as an umpire who's subpar, And I wonder if it's

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Speaker 6: like the legal look into it and talk to him.

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Speaker 2: Angel Hernandez has been umpiring for a long time, embarrassing, Yes,

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Speaker 2: and people have talked about it and he's still umpiring.

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Speaker 1: They don't get rid of these umpires, Yes, Ton.

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Speaker 7: Supreme Court justices.

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Speaker 8: They could have a normal conversation. Yeah, as you posed.

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Speaker 8: But there's something about an adult temper tantrum when they're

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Speaker 8: wearing the baseball uniform that's just lovely. I just lovely.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: What Billy Martin Lessorda or O Weaver sparked with, I just.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's stuck in the seventies and eighties.

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Speaker 8: It's very entertaining and in any age, and he's not.

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Speaker 2: This is not I mean it is in an embarrassing way,

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Speaker 2: like you're laughing at not with that's Aaron Boone. Your

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Speaker 2: dad played the game, your brother played the game.

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Speaker 1: I mean, what are you doing.

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Speaker 8: It's wonderfully immature.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Todd.

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Speaker 2: world win adventure through the Mushroom Kingdom with the Super

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Speaker 9: Yes, Marv, I saw that. I had a big icy

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Speaker 9: also on Peacock. My son's watching eight times already. Let's go.

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Speaker 7: It's a new movie.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, it came out in the theaters a few months ago.

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Speaker 9: Now streaming right here on Peacock.

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Speaker 7: Oh seth rogen, isn't it?

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Speaker 8: Jack Black's in it?

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Speaker 1: Oh they're the voices.

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Speaker 7: They are, okay, Keegan Michael Key.

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Speaker 2: We love that guy, the Mushroom Kingdom.

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Speaker 1: You visited that, didn't you see me?

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Speaker 5: Oh?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, one time I passed out Mushroom Kingdom, woke

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Speaker 10: up throwing up all over the place.

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Speaker 11: It's terrifying changed my life.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not too familiar with Super Mario.

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Speaker 9: It was a video game at first, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I remember, I didn't. I never played big.

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Speaker 9: Here's a thing called Nintendo.

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Speaker 2: I never had a Nintendo Superintendent, didn't have any of that.

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Speaker 2: No Mario card, nothing, Dan.

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Speaker 6: You missed the window. You were into girls and cars

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Speaker 6: and beer and other things while we were playing video games.

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Speaker 1: But I've never played Madden. I know, I am.

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Speaker 7: That's all I did.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 1: I never not even with your son, No be a dad, No.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, I just I never I wanted to

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Speaker 2: be outside, not you know, playing with a headset on

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Speaker 2: with you know, some guy in Seattle. Yeah, World of

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Speaker 2: Warcraft or Call of Duty. You said, hello, dude, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: come on be dead.

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Speaker 1: What's pul question for hour two? Seat o Connor?

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Speaker 10: Oh man, we put up there, Dan, More pressure this

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Speaker 10: season on the Jets or the Bills?

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Speaker 1: Hm hmm.

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Speaker 10: Right now, fifty seven percent of the audience have it

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Speaker 10: on the Jets. Some people are saying that the major

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Speaker 10: market team always has more pressure on them.

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Speaker 11: I don't know if that's Bills.

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Speaker 2: Bill's had a lot of pressure on them the last

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Speaker 2: two years.

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Speaker 11: Last couple of years.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Okay, who has more pressure on them? The

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Speaker 2: Jets are the Cowboys because I don't think the Bills

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Speaker 2: had the same pressure this year that they've had in

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Speaker 2: the last two years.

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Speaker 10: But they're in that danger zone of them, Yes they are.

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Speaker 10: You know, I don't know who has a longer window.

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Speaker 11: The Jets are the Bills.

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Speaker 2: Hm, I would say the Jets right now. Buffalo lost

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Speaker 2: some players. You had the Stefan Diggs situation in the offseason,

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Speaker 2: the Damar Hamlin situation with him coming back hopefully makes

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Speaker 2: the team, but if he doesn't, then you wonder what

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Speaker 2: kind of fallout you have with that. Sean McDermott, you know,

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Speaker 2: it's the seat a little warmer for the head coach there.

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Speaker 2: You're in a tough division and we keep waiting for

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Speaker 2: them to take the next step and they haven't been

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Speaker 2: able to do it. Now, that's how quickly we move on.

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Speaker 2: We give you like two years and then we move.

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Speaker 11: On, and that seems like not the move Well, who.

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Speaker 1: Do you think will be better this year? The Bills

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Speaker 1: are the Jets.

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Speaker 10: Well, I'm areadery on record saying the Jets are going

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Speaker 10: on defeated hard knock Yeah.

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Speaker 2: All you needed to do was watch one episode of

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Speaker 2: Hard Knocks. Oh my gosh, you're all in a couple

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Speaker 2: of phone calls in here. Tom in North Carolina, Good morning, Tom,

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Speaker 2: what's on your mind today?

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Speaker 1: Good morning?

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Speaker 12: Yeah. I did have a quick question about your book

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Speaker 12: tour and things like that. But I did take a

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Speaker 12: little bit of offense to you're making a skeptical of

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Speaker 12: my alma mater, Crappinsburg State. Today.

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Speaker 1: You went to Crappensburg State. Huh, Tom, I.

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Speaker 12: Actually got a BS degree from there.

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Speaker 11: All right, Tom, all.

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Speaker 1: Right, thank you, Tom, thank you.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And are we going to make the Crappensburg State t

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Speaker 2: shirts Seaton?

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Speaker 11: I believe we're efforting there.

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Speaker 2: Speak in production. Doug in North Carolina, Good morning, Doug.

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Speaker 2: What's on your mind?

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Speaker 13: Well, a conversation you just had I had two days

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Speaker 13: ago about phrases.

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Speaker 14: That really annoy us in the English language. Yes, I

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Speaker 14: brought this up at a dinner table. I thought I

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Speaker 14: was making a brilliant point. Everyone else at the table

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Speaker 14: disagreed with me. I want to get your guys opinion

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Speaker 14: because there's one phrase that really irks me, and it's

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Speaker 14: the phrase weather or not. I think it's horribly redundant.

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Speaker 14: Weather means if you would never say if or not

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Speaker 14: Dan retires in four years, I think you don't need

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Speaker 14: the or not whether more or less sums it up.

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Speaker 5: Am I wrong?

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Speaker 2: You're not wrong, but I mean technically you're right. Technically

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Speaker 2: you're right. Technically you're right. We'll work on that. We

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Speaker 2: got four and a half years to work on our

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Speaker 2: diction our English. Where are you going to is incorrect?

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Speaker 7: That's what guys talk about.

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Speaker 2: Well, if you're curious what we do when we're not

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Speaker 8: Yeah, ton I think that ship sailed like in two

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Speaker 11: A fun and enjoying each other's company. One a long time.

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Speaker 7: Ago sports radio conversation.

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Speaker 10: I know, I know, don't google it or try to

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Speaker 11: Talk to you, Smarker then totally.

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Speaker 2: Well, we did have the suggestion box, and Todd thought

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Speaker 8: Which would have still been more conversation that we normally

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Speaker 1: Well, why don't you be the leader spearhead this?

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Speaker 11: What are you doing?

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Speaker 7: What?

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Speaker 14: What?

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Speaker 11: Talking to each other more? You get to go sit

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Speaker 1: But I'm always out talking to you. I know, I'm mingling.

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Speaker 10: We have been told to save it, and we save it.

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Speaker 1: That is true that that Pauli does say that save it.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, A lot of that's on me.

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Speaker 6: I think too much conversation most of the time working

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Speaker 1: You're doing a good job.

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Speaker 8: There you go.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, how do we not have any conversation between us?

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Speaker 7: Stay here for the shower, say for the meal.

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Speaker 8: People are legitimately working. It's not like we're purposely ignoring.

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Speaker 15: Radio, Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's good.

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Speaker 10: Test yourself mentally, gods and I woke up singing that

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a year ago.

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Speaker 2: I could sing Xanadu's the no No, no, no no,

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Speaker 8: What questions that I know?

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Speaker 16: Your luck?

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Speaker 15: It makes good sports radio, Cotton the stations. You gotta

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Speaker 7: Don't google.

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Speaker 15: Let's just try to think it out, show yourself nothing

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Speaker 1: So that's that's todd nuts. What what you're to say?

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Speaker 8: What I was gonna say? Should I have sung that

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Speaker 2: This car uh some probably feel like you had the

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Speaker 8: Let's bring out Prissy's cause sing some. Let's get quizzical,

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Speaker 2: Let me take a break here, right, phone calls coming up.

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Speaker 2: I want to know if he's seen the Johnny Manziel documentary,

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Speaker 2: And what's you think of Dion saying first ballot Hall

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Speaker 2: After this Dan Patrick show, summer's in full swing. Time

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Speaker 2: Have you guys watched the Johnny Manziel documentary, Paully, did

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Speaker 7: I watched about half last night.

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Speaker 6: It's hard to describe what Johnny's like right now. He

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Speaker 6: He talks about almost like that was a wild time.

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Speaker 6: Here's what we did. I didn't watch tape. Not bragging

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Speaker 1: I don't know if I want to watch it. It's

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Speaker 2: level and then you got a no show level with

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Speaker 2: your quarterback.

446
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Speaker 17: Yeah, it's not a lot of fun, especially when you're

447
00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:41,320
Speaker 17: an old guy and you're still showing up for mini

448
00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:43,600
Speaker 17: camps and OTAs and all the optional stuff in the

449
00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:46,760
Speaker 17: off season, and here's this first rounder who's supposed to

450
00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:50,199
Speaker 17: be doing everything he possibly can to earn the trust

451
00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:53,840
Speaker 17: and respect of his teammates and he's missing and he

452
00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:56,960
Speaker 17: can't find him. So that was really frustrating. But I

453
00:21:57,040 --> 00:22:00,520
Speaker 17: always wanted to give guys a second chance, give him

454
00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:02,399
Speaker 17: the benefit of the doubt early on. You know, hey,

455
00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:05,240
Speaker 17: maybe he still got an opportunity to turn this around.

456
00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:07,560
Speaker 17: Somebody had to see something in him for us to

457
00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:09,639
Speaker 17: draft him in the first round. I know he had

458
00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:13,639
Speaker 17: a great college career. But hey, even if he didn't

459
00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:15,760
Speaker 17: have the off the field problems, when you look at

460
00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:18,359
Speaker 17: him as just a prospect, he was short. He was

461
00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:21,760
Speaker 17: not incredibly fast or quick. It's not like he was

462
00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:23,800
Speaker 17: a short quarterback that ran a four to four and

463
00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:25,639
Speaker 17: was just lightning quick where you thought he could make

464
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Speaker 17: up for it. Like he had a ton of physical

465
00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:31,040
Speaker 17: limitations that the NFL game was going to expose, and

466
00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:32,600
Speaker 17: you were wondering, like, how is he going to be

467
00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:34,679
Speaker 17: able to get around the fact that he kind of

468
00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:38,040
Speaker 17: has a long wind up to throw. He's not really big,

469
00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:40,720
Speaker 17: so he won't be able to absorb those hits. He

470
00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:43,440
Speaker 17: hasn't really proven that he could play within the confines

471
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Speaker 17: of an offense. He was just playing backyard football in college.

472
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Speaker 17: And then he also doesn't have super athletic ability, so

473
00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:52,880
Speaker 17: you kind of look at all those things and I'm going, man,

474
00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:54,600
Speaker 17: how is this guy going to ever be able to

475
00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:56,119
Speaker 17: figure it out? And on top of that, he doesn't

476
00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:58,359
Speaker 17: really seem all that committed to being a quarterback.

477
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Speaker 2: Congratch on going into the Hall of Fame the twenty

478
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Speaker 2: twenty three clash, your thoughts on Dion saying, what if

479
00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:08,800
Speaker 2: we have a maybe a Penthouse level, first ballot Hall

480
00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:13,240
Speaker 2: of Famer? Is that a big deal that there's a

481
00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:17,639
Speaker 2: gold level maybe for those first balla Hall of famers.

482
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Speaker 17: You know, I'll let the people that are in charge

483
00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:23,159
Speaker 17: of the Hall of Fame and the fans kind of

484
00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:27,040
Speaker 17: make those distink, the determinations and distinctions.

485
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Speaker 5: And it almost makes me uncomfortable.

486
00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:33,400
Speaker 17: I'm stuttering just talking about it because being at Campton

487
00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:36,600
Speaker 17: during the enshrinement and seeing all those other gold jacket guys,

488
00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:39,159
Speaker 17: many of them who were not first ballot Hall of Famers,

489
00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:41,320
Speaker 17: but guys that were my idols growing up that I

490
00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:45,080
Speaker 17: revered as players. Some of them like Leroy Butler I

491
00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:47,119
Speaker 17: just posted on my wall as a kid. He was

492
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Speaker 17: not a first ballot Hall of Famer. And for me

493
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Speaker 17: to stand there and answer questions like, yeah, I think

494
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Speaker 17: I'm more important than my guy Leroy Butler, who, by

495
00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:57,000
Speaker 17: the way, he made me cry when he came up

496
00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:59,720
Speaker 17: and said congratulations because he was my hero as a kid.

497
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,040
Speaker 17: It just makes me uncomfortable talking about that. I know

498
00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:05,080
Speaker 17: for a guy like Dean, Hey, he's just talking about himself.

499
00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:07,560
Speaker 5: So he probably is okay.

500
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Speaker 17: Answering that question and proclaiming how he's the greatest. Then

501
00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:13,679
Speaker 17: he should have his own closet in Can't, Ohio. But

502
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:16,240
Speaker 17: for me, I'm just so proud to be one of

503
00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:19,000
Speaker 17: those gold jacket guys, and whatever they decided to do,

504
00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:22,480
Speaker 17: as long as everybody feels okay with it, I'm good

505
00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:24,520
Speaker 17: with it. But honestly, I don't know if we want

506
00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:27,040
Speaker 17: to start teering players that are in the Hall of Fame.

507
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Speaker 2: And you grew up in Wisconsin, so your Packers fan

508
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:33,560
Speaker 2: love Leroy Butler, I'm curious if you wanted gave it

509
00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:38,080
Speaker 2: any thought of playing a year in Green Bay. JJ

510
00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:40,439
Speaker 2: Watt said to me the other day that he wanted

511
00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:43,040
Speaker 2: to go and play one more year in Green Bay.

512
00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:47,320
Speaker 2: But you know, something happened where he they weren't interested

513
00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:48,160
Speaker 2: in bringing him back.

514
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Speaker 1: Did you give that any thought.

515
00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:53,800
Speaker 17: Shortly before the Denver Broncos tried to trade for me

516
00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:57,679
Speaker 17: in twenty thirteen, fourteen, somewhere in there, there was some

517
00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:02,199
Speaker 17: rumors before the Packers got David Bachtiari that they were

518
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:04,080
Speaker 17: going to try to trade for me because obviously they

519
00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:07,760
Speaker 17: had Aaron Rodgers and they hadn't yet secured their left tackle.

520
00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:11,160
Speaker 17: But Ted Thompson was the general manager at the time,

521
00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:12,920
Speaker 17: and he was not a guy that really made a

522
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:16,199
Speaker 17: lot of trades. He was just a draft and then

523
00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:18,880
Speaker 17: re signed type general manager, and so I never really

524
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:22,400
Speaker 17: put a whole lot of thought into it. But once

525
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:24,640
Speaker 17: I've retired, my knee was shot, so I couldn't play

526
00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:28,080
Speaker 17: anymore football. However, I do think playing in your backyard,

527
00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:31,680
Speaker 17: especially if you're a Wisconsin kid like JJ and going

528
00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:34,040
Speaker 17: and playing Green Bay, the amount of headaches that you

529
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:37,639
Speaker 17: have to deal with with family and friends asking for

530
00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:41,760
Speaker 17: tickets and autographs and access like that would be a

531
00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:44,919
Speaker 17: headache that would be far beyond anything that he experienced

532
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:49,600
Speaker 17: in Houston or in Arizona, and almost would be a

533
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:51,800
Speaker 17: big distraction from trying to go out and play, and

534
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:53,800
Speaker 17: to the point where I don't know how much you'd

535
00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:55,560
Speaker 17: be able to enjoy it if you were the local

536
00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:57,000
Speaker 17: boy like JJ or myself.

537
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Speaker 2: We're talking to Joe Thomas the Hall of Fame or

538
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:01,640
Speaker 2: how nervous were you this weekend?

539
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,480
Speaker 17: I wasn't overly nervous. The thing that made me the

540
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:09,240
Speaker 17: most nervous, honestly, Dan, was when we got there on Wednesday.

541
00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:11,440
Speaker 17: We had so many activities, and a lot of them

542
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:13,840
Speaker 17: were like cocktail hours where there's a band plan, and

543
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:15,960
Speaker 17: you're small talking to these people and you're kind of yelling,

544
00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:19,840
Speaker 17: you're projecting your voice. And two years ago I had

545
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:22,159
Speaker 17: vocal cord surgery, and so my vocal cords are a

546
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:24,240
Speaker 17: little bit weaker than they used to be, so my

547
00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:27,080
Speaker 17: ability to project and yell is limited, and if I

548
00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:28,920
Speaker 17: do it for like an hour, I lose my voice.

549
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:31,280
Speaker 17: And so I kept losing my voice at the end

550
00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:33,760
Speaker 17: of every day to the point where I wanted to

551
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:37,000
Speaker 17: practice my speech, but going into Saturday, I was afraid

552
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:40,159
Speaker 17: to use any extra words then was absolutely necessary, So

553
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,880
Speaker 17: I only practice my speech one time before I gave

554
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:45,159
Speaker 17: that speech because I was so worried about getting up

555
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:48,359
Speaker 17: there on Saturday afternoon and not having a voice and

556
00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:51,919
Speaker 17: try to sign my speech for people to hear me.

557
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:54,400
Speaker 17: So that was the thing that made me the most nervous.

558
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:56,760
Speaker 17: So once I got through it and I had my voice,

559
00:26:57,640 --> 00:26:59,600
Speaker 17: it was pedal to the metal and I can't wait

560
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:01,240
Speaker 17: to sell a rate the rest of the weekend.

561
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:03,919
Speaker 2: I don't know if you follow the Eric b Enemy

562
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:06,880
Speaker 2: story with the commanders, and that some of the players,

563
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:10,479
Speaker 2: I guess went to Coach Rivera complained about his style,

564
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:14,240
Speaker 2: and you know he's intense and in your face. What

565
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:18,280
Speaker 2: works now with today's football player? What kind of style?

566
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:21,240
Speaker 2: And he's not even the head coach, he's the offensive coordinator.

567
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:25,439
Speaker 17: The style that works, Dan is when you show a

568
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:29,919
Speaker 17: player that you are giving them better information, better game planning,

569
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 17: and better coaching than the opponent. You're giving them a

570
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:36,040
Speaker 17: game plan where they legitimately feel like they have an

571
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 17: advantage over their opponent, and they're going to be able

572
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 17: to now use all the ability that's God given to

573
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:43,919
Speaker 17: them to be able to go out and win and

574
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 17: succeed for themselves, for their family, for their teammates, for

575
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 17: their city, for their team. That's why always said that

576
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:52,040
Speaker 17: Kyle Shanahan was the best coach I ever had, because

577
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:54,160
Speaker 17: when you walked out of his meetings and you walked

578
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:56,120
Speaker 17: onto the field on Sunday, you felt like you were

579
00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 17: more prepared. And that's the best motivation that any pro

580
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:01,440
Speaker 17: athlete can get. And so really, your style doesn't matter,

581
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 17: whether you're Bill Belichick, whether you're just a nice softie,

582
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 17: whether Eric Bienemy and you're a yeller, like, none of

583
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:09,320
Speaker 17: that really matters, And the players don't care about any

584
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:12,239
Speaker 17: of that. What they care about is you proving that

585
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:14,919
Speaker 17: you're putting them in a better position than the player

586
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:15,920
Speaker 17: that they're going to be going against.

587
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, but the commanders are complaining, like, hey, you know what,

588
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 2: he's intense.

589
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 1: He's yelling at us.

590
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 2: You're saying that no, that shouldn't matter or doesn't matter,

591
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:27,320
Speaker 2: like did you get yelled at?

592
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:31,159
Speaker 17: Occasionally, my offensive line coaches are known for being a

593
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 17: little colorful and having a louder voices than most. But

594
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 17: I honestly, it's kind of silly. The fact that I

595
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:41,760
Speaker 17: saw this morning, I was working out and I saw

596
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 17: on TV like Eric Beenemy was yelling at his players

597
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:46,480
Speaker 17: and the players are complaining. I was like, what, So,

598
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 17: I would love to know some more details around Okay,

599
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 17: which players are complaining? Are these the guys that are

600
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:52,720
Speaker 17: bumps or are these like the starters that are like

601
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:56,240
Speaker 17: really making a big deal about this, because to me,

602
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 17: it's about the substance of what you say. If you're

603
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 17: yelling at me, but you're telling me good stuff, I'm

604
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 17: going to listen and pay attention. If you're telling me crap,

605
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 17: I don't care if you're yelling or if you're whispering,

606
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:06,280
Speaker 17: I don't want to hear about it.

607
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 1: And so to me.

608
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 17: It sounds a little bit soft and a little bit like,

609
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 17: are we worrying about the wrong things right now? Commanders

610
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 17: that you know, my coach is yelling too much?

611
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 5: Like what is he saying?

612
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:18,560
Speaker 17: That's what I would really like to know before I

613
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 17: can say that these players need to buck up and

614
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 17: tough up a little bit, Buttercup, or are they legitimately

615
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 17: like having some reasonable complaints like, Hey, I'm losing the message,

616
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,600
Speaker 17: I'm losing the coaching because he's so worried about just

617
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 17: berating us.

618
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 2: The defensive lineman that you would put in the Hall

619
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 2: of Fame who's not there.

620
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 5: He'll be there next year.

621
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Speaker 1: Dwight Freeney, that was a battle.

622
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 5: That was a battle.

623
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 17: Yeah, the times that I faced Freeany, you didn't sleep

624
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 17: much the night before because you knew how challenging it

625
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 17: was going to be. I knew what his game plan

626
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 17: was going to be. Right, He's just going to try

627
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:56,560
Speaker 17: to run around you for a full half. He's going

628
00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 17: to wear you out. Then he's going to try to

629
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 17: run you over, and then as soon as you stick

630
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:01,719
Speaker 17: your heels in the ground and you try to make

631
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 17: a stand, it'll be like third and eight and he's

632
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 17: going to spin to the inside and he's going to

633
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 17: sack your quarterback. Everybody knew when he was going to

634
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:09,520
Speaker 17: do it. Everybody knew when it was coming, but you

635
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 17: couldn't stop it. And that's why I think he belongs

636
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 17: in the Hall of Fame.

637
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 2: Who who'd you meet aside from Leroy Butler this past

638
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 2: weekend that you went, oh my god, it.

639
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:25,120
Speaker 17: Was really cool being able to reconnect with Anthony Munno's

640
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:26,840
Speaker 17: because I'd seen him a few times and I've worked

641
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:29,640
Speaker 17: with him a few times during my career. But I

642
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:32,000
Speaker 17: think now being part of that club and having that

643
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 17: gold jacket, it's just a little bit different when you

644
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 17: hang out with those guys and when you spend some time,

645
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 17: I will say, oh, Jack Youngblood. Going back to the

646
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 17: voice problem, he was outside the hotel on Friday and

647
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 17: he was smoking a cigar and having like a Heineken.

648
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 17: It was like ten thirty in the morning, and I'm like, man,

649
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 17: you're really living the life, aren't you. And he's like, hey,

650
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 17: I got a cigar for Anyboddy And I was like,

651
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:57,560
Speaker 17: I can't have a cigar yet. I'm watching my throat

652
00:30:57,840 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 17: because I don't want to lose my voice and cigars

653
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 17: are not good for that, But I can't wait to

654
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 17: have a cigar with Jack Youngblood because that would be

655
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 17: so stinking cool.

656
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 5: Not only for me, but for my dad and my

657
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:08,840
Speaker 5: father in law and.

658
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 17: All these people that I were looking up to when

659
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 17: I was a kid, Like that era of the NFL

660
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 17: was so cool, and all those guys that went on

661
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 17: and were in Hollywood, and they had these larger than

662
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 17: life personas and personalities. It was really cool meeting them

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Speaker 17: and just seeing those guys relaxed, smoking a cigar and

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Speaker 17: having a noon beer on a Friday afternoon.

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Speaker 1: How challenging is it rooting for the Browns nowadays?

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Speaker 5: It's not challenging for me.

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Speaker 17: I played there eleven years and I had Johnny Menzel

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Speaker 17: was my quarterback. I had a lot of other guys

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Speaker 17: that maybe weren't fan favorites, or maybe had some issues

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Speaker 17: in their past or just didn't play all that well.

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Speaker 5: But I think for me, and I think.

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Speaker 17: For a lot of other Browns fans, it's the Browns

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Speaker 17: and it's the team, and that is what we get

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Speaker 17: most excited about, and that's where our loyalty lies.

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Speaker 2: So you don't factor in Deshaun Watson at all, it's

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Speaker 2: just you're rooting for the Browns as a team.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 17: I think that for most Browns fans, myself included, Like,

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Speaker 17: we talked only about that last year, Like that was

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Speaker 17: all we talked about in training camp, that's all we

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Speaker 17: talked about during the season, That's all we talked about

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Speaker 17: after he came back. And I think for most of us,

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Speaker 17: we're really excited to talk about Deshaun Watson on the

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Speaker 17: football field because what happened off the football field will

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Speaker 17: be dissected and talked about till the end of days,

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Speaker 17: and people will agree, people will disagree, But for the

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Speaker 17: most part, it's kind of a dead horse for Cleveland

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Speaker 17: people because it's like, look, I'm gonna cheer for my team,

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Speaker 17: and I know that a lot of people don't agree

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Speaker 17: with us signing Deshaun Watson, But at the end of

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Speaker 17: the day, he's allowed back in the NFL and the

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Speaker 17: suspension is over. He served his time there, and the

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Speaker 17: Browns were not the only team that we're trying to

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Speaker 17: sign him, and I'm sure that if he plays really

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Speaker 17: well this year, a lot of people will not be

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Speaker 17: thinking about how he ended up getting there.

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Speaker 2: Good to talk to you once again. Congratulations and we'll

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Speaker 2: be in touch.

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Speaker 5: Thank you, Joe, thanks for having me. Dan.

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Speaker 2: That's Joe Thomas Brown's Hall of Fame tackle. We'll come back,

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Speaker 2: will get to your phone calls. And the fact that

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Speaker 2: it was a year ago today Olivia Newton John passed

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Speaker 2: away and we will play the entire tribute that Fritzy

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Speaker 2: wrote to Olivia Newton John. Very thoughtful of us, yes, well,

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Speaker 2: very thoughtful of Todd. Yeah, because nobody asked for a

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Speaker 2: tribute song to Olivia Newton John, but you provided us

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Speaker 2: with one.

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Speaker 8: It had to be acknowledged, especially on sports radio.

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Speaker 10: Yes, indeed, and it wasn't even really a tribute song.

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Speaker 10: It was like a parody of a song. In case

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Speaker 10: we start doing a Quizky show on this show. It

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Speaker 10: was like setting up a bit that we never did.

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Speaker 16: Listen to comeback stories. I'm Darren Waller. You may know

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Speaker 16: me best as a tied end for the New York Giants.

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Speaker 16: He's a mindfulness teacher, a yoga instructor, a life coach,

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Speaker 16: a man fully invested in seeing people reach their fullest potential.

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Speaker 16: And we've come to form this platform of Comeback Stories

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Speaker 16: in the lives of well known guests with amazing stories.

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Speaker 16: Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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Speaker 2: Get some phone calls here. Also, it was a year

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Speaker 2: ago today Laby Newton John. She was a great performer

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Speaker 2: and actress, singer. She was in a few big movies

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Speaker 2: like Grease. I think it was yesterday was the official date,

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Speaker 2: but I think it was today. Todd recorded it a

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Speaker 2: year ago today, and she was in Greece with John Travolta,

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Speaker 2: and she had a song Let's Get Physical, and Todd,

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Speaker 2: for some reason, when Olivia Newton John passed away, wanted

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Speaker 2: to do a tribute song. I guess, take me through

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Speaker 2: the thought process. I mean, I've done this with Bob

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Speaker 2: Dylan and Springsteen, and you know, take me through the

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Speaker 2: process of writing this song.

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Speaker 8: Big Olivia Newton John Finn. I was feeling very sad

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Speaker 8: to hear the news. I loved Greece. I loved a

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Speaker 8: lot of her songs. I think Physical is like the

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Speaker 8: number two song after Kiss on my List in nineteen

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Speaker 8: eighty one or something like that. And I'm like, let

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Speaker 8: me put a little song together, which ended up into

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Speaker 8: kind of morphing into something that maybe we could use

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Speaker 8: on the show for our sports trivia, and I took

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Speaker 8: let's get physical, and then we created this.

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Speaker 15: We're coming up with questions data know your luck? It

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Speaker 15: mixed third sports radio conversation. You gotta answer it just right,

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Speaker 15: you know.

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Speaker 1: What I mean, don't google.

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Speaker 15: Let's just try to think it out, challenge yourself. Nothing

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Speaker 15: to make sure you know what you're talking about, or

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Speaker 15: get embarrassed on radio and TV. Let's get quizical, quizical.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to quizical.

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Speaker 15: Let's get into quizical.

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Speaker 1: Let me hear your runs in that. Okay, you're runs

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Speaker 1: in that? What do you what do you think when

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Speaker 1: you hear it, Now, don't hang off in frustration.

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Speaker 15: We're up against the commercialable.

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Speaker 1: Timing is horrible.

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Speaker 5: It's very cringe.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you're singing is and your timing this is

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Speaker 1: rarely heard.

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Speaker 11: Second verse, by the way, Okay, it.

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Speaker 15: Was supposed to be something to honor her, brings out

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Speaker 15: the animal you and me. Yes, I want to get quizical.

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Speaker 15: It's a quizical.

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Speaker 8: Let me hear you're rounds now. That's just brutal. That's

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Speaker 8: just brutal. At the time it sounded like something okay, cool.

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Speaker 1: Okay, But at the time you thought that that was good.

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Speaker 8: Yes, at the time, I think that was what a

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Speaker 8: nice creative tribute to Olivery Newton John that we can

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Speaker 8: have some fun.

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Speaker 1: And you know who was trying to sabotage you.

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Speaker 8: Probably everyone, no.

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Speaker 2: Particular could have He could have said to somebody who

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Speaker 2: was helping you record that don't give any any opinion

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Speaker 2: on it.

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Speaker 6: Yes, Paul, imagine if I had stopped that gold from happening.

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Speaker 6: I do imagine if that would have been the worst

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Speaker 6: day of my career. The guys in back and Fritzy

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Speaker 6: showed it to me, I'm like, go nuts, That's what

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Speaker 6: I said to him, and then he went back to

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Speaker 6: tape it and one of the guys in back says,

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Speaker 6: you know it's not matching at all, the timing and

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Speaker 6: the words.

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Speaker 7: I go, let Fritzy do his thing and we'll play

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Speaker 7: it on the air.

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Speaker 1: It was suggested to me that maybe you're tone deaf.

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Speaker 8: Wow, that's a little harsh.

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Speaker 7: It's just in.

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Speaker 8: I don't think I'm tone deaf, but I just was

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Speaker 8: way off. I was going too fast that I wasn't found.

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Speaker 8: And to Paul's credit, I think he did give me

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Speaker 8: one chance to get out of like you sure you want.

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Speaker 2: To do He did because I said, you know, man,

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Speaker 2: I can't lead him off the plank here. And then

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Speaker 2: he PAULI goes, no, no, he's only in. He thinks

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Speaker 2: it's great.

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Speaker 8: I said, PAULI stand clear, I'm going to do this.

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Speaker 8: So now back up.

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Speaker 10: There was the conversation that happened from the German who

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Speaker 10: was like, guys, guys, guys, we gotta start. He's got

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Speaker 10: to hear the music. He's got to be able to.

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Speaker 11: Hear the music.

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Speaker 10: And I think our weeks our cameraman was like, the

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Speaker 10: music is playing, yes.

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Speaker 6: Yes, right, it reminds me of the scene in Buggie

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Speaker 6: Knights where Mark Wahlberg's character is singing, remember feel my.

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Speaker 1: Heat, you got the touch, You've got the touch. It's

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Speaker 1: that good.

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Speaker 7: May's selling at the producers. That good.

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Speaker 10: Apparently there is if you think you're tone deaf, take

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Speaker 10: the quiz from Harvard's Music Lab.

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Speaker 11: Okay, or try this test.

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Speaker 1: Okay, what's the test?

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Speaker 11: Uh?

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Speaker 10: I'm not sure. I have to read into it a

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Speaker 10: little bit more. But apparently there are some tests. You

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Speaker 10: could take the fund out of your tone deaf.

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Speaker 8: Ok Maybe I could open up a tone Look, I

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Speaker 8: could just be tone deaf and we could kind of

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Speaker 8: go on tour together. Fun right, all right, tone deaf,

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Speaker 8: tone deaf, it's singing fun call Medina wild thing. I

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Speaker 8: could do. Let's get quizzical and we'll sell it and.

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Speaker 1: You could be on with most deaf.

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Speaker 8: Okay, there's something there. Yeah, I think we're working something out,

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Speaker 8: are we?

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Speaker 1: Are we a better show because of that? You think?

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Speaker 12: So?

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Speaker 6: That is a home run. That is an Andy Coffin

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Speaker 6: unintentional home run.

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Speaker 9: Yes, Mark, Then he can do comedy and be on

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Speaker 9: death comedy jam okay, all right, death comedy on.

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Speaker 1: The reaction death.

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Speaker 2: Let me get a couple of phone calls in here,

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Speaker 2: Robert and Sacramento.

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Speaker 1: Hello Robert, Hey, guys, thanks for taking my call.

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Speaker 13: You got me, You got me worked up this morning

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Speaker 13: with the whole Aaron Boom, Okay, this is what happens

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Speaker 13: when you give a kid the keys to the car

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Speaker 13: who's never driven before, no coaching experience, no managurial experience,

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Speaker 13: and he's carlaying one fricking home run into a managerial job.

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Speaker 13: That's all.

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Speaker 1: He is horrible.

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Speaker 13: He doesn't know how to argue, he doesn't know how

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Speaker 13: to manage. He has underachieved completely while he's been there.

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Speaker 13: And Dave Ross is doing the same. Dave Ross is

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Speaker 13: doing the same thing with the Cubs. You bring these

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Speaker 13: guys in that were faithful to you as a player,

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Speaker 13: did something big, but have no experience, and they're dragging

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Speaker 13: the team down. Aaron Boone doesn't belong as a manager

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Speaker 13: in major league baseball.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but the Cubs are doing well, Roberts.

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Speaker 13: Are doing okay, And I think Dave Ross probably had

880
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Speaker 13: a better career than but than Aaron Boon. Aaron Boone

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Speaker 13: doesn't belong as a major league manager.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm going to be.

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Speaker 2: I'll be surprised if he's back next year. But Aaron

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Speaker 2: Boone is not telling them not to hit. I don't

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Speaker 2: like how he handles his bullpen at all. Like a

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Speaker 2: guy can pitch a perfect inning and then the manager goes,

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Speaker 2: n got to bring him out. To me, it doesn't

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Speaker 2: make any sense. There's certain times where you go, you

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Speaker 2: know what, I like what he's doing. Yeah, got good velocity.

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Speaker 2: You know, the catcher says this, it's there. They've got

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Speaker 2: it down. So it's so analytical. How many pitches did

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Speaker 2: he throw?

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Speaker 1: Sixteen?

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Speaker 2: Okay, warm up somebody and then how many times do

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Speaker 2: you bring in that guy and then he gives it up?

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Speaker 2: Happens a lot. Let's see Steven California, Hi, Steve.

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Speaker 12: Hi Dan five.

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Speaker 18: Eleven to twenty. Okay, So you guys talked about I'm

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Speaker 18: a math teacher. I've been teaching math for about twenty

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Speaker 18: five years. That was always a very hard question answering.

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Speaker 18: A kid in the middle of class would raise his

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Speaker 18: so the first couple of years I struggle with that

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Speaker 18: question myself. But you know what, I came to the

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Speaker 18: realization that we're training the kids to learn how to

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Speaker 18: solve problems. We're training their brains, trying to train their

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Speaker 18: brain so they can solve problems so as they get older,

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Speaker 18: you know, so it's not always about the plus minus

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Speaker 18: negative positives.

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Speaker 1: You're right, I get it with algebra. Thank you, Steve.

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Speaker 2: Hearing from a lot of mouth teachers that we need algebra,

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Speaker 2: I didn't find an hour on the way