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Speaker 2: I would argue, Brian, though, that it would be difficult

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Speaker 2: to find two bigger college football fans on this network

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Speaker 2: then you or me.

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Speaker 3: There's some that are equal, but.

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Speaker 2: I would have a tough time maybe finding someone who

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Speaker 2: loves college football more than you and I.

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Speaker 3: And we come.

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Speaker 2: Out on completely opposite ends of the spectrum in one

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Speaker 2: of the biggest spories stories in sports this week, and

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Speaker 2: that's not just the fourteen team buy being proposed for

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Speaker 2: the College Football Playoff, but it's the first round buys

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Speaker 2: that could possibly be headed to the SEC in the

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Speaker 2: Big ten. Good afternoon, Happy Sunday to you, Brian, No.

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Speaker 1: Same to you.

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Speaker 4: Dan Byer, I'm happy to be here with you, and

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Speaker 4: we are on polar opposite ends on this issue, and

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Speaker 4: it sounds like we're first taking it here, you know

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Speaker 4: what I mean, Like you take this position, I take

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Speaker 4: that position. No, it's how we honestly feel about the

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Speaker 4: first round byes. We are on completely opposite ends to

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Speaker 4: the table here.

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Speaker 2: In the news that came out this week were that

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Speaker 2: the SEC and the Big Ten, we're saying, hey, if

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Speaker 2: we're going to have first round bys, then they should

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Speaker 2: go to the champions of our conference. And now you're

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Speaker 2: getting pushed back from the ACC, and push back from

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Speaker 2: the Big twelve, and heck, maybe even push back from

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Speaker 2: the Group of Five, and push back from Brian know

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Speaker 2: who wants absolutely nothing to do with it. And I

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Speaker 2: actually think it's really the only fair thing to do

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Speaker 2: in this new world of college football, that sooner or

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Speaker 2: later people are going to have to accept that this

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Speaker 2: is what it is. And just the SEC and the

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Speaker 2: Big Ten are so stacked right now in entering the

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Speaker 2: up coming season that if you look ahead and you

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Speaker 2: look down the road, there is no way that you

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Speaker 2: can argue that the SEC and Big Ten are even

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Speaker 2: close to the other conferences, so they should be getting

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Speaker 2: first round byes, and it is actually something that makes sense.

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Speaker 2: Am I not loved the fourteen team bracket, but let's

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Speaker 2: be real here, the SEC and the Big ten are

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Speaker 2: going to be light years ahead of these other conferences

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Speaker 2: and deserve a first round by if it does go

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Speaker 2: to fourteen teams.

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Speaker 4: Okay, the first thing I think of is where do

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Speaker 4: I slot among everything else that you mentioned? You know,

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Speaker 4: am I like the Big twelve is over me? But

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Speaker 4: am I slightly ahead of the group of five in

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Speaker 4: terms of my annoying voice.

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Speaker 5: Just banging the table like no, this is stupid.

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Speaker 4: Here I go to a quote from Mike Gundy, head

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Speaker 4: coach of Oklahoma State, and I love how he said this.

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Speaker 4: He says, quote, a playoff format that guarantees a first

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Speaker 4: round by to any team, division or conference before the

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Speaker 4: season starts is unheard of in any sport as far

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Speaker 4: as I'm aware. Based on the premise proposed, a team

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Speaker 4: could be undefeated and ranked number one in the country

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Speaker 4: and still not receive a first round by because teams

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Speaker 4: were awarded one before the season even began. Like end quote, Yes,

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Speaker 4: Mike Gundhy absolutely shout out to you.

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Speaker 5: And your mullet. He is right on that. He's on

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Speaker 5: top of this one.

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Speaker 4: Like, I don't understand why if more times than not

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Speaker 5: Why would that need to be predetermined? Just earn it

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Speaker 5: on your own?

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Speaker 4: Why is that slotted? Can you imagine if we did

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Speaker 4: this in the NFL. What if they said before a season, Hey,

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Speaker 4: whoever wins the AFC West you get a bye, and

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Speaker 4: whoever wins the NFC East, you guys get a bye.

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Speaker 4: And they'd be like, well, the Niners, they actually have

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Speaker 4: the best record in twenty twenty four in the NFC,

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Speaker 4: that doesn't matter. We already predetermined that the winner of

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Speaker 4: the NFC East would get the buy. That makes no sense.

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Speaker 4: Should I believe there's no chance at all?

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Speaker 2: There are year seats, Brian know where there are two

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Speaker 2: of the conference that they are in, Like there are parallels.

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Speaker 2: Mike Gundhy doesn't realize that there's an actual parallel to

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Speaker 2: what he's talking about. He's mad that this would be predetermined.

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Speaker 5: It would be trevy.

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Speaker 2: It would be predetermined that the Big Twelve gets two

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Speaker 2: automatic qualifiers in the bracket before the season even begins.

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Speaker 2: Like that sounds absurd. The Big Twelve, no matter how

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Speaker 2: crappy your conference may be, you're not only only gonna

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Speaker 2: another team in there. When the SEC or the Big

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Speaker 2: Ten may have five or six schools better than the

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Speaker 2: second team in the second best team in the Big Twelve,

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Speaker 2: they're already pred determining things. So it's not a new thing.

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Speaker 2: It's not that they're making it up. That's where Gundy's

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Speaker 2: point is. Often in the NFL, you gotta have two

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Speaker 2: of the best teams in the NFL. Colton Patriots, you

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Speaker 2: know for years manning against Brady, Well, guess what if

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Speaker 2: team in the NFC that had the best record gotta

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Speaker 2: buy Because that's what's set up. That's all that the

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Speaker 2: Big Ten of the SEC are going to be light

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Speaker 2: years ahead. And if you have a conference where you

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Speaker 2: have a twelve and one team in the Big Ten

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Speaker 2: or SEC, their schedule is going to be so much

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Speaker 2: better than what would be a Florida State scenario that

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Speaker 2: we have to face, the unbeaten scenario that Mike Gundy

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Speaker 2: talks about. That's what they're trying to avoid is well,

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Speaker 2: look at the zero in our lost column. Well, you

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Speaker 2: only played Clempson this year.

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Speaker 5: Well that's you gotta earn it. You gotta earn it.

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Speaker 4: Last year Washington was number two, like going into the

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Speaker 4: College Football Playoff, that was a Pac twelve school, that

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Speaker 4: this proposed format of like automatic buys, they wouldn't have

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Speaker 4: gotten a bye. So the number two ranked team wouldn't

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Speaker 4: have gotten a bye that goes to the top two teams.

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Speaker 5: That makes no sense.

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Speaker 4: The NFL, they don't have pre determined buys.

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Speaker 5: You earn it, like that's the thing.

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Speaker 4: If the SEC and the Big Ten have a representative

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Speaker 4: that earns it, great, have ad it.

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Speaker 5: But to determine that.

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Speaker 4: Before the season, as if what Florida State couldn't be

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Speaker 4: number two, go on and on. They can't teams that

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Speaker 4: even though they're ranked number one debts.

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Speaker 5: That makes zero sense.

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Speaker 2: And the reason that they can't is like it or not,

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Speaker 2: it's what college football is. When you have the Big

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Speaker 2: Ten in the SEC so stacked and you even mentioned

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Speaker 2: this bracket. What are the four teams that made the

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Speaker 2: be in the Big Ten or the SEC. And the

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Speaker 2: gaps that were between the Pac twelve and the ACC

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Speaker 2: and the SEC over the past years, we're I don't

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Speaker 2: a point where we thought maybe the Pac twelve was

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Speaker 2: the best conference in football this past year. Well, now

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Speaker 2: you lose USC, Oregon and Washington and then UCLA to

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Speaker 2: the Big Ten. The Big twelves champion was Texas. They

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Speaker 2: now go to the SEC. There's just no way that

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Speaker 2: you could take those losses of those schools. And I

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Speaker 2: love Utah, I love what Kyle Winningham has done. Arizona's

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Speaker 2: obviously going under some change with Jedfish no longer there,

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Speaker 2: but they had a great season last year. Them going

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Speaker 2: to the Big twelve and Dion Sanders coming in is

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Speaker 2: not enough to close the gap that the SEC and

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Speaker 2: the Big Ten have made by the additions of those schools.

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Speaker 4: I don't know why you want to predetermine that though.

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Speaker 4: And that's the thing is, if you look at the

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Speaker 4: SEC or the Big Ten, it's impressive the top team

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Speaker 4: that they have, but they still have teams that are

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Speaker 4: in the middle. They still have bottom feeders. You could

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Speaker 4: pick any school you want in either conference. They don't

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Speaker 4: play the best of the best the conference has to

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Speaker 4: they've got some bottom feeder opponents, and it's going to

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Speaker 5: Ten or the SEC.

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Speaker 4: So play it out and earn it. You don't have

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Speaker 2: Do you think that the ACC then would say, all right,

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Speaker 2: we will do away with our automatic qualifying bids because

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Speaker 2: we want the opportunity for our potential champ to be

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Speaker 4: I don't know what they would say, but I know

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Speaker 4: that you can have your cake and eat it too,

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Speaker 4: you know what I mean? Like this idea that we

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Speaker 4: I'll tell you this, Dan, I'll meet you a slightly halfway.

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Speaker 4: It sounds like we might be on the same page

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Speaker 4: maybe on this one. I hate that in this fourteen

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Speaker 4: team playoff ort, we would have eleven automatic qualifying spots,

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Speaker 4: we'd only have three at large bids. And regardless of

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Speaker 4: the conference it could be whatever, Big twelve could be,

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Speaker 4: Big ten like to automatically qualify two or three teams

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Speaker 4: depending on your conference. What if you don't have a

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Speaker 5: I don't like that either.

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Speaker 2: That's Louisville and the ACC this past year. You know,

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Speaker 2: they play in the ACC Championship game. And that's the question, like,

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Speaker 2: does the ACC with the ACC want to risk only

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Speaker 2: having one team maybe being their Numero Uno thirteen and

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Speaker 2: have two institutions automatically be placed in the bracket. And

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Speaker 2: I think that's what the Big ten and the SEC

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Speaker 2: are saying is they're saying, listen, the gaps between our

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Speaker 2: we understand that that if we're going to give them

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Speaker 2: two automatic qualifiers per league, that we at least need

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Speaker 2: something a little bit more, because there could be a Michigan,

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Speaker 2: they watch Louisville get into the bracket instead of the

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Speaker 2: Ducks because you know that could play out, or Oregon

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Speaker 2: in a Penn State because now you're also competing with

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Speaker 2: other SEC teams. That's where Gundhy was wrong in this

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Speaker 2: and saying that this has never happened before, but it's

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Speaker 2: actually happening within the bracket. To your point, Brian, they

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Speaker 2: should just take the fourteen best teams and if you

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Speaker 2: wanted to keep one from the group of five, then

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Speaker 2: move that in. But when you start as signing automatic qualifiers,

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Speaker 2: you're then limiting the power of the actual powers in

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Speaker 2: college football. And I don't know if people are just

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Speaker 2: so anti against the fourteen. I know you and I

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Speaker 2: don't love it, but it's the reality of what college

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Speaker 4: I hate it, Dan, because it goes against everything that's

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Speaker 2: throws apart already for Arbor Day. You're like, well, why

442
00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:04,320
Speaker 2: are you throwing a party for Arbor Day? Well, I

443
00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:06,160
Speaker 2: just like throwing parties. Hav any reason to throw a party.

444
00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:08,080
Speaker 2: And then you're like, all right, cool, no problem. Like

445
00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:10,600
Speaker 2: forty thousand, like if he's already scored the most points.

446
00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:14,320
Speaker 2: I don't know what the forty thousand point threshold actually means,

447
00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:18,760
Speaker 2: but Lebron James passed it last night and again as

448
00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:23,080
Speaker 2: humble as ever in making a mark in the NBA,

449
00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:24,920
Speaker 2: despite losing to the Denver Nuggets.

450
00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:28,440
Speaker 7: To be quite honest with you, everybody wanted to see

451
00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:30,760
Speaker 7: me fail. When I got to the league. Everybody was

452
00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:33,920
Speaker 7: just like, it's not it's no way he's going to

453
00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:38,680
Speaker 7: be able to exceed, you know, the expectations that's put

454
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Speaker 7: upon him.

455
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Speaker 5: Okay, I missed that part, Dan.

456
00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:47,040
Speaker 3: I missed the I was. I thought I was alive

457
00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:47,920
Speaker 3: in three h four.

458
00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:50,200
Speaker 2: I was, But I also may have missed this part

459
00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:52,680
Speaker 2: where everybody was cheering against him.

460
00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:53,680
Speaker 5: Yeah.

461
00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:55,960
Speaker 4: Well, the first thing, I like what you said about

462
00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:59,240
Speaker 4: throwing a party, you know, getting to forty thousand points

463
00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:02,040
Speaker 4: right there. It's kind of like Sinko to Sace. You know,

464
00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:06,359
Speaker 4: if you throw it's just sure a block party. It's like, okay, okay,

465
00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:07,320
Speaker 4: we can run it back.

466
00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:07,800
Speaker 5: I guess.

467
00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:12,160
Speaker 4: But yeah, Lebron, listen. First off, it's an amazing accomplishment.

468
00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:15,480
Speaker 4: And I swear only Lebron could say something so stupid

469
00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:20,320
Speaker 4: to take away our focus of how amazing this milestone is.

470
00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:23,560
Speaker 4: What is he talking about? Everybody wanted him to fail.

471
00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:27,520
Speaker 4: His games were on his high school games are on ESPN.

472
00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:29,200
Speaker 5: You think the.

473
00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:32,280
Speaker 4: NBA executives were like, man, oh, if only this guy

474
00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:35,720
Speaker 4: from Akron who has monstrous hype could not live up

475
00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:38,800
Speaker 4: to it and just fail miserably, that'd be awesome for us.

476
00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:41,879
Speaker 4: This is I think Dan, and you mentioned it. If

477
00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:44,239
Speaker 4: you think about the social media day and age, and

478
00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:47,560
Speaker 4: of course Lebron he brings out the venom and a

479
00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:50,560
Speaker 4: lot of people if you get a steady diet of that.

480
00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:54,640
Speaker 4: I think sometimes you just believe that's what the masses

481
00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:58,240
Speaker 4: think instead of a small segment of So maybe that's

482
00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:01,439
Speaker 4: gotten him to think this, But there's no chance that

483
00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:04,240
Speaker 4: everybody wanted the guy to fail from the beginning.

484
00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:05,320
Speaker 5: That's not true at all.

485
00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:10,320
Speaker 2: Here's here's where I like think like Lebron misses at

486
00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:12,600
Speaker 2: times anywhere it's all all about him, Like when he

487
00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:15,240
Speaker 2: passes Kareem for the all time scoring mark, he's in

488
00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:18,320
Speaker 2: a Laker uniform. You could be very humble. You can,

489
00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:22,359
Speaker 2: you know, keep your praises on Kareem. I get it,

490
00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:25,200
Speaker 2: Like nobody else has forty thousand points. There's nobody else there,

491
00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:27,399
Speaker 2: So there's nobody that you could pass it along to.

492
00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:30,600
Speaker 2: But what you can do is saying, like, I think

493
00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:34,040
Speaker 2: forty thousand points is a testament to you know, my

494
00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:36,119
Speaker 2: long career and I wouldn't have a long career if

495
00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:40,399
Speaker 2: it wasn't without great teammates, with great coaches, with great trainers,

496
00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:42,960
Speaker 2: with everybody who's helped me along the way. I mean,

497
00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:45,000
Speaker 2: this starts when I was just coming into the league.

498
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Speaker 2: Then you name a couple of people, I think that's

499
00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:49,600
Speaker 2: the proper way to do it instead of saying you

500
00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:52,399
Speaker 2: all counted me out forty thousand points that are boom

501
00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:54,320
Speaker 2: in your face, boom roasted.

502
00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:58,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, I just had a flashback with you saying that.

503
00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:01,639
Speaker 4: It made me think of Kevin Rant and not that

504
00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:05,520
Speaker 4: long ago he passed Hakeem Elijahwan on the all time

505
00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:08,840
Speaker 4: scoring list, and he just had a funny story where

506
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:11,560
Speaker 4: he was like, my mom had a crush on Hakim

507
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,880
Speaker 4: when I was growing up, and he was like, whenever

508
00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:19,399
Speaker 4: you pass one of the greats, it's awesome, and he

509
00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:23,119
Speaker 4: just kind of reflected on like his mom and the

510
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:25,919
Speaker 4: game itself, and it was just like a cool moment.

511
00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:29,400
Speaker 4: It's like, Hey, I'm happy for KD to reach that milestone,

512
00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:31,640
Speaker 4: and we should be like that with Lebron.

513
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:35,000
Speaker 5: But Lebron, I swear, could write.

514
00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:38,199
Speaker 4: A book in hustling backwards when it's one of these like,

515
00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:40,959
Speaker 4: oh ah, you guys wanted me to fail. No we didn't,

516
00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:44,320
Speaker 4: and that takes our focus away from an amazing accomplishment

517
00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:46,879
Speaker 4: that only one guy on the face of the earth

518
00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:48,119
Speaker 4: has accomplished.

519
00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:49,960
Speaker 5: That's that's really bad. I was.

520
00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:53,119
Speaker 2: I was in Cleveland in the summer of three and

521
00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:55,000
Speaker 2: bought a bunch of Lebron James stuff.

522
00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:56,480
Speaker 3: Was I a Cavs fan?

523
00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:59,760
Speaker 2: Heck no, yeah, right, there's no reason due but yeah,

524
00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:02,600
Speaker 2: that's where you know, I loaded up. And I would

525
00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:03,760
Speaker 2: have to think that there are a lot of other

526
00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:05,960
Speaker 2: people like me, and you know, and and the point

527
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:11,000
Speaker 2: as well is when he talks about people being against him,

528
00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:14,920
Speaker 2: it wasn't until the heel turn of the Miami Heat,

529
00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:17,920
Speaker 2: maybe a bit, but they were still they were underdogs

530
00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:19,760
Speaker 2: in the finals, you know, to the to the San

531
00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:22,680
Speaker 2: Antonio Spurs in two thousand and seven, and they ended

532
00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:24,720
Speaker 2: up getting swept in that series. And I still think

533
00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:26,720
Speaker 2: that there was a lot of love for him, but

534
00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:28,600
Speaker 2: it was the heel turn when he ends up going

535
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:31,000
Speaker 2: to the Heat, that changes some of the narrative. And

536
00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:32,400
Speaker 2: even still with that, there are a lot of people

537
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:35,040
Speaker 2: who still followed him. And then he you know, mended

538
00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:37,879
Speaker 2: the hearts back in Cleveland. So this a lot of

539
00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:40,240
Speaker 2: people listen, A lot of people said that he wouldn't

540
00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:42,720
Speaker 2: be able to do this because it was unthinkable. I'll

541
00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:45,359
Speaker 2: give him credit in the in the fact of to

542
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,760
Speaker 2: have somebody live up to the hype like he has, right,

543
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:50,400
Speaker 2: just very very few have done.

544
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:51,960
Speaker 3: But I feel that we've said that.

545
00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:55,600
Speaker 2: That's not hating, that's just I think having realistic expectations

546
00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:58,960
Speaker 2: of what you would think in NBA career would be.

547
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:02,360
Speaker 2: I don't think anybody thought forty thousand points. And if

548
00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:04,560
Speaker 2: he didn't say it in two thousand and three after

549
00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:07,080
Speaker 2: he was drafted, you're a hater. Just it's you know,

550
00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:09,679
Speaker 2: he's had such an amazing career. I don't know how

551
00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 2: anybody could have thought he would have done this right.

552
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:14,679
Speaker 4: And that's the thing is, I mean, think about it

553
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:18,480
Speaker 4: from Lebron's perspective for a little bit, where he has

554
00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 4: for his whole NBA career gotten a steady diet of

555
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:26,440
Speaker 4: not as good as Jordan, not as good as Jordan, right, repeat, repeat, repeat.

556
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,960
Speaker 4: No one thought anyone would pass kareems Mars. Sure, well,

557
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:33,000
Speaker 4: most people did. Maybe there was a couple here or there,

558
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:36,040
Speaker 4: but for the most part, the masses never thought that

559
00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:38,960
Speaker 4: mark would be reached. And he got there and then

560
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:42,560
Speaker 4: got to forty thousand points. That's insane. But there's a

561
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:46,440
Speaker 4: big difference between us being skeptical, like could anybody live

562
00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:49,480
Speaker 4: up to the hype that Lebron had coming into the

563
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:54,640
Speaker 4: NBA and saying everybody wanted me to fail, Like that's

564
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,120
Speaker 4: there's a big difference between those two.

565
00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:59,280
Speaker 5: So I'm just trying to see it from his point

566
00:26:59,320 --> 00:26:59,680
Speaker 5: of view.

567
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,639
Speaker 4: If he goes on X and starts, hey, let me

568
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 4: check out my mentions, and it's just like you this

569
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 4: and you that, and you're not Jordan it you get

570
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:11,920
Speaker 4: that for two decades, you might start to think, man,

571
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:16,000
Speaker 4: the masses are against me, But it's not the reality

572
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:17,639
Speaker 4: that everybody wanted him to fail.

573
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,040
Speaker 5: That was never the case ever since he's been in

574
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:20,639
Speaker 5: the NBA.

575
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 4: I think more than not, if you just break it

576
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 4: down percentage wise, Dan, I think more have wanted him

577
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:32,400
Speaker 4: to succeed than to fail. That would be a true debate.

578
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:34,879
Speaker 4: But to say everybody wanted him to fail, that's not

579
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 4: even close to be in the.

580
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:39,199
Speaker 2: Case again, and he brought it upon himself with the

581
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 2: decision that I actually think was great for the NBA.

582
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:44,399
Speaker 2: It wasn't great for the Cavaliers, but it didn't make

583
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:47,520
Speaker 2: him that villain up until that point. I remember that

584
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,119
Speaker 2: overtime game against the Pistons in Game five of the

585
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:52,159
Speaker 2: Eastern Conference Finals, It's one of those games that you

586
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 2: get wrapped up and he started cheering, you know, cheering

587
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 2: for the person, and you had no dog in the fight,

588
00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,199
Speaker 2: you know in it. I mean, Chris Perherfet's a you know,

589
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:04,199
Speaker 2: Pistons guy. I don't mean to exclude you from this,

590
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 2: but that's amazing basketball. When he's young in his career.

591
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:09,880
Speaker 2: You may dislike him as a Pistons fan, but there's

592
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:12,199
Speaker 2: no there's no hate or wanting him to fail at

593
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 2: any point.

594
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:12,880
Speaker 1: Yeah.

595
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:14,399
Speaker 8: I went to that Cavs parade, did you?

596
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 5: And they won?

597
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:16,639
Speaker 9: When they won that, I was living in Toledo at

598
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 9: the time. I even got asked by the local stations Leo,

599
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:20,720
Speaker 9: why I'm going there because I was working there. I'm like,

600
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 9: I'm never going to see anything like this again. He's

601
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:26,440
Speaker 9: an icon. He's something that is unique to the culture.

602
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:29,040
Speaker 9: And I got to experience that with millions of other

603
00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 9: people who just swarmed Cleveland that day. That was a

604
00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:34,440
Speaker 9: piece of history. I don't think I would ever root

605
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 9: against that.

606
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 5: Was that when JR.

607
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 4: Smith was shirtless, Yes, what I did, so, I was

608
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 4: at the rally point.

609
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 9: What I didn't know is the barrier broke the minute

610
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 9: they left the queue, and that's why it was taking

611
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 9: hours for them to get to the actual rally during

612
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 9: the parade.

613
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:54,200
Speaker 4: You know what, I'll say one thing real fast here, Dan,

614
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 4: because I just started thinking about it.

615
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 5: You could identify with this.

616
00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 4: As a radio guy, I call some of the listener's joysuckers,

617
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, where sometimes you finish the

618
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 4: show and then you go on X and it's.

619
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 5: Like you suck where's the normal host? You know what

620
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 5: I mean?

621
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:14,480
Speaker 4: And Lebron has had to deal with a lot like

622
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 4: countless joysuckers over the last twenty plus years while he's

623
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:20,640
Speaker 4: been in the NBA, and I hate that.

624
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 5: I hate that.

625
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 4: For as accomplished as he is and how much he

626
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 4: loves the game of basketball, there are joysuckers in bulk

627
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 4: that come along with that, and I hate that. But

628
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:35,560
Speaker 4: that's the reality of it. But still it goes way

629
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 4: too far to say everybody wanted to see me thing.

630
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 2: It's even worse when it comes from your mom. Sorry mom,

631
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 2: just kidding. I was just kidding.

632
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 5: Your mom is like a show.

633
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've mentioned it before. She has given me tips

634
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:50,960
Speaker 2: since she has told me. You know what, I didn't

635
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 2: agree with that point, but She's never said that show stunk.

636
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 2: Get a new hosts in there. She's never said that.

637
00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 4: It's never been one of those I disagree and you're

638
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:01,000
Speaker 4: a sad excuse for a human being.

639
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:02,720
Speaker 5: She hasn't taken it to that level.

640
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 2: Has not said get Bernie Fratto in that chair. She

641
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 2: has not said that yet. Right yet, maybe you shall say,

642
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 2: get Manzy Bolanos in that chair. Maybe maybe Manzy that

643
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 2: could be the case. Monty is here to give us

644
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:16,760
Speaker 2: the latest of what is going on, what's happened in

645
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 2: Monty on what.

646
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 10: Sorry, I'm trying to watch the Clipper game and trying

647
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:21,720
Speaker 10: to give an update and trying to comment on what

648
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 10: you just said about Lebron James Brian, Hi, guys, you

649
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 10: know I would be fine if people were what would

650
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:28,400
Speaker 10: you call them? Fun suckers?

651
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:29,240
Speaker 5: Would you joy?

652
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:32,600
Speaker 11: I went joy suckers? You know, here's the thing. Lebron

653
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 11: is a billionaire.

654
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:36,400
Speaker 10: We would all be okay if people were joysuckers against

655
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 10: us if we had just a little bit of the

656
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:41,160
Speaker 10: millions that Lebron has. So that's the only thing I

657
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:44,240
Speaker 10: think is different. But the Clippers have extended their lead

658
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 10: over the Timberwolves in Minnesota, eighty two seventy eight is

659
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:49,560
Speaker 10: a score less than five minutes to go in the game.

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Speaker 10: Kawhi Leonard twenty seven points, Anthony Edwards twenty five points.

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Speaker 10: The Celtics Warriors game has been over since halftime, but

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Speaker 10: it's still going and Boston is on top one twenty

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Speaker 10: eight to eighty one, four.

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Speaker 11: And a half minutes left in the game. None of

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Speaker 11: the starters are in.

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Speaker 10: But Steph Curry took nine three pointers and didn't make

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Speaker 10: a single one. He only made two shots from the field,

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Speaker 10: so yeah, I know, zero.

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Speaker 8: Of nine zers.

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Speaker 3: Threek is there like a game streaker?

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Speaker 11: Did he remember? He broke like he lost it. He

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Speaker 11: was on a streak for a long time.

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Speaker 10: And then he went a game without hitting a three

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Speaker 10: pointer and so that big, big long streak he.

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Speaker 3: Had it tweeted you saw Steph Curry.

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Speaker 11: Exactly what happened earlier.

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Speaker 10: Today, Luka Doncic dropped a triple double, but the MAVs

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Speaker 10: lost at home to the seventy six ers one twenty

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Speaker 10: to one sixteen.

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Speaker 11: Caitlin Clark dropped thirty five points today.

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Speaker 10: She became the Steve Steve Hartman hates this, but became

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Speaker 10: the men and Women's all time NC double A leading

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Speaker 10: score as number six Iowa defeated number two Ohio State

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Speaker 10: ninety eight or ninety three excuse me to eighty three.

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Speaker 10: On Fox, we got the NASCAR Cup Series still coming

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Speaker 10: from Las Vegas. We're officially in stage two and after

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Speaker 10: one hundred and forty two laps, Kyle Larson is in

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Speaker 10: the lead, with Kyle Busch right behind him and Denny Hamlin.

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Speaker 11: In third place.

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Speaker 10: So far, in the NFL, the Miami Dolphins are likely

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Speaker 10: unlikely to use a franchise tag on defensive tackle Christian Wilkins.

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Speaker 10: It would make him an unrestricted free agent, and the

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Speaker 10: NFL Network reports that the new kickoff rule crafted by

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Speaker 10: NFL Special teams coordinators would allow teams to attempt an

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Speaker 10: onside kick only when trailing in the fourth quarter, and

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Speaker 10: it would require them to declare it in advance.

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Speaker 3: H So do I declare bankrun like Michael Scott?

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Speaker 11: Michael, Oh God, so good, that's so good, thanks to you.

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Speaker 4: No surprise onside like Sean Payton in the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 5: We can't do that.

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Speaker 3: These rules are so fun declare.

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Speaker 2: These rules are so funky that I thought about adding

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Speaker 2: them to our show list. It would take up a

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Speaker 2: whole segment just to be like if the that, but

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Speaker 2: this than that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's a mess.

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Speaker 2: It's it's they're gonna be more confusing than the overtime

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Speaker 2: rules in the playoffs.

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Speaker 8: Why they move up to the forty yard line is

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Speaker 8: what I want to know.

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Speaker 3: Like, they don't want thirty Yeah, they don't.

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Speaker 2: They don't, Well, they don't want it would be the

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Speaker 2: opposing It would be up the thirty yards. You'd be

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Speaker 2: in plus territory. They don't want a thirty or twenty

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Speaker 2: yard head start. They only want five or six yards downfield.

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Speaker 2: That's all they want. So you would be across the

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Speaker 2: fifty yard line under this new proposal.

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Speaker 9: The whole thing about the XFL kickoff is they had

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Speaker 9: solved it. They had figured out how to make it interesting,

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Speaker 9: to take away a lot of the injuries from it.

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Speaker 9: And now the NFL is like, we want that, but

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Speaker 9: also we want touchbacks.

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Speaker 5: Still. I don't it's weird, you know, I don't hate

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Speaker 5: the XFL rule.

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Speaker 4: We only had twenty two percent of kickoffs that were

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Speaker 4: returned last year in the NFL twenty two percent.

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Speaker 5: It was a touchback fest.

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Speaker 4: So if you give us the XFL rule, Like you're

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Speaker 4: explaining Dan and you actually get kickoff returns. I'd rather

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Speaker 4: have that than what seventy eight percent being touchbacks.

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Speaker 5: That's just not a good product at all.

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Speaker 2: It's just confusing to figure out because some would go

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Speaker 2: back to the to the twenty, some would be to

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Speaker 2: the thirty five. So it just, oh kay, that's silly.

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Speaker 2: That part is layers upon layers. What is in silly

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Speaker 2: is what Monzi has to say.

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Speaker 3: She's got.

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Speaker 2: According to Monzi plus, has one part of the NFL

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Speaker 2: completely eaten up. Another part may sound weird, but we'll

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Speaker 2: explain coming up in a little bit. He's Briban now,

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Speaker 2: I'm Dan Bayer Relive from the Tirek dot Com Studios.

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Speaker 2: That's next here on Fox Sports Sunday, Fox Sports Sunday.

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Speaker 2: He's probably no, I'm Dan Bayer relyve forth Tireraq dot

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Speaker 2: Com Studios again, big Welcome to our brand new affiliate

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Speaker 2: in New Orleans, the new one to six point one

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Speaker 2: the Ticket teaming up with Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 3: Happy to be a part of that team. Hit Brian

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Speaker 3: up at the No Show.

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Speaker 2: You can find me at Dan Byer on Fox, and

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Speaker 2: you can find Monzi Bilanos at Monty Bilanos and you

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Speaker 2: can find her right now, Corn, and now.

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Speaker 1: It's time for absolutely that's it's according to Monsei.

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Speaker 5: I love it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Monsey, are you going to be able to do this?

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Speaker 11: I think so?

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Speaker 2: He listen, listen, I'm sorry, it's a regular season NBA game.

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Speaker 11: God, fine, man, we're talking about good he's.

758
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Speaker 2: Freaked out because the Clippers are off one of the Timberwolves.

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Speaker 11: With thirteen seconds left.

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Speaker 2: Try it on your favorite teams, like down three in

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Speaker 2: an NCAA tournament.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, eighty seven to eighty six.

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Speaker 8: What are we doing today?

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Speaker 10: Well, the Boston Celtics scored already enough for everybody, so

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Speaker 10: you know, we're just trying to balance it out.

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Speaker 3: Oh, that's it, got it, all right, let's get down

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Speaker 3: to it.

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Speaker 1: According to Months, is the.

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Speaker 3: Juice really worth the squeeze with Caleb Williams?

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Speaker 11: All right, listen.

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Speaker 10: Caleb Williams has been described as a generational talent.

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Speaker 11: I've been hearing this for months and months. He's incredible.

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Speaker 5: I see it.

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Speaker 10: He's got raw talent. But is he ready to be

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Speaker 10: the face of a franchise.

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Speaker 5: That's a big.

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Speaker 10: Responsibility that requires a lot of maturity, and it's like

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Speaker 10: being in a relationship where the most important things are

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Speaker 10: communication and trust. His communication has not been the best.

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Speaker 10: After losing to UCLA, he refused to speak to the media.

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Speaker 10: I hate that he refused to shake hands with Utah.

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Speaker 10: He's at the Combine, not participating because he says there's

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Speaker 10: plenty of tape for people to watch, and he refuses

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Speaker 10: to do the medical examinations with the team. It's believed

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Speaker 10: by CBS Sports that he's the first player at the

786
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Speaker 10: Combine who's been invited to decline medical exams.

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Speaker 11: He doesn't have an agent.

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Speaker 10: Maybe that's why he thinks it's okay, but it's hard

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Speaker 10: not to see it as entitlement. It's reported that he

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Speaker 10: has made over ten million dollars in nil money. He's

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Speaker 10: been described again as a generational talent, So maybe he's entitled.

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Speaker 10: But how's it going to fit in a locker room

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Speaker 10: full of men, some of which we had had to

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Speaker 10: work incredibly hard to make a small percentage of what

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Speaker 10: he already made as a college player. I don't think

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Speaker 10: the attention that the media has given him is helping

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Speaker 10: him either, because the expectation is almost too high, Like

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Speaker 10: will this game his game translate to the NFL? If

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Speaker 10: he is surrounded by a better team, because that's what

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Speaker 10: the expectation is.

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Speaker 11: But is he gonna have a chance to actually learn

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Speaker 11: and grow?

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Speaker 10: Does he have the maturity a guy who painted f

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Speaker 10: utah on his nails to be the face of a

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Speaker 10: franchise and become a team player.

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Speaker 11: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Maybe the S stand for fabulous Utah.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, sure, that doesn't fit on his fingernails.

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Speaker 2: I listen, if you're not shaking hands, if you're not

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Speaker 2: doing the press conference, that's one thing. But in this

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Speaker 2: whole about to be a pro process, you have to

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Speaker 2: do what you think is best for you to make sure,

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Speaker 2: especially because of where he is.

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Speaker 3: I have no problem with any of that stuff.

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Speaker 4: According to Monsei, I just want to know if Bob

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Speaker 4: Benson is shooting daggers in your direction right now. According

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Speaker 4: to Monci, Gilbert Arenas is proof that not everyone needs

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Speaker 4: a podcast.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 10: I know, this guy thinks that because you're European players

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Speaker 10: don't bring guns into locker rooms, it means they're soft. No, no, no,

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Speaker 10: that's not the reason the defense has gone down in

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Speaker 10: the NBA.

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Speaker 11: But this has been going on for years.

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Speaker 10: He actually said that NBA took away aggression to open

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Speaker 10: up the euro.

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Speaker 11: League, and that's not it at all.

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Speaker 10: Luka Doncich said that the NBA you could score a

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Speaker 10: lot more easily than in the.

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Speaker 11: EuroLeague because of the roles in this space.

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Speaker 10: In two thousand and one, the NBA added the defensive

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Speaker 10: three second rule and essentially took out zone defense because

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Speaker 10: a defender can't stand in the pain and wait for

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Speaker 10: you to drive. You have to be actively defending someone

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Speaker 10: and be within an arm's length of an offensive player.

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Speaker 11: The NBA has been shifting the league to.

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Speaker 10: Score more for years because it's more exciting, or so

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Speaker 10: they thought. Rookie starvik thro One Banyama said at the

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Speaker 10: start of the season NBA is faster, but the EuroLeague

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Speaker 10: is more physical.

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Speaker 11: The top two defensive players in the NBA are French.

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Speaker 10: The EVYB discussion the last couple of years has been

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Speaker 10: surrounded by non American players. He also said that it's

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Speaker 10: a three point shooting league because they're they're copying eurostyle

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Speaker 10: when EuroLeague prioritizes teamwork and fundamentals over shooting the ball.

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Speaker 10: I don't know if Gilbert Arenas has ever heard of

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Speaker 10: Steph Curry or the twenty eighteen Houston Rockets who missed

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Speaker 10: twenty seven consecutive threes.

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Speaker 11: And thank you to Gee More or Thieves from Spain

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Speaker 11: who posted a chart of nineteen.

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Speaker 10: Players who have shot four hundred plus threes this season,

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Speaker 10: only three are European.

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Speaker 2: No, no, it's them hating that they didn't play in

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Speaker 2: that in this generation.

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Speaker 3: That's all it is.

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Speaker 11: It's stupid.

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Speaker 12: Well according to Manzi, all right, according to Manzi, if

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Speaker 12: it doesn't have marin aara sauce on it, then it

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Speaker 12: is not pizza.

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Speaker 10: I don't know it needs to hear this, but pizza

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Speaker 10: mus have three things, some sort of bread, marinara, and cheese.

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Speaker 11: That's it. Whatever top beans you want.

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Speaker 10: As long as those three are in there, it's pizza.

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Speaker 11: Does it have white sauce, that's not pizza. You can

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Speaker 11: call it a flat bread, you can call it an appetizer.

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Speaker 10: Is it barbecue chicken, that's wonderful, that's not pizza.

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 2: I once ordered a pizza accidentally with barbecue sauce, like

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Speaker 2: I hit the toaggo.

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Speaker 12: I do that all the time.

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Speaker 3: Really yeah, I.

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Speaker 8: Will agree on the barbecue.

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Speaker 9: But as an Italian American, white sauces pizza.

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Speaker 10: But then what do you call it whatever, a flat bread,

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Speaker 10: an appetizer, a cheesy pull apart bread with white sauce.

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Speaker 8: I mean, very fine.

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Speaker 10: We can do a lot, but pizza Marin arrisaw S

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Speaker 10: must be a part of it.

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Speaker 5: There's no way, huh there.

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Speaker 2: It is another great episode of according to Manzi. By

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Speaker 2: the way, in that four minute segment, only eleven seconds

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Speaker 2: of game time went off the clock in the Clippers

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Speaker 2: tim Rowls game. It's finally over. Clippers win eighty nine

884
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Speaker 2: to eighty eight. But there was thirteen point one when

885
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886
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:27,800
Speaker 2: A lot going on, but the Clippers get.

887
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Speaker 3: A big road win in Minnesota.

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Speaker 10: That's right.

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Speaker 2: Manzi's happy, Chris is happy, Bo's happy. Me and Brian

890
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Speaker 2: know we're good with it all. But Brian's not good

891
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:38,800
Speaker 2: with something that's happening in the NFL. He'll tell you

892
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 2: what it is next year. On Fox Sports Radio, our

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Speaker 2: back to back perfect games here on Fox Sports Radio.

904
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905
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Speaker 2: go to Fox Sports Radio dot Com, click on podcasts,

907
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Speaker 2: and after the show just look for Fox Sports Radio Weekends.

908
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Speaker 2: That's where you can hear Brian. In my discussion on

909
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 2: the college football fourteen team playoff for the Big ten

910
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 2: in the SEC are asking for buys. Spend a good

911
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 2: twenty minutes in dissecting that. Brian's against it. I think

912
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:39,239
Speaker 2: that the Big ten of the SEC should have automatic

913
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 2: first round byes to their champion ce He's already disgusted

914
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:45,240
Speaker 2: just as say it, but it's the future of college football.

915
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 2: But you can hear that again right after the show

916
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Speaker 2: has done. Just go to Fox Sports Radio Weekends under

917
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Speaker 2: podcasts and click on that something else is kind of

918
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:55,840
Speaker 2: make you disgusted the NFL kind of eating itself.

919
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:57,400
Speaker 3: Would that be a good way of putting it?

920
00:41:58,600 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 5: Maybe?

921
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:02,320
Speaker 4: Maybe I was just thinking that if you think about

922
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:05,720
Speaker 4: the draft and how much focus there is on the draft,

923
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:07,320
Speaker 4: we go crazy for it.

924
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:08,239
Speaker 5: The combine.

925
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 4: We're dissecting who did what, what this could mean? Caleb Williams,

926
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 4: on and on and on mock drafts. Here's my mock

927
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:15,399
Speaker 4: draft two point.

928
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 5: Oho.

929
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:19,279
Speaker 4: You know, it's all about the draft, and meanwhile, free

930
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 4: agency is just about a week away. The draft is

931
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:26,240
Speaker 4: like seven weeks away roughly, right, And isn't it funny

932
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:30,319
Speaker 4: where we're just so draft, draft, draft, draft, and not

933
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 4: as much about free agency. We'll get into it when

934
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:36,279
Speaker 4: it rolls around, but only being a week out. Think

935
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:39,360
Speaker 4: about how that rivals being a week away from the

936
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:43,399
Speaker 4: NFL draft. Dan, that's all you're gonna hear, That's all

937
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 4: you're gonna be talking about for the most part, and

938
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 4: free agency just doesn't rival that. So I don't know,

939
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 4: it's not quite I was thinking about where the draft

940
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 4: is a little bit like the college football playoff, or

941
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 4: we're just all right, what's gonna happen in Washington, Texas?

942
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:03,720
Speaker 4: We're all in and the non college football playoff bowl

943
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:07,239
Speaker 4: games were like, Eh, that's just how it feels right

944
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 4: now with free agency, doesn't it.

945
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really weird because I don't think and heck,

946
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:17,359
Speaker 2: we were just talking about college football, and if you're

947
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 2: just tuning in for the first time, Brian a huge

948
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:23,719
Speaker 2: college football fan, Me a huge college football fan. I

949
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 2: don't think that we and I have no interest in

950
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:30,840
Speaker 2: the combine. There's no connection to college football fans in

951
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 2: the NFL combine.

952
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 3: I don't believe, like.

953
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 2: I don't think you tune into the combine because you

954
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:38,239
Speaker 2: love college football, and so I've always just tried to

955
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:41,800
Speaker 2: figure out, then, what is it about the combine? And

956
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 2: so when you bring this point up about us being

957
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 2: so wrapped up in the mock drafts and the what

958
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 2: guys running the forties and into what guys bench press

959
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 2: and who said this, and that we're taking completely unknown

960
00:43:57,719 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 2: you know, quantities of these players, we have no idea

961
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 2: really who they are outside of a few of them.

962
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:07,440
Speaker 2: Whereas free agency we have Kirk Cousins, you have Baker Mayfield,

963
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 2: you have Mike Evans, you have Justin Fields on the

964
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 2: trading block, Guys that we know about guys that we

965
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 2: are very very familiar with that we watch weekend and

966
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:18,880
Speaker 2: week out, that we had on our fantasy teams. And

967
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:22,279
Speaker 2: I don't know the answer. And that's the crazy thing

968
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 2: about it is, I don't think that the combine is great.

969
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 2: I am not a Combine fan. Yet it feeds into

970
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:31,920
Speaker 2: the craze of the NFL Draft, and I don't know

971
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:33,920
Speaker 2: if it's the show. I don't know if it's the

972
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:37,960
Speaker 2: drama and the presentation. I don't understand it myself. I

973
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:41,120
Speaker 2: know sometimes free agency doesn't live up to the billing.

974
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:43,239
Speaker 2: Maybe a guy just resigns with the team and he

975
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:46,719
Speaker 2: was the biggest fish that there was. But still like,

976
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 2: there is more familiarity with the players who are available

977
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 2: bouncing between teams than there is in anything from the

978
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 2: Combine or these players coming to the pros. Yet we

979
00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 2: love that one hundred times more than the Combine.

980
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think there's something where for the most part,

981
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 4: the unknown in the NFL is way more interesting than

982
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:11,360
Speaker 4: the known. And there are exceptions. If some for some reason,

983
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:15,239
Speaker 4: the Chiefs were trading Patrick Mahomes, that's the known, there'd

984
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:17,799
Speaker 4: be a lot that was said about that, there would

985
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:20,799
Speaker 4: be a lot of intrigue. But as far as like

986
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:23,239
Speaker 4: Mike Evans, he's put up numbers for a decade with

987
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:24,439
Speaker 4: Tampa and.

988
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:27,719
Speaker 5: It's like, Eh, where's he gonna go? Eh, we'll see, right,

989
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 5: But who's gonna take Roma Dounze? Right?

990
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:34,359
Speaker 4: Is it Maleak Neighbors or is it another receiver that's

991
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 4: gonna go first?

992
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:37,840
Speaker 5: Overall? Is it Marvin Harrison Junior? Is that the right play?

993
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:41,240
Speaker 4: Like all that stuff, the unknown, for the most part,

994
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 4: I think is more intriguing. And when you talk about

995
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 4: the draft, that's the ultimate puzzle to try to put together.

996
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 4: And it's like we all become many gms and say

997
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:54,239
Speaker 4: this team should do this and they shouldn't do that,

998
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 4: and they're out of their minds.

999
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 5: If they do this.

1000
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 4: And I think that we go back and look at

1001
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:02,920
Speaker 4: past drafts and say, man, the Bears could have drafted

1002
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:04,799
Speaker 4: Mahomes instead of Mitch Trubisky.

1003
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:05,720
Speaker 5: What were they thinking?

1004
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 4: You know, It's just it grows and grows and grows,

1005
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:12,360
Speaker 4: and the popularity of college football feeds into that because

1006
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 4: you are familiar with the top end guys.

1007
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:17,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, and there are things that are true, like the

1008
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 2: the hit rate and free agency I think is a

1009
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 2: lot less than it is in the draft. But that's

1010
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:24,880
Speaker 2: not what makes the draft exciting. Like when we talk

1011
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:28,320
Speaker 2: about like free agency in terms of like those players

1012
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 2: truly working out, there are a lot of teams that

1013
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 2: just will wait for teams with a lot of cap

1014
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:36,799
Speaker 2: space to go and spend money, and then they'll dive

1015
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:38,799
Speaker 2: into the pool a week later to see what's left

1016
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:41,680
Speaker 2: to see if there's anything of value or a of

1017
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 2: a bargain there. And that's you know, like the Seahawks

1018
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:48,719
Speaker 2: are my favorite team, and that's kind of been their

1019
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:52,719
Speaker 2: way that they've operated throughout free agency most of John

1020
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 2: Schneider's tenures. So maybe maybe that's a part of it,

1021
00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:58,440
Speaker 2: maybe because I just know that, hey, this opening a

1022
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:01,600
Speaker 2: free agency subconsciously is not gonna be anything that the

1023
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:04,360
Speaker 2: Seahawks are gonna go after. They're not gonna be you know,

1024
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:08,440
Speaker 2: talking with Mike Evans or bringing in Kirk Cousins. You know,

1025
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:10,319
Speaker 2: maybe in a weird way, maybe all of a sudden

1026
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 2: they're trying to talk with the Bears about justin fields.

1027
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:15,399
Speaker 2: But I'm only bringing up hypothetical situations that would get

1028
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:18,360
Speaker 2: me interested in this. But there they are sitting at sixteen,

1029
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 2: Brian and I'm like, okay, do you trade back? You

1030
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 2: don't have a second because you know you did the

1031
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:26,960
Speaker 2: trade with the Giants to get Leonard Williams. Where do

1032
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 2: you do you? Can you get the tackle or guard

1033
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:30,960
Speaker 2: that you're looking in the middle of the draft. Can

1034
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 2: you get a number one next year to set up better?

1035
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:35,879
Speaker 2: Those are all scenarios that I'm looking at. So maybe

1036
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:38,759
Speaker 2: I'm as we're doing this exercise and talking it out,

1037
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:42,520
Speaker 2: maybe I'm realizing on why it is more important to

1038
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:45,960
Speaker 2: what you said. It's the unknown of what could happen.

1039
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:46,920
Speaker 5: That's really what it is.

1040
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:50,799
Speaker 4: And with all this soon to be rookies, we're just

1041
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:54,560
Speaker 4: trying to figure out who's gonna do what. You know, like,

1042
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 4: there's an interesting guy with You're gonna bring him up

1043
00:47:57,680 --> 00:48:01,239
Speaker 4: with JJ McCarthy, the Michigan quarterback, and where does he go?

1044
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:04,360
Speaker 4: Does he go higher than expected? Does he go higher

1045
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:07,319
Speaker 4: than most people have him on their big boards? Just

1046
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 4: because the supply and demand aspect of quarterbacks, it's really

1047
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:15,640
Speaker 4: interesting how all of that fits together. And I don't know,

1048
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 4: maybe it's a wrong thing, but there's something about new

1049
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:21,839
Speaker 4: that seems to be more interesting. And when these are

1050
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:24,799
Speaker 4: about to be all rookies in the NFL when they

1051
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:28,440
Speaker 4: get drafted, where they get drafted, who reaches, who does

1052
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:31,319
Speaker 4: what in the draft. There's just far more intrigue in

1053
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:34,799
Speaker 4: that sure than NFL free agency. And some of these

1054
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:38,760
Speaker 4: bigger names in free agency they could make a way

1055
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 4: bigger impact, but there's just not as much intrigue building

1056
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:46,280
Speaker 4: up to that moment than there is the draft.

1057
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 5: We're talking more draft right now, and it's in late April.

1058
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:54,040
Speaker 4: Free agency is like a week away, and we're like, eh, yeah.

1059
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:56,959
Speaker 2: Right, it's got like, you know, we've had a Reggie White,

1060
00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:59,920
Speaker 2: We've had Drew Brees, We've had you know, some of them.

1061
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:03,920
Speaker 2: But there's there's not the big fish that we normally

1062
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:07,799
Speaker 2: think and and even of someone's stature, if they're if

1063
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:11,000
Speaker 2: they're good enough, usually they're not hitting free agency, so

1064
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:14,480
Speaker 2: there is a cap. I mean, Kirk Cousins is a

1065
00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 2: free agent and could be for a lot of reasons,

1066
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:21,960
Speaker 2: but a top level depending on where your level is

1067
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:24,440
Speaker 2: NFL quarterback. But he's coming off also off of an

1068
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:27,400
Speaker 2: Achilles injury. Yeah, you know, and you're wonder, okay, if

1069
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 2: there's no Achilles and the Vikings continue to do what

1070
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 2: they do, is there more of a question do they

1071
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:35,919
Speaker 2: still want to bring them along? Like we're talking even

1072
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 2: damaged goods, you know, in that sort of factor of

1073
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:42,799
Speaker 2: the top level free agency guys. Mike Evans seems to

1074
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:45,080
Speaker 2: have been in the league for you know, twenty years.

1075
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 2: How many you know, how many good years are you

1076
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:49,359
Speaker 2: going to get for Mike Evans if he, you know,

1077
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:51,200
Speaker 2: continues to play in it, maybe two or three, but

1078
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 2: it's not a fifteen year career that you drafted in

1079
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:55,480
Speaker 2: the twenty twenty four draft.

1080
00:49:55,680 --> 00:50:01,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that our attitude toward veterans is oftentimes

1081
00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:04,600
Speaker 4: like I've already seen that movie. For instance, if you

1082
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:06,840
Speaker 4: think of the Falcons Dan you brought him up. I

1083
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:10,440
Speaker 4: think Kirk Cousins going over there with the numbers he's

1084
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:13,560
Speaker 4: put up, the experience he has, mixed with all those

1085
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:17,839
Speaker 4: top ten offensive players, right, top ten draft picks, with

1086
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 4: Jehan Robinson and Kyle Pitts, Drake London. To match all

1087
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:24,719
Speaker 4: of that with Kirk Cousins, it's like, Okay, what's this

1088
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:25,400
Speaker 4: gonna look like?

1089
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:27,399
Speaker 5: I would look at it like that, but.

1090
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:30,759
Speaker 4: I think for the most part, it's like, Oh, Kirk Cousins,

1091
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:34,840
Speaker 4: what's that gonna do. Meanwhile, if they drafted the unknown,

1092
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:36,920
Speaker 4: they waited around. Maybe in the second round they got

1093
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:40,920
Speaker 4: Michael Pennix Junior, there'd be way more build up for

1094
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Speaker 4: what's Penis Junior gonna do with all these guys compared

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Speaker 4: to Kirk Cousins, who's put up numbers for years. I

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Speaker 4: think we're just like I've seen that Kirk Cousins movie before.

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Speaker 4: I don't agree with it, but I think that's typically

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Speaker 4: how it goes.

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Speaker 2: I you mentioned JJ McCarthy earlier, and the only reason

1100
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Speaker 2: that I you know, bring him up, and I'm glad

1101
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:02,920
Speaker 2: that you did, was you just mentioned Michael Pennix there.

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00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:04,279
Speaker 2: And I feel like there was at one point that

1103
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:07,799
Speaker 2: we thought Penix was going to maybe be a mid

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00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:10,200
Speaker 2: first round pick, and now it surely seems like he'll

1105
00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:13,360
Speaker 2: be a second day guy, second round pick, maybe sneaks

1106
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:14,560
Speaker 2: up at the end of the first round. But I

1107
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 2: just I don't see him being a first round pick.

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00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:21,320
Speaker 2: Where JJ McCarthy is. I mean, we're now hearing rumors

1109
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:25,479
Speaker 2: of a top ten possibility. Yeah, and to the point,

1110
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:27,720
Speaker 2: you know, Monzie talked about it in According to Monzie,

1111
00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:31,440
Speaker 2: you know, game tape matters at some point. You know,

1112
00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:33,759
Speaker 2: there were times where Jim Harbaugh did not want to

1113
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:36,279
Speaker 2: put the ball in the hands of JJ McCarthy and

1114
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:39,319
Speaker 2: relied on his running game to win football games. And

1115
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:42,719
Speaker 2: it's amazing to me to see what McCarthy did in

1116
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:45,600
Speaker 2: college and what Penix did in college and to see

1117
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:49,400
Speaker 2: now their draft stocks kind of completely going in opposite ways.

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00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:52,520
Speaker 2: You know, Pennix maybe wasn't as big as he was

1119
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:55,879
Speaker 2: listening in college and McCarthy seemingly added some weight over

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Speaker 2: these next couple of months. But to see the rise

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Speaker 2: of JJ McCarthy to be like a top ten guy,

1122
00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:06,440
Speaker 2: it's just to me, I understand the whole process. So

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00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:08,359
Speaker 2: it's not like I don't get it, but in a way,

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00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:10,319
Speaker 2: I'm also like I don't get it.

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Speaker 3: I don't understand how this happens.

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Speaker 2: It was funny when Jamison Williams was at Alabama, he

1127
00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:17,600
Speaker 2: you know Tori's ACL. Remember he couldn't break through against

1128
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:20,879
Speaker 2: Chris Olave and Garrett Wilson in the Ohio State depth chart,

1129
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:23,640
Speaker 2: which forced him to transfer to Alabama. And so he

1130
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:26,520
Speaker 2: transfers to Alabama and then tears his ACL and people

1131
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:29,000
Speaker 2: are putting them ahead of Garrett Wilson and Chris A.

1132
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:31,439
Speaker 2: Lave and I understand that we're talking about panning out

1133
00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:34,279
Speaker 2: into an NFL career, but at some point what you

1134
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:36,759
Speaker 2: did in college and you know, has to matter at

1135
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:38,880
Speaker 2: some point. And that's where I just I don't know

1136
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:41,080
Speaker 2: if Michael Pennit's is going to be a great pro

1137
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:43,880
Speaker 2: I have no idea. But there was nothing in the

1138
00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 2: college portion of what JJ McCarthy was doing that tells me, yep,

1139
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:50,680
Speaker 2: I'm sold on this guy, and there's this late push

1140
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:52,760
Speaker 2: for him. Now all of a sudden, maybe a top

1141
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:54,920
Speaker 2: ten guy could be the fourth quarterback off the board.

1142
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:58,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll be honest with you, I think McCarthy he's

1143
00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 4: a tricky of value because I hear you where it's

1144
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:07,280
Speaker 4: not like he did jaw dropping things in college, because

1145
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:09,160
Speaker 4: like you said, they relied on that running game, They're

1146
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:11,720
Speaker 4: relied on their defense. They didn't even throw a pass

1147
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:14,480
Speaker 4: in the second half against Penn State, you know.

1148
00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:16,880
Speaker 5: And so I initially think like that where.

1149
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:18,880
Speaker 4: It's like, we're really gonna go with McCarthy in the

1150
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:21,800
Speaker 4: top ten, what are we doing here? But then I pause,

1151
00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:24,640
Speaker 4: and I think, just because they didn't ask him to

1152
00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:26,280
Speaker 4: do it doesn't mean.

1153
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:27,520
Speaker 5: He can't do it, you know.

1154
00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:32,120
Speaker 4: And this is a tricky comp because I'm not saying

1155
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:36,319
Speaker 4: he's the next Justin Herbert, but I felt very similarly

1156
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:39,560
Speaker 4: to Justin Herbert when he was at Oregon and Mario

1157
00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:44,399
Speaker 4: Christabaul was over there. Very conservative. They they'd run the ball,

1158
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:47,400
Speaker 4: run it, run it. I don't know, Okay, we're losing,

1159
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:48,520
Speaker 4: all right, go ahead, throw it.

1160
00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:49,440
Speaker 3: Herbert.

1161
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:52,160
Speaker 4: You know, he put up good numbers, but they weren't

1162
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:56,440
Speaker 4: just jaw dropping. WHOA this guy is gonna be a megastar.

1163
00:53:56,520 --> 00:53:59,719
Speaker 4: I watched all of his games. I did radio in

1164
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:03,760
Speaker 4: the there in Portland. We talked about Justin Herbert like crazy,

1165
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:06,319
Speaker 4: and I'm like, he's all right, but they don't ask

1166
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:08,880
Speaker 4: him to do a ton. And then he got to

1167
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:12,239
Speaker 4: the NFL and it was like, wo wow, this guy

1168
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:15,719
Speaker 4: does have the goods. So I don't know that McCarthy

1169
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:17,560
Speaker 4: is gonna be like that.

1170
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:18,839
Speaker 5: I just know that.

1171
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:23,400
Speaker 4: Sometimes it's dangerous when a team doesn't ask their quarterback

1172
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:26,439
Speaker 4: in college to do a ton. You start thinking, well,

1173
00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:29,240
Speaker 4: that's because he can't, and it's like, well not really.

1174
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:31,600
Speaker 4: They're just they ran the ball and played great defense

1175
00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:32,800
Speaker 4: and that was their formula.

1176
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:35,080
Speaker 5: So he's a tricky evaluation.

1177
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:37,839
Speaker 4: I haven't seen anything that jumps off and I'm like,

1178
00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:40,200
Speaker 4: oh man, I love this dude. I think he could

1179
00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:42,920
Speaker 4: do work in the NFL. Because it was a lot

1180
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:47,200
Speaker 4: of one read, two reads. There wasn't anything great about

1181
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:50,760
Speaker 4: his progressions. But he's an athletic guy. It's pretty accurate

1182
00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:53,200
Speaker 4: and could he surprise a lot of people when he's

1183
00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:54,000
Speaker 4: asked to do more.

1184
00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:57,239
Speaker 2: It is possible he'll be a top eight pick. The

1185
00:54:57,239 --> 00:54:59,600
Speaker 2: way that things are going, And that's not my confidence

1186
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:02,960
Speaker 2: in him. I like confidence in them. It's how these

1187
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:04,880
Speaker 2: things end up going. Yeah, you know, like this is

1188
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:07,200
Speaker 2: the hype is going to build and somebody's gonna end

1189
00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:08,040
Speaker 2: up falling in love with him.

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Speaker 3: He's Brian No. I'm Dan Byer.

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Speaker 2: It is Fox Sports Sunday Live from thee Tiraq dot

1192
00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:15,680
Speaker 2: Com studios. Coming up next, we'll talk with our NFL

1193
00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:18,319
Speaker 2: insider Adam Kaplan and who made the big strides at

1194
00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:20,640
Speaker 2: the combine and yeah, who is going to get in

1195
00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:23,440
Speaker 2: on this justin fields topic. We'll all talk about it

1196
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:26,160
Speaker 2: next year on Fox Sports Sunday. Fox Sports Sunday, I'm

1197
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:29,719
Speaker 2: Dan Byer. He's Brian No. Trucker Joe tweeted in kind

1198
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Speaker 2: of agreeing with my JJ McCarthy sentiments. You tried to

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Speaker 2: compare him to mac Jones, but essentially it goes back

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Speaker 2: to your point, Brian, of the unknown is kind of

1201
00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:41,800
Speaker 2: what you want in the NFL. It feels like the

1202
00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:45,040
Speaker 2: potential is what you're drafting instead of maybe the known

1203
00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:48,120
Speaker 2: commodity of what you got with a Michael Pennix. And

1204
00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:51,120
Speaker 2: I use the example of Garrett Wilson and Chris o'lave

1205
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:54,160
Speaker 2: who were NFL ready receivers when they were still at

1206
00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:57,719
Speaker 2: Ohio State, and Jamison Williams was getting just as much hype,

1207
00:55:57,880 --> 00:55:59,600
Speaker 2: you know, as those guys were when they were entering

1208
00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:01,880
Speaker 2: the draft because of the what could be and he

1209
00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:04,040
Speaker 2: was coming off of an ACL injury. You know, in

1210
00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:07,320
Speaker 2: that scenario, it is the A lot of the times,

1211
00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:10,799
Speaker 2: it's of what you know just isn't as appealing of

1212
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:11,400
Speaker 2: what you don't know.

1213
00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:14,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, it really is, and you know, I wonder, man,

1214
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:17,279
Speaker 4: we'll get into it. When you think about wide receivers,

1215
00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:21,440
Speaker 4: I know it's not gonna become like the running back position,

1216
00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:24,320
Speaker 4: but if you think about this, Dan, think how deep

1217
00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:28,920
Speaker 4: the wide receiver draft is this year where it's got

1218
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:31,440
Speaker 4: a lot of depth. If you think about a receiver

1219
00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:35,040
Speaker 4: like Mike Evans, who's been fantastic for ten years. Like,

1220
00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:37,600
Speaker 4: you have a real decision to make. Would you rather

1221
00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:41,160
Speaker 4: make Mike Evans a big offer or would you rather

1222
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:45,400
Speaker 4: draft a wide receiver that might be the fourth prospect,

1223
00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:46,640
Speaker 4: maybe the fifth prospect.

1224
00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:48,239
Speaker 5: You might be better off doing that.

1225
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:49,520
Speaker 4: And I know it's not gonna be the same as

1226
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:51,080
Speaker 4: a running back, like Dobey a running back.

1227
00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:53,080
Speaker 5: Just draft a running back. Everything's gonna be fine.

1228
00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:56,960
Speaker 4: But you like, in certain instances with wide receivers, we're

1229
00:56:57,000 --> 00:56:59,839
Speaker 4: just automatatically like, oh, he's worth it, throw money at him,

1230
00:56:59,840 --> 00:57:02,480
Speaker 4: don't even think about it. We haven't changed our thinking.

1231
00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:05,520
Speaker 4: If there's a deep wide receiver class, you might be

1232
00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:07,960
Speaker 4: better off going the cheaper route in the long run.

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00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:11,160
Speaker 2: Let's ask our NFL insider about Mike Evans and where

1234
00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:12,880
Speaker 2: he could be headed, and a whole lot more. You

1235
00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:15,160
Speaker 2: can read them on the Pro Football Network and here

1236
00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:17,600
Speaker 2: on the Inside the Birds podcast, and here I'm right

1237
00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:20,360
Speaker 2: here on Fox Sports Radio. Adam Kaplan joins this. So

1238
00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:23,160
Speaker 2: free agency is about a week away. Hello, Adam, what

1239
00:57:23,640 --> 00:57:26,840
Speaker 2: is the likelihood of Mike Evans maybe finding greener pastures elsewhere?

1240
00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:29,560
Speaker 13: They're trying the bucks want and back. He definitely is

1241
00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:33,200
Speaker 13: interested in coming back, but his agent, Derek Gilmore, is

1242
00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:36,919
Speaker 13: able to kind of gauge the interest out there being

1243
00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:39,400
Speaker 13: in Indianapolis this week, and that's what's what agents do.

1244
00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:41,200
Speaker 13: He's been around a long time. He's had Mike since

1245
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:43,320
Speaker 13: Mike's drafted I F TEXA and M in twenty thirteen.

1246
00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:46,760
Speaker 13: So they'll get a pretty good idea of what his

1247
00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:50,440
Speaker 13: market will be. It should be fairly robust. Now I

1248
00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:53,560
Speaker 13: heard you, guys before I came on here. It is

1249
00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:56,200
Speaker 13: I mean, by Mike count I've got nine to ten

1250
00:57:56,240 --> 00:57:59,320
Speaker 13: receivers going off within the first sixty four picks. That's

1251
00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:02,320
Speaker 13: a lot, but that is really and they ran them

1252
00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:03,720
Speaker 13: all that by the way, they ran well on that

1253
00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:05,680
Speaker 13: fast turf at the A.

1254
00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:08,560
Speaker 5: Lukes Oil Stadium. It's a very deep and diverse group.

1255
00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:10,120
Speaker 13: You want taller guys, you could find that, you want

1256
00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:11,960
Speaker 13: fast guys, you can find that, you want possessed receivers.

1257
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:13,480
Speaker 5: You could find that. It's a very good group.

1258
00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:16,680
Speaker 4: What do you think building off that cap A couple

1259
00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:20,720
Speaker 4: of teams, specifically the Dolphins with Jalen Waddle, the Eagles

1260
00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:24,720
Speaker 4: with Devonte Smith. Those guys are in line for contract extensions.

1261
00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:27,720
Speaker 4: They already have Tyreek Hill and AJ Brown. What do

1262
00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:31,840
Speaker 4: you think about those teams paying a second receiver big money.

1263
00:58:32,120 --> 00:58:34,600
Speaker 13: Yeah, So this is the problem Brian with Cincinnati and why,

1264
00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:37,520
Speaker 13: as I understand it, they decided to tag. They didn't

1265
00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:41,240
Speaker 13: even try to extend the contract of T Higgins because

1266
00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:43,160
Speaker 13: they know over the next two years, I mean, they

1267
00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:45,040
Speaker 13: don't have to, but most likely they're probably going to

1268
00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:48,000
Speaker 13: do that. They're going to extend Jamar Chase's contract. He's

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00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:50,520
Speaker 13: eligible now for a contract extension down he's played three years.

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Speaker 13: There's really been no example of a team paying top dollar,

1271
00:58:56,880 --> 00:58:58,160
Speaker 13: top five dollars two receivers.

1272
00:58:58,160 --> 00:59:00,600
Speaker 5: It's never happened before. I could remember.

1273
00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:03,000
Speaker 13: This is my twenty fifth year of covering the NFL,

1274
00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:07,200
Speaker 13: and you're right to point that out. Now, the Dolphins

1275
00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:10,720
Speaker 13: don't have to do anything again, Wattle, like Chase is

1276
00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:13,480
Speaker 13: only in its fourth season, he's only on his fourth year,

1277
00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:15,160
Speaker 13: and then they have the fifth year option, which they'd

1278
00:59:15,160 --> 00:59:17,520
Speaker 13: pick up if they don't extend. They got two tags,

1279
00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:19,560
Speaker 13: so they don't have to do anything. They're now the Eagles,

1280
00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:22,600
Speaker 13: I would tell you, I would be stunned if they

1281
00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:25,480
Speaker 13: don't extend DeVante Smith's contract. Why this is just kind

1282
00:59:25,480 --> 00:59:28,200
Speaker 13: of their mo They're the one team in the Nacial Football

1283
00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:30,600
Speaker 13: like does not wait once they're eligible to extend.

1284
00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:34,000
Speaker 5: They get this done because they see where the money's going.

1285
00:59:34,040 --> 00:59:36,280
Speaker 13: Tyre Kill that the highest paid at receiver in the

1286
00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:38,960
Speaker 13: history of the game at thirty million a season. He's

1287
00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:41,640
Speaker 13: not gonna get that DeVante Smith, but it won't be

1288
00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:44,160
Speaker 13: too much less. And then the Eagles, as you mentioned

1289
00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:47,360
Speaker 13: with AJ Brown, one nugget here for you with AJ

1290
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:49,840
Speaker 13: Brown's contract and why this could be his last year

1291
00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:52,520
Speaker 13: with the team. His salary cop number goes to a

1292
00:59:52,520 --> 00:59:55,080
Speaker 13: twelve point five million to just over twenty six million

1293
00:59:55,240 --> 00:59:58,280
Speaker 13: next season, and his salary that's not guaranteed in twenty

1294
00:59:58,280 --> 01:00:01,280
Speaker 13: five is fifteen point twenty five So this could very

1295
01:00:01,280 --> 01:00:02,680
Speaker 13: well be his last season as an Eagle.

1296
01:00:02,800 --> 01:00:05,360
Speaker 2: Adam Kaplin joining us here on Fox Sports Sunday. Are

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01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:08,240
Speaker 2: we any closer to finding out where Justin Fields will

1298
01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:08,960
Speaker 2: play next year?

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01:00:09,160 --> 01:00:09,360
Speaker 5: Yeah.

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01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:11,080
Speaker 13: In my report Friday, which I put out on a

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01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:12,600
Speaker 13: sports grid, which I know a lot of people have

1302
01:00:12,680 --> 01:00:15,240
Speaker 13: asking abouts, I'll just address it. So what I said

1303
01:00:15,440 --> 01:00:18,200
Speaker 13: was that I don't see him going to Atlanta. I said,

1304
01:00:18,200 --> 01:00:21,120
Speaker 13: you never say never, but Let's not forget Zach Robinson,

1305
01:00:21,160 --> 01:00:24,640
Speaker 13: the new offensive coordinator with the Falcons. He is running

1306
01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:27,240
Speaker 13: a true West Coast offense. This is the same one

1307
01:00:27,280 --> 01:00:32,160
Speaker 13: Shanahan McVeigh or running. Mcveigh's a little different than Shanahan

1308
01:00:32,200 --> 01:00:35,360
Speaker 13: Shanahan's this really old school. But Zach Robinson's running a

1309
01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:37,320
Speaker 13: timing based offense, so that is not a good fit

1310
01:00:37,360 --> 01:00:41,000
Speaker 13: for Justin Fields. Again, I never say never, you know,

1311
01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:42,960
Speaker 13: the Falcons have a decision to make I feel more

1312
01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:44,880
Speaker 13: than Kirk Cousins would be a fit. Though the Vikings

1313
01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:46,920
Speaker 13: want to be him back and he wants to be back.

1314
01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:49,680
Speaker 13: Kirk Cousins will be much better fit for Zach Robinson's

1315
01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:51,720
Speaker 13: offense by the way he has played in a West

1316
01:00:51,760 --> 01:00:52,560
Speaker 13: Coast scheme before.

1317
01:00:53,640 --> 01:00:57,400
Speaker 4: How about the quarterback domino's cap where the Falcons and

1318
01:00:57,440 --> 01:01:00,960
Speaker 4: all teams. Is Kirk Cousins the first domino to fall?

1319
01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:02,720
Speaker 4: And then you think, well, if we don't get him,

1320
01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:06,280
Speaker 4: maybe Baker, maybe Field. Is it Kirk Cousins the first

1321
01:01:06,280 --> 01:01:08,240
Speaker 4: guy we got to figure out what's going on with him?

1322
01:01:08,520 --> 01:01:09,920
Speaker 5: I don't think there's much of a mystery.

1323
01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:12,320
Speaker 13: It's certainly not a Lockdady returns to Minnesota, but he

1324
01:01:12,360 --> 01:01:14,800
Speaker 13: wants to be back. Talking to Vikings, they definitely want

1325
01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:17,640
Speaker 13: him back. It's kind of harder for him because he's

1326
01:01:17,640 --> 01:01:19,800
Speaker 13: turning thirty six and August coming off off of a

1327
01:01:19,840 --> 01:01:22,320
Speaker 13: devastating injury at torn Achilles. Now he did play great

1328
01:01:22,360 --> 01:01:25,920
Speaker 13: ballot before he got hurt, and then Baker would be

1329
01:01:25,960 --> 01:01:28,720
Speaker 13: a team for Atlanta if they cannot if the Bucks

1330
01:01:28,720 --> 01:01:31,760
Speaker 13: somehow don't get him back. Now, both sides want to

1331
01:01:31,760 --> 01:01:34,400
Speaker 13: do business with each other. It is a great story.

1332
01:01:34,720 --> 01:01:36,800
Speaker 13: One year four million was upside, which is what he

1333
01:01:36,800 --> 01:01:39,440
Speaker 13: signed for last season. Want to bargain. But after that,

1334
01:01:39,640 --> 01:01:43,080
Speaker 13: it's they're all backup, folks. They're all backups. It's if

1335
01:01:43,080 --> 01:01:45,160
Speaker 13: you don't get one of these two guys, you're looking

1336
01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:47,080
Speaker 13: toward the draft, that's what you'll do.

1337
01:01:47,360 --> 01:01:49,840
Speaker 2: Adam Kaplan joining us here on Fox Sports Sunday. He's

1338
01:01:49,880 --> 01:01:52,280
Speaker 2: Brian Noah, I'm Dan Byer. So what do you make

1339
01:01:52,320 --> 01:01:55,360
Speaker 2: about this JJ McCarthy hype that Brian and I were

1340
01:01:55,400 --> 01:01:59,440
Speaker 2: just talking about seeing now possible top ten position for

1341
01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:02,840
Speaker 2: the Michigan quarterback after what took place at the combine.

1342
01:02:03,040 --> 01:02:04,919
Speaker 3: Where does the Michigan product And all.

1343
01:02:04,880 --> 01:02:06,920
Speaker 13: Right, so it's funny you mentioned this so last night

1344
01:02:06,960 --> 01:02:10,800
Speaker 13: I had dinner with some scouting people in Indianapolis and.

1345
01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:11,560
Speaker 5: I brought this.

1346
01:02:11,640 --> 01:02:13,480
Speaker 13: I actually brought him up because they did not talk

1347
01:02:13,520 --> 01:02:15,880
Speaker 13: about him, and these guys aren't all covering the same area.

1348
01:02:17,040 --> 01:02:19,200
Speaker 13: So I said, hey, do you guys think you'll go

1349
01:02:19,240 --> 01:02:22,000
Speaker 13: in the first round. The three guys agreed and b

1350
01:02:22,080 --> 01:02:24,720
Speaker 13: where do you think he goes? One guy said, look,

1351
01:02:24,760 --> 01:02:26,400
Speaker 13: I don't have a first round great on him, but

1352
01:02:26,440 --> 01:02:27,840
Speaker 13: I know he's going to go in the first round

1353
01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:32,560
Speaker 13: because this is what happens. Quarterbacks get pushed up. I'd

1354
01:02:32,600 --> 01:02:35,160
Speaker 13: say top twenty. Now the knock on him is now

1355
01:02:35,200 --> 01:02:38,520
Speaker 13: I know he put weight on. There was a concern

1356
01:02:38,520 --> 01:02:40,120
Speaker 13: that he'd be around the two undred pounds. He put

1357
01:02:40,160 --> 01:02:41,720
Speaker 13: on some mass to his body.

1358
01:02:41,720 --> 01:02:42,160
Speaker 5: That's good.

1359
01:02:42,480 --> 01:02:44,800
Speaker 13: That certainly makes people feel better who aer than the

1360
01:02:44,800 --> 01:02:52,040
Speaker 13: scouting world. But overall, you don't see him with great anticipation,

1361
01:02:52,200 --> 01:02:55,000
Speaker 13: great timing. Sometimes that's what his tape shows. I was

1362
01:02:55,000 --> 01:02:58,520
Speaker 13: told by someone in scouting. You like his elusiveness. He

1363
01:02:58,560 --> 01:03:02,200
Speaker 13: can move, he can run a little bit. He's not small.

1364
01:03:02,240 --> 01:03:05,600
Speaker 13: I mean, he's got some length to him. But you

1365
01:03:05,640 --> 01:03:07,440
Speaker 13: want to see how he reacts to certain things. At

1366
01:03:07,440 --> 01:03:10,200
Speaker 13: the next level. There are some questions whether he'd be

1367
01:03:10,240 --> 01:03:12,480
Speaker 13: ready or one to start, No doubt about it. That

1368
01:03:12,480 --> 01:03:14,560
Speaker 13: that's something else that was brought up to me because

1369
01:03:14,600 --> 01:03:17,080
Speaker 13: you don't see a ton of him under pressure. That's

1370
01:03:17,080 --> 01:03:19,440
Speaker 13: the issue that some scouts had with bo Nicks, the

1371
01:03:19,560 --> 01:03:23,040
Speaker 13: argon quarterback. He should go somewhere between twenty and thirty two.

1372
01:03:23,720 --> 01:03:25,960
Speaker 13: But you do struggle going through tape and seeing him

1373
01:03:26,240 --> 01:03:27,040
Speaker 13: through under pressure.

1374
01:03:27,880 --> 01:03:30,120
Speaker 4: How about the Chargers cap where you look at their

1375
01:03:30,360 --> 01:03:33,040
Speaker 4: four guys that are going to count a lot against

1376
01:03:33,080 --> 01:03:37,360
Speaker 4: the salary cap in Joey Bosa, Khalil Mack, Keenan Allen,

1377
01:03:37,680 --> 01:03:41,040
Speaker 4: Mike Williams. What do you think is the best approach

1378
01:03:41,160 --> 01:03:43,800
Speaker 4: to maybe keeping a couple, maybe moving on.

1379
01:03:43,800 --> 01:03:45,680
Speaker 5: From a couple. What do you think they should do

1380
01:03:45,680 --> 01:03:46,400
Speaker 5: to approach this the.

1381
01:03:46,440 --> 01:03:49,240
Speaker 13: Right Yeah, hard to believe they'll keep all four. I'd

1382
01:03:49,280 --> 01:03:54,320
Speaker 13: be very surprised. Now there's a segment the National Footballague. Look,

1383
01:03:55,120 --> 01:03:56,360
Speaker 13: if you want to keep a player, going to.

1384
01:03:56,400 --> 01:03:56,920
Speaker 5: Keep a player?

1385
01:03:57,200 --> 01:04:01,800
Speaker 13: Now, Khalil Mack still showed he had a can still play.

1386
01:04:02,360 --> 01:04:04,400
Speaker 5: He just turned thirty three. You never went to wait

1387
01:04:04,440 --> 01:04:05,160
Speaker 5: till it's too late.

1388
01:04:05,200 --> 01:04:07,959
Speaker 13: This is, by the way, Max last year of his deal,

1389
01:04:08,320 --> 01:04:10,720
Speaker 13: his salary cap numbers over thirty eight million, which is

1390
01:04:10,720 --> 01:04:11,680
Speaker 13: a quarterback number.

1391
01:04:13,120 --> 01:04:13,880
Speaker 5: You've got a new.

1392
01:04:13,800 --> 01:04:17,680
Speaker 13: General manager, got a new head coach, new offense, defensive schemes.

1393
01:04:19,440 --> 01:04:21,960
Speaker 5: Someone's gonna have to go here. I can't see it.

1394
01:04:22,000 --> 01:04:25,600
Speaker 13: And by the way, Mike Williams nobod. They haven't made

1395
01:04:25,600 --> 01:04:27,440
Speaker 13: a decision on what they're going to do with these contracts.

1396
01:04:28,320 --> 01:04:30,800
Speaker 13: Mike Williams is coming up back from attorney ACL. His

1397
01:04:30,880 --> 01:04:34,920
Speaker 13: salary cap number due to the restructure last September is

1398
01:04:34,960 --> 01:04:38,840
Speaker 13: over thirty two million. You mentioned Keenan Allen who just

1399
01:04:38,880 --> 01:04:41,680
Speaker 13: cannot get healthy. He's also in the last year of

1400
01:04:41,680 --> 01:04:43,640
Speaker 13: his deal, salary cap number for thirty four million. I

1401
01:04:43,640 --> 01:04:46,440
Speaker 13: wrote this for Profible Network to start last season that

1402
01:04:46,480 --> 01:04:48,360
Speaker 13: it's hard to imagine both those guys would be back

1403
01:04:48,400 --> 01:04:49,760
Speaker 13: in here we are and we don't know Williams of

1404
01:04:49,840 --> 01:04:52,480
Speaker 13: Terror's ACL, so I'd imagine one, if not two, of

1405
01:04:52,480 --> 01:04:55,280
Speaker 13: these guys will go. And here's the other problem. Because

1406
01:04:55,480 --> 01:04:57,040
Speaker 13: most of these guys are not on a contract for

1407
01:04:57,040 --> 01:05:00,640
Speaker 13: next season. It's hard to restructure because you're fading voidable

1408
01:05:00,720 --> 01:05:03,600
Speaker 13: years and more cap problems down the line. They're in

1409
01:05:03,640 --> 01:05:05,600
Speaker 13: a tough way here. It's going to be it's gonna

1410
01:05:05,600 --> 01:05:06,919
Speaker 13: be hard for them to get through all.

1411
01:05:06,840 --> 01:05:08,760
Speaker 3: This before we let you go.

1412
01:05:08,840 --> 01:05:10,480
Speaker 2: And I know it's a tough day for a lot

1413
01:05:10,480 --> 01:05:13,680
Speaker 2: of people around the NFL, the passing of Chris Mortenson.

1414
01:05:13,840 --> 01:05:16,880
Speaker 2: Obviously you spent time at ESPN, have been in this

1415
01:05:16,960 --> 01:05:18,800
Speaker 2: insider game for decades.

1416
01:05:19,480 --> 01:05:21,960
Speaker 3: What can you tell us about Chris Mortenson after?

1417
01:05:22,200 --> 01:05:23,640
Speaker 5: I'm so glad you brought this up. This has been

1418
01:05:23,640 --> 01:05:24,160
Speaker 5: a tough day.

1419
01:05:24,240 --> 01:05:25,680
Speaker 13: I found out about it, you know, three or four

1420
01:05:25,680 --> 01:05:29,080
Speaker 13: hours ago, and it stopped me in my tracks. So

1421
01:05:29,240 --> 01:05:31,480
Speaker 13: I told more at this when we worked together, we

1422
01:05:31,520 --> 01:05:33,680
Speaker 13: worked closely for two years before his illness. I told

1423
01:05:33,720 --> 01:05:35,840
Speaker 13: him that he was the inspiration for my career, that

1424
01:05:36,040 --> 01:05:37,400
Speaker 13: that is something.

1425
01:05:37,240 --> 01:05:39,000
Speaker 5: I'd been without him.

1426
01:05:39,280 --> 01:05:41,960
Speaker 13: And as a reporter, I remember where I was in

1427
01:05:42,040 --> 01:05:44,720
Speaker 13: nineteen ninety eight, if we're not at a fancy football convention,

1428
01:05:45,680 --> 01:05:48,600
Speaker 13: and I asked him this question, could you find out

1429
01:05:48,680 --> 01:05:51,520
Speaker 13: what's going with Georgy Levins's contract? And it called ron

1430
01:05:51,600 --> 01:05:54,120
Speaker 13: Wolf and I picked this cell phone up and I'm like,

1431
01:05:54,880 --> 01:05:55,800
Speaker 13: I can't believe this is that?

1432
01:05:56,040 --> 01:05:57,320
Speaker 5: Like I was like mesmerized.

1433
01:05:58,000 --> 01:06:01,480
Speaker 13: Yeah, And I told him that we laughed about it

1434
01:06:01,520 --> 01:06:03,320
Speaker 13: and he's a special guy. The other thing that I

1435
01:06:03,400 --> 01:06:06,560
Speaker 13: love about him is He's sent.

1436
01:06:06,560 --> 01:06:07,480
Speaker 5: You a really nice note.

1437
01:06:07,520 --> 01:06:10,400
Speaker 13: And I know we've seen people on social media, reporters

1438
01:06:10,440 --> 01:06:12,960
Speaker 13: in our business, you know, put this out. I'm probably

1439
01:06:12,960 --> 01:06:16,240
Speaker 13: gonna do something tomorrow mine. Yeah, my story's gonna be

1440
01:06:16,240 --> 01:06:19,280
Speaker 13: a little different. But he would always send encouragement like

1441
01:06:19,360 --> 01:06:22,280
Speaker 13: out of the blue sometimes and I'm I'm sad that

1442
01:06:22,360 --> 01:06:24,720
Speaker 13: I do not have touch be in touch with him.

1443
01:06:24,560 --> 01:06:25,160
Speaker 5: In recent months.

1444
01:06:25,200 --> 01:06:28,960
Speaker 13: That's you know, obviously disappointing, but special human being and

1445
01:06:29,240 --> 01:06:31,200
Speaker 13: again the number one inspiration in my career that this

1446
01:06:31,320 --> 01:06:34,080
Speaker 13: is not even close and no like Will McDonough, the

1447
01:06:34,160 --> 01:06:36,320
Speaker 13: late Will McDonough was another guy that I saw growing up,

1448
01:06:37,040 --> 01:06:39,040
Speaker 13: but to no more just to love him.

1449
01:06:39,080 --> 01:06:40,800
Speaker 5: I'm telling you, the guy was a special human being.

1450
01:06:41,400 --> 01:06:44,000
Speaker 2: He's Adam Gaplan our Fox Sports Radio NFL. N's had

1451
01:06:44,040 --> 01:06:46,280
Speaker 2: our great words on the passing of Chris Morten's in

1452
01:06:46,320 --> 01:06:48,440
Speaker 2: earlier today. Adam, thanks so much. We'll talk to you

1453
01:06:48,720 --> 01:06:51,400
Speaker 2: next week. Hit him up at Kaplan NFL. Let's sit

1454
01:06:51,440 --> 01:06:53,800
Speaker 2: over to the news desk. Monti Blanios has got the latest.

1455
01:06:53,840 --> 01:06:56,480
Speaker 2: And then after that she'll serve as a lifeline, one

1456
01:06:56,560 --> 01:06:58,800
Speaker 2: of the three lifelines for Brian know in our Game

1457
01:06:58,880 --> 01:06:59,840
Speaker 2: of Easy as one, two, three?

1458
01:07:00,240 --> 01:07:01,040
Speaker 3: What's going on? Manzi?

1459
01:07:01,120 --> 01:07:03,640
Speaker 10: You know when I watched these NASCAR races and they

1460
01:07:03,840 --> 01:07:06,720
Speaker 10: start going to the pit and changing these tires, I

1461
01:07:06,840 --> 01:07:07,440
Speaker 10: can't help but.

1462
01:07:07,520 --> 01:07:10,520
Speaker 11: Be in awe how quickly they moved crazy?

1463
01:07:10,840 --> 01:07:13,640
Speaker 10: You know what, I just just had my tire situation, right,

1464
01:07:13,960 --> 01:07:16,080
Speaker 10: So maybe that's what it is, because I'm just like, oh.

1465
01:07:16,000 --> 01:07:19,320
Speaker 5: My, how quickly did you just put those tires on, Mancy?

1466
01:07:19,400 --> 01:07:22,560
Speaker 4: I'm so cheap my back right tire, it keeps going

1467
01:07:22,800 --> 01:07:26,280
Speaker 4: flat and I'll just put air in it every three

1468
01:07:26,360 --> 01:07:29,600
Speaker 4: weeks or so. It's going flat again and just keep

1469
01:07:29,680 --> 01:07:31,280
Speaker 4: putting it off. I need to take it to a

1470
01:07:31,400 --> 01:07:32,120
Speaker 4: NASCAR trap.

1471
01:07:32,280 --> 01:07:34,280
Speaker 9: You probably have a puncture, and that you should probably.

1472
01:07:34,640 --> 01:07:37,520
Speaker 9: My tire got completely shredded and I nearly died this.

1473
01:07:37,720 --> 01:07:39,600
Speaker 11: Have you taken it? Because if there, if it is

1474
01:07:39,680 --> 01:07:41,040
Speaker 11: a little hole, they can patch it.

1475
01:07:41,240 --> 01:07:43,520
Speaker 8: And then you did Yeah the place, We'll do it

1476
01:07:43,560 --> 01:07:43,919
Speaker 8: for free.

1477
01:07:44,120 --> 01:07:46,520
Speaker 5: Yeah I did that once. But it's still it's going

1478
01:07:46,600 --> 01:07:47,040
Speaker 5: down again.

1479
01:07:47,160 --> 01:07:49,280
Speaker 11: Yeah no, I hear you. So on Tuesday I came

1480
01:07:49,320 --> 01:07:49,800
Speaker 11: into work.

1481
01:07:50,000 --> 01:07:52,880
Speaker 10: Literally on my eight minute drive to work, I was

1482
01:07:52,920 --> 01:07:55,760
Speaker 10: getting a flat tire. Like by the time an hour

1483
01:07:55,840 --> 01:07:57,880
Speaker 10: into my ship at seven am, I went to look

1484
01:07:57,880 --> 01:08:00,240
Speaker 10: at it at a flat complete tire and I had

1485
01:08:00,320 --> 01:08:02,320
Speaker 10: like a like a slash on the tire, like I

1486
01:08:02,360 --> 01:08:03,040
Speaker 10: couldn't fix it.

1487
01:08:03,480 --> 01:08:06,440
Speaker 5: And by the way, yeah, I didn't know you were done.

1488
01:08:06,440 --> 01:08:08,360
Speaker 10: So and then I found out I didn't have a

1489
01:08:08,400 --> 01:08:10,440
Speaker 10: spare tire in my car because I have a hybrid

1490
01:08:10,560 --> 01:08:12,720
Speaker 10: plug in so it's where the battery is.

1491
01:08:13,280 --> 01:08:15,560
Speaker 11: So I had to get towed. I just bought new tires.

1492
01:08:15,880 --> 01:08:18,200
Speaker 11: I don't I was very upset.

1493
01:08:18,960 --> 01:08:22,320
Speaker 4: My apologies for breaking up your story, So it'll take

1494
01:08:22,400 --> 01:08:23,559
Speaker 4: it doesn't take ten seconds.

1495
01:08:23,800 --> 01:08:24,800
Speaker 5: I was on my way to work.

1496
01:08:24,840 --> 01:08:28,639
Speaker 4: I was working in Fresno at the time, blasting Lamb

1497
01:08:28,720 --> 01:08:31,240
Speaker 4: of God as I typically do. Dan, you know, I'm

1498
01:08:31,240 --> 01:08:33,760
Speaker 4: a metal guy. And the guy next to me, we're

1499
01:08:33,800 --> 01:08:36,320
Speaker 4: at a red light and he's pointing down. He's like

1500
01:08:36,400 --> 01:08:39,760
Speaker 4: pointing down and I'm like, yeah, man, right on, and

1501
01:08:39,880 --> 01:08:42,280
Speaker 4: I got to work and then my back right tire

1502
01:08:42,439 --> 01:08:45,760
Speaker 4: was totally flat and I didn't know it. He was

1503
01:08:45,880 --> 01:08:49,880
Speaker 4: just like, he's the most laid back guy ever. I'm like, yeah, man,

1504
01:08:49,920 --> 01:08:50,559
Speaker 4: I know it's flat.

1505
01:08:50,640 --> 01:08:51,839
Speaker 5: It's cool. I had no idea.

1506
01:08:52,040 --> 01:08:52,960
Speaker 11: That's so funny.

1507
01:08:53,240 --> 01:08:56,759
Speaker 10: Well, let's get that tire fixed, Brian, before it's it's dangerous.

1508
01:08:56,760 --> 01:08:59,439
Speaker 2: I guarantee you know the gas station that is free air,

1509
01:09:00,000 --> 01:09:02,320
Speaker 2: because there are very few of them now that have

1510
01:09:02,560 --> 01:09:03,320
Speaker 2: free air.

1511
01:09:03,520 --> 01:09:05,240
Speaker 3: Which you find the one, and that's the one that

1512
01:09:05,320 --> 01:09:06,920
Speaker 3: you go back to every single time.

1513
01:09:06,960 --> 01:09:08,679
Speaker 11: And the most annoying thing is it's coins.

1514
01:09:09,200 --> 01:09:11,920
Speaker 3: I don't know, No, it's free, That's what I'm talking about.

1515
01:09:12,000 --> 01:09:13,519
Speaker 11: The ones that you do have to pay it's coins.

1516
01:09:13,840 --> 01:09:16,439
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, cooin air terrible.

1517
01:09:16,960 --> 01:09:19,120
Speaker 11: I know, I got time for that. All right, Let's

1518
01:09:19,160 --> 01:09:20,120
Speaker 11: check in on NASCAR.

1519
01:09:20,640 --> 01:09:22,880
Speaker 10: We are down to the third and final stage and

1520
01:09:23,000 --> 01:09:25,639
Speaker 10: it looks like Kyle Larson is still in the lead.

1521
01:09:25,880 --> 01:09:28,920
Speaker 10: Thirty eight laps to go. This is coming from Las Vegas.

1522
01:09:29,000 --> 01:09:32,479
Speaker 10: Tyler Reddick in the in second place, Ryan Blaney. Daniell

1523
01:09:32,560 --> 01:09:34,320
Speaker 10: Suadez was in the lead not that long ago, and

1524
01:09:34,400 --> 01:09:35,920
Speaker 10: he won the last one, so I was like, oh,

1525
01:09:35,960 --> 01:09:37,719
Speaker 10: maybe he's gonna win this one. But no, Kyle Larson

1526
01:09:37,760 --> 01:09:40,200
Speaker 10: right now, thirty seven laps to go. In the NBA

1527
01:09:40,280 --> 01:09:42,320
Speaker 10: two games going on, the Magic are beating the Pistons

1528
01:09:42,360 --> 01:09:44,519
Speaker 10: twenty nine to twenty seven. Late in the first quarter,

1529
01:09:44,600 --> 01:09:46,479
Speaker 10: the Hornets are up on the Raptors thirty one to

1530
01:09:46,520 --> 01:09:49,040
Speaker 10: twenty seven. They just got going in the second quarter,

1531
01:09:49,360 --> 01:09:52,640
Speaker 10: the Celtics dominated the Warriors one forty to eighty eight.

1532
01:09:52,760 --> 01:09:55,160
Speaker 10: Boston is the first team in NBA history to win

1533
01:09:55,280 --> 01:09:58,719
Speaker 10: three games by fifty or more points in a season.

1534
01:09:59,280 --> 01:10:01,040
Speaker 10: The seventy six was held on to beat the MAVs

1535
01:10:01,080 --> 01:10:03,720
Speaker 10: in Dallas won twenty to one sixteen and my Clippers

1536
01:10:03,800 --> 01:10:07,160
Speaker 10: they edged the Timberwolves in Minnesota eighty nine eighty eight

1537
01:10:07,400 --> 01:10:07,960
Speaker 10: was the final.

1538
01:10:08,240 --> 01:10:09,200
Speaker 11: In college hoops.

1539
01:10:09,320 --> 01:10:12,760
Speaker 10: Number three Yukon Cruise pass Seaton Hall ninety one sixty one.

1540
01:10:13,040 --> 01:10:15,760
Speaker 10: Caitlin Clark dropped thirty five points today. She is now

1541
01:10:15,840 --> 01:10:19,080
Speaker 10: the all time leading scorer in the NC DOUBLEA men women.

1542
01:10:19,160 --> 01:10:21,799
Speaker 10: It doesn't matter. Number six Iowa defeated number two Ohio

1543
01:10:21,920 --> 01:10:23,320
Speaker 10: State ninety three eighty three.

1544
01:10:23,479 --> 01:10:24,960
Speaker 11: We're also going to talk about number.

1545
01:10:24,800 --> 01:10:28,120
Speaker 10: One South Carolina because they completed its second straight perfect

1546
01:10:28,560 --> 01:10:30,200
Speaker 10: regular season with.

1547
01:10:30,360 --> 01:10:32,599
Speaker 11: A seventy six sixty eight victory over Tennessee.

1548
01:10:32,680 --> 01:10:34,840
Speaker 10: South Carolina is the first team to enter the SEC

1549
01:10:35,000 --> 01:10:40,000
Speaker 10: Tournament undefeated multiple times and in the NFL. ESPN reports

1550
01:10:40,000 --> 01:10:42,360
Speaker 10: that the Dolphins are unlikely to use the franchise tag

1551
01:10:42,400 --> 01:10:45,200
Speaker 10: on defensive tackle Christian Wilkins, who is coming off a

1552
01:10:45,240 --> 01:10:46,439
Speaker 10: career high nine sacks in.

1553
01:10:46,439 --> 01:10:49,679
Speaker 11: Twenty twenty three, so he will be an unrestricted free agent.

1554
01:10:49,960 --> 01:10:51,800
Speaker 2: Back to you guys, all right, let's get right to it,

1555
01:10:51,880 --> 01:10:53,880
Speaker 2: easy as one, two, three, four, Yeah, we got to

1556
01:10:53,920 --> 01:10:57,120
Speaker 2: move this bad boy along, Brian. Those quest to get

1557
01:10:57,200 --> 01:11:03,479
Speaker 2: ten points a simil discussion of topics where Brian does

1558
01:11:03,560 --> 01:11:05,439
Speaker 2: not have to give me all of the correct answers,

1559
01:11:05,560 --> 01:11:07,360
Speaker 2: just has to give me some of them. He has

1560
01:11:07,520 --> 01:11:11,800
Speaker 2: lifelines at his disposal. Monty Belanos, Bo Benton, and Chris

1561
01:11:11,920 --> 01:11:14,880
Speaker 2: Purfett are here if Brian wants to workshop any of

1562
01:11:14,960 --> 01:11:20,400
Speaker 2: these topics. The topics today the NBA, NFL, Women's college basketball,

1563
01:11:20,439 --> 01:11:21,960
Speaker 2: and men's college basketball.

1564
01:11:22,120 --> 01:11:23,880
Speaker 3: Okay, are you ready to go, Brian?

1565
01:11:23,960 --> 01:11:24,719
Speaker 5: N I'm ready.

1566
01:11:24,840 --> 01:11:27,080
Speaker 2: Let's go over under eight and a half. It'll never

1567
01:11:27,160 --> 01:11:29,320
Speaker 2: be nine and a half. That's asking too much, but

1568
01:11:29,680 --> 01:11:31,400
Speaker 2: a feel you'll do pretty well in this one.

1569
01:11:31,520 --> 01:11:31,840
Speaker 3: All right?

1570
01:11:32,080 --> 01:11:36,040
Speaker 2: Good name one of two, Brian, of the NBA's all

1571
01:11:36,280 --> 01:11:40,880
Speaker 2: time highest scoring leaders that never played a game in

1572
01:11:40,920 --> 01:11:45,400
Speaker 2: a Lakers uniform. So the two highest scoring leaders in

1573
01:11:45,520 --> 01:11:49,200
Speaker 2: NBA history that never played a game in a Lakers uniform.

1574
01:11:49,720 --> 01:11:54,080
Speaker 4: Okay, gotcha? So, uh, we take Lebron off the list.

1575
01:11:54,120 --> 01:11:56,639
Speaker 4: We take Kareem off the list, we take Karl Malone

1576
01:11:56,680 --> 01:11:59,720
Speaker 4: off the list, and we take Kobe off the list.

1577
01:12:00,080 --> 01:12:03,920
Speaker 4: So we've got mj final answer.

1578
01:12:04,400 --> 01:12:08,400
Speaker 2: All right, show me Michael Jordan. Yes, there he is

1579
01:12:08,560 --> 01:12:12,639
Speaker 2: number five, thirty and ninety two points. Derk Novitski also

1580
01:12:12,680 --> 01:12:15,000
Speaker 2: would have been an acceptable answer, But then after that

1581
01:12:15,120 --> 01:12:18,680
Speaker 2: you had Wilt Chamberlain, Shaquille O'Neal, and then if we

1582
01:12:18,800 --> 01:12:20,600
Speaker 2: wanted to extend it, Kevin Durant would have been the

1583
01:12:20,720 --> 01:12:24,519
Speaker 2: third Carmelo Anthony played for the Lakers. So yeah, seven

1584
01:12:24,600 --> 01:12:27,559
Speaker 2: of the top ten have worn a Lakers' uniform. Brian,

1585
01:12:27,640 --> 01:12:30,479
Speaker 2: know you were easy? Yeah, you are often running. Let's

1586
01:12:30,520 --> 01:12:33,200
Speaker 2: go question number two. It's my all time favorite question

1587
01:12:33,360 --> 01:12:36,519
Speaker 2: of easy as one, two, three, four. It's been used before,

1588
01:12:37,120 --> 01:12:39,479
Speaker 2: but we bring it back today. Uh oh, name two

1589
01:12:39,520 --> 01:12:41,880
Speaker 2: of three NFL teams that have never had the first

1590
01:12:41,920 --> 01:12:43,599
Speaker 2: overall pick in an NFL draft?

1591
01:12:45,400 --> 01:12:49,360
Speaker 5: Baby two? Okay, two of three. I might need a

1592
01:12:49,439 --> 01:12:50,160
Speaker 5: lifeline for this.

1593
01:12:52,800 --> 01:12:58,120
Speaker 4: My initial thought is the Ravens because they haven't been

1594
01:12:58,160 --> 01:13:00,679
Speaker 4: around for that long. I don't I don't know. I'd

1595
01:13:00,720 --> 01:13:03,840
Speaker 4: have to workshop that one. If they've had the number

1596
01:13:03,880 --> 01:13:07,799
Speaker 4: one overall pick. I'm gonna workshop this with Bo Benson

1597
01:13:08,479 --> 01:13:13,960
Speaker 4: lifeline number one. Here, I could go team by team

1598
01:13:14,320 --> 01:13:20,120
Speaker 4: in nauseating fashion, and it would take forever for us

1599
01:13:20,240 --> 01:13:25,360
Speaker 4: to do that. But I'm thinking Baltimore, you thinking anybody

1600
01:13:25,400 --> 01:13:26,160
Speaker 4: in particular Bo?

1601
01:13:26,479 --> 01:13:30,080
Speaker 12: Baltimore sounds right, But I don't know if they were

1602
01:13:30,120 --> 01:13:33,120
Speaker 12: treated as like an expansion franchise and given a top pick,

1603
01:13:33,280 --> 01:13:34,040
Speaker 12: I don't know if they.

1604
01:13:33,960 --> 01:13:34,840
Speaker 5: Were, I don't know.

1605
01:13:35,320 --> 01:13:38,400
Speaker 12: I would think the Steelers have never been bad enough

1606
01:13:38,479 --> 01:13:42,160
Speaker 12: to be picking first overall, but that might be wrong too. Look,

1607
01:13:42,280 --> 01:13:43,839
Speaker 12: thinking about some of the guys that played.

1608
01:13:43,640 --> 01:13:48,000
Speaker 5: There, I don't know, because these teams that go back forever.

1609
01:13:48,680 --> 01:13:51,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm worried about and the Steelers were bad for

1610
01:13:51,920 --> 01:13:55,479
Speaker 4: a long time, so I don't know they could be

1611
01:13:55,560 --> 01:13:56,040
Speaker 4: on the list.

1612
01:13:56,120 --> 01:13:56,760
Speaker 5: I'm not sure.

1613
01:13:57,000 --> 01:13:58,559
Speaker 12: Yeah, that's that's wow.

1614
01:13:59,080 --> 01:14:04,040
Speaker 2: This is my favorite question. I love this all right, Brian,

1615
01:14:04,120 --> 01:14:06,200
Speaker 2: Now are you are you ready to give a final answer?

1616
01:14:06,240 --> 01:14:07,519
Speaker 2: Do you want to use a different lifeline?

1617
01:14:08,200 --> 01:14:10,960
Speaker 5: I thought Bo was going to chime in with you, Okay, yeah, Well, if.

1618
01:14:10,880 --> 01:14:12,960
Speaker 12: Dan loves this question, then maybe the Seahawks are one

1619
01:14:12,960 --> 01:14:13,479
Speaker 12: of the answers.

1620
01:14:14,360 --> 01:14:17,840
Speaker 5: You know, it's not a bad thought.

1621
01:14:18,920 --> 01:14:20,720
Speaker 4: Let's go, and they haven't been around as long as

1622
01:14:20,800 --> 01:14:23,080
Speaker 4: the Steelers and some of these other teams. Right, so

1623
01:14:23,760 --> 01:14:29,240
Speaker 4: we'll go Dan Ravens Seahawks. Final answer, All right, show

1624
01:14:29,320 --> 01:14:33,160
Speaker 4: me the Baltimore Ravens. They did not get the opportunity

1625
01:14:33,200 --> 01:14:35,880
Speaker 4: to be the first overall because everybody moved over. They

1626
01:14:35,920 --> 01:14:39,679
Speaker 4: were an expansion franchise, but not in the normal sense.

1627
01:14:39,960 --> 01:14:43,160
Speaker 4: He got that one, correct. Show me the Seattle Seahawks.

1628
01:14:43,920 --> 01:14:45,439
Speaker 5: Yes, that is.

1629
01:14:47,040 --> 01:14:49,439
Speaker 3: The other team to not have a number one.

1630
01:14:49,400 --> 01:14:54,200
Speaker 2: Pick first overall, the Denver Broncos, Denver Wow, Pittsburgh Terry

1631
01:14:54,240 --> 01:14:58,080
Speaker 2: Bradshaw first overall. And so uh that's a way back

1632
01:14:58,160 --> 01:15:00,080
Speaker 2: in the way back machine. The Seahawks could I have

1633
01:15:00,120 --> 01:15:02,040
Speaker 2: had number one in the first draft, but instead that

1634
01:15:02,120 --> 01:15:06,479
Speaker 2: went to Tampa Bay. They also drafted Rick Myra in

1635
01:15:06,560 --> 01:15:10,360
Speaker 2: the early nineties at number two, but never number one overall.

1636
01:15:10,439 --> 01:15:13,519
Speaker 4: All right, shout out Irish, huh, Irish and Seahawks. It's

1637
01:15:13,600 --> 01:15:16,080
Speaker 4: like you and me just combined forces. I don't know

1638
01:15:16,160 --> 01:15:18,760
Speaker 4: if we can really bond over Rick Myra. You had

1639
01:15:18,800 --> 01:15:20,479
Speaker 4: a much better time with him than I did.

1640
01:15:20,640 --> 01:15:22,320
Speaker 3: That's true. I saw him at the Super Bowl. By

1641
01:15:22,320 --> 01:15:23,439
Speaker 3: the way, I walked past them.

1642
01:15:23,439 --> 01:15:25,840
Speaker 2: I'm like, ah, Rick Meira, all right, yo, Noah's three

1643
01:15:25,960 --> 01:15:28,800
Speaker 2: for three on the verge right now, on track for

1644
01:15:28,840 --> 01:15:32,080
Speaker 2: a second straight perfect game. But we're talking hoops next.

1645
01:15:32,200 --> 01:15:35,120
Speaker 2: Manzie's a lifeline, so is christ Perfet. It's all coming

1646
01:15:35,200 --> 01:15:37,160
Speaker 2: up next life at the Tirek dot Com Studios on

1647
01:15:37,240 --> 01:15:41,000
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Sunday. Brian know is perfect. I'm not talking

1648
01:15:41,080 --> 01:15:43,000
Speaker 2: in general, but right now perfect in this game of

1649
01:15:43,080 --> 01:15:44,360
Speaker 2: easy as one, two three four.

1650
01:15:44,960 --> 01:15:46,920
Speaker 3: Hit him up at the No Show. I'm Dan Byer,

1651
01:15:47,000 --> 01:15:48,360
Speaker 3: Bryan and I hanging out with you on.

1652
01:15:48,400 --> 01:15:52,840
Speaker 2: A Sunday and Sunday evening on the East Coast and

1653
01:15:53,000 --> 01:15:55,720
Speaker 2: the last Sunday before we change our clocks. Yes, next week,

1654
01:15:56,680 --> 01:15:58,840
Speaker 2: a majority of us at changing our clocks as we

1655
01:15:58,960 --> 01:16:01,840
Speaker 2: spring ahead. Let's jump ahead to question number three in

1656
01:16:01,920 --> 01:16:04,240
Speaker 2: our game of easy as one, two three four, where

1657
01:16:04,240 --> 01:16:07,000
Speaker 2: Brian has two lifelines left. Chris Prophet or technical producer

1658
01:16:07,040 --> 01:16:09,519
Speaker 2: in Manzi Blanio's at the news desk, all right to

1659
01:16:09,560 --> 01:16:12,160
Speaker 2: you ready, I am ready. He's got three points. Here's

1660
01:16:12,360 --> 01:16:15,360
Speaker 2: your opportunity to add three more. Name three of four

1661
01:16:15,600 --> 01:16:19,519
Speaker 2: Brian schools that made the women's Final four last season

1662
01:16:19,600 --> 01:16:23,439
Speaker 2: in college basketball. Okay, again, these aren't out here to

1663
01:16:23,560 --> 01:16:24,400
Speaker 2: trick you like there's a.

1664
01:16:24,479 --> 01:16:27,719
Speaker 3: There's a path that you can usually find to an answer.

1665
01:16:28,280 --> 01:16:35,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I definitely remember LSU and Angel Reese talking

1666
01:16:35,600 --> 01:16:39,040
Speaker 4: trash to Caitlin Clark and Iowa. So we've got LSU

1667
01:16:39,200 --> 01:16:43,880
Speaker 4: and IOWA, and I'm gonna have to use a lifeline for.

1668
01:16:44,680 --> 01:16:45,840
Speaker 5: One of the other two teams.

1669
01:16:46,080 --> 01:16:46,880
Speaker 3: He's nodding her head.

1670
01:16:47,479 --> 01:16:50,240
Speaker 4: Okay, that seems like a good sign. Moncey, I'll use

1671
01:16:50,280 --> 01:16:52,280
Speaker 4: you as a lifeline. You got the answer, you got

1672
01:16:52,320 --> 01:16:53,240
Speaker 4: the final two teams.

1673
01:16:53,360 --> 01:16:56,880
Speaker 10: So I think Iowa beat South Carolina in the Final

1674
01:16:56,960 --> 01:16:58,839
Speaker 10: four and then advance to play LSU.

1675
01:17:00,640 --> 01:17:01,200
Speaker 5: I'd buy that.

1676
01:17:01,640 --> 01:17:03,599
Speaker 11: Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's what went down.

1677
01:17:03,720 --> 01:17:07,600
Speaker 5: Okay, okay, pretty good enough for me. Sure I'll go

1678
01:17:07,680 --> 01:17:09,040
Speaker 5: final answer. Those three teams.

1679
01:17:09,240 --> 01:17:14,240
Speaker 2: Show me LSU, Yes, Angel Reese and the Tigers cutting

1680
01:17:14,280 --> 01:17:17,519
Speaker 2: down the nets last year. Show me Iowa. Yes, and

1681
01:17:17,560 --> 01:17:20,559
Speaker 2: they beat IOA on that championship game and to keep

1682
01:17:20,600 --> 01:17:23,040
Speaker 2: it perfect and they have Manzi come in and save

1683
01:17:23,120 --> 01:17:27,280
Speaker 2: the day. Show me South Carolina. Yes, it was ls

1684
01:17:27,640 --> 01:17:30,000
Speaker 2: who beat South Carolina. Iowa beat Virginia.

1685
01:17:31,600 --> 01:17:32,400
Speaker 10: I mean we got there.

1686
01:17:32,880 --> 01:17:34,160
Speaker 3: Still yeah, still.

1687
01:17:34,000 --> 01:17:37,800
Speaker 10: Count remember South Carolina losing in the final four, So

1688
01:17:38,040 --> 01:17:38,439
Speaker 10: there we go.

1689
01:17:38,600 --> 01:17:42,120
Speaker 8: Okay, guys, Junia Tech was the higher seed to Virginia Tech.

1690
01:17:42,160 --> 01:17:44,760
Speaker 2: At South Carolina were the one seeds. Iowa was a

1691
01:17:44,800 --> 01:17:47,320
Speaker 2: two seed. Last year, LSU made the Final four and

1692
01:17:47,400 --> 01:17:48,840
Speaker 2: one at All as a three seed.

1693
01:17:49,760 --> 01:17:52,200
Speaker 4: So it's kind of like saying, I remember Mahomes and

1694
01:17:52,280 --> 01:17:54,640
Speaker 4: the Chiefs beating the Lions.

1695
01:17:54,280 --> 01:17:55,720
Speaker 5: In the title game.

1696
01:17:56,040 --> 01:17:59,240
Speaker 8: We don't need to do this today, all right.

1697
01:17:59,520 --> 01:18:02,719
Speaker 2: Final question is Brian no again goes for a perfect

1698
01:18:02,760 --> 01:18:06,080
Speaker 2: game for the second straight week. And perfect games, Uh,

1699
01:18:06,439 --> 01:18:08,920
Speaker 2: they're they're rare here, So to go back to back

1700
01:18:09,560 --> 01:18:13,360
Speaker 2: is something named four or five Brian know, big ten

1701
01:18:13,520 --> 01:18:17,320
Speaker 2: schools that have won a men's college basketball national championship.

1702
01:18:17,880 --> 01:18:21,600
Speaker 4: Okay, wow, four or five Big ten schools won a

1703
01:18:21,760 --> 01:18:24,440
Speaker 4: college basketball national championship.

1704
01:18:24,920 --> 01:18:26,120
Speaker 5: Okay, So we've got IU.

1705
01:18:27,680 --> 01:18:33,639
Speaker 4: I'm gonna workshop with this with you, Chris Purfett, you know, careful,

1706
01:18:34,400 --> 01:18:38,240
Speaker 4: he's sabotage me on this. We've got tom Izzo and

1707
01:18:38,320 --> 01:18:40,240
Speaker 4: Michigan State. We've got Sparti in there.

1708
01:18:40,920 --> 01:18:45,320
Speaker 9: So we've got two regular season championships, not the tournaments. No,

1709
01:18:45,439 --> 01:18:48,560
Speaker 9: it's a national championship, national champion excuse me, excuse me?

1710
01:18:48,640 --> 01:18:53,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, so we've got a couple oh man, here

1711
01:18:54,000 --> 01:18:58,919
Speaker 5: let me see. Gosh, we go back in the archives

1712
01:18:58,960 --> 01:19:01,400
Speaker 5: over here, can we We got to get two more here.

1713
01:19:01,680 --> 01:19:02,720
Speaker 5: I'm thinking about.

1714
01:19:04,080 --> 01:19:09,800
Speaker 4: Illinois, Michigan and Purdue, and I'm not sure. Chris like, well,

1715
01:19:09,880 --> 01:19:12,360
Speaker 4: we definitely have Michigan, right because they're a Meal Robinson.

1716
01:19:12,439 --> 01:19:15,599
Speaker 9: So we're three yeah, and I don't Yeah, yeah, Michigan, Michigan,

1717
01:19:15,680 --> 01:19:19,200
Speaker 9: Michigan State, Indiana, Yeah, and we need one more. I

1718
01:19:20,200 --> 01:19:23,840
Speaker 9: swear there must be in Ohio State in here somewhere.

1719
01:19:24,040 --> 01:19:27,160
Speaker 5: How about Maryland? Maryland?

1720
01:19:27,320 --> 01:19:29,760
Speaker 9: Maryland would have been all in the a CC, but

1721
01:19:29,960 --> 01:19:34,080
Speaker 9: I don't yeah, and I and and just yeah, you're right, yeah,

1722
01:19:34,240 --> 01:19:35,760
Speaker 9: that would not They'd have to be in the Big

1723
01:19:35,840 --> 01:19:38,200
Speaker 9: Ten Conference. I gotta say, it's got to be like

1724
01:19:40,400 --> 01:19:44,600
Speaker 9: I don't think Wisconsin ever won one, Minnesota maybe not.

1725
01:19:44,920 --> 01:19:47,720
Speaker 9: All right, time for your final answers, I want to

1726
01:19:47,760 --> 01:19:48,960
Speaker 9: say just I'm gonna give you.

1727
01:19:49,040 --> 01:19:52,120
Speaker 8: I'm gonna say Ohio State has to be in here somewhere.

1728
01:19:53,479 --> 01:19:56,559
Speaker 5: You know they because they lost to Florida the one time. Okay,

1729
01:19:56,600 --> 01:19:57,559
Speaker 5: so we'll go with the first three.

1730
01:19:57,760 --> 01:20:03,799
Speaker 2: Show me Indiana, yeah, show me Michigan State, show me Michigan.

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Speaker 3: Yep. All right, and here's where it is. Show me

1732
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Speaker 3: Ohio State. Yep, there is nineteen.

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Speaker 2: Sixty champions and in nineteen forty one Wisconsin Badgers cut

1734
01:20:16,479 --> 01:20:20,479
Speaker 2: down in that. Good job, Chris, Yes, like another perfect

1735
01:20:20,560 --> 01:20:24,160
Speaker 2: game for Brian know Lebron James is in the news again.

1736
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Speaker 3: We talk about a next on Fox.

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1746
01:20:50,880 --> 01:20:54,880
Speaker 2: the NBA and just as we see the Celtics just

1747
01:20:54,960 --> 01:20:58,960
Speaker 2: completely dismantle the Warriors today from the get go the final,

1748
01:20:59,000 --> 01:21:01,920
Speaker 2: as you heard Manci say, one forty to eighty eight.

1749
01:21:02,280 --> 01:21:04,920
Speaker 2: Does a game like that change your mind at all

1750
01:21:05,680 --> 01:21:09,000
Speaker 2: on the Celtics fortunes or the Warriors fortunes when it

1751
01:21:09,080 --> 01:21:12,880
Speaker 2: comes to the to the upcoming NBA playoffs? Does does

1752
01:21:12,960 --> 01:21:16,240
Speaker 2: that move the needle for you with either team, Brian,

1753
01:21:16,360 --> 01:21:18,200
Speaker 2: when you see an outcome like that today.

1754
01:21:18,400 --> 01:21:22,320
Speaker 4: Not really, it doesn't do much because we know the

1755
01:21:22,400 --> 01:21:25,320
Speaker 4: Celtics are a fantastic team. They might win a championship

1756
01:21:25,400 --> 01:21:28,160
Speaker 4: this season. So it doesn't change anything I thought about them.

1757
01:21:28,560 --> 01:21:31,719
Speaker 4: They're crushing teams. They've won their games by an average

1758
01:21:31,760 --> 01:21:34,880
Speaker 4: of over ten points, and that's one of the best

1759
01:21:35,000 --> 01:21:37,599
Speaker 4: marks in the history of the NBA. You know, most

1760
01:21:37,640 --> 01:21:39,920
Speaker 4: teams that have won by an average of ten points

1761
01:21:39,960 --> 01:21:42,439
Speaker 4: going to win a championship. So it doesn't change how

1762
01:21:42,479 --> 01:21:45,439
Speaker 4: I feel about Boston. But Golden State had been playing

1763
01:21:45,560 --> 01:21:48,439
Speaker 4: really well on the road, and some people are like, hey,

1764
01:21:48,560 --> 01:21:51,360
Speaker 4: look look at the Warriors winning again on the road.

1765
01:21:51,439 --> 01:21:53,599
Speaker 5: They've won like seven in a row on the road.

1766
01:21:54,120 --> 01:21:57,080
Speaker 4: So it's just a reminder of It's like Denzel said

1767
01:21:57,120 --> 01:21:59,559
Speaker 4: in training Day, that day is dead dog.

1768
01:22:00,040 --> 01:22:02,560
Speaker 5: Don't roll like that no more. That's the Warriors.

1769
01:22:02,680 --> 01:22:05,800
Speaker 4: The Warriors are not gonna do anything of note when

1770
01:22:05,840 --> 01:22:07,000
Speaker 4: the playoffs roll around.

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01:22:07,200 --> 01:22:10,200
Speaker 2: It's also crazy to think that the Damian Liller trade

1772
01:22:11,000 --> 01:22:14,000
Speaker 2: likely would determine an NBA champion, but it would be

1773
01:22:14,040 --> 01:22:17,120
Speaker 2: the Boston Celtics because of the Bucks giving up Drew

1774
01:22:17,200 --> 01:22:19,360
Speaker 2: Holiday and Drew Holiday finding his way. And I'm not

1775
01:22:19,439 --> 01:22:21,880
Speaker 2: saying that Drew Holiday is the only piece, because obviously

1776
01:22:21,960 --> 01:22:24,200
Speaker 2: Boston has been building made it to the finals two

1777
01:22:24,280 --> 01:22:27,320
Speaker 2: years ago. But you add Porzingis, Derek Whites played well,

1778
01:22:27,760 --> 01:22:30,599
Speaker 2: and they sure seem to be a juggernaut. That's where

1779
01:22:31,040 --> 01:22:33,240
Speaker 2: That's where I thought this sense was. That's the feel

1780
01:22:33,280 --> 01:22:35,360
Speaker 2: that I get on social media is that this was

1781
01:22:35,439 --> 01:22:38,640
Speaker 2: Boston's statement, if there was a way to make a

1782
01:22:38,760 --> 01:22:42,439
Speaker 2: statement when they've already probably made statements throughout the first

1783
01:22:42,520 --> 01:22:46,040
Speaker 2: sixty games of the season, that this was the statement

1784
01:22:46,200 --> 01:22:49,360
Speaker 2: game to do. So I will just say this, this

1785
01:22:49,560 --> 01:22:52,960
Speaker 2: is just the this is just the wet blanket or

1786
01:22:53,120 --> 01:22:55,960
Speaker 2: you know, the dark cloud on a sunny day. Just

1787
01:22:56,000 --> 01:22:57,960
Speaker 2: make sure you don't peak too soon. That's the only

1788
01:22:58,439 --> 01:23:00,720
Speaker 2: the only thing, right, Yeah, too soon.

1789
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Speaker 4: And you know the other thing, Dan, I'll say it

1790
01:23:02,520 --> 01:23:05,720
Speaker 4: real fast, is you think about the Bucks. I think

1791
01:23:05,760 --> 01:23:08,880
Speaker 4: they're an interesting case study, if you will. So I

1792
01:23:09,000 --> 01:23:11,120
Speaker 4: was very analytical. I don't mean to make it sound

1793
01:23:11,200 --> 01:23:15,519
Speaker 4: like that, but they crashed and burned against the Miami Heat.

1794
01:23:16,160 --> 01:23:18,040
Speaker 4: They lost in the first round when they had the

1795
01:23:18,080 --> 01:23:21,120
Speaker 4: best record in the East, and that was embarrassing. And

1796
01:23:21,240 --> 01:23:25,000
Speaker 4: they changed all this stuff around. Right, They got rid

1797
01:23:25,040 --> 01:23:28,439
Speaker 4: of Bud, they got rid of Drew Holliday, they made

1798
01:23:28,479 --> 01:23:30,920
Speaker 4: the trade for Dame. And I get some of that

1799
01:23:31,040 --> 01:23:33,600
Speaker 4: because you got to keep Yannis happy. Gianness is like,

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Speaker 4: I'm here as long as you basically do things to

1801
01:23:37,240 --> 01:23:40,840
Speaker 4: make us title contenders every year. So that was conditional

1802
01:23:40,920 --> 01:23:42,240
Speaker 4: love if you want, so, you got to keep you

1803
01:23:42,280 --> 01:23:45,000
Speaker 4: honest happy. I get that, But there's something to be

1804
01:23:45,160 --> 01:23:48,160
Speaker 4: said for you don't have to just change and change

1805
01:23:48,240 --> 01:23:50,760
Speaker 4: and change. Look at them now, are they any better?

1806
01:23:51,160 --> 01:23:54,160
Speaker 4: And I love Damian Lillard, but you mentioned Drew Holliday.

1807
01:23:54,439 --> 01:23:57,400
Speaker 4: Their problems are on the defensive end. Drew Holliday is

1808
01:23:57,439 --> 01:24:02,439
Speaker 4: a magnificent defensive Guardian Lillard is not. Are they any

1809
01:24:02,520 --> 01:24:06,840
Speaker 4: better with Adrian Griffin after Bud? No, they fired him.

1810
01:24:06,840 --> 01:24:09,519
Speaker 4: Are they any better with Doc after Bud? I would

1811
01:24:09,600 --> 01:24:11,680
Speaker 4: argue not. So it's one of these things. It's not

1812
01:24:11,880 --> 01:24:14,519
Speaker 4: sexy to say, Hey, let's run it back. Giannis was

1813
01:24:14,600 --> 01:24:16,760
Speaker 4: hurt for two and a half games in that first

1814
01:24:16,840 --> 01:24:19,960
Speaker 4: round loss against Miami, who made it to the finals.

1815
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Speaker 5: Right, let's run it back, Let's retool a little bit.

1816
01:24:23,479 --> 01:24:25,880
Speaker 4: We don't have to make massive changes it's not as

1817
01:24:25,920 --> 01:24:28,439
Speaker 4: sexy to do that, but you might be better off

1818
01:24:28,920 --> 01:24:31,479
Speaker 4: running it back instead of making huge changes.

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Speaker 3: I don't think there was.

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Speaker 2: Any way that they thought that Drew Holliday would end

1821
01:24:35,600 --> 01:24:38,160
Speaker 2: up in a Celtics uniform. Yeah, you know, you know,

1822
01:24:38,240 --> 01:24:40,240
Speaker 2: because when you think about like what that would set

1823
01:24:40,320 --> 01:24:44,720
Speaker 2: up and lo and behold, that's what ended up playing out.

1824
01:24:45,000 --> 01:24:46,960
Speaker 2: I do think they needed to make a change. Something

1825
01:24:47,040 --> 01:24:49,040
Speaker 2: had to be done. You had to get better offensively,

1826
01:24:49,080 --> 01:24:50,400
Speaker 2: and this was a way for them to do it.

1827
01:24:50,840 --> 01:24:53,320
Speaker 2: It just came at the expense of Drew Holiday. And

1828
01:24:53,400 --> 01:24:55,040
Speaker 2: to your point, yeah, they're kind of looking for that.

1829
01:24:55,080 --> 01:24:57,439
Speaker 2: You wonder if Patrick Beverly's going to provide that. I

1830
01:24:57,720 --> 01:25:00,320
Speaker 2: joked last week on the Doc Rivers haters. The Bucks

1831
01:25:00,360 --> 01:25:03,439
Speaker 2: went two and zero out of the gate. They've won

1832
01:25:03,520 --> 01:25:06,080
Speaker 2: their last five, granted the games against the Bulls. They

1833
01:25:06,160 --> 01:25:08,439
Speaker 2: just beat the Hornets and back to back games. Now

1834
01:25:08,479 --> 01:25:11,960
Speaker 2: it gets tougher for them. But again, the way Boston's going,

1835
01:25:12,240 --> 01:25:15,559
Speaker 2: whether it's the Bucks, the Cavs, or whoever, Boston's going

1836
01:25:15,600 --> 01:25:17,760
Speaker 2: to have have it on cruise control. And the other

1837
01:25:17,840 --> 01:25:19,599
Speaker 2: thing that we know about this time of year, Brian,

1838
01:25:20,200 --> 01:25:22,000
Speaker 2: there are other teams that put it on cruise control

1839
01:25:22,080 --> 01:25:24,280
Speaker 2: that just want to end the season, yeah, and not

1840
01:25:24,479 --> 01:25:27,320
Speaker 2: win games. So you will get a lot of ten

1841
01:25:27,520 --> 01:25:30,240
Speaker 2: twelve game winning streaks from certain teams because there are

1842
01:25:30,320 --> 01:25:32,560
Speaker 2: teams that just don't want to compete anymore, and this

1843
01:25:32,760 --> 01:25:35,200
Speaker 2: is where they mail it in. The Wizards have lost

1844
01:25:35,320 --> 01:25:38,240
Speaker 2: fourteen in a row, so you know there's a team

1845
01:25:38,600 --> 01:25:41,000
Speaker 2: Memphis doesn't have much to play for. They've only lost

1846
01:25:41,080 --> 01:25:42,400
Speaker 2: five in a row, but how much are they going

1847
01:25:42,479 --> 01:25:44,120
Speaker 2: to be locked in for the rest of the year.

1848
01:25:44,400 --> 01:25:46,599
Speaker 2: This is where you start seeing longer winning streaks because

1849
01:25:46,600 --> 01:25:48,160
Speaker 2: teams would rather lose than win games.

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01:25:48,600 --> 01:25:49,599
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's true.

1851
01:25:49,800 --> 01:25:52,800
Speaker 4: And I'm impressed by a couple of teams that could

1852
01:25:52,840 --> 01:25:55,479
Speaker 4: be a little bit lethargic in the regular season. A

1853
01:25:55,520 --> 01:25:58,720
Speaker 4: team like Denver, they just won a championship and yet

1854
01:25:59,080 --> 01:26:00,880
Speaker 4: they're tied for the best record in the West.

1855
01:26:01,080 --> 01:26:02,519
Speaker 5: They're forty two to nineteen.

1856
01:26:02,680 --> 01:26:05,960
Speaker 4: You know you think about That's why I'm skeptical about

1857
01:26:06,000 --> 01:26:07,880
Speaker 4: a team like the Knicks, where I don't mean this

1858
01:26:07,960 --> 01:26:11,840
Speaker 4: as a negative, but they're a regular season, tryhard team,

1859
01:26:12,080 --> 01:26:15,080
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. Like they are focused, they

1860
01:26:15,200 --> 01:26:19,200
Speaker 4: bring the intensity every night. Tibbs has got him ready

1861
01:26:19,560 --> 01:26:22,560
Speaker 4: and that's not a negative. It's just when the competition

1862
01:26:22,880 --> 01:26:26,320
Speaker 4: ramps it up in the postseason and they're meeting your level,

1863
01:26:26,880 --> 01:26:28,599
Speaker 4: is there a drop off with the Knicks?

1864
01:26:28,680 --> 01:26:30,679
Speaker 5: So I can't wait for the playoffs. Man, it's gonna

1865
01:26:30,680 --> 01:26:31,200
Speaker 5: be really interesting.

1866
01:26:31,280 --> 01:26:33,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, Sixer's got a big win today against the Mavericks

1867
01:26:33,840 --> 01:26:36,080
Speaker 2: doing so and Tyree Smacksy had to miss a little

1868
01:26:36,080 --> 01:26:37,720
Speaker 2: of it and they didn't really even need him in

1869
01:26:37,760 --> 01:26:39,400
Speaker 2: the second half. But that's a good win. And there's

1870
01:26:39,439 --> 01:26:41,760
Speaker 2: hope that Joel Embiid could come back at the end

1871
01:26:41,800 --> 01:26:43,559
Speaker 2: of March. So a lot of NBA to talk about,

1872
01:26:43,600 --> 01:26:45,799
Speaker 2: But why not look ahead to the NBA Draft because

1873
01:26:46,360 --> 01:26:50,519
Speaker 2: that's where Lebron James enters The conversation entered it when

1874
01:26:50,800 --> 01:26:54,280
Speaker 2: the tweet was sent out that ESPN was removing Bronnie

1875
01:26:54,360 --> 01:26:57,519
Speaker 2: James from their twenty twenty four mock draft. They included

1876
01:26:57,600 --> 01:26:59,439
Speaker 2: him as a second round pick in the twenty twenty

1877
01:26:59,479 --> 01:27:02,759
Speaker 2: five draft, and then Lebron came out with his tweet

1878
01:27:02,840 --> 01:27:06,479
Speaker 2: supporting Bronnie and what it was all about, contradicting everything

1879
01:27:06,520 --> 01:27:07,880
Speaker 2: that he had done over the last you know.

1880
01:27:07,960 --> 01:27:08,800
Speaker 3: Four or five months.

1881
01:27:09,479 --> 01:27:12,000
Speaker 2: We are able to move this story a little bit

1882
01:27:12,040 --> 01:27:15,559
Speaker 2: ahead because of what Adrian Ward Genarowski said last night

1883
01:27:15,960 --> 01:27:18,960
Speaker 2: prior to the Lakers Nuggets game that aired on ABC

1884
01:27:19,720 --> 01:27:22,799
Speaker 2: about Bronnie James's future and how his future in college

1885
01:27:22,840 --> 01:27:25,519
Speaker 2: basketball may not be as long as some thing. This

1886
01:27:25,720 --> 01:27:27,680
Speaker 2: was wojan last night's broadcast.

1887
01:27:27,680 --> 01:27:31,280
Speaker 5: Only I talked to Rich Paul CEO clut Sports. Obviously

1888
01:27:31,400 --> 01:27:32,479
Speaker 5: lebron james agent.

1889
01:27:32,520 --> 01:27:37,120
Speaker 14: He will also be Bronnie James's representative, and a couple

1890
01:27:37,160 --> 01:27:39,240
Speaker 14: of things they're really gonna look at when they make

1891
01:27:39,240 --> 01:27:42,919
Speaker 14: a decision about leaving school or returning for a sophomore

1892
01:27:43,000 --> 01:27:44,000
Speaker 14: year at USC.

1893
01:27:43,920 --> 01:27:47,880
Speaker 3: Number one, Rich Paul and Lebron James. Bronnie James will

1894
01:27:47,880 --> 01:27:49,440
Speaker 3: be far less interested.

1895
01:27:49,160 --> 01:27:51,720
Speaker 15: In how high he will be picked, but is the

1896
01:27:51,880 --> 01:27:56,880
Speaker 15: right team interested, the right developmental situation for him, perhaps

1897
01:27:57,000 --> 01:27:58,280
Speaker 15: later on in the first round.

1898
01:27:58,520 --> 01:28:00,760
Speaker 3: But here's one thing that will consideration.

1899
01:28:00,960 --> 01:28:03,680
Speaker 15: I was called by Rich Paul the idea that he

1900
01:28:03,840 --> 01:28:07,360
Speaker 15: needs to play with Lebron James, be on the same roster,

1901
01:28:07,520 --> 01:28:10,720
Speaker 15: play with him on the Lakers. That is, as Rich

1902
01:28:10,760 --> 01:28:14,120
Speaker 15: Paul said to me, if it organically happened, Lebron would

1903
01:28:14,120 --> 01:28:14,639
Speaker 15: be head over.

1904
01:28:14,840 --> 01:28:18,759
Speaker 16: Feels excited to play with Bronni. But in Rich Paul's words,

1905
01:28:19,200 --> 01:28:22,479
Speaker 16: Lebron wants Bronni to be his own man, and so

1906
01:28:23,120 --> 01:28:26,880
Speaker 16: it'll certainly be something as we get further into the spring,

1907
01:28:27,640 --> 01:28:29,880
Speaker 16: and he's got a decision to make, you know, they'll

1908
01:28:29,920 --> 01:28:32,240
Speaker 16: have time to get a real sense of where they

1909
01:28:32,320 --> 01:28:33,200
Speaker 16: stand in the NBA.

1910
01:28:33,320 --> 01:28:34,960
Speaker 5: From this twenty twenty four draft.

1911
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Speaker 2: What a bunch of bs. And I'm not saying that

1912
01:28:38,720 --> 01:28:40,920
Speaker 2: Woj is full of bs, it's just the stuff that's

1913
01:28:40,960 --> 01:28:42,040
Speaker 2: being being.

1914
01:28:42,000 --> 01:28:42,599
Speaker 3: Fed to him.

1915
01:28:43,040 --> 01:28:47,479
Speaker 2: This is this Lebron playing with Bronni dream is still

1916
01:28:47,520 --> 01:28:49,200
Speaker 2: alive and well, and they can deny it and they

1917
01:28:49,240 --> 01:28:51,760
Speaker 2: can do what they want. But that whole conversation of

1918
01:28:51,840 --> 01:28:54,000
Speaker 2: what Woj was just saying that he had with Rich

1919
01:28:54,120 --> 01:28:58,479
Speaker 2: Paul just tells you, like, it's never mattered on how

1920
01:28:58,600 --> 01:29:01,360
Speaker 2: good Bronni is, whether it be in a mock draft,

1921
01:29:01,720 --> 01:29:03,880
Speaker 2: whether it be how we watch him play at USC

1922
01:29:04,120 --> 01:29:06,519
Speaker 2: or what he was like coming out of Sierra Canyon.

1923
01:29:07,080 --> 01:29:09,640
Speaker 2: It's just all been the fact of how does this

1924
01:29:09,880 --> 01:29:13,640
Speaker 2: work in the James Gang plan of things? And the

1925
01:29:13,760 --> 01:29:16,920
Speaker 2: thing that shocked me about it, how many times, Brian,

1926
01:29:17,320 --> 01:29:20,240
Speaker 2: do we have guys who are second round picks being

1927
01:29:20,360 --> 01:29:23,439
Speaker 2: like I I'm thinking about going pro but I want

1928
01:29:23,479 --> 01:29:24,760
Speaker 2: to I want to make sure that I find the

1929
01:29:24,840 --> 01:29:28,760
Speaker 2: right fit for me with a draft pick. Well, how

1930
01:29:28,840 --> 01:29:30,479
Speaker 2: the heck do you know who's going to draft deal?

1931
01:29:30,640 --> 01:29:32,479
Speaker 5: Exactly right, that's my whole thing.

1932
01:29:32,600 --> 01:29:35,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like this statement is I don't this is

1933
01:29:35,479 --> 01:29:38,559
Speaker 4: from Rich Paul, you know, Brownie's agent. I don't value

1934
01:29:38,600 --> 01:29:41,800
Speaker 4: a young player getting into the lottery as much as

1935
01:29:41,840 --> 01:29:44,439
Speaker 4: I do getting him on the right team in the

1936
01:29:44,560 --> 01:29:48,320
Speaker 4: right developmental situation. That was the statement that you read, Dan,

1937
01:29:48,880 --> 01:29:52,680
Speaker 4: And it's like, this isn't usc you can pick what

1938
01:29:52,880 --> 01:29:54,000
Speaker 4: college you want to go to.

1939
01:29:54,280 --> 01:29:57,120
Speaker 5: You can't pick like, let's say I don't know for.

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01:29:57,160 --> 01:29:59,719
Speaker 4: The sake argument, the Orlando Magic are on the clock,

1941
01:30:00,240 --> 01:30:02,200
Speaker 4: and for whatever reason, you're like, no, no, no, that's

1942
01:30:02,240 --> 01:30:05,120
Speaker 4: not a great developmental situation for Bronnie. Well, if they

1943
01:30:05,200 --> 01:30:07,880
Speaker 4: pick you, that's where you're going. Yeah, that's just how

1944
01:30:07,920 --> 01:30:11,680
Speaker 4: it's the draft, which is this idea, Yeah, of like

1945
01:30:12,200 --> 01:30:14,880
Speaker 4: you got to be in the right developmental situation. Yeah,

1946
01:30:15,040 --> 01:30:17,320
Speaker 4: if it just happens to fall that way and it

1947
01:30:17,439 --> 01:30:20,120
Speaker 4: works out, great, You have no control over.

1948
01:30:20,000 --> 01:30:22,719
Speaker 2: That, which tells me that there's got to be something

1949
01:30:22,800 --> 01:30:27,400
Speaker 2: in the works with some NBA team. And then when

1950
01:30:27,439 --> 01:30:29,559
Speaker 2: you think about that, we'll like what NBA team, Well,

1951
01:30:30,000 --> 01:30:32,080
Speaker 2: there's not many to choose from, Like when we think

1952
01:30:32,120 --> 01:30:37,240
Speaker 2: of like great NBA developmental teams to come into mind,

1953
01:30:37,680 --> 01:30:40,519
Speaker 2: the Heat and the Spurs, Okay, like that, Like that

1954
01:30:40,560 --> 01:30:42,760
Speaker 2: would be like you would think, like, okay, under Greg

1955
01:30:42,800 --> 01:30:45,640
Speaker 2: Popovich's wing, what could he do? Do you think that

1956
01:30:45,720 --> 01:30:47,400
Speaker 2: they really want to do Lebron a favor?

1957
01:30:47,720 --> 01:30:48,760
Speaker 3: No, I don't think.

1958
01:30:49,000 --> 01:30:52,240
Speaker 2: I think it would be tampering almost if you're consulting

1959
01:30:52,280 --> 01:30:54,360
Speaker 2: in a way of, hey, draft my guy in the

1960
01:30:54,400 --> 01:30:56,479
Speaker 2: second round so he can develop. Do you think the

1961
01:30:56,479 --> 01:30:58,760
Speaker 2: Miami he want to do Lebron a solid I'm sure

1962
01:30:58,760 --> 01:30:59,200
Speaker 2: I don't.

1963
01:30:59,000 --> 01:31:01,439
Speaker 5: Think pat Riley, it's that.

1964
01:31:01,920 --> 01:31:04,559
Speaker 3: Absolutely, not no way in heck.

1965
01:31:04,840 --> 01:31:06,759
Speaker 2: But you have the Lakers sitting there with a second

1966
01:31:06,840 --> 01:31:09,360
Speaker 2: round pick, and then you had the caveat like, well, hey,

1967
01:31:09,760 --> 01:31:12,120
Speaker 2: if things happen organically, so.

1968
01:31:12,240 --> 01:31:13,280
Speaker 3: Then this does set up.

1969
01:31:13,320 --> 01:31:16,519
Speaker 2: So then Lebron says, all right, Lakers take my son

1970
01:31:16,600 --> 01:31:19,160
Speaker 2: in the second round, and then I don't have to

1971
01:31:19,200 --> 01:31:21,200
Speaker 2: opt out of my contract, and then I'll be in

1972
01:31:21,400 --> 01:31:23,800
Speaker 2: LA and it's a second round pick and I get

1973
01:31:23,840 --> 01:31:27,040
Speaker 2: to fulfill the dream of playing with my son. Like

1974
01:31:27,160 --> 01:31:31,640
Speaker 2: it it is such laying the groundwork of trying to

1975
01:31:32,040 --> 01:31:36,439
Speaker 2: play this all out. I don't ever ever remember this scenario,

1976
01:31:36,479 --> 01:31:38,840
Speaker 2: and I know Bronni is different, But if he has

1977
01:31:39,000 --> 01:31:42,879
Speaker 2: developing to do in the transfer portal in college basketball,

1978
01:31:42,960 --> 01:31:44,840
Speaker 2: maybe you would want to go and transfer to a

1979
01:31:44,880 --> 01:31:47,280
Speaker 2: different school where you feel like that coach could develop

1980
01:31:47,840 --> 01:31:50,600
Speaker 2: you as a player. Right, not be drafted in the

1981
01:31:50,680 --> 01:31:54,040
Speaker 2: second round by some NBA team that you've already struck

1982
01:31:54,120 --> 01:31:57,000
Speaker 2: a side deal with Like that is just it's weird

1983
01:31:57,080 --> 01:31:59,639
Speaker 2: and it's odd, and there's just there's too many things

1984
01:31:59,720 --> 01:32:02,120
Speaker 2: to play that Lebron is saying, all right, Lakers, you're

1985
01:32:02,120 --> 01:32:04,040
Speaker 2: gonna take him with a second round pick and we're

1986
01:32:04,080 --> 01:32:05,320
Speaker 2: gonna play together next season.

1987
01:32:05,720 --> 01:32:07,360
Speaker 3: Otherwise I may have different plans.

1988
01:32:07,920 --> 01:32:12,040
Speaker 4: I get dan that sometimes your tastes will change in

1989
01:32:12,160 --> 01:32:15,640
Speaker 4: your lifetime. For instance, an odd example, but off the

1990
01:32:15,720 --> 01:32:18,200
Speaker 4: top of my head, I used to hate when there

1991
01:32:18,320 --> 01:32:22,639
Speaker 4: was mayonnaise on my BLTs. Okay, I used to scrape

1992
01:32:22,680 --> 01:32:25,400
Speaker 4: the mayonnaise off, like, oh, it's ruined the sandwich. After

1993
01:32:25,479 --> 01:32:27,840
Speaker 4: a while, I would forget to ask him to take

1994
01:32:27,920 --> 01:32:29,560
Speaker 4: it off, and I just got used to it, and

1995
01:32:29,640 --> 01:32:31,960
Speaker 4: it my taste changed and I'm okay with it. Now

1996
01:32:32,920 --> 01:32:36,560
Speaker 4: is that the same thing as Lebron who initially is like,

1997
01:32:36,880 --> 01:32:38,479
Speaker 4: I definitely want to play with Brony.

1998
01:32:38,560 --> 01:32:39,960
Speaker 5: I think that would be the coolest thing.

1999
01:32:40,479 --> 01:32:44,120
Speaker 4: And now his taste has changed to ah, you know,

2000
01:32:44,640 --> 01:32:46,400
Speaker 4: I want him to be his own man, but we

2001
01:32:46,439 --> 01:32:48,560
Speaker 4: don't necessarily have to play with each other, you know,

2002
01:32:48,640 --> 01:32:51,600
Speaker 4: on the same squad, right, Like, I just don't know

2003
01:32:51,720 --> 01:32:54,800
Speaker 4: what to make of that. Where is that what he

2004
01:32:55,080 --> 01:32:58,479
Speaker 4: truly feels or is this him coming to grips with

2005
01:32:58,760 --> 01:33:01,320
Speaker 4: I really don't have any set and if that happens

2006
01:33:01,479 --> 01:33:04,759
Speaker 4: or not, it's hard to know exactly what he truly

2007
01:33:04,880 --> 01:33:06,520
Speaker 4: feels about that whole situation.

2008
01:33:07,120 --> 01:33:11,360
Speaker 2: I think it's all bs. I think that he completely

2009
01:33:11,439 --> 01:33:13,280
Speaker 2: wants to play with Bronnie. He doesn't want to make

2010
01:33:13,320 --> 01:33:16,200
Speaker 2: it seem by the way it is a very selfish thing.

2011
01:33:16,439 --> 01:33:18,599
Speaker 2: Like we talk about Lebron wanting to play with Bronnie.

2012
01:33:18,720 --> 01:33:20,800
Speaker 2: Is that Bronni's dream to play a season in the

2013
01:33:20,960 --> 01:33:24,599
Speaker 2: NBA with his dad? Is anybody? Maybe somebody has asked him.

2014
01:33:24,680 --> 01:33:26,960
Speaker 2: I I don't know, but it always seems like this

2015
01:33:27,200 --> 01:33:29,720
Speaker 2: was Lebron's dream to be able to do that and

2016
01:33:29,800 --> 01:33:31,960
Speaker 2: be able to have that legacy. But I don't know,

2017
01:33:31,960 --> 01:33:34,240
Speaker 2: if anybody has said, hey, hey, Bronnie, do you actually

2018
01:33:34,320 --> 01:33:37,120
Speaker 2: want to play a season with your pops in the NBA?

2019
01:33:37,160 --> 01:33:38,840
Speaker 2: Would you like to kind of carve out your own

2020
01:33:39,320 --> 01:33:41,960
Speaker 2: you know, your own way. It's just it's too odd

2021
01:33:42,120 --> 01:33:44,360
Speaker 2: and there were just too many things that there with

2022
01:33:44,640 --> 01:33:47,320
Speaker 2: the it's not it's not about like where he is,

2023
01:33:47,360 --> 01:33:49,960
Speaker 2: it's where he can grow. Like what then you're gonna

2024
01:33:50,000 --> 01:33:52,320
Speaker 2: now spend time in the G League? Is that what's

2025
01:33:52,360 --> 01:33:54,000
Speaker 2: gonna happen? And you're gonna go back and forth in

2026
01:33:54,080 --> 01:33:56,360
Speaker 2: the G League? Don't you think maybe another year in

2027
01:33:56,479 --> 01:33:59,560
Speaker 2: college would be better? You know, by the way, is

2028
01:33:59,600 --> 01:34:03,679
Speaker 2: finally for college, there's three finalists when he was choosing

2029
01:34:03,720 --> 01:34:07,080
Speaker 2: on where to go, where usc that he ultimately picked,

2030
01:34:07,520 --> 01:34:11,839
Speaker 2: you know, went out close to home. Ohio State obviously

2031
01:34:11,920 --> 01:34:15,240
Speaker 2: the bronze connections with Ohio but they fired Chris Holtman

2032
01:34:15,280 --> 01:34:17,800
Speaker 2: this season. And Oregon, and you'd have to think that

2033
01:34:17,800 --> 01:34:20,719
Speaker 2: there was some sort of Nike connection in what Oregon

2034
01:34:20,760 --> 01:34:24,040
Speaker 2: has done. But Oregon's in danger of not making the

2035
01:34:24,120 --> 01:34:28,919
Speaker 2: NCAA tournament like it wasn't It wasn't the you know, Yukon, Kentucky.

2036
01:34:29,640 --> 01:34:31,960
Speaker 2: You know, sort of like hey, that are bringing him in.

2037
01:34:32,560 --> 01:34:35,320
Speaker 2: All of these had like weird, I don't know, not weird,

2038
01:34:35,439 --> 01:34:40,840
Speaker 2: but angles that weren't necessarily about becoming the greatest basketball player.

2039
01:34:40,800 --> 01:34:43,240
Speaker 3: Right, you know, like like to go to Ohio State.

2040
01:34:43,280 --> 01:34:47,000
Speaker 2: There's obviously the connection of Lebron being from there and

2041
01:34:47,040 --> 01:34:51,360
Speaker 2: staying at USC, you know, backyard, you're back home, But

2042
01:34:51,439 --> 01:34:53,519
Speaker 2: in terms of like improving which makes which tells me

2043
01:34:53,560 --> 01:34:56,599
Speaker 2: another thing that there is it didn't matter on how

2044
01:34:56,720 --> 01:34:59,479
Speaker 2: good or how bad he was, that there is this

2045
01:34:59,680 --> 01:35:02,480
Speaker 2: plan in place that somehow is going to be manipulated

2046
01:35:02,560 --> 01:35:05,040
Speaker 2: so those two can end up playing together. And I

2047
01:35:05,080 --> 01:35:07,679
Speaker 2: just think it's very selfish on Lebron's part for doing

2048
01:35:07,720 --> 01:35:10,360
Speaker 2: it and to try to And I think they're going

2049
01:35:10,439 --> 01:35:13,519
Speaker 2: to pin it on the Lakers because the draft comes

2050
01:35:13,560 --> 01:35:15,720
Speaker 2: before Lebron will make his decision on whether he wants

2051
01:35:15,720 --> 01:35:17,840
Speaker 2: to opt out of his contract. I mean, like, those

2052
01:35:17,880 --> 01:35:20,519
Speaker 2: are the things that we're gonna end up having to

2053
01:35:20,600 --> 01:35:23,160
Speaker 2: deal with in June. And it really puts the onus

2054
01:35:23,240 --> 01:35:25,880
Speaker 2: on LA to end up making that draft pick in

2055
01:35:25,920 --> 01:35:27,439
Speaker 2: the second round when it comes to it, if he

2056
01:35:27,520 --> 01:35:28,200
Speaker 2: ends up entering.

2057
01:35:28,400 --> 01:35:30,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, it makes me think of a couple of things

2058
01:35:30,320 --> 01:35:34,920
Speaker 4: where the first thing is with Bronni suffering that cardiac arrest.

2059
01:35:35,360 --> 01:35:39,720
Speaker 4: You know, that was last July, and that sideline him

2060
01:35:39,760 --> 01:35:43,040
Speaker 4: for nearly five months, you know, So how big of

2061
01:35:43,080 --> 01:35:47,000
Speaker 4: an impact has that had on his freshman season at USC.

2062
01:35:47,320 --> 01:35:50,280
Speaker 4: I think it has made a big impact as far

2063
01:35:50,320 --> 01:35:53,559
Speaker 4: as that goes. So, yeah, maybe going back to USC

2064
01:35:53,760 --> 01:35:56,880
Speaker 4: for another year would be better for his all around career.

2065
01:35:56,920 --> 01:36:00,200
Speaker 4: He's going to make that determination. The other one thing

2066
01:36:00,280 --> 01:36:05,360
Speaker 4: I think about is you think about Austin Rivers. He

2067
01:36:05,439 --> 01:36:07,880
Speaker 4: was on ESPN probably about a month ago or so,

2068
01:36:08,240 --> 01:36:11,000
Speaker 4: and he was talking about he hopes that Bronni goes

2069
01:36:11,040 --> 01:36:14,160
Speaker 4: to a different team than his dad lebron because of

2070
01:36:14,240 --> 01:36:18,439
Speaker 4: his experience. He said, when I was coached by my dad,

2071
01:36:18,560 --> 01:36:22,040
Speaker 4: Doc Rivers, it was not a great experience because of

2072
01:36:22,160 --> 01:36:25,120
Speaker 4: everybody having everything to say about, Oh it's just because

2073
01:36:25,160 --> 01:36:27,639
Speaker 4: your dad, bah bah bah. He was like, it could

2074
01:36:27,640 --> 01:36:30,600
Speaker 4: be a rough situation for Bronni. So I don't know

2075
01:36:30,720 --> 01:36:33,280
Speaker 4: what Bronni wants to do. I mean, to be fair,

2076
01:36:33,360 --> 01:36:35,519
Speaker 4: he might be that would be really cool. I don't

2077
01:36:35,600 --> 01:36:38,599
Speaker 4: know where he stands on that whole thing. But if

2078
01:36:38,680 --> 01:36:42,759
Speaker 4: that's not his desire and he feels like Austin Rivers

2079
01:36:42,840 --> 01:36:45,599
Speaker 4: did when he was coached by his dad, Doc.

2080
01:36:46,439 --> 01:36:47,920
Speaker 5: That would be a rough spot to be in.

2081
01:36:48,000 --> 01:36:50,680
Speaker 4: I mean, like there are rougher spots to be in

2082
01:36:50,760 --> 01:36:54,000
Speaker 4: in life, but that's not an ideal situation if that's

2083
01:36:54,040 --> 01:36:55,320
Speaker 4: not what you want to sign up for.

2084
01:36:55,840 --> 01:36:58,920
Speaker 2: And again, Lebron's tweet that he deleted this past week

2085
01:36:59,400 --> 01:37:02,200
Speaker 2: online Monday was can y'all please just let the kid

2086
01:37:02,320 --> 01:37:06,559
Speaker 2: be a kid and enjoy college basketball? And this message

2087
01:37:06,680 --> 01:37:08,560
Speaker 2: is like, how soon can we get him out of

2088
01:37:08,600 --> 01:37:11,080
Speaker 2: college basketball and be drafted into the second round and

2089
01:37:11,160 --> 01:37:12,080
Speaker 2: progressed by a team?

2090
01:37:12,479 --> 01:37:12,639
Speaker 1: Right?

2091
01:37:12,720 --> 01:37:13,160
Speaker 5: That's right?

2092
01:37:13,280 --> 01:37:17,000
Speaker 4: And that was in January where he said he could

2093
01:37:17,040 --> 01:37:20,639
Speaker 4: play for us right now, and it was like, wait

2094
01:37:20,680 --> 01:37:22,439
Speaker 4: a minute, so which is it.

2095
01:37:22,560 --> 01:37:24,960
Speaker 5: Are we just letting him be a kid? Or could

2096
01:37:25,000 --> 01:37:26,880
Speaker 5: he play for the Lakers right here, right now?

2097
01:37:27,000 --> 01:37:27,120
Speaker 4: Right?

2098
01:37:27,160 --> 01:37:30,120
Speaker 2: That just doesn't add up the most popular second round

2099
01:37:30,160 --> 01:37:32,639
Speaker 2: pick that we've had in along. And again, I don't

2100
01:37:32,680 --> 01:37:35,040
Speaker 2: put one ounce. I'm so glad Browny James is healthy.

2101
01:37:35,320 --> 01:37:37,360
Speaker 2: I'm so glad that he's been able to resume his career.

2102
01:37:37,680 --> 01:37:40,479
Speaker 2: I just think he's been putting into an unbelievably tough spot.

2103
01:37:41,240 --> 01:37:42,120
Speaker 5: But he has been.

2104
01:37:42,400 --> 01:37:45,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, he has, Like this is no Joe Schmoe, that's

2105
01:37:45,160 --> 01:37:48,200
Speaker 4: your dad. Lebron's the only guy to get to forty

2106
01:37:48,280 --> 01:37:51,880
Speaker 4: thousand points. That happened last night, and now you're you know,

2107
01:37:52,040 --> 01:37:54,920
Speaker 4: you're on the same squad. That's not that it'd be

2108
01:37:55,040 --> 01:37:58,120
Speaker 4: like I think of Ken Griffy Junior and his dad,

2109
01:37:58,240 --> 01:38:00,320
Speaker 4: remember that when they were sitting on the bench together,

2110
01:38:00,960 --> 01:38:04,280
Speaker 4: and there's that old clip, like not in high def obviously,

2111
01:38:04,320 --> 01:38:06,320
Speaker 4: and it's like, wow, that was really cool. Yeah, the

2112
01:38:06,520 --> 01:38:09,160
Speaker 4: kid went on to be an all time great. Ken

2113
01:38:09,240 --> 01:38:13,960
Speaker 4: Griffy Senior was not an all time great, Lebron. Most

2114
01:38:14,000 --> 01:38:16,680
Speaker 4: people have him as the number two overall player in

2115
01:38:16,720 --> 01:38:19,120
Speaker 4: the history of the game, you know what I mean.

2116
01:38:19,240 --> 01:38:21,600
Speaker 4: So to be teammates with that guy, that's different than

2117
01:38:21,640 --> 01:38:22,599
Speaker 4: the Griffies for sure.

2118
01:38:22,720 --> 01:38:22,880
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2119
01:38:23,160 --> 01:38:26,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, because because Ken Griffy Junior earned his way up there,

2120
01:38:26,920 --> 01:38:29,320
Speaker 2: and it's not that Bronnie. You know, Bronnie wouldn't have

2121
01:38:29,400 --> 01:38:33,439
Speaker 2: probably earned this spot, you know for what for where

2122
01:38:33,520 --> 01:38:35,360
Speaker 2: he is in his game right now, it just doesn't

2123
01:38:35,360 --> 01:38:38,320
Speaker 2: seem that it's that it's earned. A story that we

2124
01:38:38,360 --> 01:38:41,320
Speaker 2: will continue to follow, which, by the way, almost hijacked

2125
01:38:41,400 --> 01:38:44,040
Speaker 2: last night's Nuggets. Nobody's talking about the Nuggets beating the

2126
01:38:44,120 --> 01:38:47,240
Speaker 2: Lakers again and doing it like in normal fashion, like

2127
01:38:47,280 --> 01:38:48,719
Speaker 2: they did in the Western Conference Finals.

2128
01:38:48,760 --> 01:38:49,880
Speaker 3: We're talking about this, all right.

2129
01:38:49,920 --> 01:38:52,479
Speaker 2: He's Brian though, I'm Dan Bayer, hanging out on a

2130
01:38:52,640 --> 01:38:57,120
Speaker 2: Sunday Nixon Calves just getting underway. Did I see Jalen

2131
01:38:57,160 --> 01:38:59,840
Speaker 2: Brunson kind of be a little iffy bo bench in

2132
01:38:59,880 --> 01:39:01,320
Speaker 2: our executive He.

2133
01:39:01,439 --> 01:39:03,840
Speaker 12: Did kind of look. I don't know what happened. I

2134
01:39:03,880 --> 01:39:07,439
Speaker 12: watched the play. He just went to shoot and landed

2135
01:39:07,479 --> 01:39:09,080
Speaker 12: awkwardly and got helped off the course.

2136
01:39:09,320 --> 01:39:13,080
Speaker 2: Okay, so yeah, maybe me speculating an ankle injury. But

2137
01:39:13,160 --> 01:39:14,960
Speaker 2: we will keep you up to date of what is happening.

2138
01:39:15,400 --> 01:39:18,640
Speaker 2: Big problems for one professional sports league. You have no

2139
01:39:18,800 --> 01:39:21,320
Speaker 2: idea the problems that they have incurred. He's Brian now,

2140
01:39:21,400 --> 01:39:23,400
Speaker 2: I'm Dan Byer. That's next to your life forth the

2141
01:39:23,400 --> 01:39:26,799
Speaker 2: Tyrek dot Com Studios on Fox Sports Sunday, Fox Sports Sunday.

2142
01:39:26,840 --> 01:39:27,599
Speaker 3: I'm Dan Byer.

2143
01:39:27,720 --> 01:39:32,559
Speaker 2: He's Brian know, hanging out life forth, Tirek dot com Studios.

2144
01:39:32,560 --> 01:39:34,400
Speaker 2: It's a big weekend for us here at Fox Sports

2145
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Speaker 2: Radio as we welcome our new affiliate, the new what

2146
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Speaker 2: O six point won the ticket in New Orleans, so

2147
01:39:40,680 --> 01:39:42,599
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2148
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Speaker 2: Radio family. Big thank you to market manager Pat Galloway

2149
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Speaker 2: and program director Jason Kinty.

2150
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Speaker 3: Love being on in New Orleans.

2151
01:39:51,560 --> 01:39:54,479
Speaker 2: The fan base that you know as as you do

2152
01:39:54,640 --> 01:39:57,519
Speaker 2: this job, Brian know and you travel around and you

2153
01:39:57,640 --> 01:40:03,280
Speaker 2: see certain fan bases that you know, will we'll travel Steelers, right, Packers,

2154
01:40:03,600 --> 01:40:06,639
Speaker 2: you know. If we're talking the National Football League Super

2155
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Speaker 2: Bowl forty four in Miami. I'd been to New Orleans,

2156
01:40:09,680 --> 01:40:12,960
Speaker 2: you know, prior, but to be somewhere else and to

2157
01:40:13,080 --> 01:40:15,840
Speaker 2: be whether Saints were playing the biggest game in franchise history.

2158
01:40:16,200 --> 01:40:18,000
Speaker 2: I thought there would be a lot of Colts fans

2159
01:40:18,680 --> 01:40:24,160
Speaker 2: there in in Miami, dominated by Saints fans in my

2160
01:40:24,320 --> 01:40:28,240
Speaker 2: experience there, and just a new found appreciation. We had

2161
01:40:28,320 --> 01:40:31,639
Speaker 2: known everything that you know, they had gone to, gone

2162
01:40:31,760 --> 01:40:34,280
Speaker 2: through with Katrina and then then the Saints coming back.

2163
01:40:34,680 --> 01:40:37,439
Speaker 2: But to see how passionate they were about that football

2164
01:40:37,479 --> 01:40:40,759
Speaker 2: team something that I didn't realize until I saw it firsthand.

2165
01:40:40,840 --> 01:40:44,439
Speaker 2: So awesome New Orleans totally. And I made it there

2166
01:40:44,439 --> 01:40:46,920
Speaker 2: a couple of times. I was there in nine and

2167
01:40:47,040 --> 01:40:49,880
Speaker 2: it just happened to be their Super Bowl season. But

2168
01:40:50,000 --> 01:40:52,240
Speaker 2: I made it there and we went to a regular

2169
01:40:52,320 --> 01:40:53,680
Speaker 2: season game. We're just hanging out.

2170
01:40:53,680 --> 01:40:56,519
Speaker 4: There's actually a bachelor party that weekend, and it's an

2171
01:40:56,560 --> 01:40:57,439
Speaker 4: awesome place to.

2172
01:40:57,479 --> 01:40:57,880
Speaker 3: Go for that.

2173
01:40:58,800 --> 01:41:01,840
Speaker 4: But yeah, we And as soon as I got there,

2174
01:41:01,880 --> 01:41:05,719
Speaker 4: I took the bus and everybody, the bus drivers talking

2175
01:41:05,800 --> 01:41:08,439
Speaker 4: to the people on the bus about the Saints. And

2176
01:41:08,560 --> 01:41:11,439
Speaker 4: I'm telling you, man, people say that the city cares

2177
01:41:11,800 --> 01:41:16,280
Speaker 4: if you go there. They care on another level. It's

2178
01:41:16,400 --> 01:41:20,920
Speaker 4: like sec college football level care for who that in

2179
01:41:21,040 --> 01:41:21,639
Speaker 4: New Orleans?

2180
01:41:21,760 --> 01:41:22,519
Speaker 5: Man, So no doubt.

2181
01:41:22,640 --> 01:41:25,320
Speaker 4: By the way, trivia question here with the bump back music,

2182
01:41:25,520 --> 01:41:27,000
Speaker 4: I know you're a big jaw Rule fan.

2183
01:41:27,120 --> 01:41:30,240
Speaker 3: Sure right there with him as well, right, yep.

2184
01:41:30,240 --> 01:41:33,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, so he turned he had a birthday last Friday.

2185
01:41:33,600 --> 01:41:35,160
Speaker 4: How old do you think jaw.

2186
01:41:35,120 --> 01:41:35,880
Speaker 5: Rule is now?

2187
01:41:37,880 --> 01:41:39,200
Speaker 3: I'm going to say forty nine.

2188
01:41:39,800 --> 01:41:42,559
Speaker 5: That's a great guess. Guy's forty eight years old.

2189
01:41:42,560 --> 01:41:43,519
Speaker 8: Wow, all right.

2190
01:41:44,360 --> 01:41:46,799
Speaker 3: I was like on my neighborhood. That's why I fired.

2191
01:41:47,160 --> 01:41:48,120
Speaker 5: I was blown away.

2192
01:41:48,200 --> 01:41:50,280
Speaker 4: I don't know why I thought Joe Rule was I

2193
01:41:50,320 --> 01:41:52,479
Speaker 4: don't know, like in his early forties or something.

2194
01:41:52,479 --> 01:41:53,479
Speaker 5: I was like, holy cow.

2195
01:41:53,600 --> 01:41:55,360
Speaker 4: And then I did the math and I'm like, no,

2196
01:41:55,479 --> 01:41:58,920
Speaker 4: it actually does make sense that it's a little while ago.

2197
01:41:59,360 --> 01:42:01,040
Speaker 3: Well, aren't they two one?

2198
01:42:01,479 --> 01:42:02,120
Speaker 2: Jah Rule?

2199
01:42:02,560 --> 01:42:03,360
Speaker 3: Who's you know?

2200
01:42:03,439 --> 01:42:06,479
Speaker 2: He went through the whole firefest, you know, crap. Then

2201
01:42:06,520 --> 01:42:08,840
Speaker 2: there was the Bucks halftime, a lot of a lot

2202
01:42:08,880 --> 01:42:12,519
Speaker 2: of great extra with Jah Rule. Speaking of extra, we're

2203
01:42:12,520 --> 01:42:14,240
Speaker 2: gonna get the Manci Belanios here in a second.

2204
01:42:14,439 --> 01:42:14,560
Speaker 7: You know.

2205
01:42:14,640 --> 01:42:17,559
Speaker 2: I mentioned earlier how I felt like celebrating Lebron's forty

2206
01:42:17,560 --> 01:42:20,599
Speaker 2: one thousand point last night was kind of like hanging

2207
01:42:20,600 --> 01:42:22,720
Speaker 2: around that person that just loves to throw parties, so

2208
01:42:22,800 --> 01:42:23,880
Speaker 2: they'll celebrate anything.

2209
01:42:24,320 --> 01:42:24,639
Speaker 5: Uh huh.

2210
01:42:25,760 --> 01:42:29,439
Speaker 3: I kind of got that sense with Kitlyn Clark today. Really,

2211
01:42:29,520 --> 01:42:30,120
Speaker 3: the Pete.

2212
01:42:29,920 --> 01:42:34,400
Speaker 2: Maravitch record, I never yeah, like I just I felt

2213
01:42:34,439 --> 01:42:36,840
Speaker 2: it was very manufactured. And one of the things that

2214
01:42:36,920 --> 01:42:40,200
Speaker 2: I loved about the Caitlyn Clark story was how organic

2215
01:42:40,320 --> 01:42:44,479
Speaker 2: it was, was of just you know, this, this transcendent player.

2216
01:42:45,200 --> 01:42:49,599
Speaker 2: I couldn't have told you at the start of the year, Brian,

2217
01:42:50,120 --> 01:42:52,800
Speaker 2: if the if the men's player or the women's player

2218
01:42:53,240 --> 01:42:56,080
Speaker 2: was the all time leading scorer in college basketball. I

2219
01:42:56,120 --> 01:42:58,920
Speaker 2: didn't know if it was Kelsey Plum, I didn't know

2220
01:42:58,960 --> 01:43:01,920
Speaker 2: if it was Pete Mayrav I wouldn't have known who

2221
01:43:02,040 --> 01:43:05,040
Speaker 2: had more points. So I know it was a mark

2222
01:43:05,080 --> 01:43:08,560
Speaker 2: today but I just I just I felt like, you know,

2223
01:43:08,720 --> 01:43:11,600
Speaker 2: Manti used the squeezing of the orange. I felt like

2224
01:43:11,680 --> 01:43:14,360
Speaker 2: we squeezed a little bit too much out of this.

2225
01:43:14,520 --> 01:43:17,880
Speaker 2: It just didn't it didn't feel organic like the the

2226
01:43:18,040 --> 01:43:21,560
Speaker 2: all time record very organic for women's basketball. But I

2227
01:43:21,640 --> 01:43:24,400
Speaker 2: had never once compared what Pete Maravich did or what

2228
01:43:24,520 --> 01:43:26,320
Speaker 2: Kelsey Plum did, or what the men's game did to

2229
01:43:26,360 --> 01:43:28,880
Speaker 2: the women's game of who had the most of anything,

2230
01:43:28,960 --> 01:43:31,280
Speaker 2: And I just I felt that it was just it

2231
01:43:31,400 --> 01:43:32,120
Speaker 2: was a little extra.

2232
01:43:32,600 --> 01:43:34,640
Speaker 3: I didn't, I didn't, I wasn't. I watched it.

2233
01:43:34,720 --> 01:43:37,519
Speaker 2: I wanted to see she broke the record on technical

2234
01:43:37,560 --> 01:43:39,479
Speaker 2: free throws at the end of the first half. But yeah,

2235
01:43:39,720 --> 01:43:42,600
Speaker 2: it just to me was what's so great about it

2236
01:43:42,760 --> 01:43:45,120
Speaker 2: is how organic it was. And I thought that today

2237
01:43:45,280 --> 01:43:48,479
Speaker 2: was just a little manufactured. She broke the mark, yes,

2238
01:43:48,560 --> 01:43:50,360
Speaker 2: but it wasn't one that I thought. And by the way,

2239
01:43:50,479 --> 01:43:52,840
Speaker 2: none of that's her fault. It's everything that goes around.

2240
01:43:52,880 --> 01:43:54,480
Speaker 2: And just felt that it was a little manufactured.

2241
01:43:54,880 --> 01:43:59,559
Speaker 5: Interesting. No, I look, man, I think it's an amazing accomplishment. Obviously.

2242
01:43:59,640 --> 01:44:02,439
Speaker 5: I know you not saying it isn't. That's not your point.

2243
01:44:02,479 --> 01:44:04,439
Speaker 5: I get your point. I don't know.

2244
01:44:04,680 --> 01:44:07,960
Speaker 4: I don't know if what can make it feel organic,

2245
01:44:08,240 --> 01:44:10,680
Speaker 4: you know, I guess would be the the question I

2246
01:44:10,720 --> 01:44:15,240
Speaker 4: would have is what could have helped that? You know, like,

2247
01:44:15,479 --> 01:44:18,160
Speaker 4: what did they do that made it feel so manufactured

2248
01:44:18,240 --> 01:44:18,400
Speaker 4: to you?

2249
01:44:18,600 --> 01:44:18,800
Speaker 3: Yeah?

2250
01:44:18,880 --> 01:44:21,639
Speaker 2: That you know, and it's our network here, But Fox

2251
01:44:21,720 --> 01:44:24,599
Speaker 2: had the thing up in the bug, Travis Scott was there,

2252
01:44:24,720 --> 01:44:26,360
Speaker 2: they had the bug up and you know, the countdown

2253
01:44:26,439 --> 01:44:28,640
Speaker 2: of it. But it just felt like another reason to

2254
01:44:29,320 --> 01:44:32,000
Speaker 2: celebrate or to tune us in, and if you're a network,

2255
01:44:32,000 --> 01:44:34,519
Speaker 2: you're doing that obviously, but it just we knew that

2256
01:44:34,600 --> 01:44:37,280
Speaker 2: she was on the cusp of breaking Kelsey Plump's record

2257
01:44:37,320 --> 01:44:38,960
Speaker 2: at the start of the year, just like we knew

2258
01:44:39,040 --> 01:44:42,240
Speaker 2: Lebron when he broke Kareem's record, you know, was on

2259
01:44:42,439 --> 01:44:44,800
Speaker 2: the verge of doing that, and so you're waiting for

2260
01:44:44,880 --> 01:44:47,800
Speaker 2: that that mark, and then this forty comes along, it's like, well,

2261
01:44:47,920 --> 01:44:49,960
Speaker 2: why not just celebrate that? And I felt like that

2262
01:44:50,160 --> 01:44:53,040
Speaker 2: was like, well, then let's just celebrate this, you know,

2263
01:44:53,120 --> 01:44:54,640
Speaker 2: and then you know, it was I guess it was

2264
01:44:54,680 --> 01:44:56,840
Speaker 2: good to look back at Pete Marovitch's time as well.

2265
01:44:56,920 --> 01:44:59,640
Speaker 2: Maybe that was you know a good reminder of it

2266
01:44:59,720 --> 01:45:01,600
Speaker 2: for what he did, but I think he had a

2267
01:45:01,640 --> 01:45:04,040
Speaker 2: lot of stupid conversations that end up coming from it

2268
01:45:04,479 --> 01:45:06,479
Speaker 2: as well. But it just seemed like it was the

2269
01:45:06,640 --> 01:45:11,280
Speaker 2: Kelsey Plumb stuff was more organic for the women's game

2270
01:45:11,360 --> 01:45:13,920
Speaker 2: than just saying like now it's men's and women's because

2271
01:45:13,960 --> 01:45:16,479
Speaker 2: I never never compared the two. I wouldn't have known

2272
01:45:16,600 --> 01:45:18,679
Speaker 2: who had more at the start of the season.

2273
01:45:18,720 --> 01:45:22,320
Speaker 4: Anyway, I wonder if it's a here's my birthday cake theory?

2274
01:45:22,800 --> 01:45:25,640
Speaker 4: Try this out, dan Is, Do you think it has

2275
01:45:25,720 --> 01:45:30,360
Speaker 4: anything to do with Lebron getting to forty thousand points

2276
01:45:30,400 --> 01:45:31,240
Speaker 4: the night before?

2277
01:45:31,840 --> 01:45:32,439
Speaker 5: You know what I mean?

2278
01:45:32,600 --> 01:45:35,760
Speaker 4: Like maybe you had some birthday cake and then the

2279
01:45:35,880 --> 01:45:38,040
Speaker 4: next day, Hey, you want some more birthday cake, and.

2280
01:45:38,080 --> 01:45:40,720
Speaker 5: It's like I just had something. Is there anything like

2281
01:45:40,800 --> 01:45:41,519
Speaker 5: that going on here?

2282
01:45:41,640 --> 01:45:43,400
Speaker 3: And I didn't want birthday cake the night before?

2283
01:45:43,520 --> 01:45:46,280
Speaker 2: Like I didn't care about Lebron's forty you know, thousand

2284
01:45:46,400 --> 01:45:47,240
Speaker 2: point threshold.

2285
01:45:47,479 --> 01:45:48,120
Speaker 3: I don't know.

2286
01:45:48,240 --> 01:45:50,840
Speaker 2: I just Manchi Blanios is here to give us an update,

2287
01:45:50,880 --> 01:45:53,280
Speaker 2: to give us the latest. Did you feel it was

2288
01:45:53,320 --> 01:45:55,360
Speaker 2: all manufactured? Did you feel like there was like this

2289
01:45:55,600 --> 01:45:57,120
Speaker 2: threshold that was crossed today?

2290
01:45:57,320 --> 01:45:58,880
Speaker 10: I mean, I just hated that it was done on

2291
01:45:58,960 --> 01:46:02,000
Speaker 10: a freight throw, and I agree with you. I feel

2292
01:46:02,040 --> 01:46:03,839
Speaker 10: like it it didn't need to have that much attention,

2293
01:46:03,960 --> 01:46:05,720
Speaker 10: and once it happened to it could have just been said, oh,

2294
01:46:05,800 --> 01:46:07,600
Speaker 10: now she has the most out of anybody. Yeah, you

2295
01:46:07,640 --> 01:46:09,639
Speaker 10: know what, I get what you're saying in that aspect

2296
01:46:10,320 --> 01:46:12,479
Speaker 10: that it just so much attention was drawn to it,

2297
01:46:12,760 --> 01:46:14,880
Speaker 10: and I don't disagree with that, but I also don't

2298
01:46:14,880 --> 01:46:17,679
Speaker 10: think it's like necessarily a bad thing. We've never compared

2299
01:46:18,000 --> 01:46:20,040
Speaker 10: men and women, and I get that. But now she's

2300
01:46:20,280 --> 01:46:21,960
Speaker 10: the leading scorer in all of ms Cuba.

2301
01:46:22,200 --> 01:46:23,720
Speaker 2: And that's why I say it's the person who just

2302
01:46:23,800 --> 01:46:26,280
Speaker 2: wants to throw parties. Oh it's flag day, Yeah, let's

2303
01:46:26,280 --> 01:46:28,880
Speaker 2: have a party. Why it's flag day. It's an excuse

2304
01:46:28,920 --> 01:46:31,360
Speaker 2: to have a party. All right, go ahead, you know what,

2305
01:46:31,560 --> 01:46:34,120
Speaker 2: on a game, I'll come over all some doogs. Yeah

2306
01:46:34,200 --> 01:46:36,600
Speaker 2: that's yeah, Like that's that's kind of like what I

2307
01:46:36,680 --> 01:46:39,240
Speaker 2: felt like. It was just like, well, let's just celebrate

2308
01:46:39,320 --> 01:46:42,560
Speaker 2: this or why well, why not, good point, let's do it.

2309
01:46:42,720 --> 01:46:45,439
Speaker 11: Let's yeah, I mean, you're not totally wrong in that.

2310
01:46:45,840 --> 01:46:48,640
Speaker 10: Since we started with college sports, we'll continue on in

2311
01:46:48,920 --> 01:46:52,160
Speaker 10: the men's side. Number three Yukon cruise pass Seaton Hall

2312
01:46:52,479 --> 01:46:55,760
Speaker 10: ninety one sixty one, clinching its first outright Big East

2313
01:46:55,840 --> 01:46:59,920
Speaker 10: championship in twenty five years. Now, softball, we all have

2314
01:47:00,000 --> 01:47:03,400
Speaker 10: I've heard of Oklahoma's NCAA Division One record seventy one

2315
01:47:03,560 --> 01:47:04,559
Speaker 10: game winning streak.

2316
01:47:04,840 --> 01:47:05,559
Speaker 11: It ended today.

2317
01:47:05,680 --> 01:47:11,920
Speaker 10: What, yeah, I know, So I think so Louisiana visiting

2318
01:47:12,000 --> 01:47:15,960
Speaker 10: Louisiana pulled off the seven to five upset. So oklahoma

2319
01:47:16,080 --> 01:47:19,479
Speaker 10: seventy one game winning streak came to an end today.

2320
01:47:19,960 --> 01:47:22,479
Speaker 10: But you know, South Carolina back to the Ladies hoops.

2321
01:47:22,520 --> 01:47:25,360
Speaker 10: They completed their second straight perfect regular season with the

2322
01:47:25,439 --> 01:47:28,439
Speaker 10: victory today over Tennessee seventy six to sixty eight. Now

2323
01:47:28,520 --> 01:47:31,599
Speaker 10: onto the NBA. I don't like that what I'm about

2324
01:47:31,640 --> 01:47:35,519
Speaker 10: to tell you. Jalen Brunson seemed to have injured himself

2325
01:47:36,400 --> 01:47:40,120
Speaker 10: in a weird jump shot play. He needed help getting

2326
01:47:40,200 --> 01:47:42,720
Speaker 10: off the court and going to the locker room. It

2327
01:47:42,840 --> 01:47:45,160
Speaker 10: was one of those bizarre situations. It didn't look like

2328
01:47:45,240 --> 01:47:46,760
Speaker 10: anyone made contact with him.

2329
01:47:47,080 --> 01:47:50,640
Speaker 3: Oh boy, yeah, speculation, I'm not speculating.

2330
01:47:50,720 --> 01:47:54,280
Speaker 11: Oh the Internet is speculating. Lots of them are speculating.

2331
01:47:54,360 --> 01:47:58,920
Speaker 10: And yeah, Arney Spaniard is already like, oh my god,

2332
01:47:59,000 --> 01:48:02,439
Speaker 10: things can't get worse, Nicks like, he's already thinking it's bad.

2333
01:48:02,800 --> 01:48:04,800
Speaker 10: But the Knicks are beating the Cavs right now, twenty

2334
01:48:04,880 --> 01:48:07,479
Speaker 10: two to seventeen late in the first quarter. The Spurs

2335
01:48:07,560 --> 01:48:09,439
Speaker 10: up on the Pacers late in the first quarter as well,

2336
01:48:09,560 --> 01:48:12,240
Speaker 10: twenty five fifteen. It's a tie game between the Hornets

2337
01:48:12,240 --> 01:48:15,120
Speaker 10: and the Raptors. They're tied at sixty halfway through the

2338
01:48:15,160 --> 01:48:17,960
Speaker 10: third quarter. The Magic extending their lead over the Pistons

2339
01:48:18,000 --> 01:48:20,880
Speaker 10: seventy eight to fifty three halfway through the third as well.

2340
01:48:21,080 --> 01:48:23,439
Speaker 10: The games that I've already finished in the NBA, Celtics

2341
01:48:23,520 --> 01:48:26,320
Speaker 10: crushing the Warriors one forty to eighty eight, first team

2342
01:48:26,360 --> 01:48:30,880
Speaker 10: in NBA history to have three fifty plus point victories

2343
01:48:31,400 --> 01:48:33,479
Speaker 10: in a one regular season so this is their third

2344
01:48:33,520 --> 01:48:36,599
Speaker 10: game this year that they have won by fifty or more. Clippers,

2345
01:48:36,680 --> 01:48:39,120
Speaker 10: as the Timberwolves eighty nine eighty eight seventy six ers

2346
01:48:39,160 --> 01:48:40,960
Speaker 10: held on to beat the MAVs in Dallas one twenty

2347
01:48:41,080 --> 01:48:44,000
Speaker 10: to one sixteen. Kyle Larson is your winner at the

2348
01:48:44,080 --> 01:48:45,840
Speaker 10: NASCAR Cup Series in Las Vegas, his.

2349
01:48:45,920 --> 01:48:47,400
Speaker 11: Third career win there.

2350
01:48:47,880 --> 01:48:51,120
Speaker 10: In the NFL, Joe Burrows spoke to ESPN and he's

2351
01:48:51,200 --> 01:48:54,120
Speaker 10: telling them that he thinks middle of May is when

2352
01:48:54,160 --> 01:48:57,080
Speaker 10: he's going to be completely cleared from that torn ligament

2353
01:48:57,120 --> 01:48:59,559
Speaker 10: that he had surgery, and it was a season ending

2354
01:48:59,640 --> 01:49:00,799
Speaker 10: injury for him during.

2355
01:49:00,640 --> 01:49:03,800
Speaker 11: Week eleven, So almost there. And I just saw that

2356
01:49:03,880 --> 01:49:06,760
Speaker 11: Pro Football Talk is reporting.

2357
01:49:06,520 --> 01:49:10,240
Speaker 10: The NFL's plan for an eighteen game regular season is coming.

2358
01:49:10,720 --> 01:49:13,240
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, Oh it's been brewing a little bit.

2359
01:49:13,240 --> 01:49:15,519
Speaker 11: Been brewing, so we're hearing more about it.

2360
01:49:15,880 --> 01:49:18,719
Speaker 10: And the new kickoff rule, apparently crafted by NFL special

2361
01:49:18,760 --> 01:49:21,200
Speaker 10: teams coordinators, would allow teams to attempt an on site

2362
01:49:21,280 --> 01:49:24,800
Speaker 10: kick only when trailing in the fourth quarter and require

2363
01:49:24,920 --> 01:49:27,280
Speaker 10: them to declare it in advance.

2364
01:49:27,439 --> 01:49:30,240
Speaker 2: That eighteen game schedule wouldn't come until the new CBA,

2365
01:49:30,400 --> 01:49:33,560
Speaker 2: which is still six years away. Twenty thirty would be

2366
01:49:33,640 --> 01:49:36,200
Speaker 2: the season. But even Andrew Berry of the Browns alluding

2367
01:49:36,240 --> 01:49:38,240
Speaker 2: to the trade deadline was I think a point that

2368
01:49:38,280 --> 01:49:41,559
Speaker 2: Pro Football Talk made as well of people feel that, yes,

2369
01:49:41,600 --> 01:49:44,439
Speaker 2: the eighteen game schedule is coming, and then everybody can

2370
01:49:44,520 --> 01:49:46,160
Speaker 2: get their wish of having a day off after the

2371
01:49:46,200 --> 01:49:48,800
Speaker 2: Super Bowl because you'd have the President's Day holiday right

2372
01:49:49,160 --> 01:49:49,560
Speaker 2: after that.

2373
01:49:49,840 --> 01:49:51,639
Speaker 11: Yeah, maybe the All Star Game in the NBA will

2374
01:49:51,680 --> 01:49:52,320
Speaker 11: just be done.

2375
01:49:53,680 --> 01:49:55,960
Speaker 2: And then yeah, or that could be the halftime show

2376
01:49:56,040 --> 01:50:00,040
Speaker 2: from the to the Super Bowl. Then you go, I

2377
01:50:00,040 --> 01:50:04,280
Speaker 2: appreciate it, Monci. It is a Fox Sports Sunday hit.

2378
01:50:04,400 --> 01:50:06,200
Speaker 2: Brian up at the No Show. You can find me

2379
01:50:06,400 --> 01:50:09,599
Speaker 2: at Dan Byer on Fox Am. I last storning into

2380
01:50:09,640 --> 01:50:11,840
Speaker 2: a bit of a problem, Brian, know that, you know

2381
01:50:13,640 --> 01:50:16,920
Speaker 2: listen as a Seahawks fan, I am all for replacement refs.

2382
01:50:17,120 --> 01:50:19,760
Speaker 2: But the MLS has a whole different animal on their plate.

2383
01:50:20,120 --> 01:50:21,599
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a weird story here.

2384
01:50:21,680 --> 01:50:24,200
Speaker 4: We're not going to break down you know MLS games

2385
01:50:24,240 --> 01:50:27,680
Speaker 4: left and right here, but they've got replacement officials right now.

2386
01:50:27,840 --> 01:50:30,839
Speaker 4: Remember the old fail Mary, Oh yeah, when you're Seahawks

2387
01:50:30,920 --> 01:50:34,800
Speaker 4: and the Packers there. Well, we've got replacement refs in

2388
01:50:35,040 --> 01:50:39,400
Speaker 4: MLS right now. And a story that got some traction

2389
01:50:39,600 --> 01:50:43,799
Speaker 4: here is one of the replacement refs was replaced because

2390
01:50:44,640 --> 01:50:48,240
Speaker 4: photos started showing up on social media of the guy

2391
01:50:48,439 --> 01:50:52,720
Speaker 4: wearing an Inner Miami jersey. So they're like, no, you

2392
01:50:52,880 --> 01:50:58,920
Speaker 4: can't ref the Inner Miami game yesterday against Orlando City

2393
01:50:59,040 --> 01:51:02,679
Speaker 4: because these pictures are floating around of you actually wearing

2394
01:51:02,840 --> 01:51:05,800
Speaker 4: Inner Miami gear. Is how it works, and I get that,

2395
01:51:06,080 --> 01:51:08,599
Speaker 4: I understand that, but if you think about it, Dan,

2396
01:51:09,400 --> 01:51:13,040
Speaker 4: you could still be a fan and be unbiased as

2397
01:51:13,160 --> 01:51:17,760
Speaker 4: a ref. It'd be like a sports radio talk show host,

2398
01:51:17,880 --> 01:51:20,000
Speaker 4: like we have our favorite teams, right, do you think

2399
01:51:20,080 --> 01:51:23,080
Speaker 4: that we can't be so biased talking about teams?

2400
01:51:23,120 --> 01:51:25,280
Speaker 2: Ever, I sometimes think that if you're a fan of

2401
01:51:25,360 --> 01:51:28,960
Speaker 2: a team, you're more critical of that team, then maybe

2402
01:51:29,000 --> 01:51:31,160
Speaker 2: you would be because you know them. If you're a

2403
01:51:31,600 --> 01:51:34,200
Speaker 2: half glass empty guy like I am, I sometimes feel

2404
01:51:34,240 --> 01:51:36,120
Speaker 2: like I'm more critical of my team than maybe I

2405
01:51:36,200 --> 01:51:38,240
Speaker 2: should be, or I always look at the things that

2406
01:51:38,360 --> 01:51:42,599
Speaker 2: could go wrong with them. However, in this instance, if

2407
01:51:42,640 --> 01:51:44,559
Speaker 2: you can directly help them, and by the way, they

2408
01:51:44,560 --> 01:51:46,439
Speaker 2: didn't need it. They won five to zerl, so they

2409
01:51:46,680 --> 01:51:48,680
Speaker 2: they maybe that was part of the plan. Maybe the

2410
01:51:48,720 --> 01:51:51,880
Speaker 2: other guy was also a fan, and this is part

2411
01:51:51,920 --> 01:51:55,360
Speaker 2: of their you know, they're their misdirection. But I don't

2412
01:51:55,400 --> 01:51:59,479
Speaker 2: know anyway, And listen, it's not like they're a new

2413
01:52:00,040 --> 01:52:02,639
Speaker 2: an old team right like where it was like, hey,

2414
01:52:02,680 --> 01:52:05,320
Speaker 2: ten years ago, I had a you know, I had

2415
01:52:05,360 --> 01:52:07,800
Speaker 2: a Steelers jersey when I was in college. Now I'm

2416
01:52:07,800 --> 01:52:11,160
Speaker 2: an NFL ref. You know, like still those optics would

2417
01:52:11,160 --> 01:52:15,280
Speaker 2: would not be good. But this is a newer team. Obviously,

2418
01:52:15,479 --> 01:52:18,559
Speaker 2: the flavor of more than the flavor of the month,

2419
01:52:18,880 --> 01:52:23,560
Speaker 2: are inner Miami. Yeah, you just you would like to

2420
01:52:23,600 --> 01:52:25,320
Speaker 2: believe the guy, but there's no way that you could

2421
01:52:25,320 --> 01:52:27,080
Speaker 2: do it. Heck, we look, we look out where refs

2422
01:52:27,080 --> 01:52:30,519
Speaker 2: are born in the NFL, like or in college football back,

2423
01:52:30,760 --> 01:52:31,200
Speaker 2: oh the guy.

2424
01:52:31,240 --> 01:52:31,519
Speaker 5: Guess what?

2425
01:52:31,640 --> 01:52:34,160
Speaker 3: The guy was born in Upper Michigan. No wonder why

2426
01:52:34,240 --> 01:52:37,479
Speaker 3: the wolver calls. You know we do that.

2427
01:52:38,040 --> 01:52:42,759
Speaker 4: Remember the the no call in that Rams Saints NFC

2428
01:52:42,960 --> 01:52:46,400
Speaker 4: title game. I'll never forget. Heading into that game, Bill

2429
01:52:46,520 --> 01:52:50,120
Speaker 4: Vinovich was the lead ref and the Rams were zero

2430
01:52:50,120 --> 01:52:53,879
Speaker 4: to eight in his games, and there was a petition

2431
01:52:54,080 --> 01:52:56,479
Speaker 4: floating around. All these people are signing it for Bill

2432
01:52:56,600 --> 01:53:01,479
Speaker 4: Vinovic not to ref that game because the Rams were winless.

2433
01:53:01,560 --> 01:53:01,800
Speaker 16: Wow.

2434
01:53:02,320 --> 01:53:06,080
Speaker 4: And then there's the no call that benefits the Rams

2435
01:53:06,200 --> 01:53:08,439
Speaker 4: when all these people are like, get them out of there,

2436
01:53:08,479 --> 01:53:10,719
Speaker 4: we don't want the guy. So yeah, you can imagine

2437
01:53:10,760 --> 01:53:13,519
Speaker 4: how it would go if Bill Vinovich was like wearing

2438
01:53:13,680 --> 01:53:15,320
Speaker 4: a hood At shirt or something like.

2439
01:53:15,680 --> 01:53:16,719
Speaker 5: People would be going crazy.

2440
01:53:16,800 --> 01:53:19,679
Speaker 2: Oh that's I did not realize that set because usually

2441
01:53:19,680 --> 01:53:21,240
Speaker 2: like you would have that like we know that was

2442
01:53:21,320 --> 01:53:24,160
Speaker 2: Scott Foster, you know, like with the NBA and Chris

2443
01:53:24,240 --> 01:53:27,839
Speaker 2: Paul like, but those things like aren't easily researched. Sometimes

2444
01:53:27,920 --> 01:53:29,639
Speaker 2: it's like, you know, a guy like Jerome Boger would

2445
01:53:29,640 --> 01:53:32,240
Speaker 2: throw so many penalties, and if your team penalizes a lot,

2446
01:53:32,280 --> 01:53:33,360
Speaker 2: you're like, all right, I don't know, we're in for

2447
01:53:33,360 --> 01:53:36,400
Speaker 2: a long game. But to have the Bill Vinovich rams stat,

2448
01:53:36,560 --> 01:53:39,679
Speaker 2: I had no idea. That's news to me. That's pretty amazing.

2449
01:53:39,760 --> 01:53:42,320
Speaker 2: Well hey there, look see it didn't matter. But those

2450
01:53:42,360 --> 01:53:45,480
Speaker 2: are all star crews as well. So even the best misscalls,

2451
01:53:45,479 --> 01:53:47,479
Speaker 2: whether you're a fan or not, I will say this,

2452
01:53:48,080 --> 01:53:50,599
Speaker 2: the ref that made the call and the fail mary

2453
01:53:51,000 --> 01:53:51,320
Speaker 2: uh huh.

2454
01:53:52,000 --> 01:53:54,800
Speaker 3: True story. He became a.

2455
01:53:55,479 --> 01:53:58,640
Speaker 2: Insider of officiating for us at Fox Sports Radio, and

2456
01:53:58,760 --> 01:54:01,960
Speaker 2: no kidding, our producers no longer here off the bigger

2457
01:54:02,000 --> 01:54:04,880
Speaker 2: and better things, had this guy's number and would call

2458
01:54:04,960 --> 01:54:06,960
Speaker 2: him up and would be a guest on our shelves.

2459
01:54:07,320 --> 01:54:09,840
Speaker 3: Yes, the guy too. And as the Seahawks fan.

2460
01:54:09,960 --> 01:54:12,240
Speaker 2: By the way, I knew it was an interception, but

2461
01:54:12,320 --> 01:54:14,719
Speaker 2: I also knew, I go, these guys don't know the rules.

2462
01:54:15,000 --> 01:54:16,719
Speaker 2: There's no way that they're gonna call it. They're gonna

2463
01:54:16,760 --> 01:54:19,800
Speaker 2: say ty goes to the runner. Offense gets it. So

2464
01:54:19,960 --> 01:54:21,519
Speaker 2: like I felt like I knew right away that they

2465
01:54:21,560 --> 01:54:23,200
Speaker 2: were gonna win the game, and sure enough when they

2466
01:54:23,240 --> 01:54:26,599
Speaker 2: looked at each other like touchdown, Yeah, it was a touchdown.

2467
01:54:27,080 --> 01:54:29,880
Speaker 4: It was crazy because you had the two officials and

2468
01:54:30,000 --> 01:54:34,160
Speaker 4: they were each signaling different things. So I'm curious the

2469
01:54:34,240 --> 01:54:37,280
Speaker 4: guy that you had on the air, which signal was

2470
01:54:37,360 --> 01:54:37,840
Speaker 4: he going?

2471
01:54:38,000 --> 01:54:40,440
Speaker 3: He was the one that did that, that gave the touchdown.

2472
01:54:40,680 --> 01:54:41,320
Speaker 3: That was the one.

2473
01:54:41,360 --> 01:54:43,200
Speaker 2: Because then he made a career out of it, like you,

2474
01:54:43,480 --> 01:54:47,400
Speaker 2: he profited off, which, by the way, he should have

2475
01:54:47,560 --> 01:54:49,640
Speaker 2: because he wasn't gonna ref another game like this is

2476
01:54:49,720 --> 01:54:50,640
Speaker 2: your moment in the sun.

2477
01:54:50,840 --> 01:54:53,320
Speaker 3: Make you know, make what you can of it.

2478
01:54:53,520 --> 01:54:56,360
Speaker 2: But yeah, to have him come out as an expert

2479
01:54:56,480 --> 01:54:59,000
Speaker 2: of knowing the rules probably wasn't our best judgment.

2480
01:54:59,480 --> 01:55:01,880
Speaker 5: But hey, man, props to him. He parlaid that into

2481
01:55:01,960 --> 01:55:02,640
Speaker 5: something bigger.

2482
01:55:02,680 --> 01:55:04,040
Speaker 3: That's great. Oh he's probably no.

2483
01:55:04,120 --> 01:55:07,120
Speaker 2: I'm Dan Baierrier Alive from the TIREC dot Com Studios,

2484
01:55:07,200 --> 01:55:11,440
Speaker 2: wrapping up this edition of Fox Sports Sunday. Coming up next,

2485
01:55:11,720 --> 01:55:16,400
Speaker 2: one prominent name in sports has taken a stand and

2486
01:55:16,480 --> 01:55:18,360
Speaker 2: he's not gonna take it anymore. I'll tell you what

2487
01:55:18,440 --> 01:55:20,960
Speaker 2: that is next on Fox Sports Radio. Fox Sports Sunday.

2488
01:55:21,000 --> 01:55:24,480
Speaker 2: I'm Dan Byer. He's Brian no wrapping things up. Hit

2489
01:55:24,560 --> 01:55:25,880
Speaker 2: him up at the No Show. You can find me

2490
01:55:26,000 --> 01:55:30,600
Speaker 2: at dan Byer on Fox. Speaking of X formerly known

2491
01:55:30,640 --> 01:55:33,600
Speaker 2: as Twitter, Johnny Manzel took to Twitter yesterday.

2492
01:55:34,120 --> 01:55:36,240
Speaker 3: Did you see He's got Reggie Bush's back? Brian?

2493
01:55:36,880 --> 01:55:39,920
Speaker 2: I did see this, Yeah, he tweeted quote, So this

2494
01:55:40,000 --> 01:55:42,560
Speaker 2: is Johnny Manziel. You can back a Brinks truck up

2495
01:55:42,600 --> 01:55:44,280
Speaker 2: to my house and I still will not attend the

2496
01:55:44,400 --> 01:55:48,800
Speaker 2: ceremony or do anything involved until Reggie's Heisman trophy is

2497
01:55:48,960 --> 01:55:52,080
Speaker 2: back where it rightfully belongs. This is about doing what's

2498
01:55:52,160 --> 01:55:55,760
Speaker 2: right for everyone involved. Reggie's play on the field inspired

2499
01:55:55,800 --> 01:55:58,200
Speaker 2: me to be the football player that I am. To

2500
01:55:58,360 --> 01:56:01,800
Speaker 2: the Heisman. Trust, I hope you understand my positioning. You

2501
01:56:01,880 --> 01:56:03,720
Speaker 2: know that I have nothing but love and respect for

2502
01:56:03,800 --> 01:56:07,160
Speaker 2: that trophy and the people associated with it. It changed

2503
01:56:07,200 --> 01:56:09,040
Speaker 2: my life for the better forever, and I will be

2504
01:56:09,120 --> 01:56:12,480
Speaker 2: eternally grateful for that until my last day on this earth.

2505
01:56:12,840 --> 01:56:15,120
Speaker 2: The bond of the brotherhood means more than anything else.

2506
01:56:15,520 --> 01:56:19,920
Speaker 2: That's truly what makes the fraternity so special. Peace and

2507
01:56:19,960 --> 01:56:21,280
Speaker 2: then he tagged Reggie Bush in it.

2508
01:56:21,520 --> 01:56:22,840
Speaker 5: A little piece at the end there.

2509
01:56:22,960 --> 01:56:27,120
Speaker 2: I just there a couple of things with this. For

2510
01:56:27,240 --> 01:56:31,160
Speaker 2: as great as I think that Johnny Manziel was as

2511
01:56:31,240 --> 01:56:34,960
Speaker 2: a college football player and the year that he won

2512
01:56:35,040 --> 01:56:39,320
Speaker 2: the Heisman Trophy, let's also be real the Heisman Trophy

2513
01:56:39,520 --> 01:56:43,400
Speaker 2: in reality does not need Johnny Manziel. It does not,

2514
01:56:43,920 --> 01:56:47,840
Speaker 2: and in fact, the Heisman Trophy probably didn't love it

2515
01:56:47,880 --> 01:56:50,800
Speaker 2: when Johnny Manziel was doing what he was doing throughout

2516
01:56:50,840 --> 01:56:54,240
Speaker 2: his NFL career or what he explained what he was

2517
01:56:54,280 --> 01:56:56,280
Speaker 2: doing now in his college career, I don't think that's

2518
01:56:56,640 --> 01:56:58,080
Speaker 2: representative of the Heisman.

2519
01:56:58,240 --> 01:56:59,360
Speaker 3: I also think that it.

2520
01:56:59,440 --> 01:57:02,160
Speaker 2: Is Johnny man trying to get out in front of

2521
01:57:02,240 --> 01:57:04,920
Speaker 2: something and it's something he doesn't stand up for Reggie Bush,

2522
01:57:04,920 --> 01:57:07,120
Speaker 2: and not that he doesn't want the Heisman, but they

2523
01:57:07,200 --> 01:57:08,880
Speaker 2: do think that there will be a time where Reggie

2524
01:57:08,880 --> 01:57:11,040
Speaker 2: Bush gets his Heisman back once we get all this

2525
01:57:11,240 --> 01:57:14,080
Speaker 2: nil stuff cleared up. And that's where I think it's

2526
01:57:14,160 --> 01:57:16,680
Speaker 2: also of the of the positioning of being out in

2527
01:57:16,720 --> 01:57:20,000
Speaker 2: front and taking the stand. But in reality, the Heisman

2528
01:57:20,040 --> 01:57:23,360
Speaker 2: Trophy is a great trophy. It doesn't need Johnny Manzel

2529
01:57:23,760 --> 01:57:26,880
Speaker 2: and I just find it's an interesting stand to take

2530
01:57:27,360 --> 01:57:29,480
Speaker 2: for something that likely will come back to Reggie Bush

2531
01:57:29,480 --> 01:57:29,960
Speaker 2: at least.

2532
01:57:29,840 --> 01:57:30,360
Speaker 3: At some point.

2533
01:57:30,760 --> 01:57:34,080
Speaker 4: It's gonna take a lot more than Johnny Manziel for

2534
01:57:34,280 --> 01:57:37,360
Speaker 4: Reggie to get his heisman back, you know, and explained

2535
01:57:37,440 --> 01:57:40,600
Speaker 4: some of the history there. When when Johnny Manziel has

2536
01:57:41,200 --> 01:57:44,280
Speaker 4: documented being on the take when he was at Texas

2537
01:57:44,360 --> 01:57:46,800
Speaker 4: A and M. You know, I don't know if that's

2538
01:57:46,880 --> 01:57:49,760
Speaker 4: the guy that you want taking a stand for it.

2539
01:57:50,880 --> 01:57:54,360
Speaker 4: Like listen, I think Reggie should have his heisman. He

2540
01:57:54,720 --> 01:57:57,360
Speaker 4: accepted improper benefits when he was at USC and in

2541
01:57:57,480 --> 01:57:59,000
Speaker 4: that day and age, it was a no no.

2542
01:57:59,480 --> 01:58:00,520
Speaker 5: So I think he should.

2543
01:58:00,680 --> 01:58:04,360
Speaker 4: But it's an interesting conversation, Dan, where some of it

2544
01:58:04,560 --> 01:58:08,680
Speaker 4: I think is Reggie Bush was speeding when the speed

2545
01:58:08,760 --> 01:58:12,680
Speaker 4: limit was at a different speed that time, You know

2546
01:58:12,720 --> 01:58:13,080
Speaker 4: what I mean.

2547
01:58:13,160 --> 01:58:14,600
Speaker 5: So let's say you're speeding.

2548
01:58:14,680 --> 01:58:17,960
Speaker 4: Let's say you're going eighty in a sixty mile per

2549
01:58:18,040 --> 01:58:21,520
Speaker 4: hour zone and you get a ticket. Well, like years later,

2550
01:58:21,880 --> 01:58:24,360
Speaker 4: they raise the speed limit, Are they gonna mail you

2551
01:58:24,600 --> 01:58:26,960
Speaker 4: back the money you were fined?

2552
01:58:27,160 --> 01:58:28,720
Speaker 3: Probably not, No, they're not.

2553
01:58:29,120 --> 01:58:32,600
Speaker 4: So even though nil has changed and things are different now,

2554
01:58:32,800 --> 01:58:34,400
Speaker 4: it wasn't different back then.

2555
01:58:35,000 --> 01:58:37,400
Speaker 5: So I could see them sticking to their gun.

2556
01:58:37,520 --> 01:58:39,840
Speaker 2: Johnny tweeted within the past hour on how the last

2557
01:58:39,880 --> 01:58:42,920
Speaker 2: two Heisman winners, Jaden Daniels and Caleb Williams, made twelve

2558
01:58:43,000 --> 01:58:46,240
Speaker 2: million dollars combined last year. And again that's under the

2559
01:58:46,360 --> 01:58:49,240
Speaker 2: new image of the nil But you know who also

2560
01:58:49,520 --> 01:58:52,440
Speaker 2: is not gonna like stand up Like Johnny Man's other

2561
01:58:52,480 --> 01:58:55,920
Speaker 2: thing is okay in terms financially of where he is,

2562
01:58:56,560 --> 01:58:59,600
Speaker 2: but the Heisman is the defining moment of you know,

2563
01:58:59,800 --> 01:59:03,120
Speaker 2: some one like Eric Crouch, right those he think Gino

2564
01:59:03,200 --> 01:59:06,160
Speaker 2: Torretta's not gonna, you know, attend to Heisman stuff or

2565
01:59:06,400 --> 01:59:08,720
Speaker 2: he used to his benefit to stick up for Reggie Bush.

2566
01:59:09,280 --> 01:59:10,840
Speaker 3: No, it's not good. It's not gonna happen.

2567
01:59:10,960 --> 01:59:12,960
Speaker 2: Like you know, Johnny Manziel doesn't need to, and there

2568
01:59:12,960 --> 01:59:14,920
Speaker 2: are other Heisman Trophy winners that probably don't need to.

2569
01:59:15,000 --> 01:59:16,640
Speaker 2: But there are a lot of other guys that are like,

2570
01:59:16,680 --> 01:59:18,960
Speaker 2: all right, I can't take the stand with you because

2571
01:59:19,400 --> 01:59:21,480
Speaker 2: that's how they're known, That's how they're forever gonna be known.

2572
01:59:21,840 --> 01:59:26,600
Speaker 4: Right Yeah, And uh, listen, it's who would have the

2573
01:59:26,760 --> 01:59:30,040
Speaker 4: most cachet, you know what I mean? It's not Johnny,

2574
01:59:30,560 --> 01:59:33,560
Speaker 4: but what former Heisman winner if he were to say,

2575
01:59:34,160 --> 01:59:37,400
Speaker 4: I'm not attending until you do right by Reggie Bush,

2576
01:59:37,640 --> 01:59:39,080
Speaker 4: who would have the most influence.

2577
01:59:39,120 --> 01:59:40,720
Speaker 2: I would I I honestly I would think like it

2578
01:59:40,720 --> 01:59:42,720
Speaker 2: would be a recent one if they weren't playing in

2579
01:59:42,760 --> 01:59:43,920
Speaker 2: the National Football League.

2580
01:59:44,480 --> 01:59:49,800
Speaker 3: But uh, you know, gosh, Bo Jackson, you.

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Speaker 4: Think maybe maybe yeah right, like, uh, wouldn't be Cam

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Speaker 4: after the seven on seven fight.

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Speaker 3: No, they couldn't. Oh that would know.

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Speaker 2: No to Archie Griffin, you take the two timer, you know,

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Speaker 2: you go old school to do it. Yeah, yeah, I

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Speaker 2: think that. I think that was yeah, all right, Brian,

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Speaker 2: this is fun. Let's do it again soon for Brian know,

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Speaker 2: I'm Dan Byer. It's been Fox Sports Sunday at Fox

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