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Speaker 3: Last Friday, ICE agents arrived in Los Angeles with a

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Speaker 4: This is the Abbas Apperil store where the FBI, Homeland

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Speaker 5: Were just now seeing some people that are being detained.

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Speaker 3: Their first stop was at an apparel manufacturer in the

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Speaker 6: Three blocks away, I saw the labors running from our

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Speaker 3: DHS reported that it detained more than one hundred immigrants

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Speaker 4: Yeah, there are several hundred people that are outside the

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Speaker 3: Protests were in reaction not only to the ICE raids

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Speaker 5: Los Angeles is a heart of the Mexican and Central

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Speaker 5: We don't want violence, but we also aren't going to

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Speaker 3: Protests remain mostly peaceful, but in the evening, demonstrators began

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Speaker 3: the agents. Now at eleven Chaos so Robson's armed federal

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump's government isn't protecting our communities. They're traumatizing our communities,

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Speaker 2: and that seems to be the entire point. California will

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Speaker 4: Behalf of our people, all of our people, including in the.

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Speaker 3: Courts from FUDRO media and PRX. It's Latino USA. I'm

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Speaker 3: Mariano Josa. Today protests police and the federal government's uninvited

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for having me. So first of.

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Speaker 3: All, we're going to talk about what's been happening. But

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Speaker 3: I did see your social media posts that while you

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Speaker 2: I'm doing fine. It was a less lethal round LAPD.

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Speaker 6: The Los Angeles Police Department was shooting a lot of

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Speaker 2: If you see the video where I.

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Speaker 6: Get shot in the chest, I'm like in the middle

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Speaker 3: Have the protests that you have been witnessing the protesters

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Speaker 3: So, seidyo, is there something about Los Angeles summer twenty

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Speaker 6: So if you're thinking about this, is this something new

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Speaker 6: The talk right now is about these raids and this

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Speaker 3: It's important said here if you could just remind anyone

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Speaker 6: These protests were sparked off because of raids that occurred

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Speaker 6: This was very public and the idea of militarized federal

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Speaker 3: Trump has really made it a priority to go full

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Speaker 3: because basically what you're pointing to is an increased militarization

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Speaker 6: So I'll give two specific California examples of how this

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Speaker 6: When you get pulled over here, no agency will ask

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Speaker 6: And what we're seeing now with these rates and home

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Speaker 3: I wonder if you can give a sense to our

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Speaker 2: So what we're seeing in LA is not an insurrection.

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Speaker 2: It is a protest.

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Speaker 6: These are people coming out saying I don't like what

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Speaker 6: that's not the case. Well, it was in Ukraine where

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Speaker 6: it started in Madan, a protest there when the government overreached,

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Speaker 6: we disagree, and it was a violent protest. They forged

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Speaker 6: We are not a meek people. Immigrants also are not

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Speaker 6: not American. This is not an insurrection. This is the

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Speaker 6: The call insurrection is a term of persuasion. They're trying

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Speaker 6: It is not like that. What I'm saying is a

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Speaker 6: so I'm very optimistic that when someone with force tries

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Speaker 3: Sa if you're almost investigative reporter for cal Matters. Thank

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Speaker 3: you so much for taking some time for speaking to

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Speaker 3: me here at leat you know usay while you're out

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Speaker 3: the summer that is going to potentially change our country forever.

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Speaker 3: Thank you said here for being on the ground and

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