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With Super Bowl winning Bears guard Tom Thayer, 0:00:44.400 --> 0:00:46.880 I'm Jeff Joniac. We're brought to you by Miller Lights. 0:00:46.920 --> 0:00:49.120 Tom Thayer one hundred and thirty three games, including one 0:00:49.200 --> 0:00:51.960 hundred and thirty straight starts at right guard and one 0:00:52.000 --> 0:00:55.720 of the best centers in NFL history, Six time Pro Bowlder, 0:00:55.800 --> 0:00:59.200 OH six First Team All Pro olden CRUs number twenty 0:00:59.200 --> 0:01:01.560 seven of the Bears one hundred list our guest one 0:01:01.640 --> 0:01:03.640 hundred ninety eight games on hundred ninety one starts in 0:01:03.680 --> 0:01:07.280 a Bears uniform. First start against the Packers season finale, 0:01:07.319 --> 0:01:10.680 Soldier Field finished on a streak of one hundred and 0:01:10.720 --> 0:01:15.399 thirty six straight starts. And this is episode one on 0:01:15.440 --> 0:01:17.480 the Bears Et Cetera podcast. Good to have you, Onen. 0:01:17.520 --> 0:01:20.280 The only reason I'm bringing up all that stuff is 0:01:20.319 --> 0:01:24.240 because it's rare, certainly in today's game, and I'll give 0:01:24.240 --> 0:01:27.160 you some statistical proof of that. But uh, you guys 0:01:27.160 --> 0:01:28.960 were both iron man. Thank you for taking the time 0:01:28.959 --> 0:01:30.960 to join us talk a little ball talk about what's 0:01:31.000 --> 0:01:33.959 going on in your life and Chicago Bears football. 0:01:34.360 --> 0:01:36.960 Well, I got an email, I said, Jeff, Joni I 0:01:37.000 --> 0:01:40.000 could talk there, and I said, Matt, it'd be my pleasure. 0:01:40.080 --> 0:01:41.440 To jump on with you guys. 0:01:41.440 --> 0:01:43.199 I mean, you guys were doing it when I was there, 0:01:43.280 --> 0:01:45.639 so it's always honored to be on with you guys. 0:01:45.640 --> 0:01:47.800 You guys are real as you guys know, I do 0:01:47.880 --> 0:01:50.200 some of this analyst stuff nowadays, and you guys are 0:01:50.240 --> 0:01:53.000 the real o gs of this this work and guys 0:01:53.000 --> 0:01:55.480 that I've listened to and learned a lot from. 0:01:55.520 --> 0:01:56.920 So it's a pleasure for me. 0:01:56.960 --> 0:02:00.280 Honestly, we we were looking forward to it, believe when 0:02:00.320 --> 0:02:02.280 we found out this was going to go down, I 0:02:02.360 --> 0:02:05.320 bring up the iron Man angle. For this reason, Detroit 0:02:05.360 --> 0:02:08.840 Lions last year were by far the only team in 0:02:08.880 --> 0:02:12.200 the league they have the same starting five offensive linemen 0:02:12.280 --> 0:02:14.800 for the most snaps. They were at eighty percent of 0:02:14.880 --> 0:02:18.560 snaps and the next closest team and I don't remember 0:02:18.600 --> 0:02:21.760 what it was like fifty five percent in this league. Now, 0:02:22.280 --> 0:02:24.639 you guys wouldn't have it back in your day. I mean, 0:02:24.639 --> 0:02:27.040 you had you had appendic appendix removed, you were in 0:02:27.120 --> 0:02:30.480 the lineup the next week. Oland. Do you find that 0:02:30.520 --> 0:02:34.480 one of the biggest changes in offensive line in the 0:02:34.520 --> 0:02:36.600 current NFL landscape? 0:02:36.680 --> 0:02:38.919 Yeah, I mean, I mean guys playing every week, playing 0:02:38.960 --> 0:02:40.919 through injuries. I mean you could say guys are a 0:02:40.960 --> 0:02:43.640 lot smarter nowadays, right, the doctors know a lot more. 0:02:44.280 --> 0:02:46.160 I remember playing through a high ankles frame. 0:02:46.200 --> 0:02:49.399 Probably shouldn't have, right, basically I was useless that game, 0:02:49.440 --> 0:02:51.799 but we did Detroit in the last game of the 0:02:51.880 --> 0:02:54.480 year play with a high ankles frame. Couldn't really walk 0:02:54.520 --> 0:02:55.840 on LA. I don't know if they'd let you do 0:02:55.919 --> 0:02:58.680 that nowadays. So a lot of times people are always 0:02:58.680 --> 0:03:03.040 talking to you about in your career, your life after football. Uh, 0:03:03.160 --> 0:03:05.720 you know, in my day and especially in Tom's day, 0:03:06.000 --> 0:03:08.160 we weren't smart enough to talk about those things. I mean, 0:03:08.800 --> 0:03:12.080 guys nowadays know the name of every muscle on their body. Right, 0:03:12.080 --> 0:03:14.400 if you would have told me olin work on your 0:03:14.480 --> 0:03:16.839 so as. Back I talked about the dinosaur. I didn't 0:03:16.840 --> 0:03:18.919 know what that was a so as. Maybe there was 0:03:18.960 --> 0:03:21.160 some kind of food at a buffet somewhere. 0:03:20.800 --> 0:03:22.359 But what is it? 0:03:22.720 --> 0:03:23.079 What is it? 0:03:23.200 --> 0:03:25.600 By the way, educating, it's your hit flexer. It's your 0:03:25.639 --> 0:03:27.840 hit flexer runs from your hip to the middle of 0:03:27.919 --> 0:03:28.359 your spine. 0:03:28.440 --> 0:03:30.520 Right. But see, even I know that nowadays, and an 0:03:30.520 --> 0:03:32.079 idiot like me knows that, means. 0:03:31.880 --> 0:03:36.240 Everyone knows it. I went to this Gridiron Greats. It 0:03:36.280 --> 0:03:38.360 was a great event. Uh, they put me in their 0:03:38.360 --> 0:03:40.640 Hall of Fame. But you know they helped players in 0:03:40.720 --> 0:03:43.440 dire need. And my daughter actually said, what are you 0:03:43.480 --> 0:03:45.000 doing dad? In my I was in my office and 0:03:45.040 --> 0:03:47.800 I said, I'm working on giving a speech at Gridiron 0:03:47.840 --> 0:03:50.040 grat She looked at me, she shook her head. She goes, 0:03:50.360 --> 0:03:54.440 chat GBT, Dad just punched your name, and sure enough, man, 0:03:54.480 --> 0:03:56.400 you do that. And they came up with a speech 0:03:56.800 --> 0:03:59.160 for that exact event. And I only tell you that 0:03:59.200 --> 0:04:02.200 because that's what these have nowadays, right, Google, What do 0:04:02.240 --> 0:04:04.920 you have? What's wrong with you? Should you play with this? 0:04:04.960 --> 0:04:07.240 Should you play with that? We didn't know those things. 0:04:07.280 --> 0:04:09.440 Took a lot of pride and playing every game. Honestly. 0:04:09.800 --> 0:04:12.480 I remember we played the Minnesota Vikings one year. I 0:04:12.480 --> 0:04:14.120 think it was two thousand and five. Remember we had 0:04:14.120 --> 0:04:16.560 to buy we were going up there to play in Minnesota, 0:04:17.040 --> 0:04:19.400 and we already were set in we're gonna buy and 0:04:19.400 --> 0:04:21.760 we're gonna play the next week, and love You called 0:04:21.760 --> 0:04:23.160 me in. He said, we're not going to play this week. 0:04:23.160 --> 0:04:24.800 You have a straight anchor. I said, the hell you're not. 0:04:25.520 --> 0:04:26.960 The hell you're not going to play men this week? 0:04:27.080 --> 0:04:29.400 Especially with you guys knew how I felt about Pat Williams. 0:04:29.440 --> 0:04:31.200 Didn't really like him when I played, and really wanted 0:04:31.200 --> 0:04:33.000 to play against him. And I said, I am not 0:04:33.040 --> 0:04:35.640 taking myself out of a game against Pat Williams. And 0:04:35.640 --> 0:04:37.400 there was an argument there for a while, right, and 0:04:37.760 --> 0:04:40.479 really just really my argument to love You was, this 0:04:40.600 --> 0:04:42.200 is why I train all year, this is why I 0:04:42.240 --> 0:04:44.040 work so hard in the weight room. I want to 0:04:44.040 --> 0:04:46.279 play every game. If the starter's out there, I want 0:04:46.279 --> 0:04:48.520 to be out there. And like you're saying, Jeff, things 0:04:48.560 --> 0:04:49.080 are changed. 0:04:49.279 --> 0:04:51.200 It's your opinion whether it's better or for worse. 0:04:52.200 --> 0:04:54.039 Old timer like me, I like to see guys play 0:04:54.080 --> 0:04:56.680 every game, get on the field with their teammates, get 0:04:56.720 --> 0:04:58.120 out there. And you know, the Bears talf a lot 0:04:58.120 --> 0:05:00.440 about culture, and you're talking about culture. 0:05:01.000 --> 0:05:03.240 You know, Ohen, there's a few guys in the history 0:05:03.240 --> 0:05:05.520 of my broadcasting career, which is twenty nine years, that 0:05:05.560 --> 0:05:07.640 I admire as much as you. And I'm only telling 0:05:07.640 --> 0:05:10.280 you this because we're on Zoom, But the reason is 0:05:11.880 --> 0:05:14.600 the reason is ollen and you talk about the culture, 0:05:15.160 --> 0:05:17.640 the requirements you put on the rest of the offensive 0:05:17.680 --> 0:05:20.359 line room, and the kind of filtered over to the 0:05:20.400 --> 0:05:23.080 rest of the team. But that whole all for one 0:05:23.120 --> 0:05:25.719 and one for all attitude. I think that's what's missing 0:05:25.760 --> 0:05:29.360 from the game today. And if they could have someone 0:05:29.680 --> 0:05:32.720 that led by example like you did. Because when I 0:05:32.720 --> 0:05:34.599 would sit on the bus and I'd be watching the 0:05:34.600 --> 0:05:37.080 team getting ready to travel or being in a game 0:05:37.120 --> 0:05:40.839 and watching all you guys come out, I really appreciated 0:05:40.839 --> 0:05:43.120 that man, and I think that's something that's missing in 0:05:43.160 --> 0:05:45.560 the game today, and for all the guys that we've 0:05:45.600 --> 0:05:48.839 been around for what you did for this organization, this 0:05:48.920 --> 0:05:51.200 team in terms of the culture and the requirements that 0:05:51.279 --> 0:05:54.440 you put on their back. I think that's something that's 0:05:54.440 --> 0:05:55.800 hard to replace nowadays. 0:05:56.960 --> 0:05:59.279 Oh well, first of all, I appreciate it and be respected, 0:05:59.279 --> 0:06:01.400 as you know, Jeff, I guy like Tom. It means 0:06:01.400 --> 0:06:03.240 the world to a former football player like me. But 0:06:03.960 --> 0:06:05.800 you know, we also had a great locker room, as 0:06:05.800 --> 0:06:08.080 you guys know. You guys are there, man, We had names. 0:06:08.080 --> 0:06:10.720 We had Roberto guards that we had, Ruben Brown, Brian 0:06:10.839 --> 0:06:14.000 Urlac or Peanut Tilm and Lance Bridge, Mike Brown. There 0:06:14.000 --> 0:06:17.200 were so many leaders there that leading on that team 0:06:17.240 --> 0:06:19.400 was easy, right, and saying the temple every day and 0:06:19.400 --> 0:06:21.320 is getting guys who followed because you had so many 0:06:21.320 --> 0:06:23.880 guys who believed in the same things and believe in 0:06:23.920 --> 0:06:26.520 playing football. And like you're saying, it's changed, right. I 0:06:26.600 --> 0:06:29.359 coach a lot of little league football, coach high school 0:06:29.360 --> 0:06:30.760 football the last three years. 0:06:30.960 --> 0:06:33.000 Some of these high school guys are getting paid now, right. 0:06:33.040 --> 0:06:36.240 I got two sons who play for Illinois once who 0:06:36.240 --> 0:06:38.760 started center on one's ballet for a linebacker job. 0:06:39.120 --> 0:06:40.839 They get paid over there at Illinois. 0:06:40.960 --> 0:06:43.800 Keeping them moving in the right direction, keeping them worried 0:06:43.800 --> 0:06:46.320 about the right stuff. I always tell them, we're about 0:06:46.360 --> 0:06:48.320 being good in football and it nothing else really matters 0:06:48.320 --> 0:06:50.560 and everything else will fall into place. So it's a 0:06:50.560 --> 0:06:52.400 different it's a different world we live in now with 0:06:52.720 --> 0:06:55.520 social media and the culture and the way things are done. 0:06:55.520 --> 0:06:58.560 But like you're saying, Tom, the same thing, still winning football, 0:06:58.560 --> 0:07:00.560 and can you find it? Can you find it? Can 0:07:00.560 --> 0:07:03.279 you go out there and find somebody? And I always 0:07:03.279 --> 0:07:05.000 say this, I don't know if you guys agree. When 0:07:05.000 --> 0:07:07.520 you talk about culture. Players build your culture. You have 0:07:07.560 --> 0:07:09.800 to draft culture, right. You want guys who lift weights, 0:07:09.880 --> 0:07:11.920 You better draft someone who lift weights, right. You want 0:07:11.960 --> 0:07:14.440 guys who hit people on every play, They better be 0:07:14.520 --> 0:07:16.200 hitting guys on every play on the film, Like you're 0:07:16.240 --> 0:07:18.560 not going to create that when they walk in the building. 0:07:18.840 --> 0:07:21.560 I think players make your culture. Obviously, coaches do to. 0:07:21.920 --> 0:07:23.680 I know the Bears have a new coaching staff up 0:07:23.680 --> 0:07:25.560 there to try and get things moving in the right direction. 0:07:25.680 --> 0:07:29.880 But man, I appreciate you saying that, but we really 0:07:30.360 --> 0:07:33.040 really had a good locker room, good coaching staff. Love 0:07:33.120 --> 0:07:36.160 He really really empowered us to lead, really gave us 0:07:36.160 --> 0:07:38.320 a locker room and let us let us go from there. 0:07:39.160 --> 0:07:41.720 This podcast brought to you by the official beer partner 0:07:41.760 --> 0:07:44.120 of Your Chicago Bears tastes like Middle Time Chicago. 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Whenever I turned the film, I'm like, hey, well, hey, 0:08:18.000 --> 0:08:19.240 I didn't even know I got beat there. 0:08:19.320 --> 0:08:21.840 I don't remember that, right, So I only remember the 0:08:21.880 --> 0:08:22.400 good plays. 0:08:22.440 --> 0:08:24.840 And I you know, my uh my kids always laughed 0:08:24.840 --> 0:08:26.520 at me because I'll turn the film on and my 0:08:26.560 --> 0:08:27.960 boys will be like, I tell you said, he never 0:08:27.960 --> 0:08:28.360 got beat. 0:08:28.360 --> 0:08:31.200 And I said, my mind, you know that didn't even happen. 0:08:31.280 --> 0:08:36.439 But I remember last year the Illinois starting linebacker went 0:08:36.520 --> 0:08:38.680 down and James, my young little boy, started at Mike 0:08:39.040 --> 0:08:41.240 and so he plays on every special team too, and 0:08:41.240 --> 0:08:42.920 he ended the year started about the last five or 0:08:42.960 --> 0:08:46.680 six games at middle linebacker with Josh Lang center. I thought, 0:08:46.679 --> 0:08:48.040 that's what I always wanted, right, I was like, I 0:08:48.040 --> 0:08:49.840 gotta get James on the field, and it is what 0:08:49.880 --> 0:08:52.600 you want. But man, was I exhausted me and my wife, 0:08:52.679 --> 0:08:55.040 Voe said after the game, because there was never a 0:08:55.080 --> 0:08:57.040 play where one of them weren't in there playing. And 0:08:57.040 --> 0:08:59.319 every time I thought, okay, you know the offense is 0:08:59.320 --> 0:09:00.760 going to pun I'm a take a break here, I 0:09:00.840 --> 0:09:02.800 forgot James is coming out on the punt team. 0:09:02.880 --> 0:09:04.400 And then he was playing middle linebacker. 0:09:04.480 --> 0:09:06.760 You just you know, like you're you're like, okay, like 0:09:06.800 --> 0:09:08.719 don't screw this up, right, like like going there and 0:09:08.760 --> 0:09:11.440 you like the whole time. I'm an old ball player, 0:09:11.440 --> 0:09:13.880 like you guys know, and everything to me is wrong, 0:09:13.960 --> 0:09:15.760 right yeah, because you're foot in the right place, Like. 0:09:16.240 --> 0:09:17.959 Why didn't you do this? Why didn't you do that? 0:09:18.720 --> 0:09:22.360 This year, James set me film and I was watching 0:09:22.400 --> 0:09:24.560 it with him and it's some clips to him playing 0:09:24.559 --> 0:09:27.599 middle linebacker, and I said, James, I've told you a 0:09:27.640 --> 0:09:30.000 million times I want you to blow that center's head off. 0:09:30.080 --> 0:09:32.920 In the spring springball and he like goes quiet, and 0:09:32.960 --> 0:09:35.680 I'm like, I'm telling you, I said, James, are you there? 0:09:35.800 --> 0:09:38.480 I want that guy's head blown off? Right? 0:09:38.760 --> 0:09:41.280 And he like and like no said he like. Finally 0:09:41.280 --> 0:09:42.880 he goes Dad, I go, yeah, he goes, that's Josh. 0:09:42.920 --> 0:09:48.360 I go, don't maybe not maybe, don't blop your maybe, 0:09:48.440 --> 0:09:51.280 don't blow your brother. I'm sorry, you know, so I said, 0:09:51.320 --> 0:09:53.240 I don't want too much brother in law going on. 0:09:53.320 --> 0:09:55.240 But I said, I understand, man, You're not coming down 0:09:55.280 --> 0:09:56.640 here and try to take that guy's head off. 0:09:56.760 --> 0:09:59.800 That's funny because we're interviewing some folks yesterday. Well you Dolman, 0:10:00.520 --> 0:10:03.560 his dad Chris Dowman, former forty nine er, Tom asked 0:10:03.600 --> 0:10:06.000 him a great question. You know, who's the first person 0:10:06.040 --> 0:10:08.680 you call after a game? He calls his dad and 0:10:08.760 --> 0:10:10.960 they break it down. Do you do they call you 0:10:11.040 --> 0:10:12.600 as well, first thing after a game. 0:10:13.280 --> 0:10:15.960 Yeah, they do, and we talk and I'm in most 0:10:15.960 --> 0:10:18.880 games there in Champagne and we talk after every game 0:10:18.920 --> 0:10:19.480 and it's awesome. 0:10:19.480 --> 0:10:19.600 Man. 0:10:19.640 --> 0:10:22.160 I mean, like, you guys know you can't force him, right, 0:10:22.240 --> 0:10:24.080 You can't force him to play this game. 0:10:24.080 --> 0:10:25.600 You can't force them to love it, but they do. 0:10:26.120 --> 0:10:28.240 So I got lucky there and I get to talk 0:10:28.280 --> 0:10:31.960 to them after every game and learned the game from 0:10:32.000 --> 0:10:33.560 a middle linebacker's position, right. 0:10:33.600 --> 0:10:34.400 And sometimes I. 0:10:34.440 --> 0:10:36.760 Called Bob Babbage and talk to him about you know, 0:10:36.800 --> 0:10:38.839 he's retired now, so I think he's a perfect guy. 0:10:38.840 --> 0:10:41.360 He talks about linebacker playing what he should be doing, 0:10:41.400 --> 0:10:44.120 what they shouldn't be doing, and just really enjoying that 0:10:44.120 --> 0:10:44.520 part of it. 0:10:44.600 --> 0:10:47.120 Even my daughter plays a volleyby. 0:10:46.679 --> 0:10:48.640 Mina, Ohio. Now I get to learn that game, right. 0:10:48.679 --> 0:10:50.360 Of course, I'm an expert at I just trust me. 0:10:52.679 --> 0:10:55.120 She's rolled her eyes a million times a week. So 0:10:55.160 --> 0:10:58.000 the more I've learned about that game of volleyball, the 0:10:58.040 --> 0:11:00.199 more I realized, like the first three years, boy was 0:11:00.200 --> 0:11:01.079 I strewing her up? 0:11:01.880 --> 0:11:02.240 Was wrong? 0:11:03.000 --> 0:11:05.800 Well you are a I mean it's it's your father 0:11:05.880 --> 0:11:08.040 of six, like you got you got some of the 0:11:08.080 --> 0:11:12.040 pipeline yet, So James six two twenty five. I checked 0:11:12.080 --> 0:11:14.280 on the u OFI website. I don't know if that's accurate. 0:11:14.400 --> 0:11:18.440 Junior linebacker had a twelve tackle game against Rutgers last 0:11:18.480 --> 0:11:20.320 year in common young guys, so you could tell us 0:11:20.320 --> 0:11:23.040 about that guy. And then Josh. 0:11:22.559 --> 0:11:24.319 Man, I watched it before that game and I was 0:11:24.360 --> 0:11:27.560 like James, you better buckle up this guy. 0:11:28.320 --> 0:11:30.720 I mean, you never seen one guy tackling my long 0:11:30.760 --> 0:11:31.160 guy man. 0:11:31.200 --> 0:11:34.200 I mean he was tough on film in college, so yes, 0:11:34.520 --> 0:11:36.920 I have watched him play and he is tough. 0:11:36.960 --> 0:11:38.200 He's a tough football player. 0:11:38.240 --> 0:11:41.160 Heck of a pass pro guy. And then Josh six 0:11:41.720 --> 0:11:45.120 ninety is that about right, playing the center position, team captain, 0:11:45.679 --> 0:11:47.640 senior season two time All Big ten. 0:11:48.160 --> 0:11:48.360 Uh. 0:11:48.360 --> 0:11:51.079 And then daughter Grace freshman at Miami Ohio, one of 0:11:51.200 --> 0:11:52.920 four daughters. So you can fill us in on the 0:11:52.960 --> 0:11:53.400 other ones. 0:11:53.400 --> 0:11:55.880 But uh, yeah, pray for me. 0:11:57.720 --> 0:11:59.360 I had two in it about killed me. 0:12:00.200 --> 0:12:02.160 I don't care what religion you are. Just pray for me. 0:12:02.280 --> 0:12:05.360 And they don't have religion, then do your breathing breed 0:12:05.400 --> 0:12:07.520 for me. Just do something for me because I suffer. 0:12:07.840 --> 0:12:11.520 So they so what are there? They love the game. 0:12:12.200 --> 0:12:14.080 NFL is in their cards. 0:12:15.960 --> 0:12:16.920 We'll see, We'll see. 0:12:16.920 --> 0:12:19.000 They have to improve, right, they have to keep getting better. 0:12:19.000 --> 0:12:21.120 They have to keep working on their game. And you 0:12:21.160 --> 0:12:23.560 guys know what it takes to play in the NFL, 0:12:23.600 --> 0:12:26.000 and you know how few guys do it. And you know, 0:12:26.120 --> 0:12:29.760 like the transferring your college game to the NFL game 0:12:30.040 --> 0:12:32.760 and making the corrections and adjustments and working and getting 0:12:32.760 --> 0:12:35.160 to where you got to be. I would say they 0:12:35.200 --> 0:12:37.880 have a chance. I don't think either of them are guaranteed, 0:12:38.160 --> 0:12:38.839 and they still have a. 0:12:38.760 --> 0:12:39.440 Lot of work to do. 0:12:39.840 --> 0:12:43.560 Hey, Olan, does the NIL complicate the process for these kids? 0:12:43.720 --> 0:12:47.040 Are they always thinking of what could possibly be out there? 0:12:47.280 --> 0:12:49.400 Or are they trying to be Are they being enticed 0:12:49.440 --> 0:12:52.840 by somebody else? Or is that they're settled in at 0:12:52.880 --> 0:12:55.120 Illinois They're ready to roll until they get done. 0:12:55.920 --> 0:12:58.920 Of course it does. It does for everybody. Right, The 0:12:58.960 --> 0:13:02.920 money is out there. It's it's extraordinary how much money 0:13:03.040 --> 0:13:08.040 is out there. Josh is you know, he's a cruise. 0:13:08.040 --> 0:13:09.679 He wants to be where he is, right, He never 0:13:09.720 --> 0:13:11.760 even thought about it. He's gonna play for his team. 0:13:11.760 --> 0:13:14.360 He's standing in Illinois. You know, he went to play 0:13:14.440 --> 0:13:17.760 high school football Loyola. He's all in there, so and 0:13:17.840 --> 0:13:20.440 so is James, and they just believe in that. But 0:13:20.480 --> 0:13:22.960 as far as his NIL goes, Man, it's crazy out there. 0:13:22.960 --> 0:13:24.880 I don't know what parameters are going to put around it. 0:13:25.040 --> 0:13:27.120 The game is still great, right, The game is still great. 0:13:27.240 --> 0:13:29.920 Just tells you how much money the people involved in 0:13:30.000 --> 0:13:33.240 college football are making and have been making and a 0:13:33.240 --> 0:13:35.920 lot of times these guys who are yelling about it's 0:13:35.920 --> 0:13:37.680 broken and are once who broke it, right, he's saying 0:13:37.720 --> 0:13:39.719 it too long. He's in a system too long that 0:13:39.880 --> 0:13:42.240 just you knew it wasn't gonna work. There was you know, 0:13:42.320 --> 0:13:45.000 once you start making what is the NFL, man got 0:13:45.000 --> 0:13:47.880 a fifteen billion. The college is making something close. Man, 0:13:47.880 --> 0:13:49.880 there's just a lot of money out there. They got 0:13:49.880 --> 0:13:52.640 to find a way to put parameters around it and 0:13:52.720 --> 0:13:55.600 make it fair for everybody. But also stop acting like 0:13:55.640 --> 0:13:57.439 you don't have to pay the players and the coaches 0:13:57.480 --> 0:13:59.560 just gonna get paid. And now they're in a system 0:13:59.600 --> 0:14:02.160 that's a while wild west, And really the coaches who 0:14:02.200 --> 0:14:05.160 were in there the longest, the coaches who are watching it, administrators, 0:14:05.160 --> 0:14:07.400 the NCAA, they're really the ones who broke it. It's 0:14:07.440 --> 0:14:09.280 not the kid's fault, right, the kids just going through 0:14:09.280 --> 0:14:11.920 the process of the rules and everything that's going on there. 0:14:11.960 --> 0:14:14.760 So the same people who broke it now scrambling to 0:14:14.800 --> 0:14:17.000 fix it and say, wow, I mean it's unfair and 0:14:17.000 --> 0:14:18.520 these kids are crazy, they're hard to coach. 0:14:18.559 --> 0:14:19.400 You're making so much. 0:14:19.240 --> 0:14:21.880 Money that was now, that's why, that's why when most 0:14:21.920 --> 0:14:24.160 of these coaches are driving to their ten million dollars 0:14:24.200 --> 0:14:26.800 home in Florida. They're worried about the system that's broken 0:14:27.120 --> 0:14:27.920 his dominoes. 0:14:28.200 --> 0:14:32.160 I mean the transfer portal. I'm sure the cret was 0:14:32.240 --> 0:14:34.880 dangled to both your sons. I mean, you don't have 0:14:34.920 --> 0:14:35.400 to say. 0:14:35.240 --> 0:14:37.880 It's all the ways there, right, it's always there out there, 0:14:37.880 --> 0:14:38.600 and you always know. 0:14:38.640 --> 0:14:42.200 It's an option now. And that's that's it's it's. 0:14:42.080 --> 0:14:43.800 Hard even as a parent, right because you want to 0:14:43.800 --> 0:14:47.280 teach stick it out, work through it, get better, stick 0:14:47.280 --> 0:14:50.240 where you are, stop complaining about things and all these stuff. 0:14:50.240 --> 0:14:52.320 But you know, I'll tell you a little story about 0:14:52.640 --> 0:14:56.760 even Joshua's now going to his third year starting. You know, 0:14:56.800 --> 0:14:59.400 they were bringing in some portal guys, some portal centers, 0:14:59.440 --> 0:15:02.520 and we talked about it and I called coaches around, 0:15:02.600 --> 0:15:04.840 and you know, josh ended up staying there. And I 0:15:04.880 --> 0:15:06.240 just told them, I said, well, if you're going to say, 0:15:06.240 --> 0:15:07.880 then you got to go there and beat these guys out. 0:15:07.920 --> 0:15:11.160 But you know, I called coaches that I was highly 0:15:11.200 --> 0:15:13.640 respect the guys and I said, look, I tell my son, 0:15:13.680 --> 0:15:15.920 you should stay, you should work, you should compete. 0:15:15.960 --> 0:15:18.000 And they said it's not like that anymore. 0:15:18.000 --> 0:15:20.160 Older it's not you got to watch because if they 0:15:20.160 --> 0:15:21.640 bring a guy in to pay them, they got to 0:15:21.640 --> 0:15:22.120 play them. 0:15:22.600 --> 0:15:24.800 So it's just there's a lot. There's a lot going on. 0:15:25.280 --> 0:15:27.480 There's about this other side of story that a lot 0:15:27.480 --> 0:15:29.600 of Duodle don't hear. A lot of times you hear 0:15:29.680 --> 0:15:32.040 like the school side, the coaches side hard is to recruit. 0:15:32.200 --> 0:15:34.280 There's also the player's side too, that they're going through 0:15:34.320 --> 0:15:37.160 the same process of dealing with something that's brand new 0:15:37.160 --> 0:15:38.040 for everybody that. 0:15:38.240 --> 0:15:41.840 Either of you ever would have imagined in your wildest dreams, 0:15:41.880 --> 0:15:46.240 with life progressing as rapidly as it does on an 0:15:46.240 --> 0:15:50.440 annual basis, that there would be actual general managers going 0:15:50.480 --> 0:15:53.760 out and scouting and getting players for colleges like like 0:15:53.840 --> 0:15:56.080 this is blown up and that's big money. I mean, 0:15:56.400 --> 0:15:59.080 both of you guys could get the call, Hey help 0:15:59.160 --> 0:16:01.360 us out. I mean you could have never imagined. 0:16:01.360 --> 0:16:04.640 I could never imagine it because I'm so far behind 0:16:04.840 --> 0:16:07.720 with being drafted in eighty three that it was never 0:16:07.760 --> 0:16:08.520 even a process. 0:16:08.560 --> 0:16:09.000 You consider. 0:16:09.080 --> 0:16:11.480 You just wanted to stay eligible, graduate and get into 0:16:11.480 --> 0:16:14.840 the NFL. Those words, we'll get into the NFL graduate, 0:16:15.320 --> 0:16:16.800 and that was my goals. 0:16:16.840 --> 0:16:22.040 Anyways, you could I mean if you were watching, you know, 0:16:22.120 --> 0:16:24.800 if you watched it played in it, you kind of. 0:16:24.720 --> 0:16:27.160 Felt something coming after a while when culture were getting 0:16:27.160 --> 0:16:29.520 a hundred minute dollar contracts and what was it? 0:16:29.520 --> 0:16:31.400 You wasn't the guy who went to USC yet. I 0:16:31.400 --> 0:16:35.520 mean he got like a house, his private jets. 0:16:35.320 --> 0:16:37.600 From the school Lincoln Riley, Like. 0:16:37.640 --> 0:16:38.960 Yeah, that's Lincoln Ryland. 0:16:39.080 --> 0:16:42.640 It's kind of like, okay, Like eventually with all this happening, guys, 0:16:43.280 --> 0:16:44.760 what are you going to do for the players? Right 0:16:44.800 --> 0:16:46.200 What are you gonna do for the guys that are 0:16:46.200 --> 0:16:49.120 actually playing out there in the stadiums getting the TV contracts? 0:16:49.720 --> 0:16:52.080 It just was interesting and it's interesting. 0:16:51.720 --> 0:16:54.320 To watch right now how they're going to do all 0:16:54.400 --> 0:16:56.560