1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Hello Texans, and welcome. It's Texans All Access here from 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 1: the Hunday Texans Radio studio inside NRG Stadium across the 3 00:00:07,560 --> 00:00:10,479 Speaker 1: hall from the locker room. I'm Mark VanderMeer and our 4 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 1: Thursday Night Guessed the General John McClain. We're back Thanksgiving 5 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:17,599 Speaker 1: last week and of course a monumental week in the 6 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 1: history of this franchise with the passing of Bob McNair 7 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 1: a week ago Friday, and of course the Monday Night 8 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:27,640 Speaker 1: game in which the Texans honored Bob McNair a victory 9 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 1: eighth in a row. In general, what a week it's been, 10 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:34,199 Speaker 1: and the march through the season continues. It's just so 11 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 1: strange with everything happening with the McNair family and the 12 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 1: season going on. It's great that they're winning under these circumstances, 13 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:45,200 Speaker 1: under any circumstances, but what a unique dynamic we're going 14 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:48,599 Speaker 1: through right now. It's very interesting. When Bob died on Friday, 15 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 1: then Cal, who was so close to his dad, you 16 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 1: know what I mean that he was at his dad's 17 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 1: side ever since. Cal came back here in the early 18 00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 1: two thousands from Fort Worth to be his dad's right 19 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 1: in man and be groomed to take over running the franchise. 20 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 1: You know, Jane is the controlling owner, but Cal as 21 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:08,959 Speaker 1: a chairman. He runs everything and he has been there 22 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:12,399 Speaker 1: every step of the way for every major decision. And 23 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 1: even though I don't think there'll be any kind of 24 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:18,960 Speaker 1: a noticeable difference in the transition from Bob to Cal, 25 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 1: I think the apple didn't fall far from the tree, 26 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:24,960 Speaker 1: fell right next to it. And you'll see him carry 27 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 1: on the traditions and de Texans are not going to 28 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 1: go out and start signing guys with a lot of baggage. 29 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:33,400 Speaker 1: They're not going to change that philosophy. Cow believes, like Bob, 30 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 1: you can win with good people, and you're seeing that now. 31 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 1: And I think you never know for certain mark you 32 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:43,119 Speaker 1: know somebody, and we've known Cal now since he came 33 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 1: back to Houston. You think he can make tough decisions, 34 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 1: but you never know until he has to make one, 35 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 1: and he shouldn't have to make one. He'll want to 36 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 1: be well informed like Bob was, and he'll sign off 37 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 1: when they want to spend millions on a free agent, 38 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 1: or if they decide to let one go, he'll sign 39 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 1: off on that. And he wants to know what's going on. 40 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 1: But he's not gonna say, Okay, Brian Gaine, I want 41 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 1: you to do this, Bill, you have to do that. 42 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 1: That's not the way the McNair family operates. And I'd 43 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 1: like to say this about Bob McNair. I've never known 44 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 1: anyone I respected more, and I had met him in 45 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 1: ninety seven and I can't tell you, and I know 46 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 1: you feel the same way, how much I respected Bob, 47 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 1: how important people were to him, how well he treated people, 48 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 1: how much he gave to people. He told me one time, 49 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 1: what is the point in making money if you can't 50 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 1: give it to people who need it? And I thought 51 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 1: that just kind of summed up. Bob McNair and Jane 52 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 1: has given away five hundred million dollars and they'll be 53 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 1: given away a whole lot more. And they wanted to 54 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 1: help people and they did. Diversity in the organization was 55 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:52,639 Speaker 1: important to him. He believed in it. I know at 56 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:55,360 Speaker 1: the end of things people were saying about it really 57 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 1: bothered him. He told me that. He said, he said, 58 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 1: seeing these people on me a racist. I just taught 59 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 1: just how much he got to him. And I felt 60 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:07,639 Speaker 1: bad for him because I know all the great things 61 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 1: he'd done for so many different people and the team 62 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 1: he would have been. He would have been embarrassed on 63 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:17,360 Speaker 1: Monday night with all the attention being given to him, 64 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 1: but after the game, he would have been so excited 65 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 1: to win eight in a row, and especially to beat 66 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 1: the Titans, a division opponent, a division opponent, and a 67 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 1: team a franchise. They used to reside in Houston and 68 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:32,359 Speaker 1: left town, creating the void that he would eventually fill 69 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:34,640 Speaker 1: with the Texans. He used to go to He was 70 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 1: a long time Oiler season ticket holder, and when he 71 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 1: met Bud over in River Oaks, they would go to 72 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 1: games together and see he would go with Bud. Budd 73 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 1: had a buzz for his friends and they would sit 74 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 1: in Bud Sweet and Bob had talked Bud when Bob 75 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 1: started making a lot of money in the eighties because 76 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 1: he lost a lot in his sixties and seventies, and 77 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 1: with coaching technologies and he had the resources, he told 78 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 1: asked Bud if he wanted to sell oilers, and Bud 79 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 1: said no, of course, and then he let Bud know 80 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 1: that he'd liked on a franchise. And when Bud one 81 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 1: time had Paul tag Leaboo with him in the early 82 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 1: nineties in his Sweden. He introduced him and tagle Leeboo 83 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:16,160 Speaker 1: and McNair hit it off immediately. The league vetted Bob 84 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 1: and his business and his finances, and they wanted him 85 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 1: to get involved. They talked to him about Miami, Washington 86 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:27,359 Speaker 1: Saint Louis when LA had the exclusive negotiating rights and 87 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 1: they couldn't come up with an owner, a stadium planner, 88 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 1: where is going to be located or finances. They asked 89 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 1: Bob if he'd be interested in owning that team, and 90 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 1: he said no, I'm in Houston, Homer, and he said 91 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:43,719 Speaker 1: he knew his bid, his political and business clout, plus 92 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:46,839 Speaker 1: a stadium financing plan was all in place and he 93 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 1: was confident it was going to get it over LA. 94 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 1: And he was right. And I thought the Oilers moving 95 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:56,919 Speaker 1: was a godsend for Bob, who wanted to own an 96 00:04:57,040 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 1: NFL team, but he didn't want to be an absentee 97 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 1: owner and he didn't want him. I'm glad you talked 98 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 1: about the finesse that it took for him, the deal 99 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:07,159 Speaker 1: making ability it took for him to get the franchise. 100 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 1: It's not just about writing a check. And I made 101 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 1: the point earlier that if it's all about writing checks, 102 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 1: and a lot of guys who own NFL teams who 103 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 1: don't have them, like maybe the man of the White House. 104 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 1: So to me, that says a lot about who he is, 105 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 1: his ability to work those deals and just appeal to people, 106 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:27,159 Speaker 1: relate to people. He didn't try to intimidate. That wasn't 107 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:31,040 Speaker 1: his way. Bob was a good negotiator. League put him 108 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 1: on all kinds of committees. Put him on the Finance committee, 109 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:37,159 Speaker 1: which is the second most important to the competition committee. 110 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:41,920 Speaker 1: And he was very influential the other owners. And I'll 111 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:44,839 Speaker 1: never forget this when we were in Boston and the 112 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 1: last Super Bowl was awarded to Houston, interviewing owners in 113 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 1: Boston after the vote and all of them saying, yeah, 114 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 1: we love Houston, your stadium's great. But I voted Houston 115 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 1: because of Bob McNair and so Bob's we wouldn't be 116 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 1: any year right now if it wasn't for McNair, because 117 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:07,119 Speaker 1: nobody else stepped up, you know, nobody. John Moores, who 118 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 1: was on the Padres and Houston benefactor, he sniffed around 119 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 1: a little bit. I talked to him, but he backed 120 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 1: out early, and it was all Bob McNair. So anybody 121 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 1: that has any complaints about Bob for any reason, just 122 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 1: keep in mind, you wouldn't have a team here. We 123 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:25,160 Speaker 1: might be the minor league football capital of the world 124 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 1: if it wasn't for Bob and Janice McNair. Now what 125 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:30,720 Speaker 1: about the NHL, because there was some talk about him 126 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:34,600 Speaker 1: possibly going for one of those friends, Chuck Watson. Chuck 127 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 1: Chuck loved hockey and Bob. Bob was a sportsman. You know, 128 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 1: he played baseball and basketball growing up North Carolina, drafted 129 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 1: by the Cubs, but went to University of South Carolina. 130 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 1: But he always loved football and that was his favorite sport. 131 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 1: Then when he moved here in nineteen sixty two, years 132 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:54,840 Speaker 1: after he and Janie graduated from college, you know, they 133 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 1: didn't have any money. Their daughter had was a baby, 134 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 1: had to be kept in a drawer to they could 135 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 1: afford a crib. And then his last seven hundred he 136 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:07,359 Speaker 1: started a car rental business. So he wasn't born with 137 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 1: a silver spoon. I don't even know if he's born 138 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 1: with a spoon. And so he came here and and 139 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 1: I didn't realize this. I wrote it when I found 140 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 1: out he came here as a Democrat, and when he 141 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 1: met George H. W. Bush in sixty four and they 142 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 1: became friends. He became a Republican and so and they 143 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 1: remained friends right up until Bob's death. And the book 144 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 1: George Bush had a very moving statement tribute to his 145 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 1: longtime friend. And so Bob learned how to negotiate. He 146 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 1: was very shrewd and smart. He also learned by his failure. 147 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 1: He told me, he said, man, I got into the 148 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 1: telecommunications business too early, and because he went broken the 149 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 1: telecommunications of business. And think if he'd waited, you know 150 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 1: how many billions. But he didn't give up. You know, 151 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 1: he would learn lessons, just like a cornerback learns a 152 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 1: lesson when he gets beat, and then you come back 153 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 1: even stronger when you learn from it. So he got 154 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 1: to be a very shrewd, smart businessman who was willing 155 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 1: to take chances, and he wasn't afraid of failure. And 156 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 1: that's one reason he went after the team. And remember 157 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 1: when you were hired and they had the seven hundred 158 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 1: million dollars. There's some idiot out there willing to pay 159 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 1: seven hundred million for an NFL franchise. And I told 160 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 1: him one time, I said, you know Forbes. He always 161 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 1: said the Forbes thing was inaccurate. I said, well, it's 162 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 1: the values way over billion dollars. He said it doesn't 163 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 1: matter because he's never leaving our family. And I thought 164 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 1: that was very interesting, and he told me how much 165 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 1: confidence he had in Cal. Cal, he says, a good listener, 166 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 1: and he's Cal always paid attention. You know, he played 167 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:51,440 Speaker 1: walked on at UT so he's been around football. But 168 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 1: it doesn't mean he's all of a sudden going to 169 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:55,839 Speaker 1: try to be Jerry Jones. And I think that the 170 00:08:55,880 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 1: fans here were like, Cal McNair's an owner, Jans the owner, 171 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 1: but you know she's gonna stay out of it. And 172 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 1: I think people will like Cal just like they liked Bob. Yeah. 173 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 1: I agree. And Cal's been so plucked in. I mean 174 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:12,560 Speaker 1: he's been here at the practices, he goes to the meetings. 175 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 1: He understands what's happening on the football side very well. 176 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:17,840 Speaker 1: Mark less beyond as Bob had been really ill in 177 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 1: and out of hospitals lately, battling cancer for five years 178 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 1: as much. And Cal they made him the chairman and 179 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 1: Bob senior chairman. And so going back Bob, and it 180 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 1: was headed the search committee. He was the one that hired. 181 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 1: Cal was right there. Cal approved it, too bright to 182 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 1: bring back Brian gain his general manager and five year 183 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 1: contract and then give Bill a four year extension when 184 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 1: a lot of people are saying, you got a fire 185 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:50,560 Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien. And so he had confidence in Bill and 186 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 1: he gave him a four year extension, and then he 187 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:57,319 Speaker 1: gave he told me, he said that he did. He 188 00:09:57,400 --> 00:10:01,960 Speaker 1: wouldn't want Brian to come in and clean house immediately. 189 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:04,679 Speaker 1: He could bring in who he wanted, but he wanted 190 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 1: to make sure about all those decisions because Brian had 191 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:10,599 Speaker 1: been here and that was a huge advantage for for 192 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 1: free agent periods in four drafts, so he knew who 193 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 1: he wanted to keep and who he wanted to let go. 194 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 1: And so Bob gave him the money. That's a good 195 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 1: thing about Bob, and I know Col's going to do 196 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 1: this too. Bob mcnaire always gave the people the money 197 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 1: they needed to hire the people they wanted, or to 198 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:30,439 Speaker 1: sign the free agent or to keep the player, and 199 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 1: then he let them do their jobs. And Cal's going 200 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 1: to do that. He's gonna let them give them the 201 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 1: resources to operate. Whether it's Jamie Roots running the administrative 202 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:44,440 Speaker 1: side or Brian Gaine running the personnel department, they will 203 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:48,680 Speaker 1: not be operating with a small budget. That's not the 204 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:51,559 Speaker 1: way the McNair's operate. And I hope the listeners who 205 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 1: are fans appreciate an ownership that does that, because that's 206 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 1: the way you should be get. Hire good people, pay 207 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 1: them money, give them the resources, and stay informed, but 208 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 1: don't tell them how to do their jobs. Well. Like 209 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 1: you said earlier, Bob would have been so excited about 210 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:09,840 Speaker 1: the victory Monday night. He'd be so excited about eight 211 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:12,439 Speaker 1: and three, of course, and five games to go in 212 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:16,079 Speaker 1: the regular season. John, how good is this football team? 213 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 1: What do you think of the Houston Texans right now 214 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 1: going into the next game. I tweeted this on Wednesday, 215 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 1: and I believe that it will be on extra points. 216 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:33,080 Speaker 1: I heard you're on there with Drew Dardy and that 217 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 1: ESPN had this stat about strength of victory. People say 218 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 1: Texans and beating anybody their strength of victory. Their opponents 219 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 1: are way above Kansas City, Pittsburgh the Chargers. Chargers next 220 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:49,319 Speaker 1: lowest in the AFC to Oakland, which is only won 221 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 1: one game so looking at that, the Titans is the toughest. 222 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 1: But looking at that and looking at the teams behind 223 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 1: the Texans, you can't say it. If you're going to 224 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 1: say it, you have to say, well, the Chiefs m 225 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:04,320 Speaker 1: beating anybody's dealers and beating anybody. Colts haven't beaten anybody, 226 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 1: and the Chargers haven't beating anybody. And so that's something 227 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 1: that has really gotten my attention. And you know, Mark, 228 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 1: a month ago, we wouldn't have given a second thought 229 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 1: to Cleveland game chalked it up as a w And 230 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 1: now the Browns are good under interim coach Greg Williams, 231 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:24,560 Speaker 1: and Baker Mayfield and Miles Garrett, two former first overall picks, 232 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 1: are both playing great. All right, what do you think 233 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 1: of Mayfield here? Because clearly he is playing well, but 234 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:32,200 Speaker 1: he's also making a lot of noise. He does a 235 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 1: lot of talking John, and it's rubbing a bunch of 236 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 1: people NFL observer observers anyway the wrong way. But how 237 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 1: does that impact how the team deals with him? I mean, 238 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 1: they got to deal with them between the lines, but 239 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 1: I'm wondering how that motivates them to see, just here, 240 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 1: some of the things he's been talking about I asked 241 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 1: Greg Williams on the conference, calling him known Gregson's nineteen 242 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:56,199 Speaker 1: ninety when he came to the Oilers, I see your 243 00:12:56,280 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 1: personality and Mayfield's personality are a lot, a lot. He said, 244 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 1: what are you saying? I said, brash, bowl, outspoken, and 245 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 1: they give each other a hard time. He doesn't reel 246 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 1: in Mayfield because that's who Greg Williams is. The of course, 247 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:17,320 Speaker 1: Cleveland fans and the Browns love it when Mayfield walks 248 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:20,960 Speaker 1: the walk after he's talked to talk. He has seven touchdowns, 249 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 1: no interceptions. Last two games. They've won double digit games 250 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 1: back to back for the first time since like when 251 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:30,680 Speaker 1: Watt was a rookie. And they also he's the first 252 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 1: rookie to have a one forty rating two games in 253 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:36,320 Speaker 1: a row, and that's first in NFL history. And he's 254 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 1: been really good under Freddie Kitchens elevated from quarterbacked offensive 255 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 1: coordinator and Greg Williams of course oversees the defense as 256 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:46,679 Speaker 1: well as being an interim coach. But this is a 257 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 1: team that plays hard. They're gonna come in here fired up. 258 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 1: They just won their first game since like eighteen fifty 259 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:56,319 Speaker 1: on the road. They were about to set the NFL 260 00:13:56,400 --> 00:14:00,560 Speaker 1: record for consecutive road losses, and they beat the Browns, 261 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 1: I mean the Bengals handily. That's probably good for the Texans. 262 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 1: You didn't want them coming in here trying to avoid 263 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 1: an all time record. But it's gonna be physical, it's 264 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 1: gonna be exciting, and it's gonna be a whole lot 265 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 1: of fun for the fans to see if they the 266 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 1: Texans can win a ninth in a row, and I 267 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 1: believe they will. I think they'll have a nine game 268 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 1: winning streak, and the Jet and the Branton Colt excuse me, 269 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 1: will have a six game winning streak coming in for 270 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 1: the game of the year, and there's in a time 271 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 1: if the Browns were worse, there might be the old 272 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 1: letdown game, but I don't think so. The Browns have 273 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 1: gotten not just the Texans attention, but the NFL's attention 274 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 1: because they're talking playoffs. These Texans running the football a 275 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 1: whole lot better than they did very early in the season. Actually, 276 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 1: those first three games they were they were running it okay, 277 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 1: but the balance seems to be there now in this 278 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 1: offensive attack for them. They committed to it because of 279 00:14:57,480 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 1: watching taking so many beatings, specifically Dallas and Buffalo. It's 280 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 1: amazing considering his injuries, and they still wont It's amazing 281 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 1: he could drive on a right on a luxury bus 282 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 1: to Jacksonville and they could win by thirteen. The toughness 283 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 1: I don't because the team wouldn't even acknowledge he was heard. 284 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 1: He doesn't get as much credit as he should for 285 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 1: playing with those injuries. And I believe this last game 286 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 1: against Tennessee's the first time he's been healthy because he 287 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 1: was rambunctious, not reckless, but rambunctious. Still, he's got to 288 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 1: start sliding. I think if you're a Texans fan, you're 289 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 1: holding your breath every time he runs nine runs, not 290 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 1: to mention, getting hit in the pocket is something that 291 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 1: you'd think wear him down. But he looked like in 292 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 1: that game, like a puppy come charging out of a cage, 293 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 1: running around on a carpet and just having so much fun. 294 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 1: You could tell he feels good and he feels confident. 295 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 1: But when you're only throwing an average you're not throwing 296 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 1: more than twenty four passes a game for five games, 297 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 1: not a lot of whiteouts are going to get the ball. 298 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 1: You know, you saw him get maximum use from Damarus Thomas. 299 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 1: Most of the targets are going to DeAndre Hopkins, as 300 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 1: they should. There's not a lot of others to go 301 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 1: around in the running game. It's always easier for lineman 302 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 1: to charge off the ball than it is to back up. 303 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 1: And it's not just the lineman. On that ninety seven 304 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 1: yard touchdown, Julie Davenport pulled from left tackle and made 305 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 1: a just devastating block that helped clear him. On the 306 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 1: fifteen yard touchdown run by Watson, Ryan Griffin had a 307 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 1: great block. So it's involving the tight ends and everybody else. 308 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 1: And right now they got it going on on the 309 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 1: run blocking. I know fans get just go crazy when 310 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 1: they're stopped for no game on first down or minus 311 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 1: one on first down, But when you're averaging one hundred 312 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 1: and six nine yards rushing in your last five games, 313 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 1: it's hard to be upset for any reason. I totally agree. Now, 314 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:10,439 Speaker 1: what about this the defensive front, the front seven, the 315 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 1: pressure they were getting on Mariota, being able to stop 316 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:16,880 Speaker 1: the Tennessee running game on Monday Night. We've seen them 317 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 1: stop some really good running backs this year. We're a 318 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:21,440 Speaker 1: little surprised at the amount of pressure they got on 319 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:24,680 Speaker 1: Tennessee with the six sacks and the other pressures Levin 320 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:27,680 Speaker 1: sacks in two games, first time in team history they've 321 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 1: had at least five in back to back games. Whitney merciless. 322 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:34,719 Speaker 1: Now Whitney the last couple of games has started to 323 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:38,399 Speaker 1: look more like Whitney making some big time plays White 324 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 1: and Clowney. Of course the offenses have to account for them. Now. 325 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 1: Christian Covington, I'm thinking, what did he eat before the game? 326 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 1: Two and a half sacks and he had the most hits, 327 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 1: the most knockdowns, and you think, my goodness. I as 328 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien, he said he won one on one matchup. 329 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:01,920 Speaker 1: So Kim Covington, keep up. DJ Reader does a great 330 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 1: job on the nose of tying up blockers that doesn't 331 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:07,880 Speaker 1: show up in the stats. O'Brien said, you guys never 332 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 1: asked me about Angelo Blackson, and he's playing very well. 333 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:15,119 Speaker 1: So the defensive lines playing well. Getting back Zach Cunningham, 334 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:17,920 Speaker 1: who we think of more as a finesse player, but 335 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 1: he and McKinney had that goal line stop on the 336 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 1: tight end Luke Stocker and that changed the game, along 337 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:28,080 Speaker 1: with the ninety seven yard touchdown run. Having him back 338 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:31,679 Speaker 1: now getting Dylan coldback, that front seven is strong. But 339 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 1: I'll say this, I've never seen Mark guy have won 340 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 1: end completion with one or six left in the game, 341 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:40,680 Speaker 1: throw for three hundred yards, two touchdowns, and he only 342 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 1: scored seventeen points. So they're gonna have to do a 343 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:46,640 Speaker 1: better job of coverage because if you're getting that kind 344 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 1: of pressure on the quarterback and you still give up 345 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:54,480 Speaker 1: that kind of those many completions, including a blown coverage 346 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:56,879 Speaker 1: on the sixty one yard touchdown to the tight end, 347 00:18:56,920 --> 00:18:59,720 Speaker 1: which was a short passing run, and then they got 348 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:02,680 Speaker 1: beat when they collided on the last one of forty 349 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 1: eight yard touchdown. But the secondary's got to tighten up 350 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:11,359 Speaker 1: poor choice awards. Secondary's got to be better against the 351 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:14,439 Speaker 1: Browns than it was against the Titans. You have the 352 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 1: Cults facing the Jaguars this weekend, and the Jaguars look done. 353 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 1: Cody Kessler, they've thrown in the towel. They're trying to 354 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:24,640 Speaker 1: get another high draft choice, just what they need. They'll 355 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 1: probably use it on defensive player is Maron safe. Tom 356 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 1: Coughlin and Doug Moron are two disciplinarian, old school guys 357 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 1: and I'm amazed going back to Jalen Ramsey calling people 358 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 1: trash and gentleman's quarterly. Can you imagine somebody doing that here? 359 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:46,680 Speaker 1: We think Bill O'Brien would do when it would explode. 360 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 1: And then the players staying out late and getting in 361 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:53,239 Speaker 1: trouble in London. Just a lot of things, and they 362 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:56,720 Speaker 1: got a lot of personalities. O'Brien's always talking about a 363 00:19:56,720 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 1: good teammate. A good teammate that's important here, and good 364 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 1: teammates don't cause your team to implode. And so Jacksonville 365 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:08,440 Speaker 1: to me, is the most disappointing team in the NFL. 366 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 1: Like the Texans and the Bears are the two biggest surprised, 367 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 1: and the Bears are even more surprised because nobody picked 368 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:18,680 Speaker 1: the Bears to win that division. I saw people pick 369 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 1: the Texans to win the division. I picked him ten 370 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:23,639 Speaker 1: and six and I earn a wild card. But I 371 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 1: would say right now that the Texans and the Jaguars 372 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:30,439 Speaker 1: are the biggest surprises for different reasons. And tell you 373 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 1: something really bothered me. I saw a thing this week 374 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 1: with Peter King and Mike Florio Coach of the Year, 375 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:39,200 Speaker 1: and they had eight candidates and Bill O'Brien wasn't among 376 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:42,200 Speaker 1: the eight, and I'm thinking, how can he not be 377 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:46,639 Speaker 1: among the eight candidates. I guess they don't know. You know, 378 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:49,199 Speaker 1: you lose five corners in the first seven games, You're 379 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:52,480 Speaker 1: lose an offensive tackle for the season, You're coming off 380 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 1: a four and twelfth season. You you lose your owner. 381 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 1: You got guys who took him a while to get 382 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 1: one hundred percent, and it's like people are ignoring it. 383 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:03,880 Speaker 1: And I'd love to see him say, well, they haven't 384 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 1: beating anybody, because now they may not have beaten anybody, 385 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:10,360 Speaker 1: but if they have it, then those teams we talked 386 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:15,160 Speaker 1: about earlier, Pittsburgh, Indianapolis, the Chargers, then they have had 387 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 1: their strength of victory is worse than the Texans, so 388 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:21,879 Speaker 1: that doesn't wash anymore. So I don't know what it 389 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 1: would take for Bill. Maybe he was number nine on 390 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:28,399 Speaker 1: their list. Two more wins, I think they would change 391 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 1: their tune and they're gonna be hard to get against 392 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:32,440 Speaker 1: the Browns and then the Colts, and no one's looking 393 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:36,120 Speaker 1: past Cleveland, believe me. All right, we mentioned Colts to Jackson, 394 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 1: and we talked about the Jackson, But what about the Colts, John, 395 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 1: You said it earlier if they come in next week 396 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 1: having preserved that streak, and it's likely they do because 397 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 1: they're going to Jacksonville and Jacksonville does look like a 398 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 1: done team at this stage. What about what they're doing, 399 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 1: pass protection, running the ball, well, defense is playing well, 400 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:57,160 Speaker 1: they got it going on right now. I was asking 401 00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 1: my Friday mail bag that I do on Texas Support 402 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 1: Nation three weeks ago when I saw the Texans losing. 403 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:06,919 Speaker 1: This was three weeks ago. I said, I believe the 404 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 1: Texans will have a nine game winning streak and the 405 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 1: next lost would be at Indianapolis because it is gonna 406 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 1: be so hard to beat Andrew Luck two times. I 407 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 1: think if they do beat Cleveland Indianapolis, that's when people 408 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 1: around the country will start to take the Texans seriously 409 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:27,720 Speaker 1: because everybody knows how great Luck's playing. That I saw 410 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:30,879 Speaker 1: an article on the internet and not from Indianapolis, that 411 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 1: he needs to be in the MVP talk and he does. 412 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:36,920 Speaker 1: Drew Brees is gonna win unless they collapse, but Luck 413 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 1: should get mentioned, just like O'Brien should be mentioned. Is 414 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:42,480 Speaker 1: and come back of the year and why his Player 415 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 1: of the Year and come Back of the Year, and 416 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:51,959 Speaker 1: so they just for whatever reason, the Texans are not 417 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:56,199 Speaker 1: getting a lot of national respect. I saw Sports Illustrated 418 00:22:56,200 --> 00:23:00,040 Speaker 1: its top top the rankings, and I think I have 419 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 1: the Texans at six or seven. They dropped them to 420 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 1: tie for tenth, and they moved the Cowboys ahead of them. Well, 421 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 1: they beat the Cowboys. They moved the Cowboys ahead based 422 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:13,199 Speaker 1: on a victory over the Red Skids in Dallas and 423 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 1: the Texans one at Washington, and I have them up 424 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 1: with the Chargers. And there are two games I had 425 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 1: of Dallas, right, yes, and because of the Chargers. The 426 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:28,639 Speaker 1: Chargers lost in home to Denver, the Texans one at Denver. 427 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 1: I had him at a Pittsburgh because Pittsburgh has a 428 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:34,879 Speaker 1: words Racord, but also because Pittsburgh just lost at Denver 429 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,879 Speaker 1: and the Texans won at Denver. So I just don't 430 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:41,880 Speaker 1: understand how you could have the Cowboys over the Texans 431 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:45,440 Speaker 1: in a ranking. But it's very interesting to see look 432 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 1: around the league in the NFL and see what people 433 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:52,880 Speaker 1: think of the Texans and so far, Yeah, they're impressed 434 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 1: with the winning streak, but they haven't beaten anybody. Yeah, 435 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:59,879 Speaker 1: that's kind of a well, it is a false narrative. Indeed, 436 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 1: all right, some of the other games. The Thursday Night 437 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 1: special Cowboys hosting the Saints. Speaking of that team from Dallas, 438 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 1: does Dallas have a shot here at home? They're putting 439 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:11,879 Speaker 1: Gil Brand in the Ring of Honor. People are going 440 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:15,120 Speaker 1: to be excited about that. Unless the Saints play their 441 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:18,359 Speaker 1: worst game, They're not gonna lose to the Cowboys. Cowboys 442 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:23,240 Speaker 1: lost by fourteen and home to Tennessee, and they beat 443 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:27,360 Speaker 1: Washington on Thanksgiving. But I think I picked the Saints 444 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 1: by ten. You know the funny thing about the Titans, John, 445 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:32,160 Speaker 1: They'll have the Jets this weekend and I'll likely win 446 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:34,320 Speaker 1: for them. And I hate to say likely in this league, 447 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 1: but let's say they get it all right, they go 448 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 1: back to six and six, and if somehow the Texans 449 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:41,399 Speaker 1: lose to the Browns, they're right back in the conversation 450 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:43,879 Speaker 1: in the division. It's not over for them yet. The 451 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:48,240 Speaker 1: Titans next three games or against opponents that are nineteen 452 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:52,240 Speaker 1: twenty four, nine, they see they're they're all three and eight, 453 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 1: So yes, nineteen twenty four and the only road game 454 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:58,119 Speaker 1: they have left four of the last five or Nashville 455 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:01,439 Speaker 1: and the only road games against Giants, So they got 456 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:04,480 Speaker 1: a chance to compete for that last wildcard. It looks 457 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 1: like the Chargers are gonna have the first wildcard. Good 458 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 1: chance they could come here unless the Texans get the 459 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 1: third seed ahead of Pittsburgh, but the Titans could certainly 460 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 1: get the last one. What are you thinking about Chargers 461 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 1: and Steelers in Pittsburgh on Sunday night? Nice attractive national 462 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:27,240 Speaker 1: matchup and I'm taking Pittsburgh the Chargers. They have the 463 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 1: lowest strength of victory in the AFC to Oakland, which 464 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 1: is only won one game, and Philip Rivers is playing great, 465 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 1: but they're going to Pittsburgh. Whether it could be a factor, 466 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:41,680 Speaker 1: but I think the Steelers are going to bounce back. 467 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:44,719 Speaker 1: Steelers had two bad games in a row, both on 468 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:48,879 Speaker 1: the road. They beat Jacksonville, but they had to do 469 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 1: it right at the end, and then of course they 470 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:54,040 Speaker 1: lost to Denver. I think Mike Tomlin will have them 471 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:58,359 Speaker 1: focus and beating the Chargers pretty handily. I'm guessing you 472 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 1: wouldn't pick against the Patriots at home against the Vikings, 473 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 1: but they might have a shot to do some damage here. 474 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 1: Minnesota's defense is good, but Kirk Cousins I saw a 475 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 1: bunch of stats about their passing game They're behind in 476 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 1: like five major stats from where they were with case 477 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 1: Keenum last year. So no way. As I've told you before, 478 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 1: I haven't picked against the Patriots at home since two 479 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 1: thousand and one. In my percentage is pretty good. Ravens 480 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 1: are a hot wild card possibility. They'll be at the Falcons. 481 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 1: So Lamar Jackson doing pretty well in short order anyway, 482 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 1: But what about what's wrong with Atlanta? And this is 483 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 1: an Atlanta team, by the way, that was held to 484 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:36,399 Speaker 1: sixteen points against Cleveland a couple of weeks ago. They 485 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 1: had won three in a row. We all thought they 486 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 1: were back. Now they've lost their last two and I 487 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:46,880 Speaker 1: think that they could beat Matt Ryan's still playing great, 488 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 1: their defense is terrible. I think with Lamar Jackson, if 489 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:54,200 Speaker 1: they say if he wins, Flacco's not getting his job back, 490 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:56,960 Speaker 1: I think Atlanta will win this game and Flacco will 491 00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:59,920 Speaker 1: get his job back to advanced Joseph. I can't say 492 00:26:59,920 --> 00:27:02,199 Speaker 1: it's done yet, and I'm sure you wouldn't either, but 493 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,400 Speaker 1: how is he doing with job security? After the Broncos 494 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:07,160 Speaker 1: have bounced back with a couple of wins and they'll 495 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:10,880 Speaker 1: be at Cincinnati this weekend. Bengals just signing Tom Savage 496 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:15,040 Speaker 1: as a backup quarterback the Broncos. I thought he was 497 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,399 Speaker 1: gonna be gone after the Texans beat him up there, 498 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:20,719 Speaker 1: and then they beat the Chargers in Los Angeles, and 499 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:24,040 Speaker 1: then they just beat Pittsburgh at home, and now they're 500 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 1: talking playoffs too. So much competition for that last wild 501 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:31,800 Speaker 1: guard spot. Chargers eight and three, Pittsburgh beats them, they're 502 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:34,120 Speaker 1: gonna be eight and four, and that puts teams one 503 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 1: behind them. This race is just gonna be great and exciting. 504 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,480 Speaker 1: But I don't think Denver is gonna make the playoffs, 505 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 1: but they have basing that more on what I saw 506 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 1: when the Texans were there and not what I've seen 507 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:51,080 Speaker 1: with them winning these last two over two teams destined 508 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:53,440 Speaker 1: for the playoffs. John, you and I don't talk much 509 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 1: college football, but after watching that eight hundred overtime, well 510 00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 1: it was seven overtime game against Texas A and M 511 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:02,760 Speaker 1: and L, I would change college overtime, just go to 512 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:06,480 Speaker 1: the NFL overtime. Well, I think that instead of putting 513 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:09,440 Speaker 1: it at the twenty five, they automate it harder. And 514 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:13,359 Speaker 1: I watched it and watched every player was exciting. I 515 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 1: was glad to Aggi's one had a good fight afterward. 516 00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:20,240 Speaker 1: I've watched read everything about the fight, all the videos, 517 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:25,400 Speaker 1: and I like the college overtime. I don't like it's 518 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:28,480 Speaker 1: too easy to score, but also the stats count, which 519 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 1: is unfair to players who don't play in overtime when 520 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:35,280 Speaker 1: you're competing for awards and A and MM I know, 521 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:38,320 Speaker 1: boy if they had lost that one, but right now 522 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 1: they're eight and four, beat LSU for the first time, 523 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:45,239 Speaker 1: and since they went into the SCC. But and that 524 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 1: was the record number of points, tied the record for overtime, 525 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 1: So it was so rare market. It's not like it's 526 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 1: happening all the time. Don't you know those guys were tired. 527 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, how would you like to Ben Ozarani gets 528 00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 1: the gatorade dumped on him with one second. Then he 529 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 1: had to go seven overtimes wearing clothes covered gatorade, all 530 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 1: the sticky sweet stuff. You know, that's why they started 531 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 1: to throw it. I think a little bit more aggressively 532 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:13,720 Speaker 1: as those overtimes went on. You know, forget about trying 533 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:15,720 Speaker 1: to grind it in. You just want to get the 534 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 1: quick score because you're just exhausted. There were so many 535 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 1: big plays yeah, so very little past defense. And I 536 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 1: would change though that format, I just the stats counting, 537 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 1: or I would say tie game, whatever it is, fifty 538 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:33,280 Speaker 1: one to fifty one, Aggies went overtime, you know that 539 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:35,479 Speaker 1: kind of thing. I don't know. Change the way it scored. 540 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:38,480 Speaker 1: They could add twelve, they could add fifteen. Yeah, it 541 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 1: would go on curfew in college station. And by the way, 542 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,000 Speaker 1: I know it's an offseason discussion, but I'm still in 543 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 1: favor of going back to the old way in the NFL, 544 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:48,959 Speaker 1: sudden death overtime. Play it, live it and deal with it. 545 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:52,280 Speaker 1: I don't like the shorter overtimes. Actually, when we had 546 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:54,480 Speaker 1: some ties early in the year, yeah, I thought that 547 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 1: way its gonna be all season. Thank goodness, it hasn't 548 00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:58,680 Speaker 1: been exactly, John, what do you have going on on 549 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:02,720 Speaker 1: the chronicle? I'm writing a column about Deshaun Watson and 550 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:05,840 Speaker 1: instincts and how how he has them and how it 551 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:10,880 Speaker 1: helps him make plays, especially in the pocket. And we've 552 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 1: got Aaron Wilson, Brian T. Smith that they've got columns 553 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:17,600 Speaker 1: and stories coming. And thank you very much as always, Mark, 554 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 1: Let's learn more about the Cleveland Browns now John Harris 555 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 1: is here and Johnny. I know Baker Mayfield, it's a 556 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:26,680 Speaker 1: big deal, no question his playmaking ability. But Nick Chubb 557 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:30,360 Speaker 1: is also a big concern for this Houston defense, no doubt. 558 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 1: In fact, I did my each week, I do a 559 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:35,840 Speaker 1: tellustrator for us for Extra Points and for the website, 560 00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:39,240 Speaker 1: but also do one for game day on KPRC, and 561 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 1: that was my focus was Nick Chubb, and I think 562 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:45,320 Speaker 1: that's really what has the changes they made offensively, where 563 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:48,720 Speaker 1: they moved Freddy Kitchens in his offensive coordinator, changed the 564 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 1: offensive tailor, did a little bit more around Baker Mayfield 565 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:57,480 Speaker 1: really has bolstered what Nick Chubb can do, and Nick 566 00:30:57,520 --> 00:30:59,120 Speaker 1: Chubb is bolstered what the offense can do. I mean, 567 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 1: it's really come to become a balanced offense now, truly 568 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,160 Speaker 1: with Chubb in the backfield, now there are some things 569 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 1: they can do with Duke Johnson, they'll use both backs 570 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:09,719 Speaker 1: at the same time. They left fact use Duke Johnson 571 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:13,560 Speaker 1: as a slot receiver. So offensively, they're very balanced and 572 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:16,240 Speaker 1: Bakers moving around the pocket, getting the ball out quickly, 573 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 1: doing the things that we knew we're gonna be difficult 574 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:22,400 Speaker 1: to stop, and they're gonna be difficult to stop, which 575 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 1: sounds kind of like Cleveland Brown. Yeah, and Joku's a 576 00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:27,840 Speaker 1: dude at tight end. He's gonna be a really tough matchup. 577 00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:29,880 Speaker 1: In fact, I think you have to treat him almost 578 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:32,320 Speaker 1: like you do Travis Kelsey. How do you treat Kelsey? 579 00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:34,040 Speaker 1: Do you cover them with a corner to cover with nickel? 580 00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:36,240 Speaker 1: Do you cover with safety? You got to you gotta 581 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 1: figure all that out depending on whether he's attached, attached 582 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 1: where he is what do they do, because I think 583 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:44,400 Speaker 1: you gotta cover from like a wide receiver. Really absolutely 584 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,880 Speaker 1: put a safety on him at least at the very 585 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:48,840 Speaker 1: You're exactly right, at the very least you put a 586 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:50,800 Speaker 1: safety on him, No doubt, You've got to put a 587 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 1: safety on him. I mean that's that to me is 588 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 1: a massive part in this game is stopping at Joku 589 00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:59,480 Speaker 1: big time because where he can get what he does 590 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:02,200 Speaker 1: after the catch, he's a whale an athlete. He's only 591 00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:04,959 Speaker 1: twenty one. That's a scary thing. He's only twenty one. 592 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:07,840 Speaker 1: What about Landry He had a huge game against this 593 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:10,320 Speaker 1: team when the Dolphins played the Texans in twenty fifteen, 594 00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:12,840 Speaker 1: like Lamar Miller did. Ultimately he got a job here. 595 00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 1: But what about Landry Well, in Miami, they would they 596 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 1: checked it down to him. I said, check it down. 597 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 1: But he ran a lot of shallows and you know 598 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 1: short crosses, slants, you know underneath routes where Tannehill and 599 00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:26,160 Speaker 1: Dolphin quarterbacks is just getting the ball dot him work. 600 00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:28,840 Speaker 1: They still do that a little bit, but there there 601 00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:31,960 Speaker 1: are a lot more guys on that roster that are 602 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:36,239 Speaker 1: probably more lethal, if that makes sense. I mean they 603 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 1: can hit you with one blow. Landry is more like 604 00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:42,160 Speaker 1: hitting the rock a thousand times in the thousand. One 605 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:45,120 Speaker 1: is gonna thousand and one thousand at first is gonna 606 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:47,160 Speaker 1: break it. That's kind of where Landry is. I mean, 607 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:49,160 Speaker 1: he's gonna catch a little bitunderneath that's a five yard game, 608 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:51,600 Speaker 1: that's a seven yard game. He's kind of death by 609 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 1: a million paper cuts, if you will. But the rest 610 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:56,520 Speaker 1: of the guys can be down the field making plays. 611 00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 1: Antonio Callaway, the Rookie Hat of Florida and Joku Nick 612 00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:02,160 Speaker 1: Cho Duke Johnson, even those guys can be home run 613 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:05,600 Speaker 1: hitters with Baker. But Baker's gonna when he when he 614 00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:08,480 Speaker 1: needs it, he'll go find Landry. Landry will be the 615 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 1: one he relies on. But Landry's not going to produce 616 00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:12,840 Speaker 1: the big plays like those other guys can't. What about 617 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:16,040 Speaker 1: on defense, Garrett everybody knows about him, But what else 618 00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:17,640 Speaker 1: are we looking at there? Well, I think the biggest 619 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:19,760 Speaker 1: thing you're looking at on outside of the ball is 620 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:23,920 Speaker 1: turnover production. They turn teams over better than anybody. They're 621 00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 1: number won the league, tied tied for first in the 622 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:31,280 Speaker 1: league in turnover margin twenty seven turnovers they've created. They're 623 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:34,160 Speaker 1: plus fourteen, so they turn it over thirteen times, but 624 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:37,080 Speaker 1: they've gone and got twenty seven. So that's the key. 625 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:39,360 Speaker 1: They're no better than twenty eighth or twenty nine than 626 00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:44,720 Speaker 1: any one category, rushing, past, defense, whatever the numbers. Really 627 00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:47,400 Speaker 1: look at and go, really, this team has played this 628 00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:49,000 Speaker 1: well the last couple of weeks, But you look at 629 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,320 Speaker 1: the turnover production and what they've what they've done turning 630 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:54,360 Speaker 1: teams over, and that's the key. They're very athletic, there's 631 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:57,120 Speaker 1: no doubt. But you can still see where the Texans 632 00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:59,520 Speaker 1: can have some success. They can run the football against 633 00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:02,760 Speaker 1: these guys. I thing, and if Deshan doesn't throw interceptions 634 00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:04,720 Speaker 1: and offense doesn't turn over, I think they're gonna be 635 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:05,840 Speaker 1: able to put the ball in the end zone, and 636 00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:08,200 Speaker 1: I think that's gonna make four. It's gonna make for 637 00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:10,719 Speaker 1: a challenge up hill for Baker. Do you have to 638 00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:13,120 Speaker 1: score that many points? Have to score that many points? 639 00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:15,600 Speaker 1: I mean, they scored thirty five last week against Cincinnati, 640 00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:18,520 Speaker 1: and really they I don't want to say they were 641 00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:20,120 Speaker 1: handed it, but they had a really good first drive. 642 00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:22,719 Speaker 1: Then since Nati missed the field goal near midfield, so 643 00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:26,239 Speaker 1: they drove like forty five fifty yards other touchdown, and 644 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:28,280 Speaker 1: then they got one off a turnover a bad snap 645 00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:32,640 Speaker 1: from Billy Price thirty yards back down field. Since that 646 00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:35,920 Speaker 1: are Cleveland is scoring again twenty one nothing, So it 647 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,000 Speaker 1: ended up being twenty eight, not a half. And at 648 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:39,920 Speaker 1: that point you're just coasting through the second half. For 649 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:43,800 Speaker 1: the most part of Cincinnati, there's no Aj Green, there's 650 00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:46,319 Speaker 1: nobody else as wide receiver you get scared of. There's 651 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,399 Speaker 1: no Tyler I for it. I mean any Dalton then't 652 00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:51,520 Speaker 1: got hurt. What about Atlanta before them, They've got some issues. 653 00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:54,760 Speaker 1: Atlanta's got some issues defensively so the last three weeks. 654 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,400 Speaker 1: But they held them to sixteen. But they held and 655 00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:00,600 Speaker 1: that's key that they held him sixteen and and that 656 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:02,759 Speaker 1: does worry me a little bit, but it was the 657 00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:04,799 Speaker 1: big play Nick Chubby at that ninety two yard run 658 00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:06,839 Speaker 1: against them. And the Atlanta game is the one where 659 00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,680 Speaker 1: I go, this is something about this game is a 660 00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:13,600 Speaker 1: little a little off the fact that they they pounded 661 00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:15,719 Speaker 1: Atlanta the way that they did. Because Atlanta was coming 662 00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:18,680 Speaker 1: off there winn against Washington, Atlanta that big way against Washington. 663 00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:21,239 Speaker 1: I thought, there's no way Cleland. I did watch how 664 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:23,960 Speaker 1: he was that the buy because I was. I watched 665 00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:26,239 Speaker 1: a bunch of that game, and my feeling on the 666 00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:29,480 Speaker 1: Atlanta game was that Atlanta I just didn't have it 667 00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:30,920 Speaker 1: going on that day. I mean, I'm not going to 668 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:33,759 Speaker 1: take anything away from Cleveland. That wasn't the full boat 669 00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:38,160 Speaker 1: Atlanta performance. Whatever this year's top level game is, they 670 00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:41,120 Speaker 1: were not even close to it. They were missing stuff 671 00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:44,520 Speaker 1: that they don't normally, short throws things like that. I'm 672 00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:47,120 Speaker 1: not saying Cleveland didn't play well, but Texans have to 673 00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:49,600 Speaker 1: avoid the big mistakes here exactly. Didn't play clean. They 674 00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:52,399 Speaker 1: should be at least in the game in the fourth quarter. Yeah, 675 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:54,120 Speaker 1: And I think that's the biggest thing. If you're not 676 00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:56,360 Speaker 1: turning the ball over to them and you're making Baker 677 00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:59,480 Speaker 1: go full field and now he's looking at Texas defense. 678 00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:02,279 Speaker 1: Look the Falcons defense. Thinking of three teams that they 679 00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:05,920 Speaker 1: have faced since Freddy Kitchen took oh Chiefs Chiefs Defense, 680 00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:09,480 Speaker 1: Falcons Defense, Bengals defense, they're in a one of them 681 00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:11,239 Speaker 1: that holds a candle. You. I mean, you can look 682 00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,719 Speaker 1: at those rosters and go, I don't know if there's 683 00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:16,080 Speaker 1: anybody I want to take off those rosters on defense 684 00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:19,160 Speaker 1: and put it on our roster. Wow. So I mean 685 00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:21,480 Speaker 1: there might be a guy or two, but off of 686 00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:23,960 Speaker 1: three teams you're going to night, would I watch Geno Atkins? Well, 687 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:27,160 Speaker 1: heck yeah. But here's a case in point seven nothing. 688 00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:29,960 Speaker 1: The Browns the ball inside a ten yard line and 689 00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:34,680 Speaker 1: the Bengals dropped Geno Atkins into coverage. Yeah, Baker moves 690 00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:37,600 Speaker 1: around back at the end, Zoe touchdown. If you can't 691 00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:40,200 Speaker 1: get pressure on them, it's over. Yeah. And you're dropping 692 00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:43,360 Speaker 1: your best pass rusher in a coverage Yeah, that's sometimes 693 00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:45,880 Speaker 1: backfire goes Johnny. Thanks a lot, you gotta Mark, Thank you, 694 00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:48,560 Speaker 1: John Harris. Let them know. Check out of stuff on 695 00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:51,520 Speaker 1: Houston Texans dot com and Hill host tomorrow at six. 696 00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:54,319 Speaker 1: It's very program. Parents, grab your kids and their friends 697 00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:55,920 Speaker 1: and join us for a free day of fun at 698 00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:59,200 Speaker 1: Levy Park Monday, December third. That's just coming Monday from 699 00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:01,319 Speaker 1: four to six Play sixty at the Park, presented by 700 00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:05,040 Speaker 1: Texas Children's Hospital, featuring special appearances by a Texans player, 701 00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:08,759 Speaker 1: cheerleader's toro, and a whole lot more. Additional information is 702 00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:13,440 Speaker 1: available on Houston Texans dot com the events calendar, navigate 703 00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:16,320 Speaker 1: to the website. On that, let's navigate over to Houston 704 00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:19,400 Speaker 1: Methodist Minutes. We all know that skin cancer was a 705 00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:23,800 Speaker 1: big challenge for mister McNair, So let's bring aboard doctor 706 00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:27,279 Speaker 1: Anthony Echo from Houston Methodist. Doctor Echo, how are you. 707 00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:29,560 Speaker 1: I'm doing very well. Thank you well, great to have 708 00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:32,520 Speaker 1: you on. And the subject is skin cancer. We all 709 00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:36,319 Speaker 1: know mister McNair had bouts with skin cancer throughout the 710 00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:38,600 Speaker 1: later part of his life, and he always said he's 711 00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:41,680 Speaker 1: a lifeguard earlier in his life. Tell me something. Is 712 00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:43,640 Speaker 1: that a thing where if you were out in the 713 00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:45,920 Speaker 1: sun a lot as a teenager, as a youth, it 714 00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:48,319 Speaker 1: might not catch up with you till later. How does 715 00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:52,560 Speaker 1: all that work? Doctor? Lifelong sun exposure is the biggest 716 00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:55,560 Speaker 1: cause of skin cancer that we know of, and a 717 00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:59,080 Speaker 1: lot of people in this youth have had various jobs 718 00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:01,400 Speaker 1: or we're at the lake or beach all the time 719 00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:04,239 Speaker 1: and had sun exposure when they're young, and that extensive 720 00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:08,840 Speaker 1: exposure when they're young contributes to skin cancer later in life. 721 00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:12,719 Speaker 1: The stat here one in five Americans will develop skin 722 00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:16,359 Speaker 1: cancer by the age of seventies. So obviously not all 723 00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:19,680 Speaker 1: of this is fatal, but catching it quickly is crucial. 724 00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:22,680 Speaker 1: So take us through what people should do to prevent 725 00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:25,239 Speaker 1: skin cancer from getting worse than it possibly could be. 726 00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:29,640 Speaker 1: As if people get older, they start to develop skin lesions, 727 00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:34,480 Speaker 1: and it's important to one, don't let something slide and 728 00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:36,960 Speaker 1: it off. Have your doctor look at it, whether it's 729 00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:42,000 Speaker 1: your family doctor or dermatologist. Take a look lesions. Sometimes 730 00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:44,879 Speaker 1: these little legions need a biopsy, and if you catch 731 00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:47,200 Speaker 1: it early enough, a lot of times it can just 732 00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:52,040 Speaker 1: be frozen off or just simply excited and clinic and 733 00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:55,719 Speaker 1: not anything major. So it's very critical to talk your 734 00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:58,920 Speaker 1: doctor if you have a family member or if it's 735 00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:02,800 Speaker 1: the person themselves. If something's a non healing wound, doesn't 736 00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:05,880 Speaker 1: look right, a changing mole or lesion, just get it 737 00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:08,839 Speaker 1: checked out in biopsy. How often should people get checked out? 738 00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:11,600 Speaker 1: Everyone a little bit different. I think there. If there's 739 00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:16,600 Speaker 1: a family history of skin cancer or a personal history 740 00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:19,480 Speaker 1: of skin cancer, most people should get checked out at 741 00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:23,200 Speaker 1: least once a year. It all varies in People with 742 00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:28,040 Speaker 1: lighter skin tones, usually of Norwegian type descent or Eastern 743 00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:31,080 Speaker 1: or I'm sorry, a Western European usually have a little 744 00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:37,800 Speaker 1: more sensitive skin compared to people with more pigmentation. But everyone, 745 00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:40,360 Speaker 1: anyone can develop skin cancer, so we usually recommend at 746 00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:42,600 Speaker 1: least once a year to get a head to toe 747 00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:45,640 Speaker 1: skin examination. Thank you very much for the time, doctor, 748 00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:48,560 Speaker 1: great information. All right, have a good thing, doctor Anthony Echo. 749 00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:52,800 Speaker 1: Houston Methodist Cancer Center providing the most advanced cancer treatments 750 00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:56,000 Speaker 1: and comprehensive care available at seven locations across Greater Houston. 751 00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:59,759 Speaker 1: Visit Houston Methodist dot org slash cancer to learn more. 752 00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:03,480 Speaker 1: The official healthcare provider of the Houston, Texans, Houston Methodist 753 00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:05,920 Speaker 1: Leading Medicine. All right, on the way out here, a 754 00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:08,200 Speaker 1: couple of things. First of all, I can't say enough 755 00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:11,000 Speaker 1: about our video crew. If you haven't seen, it's about 756 00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,840 Speaker 1: three minutes the video recap of what went on Monday 757 00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:16,000 Speaker 1: Night with the victory and the tribute to mister McNair 758 00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:19,239 Speaker 1: and it's so well captured by Tyler Suttart, one of 759 00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:22,719 Speaker 1: our videographers here at the Houston Texans, and a bunch 760 00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:26,160 Speaker 1: of people contributed to it. And I gotta say that 761 00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:28,280 Speaker 1: I've gotten a lot of love and I really appreciate 762 00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:30,600 Speaker 1: it for the touchdown call on the ninety seven yard 763 00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:32,840 Speaker 1: run by Lamar Miller. And it was just such an 764 00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:34,600 Speaker 1: honor to be able to be in the booth for 765 00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:36,719 Speaker 1: that moment. This is just one of those times that 766 00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:41,120 Speaker 1: as an announcer you just feel so great because the 767 00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:44,080 Speaker 1: moment was there and it was all for mister McNair 768 00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:48,239 Speaker 1: that this colossal play happened, this historic play in the 769 00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:50,839 Speaker 1: history of the franchise, and so many things going through 770 00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:53,160 Speaker 1: my mind while Lamar is running and I'm thinking of 771 00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:56,040 Speaker 1: Earl Campbell, I'm Monday Night football, I'm thinking of mister McNair. 772 00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:59,480 Speaker 1: I'm thinking of this just doesn't happen. You know, it 773 00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:01,640 Speaker 1: could have been a Seve been all right, second to 774 00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:04,080 Speaker 1: nine after a one yard run by Lamar Miller. Instead, 775 00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:07,919 Speaker 1: it was this historic moment and what a tribute to him. 776 00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:11,040 Speaker 1: And you know, it's not about me, of course, but 777 00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:12,840 Speaker 1: I loved being in the booth for that, and I 778 00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:15,520 Speaker 1: love that the fans got a chance to be in 779 00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:17,120 Speaker 1: the stance for that, and everybody got to see it 780 00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:18,839 Speaker 1: on Monday Night Football and you get to relive it 781 00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:21,560 Speaker 1: on all this video stuff on Houston Texans dot com. 782 00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:24,319 Speaker 1: The music they use for these video tributes. Just go 783 00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:27,359 Speaker 1: to the website, scroll through check out some of our 784 00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:29,960 Speaker 1: videos on this. They also did kind of a humorous 785 00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,480 Speaker 1: take on the run with Lamar running so fast with 786 00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:34,480 Speaker 1: the roadrunner. I mean, he was just flying. He was 787 00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:37,719 Speaker 1: just flying, and you heard Bill O'Brien talk about it 788 00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:40,439 Speaker 1: that you know he's getting rased, and Lamar himself said 789 00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:42,680 Speaker 1: it about previous runs where he got run down from 790 00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:44,319 Speaker 1: behind or cuff from behind ball. He didn't get cough 791 00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:47,760 Speaker 1: from behind in this one. And he's having a tremendous season. 792 00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,400 Speaker 1: So let's keep it rolling here with the Houston Texans 793 00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:52,640 Speaker 1: as they look for nine in a row. I can't 794 00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:54,200 Speaker 1: believe I'm saying that, but it's true. Nine in a 795 00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:57,920 Speaker 1: row on Sunday against the Cleveland Browns. That is the 796 00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:00,880 Speaker 1: quest noon kickoff for that. I want to thank everyone 797 00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:03,759 Speaker 1: for listening and contributing to the program tonight. Have a 798 00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:05,880 Speaker 1: great evening. Everyone, and go Texans.