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Speaker 1: This is One Bill's Live, presented by called Lida Health.

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Speaker 2: Welcome into a Friday edition of One Bills Live. Maddi

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Speaker 2: Glab holding the floor down here at One Bill's Drive,

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Speaker 2: and I'm joined by none other than Chris Trepasso from

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Speaker 2: CBS Sports. He's an NFL analyst and a draft analyst. Chris,

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Speaker 2: thanks so much for joining the show today as Steve

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Speaker 2: Tasker and Chris Brown make their way to Chicago because

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Speaker 2: the Bills will take on the Bears Saturday afternoon. That's

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Speaker 2: a one o'clock kick our time twelve o'clock if you're

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Speaker 2: looking at Central time, the final preseason game of the

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Speaker 2: year for the Buffalo Bills and the Chicago Bears. I'm

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Speaker 2: just gonna say, thank the Lord. I am ready to

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Speaker 2: be in season. I'm ready to attack Week one. Training

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Speaker 2: camp has been a blast. It's been so fun from

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Speaker 2: Saint John Fisher to coming back here and practicing. But

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Speaker 2: I am ready to see who those final fifty three

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Speaker 2: are on this roster as cuts our Tuesday. They have

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Speaker 2: to be in by four o'clock Eastern time. Chris, how

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Speaker 2: you doing today?

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Speaker 3: I'm doing really good.

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Speaker 4: It's great to be back on the show ahead of

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Speaker 4: a preseason game. And like you mentioned, even though training

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Speaker 4: camp is a lot shorter than it used to be,

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Speaker 4: it feels like we've been saying football is back for

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Speaker 4: like six months now. Like I was excited at the

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Speaker 4: start of training camp getting out to Saint John Fisher

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Speaker 4: University was great. Just seeing the Bills back on the field,

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Speaker 4: watching them on TV has been awesome. But knowing that

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Speaker 4: a lot of those decisions need to be made, not

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Speaker 4: only the fifty three man roster, but what I love

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Speaker 4: the practice squad, those guys that need to get called

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Speaker 4: up in those key situations to fill role positions. I

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Speaker 4: love to see that roster take shape and then just

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Speaker 4: to have games that actually count. We're so close to

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Speaker 4: football that counts actually being back.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of the practice squad, I always find it really

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Speaker 2: interesting over the last few years, who's going to try

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Speaker 2: to steal players off our practice squad? Because that has

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Speaker 2: happened quite a bit over the last few seasons.

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Speaker 5: With the type of roster that we have here in place.

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Speaker 2: You know, some of these guys who are going to

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Speaker 2: get put on the practice squad are going to be

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Speaker 2: taken by other teams, and those players could have some

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Speaker 2: roles on other teams just because of the depth that

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Speaker 2: is here, the type of roster that Brandon Bean and

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Speaker 2: the scouting staff puts together. But Sean McDermott announced yesterday

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Speaker 2: before practice that Josh Allen and the starters would see

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Speaker 2: some time on the field. We're not sure how much

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Speaker 2: Josh Allen did play in an entire quarter against the Steelers.

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Speaker 2: That was the first quarter. Most of the starters as well,

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Speaker 2: saw the first quarter. Some of them even went into

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Speaker 5: Quarter a little bit.

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Speaker 2: So we'll see what that looks like for plan of

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Speaker 2: attack on Saturday afternoon. Chris, are you surprised to hear

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Speaker 2: that Josh and the starters will have some time tomorrow?

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Speaker 4: I'm not, and I think it's just pretty obvious that

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Speaker 4: it wasn't the best showing for that first team. Now,

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Speaker 4: I will say a lot of the kind of sky

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Speaker 4: is falling performance for a lot of fans, if you

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Speaker 4: really look at it, it was mostly due to penalties.

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Speaker 4: Like Josh Allen completed seven of ten passes. There were

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Speaker 4: a few throws that he made, like the sideline long

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Speaker 3: That was an awesome throw.

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Speaker 4: Like one of those you know, only a few quarterbacks

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Speaker 4: can make type of throws they got called back due

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Speaker 4: to penalty. I think, more so than poor play, Sean

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Speaker 4: mcdermotge just wants to see that first team unit go

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Speaker 4: the silly pre snap penalties, even the holdings to call

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Speaker 4: go in with a good taste in their mouth into

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Speaker 4: that huge Monday night matchup against the Jets in New Jersey.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's all about cleaning it up. I think that

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Speaker 2: not that Josh Allen had had a bad first quarter

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Speaker 5: You want to see that cleaned up.

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Speaker 2: You want to see some efficiency out there, everybody being

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Speaker 2: we all worry about when we hear the starters are

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Speaker 2: you talked about the sky is falling mentality of some

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Speaker 2: Twenty seven to fifteen. Was the score there. And I

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Speaker 2: think it's also important to remember that the type of

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Speaker 2: planning and prep that goes into a preseason game is

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Speaker 2: nothing like the regular season. So what you're seeing out

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Speaker 2: at I'm not saying that's a reason for the penalties,

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Speaker 2: have seen, some of that is because they don't do

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Speaker 2: too much planning to prepare for an opponent like the

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Speaker 2: of people said the Bills had a hard time with

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Speaker 2: guy like TJ. Watt, but how much preparation really goes

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Speaker 2: into game by game by game for a three game

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Speaker 2: The coaching staff is really really prepared on trying to

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Speaker 2: on the team. Preseason games do matter because it's another

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Speaker 2: But when it comes to going up against the specific opponent,

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Speaker 2: I don't think that's number one on their list. And

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Speaker 2: it's not just the Bills, it's every other NFL team too,

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Speaker 2: And it's.

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Speaker 4: A really good point to kind of go off of

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Speaker 4: I think during the drought, the Bills were just rolling

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Speaker 4: They can play, you know, a different look against the Chiefs,

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Speaker 4: of the upper echelon quarterbacks. The following week, they might

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Speaker 4: face a really good run game, so they have to

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Speaker 4: more those type of week to week game planning kind

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Speaker 4: of differences or alterations. It's not going to happen in

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Speaker 4: the preseason, and I think that's where the Bills really

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Speaker 3: They would have gain planned a little bit differently.

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Speaker 4: That's not to excuse the performance, and like you said,

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Speaker 4: you know, those penalties were a sticking point for Sean

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Speaker 3: One last point that.

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Speaker 4: I want to mention on that preseason game, a lot

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Speaker 4: a second. Josh Allen was pressured four time on his

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Speaker 4: ten dropbacks, and Pro Football Focus credited all of those

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Speaker 4: if a quarterback's pressured a lot, his offensive line isn't

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Speaker 4: playing bad. But at times Josh Allen needs to get

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Speaker 4: Although obviously he's arguably the best ad libber in the NFL,

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Speaker 4: so you kind of have that give and take. I

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Speaker 4: think it's good for Josh Allen to kind of get

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Speaker 4: he feels some pressure and he doesn't drift to his

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Speaker 4: right into another pass rusher, he just dumps the football

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Speaker 4: to having that good balance between improvising and not creating

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Speaker 2: And you talk about improvising there tomorrow against the Bears.

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Speaker 2: We're not sure what the script is going to look like.

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Speaker 2: We're not sure if they're going to have five to

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Speaker 2: preseason games give you an opportunity, especially for veteran players,

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Speaker 2: what you're seeing. It's time and a place to test things,

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Speaker 2: to try things out, just like training camp practices are

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Speaker 2: the same. You're trying to figure things out here. The

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Speaker 2: some things out, and maybe it's not going to look

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Speaker 2: there one more time. You spoke about the offensive line,

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Speaker 2: and I understand a lot of our fans. They're focused

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Speaker 2: going to be that starting five. They want to know

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Speaker 2: the pocket that he needs because it is such an

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Speaker 2: important facet of the game. Speaking of the offensive line,

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Speaker 2: one interesting factor there is going to be Connor McGovern.

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Speaker 2: He did not practice yesterday. Yesterday was not full pads.

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Speaker 2: The guys didn't have full pads on. It was a

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Speaker 2: Connor McGovern came out of that practice, so he didn't

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Speaker 2: finish Wednesday's practice, did not practice on Thursday, So I'm

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Speaker 2: not sure what his stats is going to be for

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Speaker 2: If that's the case, then that opens up opportunity for

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Speaker 5: We'll see what the plan.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I can go through this relatively quickly. Osiris Torrance

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Speaker 3: Yes, there's a lot of talk about the Bills defense.

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Speaker 2: And you love to see Osiris Torrance coming out here

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Speaker 4: All right, I'm gonna go with kind of a layup here.

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Speaker 2: Year, Gabe Davis had two catches for twenty nine yards

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Speaker 2: Shaq Lawson in this game. I think he's He's one

440
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Speaker 2: player that's kind of battling for being one of the

441
00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:55,080
Speaker 2: last few in in that defensive end room. I want

442
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Speaker 2: to see what he can do on the field against

443
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Speaker 2: the Chicago Bears. You talk about Basha and aj Epeness,

444
00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:04,399
Speaker 2: I think Shaq Lawson is there in the mix as well.

445
00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:08,119
Speaker 2: He's not as young as those guys, but has seen

446
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Speaker 2: time with this team. You know, came back to this

447
00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:15,320
Speaker 2: team last year and loves being a Buffalo Bill. This

448
00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:17,800
Speaker 2: is the place that he wants to be. He's a

449
00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:20,320
Speaker 2: great personality in the locker room. A lot of guys

450
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Speaker 2: enjoy playing with him, enjoy having him around. I think

451
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Speaker 2: he has to have a strong showing against the Bears

452
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Speaker 2: to make a case for why he deserves a spot

453
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Speaker 2: on this final roster, final roster of fifty three guys.

454
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Speaker 2: Can he be one of those guys that are in

455
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Speaker 2: You wonder what's the magic number there for defensive lineman.

456
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Speaker 2: If you're going to be rotating like you rotated last year?

457
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Speaker 5: Is that ten? Is that eleven? Is that nine?

458
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Speaker 2: How many guys are going to be on the final

459
00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:50,680
Speaker 2: fifty three? It's a game you can play with each

460
00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:53,480
Speaker 2: position group. Offensive line is also going to be a

461
00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:56,200
Speaker 2: position group that keeps quite a few guys O line,

462
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Speaker 2: D line, defensive backs will probably be your biggest group.

463
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Speaker 2: But how many are there going to be? Who's number

464
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Speaker 2: four on your list before.

465
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Speaker 3: I get to that fourth selection?

466
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Speaker 4: I think a great point that I want to kind

467
00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:12,719
Speaker 4: of segue off of there. We always talk about versatility

468
00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:14,719
Speaker 4: that the Bills love it up front on the offensive

469
00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:17,720
Speaker 4: line with Ryan Bates can play anywhere. What I think

470
00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:22,480
Speaker 4: Shaq Lawson and Boogie Basham have going for them. They're bigger,

471
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Speaker 4: thicker bodies in aj Epanessa and even Kingsley Jonathan, who

472
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Speaker 4: I think is kind of a sneaky maybe make the

473
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Speaker 4: final fifty three man roster candidate. They can play inside

474
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Speaker 4: and I almost like them a little better with you

475
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Speaker 4: have Leonard Floyd and Gregory Russo or von Miller and

476
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Speaker 4: Russeau rushing off the edge, and then Shaq Lawson or

477
00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:45,800
Speaker 4: Boogie Bashum inside to use their quickness against guards as

478
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Speaker 4: opposed to just having them be defensive ents. So I

479
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Speaker 4: think when Brandon Bean and Sean McDermott the rest of

480
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Speaker 4: the coaching staff are really trying to work through and

481
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Speaker 4: dwindle it down to fifty three, which it has to

482
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Speaker 4: be very difficult to do. I don't envy that at

483
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Speaker 4: all that job they need to do. They can look

484
00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:03,760
Speaker 4: at Basham and shack Lost in your pick and say

485
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Speaker 4: these guys can be those inside Nickel defensive tackle rushers.

486
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Speaker 4: So after that, I'm going with Damien Harris. I think

487
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Speaker 4: we haven't seen a lot of him and we're not

488
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Speaker 4: totally sure if he's going to play, but he has

489
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Speaker 4: been practicing. I've spoken many times about how good he's

490
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Speaker 4: been in the red zone in his career, that he's

491
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Speaker 4: been one of the most efficient backs in the red

492
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Speaker 4: zone in terms of yards per carry second behind Latavius

493
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Speaker 4: Murray ironically since twenty twenty. So I want to just

494
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Speaker 4: see what he looks like, see if the burst is

495
00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:35,199
Speaker 4: still there, if he can bounce off tackles like he

496
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Speaker 4: did at a pretty high rate when he was healthy

497
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Speaker 4: in New England. I know this is not going to

498
00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:43,520
Speaker 4: be a team that runs the football a ton, but

499
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Speaker 4: to have depth behind James Cook who's still relatively unproven

500
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Speaker 4: and Latavius Murray who is up there in age. Damien

501
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,679
Speaker 4: Harris being in his mid twenties, he's really, if he's healthy,

502
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Speaker 4: should be in the prime of his physical career.

503
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Speaker 3: I want to see if for.

504
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Speaker 4: Not getting a lot of him during training camp and

505
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Speaker 4: over the last couple of weeks with the injury, I

506
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Speaker 4: want to see him back on the field fresh and

507
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Speaker 4: ready to go from the preseason into the regular season.

508
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Speaker 2: And one more point about the defensive line room and

509
00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:10,400
Speaker 2: how many guys they'll keep when it comes to edge

510
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Speaker 2: rushers and tackles. One important question that may not even

511
00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:17,840
Speaker 2: be answered in time is von Miller's status. He remains

512
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Speaker 2: on the pup list. If that's going to be the

513
00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:23,840
Speaker 2: case heading into Week one and beyond, you wonder if

514
00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:29,280
Speaker 2: they keep one extra guy, one extra defensive end in

515
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Speaker 2: the case that maybe von Miller doesn't see the field

516
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Speaker 2: until after the first few weeks of the season.

517
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Speaker 5: I have no idea when von Miller is going.

518
00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:40,080
Speaker 2: To see the field, So this is just a not

519
00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:43,600
Speaker 2: even a guess, just a scenario on my end of things,

520
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Speaker 2: So you may want to keep one or two extra

521
00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:48,560
Speaker 2: guys in that room if you're thinking, hey, von Miller

522
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:52,080
Speaker 2: may not see the field until week five, week six.

523
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Speaker 2: Speaking of running backs, I want to see some more

524
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Speaker 2: out of Latavious Murray. It was fun to see him

525
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Speaker 2: get involved in catching some passes from Kyle Allen and

526
00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:06,160
Speaker 2: Matt Barkley and breaking off a couple good runs. He's

527
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:09,840
Speaker 2: an interesting character because you look at this team before

528
00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:12,800
Speaker 2: training camp started and he was a part of the bunch.

529
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,720
Speaker 2: But Nahim Hines was a part of the bunch too.

530
00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 2: Nahim Hines did suffer that injury unfortunately, so he'll be

531
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Speaker 2: out for the entire season. And with that, Latavius Murray

532
00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:26,480
Speaker 2: has an opportunity now on this roster, and I think

533
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:30,560
Speaker 2: it's been it's been fun. The coach is probably expected

534
00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:32,760
Speaker 2: to see this out of him. That's probably why they

535
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Speaker 2: signed a player like Latavius Murray. He's always been very,

536
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Speaker 2: very consistent. He's a guy that I always try to

537
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:42,159
Speaker 2: have on my fantasy teams, honestly because he's been consistent

538
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:44,879
Speaker 2: year in and year out. He's thirty three years old,

539
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:47,560
Speaker 2: but he can offer a team a lot still, So

540
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Speaker 2: I'm glad he's a Buffalo Bill, and I'm really excited

541
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Speaker 2: to see how they use him on offense this season

542
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Speaker 2: once we get into the regular season, because I do

543
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Speaker 2: think he will play a role and it's been fun

544
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Speaker 2: to see what he's been able to do already. I

545
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:03,320
Speaker 2: want to continue to see that out of him against

546
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:04,240
Speaker 2: Chicago tomorrow.

547
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:07,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's a really good pick because it's

548
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:12,080
Speaker 4: suddenly like pretty obvious that Latavius Murray is gonna be

549
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,160
Speaker 4: I don't want to say a big part of the offense,

550
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:16,439
Speaker 4: but yeah, he's gonna be featured. Yea, whether it be

551
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:18,439
Speaker 4: in the red zone. We've seen him catch the football

552
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 4: out of the backfield.

553
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:20,200
Speaker 3: Funny point.

554
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:22,199
Speaker 4: And I always, at some point when I'm on these

555
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:25,480
Speaker 4: shows go back to the draft stuff. Latavius Murray is

556
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:27,600
Speaker 4: thirty three, He's played a fair amount of football, not

557
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 4: someone that's ever been that workhorse two hundred and seventy

558
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:32,920
Speaker 4: five three hundred carries in a season, which I think

559
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,879
Speaker 4: has helped keep his legs fresh. But I always go

560
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:37,560
Speaker 4: back to the workout that he had coming out of

561
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 4: UCF and he was it was an all time workout,

562
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:43,880
Speaker 4: ran sub four four, had a three cone That was amazing.

563
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:46,359
Speaker 4: So even if he has lost a step or two,

564
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:50,359
Speaker 4: he's someone that certainly still has the athletic juice. I

565
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:53,120
Speaker 4: think of someone that is much younger than his thirty

566
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Speaker 4: three year old age.

567
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Speaker 5: Who's the last guy on your list? Chris?

568
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Speaker 4: All right, I'm gonna clump these together, all three. I'm

569
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Speaker 4: going to say that number three wide receiver spot Khalil Shakir,

570
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 4: Deanti Hardy, Trent Sherfield, Surefield made the great catch last week.

571
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:10,959
Speaker 4: Deanty Hardy had a reception or two. Not much from

572
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:14,000
Speaker 4: Khalil Shakir, and he might not play. But for as

573
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:15,560
Speaker 4: much as the Bills are going to be in twelve

574
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 4: personnel a lot, I just want to see who's going

575
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 4: to line up when they are an eleven personnel in

576
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Speaker 4: a three wide receiver.

577
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Speaker 2: Set, and then I will go bottom of the wide

578
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:27,399
Speaker 2: receiver group. That's also another interesting group. Who's going to

579
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Speaker 2: be the last two in? Who's going to be the

580
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:31,639
Speaker 2: last one in? How many guys are you keeping in

581
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:35,000
Speaker 2: that wide receiver room? There's thirteen on the roster right now.

582
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 2: Is your magic number five or six or is it

583
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 2: a different number than that? So if you're looking at

584
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 2: that position group. Who's going to be the last guy in.

585
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:46,800
Speaker 2: Is it going to be a player like Justin Shorter

586
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 2: who they drafted, A Tyrrell Shavers, a Keishawn Johnson. You

587
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 2: would assume that they'd want to keep a guy that

588
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 2: they drafted, And Justin Shorter did kind of pop against

589
00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 2: the Steelers, which was good to see because we've seen

590
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 2: a lot out of a player like Tyrell Shavers, who's

591
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 2: been very very consistent through camp, and I think surprise

592
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 2: some people, we haven't seen that consistency out of Justin Shorter.

593
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:12,960
Speaker 2: We did against the Steelers last week. So who is

594
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 2: going to be that wide receiver that pops against the

595
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 2: Chicago Bears on Saturday tomorrow at one o'clock once that

596
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:22,480
Speaker 2: game starts. So I'm kind of looking at those few

597
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 2: guys who could be some of the last few in

598
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 2: that wide receiver position group.

599
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think that makes a lot of sense.

600
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 4: We don't really know a lot of these guys have

601
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 4: similar frames that Tyrrel Shavers is big. Marcel Aightman had

602
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 4: a couple of catches against the Colts. There's a lot

603
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:43,720
Speaker 4: of bigger bodies. Desmond Patman is six foot four coming

604
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:44,640
Speaker 4: out of Washington State.

605
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 3: I remember scouting him.

606
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 4: He's a fun, physical player, And it's just really mysterious

607
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:52,960
Speaker 4: because again the twelve personnel buzz word that we've heard

608
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 4: so much about all summer, are they gonna maybe not

609
00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 4: keep as many wide receivers as they have in the

610
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 4: past where they're usually key being five or six on

611
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Speaker 4: the roster because they like Dawson Knox. Of course, they

612
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 4: just drafted Dalton Kincatie's going to be a big part

613
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Speaker 4: of the offense.

614
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Speaker 3: They like Quentin.

615
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 4: Morris, they like Reggie Gilliam who's kind of that fullback

616
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Speaker 4: tight end. So it'll be really interesting to see if

617
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Speaker 4: anyone at the bottom of the wide receiver room does

618
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 4: enough to just say, hey, look, we need to keep

619
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Speaker 4: this guy on the roster. If that's what Brandon Bean

620
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Speaker 4: and Sean McDermott may just be forced to do.

621
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Speaker 3: If these guys play well.

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Speaker 2: Tomorrow night, Yeah, if you're in twelve personnel quite a

623
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Speaker 2: bit this year, you would think that you have to

624
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 2: at least keep one more true tight end on your

625
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Speaker 2: roster to be able to allow daltonk and Cator Dawson

626
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Speaker 2: Knox to get a breather once in a while.

627
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Speaker 5: If you're going to be using that a lot more

628
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Speaker 5: than you did last year.

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Speaker 2: All right, break time for us. When we come back,

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Speaker 2: we'll dip into our tweet sheets fan mailbag. So if

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641
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Speaker 2: yesterday during practice, Broncos wide receiver Jerry Judy was carted

642
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:25,239
Speaker 2: off the practice field and news is that it's a

643
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 2: hamstring injury and he will reportedly miss several weeks. I

644
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 2: feel like the Broncos wide receivers are always getting injured,

645
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 2: Jerry Judy being a part of that category as well.

646
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Speaker 2: You don't want to see that. Broncos head coach Sean

647
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Speaker 2: Payton confirmed after practice it's a hamstring. We'll get an

648
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 2: MRI and see where it's at. This was yesterday now

649
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 2: coming out that he will probably miss several weeks according

650
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 2: to reports. So we'll see about the Broncos this year,

651
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Speaker 2: especially if they're gonna start this season without a guy

652
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Speaker 2: like Jerry Judy.

653
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I mean to your first point two or three years ago,

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Speaker 4: the Broncos were like, all right, we have Jerry Judy,

656
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Speaker 4: we have Courtland Sutton. We draft kJ Hammler in the

657
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Speaker 4: second round, this speedster to be in the slot to

658
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 4: stretch defenses vertically.

659
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Speaker 3: I don't know.

660
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Speaker 4: If all three of those guys ever played together, and

661
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 4: if they did, it was there was always kind of

662
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 4: a musical chairs at the quarterback position. So it is

663
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 4: a shame that we haven't gotten to see those two,

664
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 4: at least two players because kJ Hamler is long gone.

665
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:32,120
Speaker 4: Jerry Judy and Courtland Sutton play together on the same

666
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 4: field now, especially in Sean McDermott or in Sean Payton

667
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 4: in his offense to start the season. So not the

668
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 4: best beginning after such a really nightmare season last year

669
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Speaker 4: for Russell Wilson and the Broncos.

670
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Speaker 6: Organization.

671
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's not just Jerry Judy and kJ Hamler.

672
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 2: I mean Tim Patrick suffered a season ending torn achilles

673
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 2: tendon in the first week of camp, and then second

674
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 2: year receiver Jalen Virgil suffered a knee injury in last

675
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:01,560
Speaker 2: Saturday's preseason loss to the San Francisco forty nine Ers.

676
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 2: He's now an injured reserved and then Brandon Johnson, another

677
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,720
Speaker 2: wide receiver for them, also missed several weeks of practice

678
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 2: with a leg injury. He finally returned to practice this week.

679
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:14,320
Speaker 2: But injuries that you whatever team you're on, you don't

680
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 2: want to see that out of your wide receiver unit,

681
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 2: especially when you have a quarterback that needs to have

682
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 2: a bounce back season this year. Speaking of quarterbacks, Casker

683
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 2: and I got into it yesterday about Trey Lance and

684
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Speaker 2: about the forty nine ers and what the heck the

685
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 2: forty nine ers are doing with Trey Lance. So now

686
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 2: it's out that yesterday it was like, Okay, they're gonna

687
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 2: try to seek trade options for Trey Lance, but it

688
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 2: would be nice if Trey Lance is still on the team.

689
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 2: So it wasn't necessarily out there about what his status

690
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:50,280
Speaker 2: or what his future is other than the fact that

691
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 2: Sam Darnold is QB two for the forty nine ers

692
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 2: with Rock Purty earning that starting job. So now GM

693
00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 2: John Lynch is saying that Trey Lance is most likely

694
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 2: going to remain with the team. He was back at

695
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 2: the team facility yesterday.

696
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 5: On Wednesday.

697
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 2: He was not at the team facility when we heard

698
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:13,879
Speaker 2: news of him losing that backup quarterback job, So him

699
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,919
Speaker 2: being back in the building might be some good news

700
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 2: for the forty nine ers if they truly want to

701
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 2: keep him around. John Lynch said, that's most likely the option.

702
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,759
Speaker 2: We're very happy with Trey. The most likely option is

703
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 2: that he's here. If we can find a landing spot

704
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 2: for Trey that is a really good one for him

705
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:32,879
Speaker 2: and works for our organization. That's not something that we'd

706
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:35,359
Speaker 2: turn a blind eye to. But that's not where our

707
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:37,920
Speaker 2: focus is right now. Our focus is on Trey getting

708
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:40,799
Speaker 2: back here and us being the best football team. We're

709
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:44,719
Speaker 2: getting close to Pittsburgh, which is their reach Week one matchup.

710
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that final decision and that statement from

711
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 4: their GDM John Lynch is a smart one. I was

712
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:54,959
Speaker 4: with you, Maddy, that way too early for the forty

713
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 4: nine ers to be done with the Trade Lance experiment.

714
00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:00,440
Speaker 4: Think about this, Trade Lance was in the the same

715
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 4: high school recruiting class as Trevor Lawrence and Will Levis.

716
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 3: The rookie.

717
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:09,759
Speaker 4: Trevor Lawrence has attempted five times as many throws from

718
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:13,440
Speaker 4: high school to now that Trey Lance has thrown, and

719
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 4: Will Levis has more attempts in college and he hasn't

720
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 4: even played in the NFL than Trey Lance had from

721
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 4: his freshman season in college to today. So at this point,

722
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:25,440
Speaker 4: you just can't give up on a player with as

723
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 4: much natural talent as Trey Lance.

724
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:29,759
Speaker 3: And one other point that.

725
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 4: I don't think is being discussed enough because Kyle Shanahan

726
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 4: has deserved the recognition that he gets as this awesome

727
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 4: play designer, play caller. He's just working tirelessly every offseason

728
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 4: to evolve. And a lot of his quarterbacks, almost all

729
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:47,239
Speaker 4: of them from Houston with Matt Schobb to Atlanta with

730
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 4: Matt Ryan, have always been very efficient, even gotten the

731
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 4: most out of some guys like Nick Mullins and Brian

732
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 4: Hoyer in Cleveland. If his system can't work with someone

733
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 4: with a huge eye that can run and add that

734
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:04,399
Speaker 4: wrinkle in the design run game. Then I think there

735
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 4: is something inherently wrong with his system if he has

736
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:10,320
Speaker 4: to have just a quarterback who can operate the system

737
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 4: like a Brock Party or a Sam Darnold. That's Jimmy

738
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:16,359
Speaker 4: Garoppolo that doesn't have a big arm that in those

739
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 4: big games in a Super Bowl, Jimmy Garoppolo missing that

740
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 4: downfield pass against the Chiefs in twenty nineteen, And I

741
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 4: think there's a decent chance that brock Purty comes back

742
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 4: to earth quite a bit in his second season. I

743
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:30,279
Speaker 4: just think that there needs to be more blame on

744
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 4: Kyle Shanahan. You can certainly laud him for everything he

745
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 4: does designing plays and getting the most out of lesser quarterbacks,

746
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:38,759
Speaker 4: but once you get deep into the playoffs or even

747
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:41,719
Speaker 4: into a Super Bowl, you're gonna need your quarterback, not

748
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:44,239
Speaker 4: just your system, to make big plays. So I think

749
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:47,320
Speaker 4: they should definitely continue to keep him on the roster.

750
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:49,759
Speaker 4: He's still relatively young, and there's a good chance they

751
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 4: could actually use him and will need him in twenty

752
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 4: twenty three.

753
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:56,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, Trey Lance is a different type

754
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 2: of quarterback than the quarterbacks that you mentioned. He's somebody

755
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 2: who can run out of the pocket. You can design

756
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 2: runs for him. Jimmy g and Brock Purty don't necessarily

757
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 2: always fit in that description. They're more of your pocket

758
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 2: passing type quarterbacks. So maybe the system in place just

759
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:17,799
Speaker 2: isn't a system for more mobile quarterbacks.

760
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:18,839
Speaker 5: Are you willing to.

761
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 2: Adjust your system to fit your quarterback? You always love

762
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 2: when you're working for playing for a head coach and

763
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:28,719
Speaker 2: an offensive Coordinare that's going to adjust their system to

764
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 2: the type of players that they have on their roster.

765
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 2: That's one thing that Brian Daball always did when he

766
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 2: was here. I think it's one thing that Ken Dorsey

767
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:38,399
Speaker 2: continues to do with the Bills as well. And it's

768
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 2: not like brock Purty has been a part of this

769
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 2: team the entire offseason. Remember he went under surgery. He

770
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:50,480
Speaker 2: had surgery at March tenth to repair that ucl and

771
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:54,360
Speaker 2: he started throwing yes, late May, But it wasn't like

772
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 2: he was involved in practices right away as well. So

773
00:37:57,600 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 2: it's not like you've had an entire offseason with this

774
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 2: guy and you're like.

775
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:01,760
Speaker 5: He's the guy.

776
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 2: He's been incredible on the practice field, like he's wheeling

777
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 2: and dealing. You haven't been able to see that every

778
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 2: single week. He is still, I think, very new in

779
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 2: the system, and I think you're you're not exactly sure

780
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:17,839
Speaker 2: yet what you have again, Big brock Party fan, I was.

781
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:20,399
Speaker 2: It was so fun to watch him last year.

782
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:21,280
Speaker 3: It was a great story.

783
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:23,440
Speaker 2: The games that he had, it was a great story.

784
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:26,920
Speaker 2: Can he continue to do that in his second season?

785
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 2: He was mister irrelevant? He was the last pick in

786
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 2: the NFL draft last season. I hope he can can

787
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 2: continue to do that. But if he doesn't, then having

788
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:40,360
Speaker 2: a backup option, whether it's Sam Donald or Trey Lance,

789
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 2: I think are it's gonna be good for you. Would

790
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:46,280
Speaker 2: you rather have a Trey Lance over a Sam Darnald

791
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 2: if you have to go that direction. If a guy

792
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:52,839
Speaker 2: like Brock Party fizzles out a little bit because defenses

793
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:55,880
Speaker 2: have him figured out, we don't know what the story is.

794
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 2: His story is not finished. He's just entering year two

795
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 2: and his NFL career. So I don't think you could

796
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:05,239
Speaker 2: say we exactly know what we're going to get out

797
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:05,759
Speaker 2: of him yet.

798
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:08,359
Speaker 3: No. I don't think so either.

799
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 4: And we normally see that once defenses and defensive coordinators

800
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:17,960
Speaker 4: get an entire offseason to watch film and to.

801
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:19,720
Speaker 3: Look at any young quarterback.

802
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:22,719
Speaker 4: It always takes some time, especially for those quarterbacks who

803
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:26,279
Speaker 4: don't have the supreme physical talents to play to that

804
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:29,320
Speaker 4: same level in their second or in their third seasons.

805
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:31,279
Speaker 4: And I think Brock Perdy, for as great of a

806
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:35,440
Speaker 4: story as it was, and for as deceptively mobile as

807
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:37,400
Speaker 4: he is, you think of him as just a pocket passer,

808
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 4: but even in Iowa State, he moved around a little bit. Eventually,

809
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 4: the forty nine ers, whether it be on their schedule

810
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 4: this season or once they get into the playoffs, are

811
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 4: going to face a team that can stop their system.

812
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 4: And Kyle Shanahan's system is probably the best in the

813
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:55,400
Speaker 4: NFL in terms of just run game efficiency, getting the

814
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 4: most out of quarterbacks. When you're facing the Eagles, or

815
00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:00,799
Speaker 4: maybe it's the Cowboys this year, or prize team, maybe

816
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 4: it's the Lions, your players need to make those plays

817
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:06,799
Speaker 4: with their physical traits, and that's where Brock Purty comes

818
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:09,440
Speaker 4: up a little bit short. I think he's intelligent. He

819
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:11,839
Speaker 4: was pretty accurate last season. There were some games where

820
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:14,239
Speaker 4: you kind of saw that, oh, he could have made

821
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:15,799
Speaker 4: that throw if his arm was a little stronger, but

822
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 4: it was knocked away. The team is good, but at

823
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 4: this point too, I don't think that they would get

824
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:25,359
Speaker 4: the correct amount of compensation for someone like Trey Lance

825
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:29,320
Speaker 4: that's playing the most valuable position on the field. With that, still,

826
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:32,360
Speaker 4: I think immense upside If you can only get a

827
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Speaker 4: Day three selection for a quarterback that you just traded

828
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:39,279
Speaker 4: three first rounderscore and is fast and has a big

829
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 4: arm and has untapped potential and is not very old.

830
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:44,760
Speaker 4: It just doesn't line up for a team to ultimately

831
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 4: make that move, especially like you're saying, with someone that

832
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 4: was mister irrelevant and then Sam Darnold, who's bounced around

833
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:53,880
Speaker 4: the league after being a buss at number three overall

834
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:56,600
Speaker 4: in twenty eighteen, as your two quarterbacks.

835
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Speaker 6: On the roster.

836
00:40:56,880 --> 00:41:02,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely sticking with quarterbacks. The Cardinals were trading guys yesterday.

837
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 2: They were involved in guys yesterday. They were wheeling and dealing,

838
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:11,440
Speaker 2: trading guys off their roster and getting quarterbacks. The Browns

839
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:16,960
Speaker 2: traded quarterback backup quarterback Josh Dobbs to the Cardinals. It

840
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 2: was in exchange for a fifth round draft pick in

841
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:26,319
Speaker 2: the twenty twenty four NFL Draft. That happened yesterday. It

842
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 2: came hours after Kevin Stefanski said that he would be

843
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 2: the team's number two quarterback, which I thought was interesting.

844
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 2: It was like, Oh, Josh Dobbs wins the backup job,

845
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 2: and actually we're trading him to the Cardinals. So Dobbs

846
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:43,359
Speaker 2: has bounced around quite a bit. Started his NFL career

847
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:45,239
Speaker 2: with the Steelers, went to the Jags, went back to

848
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 2: the Steelers and the Browns, the Lions, the Titans, back

849
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:51,280
Speaker 2: to the Browns and or not ye, back to the Browns,

850
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:53,920
Speaker 2: and now is on the Arizona Cardinals. I got to

851
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:55,919
Speaker 2: cover him when I worked at Tennessee, so I'm quite

852
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 2: familiar with the type of guy and quarterback.

853
00:41:57,600 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 5: That he is.

854
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 2: I think he fits today's kind of mo of a quarterback.

855
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 2: He can get out of pocket and run. I think

856
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:08,399
Speaker 2: he throws a nice ball. I think he's a little

857
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 2: bit of a slower runner if you're looking at athleticism

858
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:14,279
Speaker 2: from quarterbacks. But I always want to see this guy

859
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:18,360
Speaker 2: have an opportunity, so hopefully he gets one with Arizona Cardinals.

860
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:21,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, Josh Jobbs kind of feels like, even though he's

861
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:24,400
Speaker 4: not that much younger, he kind of feels like the

862
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:28,239
Speaker 4: next generation, let's say, of Jacoby Brissett, like he is

863
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 4: just that consummate backup that's going to bounce around the

864
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:34,320
Speaker 4: league because he's smart. The athleticism is, like you mentioned,

865
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 4: not amazing, but it's good enough. The arm strength is there,

866
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:40,839
Speaker 4: he can understand multiple systems. What I think Kevin Stefanski's

867
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 4: saying that he won the backup job. I think, and

868
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:45,920
Speaker 4: maybe this is just hindsight being twenty twenty, is that

869
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:48,279
Speaker 4: he was trying to boost up any trade value to say, hey, look,

870
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:50,359
Speaker 4: you could be trading for our backup quarterback. Because if

871
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 4: you watch any Browns preseason games, Dorian Thompson Robinson, the

872
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Speaker 3: A lot of fun. He made a lot of big throws,

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Speaker 3: designed run games. Stuff was there.

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Speaker 4: The scrambling ability that we saw in the Pac twelve

876
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Speaker 4: for four seasons was also very apparent.

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Speaker 3: So it almost felt like he should be the backup.

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Speaker 4: But oh, like I get Josh Jobbs that he's a veteran,

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Speaker 4: that he's established that he won it. But now I

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Speaker 4: think the Arizona Cardinals made that trade even though they

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Speaker 4: are trying to just gather those draft picks because Kyler.

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Speaker 3: Murray's health is still up in the air.

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Speaker 4: And the only other quarterback that they have is rookie

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Speaker 4: Clayton Toons, So I think they like the stability that

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Speaker 4: comes with Josh Jobbs if he needs to play early

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Speaker 4: this season.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you always wonder when coaches are talking guys up,

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Speaker 2: it's like are you exactly great?

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Speaker 5: Gms?

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Speaker 2: It's like, are you doing this for an ulterior motive?

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Speaker 2: Do you have something going on in the back here,

892
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Speaker 2: in the background here that you may want to get

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Speaker 2: him on another team? So maybe that was Steven Kevin

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Speaker 2: Stefanski's play there. We're going to take a break when

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Speaker 2: about the tweet sheet this segment, but we didn't get

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Speaker 2: to it, so we'll do that next. On One Bill's Live.

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Speaker 2: We got some calls hanging on the line, so we'll

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Speaker 2: us with any questions you have ahead of the Bills

906
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Speaker 2: is final preseason game tomorrow against the Chicago Bears. We've

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Speaker 2: got Marie who's been hanging on the line. We'll go

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Speaker 2: over to you, Marie.

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Speaker 5: What's up? How you doing?

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Speaker 2: Hey, Maddie, how are you doing good?

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Speaker 5: What question do you have for us?

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Speaker 7: All right?

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Speaker 8: For both of you? Is there any concern for our

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Speaker 8: backup quarterback because there's not much out there except maybe

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Speaker 8: I get Carson Wins to try out. I mean, what

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Speaker 8: do you think about that? Because it's two we have,

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Speaker 8: it's pretty tough.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think we've seen up and down from both of

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Speaker 2: our backup quarterbacks, Matt Barkley and Kyle Allen. You could

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Speaker 2: say the same, you know about any quarterback that's seen

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Speaker 2: some time in preseason games. A chance to try things out,

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Speaker 2: a chance to learn.

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Speaker 5: A new offense.

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Speaker 2: And that's what Kyle Allen is going through right now.

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Speaker 2: And I think we saw him take a step forward

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Speaker 2: against the Steelers when he saw the field that first

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Speaker 2: preseason game. His stats did not look the best, but

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Speaker 2: Ken Dorsey said that Matt Barkley and Kyle Allen grated

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Speaker 2: out similarly after their performances against the Colts. Against the Steelers,

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Speaker 2: Kyle Allen goes twelve to fifteen for one hundred and

932
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Speaker 2: twelve passing yards and a touchdown. Finishes with a one

933
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Speaker 2: to twenty passer rating, which is a really great number.

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Speaker 2: Matt Barkley seven of twelve for ninety three yards a

935
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Speaker 2: forty three passer rating, so not as good of a

936
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Speaker 2: day for Matt Barkley. He did throw three interceptions as well,

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Speaker 2: so we'll see what we get.

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Speaker 5: Out of those eyes on Saturday.

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Speaker 2: Honestly, I'm not sure what Matt Barkley's status is going

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Speaker 2: to be for that game because he didn't practice at

941
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Speaker 2: all this week with that right elbow injury. So maybe

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Speaker 2: we will really just see Kyle Allen against.

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Speaker 5: The Chicago Bears.

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Speaker 2: But Chris, what do you think about the backup quarterback situation?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean most teams in the NFL, even the

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Speaker 4: good ones, they don't have this fringe starter as their

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Speaker 4: number two. And I think the Bill's backup quarterback job

948
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Speaker 4: is probably about league average, like where you would expect

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Speaker 4: that if you have an elite quarterback and he's out

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Speaker 4: for any extended period of time, your team's not going

951
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Speaker 4: to be nearly as good at quarterback. But I will

952
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Speaker 4: say that I don't think it's dire enough where the

953
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Speaker 4: Bills need to like do anything drastic and make a

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Speaker 4: trade and give up a mid round pick to bring

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Speaker 4: in someone, because even though he runs a lot, Josh

956
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Speaker 4: Allen has been very durable. Obviously, you know, there's a

957
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Speaker 4: thought that he could get injured because he does run

958
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Speaker 4: a lot. But I think it's hasn't been so bad.

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Speaker 4: Like you mentioned, the second half of Kyle Allen last week,

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Speaker 4: and then to get probably most of the game against

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Speaker 4: the Steelers, I think will be really good for him

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Speaker 4: to just get some more of those reps in this offense.

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Speaker 4: So it's not an amazing situation at backup quarterback, but

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Speaker 4: it's not bad enough that I.

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Speaker 3: Think the Bills need to do anything drastic at this point.

966
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, Kyle Allen is learning a new offense.

967
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Speaker 2: Ken Dorsey says, week to week, we've been able to

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Speaker 2: see improvements in what he's been able to do. Matt

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Speaker 2: Barkley is a guy who knows this offense, who's played

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Speaker 2: in this offense before. Didn't have the greatest showing against

971
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Speaker 2: the Steelers, had a better game against the Colts, so

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Speaker 2: they've kind of gone back and forth, at least in

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Speaker 2: the first two preseason games that we've seen. They haven't

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Speaker 2: named a backup quarterback yet. They've said it's been an

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Speaker 2: open competition between Matt Barkley and Kyle Allen. We'll see

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Speaker 2: what happens tomorrow against the Bears, if Matt Barkley is

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Speaker 2: able to go, or if Kyle Allen really gets a

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Speaker 2: ball of those reps in the final three year, maybe

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Speaker 2: he sees time in all four quarters of the game

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Speaker 2: because Josh Allen is off the field so quickly. But

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Speaker 2: we'll have that answer there soon. For some of these

982
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Speaker 2: position groups, when you look at the battles going on

983
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Speaker 2: for some of these guys, you wonder, Okay, it's probably

984
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:12,680
Speaker 2: too late to bring in a person at this position

985
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Speaker 2: if you're gonna involve them in a battle quarterback too,

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Speaker 2: Maybe an option that, Hey, we've got the guys that

987
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Speaker 2: we want. They're already in this building. We don't want

988
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Speaker 2: to go look elsewhere, whether it's QB two, whether it's linebacker.

989
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Speaker 2: I've heard and seen people on Twitter say, you know,

990
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Speaker 2: is there an option that or is there a world

991
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Speaker 2: where we could bring a guy in this building and

992
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Speaker 2: he could turn into a our starting middle linebacker. I

993
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Speaker 2: think you're getting too far too close to week one

994
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Speaker 2: with some of those position groups. Who knows about the

995
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Speaker 2: middle of the season, because I'm just really looking at

996
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:50,879
Speaker 2: week one here. But we'll see what we get out

997
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Speaker 2: of Kyle Allen against the Bears tomorrow.

998
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Speaker 5: Let's see.

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Speaker 2: We've got our fan mail bag open for you, but

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Speaker 2: we will dip into that once we get back from

1001
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Speaker 2: our break here. We've got a full segment left before

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Speaker 2: we get on with Mike Sando at two thirty. He's

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Speaker 2: going to be talking to us about some cool articles

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Speaker 2: that he has out. One is about ranking quarterbacks, ranking

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Speaker 2: teams according to the opposing quarterbacks they play against, and

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Speaker 2: you can guess the Bills are pretty high up on

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Speaker 2: that list for some tough quarterbacks that they're going to

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Speaker 2: face during this twenty twenty three season. So stick with

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Speaker 2: us here on One Bills Live. We're presented by Clyde

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Speaker 2: Health on Buffalo Bills Radio.

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Speaker 1: This is One Bill's Live presented by called Lida Health.

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Speaker 5: Welcome to our number two of One Bill's Live.

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Speaker 2: Matti Glab alongside CBS Sports, NFL and Draft analyst Chris Drapasso,

1014
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Speaker 2: Happy to have you on with us, and the team

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Speaker 2: is wheels up to Chicago as they take on the

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Speaker 2: Bears tomorrow afternoon in the final preseason game. I'm ready

1017
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Speaker 2: to be focused on Week one. We've got our fan

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Speaker 2: mail bag that's open for you, so give us a

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Speaker 2: point fifty or.

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Speaker 5: Tweet at us.

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Speaker 2: We will finally be reading off the tweet sheet here

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Speaker 2: in this segment. But we've had Dave who's been hanging

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Speaker 2: on the line, So let's go over to Dave from Rochester.

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Speaker 5: Dave, what do you have for us?

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Speaker 8: Well, I'm another backup quarterback call, and thanks for taking

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Speaker 8: my call.

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Speaker 5: What do you have about the backup quarterbacks?

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Speaker 8: I just think it's not good enough, and I think

1030
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Speaker 8: the way the builds have been handling it, they're eventually

1031
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Speaker 8: either going to have to get a guy a longer

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Speaker 8: term or in some drafts draft and develop a backup.

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Speaker 8: I'm for seeing what the Poorty editors will except for

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Speaker 8: Trey Lance. I'm actually also for seeing what Carson Wentz

1035
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Speaker 8: have loved, because I think Carson Wentz is an upgrade

1036
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Speaker 8: a definitely at the right price over Barkley and Kyle Allen,

1037
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Speaker 8: because I've seen enough of both of them, and let's

1038
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Speaker 8: face it, Kyle Allen lost. So starting dropping college to

1039
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:48,760
Speaker 8: a guy that's not in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll see what we get out of Kyle Allen

1041
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Speaker 2: tomorrow against the Bears. Dave, thanks for your call on

1042
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Speaker 2: that topic of backup quarterbacks. Sean McDermott, Ken Dorsey, Brandon

1043
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Speaker 2: Bean have given us no inclination that they want to.

1044
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Speaker 5: Look elsewhere for a backup quarterback.

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00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:12,720
Speaker 2: I think they believe that the two that are under

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Speaker 2: the umbrella of the Bills right now are still the

1047
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Speaker 2: two that they're looking at for that backup quarterback spot.

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Speaker 2: If you bring a guy in here, let's say, in

1049
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Speaker 2: a week or so, final cuts again on Tuesday afternoon,

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Speaker 2: those have to be in at four o'clock. You're getting

1051
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Speaker 2: close to the window of or maybe you're past that window,

1052
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Speaker 2: depending on who you're speaking to, depending on what coach

1053
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Speaker 2: you're speaking to, what team you're speaking to, of the

1054
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Speaker 2: last the last moment that you would want to have

1055
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Speaker 2: a guy in the door trying to learn an offense,

1056
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Speaker 2: because who knows what can happen to your starting quarterback.

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Speaker 5: You might want to.

1058
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Speaker 2: Have a few weeks for a guy to be able

1059
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Speaker 2: to start to learn an offense and learn a system

1060
00:52:58,239 --> 00:53:03,640
Speaker 2: that he could get plugged into right away, so they

1061
00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:06,000
Speaker 2: could be past that window. I don't know what Brandon

1062
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Speaker 2: Bean and Sean McDermitt are thinking about that, but we

1063
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Speaker 2: haven't heard anything from them that says, hey, maybe they

1064
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Speaker 2: will go look elsewhere for a backup quarterback.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Dave, I don't think the worry is unwarranted because

1066
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Speaker 4: neither of the two backups have strung together long stretches

1067
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Speaker 4: of quality play this preseason. Like you mentioned, Barkley was

1068
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Speaker 4: good against the Colts, but not so much against the Steelers,

1069
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Speaker 4: and then vice versa for Kyle Allen. But I wouldn't

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Speaker 4: hate them kind of calling the forty nine Ers and

1071
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Speaker 4: seeing about Trey Lance or maybe even working out Carson Wentz.

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Speaker 4: But either of if either of those two were brought

1073
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Speaker 4: into Buffalo like you're mentioning, Maddie, they're not going to

1074
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Speaker 4: suddenly just be plugged into the backup starting role or

1075
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Speaker 4: the backup quarterback job. That it would be a quarterback

1076
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Speaker 4: three situation or a long term kind of stash and developed.

1077
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Speaker 3: Type situation for either of those quarterback. So I guess maybe.

1078
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Speaker 4: Carson Wentz because he's played a lot of football compared

1079
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Speaker 4: to Trey Lance, who's barely played any would have a

1080
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Speaker 4: better opportunity to learn a system faster. But to have

1081
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Speaker 4: Matt Barkley and Kyle Allen with the team from Mini

1082
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Speaker 4: camp all the way on learning the system to then

1083
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Speaker 4: suddenly have them be supplanted by someone that they picked

1084
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:20,919
Speaker 4: up off the street or traded from another team would

1085
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Speaker 4: be pretty far fetched. And to Dave's other point, I

1086
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Speaker 4: wouldn't be opposed to in next year's draft or in

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Speaker 4: twenty twenty five, the Bills using a later round pick

1088
00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:32,840
Speaker 4: on a developmental type quarterback just to have someone that

1089
00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:33,880
Speaker 4: you feel better about.

1090
00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:35,800
Speaker 3: That's a long term backup option.

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00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:38,080
Speaker 4: But I think at this point, to your point, Maddy,

1092
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:41,680
Speaker 4: it's too late for the Bills to add someone that

1093
00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:44,360
Speaker 4: they would feel good about being one play away potentially

1094
00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:47,479
Speaker 4: from taking snaps in the shotgun or under center.

1095
00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:49,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, you may have a drop dead day or drop

1096
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:52,520
Speaker 2: dead period week in your mind of like, hey, if

1097
00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:54,400
Speaker 2: we're going to bring anybody in that we think is

1098
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:56,160
Speaker 2: going to make the fifty three, we need to do

1099
00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:58,800
Speaker 2: it by this day so that they have an adequate

1100
00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:02,360
Speaker 2: amount of time on the practice field within this offense

1101
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:05,719
Speaker 2: or within this defense, whoever that may be. We had

1102
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:08,560
Speaker 2: case Keenum last year. He's no longer a backup quarterback,

1103
00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:10,759
Speaker 2: So maybe the Bills go year to year with the

1104
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:13,440
Speaker 2: position like this, or maybe they invest in the future

1105
00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:17,160
Speaker 2: in a backup quarterback via the NFL drafted. It can't

1106
00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:20,239
Speaker 2: hurt to always look at quarterbacks in the draft as

1107
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:23,759
Speaker 2: a backup position because you can also use that as

1108
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:28,200
Speaker 2: ammo later when it comes to thinking about trading players

1109
00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:32,200
Speaker 2: if you get a guy who other teams may want

1110
00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:36,000
Speaker 2: on their roster later on, when if quarterbacks get injured

1111
00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:38,759
Speaker 2: or backup quarterbacks get injured, and you have somebody on

1112
00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:42,000
Speaker 2: your roster that you could trade away. They did that

1113
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:45,239
Speaker 2: in the draft a few years ago with the quarterback,

1114
00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:46,120
Speaker 2: so who knows.

1115
00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:47,520
Speaker 5: If they could do that again.

1116
00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:49,400
Speaker 2: I mean, I think we all felt the best when

1117
00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:53,640
Speaker 2: we had Mitch Trubisky as their backup quarterback because he

1118
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:58,120
Speaker 2: had lots of time as a starting quarterback. Yes, as

1119
00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:01,880
Speaker 2: a younger starting quarterback, but he probably fit the system

1120
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:05,359
Speaker 2: here really well because I think you look at both

1121
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:08,880
Speaker 2: of Josh Allen and Mitch Drubisky, not calling Mitch Trubisky

1122
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:11,320
Speaker 2: Josh Allen, but he was the type of quarterback I

1123
00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:14,440
Speaker 2: think who could come in and act like Josh Allen

1124
00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:17,319
Speaker 2: in a lot of ways in his ability to throw

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00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:20,839
Speaker 2: the football but also run when needed. All Right, we've

1126
00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:23,920
Speaker 2: got our Friday fan mail bag for you, so let's

1127
00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:27,320
Speaker 2: get into it right away. It's presented by Corgan Moving Systems,

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1129
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Speaker 5: And Andrew has our first question for us.

1130
00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:35,080
Speaker 2: He says, are we going to be able to see

1131
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:38,319
Speaker 2: Damien Harris in tomorrow's game? What's the story with him lately?

1132
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:41,320
Speaker 2: I know he's been injured, but how serious is this injury?

1133
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:42,080
Speaker 5: So Damien here.

1134
00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:44,400
Speaker 2: Has missed a little bit of time in practice, I

1135
00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:47,160
Speaker 2: don't think it's serious at all because he has been

1136
00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:49,560
Speaker 2: back on the practice field. I would assume we see

1137
00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:53,239
Speaker 2: him in tomorrow's game. So I think he gets it,

1138
00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:56,960
Speaker 2: gets a good opportunity against the Chicago Bears. I want

1139
00:56:57,000 --> 00:56:59,279
Speaker 2: to see what he can do in a preseason game.

1140
00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:01,279
Speaker 2: He's going to play on this offense, Just like we

1141
00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:04,560
Speaker 2: said with Latavius Murray. I think Damian Harris will play

1142
00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:07,920
Speaker 2: some sort of role on this offense. We know James

1143
00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:10,080
Speaker 2: Cook will have a big role as well. But you

1144
00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:13,160
Speaker 2: wonder how they're gonna use three total running backs within

1145
00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:16,680
Speaker 2: this offense. I think they each provide something different. I

1146
00:57:16,680 --> 00:57:19,040
Speaker 2: think James Cook is definitely a different running back when

1147
00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:22,840
Speaker 2: you compare him to Damian Harris and Latavius Murray. Damian

1148
00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:26,320
Speaker 2: Harris and Latavius Murray are two guys who can be

1149
00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:29,720
Speaker 2: used in short yardage situations, and Chris, I know, we've

1150
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:32,200
Speaker 2: had this conversation of what they've been able to do

1151
00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:34,720
Speaker 2: once you get inside the red zoner or once you

1152
00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:37,040
Speaker 2: get into situations where you just need a couple of

1153
00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:40,400
Speaker 2: yards here or there. Those are two good options that

1154
00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:43,160
Speaker 2: the Bills have in their running backs. So I believe

1155
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:45,920
Speaker 2: Damian Harris will be in there tomorrow against the Chicago Bears.

1156
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:47,560
Speaker 2: We'll see how many snaps he gets.

1157
00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:51,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean to your point, I want to see

1158
00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:55,960
Speaker 4: Damien Harris and Latavius Murray in those goal to go situations,

1159
00:57:56,040 --> 00:57:57,640
Speaker 4: in short yardage situations.

1160
00:57:58,440 --> 00:57:59,800
Speaker 3: I just saw, like last.

1161
00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:03,640
Speaker 4: Week, war and Sharp of Fox Sports tweeted out something

1162
00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:06,080
Speaker 4: really interesting that the Bills and the Chiefs in terms

1163
00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:08,600
Speaker 4: of their offense. Every kind of metric you look at,

1164
00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:12,480
Speaker 4: efficiency moving the ball, first down rate, they've been the

1165
00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:15,960
Speaker 4: two best offenses in the entire NFL since the Josh

1166
00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:21,040
Speaker 4: Allen seismic breakout in twenty twenty. The difference, which to me,

1167
00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:25,000
Speaker 4: there's two differences, but the difference that he was pinpointing

1168
00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:28,080
Speaker 4: was the red zone efficiency and that we always see

1169
00:58:28,120 --> 00:58:30,520
Speaker 4: the Chiefs are doing all these crazy formations and Patrick

1170
00:58:30,600 --> 00:58:33,919
Speaker 4: mahomes is thrown it underhand and Travis Kelcey's under center,

1171
00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:36,000
Speaker 4: then emotions out. The Bills were one of the worst

1172
00:58:36,080 --> 00:58:39,240
Speaker 4: teams in red zone in tight red zone efficiency rate,

1173
00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:42,320
Speaker 4: the Chiefs were the best. So if suddenly you're not

1174
00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:44,280
Speaker 4: having that obvious, hey, this is going to be a

1175
00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:48,080
Speaker 4: quarterback draw with Josh Allen or quarterback power to the outside,

1176
00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:51,919
Speaker 4: and you can just literally have your franchise quarterback turn

1177
00:58:51,960 --> 00:58:53,920
Speaker 4: around and hand the ball off to players who are

1178
00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:56,240
Speaker 4: going to be efficient and punch the ball in to

1179
00:58:56,360 --> 00:58:59,920
Speaker 4: the end zone. In Damian Harris and Latavius Murray. Huge

1180
00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:01,640
Speaker 4: for the offense because we know the.

1181
00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:04,080
Speaker 3: Bills are going to move the football as well as

1182
00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:05,040
Speaker 3: any offense.

1183
00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:05,360
Speaker 6: In the NFL.

1184
00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:09,400
Speaker 2: Damien Harris's first day back at practice was August sixteenth,

1185
00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:12,280
Speaker 2: so he's had a few full practices out there. So

1186
00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:14,360
Speaker 2: I would imagine that he'll be a part of the

1187
00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:16,840
Speaker 2: game plan tomorrow against the Bears. It was a knee

1188
00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:19,920
Speaker 2: injury for Damian Harris that held him out of practice

1189
00:59:20,560 --> 00:59:22,760
Speaker 2: for a few practices. I think, I want to say

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Speaker 2: it was about a week or more than a week.

1191
00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:26,640
Speaker 2: I can't remember exactly because there's been quite a few

1192
00:59:26,680 --> 00:59:28,920
Speaker 2: guys who have been in and out of the lineup already.

1193
00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:32,560
Speaker 2: Connor has a question, He says, what do each of

1194
00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:34,880
Speaker 2: you who do each of you think could be the

1195
00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:38,920
Speaker 2: dark horse to make the fifty three man roster this season? Chris,

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00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:40,920
Speaker 2: do you have a name that you're thinking of that

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00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:42,120
Speaker 2: could be a dark horse here?

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00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:43,360
Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 4: Kingsley Jonathan, the edge rusher from Syracuse. The Bills really

1200
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:49,960
Speaker 4: like him. He was an undrafted free agent a year

1201
00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:53,680
Speaker 4: ago but actually flashed as kind of that stand up

1202
00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:57,040
Speaker 4: outside rusher, kind of in a von Miller type mole. Now,

1203
00:59:57,040 --> 00:59:59,360
Speaker 4: he's not as explosive as von Miller or as powerful,

1204
00:59:59,360 --> 01:00:02,960
Speaker 4: and certainly not as as established as von Miller, but

1205
01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:04,720
Speaker 4: he's that type of player that can be a pass

1206
01:00:04,800 --> 01:00:09,200
Speaker 4: rush specialist. And ironically he played against Chicago in that

1207
01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:13,840
Speaker 4: frigid game inside Soldier Field late last season and played well,

1208
01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:16,040
Speaker 4: made a couple of plays on the edge, setting a

1209
01:00:16,080 --> 01:00:18,000
Speaker 4: sturdy of your edge, and I was expecting him to.

1210
01:00:18,040 --> 01:00:20,520
Speaker 4: In the run game, got some pressure on justin Field,

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Speaker 4: so maybe.

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Speaker 3: He could do that again.

1213
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Speaker 4: With von Miller's status still being up in the air.

1214
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Speaker 4: You talked about it early at the outside of the

1215
01:00:27,720 --> 01:00:30,640
Speaker 4: show that how many defensive ends will they keep? How

1216
01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:33,560
Speaker 4: many defensive linemen in total, and will there be one

1217
01:00:33,720 --> 01:00:37,520
Speaker 4: extra with von Miller maybe not fully ready for Week

1218
01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:39,880
Speaker 4: one or the Bills just kind of sticking with their

1219
01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:43,480
Speaker 4: philosophy of being very precautionary with injuries. Kingsley Jonathan is

1220
01:00:43,520 --> 01:00:45,400
Speaker 4: a player I think actually has a fair amount of

1221
01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:48,400
Speaker 4: upside because of his ability to bend the corner and

1222
01:00:48,440 --> 01:00:50,600
Speaker 4: his acceleration when he's rushing the passer.

1223
01:00:50,720 --> 01:00:53,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, who's He's somebody who started playing football at a

1224
01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:56,440
Speaker 2: later age. I did a feature story on him, so

1225
01:00:56,480 --> 01:00:58,880
Speaker 2: if you haven't checked it out, had to Buffalo Bills

1226
01:00:58,920 --> 01:01:02,120
Speaker 2: dot com. He came over here from Nigeria when he

1227
01:01:02,200 --> 01:01:04,640
Speaker 2: was in high school. He originally came over to the

1228
01:01:04,760 --> 01:01:07,840
Speaker 2: United States because he thought he had a future in basketball.

1229
01:01:08,080 --> 01:01:10,800
Speaker 2: That quickly changed to football and he kind of rose

1230
01:01:10,880 --> 01:01:13,480
Speaker 2: up the ranks with what he was able to do

1231
01:01:13,560 --> 01:01:16,240
Speaker 2: on the football field. He enjoyed just going after people

1232
01:01:16,280 --> 01:01:19,800
Speaker 2: and tackling people. He had fourteen sacks in his final

1233
01:01:20,200 --> 01:01:22,320
Speaker 2: in his final season in high school, I want to

1234
01:01:22,320 --> 01:01:25,360
Speaker 2: say it was fourteen or fifteen. And then Syracuse came

1235
01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:28,240
Speaker 2: calling for him to play. Went to Syracuse, had a

1236
01:01:28,240 --> 01:01:30,680
Speaker 2: good showing there, and I talked to Brandon Bean for

1237
01:01:30,720 --> 01:01:32,520
Speaker 2: the feature story. I said, you know, why did you

1238
01:01:32,560 --> 01:01:35,040
Speaker 2: want to give a guy like Kingsley Jonathan, who doesn't

1239
01:01:35,080 --> 01:01:38,400
Speaker 2: have too much of a background in the game, Why

1240
01:01:38,440 --> 01:01:40,960
Speaker 2: did you want to give him a shot? And Brandon

1241
01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:43,400
Speaker 2: Bean said, well, what we were able to see, kind

1242
01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:45,920
Speaker 2: of the rawness that we saw from him, we thought

1243
01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:48,160
Speaker 2: that he would be a good fit for our system

1244
01:01:48,400 --> 01:01:50,800
Speaker 2: if we could coach him up got He's got size,

1245
01:01:50,840 --> 01:01:54,240
Speaker 2: and he's got speed, and he's got upside things that

1246
01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:56,800
Speaker 2: you can't teach. So they thought, if we can get

1247
01:01:56,880 --> 01:01:59,400
Speaker 2: him in here and teach him this defense and teach

1248
01:01:59,480 --> 01:02:02,400
Speaker 2: him some other things, some moves, then maybe he can

1249
01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:05,200
Speaker 2: be a good fit for our roster. One player that

1250
01:02:05,320 --> 01:02:07,560
Speaker 2: I'm looking at. I don't know if this is a

1251
01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:10,600
Speaker 2: dark horse. This is more of a game of how

1252
01:02:10,640 --> 01:02:12,600
Speaker 2: many guys are they going to keep in this room?

1253
01:02:12,640 --> 01:02:14,480
Speaker 2: And could this be one of the guys that they

1254
01:02:14,560 --> 01:02:18,360
Speaker 2: keep in this room? Is the defensive backs position. So

1255
01:02:18,440 --> 01:02:21,160
Speaker 2: if you look at a roster card, I'll just show

1256
01:02:21,160 --> 01:02:24,600
Speaker 2: it up here. So defensive backs are grouped together, not

1257
01:02:24,840 --> 01:02:27,560
Speaker 2: cornerbacks and safeties. I know that's not how they are

1258
01:02:27,640 --> 01:02:30,439
Speaker 2: on the roster on Buffalo Bills dot Com. But there's

1259
01:02:30,560 --> 01:02:34,560
Speaker 2: seventeen defensive backs. How many do you keep? That's a

1260
01:02:34,560 --> 01:02:36,720
Speaker 2: pretty big number that they have on their roster. They're

1261
01:02:36,760 --> 01:02:39,560
Speaker 2: gonna have to whittle that down. Cam Lewis, I think,

1262
01:02:39,640 --> 01:02:43,520
Speaker 2: is an interesting player here. He did miss some training

1263
01:02:43,560 --> 01:02:47,760
Speaker 2: camp practices with an injury, but before he got injured,

1264
01:02:48,120 --> 01:02:51,920
Speaker 2: he was in and out of several plays. And I

1265
01:02:51,920 --> 01:02:54,280
Speaker 2: mean in and out of I mean he was involved

1266
01:02:54,360 --> 01:02:56,360
Speaker 2: in quite a few plays. I did a lot of

1267
01:02:56,400 --> 01:02:59,120
Speaker 2: practice reports, at least when we were at Saint John Fisher,

1268
01:02:59,400 --> 01:03:01,560
Speaker 2: and he can up a lot in those as breaking

1269
01:03:01,640 --> 01:03:04,800
Speaker 2: up passes, as being involved in things, is being close

1270
01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:09,480
Speaker 2: to the ball, providing good coverage. He is also I

1271
01:03:09,480 --> 01:03:12,080
Speaker 2: think an interesting player on this roster because he does

1272
01:03:12,480 --> 01:03:17,640
Speaker 2: he provides position versatility. He's a cornerback type safety guy,

1273
01:03:17,760 --> 01:03:20,920
Speaker 2: so he can do both. We've seen him at the

1274
01:03:20,920 --> 01:03:24,080
Speaker 2: safety spot and at the cornerback spot. I don't know

1275
01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:26,840
Speaker 2: if you would necessarily give him an exact spot. I

1276
01:03:26,840 --> 01:03:28,680
Speaker 2: think we've seen him him do quite a bit of

1277
01:03:28,720 --> 01:03:33,680
Speaker 2: safety here in training camp and line up in.

1278
01:03:33,640 --> 01:03:34,800
Speaker 5: That slot spot as well.

1279
01:03:34,920 --> 01:03:39,160
Speaker 2: So he's somebody that can provide versatility to this defense.

1280
01:03:39,320 --> 01:03:42,600
Speaker 2: I think he's an aggressive player. He's got some physicality

1281
01:03:42,680 --> 01:03:46,920
Speaker 2: to him, and he was somebody who stood out during practices,

1282
01:03:48,440 --> 01:03:50,640
Speaker 2: not as much as of late. I know he's been

1283
01:03:50,840 --> 01:03:54,160
Speaker 2: he was injured, he's now back in practices, he's been

1284
01:03:54,200 --> 01:03:57,400
Speaker 2: involved in things since he's been back. So I think

1285
01:03:57,480 --> 01:03:59,800
Speaker 2: that's a player that I look at a little bit

1286
01:03:59,800 --> 01:04:02,840
Speaker 2: and wonder what his future is. He's a he's a

1287
01:04:02,880 --> 01:04:07,680
Speaker 2: Buffalo kid, played at the University of Buffalo, so they've

1288
01:04:07,720 --> 01:04:10,000
Speaker 2: had him on this team here a few years now.

1289
01:04:10,320 --> 01:04:13,640
Speaker 2: He has had injuries in the past, but I think

1290
01:04:13,680 --> 01:04:16,920
Speaker 2: he's somebody who who could be one of those last

1291
01:04:16,920 --> 01:04:19,360
Speaker 2: few in on the final fifty three, depending on the

1292
01:04:19,440 --> 01:04:23,000
Speaker 2: number of guys that you want in that defensive backs room.

1293
01:04:24,560 --> 01:04:27,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think he would certainly be categorized as a

1294
01:04:27,880 --> 01:04:30,240
Speaker 4: dark horse because there's just so many people like you're

1295
01:04:30,240 --> 01:04:34,200
Speaker 4: mentioning it will really be a numbers game. Beyond the versatility,

1296
01:04:34,200 --> 01:04:35,920
Speaker 4: which is what I was going to mention if you didn't,

1297
01:04:36,640 --> 01:04:38,320
Speaker 4: is the fact that cam Lewis got a fair amount

1298
01:04:38,320 --> 01:04:40,120
Speaker 4: of playing time last year. So he's not someone that's

1299
01:04:40,200 --> 01:04:42,920
Speaker 4: just they like, there's upside, but we've barely seen him

1300
01:04:42,960 --> 01:04:45,200
Speaker 4: with all the injuries at the safety and cornerback spot

1301
01:04:45,280 --> 01:04:47,040
Speaker 4: last season. Cam Lewis played a lot of football, I

1302
01:04:47,080 --> 01:04:50,440
Speaker 4: mean fame or infamously didn't break up that pass on

1303
01:04:50,640 --> 01:04:53,280
Speaker 4: Justin Jefferson's catch of the year in the Vikings game.

1304
01:04:53,640 --> 01:04:55,600
Speaker 4: But there are some times, and that you mentioned his

1305
01:04:55,680 --> 01:04:59,000
Speaker 4: physicality where he gives you like vibes of Taron Johnson

1306
01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:01,040
Speaker 4: that he's so small. Well, but he will come up

1307
01:05:01,080 --> 01:05:04,440
Speaker 4: there in the box, attack downhill as a blitzer, had

1308
01:05:04,440 --> 01:05:06,800
Speaker 4: a couple of tackles for loss last season, or right

1309
01:05:06,920 --> 01:05:09,080
Speaker 4: near the line of scrimmage where he's just throwing his

1310
01:05:09,160 --> 01:05:11,680
Speaker 4: body around and is unafraid to be among all those

1311
01:05:11,680 --> 01:05:16,120
Speaker 4: three hundred plus pounders along the offensive line. So versatility, experience,

1312
01:05:16,200 --> 01:05:18,280
Speaker 4: and knowledge of the system I think are three things

1313
01:05:18,280 --> 01:05:21,120
Speaker 4: that cam Lewis has very much going for him entering

1314
01:05:21,200 --> 01:05:22,840
Speaker 4: these final cuts next Tuesday.

1315
01:05:22,920 --> 01:05:26,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, He was an undrafted kid who got onto the

1316
01:05:26,240 --> 01:05:29,680
Speaker 2: Bills in twenty twenty was his first season with this team.

1317
01:05:30,080 --> 01:05:32,880
Speaker 2: Since then, he's played in twenty five games and started

1318
01:05:33,120 --> 01:05:36,320
Speaker 2: in four. He played in thirteen games last year. Does

1319
01:05:36,360 --> 01:05:38,720
Speaker 2: play a role on special teams as well, and if

1320
01:05:38,720 --> 01:05:41,480
Speaker 2: you look at the depth chart on Buffalo Bills dot com,

1321
01:05:42,320 --> 01:05:45,040
Speaker 2: he is listed as a safety and he is on

1322
01:05:45,080 --> 01:05:48,480
Speaker 2: the second team. Him and Damar Hamlin are right next

1323
01:05:48,480 --> 01:05:52,920
Speaker 2: to each other for that second team spot behind Micah Hyde.

1324
01:05:53,280 --> 01:05:56,120
Speaker 2: So you wonder do they keep four safeties? You're definitely

1325
01:05:56,160 --> 01:05:59,120
Speaker 2: gonna keep Micah Hyde and Jordan Poyer and Taylor Rapp.

1326
01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:02,320
Speaker 2: Are you going to keep three or four at the

1327
01:06:02,360 --> 01:06:05,480
Speaker 2: position group? How many are you going to keep at

1328
01:06:05,480 --> 01:06:09,240
Speaker 2: that cornerback spot? How many slot corners nickel corners do you.

1329
01:06:09,200 --> 01:06:10,280
Speaker 5: Need on this roster?

1330
01:06:10,520 --> 01:06:13,120
Speaker 2: How many backup options do you need there? Tarren Johnson

1331
01:06:13,160 --> 01:06:15,200
Speaker 2: is definitely going to be on this team. Saran Neil

1332
01:06:15,400 --> 01:06:18,120
Speaker 2: has provided some really great depth for this team over

1333
01:06:18,160 --> 01:06:21,760
Speaker 2: the years that he's been on this roster. So again,

1334
01:06:21,800 --> 01:06:24,040
Speaker 2: you can play this game of how many guys are

1335
01:06:24,040 --> 01:06:27,080
Speaker 2: going to make it at each position group, and you

1336
01:06:27,120 --> 01:06:29,280
Speaker 2: can make case for a lot of guys I think

1337
01:06:29,320 --> 01:06:31,280
Speaker 2: because of what they've been able to do in training

1338
01:06:31,320 --> 01:06:35,600
Speaker 2: camp on this team in previous seasons as well. Let's

1339
01:06:35,640 --> 01:06:39,240
Speaker 2: go back to the phone lines. Steve from Syracuse has

1340
01:06:39,280 --> 01:06:42,320
Speaker 2: been hanging on for a bit, so Steve will welcome

1341
01:06:42,400 --> 01:06:42,720
Speaker 2: you on.

1342
01:06:43,640 --> 01:06:47,320
Speaker 7: How are you doing, Steve good? Thanks for taking my call.

1343
01:06:47,480 --> 01:06:49,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, of course, what question do you have for us?

1344
01:06:49,800 --> 01:06:52,680
Speaker 7: Well, what I am on. Since the beginning of the year,

1345
01:06:53,000 --> 01:06:56,320
Speaker 7: I've been saying that we need a middle linebacker. We

1346
01:06:56,480 --> 01:06:58,919
Speaker 7: have all season here now to get one. We haven't

1347
01:06:58,960 --> 01:07:02,040
Speaker 7: done anything. And the ones we have they're in doubt.

1348
01:07:02,040 --> 01:07:05,040
Speaker 7: I know they're qualified to play, they can play, but

1349
01:07:05,200 --> 01:07:08,120
Speaker 7: at this stage of the game, if you run unstain

1350
01:07:08,280 --> 01:07:11,320
Speaker 7: certain about the middle linebacker right now, you better go

1351
01:07:11,360 --> 01:07:13,680
Speaker 7: out and get one because you want to take a chance,

1352
01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:16,000
Speaker 7: and you got a couple down there Tampa Bay can

1353
01:07:16,000 --> 01:07:18,920
Speaker 7: make a trade for get them in here and settle

1354
01:07:18,920 --> 01:07:22,880
Speaker 7: that position, because that's very important. Middle linebacker has got

1355
01:07:22,920 --> 01:07:25,400
Speaker 7: to have not only brown, but you have any intelligence.

1356
01:07:25,560 --> 01:07:27,880
Speaker 7: You got to call signals and everything else. So if

1357
01:07:27,880 --> 01:07:29,640
Speaker 7: you get somebody like that in here, you're don't have

1358
01:07:29,680 --> 01:07:31,240
Speaker 7: to worry about well it's too late. It won't be

1359
01:07:31,280 --> 01:07:33,880
Speaker 7: too late for an experienced linebacker to come in. But

1360
01:07:33,920 --> 01:07:35,240
Speaker 7: you're not going to go out and just get a

1361
01:07:35,240 --> 01:07:37,640
Speaker 7: free agent any place or anything like that. It's not

1362
01:07:37,680 --> 01:07:40,800
Speaker 7: going to work, you know. But I really think that

1363
01:07:40,880 --> 01:07:43,600
Speaker 7: should be done. I don't know if you can do

1364
01:07:43,640 --> 01:07:45,920
Speaker 7: it yet. They can do it yet, but because I

1365
01:07:45,960 --> 01:07:47,640
Speaker 7: know they've got some people that are going to free up,

1366
01:07:47,680 --> 01:07:50,880
Speaker 7: there are work draft choices or trade bait because we

1367
01:07:51,000 --> 01:07:53,800
Speaker 7: got good We got good depth almost every position now,

1368
01:07:53,840 --> 01:07:56,920
Speaker 7: we really do. And there's differences here and there, but

1369
01:07:57,040 --> 01:08:01,640
Speaker 7: overall we got good depth except middle linebacker. We got

1370
01:08:01,640 --> 01:08:03,640
Speaker 7: to him that guy in the middle linebacker and knows

1371
01:08:03,680 --> 01:08:04,800
Speaker 7: what Tyl he's doing out there.

1372
01:08:06,480 --> 01:08:07,760
Speaker 5: Yes, Steve, thanks for the calls.

1373
01:08:07,840 --> 01:08:08,040
Speaker 3: Team.

1374
01:08:08,760 --> 01:08:10,520
Speaker 2: It's a good it's a there's a couple of good

1375
01:08:10,520 --> 01:08:15,280
Speaker 2: points there. I mean, I think this this position battle,

1376
01:08:15,520 --> 01:08:17,640
Speaker 2: there's been a little bit of a wrench thrown in

1377
01:08:17,680 --> 01:08:20,599
Speaker 2: it because of the fact that Trell Bernard hasn't been

1378
01:08:20,960 --> 01:08:23,559
Speaker 2: a part of the lineup, a part of practices, a

1379
01:08:23,560 --> 01:08:26,680
Speaker 2: part of preseason games, because he's been dealing with that

1380
01:08:26,760 --> 01:08:30,519
Speaker 2: hamstring injury. I don't know what his timetable is. I

1381
01:08:30,520 --> 01:08:32,240
Speaker 2: don't know when he's going to get back on the field.

1382
01:08:32,360 --> 01:08:35,160
Speaker 2: I don't know how how serious it is. He has

1383
01:08:35,240 --> 01:08:38,040
Speaker 2: been working off to the side during practices, so he's

1384
01:08:38,120 --> 01:08:42,000
Speaker 2: been out there with the team that that is a

1385
01:08:42,000 --> 01:08:45,000
Speaker 2: good sign that he's at least been out on the

1386
01:08:45,040 --> 01:08:48,240
Speaker 2: field when the team is practicing. He hasn't been in practices,

1387
01:08:48,880 --> 01:08:51,680
Speaker 2: but he's been doing things off to the side on

1388
01:08:51,760 --> 01:08:57,120
Speaker 2: the bike, those sort of things. So this coaching staff

1389
01:08:57,160 --> 01:08:59,720
Speaker 2: probably was was hoping that this wasn't going to be

1390
01:08:59,720 --> 01:09:01,439
Speaker 2: the case. But I don't know if they've been able

1391
01:09:01,479 --> 01:09:04,800
Speaker 2: to truly see what they have wanted out of the

1392
01:09:04,840 --> 01:09:08,240
Speaker 2: options because Trell Bernard has not been a part of

1393
01:09:08,280 --> 01:09:11,960
Speaker 2: that battle. Tyrell Dodson, AJ Klein, those are guys who

1394
01:09:11,960 --> 01:09:14,640
Speaker 2: have been on this roster for multiple seasons.

1395
01:09:14,760 --> 01:09:16,160
Speaker 5: AJ Klein is somebody.

1396
01:09:15,880 --> 01:09:20,600
Speaker 2: Who goes back to the Panthers days. He was a

1397
01:09:20,600 --> 01:09:23,040
Speaker 2: part of that team when Sean McDermott and Brandon Bean

1398
01:09:23,120 --> 01:09:24,760
Speaker 2: were over there. So they know what they have in

1399
01:09:24,840 --> 01:09:27,200
Speaker 2: a player like AJ Klein. He was kind of the

1400
01:09:27,280 --> 01:09:30,600
Speaker 2: fail safe option. When you talked about this competition in

1401
01:09:30,640 --> 01:09:35,040
Speaker 2: the beginning, it was Tyrell Dodson, Trell Bernard, Bayle Inspector,

1402
01:09:35,360 --> 01:09:37,639
Speaker 2: Dorian Williams, and AJ Klein.

1403
01:09:37,720 --> 01:09:39,439
Speaker 5: If they need to go there. Well, they have.

1404
01:09:39,680 --> 01:09:41,840
Speaker 2: They've had to go there because of Trell Bernard. Bayle

1405
01:09:41,920 --> 01:09:45,759
Speaker 2: inspector has kind of taken a back seat in that position.

1406
01:09:45,880 --> 01:09:50,679
Speaker 2: Battle talk and what we've been able to see through

1407
01:09:50,720 --> 01:09:54,120
Speaker 2: practices and through preseason games. Dorian Williams is a guy

1408
01:09:54,160 --> 01:09:56,280
Speaker 2: who they've said, you know, we're just gonna put him

1409
01:09:56,280 --> 01:09:58,439
Speaker 2: at that weak side spot right now and see what

1410
01:09:58,520 --> 01:10:01,080
Speaker 2: he can do and just have him learn the defense,

1411
01:10:01,120 --> 01:10:03,800
Speaker 2: because that's hard enough for rookie to do. We don't

1412
01:10:03,800 --> 01:10:06,280
Speaker 2: want to put this on his lap as well. But

1413
01:10:06,360 --> 01:10:10,040
Speaker 2: maybe we'll move him back to that MLB spot once

1414
01:10:10,080 --> 01:10:13,439
Speaker 2: he knows the defense. So you've got two options right

1415
01:10:13,479 --> 01:10:16,840
Speaker 2: now in Tyrell Dodson and AJ Cline. I think both

1416
01:10:16,880 --> 01:10:20,519
Speaker 2: of them can do the job at what level do

1417
01:10:20,560 --> 01:10:22,839
Speaker 2: you want to see? Are you waiting to see something

1418
01:10:22,880 --> 01:10:25,800
Speaker 2: out of these two against the Bears that is going

1419
01:10:25,880 --> 01:10:29,160
Speaker 2: to help your decision? Are they not going to make

1420
01:10:29,200 --> 01:10:33,000
Speaker 2: a decision until Terrell Bernard is healthy and able to

1421
01:10:33,520 --> 01:10:34,880
Speaker 2: kind of have a.

1422
01:10:34,880 --> 01:10:35,599
Speaker 5: Chance out there.

1423
01:10:35,760 --> 01:10:38,680
Speaker 2: We are getting closer to week one, so maybe they

1424
01:10:38,720 --> 01:10:41,559
Speaker 2: do go with a Tyrell Dodson or an AJ Cline.

1425
01:10:41,640 --> 01:10:44,479
Speaker 2: Because they've been on the practice field more, they've seen

1426
01:10:44,520 --> 01:10:47,920
Speaker 2: more time and reps and snaps in preseason games, or

1427
01:10:48,360 --> 01:10:52,160
Speaker 2: do you try and put together a trade here as

1428
01:10:52,320 --> 01:10:55,599
Speaker 2: we are figuring out who is going to be on

1429
01:10:55,640 --> 01:10:59,240
Speaker 2: this roster when there's only fifty three people on this roster.

1430
01:11:01,000 --> 01:11:04,920
Speaker 2: Like our caller said, there is depth on this roster.

1431
01:11:05,000 --> 01:11:08,320
Speaker 2: There are probably players on this roster, not probably, There

1432
01:11:08,320 --> 01:11:11,800
Speaker 2: are players on this roster who other teams probably have

1433
01:11:11,920 --> 01:11:14,360
Speaker 2: some interest in. Do you want to go there for

1434
01:11:14,560 --> 01:11:17,439
Speaker 2: a linebacker? Do you believe there's somebody out there if

1435
01:11:17,439 --> 01:11:20,120
Speaker 2: you don't think Tyrel Dodson and aj Klein are your

1436
01:11:20,160 --> 01:11:24,960
Speaker 2: guys that can pick up a defense that quickly. Again,

1437
01:11:25,200 --> 01:11:28,080
Speaker 2: the conversation that we've been having is are we too

1438
01:11:28,160 --> 01:11:30,920
Speaker 2: close to Week one to make a decision like that.

1439
01:11:31,040 --> 01:11:34,160
Speaker 2: I can't read Brandon Bean and Sean McDermott's mind, so

1440
01:11:34,240 --> 01:11:36,920
Speaker 2: I don't know where they stand on something like that.

1441
01:11:37,040 --> 01:11:39,559
Speaker 2: But I would think that we are getting pretty close

1442
01:11:40,479 --> 01:11:43,519
Speaker 2: to that drop dead window, that drop dead day that

1443
01:11:43,560 --> 01:11:45,559
Speaker 2: you want to have somebody in here if you're thinking

1444
01:11:45,600 --> 01:11:48,240
Speaker 2: that they could play a role on this team come

1445
01:11:48,320 --> 01:11:50,920
Speaker 2: Week one against New York Jets, who, by the way,

1446
01:11:50,960 --> 01:11:53,519
Speaker 2: I have Aaron Rodgers as their quarterback and have some

1447
01:11:53,560 --> 01:11:56,120
Speaker 2: pretty great offensive weapons that he could throw the ball to.

1448
01:11:58,560 --> 01:11:59,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I'll dissect this too.

1449
01:12:00,320 --> 01:12:03,800
Speaker 4: I think it's kind of funny and ironic that we

1450
01:12:03,800 --> 01:12:06,280
Speaker 4: were talking about backup quarterbacks with two other callers and

1451
01:12:06,320 --> 01:12:10,679
Speaker 4: this color XBO middle linebacker any other position. I think

1452
01:12:10,720 --> 01:12:14,000
Speaker 4: if you need help at running back, you can trade

1453
01:12:14,000 --> 01:12:16,880
Speaker 4: for a running back. They can learn the blocking scheme

1454
01:12:16,920 --> 01:12:21,840
Speaker 4: relatively easy, quickly in a hurry, right before even a

1455
01:12:21,880 --> 01:12:24,160
Speaker 4: few days out or maybe a week out from the

1456
01:12:24,200 --> 01:12:27,280
Speaker 4: start of your regular season game. But I think quarterback

1457
01:12:27,960 --> 01:12:31,000
Speaker 4: and middle linebacker, the one who are literally calling the

1458
01:12:31,000 --> 01:12:33,439
Speaker 4: plays on each side of the ball, that is a

1459
01:12:33,520 --> 01:12:36,880
Speaker 4: much longer learning curve to be acclimated to an offense.

1460
01:12:36,880 --> 01:12:39,880
Speaker 4: And that's all we've heard this summer from Sean McDermott,

1461
01:12:39,880 --> 01:12:41,960
Speaker 4: and was the reason why Dorian Williams was kind of

1462
01:12:41,960 --> 01:12:44,920
Speaker 4: pushed aside to the weak side linebacker spot was because

1463
01:12:45,360 --> 01:12:49,879
Speaker 4: he came from such a pretty elementary scheme at Tulane

1464
01:12:49,920 --> 01:12:52,120
Speaker 4: and wasn't able to grasp all the nuances of calling

1465
01:12:52,120 --> 01:12:53,879
Speaker 4: the plays like our caller mentioned.

1466
01:12:53,920 --> 01:12:55,360
Speaker 3: So I think even if you were to.

1467
01:12:55,320 --> 01:12:59,320
Speaker 4: Trade for a Lavante David or a Devin White, yes,

1468
01:12:59,320 --> 01:13:01,360
Speaker 4: they could be out there and they probably would be

1469
01:13:01,600 --> 01:13:04,320
Speaker 4: physically capable, but really what I think the Bills are

1470
01:13:04,320 --> 01:13:06,280
Speaker 4: more concerned about is the mental side of it and

1471
01:13:06,320 --> 01:13:09,040
Speaker 4: calling the plays and getting everyone lined up. The final

1472
01:13:09,080 --> 01:13:11,400
Speaker 4: point that I want to make on this though, I

1473
01:13:11,400 --> 01:13:14,040
Speaker 4: think almost Bills fans have gotten a little spoiled and

1474
01:13:14,920 --> 01:13:19,880
Speaker 4: because we've had, like in Buffalo, all pro linebackers, a

1475
01:13:19,920 --> 01:13:24,240
Speaker 4: great defensive line, and all pro corner all Pro safeties,

1476
01:13:24,439 --> 01:13:26,599
Speaker 4: there has to be a weak spot on each side

1477
01:13:26,640 --> 01:13:28,960
Speaker 4: of the ball, and the Chiefs don't have all pros

1478
01:13:29,000 --> 01:13:31,920
Speaker 4: on every single position of the field. You have a

1479
01:13:32,000 --> 01:13:34,800
Speaker 4: bunch of former first rounders on the defensive line, Von Miller,

1480
01:13:34,880 --> 01:13:39,719
Speaker 4: Leonard Floyd, and Oliver Gregory Russo you still have Matt Malana,

1481
01:13:39,760 --> 01:13:41,679
Speaker 4: who is an All Pro. I just mentioned Trey White

1482
01:13:41,680 --> 01:13:45,920
Speaker 4: being fully back Hoyer and Hyde that or that trio

1483
01:13:46,160 --> 01:13:48,320
Speaker 4: is back together for the first time since Thanksgiving of

1484
01:13:48,360 --> 01:13:49,120
Speaker 4: twenty twenty one.

1485
01:13:49,520 --> 01:13:50,639
Speaker 3: The Bills should still.

1486
01:13:50,400 --> 01:13:53,720
Speaker 4: Be able to make it work if they have, you know,

1487
01:13:53,880 --> 01:13:57,479
Speaker 4: a unproven player or someone that's not an all Pro

1488
01:13:57,520 --> 01:14:00,439
Speaker 4: caliber type next to Matt Milano, who again, by the way,

1489
01:14:00,520 --> 01:14:02,479
Speaker 4: is all Pro. Because if you look around the league,

1490
01:14:02,600 --> 01:14:05,720
Speaker 4: not every single team is just completely loaded.

1491
01:14:05,400 --> 01:14:09,080
Speaker 3: At every single spot, and the best teams, especially those

1492
01:14:09,120 --> 01:14:10,240
Speaker 3: with the best quarterbacks.

1493
01:14:10,479 --> 01:14:12,679
Speaker 4: Fortunately for the Bills they have one of them, can

1494
01:14:12,760 --> 01:14:14,880
Speaker 4: still make it work and win a lot more games

1495
01:14:14,880 --> 01:14:15,400
Speaker 4: than they lose.

1496
01:14:15,520 --> 01:14:18,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, do you need to all pro linebackers or are

1497
01:14:18,920 --> 01:14:20,440
Speaker 2: you just gonna be plus.

1498
01:14:20,160 --> 01:14:23,320
Speaker 4: The first round defensive line plus Jordan Poyer like it's

1499
01:14:23,360 --> 01:14:26,080
Speaker 4: almost asking for a little bit too much in today's NFL.

1500
01:14:26,160 --> 01:14:27,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, Or are you gonna be fine with Matt Milano?

1501
01:14:27,960 --> 01:14:31,320
Speaker 2: He's an incredible linebacker. Maybe the guy next to him

1502
01:14:31,360 --> 01:14:34,759
Speaker 2: can can play up to his caliber throughout the season

1503
01:14:34,880 --> 01:14:37,040
Speaker 2: as you get more time on task, as you get

1504
01:14:37,080 --> 01:14:40,400
Speaker 2: more playing opportunities. The other thing about that that conversation

1505
01:14:40,520 --> 01:14:43,880
Speaker 2: quick before we go to break bringing a guy in late,

1506
01:14:44,200 --> 01:14:47,120
Speaker 2: even if he's a big name. All we've heard from

1507
01:14:47,280 --> 01:14:49,120
Speaker 2: Sean McDermott, or one of the things that we've heard

1508
01:14:49,160 --> 01:14:51,400
Speaker 2: from Sean McDermott about what they're looking for in a

1509
01:14:51,439 --> 01:14:54,880
Speaker 2: middle linebacker is a true leader, somebody who can lead

1510
01:14:55,040 --> 01:14:57,400
Speaker 2: this team. Well, to lead a team, you got to

1511
01:14:57,520 --> 01:15:00,120
Speaker 2: know the guys that you're speaking to, the guys that

1512
01:15:00,160 --> 01:15:03,679
Speaker 2: you're bringing along with you. If you bring somebody new

1513
01:15:04,000 --> 01:15:06,320
Speaker 2: into the team and ask them to do that in.

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01:15:06,760 --> 01:15:08,680
Speaker 5: Two weeks, in three weeks, I.

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01:15:08,640 --> 01:15:11,719
Speaker 2: Don't know if that's enough time for somebody to evolve

1516
01:15:11,800 --> 01:15:14,400
Speaker 2: into a true leader on a new team. I know, yeah,

1517
01:15:14,640 --> 01:15:17,479
Speaker 2: big names are big names, and big names can be leaders,

1518
01:15:17,960 --> 01:15:20,519
Speaker 2: but that's pretty quick to get to know the guys

1519
01:15:20,600 --> 01:15:22,960
Speaker 2: in the locker room, a guy that you'd be giving

1520
01:15:22,960 --> 01:15:25,800
Speaker 2: the green dot to, or hopefully be giving the green

1521
01:15:25,840 --> 01:15:29,679
Speaker 2: dot to. So we don't have an answer there as

1522
01:15:29,720 --> 01:15:32,479
Speaker 2: to who's going to be the starter at that spot.

1523
01:15:32,600 --> 01:15:37,679
Speaker 2: Yet maybe maybe we see the answer on Saturday against

1524
01:15:37,720 --> 01:15:40,360
Speaker 2: the Bears. Maybe one of those guys really does pop

1525
01:15:40,439 --> 01:15:43,719
Speaker 2: and really does have a convincing performance to the point

1526
01:15:43,720 --> 01:15:46,920
Speaker 2: where this staff is able to say this is gonna

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01:15:46,920 --> 01:15:49,599
Speaker 2: be our guy. We'll see they take on the Bears

1528
01:15:49,640 --> 01:15:53,800
Speaker 2: tomorrow at one o'clock is your kick time. We're gonna

1529
01:15:53,800 --> 01:15:55,960
Speaker 2: take a break. When we come back, we're gonna talk

1530
01:15:56,000 --> 01:15:59,960
Speaker 2: to Mike Sando. He's a senior NFL writer for the Athletics.

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01:16:00,120 --> 01:16:00,799
Speaker 5: Got a couple.

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01:16:00,600 --> 01:16:03,760
Speaker 2: Interesting articles there, one about the strength of schedule, So.

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01:16:03,720 --> 01:16:05,840
Speaker 5: We'll get to all of that next. Here on one

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Speaker 5: Bill's Live, we're presented by Clyda Help.

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01:16:07,600 --> 01:16:14,840
Speaker 2: This is Buffalo Bills Radio.

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01:16:15,000 --> 01:16:17,599
Speaker 5: All right, welcome back into One Bills Live.

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01:16:17,680 --> 01:16:20,040
Speaker 2: We are now joined by our senior writer from the

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01:16:20,080 --> 01:16:21,519
Speaker 2: Athletic Mike Sando.

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01:16:22,080 --> 01:16:23,880
Speaker 5: He had a pretty cool article.

1540
01:16:23,520 --> 01:16:26,080
Speaker 2: Come out, so we want to get into that with Mike.

1541
01:16:26,120 --> 01:16:29,040
Speaker 2: But Mike, thanks for being on today. Thanks for joining us.

1542
01:16:29,160 --> 01:16:31,400
Speaker 2: As the Bills are just a few weeks away from

1543
01:16:31,479 --> 01:16:35,519
Speaker 2: their big Week one game against the New York Jets.

1544
01:16:35,560 --> 01:16:40,280
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers, that defense, that offense, all of those fun

1545
01:16:40,320 --> 01:16:43,519
Speaker 2: things that they're going to experience on September eleventh, Monday

1546
01:16:43,560 --> 01:16:44,000
Speaker 2: night game.

1547
01:16:45,680 --> 01:16:46,559
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's gonna be great.

1548
01:16:46,600 --> 01:16:48,679
Speaker 1: Can't wait for the regular season, although we'll take one

1549
01:16:48,720 --> 01:16:51,160
Speaker 1: more weekend I guess right to ourselves where we can

1550
01:16:51,200 --> 01:16:52,160
Speaker 1: hear a couple of better things.

1551
01:16:52,200 --> 01:16:53,920
Speaker 6: But then when we dive in, that's it.

1552
01:16:53,920 --> 01:16:58,000
Speaker 2: It doesn't wait for anybody exactly. So you released an

1553
01:16:58,120 --> 01:17:01,639
Speaker 2: article on August twenty third, and the article was about

1554
01:17:01,760 --> 01:17:04,920
Speaker 2: strength of schedule, which the Bills have in the last

1555
01:17:04,920 --> 01:17:07,360
Speaker 2: couple of years have had a tougher schedule. They do

1556
01:17:07,600 --> 01:17:11,800
Speaker 2: again this season. The AFC East teams definitely do, but

1557
01:17:11,960 --> 01:17:15,600
Speaker 2: this schedule Strength's Schedule article looks at the strength of

1558
01:17:15,680 --> 01:17:19,760
Speaker 2: schedule in the lens of the opposing quarterbacks that each

1559
01:17:19,840 --> 01:17:23,080
Speaker 2: team is going to face and you kind of ranked

1560
01:17:23,160 --> 01:17:26,519
Speaker 2: quarterbacks in different tiers Tier one, Tier two, Tier three,

1561
01:17:26,680 --> 01:17:30,360
Speaker 2: tier four, and you got those tiers from fifty NFL

1562
01:17:30,520 --> 01:17:35,320
Speaker 2: execs and coaches who voted on what quarterbacks, which quarterbacks

1563
01:17:35,320 --> 01:17:37,720
Speaker 2: should be in which tiers. I think that's really cool

1564
01:17:37,720 --> 01:17:41,519
Speaker 2: that you were able to get those tiers via NFL

1565
01:17:41,640 --> 01:17:44,360
Speaker 2: execs and NFL coaches.

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01:17:44,600 --> 01:17:46,960
Speaker 5: How was that? How did that process go for you?

1567
01:17:48,400 --> 01:17:50,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, so about a month ago I for the tenth time,

1568
01:17:50,680 --> 01:17:53,320
Speaker 1: tenth annual quarterback tiers came out, so you know, I

1569
01:17:53,439 --> 01:17:56,840
Speaker 1: spent a month or two talking to all those people

1570
01:17:56,880 --> 01:17:59,479
Speaker 1: in the league. I think we had maybe eight general

1571
01:17:59,520 --> 01:18:04,400
Speaker 1: manager There's ten head coaches, fifteen coordinators, so there's a

1572
01:18:04,439 --> 01:18:06,559
Speaker 1: lot of a lot of people that are decision makers.

1573
01:18:06,640 --> 01:18:08,560
Speaker 1: You know, while are watching the video, they know or

1574
01:18:08,600 --> 01:18:11,400
Speaker 1: they used to have opinions and reasoning on the different quarterbacks.

1575
01:18:11,400 --> 01:18:13,840
Speaker 1: So once we do that, like Patrick Mahomes would be

1576
01:18:13,920 --> 01:18:17,080
Speaker 1: unanimous Tier one. You know, I think Joe Burrow was

1577
01:18:17,120 --> 01:18:19,400
Speaker 1: all but one vote for Tier one. Josh Allen might

1578
01:18:19,439 --> 01:18:21,439
Speaker 1: have had three or four Tier two votes. Those would

1579
01:18:21,439 --> 01:18:24,639
Speaker 1: be her you know, the clear to Tier one guys.

1580
01:18:24,680 --> 01:18:28,479
Speaker 1: I think justin Herbert and Aaron Rodgers were a little lower,

1581
01:18:28,520 --> 01:18:30,840
Speaker 1: but still in tier one. So well, once you do

1582
01:18:30,880 --> 01:18:34,040
Speaker 1: that for all the quarterbacks, and then I don't have

1583
01:18:34,160 --> 01:18:36,920
Speaker 1: rookies in that poll because no one seen them. I usually,

1584
01:18:36,920 --> 01:18:39,080
Speaker 1: just for the purposes of this in the schedule, I

1585
01:18:39,160 --> 01:18:42,040
Speaker 1: just put them into tier four, which is probably reasonable

1586
01:18:42,439 --> 01:18:44,200
Speaker 1: coming out of the gates. And then we crunch the

1587
01:18:44,240 --> 01:18:46,720
Speaker 1: numbers on the schedule and you see, you know a

1588
01:18:46,720 --> 01:18:48,400
Speaker 1: lot of the teams that are in the AFC East

1589
01:18:48,600 --> 01:18:52,639
Speaker 1: have the toughest quarterback schedules, whereas teams from the NFC

1590
01:18:52,720 --> 01:18:54,760
Speaker 1: South would have the easiest just because of the nature

1591
01:18:54,760 --> 01:18:57,960
Speaker 1: of their divisions. But there's also you know, the scheduling

1592
01:18:58,000 --> 01:19:02,439
Speaker 1: rotation will match you with different divisions too, which can

1593
01:19:02,479 --> 01:19:05,360
Speaker 1: have a big influence on that. So you know, for

1594
01:19:05,400 --> 01:19:07,519
Speaker 1: the Bills, they get Mahomes and Burrow. I mean, that's

1595
01:19:07,520 --> 01:19:10,200
Speaker 1: the toughest combination you could get, right if you're on

1596
01:19:10,200 --> 01:19:12,759
Speaker 1: the Bill. If you're the Bills, they get Aaron Rodgers twice,

1597
01:19:12,800 --> 01:19:15,439
Speaker 1: they get Justin Herbert, they get Jalen Hurts, who was

1598
01:19:15,479 --> 01:19:18,439
Speaker 1: the top guy in Tier two, Trevor Lawrence, who a

1599
01:19:18,479 --> 01:19:20,160
Speaker 1: lot of people are tabbing to be Tier one in

1600
01:19:20,200 --> 01:19:24,439
Speaker 1: the future, that's a pretty you know, tough run of

1601
01:19:24,560 --> 01:19:28,839
Speaker 1: quarterbacks compared to a team like the Saints. Their toughest

1602
01:19:28,880 --> 01:19:32,599
Speaker 1: quarterback and is josh Or is Trevor Lawrence. And they're

1603
01:19:32,600 --> 01:19:36,040
Speaker 1: pretty quickly into the Kirk Cousins world on their list.

1604
01:19:36,120 --> 01:19:36,839
Speaker 6: So big difference.

1605
01:19:38,000 --> 01:19:41,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, So, Mike, for me, what really like stood out

1606
01:19:41,120 --> 01:19:44,360
Speaker 4: about the tiers individually and then how they kind of

1607
01:19:44,479 --> 01:19:48,160
Speaker 4: blend into the seasons or the schedules for all of

1608
01:19:48,160 --> 01:19:52,400
Speaker 4: these teams is Aaron Rodgers at four. And I'm not

1609
01:19:52,479 --> 01:19:54,960
Speaker 4: at all trying to say, you know, be disrespectful to

1610
01:19:55,000 --> 01:19:55,759
Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers.

1611
01:19:55,800 --> 01:19:57,759
Speaker 3: This is a Bills show. They're facing the Jets.

1612
01:19:58,000 --> 01:20:01,000
Speaker 4: But last year in Green Bay, do you think it

1613
01:20:01,040 --> 01:20:04,719
Speaker 4: was like those executives and the coordinators that you spoke

1614
01:20:04,760 --> 01:20:07,040
Speaker 4: to were just kind of putting one of his worst

1615
01:20:07,120 --> 01:20:11,400
Speaker 4: seasons as a starter on the you know, youthfulness at

1616
01:20:11,400 --> 01:20:14,960
Speaker 4: wide receiver, the defense not being quite as good, and

1617
01:20:15,120 --> 01:20:17,800
Speaker 4: the other one Tua Taka bai Looa at seventeen. I

1618
01:20:17,800 --> 01:20:21,920
Speaker 4: believe in Tier four, I'm personally not the biggest believer

1619
01:20:22,160 --> 01:20:24,719
Speaker 4: of Tua, but I thought that was just really stood

1620
01:20:24,720 --> 01:20:27,360
Speaker 4: out that he led the league in quarterback rating.

1621
01:20:27,360 --> 01:20:30,080
Speaker 3: And if we are looking at the situation.

1622
01:20:29,680 --> 01:20:32,000
Speaker 4: Around a quarterback and we're saying, all right, Aaron Rodgers

1623
01:20:32,040 --> 01:20:35,559
Speaker 4: has upgraded with Garrett Wilson and company, Tua still has

1624
01:20:35,640 --> 01:20:38,080
Speaker 4: the same high caliber weapons. Like, what do you think

1625
01:20:38,080 --> 01:20:41,840
Speaker 4: about that dichotomy within the af sast.

1626
01:20:41,439 --> 01:20:43,840
Speaker 1: Well, Number one, people in the league don't overreact on

1627
01:20:43,840 --> 01:20:46,200
Speaker 1: one game or one year. Aaron Rodgers has a long

1628
01:20:46,280 --> 01:20:48,439
Speaker 1: history of being a great player. He was obviously hurt

1629
01:20:48,520 --> 01:20:50,160
Speaker 1: last year and he was done. He was done with

1630
01:20:50,439 --> 01:20:53,680
Speaker 1: the Packers, so you know he had been before. The

1631
01:20:53,720 --> 01:20:55,519
Speaker 1: two years before he was the MVP of the league.

1632
01:20:55,520 --> 01:20:58,639
Speaker 1: He was unanimous Tier one. So twenty of the fifty voters,

1633
01:20:58,920 --> 01:21:01,040
Speaker 1: it's not the same voters year, but twenty of them

1634
01:21:01,040 --> 01:21:02,960
Speaker 1: put him in Tier two. So there is some allowance

1635
01:21:03,000 --> 01:21:05,120
Speaker 1: that he could be declining or there could be some

1636
01:21:05,240 --> 01:21:07,599
Speaker 1: question marks about him. I think a lot of people

1637
01:21:07,600 --> 01:21:09,360
Speaker 1: gave him the benefit of the doubt and think a

1638
01:21:09,439 --> 01:21:13,080
Speaker 1: change of scenery could do him fine. You know for

1639
01:21:13,160 --> 01:21:14,000
Speaker 1: at least a season.

1640
01:21:14,920 --> 01:21:15,799
Speaker 6: To people.

1641
01:21:16,160 --> 01:21:18,240
Speaker 1: You can definitely see the stats, but no one thinks

1642
01:21:18,320 --> 01:21:24,400
Speaker 1: that Tua is driving the success of the of the

1643
01:21:24,439 --> 01:21:26,920
Speaker 1: Dolphins to a degree that a Tier one quarterback like

1644
01:21:26,960 --> 01:21:31,479
Speaker 1: Mahomes drives the success of the Chiefs, and the reason

1645
01:21:31,520 --> 01:21:34,840
Speaker 1: for that is because when you watch to a play now,

1646
01:21:35,040 --> 01:21:36,720
Speaker 1: part of the reason he's lower is he doesn't play

1647
01:21:36,720 --> 01:21:38,680
Speaker 1: a lot of the games. That's a part of this too.

1648
01:21:38,720 --> 01:21:40,880
Speaker 1: You have to be able to play and make it

1649
01:21:40,920 --> 01:21:41,559
Speaker 1: through a season.

1650
01:21:41,680 --> 01:21:42,680
Speaker 6: But he is.

1651
01:21:44,360 --> 01:21:47,920
Speaker 1: You know, it's very schemed up. When he's on time

1652
01:21:48,080 --> 01:21:50,760
Speaker 1: and those great receivers are coming open. He throws as

1653
01:21:50,800 --> 01:21:53,519
Speaker 1: accurate of a ball as anybody, but when it gets

1654
01:21:53,520 --> 01:21:55,920
Speaker 1: disrupted and you have to do more, which we saw

1655
01:21:55,920 --> 01:21:57,439
Speaker 1: a little bit later in the year, and people think

1656
01:21:57,479 --> 01:21:59,280
Speaker 1: they're going to see a little more as people.

1657
01:21:59,040 --> 01:22:00,799
Speaker 6: Get better prepared for this offense.

1658
01:22:01,520 --> 01:22:04,559
Speaker 1: He's not somebody then who's gonna fare well, right if

1659
01:22:04,560 --> 01:22:07,400
Speaker 1: it's great around him. It's kind of like if you're

1660
01:22:07,439 --> 01:22:10,479
Speaker 1: in the if you're in the gym shooting free throws

1661
01:22:10,479 --> 01:22:12,880
Speaker 1: and there's no one there, like you can get into

1662
01:22:12,920 --> 01:22:15,240
Speaker 1: a rhythm where you might make twenty in a row,

1663
01:22:15,600 --> 01:22:18,559
Speaker 1: but when it's you know, when you're tired and it's

1664
01:22:18,560 --> 01:22:20,800
Speaker 1: game seven, the stands are filled. Not everybody makes the

1665
01:22:20,840 --> 01:22:22,639
Speaker 1: same amount of free throws. And I think people feel

1666
01:22:22,680 --> 01:22:25,120
Speaker 1: like with Tua, there's a lot of things around him

1667
01:22:25,400 --> 01:22:27,439
Speaker 1: that are making it easier for him a little bit

1668
01:22:27,520 --> 01:22:32,719
Speaker 1: like in San Francisco, Jimmy Garoppolo, he's an eighty percent winner. Yeah,

1669
01:22:32,760 --> 01:22:35,120
Speaker 1: but people kind of know how it is, how it's

1670
01:22:35,120 --> 01:22:37,200
Speaker 1: schemed up for him, and he's not really driving it

1671
01:22:37,200 --> 01:22:40,760
Speaker 1: the way. You know, somebody else says, who's our tier

1672
01:22:40,840 --> 01:22:41,439
Speaker 1: one quarterback?

1673
01:22:41,840 --> 01:22:44,320
Speaker 2: So according to this list, the Miami Dolphins have the

1674
01:22:44,439 --> 01:22:47,280
Speaker 2: toughest schedule. They will face a Tier one or Tier

1675
01:22:47,320 --> 01:22:51,160
Speaker 2: two quarterback nine times. The Buffalo Bills number four on

1676
01:22:51,200 --> 01:22:53,400
Speaker 2: that list, they will face a Tier one or Tier

1677
01:22:53,400 --> 01:22:59,360
Speaker 2: two quarterback eight total times. Patriots number two, Chiefs number three, Mike.

1678
01:22:59,479 --> 01:23:02,320
Speaker 2: Was there a quarterback that you were surprised by the

1679
01:23:02,360 --> 01:23:05,360
Speaker 2: tier he got put in based on the NFL execs

1680
01:23:05,400 --> 01:23:06,360
Speaker 2: and coaches votes.

1681
01:23:07,760 --> 01:23:09,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, Kirk Cousins rose into the bottom of

1682
01:23:09,840 --> 01:23:12,479
Speaker 1: Tier two. He's always kind of been top of Tier three.

1683
01:23:12,560 --> 01:23:14,360
Speaker 1: That was just a little bit of a surprise. I

1684
01:23:14,400 --> 01:23:17,960
Speaker 1: know they had a good season. I thought that the

1685
01:23:18,040 --> 01:23:21,400
Speaker 1: voters were a little kinder to Matthew Stafford and Kyler Murray,

1686
01:23:22,439 --> 01:23:24,360
Speaker 1: a couple guys who've been injured. I think there's been

1687
01:23:24,360 --> 01:23:26,320
Speaker 1: a lot of people have kind of dumped on Kyler Murray.

1688
01:23:26,400 --> 01:23:29,080
Speaker 1: He held he fell, but he was still top of

1689
01:23:29,120 --> 01:23:32,240
Speaker 1: tier three. And then I think brock Purdy was somebody

1690
01:23:32,280 --> 01:23:34,320
Speaker 1: that a lot of people thought might rise higher than

1691
01:23:34,360 --> 01:23:36,639
Speaker 1: he did. You know, he only had the seven stars.

1692
01:23:36,680 --> 01:23:39,599
Speaker 1: People kind of left him top of tier four. He's

1693
01:23:39,680 --> 01:23:42,320
Speaker 1: right between tier three and tier four. So I think

1694
01:23:42,360 --> 01:23:44,920
Speaker 1: it just shows that in this poll, in this survey,

1695
01:23:45,360 --> 01:23:47,519
Speaker 1: people want to see it right, they want to see

1696
01:23:47,520 --> 01:23:50,519
Speaker 1: it over time. They're not going to just suddenly move

1697
01:23:50,600 --> 01:23:53,400
Speaker 1: somebody three tiers, you know, in one because they had

1698
01:23:53,400 --> 01:23:55,599
Speaker 1: one good off season or one good season or one

1699
01:23:55,640 --> 01:23:56,479
Speaker 1: really bad season.

1700
01:23:57,720 --> 01:23:58,080
Speaker 3: All right.

1701
01:23:58,080 --> 01:24:00,160
Speaker 4: Next question I have for you, Mike, is so, oh,

1702
01:24:00,200 --> 01:24:03,280
Speaker 4: this is a survey. You mentioned this long list of

1703
01:24:03,320 --> 01:24:08,400
Speaker 4: people that are making decisions coordinators, coaches, gms. Last year,

1704
01:24:08,640 --> 01:24:11,439
Speaker 4: Jalen Hurts in your twenty twenty two quarterback tier was

1705
01:24:11,479 --> 01:24:13,000
Speaker 4: in tier three at number twenty.

1706
01:24:13,240 --> 01:24:14,760
Speaker 3: Trevor Lawrence was at twenty three.

1707
01:24:14,880 --> 01:24:17,960
Speaker 4: Now these guys are on the cusp of potentially moving

1708
01:24:18,000 --> 01:24:21,479
Speaker 4: into tier one. Is there anyone individually that you think

1709
01:24:21,800 --> 01:24:25,000
Speaker 4: maybe Tier four, bottom of tier three, that you've kind

1710
01:24:25,000 --> 01:24:28,200
Speaker 4: of earmarked as someone that could be or maybe one

1711
01:24:28,280 --> 01:24:31,519
Speaker 4: or two quarterbacks that next year In the quarterback tiers

1712
01:24:31,520 --> 01:24:33,439
Speaker 4: of twenty twenty four will be kind of knocking on

1713
01:24:33,439 --> 01:24:34,200
Speaker 4: the door of tier one.

1714
01:24:35,560 --> 01:24:38,160
Speaker 1: I think Kenny Pickett's has a chance to get to two.

1715
01:24:39,280 --> 01:24:40,880
Speaker 1: I don't know that he's gonna be knocking on the

1716
01:24:40,920 --> 01:24:44,000
Speaker 1: door of tier one right away. I don't know that

1717
01:24:44,040 --> 01:24:48,040
Speaker 1: he has tier one traits quote unquote, but I think

1718
01:24:48,080 --> 01:24:51,080
Speaker 1: he's somebody in a good organization with a good head coach.

1719
01:24:51,160 --> 01:24:53,679
Speaker 1: They've done some nice things this offseason to help him

1720
01:24:54,080 --> 01:24:56,439
Speaker 1: with their offensive line. I like the tight end they took,

1721
01:24:57,240 --> 01:25:00,479
Speaker 1: who has unusual size, and I think he just has

1722
01:25:00,520 --> 01:25:02,479
Speaker 1: some polish to him. I think they are you know,

1723
01:25:02,520 --> 01:25:04,519
Speaker 1: people that have played him have been impressed by him.

1724
01:25:05,160 --> 01:25:07,559
Speaker 1: I do a podcast every week with Randy Mueller, who's

1725
01:25:07,600 --> 01:25:10,280
Speaker 1: a three time GM who I think is a great evaluator,

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Speaker 1: and I think he's really good on quarterbacks. That's sort

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01:25:13,560 --> 01:25:15,679
Speaker 1: of the guy that he circled. He circled Daniel Jones.

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01:25:15,720 --> 01:25:17,240
Speaker 1: He's a little higher on Daniel Jones than a lot

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01:25:17,280 --> 01:25:19,280
Speaker 1: of people are too. So maybe those are a couple

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01:25:19,320 --> 01:25:23,280
Speaker 1: of guys who have the potential in good situations to rise.

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Speaker 2: Last question for me, Mike before we leave, is you

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01:25:28,720 --> 01:25:32,280
Speaker 2: had an article come out about the best off season

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01:25:32,400 --> 01:25:35,400
Speaker 2: moves for teams, and for the Bills, you thought it

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01:25:35,560 --> 01:25:40,200
Speaker 2: was investing in their offensive line with Connor McGovern and

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01:25:40,400 --> 01:25:44,400
Speaker 2: then grabbing that first round draft pick Dalton kin Kaid

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01:25:44,479 --> 01:25:48,240
Speaker 2: a tight end for the Bills offense helping out Josh Allen.

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01:25:48,320 --> 01:25:50,479
Speaker 2: Why do you think these two guys are the best

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01:25:50,520 --> 01:25:52,240
Speaker 2: moves that the Bills made this offseason?

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01:25:53,640 --> 01:25:55,759
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I think Josh Allen is so talented,

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01:25:55,800 --> 01:25:58,920
Speaker 1: he's so strong, he's so big, he can do so much.

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01:25:59,120 --> 01:26:02,200
Speaker 1: But I I think we all felt that sometimes it

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01:26:02,240 --> 01:26:04,040
Speaker 1: was at the red line a little too much, you know,

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01:26:04,120 --> 01:26:07,120
Speaker 1: and so sometimes when you have a great quarterback, it's

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01:26:07,160 --> 01:26:09,479
Speaker 1: easy to just build up the defense or do o

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01:26:09,479 --> 01:26:11,920
Speaker 1: other things. But I think it's a good good to

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01:26:11,920 --> 01:26:15,040
Speaker 1: get him some help so hopefully that you know, you know,

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01:26:15,120 --> 01:26:16,920
Speaker 1: he can still put it all in his back when

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01:26:16,960 --> 01:26:18,599
Speaker 1: he has to, but maybe he doesn't feel like he's

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01:26:18,640 --> 01:26:22,400
Speaker 1: doing it quite as much. So Kincaid really diversifies. I

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01:26:22,400 --> 01:26:24,599
Speaker 1: think their passing game a little bit gives him something

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01:26:25,080 --> 01:26:27,960
Speaker 1: they could really use, and I think that's it was

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01:26:28,040 --> 01:26:29,400
Speaker 1: kind of an exciting move for them.

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01:26:29,680 --> 01:26:31,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely, it was exciting to see him out on

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01:26:31,880 --> 01:26:33,799
Speaker 2: the field against the Pittsburgh Steelers.

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01:26:33,880 --> 01:26:36,320
Speaker 5: Last Saturday. Hopefully we see some more of that, not

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01:26:36,360 --> 01:26:36,720
Speaker 5: too much.

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01:26:36,760 --> 01:26:38,840
Speaker 2: We want him to stay healthy for that Week one game,

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01:26:38,880 --> 01:26:41,520
Speaker 2: but hopefully we see some of that against the Chicago

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01:26:41,560 --> 01:26:44,120
Speaker 2: Bears tomorrow. All Right, Mike, thank you so much for

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01:26:44,200 --> 01:26:47,719
Speaker 2: coming on with us and talking about the strength of schedule.

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01:26:47,720 --> 01:26:50,280
Speaker 2: The Bills definitely have a tough schedule and they'll face

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01:26:50,320 --> 01:26:53,040
Speaker 2: some really tough quarterbacks. So thanks for putting that into

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01:26:53,200 --> 01:26:54,240
Speaker 2: perspective for us.

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Speaker 6: Thank you so much. I always enjoyed.

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01:26:57,200 --> 01:26:57,519
Speaker 5: All Right.

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Speaker 2: That was Mike Sando of The Athletic, a senior writer

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Speaker 2: for the Athletic.

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Speaker 5: We're going to take a break. When we come back here, we're.

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Speaker 2: Going to close things up on One Bills Live. We're

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Speaker 2: presented by Kalida Help on Buffalo Bills Radio. All right,

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Speaker 2: back here on One Bills, I made Glad and Chris Trepasso.

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01:27:19,439 --> 01:27:22,960
Speaker 2: And Chris, you had a list of some rookies and

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01:27:23,080 --> 01:27:26,200
Speaker 2: the grades that you had for them after their second

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01:27:26,280 --> 01:27:30,120
Speaker 2: preseason game. Daltonkin Caid was involved in that list. You

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01:27:30,160 --> 01:27:33,840
Speaker 2: gave him an a minus for his performance against the Steelers.

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01:27:33,880 --> 01:27:36,760
Speaker 2: Why'd you give it an a minus? And what do

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01:27:36,800 --> 01:27:39,520
Speaker 2: you want to see from him tomorrow against the Bears.

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01:27:40,320 --> 01:27:42,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's pretty obvious. To have those three catches for

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01:27:42,439 --> 01:27:45,760
Speaker 4: forty seven yards. I think gave a little glimpse of

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01:27:45,800 --> 01:27:48,320
Speaker 4: what he can be in this offense. And one point

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01:27:48,320 --> 01:27:50,519
Speaker 4: to this schematically, the Bills were so good in twenty

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01:27:50,560 --> 01:27:54,439
Speaker 4: twenty even twenty nineteen to have that underneath option that

1783
01:27:54,560 --> 01:27:57,000
Speaker 4: defens has had to kind of sit on with Cole Beasley.

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01:27:57,240 --> 01:27:59,640
Speaker 4: That opened up, gave Davis down the field just to

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01:27:59,680 --> 01:28:02,400
Speaker 4: find digs at the intermediate level. He didn't really have

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01:28:02,520 --> 01:28:05,160
Speaker 4: that last year. So if Dalkin kid can just be

1787
01:28:05,320 --> 01:28:09,040
Speaker 4: that security blanket to use kind of an overused phrase,

1788
01:28:09,560 --> 01:28:13,080
Speaker 4: over the middle underneath, so defenses have to pay attention

1789
01:28:13,160 --> 01:28:16,360
Speaker 4: to him, that opens up the other layers and levels

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01:28:16,439 --> 01:28:18,479
Speaker 4: of this Bill's defense. And you know, with Josh Allen

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01:28:18,720 --> 01:28:21,200
Speaker 4: he can certainly stretch all levels of the field.

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01:28:21,400 --> 01:28:24,320
Speaker 2: He was targeted four times against the Steelers. We'll see

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01:28:24,360 --> 01:28:26,920
Speaker 2: if that number is similar tomorrow against the Bears.

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01:28:27,280 --> 01:28:29,280
Speaker 5: I want to see him and get involved in the.

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01:28:29,200 --> 01:28:32,639
Speaker 2: Blocking game a little bit. I know that's not why

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01:28:32,680 --> 01:28:34,960
Speaker 2: he's on this roster. He's on the roster for what

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01:28:35,080 --> 01:28:38,640
Speaker 2: he can do. When it comes to catching.

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01:28:38,400 --> 01:28:39,800
Speaker 5: Passes from Josh Allen.

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01:28:39,880 --> 01:28:42,280
Speaker 2: He's got elite hands, scored a heck of a lot

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01:28:42,280 --> 01:28:46,000
Speaker 2: of touchdowns when he was playing college football. Runs some

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01:28:46,120 --> 01:28:49,800
Speaker 2: great routes can be an option out wide or in

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01:28:49,800 --> 01:28:52,160
Speaker 2: that slot spot. But I want to see what he

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01:28:52,200 --> 01:28:54,360
Speaker 2: can do when it comes to blocking. I think if

1804
01:28:54,400 --> 01:28:56,559
Speaker 2: he can be a good blocker, or at least show

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01:28:56,640 --> 01:28:59,880
Speaker 2: that he can block, I think it makes it harder

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01:29:00,080 --> 01:29:02,439
Speaker 2: on defenses because when you have somebody that's in there

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01:29:02,479 --> 01:29:05,840
Speaker 2: that can block and catch passes, you don't know what

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01:29:05,880 --> 01:29:07,720
Speaker 2: the defense is gonna do. You don't know what they're

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01:29:07,720 --> 01:29:09,840
Speaker 2: gonna put out there. So we'll see what it looks

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01:29:09,920 --> 01:29:14,120
Speaker 2: like tomorrow against the Chicago Bears in the final preseason game.

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Speaker 5: Chris, thanks for being on.

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Speaker 2: WE hope you guys have a great weekend.