1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:04,920 Speaker 1: Oh man, So, I have this ongoing thing with case adillas. 2 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:08,720 Speaker 1: And I was talking to our friend, uh, Miles Gray 3 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:11,479 Speaker 1: a while back, and I didn't know this, but he 4 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:17,279 Speaker 1: loves tuna salad sandwiches from Subway and recently I think, 5 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:20,120 Speaker 1: thank you, Matt, I'm with you on that one. Sound 6 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:25,439 Speaker 1: internally not my thing continued, So and uh, I was 7 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 1: surprised to you guys, and so Miles, Miles told me 8 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 1: the news that apparently there was some ruling that the 9 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:37,159 Speaker 1: act the tuna content, actual tuna content of these subway 10 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 1: sandwiches was not tuna. No, was it like a food 11 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 1: product unclear? Maybe like a white fish thing like like 12 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:49,560 Speaker 1: what's in imitation crab or something like that. Well, isn't 13 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 1: it like what they call American cheese slices of food 14 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:56,319 Speaker 1: product or cheese product, cheese food product? There you go. 15 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 1: In this case, it is probably just the cheaper fish 16 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:04,559 Speaker 1: if it's true. But uh, sorry, I didn't. I didn't 17 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 1: mean to jokingly spit take their No, that was a 18 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:12,040 Speaker 1: legitimate reaction. But there, yes, But there there are a 19 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:14,480 Speaker 1: lot of weird things that you're probably eating right now 20 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:16,960 Speaker 1: as you're listening to this. I would say that you 21 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 1: didn't hear me say that? Yes, ask yourself. Ask yourself 22 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 1: in today's classic episode, what are you actually eating? From 23 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:30,559 Speaker 1: UFOs two Ghosts and government cover ups? History is riddled 24 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 1: with unexplained events. You can turn back now or learn 25 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 1: the stuff they don't want you to now. Hello, Hello everybody. 26 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 1: Before we start, Matt and I are gonna do a 27 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 1: little banter. What what did you have for lunch today? 28 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 1: If I could ask for lunch? I had a chicken 29 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 1: salad sandwich, some sunships, yeah it does the sun half bad. Oh, 30 00:01:56,720 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 1: and some unsweetened tea. Yeah, iced tea. Oh you said 31 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 1: iced tea for a second if they said heist tea 32 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 1: heist And I'm picturing bank robbers, you know, pausing for 33 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 1: a second, plugging the kettle in or just mixing the ice. 34 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 1: I had a filly cheese steak because I make bad 35 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 1: life decisions. Did you have fries with that? Sir? I 36 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 1: did have fries with that? I did, and uh, yeah, 37 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 1: we have a little cafe downstairs, and uh the wonderful 38 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 1: lady who works there and asked me if I wanted 39 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 1: to have no salt on the fries, and I said, yeah, 40 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 1: a lot, no more, no seriously drown them in salt. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 41 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 1: and uh so much so funny story that um. Part 42 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 1: way through, she stopped and she put the salt away, 43 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 1: and she pointed her finger at me, and she said, 44 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 1: you know it's not good for you. Yeah, she said, 45 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 1: don't do it all the time. I said, all right, 46 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 1: all right, next time I come down or buy lunch, 47 00:02:57,440 --> 00:03:01,080 Speaker 1: I'll buy a salad. And she said, before you get sick. Yeah. 48 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 1: It freaked me out. Just appreciate the concerned my lunch, 49 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:10,639 Speaker 1: my salt holiday here salt today. But it made me. 50 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 1: It made me think about the video series that we've 51 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 1: been doing this week, which is all about food additive. 52 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 1: So we've got some we were doing some a little weird. 53 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:26,799 Speaker 1: We have two classic episodes this week because we've got 54 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 1: some vacations in our future. Well, I've got a vacation 55 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 1: of my future. I'm sorry, Ben. Ben doesn't get to 56 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 1: leave everybody, uh and I usually don't either, but I 57 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 1: finally finally am escaping. Right, Yeah, we should. We'll we'll 58 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 1: talk about that a little bit after. I don't want 59 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 1: to sour the experience. We'll talk about okay, return but 60 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 1: but yes, food the foodie is crazy process. Food is crazy. 61 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 1: This season needs salt. I feel like I got a 62 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 1: weird you know, uh, prophecy or she read my fortune 63 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 1: or something. Yeah, she knew, and she knew you're gonna 64 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 1: be doing this too. So a lot of times you'll 65 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 1: be looking at your food labels. We all do this, 66 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 1: uh well, not as much as we should, but we 67 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 1: do do it every once in a while, and you'll 68 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:16,039 Speaker 1: just you'll see that there are more chemicals, more words 69 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:18,359 Speaker 1: with names on them that you just have no idea 70 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 1: what the heck it is. Unless you're a chemistry major 71 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 1: or work in a lab somewhere, you probably don't even 72 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 1: know what these different compounds are. Right, Yeah, sodium benz 73 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:35,720 Speaker 1: a weight huh mono sodium glutamate. Right, sounds delicious and 74 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 1: that stuff really is, though I know it's exactly what. 75 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 1: It is, Just delicious in a powder. Write some long 76 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:46,040 Speaker 1: name that sounds a little bit more like somebody randomly 77 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 1: playing on the alphabet than it does like an actual word. 78 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 1: Much less food and a lot of us As you said, 79 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 1: don't seek these ingredients out. One thing that is so 80 00:04:57,080 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 1: strange about the modern world is that we have easier 81 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 1: access to food now than at any point. And now 82 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:09,600 Speaker 1: I know a lot of people are gonna say, but wait, guys, 83 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 1: clearly starvation and famine are huge problem. That is, that 84 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 1: is true. But overall, if you look at the human 85 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:20,600 Speaker 1: population as a whole, the way it works out is 86 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:29,040 Speaker 1: just a strange and in some places obscenely counterintuitive availability 87 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 1: of food. Yeah, it's a strange I don't know. I 88 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 1: feel like Hunger Games got it right with their allegory there. Um, 89 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:39,279 Speaker 1: just with the capital that has so much food that 90 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 1: they're throwing up so that they can eat more and 91 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 1: than other places. Is there. It's nothing, um, But you're right. 92 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 1: Over overall, if you take a wine, enough of you, yeah, 93 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 1: it's good. Sorry, I'm just thinking about that now, about 94 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:53,840 Speaker 1: how many people don't have any food. And then I'm 95 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:57,039 Speaker 1: sitting here thinking about the additives and complaining about them, 96 00:05:57,320 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 1: and weirdly, you know, of course, this is a sidebar 97 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 1: wish at the one here, Matt. Obesity is a huge 98 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 1: threat in developing countries, And you can be starving while 99 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:13,039 Speaker 1: appearing obese, because you can still be deprived of the 100 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 1: actual vitamins, minerals and other substances that you need to 101 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:20,479 Speaker 1: have a working body. Oh and before we go any further. 102 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:23,600 Speaker 1: This all has turned into some long segue because we're 103 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 1: just we're just talking, right. I think that's I like 104 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:28,279 Speaker 1: that though. Yeah, it feels more natural. Um. My name 105 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 1: is Ben. Everybody's sorry about that. And my name is Matt. 106 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 1: And we also have Nolan the house. Uh. He's got 107 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 1: his arms up. He's elated to be recording and editing 108 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 1: at the same time. He's thinking about all the wonderful 109 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:44,799 Speaker 1: music shows he'll be playing later on in the week. 110 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 1: Fantastic musician. He's the DJ Baboo to our evidence and 111 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 1: r A Science, the Spinderella to our salt and pepper. 112 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 1: Oh man, Yeah, that's a dated references. Really nice. Uh So, 113 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:02,839 Speaker 1: but anyway, that's us. And as we were talking about, um, 114 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:07,600 Speaker 1: we need to outline something very important here. We are 115 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 1: all from the United States. Uh. We have a lot 116 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 1: of listeners who are not from the United States, and 117 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 1: thank you for listening. We just want you to know 118 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 1: that we were well aware of the stereotype about US 119 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 1: nutrition in general. The portions here are huge. You can 120 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 1: buy things that have been on a shelf for a 121 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 1: year and contain what is legally called you know, like 122 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 1: milk and meat and other perishable items. Uh, you can 123 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 1: do that because there are so many preservatives and other 124 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 1: additives in food. So that's what we mean when we 125 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 1: say processed food. It contains these additives. Um. These give 126 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 1: food a longer shelf life. But they're also there to 127 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 1: preserve flavor, color, even even texture, you know. And well, okay, 128 00:07:56,960 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 1: so if we go back a little bit in history, 129 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 1: man's been using preservatives for a long time, were at 130 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 1: least means to preserve food. So we've got all kinds 131 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 1: of salts, vinegars, herbs, you could boil things. Then refrigeration 132 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 1: came along because that'll keep it for a little bit longer. Um. 133 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 1: But in the past fifty years, we man the preservatives 134 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 1: that we've been creating, the chemical preservatives, they are just 135 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 1: they're astounding. First of all, it's amazing that we can 136 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 1: do these things and they're extremely common, extremely common. Yeah, 137 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 1: like you've you have you ever held a can of soup, 138 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:39,840 Speaker 1: you know, something again with darrier meat in it. You know, 139 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 1: this can of clam chowder or something, and it's uh 140 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:47,200 Speaker 1: old enough that if it was a kid, it could 141 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 1: be walking around, you know, but it's still good. You 142 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 1: might have a best by this date. But you can 143 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:58,720 Speaker 1: still eat it apparently. Um So, yeah, that's that's a 144 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 1: great point. The most popular of the chemical or man 145 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:08,359 Speaker 1: made additives in the food industry today are stuff like benzoites, nitrites, uh, sulfites, 146 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 1: and sword bates uh so, sodium nitrite uh nitrate rather 147 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 1: big thing in bacon. You eat bacon and you want 148 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 1: to avoid that, then you have to make sure you 149 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:26,080 Speaker 1: read the labels with great care. Um. Sometimes you don't, 150 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:29,319 Speaker 1: because it's the vast majority of bacon soul in the 151 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:33,599 Speaker 1: United States has this added. Right. Uh So these additives 152 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:37,839 Speaker 1: do server purpose, like they stop mold and they stop yeast. Um. 153 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 1: Sometimes they're just cosmetic, like sulfur dioxide. Right, it's uh 154 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 1: what is it. It's a it's one of the most 155 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 1: common additives, and it's just a bleaching agent. It just 156 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 1: makes your stuff look nicer so someone will pick it 157 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 1: up off the shelf. Okay, oh yeah, that's so much 158 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 1: cosmic addic stuff that the American cheese must be yellow, 159 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 1: the yellow coloring on cheddar. Now I'm just naming yellow things. 160 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:12,320 Speaker 1: But there there's so many additives used today, so many 161 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:15,959 Speaker 1: in fact, that in this podcast we cannot list them all, 162 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 1: but we will talk about a few because we are 163 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 1: part way through our video series on food additives, where 164 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 1: we covered uh, let's see, we covered bromonade vegetable oil. 165 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:36,439 Speaker 1: We covered aspertain Yep, that's the artificial sweetener. I think 166 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:40,080 Speaker 1: these are the only two that we end up covering. Yeah, 167 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:43,440 Speaker 1: you're right. We we have a list of these, but 168 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 1: we specifically focused on aspartame and brominade vegetable oil because 169 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 1: we found uh, some allegations, some conspiratorial ideas, specifically that 170 00:10:54,720 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 1: there might be cover ups between the FDA and lobbying organizations. Yes, 171 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:05,440 Speaker 1: and and there's incentive, monetary incentive to put these additives 172 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 1: out there when perhaps the jury is not out on 173 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:11,320 Speaker 1: whether they're safe for us or not. Right, and we're 174 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:13,559 Speaker 1: not We're not saying, of course, that the f d 175 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 1: A is a bunch of evil, conniving uh supervillains who 176 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:22,679 Speaker 1: want other folks to die. Fact, they're also not immune 177 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 1: to bribery. Touche, old friend, you are correct. We we 178 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 1: shall also point out it is not uncommon for a 179 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 1: food additive that was originally believed to be safe to 180 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 1: later be found toxic because of the testing processes and 181 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:41,680 Speaker 1: the ways in which we the ways in which we 182 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 1: have learned to test these sorts of things. Now, there's 183 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 1: some studies that we looked at over these videos that 184 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 1: showed certain food additives as sources of headaches and nausea 185 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 1: and everything from weakness to even difficulty breathing. Um, I 186 00:11:57,080 --> 00:11:59,080 Speaker 1: don't I don't have the name of that study or 187 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 1: those studies that we've interned right here. We'll have to 188 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 1: maybe make a blog or I don't know, do something 189 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 1: to really give people more information here. Sure, yeah, there 190 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 1: are certain foods that can damage new human nerve cells 191 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:18,960 Speaker 1: when they're combined with other additives. Uh. The truth is 192 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 1: that we really don't understand all the long term effects 193 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 1: that additives could have on our health because in the 194 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 1: grand scheme of things, these are relatively new inventions and 195 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:36,320 Speaker 1: we can test these things to the best of our means. 196 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 1: But there is a reason that not all additives are 197 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 1: uniformly banned in all countries. There's a lot of stuff 198 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 1: in the United States that you could never serve in 199 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 1: product in the EU or in Japan, for instance, because 200 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 1: what do you need to prove that something is safe? 201 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 1: You need time and trials, enough trials, and when a 202 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:01,719 Speaker 1: new food had food additive comes around, maybe it's been 203 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 1: in testing for a while, but you know, it took 204 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 1: a long time for us to understand that the tar 205 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 1: from smoking cigarettes was terribly bad for you, right, And 206 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 1: later we found out, at least in that case, that 207 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 1: some tobacco companies were actively fighting against that being uh 208 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:28,679 Speaker 1: made made public. Now, obviously we have to we have 209 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:32,080 Speaker 1: to be very careful and I think, very proactive with 210 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 1: the science of these sorts of things, because some of 211 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 1: these effects can be cumulative, meaning you won't notice them, 212 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 1: you know, to your point about time until decades down 213 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:45,960 Speaker 1: the road. So additives aren't banned until enough research is 214 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 1: collected to determine the exact effects they have on the body. 215 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:53,200 Speaker 1: And and don't forget there could be cumulative effects just 216 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 1: from all the different additives or something, you know, something 217 00:13:56,920 --> 00:13:59,840 Speaker 1: else completely different, because our diets now are so fill 218 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:02,560 Speaker 1: with these and how are you going to separate one 219 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 1: from the other unless you have such strict clinical trials, right, 220 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 1: But we do know, uh, we do know some dangerous additives, right, 221 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 1: And we've made a little bit of a rogues gallery 222 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 1: here of some top fives that are not mentioned in 223 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 1: our video series. So uh, for those intrepid audio podcasts 224 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 1: listeners do feel free to tell the people who will 225 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 1: only watch the videos that that you know more about 226 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 1: this than they do. Oh yeah, you totally do. I'm 227 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 1: so I'm sorry, I'm so setting up a flame war. 228 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no, dude, let's let's do it. You guys 229 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 1: got a battle in the streets, the audio versus a video, 230 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 1: and then maybe if the battle is you know, long 231 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 1: and and difficult enough, they will become one. Wow, man, 232 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 1: I love it. I love What what a weird mind 233 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 1: you have? So it's like warriors come out and play. Yeah, 234 00:14:57,320 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 1: it's like warriors. But then in the end they realized 235 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 1: that you guys are differences. Aren't that different? Maybe we 236 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 1: should band together. I have not seen the end of 237 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 1: That's not I don't think that's okay. Alright, so wait, 238 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 1: what's what's uh number five on our list here? Okay? 239 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 1: So number five is something that if you have kids, 240 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 1: you already know about. This food dies and this is 241 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 1: this is a big one. So um, the f d 242 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 1: A has they've they've met to decide whether or not 243 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 1: certain food dies should even be allowed in food, or 244 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 1: whether or not they should be you know, carrying a 245 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 1: warning label, Hey, this product has food dies in it 246 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:39,479 Speaker 1: with be certain food dies right, yes. Like Michael Jacobson, 247 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 1: the director of the Center for Science and the Public Interest, 248 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 1: He stated that he was most concerned about the dies 249 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 1: red number forty, yellow number five, and yellow number six, 250 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 1: and those combined make up about the food dies on 251 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 1: the market, their allegations that these cause child hyperactivity, and 252 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 1: even a d a d uh. For the record, I'm 253 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 1: not completely convinced on those um And you know, we've 254 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 1: been using food dies for years, but the use has 255 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 1: really accelerated, as in like what quintupled quintupled. Well, yeah, 256 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 1: if if you were in school in the nineties, you 257 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 1: probably heard the rumors about yellow number five and mountain 258 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 1: dew And do you do you not know this? I 259 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 1: have not heard this. Oh wow, maybe I'm one of 260 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 1: the only ones. Okay, not feel horrible. I didn't get 261 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 1: outside very often. Well, I didn't have very many friends, 262 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 1: that's fine. The idea was that yellow number five would 263 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 1: affect your genitals if you were a male in certain ways. 264 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 1: Oh okay, yeah, wow. Anyway, it was a huge rumor 265 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 1: back in the time. But I remember thinking that rumor 266 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 1: caused me to think about some of these chemicals way 267 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:59,280 Speaker 1: back in the day in middle school. But anyway, uh So, 268 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 1: number four lead, which might surprise people because you know, 269 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 1: lead food two things you wouldn't think about going together. Well, 270 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:10,399 Speaker 1: and it's also kind of a strange culprit when you 271 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 1: think about where this lead is found. It's in juice drinks. So, 272 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 1: according to the study in Natural News, beverages marketed to 273 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:25,360 Speaker 1: these two kids contain levels of lead. Varying levels of lead, 274 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 1: some of them can be dangerous. The levels were high 275 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:33,119 Speaker 1: enough to gain a warning under California's Safe Drinking Water 276 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 1: and Toxic Enforcement Act of So it's Prop sixty pro 277 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 1: Prop sixty five. And that's a little scary when you 278 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 1: think about lead, because, as we talked about before, lead 279 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 1: is dangerous inside the human body. Yeah, because it's lead. 280 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 1: It's so weird, you know. Okay, And then we've got 281 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 1: number three on our list, which is something you schooled 282 00:17:57,040 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 1: me about a number of years ago, Matt, and that 283 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:04,199 Speaker 1: is VP eight. Yes, there are certain synthetic hormones that 284 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:06,440 Speaker 1: are in our diet and can be found in things. 285 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:09,360 Speaker 1: This one v p A u bi sephanol A can 286 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:12,439 Speaker 1: be found in canned foods. There was a new study 287 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 1: that's showing that organic or not of your canned foods 288 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 1: that you're consuming contain this uh, this hormone. And there 289 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:25,400 Speaker 1: are a couple of studies that you can go online. 290 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:28,720 Speaker 1: Just just put b P a canned food into a 291 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 1: search bar and look at it. But not while you're eating. 292 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:37,120 Speaker 1: For me, don't. Well, that might make for an interesting 293 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:40,360 Speaker 1: reaction video if you want to post those on YouTube. Oh, 294 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:42,919 Speaker 1: that's not a bad idea at all. Um, all right, 295 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:46,879 Speaker 1: so I'd love it if people were posting more reaction videos. 296 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 1: That'd be interesting. Um, alright, So Thallate's right. Thallilates Uh. 297 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 1: These are another synthetic hormone often founding canned foods. This 298 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 1: chemicals associated with decrient disruption animals and in some human 299 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 1: studies they've confirmed this, but they've been shown to cause 300 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 1: reproductive and neurological damage in lab animal test. Uh. You 301 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 1: can also, in addition to canned foods, find these in 302 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:19,640 Speaker 1: some personal care products, which leads us all to number one, 303 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:24,679 Speaker 1: probably one of my favorite food additives, the most delicious 304 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:30,640 Speaker 1: thing that exists msg oh man Okay. Linked to hormonal imbalances, 305 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 1: weight game, brain damage, obesity, headaches, and it is just 306 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 1: it's dude, and well it's yeah, that's what it does. 307 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:40,480 Speaker 1: It just makes things taste better. And it's back in 308 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:42,960 Speaker 1: style too. There are a couple of there are a 309 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:45,440 Speaker 1: lot of very popular restaurants you can go to now 310 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 1: that specifically say, yeah, we make it with MSG because 311 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:54,200 Speaker 1: it's this beautifully horrible thing that makes everything taste delicious. Yeah, 312 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 1: no kidding. I'm gonna have to take it one day 313 00:19:56,880 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 1: at a time. Man, This post MSG lifestyle I'm living. 314 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:03,360 Speaker 1: It's crazy. And you know, maybe I don't care enough 315 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:06,680 Speaker 1: that it's harmful. Maybe I just need some more MSG man, 316 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:09,879 Speaker 1: sprinkling on everything, put in my coffee. It's like I 317 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 1: used to taste in color and now I taste in grays. Uh, 318 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 1: it's not that bad. I'm I'm joking, guys. Uh. So 319 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:24,200 Speaker 1: that is our gallery of five food additives. They're controversial, 320 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:28,359 Speaker 1: but that we didn't mention in our video series yet. Uh. 321 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 1: Weirdly enough, Matt, we had a sponsor for this one, 322 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:35,679 Speaker 1: but they they pulled out the last minute. Yeah. I 323 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 1: guess legally we can't even tell you which food company 324 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 1: pulled out, but you know, just just wonder mayor it 325 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:52,200 Speaker 1: may or may not be the people who make dehydrated 326 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 1: space ice cream. Well maybe I mean no, I mean 327 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:58,959 Speaker 1: those wonderful people that maybe we'll work with in the future. 328 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:01,120 Speaker 1: I'm having so much fund say may or may not 329 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:04,679 Speaker 1: be it may or may not be the makers of 330 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:09,280 Speaker 1: pavement sauce, which is both a condiment and pavement alternative 331 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:16,200 Speaker 1: delicious payment sauce. Alright, well, speaking of payment sauce, man, 332 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:20,480 Speaker 1: here's where it gets crazy. Yes, yes, yes, let's talk 333 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 1: about the more conspiratorial things in the side of this. 334 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:29,639 Speaker 1: Oh codex alimentary right, alimentarius, thank you? That is the 335 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:35,360 Speaker 1: that is a tremendously controversial move by the United Nations 336 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:40,640 Speaker 1: to standardize food across the globe. Yeah, for safety, Ben, 337 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:44,359 Speaker 1: that's why. That's why you would do that. For safety. 338 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:46,440 Speaker 1: So school me on this one. Matt. You know more 339 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:49,960 Speaker 1: than I do about this. Well, I actually don't, but 340 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:51,679 Speaker 1: I'll tell you a couple of things that I do know. 341 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:54,399 Speaker 1: I know that it was a great episode and you 342 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 1: should watch it. Yeah, we have an episode about this, 343 00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:00,360 Speaker 1: uh in our gosh, this is an older episod. Yeah, 344 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 1: it's just been a while. Uh, I should really prepare 345 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:07,120 Speaker 1: for these things better been. Well, we'll do what we'll 346 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 1: do instead is maybe we'll do a podcast on that 347 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:12,840 Speaker 1: in detail and its entirety in the future if people 348 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 1: are interested, because we uh we covered it in our 349 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:21,160 Speaker 1: video series and that's sort of an introduction to the concept. Yeah, 350 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 1: But all in all, it goes back to the idea 351 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 1: that the u N wants to bring in a new 352 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:29,440 Speaker 1: world order and control everything, and and they're starting with 353 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 1: the food. It's like a slippery slope argument kind of thing, right, Yeah, 354 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 1: and they're also there's the argument that the health requirements 355 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 1: or the standards for this the Okay, the advocates say, look, 356 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:47,160 Speaker 1: we're just trying to make things hygienic, safer, and more uniform, 357 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 1: maybe with more environmental considerations and packaging, because that's a 358 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 1: huge thing to opponents say, yeah, this is a new 359 00:22:55,040 --> 00:23:00,159 Speaker 1: world order grab for control and also mandating, uh, the 360 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 1: insertion of chemicals that will damage people's neurological functions control you. Yeah, 361 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 1: so we'll have to There's so much to that that 362 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 1: it would be fun to explore it in another episode. 363 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 1: Maybe funds not the right word, It would be fascinating. 364 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:17,920 Speaker 1: But it does lead us to our next one, which 365 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:21,359 Speaker 1: is the concept of brain drain. The idea that not 366 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 1: only are food additives put into uh into processed food 367 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 1: with the intention of hurting you, like willfully put in 368 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:34,119 Speaker 1: there instead of just trying to save some money, but 369 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 1: these also have uh calculated neurological effects on the population. 370 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:43,720 Speaker 1: This one, I had to tell you, This one I 371 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:46,639 Speaker 1: don't buy just because it's hard to How would you 372 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 1: regulate the dose? How would you ensure that it had 373 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 1: the actual effect that you're looking for, you know what 374 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 1: I mean. And you're looking at a huge population sample 375 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:01,399 Speaker 1: size to try and treat every one, or if you 376 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 1: wanted to look at it that way, uh, And how 377 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 1: do you prevent anybody that you don't want to eat 378 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 1: it not to eat it? Do you just have an 379 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 1: email list with all the foods you can't eat this 380 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 1: week or this month or this year? Alright, a little 381 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:15,680 Speaker 1: sad face emoji. But you know, at the same time, 382 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 1: I think back to our Florida episode and that that 383 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:25,960 Speaker 1: has always made me question what I believe about some 384 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,960 Speaker 1: of that stuff. Not necessarily that I believe that floride 385 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 1: is calcifying my panel gland, but it's certainly interests me. H. 386 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:39,359 Speaker 1: With the hexel floor solisic solicit Yeah, basically because of 387 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:42,639 Speaker 1: the motivations behind that kind of stuff and the money 388 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 1: which goes to the other. One of the other conspiracy 389 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:51,479 Speaker 1: theories the idea that big business and perhaps corruption with 390 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 1: lobbying in the f d A, as we mentioned earlier, 391 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 1: that these forces are responsible for unsafe additives and food. 392 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 1: This isn't so much a case of some business saying 393 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 1: let's hurt people, as it is a business or a 394 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 1: lobbying group more likely saying, hey, we already spent so 395 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 1: much money researching this chemical. It's a sunk cost for us, 396 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:19,480 Speaker 1: so we don't want to lose billions of dollars trying 397 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 1: to find a new you know, in insert ingredients. How 398 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:25,600 Speaker 1: how can we use it? How can we make this 399 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 1: chemical that was meant for this charlot, Let's transform it, 400 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 1: let's let's rename it. It will be huge. What was 401 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 1: your campaign? Yeah? What was that food additive that gave 402 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 1: people the runs in the healthy potato chips? Yeah? Because 403 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 1: it was better for you than fat. Had a name 404 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:49,479 Speaker 1: o Lean. Yeah. So it just made it just made you, 405 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:53,840 Speaker 1: just made you poop, I mean fat, but wasn't really 406 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 1: poop so much, right, that's the worst part. It was 407 00:25:56,600 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 1: an oily discharge that, which is the phrase that they 408 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:04,920 Speaker 1: use in the official literature. That's not just thus messing around. 409 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:10,080 Speaker 1: And it makes me think of the hierbo hierbow sugar 410 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 1: free or sugar less gummy bears? Have you heard about, 411 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:16,480 Speaker 1: Oh what happened? Did those also have similar facts? Apparently 412 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:19,680 Speaker 1: tons of videos online about that. You have to watch 413 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 1: out for that sort of stuff, which is ultimately the 414 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 1: moral of the story here. There's another one that another 415 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:28,120 Speaker 1: conspiracy theory, and I don't think it's fair to call 416 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 1: these a theory. And while we're here, shout out to 417 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 1: one of our listeners or audience members who said, uh, 418 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:39,920 Speaker 1: you guys say the word theory when you mean hypotheses. 419 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:42,400 Speaker 1: I get it, I understand it. But what we say 420 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 1: is conspiracy theory because that's the phrase that most people understand. 421 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 1: We're not here to exclude anybody, so with all due respect, 422 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:53,680 Speaker 1: we we do understand that. But it's sort of like 423 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 1: you park in a driveway. We already have the word driveway, 424 00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:59,920 Speaker 1: so we're using it to reach the most people. Man, 425 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:04,719 Speaker 1: I I remember that argument from high school and science class, 426 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:10,440 Speaker 1: which is the hypothesis as accurate to say, yeah, yeah, 427 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:12,720 Speaker 1: we get it. Um. But this leads us to again 428 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:19,440 Speaker 1: the most dangerous, uh conspiratorial idea here, which is corner cutting. 429 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:23,440 Speaker 1: So you know, we've all heard the stories about dog 430 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:26,720 Speaker 1: food from China that contains dangerous thing and it's making 431 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 1: animals sick, right. Uh. The The idea that somebody would 432 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:37,639 Speaker 1: cut a processed food, uh, not to preserve its shelf 433 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:42,159 Speaker 1: life necessarily, but just to make the actual food go 434 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 1: further is more common than you might think. Yeah, and 435 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:53,879 Speaker 1: it kind of reminds me of cutting a drugs No, 436 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:56,280 Speaker 1: I see what you're saying, Just trying to make as 437 00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 1: much profit as you can off of the supply you 438 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 1: currently have. Yeah. Um. And this is not something that 439 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:07,200 Speaker 1: is just restricted to uh one part of the world 440 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 1: by any means. I know. I think that China often 441 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:13,439 Speaker 1: gets a really bad rap for that, which maybe in 442 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 1: some cases is exaggerated propaganda. But you know, it's not 443 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 1: like there's a country with the perfect manufacturing process. Uh. 444 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:24,600 Speaker 1: One thing I should point out then, is that there 445 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:28,119 Speaker 1: were a couple of studies done in the UK that 446 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:32,359 Speaker 1: found I can't remember the specific brand, but there was 447 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:36,439 Speaker 1: there was like this meat pie brand, uh, and I 448 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 1: think it may have been like their own brand that 449 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 1: was found to contain actually no meat. That's very familiar there. 450 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 1: There's things like that that happen all the time, just 451 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:50,720 Speaker 1: not what you're expecting because in the factory process, one 452 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 1: little switch didn't get turned or something right messed up 453 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 1: for you know. That's why there's so many food were 454 00:28:55,760 --> 00:29:00,480 Speaker 1: recalls happened constantly in the publics and the oger where 455 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 1: I go to locally, there's constantly food recalls up. And 456 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:08,480 Speaker 1: it's always packaged food always and yeah, and some of 457 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 1: the strangest packaged food to also comes from your local 458 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 1: fast food outlet, which may pure package just because it's hot, 459 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 1: but make no mistake it it is. It arrives packaged 460 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 1: and it is uh processed severely. You know. Sometimes uh 461 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:26,880 Speaker 1: fast food restaurants will do that thing where they say 462 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 1: now with blank percent more blah blah blah blah blah. 463 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:32,640 Speaker 1: The scary thing is that when you know, when you're 464 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:36,480 Speaker 1: an average person, you read that and you say, oh, okay, 465 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,800 Speaker 1: the hamburger or the hot dog or whatever is now 466 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 1: percent bigger, bigger. That means they added fifteen or fifty 467 00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:48,240 Speaker 1: percent more meat to the mix that they used to 468 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:52,320 Speaker 1: create the thing or the crazy, Yeah, or they put 469 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 1: more saline solution into their chicken breasts to make them 470 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 1: hi that you can do, no, Matt. Something tells me 471 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 1: that we're gonna get a lot of listener mail about 472 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:04,680 Speaker 1: this four things that we should examine in more detail. 473 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,560 Speaker 1: Oh absolutely, Yeah, I'm looking forward to that because there's 474 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:09,760 Speaker 1: a lot of stuff we touched on. Unfortunately we're out 475 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 1: of time that in a lot of these things could 476 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 1: be their own podcasts. Just the fast food stuff alone, 477 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:18,800 Speaker 1: labeling alone. You know, what is organic mean? What is 478 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 1: a natural flavor? I love that the green movement is 479 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 1: something we can really delve into. Well, but before we 480 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:29,960 Speaker 1: leave been Yeah, what the heck is the is there 481 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,440 Speaker 1: a solution? How how do we get out of this? 482 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 1: Because we Okay, let me just give you what I've 483 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:40,200 Speaker 1: been thinking about. We can't go back to an all 484 00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:44,920 Speaker 1: natural you know, the idea of the all natural movement. 485 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:46,760 Speaker 1: We can't do that because there's no way we could 486 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:51,840 Speaker 1: have enough food for everybody. Um, it's just not possible. 487 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 1: That's why. That's why Norman Borlog was such a hero. 488 00:30:56,840 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 1: He gave food to just lions of people who wouldn't 489 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:02,760 Speaker 1: have been able to eat or in the super wheat 490 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:07,720 Speaker 1: inventor well, and it's a processed food, right, getically modified 491 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:10,680 Speaker 1: that then becomes a processed food, and it almost has 492 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,480 Speaker 1: to I see what you're saying, just from the idea 493 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:17,040 Speaker 1: of transporting the food. What's weird. What's weird about it 494 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,760 Speaker 1: is that there is more than enough food around to 495 00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:23,280 Speaker 1: feed every single person on the planet. Uh. The problems 496 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:26,080 Speaker 1: we have so much food waste, we have so much 497 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 1: inefficiency in transporting it, and uh, you know, in in 498 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 1: a lot of ways, our systems of social hierarchy, uh 499 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:43,480 Speaker 1: make it make feeding everyone a much lower priority than 500 00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 1: you know it would be theoretically. Uh, it's an interesting 501 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:52,320 Speaker 1: question man, whether or not these these food additives are necessary. 502 00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 1: I would say, with the current state of affairs, You're 503 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:59,160 Speaker 1: absolutely right. A lot of people who are eating and 504 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:04,080 Speaker 1: entirely healthy organic diet um in in some ways are 505 00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:07,120 Speaker 1: are privileged, you know. And it's not I'm not saying 506 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:09,720 Speaker 1: it's a bad thing at all. What I'm saying is 507 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:13,880 Speaker 1: it's a thing that is simply not a reality, not 508 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:18,040 Speaker 1: an accessible possibility for a great deal of the human 509 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:22,400 Speaker 1: race or human species, I guess. And Uh, at this point, 510 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 1: there we have found that there are food additives that 511 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:30,200 Speaker 1: do good things for people, right, And we do also 512 00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:33,640 Speaker 1: know that there is a huge argument to be made 513 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:37,440 Speaker 1: from moderation like salt. Salt, if you think about it, 514 00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:40,960 Speaker 1: one of the first things you would add to food historically, Ye, 515 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:46,320 Speaker 1: salt is too bad for you? What gosh, man, those 516 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:51,800 Speaker 1: fries were so good though. Oh, she warned me. Rosie 517 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:54,280 Speaker 1: warned me. Well, you know. On that note, I guess 518 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:56,240 Speaker 1: what we're saying is that we would like to hear 519 00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:58,320 Speaker 1: from you guys, what should we cover in more detail? 520 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:02,600 Speaker 1: Coming up? Should other you're well, you're what you your 521 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:06,560 Speaker 1: fellow listeners know about food additives that aren't that isn't 522 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:08,840 Speaker 1: really out there in the mainstream, And do you have 523 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:12,680 Speaker 1: any topics that we should cover before I die of 524 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:16,720 Speaker 1: assault overdose? 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